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00:01:09.540 in america today or tonight at nine o'clock we find out if we're going to be a nation under another

00:01:17.860 national emergency is this a national emergency what does that mean if the president says we're just

00:01:28.920 going to spend the money does he have the legal right to do it what are the ramifications of it

00:01:36.240 i thought we should start with a pro and con list and i want to hear from you the pros and the cons

00:01:43.780 of having the president declare a national emergency tonight to be able to get the border built pros and

00:01:53.780 cons let's look at this dispassionately because i know what my passion says i'm guessing i know what

00:02:01.200 your passion says let's look at the facts first we do that right now

00:02:08.400 this is the glenbeck program welcome to it um we by the way for uh anybody who is just uh joining us

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00:04:08.200 promo code glenn all right what would you say if i told you that officially we were already

00:04:23.580 uh under uh under a state of emergency 28 different states of emergencies they never ever go away you

00:04:35.060 can't once you declare a national emergency the president does and i make no mistake i believe he

00:04:41.300 has this power to do it and i think it's an important power for the president to have but the way it's

00:04:46.980 designed it never ever goes away because it takes both houses to just majority vote no but then it goes

00:04:56.000 to the president and he has to veto well he's the guy who just proposed it so he's not going to veto it he

00:05:04.480 is he is going to veto it then you have to have two-thirds of congress over um uh overturn his veto well

00:05:13.920 that almost never happens and in fact in history it never has happened but if you look at the national

00:05:21.000 emergencies that we have they all kind of fall into the same category who was the first president to

00:05:28.160 declare a national emergency can you even guess it was jimmy carter and it happened in 1979

00:05:38.780 so we went from 1780 uh 1791 or 1789 to 1979 without a national emergency we went through world war one world war two

00:05:53.620 we went through the civil war no national emergencies 1979 was the first and i want you to listen to the

00:06:02.620 pattern blocking the iranian government property november 14th 1979 so that's what obama when he

00:06:09.960 flew all that cash back that's what obama uh was usurping now he was giving back their property but

00:06:19.020 that still remains we're still under a state of emergency blocking property so carter did it against

00:06:25.300 iran and then you know the the billions of dollars we sent over there was essentially the other side of

00:06:30.020 that transaction they were complaining about how we kept their stuff all this time correct yeah but

00:06:33.860 we never got rid of the national emergency right uh proliferation of weapons of mass destruction

00:06:39.080 november 14th 1994 so the next guy who did it was bill clinton now listen to this so the first

00:06:46.360 president to ever do it 1979 was was uh um a carter he only did it once then reagan never did it

00:06:56.220 bush never did it then 1994 clinton gets out his pen proliferation of weapons of mass destruction

00:07:04.260 then prohibiting transactions with terrorists who threatened to disrupt the middle east peace process

00:07:09.720 in 1995 prohibiting certain transactions with respect to the development of the iranian petroleum

00:07:15.140 resources 1995 also in 1995 blocking acts assets and prohibiting transactions with significant

00:07:22.700 narcotic traffickers then in 96 regulations of the anchorage and movement of vessels with respect to

00:07:30.440 cuba then in 97 blocking sudanese government property and prohibiting transactions with sudan

00:07:36.560 blocking property of persons who threaten international stabilization efforts in the western balkans that's

00:07:42.020 2001 so now george bush is getting into it and here's where it really picks up the speed

00:07:48.740 continuation of export control regulations august 17th 2001 declaration of national emergency by reason

00:07:56.940 of certain terrorist attacks september 14th 2001 then september 23rd blocking property and prohibiting

00:08:05.580 transactions with persons who commit threaten to commit or support terrorism then blocking property of

00:08:11.480 persons undermining democratic process or institutions in zimbabwe march 6 2003 then

00:08:18.580 protecting the protecting the development fund for iraq and certain other property in which iraq has an

00:08:23.400 interest march 2003 blocking property of persons and prohibiting the export of certain goods to syria may

00:08:32.240 2004 blocking property of certain persons undermining democratic processes and institutions in belarus june

00:08:41.040 2006 also in october 2006 blocking property of certain persons contributing to the conflict of the

00:08:48.400 democratic democratic republic of the congo then blocking property in persons undermining the sovereignty of

00:08:53.560 lebanon and its democratic process and institutions in 2007 then we have in june 2006 continuing certain

00:09:03.700 restrictions with respect to north korea and north korean nationalists and that is 2008 now we're into

00:09:11.660 blocking property of obama time blocking property of certain persons continuing to uh the conflict in somalia

00:09:18.360 blocking property of certain transactions related to libya blocking property of transnational criminal organizations

00:09:25.360 blocking property of persons threatening peace security stability in yemen blocking property of certain persons

00:09:31.920 contributing to the situation in ukraine that's in 2014 blocking property of certain persons with respect to south sudan

00:09:38.720 in 14 blocking the property of certain persons contributing to the conflict in the central african republic

00:09:45.180 blocking property suspending the entry of certain persons contributing to the situation in venezuela

00:09:50.680 then brought brock blocking the property of certain persons engaging in significant malicious cyber enabled

00:09:56.540 activities in 2015 and the last one that obama did blocking property of certain persons contributing to the

00:10:03.300 situation in burundi that's in 2015 now what do those all have in common they're all blocking property and

00:10:10.660 possessions of potential terrorists or uh you know inflamed newly inflamed uh hot spots around the globe

00:10:18.440 right um they none of the none of it would fall under the you know category of new spending or anything

00:10:24.580 like that it's all blocking property and that's what it's been used for right it is it is making sure that

00:10:30.540 people the bad guys don't have access to more funds or transfer funds across international borders

00:10:37.640 or that we do anything to help the bad guys that's what the emergency action has been since it was first

00:10:46.900 used in 1979 and i would say too another thing that i think a lot of those have in common not all

00:10:52.900 certainly certainly not september 14th 2001 but most of them i would say are lower on the priority list of

00:10:59.000 american sovereignty and security than the act than the border security issue is like what's going on

00:11:05.120 in burundi might be very important and it probably is uh but i would not put that on the level of

00:11:11.600 september 11th september 11th or building a wall on our southern border right i mean i think like

00:11:16.780 that doesn't mean that there was no reason to use those things but it you know so here is the here's the

00:11:23.060 here's the issue it's not since 2006 that the americans have said we want a border wall that's

00:11:32.620 when congress including hillary clinton and barack obama signed into law a border wall secure fence act

00:11:41.220 of 2006 we signed it in and everybody in the senate and congress tried to convince me oh no glenn this

00:11:48.940 time it's real no it's not i mean i knew it wasn't and you knew it wasn't they had no intention of doing

00:11:55.400 it they were just placating the american people but this doesn't start in 2006 the reason why it was

00:12:02.920 popular for obama and hillary clinton to sign it in in 2006 was because we all knew what happened just a

00:12:10.920 few short years ago in 2001 and no one was willing to do anything about it our borders north

00:12:18.780 and south are trouble but there's another there's another piece of the puzzle

00:12:24.460 the the overwhelming problem that we have is overstayed visas and they've never fixed that either

00:12:34.140 that's that was the number one problem on september 11th that's still the number one problem with

00:12:40.600 terror and a border wall won't have anything to do with that it won't fix it but i don't think that's

00:12:47.140 where the american people are they know that they don't think this is a fix all they just think this

00:12:53.040 is one box that needs to be checked and no one will ever check it if i'm if i'm reading the american

00:13:01.700 people right the american people know that this is a problem and they're tired of waiting around and

00:13:10.280 being told by one party or the other we're going to fix that because bill clinton said he would fix that

00:13:17.160 senator barack obama said he would fix that hillary clinton said she would fix that george bush said he

00:13:25.760 would fix that no one has fixed that no one is serious about it except the american people

00:13:32.820 so tonight i think people are going to be split in two camps the democrats who have been brainwashed

00:13:42.140 that oh no this is just racist no it's not they're going to be against it even though their leaders

00:13:50.240 signed it in in 2006 when all the rest of the democrats remembered september 11th

00:13:56.820 they're going to be brainwashed and they're going to say no this is nothing about race nothing but race

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00:16:24.900 this is the glenbeck program so stew let's look at what let's start a pro and con list the pros as i see

00:16:47.740 it is that this would mean that there would be a permanent solution and i think that's the number

00:16:52.740 one thing that conservatives are looking for we're tired of having this same battle and being told

00:16:58.320 we're going to take care of it knowing that they're not going to take care of it they're not going to

00:17:02.180 be serious about it and so this provides something that goes beyond this president and it's done right

00:17:10.040 unless they decide to blow it up or tear it down which i would put necessarily past the future president

00:17:14.520 right uh well i can see them not repairing it just not just let it go to waste um okay so you have a

00:17:22.120 permanent solution you have more security you haven't solved the problem but you have more

00:17:28.440 security definitely improvement right yes a move in the right direction a big move in the right direction

00:17:34.560 and you have accountability right accountability how do you mean that um you have uh somebody who's

00:17:44.240 willing to say i'm responsible for this sure yeah that's nice to hear occasionally right the buck

00:17:50.920 stops here that's the one thing that uh i think both republicans and democrats want maybe not on the

00:17:58.280 same things but they want someone to say buck stops here and and that is that is the real problem

00:18:07.820 with like government shutdowns and things like that is the more we don't believe in the federal

00:18:15.620 government the more we want someone anyone just to step in and say i'll fix it because we think these

00:18:23.340 things are common sense i believe the border wall is common sense i mean i want a bigger door i want

00:18:31.300 more qualified people coming in i want the best people from all over the world to come in but i what i don't

00:18:40.140 want are people coming in through the windows and through the the side doors that we don't know who's

00:18:46.080 in the house and i don't want that in any way shape or form i don't want that from sweden and i don't want 1.00

00:18:52.540 that from libya and i don't want that from mexico it seems like you know the basic common sense common

00:19:01.000 sense when it comes to having a country and having borders you have to be able to control them if they get

00:19:06.920 out of control right no one's talking about a fence between us and canada because that is not an out

00:19:11.820 of control border this one is uh and we have to do something to stop it the fence would it would help

00:19:18.820 quite a bit and they've already let us down after they we've elected them and they've passed bills

00:19:23.560 promising it okay including votes from diane feinstein and barbara boxer and barack obama and

00:19:29.500 hillary clinton this is not a republican measure very recently no it was 2006 and that is that's the thing

00:19:35.620 the president's going to hang his hat on tonight i think if he does this he may not do this i think

00:19:40.980 he's going to you mean as far as actually saying the state of emergency state of emergency and shifting

00:19:45.380 funds to pay for the border wall without passing the law yes you think he's going to do it i do do you

00:19:51.340 if i had to guess i'd say yes there's a lot of reporting on it that that's definitely what he's

00:19:55.980 considering um he may also just be threatening it right like he may be saying like look i'm going to do

00:20:01.540 this either way you might as well get your daca and give me the money because i'm going to go do

00:20:06.620 this as a yeah he may give he may say you've got seven days right you might put a window or 30 days

00:20:13.640 whatever it is um well because and then the shutdown thing is getting to those elevated levels too where

00:20:18.440 it's starting to you're already starting to see the reporting about people who who you know the tax

00:20:23.900 refunds they've solved in the short term um but the you've got the food stamps thing that's right

00:20:28.740 right around the corner there's several different programs that will start becoming major news stories

00:20:32.960 if they don't get this fixed by then i wonder who's writing this tonight this really has to be

00:20:38.720 written really really well and his his goal right is to make people understand the seriousness of the

00:20:46.340 border as separately from some political issue right his goal is to say to the person who's in the

00:20:52.760 middle who cares about our security um but isn't a partisan or isn't a huge trump person

00:20:58.580 or whatever to convince them that hey you know you've been hearing all this stuff and they always

00:21:02.500 say that i'm lying about this here are the facts and this really is a serious situation and we may need

00:21:07.280 to make it a national emergency this is the first time that he's done anything from the oval office

00:21:12.800 he has not given a speech behind the resolute desk in the oval office and not an address to the nation

00:21:22.120 correct i don't know i'm pretty sure um i don't look it up will you marissa i'm pretty sure that that

00:21:31.560 is a prime time address prime time this is his first prime time address from behind the resolute desk

00:21:38.080 the resolute desk is generally uh reserved for really important speeches you know milestone kind of

00:21:49.760 speeches to where we're going to war or there's a national emergency uh or there's something really

00:21:57.420 grave that we need to talk about also it has traditionally been used for the farewell address

00:22:03.260 um interesting to see the media struggle yesterday with should we even take this is this something that

00:22:08.560 we should even take uh yes first of all yes second of all if you would have even suggested that under

00:22:13.700 barack obama you would have been a racist for suggesting it unbelievable really unbelievable this

00:22:18.840 is this one is not a show this one's not a show this is an address from the oval office from behind

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00:23:47.020 this is the glenn beck program for any long-time listener of the uh program you know that jeffy

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00:24:33.680 a second of the show we're talking about the president and his um his address tonight from the

00:24:39.440 oval office is the first from behind the resolute desk uh and this is an important one he's going to

00:24:45.600 talk about the national emergency whether he declares a national emergency or not we don't know

00:24:51.980 but this is a legal way for the president to get the wall built it is a highly controversial way to get

00:25:00.680 it built he is going to apparently possibly uh evoke uh the bill that was passed by both houses

00:25:09.680 including signed by barack obama then senator and senator hillary clinton to build a border wall

00:25:16.320 uh in 2006 and he's going to say the pentagon has the money and this is a national emergency

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00:25:41.060 and a bunch of steven crowder steven crowder comes back i think january 17th i think yeah uh which is

00:25:46.600 uh great all brand new steven crowder episodes um all right so we're trying to make a pro and con list

00:25:52.100 and pat uh on the pro i have it's permanent it's a permanent solution it does help with security

00:26:01.120 uh it provides accountability which i think everybody wants somebody wants somebody to stand

00:26:06.180 up and say i'm responsible um but also i would say that it also helps in the drug war for sure

00:26:14.560 i mean that is a national emergency what we have coming across our borders right now our southern

00:26:20.720 border in particular uh with fentanyl and heroin and uh uh and oxycontin that is a national emergency

00:26:29.580 i expect that to be a big part of the pitch tonight too because that's you know that is an escalating

00:26:33.880 issue with opioids and everything else and part of that is related to heroin is coming across the

00:26:38.840 border it's where most of it comes from yeah as far as a pro i don't think it'll happen any other way

00:26:44.600 this is not gonna happen they're not gonna do it the only way to do it that's the only way to do it

00:26:49.080 so i have a whole buttload of stuff on the on the pro list on the con list there's one really there's

00:26:55.300 really only one it's not the right way to do it how what do we do when somebody the next president

00:27:00.220 comes in and and tell me that it's you know uh beto or beto he comes in or uh tamala harris

00:27:10.940 hillary clinton and uh and she comes in and she says climate change is a national emergency

00:27:18.300 they're already saying that without without law backing correct they're already saying it they

00:27:23.100 could also do that regardless of whether he declares an emergency to build the wall it could

00:27:28.260 happen anyway but i i get the point and the point is is this the right way to do it and of course

00:27:34.160 it isn't but it won't get done any other way i think we've seen that it was ordered it was by law

00:27:41.380 in 2006 the fence shall be built and somehow it wasn't well somehow happened with k bailey hutchinson yes

00:27:50.860 yep so she came in and said well a fence where it's appropriate and you can use other technologies

00:27:56.340 and security and other areas so just which i agree with but they never did anything about it right

00:28:02.020 they haven't done any of it they haven't done any of it and only now are they even repairing some of

00:28:07.400 the broken down areas of the fence that's the only thing they've done so far and so that that also goes

00:28:13.960 to the permanency of that that is a that is to me a con because you can build this but then not

00:28:21.120 repair it future presidents cannot repair it and you got nothing yeah you got nothing yeah

00:28:26.240 and it looks like it's changing from a wall to a fence now again which i i take the double fencing

00:28:33.000 if because that's really effective and it's proven to be effective in in the san diego area they built

00:28:38.880 a double and in some parts of the border it's a triple wall and then they have a space between

00:28:44.080 the fences where the border patrol goes up and down patrolling and it's a road right i can drive it

00:28:49.980 back and forth and vehicles yes and it reduced illegal crossings by 95 95 i will tell you you

00:28:59.140 guys didn't go with me when i went to israel the very first time jeffy did and we went and we were

00:29:04.780 on the border of syria we were up on up on our way to lebanon we're on the border of syria and they

00:29:11.140 had a border fence and it was a it was a double chain link razor wire fence but all of the sand

00:29:19.940 on each side in the middle and on each side had been uh raked okay so it was perfectly raked there

00:29:28.420 are no footprints in it and uh i said can we stop i want to take a picture of this and the driver said

00:29:35.040 you don't want to stop here and i said we were out in the middle of absolutely nowhere i mean

00:29:41.120 nowhere there i hadn't seen a house in an hour that we were nowhere and he said you don't want to stop

00:29:47.680 here and i said why is it dangerous and he said no but you're going to be questioned and i said question

00:29:53.120 there's no way we haven't seen a car he said okay he said but do not step on the sand and i said okay

00:30:03.320 so i got out and i took a picture before i could turn around there was a there was a border guard

00:30:10.020 on my tail excuse me asking me what we were doing who were who we were i mean that that border is

00:30:21.760 secure and it's just two fences and they rake that sand to be able to see if there's any footprints on it

00:30:29.080 and you know immediately and they actually patrol it i'm fine with that yeah i'm fine with that they

00:30:37.060 take it seriously the wall to fence you know conversation is meaningless right like what we

00:30:42.700 want is a barrier to stop like i understand that that's what trump said and that's why the media is

00:30:46.720 so focused on it because they want to prove that trump didn't come through with his promise i think the

00:30:51.120 american people though look at that and say what we want is people stopping stop from crossing the 0.98

00:30:56.180 border with some sort of physical reason why trump people and and me want a wall and not a fence

00:31:02.820 is because i don't believe i mean i don't believe that they will actually patrol that fence i don't

00:31:09.460 think they're actually going to patrol it maybe this president will you think the next president will

00:31:14.540 you go with wire cutters and cut it out if they don't if they don't if they don't care but a fence

00:31:20.400 a wall is more difficult right a wall you have to scale yeah especially the one he described uh at

00:31:27.620 one of his campaign stops with the concrete and steel rebar uh 30 or 40 feet high yeah that would

00:31:34.880 be that would be difficult it would be difficult i mean again if you don't patrol it you could take

00:31:39.300 down any wall right i mean they're gonna have to still patrol it at some level but it would be more

00:31:43.540 difficult and that's the that's the issue here is to try to make these things more difficult so where

00:31:47.140 do you stand on this well we do we finish with the cons list i mean you think that's that it

00:31:52.340 uh just just the fact that it's just not the right process of doing it i think so that's what i think

00:31:57.880 yeah because i'm absolutely in favor of a wall of a wall or fence yeah i do think because i mean if

00:32:03.880 you look back at let's say the nuclear option for judges right the nuclear option for judges was

00:32:08.440 initially done uh not for supreme court justice uh justices but just for normal judges to be pushed

00:32:15.600 through and so the democrats did that first the republicans always could have done it when they

00:32:20.860 were in but the democrats did that first and so it was easy for republicans to come in and say look

00:32:25.820 they already did it right they they were used that as a justification it wasn't even a controversial

00:32:30.000 move really when when they did it with gorsuch i mean they changed the entire process of the way we

00:32:35.040 voted on supreme court justices with with gorsuch yeah um and it wasn't really even a story

00:32:40.220 i mean that so i think when you take that off the table and you say well we can use a national

00:32:45.460 emergency for our priorities as far as policy if we can't get them done through laws this is one of

00:32:50.600 the things i did not like about the barack obama daca thing um you know there are a lot of people who

00:32:55.400 think that people who came across the border with their parents when they were say seven years old and

00:33:01.400 are now you know whatever 19 should be able to stay they're dreamers that have that whole conversation

00:33:06.280 then they tried to pass the dream act 900 000 times with some republican support at times

00:33:11.300 and they couldn't get it done so barack obama said well we'll just do it daca we'll just do daca

00:33:16.100 and we'll just get it done and go around the law the same thing is happening here i think there's an

00:33:21.200 argument to be made that donald trump has said correctly that we need to we need this money we

00:33:26.700 need to secure the border like this is a real problem give me the money put it in a law they're not

00:33:31.040 putting it in a law so now he's coming up with a new way of doing it and that is bothersome i don't like it

00:33:35.240 daca was not a national emergency and i think between drugs and uh and illegal immigration

00:33:41.660 when especially when you see who's coming over you have you have people from the middle east

00:33:49.100 coming over our border you also have people from venezuela and uh uh and honduras that do not wish 1.00

00:33:57.000 this country well so it's not like just dreamers are coming across the border you have ms 13 ms 13

00:34:05.180 you can clearly make a um a case against this what'll be interesting is this will go through

00:34:11.180 the courts but if the courts held up daca and then say no to this president i think you're headed

00:34:20.920 for real trouble and the court should not be able to overrule the president on this there's a lot of

00:34:25.240 people saying oh this is unconstitutional it is not unconstitutional it is it is it's a past law

00:34:29.920 he has the right to do it he's using it in a completely new way which is expanding the power

00:34:35.620 initially they passed this with a with a check and balance in which the congress could override

00:34:40.320 his uh you know his situation like if someone comes in and says this is a national emergency

00:34:45.780 congress could say well no it's not we don't believe you that got that got thrown out in the

00:34:50.440 courts so there's no check and balance other than overriding a veto so we're all agreed that we want

00:34:55.820 the fence and we and we think that this is a national emergency uh between drugs ms 13 uh and

00:35:03.400 other things that are going on um but we all agree good heavens please not this way i'm afraid of the

00:35:11.480 ramifications of it however best case scenario here maybe he talks about it he threatens it the democrats

00:35:17.480 get freaked out about it and don't and don't want him to be doing this in the future so maybe they come

00:35:22.820 along to a negotiation i see i don't think that i mean i don't think they will either i think they

00:35:28.120 i think they'll love the fact that you've just expanded the power i think so too i said best

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00:37:22.860 they say that it will last no more than eight minutes he's not making a case he's making an

00:37:28.300 announcement of some sort uh and it's about security and humanitarian projects on the border

00:37:36.880 uh rob in maryland pros and cons hello glenn uh i am a constitutionalist they they always say

00:37:46.920 conservative or liberal you we need to stop doing that and say constitutionalist yes and constitutionally

00:37:53.340 one thing the government out of the few things they're supposed to do is provide security for

00:37:59.180 the country yes um i definitely want a wall i don't want a fence for the reasons you guys already said

00:38:04.500 once the fence is up you can just wire cutters and you're in if it's not monitored um the pros uh it

00:38:11.380 stops any possible terrorist an easy way and they can still get in but at least that way is stopped

00:38:17.360 the drugs which is a societal issue it helps slow that because right now they can just

00:38:23.320 bring a mule train in um third uh it helps us uh economically um we could pay for that wall in a

00:38:32.000 year from all the benefits they give away you know you can have a welfare state and no border

00:38:37.380 um and uh i i do believe that it would also help the security of the people you know that get

00:38:43.900 shot or hit by a drunk driver who shouldn't be here i mean people still get hit by drunk drivers

00:38:48.840 but they aren't they're they're supposed to be here now the con the only con is that yes this is

00:38:56.120 this is not the right way to do it we really should have it done the proper way but they're not doing

00:39:01.740 it the proper way i mean so as a constitutionalist where do you end up i end up with this constitutional

00:39:08.040 daca was not constitutional because this deals with national security okay all right i i think that's a

00:39:15.520 decent place for a constitutionalist to stand i think i think it's true i don't think it's

00:39:20.300 unconstitutional i don't think it's the right way to do this but it's i don't think it's not

00:39:24.560 unconstitutional it's it's a first thing i will say provide for the common defense the national

00:39:29.460 security uh the national emergency act which is based on is a really flawed law that i don't think

00:39:35.840 should exist in its current way however he is using it in a way that is appropriate and legal i don't

00:39:41.520 think there's any question whether it's it's legal per se take your phone calls uh after the top of

00:39:46.660 the hour as well let me go to marie uh in pennsylvania hello marie hello hi thank you for taking my call

00:39:53.740 and best wishes to jeffy um yesterday governor tom wolf of pennsylvania declared a statewide emergency

00:40:01.580 disaster declaration on heroin in pennsylvania to me this proves it's an emergency and trump should use

00:40:09.880 this you cannot solve a problem like this at the end of the problem with states calling disasters

00:40:15.220 but you must solve it at the beginning with a wall to stop it i've lost friends and family due to these

00:40:21.200 drugs and i want them to stop all right marie i i agree with you that drugs uh are a real problem

00:40:30.200 with the border and a border wall uh would go a long way to stopping them i want to get back into the 0.94

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00:41:50.440 started to make a list of the pros and the cons the president tonight is going to give a speech that

00:41:57.000 they say will last no longer than eight minutes so he's not making a case on something i think he's

00:42:02.360 making an announcement um is he going to declare a national emergency or is he going to say i will

00:42:10.600 in 30 days if we don't solve this is he going to just take the reins and say i'm going to build the

00:42:18.180 border wall we made a pros and cons list and i've got lots of pros it's a permanent solution it does add

00:42:25.460 to our security doesn't solve our security but it adds to our security it stops people hopefully like

00:42:31.260 ms13 and others who are coming across our southern border it it actually helps health care because we'll

00:42:39.060 be saving a lot of money you can't have you can't have open borders and a welfare state you have to pick

00:42:46.740 one or the other and also drugs we have a serious problem with drugs and on the other side of the

00:42:55.380 border it helps with humanitarian humanitarian aid how many people the hondurans we know we've heard

00:43:03.140 the interviews with them how many were used by people saying oh no america is just going to open up

00:43:08.740 its doors how many people are harmed by that now i can only come up with one con but it's a big one

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00:44:55.240 okay so the only the only thing that i can think of that is a a con on national emergency is it is not

00:45:13.740 unconstitutional the president has a right to do that we have 22 national emergencies already running

00:45:22.520 they just never go away and there's all sorts of different types of national emergencies as well

00:45:27.940 i mean one of the funny things about this is we had a caller last hour saying well one of the ways he

00:45:32.320 could do this is because of the opioid thing i mean this is a major issue well there is a national

00:45:37.580 health emergency on opioids a different type of national emergency um but until he actually he promised

00:45:45.440 to to declare a national emergency on opioids but it took him with trump a while to do it and in that

00:45:51.700 time the media was constantly complaining that he wasn't starting a national health emergency on

00:45:57.060 opioids they complained about it constantly until he finally did wind up doing it now that the same

00:46:03.180 it's a related matter on opioids and heroin and these sorts of things now that he wants to do a

00:46:08.980 different type of national emergency it's a very controversial thing right so if he's smart he will

00:46:14.020 include opioids tonight he will include uh ms 13 and he will include um the the humanitarian crisis

00:46:25.560 that has been caused here recently by people who wish to do our country no good um also he should

00:46:32.840 include that we will open up uh our our immigration and make it easier for qualified people to come in

00:46:41.920 because i don't think anybody has a problem with with immigrants as long as they're here and they're

00:46:46.220 qualified right we what we don't want is ms 13 and again ms 13 gets this political sort of thing oh

00:46:51.640 that's just donald trump trying to scare people to just put this in perspective uh ms 13 kills 4.3

00:47:00.280 times as many people that die in school shootings in the united states 4.3 times as many people die at the

00:47:07.400 hands of ms 13 then die in school shootings and how much do you hear about ms 13 you don't ever hear

00:47:13.160 about it it's just a nonsensical oh that's just donald trump he's making things up ms 13 what he

00:47:17.640 just letters and numbers he's just throwing them together no it's a that's a very violent gang and

00:47:22.100 they kill a lot of people in the united states it's a real problem a real problem if you think school

00:47:26.360 shootings are a real problem which we all know the left does this is four times the size and the

00:47:32.960 president should include things like that if he's going to make the case now the only downside i can

00:47:38.100 see on this is i don't like the way this is being done i don't i don't want to set this precedent i

00:47:44.140 don't want the next president coming in and saying well i'll tell you a national crisis a national

00:47:50.280 emergency it's global warming and here are all the stats because they will yeah the idea behind a

00:47:57.700 national emergency is to take things that aren't partisan issues where there's not disagree we all

00:48:02.580 know that you know iran right is a big problem and we need to stop their funding right that was the

00:48:07.500 first time it was used during the again during the hostage crisis september 11th right after that we

00:48:12.360 all know we're all on the same page the votes are all you know 100 to 0 on issues related to that

00:48:18.000 this is one where obviously republicans want it to happen democrats don't um and if you tell me the

00:48:23.880 thing that isn't partisan now well because you could say it's usually only in emergency situations

00:48:29.040 but again that's why there's a national emergency part of this right but isn't part of the national

00:48:34.000 emergency look i'm not making a case for this because i don't think this is the right way to do it

00:48:37.640 but i i'm gonna play devil's advocate because there is no other way to do this anymore any other way to

00:48:44.000 do it has been destroyed because we've made everything partisan when you said well we should know well

00:48:50.940 we all did we all knew that in 2006 they all barack obama and hillary clinton signed the wall

00:49:00.780 into law it passed 80 to 19 by the way in the senate okay so it wasn't a partisan issue it just is now

00:49:07.960 yep um climate change should not be a partisan issue but it is a partisan issue it is a partisan issue

00:49:15.020 because at least it's how you deal with it right yes and they will say the same thing this is not

00:49:19.400 supposed to be a partisan issue and we should pass uh it's a national state of emergency on the

00:49:24.420 climate and we can do x y and z they've tried it i mean this is how a lot of times the epa has tried

00:49:29.540 to control emissions and put new standards on which are things that you know i've fought against the

00:49:34.740 entire time because they're i believe those are completely unconstitutional this one would not be

00:49:39.240 it's allowed through the law it would be not only would it not be unconstitutional it would be

00:49:44.120 completely legal as far as i can tell it's just a new way of using this it is an it does seem to be

00:49:49.920 an expanded use of this power which you know i don't want that ever i don't ever want to be on the

00:49:55.160 air telling you that the government is taking is is is getting more power to do something um because

00:50:02.340 they already have enough they already have a lot of power and the reason you know these things are hard

00:50:06.660 to do to pass a border wall is going to be hard to do um and that is sort of built into our system

00:50:14.640 what's really crazy is we went to the moon in the 1960s when we didn't have the technology

00:50:19.200 okay we didn't have the technology and we said we have to do this not because it's easy but because

00:50:25.160 it's hard we don't need any technology we don't need to do anything technology has been around for a

00:50:30.900 you know forever yeah uh look at it's hard to do no hard to do was go to the moon in 1969

00:50:40.400 that was hard to do getting together and putting a fence or a wall up to stop people from coming in

00:50:48.260 across our border that's not hard it's just people unwilling to do it yeah i mean i just you know we all

00:50:57.140 if this was the way that this could have been done we wouldn't have needed to have a conversation

00:51:02.420 about laws for the past two years right i think everyone realized for the past two years including

00:51:07.500 the administration that this was not the way to do this the same way by the way that barack obama

00:51:11.500 had the conversation about daca and they said we can't do this we had to pass a law and then they

00:51:16.140 came up with another way around it this one is a little bit different i think it's better than the

00:51:19.700 daca thing there's no question about it but it it makes me a little uneasy doesn't it let's look at it

00:51:24.060 this way the only reason why we have donald trump the thing that donald trump really connected because

00:51:31.240 remember he wasn't connecting at the beginning until he got onto the border wall when he started

00:51:37.120 on the border wall that was his in his first opening speech that was like 19th on his list yeah it was 0.69

00:51:42.320 not a high priority in that speech people forget that the whole you know mexican rapist thing that

00:51:46.440 he got beat up on so much that was like i want to say it was like two or three percent of his speech

00:51:51.200 it was it was not something he focused on at all so as soon as he started to get onto that that's

00:51:55.740 when he really took off so let me just let me just posit this uh this little thought here that

00:52:02.240 perhaps because the democrats refused to deal with what they said they would do in 2008 and they agreed

00:52:13.020 that we needed a wall but then for some political reason or some other reason that never has been

00:52:19.240 vocalized they decided not to build the wall that's the reason why we have donald trump as president

00:52:27.200 because politicians refused to do exactly not what they said they were going to do but what they wrote

00:52:35.940 a bill and signed on to do they passed a law that said shall be built and they never did it so if

00:52:45.600 you're looking for an ultimate reason why donald trump how could donald trump be our president well

00:52:49.980 there it is yeah it's stuff like that yeah and the republicans and the democrats failed to build a wall

00:52:55.880 that they passed a law it's amazing but i mean trump one thing about trump in these moments is he

00:53:02.800 doesn't like being on defense right so this is a way for him to turn it to being on offense i've got

00:53:07.820 something i can use and i will use it i think there's a good chance that he says tonight

00:53:11.400 you've got two weeks to hammer this out or i'm going to use this so that puts him on the offensive

00:53:19.000 um you know again it makes me uneasy that sort of power but still it's it is an understandable

00:53:24.760 thing that i mean because the basic thing behind it everybody agrees with at least in this audience

00:53:30.180 i think most people on on the conservative side which is this is a real problem people are ignoring

00:53:35.380 it we need this thing built figure out a way to do it and that is a completely logical way to think

00:53:40.580 we just have to make sure we don't cross some barrier we're going to get burned by it correct

00:53:44.380 left to them their own devices the american people would solve this problem oh yeah we would solve it

00:53:50.800 just take all just take all of the politicians uh out of the mix never more than uh 60 seconds away

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00:55:31.280 this is the glenbeck program we go to taylor in indiana hello taylor

00:55:48.740 hey uh i'm with you guys on it's not the right way to do it but you kind of touched on the pro that i

00:55:56.220 was going to mention and that um i think this energizes his base for 2020 i didn't vote for

00:56:01.960 trump i was i voted for edmund mcmullin um kind of like you guys suggested and but i think he's

00:56:06.980 going to use this if he does in fact build the wall he's going to say all right these

00:56:10.840 destructionist democrats didn't allow me to get this done i built this wall and i just think that

00:56:16.540 energizes his base like you guys said people were fed up and that's kind of what got him elected

00:56:20.600 i think that um i think if he doesn't build the wall he's in he's in trouble um because that was

00:56:28.540 the number one thing he promised to do and he had a chance and then he folded on it which was shocking

00:56:34.380 to his base i think uh and i think he knows i've got to build this darn wall and i used to be in that 0.96

00:56:42.280 camp like hey all right now we're in power let's just ram it down their throat but like you said that 0.93

00:56:46.760 pendulum is going to swing the other way and that's why i'm in that con cam which is not the

00:56:50.700 right way to do it because he's not so it's easy to say i agree with it but it's not the right way

00:56:57.860 to do it have you made a decision yet on are you for or against it if he says i'm going to build it

00:57:04.460 anyway i'd be against it i mean you yeah that you have that feel good it's like all right cool

00:57:10.100 it's done but it's the wrong way to do it and i would not be for it the way that he's uh proposing

00:57:16.040 because there's a tough thing here a lot of people that's a great perspective i think um

00:57:22.120 it's one of those things where we were having this conversation okay well it's not going to

00:57:26.840 get done any other way and and we want it done so how do we get it done well in our system a lot of

00:57:33.820 times there's a lot of stuff you want to do that you don't get done right like that's just part of

00:57:38.040 what the founders designed i mean there's a lot of stuff that i would love to get done like

00:57:42.080 getting this income tax to zero right i but i can't do it unfortunately uh right now i think

00:57:49.240 that is a you know you have to continue to make your case and you have to continue to to prove to

00:57:54.700 people that this really is the issue that it is and you've seen you know you might say like right now

00:57:58.680 and it's understandable there's no way this is ever going to get done you know the democrats oppose it

00:58:02.880 and blah blah blah but again as you point out this actually was passed this was like this is this

00:58:08.200 isn't a this isn't something that you can never pass it actually was passed fairly recently in 2010

00:58:13.100 democrats were pulled and it was a 50 50 issue among democrats whether you could do it and it was

00:58:17.080 obviously favored among independents and republicans there's no reason this debate can't swing back to

00:58:22.360 the sensible side um but you know right now it's become unfortunately an issue of whether you like

00:58:28.380 donald trump or not is the question not whether this is an actual issue and that is i think the fault of

00:58:33.960 the media and i think it's the fault of of turning everything into a partisan issue even when it's

00:58:38.620 blatantly obvious it would be helpful for our security but there's no reason we can't at some

00:58:43.120 point get back to some sensible discussion on this right we've already been there so i um i started

00:58:48.200 teaching the kids the constitution um over the holiday that was my christmas present to them wow and uh

00:58:55.780 they loved it um they've all turned atheists yes we've turned uh uh i spent about an hour every

00:59:03.000 every night for a week of the holiday with the whole family and we went over the declaration of

00:59:09.100 independence and the constitution and i'm struck by the preamble of the constitution the only the

00:59:16.720 only capitalized words in the constitution they're huge they jump off the page we the people and we the

00:59:24.860 people this was a this was a different idea no constitution no government was formed by the people it

00:59:30.700 was formed by the elites but this is the people we the people of the united states in order to form a

00:59:38.280 more perfect nation not a perfect nation a more perfect nation meaning we're never going to be

00:59:44.820 perfect can we stop expecting that a more perfect union establish justice ensure domestic tranquility

00:59:54.500 and provide for the common defense now let's just take those apart has this government established

01:00:02.060 justice do you feel that we that justice is being served right now i think that is the one

01:00:09.880 where they're the closest we are we have made some mistakes we're trying to correct those mistakes

01:00:17.720 meaning illegal justice yes if you were commit a crime and you have a chance to prove your case

01:00:22.400 obviously it's not perfect but right with we the people it's not perfect but it's getting better i think

01:00:28.820 with they the government they're destroying justice there is no such thing as justice right

01:00:36.640 you look at established justice ensure domestic tranquility

01:00:42.200 uh i don't that one's all solved i think uh everyone's tranquil right they're doing the opposite

01:00:50.400 the the the most irritant the biggest irritant in our society is government it's the parties it's

01:01:00.060 the politicians that are are coaxing us into bonfires don't you think they are so unconstitutional

01:01:10.480 right now they're not helping us promote domestic tranquility they're not promoting that they're

01:01:17.920 promoting the opposite provide for the common defense pretty good pretty good except that's where

01:01:25.760 this one falls in when it comes to solving the problem that we had september 11th they haven't

01:01:31.560 solved that the number one problem is overstayed visas it's still the number one problem it's not the

01:01:37.660 border it's overstayed visas promote the general welfare notice it says provide common defense

01:01:47.880 and promote the general welfare that's interesting it doesn't guarantee it no it guarantees defense

01:01:58.340 guarantees defense have to provide defense it has to promote general welfare so in other words it has

01:02:07.020 it has to do things like encourage science encourage business encourage entrepreneurship uh it needs to

01:02:15.580 it needs to promote the things that would be good for society uh well hang on just a second um

01:02:25.260 they're supposed to ensure domestic in tranquility they're not ensuring that they're supposed to ensure that

01:02:33.020 they're supposed to promote the general defense they are doing a pretty good job on that and they're supposed to promote general welfare the entire thing is upside down the entire thing is upside down to secure the blessings of liberty i don't think anybody in washington even looks at liberty as a blessing anymore

01:03:01.020 they think i think i think many of them think it's a curse there are too many people out there doing things that we don't even know about

01:03:08.080 follow the constitution follow the constitution and it will not lead you astray

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01:04:28.000 this is the glenbeck program there's a lot to talk about um today and we're going to continue to take your phone calls the pro and con list

01:04:42.000 on national emergency with the border um i think the consensus so far is i want the border wall don't like the way this is being done or possibly being done

01:04:52.400 we'll know tonight as the president addresses the nation at 9 p.m supposed to be an eight minute speech no longer according to the white house

01:04:59.820 um and uh and we'll continue to talk about that here in just a second i i i also because it's a new year

01:05:07.500 i really want to focus on the big issues and i was overwhelmed

01:05:12.340 during the holiday with the number of people that wrote in and said how close they were to giving up

01:05:24.160 how they had wrestled with depression how they had been wrestling with alcoholism and how they had

01:05:33.120 a new commitment to continue another day

01:05:39.160 and sometimes we forget about how alone people can feel

01:05:45.480 and it's because we don't talk about these things because we kind of bury them and they are

01:05:51.060 they are kind of first principles they're they're the things that we should be talking about with each

01:05:55.880 other we should be looking out for one another but sometimes these things make us uncomfortable and

01:06:02.120 you don't know what to say i know this is true for me in many cases with

01:06:07.560 um veterans because i have i hold them in such high regard

01:06:15.140 i don't necessarily i just don't necessarily know

01:06:23.300 what i would do in their situation

01:06:26.720 and it causes me sometimes

01:06:31.300 to not say anything

01:06:34.340 one of the biggest regrets and regrets in my life i am good friends

01:06:38.740 uh with chris kyle's wife but i was not friends with chris because

01:06:44.260 i stood at a charity fundraiser shoulder to shoulder with him

01:06:48.360 and i only shook his hand and thanked him for his service

01:06:51.480 i didn't even talk to him because i was so intimidated

01:06:54.860 our soldiers are going through real tough times but it's those who

01:07:03.820 those who refuse to give up that make the difference

01:07:06.960 our partners at story core

01:07:08.800 uh have a have a great story to tell

01:07:12.280 between a marine corporal zach skiles

01:07:15.440 he was deployed um to iraq in 2003

01:07:19.420 he was there at the beginning of the invasion

01:07:23.080 while serving on the front lines he lost

01:07:25.380 five friends within a two-week period

01:07:28.160 and when he came home he had a hard time

01:07:31.140 adjusting he had a hard time holding down a job

01:07:34.000 he found himself homeless

01:07:35.420 so story core sat down with him and his father

01:07:39.360 scott

01:07:40.240 to talk about the difficulties that he faced during the war

01:07:43.840 and how he got back on his feet

01:07:46.160 this is an amazing story

01:07:47.940 listen

01:07:48.580 i remember saying to you

01:07:50.240 every gift that i've been given

01:07:53.100 i don't have a better one than to be your dad

01:07:55.360 and i remember you smiling saying i love you too dad

01:07:59.080 and then you got out of the car and went to war

01:08:01.640 so what was life like after you came home

01:08:05.380 i was pretty sure someone was going to kick down my door

01:08:08.320 and i was scared to go to sleep

01:08:12.000 i couldn't sustain employment

01:08:16.560 i couldn't pay rent and pay for groceries

01:08:20.060 it all just kind of fell apart

01:08:23.500 and then i was homeless

01:08:26.760 the crazy thing was that i didn't think that there was anything super wrong

01:08:31.740 you know the night time i stayed on coastal trails and hiking trails

01:08:36.840 and in the daytime i could just pass out at a park

01:08:40.520 there was a time period where i didn't know where you were

01:08:44.020 and it is difficult to watch anyone let go of hope

01:08:49.280 but when it's your son

01:08:52.000 it's excruciating

01:08:54.100 i remember great relief that you decided to go into inpatient treatment

01:08:59.980 and i remember one night you getting out of the car

01:09:03.640 to walk back into the treatment building

01:09:06.420 it was dark and your head was kind of down

01:09:09.500 and for a moment i could feel the weight you were carrying

01:09:15.300 as i watched you walk into that building

01:09:18.600 i uttered these two words that i don't know if they were some kind of prayer or not

01:09:22.540 but they just came out

01:09:23.620 my son

01:09:25.060 and i was absolutely overcome

01:09:29.900 with grief

01:09:31.380 and love

01:09:32.880 and the beginning of hope

01:09:34.740 what is life like for you now

01:09:38.540 it's pretty cool

01:09:40.140 you graduated undergrad

01:09:42.200 yes

01:09:43.160 i heard summa cum laude

01:09:44.900 i'm just asking

01:09:47.440 that's what i heard

01:09:48.360 yeah

01:09:49.680 i remember my dad saying this to me

01:09:53.180 and i feel it is so true between you and i

01:09:55.980 it is your life

01:09:58.440 so you have the last word

01:10:00.240 but then as your dad

01:10:02.040 that gives me the second to the last word

01:10:04.180 and the second to the last word is

01:10:07.200 i believe in you

01:10:08.520 and i'm on your side

01:10:10.960 there's a powerful thing i i learned from 0.93

01:10:20.540 somebody who had been kept as a sex slave

01:10:23.840 in mexico 0.66

01:10:24.920 she had literally she had chain scars around her neck

01:10:29.260 scars all over her back where she had been beaten and burned

01:10:33.220 and chained for a couple of years

01:10:36.920 i was recording something with her

01:10:40.980 and i said

01:10:41.780 i want you to say

01:10:45.140 hi my name is so and so

01:10:47.020 and i

01:10:47.620 i used to be a slave

01:10:49.320 and she said no i won't say that

01:10:51.180 and i said

01:10:53.440 okay why

01:10:55.300 and she said because

01:10:56.040 i never considered myself a slave

01:10:58.760 they may have chained me

01:11:00.800 but i never considered myself a slave

01:11:03.220 our lives are a blank piece of paper

01:11:08.620 and we are the only authors of it

01:11:11.800 if someone else is authoring it

01:11:13.720 or if you don't like the way the story is going

01:11:16.460 open a new page

01:11:18.780 and start again 0.54

01:11:20.040 it sounds ridiculous 0.70

01:11:22.500 because it's too easy 0.67

01:11:24.100 but it's true

01:11:25.860 dave is a from uh story core is uh with us now

01:11:30.080 dave can you give me an update

01:11:31.920 on on uh on zach

01:11:34.400 glenn happy new year

01:11:36.880 it's great to talk to you

01:11:38.020 um

01:11:38.860 well the

01:11:39.980 zach is uh is getting his phd

01:11:43.060 now in psychology

01:11:44.500 and i will say you know this was the first time

01:11:47.020 as as you know a story core interview is two people who care about one another

01:11:51.000 uh coming to have a conversation

01:11:53.160 and we've had

01:11:53.840 a dozen big special initiatives through the years

01:11:56.700 and this one is part of the military voices initiative

01:11:59.380 focusing focusing on the voices of post 9-11 uh vets and their and their families

01:12:04.760 the first time they ever had this conversation

01:12:07.520 first time they ever talked about what what happened uh in in uh to zach in iraq

01:12:12.720 and i i met so i i don't get a chance to meet a lot of the participants uh in in story core

01:12:18.620 we've had half a million people who participate but

01:12:21.280 when i'm uh giving a talk sometimes people

01:12:24.120 uh from stories will come into the um

01:12:27.060 into the uh come to the talk

01:12:29.480 and zach's dad scott came to a talk a little while ago

01:12:32.420 and uh this this goes back a little bit to what you were saying about the

01:12:37.100 the woman um who you had interviewed 0.97

01:12:39.380 uh who was a sex slave um 0.97

01:12:41.640 and and it reminded me of that mandela quote where he said 0.98

01:12:44.580 uh nelson mandela they can chain my body but they can't they can't chain my soul

01:12:48.560 but um uh zach's uh dad uh scott

01:12:52.660 after i played a story handed me a just a very brief quote

01:12:56.620 which stuck with me and it just said uh here is the world

01:13:00.720 beautiful and terrible things will happen don't be afraid

01:13:03.940 so how can people get involved in your new initiative one small step

01:13:10.500 um this is trying to bring people together uh that

01:13:14.480 maybe don't see the world politically the same way but you're preserving the

01:13:18.460 voices of people who um are very very different from one

01:13:22.760 another but can find common ground how do people get

01:13:26.460 involved in that so we have you can come to our website

01:13:30.400 it's story core s-t-o-r-y-c-o-r-p-s dot org

01:13:34.080 backslash one small step which is one word

01:13:37.760 and you described exactly what we're trying to do we've had half a million

01:13:41.440 people who know and love each other

01:13:42.900 like zach and scott come to story core and now

01:13:45.640 we're working to put people on the opposite sides of the political divide

01:13:49.120 together just to not to talk about politics just to

01:13:52.480 remember that um someone you disagree with

01:13:55.400 is also a human being have you started it yet

01:13:59.560 i mean have you actually started to record these yet

01:14:02.220 oh yes we have um and it's you know it's it's it's a

01:14:06.120 it's kind of addictive it's a beautiful thing to to see and and

01:14:09.620 none of it will surprise you um you know it it brings out kind of the

01:14:14.280 opposite impulses of social media when you do a story core interview

01:14:17.900 uh each of those interviews go is goes to the library of congress so your

01:14:21.940 great great great great great grandkids can

01:14:24.360 hear the voice of your grandmother or your friend whoever you're talking to your

01:14:28.260 voice and unlike social media which is so disposable

01:14:31.380 you know story core is the ultimate kind of long game right so when you come to a

01:14:35.500 story core booth and you're talking to someone across the political divides

01:14:38.980 you know that your great great great grandkids are going to listen to this

01:14:41.900 someday so you really are your kind of best

01:14:44.180 highest self yeah um so it's it's just a it's a

01:14:47.700 beautiful thing to see and and you know i think that it's it's enough

01:14:51.240 already right in the country with what's going on

01:14:55.140 and it's it's it's it's just an existential crisis

01:14:58.480 it's dangerous and we've forgotten that we belong to one another

01:15:01.740 i can't wait to hear some of those uh voices that you're collecting if you

01:15:05.320 want to be a part of this go to story core

01:15:07.420 c-o-r-p-s story core dot org slash one small step

01:15:12.460 uh and that is again one uh one word dave thank you so much

01:15:15.900 we'll talk to you again it's great to talk to you talk to you soon

01:15:18.100 you bet bye-bye

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01:17:13.680 it's interesting a couple of things just a quick note on the um remember the russian lawyer the

01:17:24.500 woman uh who had worked for the kgb she was in the trump tower in 2016 uh and uh you know at

01:17:33.780 first they said no she's not a russian you know spy and then you find out later oh yeah actually

01:17:38.580 she is she's just been charged but there's an important word that the media is leading out

01:17:44.560 charged in an unrelated matter yeah unrelated case out of new york natalia vessel in this

01:17:52.520 best of the kaya is that it i can never get it yeah sure it is sure whatever it is there's a bunch

01:17:57.160 of syllables in case um and that that word uh she was charged uh in a unrelated matter having nothing

01:18:02.620 to do with the meeting whatsoever however msnbc is promoting it as lawyer who met with donald trump

01:18:07.020 you're charged in obstruction of justice case yeah well yeah but yeah but not this not this nothing

01:18:13.260 to do not the one we've all been talking about right it's it's incredible the the spin on things

01:18:18.920 um the other thing that i want to point out here quickly is that nancy pelosi and chuck schumer

01:18:25.060 are going to be delivering the rebuttal to the president now the president's going to speak for

01:18:31.980 eight minutes is the president's birthday like why are they doing that is it just they're just

01:18:35.780 giving him gifts i don't understand why do you why would you want to put nancy pelosi and chuck

01:18:39.860 schumer in front of the country may i give you a may give you a reason sure because they know that the

01:18:47.340 the body politic of the democratic party the real fervent ones are angry and so they want

01:18:56.140 angry people but nancy pelosi and chuck schumer are part of the old guard so they're leaving

01:19:03.960 so they can appear to be angry they don't want the new guard to appear angry

01:19:09.720 okay maybe i mean because i mean i can't i i mean i struggled trying to figure out why you would do

01:19:17.220 that because that seems like such poor strategy and why wouldn't you put a new face in there why

01:19:22.260 wouldn't you put a potential 2020 candidate why wouldn't you put a hispanic in that role 0.89

01:19:27.320 so why would you go with chuck schumer and nancy pelosi right and maybe it's because they realize

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01:19:37.460 and they want to be real angry they want to they want to charge this as racism etc etc so let the old 0.54

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01:19:49.240 pelosi's policies but she constantly looks insane let's be honest about it her eyes are five times 1.00

01:19:54.760 larger than the average person's they're super bright all the time she uh has uh she clearly

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01:20:06.960 bizarrely fake she is just a strange she's like a delivery system she's like a bad avatar yeah 0.74

01:20:13.440 why not put on someone who maybe you're not if i can understand that that's a somewhat logical

01:20:18.260 idea right you want to if they are self-aware enough which is difficult for me to believe it

01:20:22.420 maybe they are self-aware enough to say look we don't want to be we don't want to put one of our

01:20:27.820 new fresh faces for 2020 in this environment because it's a bad environment people will associate them

01:20:32.440 with negativity let's just go out there and take the hit my guess is more than that they just want

01:20:36.460 to be on tv as the people who want to oppose you know that's that's what i really believe yeah i really

01:20:41.700 believe these two egos are in it that's why there's two people you know because chuck was like i should do it

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01:22:26.100 i remember when i was a kid we were at a um a local parade and a veteran uh he was dressed up in

01:22:37.560 the vfw outfit with a little hat and and uh he dropped dead of a heart attack right in front of me

01:22:44.200 and i must have been about eight and i'll never ever forget it it's different when when you're young

01:22:53.620 and people have a heart attack it's something entirely different when it is your friend

01:23:02.480 jeff fisher who has been with this show for almost 20 years um he almost dropped dead of a heart attack

01:23:12.600 uh over the holiday uh he had a massive heart attack about 80 or 90 percent of the people who have a

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01:25:37.620 so it's early in the morning up at the ranch and my whole family and my grandkids and everybody's

01:25:57.000 around and uh uh i walk out into the main room and i said everybody we have to say a prayer

01:26:07.560 uh and everybody on your knees and my family just looked at me and uh i said jeffy has just had a

01:26:17.640 heart attack and it's a big one and by the end of the prayer most of us were in tears um because we just

01:26:25.780 love him dearly and uh we were greatly concerned about you jeffy thank you the support the overwhelming

01:26:36.340 support between co-workers and uh listeners and viewers of this network was unbelievable and uh you

01:26:45.000 know proof that uh you know well wishes and thoughts and prayers work yeah so tell me what it was like

01:26:50.820 that morning you got up in the morning and amber told me you were sitting on the edge of the bed oh

01:26:55.560 yeah uh sitting on the edge of the bed and the pain in my chest was not going away um back up a couple

01:27:02.040 days yeah how many days of pain did you ignore before you were sitting on the bed and i'm wondering

01:27:07.780 whether you should go to the hospital a couple that i remember so for two days you were having heart

01:27:12.460 well a little bit i mean it went away so it's just i know that you told oh yeah it's going away okay

01:27:19.820 you're fine and then you just move on you don't have just uh you're fine uh-huh you convince yourself

01:27:25.580 that it's not is it a pain like you've ever felt before not really i mean you really honestly looking 0.70

01:27:32.480 back on it it was dumb not to do something uh dumb not to go see somebody about it because uh

01:27:38.460 you realize that that's not right you know that's just not that's not the pain of hurting yourself 0.72

01:27:44.860 while you sleep it's not the pain of indigestion or heartburn right and so the morning of the um

01:27:52.540 the pain that would not stop uh it just doesn't stop there's no way you just i mean it it starts in

01:27:59.520 your chest and it stays there and continues down your arms yeah i didn't have so much of that it was

01:28:03.860 more just uh complete pressure on my chest um non-stop pain all over you know the entire chest

01:28:11.360 so you know you feel nauseous and like you're gonna throw up and that's some profuse sweating

01:28:18.340 i understand absolutely big time sweating more than usual right yeah that was was i'm surprised

01:28:24.300 your family didn't drown if it was more than usual i'm surprised that the lifeguard wasn't called out

01:28:30.460 no the shirt was still i believe the shirt was still sopped uh after a couple days there's no

01:28:34.220 so um uh you told amber not to call i mean the first time yeah don't don't worry about it i'll be

01:28:43.680 fine i'll just see if it goes away and then the last um the last no was more of a no yes call

01:28:52.900 yeah you know it was no oh wow so no means yes to you okay we're learning an awful lot i've believed in

01:28:58.700 that forever i think you know that so uh so she said that your pulse had gotten down to

01:29:06.280 i think 45 whatever i mean it was down to nothing yeah i mean it was really bad and she said it

01:29:11.720 stopped a few times i believe that i believe that and in transit uh you know once they uh you know

01:29:17.960 once we called 9-1-1 and and the um you know rescue fire rescue and the ambulance people were all

01:29:23.460 there within i don't know five minutes maybe i don't know how long it took them to get there i

01:29:28.440 know that we live in some strange area that it took three transfers on on 9-1-1 to get to the

01:29:33.780 right 9-1-1 for my wife so she was freaking out and i know that it probably was pretty fast

01:29:38.980 yeah but it just seems right you know when you call 9-1-1 it's like you want something now

01:29:44.380 and oh hold on i'm gonna transfer you hold i'm gonna transfer you please hold she's screaming at 1.00

01:29:50.520 the phone but they you know relatively fast and then uh in transit uh from my home to the to the

01:29:57.400 hospital i apparently went off the deep end farther um close to the end and i once we got to the

01:30:05.720 hospital you remember it i remember leaving the neighborhood i remember looking i remember looking

01:30:09.940 out the window saying oh this is the way they're leaving the neighborhood and then i remember going

01:30:14.580 into the hospital i remember them banging on the door of the er because the er door wouldn't open

01:30:19.960 i remember that i remember that with the fire rescue going hey to be fair though a lot of businesses have

01:30:26.700 rules to not open the door for you yeah so that's just jeff fisher i believe there's a restraining order

01:30:32.000 here this is very possible right and so you didn't go into the normal er situation right i did not we

01:30:37.640 went straight into surgery right straight into the cath lab for uh heart surgery we're straight i mean

01:30:42.680 i didn't to be honest um but i haven't seen paperwork or a bill or nothing oh it's not coming

01:30:50.580 don't worry everything's gonna be fine i mean no it's coming oh it's coming i know there's gonna end

01:30:54.860 up at the front door you know and probably giant bags of papers the first thing when i heard that was

01:30:59.300 the first thing we called hr to make sure that you did not have any problem with paperwork i can't

01:31:06.280 imagine you never stand there with paperwork so but it's coming okay that's fine i believe that

01:31:11.280 but i'm just saying it was amazing yeah it was uh i mean there was nothing you know i mean it would

01:31:15.080 straight in and right to the uh right to the surgery and uh they had uh one one on the left side was

01:31:23.500 100 blocked that's the widow maker uh as they call it and apparently there's a reason they call that

01:31:29.900 the widow maker because when it gets 100 blocked you die um and if it's not attended to fast enough

01:31:35.720 right i mean if you don't get to it in time uh if if someone you know believes that no means no

01:31:42.220 in your world and doesn't call 9-1-1 uh you're dead right i mean that's as simple as that they

01:31:47.740 got there in time to fix it your life flashed in front of your eyes not really did you know i was

01:31:52.360 that's what's so funny i was telling i remember pat reminded me this morning when he when he came to

01:31:57.220 the hospital is that um i don't remember ever thinking this was it it didn't flash between

01:32:03.840 i don't remember i i didn't think i didn't ever think oh this is it i'm gonna die i never thought

01:32:09.040 that is that just your general i wonder if that's why you are alive i wonder if that whatever it is

01:32:16.560 in you that made you not think that is what helped you carry on it's very possible i mean i'd never

01:32:23.720 thought that i mean i obviously you know i mean it's scary and you're having a heart attack and

01:32:27.720 i'm you know kind of freaking out and going through whatever you go through when you have

01:32:31.120 the heart attack and the chest is hurting and i just want it to stop and i want it to be fixed

01:32:35.100 but i never thought oh this is it i'm never gonna see anybody again so let's get this over with

01:32:39.960 one of the things you we talked uh at your place uh the past weekend you mentioned which i

01:32:46.720 thought was really interesting was it's kind of like they brought you in and they did their job

01:32:51.540 and cleared out the problems and then you're kind of like they kind of reset it you're you're kind of

01:32:56.800 like if they had just known let's say two weeks earlier that you had this blockage you would still

01:33:01.060 had the surgery but you wouldn't have had the heart attack um and you would be back i mean you were

01:33:05.780 this is remember this happened what 10 days ago 12 two weeks ago something like that and here you are

01:33:10.760 you're back at work we're we're we're from the generation we're probably the last generation where

01:33:15.940 something like this you don't come back knock you out you're done you're done you would have had

01:33:21.700 double bypass surgery yeah double double bypass surgery was like that was crazy yeah that's last

01:33:28.380 resort stuff now i mean i don't even you know i don't think they do it do they i think they do i

01:33:33.320 think they break your chest open once in a while if you need it in for particular cases what a new one

01:33:38.220 but yes yeah i guess so yeah if they are if they're going to put in uh like that i had a stent

01:33:43.360 put in uh the one valve and the other valve they cleaned out and i learned yesterday that they left

01:33:49.620 a couple of valves on the other side of my heart that were like 30 or 40 percent block they're going

01:33:54.280 to leave those because they'll look they'll clean themselves out now you'll be fine oh they'll clean

01:33:58.680 themselves out themselves out now with the new medication they put little scrubbing bubbles in there yes

01:34:02.480 they did that's the medication i have now is scrubbing bubbles and it's just doing its work right

01:34:08.060 right i mean it's apparently you know so they have me on some kind of i mean blood thinner i can't a

01:34:12.240 mosquito bites me i'm dead you know don't cut yourself don't cut yourself um but uh yeah that's

01:34:19.160 that's it they said that that's i don't that'll clean it out now that we've got the other sides

01:34:22.600 working good you could okay all right so now how far medicine is i mean it's amazing it's amazing i

01:34:28.660 mean ray kurzweil said glenn just stay alive until 2030 then you'll never die i mean that's i don't know if i

01:34:37.500 want that either i don't want that either but i mean that's that's i mean that's how far medicine

01:34:42.760 is going to go uh and we're just at this steep steep curve uh we'll come back and talk about

01:34:49.360 changes now and changes that our wives are now yelling at us about because of you uh we get to

01:34:58.180 that here in just a second

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01:36:47.760 so we were up in the mountains until uh sunday and uh this happened what day

01:37:04.280 i don't know the 28th what is that a thursday or friday something like that

01:37:09.220 um and uh had to drive down we just got a text message we can get text messages but i can't make

01:37:15.220 any phone calls up in the mountains so i had to drive 20 minutes freaking out um and uh i called amber

01:37:23.760 right away and then i called uh pat and stew and pat ended or stew ended the conversation with

01:37:31.460 basically it's different when someone who's like a peer a friend this happens to it it changes the

01:37:39.580 way you think about the life i don't know how much longer we can do this to our bodies right that's

01:37:45.160 exactly what he said we can't do this to our bodies anymore we're not young and very disappointed i'd

01:37:49.700 just like to apologize yeah yeah i'd like to apologize to you thank you not to stew but i'll

01:37:55.640 apologize no no no and and actually jeffy it's good i've got to lose 50 pounds um what did the

01:38:01.360 doctor say to you they are uh you know they obviously you know they lose weight and eat right

01:38:07.180 and get get you know exercise and get right and get your heart stronger we're all you know we're in

01:38:12.060 the way you're saying we're in the right place like we're in the right place you're not really

01:38:16.200 shot across the bow is the warning it's all good right we could do something about it but they 0.78

01:38:20.760 really were most concerned about there was another you know thing that i involved myself in over the

01:38:28.340 years that you're not narrowing it down when it comes to you they were most concerned with the

01:38:33.960 smoking and that's a habit you picked back up right yeah i mean i would kick that out yeah i know i know

01:38:40.160 nobody smokes around me i didn't know you had started smoking again and it's just and so that's what

01:38:47.560 they're most concerned with is that the smoking stop the smoking 100 you can put a patch on you

01:38:52.720 can chew don't smoke don't vape don't do none of it no smoking so you're done with the smoking have

01:38:58.380 you actually stopped yeah no vaping too vaping is supposedly made a point of that they made a point

01:39:03.400 of that i know stew and i talked about this uh the other day about the vaping because i don't know

01:39:07.640 that they know anything yeah for sure i don't know that there's any actual deep studies that prove

01:39:13.060 that i think the science on and honestly is pretty favorable towards vaping as far as a

01:39:17.060 replacement i mean it's much lower on the risk uh sort of scale but again that doesn't mean a

01:39:22.340 person who just had a heart attack should take it up i think if you could stop it's better i mean i

01:39:26.680 think that's where they're at right yeah a lot of these companies talk about that in that like this

01:39:29.840 is a way to stop it's not necessarily something it's certainly not something you should just start

01:39:33.000 from from scratch like if you're not smoking don't start vaping but if you are smoking vaping is

01:39:37.860 probably better though for you coming out of a massive heart attack don't vape right zero smoking of any

01:39:44.000 zero zero smoking of any you should not even go to los angeles so that right that's pretty much it

01:39:49.800 yeah uh which you know kills the rave parties that i've been going to oh i know that's only

01:39:54.820 so nothing about the cocaine and the heroin they didn't get they they did talk a little bit about

01:39:59.260 supplements right at one point yesterday with the heart documents the heart doc did point out a few

01:40:03.860 things about some of the supplements but uh that's about it what are the supplements just i mean

01:40:10.860 vitamins glenn vitamins are supplements vitamins so he's taking some shady products like made in

01:40:16.840 mongolia are you yeah you're taking like rhino horn no those are illegal yeah so did they i mean you

01:40:25.760 know we've occasionally mentioned on this program before um uh your weight you mentioned that yeah i

01:40:33.220 think once or twice if people if long time listeners may remember this now we have we have this show

01:40:37.400 yeah on this show huh did they say to you like hey now your wife notoriously i know likes fat men 1.00

01:40:45.500 which or like at the christmas wine at the christmas party do you know what she said

01:40:50.060 you know what she said no she came up to me and she said you are looking great i was immediately like

01:40:57.940 i have got to lose weight okay wow yeah that's the moment you were looking great she didn't really

01:41:05.860 mean yeah she did not really mean yeah so uh i thought wow i am as big as a house i've got to

01:41:14.160 stop so but she likes her men plump and she does look and she's a you know she's a fan of starting to 1.00

01:41:20.420 eat right and and do things right now uh you know health wise but she is also a notoriously good cook 1.00

01:41:27.700 of all the things you should not have i know so is that stopping are you going to make a change in

01:41:32.880 this realm i already have stew oh my gosh look at that he is gonna die he'd rather die than stop

01:41:39.300 eating twinkies that's what we're seeing i'm making i'm i'm going to lose 50 pounds this year

01:41:44.900 you're going to lose 50 pounds i'm going to lose 50 pounds good i mean that's it's important to join

01:41:50.280 me oh glenn are we out of time wow of course i'm gonna i'll lose it it's easy 50 pounds i can do 50

01:41:57.900 pounds how much weight should you how much how much you because you were you were really you were

01:42:03.980 really svelte for a while yeah you lost what over 100 pounds over 100 pounds yeah and then i gained

01:42:08.540 about 75 80 back so after you gained how much see you know once in a while there's fat jokes

01:42:17.140 just fly around right but i mean 70 pounds from where you were i don't think so maybe a little

01:42:25.660 bit more than that okay oh no no really yeah a lot of water weight you're held on to well i'm hollow

01:42:33.440 inside yeah so do you have a plan do you have a goal in mind of what you want to do is it they

01:42:40.980 actually right now the the docs were more concerned with let's get the heart healthy and let's you know

01:42:45.380 start exercising and start getting that back and everything else will follow and the smoking no

01:42:50.640 smoke no yeah that's what you do for exercise that's 100 they're they put me in uh some place i have

01:42:56.300 to go to now some heart rehab place so whatever they have to go with what they say i know i just

01:43:01.680 started using a rower a rower i used to love those yeah frank underwood i have to yeah i have the one

01:43:08.420 frank underwood oh really those are great um and uh uh started using it it will wipe you out

01:43:16.340 and if you do five minutes a day even but you do five minutes a day twice a day do they recommend

01:43:23.180 more than just five minutes uh no actually it's like 10 minutes they say 10 minutes a day and it

01:43:28.140 is a full body workout interesting yeah i'm up to four and then i just want to kill myself

01:43:35.000 i know i don't have the strength of the energy to be able to reach for a knife or anything deadly

01:43:40.980 all right jeff fisher thank you so much god bless you i love you too back in just a minute not me

01:43:48.860 okay thanks jerry

01:43:49.840 you're listening to glenn beck american financing corporation nmls 182334 www.nmlsconsumeraccess.org

01:44:04.480 man if he if he would have died can you imagine how tragic that would have been to hear that

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01:45:07.460 so we're talking to uh jeff fisher who uh had a heart attack um over the holiday and i i we have

01:45:19.360 a friend who went in for a full body scan um and you know got one of those things where you they

01:45:26.040 just they check you you know every which way uh scan came back said that he had four places of skin

01:45:33.700 cancer and had some heart blockage like 70 heart blockage um it was right before christmas he decided

01:45:41.500 to uh go to uh somebody about the skin cancer and he would after the holidays do something about the

01:45:49.280 heart and he died last week um i mean the heart is just you know nothing happens if you don't have the

01:45:56.260 don't have the heart we were surprised to find that jeffy does have one um as it stopped working

01:46:03.240 there were several people that commented on that uh even throughout the uh overwhelming response of

01:46:08.100 uh well wishes and prayers many people were surprised that i actually had one yeah i caught

01:46:12.520 the joke and the heart wasn't black either it was actually well i don't know i just remember the the

01:46:16.480 one that the doc showed me when i was laying there when he said he showed me a picture of the of the

01:46:21.560 heart pre-surgery and there was you know this big blockage black blob up there that he showed me and i i

01:46:27.820 can't find where that picture is now was it a cheesesteak it very well could have been yeah

01:46:32.740 very well could have been i'll say though i i think i'm a huge believer in this being the future of

01:46:38.000 medicine you know what princeton longevity center does and others where they'll do these full day

01:46:43.420 physicals on you and you know the biggest thing with jeffy is like if if you had done this scan

01:46:49.120 a full body scan they do it for all the cancers they do it for the 3d picture of your heart with all

01:46:53.820 the blockages they know where everything is it's all the tests that happen to you after you get a

01:46:57.940 heart attack they do before you get it so then they can see that it might be coming and really the only

01:47:03.900 barrier here at this point is cost it's you know it's it's it's hard to afford for a lot of people

01:47:09.240 but at some point we're not far away from this being a regular part of everyone's lives where they

01:47:13.920 can scan for this stuff and catch it way before you get to 100 it's so much more cost effective

01:47:18.700 to do it before oh my god i mean as soon as insurance companies are like you know what

01:47:23.460 it makes more sense for us to do this with everybody prior to than it does you know after

01:47:30.760 because they're going to be in uh in you know intensive care for what were you in day and half

01:47:35.500 a couple days yeah a couple days yeah uh you know it's it's a lot less expensive and the cost will

01:47:41.140 come down once it becomes more and more common it really is it's one of those things because heart

01:47:45.140 disease still is you know the you know there's so many it's one of the biggest causes of of our

01:47:50.500 medical costs along with death obviously uh and that's one that between that and cancer catching

01:47:55.780 those things early they can cure them early we just don't you know most of the time you're not

01:47:59.440 testing for them until you have a problem or you notice something and at that point sometimes it's

01:48:04.160 hard to actually deal with so uh so pat and i uh more pat than me i i've only gotten the looks

01:48:11.700 from the family and it helps because before you had a heart attack i said i've got to lose 50 pounds

01:48:17.600 and uh that's great so you laid a little bit of groundwork before the heart attack so you're good

01:48:22.240 right right that well some my question if i knew in advance but i'm not talking um but uh so so i just

01:48:31.520 got the looks you know boy jeffy's got to change the way you know he's got to start exercising and then

01:48:36.340 i get the whole family looking at me like how about you yeah exactly right so i want to thank you

01:48:41.980 yeah you're welcome and then pat jackie is all over yeah i mean i'm sorry she's like she's you know

01:48:48.440 we've got books to read and this is the food you're going to eat and you're not going to eat that and

01:48:51.600 this is what we're doing yeah you got to read the book i don't want to die well i do want to die 0.62

01:48:56.900 if you keep telling me to read the book i do want to die i'm looking for a way out now you're serving 0.88

01:49:01.900 me kale i want to die so jackie is pressuring pat to eat better and go through this you're getting 0.66

01:49:10.880 this i am getting pressured as well are you getting anything stew i haven't had too much

01:49:15.800 yeah she was she i'll call she's kind of she eats really well that's the problem she doesn't really

01:49:21.020 she doesn't need you no definitely not about that i'm definitely bringing the tanya says you know

01:49:26.780 tanya's been pretty cool about this and i think it's because tanya's like i ain't got to lose at any

01:49:30.720 time i'm good yeah she's okay i'm good i'm good i've i've had my share on that one so why 50 pounds

01:49:37.320 did you pick that number randomly no because that puts me back to where i i should be maybe 70

01:49:43.180 puts me back to about 215 right so you're in the area where you're here in striking distance yeah you

01:49:52.460 know i mean the lowest weight i've ever been was 208 208 yeah i mean outside of high school was that cnn

01:49:58.600 headline headline there's a couple pictures of those days yeah and i've never gotten back to

01:50:04.900 uh 210 even i mean i just i just can't get back to 210 but i've i've hit a place to where

01:50:11.920 uh i can't for some reason lose the weight i've tried really hard i can't lose the weight

01:50:20.620 um and i've got either want some ice cream yeah well no no i i've put on a lot because i've just

01:50:28.180 given up i've just been like fine um right and that's just that's not a good place to be but i've

01:50:33.920 tried for a long time to lose the weight and and i i just can't do it and i've also been in a place

01:50:40.920 to where my doctor and this was the greatest day of my life i said could you call my wife please and

01:50:47.360 tell her this i don't want you doing any exercise at all no exercise i'm like oh my gosh could you

01:50:55.940 write that down we need a prescription i need a tape or i need to hang on just a sec say that into

01:51:00.880 my phone please call my wife i need you is there a bible around because i'll swear to i i will follow

01:51:07.620 you to the letter right now is this a real doctor or someone you found behind it he was in mexico he's

01:51:15.140 still a real doctor that's what i'm hanging on the wall says he is right so what i want to do is i

01:51:19.980 don't i don't want to i don't want to try to lose weight with a bunch of people who are like i want

01:51:24.100 to i want to lose weight with a bunch of people who are like me you know what i mean it's like if you

01:51:28.480 go into a gym i'm not going into a gym by the way but if you go into a gym you know then all the

01:51:34.000 then you're the fat person that everybody looks at you know what i mean i don't want to be around

01:51:38.720 i don't want to be the fat person i want i want to lose weight with people and only people who have 0.96

01:51:44.740 experienced this no i want to lose p i want to lose weight with people who are out of breath when

01:51:51.820 they roll over in bed at night it's funny you mentioned that glenn but uh i'm here for you yeah

01:51:58.260 you know when you're like i don't really have to sit up now do i yeah i mean whoa that was a workout

01:52:05.060 and you mean all the way over because i think everyone who rolls all the way over is out of

01:52:08.780 breath you're saying what halfway you know when when you're thinking i just can't roll over it's

01:52:15.620 going to be i'm going to be winded then i'm gonna have to sleep an extra hour or like you know i'm

01:52:19.640 looking for those people like when you're lying in bed and you're thinking i really have to go to

01:52:23.300 the bathroom but there's so many steps there's just so many steps if i just stay here maybe i can

01:52:27.800 hold it until morning i've always been that way see here's here's my biggest problem is i have always

01:52:33.300 said i don't know if you remember me saying this but i've always said i'd be happy if i was just a

01:52:37.200 brain in a jar i love i don't i yeah i don't i don't like the whole body thing you know i just i'd

01:52:45.140 i'd be happy put a book in front of i have to have an eye or two and maybe a mouth okay i'd be happy if

01:52:50.760 i was just a head you need the wally scene right the movie for wally with the guys in the exactly

01:52:55.740 right aspire to the negative side of i have now that my body doesn't work so well i've adjusted

01:53:03.100 that thinking that's not good no i would not be happy as a head in a jar really yeah no i would

01:53:09.800 think you'd be rejecting your body more than ever like others are yeah i'm sorry i just had a

01:53:15.760 conversation with tanya before the show sorry yeah no it's all right it's by the way it's our 19th

01:53:19.380 anniversary oh that's right perfect time for that joke yeah it is because i think she's probably like

01:53:24.140 oh god i don't have to anymore do i i think i've i think i've done my tour we just came back

01:53:30.000 a tour of duty how many years is it a lot 19 19 19 that's amazing i cannot it's 19 years in two days

01:53:39.480 jeffy 19 years in two days that i said my first words in talk radio full-time do you remember what

01:53:47.520 they were i wasn't listening to you then i know he was the producer he was the he was the board op and

01:53:53.860 i said i think by taking this job i've i may have made the biggest mistake in my life it's a good

01:53:59.520 way to introduce yourself to an audience yeah well that's that's how i was feeling because i thought

01:54:03.860 this ain't ever gonna work out as i know that's the way i was thinking and at 5 30 at 5 30 i did a bit

01:54:11.620 and jeffy just looked through the glass and i was dying just dying and it was a wheel of meat i think

01:54:20.580 but no no no no no it was a wheel of blame wheel of blame and the concept was this is before pc got

01:54:30.700 way out of control the concept was we had to pick a story and then i would spin spin the wheel of blame

01:54:38.380 and it would come up with like white men or native americans and i would have to take the story

01:54:44.780 and and adjusted into that now that's the easiest game now it's all done all the time with the news

01:54:51.680 uh and it was just dying and going nowhere and i i looked at jeffy like good god help me man take me

01:54:58.780 out to a spot and i pointed and he hesitated and he just shook my head he did he just looked through

01:55:04.940 the grass and shook his head like you disgust me i mean i mean let's do the diet thing all right

01:55:15.660 this gets us off the hook all right we'll we'll start we'll we'll talk about it some more next uh

01:55:19.640 the next couple of days and then maybe next week we'll start it officially all right um maybe not

01:55:24.440 next week maybe in a few weeks yeah i mean unless super bowl's coming up then valentine's day okay so

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01:56:51.140 you know for an organization with parenthood in its name planned parenthood it doesn't seem very

01:57:02.600 interested in parenting at all that's why they have to save most of their ire to fight any effort to 0.91

01:57:09.160 limit abortion at all 0.96

01:57:11.080 remember any any opposition to planned parenthood is automatically construed as being against women's

01:57:20.740 health you just don't want women to get you know basic health care no that's that's that's not 1.00

01:57:25.820 true you're just part of the white patriarchy well that's probably true

01:57:29.860 but think about think about where we are in this debate if you can even call it a debate anymore

01:57:36.920 defending unborn humans means you're against women's rights the left is genius at twisting 0.99

01:57:46.340 logic and then making that twist mainstream and for an organization that claims to care so deeply

01:57:53.560 about basic female issues planned parenthood focuses most of its firepower and resources 0.92

01:57:59.680 on defending abortion that's what they are they're abortion houses the last example is their bill

01:58:06.900 board campaign across iowa to try to get people to quote say abortion go ahead say abortion just

01:58:14.820 let it roll off the tongue and feel the stigma of murder fade away say abortion is their new

01:58:23.320 campaign planned parenthood says we're shifting the narrative so all people can talk openly about

01:58:27.940 abortion no that's not true you don't want me talking about abortion

01:58:32.180 say murder

01:58:35.600 planned parenthood is waging their billboard war because the governor of iowa recently signed into

01:58:42.940 law one of the strictest abortion laws in the nation known as the fetal heartbeat law which bans

01:58:48.280 abortions in the state after the baby's heartbeat is detected which can be as early as six weeks

01:58:53.960 now the notion that it might be a baby human in there with a heart

01:58:59.500 would mean that we would might want to protect it from death

01:59:04.580 the law hasn't taken effect pending a lawsuit from planned parenthood and that's why they put the

01:59:10.300 billboards up it features the face of a woman who supposedly had an abortion

01:59:13.880 next to a quote saying i had an abortion and i'm not apologizing

01:59:18.500 another version says i had an abortion and it was just health care

01:59:23.220 you know most people agree and when you get down to six weeks that's where it starts to fall apart

01:59:30.960 but that line keeps getting further and further back as technology grows

01:59:37.300 it's interesting that we don't see a planned parenthood billboard

01:59:41.420 urging women to get that mammogram or cholesterol check

01:59:45.920 when's the last time you saw that abortion is the only billboard worthy cause for planned 1.00

01:59:51.700 parenthood because abortion is profitable as an industry it is the cause that keeps them 1.00

01:59:59.000 in business it isn't isn't that the most grotesque thing you've ever heard

02:00:04.000 yes planned parenthood is zealously devoted to women's health and defending women's rights

02:00:11.200 not the health and the rights of women that are still in the womb 1.00

02:00:15.460 not mammograms just abortions the women still in the womb are apparently expendable 0.98

02:00:23.340 because they're not women yet they're just babies with the potential of being a woman 0.97

02:00:30.440 or a man or one of the other 94 genders thank you for saying it i want to make sure somebody

02:00:36.880 needed to say it that's really an incredible thing you're right too i mean people generally do not

02:00:41.360 support abortion past the first trimester only 28 of people supported in uh in the second trimester

02:00:47.060 and only 13 of people supported in the third trimester so the mainstream the actual policy

02:00:53.140 of the democratic party is supported by 13 of the american people they do not have a lot of support

02:00:58.940 i would say that was even less because the democratic party won't even stand against partial

02:01:03.120 birth abortion it's true i mean and that would be even that's even less right um uh but it is

02:01:08.560 it's one of those issues that you know people just don't like to talk about and so it doesn't get

02:01:12.240 any conversation but i i think a lot of these billboards and these crazy things are a positive

02:01:16.160 for us because you really have to be you should be proud of it if it's nothing you know it's

02:01:21.940 either nothing or the worst thing that's ever happened yeah and if you think it's nothing well

02:01:26.380 then of course you can go put up billboards all you want i mean i don't know how you justify

02:01:30.060 that mentally but go ahead we can but what they say is we should have a conversation about it i'm

02:01:35.060 perfectly willing to have a conversation yeah without any name calling but they're not they're

02:01:41.280 not no they want they want a conversation in which they are talking and no one else is yes and that's

02:01:46.320 the problem with america is everybody just wants your side to be heard and nobody else's side to be

02:01:54.640 heard and with planned parenthood that's the way they've grown into the monstrous corporation that

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The Glenn Beck Program - January 08, 2019

Wall, Fence, Whatever It's a State of Emergency ｜ Guests： Dave Isay & Jeffy Fisher ｜ 1⧸8⧸19

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