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Glenn Beck talks about the New Hampshire primary and what he would do if the government failed to protect the people of the United States, and why it s a good idea to have a year's worth of medicine on hand in case of an emergency.
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This is probably the end of the primary season, which is, hey, something new.
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But isn't everything that happens something new and exciting like we've never seen before?
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I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna hang my hat there.
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You know what? This is new. We've never seen this before.
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This will be fun. Let's see how that works out, shall we?
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Uh, so we have the, uh, New Hampshire primary today.
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Uh, and, uh, then, uh, then we have, uh, I mean, some would say, uh, it's a problem that the Supreme Court just said Texas can't protect itself when the federal government fails to protect it.
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I mean, it's going to be new, exciting, or to see things that never have happened really before.
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And I don't think we're going to have to wait long.
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I've been saying that we're like, you know, five, ten years.
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I think we're, you know, days, weeks, months before we can see how this all turns out, which is great.
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So, let's start with what's happening in New Hampshire.
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In fact, I would say my impression of this race is one that is moving quickly away from
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If we would have talked about this about a month ago, maybe three weeks ago, right after
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Chris Christie drops out, there's a real chance of Nikki Haley kind of keeping this close.
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There's some polling that shows it in single digits.
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You know, Christie dropping out, most of his voters likely go to her.
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I mean, it was the one state he was competitive.
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So there's an argument to be made that this was a...
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I mean, it was always a leaning Trump race, but it was close to a toss up there a few weeks
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What has happened since the Iowa results have come in is it has consolidated, I would say,
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Even the polls that showed Trump with lead were showing him with a, you know, 13, 15-point
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So this one does seem like it is moving towards Trump.
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I would not be surprised at all to see this to be real blowout territory.
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Insider Advantage has it at 27, with Trump at 62% of the vote.
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The Boston Globe, Suffolk University, which they're doing a tracking poll, kind of updating
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It seems to be moving in the direction of Donald Trump, showing a real blowout.
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And at that point, you'd look at this and say, well, probably this is completely over.
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Yeah, because in South Carolina, I mean, it's pretty much of a career killer.
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I mean, even Walter Mondale won his state against...
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It was the only one, but he at least won his state against Ronald Reagan.
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Lost Florida, and that was the end of his campaign.
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Now, in a weird way, DeSantis is Florida and Trump was Florida, so he kind of has multiple
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home states, which is one of the nice features of being a billionaire.
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Trump is not from South Carolina, quite clearly, and he already has a major lead there.
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And there's an argument for her to say, why not stick around?
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She doesn't have, I would argue, the future of DeSantis and the party.
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Or DeSantis has a real incentive to get out of the way, endorse Trump, fall in line.
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So, it is, once they indicted Donald Trump, once that happened, he became the underdog.
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You know, it was interesting to watch as Trump has kind of done this tour.
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And, you know, of course, as is the way with Trump, you know, he's very aggressive against
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And the second you endorse him, he's very, very nice to you.
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But when he made the statement in a couple places, you know, I'm retiring the DeSanctimonious
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name, the reaction from the crowd was cheering.
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He's still plus 40, 40, when it comes to favorability in the Republican Party.
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This is not a guy who destroyed himself in this race.
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He don't do, honestly, he didn't do, and this is not why I think she destroyed herself,
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He didn't do what Nikki Haley did, and that is come right after Donald Trump, be Chris
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No, she hasn't been Chris Christie, but she took some pages out of Chris Christie's notebook.
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It's not going to work, is she's out of step with the new Republican feeling, which is
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honestly, I mean, the left and the Democrats, I don't see any movement there, except to
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And that's not where Democrats live, I don't think.
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The average Democrat in the middle of the country.
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We have actually become much more, when it comes to wars and things, much more like
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We're suspicious of the, you know, the industrial complex, military industrial complex, suspicious
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I don't want to sign up for that description of what we've become.
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I mean, if you were a Democrat, that's the way you would view us on war.
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I'm still for, look, you come and poke us in the eye and give us a bloody nose.
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And I don't want to rebuild everything or anything.
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And we do that a few times and then just leave.
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Well, I'm going to have an opinion maybe on that, but I'm not going to get involved.
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And I think that is, you're right, out of step with the energy of the party.
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And that's why I'd ask you, Glenn, like, while I think DeSantis quite clearly has a future,
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might not be the president of the United States in 2028.
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He has not done what Chris Christie has done and no one would ever want it.
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Nikki Haley, I think, falls closer to the Chris Christie vibe than the DeSantis vibe coming
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Where, like, it feels like if she doesn't win here or do something here, her future in
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Like, she probably will have some prominent position.
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There's a lot of money in one side of the Republican Party that is not the Donald Trump
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So it's not to say she has no future, but, like, I don't think she's looking at herself
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So saying all that makes me think that her best piece of strategy is probably to stick
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around and pocket delegates over the long term and hope that Donald Trump runs into some
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major legal problem that changes the dynamic of the race in some way.
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But what's the upside for her to just drop out and go away?
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I don't know that there is one, especially with South Carolina next.
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But it does not have tons and tons of donors coming in.
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Nikki Haley could run a bare bones campaign doing interviews on MSNBC for the next six months
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Trafalgar is saying that, you know, there was a concerted effort to get Democrats to go
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out and vote for Nikki Haley and to get the independents who usually vote Democrat to come
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And people are just going to if they do go, they're going to write in Joe Biden.
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It's funny because the Democrats once again are making Trump's road easier.
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But they the vast majority of voters in New Hampshire are independents.
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It's not like other states, because the way that that the registration goes for this primary
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is if you're a Democrat, you cannot come today and register as a Republican and vote in the
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So most people just stay independent and pick the primary that they want to go into,
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just, you know, figuring out whatever they feel like at the time.
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The long story on why the Democratic Party did this.
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Mr. President democracy himself, who just cares so much about democracy, wound up losing Iowa,
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New Hampshire last time and then just deleted them off the calendar this time.
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That's the show of democracy from Joe Biden and the Democratic Party.
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But they have a law there that they have to have the first primary.
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However, it's become a big deal because other candidates filed there.
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And last minute, everyone's coming in on the Biden side and saying,
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maybe this would look bad for us if we don't win.
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If Dean Phillips wins this primary, this is going to look bad.
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So they've dumped money in through super PACs to try to get people to write in Joe Biden,
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which is now taking those independent Democratic leading voters that may have crossed for Nikki Haley over
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to the Biden side to try to get Biden to have a showing there so he doesn't embarrass himself.
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I think this is something that is legitimately going to hurt Haley's chances tonight.
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Because the people who just want to come out and hurt Trump are being told by their people,
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I think that's part of the dynamic that's happening here.
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But I do expect Trump to to win and win probably handily tonight.
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I'm trying to get him for an hour because I would really like him to explain Amy Coney Barrett's
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thinking on the decision that SCOTUS made yesterday where Texas can't protect itself
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when the federal government doesn't protect it.
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This should be, I think the democratic part of this is sort of fascinating in that, you know,
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this idea that they had to just eliminate these these states.
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This is the party that is pitching to you that all they do is care about democracy wherever the chips may fall.
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And this is the party that eliminated the two states that the lead candidate lost.
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They talk about disenfranchising voters and how the Republicans are disenfranchised.
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There are congressional leaders in this process.
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You know, the one that just happened to rescue Joe Biden's campaign.
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I mean, they talk about Trump doing this stuff.
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These poor people in New Hampshire are doing a Democratic primary because they are required to by state law.
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And then they're just not going to give them any delegates for it.
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Because Joe Biden didn't like that he lost last time.
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Therefore, they get rewarded with the first primary.
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Does anybody notice that every time they accuse somebody of doing something, that's what they're doing?
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Does seem to happen over and over and over again.
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You know, Donald Trump, if he gets elected, he's going to try to put his opponents in jail.
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We all know that you're trying to take your opponent off the ballot.
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What form of democracy has one name on the ballot?
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What democracy claims someone is an insurrectionist when he's not ever, not just been tried and found guilty, not been tried, not even charged with that.
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And all of a sudden they just claim he is an insurrectionist without any legal anything.
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And they did it from day one, too, which is pathetic.
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They knew they could have charged him with insurrection.
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They didn't because they knew they would never win it.
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And then they just started saying it on television over and over again, hoping that they could use that later as the evidence to get him tossed off ballot.
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There was a lot of people on there who had no idea who they were.
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I'm like, I didn't even know there were this many candidates.
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Yeah, there's a lot of minor candidates that were able to qualify, especially in New Hampshire,
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because they knew Biden on the Democratic side wasn't going to be there.
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So, tell me, Tim, with the Democrats, do you hear any Democrat talking about, you know,
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I honestly, I mean, I feel like there's so few of them that I've talked to.
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I mean, I know Biden supporters that are like, I'm voting for Trump.
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I know most people that I know that voted differently in the last election, they're going towards Trump.
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And the other thing, too, is I haven't seen a single Trump sign.
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The only one I've seen is someone was stomping on it on the way to, on the way driving somewhere.
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I think it was a Trump sign, but I think they like took scissors to it or something.
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I think it's almost like everybody is almost afraid.
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Is it kind of like the Bubba effect on steroids?
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I feel like if you're a vote, if you're a Trump supporter, you're kind of a second class person.
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But I think we're all realizing we're the majority.
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And I think that's New Hampshire is a state that prides itself on justice, live free or die.
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Um, that's, that's something that most people generally like dive into.
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And, uh, I think that's, what's driving out people who voted for Biden, people who there's
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some, there's a lot of Nikki Haley signs, uh, everywhere in getting five to eight mailers
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I mean, millions of dollars, but New Hampshire sees that.
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I think that's, that's pissed a lot of people off.
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Think of the sheer amount of money that they've spent.
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And Trump spent nothing and all that money is coming from people that don't, uh, Democrats,
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And when you, I actually talked to one person today, five to eight mailers a day.
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And they're like, I haven't gotten any from any other candidate.
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They're literally just trying to buy New Hampshire.
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The one thing in New Hampshire, uh, is if you, if you get the sense that New Hampshire,
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someone's trying to buy New Hampshire, it may, it makes you angry.
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They're like the amount of money that they spend for these mailers, the amount of money
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And I'm voting just against that because that's not what I want for president.
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They're going to be beholden to all these people.
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You know, I, I, I think Tim, you're exactly right.
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And, and I think that's where Nikki Haley made her biggest mistake, taking money from
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I mean, even if it's establishment Republicans, you know, you can, you can live with that.
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I think, you know, people who outwardly want Democrats to win, giving you money.
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Like you got, you got to, you got to know most of that money to be fair to Nikki Haley
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So it's not necessarily something she could have rejected, but she could have been outspoken
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She was like more like, Oh, well I got this money.
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He doesn't like it is because he's not getting that money.
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But I went the vote quarter past seven and there were a moderate turnout, you know, that I voted
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here for 20 years and it's like 20, you know, it was good.
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But what surprised me is like when I went in, I'm an independent and I had to change to
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Republican and like on the Republican roster, there's like 20, 30 pages of 15, 20 names on
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And then when I had, when, after I voted, I had to go back and go back to independence.
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Now that's great because there's so many independence here that I think that it's good for Trump.
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So you don't think that people are switching to become a part of the Republicans who are
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actually doing some sort of shadow game and they're Democrats.
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Um, and what I have seen is that there's people out in front of the polls, uh, would, uh, write
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By the way, we should point out to people, if you're, if you're in New Hampshire, you're
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looking to write in Joe Biden, and this is true.
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You just have to write them in right under Vermin Supreme.
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So you have to find Vermin Supreme and under that.
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And Vermin Supreme, by the way, is a candidate known, uh, he's runs for office a lot.
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So just look for, you look below the person who has a boot on their head and that's where
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Doesn't that sound something like that you would ask for at a Dairy Queen?
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And by the way, you can write in Joe Biden's name if you're so inclined to do that.
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But I, wow, actually, I mean, pulling the lever for one is one thing actually having to write
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Doesn't that give you enough time to think, wow, this is crazy.
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Put your tinfoil hat on and humor me for just a minute.
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Um, I, I think, you know, all these military age men coming over the border getting paid.
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And I honestly think that they're being armed and trained in sleeper cells to go up against
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No, it's a hunch, but why would, when men go to war, they leave women and children at
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home and there's not a whole lot of women and children coming over the border.
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I mean, I see, um, at the Walmart in Robertsdale where they sit and wait for a bus and they're
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just, they fill out their baskets full of stuff while we're all struggling, but they just,
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Um, that that's just somebody, Annie thinking, seeing stuff and going, you know what?
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I think that means, uh, and, uh, and there's no evidence of, of any of that.
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I mean, it is, is a, I mean, look, you're right.
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Does not have any evidence to it, but I will say that a lot of people, um, it is reminiscent
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of a feeling that I do hear often online, right?
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Of people who are reaching for explanations because the world doesn't make sense.
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That's, and that's what happens when the world doesn't make sense.
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Uh, and the government or authorities tell you things that also don't make sense, then
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Um, Amy Coney Barrett voted with the Biden administration saying that Texas didn't have
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As the John Roberts, although I don't know that that's worth bringing up at this point,
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and that's why you didn't bring it up, but it is the notable.
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Uh, so you, you know, this isn't, this isn't, uh, like any other time in American history,
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there is no way to call 10,000, sorry, 10 million people coming over our border.
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It is the Chinese invasion plan for Russia, how to collapse them.
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Um, and for Texas to say, you're not protecting the border.
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Not to have the right to protect their own state and their own people.
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I haven't heard a good explanation on why that is, why that has to be that way.
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So we have Mike Lee coming on in just a few minutes.
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Uh, and we have to have a real, a real honest conversation because we're approaching times.
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We're in constitutional crisis every day on five, six, 10 different things in the news.
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I could go through the news end of the day and say constitutional crisis.
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Now it's like we're, we've got somebody printing up new constitutional crisis every day.
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I mean, you, I think you've heard this as well, Glenn, people saying in reaction to this SCOTUS ruling, what Texas should do is ignore it.
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And like, look, I see the motivation behind that.
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Ignoring the system is going to, is another way for, for chaos to reign.
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You know, you add a, a terrorist strike on top of this and people of Texas are going to say, uh, no, no more.
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Uh, and you know, while I don't want to become them, I do want to stand up for my country and I am at a loss for answers.
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Uh, I, I will tell you that I've, I've had some conversations recently about, okay, what do we do?
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And this is the first time in this whole thing that I think the, the black and white is more gray because I can't, can you answer that still?
00:35:46.300
I mean, other than I don't want to become them, how do you not do the right thing for the city state, the safety and the, and, and the Republic, not just the state of Texas, the whole Republic.
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If the federal government won't do what the law says they must do, if they won't do it, do, do we just allow it to happen?
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Yeah. I mean, look, we, we dealt with this back when Arizona passed a law to prepare themselves, uh, to protect themselves on the border and they were overturned by the Supreme Court.
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Look, you have the strength of the country has always been the constitution and the, the process.
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And I know, and that's been one of the reasons why we've hung around and the constitution's hung around for a long time, right?
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Look, there may be other ways to do these things.
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We're going to, we're going to ask this question to Mike Lee.
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I would love to hear, and I'd love to hear his argument on, on, on Amy Coney Barrett too.
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I mean, there may be a process reason I'm not getting there.
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What's her argument outside of just being wrong?
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So one of the best historians on the constitution and knowing the constitution inside and out, knowing what the founders wrote about, uh, what they believed and what we are supposed to do.
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I think he would have answers and he's coming up in just a few minutes.
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You know, in reading the arguments of what the Supreme Court said, the federal government was arguing that the razor wire makes it difficult for the federal government to do its job.
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But OK, so it makes it dangerous for them and it makes it dangerous for illegals.
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We have no idea what's coming across our border.
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I want you to listen to what some people who are just down at the border seeing border crosses and asking.
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If you are smart enough, you will know who I am.
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But you are really not smart enough to know who I am.
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Do we have anybody in Department of Homeland Security that is curious at all?
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Has anyone run his picture through a database to know who he is?
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Do we have to allow these people come in to come in if if the federal government wasn't responding and it was a military that was coming in with uniforms and there were 10 million of them?
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And if the government said, Texas, you can't do anything about it.
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When the government fails to do its job, does it mean that that job just isn't done?
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Mike Lee is here to answer some of these questions when we come back.
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Senator Mike Lee, because I will lead and not follow, I believe, not doubt, I will create, not destroy,
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because I'm a force for good, I'm a force for God, I'm a leader, and we can define, defy the odds.
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Because I need your help today in understanding the news and where we go from here,
00:45:28.720
because if it's not this, it will be something because we're facing constitutional crisis after constitutional crisis.
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And I'm not sure how to react, but I know there's a lot of people saying,
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this is out of line, we should ignore the Supreme Court, but that makes us them.
00:45:55.160
First, let's go over what the Supreme Court decided yesterday, Mike.
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Okay, so yesterday the Supreme Court issued an order, not an opinion, just a very brief order,
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undoing an order that was released by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit on December 19th.
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Now, remember, the Courts of Appeals are numbered throughout the country.
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And the Fifth Circuit on December 19th had issued an order in joining the Biden administration
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from taking down barriers put in place by the state of Texas.
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The state of Texas, wanting to make sure that they restore some semblance of the rule of law in their state,
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decided to put up these barriers along the border, say, we don't want to do this.
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The Biden administration started taking actions indicating its plans to take down the concertina wire
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So Texas brought suit against the Department of Homeland Security and others in the Biden administration
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and said, we want an injunction telling them, telling the Biden administration that may not take down these barriers.
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The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals on December 19th issued such an injunction.
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And immediately, the Biden administration went to the Supreme Court and filed an emergency application to vacate that injunction.
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And the operative portion of the order from yesterday is just found in a sentence.
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It's inclusive of a total of four sentences, but this one is the operative language.
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The December 19th, 2023 order of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit is vacated.
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Then there's a separate line that says Justice Thomas, Justice Alito, Justice Gorsuch,
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and Justice Kavanaugh would deny the application to vacate injunction.
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So with that, the Supreme Court of the United States just undid this.
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And what this tells us then is that it was Chief Justice Roberts, along with Justice Kagan,
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Justice Sotomayor, and Justice Jackson, who were in the majority on this.
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And that is all we know about their rationale, all we know about what happened.
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So all of a sudden, Texas, having won this round of litigation,
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the previous round of litigation in the Court of Appeals, is now sort of back to square one,
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And yet we don't have the analysis as to why or what this means,
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So, first of all, can you explain Barrett's joining the other side?
00:48:59.500
All I can do is offer conjecture, because there's no analysis.
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Hang on just a sec, before you go on, is that unusual that there was no analysis?
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It's not unusual, given the procedural posture in which they find themselves.
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In other words, this side of the Court's docket, the emergency applications docket,
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is itself something that the justices have to do as they're doing their other ordinary business,
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And because of the nature of it, it's a yes or no, up or down thing most of the time.
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But it is surprising, given the nature of this dispute and the complexity of and urgency of this,
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that we would have this, it's at least difficult to figure out what to do.
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So if I had to guess as to what her analysis might have been, and that of Chief Justice Roberts,
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it would be that they reached some kind of conclusion that, you know,
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We don't want to be perceived, certainly as justices, as playing only on the team of the political party,
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And therefore, I, we, speaking, you know, either as Justice Roberts or Justice Barrett,
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or both of them, we're going to side with the Democrats on this one so that we don't over-politicize this.
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But I really find that difficult to grasp that they would do it in that circumstance.
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I don't see an explanation that makes a lot of sense.
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Because I don't understand why it's a bad thing to have the state of Texas trying to protect the people of Texas
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from these swarms of people who are pouring across their borders without documentation
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and destroying property along the way, converting property as if it were their own,
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I don't understand what the compelling need is or what principle of law would be violated
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by the state of Texas trying to protect the people of Texas.
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The Constitution says that it is the federal government's job to protect the borders,
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In fact, they're enabling those people trying to come in,
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and they are enabling drug cartels, drugs coming over, killing our citizens, criminals coming over.
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They're enabling those who rape and sell into sex slavery.
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Texas, you don't have the right to protect your own borders.
00:52:02.540
If a military came over, let's say these 10 million people all had military uniforms,
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And it was clear this was an invasion by an army.
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Would they have the right to say to Texas or anybody else,
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you don't have the right to have a militia or, you know,
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call up your National Guard and push these people back?
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And specifically in that kind of circumstance, it wouldn't be.
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There are two separate provisions of the Constitution that tell us this.
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which says that the United States shall guarantee to every state a Republican form of government,
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and on application of a state, typically the legislature,
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So that's an affirmative obligation by the United States to protect each state from invasion.
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Now, there's also something that defends in the Constitution,
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a separate right of the state to stand up for itself upon being invaded.
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And that's found in Article 1, Section 10, Clause 3,
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which is a provision that tells the states a bunch of stuff that they can't do on their own
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but then contains a carve-out for circumstances in which a state is actually invaded.
00:53:47.160
Yeah, but the only difference in one scenario in war,
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the only difference is in these two scenarios is 10 million people are coming over not in uniform.
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simply because they're not organized formally as a military.
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We don't think of them, they are not a military.
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Throughout history, there have been instances of invasions of many countries around the world.
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They are being invaded by people who don't belong there
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and people who threaten to subvert the order of things and the rule of law as they enter.
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and the fact that the state of Texas feels the need to protect its own citizens from this
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puts Texas, in my view, in a very solid position.
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Now, I assume that for the four justices who dissented,
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that is, for Justices Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch,
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We're all still grasping to understand what the rationale of the majority was,
00:55:17.520
well, immigration is the thing that is done by the federal government,
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and it's not done by the state of Texas, therefore case closed.
00:55:29.340
Well, it doesn't answer the Article 1, Section 10,
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or the Article 4, Section 4 question that we just discussed.
00:55:37.660
it leaves the state of Texas in an untenable position.
00:55:50.240
So we have to start modeling these conversations
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and have them as rational, reasonable citizens of a republic
00:56:09.540
Um, because I think some questions need to be asked.
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you are the first responder in emergency situations.
00:56:29.720
It was the Carter administration that changed that
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the situation doesn't call for deadly violence.
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you have the perfect combination of man-stopping power
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um, you'll have to check on that in New York City.
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In fact, could you read Tucker Carlson's tweet,