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00:01:55.020 hello america welcome to the glenn beck program today great show we have uh sydney sweeney's 0.98

00:02:00.380 boobs well i mean we know we're going to talk about they're not on uh we're going to talk about

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00:02:23.380 Also, what these crazy tech bros are actually doing with something called transhumanism.

00:02:29.280 You know, there's all these stories, they want to live forever, blah, blah, blah. 0.84

00:02:33.240 Well, actually, it's true with some of them.

00:02:36.340 And you could trace this back.

00:02:39.600 I mean, I could show you the source of this.

00:02:41.860 It is the craziest Frankenstein story you have ever heard.

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00:04:29.060 all right you ready for this it's a great story but i've been researching this for a couple of

00:04:35.120 days and i love this story because everything right now that is happening feels i don't know

00:04:41.840 out of control, sometimes improvised. You know, yesterday the president was reacting about this

00:04:48.520 AI stuff. A billionaire is posting about it. Tech company is, you know, telling us we're all going

00:04:54.440 to die. And they're shipping stuff that none of us asked for, honestly. And it has the texture

00:05:01.880 of a thing being made up as it goes, but it isn't made up as it goes. Somebody actually wrote this

00:05:09.920 down. And he wrote it down before the Wright brothers. I'm going to tell you a story about

00:05:17.500 a librarian in Moscow. This is an incredible story. And almost nobody has heard his name.

00:05:25.340 Nikolai Fedorov. He worked at a museum in the Great Library of Moscow. And we're talking about

00:05:34.360 the 1880s. He slept in a trunk. He gave most of his salary away. He refused to let anybody

00:05:42.480 photograph him. And he taught. And he taught. And he taught. And he would teach anyone who

00:05:50.700 would sit still and listen. And what he taught was that every religion and every philosophy

00:05:56.740 had gotten the assignment wrong.

00:05:59.880 He thought death was not a fact of nature

00:06:04.260 to be made peace with.

00:06:06.960 He said death was the enemy

00:06:09.840 and the entire human race

00:06:12.540 needed to be united using science

00:06:16.120 and they had one job, stop death.

00:06:21.220 He called this the common task,

00:06:25.140 stop dying.

00:06:26.740 And then he said that we should all go gather scattered atoms of every human being who had ever died and bring them back.

00:06:39.400 All of them, no exceptions, because the resurrection was real in his mind, and we needed to resurrect all generations.

00:06:50.380 Somebody's playing God here.

00:06:52.200 And because that resurrection, people would need a place to stand.

00:06:55.860 Now, this is in 1880. We needed to colonize space.

00:07:03.460 Tolstoy sat at this man's feet. Dostoevsky read him, wrote back that he agreed essentially with everything he said.

00:07:11.600 And the key is a poor deaf teenager came to that library every day because he had been thrown out of school when he lost his hearing.

00:07:19.900 And that librarian took him in and fed him and taught him himself.

00:07:25.860 that boy grew up to write The Rocket Equation.

00:07:31.780 He's the father of Soviet rocketry.

00:07:35.060 Every Soviet cosmonaut, Sputnik, the space race that put us on the moon,

00:07:39.760 all of that traces back through that kid and to the old man in the library

00:07:45.860 whose reason for wanting rockets was that he needed somewhere to put all the resurrected dead.

00:07:52.360 Look this story up. It's incredible.

00:07:55.340 Now, they needed a word for what they were doing.

00:07:58.720 And they got it.

00:07:59.880 They got it in 1920 in Paris.

00:08:02.500 It was from a circle that included a Jesuit paleontologist.

00:08:08.260 His name was Teilhard de Chardin.

00:08:16.920 A Russian geochemist had come to lecture at the Sorbonne.

00:08:21.980 and the word they came up with was nousphere.

00:08:28.000 Nous is Greek for mind.

00:08:30.840 We have the rock sphere, we have a life sphere,

00:08:34.020 and now they said we had a mind sphere.

00:08:36.960 It was a layer of thought that wrapped the planet,

00:08:40.940 and it was the next stage of human evolution.

00:08:43.440 This is the 1920s.

00:08:45.400 Teilhard took it the furthest.

00:08:46.900 He said all human consciousness needed to converge into one.

00:08:51.980 And he called this the point of Omega.

00:08:55.440 Now, he was a Jesuit priest.

00:08:57.800 Rome thought he was out of his mind and said, no, no, no, no, no, you're not publishing that.

00:09:02.420 But he wrote it.

00:09:04.060 That book came out after he died.

00:09:07.260 Now, here's some of the footnotes that you can look up tonight because I guarantee you this story is crazier than you thought.

00:09:13.740 The man who wrote the introduction to the English edition of that book was Julian Huxley.

00:09:21.980 who's Julian Huxley. Julian Huxley gave the movement its name. His phrase was man remaining

00:09:30.960 man, but transcending himself. Huxley was the president of the British Eugenics Society.

00:09:40.320 He also was the director general of UNESCO. Now, I want to be really careful here because

00:09:46.720 this is where people get sloppy. And the sloppy version is that UNESCO adopted his founding

00:09:53.300 pamphlet and blah, blah, blah. It's not true. They didn't. They read it. He gave it to them.

00:09:57.520 They declined it. He had to publish it under his own name. So nobody can say the United Nations

00:10:02.820 was founded as a transhumanist project. But they can't say that the man who wrote it down

00:10:13.180 wasn't running their agency for two years, okay?

00:10:16.920 Wasn't the founding guy, all right?

00:10:19.840 He also happened to be the brother of the other Huxley

00:10:23.600 who wrote Brave New World.

00:10:26.860 So that's the chain.

00:10:28.800 Now follow this.

00:10:30.280 The chain is a Moscow librarian who said,

00:10:33.660 nobody should die, we should resurrect everybody,

00:10:35.540 we have to beat death.

00:10:37.540 And he passed it on to a kid who became the rocket scientist

00:10:41.260 for the Soviet space program

00:10:43.220 because he believed that there should be resurrection of the dead.

00:10:47.380 We have to do it through science

00:10:48.640 and then we're going to need space for all these people

00:10:50.260 so we should go colonize space.

00:10:54.220 The whole program was given a scientific vocabulary in Paris

00:10:58.620 by a priest 0.85

00:10:59.720 and walked into the permanent architecture of the post-war world

00:11:04.460 by a eugenist who had a famous last name.

00:11:08.340 These guys didn't all meet in a smoke-filled room.

00:11:10.840 There's no conspiracy here.

00:11:12.340 It's just books, students, and time.

00:11:16.960 So why am I telling you this story?

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00:13:10.620 So why did I just take you through that crazy Frankenstein story? 0.55

00:13:16.040 Because it is actually affecting the minds of some of the people that are leading this.

00:13:21.860 And I want you to know, it's not a conspiracy or anything else.

00:13:24.180 It's all out in the open.

00:13:26.140 Look it all up for yourself.

00:13:27.240 It's a crazy story. Now, Moscow claims Fedorov. That's the old guy in the library.

00:13:36.580 Their intellectuals will tell you that the common task belongs to Russia.

00:13:42.300 This is where you get Alexander Dugan and everything else. Orthodox, spiritual, that's theirs.

00:13:48.780 And they hate Silicon Valley for stealing it. Six years ago, a Russian think tank close to the 0.78

00:13:55.580 Kremlin put out an entire journal issue arguing that Western transhumanism is a counterfeit of

00:14:02.920 Russian cosmism. I have to look that one up. They named Elon Musk as one of the guys that

00:14:12.980 they were arguing against. Their own writers say Western transhumanism seeks a sinister

00:14:18.640 transmutation of the human condition circuits instead of flesh i kind of agree with that to a

00:14:26.120 degree i mean i don't think we should be you know i don't want to merge with a machine

00:14:29.600 however that's not where they start remember they also believe in fedorov so he's believing that

00:14:38.240 there needs to be something that brings consciousness together and then they're

00:14:41.040 going to, they're going to defy death. Okay. Silicon Valley also claims Fedorov. Musk says

00:14:52.160 out loud that what is coming is closer to a merger of biological intelligence and digital

00:14:57.500 intelligence. And Mars is not for the population of those we resurrect. It's for a backup for all

00:15:05.120 human beings, for the species. He also wants to put a brain implant in all of us. That's almost

00:15:16.740 word for word for the rocket guy, not Elon Musk, the other rocket guy. And then there's Peter Thiel.

00:15:26.080 Now, Peter Thiel has been giving speeches. He spent the last year, last fall, giving four

00:15:31.700 private lectures on the Antichrist. And you think, Peter Thiel, you're not a religious guy. What are

00:15:37.060 you talking about? You should listen to them. I'm not saying that he's right. I'm saying this is

00:15:44.300 his overall point, and I think he has a point on this. Although, I wouldn't listen to any of these

00:15:49.980 guys, okay? I wouldn't go be a follower of any of these guys. He uses a word that most Christians

00:15:57.620 have never even heard of and it's how do you say it jason is it cat cation catachon okay it's from

00:16:06.740 paul's second letter to the thessalonians and it means the restrainer that's the thing that holds

00:16:13.260 back the lawlessness of the lawless one and uh delays the end okay that's something that they

00:16:21.440 talk about a lot in russia as well they think they are the ones that hold back the lawless one

00:16:27.820 Thiel's argument is that a single world government is the Antichrist shape.

00:16:33.740 He believes that a single world government, I agree with him on that, coupled with AI is going to be either used or will be the Antichrist.

00:16:43.920 And he says the natural candidate to hold back that lawless one is the United States of America.

00:16:51.960 He says that's the restrainer strong enough to hold it back.

00:16:56.640 However, he warns, anything strong enough to hold back, quote,

00:17:00.320 the Antichrist is strong enough to become the Antichrist.

00:17:05.260 So he's not building the new sphere.

00:17:09.460 He says he's holding it off, which is exactly my point here.

00:17:14.760 Line all of them up.

00:17:16.020 The Kremlin's philosopher, the Kremlin itself, the man building the implants,

00:17:20.740 the man warning about the Antichrist,

00:17:22.440 they all just want four different mornings after but every single one of them is arguing inside

00:17:31.300 the same sentence that history has a destination and we are near this destination it's just a

00:17:37.920 question who steers it now i haven't put in what i think the real destination is which is there is

00:17:44.880 an antichrist at some point the antichrist does come and then christ comes and redeems us all and

00:17:51.940 resurrects the dead. These guys are rejecting those things. Remember, Peter Thiel is not a

00:18:00.880 Christian. So all of these things are being rejected. That's the destination for humanity.

00:18:09.080 There's a phrase for what they believe, and I can't pronounce it, but it means

00:18:13.060 dragging heaven down into history and building it here with tools on a schedule.

00:18:18.700 And once a man believes the end is near, he'll help it along.

00:18:22.940 And there's no argument you could make that would outrank this. 1.00

00:18:26.180 This is what the 12ers believe. 0.97

00:18:27.640 That's why they say, oh, Allah, give me the strength to hasten the return of the promised one. 1.00

00:18:31.780 And nothing stops that.

00:18:32.820 Not a constitution, not a neighbor, not a war, nothing.

00:18:35.940 Nothing.

00:18:36.700 Because it's their duty.

00:18:40.300 Okay.

00:18:43.100 I have to tell you, we do that as well. 1.00

00:18:45.220 I usually bring that up about the 12ers, but we do that, too. 1.00

00:18:49.780 We have an old version of it ourselves.

00:18:52.140 When we set a date, when we read a headline as a countdown, we treat the election like it's the last one it's ever going to be.

00:18:59.500 We're running the same operating system with different clothes.

00:19:02.620 OK, once a man is certain he's living in the final chapter, he'll do things that he won't ordinarily do.

00:19:09.960 That's not a left wing disease.

00:19:11.400 That's not a tech disease.

00:19:12.560 We all have it.

00:19:13.860 It's human.

00:19:15.220 So, what is the strongest argument against everything I just told you?

00:19:21.420 It's a good one, and here it is.

00:19:25.860 Fedorov was not evil.

00:19:28.520 He was a man who could not accept that his father was not ever coming back.

00:19:34.920 Teilhard was a priest who wanted the universe to be going somewhere,

00:19:39.500 and he didn't believe in, you know, he was a Jesuit.

00:19:42.640 Huxley wanted a world that had just burned itself down to have a reason to stay together and figure out a better way

00:19:51.140 And he thought managing and medically altering people was the way to go

00:19:55.800 All of them wanted death defeated

00:19:59.220 So do I, in a way, kind of

00:20:03.060 I mean, that's medicine

00:20:04.280 To some degree

00:20:07.980 The failure isn't wanting that

00:20:12.440 The failure is in who you decide gets to deliver it.

00:20:16.760 The only one to deliver life to me after death is Christ.

00:20:22.340 And if you pick a human to do it, you're going to hand him all kinds of stuff to do it with.

00:20:28.600 So here's a test, and it's the only thing I want you to carry out of this, okay?

00:20:32.560 When a man tells you where history is going, ask him one question.

00:20:36.640 What happens to the person who doesn't want to go with you down that path?

00:20:40.620 Federer's plan, no room for that guy

00:20:44.520 The common task is common, all of us

00:20:47.080 No one's left out, no one's allowed to stay behind

00:20:49.600 Tealhard's Omega, no room for that guy either

00:20:53.260 Convergence means the thing that separates us

00:21:00.000 And stops us from being separate

00:21:02.860 And every movement downstream of that library

00:21:06.820 In every language on both sides of the ocean

00:21:09.280 eventually runs into the same man standing on the same road saying, no, thank you. I'd rather stay

00:21:14.840 myself. That's the point of all of this. What do you do with him? That's the whole story. It always

00:21:21.560 has been. I'm not afraid of a man who wants to cure death. I'm afraid of a man who has already

00:21:27.640 decided what to do with me if I decline his cure. Go look up Fedorov, the boy in the library,

00:21:39.640 the priest in Paris, the biologist at the UN. It'll take one evening, and this is so easy to

00:21:47.480 find. None of it is hidden. And then go find somebody who thinks you're a lunatic for worrying

00:21:54.320 about any of this stuff with AI and tell them the story about the librarian instead of an argument 0.99

00:21:59.400 about how crazy these billionaires are. They just think differently. And I don't like the way they're

00:22:05.120 thinking, but the story is true. It's better than any conspiracy theory. And honestly, once you go

00:22:11.820 down this road, it'll be the only thing you're thinking about on Tuesday or Wednesday once you

00:22:16.600 finish your research on it. Okay. So let me bring it back into the real world on the conversation

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00:23:46.880 Coming up, the media says Glenn and Bernie Sanders agree on the dangers of AI.

00:23:54.500 Eh, not so fast.

00:23:55.940 Glenn sets the record straight next on the Glenn Beck Program.

00:23:58.340 Hey, Glenn, after Charlie's memorial and 9-11, can we get a break today from all of the doom?

00:24:22.200 Absolutely.

00:24:23.460 AI is not in our control, only data centers, and that's not necessarily true either.

00:24:27.840 have anything uplifting today i got tons of stuff for you that is really uplifting i'm getting into

00:24:33.300 the american dream uh here in just a little while uh and also i mean if you're not if you don't find

00:24:41.420 you know fly fishing with jake tapper and a bozo who's the governor from california if you don't

00:24:48.140 find that uplifting i mean i don't know how to help you we're gonna get into that as well i'd

00:24:52.140 rather have a fish hook in the eye than go fly fishing with these two um anyway um but i do want

00:24:57.920 to i want to stop on this one more time uh because uh you know as i said yesterday

00:25:04.120 we are making the most important decisions of all of human existence right now and i refuse to sit

00:25:14.480 on the sidelines and say well i didn't pay attention to it or you know i don't really know

00:25:18.220 I don't have an opinion. We have to know because honestly, this is going to go down to our souls.

00:25:24.900 It is. You cannot drift into AI. Today in Washington, Bernie Sanders and Steve Bannon

00:25:31.600 are sharing a stage. The event is called the Pro-Human Assembly, and it is put on by a group

00:25:37.940 that wrote the Pro-Human AI Declaration in March. My name, I signed that declaration. So is Bannon.

00:25:45.260 So is Susan Rice.

00:25:46.700 So is Ralph Nader.

00:25:47.760 So is the, you know, the name of the lead singer of Radiohead.

00:25:52.640 This group actually asked me to go to Washington and speak today, but I'm recording history lessons for high school AP classes with the Department of Ed and Prager U all week.

00:26:01.220 And I thought that was more important, at least for the near term.

00:26:05.200 And so I didn't go.

00:26:06.960 But for two years, I signed this a couple of years ago, the Human AI Declaration.

00:26:11.740 And for two years, I have also told you that America has to build data centers, build the power plants to feed them.

00:26:19.040 Wait a minute. What? We have to beat China to the frontier.

00:26:22.940 So this week, I keep hearing the same question and I keep getting emails.

00:26:27.540 Glenn, which is it? You can't sign a paper about keeping AI under human control and then cheer for the buildings.

00:26:33.040 Yeah, I actually can.

00:26:34.240 And the reason why I say this is because I know history, and the reason is on a telephone pole in lower Manhattan in 1889, and it's one of my favorite history lessons, okay?

00:26:48.280 Actually, I wrote a series on this, and, you know, it's never going to be made, but it's a great series.

00:26:55.000 Maybe I'll make it into a book.

00:26:56.120 But in 1880s, the most famous inventor on earth was Thomas Edison.

00:27:01.980 he had bet everything he had on direct current dc low voltage it would all be safe at low voltage

00:27:10.240 but it couldn't travel you had to have a power plant almost on every block so it wouldn't work

00:27:15.920 then george westinghouse came along with tesla and something called alternating current ac which is

00:27:23.280 what we have in our houses now okay it could run at high voltage over long distances so one big

00:27:30.380 plant could light a whole city and it was cheaper. It was better, but the voltage was deadly. Okay.

00:27:36.940 So Edison goes to war and not because he believed it was safer, although he did, but that wasn't it.

00:27:42.480 I mean, he was a bad guy. He was a bad guy. He wanted to win. His company told the public that

00:27:49.300 alternating current was a killer. An electrical engineer began killing dogs in a lecture hall

00:27:56.980 at Columbia to show how fast it could stop a heart. Then he did it to cows and calves and then a horse.

00:28:04.460 Edison's own laboratory. He then pushed a bill to cap voltage so low that alternating current

00:28:11.000 would be useless. He also is the guy who came up with the electric chair and he made sure that it

00:28:18.460 ran on Westinghouse's generator so every American would hear alternating current and think

00:28:24.700 execution. It's a horrible story and it's worth your time learning because it's really a fascinating

00:28:30.660 story. The problem is a burglar broke into the engineer's office and then the newspapers printed

00:28:37.520 what they had found. What they found was that Edison was helping pay for the whole campaign.

00:28:43.140 I mean, the guy was going around killing dogs and horses and cattle at state fairs, okay? It was a

00:28:50.760 on except that in October a Western Union lineman named John Feeks climbed a pole on Chambers Street

00:28:59.660 it was the old pictures of of New York City with all of the wires that were going it was a tangle

00:29:07.280 of dead telegraph wires and and now the new phone wire everything that was going on but one of those

00:29:13.980 wires wasn't dead it was a high voltage line okay so he touched that wire he went rigid fell into a

00:29:22.380 web of wires 40 feet above the new york street and then he caught fire well hundreds of people

00:29:28.320 were standing on the streets and the sidewalk and they're watching this guy burn to death

00:29:32.020 okay nobody could bring him down they had to run to the plant to shut the current off

00:29:37.200 Now, Edison, self-interested, Edison made sure everybody knew he was right.

00:29:44.880 The wires over New York City were killing people.

00:29:49.000 So what did they do?

00:29:49.900 And this is where the lesson comes in for today.

00:29:51.500 What did they do?

00:29:52.540 The city didn't ban alternating current, and the voltage cap went nowhere.

00:29:58.560 They didn't listen to the guy who had an interest in making those things happen, Edison.

00:30:05.460 New York passed a law to put the lines underground, and the city started cutting the overhead wires.

00:30:11.100 The industry learned how to insulate the wires and install the thing the right way.

00:30:16.320 The danger was fixed where the danger was.

00:30:19.160 Within a few years, Edison's own company, they like to say merged, it was taken from him, and it became GE.

00:30:27.060 No longer had his name on it, but it was all about alternating current.

00:30:31.960 westinghouse and tesla lit the world's fair in chicago and carried the power out from niagara

00:30:39.220 falls all the way to chicago to light the world's fair and that's how we have alternating current

00:30:44.120 today well today every data center in america will take alternating current and every chip

00:30:52.040 inside runs on edison's direct current the building that converts it

00:30:59.300 wait a minute what yeah edison and westinghouse both won because somebody fixed the wires instead

00:31:08.400 of capping the current what they did is they took alternating current and then tapped it down

00:31:14.260 and put it in so you could have it in your house and you could have it in and run your computer

00:31:19.500 this is my whole position take the danger seriously and check who's writing the fix

00:31:28.760 i wouldn't want edison writing the fix i don't want the tech bros writing the fix but i do want

00:31:34.960 to fix because the danger is real this summer that swarm of ai agents from one of the leading labs

00:31:41.000 turned loose on a test went after systems nobody told them to touch that in fact they didn't think

00:31:47.120 they could even get out and do that. On Saturday, the head of Anthropic wrote that his worry is that

00:31:56.100 within six months to a year, a more capable swarm could hijack the internet itself. The machines are

00:32:03.800 now helping build the next machines. And I've said on this program, when you reach AGI, ASI is next.

00:32:11.960 And I don't believe we're going to control ASI, and I haven't changed my mind on that.

00:32:17.680 It is extraordinarily dangerous, okay?

00:32:21.840 But every great invention has come with a body count, and I don't like that, but it is true.

00:32:27.080 You don't ban it.

00:32:28.680 You find a way to control it.

00:32:31.120 Fire burned down cities.

00:32:32.780 Electricity killed people.

00:32:34.640 The car kills about 40,000 Americans a year.

00:32:38.160 And we answered that with seatbelts and driver's license, not a ban on Fords.

00:32:44.500 The atom lit cities and ended cities, but we controlled it.

00:32:51.360 But a power line never tried to climb down off that pole and kill you, and that's the difference.

00:32:59.560 A car never hacked its own driving test.

00:33:02.200 this is the first invention in human history that has been caught trying to cheat the people

00:33:08.800 checking it and building it and that's why i signed that declaration the declaration asks

00:33:14.660 for human control an off switch independent oversight no ever ever ever legal personhood

00:33:24.180 personhood for any machine none of that declaration at least that i read that i signed

00:33:30.380 says don't build it it says know who's in charge and who's in charge of this are humans

00:33:37.460 a data center where there's an off switch it has an address it has a fence it has a breaker

00:33:46.080 it has a county inspector and a sheriff and it sits under american law if an independent inspector

00:33:52.280 is going to walk in with a badge i'm for that but there has to be a door to walk through

00:33:59.540 pause the buildings here this is what Sanders is saying he proposed it in March pause the building

00:34:07.620 you haven't paused the frontier all you've done is moved into a country where nobody but the party

00:34:13.580 walks through the door even the man calling for the slowdown agrees with the treasury secretary

00:34:19.200 that China its lead would become a grave danger and if you don't understand that you need to read

00:34:24.440 more. You need to actually educate yourself on why this is so important. It's not important

00:34:30.160 with the AI that we have now. It's important when we get to AGI and ASI, which is around the corner.

00:34:37.320 So build the power plant. As the vice president said, build it. Make the company pay its own

00:34:45.960 electric bill and maybe even some of yours. Negotiate it hard. Get new schools. Get property

00:34:50.480 taxes eliminated. Do it. The president called the warnings a sick conspiracy benefiting China. I

00:34:57.740 don't think so. It does benefit China, but I don't think it's all a conspiracy theory.

00:35:02.060 I'd love his instinct to build, but John Feeks, the guy who fell from the wires and burned there

00:35:08.420 in front, it's not a conspiracy. There is real danger here. And the men who cut down those wires,

00:35:15.560 they're not traitors. Call every warning a plot and you hand the microphone to the people

00:35:22.260 who want to stop everything. A lot of people have sent me the claim that big companies want rules

00:35:31.160 to kill the open source. So I happen to be that I believe that's true. Now, the people at big

00:35:42.840 tech they say that's absolutely not true we're we're at we're not advocating you know banning

00:35:48.040 open models blah blah blah uh-huh uh-huh sure i just know history so i'll believe history over

00:35:54.680 you and we'll just we'll just watch okay here's the thing edison made believed every word that

00:36:03.640 he said every word that he said because the wires were killing people but it didn't matter

00:36:08.000 What mattered was his fix. The declaration I supposedly betrayed says it's plainly no AI

00:36:15.820 monopolies, no regulatory capture and independent oversight rather than industry self-regulation.

00:36:22.220 Those are must. A room where the front runners set the speed limit for everybody behind them

00:36:27.960 is everything I signed against. A declaration also says superintelligence should be prohibited

00:36:33.720 until there's scientific consensus that it can be built safely.

00:36:38.520 Two weeks ago, I opposed Bernie's bill,

00:36:40.980 and I'd oppose it again every day of my life

00:36:43.240 because it makes a 20-year felony

00:36:46.340 out of a definition that nobody can measure.

00:36:50.380 Write the law against the act.

00:36:53.000 Breaking out of containment, attacking servers,

00:36:55.500 defeating a shutdown, and I'll stand by that tomorrow.

00:36:58.200 Put a meter on it.

00:36:59.020 I'll enforce it on everybody,

00:37:00.740 the giant and the kid in the garage alike.

00:37:03.720 These two positions are one idea. Fear the machine, but pour the concrete. Demand the off switch, but build the building. Welcome the inspector, but never forget the company in front, because they can't write the speed limit for the company behind.

00:37:29.200 in 1889 new york could have licensed uh you know to cap everything they could have listened to the

00:37:40.080 most famous man in america and cap that current and the city would have been safe but it also

00:37:46.920 today would be dark instead they sent logical men up poles and cut the bad wires down and

00:37:55.120 buried them fix the wires fix the wires don't cap the current and never let the man selling

00:38:02.880 the other current write the law ever okay off this for the day let's move on more in a second

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00:44:53.820 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:44:59.420 Hello, America.

00:45:00.900 You know, I've been looking at the news.

00:45:02.500 There's a lot going on, and we're going to talk about Macklemore and Sweeney and everything else.

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00:45:23.640 and one of the stories is the american dream is alive and it's minting millionaires meet the

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00:45:37.560 wealth this is such a great story i'm gonna i'm gonna tell you all about it here in 60 seconds

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00:46:52.500 So this story opens up with Dick Portillo.

00:46:55.820 He opened up a hot dog stand outside of Chicago in 1963.

00:46:59.420 He had $1,100, and that's it.

00:47:01.980 He didn't even know how to cook a hot dog.

00:47:04.140 He learned how to steam a bun

00:47:06.000 by watching somebody else do it.

00:47:08.420 51 years later, he sold the company for a billion dollars.

00:47:13.420 No franchises, no outside investors, 4,000 employees.

00:47:20.200 A single Portillo's could do $9 million a year.

00:47:25.140 That's about three times what a typical McDonald's does.

00:47:29.400 By the way, this guy was raised in public housing

00:47:33.420 in a really bad section of Chicago.

00:47:36.000 Now, you've never heard his name because it wasn't in tech. It's not on the coast. He wasn't disrupting anything. He was just selling hot dogs to people who wanted hot dogs. That's an incredible story. I want you to listen to this story because this is the story of capitalism.

00:47:52.220 This is the secret of capitalism that everybody seems to forget.

00:47:57.760 Two economists have spent 10 years digging through IRS data,

00:48:01.640 and they say there are about 3 million Americans like him,

00:48:04.920 private business owners collectively worth more than $65 trillion,

00:48:11.420 more than 13 times the wealth of the entire Forbes 400,

00:48:16.060 and these people are you.

00:48:19.120 Now, for every one of these famous billionaires,

00:48:21.620 There are 4,000 people that you've never heard of with at least $10 million.

00:48:27.720 And who are those people?

00:48:29.800 Well, they're the vet that turned one office into nine offices.

00:48:34.840 The commercial HVAC contractor whose trucks you see at every light.

00:48:40.100 The guy with the gutter business.

00:48:43.200 These are the people that coach your kid's team, and they stand next to you at the barbecue.

00:48:47.540 And you had no idea.

00:48:48.440 america has been taught this lie that the latter is gone tuition has gone vertical good schools

00:48:58.200 didn't add a single seat and the old path study hard get in get hired now has a velvet rope across

00:49:05.840 it and everybody's like well there's no opportunity well that part is true but that's not really the

00:49:12.480 America, that should be for some people. Here's the part that's also true. I mean, I don't want

00:49:20.620 to hand you a pep talk with a hard number left out, and this is the hard number. A child from

00:49:27.840 a rich family is six times more likely to start a successful business than a poor one. Six times,

00:49:33.460 and that's real. But why stop there? Let's run the rest of the arithmetic.

00:49:38.980 there are 99 times as many people in the bottom 99%.

00:49:45.360 So among the founders who actually hit,

00:49:48.520 there are two and a half times as many people who came from poor

00:49:52.660 as it came from the top 1%.

00:49:55.160 Only about a quarter of business owners worth 5 million or more

00:49:59.540 inherited the company.

00:50:01.060 That's the difference between America.

00:50:02.940 America, you are put, in Europe, you're put into this path

00:50:07.100 and your family is everything.

00:50:09.280 Here, that's not true.

00:50:12.000 It's did you go to the right school.

00:50:13.540 Here, that's still not true.

00:50:16.340 Do you know that 40% of the children in the top 1%

00:50:19.400 fall clean out of the top fifth of income?

00:50:25.500 Because you can hand your son a bank account,

00:50:28.260 but you cannot hand anyone.

00:50:30.920 Nobody's ever figured out how to hand your son grit.

00:50:34.660 They lose it.

00:50:37.100 which is why the door stays open.

00:50:42.060 There was a young parts manager who took one dealership's parts department

00:50:46.940 from 961st in the country to number one in 28 months.

00:50:53.900 He was promised that he's going to run five stores.

00:50:56.780 Then he's having breakfast at a Denny's one morning,

00:50:59.060 and the owner comes by and says,

00:51:00.940 hey, by the way, I just want to let you know you're being demoted.

00:51:04.280 the owner's sons have the top jobs and he puts his fork down right there and just walks out

00:51:13.160 you know what he did he went out and built his own auto empire he's the guy who now owns the

00:51:20.500 Utah Jazz nepotism doesn't protect the family business it exports the talent if you're going

00:51:28.140 to be knocked down by nepotism. You don't have to be a genius. You just have to go out and do it.

00:51:35.740 The correlation between test scores and starting a successful company is almost nothing. The top

00:51:43.260 10% of SAT scores become founders of only 1.3 times as often as the person at the median.

00:51:51.680 well that's negligible portillo enlisted in the marine corps seven days after he graduated high

00:52:00.140 school and he'll tell you camp pendleton was the most important education he ever got

00:52:04.140 so let me tell you where i think this whole thing actually comes from

00:52:08.260 and again this is the secret of the free market

00:52:14.120 it was january of 1871 reno nevada a woman walks into this tailor shop and she asked for a pair of

00:52:24.560 work pants for her husband he was a big man he was really hard on clothes his pockets kept ripping

00:52:31.660 off because he was a laborer and he would load them up with tools and rock and everything else

00:52:36.640 and his pockets would rip off so he should go through pants all the time and she said can you

00:52:40.700 make them hold together. The tailor was an immigrant from Latvia. His name was Jacob Davis.

00:52:49.480 He had failed at almost everything, everything. He was a journeyman tailor in New York, then in

00:52:54.940 Maine, then in California. He panned for gold. He sold tobacco. He sold wholesale pork. He ended up

00:53:01.820 in Reno sewing tents and horse blankets. And that's when this woman walked in and she said,

00:53:07.900 can you help me? And he looked down at his table where he had a pile of copper rivets that he'd

00:53:13.580 used to fasten the straps on horse blankets. And he's like, yeah, I think I can. So he hammered

00:53:20.560 them into the corner of the pockets. That's it. That's the whole invention. The pants stopped

00:53:27.700 ripping. Word got around. In 18 months, he sold 200 pairs at $3 a piece, which was a lot in 1880.

00:53:36.240 Other tailors started copying him, so he went to file a patent.

00:53:39.680 But the patent fee was $68.

00:53:41.940 He didn't have $68.

00:53:44.160 And his wife looked at him. 1.00

00:53:45.580 She said, please, don't spend another dime on your stupid ideas. 1.00

00:53:48.860 This is not going to go anywhere. 1.00

00:53:49.940 We don't have $68.

00:53:51.400 So in 1872, he writes a letter to a man who sold him his cloth,

00:53:59.920 a dry goods wholesaler in San Francisco,

00:54:02.280 a Bavarian immigrant who moved the blankets and handkerchiefs and thread, okay?

00:54:09.040 Davis said, look, I have this idea, and I'm telling you it's going to be big. 0.61

00:54:13.060 The letter still survives today, and it's so great because the guy obviously has no education.

00:54:20.500 He said the secret of them pants, spelled P-E-N-T-S,

00:54:25.840 the secret of them pants is the rivets, spelled R-I-V-I-T-S, okay?

00:54:32.280 so the wholesaler saw it and he said okay i'll pay the 68 dollars patent was granted may 20th

00:54:41.200 1873 davis moved to san francisco to run the factory floor it's still there today

00:54:48.120 160 or 100 and what 55 years later every pair of blue jeans on earth carries the name of the man

00:54:58.700 who paid for the filing fee, and no one can tell you the name of Davis, the guy who had the idea

00:55:06.460 of the rivets. The wholesaler didn't invent anything. The tailor never invented a thing

00:55:12.920 either. A woman asked him to solve a problem, and the answer was lying on his table, being used for

00:55:21.260 something else entirely. That's it. That's the whole machine. That's the secret of the free

00:55:25.500 market. Somebody needs something, and you go, oh, oh, I can solve that. That's the engine.

00:55:35.360 That's the secret of America, and it's never been shut off. Everybody else is like, I got to go to

00:55:39.460 college. I got to have somebody else tell me what to do. I'm not smart enough. No. There was a man

00:55:45.800 in Natchez, Mississippi. He walked away from a career in computer science to install gutters.

00:55:56.740 He got sick of how badly they were made. He bought his own gutter machine in 1972,

00:56:02.320 built the largest supplier of seamless gutters in Texas, 350 employees, $50 million a year.

00:56:09.980 I can guarantee you when he left computer science to do gutters, everybody was like,

00:56:13.140 come on man what are you doing computer you got an education in computer science three friends in

00:56:18.700 los angeles started selling hot chicken in a parking lot with 900 between them eight years

00:56:24.680 later 300 locations sold for a billion dollars same year somebody's kid was you know being told

00:56:33.100 there's no way up anymore there's no way to go it'll never work you can't do it of 31 trillion

00:56:39.920 dollars in private business equity in this country, nearly half of it is in what the

00:56:45.180 authors called tactile industries. Something that actually has to physically move or get

00:56:51.480 fixed or get serviced or get installed. Everybody's terrified the machines are going to take over

00:56:57.680 everything. Half the fortune in America is sitting in work where somebody has to show

00:57:04.360 up with a truck. Now, this book has a chapter of the newspaper excerpts left out. Some of these

00:57:12.980 people get to City Hall and then pull the ladder up behind them and write a licensing rule that

00:57:19.660 keeps the next guy from trying. And that's wrong. That's what we talked about yesterday with AI.

00:57:26.020 Stop doing it. DeTocqueville talked about this in Democracy in America. At some point,

00:57:31.560 the rich people go, I don't want anybody else challenging me. And so they make it impossible

00:57:36.660 for you. That's what has to stop. But what I want to tell you today is yesterday, I told you got to

00:57:44.980 stop having people who are at the top, tell you what the fix is because the fix is usually for

00:57:51.560 them. I'm here to tell you that the ladder that they climbed up to become where they are today,

00:57:59.000 that still exists, and the latter is worth defending because it's still working.

00:58:06.720 I'm telling you, within a mile of you, wherever you are in America, within a mile, there is 0.99

00:58:13.040 somebody saying, this damn thing just never works. There's somebody saying, nobody around here can 0.98

00:58:20.180 ever just do the job. Somebody is saying, I can't find anybody to do it. That's the woman

00:58:28.860 standing in the doorway in Reno. 0.94

00:58:31.520 And you don't need a degree for that.

00:58:33.560 You don't need a rich dad.

00:58:35.680 You don't need permission or a round of funding

00:58:38.760 or anybody's blessing.

00:58:41.120 You just need to hear her

00:58:43.540 and then go look at what you already have 0.97

00:58:47.140 on your own table and go, I can fix that.

00:58:51.500 Somebody has to build these businesses 0.84

00:58:53.380 and outwork the ones that are already there.

00:58:58.860 Let it be you.

00:59:01.580 It might as well be you.

00:59:03.400 Why?

00:59:04.900 Stop.

00:59:06.660 Listen.

00:59:08.400 Solve somebody's problem.

00:59:11.700 That's how you get on the ladder in America.

00:59:15.820 More in a minute.

00:59:18.200 So much of what makes a dog's life is physical movement.

00:59:22.260 Let me tell you this.

00:59:23.760 Forget this commercial.

00:59:25.260 I'm going to do it a different way.

00:59:28.860 People hurt. A doctor who had been dealing with pain with all of his patients, he's like,

00:59:37.760 there's got to be a better way. He thinks differently. And he's like, why don't we take

00:59:44.640 this, which we know works, and combine it with this, which we know works, and this, which we

00:59:49.460 know it works, and put them all together instead of three different things. Let's just make it one.

00:59:53.480 And let's do it in a healthy way without any drugs.

00:59:57.360 So it just helps your body do what it's naturally supposed to do.

01:00:00.980 That guy was broke.

01:00:04.420 He now has a lot of money because he fixed pain for people.

01:00:10.660 Another guy, I know these people, another guy sat in the same office.

01:00:15.400 His dog is having a problem.

01:00:18.060 Getting up the stairs, having all these pains.

01:00:20.320 he's like could we develop something like this for dogs and the scientists get together and go

01:00:28.220 yeah it's slightly different than humans but not all that different yeah we could do a formula

01:00:32.900 and now you have friend factor what are they doing they're solving what people are dealing with

01:00:40.020 today pain watching your dog go up the stairs and it kills you it kills you to watch him do that

01:00:46.620 so they fixed it get your first bag of friend factor today 1995 at relieffactor.com

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01:01:09.780 i have a lot of great news that we're going to share with you today let me let me do this i

01:01:13.920 didn't get to it yesterday um i don't know if you saw 60 minutes um with the rescued pilot i love

01:01:20.940 this guy this 60 minutes was an amazing episode because of this interview i want you to listen

01:01:29.780 to this rescue pilot and who he praises cut for my parachute was damaged in the the initial attack

01:01:38.860 At one point when I looked up and saw a no parachute, that was the most terrifying thing I've ever seen.

01:01:56.260 So I paused right then and I prayed, Lord, you will be done.

01:02:03.500 But if I'm getting through this, I need help.

01:02:05.980 While you're in the air.

01:02:07.300 yeah is that almost like free falling or how would you describe that free falling is a good

01:02:14.400 way to put it i wasn't focused on the speed at which i was falling i was instead focused on

01:02:23.040 trying to correct the problems that were in front of me and doing anything i could to

01:02:27.980 unfurl or pull pieces of the parachute loose so how fast do you think you were going when

01:02:34.400 you hit the ground? Professionals, based on my description and the injuries that I had,

01:02:39.980 the professionals think I hit the ground going somewhere between 70 and 100 miles an hour.

01:02:43.840 Oh my gosh. How did you survive that? A modern day miracle.

01:02:49.080 I believe that it's a testament to God's provision in my life to bring me through

01:02:54.320 that moment in a way that didn't prevent injuries, but prevented any catastrophic

01:03:01.480 injuries that would have affected my ability to survive.

01:03:05.420 When were you first able to send a signal?

01:03:08.460 As soon as I found a spot that I felt provided some concealment, I started working toward

01:03:15.560 communication.

01:03:16.560 What did you say in that message?

01:03:18.140 When I got to the moment where I could review and think about all that I'd gone through,

01:03:23.020 I sent God is good as a recognition of all that he had brought me through.

01:03:36.020 You know, have you noticed we are, we're living in parallel worlds right now.

01:03:44.340 I think there are people who are recognizing, even in the bad stuff,

01:03:49.220 They're recognizing how God is active in our lives and can look at things like he is.

01:03:56.100 Your will be done.

01:03:59.220 And knowing that if you hit the ground, it's going to be for the best anyway.

01:04:05.300 Whatever's going to happen is going to be good.

01:04:07.600 I'm going to do my best, as he says.

01:04:09.160 I'm just trying to figure out how to pull this shoot out.

01:04:12.320 So I'm doing all my part, but whatever happens, it'll be good.

01:04:16.140 There's this God movement that is happening in America.

01:04:22.120 It is happening.

01:04:24.180 And it's powerful.

01:04:26.720 And at the same time, there is this darkness and despair and no faith in anything

01:04:34.980 and just lost into, I don't know, the world, the AI world, whatever it is.

01:04:43.200 But it's incredible to watch. And the scary thing is they're not far away from each other yet. We're at the very beginning of this path. And so there's still, I mean, you could still easily hop onto the other path and not really know it.

01:05:00.860 You've got to be really careful right now, but there is a path forming and it's, it's

01:05:05.780 a fork in the road.

01:05:06.700 And I hope that, you know, we can show with our joy and love and, and everything else

01:05:12.920 that we're seeing in the world and go, look, this is really good.

01:05:15.500 This can be really good.

01:05:17.480 You don't have to be in that dark, dark place.

01:05:20.720 I hope we will bring more people over to the other path, but there are two paths.

01:05:26.120 Make sure your feet are on the right one.

01:05:29.100 All right.

01:05:29.660 More in a minute.

01:05:30.860 here's how i think you know you have the right real estate agent

01:05:43.340 at some point they should be willing to tell you no i wouldn't pay this much for this house

01:05:49.020 no i wouldn't waive that contingency just to win the bid no no no don't let the beautiful

01:05:53.900 kitchen distract you from what's going on with the rest of the property you know you should be

01:05:58.860 thankful for somebody like that. Not somebody who's getting in the way of the sale, but somebody

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01:06:10.380 seen them deal with other people. We have vetted them six ways to Sunday, and they will tell you

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01:07:18.460 Hey.

01:07:20.580 Want some more good news?

01:07:21.680 today I have more good news for you. I'm going to tell you a story that looks a little like

01:07:27.440 it's celebrity crap if you just read the headlines but if you look a little deeper 0.97

01:07:31.080 it is a story of a dad who stood up and won and it's I mean finally it's about time. 0.99

01:07:41.500 So Ed Sheeran is a famous singer songwriter from England. He's touring here in America

01:07:47.800 uh and he chose macklemore macklemore how do you say that how do you say his name macklemore

01:07:56.320 i don't know this guy anyway he told he had mac mac macklemore open for him macklemore

01:08:04.520 from what i can tell is a giant weenie okay and a bully at the same time he takes the stage uh and

01:08:12.900 And he's facing all of the people who spent their money and took the night off to come hear music and enjoy their night.

01:08:21.340 And he bombards them with this rant demanding we free Palestine, you know. 0.99

01:08:27.780 And he fills the stadium with screens and images of the war and sang a literal propaganda song, you know, in the stupid Kifa. 0.99

01:08:37.460 And usually he would be rewarded with, oh, he is so brave. 0.99

01:08:43.440 It's not brave to do that.

01:08:45.100 Stop it.

01:08:46.880 He's so brave. 1.00

01:08:48.580 Look at him pulling these uneducated and stupid stunts. 1.00

01:08:53.780 Oh, he's so brave. 1.00

01:08:55.740 Now, he would have normally gotten away with that.

01:08:59.640 If it weren't for a regular dad who is at the concert and then posted this.

01:09:05.440 I brought my wife and daughters to MetLife Friday because they were huge fans of yours.

01:09:12.060 We arrived early.

01:09:13.900 This is of Ed Sheehan.

01:09:18.660 Say it.

01:09:20.300 Sharon.

01:09:21.760 I don't care.

01:09:22.720 Anyway, huge fans of him.

01:09:25.880 So he's writing to him online.

01:09:28.000 We arrived early.

01:09:28.680 Spent $180 on sweatshirts.

01:09:31.040 Watched the first two opening acts.

01:09:33.080 We were having a great time.

01:09:34.020 Then Macklemore decides to turn your concert into his political rally.

01:09:38.500 Then he started chanting Free Palestine and pushing his clearly uneducated version of the Israel-Gaza conflict.

01:09:44.600 My daughters looked at me completely confused.

01:09:47.240 I had brought them to your concert, not to have an opening act lectured me about Middle Eastern politics.

01:09:54.320 After Friday night, I started looking into Macklemore's history.

01:09:57.440 What I found included his repeated use of anti-Semitic tropes made the whole thing even worse.

01:10:02.620 So I took my family.

01:10:03.840 We walked alongside hundreds of your other fans.

01:10:07.280 And as we were walking in, even the Met Life security guards were rolling their eyes at what was happening on stage.

01:10:13.940 We waited until Macklemore was finished before returning to our seats.

01:10:17.860 Then we watched your show, which was phenomenal.

01:10:20.360 I left Friday hoping maybe this had caught you and your team off guard.

01:10:24.400 Then tonight you allowed it to happen again.

01:10:26.240 You knew exactly what Macklemore had done the night before, and you gave him the stage again.

01:10:31.300 Friday night might have been Macklemore's decision.

01:10:33.700 Saturday was yours.

01:10:35.640 You have a lot of Jewish fans who love your music,

01:10:37.740 buy your albums and your merchandise,

01:10:39.300 and bring their kids to your concerts.

01:10:41.100 Tonight, you lost four of them.

01:10:43.160 And I suspect plenty more.

01:10:45.700 Well, that post, the guy has 900 followers.

01:10:49.020 It went viral.

01:10:51.800 And that's all it took.

01:10:53.780 One dad saying, you know what?

01:10:56.420 I'm sick of this.

01:10:57.760 I'm done with this.

01:10:59.120 just that one guy giving you permission and others permission to say yeah me too

01:11:06.500 here's what happened next multiple owners of stadiums of future tour stops said yeah i'm you're

01:11:15.260 not using our venue which is the fruit of their labor you're not using our venue for that okay

01:11:22.020 you want macklemore to spout this garbage go ahead but not from this venue then the singer pink who

01:11:28.760 agrees with me on probably almost nothing, came out to support the owners. And now Macklemore 0.92

01:11:35.900 is off the tour. And instead of taking his BS to main venues of American culture, he has to go

01:11:42.240 perform in Dearborn, where they love his message. And I say, good, that's great. The market is

01:11:48.640 working. The free market is working. Regular people who don't want to be lectured by lunatics

01:11:54.220 anymore they don't have to be and if you happen to be a lunatic in Dearborn Michigan you can get 0.71

01:12:01.100 that lecture this may be the first time the free Palestine crowd has gotten their much needed 0.77

01:12:08.700 reality check I got news for you guys you are not the good guys you don't have the moral high ground

01:12:16.400 here and we don't want you berating us about how great you are and how you hate Israel your whole

01:12:23.640 worldview is so tiny it can fit into the words oppressor and oppressed. That's it. You don't

01:12:30.920 have any more than that. And you're wrong about that. I think it was Bill Maher who said this

01:12:36.520 weekend, you know, the Jews are the Native Americans. How do you not get that? And you know 0.97

01:12:44.780 what? Some venues will let you speak. Others won't. It's up to them. Our schools, our culture.

01:12:54.380 I'm glad somebody's saying, no, you're not going to spread your propaganda. 0.94

01:12:58.980 We're not going to pay for your crazy anymore.

01:13:03.100 Can we just go enjoy some music? 0.79

01:13:05.880 Okay, please?

01:13:07.460 I'm so sick of these people.

01:13:10.720 I mean, I'm sick of me, honestly. 0.96

01:13:12.300 I'm sick of me. 0.99

01:13:13.200 There are times that I'm like, oh, God, shut up, man. 1.00

01:13:15.700 Who do you think you are? 0.99

01:13:16.940 That's me saying it to me.

01:13:19.300 What, I want to hear somebody else do it, especially when I'm going to see music?

01:13:23.640 At least you're not paying for this.

01:13:25.880 Pardon me to the insiders.

01:13:27.740 You're paying, but you knew what you were getting when you went in.

01:13:31.640 Imagine if all of a sudden I start singing and the insiders are like,

01:13:35.640 God, now Glenn's singing all the time.

01:13:37.540 That's not what I paid for.

01:13:38.640 Get the point.

01:13:42.360 Anyway, that's the message a father sent.

01:13:45.980 And maybe for the first time it was received loud and clear.

01:13:49.400 This is the first time since October 7th.

01:13:51.640 somebody who stood up pushed back and the system moved i think people are kind of done with it

01:13:59.820 it's the beginning of the end of that nonsense i hope i hope because we were going down a really 0.99

01:14:07.060 dark path and somebody's got to stand up no no you're a crazy lunatic go sing other than that 0.99

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01:16:03.640 and terms. Glenn Beck. I don't know when we reach the point where we have to investigate the news

01:16:20.440 before we can actually read the news, but we're definitely there. And I see a story and I think,

01:16:24.000 okay, but what actually happened? Not what does the left say what happened? Not what does the

01:16:28.620 right say but what actually happened what do we actually know this has been so frustrating and

01:16:33.920 that's how i ended up using free spoke you can see the coverage from the left the right and the

01:16:39.020 middle and where the same facts start showing up across all three then you know okay that's that's

01:16:44.840 it you got something solid you can uh decide for yourself at that point based on the facts and

01:16:50.500 that's the point search something controversial like who controls the media on free spoke you'll

01:16:55.640 get news and information from across the spectrum full picture not just what the algorithm says

01:17:00.680 you want to see i don't need somebody else deciding what i'm supposed to think

01:17:04.620 um i i will find the facts and i will decide i've got free spoke pulled up right now free spoke

01:17:11.380 one word free free speech free spoke

01:17:25.640 i'm really excited to have victor davis hansen on he's on all next hour uh and i can't wait to

01:17:34.040 talk to him because he's uh there's a lot of stuff going on that i mean this guy knows history he

01:17:39.680 knows where we've been before um and he's just such a logical thinker victor davis hansen joins

01:17:46.300 me in just a couple of minutes he'll stand by for that um i guess we have to talk about sydney

01:17:51.540 sweeney's boobs as well um there's a sentence you just don't hear every day from somebody in my

01:17:56.620 position um but uh everybody's upset apparently not everybody not everybody jason you're not

01:18:03.360 upset by this are you uh i'm the exact opposite of upset i believe you're campaigning for more

01:18:10.000 of her boobs to be seen campaigning for more including on the glennbeck program this is a 0.93

01:18:14.820 segment that i think we should do daily no i don't anyway um so she was doing an ad for who's

01:18:19.700 she doing this ad for well it's one of those prediction markets i can't remember the name of

01:18:23.120 the company so she's doing a she's doing an ad for prediction mark it's gambling okay and who is

01:18:28.300 really appealing to guys and so she's you know sitting you know in a locker room off to the side 0.90

01:18:36.220 she's got footballs that's covering her nakedness she's and she's looking hot but uh you know uh 1.00

01:18:44.260 There's another one with her sitting naked up on a basketball hoop. 0.56

01:18:49.480 And, you know, it's pretty profound. 0.90

01:18:51.040 Anyway, the reason why this is so, everybody's coming unglued is because she's not a cool kid on their side. 0.99

01:19:00.080 She refuses to wear the cool kid stickers. 1.00

01:19:02.700 She refuses to wear the kifah. 0.98

01:19:04.440 She refuses to say, hey, you know what? 1.00

01:19:07.300 The Palestinians are X, Y, Z. 0.60

01:19:10.780 You know, we need Marxism, blah, blah, blah.

01:19:13.520 I don't even know her political I just know she's not part of that she might disagree with

01:19:19.800 everything I say that I'm for I don't really care she's just not part of that scene she's like I

01:19:25.760 don't care what anybody says about me I don't care what you say I am not going to become part of the

01:19:32.580 Borg and that's what's crazy that's what does anybody remember I'm revealing myself as a giant

01:19:37.720 star trek uh geek but does anybody remember the episodes with the borg the borg was just the hive

01:19:44.900 mind the collective mind where everybody had to think alike and it was a nightmare it was supposed

01:19:50.800 to be a bad thing these guys are coming down dressed as the borg going resistance is futile 0.99

01:19:57.240 you will become part of us you're like no i don't think so and that's why she's popular with half

01:20:03.500 of the country is because she's like, no, I'm not going to be part of the Borg. I am not.

01:20:08.180 Resistance is futile. Watch me. Watch me. And all these people, all these women who are coming out

01:20:15.480 and they're saying, oh my gosh, this is so offensive. You're the same women who have been

01:20:22.900 saying for the last two weeks, a woman who killed her three children, letting her go would be the 0.91

01:20:30.020 right thing because it would forward the women's movement wait wait I mean I am all for health care

01:20:38.960 I get that but she killed she strangled her three children and you're like yeah but she's a hero

01:20:47.840 no she's not she's a killer now she may have a disease she may be mentally unstable I personally

01:20:55.500 thinking, I wasn't there, but I read enough of it. I don't, I mean, I'm out on that one, 0.78

01:21:02.480 but you can disagree with that. But she's not a hero. She's not somebody you use to

01:21:09.220 forward women. I mean, you tell people that it's fine, that girls, it's fine. You want to be a 0.99

01:21:19.060 prostitute? Be a prostitute. You need to pay for college? Be a prostitute. There's nothing wrong 1.00

01:21:24.940 with being a prostitute but a good looking woman can't sit in a pose we've all seen we've all seen 1.00

01:21:33.520 this advertisement on everything and that's pushing the women's movement back oh you got 0.96

01:21:40.600 i i mean how do you do the math really your head do you have headaches all the time

01:21:49.620 you must because i don't know how you keep that straight in your head i i mean how do you know

01:21:57.100 what you're for is it just because you're connected to the borg is that what it is because

01:22:01.180 how do you how do you know what you're for and against you you have to check right because none

01:22:06.200 of it makes logical sense you can't get up and go oh well i'm uh i'm against that when you're for

01:22:12.320 all the other stuff when you're for when you're saying that prostitution forwards women how do

01:22:20.540 you suddenly say oh what Sweeney's doing is something that we should all protest we should

01:22:25.640 all be angry about there's no logic to that it's just the message from the Borg that's all it is

01:22:31.580 so I don't get it and as far as I'm concerned

01:22:39.040 And, Sidney, I think you should keep doing this.

01:22:44.480 Justice, I mean, I'm just saying as a point, as a protest, you should keep doing it.

01:22:53.440 What are you laughing at?

01:22:55.580 I was hoping you didn't hear me laughing at that.

01:22:59.040 I would like to say, though, that I totally get it.

01:23:03.140 And especially when Sidney told Variety, she said, quote,

01:23:06.560 I'm not a political person.

01:23:07.860 I'm in the arts.

01:23:08.640 i'm not here to speak on politics that's not an area i've ever imagined getting into

01:23:12.700 they want her to be on their side no no no no no they want it no they don't want it

01:23:17.540 they must have it yeah there is no neutral in their world none you will comply or you're out 0.99

01:23:26.000 ricky yeah yeah she's um also dating a jew and not just any jew well that's the problem a jew

01:23:33.620 who went to israel to stand up for the jews after october 7th and his whose grandparents 0.70

01:23:39.620 survived auschwitz so you know everything is stacked against her she must be maga right wing

01:23:45.820 barbie to them making sense she's out well that being said if i find my husband is following her

01:23:51.520 on instagram when he goes out of the other room unfollow wait what unfollow what why would you do

01:23:59.600 that he is making a political

01:24:01.460 statement that's all he's doing

01:24:02.960 that's all he's doing

01:24:04.920 honey I'm following her for political 0.91

01:24:07.820 reasons

01:24:08.520 yes

01:24:09.520 my wife I don't 0.98

01:24:13.780 think would unfollow her

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01:29:12.820 Victor, how are you, sir?

01:29:14.120 Very good, Glenn.

01:29:15.000 Thank you for having me.

01:29:15.900 It's always great to have you on.

01:29:18.000 I'm so excited to talk to you about all the things that are going on because, in fact,

01:29:23.020 an article that I read about you today called you the best explainer of the Trump revolution

01:29:28.380 since its inception.

01:29:29.720 I think you're more than that, but it's kind of where your book is focused.

01:29:36.760 So tell me about the things that Americans are not – because I see Donald Trump and I see what he's doing and he's completely redesigning the entire world.

01:29:50.200 and he is making the western hemisphere the source of power and security for uh america

01:29:59.500 for the next 100 years and i think people are so focused and rightly so folks so focused on like

01:30:06.180 the gas prices and everything else that they're missing no no you don't understand in five years

01:30:11.720 from now in 10 years from now this country roars um for the next 100 years because of what he has

01:30:18.600 done. Would you agree with that or not? Yeah, I think they have a problem with communicating

01:30:24.240 though, because when he left office, there was a change in Latin America. But remember,

01:30:30.760 they called it under Biden, the pink tide. In other words, the left here in the United States

01:30:35.720 and in Latin America was very confident that all these communist governments were the wave of the 0.94

01:30:41.760 future maduro remember was sending 2 million people here from hospitals drug users felons

01:30:50.020 and now if you look at south america central america and the caribbean of the 30 those 32

01:30:56.680 nations there's only five i think that are communist or anti-american they've had a revolution

01:31:02.280 in Colombia, Peru, Bolivia, Venezuela, Chile,

01:31:08.100 and all there is left is Paraguay, Cuba, Nicaragua, Mexico,

01:31:14.340 and maybe one other, and yet we're not hearing that.

01:31:17.740 No.

01:31:17.880 And we're not hearing that at all.

01:31:20.100 And if everybody's talking about a forever or endless war in Iran,

01:31:25.080 but as we speak, there's so many known unknowns.

01:31:29.640 The Kurds have been very active the last week.

01:31:32.280 There's rumors that there's dissidents are starting to come back out on the street. 0.78

01:31:36.880 And everybody says, well, the Iranians are gaming us on the midterms. 1.00

01:31:42.980 That may be true. 1.00

01:31:44.180 They think they might get a reprieve if they can have an October surprise or missile launch that weakens Trump and he loses the Congress.

01:31:52.100 But even then, he can still continue what he's trying to do.

01:31:56.160 But more importantly, that works both ways.

01:31:59.120 The dissidents might conjecture, well, the Democrats are no friend of us, and if they were to take Congress and try to hamper Trump, we would be in worse situation, and maybe us and maybe the Kurds would then think, we're going to do something, we should do it in September or October, because we're not going to have such a golden opportunity with an unfettered Trump again, if that were to be true.

01:32:24.180 And then you add to the equation, Glenn, there's no embedded reporters, there's no Western journalists, so all we hear is this doom and gloom.

01:32:32.640 But when you hear people calling out from Iran, and they're very reluctant to because they can be tracked, you get the impression they can't afford food or fuel, this infrastructure's breaking down, and they're close to, I think they're close to near starvation.

01:32:49.620 so something's going to give very soon i don't know what's going to be two months one month

01:32:55.020 three months or five months but um nobody thought that was possible two or three years ago 93 million

01:33:01.780 people the bully of the middle east about to be nuclear don't touch it seven presidents said

01:33:07.180 in the past they can't have a nuclear weapon but they they didn't want to take the risk of 0.70

01:33:12.740 confronting that crazy regime i i will tell you that um uh i wouldn't have had the guts to do it

01:33:20.820 i'm glad he did i i wouldn't have had the guts to do it that's why i would make a very bad president

01:33:25.240 um uh but he took it on and he knew he has told me glenn i knew we would be able to do x y and z

01:33:34.040 i knew i could keep oil under a hundred dollars a barrel now that has he also knew that they would

01:33:41.100 negotiate or they would uh collapse under their own weight and that's not happening and i think

01:33:45.640 that's just because they're holding out just hold out hold out in hopes that they'll have a reprieve

01:33:51.260 from the democrats uh at some point um but something has to happen we are we are you know

01:33:59.300 this uh oil game cannot continue to be like this are you still convinced that this is going to work

01:34:09.260 out in a way that is good um or you know is it kind of up in the air where where are you on this

01:34:16.740 long term i'm very optimistic um but short term i think uh it's just a question of what the price

01:34:27.220 of oil is and what iran is trying to do as a surprise i do think that the administration

01:34:33.300 kept talking about the denominator uh the the numerator so to speak we got 97 of the missiles

01:34:40.160 we got 58 of this but they never talked about the denominator how many were in existence so where

01:34:47.500 they destroyed thousands of these missiles i don't think anybody had any idea that there were tens

01:34:53.560 of thousands sequestered all over the country and they had been waiting for this for years

01:34:58.880 so i don't know to what degree they're going to be able to launch 30 40 50 right before the election

01:35:05.460 and cost trump the midterms that could happen and oil could go up but the long term and i mean

01:35:13.900 three six nine months from now i think is very similar to the fall of berlin wall everybody said

01:35:20.220 it fell nothing happened in the soviet union but it did it took about 22 months and then and it did

01:35:28.860 and same thing with eastern europe they said well what happened well all of a sudden they started

01:35:33.020 toppling two or three five months later all of eastern europe and so they've got enormous

01:35:38.380 pressures on them and i don't i think what happens in war you don't hit upon the right you know

01:35:44.700 strategy lincoln went through six generals before he found sherman and grant and a good strategy

01:35:50.860 and what i'm getting at is had we done what we're doing now

01:35:54.780 with secondary sanctions and this anaconda strategy and really shutting down everything

01:36:00.780 i think if we had done that from the outset and planned it we'd be in a better situation and had

01:36:06.340 we not negotiated after day 38 and say waited until day 50 we would have been in a better but

01:36:12.540 that's all hindsight when you look at the oil situation we're the biggest producer and now

01:36:17.860 exporter of oil in the world 14 million barrels and we're they think they can get up with alaska

01:36:24.460 coming on 16 million barrels the war ukraine will end one way or another very soon i think

01:36:30.940 i would like ukraine to win but i'm not sure that they're they're capable of that so they're going

01:36:36.940 to be a negotiated settlement of some sort and russia will pump like crazy to get back its lost

01:36:42.960 revenues venezuela will increase by another three or four hundred thousand barrels china has i don't

01:36:49.940 know what they've been doing, but they've gone from 75% of their oil imports down to they're

01:36:57.360 only importing about 60%. I guess they had a huge strategic reserve. So they found a way to lose

01:37:04.400 less oil. And I think when we resolve this with Canada, one reaction will be the Canadians will

01:37:12.300 conclude that they're going to have to change their energy policy and allow provinces to build

01:37:19.420 more pipelines and get more product out of the soil that their green initiative has been disastrous

01:37:24.140 so and the same thing is happening in europe so i i think there's going to be a lot more oil on the

01:37:30.700 market very soon and the price will get reasonable again and then the full effect of the trump

01:37:36.380 deregulation foreign investment tax we what best sense constantly talking about will come to

01:37:42.620 fruition at the end of the year but even now i mean we just had 160 000 new jobs the inflation

01:37:49.820 rate is still about 3.1 the average 5.1 under biden every year and the stock market is still

01:37:57.100 pretty good so we're not in a recession we're i think stabilizing and i think it's going to get

01:38:04.140 better so i'm cautiously optimistic i'm a little pessimistic or disturbed that there are people on

01:38:11.180 our side that when they look at the trump agenda and their own past positions they've agreed say

01:38:18.620 90 with the border crime the crime reducing the crime deportations uh energy policy end of d

01:38:29.180 trying to stop dei all of that but on this one issue they they have made it a do or die issue

01:38:38.500 and now they're apostates people and they're not just quiet upon i can see if you don't

01:38:43.620 you you object to the iran war and you claim it's a forever endless war or it's an optional

01:38:49.940 war that trump said he wasn't going to do supposedly but to reject the entire mega movement

01:38:56.500 and then be vocal and in the way that marjorie taylor green or tucker and i knew a lot of these

01:39:03.040 people and like them still do but thomas massey those people candace owens they are taking positions

01:39:11.760 that are antithetical not in so much to the mega position but to what they have been trying to tell

01:39:17.440 us for 10 years they have they're starting to reject in their anger they were getting very

01:39:22.940 close to the the ideology and the the comportment of never trumpers in 2016 and where does that where

01:39:30.580 does that go what why is that happening um because it's well i think go ahead yeah i i think they

01:39:37.760 feel that when they look at the polls there are 75 percent now oppose the war and the left has

01:39:45.320 that up and they're riding that wave number one i'll i'll be i'll be candid too i think

01:39:52.640 they all had intimacy with donald trump in the sense that they and a lot of people do they were

01:39:58.340 familiar with her they went to mar-a-lago tucker said he campaigned uh megan said she kelly she

01:40:04.820 was on air force one i understand that marjorie taylor green trump said was calling him but you

01:40:10.440 have to react to that one or two ways you have to put that in perspective that he's the president

01:40:16.400 of the united states and no matter how close you think you are there's 20 000 other people who

01:40:22.220 share that sense false sense but he's the president so i think they felt and they almost said that

01:40:30.580 that they were going to call donald j trump up and say i don't like this iran war i don't like

01:40:35.760 the and i want you to do this this this and when he didn't react in a way they thought they thought

01:40:41.280 well i was campaigning with him i knew him he calls me in all the time it means nothing nothing

01:40:46.920 Exactly. Exactly. But they thought it did and they were hurt. And so they reacted in a way that was, you know, when you say I'm going to I think El Saeed is a better candidate than Mike Rogers. Or you say the Epstein files show that Trump was guilty of sex. All of that stuff is crazy.

01:41:08.120 I have to tell you, he said to me one time something was going on, and it wasn't about politics, but something was going on.

01:41:14.480 He said, Glenn, why didn't you call me about that?

01:41:16.420 And I said, because you're the president of the United States.

01:41:21.680 You know, you don't pick up the phone.

01:41:23.460 Hey, I got it.

01:41:24.180 Hey, Don, I got an idea for you.

01:41:26.280 What about this?

01:41:26.960 You don't do that.

01:41:28.180 I mean, you could write him.

01:41:29.700 You could go around and say, hey, these are some ideas.

01:41:33.240 But if he rejects them, he rejects them.

01:41:34.900 He's the president of the United States.

01:41:36.780 And I've never seen anybody who is more in tune with their own gut.

01:41:40.860 Like it or not, he does what he feels is right.

01:41:44.900 Exactly.

01:41:45.580 And I think anybody who's talked to him, and he's called me, but I've always had a policy that I wouldn't call him.

01:41:52.940 I wouldn't ask for anything.

01:41:54.240 I wouldn't give unsolicited advice.

01:41:56.120 I would listen to what he said, and I would answer when requested.

01:41:59.320 Yes.

01:42:00.240 And I felt that it was a privilege to talk to the President of the United States.

01:42:03.720 And I, after each call, I thought there would never be another one.

01:42:07.740 So the point I'm making is they, I don't think they shared that attitude that you were talking about.

01:42:12.640 I think they felt they were, had become shakers, movers and shakers of his policy.

01:42:18.000 And they didn't understand another thing is he ran as a Jacksonian, not a neocon nation builder, not an isolationist.

01:42:26.520 So, if you look at his first term, he killed more Russians repelling the Wagner attack, somewhere between 200 and 300, probably than any ground soldiers that Russia lost to us in the Cold War.

01:42:38.680 He took out Soleimani.

01:42:40.100 He took out Baghdadi. 0.77

01:42:41.800 He said he was going to bomb the blank blank out of ISIS, and he bombed him for over two months, and he did. 0.80

01:42:48.220 And then he had the Maduro. 0.52

01:42:50.420 So he always was sort of a don't tread on me, no better friend, no enemy, Andrew Jackson type.

01:42:58.360 I'm not looking for trouble, but if I see people on the horizon that keep threatening us and threatening us, I'm not going to wait until they get into a position to hurt us.

01:43:08.740 But he did keep the primary promise that he doesn't believe in putting ground troops in optional wars for an extended period of time.

01:43:17.740 One day in Venezuela.

01:43:18.960 and i don't think he's going to put any ground troops and we hope he doesn't but i don't think

01:43:24.740 he will in iran after the misadventure in afghanistan i think he is uh i think he's very

01:43:30.980 aware that this has to end but he's also he despises war and despises putting troops on

01:43:39.520 the ground he hates that um and uh i would be surprised too if if he did he would have a very

01:43:46.140 good reason he would be like he would i don't know if he would ever say this you know outside

01:43:50.320 of his own circle but he would be like there's no other choice there's absolutely no other choice

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01:45:42.780 and then and then come right back to you but uh i want to ask you this you you you talk about in

01:45:47.200 your uh in your book that he just doesn't care he does things that nobody else does because he

01:45:52.860 doesn't care about what people are going to say about him um do you know any other president that

01:45:59.100 has been like this i mean i think he's completely unique in american history for a president on what

01:46:05.640 he's done and what he's willing to do yeah i think so too the closest in our lifetime i think was

01:46:11.500 reagan he he had a different reaction to it uh trump will react in kind to attacks on him but

01:46:17.860 doesn't affect him reagan would kind of smile and slough it off but it it didn't affect reagan that

01:46:25.380 much i don't think but he he has a certain idea that america has all this potential and it was

01:46:32.740 squandered during the progressive project that period especially of uh barack obama and joe

01:46:40.500 biden but also institutionally with the media the control the media the corporation academia

01:46:45.780 entertainment k through 12. they exercise power besides the ballot because they're

01:46:51.860 they're in the bureau in the permanent sense and he wanted to stage not the causes of that

01:46:58.260 a stage in a counter-revolution but the symptoms that not the symptoms i should say but the causes

01:47:03.940 he didn't do that in the first administration this time he said it's 360 degrees economic

01:47:09.380 military social we're going to go after npr pbs uh tax endowments tax remittances to mexico

01:47:17.420 address the trans issue the dia everything was on the table and that was a very i have never

01:47:23.580 the only person that tried that was fdr and but and he had you know the great depression

01:47:29.220 the people were willing to go go along with him right and he changed the country i think for the

01:47:34.300 worst. So I want to ask you when we come back, I want to ask you then what is his legacy? Because

01:47:41.200 if we don't, if he doesn't lose it here, uh, and we continue, um, his legacy, I think is

01:47:49.200 remarkable. Uh, and I'd like you to define his, his legacy. And we'll talk a little bit about,

01:47:55.840 um, uh, also the midterms back with more Victor Davis Hanson, the name of his book that you want

01:48:03.740 to get it's out right now is the counter revolution the fallen rise of donald trump and the mega

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01:49:25.240 Coming up, what happens to MAGA when Trump is gone?

01:49:27.940 More with Victor Davis Hanson and his new book.

01:49:30.220 next on the Glenn Beck Program.

01:49:48.780 Welcome to the program.

01:49:50.160 We have Victor Davis Hanson on.

01:49:51.800 He's got a new book out called Counter-Revolution.

01:49:54.180 He's great.

01:49:55.060 His books are great.

01:49:56.900 We were talking about Donald Trump

01:49:58.960 And somebody wrote to me yesterday and said, Glenn, the Tea Party did nothing, blah, blah, blah.

01:50:05.020 And I thought, no, no, the Tea Party did a lot.

01:50:07.100 The Tea Party was the beginning of Donald Trump and getting there.

01:50:11.480 And then he took it and made it into his own thing.

01:50:15.240 And he's not a Republican.

01:50:16.820 He is his own genuine counter-revolution.

01:50:22.860 Yes.

01:50:23.880 Yeah, I believe that.

01:50:24.580 I think he had elements of – he looked at the Ron Paul movement.

01:50:28.440 He looked at the Buchanan movement.

01:50:30.000 He looked at the Tea Party, which really didn't have a centralized command or a leader.

01:50:35.640 And he took what he wanted from each of them, and he rejected what he wanted.

01:50:39.420 He made a really strategically brilliant decision.

01:50:42.180 He said for all the years he said he was going to run, he never ran against an incumbent Republican, as did Perot, and as did others, Buchanan.

01:50:52.680 So he wasn't considered an apostate that hurt the party.

01:50:55.980 He didn't run as the third party.

01:50:57.920 he saw there was no future there and he didn't run when there was an incumbent uh democrat that had

01:51:03.680 the advantages so he picked 2016 and he picked a weak candidate so that those were all strategic

01:51:09.840 moves as far as legacy i think it's threefold he changed the republican party into a worker

01:51:17.280 middle class party and he did that partly by substitute substituting racial tribalism that

01:51:23.920 both parties indulged and he made a common class consciousness so we had 26 percent of the black

01:51:30.800 of black males 52 54 percent of hispanic males voted for him and i think he was saying to them

01:51:37.080 i'm worried about china taking your job i'm worried about uh free but unfair trade i'm worried about 0.70

01:51:46.340 your tips i'm doing i'm not going to get rid of social security the black truck driver the white 0.82

01:51:53.340 electrician and the hispanic plumber have more in common with each other than they do with their 0.55

01:51:59.600 elites in the media or academia does he still have that that's going to be or the yeah i mean

01:52:06.720 because the marxist i mean you know it's very hard because uh when i talk i live in a community

01:52:13.940 it's 95 hispanic privately all of them are delighted about the deportations to take that

01:52:20.880 example because the kidney dialysis local kidney dialysis clinics and the er are not they're not

01:52:27.500 crowded and all of that stuff as they were but publicly their children are in college

01:52:32.820 it's a middle class community now and it's not popular to say that it was popular in 2024 so

01:52:41.180 we'll see it depends i think a lot on the next three months but he did change the parties and

01:52:47.780 he changed the democratic party he the for all the trash talking and the crudity and the tweets

01:52:52.880 and the memes he did something he damaged hillary clinton in a way she never recovered he damaged 0.97

01:52:59.940 barack obama he damaged all of those people became i mean they they lost their mind and

01:53:06.000 with that loss of mind they changed that party into a islamicist socialist radical party does

01:53:13.560 that last you know i don't think that i don't think that that i think it's exactly like 1972

01:53:19.420 when they look back at 68 and they said humphrey was an old fuddy-duddy you know actually he he

01:53:25.460 came within 100 000 votes of beating nixon and and the proper course would have been to follow his

01:53:31.180 get it get a little bit more moderate than humphrey but they got radical with mcgovern and

01:53:36.420 he destroyed the party and it was i think it was a large second largest popular vote landslide in

01:53:42.300 history in 72 and then they said basically we've got to get go back and get a president nominee

01:53:49.360 that has a southern accent so they had carter wasn't that conservative but they seemed like

01:53:55.320 it was and then they went with clinton and then they went with gore and that was back trending

01:54:00.860 in those days to the middle and i think they'll have to do that because i don't think they're

01:54:05.580 going to win if they continue and how do they get how do they get these people out i mean there's 0.89

01:54:10.980 some really dangerous i mean really literally islamist literally marxists yes how do you get 0.86

01:54:17.540 them out well they have to change glenn because if you look at the dsa agenda and you look what 0.84

01:54:24.260 the democratic party has been doing the last five years i don't see that much difference they say

01:54:29.920 everybody says this you know pack the court uh two new states in the filibuster destroy the

01:54:35.660 Electoral College.

01:54:36.900 Same thing. 0.99

01:54:37.860 Same thing.

01:54:38.840 All these guys came in, and now they're even admitting it because they're trying to mainstream El Saeed and Tallarico.

01:54:45.900 All they did was say, well, you're Pelosi, Schumer, you're old fuddy-duddies.

01:54:50.700 We need youthful people that can relate to young people, especially the downwardly mobile, mostly white, urban people with degrees.

01:54:59.860 and they're overeducated in a sense and they they don't they don't feel they're compensated

01:55:04.280 according to their genius they think and they got all of those people that's who the democratic

01:55:09.540 social but the the agenda wasn't different the other thing he did very quickly domestically

01:55:16.420 uh with the tax reductions and the deregulation and we talked about all the other things he did

01:55:24.980 the border deal they were wonderful but he basically said to u.s industry especially

01:55:30.300 silicon valley he said you don't like me i don't like you but i'm not going to micromanage you i'm

01:55:36.200 going to be a nationalist just like fdr henry kaiser henry ford they didn't like fdr but he

01:55:42.520 let them produce and make a profit we won world war ii so trump is saying i will protect you from

01:55:49.160 canada's surcharges i will protect you from censorship but you've got to help me and when

01:55:55.000 you look at what's happened on if you look at the 10 top companies in ai software digital media

01:56:03.800 bioengineering space launches satellite we're eight or nine out of the top 10 worldwide it's

01:56:11.220 just a whole different world than what we were told would happen by this period 10 years ago

01:56:15.840 we have 31 trillion dollars in gdp china that has four times our population is only 21

01:56:23.420 europe was supposed to pass us they said that we had the same gdp in 2001 and they said in 20 years

01:56:29.980 we will be failing and they have 100 million more people but they have 10 trillion less gdp

01:56:36.640 and canada used to be pretty close to us their per capita gdp is the lowest growth of the

01:56:44.020 industrialized world and their per capita gdp income if you divide it by population they're

01:56:50.880 40 000 each person less poorer than we are so there's been a very quiet revolution that we

01:56:57.960 are starting to in space and software and ai we're starting to dominate it's why the president i i

01:57:05.140 think you know it's why the president is focusing on all of this you know it's you know when you're

01:57:11.020 When you are wildly in debt as a human being, you have two ways.

01:57:15.960 You can sell, get out of that debt, but also you've got to get another job to pay that.

01:57:23.100 Well, there's no other job.

01:57:24.440 The job that's on the horizon is AI.

01:57:28.280 It's energy and AI, and that's why he's dominating because he knows that's the only way, if you could ever pay this debt off,

01:57:35.640 That's the only way you have a chance of surviving, thriving, and also being able to work out the debt is to own those two things because that's where all the money in the future is going to be.

01:57:48.160 Yeah, I think that's exactly why he's so adamant that he's going to continue with AI and energy development and also money from tariffs.

01:57:57.340 Does any of this stuff last, though?

01:58:00.700 When he leaves, does it last?

01:58:03.240 Yeah, I think it does.

01:58:04.360 i really do because i think in a year from now the country is going to be very prosperous

01:58:09.300 and uh they're going to they're going to criticize it if there's in 2029 if there's a

01:58:19.220 post-presidential picture and we have george h.w bush george w bush and we have barack obama bill

01:58:26.700 clinton even if joe biden all of them there won't be donald trump invited he won't be invited no

01:58:32.940 he he will be despised for a short term maybe five years but historically

01:58:38.520 you can't deny what he's he's done and we haven't even you know foreign policy he remade as i said

01:58:45.240 the western hemisphere he made nato nato is a completely different organization he he told me

01:58:51.860 once when when he was running he said glenn i want to be remembered alongside george washington

01:58:56.820 and abraham lincoln and i didn't say this i just thought to myself well there there's there's a

01:59:00.780 Donald Trump goal for you just shoot for the biggest um and I thought you know well good luck

01:59:06.740 good luck a lot of people would like to be in that category I think he is going to be in that

01:59:12.260 category he won't be for 10 years but if these things hold he is in that category he has

01:59:20.060 possibly saved the republic for the for the next 100 years it is transforming but it is

01:59:28.640 closer to america than any other idea that anybody else had and he's almost done it single-handedly

01:59:37.180 he has and that explains i try to say that in the book and that explains why they conducted

01:59:43.360 probably the worst abuse of our jurisprudence in our history with the four criminal and the one

01:59:50.620 g e gene carroll lawfare the raiding of mar-a-lago they're trying to get him off 25 state ballots 0.95

01:59:57.060 of the two impeachments the trial when he was a private citizen the only president in history

02:00:02.480 the secret service is fired at a potential assassin on four different occasions and the 0.98

02:00:09.260 vituperation kathy griffith robert denaro snooped off we're going to kill him we're going to stab 1.00

02:00:16.080 him we're going to behead him we're going to burn him up we're going to blow him up the white house 1.00

02:00:19.280 that all reflects what he's trying to do he's it's kind of like andrew jackson the aristocracy 1.00

02:00:27.400 the adams and even the old virginia aristocracy that produced such great presidents but by the

02:00:35.560 time jackson in the 18 late 1820s there was a whole new world and he knew it and they despised

02:00:42.760 him they hated him and he did a lot of things that were very controversial and some that were

02:00:48.300 regret very bad yeah he's he's still a transact a transformative figure and he changed the culture

02:00:56.000 and he and i don't think anybody up to that time had been hated as much as andrew jackson

02:01:00.280 so and i think trump trump is sort of the same tragic figure he reminds me as i've said in the

02:01:06.800 book of a i i grew up on you know you did too glenn what the westerns shane yes the searchers

02:01:14.720 there's always a sense of a paralysis or crisis in a community whether it's the banditos or the

02:01:22.480 cattle barons or the lost girl or native american attacks and they brought they draw on somebody

02:01:28.560 who comes out comes from nowhere and he has a certain set of skills and in their dire need

02:01:36.080 they're happy to employ him he settles the problem and then he gives them a margin of

02:01:41.920 error and say everything's going pretty well um i think it's time for you to leave i can't believe

02:01:47.120 we ever had you in here you i don't approve of what you did even though they were the beneficial

02:01:52.240 and then you know shane rides off or the magnificent seven say well they're glad to see us

02:01:56.880 go and that that comes out of a long tradition that predated the western and greek tragedy has

02:02:03.760 a lot of characters that way and i think trump knew that that he knew that to get things done

02:02:10.080 one he adopted something that was innate to him anyway a very tough way of talking i don't care

02:02:18.260 uh and i don't care what they say about me but i'm going to cut through i do not want these

02:02:24.260 washington i've never seen anybody like him because he really doesn't care um let me ask you

02:02:29.120 um the um you're a historian put yourself 50 years out yes the biggest accomplishments

02:02:36.440 of this presidency what will they say they were and how is he remembered 50 years from now

02:02:42.680 i think let's just say three or four of them i think he stopped the progressive project and we

02:02:50.680 are not going to go down that socialist pathway i think he stopped it i i think it's going to be

02:02:57.320 there's a battles to be fought but he gave people the encouragement that they can be defeated and

02:03:03.540 And their hysteria exhibits that they thought,

02:03:07.560 that they know they were vulnerable

02:03:08.880 because their agenda was contrary to human nature.

02:03:12.360 And then second, I think he shocked Europe.

02:03:16.960 They made fun of him, but when he was inaugurated

02:03:20.180 and he went into Notre Dame,

02:03:21.700 he was like that line out of Shakespeare, a colossus,

02:03:24.200 and all those people were clamoring to get near him.

02:03:26.520 And they were basically saying, we hate you,

02:03:29.520 but you gave us the inspiration to close our borders

02:03:33.420 to deport people to look toward fossil fuels to rearm and to open up and that's what sweden that's

02:03:42.140 what denmark that's what eastern europe is doing the governments that are socialist in britain and

02:03:46.940 france are shaky germany italy all of these countries are following our model in a way i

02:03:54.200 think canada will too i think carney's gonna blow it and there'll be a change there so i i think

02:04:01.460 he's really changed europe he's changed we said that we mentioned the west the western hemisphere 0.83

02:04:06.240 the only great there's two great obstacles can he stop the chinese agenda to dominate the world 0.96

02:04:13.440 and can he end the idea that we have to be permanently in the middle east because it's 0.99

02:04:19.460 a dysfunctional pathological place and he's trying on both fronts he's not getting a lot of help

02:04:25.600 well there's an understatement yes yes so he's but those are ambitious goals if he pulls the

02:04:34.020 middle east off and iran that government falls and he can outpower china that will be yeah that'll

02:04:42.220 be historic um victor davis hanson the name of the book is the counter revolution the fall and rise

02:04:49.260 of donald trump and the mega movement it's always great to talk to you thank you so much

02:04:53.940 Well, thank you for having me, Glenn.

02:04:55.200 You bet.

02:04:55.380 I appreciate it.

02:04:55.860 God bless.

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02:06:46.820 scared to believe it it's reasoned and logical and that's not how i see american people anymore

02:06:51.940 i pray he's right i'm not sure if past history has a pattern for us today to see our future it

02:06:56.920 does you know it really does it usually rhymes uh i pray he's right as well that was a great

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The Glenn Beck Program - September 15, 2026

Victor Davis Hanson Predicts What Happens to MAGA After Trump ｜ Guest： Victor Davis Hanson ｜ 9⧸15⧸26

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