Today on The Glenbeck Program, host Glenn takes a look at the pros and cons of President Trump declaring a National Emergency to get the border wall built. Glenn also discusses the dangers of identity theft, and the benefits of eating kale.
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00:00:58.820the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment this is the glenbeck program well today is a big day
00:01:09.540in america today or tonight at nine o'clock we find out if we're going to be a nation under another
00:01:17.860national emergency is this a national emergency what does that mean if the president says we're just
00:01:28.920going to spend the money does he have the legal right to do it what are the ramifications of it
00:01:36.240i thought we should start with a pro and con list and i want to hear from you the pros and the cons
00:01:43.780of having the president declare a national emergency tonight to be able to get the border built pros and
00:01:53.780cons let's look at this dispassionately because i know what my passion says i'm guessing i know what
00:02:01.200your passion says let's look at the facts first we do that right now
00:02:08.400this is the glenbeck program welcome to it um we by the way for uh anybody who is just uh joining us
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00:02:32.740fake news out there about superfoods and you can tell right away what what a superfood is if you pick
00:02:40.220up a superfood what does that imply it's food it's food and it has everything you need in it right
00:02:46.660right it's food right you wouldn't pick up a superfood uh and look and see a label on it that says
00:02:53.100supplement facts why would you need a supplement if it's a superfood that is how you tell they don't
00:03:01.840put the extra stuff in a superfood that's why field of greens is here now field of greens is
00:03:08.900something for somebody like me who hates greens i hate them i would like to banish all people who
00:03:16.760talk about kale as if it's something good you can tell me it's how good it is for me i'm in for an
00:03:24.220executive order on that one right but banning kale do not tell me that oh no you're gonna love it
00:03:28.840kale people oh my gosh kale people have to go away you don't have to eat any kale uh in fact you
00:03:34.700don't have to have a salad ever again with field of greens because it is a superfood there is no
00:03:39.040supplemental facts or uh yeah supplemental uh additions to it it is you look at the you look at
00:03:45.960the little uh bottle that it comes in and it says nutrition facts not supplemental facts you can add it
00:03:53.340to pretty much anything you eat or drink yeah and get all the vegetables you need so you don't have
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00:04:08.200promo code glenn all right what would you say if i told you that officially we were already
00:04:23.580uh under uh under a state of emergency 28 different states of emergencies they never ever go away you
00:04:35.060can't once you declare a national emergency the president does and i make no mistake i believe he
00:04:41.300has this power to do it and i think it's an important power for the president to have but the way it's
00:04:46.980designed it never ever goes away because it takes both houses to just majority vote no but then it goes
00:04:56.000to the president and he has to veto well he's the guy who just proposed it so he's not going to veto it he
00:05:04.480is he is going to veto it then you have to have two-thirds of congress over um uh overturn his veto well
00:05:13.920that almost never happens and in fact in history it never has happened but if you look at the national
00:05:21.000emergencies that we have they all kind of fall into the same category who was the first president to
00:05:28.160declare a national emergency can you even guess it was jimmy carter and it happened in 1979
00:05:38.780so we went from 1780 uh 1791 or 1789 to 1979 without a national emergency we went through world war one world war two
00:05:53.620we went through the civil war no national emergencies 1979 was the first and i want you to listen to the
00:06:02.620pattern blocking the iranian government property november 14th 1979 so that's what obama when he
00:06:09.960flew all that cash back that's what obama uh was usurping now he was giving back their property but
00:06:19.020that still remains we're still under a state of emergency blocking property so carter did it against
00:06:25.300iran and then you know the the billions of dollars we sent over there was essentially the other side of
00:06:30.020that transaction they were complaining about how we kept their stuff all this time correct yeah but
00:06:33.860we never got rid of the national emergency right uh proliferation of weapons of mass destruction
00:06:39.080november 14th 1994 so the next guy who did it was bill clinton now listen to this so the first
00:06:46.360president to ever do it 1979 was was uh um a carter he only did it once then reagan never did it
00:06:56.220bush never did it then 1994 clinton gets out his pen proliferation of weapons of mass destruction
00:07:04.260then prohibiting transactions with terrorists who threatened to disrupt the middle east peace process
00:07:09.720in 1995 prohibiting certain transactions with respect to the development of the iranian petroleum
00:07:15.140resources 1995 also in 1995 blocking acts assets and prohibiting transactions with significant
00:07:22.700narcotic traffickers then in 96 regulations of the anchorage and movement of vessels with respect to
00:07:30.440cuba then in 97 blocking sudanese government property and prohibiting transactions with sudan
00:07:36.560blocking property of persons who threaten international stabilization efforts in the western balkans that's
00:07:42.0202001 so now george bush is getting into it and here's where it really picks up the speed
00:07:48.740continuation of export control regulations august 17th 2001 declaration of national emergency by reason
00:07:56.940of certain terrorist attacks september 14th 2001 then september 23rd blocking property and prohibiting
00:08:05.580transactions with persons who commit threaten to commit or support terrorism then blocking property of
00:08:11.480persons undermining democratic process or institutions in zimbabwe march 6 2003 then
00:08:18.580protecting the protecting the development fund for iraq and certain other property in which iraq has an
00:08:23.400interest march 2003 blocking property of persons and prohibiting the export of certain goods to syria may
00:08:32.2402004 blocking property of certain persons undermining democratic processes and institutions in belarus june
00:08:41.0402006 also in october 2006 blocking property of certain persons contributing to the conflict of the
00:08:48.400democratic democratic republic of the congo then blocking property in persons undermining the sovereignty of
00:08:53.560lebanon and its democratic process and institutions in 2007 then we have in june 2006 continuing certain
00:09:03.700restrictions with respect to north korea and north korean nationalists and that is 2008 now we're into
00:09:11.660blocking property of obama time blocking property of certain persons continuing to uh the conflict in somalia
00:09:18.360blocking property of certain transactions related to libya blocking property of transnational criminal organizations
00:09:25.360blocking property of persons threatening peace security stability in yemen blocking property of certain persons
00:09:31.920contributing to the situation in ukraine that's in 2014 blocking property of certain persons with respect to south sudan
00:09:38.720in 14 blocking the property of certain persons contributing to the conflict in the central african republic
00:09:45.180blocking property suspending the entry of certain persons contributing to the situation in venezuela
00:09:50.680then brought brock blocking the property of certain persons engaging in significant malicious cyber enabled
00:09:56.540activities in 2015 and the last one that obama did blocking property of certain persons contributing to the
00:10:03.300situation in burundi that's in 2015 now what do those all have in common they're all blocking property and
00:10:10.660possessions of potential terrorists or uh you know inflamed newly inflamed uh hot spots around the globe
00:10:18.440right um they none of the none of it would fall under the you know category of new spending or anything
00:10:24.580like that it's all blocking property and that's what it's been used for right it is it is making sure that
00:10:30.540people the bad guys don't have access to more funds or transfer funds across international borders
00:10:37.640or that we do anything to help the bad guys that's what the emergency action has been since it was first
00:10:46.900used in 1979 and i would say too another thing that i think a lot of those have in common not all
00:10:52.900certainly certainly not september 14th 2001 but most of them i would say are lower on the priority list of
00:10:59.000american sovereignty and security than the act than the border security issue is like what's going on
00:11:05.120in burundi might be very important and it probably is uh but i would not put that on the level of
00:11:11.600september 11th september 11th or building a wall on our southern border right i mean i think like
00:11:16.780that doesn't mean that there was no reason to use those things but it you know so here is the here's the
00:11:23.060here's the issue it's not since 2006 that the americans have said we want a border wall that's
00:11:32.620when congress including hillary clinton and barack obama signed into law a border wall secure fence act
00:11:41.220of 2006 we signed it in and everybody in the senate and congress tried to convince me oh no glenn this
00:11:48.940time it's real no it's not i mean i knew it wasn't and you knew it wasn't they had no intention of doing
00:11:55.400it they were just placating the american people but this doesn't start in 2006 the reason why it was
00:12:02.920popular for obama and hillary clinton to sign it in in 2006 was because we all knew what happened just a
00:12:10.920few short years ago in 2001 and no one was willing to do anything about it our borders north
00:12:18.780and south are trouble but there's another there's another piece of the puzzle
00:12:24.460the the overwhelming problem that we have is overstayed visas and they've never fixed that either
00:12:34.140that's that was the number one problem on september 11th that's still the number one problem with
00:12:40.600terror and a border wall won't have anything to do with that it won't fix it but i don't think that's
00:12:47.140where the american people are they know that they don't think this is a fix all they just think this
00:12:53.040is one box that needs to be checked and no one will ever check it if i'm if i'm reading the american
00:13:01.700people right the american people know that this is a problem and they're tired of waiting around and
00:13:10.280being told by one party or the other we're going to fix that because bill clinton said he would fix that
00:13:17.160senator barack obama said he would fix that hillary clinton said she would fix that george bush said he
00:13:25.760would fix that no one has fixed that no one is serious about it except the american people
00:13:32.820so tonight i think people are going to be split in two camps the democrats who have been brainwashed
00:13:42.140that oh no this is just racist no it's not they're going to be against it even though their leaders
00:13:50.240signed it in in 2006 when all the rest of the democrats remembered september 11th
00:13:56.820they're going to be brainwashed and they're going to say no this is nothing about race nothing but race
00:14:04.000what does the right say about it let's start on our pro and con list in one minute
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00:16:24.900this is the glenbeck program so stew let's look at what let's start a pro and con list the pros as i see
00:16:47.740it is that this would mean that there would be a permanent solution and i think that's the number
00:16:52.740one thing that conservatives are looking for we're tired of having this same battle and being told
00:16:58.320we're going to take care of it knowing that they're not going to take care of it they're not going to
00:17:02.180be serious about it and so this provides something that goes beyond this president and it's done right
00:17:10.040unless they decide to blow it up or tear it down which i would put necessarily past the future president
00:17:14.520right uh well i can see them not repairing it just not just let it go to waste um okay so you have a
00:17:22.120permanent solution you have more security you haven't solved the problem but you have more
00:17:28.440security definitely improvement right yes a move in the right direction a big move in the right direction
00:17:34.560and you have accountability right accountability how do you mean that um you have uh somebody who's
00:17:44.240willing to say i'm responsible for this sure yeah that's nice to hear occasionally right the buck
00:17:50.920stops here that's the one thing that uh i think both republicans and democrats want maybe not on the
00:17:58.280same things but they want someone to say buck stops here and and that is that is the real problem
00:18:07.820with like government shutdowns and things like that is the more we don't believe in the federal
00:18:15.620government the more we want someone anyone just to step in and say i'll fix it because we think these
00:18:23.340things are common sense i believe the border wall is common sense i mean i want a bigger door i want
00:18:31.300more qualified people coming in i want the best people from all over the world to come in but i what i don't
00:18:40.140want are people coming in through the windows and through the the side doors that we don't know who's
00:18:46.080in the house and i don't want that in any way shape or form i don't want that from sweden and i don't want1.00
00:18:52.540that from libya and i don't want that from mexico it seems like you know the basic common sense common
00:19:01.000sense when it comes to having a country and having borders you have to be able to control them if they get
00:19:06.920out of control right no one's talking about a fence between us and canada because that is not an out
00:19:11.820of control border this one is uh and we have to do something to stop it the fence would it would help
00:19:18.820quite a bit and they've already let us down after they we've elected them and they've passed bills
00:19:23.560promising it okay including votes from diane feinstein and barbara boxer and barack obama and
00:19:29.500hillary clinton this is not a republican measure very recently no it was 2006 and that is that's the thing
00:19:35.620the president's going to hang his hat on tonight i think if he does this he may not do this i think
00:19:40.980he's going to you mean as far as actually saying the state of emergency state of emergency and shifting
00:19:45.380funds to pay for the border wall without passing the law yes you think he's going to do it i do do you
00:19:51.340if i had to guess i'd say yes there's a lot of reporting on it that that's definitely what he's
00:19:55.980considering um he may also just be threatening it right like he may be saying like look i'm going to do
00:20:01.540this either way you might as well get your daca and give me the money because i'm going to go do
00:20:06.620this as a yeah he may give he may say you've got seven days right you might put a window or 30 days
00:20:13.640whatever it is um well because and then the shutdown thing is getting to those elevated levels too where
00:20:18.440it's starting to you're already starting to see the reporting about people who who you know the tax
00:20:23.900refunds they've solved in the short term um but the you've got the food stamps thing that's right
00:20:28.740right around the corner there's several different programs that will start becoming major news stories
00:20:32.960if they don't get this fixed by then i wonder who's writing this tonight this really has to be
00:20:38.720written really really well and his his goal right is to make people understand the seriousness of the
00:20:46.340border as separately from some political issue right his goal is to say to the person who's in the
00:20:52.760middle who cares about our security um but isn't a partisan or isn't a huge trump person
00:20:58.580or whatever to convince them that hey you know you've been hearing all this stuff and they always
00:21:02.500say that i'm lying about this here are the facts and this really is a serious situation and we may need
00:21:07.280to make it a national emergency this is the first time that he's done anything from the oval office
00:21:12.800he has not given a speech behind the resolute desk in the oval office and not an address to the nation
00:21:22.120correct i don't know i'm pretty sure um i don't look it up will you marissa i'm pretty sure that that
00:21:31.560is a prime time address prime time this is his first prime time address from behind the resolute desk
00:21:38.080the resolute desk is generally uh reserved for really important speeches you know milestone kind of
00:21:49.760speeches to where we're going to war or there's a national emergency uh or there's something really
00:21:57.420grave that we need to talk about also it has traditionally been used for the farewell address
00:22:03.260um interesting to see the media struggle yesterday with should we even take this is this something that
00:22:08.560we should even take uh yes first of all yes second of all if you would have even suggested that under
00:22:13.700barack obama you would have been a racist for suggesting it unbelievable really unbelievable this
00:22:18.840is this one is not a show this one's not a show this is an address from the oval office from behind
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00:23:55.880uh has been uh one of our producers for almost 20 years uh and uh and had a massive massive almost fatal
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00:24:33.680a second of the show we're talking about the president and his um his address tonight from the
00:24:39.440oval office is the first from behind the resolute desk uh and this is an important one he's going to
00:24:45.600talk about the national emergency whether he declares a national emergency or not we don't know
00:24:51.980but this is a legal way for the president to get the wall built it is a highly controversial way to get
00:25:00.680it built he is going to apparently possibly uh evoke uh the bill that was passed by both houses
00:25:09.680including signed by barack obama then senator and senator hillary clinton to build a border wall
00:25:16.320uh in 2006 and he's going to say the pentagon has the money and this is a national emergency
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00:25:41.060and a bunch of steven crowder steven crowder comes back i think january 17th i think yeah uh which is
00:25:46.600uh great all brand new steven crowder episodes um all right so we're trying to make a pro and con list
00:25:52.100and pat uh on the pro i have it's permanent it's a permanent solution it does help with security
00:26:01.120uh it provides accountability which i think everybody wants somebody wants somebody to stand
00:26:06.180up and say i'm responsible um but also i would say that it also helps in the drug war for sure
00:26:14.560i mean that is a national emergency what we have coming across our borders right now our southern
00:26:20.720border in particular uh with fentanyl and heroin and uh uh and oxycontin that is a national emergency
00:26:29.580i expect that to be a big part of the pitch tonight too because that's you know that is an escalating
00:26:33.880issue with opioids and everything else and part of that is related to heroin is coming across the
00:26:38.840border it's where most of it comes from yeah as far as a pro i don't think it'll happen any other way
00:26:44.600this is not gonna happen they're not gonna do it the only way to do it that's the only way to do it
00:26:49.080so i have a whole buttload of stuff on the on the pro list on the con list there's one really there's
00:26:55.300really only one it's not the right way to do it how what do we do when somebody the next president
00:27:00.220comes in and and tell me that it's you know uh beto or beto he comes in or uh tamala harris
00:27:10.940hillary clinton and uh and she comes in and she says climate change is a national emergency
00:27:18.300they're already saying that without without law backing correct they're already saying it they
00:27:23.100could also do that regardless of whether he declares an emergency to build the wall it could
00:27:28.260happen anyway but i i get the point and the point is is this the right way to do it and of course
00:27:34.160it isn't but it won't get done any other way i think we've seen that it was ordered it was by law
00:27:41.380in 2006 the fence shall be built and somehow it wasn't well somehow happened with k bailey hutchinson yes
00:27:50.860yep so she came in and said well a fence where it's appropriate and you can use other technologies
00:27:56.340and security and other areas so just which i agree with but they never did anything about it right
00:28:02.020they haven't done any of it they haven't done any of it and only now are they even repairing some of
00:28:07.400the broken down areas of the fence that's the only thing they've done so far and so that that also goes
00:28:13.960to the permanency of that that is a that is to me a con because you can build this but then not
00:28:21.120repair it future presidents cannot repair it and you got nothing yeah you got nothing yeah
00:28:26.240and it looks like it's changing from a wall to a fence now again which i i take the double fencing
00:28:33.000if because that's really effective and it's proven to be effective in in the san diego area they built
00:28:38.880a double and in some parts of the border it's a triple wall and then they have a space between
00:28:44.080the fences where the border patrol goes up and down patrolling and it's a road right i can drive it
00:28:49.980back and forth and vehicles yes and it reduced illegal crossings by 95 95 i will tell you you
00:28:59.140guys didn't go with me when i went to israel the very first time jeffy did and we went and we were
00:29:04.780on the border of syria we were up on up on our way to lebanon we're on the border of syria and they
00:29:11.140had a border fence and it was a it was a double chain link razor wire fence but all of the sand
00:29:19.940on each side in the middle and on each side had been uh raked okay so it was perfectly raked there
00:29:28.420are no footprints in it and uh i said can we stop i want to take a picture of this and the driver said
00:29:35.040you don't want to stop here and i said we were out in the middle of absolutely nowhere i mean
00:29:41.120nowhere there i hadn't seen a house in an hour that we were nowhere and he said you don't want to stop
00:29:47.680here and i said why is it dangerous and he said no but you're going to be questioned and i said question
00:29:53.120there's no way we haven't seen a car he said okay he said but do not step on the sand and i said okay
00:30:03.320so i got out and i took a picture before i could turn around there was a there was a border guard
00:30:10.020on my tail excuse me asking me what we were doing who were who we were i mean that that border is
00:30:21.760secure and it's just two fences and they rake that sand to be able to see if there's any footprints on it
00:30:29.080and you know immediately and they actually patrol it i'm fine with that yeah i'm fine with that they
00:30:37.060take it seriously the wall to fence you know conversation is meaningless right like what we
00:30:42.700want is a barrier to stop like i understand that that's what trump said and that's why the media is
00:30:46.720so focused on it because they want to prove that trump didn't come through with his promise i think the
00:30:51.120american people though look at that and say what we want is people stopping stop from crossing the0.98
00:30:56.180border with some sort of physical reason why trump people and and me want a wall and not a fence
00:31:02.820is because i don't believe i mean i don't believe that they will actually patrol that fence i don't
00:31:09.460think they're actually going to patrol it maybe this president will you think the next president will
00:31:14.540you go with wire cutters and cut it out if they don't if they don't if they don't care but a fence
00:31:20.400a wall is more difficult right a wall you have to scale yeah especially the one he described uh at
00:31:27.620one of his campaign stops with the concrete and steel rebar uh 30 or 40 feet high yeah that would
00:31:34.880be that would be difficult it would be difficult i mean again if you don't patrol it you could take
00:31:39.300down any wall right i mean they're gonna have to still patrol it at some level but it would be more
00:31:43.540difficult and that's the that's the issue here is to try to make these things more difficult so where
00:31:47.140do you stand on this well we do we finish with the cons list i mean you think that's that it
00:31:52.340uh just just the fact that it's just not the right process of doing it i think so that's what i think
00:31:57.880yeah because i'm absolutely in favor of a wall of a wall or fence yeah i do think because i mean if
00:32:03.880you look back at let's say the nuclear option for judges right the nuclear option for judges was
00:32:08.440initially done uh not for supreme court justice uh justices but just for normal judges to be pushed
00:32:15.600through and so the democrats did that first the republicans always could have done it when they
00:32:20.860were in but the democrats did that first and so it was easy for republicans to come in and say look
00:32:25.820they already did it right they they were used that as a justification it wasn't even a controversial
00:32:30.000move really when when they did it with gorsuch i mean they changed the entire process of the way we
00:32:35.040voted on supreme court justices with with gorsuch yeah um and it wasn't really even a story
00:32:40.220i mean that so i think when you take that off the table and you say well we can use a national
00:32:45.460emergency for our priorities as far as policy if we can't get them done through laws this is one of
00:32:50.600the things i did not like about the barack obama daca thing um you know there are a lot of people who
00:32:55.400think that people who came across the border with their parents when they were say seven years old and
00:33:01.400are now you know whatever 19 should be able to stay they're dreamers that have that whole conversation
00:33:06.280then they tried to pass the dream act 900 000 times with some republican support at times
00:33:11.300and they couldn't get it done so barack obama said well we'll just do it daca we'll just do daca
00:33:16.100and we'll just get it done and go around the law the same thing is happening here i think there's an
00:33:21.200argument to be made that donald trump has said correctly that we need to we need this money we
00:33:26.700need to secure the border like this is a real problem give me the money put it in a law they're not
00:33:31.040putting it in a law so now he's coming up with a new way of doing it and that is bothersome i don't like it
00:33:35.240daca was not a national emergency and i think between drugs and uh and illegal immigration
00:33:41.660when especially when you see who's coming over you have you have people from the middle east
00:33:49.100coming over our border you also have people from venezuela and uh uh and honduras that do not wish1.00
00:33:57.000this country well so it's not like just dreamers are coming across the border you have ms 13 ms 13
00:34:05.180you can clearly make a um a case against this what'll be interesting is this will go through
00:34:11.180the courts but if the courts held up daca and then say no to this president i think you're headed
00:34:20.920for real trouble and the court should not be able to overrule the president on this there's a lot of
00:34:25.240people saying oh this is unconstitutional it is not unconstitutional it is it is it's a past law
00:34:29.920he has the right to do it he's using it in a completely new way which is expanding the power
00:34:35.620initially they passed this with a with a check and balance in which the congress could override
00:34:40.320his uh you know his situation like if someone comes in and says this is a national emergency
00:34:45.780congress could say well no it's not we don't believe you that got that got thrown out in the
00:34:50.440courts so there's no check and balance other than overriding a veto so we're all agreed that we want
00:34:55.820the fence and we and we think that this is a national emergency uh between drugs ms 13 uh and
00:35:03.400other things that are going on um but we all agree good heavens please not this way i'm afraid of the
00:35:11.480ramifications of it however best case scenario here maybe he talks about it he threatens it the democrats
00:35:17.480get freaked out about it and don't and don't want him to be doing this in the future so maybe they come
00:35:22.820along to a negotiation i see i don't think that i mean i don't think they will either i think they
00:35:28.120i think they'll love the fact that you've just expanded the power i think so too i said best
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00:37:22.860they say that it will last no more than eight minutes he's not making a case he's making an
00:37:28.300announcement of some sort uh and it's about security and humanitarian projects on the border
00:37:36.880uh rob in maryland pros and cons hello glenn uh i am a constitutionalist they they always say
00:37:46.920conservative or liberal you we need to stop doing that and say constitutionalist yes and constitutionally
00:37:53.340one thing the government out of the few things they're supposed to do is provide security for
00:37:59.180the country yes um i definitely want a wall i don't want a fence for the reasons you guys already said
00:38:04.500once the fence is up you can just wire cutters and you're in if it's not monitored um the pros uh it
00:38:11.380stops any possible terrorist an easy way and they can still get in but at least that way is stopped
00:38:17.360the drugs which is a societal issue it helps slow that because right now they can just
00:38:23.320bring a mule train in um third uh it helps us uh economically um we could pay for that wall in a
00:38:32.000year from all the benefits they give away you know you can have a welfare state and no border
00:38:37.380um and uh i i do believe that it would also help the security of the people you know that get
00:38:43.900shot or hit by a drunk driver who shouldn't be here i mean people still get hit by drunk drivers
00:38:48.840but they aren't they're they're supposed to be here now the con the only con is that yes this is
00:38:56.120this is not the right way to do it we really should have it done the proper way but they're not doing
00:39:01.740it the proper way i mean so as a constitutionalist where do you end up i end up with this constitutional
00:39:08.040daca was not constitutional because this deals with national security okay all right i i think that's a
00:39:15.520decent place for a constitutionalist to stand i think i think it's true i don't think it's
00:39:20.300unconstitutional i don't think it's the right way to do this but it's i don't think it's not
00:39:24.560unconstitutional it's it's a first thing i will say provide for the common defense the national
00:39:29.460security uh the national emergency act which is based on is a really flawed law that i don't think
00:39:35.840should exist in its current way however he is using it in a way that is appropriate and legal i don't
00:39:41.520think there's any question whether it's it's legal per se take your phone calls uh after the top of
00:39:46.660the hour as well let me go to marie uh in pennsylvania hello marie hello hi thank you for taking my call
00:39:53.740and best wishes to jeffy um yesterday governor tom wolf of pennsylvania declared a statewide emergency
00:40:01.580disaster declaration on heroin in pennsylvania to me this proves it's an emergency and trump should use
00:40:09.880this you cannot solve a problem like this at the end of the problem with states calling disasters
00:40:15.220but you must solve it at the beginning with a wall to stop it i've lost friends and family due to these
00:40:21.200drugs and i want them to stop all right marie i i agree with you that drugs uh are a real problem
00:40:30.200with the border and a border wall uh would go a long way to stopping them i want to get back into the0.94
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00:41:40.880the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment this is the glenbeck program so last hour we
00:41:50.440started to make a list of the pros and the cons the president tonight is going to give a speech that
00:41:57.000they say will last no longer than eight minutes so he's not making a case on something i think he's
00:42:02.360making an announcement um is he going to declare a national emergency or is he going to say i will
00:42:10.600in 30 days if we don't solve this is he going to just take the reins and say i'm going to build the
00:42:18.180border wall we made a pros and cons list and i've got lots of pros it's a permanent solution it does add
00:42:25.460to our security doesn't solve our security but it adds to our security it stops people hopefully like
00:42:31.260ms13 and others who are coming across our southern border it it actually helps health care because we'll
00:42:39.060be saving a lot of money you can't have you can't have open borders and a welfare state you have to pick
00:42:46.740one or the other and also drugs we have a serious problem with drugs and on the other side of the
00:42:55.380border it helps with humanitarian humanitarian aid how many people the hondurans we know we've heard
00:43:03.140the interviews with them how many were used by people saying oh no america is just going to open up
00:43:08.740its doors how many people are harmed by that now i can only come up with one con but it's a big one
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00:44:55.240okay so the only the only thing that i can think of that is a a con on national emergency is it is not
00:45:13.740unconstitutional the president has a right to do that we have 22 national emergencies already running
00:45:22.520they just never go away and there's all sorts of different types of national emergencies as well
00:45:27.940i mean one of the funny things about this is we had a caller last hour saying well one of the ways he
00:45:32.320could do this is because of the opioid thing i mean this is a major issue well there is a national
00:45:37.580health emergency on opioids a different type of national emergency um but until he actually he promised
00:45:45.440to to declare a national emergency on opioids but it took him with trump a while to do it and in that
00:45:51.700time the media was constantly complaining that he wasn't starting a national health emergency on
00:45:57.060opioids they complained about it constantly until he finally did wind up doing it now that the same
00:46:03.180it's a related matter on opioids and heroin and these sorts of things now that he wants to do a
00:46:08.980different type of national emergency it's a very controversial thing right so if he's smart he will
00:46:14.020include opioids tonight he will include uh ms 13 and he will include um the the humanitarian crisis
00:46:25.560that has been caused here recently by people who wish to do our country no good um also he should
00:46:32.840include that we will open up uh our our immigration and make it easier for qualified people to come in
00:46:41.920because i don't think anybody has a problem with with immigrants as long as they're here and they're
00:46:46.220qualified right we what we don't want is ms 13 and again ms 13 gets this political sort of thing oh
00:46:51.640that's just donald trump trying to scare people to just put this in perspective uh ms 13 kills 4.3
00:47:00.280times as many people that die in school shootings in the united states 4.3 times as many people die at the
00:47:07.400hands of ms 13 then die in school shootings and how much do you hear about ms 13 you don't ever hear
00:47:13.160about it it's just a nonsensical oh that's just donald trump he's making things up ms 13 what he
00:47:17.640just letters and numbers he's just throwing them together no it's a that's a very violent gang and
00:47:22.100they kill a lot of people in the united states it's a real problem a real problem if you think school
00:47:26.360shootings are a real problem which we all know the left does this is four times the size and the
00:47:32.960president should include things like that if he's going to make the case now the only downside i can
00:47:38.100see on this is i don't like the way this is being done i don't i don't want to set this precedent i
00:47:44.140don't want the next president coming in and saying well i'll tell you a national crisis a national
00:47:50.280emergency it's global warming and here are all the stats because they will yeah the idea behind a
00:47:57.700national emergency is to take things that aren't partisan issues where there's not disagree we all
00:48:02.580know that you know iran right is a big problem and we need to stop their funding right that was the
00:48:07.500first time it was used during the again during the hostage crisis september 11th right after that we
00:48:12.360all know we're all on the same page the votes are all you know 100 to 0 on issues related to that
00:48:18.000this is one where obviously republicans want it to happen democrats don't um and if you tell me the
00:48:23.880thing that isn't partisan now well because you could say it's usually only in emergency situations
00:48:29.040but again that's why there's a national emergency part of this right but isn't part of the national
00:48:34.000emergency look i'm not making a case for this because i don't think this is the right way to do it
00:48:37.640but i i'm gonna play devil's advocate because there is no other way to do this anymore any other way to
00:48:44.000do it has been destroyed because we've made everything partisan when you said well we should know well
00:48:50.940we all did we all knew that in 2006 they all barack obama and hillary clinton signed the wall
00:49:00.780into law it passed 80 to 19 by the way in the senate okay so it wasn't a partisan issue it just is now
00:49:07.960yep um climate change should not be a partisan issue but it is a partisan issue it is a partisan issue
00:49:15.020because at least it's how you deal with it right yes and they will say the same thing this is not
00:49:19.400supposed to be a partisan issue and we should pass uh it's a national state of emergency on the
00:49:24.420climate and we can do x y and z they've tried it i mean this is how a lot of times the epa has tried
00:49:29.540to control emissions and put new standards on which are things that you know i've fought against the
00:49:34.740entire time because they're i believe those are completely unconstitutional this one would not be
00:49:39.240it's allowed through the law it would be not only would it not be unconstitutional it would be
00:49:44.120completely legal as far as i can tell it's just a new way of using this it is an it does seem to be
00:49:49.920an expanded use of this power which you know i don't want that ever i don't ever want to be on the
00:49:55.160air telling you that the government is taking is is is getting more power to do something um because
00:50:02.340they already have enough they already have a lot of power and the reason you know these things are hard
00:50:06.660to do to pass a border wall is going to be hard to do um and that is sort of built into our system
00:50:14.640what's really crazy is we went to the moon in the 1960s when we didn't have the technology
00:50:19.200okay we didn't have the technology and we said we have to do this not because it's easy but because
00:50:25.160it's hard we don't need any technology we don't need to do anything technology has been around for a
00:50:30.900you know forever yeah uh look at it's hard to do no hard to do was go to the moon in 1969
00:50:40.400that was hard to do getting together and putting a fence or a wall up to stop people from coming in
00:50:48.260across our border that's not hard it's just people unwilling to do it yeah i mean i just you know we all
00:50:57.140if this was the way that this could have been done we wouldn't have needed to have a conversation
00:51:02.420about laws for the past two years right i think everyone realized for the past two years including
00:51:07.500the administration that this was not the way to do this the same way by the way that barack obama
00:51:11.500had the conversation about daca and they said we can't do this we had to pass a law and then they
00:51:16.140came up with another way around it this one is a little bit different i think it's better than the
00:51:19.700daca thing there's no question about it but it it makes me a little uneasy doesn't it let's look at it
00:51:24.060this way the only reason why we have donald trump the thing that donald trump really connected because
00:51:31.240remember he wasn't connecting at the beginning until he got onto the border wall when he started
00:51:37.120on the border wall that was his in his first opening speech that was like 19th on his list yeah it was
00:51:42.320not a high priority in that speech people forget that the whole you know mexican rapist thing that
00:51:46.440he got beat up on so much that was like i want to say it was like two or three percent of his speech
00:51:51.200it was it was not something he focused on at all so as soon as he started to get onto that that's
00:51:55.740when he really took off so let me just let me just posit this uh this little thought here that
00:52:02.240perhaps because the democrats refused to deal with what they said they would do in 2008 and they agreed
00:52:13.020that we needed a wall but then for some political reason or some other reason that never has been
00:52:19.240vocalized they decided not to build the wall that's the reason why we have donald trump as president
00:52:27.200because politicians refused to do exactly not what they said they were going to do but what they wrote
00:52:35.940a bill and signed on to do they passed a law that said shall be built and they never did it so if
00:52:45.600you're looking for an ultimate reason why donald trump how could donald trump be our president well
00:52:49.980there it is yeah it's stuff like that yeah and the republicans and the democrats failed to build a wall
00:52:55.880that they passed a law it's amazing but i mean trump one thing about trump in these moments is he
00:53:02.800doesn't like being on defense right so this is a way for him to turn it to being on offense i've got
00:53:07.820something i can use and i will use it i think there's a good chance that he says tonight
00:53:11.400you've got two weeks to hammer this out or i'm going to use this so that puts him on the offensive
00:53:19.000um you know again it makes me uneasy that sort of power but still it's it is an understandable
00:53:24.760thing that i mean because the basic thing behind it everybody agrees with at least in this audience
00:53:30.180i think most people on on the conservative side which is this is a real problem people are ignoring
00:53:35.380it we need this thing built figure out a way to do it and that is a completely logical way to think
00:53:40.580we just have to make sure we don't cross some barrier we're going to get burned by it correct
00:53:44.380left to them their own devices the american people would solve this problem oh yeah we would solve it
00:53:50.800just take all just take all of the politicians uh out of the mix never more than uh 60 seconds away
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00:55:31.280this is the glenbeck program we go to taylor in indiana hello taylor
00:55:48.740hey uh i'm with you guys on it's not the right way to do it but you kind of touched on the pro that i
00:55:56.220was going to mention and that um i think this energizes his base for 2020 i didn't vote for
00:56:01.960trump i was i voted for edmund mcmullin um kind of like you guys suggested and but i think he's
00:56:06.980going to use this if he does in fact build the wall he's going to say all right these
00:56:10.840destructionist democrats didn't allow me to get this done i built this wall and i just think that
00:56:16.540energizes his base like you guys said people were fed up and that's kind of what got him elected
00:56:20.600i think that um i think if he doesn't build the wall he's in he's in trouble um because that was
00:56:28.540the number one thing he promised to do and he had a chance and then he folded on it which was shocking
00:56:34.380to his base i think uh and i think he knows i've got to build this darn wall and i used to be in that
00:56:42.280camp like hey all right now we're in power let's just ram it down their throat but like you said that
00:56:46.760pendulum is going to swing the other way and that's why i'm in that con cam which is not the
00:56:50.700right way to do it because he's not so it's easy to say i agree with it but it's not the right way
00:56:57.860to do it have you made a decision yet on are you for or against it if he says i'm going to build it
00:57:04.460anyway i'd be against it i mean you yeah that you have that feel good it's like all right cool
00:57:10.100it's done but it's the wrong way to do it and i would not be for it the way that he's uh proposing
00:57:16.040because there's a tough thing here a lot of people that's a great perspective i think um
00:57:22.120it's one of those things where we were having this conversation okay well it's not going to
00:57:26.840get done any other way and and we want it done so how do we get it done well in our system a lot of
00:57:33.820times there's a lot of stuff you want to do that you don't get done right like that's just part of
00:57:38.040what the founders designed i mean there's a lot of stuff that i would love to get done like
00:57:42.080getting this income tax to zero right i but i can't do it unfortunately uh right now i think
00:57:49.240that is a you know you have to continue to make your case and you have to continue to to prove to
00:57:54.700people that this really is the issue that it is and you've seen you know you might say like right now
00:57:58.680and it's understandable there's no way this is ever going to get done you know the democrats oppose it
00:58:02.880and blah blah blah but again as you point out this actually was passed this was like this is this
00:58:08.200isn't a this isn't something that you can never pass it actually was passed fairly recently in 2010
00:58:13.100democrats were pulled and it was a 50 50 issue among democrats whether you could do it and it was
00:58:17.080obviously favored among independents and republicans there's no reason this debate can't swing back to
00:58:22.360the sensible side um but you know right now it's become unfortunately an issue of whether you like
00:58:28.380donald trump or not is the question not whether this is an actual issue and that is i think the fault of
00:58:33.960the media and i think it's the fault of of turning everything into a partisan issue even when it's
00:58:38.620blatantly obvious it would be helpful for our security but there's no reason we can't at some
00:58:43.120point get back to some sensible discussion on this right we've already been there so i um i started
00:58:48.200teaching the kids the constitution um over the holiday that was my christmas present to them wow and uh
00:58:55.780they loved it um they've all turned atheists yes we've turned uh uh i spent about an hour every
00:59:03.000every night for a week of the holiday with the whole family and we went over the declaration of
00:59:09.100independence and the constitution and i'm struck by the preamble of the constitution the only the
00:59:16.720only capitalized words in the constitution they're huge they jump off the page we the people and we the
00:59:24.860people this was a this was a different idea no constitution no government was formed by the people it
00:59:30.700was formed by the elites but this is the people we the people of the united states in order to form a
00:59:38.280more perfect nation not a perfect nation a more perfect nation meaning we're never going to be
00:59:44.820perfect can we stop expecting that a more perfect union establish justice ensure domestic tranquility
00:59:54.500and provide for the common defense now let's just take those apart has this government established
01:00:02.060justice do you feel that we that justice is being served right now i think that is the one
01:00:09.880where they're the closest we are we have made some mistakes we're trying to correct those mistakes
01:00:17.720meaning illegal justice yes if you were commit a crime and you have a chance to prove your case
01:00:22.400obviously it's not perfect but right with we the people it's not perfect but it's getting better i think
01:00:28.820with they the government they're destroying justice there is no such thing as justice right
01:00:36.640you look at established justice ensure domestic tranquility
01:00:42.200uh i don't that one's all solved i think uh everyone's tranquil right they're doing the opposite
01:00:50.400the the the most irritant the biggest irritant in our society is government it's the parties it's
01:01:00.060the politicians that are are coaxing us into bonfires don't you think they are so unconstitutional
01:01:10.480right now they're not helping us promote domestic tranquility they're not promoting that they're
01:01:17.920promoting the opposite provide for the common defense pretty good pretty good except that's where
01:01:25.760this one falls in when it comes to solving the problem that we had september 11th they haven't
01:01:31.560solved that the number one problem is overstayed visas it's still the number one problem it's not the
01:01:37.660border it's overstayed visas promote the general welfare notice it says provide common defense
01:01:47.880and promote the general welfare that's interesting it doesn't guarantee it no it guarantees defense
01:01:58.340guarantees defense have to provide defense it has to promote general welfare so in other words it has
01:02:07.020it has to do things like encourage science encourage business encourage entrepreneurship uh it needs to
01:02:15.580it needs to promote the things that would be good for society uh well hang on just a second um
01:02:25.260they're supposed to ensure domestic in tranquility they're not ensuring that they're supposed to ensure that
01:02:33.020they're supposed to promote the general defense they are doing a pretty good job on that and they're supposed to promote general welfare the entire thing is upside down the entire thing is upside down to secure the blessings of liberty i don't think anybody in washington even looks at liberty as a blessing anymore
01:03:01.020they think i think i think many of them think it's a curse there are too many people out there doing things that we don't even know about
01:03:08.080follow the constitution follow the constitution and it will not lead you astray
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01:04:28.000this is the glenbeck program there's a lot to talk about um today and we're going to continue to take your phone calls the pro and con list
01:04:42.000on national emergency with the border um i think the consensus so far is i want the border wall don't like the way this is being done or possibly being done
01:04:52.400we'll know tonight as the president addresses the nation at 9 p.m supposed to be an eight minute speech no longer according to the white house
01:04:59.820um and uh and we'll continue to talk about that here in just a second i i i also because it's a new year
01:05:07.500i really want to focus on the big issues and i was overwhelmed
01:05:12.340during the holiday with the number of people that wrote in and said how close they were to giving up
01:05:24.160how they had wrestled with depression how they had been wrestling with alcoholism and how they had
01:05:33.120a new commitment to continue another day
01:05:39.160and sometimes we forget about how alone people can feel
01:05:45.480and it's because we don't talk about these things because we kind of bury them and they are
01:05:51.060they are kind of first principles they're they're the things that we should be talking about with each
01:05:55.880other we should be looking out for one another but sometimes these things make us uncomfortable and
01:06:02.120you don't know what to say i know this is true for me in many cases with
01:06:07.560um veterans because i have i hold them in such high regard
01:06:15.140i don't necessarily i just don't necessarily know