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00:01:05.760 Glenn Beck.

00:01:07.820 You know, has anybody watched the movie 1984 George Orwell lately?

00:01:13.600 I mean, here's one.

00:01:14.760 Have you watched Game of Thrones?

00:01:16.160 Remember that scene?

00:01:17.140 I think it was in the first or second season where they strapped the rat cage to the guy's

00:01:21.020 chest.

00:01:21.400 It was like, hey, tell us where it is.

00:01:23.080 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:01:25.080 And the rat burrowed his way through the person.

00:01:27.400 Remember that?

00:01:28.400 Yeah, that's kind of an old timey version of 1984.

00:01:32.700 A vision of a world with authoritarian government that controlled every aspect of its citizens'

00:01:38.500 lives.

00:01:38.920 It was a brutal surveillance state.

00:01:41.600 It not only suppressed free speech, but it was in the business of actually changing the

00:01:47.800 meaning of words.

00:01:48.940 It was called newspeak.

00:01:51.700 And Orwell's fictional country was based on the anti-America, the exact polar opposite or

00:02:00.020 negative of America.

00:02:01.880 A reality our Constitution specifically protects us from, but also a world that Orwell knew was

00:02:09.540 very possible under the European system.

00:02:13.500 Take a look around you.

00:02:16.440 Everything in this modern, evolving and technological world.

00:02:20.480 The trend is toward Orwell, not freedom.

00:02:23.800 I won't mention places like Russia, as things like oppression, surveillance, censorship is

00:02:31.140 what they expect from their government.

00:02:33.680 But what is happening in the UK now is downright scary.

00:02:38.580 People like Tommy Robinson, he's getting arrested in the street for filming iPhone videos of Muslim

00:02:45.200 rape gangs as they are going into the courtroom.

00:02:48.240 Back in the summer, when people gathered around the hospital to protest the killing of another

00:02:54.460 baby, the euthanization of a baby, the UK police announced that they would be monitoring

00:03:00.820 Facebook and social media for anything critical of the government's medical decision.

00:03:08.420 I don't think it gets any more George Orwell than that, does it?

00:03:11.700 Now they've announced that if you live in the UK and you use the phrase, bringing home the

00:03:19.080 bacon, or the phrase, don't put all your eggs in one basket, that's going to be banned

00:03:25.440 as well.

00:03:26.440 Apparently, it's offensive to vegans who don't bring home the bacon, and Muslims who don't

00:03:33.520 like bacon.

00:03:34.340 An academic in the UK wrote recently with the need to do away with such offensive language.

00:03:42.680 And as ridiculous as it sounds, they're going to do it.

00:03:46.220 But this is the world of relativism, where there is no right or wrong.

00:03:51.380 Whether you can speak or not is all dependent on who is in charge of what is politically correct.

00:04:01.620 Whether something is right or wrong is relative to whatever random person or group thinks is

00:04:08.340 right or wrong, and you better hope that that group that thinks you're wrong never gets into

00:04:12.760 power.

00:04:14.540 Free speech is a God-given right.

00:04:20.540 But it may not be relative to an authoritarian oppressive police state.

00:04:27.240 And that's what's coming our way.

00:04:29.520 It could never happen here, right?

00:04:31.620 We're protected under the Constitution.

00:04:33.560 We have a right to free speech.

00:04:34.740 Not if you talk to most college students.

00:04:37.860 I'd like to argue that even though the government is limited in what it can do to us, we're already

00:04:43.980 giving up our rights freely, and we're not even realizing it.

00:04:48.100 See, we're not doing 1984.

00:04:50.400 We're doing Brave New World.

00:04:52.640 Those were the two competing visions.

00:04:54.680 One was done through happy pills and in advertisements.

00:05:00.140 And the other was through just this authoritarian state that would strap a rat cage to your face.

00:05:06.420 Well, they're both being done.

00:05:07.920 One's being done in China and one's being done here.

00:05:10.640 Is there a difference between banning a saying like bringing home the bacon and the current

00:05:17.640 discriminant re-platforming or de-platforming going on with companies like Facebook, Google,

00:05:24.360 and Apple?

00:05:25.820 The CEO of Apple, Tim Cook, spoke yesterday about how he feels about de-platforming and free speech.

00:05:33.420 Listen.

00:05:33.560 I believe the most sacred thing that each of us is given is our judgment, our morality,

00:05:42.360 our own innate desire to separate right from wrong.

00:05:48.900 Choosing to set that responsibility aside at a moment of trial is a sin.

00:05:55.040 So, he was talking about de-platforming and how not silencing voices is a sin.

00:06:06.020 No, remaining silent in the face of evil is evil itself.

00:06:11.640 Not silencing someone else.

00:06:15.400 Tim Cook's words, a sin, not mine.

00:06:19.040 It's a sin if they don't restrict free speech.

00:06:22.660 Now, these are the words that I would expect coming from, you know, the leaders of China

00:06:28.280 or Russia, not from a CEO living in the freest nation on the planet or what used to be.

00:06:36.260 Last December, Tim Cook spoke in China and told the Assembly that China's vision for the

00:06:41.060 Internet is, quote, a vision that we at Apple share.

00:06:47.160 Are you kidding me?

00:06:49.300 China's view of the Internet is ultimate censorship.

00:06:52.660 It is a tool for propagandists to fuel the police state.

00:06:58.620 This is the future of Silicon Valley, and it's the future that they foresee for us.

00:07:04.680 Orwell's nightmare could not be completed under our Constitution.

00:07:10.220 The government can't take away our rights as they do in places in the UK or in China.

00:07:14.680 That's why the corporations will do it.

00:07:18.120 The government doesn't have to.

00:07:19.560 We're giving our freedom of speech away freely to the overlords at Facebook, Google and Apple.

00:07:28.840 It's Tuesday, December 4th.

00:07:35.060 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:07:36.800 We welcome to the program Mr. Andrew Heaton, who is new and joining us from the blaze and has his own podcast.

00:07:51.500 Something's Off.

00:07:52.140 Something's Off with Andrew Heaton.

00:07:53.080 With Andrew Heaton.

00:07:54.380 Welcome, Andrew.

00:07:55.140 How are you?

00:07:55.260 Thank you, Glenn.

00:07:55.800 Thank you for having me.

00:07:56.540 Good morning to you.

00:07:57.140 Yeah, so I know you're a libertarian, and you and I disagree on several things, but we like each other, and we agree on most things, wouldn't you say?

00:08:05.360 Sure.

00:08:05.620 Yeah.

00:08:06.960 How are you feeling about the whole freedom of speech thing that's happening not only in England and China, but also here now in a different way?

00:08:18.160 I think that there's two things that are worth looking at.

00:08:21.320 There's two sides to it.

00:08:22.060 There's the legal side of it, which in the United States, we're pretty good legally in terms of freedom of speech.

00:08:26.280 That's not so much under assault, but there is a culture of freedom of speech, which I do think is problematic.

00:08:32.620 We're seeing that on college campuses.

00:08:35.220 We're seeing that in general where you're going to get in trouble if you say a particular thing, and we're kind of tightening the bandwidth of what we can discuss, and that I'm very much concerned about.

00:08:43.200 Yeah, everybody is.

00:08:44.340 I mean, if you are in college and you are taught that you have a right to silence someone, you're going to be the next generation that will change the rules.

00:08:53.760 Have you had Greg Lukianoff on your show before?

00:08:56.500 I'm having him on Friday.

00:08:57.760 He wrote a book called The Coddling of the American Mind, and I was reading through it.

00:09:01.120 And it was great.

00:09:01.660 One of the things I want to talk to him about, the book seems to get into, is we're both in media, and so it's difficult for me to determine, see, on college campuses, are college campuses more opposed to freedom of speech now, or are we just talking about it more?

00:09:16.560 And the book would indicate that quantitatively it is, in fact, they're disinviting more people.

00:09:21.320 Oh, yeah.

00:09:21.600 It seems to kind of kick off around 2013, and he's got some interesting theories as to why that is.

00:09:25.380 Yeah.

00:09:25.880 But I'm a libertarian.

00:09:27.900 I'm more emphatically a comedian.

00:09:29.920 And I would say, as a comedian, I think the two places that we should actually have freedom of speech.

00:09:34.020 Comedy's dead.

00:09:35.440 Comedy's dead.

00:09:36.100 Oh, nuts.

00:09:36.980 So should I become a gardener?

00:09:38.040 No, I mean, but listen, comedy, you watch television now.

00:09:42.040 Nobody's trying to do comedy.

00:09:43.360 There's a few people.

00:09:44.420 Everybody's going for clapter, not laughter.

00:09:46.400 That's true.

00:09:46.820 There's a lot of that.

00:09:47.940 They just want everybody to go, oh, yes, that's right.

00:09:51.840 Yeah.

00:09:52.020 I would say political satire for sure is in a slump right now.

00:09:55.860 Slump.

00:09:56.400 It is in a slump.

00:09:57.200 Yes.

00:09:57.740 There's a, yeah.

00:09:58.520 It's turning blue.

00:10:00.040 It's got Rick Mortis, a slump.

00:10:02.060 And it's funny, too, because it's not, when I tell people I do comedy, they go, you must love the Trump years.

00:10:07.880 And I'm like, no, no, this is not.

00:10:09.620 I mean, for one thing, from just from a practical standpoint, in terms of making jokes, you want to be able to heighten.

00:10:15.380 And so if if if President Trump is like, I don't know, trying to hit Rosie O'Donnell with golf balls from a battleship, and that's like the actual headline of the day.

00:10:23.960 Like, that's what he kicked his morning off with.

00:10:25.740 I can't go from there.

00:10:27.460 There's nowhere for me to go.

00:10:29.120 And so it's not easy.

00:10:31.400 It's tough right now.

00:10:33.480 Let me let me bring you back to China here for a second.

00:10:36.420 Chinese journalist Liu Hu was it was a guy who's always had trouble with the authorities.

00:10:43.340 He had been exposing corruption and wrongdoing in the government for a long time.

00:10:48.640 He's used to being hassled.

00:10:50.560 He's used to government find.

00:10:53.580 He's used to apologies that he has to make for forced apologies.

00:10:59.360 Nevertheless, he continued in doing what he was doing.

00:11:03.120 He persisted.

00:11:04.160 He persisted.

00:11:04.880 Nevertheless, he persisted, he persisted until one day in 2017, when he logged on to a travel

00:11:11.800 site and he couldn't book a flight anywhere because the site said he was not qualified.

00:11:20.760 Then later, he tried to buy a house.

00:11:23.820 What a surprise.

00:11:25.060 He wasn't qualified.

00:11:26.800 High speed train.

00:11:28.160 Nope.

00:11:29.240 Alone.

00:11:29.280 Alone.

00:11:30.200 Uh-uh.

00:11:31.580 And there was nothing he could do about it.

00:11:34.500 He couldn't shop at any store that he wanted to go into.

00:11:38.340 He was basically shut off from absolutely everything.

00:11:42.380 And there's now 7.5 million people on this list.

00:11:47.560 The dishonest person's subject to enforcement list.

00:11:52.480 This is all part of their their social credit score.

00:11:56.480 And China monitors absolutely everything their citizens do and think their political opinions,

00:12:04.480 their shopping patterns, their travel history, their Internet friends.

00:12:08.560 All of it.

00:12:10.740 Now, imagine a world here in America where you could no longer be able to buy or sell or

00:12:18.420 open a bank account, get a loan, use public transportation or get a job.

00:12:23.780 Imagine a world in China.

00:12:28.860 They are putting surveillance cameras up in the schools so they can constantly monitor

00:12:33.420 students.

00:12:34.140 Now, listen to this.

00:12:36.120 The surveillance cameras took data on the individual facial expressions and eyes and use

00:12:42.240 that information to create a running score on each student in class.

00:12:46.000 If a score reached a predetermined point, the system triggered an alert.

00:12:50.360 Teachers were expected to take action to talk to the student perceived to be a

00:12:53.780 overly disengaged or overly moody.

00:12:57.460 Now, this sounds like crazy dystopian stuff that only China would do.

00:13:03.640 May I remind you that that is exactly how Bill Gates designed and described Common Core, that

00:13:11.840 every child would have a screen in front of them with a camera monitoring their eyes so

00:13:20.280 they could see the blood pressure in their eyes.

00:13:23.040 They could see everything and engage, see when the student was engaged, when they weren't

00:13:28.180 engaged, except this was for the teacher's benefit.

00:13:31.760 This wasn't for the student.

00:13:33.260 This was.

00:13:33.960 And he said, over time, we'll be able to use that data to be able to figure out who slots

00:13:39.600 into what job so they can be fast track.

00:13:42.360 By the fifth grade, we can find out, you know what?

00:13:45.040 He's he's really going to be good at construction work.

00:13:48.200 And so he'll go fast track on construction work.

00:13:52.020 Now, this sounds, I guess, to some people like utopia.

00:13:55.780 To me, it sounds exactly like China.

00:14:00.280 What did you want to be when you wanted when you were growing up?

00:14:02.560 Oh, gosh, what did I want?

00:14:03.960 I've I'm still figuring that out.

00:14:05.560 But about 15 different things.

00:14:07.800 When I was a little kid, I wanted to be a scientist.

00:14:10.080 And then when I was in high school, I figured I would either be a politician, an actor or

00:14:15.100 a priest, which in Oklahoma, you can do simultaneously.

00:14:17.460 You can be all free if you live in Blanchard County.

00:14:20.680 So I was looking into that.

00:14:22.220 I I'm with you on China.

00:14:24.380 China is freaky.

00:14:25.740 And it's I think you kicked off the show with this comparison between Brave New World by Aldous

00:14:31.720 Huxley in 1984, which I think is great, by the way.

00:14:34.340 A lot of the time we only talk about 84.

00:14:35.820 We don't talk about about Aldous Huxley.

00:14:38.580 And we've we've been in the Aldous Huxley realm.

00:14:40.680 We still are.

00:14:41.540 Yeah, I think we're I think it's happening at the same time.

00:14:44.360 We've been arguing which one was going to happen.

00:14:46.480 Yeah, well, they're both.

00:14:47.520 They're both happening.

00:14:48.260 You have to sell it one way to us and another way to the Chinese.

00:14:53.680 They're so afraid right now.

00:14:55.500 They accept the cameras.

00:14:56.980 They're not.

00:14:57.980 They're so afraid of saying anything now.

00:15:00.120 They're all just saying, oh, no, this is great.

00:15:01.960 In China?

00:15:02.340 In China.

00:15:02.760 Yeah, that was.

00:15:03.500 So I right before I came over here and started working in the blaze, I was in I was in China

00:15:07.340 this summer for the China International Stand-Up Comedy Festival in Shanghai.

00:15:11.240 And I got to I got to finals, by the way, which is pretty good for a guy that doesn't speak

00:15:15.120 Mandarin.

00:15:15.420 But they they were very clear, like you cannot say anything about Tibet, Taiwan, Tiananmen

00:15:23.240 Square or any existing member of government, whether it's good or bad.

00:15:26.980 And they were and I didn't because it would have got the comedy club in a lot of trouble.

00:15:30.460 I don't know what would have happened to them.

00:15:31.520 I think they would have been canceled.

00:15:33.020 Like they would have shut the club down.

00:15:34.240 I don't know.

00:15:35.040 But you could you could sense that.

00:15:36.060 The interesting thing was, if I brought up something about genders or something, you

00:15:39.940 know, men and women are different.

00:15:40.740 I could tell that the audience was a little I was less worried about angering someone

00:15:44.500 there than places have been in America on a social level.

00:15:47.140 But when it got to anything political, even remotely, like at one point, I mentioned that

00:15:51.340 I couldn't access my email because they've they've outlawed Google over there.

00:15:54.440 They don't have Google.

00:15:55.100 They don't have Gmail.

00:15:55.960 They don't have Facebook.

00:15:57.000 They only have one government monitored app for all social media so that they can.

00:16:01.000 Well, until Google started helping them.

00:16:03.340 Now it's yeah, they're now it's back.

00:16:04.560 They're now over there.

00:16:05.420 But when I was there, it wasn't there.

00:16:06.940 And I mentioned that you could just you could hear everyone in the room just go and and get

00:16:11.080 very uncomfortable for fear of what was going to happen next.

00:16:14.280 But that is a that is a kind of I don't know what you call it, a prosperous totalitarian

00:16:19.680 state or an increasingly prosperous totalitarian state like the Soviet Union fell apart.

00:16:23.600 Right.

00:16:24.260 And and Gorbachev, who I like because he was a death knell to the Soviet Union, had sort

00:16:30.480 of banked on them being able to open up with freedom and let that happen.

00:16:34.400 And it fell apart.

00:16:35.840 China has gone the other way where they're like, well, we're going to give you some market

00:16:38.820 freedom, but we're going to keep this tight, tight, tight grip on all civil liberties.

00:16:42.660 We're going to keep this tight grip on censorship and everything else.

00:16:45.100 And you need to be in favor of the state at all times.

00:16:47.520 Well, they are not going to be able to they're not going to be able to reverse that now.

00:16:53.200 I mean, I don't know how the Chinese people get out of this now.

00:16:56.680 It would be real tough.

00:16:57.560 Are you following?

00:16:58.500 I imagine you're following the stuff happening with Uyghurs and Western China.

00:17:01.940 Two million.

00:17:02.640 Yeah.

00:17:03.020 Two million and thirteen hundred prison camps.

00:17:05.140 Yeah.

00:17:05.580 They're they're actively and basically.

00:17:07.720 Yeah.

00:17:08.480 Like the concentration camps.

00:17:09.740 Yeah.

00:17:09.900 And they're and they're and they're documented with biometrics.

00:17:12.720 I mean, like there are people talking about how and it's and this isn't I need to stress.

00:17:16.080 This is stuff like BBC.

00:17:17.760 And I mean, this isn't like I'm not reading fringe stuff.

00:17:20.000 This is folks that are, you know, very well documented that are being cataloged by the government.

00:17:25.520 And there's all sorts of things.

00:17:26.720 There is fringe stuff about like like organ transplants and stuff that we can get into.

00:17:30.280 But the actual.

00:17:30.680 Well, I want to tell you, did you hear about the guy?

00:17:32.880 We're going to take a quick break.

00:17:33.860 I have to take a break.

00:17:34.480 Did you hear about the guy that I think was last week or two weeks ago that said he I think you brought the story to the news and why it matters.

00:17:42.760 The guy who said he made a clone or no gene splicing.

00:17:46.500 That's what it was.

00:17:47.080 Oh, yeah.

00:17:47.240 That was the first designer baby.

00:17:49.100 Yeah.

00:17:49.540 That was in China.

00:17:50.300 Although I will say the Chinese government was opposed to it.

00:17:52.320 Yeah.

00:17:52.600 So but that did happen over there.

00:17:53.900 And I think that's coming.

00:17:54.960 You know what happened to him?

00:17:56.500 Nope.

00:17:57.000 Oh, OK.

00:17:57.760 I'll give that to you next.

00:17:59.200 Oh, nice.

00:17:59.560 OK.

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00:19:24.060 Welcome to the program.

00:19:25.520 We merged yesterday with CRTV, and we are creating the Blaze TV.

00:19:31.540 Now, this is something that I've talked about for a very long time because I saw deplatforming happen, you know, at Fox.

00:19:37.580 That's basically what they tried to do to me is deplatform through sponsorships.

00:19:43.380 Now, things are a little different.

00:19:45.660 They still try to do that.

00:19:47.600 They still do it.

00:19:48.340 But we have started a subscription base, which has been the anchor and has kept us afloat when there is trouble.

00:19:55.520 And we really appreciate that.

00:19:58.740 However, this is not just an individual problem.

00:20:01.900 They're going to pick us off one by one.

00:20:04.240 And so CRTV and I got together and we talked about merging.

00:20:08.260 And it's we've talked about it for a while, but we finally were able to put it together where it made sense.

00:20:13.920 And so now Blaze TV has everything that CRTV used to have now under the name of Blaze TV.

00:20:22.100 They have joined forces with us and we are thrilled, thrilled to have great partners.

00:20:28.680 And the idea is, is that we are going to build a platform that you really can't deplatform because it will be so robust and big and hopefully have so many subscribers that it doesn't matter what they do.

00:20:45.640 We ask for your support and your help in preserving the voices.

00:20:50.080 If you don't know who who is now on the Blaze TV, it's almost to the point of who's not on Blaze TV, but you can check it out at Blaze TV dot com and subscribe now.

00:21:06.440 We're so glad that you have joined us today.

00:21:08.240 There's a there's a couple of things that I want to share with you.

00:21:10.560 First of all, we were talking about China earlier and the police state that is becoming and we coupled it with with Tim Cook and the wonderful things.

00:21:18.940 He says that it's a sin not to deplatform people with with bad opinions.

00:21:27.400 That is that isn't Leviticus Glenn.

00:21:29.380 Is it you read it?

00:21:30.240 It's Leviticus subparagraph for really.

00:21:33.300 I didn't know that.

00:21:34.400 It says you're supposed to you're supposed to be platform people.

00:21:36.480 I guess, you know, there's there's rumors that there might have been like 15 commandments.

00:21:41.500 Either that or it was a Mel Brooks movie and he dropped the third.

00:21:44.140 I saw the documentary.

00:21:45.440 Yes, it was a good remake.

00:21:46.340 And so maybe it was on maybe it was like number 14 on the Ten Commandments.

00:21:51.560 But there was a story that you brought to the table on the world of the news and why it matters last week about a scientist who claims to have made a designer baby.

00:22:02.960 Yes.

00:22:03.440 And what what happened there was, you know, you've got you've got different types of genetic modification that are currently going on.

00:22:10.120 So right now, something that's legal and happening presently in the United States, most westernized countries is you will if you're doing in vitro fertilization, you'll have maybe eight viable embryos.

00:22:19.260 And they'll they'll go, well, this particular embryo has Down syndrome.

00:22:22.120 And so you most people won't choose that.

00:22:24.240 They'll go.

00:22:24.560 So there's kind of a process of elimination.

00:22:25.860 That's what already is on the table right now.

00:22:27.880 What he did was he went in and found a gene that is thought to control the protein by which the HIV virus enters.

00:22:37.600 And he preemptively removed this gene.

00:22:40.100 So it's not like there was a fundamental flaw with the embryos of these twins that were there.

00:22:45.040 There wasn't an existing problem that he was getting rid of.

00:22:47.020 He was basically trying to preemptively soup up the kids to give them a a harder, harder time contracting HIV.

00:22:57.480 So this is it's low level stuff.

00:22:59.100 But we have crossed that threshold into we are now actively proactively modifying people as opposed to just trying to change things that might.

00:23:06.060 So I want to get into this here in a second.

00:23:07.640 But first, let me tell you what happened to the science.

00:23:09.760 Let me give you an update.

00:23:10.880 And the last so the last I heard, I'll say there was massive.

00:23:14.480 And I'm kind of like I'm I'm very optimistic about transhumanism.

00:23:17.980 And I think we should be living on Mars with three heads.

00:23:19.620 And I'm all in favor of this stuff.

00:23:21.860 I want to have a robot wife.

00:23:23.420 And like I got my program.

00:23:25.680 I want to have like taste buds installed all down my throat so I could I could feel the food the whole time.

00:23:30.120 I think that would be great.

00:23:31.520 So I'm a taste buds would make you taste it all the way down, which I'm cool.

00:23:35.380 That sounds great.

00:23:35.960 I would love that.

00:23:36.500 I would like that even in my stomach.

00:23:37.820 It's stomach lying with taste buds.

00:23:39.340 It'd be great.

00:23:39.780 Well, yeah, so I'm all in favor of this stuff.

00:23:41.340 Yeah, he did have a very strong backlash from the scientific community and from the bioethical community and and from most most countries, many of which have signed on to a there's some sort of anti genetic engineering.

00:23:54.500 Yeah, no three headed baby thing.

00:23:56.640 Yeah.

00:23:56.820 And China was one of the signatories of that.

00:23:58.240 So China had also swung against him.

00:23:59.940 And he'd been kicked out of his university in southern China for three years.

00:24:03.380 This is the last I heard.

00:24:04.980 Well, he gave a speech to talk about this, you know, just a week ago, two weeks ago.

00:24:09.960 And and he hasn't been seen since.

00:24:13.020 And the Chinese said, we definitely have not detained him, which he didn't go to a Saudi Arabian concert.

00:24:18.840 Did he?

00:24:19.240 No, I would just don't do that, guys.

00:24:20.900 If you get invited to us, you're like, oh, I bet that's a fun cocktail party.

00:24:23.620 Don't go.

00:24:24.400 Yeah.

00:24:24.580 I don't I don't know if you speak you don't speak Mandarin, so I don't know if we definitely don't have him translates to.

00:24:30.880 Oh, yeah.

00:24:31.840 He's.

00:24:32.340 Yeah.

00:24:32.740 But I do think that I think that China will probably be the one that pushes that envelope, because I think China like, you know, there's the American dream, which is everybody has, you know, everybody gets a fair shot.

00:24:43.040 And like, you know, I leave a better life than my kids are and all these different things.

00:24:46.060 The China dream is China is amazing and it's much more collective in its mindset and it's much more statist in its mindset.

00:24:52.440 And so I would not be surprised if within the next 10 years, it's like, oh, well, there's, you know, we found a gene that helps math.

00:24:58.020 We're going to make this, you know, more available.

00:25:00.100 And oh, I think absolutely.

00:25:02.100 And they will do it and they will.

00:25:04.760 And that's when they will become the master race.

00:25:07.060 Isn't I mean, then Andrew Heaton's three headed Martian babies sound a lot better in America.

00:25:11.080 Right.

00:25:11.440 Now we want those kids with extra taste buds.

00:25:13.060 But don't you what do you think you do for that?

00:25:16.820 Because somebody is going to do that.

00:25:18.840 Somebody will do that.

00:25:19.980 And I don't want to be able to augment like that.

00:25:24.580 I want to be able to to live free and and and be natural.

00:25:29.900 You know, I don't want weaknesses taken.

00:25:32.620 I think I think this, you know, we're at the point because you grew up religious, right?

00:25:37.440 I did.

00:25:37.780 Yeah.

00:25:38.020 So you grew up, I'm sure, talking about, you know, the end of times, the mark of the beast.

00:25:42.800 Oh, that's that.

00:25:43.440 Yeah.

00:25:43.620 I'm from Oklahoma.

00:25:44.760 The left behind series is foreign policy in Oklahoma.

00:25:47.920 It's like, all right.

00:25:49.740 All right.

00:25:50.240 So I remember as a kid, we're talking about things like, you know, they're going to be

00:25:55.100 able to, you know, do anything with you and change, you know, change and make you into

00:26:00.620 superhuman, et cetera, et cetera.

00:26:01.920 And I remember people always saying.

00:26:04.240 God will stop us before we can do that.

00:26:07.040 You never heard that the God will stop us before we cross any kind of real line.

00:26:12.340 I have.

00:26:12.660 You know, I've heard that in terms of like, like we might cover the story later in terms

00:26:15.660 of climate change and things like that, there's sort of a hard line there.

00:26:18.540 And I, I, I don't think that I think that based, based on all prior evidence, God will

00:26:23.660 let us mess up a lot of things.

00:26:25.060 Oh, yeah.

00:26:25.580 I think he steps in.

00:26:26.660 So I don't like this idea that we're kind of on a kid leash.

00:26:29.240 No, I don't think so either.

00:26:30.300 I don't think so either.

00:26:30.980 I, I interpret that, however, as, uh, no, God's not going to stop you.

00:26:36.320 He's just going to, you'll just die out.

00:26:39.520 You'll just, cause can't you think in, we don't have any idea.

00:26:43.280 For instance, they're talking about now ridding the world of mosquitoes.

00:26:47.980 Did you see this story?

00:26:49.140 Great.

00:26:50.200 Sounds it.

00:26:50.900 Doesn't it?

00:26:51.380 Sign me up.

00:26:52.060 Where do I send the money?

00:26:52.820 I think it was Google or alphabet.

00:26:54.640 It's come up with something that they can now, um, put into the male mosquito, which,

00:27:00.160 uh, stops them from reproducing or whatever.

00:27:02.940 80%.

00:27:03.660 They've tried it in a couple of places.

00:27:05.280 Mosquitoes have gone down 80% in one trial.

00:27:08.380 We live in Texas, Glenn.

00:27:09.600 No, no, I, I'm very well aware.

00:27:11.980 I hate mosquitoes.

00:27:13.320 Yeah.

00:27:13.580 However, it talked about how this is going to be very lucrative and how it will save so

00:27:18.380 many people and blah, blah, blah.

00:27:19.820 But the last line was, however, um, the, uh, the, the biological effects of removing an

00:27:30.400 entire species like the mosquito.

00:27:32.820 We have not studied to definitely know the ramifications almost certainly be cascade effects from that.

00:27:40.800 I mean, like for one thing, bats are probably going to be more skinny.

00:27:43.760 So if you want a bunch of skinny bats flying around, which I do, I think American bats

00:27:48.180 will be slovenly and obese.

00:27:49.980 I go over the video games they're playing.

00:27:52.120 I think we need to, we just never, have you ever lived around bats?

00:27:54.980 Uh, like lots of bats?

00:27:55.940 Not yet.

00:27:56.320 I'm sure at some point I'll live under a bridge, but.

00:27:58.160 So I, wait, what?

00:27:59.660 I just did say, you know, I'm only 34.

00:28:01.600 I've got another.

00:28:02.320 You've got, you've got your bat section of your life to go.

00:28:04.820 So I, I live up in Idaho for, you know, for the summers and stuff, and we have bats everywhere

00:28:11.200 up there, uh, at least at my ranch and they'll crawl into the smallest of spaces.

00:28:17.420 Okay.

00:28:17.940 To keep warm.

00:28:19.260 And we heard this on the walls and we're like, Oh, this isn't good.

00:28:26.200 So we went out and we took the siding off of that wall.

00:28:30.380 We opened one piece of siding and Rafe still remembers.

00:28:35.300 This is the greatest day of his life.

00:28:36.740 It was the scene from Batman where they just, and the whole entire wall was full of bats.

00:28:46.540 So you say to me, it's probably really good insulation for your house.

00:28:50.340 I bet you saved on energy.

00:28:52.020 Yeah.

00:28:52.240 I mean, the collective beating heart is a little disturbing when you're going to sleep,

00:28:56.480 but is that the refrigerator?

00:28:57.460 No, it's a hundred bats preparing to draw blood.

00:29:00.380 On our farm.

00:29:03.000 Just because we can do things.

00:29:04.800 I don't know if we should do things.

00:29:07.320 Maybe we should sit around and talk about it a little bit more.

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00:32:59.540 Have you ever had fish syrup?

00:33:01.620 Of course.

00:33:02.180 That's how I get every morning with a hearty dust of fish syrup.

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00:33:08.740 Did you hear about the substitute teacher?

00:33:10.980 Yes, I did.

00:33:11.800 That has told the first-grade students that Santa is not real.

00:33:16.320 First of all, kids, not true.

00:33:18.280 Don't listen to this crazy person.

00:33:19.920 That's Pennsylvania right there.

00:33:21.300 Yeah.

00:33:21.760 Was that Montville, Pennsylvania?

00:33:22.880 Do you remember that right?

00:33:25.200 Yes.

00:33:25.800 No, New Jersey.

00:33:26.720 Oh, my bad.

00:33:27.140 It was New Jersey.

00:33:27.580 Okay.

00:33:27.760 So a substitute teacher.

00:33:29.560 Poor man's Pennsylvania, New Jersey.

00:33:30.980 A substitute teacher for first-grade students told the kids that Santa isn't real, then went

00:33:39.660 on and said, parents just buy presents and put them under the tree.

00:33:46.180 Oh, I wish that were true.

00:33:48.360 And reindeer can't fly.

00:33:51.760 Elves are not real.

00:33:53.040 And the elf on the shelf is just a pretend doll that your parents move around.

00:33:58.660 That covered a lot of ground in that third-grade math class.

00:34:02.300 What exactly?

00:34:04.180 This is first-grade.

00:34:05.280 First-grade?

00:34:05.680 Oh, yeah.

00:34:06.280 First-grade.

00:34:07.080 What?

00:34:07.860 I mean, that doesn't sound like a teacher having a bad day.

00:34:11.320 That sounds like an angry teacher.

00:34:13.820 Can I tell you about the time that I think I almost got fired?

00:34:16.700 And I'm going to make this G-rated.

00:34:18.660 Okay.

00:34:19.940 But I was in my colorful career.

00:34:22.820 I was a substitute teacher in the Deer Creek School District in Edmond, Oklahoma.

00:34:27.080 And I...

00:34:27.760 Well, they'll take anybody.

00:34:28.460 I subbed between, I think, first grade was the youngest I did up through high school.

00:34:35.180 And when I was subbing first grade one day, a kid came up and he went, Mr. H, Bobby said

00:34:40.300 the C word.

00:34:41.020 And I went, oh, no, Bobby, do not say the C word.

00:34:44.740 You shouldn't...

00:34:45.080 Yeah, he said crap.

00:34:46.920 Oh, yes.

00:34:48.000 Don't say crap, children.

00:34:50.080 But I was about to, like, gather...

00:34:51.480 Come here, children.

00:34:52.800 Here's a word I never want you to say.

00:34:54.660 Here's what it means.

00:34:55.540 Don't say this word, the C word that I'm about to utter.

00:34:58.540 And I, like, that...

00:34:59.540 I was so close to getting fired from that job, I think, if that had happened.

00:35:03.100 So, but you also...

00:35:05.880 Did you not tell children about being eaten by...

00:35:08.740 Yes.

00:35:09.520 Yeah, well, multiple things.

00:35:11.000 So, like, most substitute teaching, a lot of the time, the teachers don't want you to...

00:35:15.680 They don't want you to continue their lesson a lot of the time because they want to do

00:35:18.120 that, right?

00:35:18.500 So, they're kind of giving you...

00:35:19.700 A lot of the time, they're giving you busy work.

00:35:21.180 And so, for high school students, I could do that.

00:35:22.820 I would roll in and go, look, don't do anything that gets you in trouble or gets me in trouble.

00:35:27.340 One of you needs to play chess with me.

00:35:28.640 As long as we do that, I'm not going to make you do this ridiculous worksheet.

00:35:31.480 You can just go on your phones or whatever.

00:35:33.820 But, yeah, with the...

00:35:35.120 So, you were making sure us as parents were getting our money's worth.

00:35:37.740 Yeah, that's...

00:35:38.180 Yeah, okay.

00:35:38.620 You know, I can smell busy work.

00:35:40.900 All right.

00:35:41.180 And I'd make them do the busy work.

00:35:42.820 But they usually give me, like, an optional worksheet.

00:35:44.760 But with elementary school students, you know, we'd have something to do and we'd get through

00:35:48.760 it.

00:35:48.920 And then I'd go, okay, if we get through this worksheet, the rest of the day will be Velociraptor

00:35:54.400 Awareness Day.

00:35:55.720 And we would.

00:35:56.340 And, like, the kids would go...

00:35:57.400 They'd get on Wikipedia.

00:35:58.340 Apparently, Velociraptors are basically large, angry chickens, is what we learned in real life.

00:36:02.640 They were feathered and they were about knee-high.

00:36:05.340 You wouldn't want to tangle with one, but they're not as depicted in Jurassic Park.

00:36:08.380 That's from the research that I commissioned for second graders.

00:36:10.280 Really?

00:36:10.500 So, they were not...

00:36:11.300 They were not rip you apart.

00:36:12.920 That was not anatomically accurate.

00:36:14.280 Yeah.

00:36:14.460 Really?

00:36:14.880 Yeah.

00:36:15.320 They were not as nasty as that.

00:36:16.960 They really were just...

00:36:17.680 I'm not...

00:36:18.060 Well, I mean, like, a honey badger's not that big, but I wouldn't tangle with a honey badger.

00:36:20.900 Right.

00:36:21.080 Okay.

00:36:21.180 So, it's possible that a Velociraptor was really nasty.

00:36:23.440 It's just that the kind of, like, man-sized Velociraptor, that was a thing.

00:36:26.560 Okay.

00:36:27.060 Yeah.

00:36:27.300 So, they might have been smaller, vicious, and looked like a chicken.

00:36:30.820 Yes.

00:36:31.120 They were...

00:36:31.680 I think they were super angry chickens.

00:36:33.340 And I would also do...

00:36:34.760 I would, like, for fifth graders, I would go, okay, you know, we're done with the work.

00:36:38.360 Let's do a...

00:36:39.340 Let's do a mental exercise.

00:36:41.280 What do we do if zombies attack?

00:36:42.540 And I would really gear it up to, like, what do we do if there's a flood?

00:36:45.020 What do we do if there's a fire?

00:36:46.020 And then, like, okay, zombies attack.

00:36:47.200 What do we do?

00:36:47.840 And, you know, got those kids to start thinking about that.

00:36:50.460 I actually think this is a good teacher.

00:36:52.680 Thank you.

00:36:53.060 I mean, I think our teachers are so trapped in the box that they have to do it a certain way.

00:37:01.200 They have to follow this.

00:37:02.660 No.

00:37:03.160 A good teacher is somebody who makes it theirs, you know?

00:37:07.600 And, you know, if you're going to use Santa as an example, that's great.

00:37:11.360 Don't go there.

00:37:12.280 But, you know, use Santa as an example.

00:37:13.980 Or if you use motivation for, you know, Velociraptor Awareness Day, I think that's great stuff.

00:37:19.560 The kids were jazzed.

00:37:20.560 I would also, when we were walking to the computer room, I'd say, okay, you have to be quiet,

00:37:24.580 but I want every kid to act like a Tyrannosaurus Rex.

00:37:27.320 So there'd just be this line.

00:37:28.420 I think this is what got me in trouble with other teachers, is you see a line of children

00:37:31.640 in various stages of weird, angry faces while walking in dead silence.

00:37:35.580 I think that is fantastic.

00:37:36.020 Fantastic.

00:37:37.280 All right.

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00:38:39.700 Glenn Beck.

00:38:42.340 Forbes recently described student loan debt as a $1.5 trillion crisis, adding that student

00:38:51.600 loan debt is now the second highest consumer debt category behind only mortgage debt, and

00:38:57.080 higher than both credit cards and auto loans.

00:38:59.420 It's affecting 44 million borrowers in the U.S.

00:39:04.280 That is, this is outrageous and bone crunching.

00:39:07.440 There's also the cultural effect that having, that college is having, the indoctrination of

00:39:12.220 young people that are being subjected to.

00:39:14.920 More and more powerful people now are starting to recognize that college is an institution

00:39:19.100 that has real problems.

00:39:21.360 Last Friday, Peter Thiel gave a keynote speech at the Intercollegiate Studies Institute's

00:39:28.360 Collegiate Network Editors Conference.

00:39:30.820 Wow, that's a mouthful.

00:39:32.040 He told a room full of students, quote, universities today are as corrupt as the Catholic Church

00:39:38.260 of 500 years ago.

00:39:40.100 He's exactly right, and I don't know, I don't know how the universities don't see that they

00:39:46.300 have become the Catholic Church, and anyone who has a different idea is Galileo.

00:39:52.300 He says, at some point, if it's 100 to 0, you start to suspect that you're in North Korea.

00:40:00.380 Does the unanimity mean that you've gotten the truth, or does it mean that you're in a

00:40:05.960 totalitarian state?

00:40:07.980 We have this illusion that all sorts of important decisions have been decided.

00:40:12.780 He added, we are not on the losing side of history.

00:40:16.060 It's the other side that's on the losing side.

00:40:18.500 The Reformation is going to happen, and it won't come from within, but without.

00:40:25.420 Thiel now has actively worked to bring about the change that he's been talking about here.

00:40:30.240 The lawsuit he led against Gawker helped topple their empire, and he also created the Teal

00:40:37.240 Fellowship, which gives $100,000 to young people who want to build new things instead of sitting

00:40:43.420 in a classroom.

00:40:45.100 The idea that we're on the losing side is a form of psychological warfare, he said, and

00:40:50.540 he's right.

00:40:51.620 We're not on the losing side, not in the slightest.

00:40:54.260 We're on the up and up.

00:40:55.900 Things are going to get worse for the old institutions.

00:40:59.380 And better for the people.

00:41:02.060 It's Tuesday, December 4th.

00:41:11.540 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:41:13.180 We are truly thrilled to announce yesterday the merger of CRTV and The Blaze, now The Blaze

00:41:26.420 TV, and one of our hosts is Ben Ferguson, host of The Ferguson Files, a millennial who

00:41:33.260 has a lot of important things to say and to be heard.

00:41:36.780 Welcome to the program, Ben.

00:41:37.720 How are you?

00:41:38.140 Nice to be with you, man.

00:41:40.420 It's always a pleasure to chat with you.

00:41:42.500 We finally get to work together, which I'm really excited about, and I feel like we've

00:41:47.960 worked together for years because we've always been on the same radio station where I've been

00:41:52.380 working, whether it's in San Antonio or Memphis or Dallas, and it's nice to actually get to

00:41:57.120 work with you on this new venture, which is going to be awesome.

00:41:59.820 Well, it was funny because you were here, and we were talking about hiring you for some things,

00:42:05.360 and at the same time, CRTV reached out.

00:42:08.160 What you didn't know, you were deciding between the two of us, what you didn't know, we were

00:42:11.940 both kind of talking to each other, going, you take him, we'll take you.

00:42:17.160 Between the two of us, we couldn't tell you.

00:42:19.360 One way or another, we're all going to be working together, Ben.

00:42:22.660 So it's good to have you.

00:42:25.900 Good to have you.

00:42:26.480 And I'm pleased to be working in the same company with you.

00:42:29.100 And so, Ben, let's talk.

00:42:30.920 Go ahead.

00:42:31.700 Go ahead.

00:42:32.360 No, I'm just going to say, it's going to be a lot of fun.

00:42:34.140 I mean, there's so many different people that I've heard from that have just been talking

00:42:38.120 about how they're loving the fact that they can get raw and real content without spin

00:42:44.200 from people on their real passions in life.

00:42:47.300 And that's the thing that I've enjoyed the most and why I hope a lot of people that are

00:42:51.740 listening will take a look at what has been built now into something that's a massive platform.

00:42:56.920 So come on and join us.

00:42:58.120 It's going to be a lot of fun.

00:42:59.100 I couldn't believe CNN actually led the story yesterday with one of the biggest mergers

00:43:04.100 in conservative media history.

00:43:08.100 And it is.

00:43:09.700 I don't think people understand how much talent is here and that we're still looking to partner

00:43:16.480 with more people.

00:43:17.520 And I think we're going to build a platform where these voices are safe.

00:43:22.520 And also, we're going to save America a lot of money here because it's $9.99, where if

00:43:30.340 you had subscriptions to both, you were already paying $20.

00:43:34.900 Now you're paying $10.

00:43:35.920 And that's without any kind of discounts.

00:43:38.920 So, Ben, let's go ahead.

00:43:42.200 I'm sorry.

00:43:42.760 No, I was just going to say, I've always thought that we're always stronger together.

00:43:46.660 And when the more conservative voices work together instead of competing against one another or

00:43:52.140 trying to say, oh, I'm better than so-and-so.

00:43:53.900 I got into this business, as you know, when I was really young.

00:43:56.880 I started radio when I was 12.

00:43:58.620 And I always looked up to you and to others in the business as not competitors, but as

00:44:04.040 being at the forefront and talking about this.

00:44:07.120 And I think that's one of the cool things that's happened with this younger generation

00:44:11.220 of conservatives.

00:44:12.660 I mean, I say younger.

00:44:13.400 I'm now 37.

00:44:14.780 Gosh, I'm getting old, Glenn, which means you're really getting old.

00:44:17.360 I just want to put that.

00:44:17.680 I know.

00:44:18.060 Thank you.

00:44:18.780 Thank you for that.

00:44:19.460 But there's a lot of younger people now that we're not as competitive.

00:44:23.440 It's more about, OK, how can we work together?

00:44:25.960 How can we help one another out?

00:44:28.420 How can we get the message out there?

00:44:30.960 And I'll give you a great example.

00:44:32.400 This morning, I was getting ready for the Ferguson file, and I was looking at what the

00:44:35.880 Democratic National Committee chairman had to say on MSNBC.

00:44:39.840 And he said that dreamers are every bit Americans as my three U.S.-born kids.

00:44:47.760 And it's just not true.

00:44:50.760 I don't hate dreamers.

00:44:52.260 I think there needs to be some sort of pathway for some people that were brought here against

00:44:57.000 their will at no choice of their own with parents.

00:44:59.940 I have compassion for people that were brought here at a young age, and it was not their choice.

00:45:05.000 Their parents did it.

00:45:06.260 But to come out there and say that a non-American citizen is the same as an American citizen,

00:45:12.640 and this is the platform that the chairman of the DNC is doing, and not just that.

00:45:16.340 And he also said, I think it's an economic imperative to allow illegal immigrants into

00:45:23.220 this country, implying that somehow America cannot make it without illegals.

00:45:28.960 You look at this message, and it's resonating with a lot of younger people who say, yeah,

00:45:33.540 you know what?

00:45:34.400 Maybe we are too prideful as Americans.

00:45:36.800 Maybe we are too boisterous as Americans.

00:45:39.200 Maybe we think too much of ourselves.

00:45:40.460 Maybe we don't need to be this, we are better than other people.

00:45:44.920 We need to be more kumbaya, and being an American is almost a shameful thing, and that's the

00:45:50.300 new message of the Democratic National Committee.

00:45:52.720 And they're going to be trying to implement this for the next two years in Washington,

00:45:55.840 in the House.

00:45:56.620 And they're going to tell you that without these illegal immigrants, without the dreamers,

00:46:01.920 our economy will blow up.

00:46:04.700 And I'm looking at this going, okay, you have unemployment rates at historical lows of my

00:46:09.500 lifetime.

00:46:10.260 You have all-time lows among Asian Americans, Hispanic Americans, African Americans with

00:46:14.920 unemployment numbers.

00:46:16.920 We've got millions of people off of food stamps in this country.

00:46:22.200 Don't look at me at the same time and tell me that our economy is going to be destroyed

00:46:26.180 if I don't give you illegal immigrant labor in this country.

00:46:30.020 That is just a false narrative.

00:46:32.620 So, Ben, how is it that the Democrats think that they can say to now Europe, John Kerry,

00:46:42.340 Hillary Clinton, going over and saying to Europe, wow, this mass immigration thing that we were

00:46:47.580 all for, eh, that really screwed you guys up.

00:46:50.360 That was a really bad thing.

00:46:51.540 You shouldn't have done that.

00:46:52.580 How are they saying that at the very same time they're telling us we should be doing what

00:46:59.280 Europe did?

00:47:01.140 Right.

00:47:01.680 It's do as I say, not as I do.

00:47:03.260 It's this.

00:47:03.740 And I think what it really comes back down to is Democrats understand that this is not

00:47:08.680 about what's good for our economy.

00:47:10.220 This is about finding people that you can get to vote for you who will be dependent on

00:47:15.360 the government.

00:47:16.920 And the stronger the American economy is, I think the worse off it is for Democrats, because

00:47:21.700 the Democratic platform and what they have to offer is one that says to you, you cannot

00:47:27.420 do it without us, the government.

00:47:30.280 You cannot survive without the government.

00:47:31.880 You cannot go to college without the government.

00:47:33.440 You can't get a loan without the government.

00:47:34.940 You can't buy a house without the government.

00:47:36.940 Without us, you cannot succeed.

00:47:39.760 When you have Americans that are employed, that are making money, that are paying their

00:47:43.200 own bills, that are living what I would refer to as the actual American dream, it hurts

00:47:50.500 the Democratic Party.

00:47:51.780 How do you go out there and campaign against you have a great job and your kids are getting

00:47:56.120 a good education and you're saving for retirement?

00:47:59.560 It's very hard to do when what you're offering is despair and desperation relief.

00:48:05.960 That's why Jesse Jackson, in a minute when he said it, said that, you know, it's an honor

00:48:10.420 to be a food stamp president to Barack Obama when he had so many people on food stamps.

00:48:14.420 They believe that because without having people dependent on them, they lose voters and they've

00:48:20.840 seen that.

00:48:21.400 And so now they're saying, OK, how do we get new voters to vote for us when an economy

00:48:26.300 is doing well?

00:48:26.960 The easiest way to do it is to import voters who you can then say, I just gave you something.

00:48:34.360 I gave you citizenship.

00:48:35.560 I gave you food stamps.

00:48:36.820 I gave government aid.

00:48:38.140 Those evil Republicans didn't want you here.

00:48:40.240 They treated you like you were evil people, which, again, as a conservative, I don't blame

00:48:46.120 any person for trying to come to America.

00:48:48.200 I believe that America is the greatest country in the world.

00:48:50.980 I don't blame anyone that's in Venezuela or Honduras or Mexico for wanting to come into

00:48:55.320 America.

00:48:55.880 All I'm asking is to do the same thing that you demand of me when I come visit your country

00:49:01.320 or if I want to come live in your country.

00:49:03.440 Do it the legal and the responsible way.

00:49:06.580 And what the Democratic Party has said this morning, and this is the chairman saying this,

00:49:09.840 he's saying to the American people, it's an economic imperative to let these people in.

00:49:13.960 We will not survive without them.

00:49:15.580 He also said it's a moral imperative.

00:49:17.040 And again, it's false equivalency where his words, dreamers are every bit Americans as

00:49:22.960 my three U.S.-born kids.

00:49:24.860 That is not a fact.

00:49:26.200 It's not actual.

00:49:27.220 It's not reality.

00:49:28.360 It's wrong.

00:49:29.300 But when you can grab the 40 and under crowd in this country and get them to believe this

00:49:33.880 and also feel shame for living in a great country or being prideful in the laws that have made

00:49:40.020 this country great, you can change all this in one generation.

00:49:44.080 And the majority of my friends are leaning towards the Democratic Party.

00:49:47.620 They don't like the Republican Party, and it's terrifying.

00:49:50.500 Let me ask you this, Ben.

00:49:53.800 If you look at what's happening right now, you have the climate change crowd.

00:49:59.580 Eighty percent of Europe buys into it.

00:50:02.840 Eighty percent of France buys into it and think they have to do something.

00:50:06.240 However, once the state starts to impose the taxes that are going to be required, you have

00:50:12.620 riots and they're starting to spread all over Europe.

00:50:15.760 France is practically a war zone.

00:50:17.960 You have mass immigration over in Europe.

00:50:21.440 When you see this, it's caused all kinds of violence all over.

00:50:26.180 And really, the beginnings of a loss of country, you couple that with massive spending and you

00:50:34.280 see the collapse of Europe.

00:50:36.080 You see the collapse of Venezuela.

00:50:38.400 Marxist principles don't work.

00:50:40.480 You're seeing those things.

00:50:41.880 When you put all of these together, are the people who are still saying, no, I'm telling

00:50:48.560 you, socialism will work and we need mass immigration and we need to open our borders

00:50:52.640 and we need these high taxes on climate change because it'll be fine.

00:50:58.540 Are they just slipped into some utopian dream world?

00:51:02.820 Or or do they do they know this would collapse?

00:51:07.140 I think, yeah, I think it goes back to that issue of it all sounds great until it actually

00:51:13.520 is implemented.

00:51:14.440 I mean, let's let's just go back to France.

00:51:16.780 You know, people I even saw people kind of mocking in the media, you know, that people died

00:51:22.000 over a gasoline tax in France.

00:51:24.520 And the question I say is, well, were these people willing to die over a gas tax?

00:51:28.280 No, the people that died were willing to die over a government that had inflicted decades

00:51:35.600 of policies that put the government ahead of the people.

00:51:39.680 That's why three people died.

00:51:41.300 It was not because of a simple tax increase.

00:51:45.280 That's not why they died.

00:51:46.700 It wasn't because of diesel tax increase of 16 percent, which is what the Yellow Vest

00:51:52.900 Movement, you know, basically is about.

00:51:55.600 But it's much bigger than that.

00:51:57.360 These people were willing to risk their lives because they lived under a government that

00:52:01.400 put the government first, the citizens second, and they were starting to hurt.

00:52:06.240 And it was hurting the poorest, which, by the way, they sold these policies that it was

00:52:10.860 going to help the poorest the most.

00:52:12.620 But when you start running out of other people's money, when you start having an economy that

00:52:16.940 can't keep up with the demands of the government spending, you then get what we have now

00:52:22.140 seen blow up in France, where you have three that are dead, you have 263 plus that are

00:52:28.420 injured and many more arrested.

00:52:30.360 And now the president's trying to do anything he can to get this back under control.

00:52:34.180 And look at what he also did here.

00:52:36.700 He didn't say, I'm not going to have the tax increase.

00:52:40.600 What he said was, is I'll put a six month moratorium on it, hoping that the people that

00:52:46.200 got organized, that started rioting, will go back to their lives, and then they can slip

00:52:51.520 it right back in.

00:52:52.860 They have no intention in France or any of these other countries to basically truly change

00:52:58.980 the way they're doing business.

00:52:59.980 What France has said is, OK, we'll freeze this tax hike until you guys focus on something

00:53:05.040 else.

00:53:05.480 We'll freeze it long enough that you protesters will go home, that your yellow vest will somehow

00:53:09.840 disappear in your closet.

00:53:11.000 And then we can go back to doing exactly what we did before.

00:53:15.200 And I say this to not just the people of France, I say to the people of America, let's hope

00:53:20.160 the politicians actually listen to people and not go back to their own ways.

00:53:23.960 I do think they're going to go back to their own ways.

00:53:26.280 But what I will say is, is this is where we better pay attention and stand up to our government

00:53:31.020 and make it clear that you're taking too much from us.

00:53:34.980 You're spending too much of our money.

00:53:36.640 I mean, I think the biggest issue facing my is going to be in my lifetime outside of

00:53:40.620 national security and terrorism is going to be our trillion dollar deficits.

00:53:45.400 At some point that note, you're going to have to pay it off.

00:53:49.380 The government has record amounts of tax dollars are bringing in while also spending more.

00:53:55.920 There's never enough money that the government in this country and I believe in any other

00:53:59.740 country will ever get in from its citizens that they say we don't need any more.

00:54:04.120 It will never happen because governments inherently, I believe, are evil in the sense that they

00:54:11.320 always want more for their projects and they don't put the citizens first.

00:54:16.040 And that includes our government.

00:54:18.120 Ben Ferguson from the Ben Ferguson Show and the Ferguson File now on Blaze TV.

00:54:23.500 Always good to talk to you, Ben.

00:54:24.740 Best of luck and good to be working in the same company.

00:54:27.340 Finally.

00:54:28.040 Hey, man.

00:54:28.500 Thanks for having me.

00:54:29.360 It's always a pleasure to chat with you and look forward to doing a lot more.

00:54:31.760 You got it.

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00:55:58.400 They're now talking about delaying that until Christmas.

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00:57:06.920 We are joined by Andrew Heaton today, who is also part of Blaze TV.

00:57:16.120 Something's off with Andrew Heaton.

00:57:17.920 Kind of a funny look at the news of the day and some of the other things.

00:57:21.500 Welcome.

00:57:21.880 And I have, as you can see, pushed Stu out of the co-pilot chair.

00:57:26.460 Stu is now dead to us.

00:57:27.940 All hail Heaton.

00:57:29.040 No, I think he's just on vacation.

00:57:31.020 Yeah, you say that.

00:57:32.040 But this has been a house of cards scenario I've been planning for a couple of years now.

00:57:35.920 He thinks he's on vacation now.

00:57:37.480 All right.

00:57:37.760 Okay.

00:57:38.580 All right.

00:57:40.640 Andrew, we have a few things to talk about.

00:57:44.380 I want to talk to you about climate change and what's happening over in Europe.

00:57:49.100 First of all, where do you stand on climate change?

00:57:51.020 I think it's happening.

00:57:52.080 I think we're contributing to it.

00:57:53.660 I would like everybody to sit down and come up with solutions to it.

00:57:56.980 This is something I think is lacking right now from discourse is where just we're kind of arguing about whether it's happening or not.

00:58:05.280 And there's just a lot of, like, you called me this, they called me that going on.

00:58:08.440 And I think that, like, I think that the whole thing would benefit from having everybody sit down.

00:58:12.260 There's a lot of things that would benefit from a free market environmentalist perspective.

00:58:17.620 Free market.

00:58:18.700 Yeah.

00:58:19.120 Yeah.

00:58:19.420 Well, we'll get into it in a second.

00:58:21.200 As long as it's free market.

00:58:22.840 Yeah.

00:58:23.240 Free.

00:58:23.740 Pro market.

00:58:24.360 I don't know how you want to say it.

00:58:25.120 But, yeah, there's a way to do this.

00:58:26.500 The government coming in and having a, you know, a carbon tax is not necessarily the best of ideas.

00:58:31.840 We'll get into that when we come back.

00:58:36.060 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:58:37.740 You know, I think that this week is the first week that I can say the chalkboard that I hit for over a year at Fox before I left,

00:58:51.200 that the Arab Spring would lead to the destabilization of the Middle East.

00:58:57.420 It would create a caliphate.

00:58:58.760 It would cause chaos and spread to Europe, which would destabilize Europe.

00:59:04.100 The right and the left extremes would begin to work together, not as if they're calling each other and planning things together.

00:59:10.360 They'll just see a mutual opportunity to take Europe, and it would spread to the U.S.

00:59:17.520 I think we're done with that chalkboard.

00:59:19.700 It's been, what, nine years, eight years?

00:59:22.420 But I think we're done.

00:59:23.680 I think that now has all been fulfilled.

00:59:26.100 And you're seeing the destabilization and the right and the left working together now in Europe.

00:59:33.860 And Jason Buttrell is with us, and he can give us the update on what we covered yesterday at 5 o'clock on the Blaze TV.

00:59:42.700 Yeah, and just to talk about, you know, numbers, like, I'm just, this floors me.

00:59:50.900 Emmanuel Macron's updated approval rating is now 25%.

00:59:54.840 Okay, now you brought something up, and I forgot that I even said this, but when Macron was elected,

01:00:01.340 I had said, you have hardcore communists and hardcore fascists, and the people voted, I don't remember what the percentage was.

01:00:11.340 It was a huge percent.

01:00:12.960 Over 40%.

01:00:13.760 Over 40% voted for those two.

01:00:15.620 And so they wanted hardcore solutions.

01:00:20.620 And then Macron gets in, and he's kind of just milquetoast nobody, and is just another empty suit of a politician and a media kind of circus.

01:00:34.700 And he wasn't going to do anything really meaningful except keep the status quo.

01:00:39.000 And I said at the time, that's a recipe for disaster.

01:00:41.740 And always, when we talk about this, always think about how this applies in the parallels to the United States.

01:00:49.020 Yep.

01:00:49.440 Macron on the left would be the Clintons, the establishment.

01:00:54.480 He would be Jeb Bush on the right.

01:00:57.780 Something that you know nothing is going to come of this.

01:01:00.200 It's going to be everything that we've had for the past decade plus.

01:01:03.140 This is French vanilla.

01:01:04.380 This is French vanilla.

01:01:05.500 Yes.

01:01:06.160 Yes.

01:01:07.440 Exactly right.

01:01:08.240 So that, I'm going to play the, when I was watching the French election, I was worried about the extreme right and the rise of populism in France.

01:01:18.440 Me too.

01:01:18.780 So I was rooting for Macron.

01:01:20.100 And it sounds like you.

01:01:20.760 No, no, no, no, no.

01:01:22.080 I was too, but it wasn't going to solve anything.

01:01:24.300 Gotcha.

01:01:24.840 Okay.

01:01:25.200 Because you have, you're at a tipping point.

01:01:27.600 And America has reached this to some degree.

01:01:31.360 It is the same thing that's happening over in Europe that is happening over here that gave us Donald Trump.

01:01:36.360 And that is a media and a political ruling class that is asking you to deny reality.

01:01:43.140 Okay.

01:01:43.960 Islamists, Islamists, there's no such thing as Islamists.

01:01:47.700 That's fine.

01:01:48.660 Everything is fine.

01:01:49.540 Their culture is even better than ours.

01:01:51.580 No, no, excuse me.

01:01:52.640 It's not.

01:01:53.740 It's not.

01:01:55.520 Islam, not a problem.

01:01:57.840 Muslims, not a problem.

01:01:59.620 Islamists, that's a problem.

01:02:01.360 And there is a difference.

01:02:02.860 And you can't tell me that the people who are marching in the streets of the UK saying death to the police and down with the UK who are just new immigrants from Pakistan is a good thing.

01:02:14.640 That's not a good thing.

01:02:16.680 And so you're asked to deny reality.

01:02:20.520 The media is going right along with it.

01:02:24.700 Meanwhile, the people in power are getting richer and richer and more and more powerful.

01:02:29.040 And they're completely disengaged from the streets.

01:02:33.000 So what do they do?

01:02:34.820 Because they don't have an American understanding of the right, which is small government.

01:02:40.520 They only really have the government has to tell us what to do.

01:02:44.360 So it's going to go fascist or communist one way or another.

01:02:48.260 They get this milk toasty guy in between who is kind of a progressive.

01:02:53.520 Well, they're done with that.

01:02:55.420 The French people are done with that.

01:02:57.420 So it's only a matter of time before he's he's out.

01:03:00.020 And that's what we were looking at.

01:03:01.300 We were like, if almost half your country voted for far right or far left politicians and they put in French vanilla, then what are they going to do when you get more vanilla over the next four plus years?

01:03:14.500 It's only going to grow those bases.

01:03:15.980 It's only going to grow.

01:03:17.000 And that's what we would have seen here.

01:03:18.880 You know what I mean?

01:03:19.620 So we weren't really worried about Macron.

01:03:21.540 We were worried about what comes next.

01:03:23.120 And so just just just a really quick, the update today on the protest situation.

01:03:29.060 So Macron and the prime minister of France called the organizers for this for this movement to come together today, which this meeting already happened.

01:03:39.380 And if they would, he would suspend this this fuel tax by six months.

01:03:44.960 So that was his offer that got them to the negotiating table.

01:03:48.480 Apparently, whatever happened once they were in that room did not satisfy them.

01:03:53.120 And so they all left and said, OK, it's on for next Saturday and it's going to be worse than last weekend, which was by far the worst since these have happened since it began on November 17th.

01:04:04.800 So these organizers have been kind of hard to track down.

01:04:08.940 For one, it seemed kind of very unorganized.

01:04:11.680 And now everyone is jumping and piling.

01:04:14.260 It's been a dogpile of people wanting to jump in on this movement.

01:04:18.500 This is this.

01:04:19.400 This is the right and the left come together.

01:04:22.320 It's not that they're working together.

01:04:24.920 They're just seizing the opportunity of unrest.

01:04:28.000 Exactly right.

01:04:28.740 And so you've got Marine Le Pen with the National Front.

01:04:32.820 Right.

01:04:33.400 Bad guys.

01:04:34.240 We don't want them.

01:04:35.000 They should not have represented.

01:04:36.120 They should not have been at CPAC.

01:04:37.340 It was absolutely just they were ridiculous.

01:04:40.220 Outrage.

01:04:40.700 Why were why were French French right wingers at CPAC?

01:04:44.320 Yeah.

01:04:44.460 Thank you.

01:04:45.180 Marine Le Pen.

01:04:46.140 The new it girl for because of because of Bannon.

01:04:50.640 Oh, good.

01:04:52.020 Because of Bannon.

01:04:53.160 That was a huge mistake.

01:04:54.360 So National Front Marine Le Pen people are there.

01:04:57.280 The new far left, the man that was the other candidate that got 40% of the vote.

01:05:03.380 His name is Jean-Luc Mélenchon, Trotskyist communist.

01:05:06.360 I mean, he's far left by French standards, right?

01:05:08.520 Yeah, far left by Lennon standards, I would say.

01:05:13.020 He has also got his people out there and they're all jumping in.

01:05:17.000 Now, the main organizers, which I'll reveal in a second, they're like, these guys need

01:05:21.500 to get out of here.

01:05:22.380 These guys are actually threatening the people that started this movement.

01:05:25.400 They're threatening their families.

01:05:27.080 They're threatening to do bodily harm to them because they want to take this movement over.

01:05:30.800 Now, the people that started this, it all started actually with a woman that has been

01:05:35.600 dubbed the Madonna of Yellow Vests, which I thought was pretty good.

01:05:38.600 That is a pretty good title.

01:05:40.320 Meaning, meaning not, not meaning the singer, but meaning the Virgin Mary.

01:05:44.700 Oh, never mind.

01:05:45.380 I'm not less impressed.

01:05:46.420 I thought this was a shirt.

01:05:46.900 I'm not wearing breast cones.

01:05:48.000 Karaoke or something.

01:05:48.880 Yeah, I was looking forward to seeing pictures.

01:05:50.320 She's an interesting, strange kind of character in this.

01:05:53.100 She is a, what's the, she's an accordion playing psychotherapist.

01:05:59.800 That is her background.

01:06:00.840 That is the French flag, is it not?

01:06:02.980 Right.

01:06:03.880 It's like a smoking mime playing an accordion on a couch.

01:06:06.900 Yep.

01:06:07.900 Exactly.

01:06:09.480 She, I went all the way back into her beginning.

01:06:12.080 She wasn't all that political back in the day.

01:06:14.200 She just took pictures of her family and, you know, and I mean, she was not really political

01:06:18.520 at all.

01:06:19.120 So, just all of a sudden, out of nowhere in October, she does this viral video and the

01:06:24.260 movement she started, which now she doesn't even want to take ownership of and the people

01:06:28.700 that have come with her don't want to take ownership of because this has become like

01:06:31.960 a, you know, kind of like how the right has started to rise up now, how they're getting

01:06:37.040 violent.

01:06:38.540 It's turning into that.

01:06:39.980 In Europe.

01:06:40.800 Right.

01:06:41.140 Yes.

01:06:41.760 They're like, whoa, whoa, we didn't mean for it to be this.

01:06:43.820 If you're doing this, don't show up.

01:06:45.080 So, now, they didn't even want to come to the table today because we don't want to claim

01:06:48.760 ownership for this group.

01:06:50.200 We don't know, but they ended up basically being forced into, because the French president

01:06:54.980 was like, look, who do we talk to?

01:06:56.920 Yeah, I was about to say, who, because there's not, there's not like an official, this isn't

01:07:00.020 a union protest, right?

01:07:01.180 No.

01:07:01.360 This is just sort of a mass.

01:07:02.920 Yes.

01:07:03.720 Spontaneous protest.

01:07:04.700 So, who would you talk to?

01:07:05.500 It started with a video on Facebook that now has over 10 million views.

01:07:09.340 She did this video in October, and she was protesting, and this is where, you guys were

01:07:14.400 having a discussion a little bit about climate change and all that stuff off air, and I wanted

01:07:17.820 to save this for this.

01:07:19.700 I tried to get my brother to say, look, I understand there's something going on with

01:07:24.200 the climate.

01:07:24.880 I don't think it's, I know it's not as bad as what they say it is, but just think about

01:07:31.240 who, you know, will gain from a lot of the initiatives they want to do.

01:07:36.660 Any time you have the government that wants to get involved, there's some gain going on.

01:07:41.920 In my opinion, you cannot trust them whatsoever.

01:07:43.620 I'm personally for a total free market resolution to it, and just let, I think technological advance

01:07:49.160 is going to happen.

01:07:49.980 It is.

01:07:50.380 Let it happen.

01:07:51.160 You can't stop it.

01:07:52.000 It's going to change.

01:07:53.180 Talk to Ray Kurzweil, and talk to really any of these futurists.

01:07:56.880 Energy is going to completely change in 10 years.

01:07:59.140 I mean, talking about this stuff now, you know, and carbon tax and everything else, in

01:08:05.000 10 years, we may not even need any kind of fossil fuel.

01:08:09.460 I mean, it's just, you know, when solar panels become the size of an envelope that can power

01:08:18.660 your house, and the battery is changed, you're done.

01:08:22.600 You're done.

01:08:23.080 I can't stand it when you guys out free market me.

01:08:27.060 I'm usually the free market lunatic in the room, and you guys might actually do it to

01:08:32.260 me.

01:08:32.880 Yeah.

01:08:33.400 I see.

01:08:34.080 We were talking a little bit off air about this.

01:08:36.040 I do think climate change is happening.

01:08:37.760 I think it is disconcerting, and I think we should be doing things actively for it, right?

01:08:42.000 Which is why I wish that conservatives and libertarians would sit at that table more frequently

01:08:48.000 and talk about their assessment of it and what solutions they have.

01:08:50.480 Here's, may I say, here's why I think, because if you say climate change is happening, you

01:08:56.660 automatically then open up the door to, okay, well, we have to do something.

01:09:02.240 Well, wait a minute.

01:09:03.440 Climate change is happening, but climate change is always happening.

01:09:08.320 It's always changing.

01:09:10.040 So there is a cycle of the earth.

01:09:12.520 I don't know what that cycle is.

01:09:14.520 Now, all of the predictions that they made with the hockey stick and everything else as

01:09:19.360 CO2 goes up, so will, that's been proven wrong in the last 15 years.

01:09:25.000 It's not happening.

01:09:26.120 Now, they say it's on a pause, but why didn't you tell us there could be a pause?

01:09:30.260 They didn't even know.

01:09:31.780 So is it a pause?

01:09:32.880 Maybe it's a pause.

01:09:33.840 Maybe it's not a pause.

01:09:34.840 Maybe you're wrong in that.

01:09:36.740 So I believe that climate change is happening.

01:09:39.500 I also believe man can hurt the earth and the atmosphere.

01:09:43.060 That only makes sense.

01:09:43.980 Look at China.

01:09:44.960 Look what we're doing, what they're doing to the seas and the air in China.

01:09:49.240 I don't want to live like that.

01:09:51.000 I don't think anybody wants to live like that.

01:09:53.400 That's an out-of-control government.

01:09:55.740 Then look at the United States and what we were and what we are now.

01:09:59.980 We're leading the world in this already through free market principles.

01:10:06.100 The more we surpass the Kyoto Protocol, which was a big thing when I was in high school,

01:10:12.140 is that we hadn't signed on to the Kyoto Protocol.

01:10:13.760 We surpassed it.

01:10:14.460 We surpassed the goals from that.

01:10:15.540 That's through fracking, which is one of the things where I'd like conservatives and libertarians

01:10:20.100 to step up.

01:10:20.780 Because as a result of not sitting at the table and discussing solutions to this, there's

01:10:25.200 a lot of things that are just completely unchecked in terms of...

01:10:27.680 But they won't listen about fracking.

01:10:30.660 I mean, look, every time you come up with something, you know the cleanest energy in

01:10:34.280 the world?

01:10:35.780 Nuclear.

01:10:36.600 Which, again, is something where I think that the conservative libertarian solution should

01:10:40.980 be, or part of it, should be, look, we do think this is happening.

01:10:44.780 We should be doing stuff about it.

01:10:45.960 And one of the things that's hamstringing us right now is these very stringent, very

01:10:49.580 anti-nuclear regulations, which keeps us from exploring this other energy sector and reducing...

01:10:53.960 And fracking, and that's a very good example.

01:10:56.180 Because the fracking revolution happened, and it was bred out of competition.

01:11:01.280 So it was bred out of competition.

01:11:02.360 So it was when the Saudis started pumping ridiculous amounts of oil, or I'm sorry, lowered

01:11:06.840 their oil output to basically drive them out of business.

01:11:09.440 They did for about a year or so.

01:11:11.860 And then they were forced to evolve.

01:11:13.760 They were forced to do it, or they were just going to go under.

01:11:16.100 And if you look at all of the money the government has spent on electric cars, on solar panel

01:11:21.460 industries, all those things, those all went by the wayside, because that doesn't work.

01:11:26.980 But the free market, when there's competition, it always, always works.

01:11:32.080 Okay, back in just a second.

01:11:34.060 Thank you very much, Jason.

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01:13:15.800 Welcome to the program.

01:13:17.540 We're talking to Jason Batrillo, who's our head researcher here at the Glenn Beck Program,

01:13:23.340 and has been following all of the foreign affairs and following a lot of the, I hate to use the word,

01:13:32.480 prediction, forecast, if you will, of what I think is coming.

01:13:36.740 And we've been watching these riots now in Europe, and he's been tracking down the organizers.

01:13:42.120 So we have this one woman who is kind of the leader, but not really.

01:13:47.020 She just kind of started this.

01:13:49.380 She's a famous French person and did a YouTube video, and it caught on, and that's where this came from.

01:13:56.060 Came out of nowhere, yeah.

01:13:56.800 Jacqueline Murat, the Madonna of the Yellow Vest, she kind of represented these middle class Frenchmen from the suburbs of the bigger cities.

01:14:05.600 So give me a, because I only have about a minute.

01:14:08.100 Give me some of the other organizers now.

01:14:11.580 So the people that are jumping on with her, there's one guy, there's three main ones.

01:14:16.880 There's another guy named Eric Druitt, who is also, he's similar to Jacqueline, I think.

01:14:22.900 He's not very, really, really hardcore, but he has talked about Islamization, immigration, high taxes, all that stuff.

01:14:31.600 Another guy named Christoph Chalenkone, I'm probably butchering the name, but he's one of the more like, he's more political than the others.

01:14:39.260 You look back to his feed, and he's always talking about immigration.

01:14:42.360 And what is his bend?

01:14:43.480 What is his bend, left or right?

01:14:45.960 It looks like right.

01:14:47.340 Looks like right.

01:14:47.880 It looks like right.

01:14:48.600 Okay.

01:14:49.460 So those three, they're the ones that have been all over the media.

01:14:52.200 They're the ones that are showing up to all the discussions with the government.

01:14:55.760 The thing is, though, that like this last guy, Christoph Chalenkone, he represents more of the guys that are jumping on from the right.

01:15:01.500 They're the ones that can kind of more sling towards like Marine Le Pen National, you know, and National Front.

01:15:06.560 These are the people that are starting to dogpile.

01:15:09.260 We're going to continue to watch what's happening in France because what happens in France is going to spread to Europe, and then it will jump over here, and we'll have more in a minute.

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01:15:45.800 Tika Tiwari was on this program a few months ago, and he made a very bold prediction, and I said, don't do it, Tika, don't do it.

01:15:55.560 And he said cryptocurrency, Bitcoin in particular, is going to be at $40,000 by the end of the year.

01:16:01.160 It's kind of gone in the opposite direction.

01:16:02.880 When he said that it was maybe $7,000, it is now today at $3,900.

01:16:07.240 I have talked to him.

01:16:09.960 I called him, and I was like, so, Tika, what's the deal?

01:16:14.220 And I want you to hear his answer, because I think it's logical.

01:16:19.520 Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I think it's totally logical.

01:16:22.460 Tika, welcome to the program.

01:16:23.680 How are you?

01:16:24.800 Glenn, I'm great.

01:16:25.620 Thanks for having me here.

01:16:26.420 You bet.

01:16:26.760 And thanks for giving me the opportunity to talk about really two things today.

01:16:30.600 One, my Bitcoin $40,000 prediction, what's going on with Bitcoin right now,

01:16:35.040 and two, why the selling is not over, and I want to explain what's behind that.

01:16:42.760 Because I've set a price to where I want to buy more Bitcoin.

01:16:47.320 I don't know if that makes me a double sucker, but I'd like to hear what you think the low price

01:16:52.540 or when you think it's going to start to hit towards bottom.

01:16:56.560 Okay, the first thing I want to talk about, though, is Bitcoin $40,000.

01:16:59.400 Okay, so whenever I'm asked a question, I will always tell somebody what I truly believe,

01:17:06.000 even if it could come back to make me look foolish later.

01:17:09.600 I hate it when people talk out of both sides of their mouth.

01:17:12.560 Well, maybe it'll do this, maybe it'll do that.

01:17:14.740 I want to know what you believe, and then so I can make up my own mind.

01:17:18.520 You said to me the night you made this prediction, I said, off air, I said,

01:17:24.980 Tika, what are you doing? Don't do that.

01:17:26.480 And you said, Glenn, I have to because that's what my analysis says.

01:17:32.360 So I'm just telling you what the facts tell me.

01:17:36.700 You can believe it or not.

01:17:38.940 Right, because every fundamental reason that I forecasted behind my projection of Bitcoin $40,000

01:17:45.120 came true. I said a major endowment would buy Bitcoin.

01:17:49.080 On October 5th, David Swenson of the $30 billion Yale endowment bought into crypto.

01:17:54.040 Then Harvard and Stanford followed him.

01:17:56.360 I said Wall Street would open up their trading platforms and provide custody for crypto.

01:18:00.920 Now Fidelity, TD Ameritrade, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley, the owners of the New York Stock Exchange,

01:18:06.080 and NASDAQ have all announced plans to start trading Bitcoin.

01:18:10.380 Bitcoin, Northern Trust is creating a custody product, and even State Street, America's largest

01:18:15.240 custodian, is getting active in the States.

01:18:18.140 So what's the piece I got wrong, right?

01:18:20.180 So all the fundamental research that said, okay, all these new players are coming into space,

01:18:24.520 everything that I predicted came true.

01:18:27.040 But the one piece that I got wrong, that I'm absolutely willing to own 100%,

01:18:32.360 is I got the investor sentiment piece wrong.

01:18:36.080 I misunderstood just how bad investor sentiment was.

01:18:42.020 The market does not believe anything but bad news right now.

01:18:48.160 It's just taking the stance of, well, okay, yeah, Fidelity, okay, great, let's see it actually happen.

01:18:55.120 Now, all of these things are actually happening.

01:18:58.120 The last time, Glenn, I saw such a disconnect between the fundamentals and investor sentiment

01:19:04.160 was an Apple computer back in 2003.

01:19:07.400 Back in 2003, everybody thought Apple computer was going out of business.

01:19:11.600 They had the hottest product in the world, the iPod.

01:19:14.220 They said they were going to open it up to the PC realm.

01:19:17.120 Nobody believed them.

01:19:18.420 The stock actually dropped 40% that year.

01:19:20.980 It wasn't until 2004 when they actually opened it up to the PC realm

01:19:26.540 and their sales started going gangbusters that Apple stock started taking off.

01:19:32.020 So, again, I...

01:19:34.700 So, what do you think it's going to take to change the investor sentiment?

01:19:38.960 We're going to have to see this new platform by BACT,

01:19:43.780 which is ICE, the owner of the New York Stock Exchange.

01:19:46.500 That has to launch.

01:19:47.680 That's going to be launching on July 24th.

01:19:50.040 We're going to have to see Fidelity launch their custody product

01:19:53.480 and actually integrate Bitcoin trading into their desktop platform.

01:19:58.460 That's going to launch between Q1 and Q2.

01:20:00.940 TD Ameritrade has said that they're going to add Bitcoin trading to their platform.

01:20:05.100 We're going to have to actually see it, right?

01:20:07.720 The market is taking a stance of we need to see this happen.

01:20:12.780 So, that's...

01:20:14.300 But the good news is all of that is going to happen within Q1 and Q2 of 2019.

01:20:20.420 All of those institutions are coming into the space.

01:20:23.500 Not a single one of these institutions has said,

01:20:25.980 oh, you know, we don't like the way Bitcoin's trading, we're pulling out.

01:20:29.060 In fact, NASDAQ just said, we don't care Bitcoin's going down.

01:20:32.660 We're moving full ahead with our Bitcoin products.

01:20:35.660 Fidelity has said the same thing.

01:20:37.220 TD Ameritrade has said the same thing.

01:20:38.900 Not a single institution in the space has backtracked on their plans

01:20:44.060 to open up their trading platforms to Bitcoin buyers.

01:20:48.320 And that, to me, is the news that we have to look at.

01:20:51.760 Because the news that's dominating the market right now

01:20:55.400 is all this forced selling of Bitcoin and Ethereum

01:20:59.040 that's happening because ICOs are coming under the regulatory magnifying glass of the SEC.

01:21:05.660 Hey, Tika.

01:21:06.060 I apologize for jumping in, but I do have a question I'm burning to ask you.

01:21:10.560 I'm Andrew Heaton.

01:21:11.660 I'm the delightful funny man that's accompanying Glenn today.

01:21:15.220 Hey, Andrew.

01:21:15.580 Something that I want to ask someone that knows cryptocurrency very well about

01:21:19.080 is why it's not being adopted in places like Venezuela.

01:21:22.540 Because one of the selling points of cryptocurrencies, I understand it,

01:21:25.800 is that it's inflation-proof.

01:21:27.480 And if the government decides to implode a currency to inflate away the debt,

01:21:32.300 your value would not be lost.

01:21:34.740 But I don't see any stories of mass adoption of cryptocurrency in Venezuela.

01:21:39.340 Why isn't that happening?

01:21:41.220 Oh, it is happening.

01:21:42.300 That's how people are living.

01:21:43.300 People are living.

01:21:44.220 They're taking Bitcoin and buying gift cards on Amazon,

01:21:47.920 ordering goods on Amazon, and that's how they're surviving.

01:21:50.880 There's two top currencies in Venezuela right now,

01:21:54.140 a Bitcoin and another one called Dash.

01:21:56.780 In fact, there's more than 22,000 businesses now

01:22:00.980 just using cryptocurrency down there because you can't use cash.

01:22:04.960 It's completely working.

01:22:05.680 At one point, I read a story about how shopkeeps were weighing piles of money

01:22:11.540 instead of counting it.

01:22:12.580 They would weigh it by the pound or probably by the kilometer or whatever.

01:22:18.420 Kilo.

01:22:19.480 Kilo, yes.

01:22:21.980 Yes.

01:22:22.440 But to talk to you about the price action,

01:22:24.860 if you remember back in 2008 and 2009,

01:22:27.160 we had all that forced margin selling, right?

01:22:29.240 So you had great companies like American Express trading below $10,

01:22:33.600 which is ridiculous.

01:22:34.300 Nobody wants to sell American Express at $9,

01:22:37.420 but they had to because they had margin calls.

01:22:40.080 This is in 2008.

01:22:41.920 2008, 2009.

01:22:43.440 Yeah.

01:22:43.720 So we're seeing something similar right now happen with Bitcoin and Ethereum.

01:22:48.640 Thousands of companies raised money,

01:22:50.980 and there were only two ways to do it.

01:22:52.640 You had to raise it in either Bitcoin or Ethereum.

01:22:56.080 Well, now the SEC thing, well, all of you guys broke the law.

01:22:59.840 You're actually securities.

01:23:01.260 Now we're going to fine you, and you're going to have to give money back to your investors.

01:23:05.400 So there's this huge rush of where the lawyers are saying,

01:23:09.280 look, guys, you've got to raise cash, and you've got to do it right now.

01:23:12.160 And so there's this massive forced liquidation of Bitcoin and massive forced liquidation of Ethereum.

01:23:19.700 Now, how long does that last?

01:23:21.560 Probably a few weeks more, Glenn.

01:23:23.780 That's not a one, two, three thing and done.

01:23:27.000 So that's why I say, let's take a step back.

01:23:30.140 Let's get this forced selling out of the way.

01:23:32.060 And then I think the dust will settle here probably in about a week or two.

01:23:36.160 So I kind of said that I would, in my own head, when I saw it start to fall,

01:23:44.020 that I would reinvest some money in it if it hit $3,900.

01:23:50.520 It just hit $3,900.

01:23:51.320 And I thought, I will make the same kind of investment in Bitcoin that I made at first if it hits $3,000.

01:24:02.820 Do you think it could hit $3,000?

01:24:05.720 Yeah, I think on a panic low, we could go $2,500, no problem.

01:24:12.040 Wow.

01:24:12.860 On a panic low.

01:24:14.300 Yeah, because this is panic selling.

01:24:15.860 Listen, when I went through 08, 09, I couldn't conceive that a stock like J.P. Morgan could drop 80%

01:24:23.240 or a stock like Amazon could drop 66% or Amex could drop close to 90%.

01:24:29.620 But when you have forced selling, logic goes out the window.

01:24:35.980 Finance goes out the window.

01:24:37.840 It's just, it's blind panic.

01:24:40.020 And that's what we're in the middle of right now in this market, right?

01:24:44.480 See, you've got to look at the market and you've got to say, okay, where are we?

01:24:48.080 And we're in this panic selling.

01:24:49.980 The panic selling doesn't last forever.

01:24:52.120 I think within a couple of weeks, everybody that had to sell, needed to sell, wanted to sell, will be out.

01:24:57.960 But I still think there's probably a bit more downside ahead.

01:25:00.800 Tika, is this an app comparison that the reason why we don't have self-driving cars right now

01:25:09.180 is really not the technology of the car.

01:25:12.380 It's the 5G network.

01:25:13.860 It's we need to cure the latency problems, right?

01:25:18.440 And so it would be like you saying, well, I've invested all this money in self-driving cars

01:25:25.400 and they can't do anything but lane assist.

01:25:28.260 Well, yeah, yeah.

01:25:29.200 But there's other things that have to happen.

01:25:32.260 And then that technology is just going to explode because it's all ready.

01:25:36.780 It's ready.

01:25:38.060 It just needs the follow-up technology.

01:25:41.000 Do you think that's a fair comparison?

01:25:43.540 I do think that's a fair comparison.

01:25:45.620 I think what we have to look at is we have to look at the greediest, smartest investors in the world, and that's Wall Street.

01:25:53.040 And the greediest, smartest investors in the world are running to this asset.

01:25:57.680 They are building the on-ramps to bring their investors and their investors' capital into this market, right?

01:26:06.740 They're not running away from it.

01:26:08.500 It's like the Internet when you had the first blow-up in the Internet.

01:26:12.000 If everybody just stopped using the Internet and the Internet went dark, we could say, oh, that was just a fad and what's the point?

01:26:17.680 But that wasn't the case.

01:26:20.080 People kept building, and that's exactly what's happening here within the blockchain cryptocurrency space.

01:26:26.340 And if you look at every product that is being built by Wall Street to be sold to their 500 million customers, they're all being built around Bitcoin.

01:26:35.640 And what's good for Bitcoin is good for the entire ecosystem.

01:26:38.680 So what I'm saying is we've got to get through this for selling, just like we had to go through 08 and 09, and then we've got to go into 2019, and we've got to let these big banks build this infrastructure into cryptocurrency, and we will watch literally hundreds of billions of dollars of new money come into the space.

01:26:59.340 So it's unpleasant, absolutely unpleasant, but the worst thing you could do is just liquidate down here, and it would just be terrible timing to do that.

01:27:09.180 The sun will shine again.

01:27:11.500 One last question on this.

01:27:12.920 I've had people tell me, Glenn, Bitcoin will never work because it's too expensive to trade in and too slow.

01:27:21.520 Can you answer that?

01:27:24.280 Yes.

01:27:24.920 So the answer to that is what's called Layer 2 solution.

01:27:29.060 So that's called the Lightning Network, and the Lightning Network allows you to trade using the Bitcoin network.

01:27:36.940 It reduces the feeds to almost zero and virtually limitless amounts of trades per second.

01:27:43.460 The other piece that I will say is that what will happen with Bitcoin is I think it will be used more for higher dollar transactions if you want to write directly to the Bitcoin blockchain.

01:27:53.680 So complaining that Bitcoin is slow and expensive is complaining.

01:27:58.740 It's like saying, you know, my Ferrari sucks because it can't haul firewood, right?

01:28:02.880 It's built for something very specific.

01:28:04.940 But again, the good news is Layer 2 solutions are coming that will allow Bitcoin to scale where if you want to buy a cup of coffee with your Bitcoin, you'll be able to do that once Layer 2 is live, which I would say we're probably about a year away.

01:28:19.500 So if you say that Bitcoin is going to be for major investments, you know, kind of like a gold reserve, if you will, what gives it its value?

01:28:27.160 What gives it its value is that it's completely tamper-proof and sensor-resistant.

01:28:34.160 So you can't go in there and change the amount of Bitcoins that are going to exist.

01:28:39.700 You can't go in there and change the document.

01:28:41.900 Let's say you and I are two different countries, and we create a document, and we want to be able to prove that that document can't be tampered with.

01:28:49.000 We can take a hash of that document, which is basically a code, and write it into the Bitcoin blockchain, and we can arrange it so the Bitcoin blockchain is constantly checking our document.

01:29:00.100 If our document, if one sentence, one line, one period gets changed, the hash will be different, and it will say, hey, somebody's tampered with this document.

01:29:09.800 So being able to have tamper-proof documents, being able to move money without the need for a trusted third party, being able to move enormous amounts of money for fractions of a dollar is valuable.

01:29:24.320 Being able to self-custody your money in a way that is portable in a way that gold isn't is incredibly valuable.

01:29:31.980 So I think that value will continue to be realized as we move forward.

01:29:37.160 And I would remind you, Glenn, that this isn't our first rodeo of Bitcoin going down 80%.

01:29:42.720 This is the fifth, sixth time that it's experienced this kind of a pullback.

01:29:47.900 And one thing that I've always said, and I said it when we had our meeting together, is that if you're going to get involved in crypto, you have to know that there'll be at least one or two times when your whole portfolio is down 80% or 85%.

01:30:02.000 That makes me feel much better.

01:30:04.960 It does, doesn't it?

01:30:06.120 Yeah.

01:30:06.560 I mean, I think all of this stuff makes sense.

01:30:08.820 And then plus two, I think I'm not a – this was kind of my first foray into investing outside of an index fund.

01:30:14.920 And the thing that strikes me is that it's so fast in the cycle, whereas normally I think you would kind of get into something and wait a while, whereas with this it'll change week by week.

01:30:25.300 So I've been kind of impatient with it.

01:30:26.860 Yeah.

01:30:28.500 Go ahead quickly.

01:30:29.400 I'll just want to say one quick thing here is that in the stock market, we get crashes like this maybe twice every hundred years.

01:30:35.620 In the crypto market, we get crashes like this every two to three years.

01:30:39.300 So it's very different.

01:30:40.340 Tika Tiwari from the truthaboutcryptocurrencies.com, truthaboutcryptocurrencies.com.

01:30:48.260 He is also the educator on the smartcryptocourse.com, which is an advertiser on this program, but also something that we asked Tika to put together for this audience so you can understand it.

01:31:01.740 Smartcryptocourse.com.

01:31:02.940 Tika, thank you so much.

01:31:03.840 We'll talk again.

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01:32:51.520 Welcome to the program.

01:32:52.640 Glad you're here.

01:32:53.720 We are going to be joined by another great, great guest who is just joining us on the Blaze TV network.

01:33:02.280 And Andrew Heaton is with us today who does Something's Off with Andrew Heaton.

01:33:07.040 So welcome to you, Andrew.

01:33:08.880 Thank you very much.

01:33:09.940 And may I give a shout out to a sponsor here, Glenn?

01:33:12.900 Well, not, no, I mean, not really, but it looks like you're going to go ahead and go into it because I'm paid by the ad.

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01:33:59.120 Snuffy's off Route 44.

01:34:00.300 So now Jesus is on horseback?

01:34:02.180 He's on a Shetland pony.

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01:34:04.620 And he's on a Shetland pony.

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01:34:08.900 Yeah, I didn't.

01:34:09.620 I'm obsessed with horses, though.

01:34:10.680 Yeah, now, so horse nog, do they make that out of horses?

01:34:13.500 No, I think it's just regular egg nog.

01:34:15.340 Egg nog, just called it.

01:34:16.020 I don't think you've been out there yet, but the deal with Snuffy's is it's a diner where all of the waiters are on horseback inside of the diner.

01:34:21.660 So the horses are serving the food?

01:34:23.860 Yes, in effect, yeah.

01:34:25.440 The waiter's coming up to you on horseback.

01:34:28.120 You're at a booth.

01:34:28.840 You're just a regular guy, right?

01:34:29.940 Right, yeah.

01:34:30.300 And then a clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, the horse comes up, and there's a guy, and that's their thing?

01:34:33.720 And they're not in the kitchen?

01:34:35.180 No, there's actually health sanitation laws that don't allow them to do that.

01:34:37.740 It's kind of a Y-shaped diner.

01:34:38.780 They have to put them in a stable when they go in.

01:34:40.200 So why the nativity scene on?

01:34:43.600 They're super into this horse motif, Glenn.

01:34:45.640 Yeah.

01:34:45.760 That's why they're all, you know, anything you can think of involved in the nativity scene is on horseback, including the star.

01:34:53.480 There's a guy in a star costume.

01:34:55.000 He's on horseback.

01:34:56.140 I think it's an Appaloosa.

01:34:57.300 I don't know.

01:34:57.820 They gave me a rundown of the spreadsheet of all the different horses and things.

01:35:00.620 But yeah, the star is there.

01:35:01.720 Gabriel's on a horse.

01:35:03.260 Again, because they were donkeys and camels.

01:35:04.500 The shepherds would be on a horse.

01:35:05.760 The shepherds are on horses.

01:35:06.560 They would be cowboys.

01:35:08.680 Guys in donkey costumes with donkey masks, which I find horrifying.

01:35:11.700 They're on horses.

01:35:12.680 Very confusing for children.

01:35:14.260 Yeah, I was going to say it would be hard to explain to your children why the donkey is riding the horse.

01:35:18.780 And it places sort of undue emphasis on horses, in my opinion, and in the actual birth of Christ.

01:35:23.680 But this is, you know, it's their thing.

01:35:24.660 Because I don't believe there were any horses.

01:35:26.660 You'll have to take that up with stuffies.

01:35:28.360 Okay.

01:35:28.820 All right.

01:35:29.140 Thank you very much, Andrew.

01:35:30.620 Appreciate it.

01:35:33.020 Stand by.

01:35:34.680 More on the news of the day when we come back.

01:35:40.980 Let me give you this story.

01:35:42.120 In Tennessee, a woman pleaded guilty to performing a sex act on a 16-year-old boy who played on her husband's football team.

01:35:52.980 She's now claiming that the acts were consensual and asking for the civil suit to be tossed.

01:35:58.820 She is in jail now.

01:36:02.020 She pleaded guilty to six counts of statutory rape.

01:36:05.540 She said that she and this high school kid had sex at least 11 times in her home and then in her car.

01:36:14.560 And then she was sending him, you know, videos.

01:36:18.860 I think I kissed a girl in high school.

01:36:21.540 That was the extent of...

01:36:23.120 I'm not saying this is good for the kid.

01:36:24.820 I'm just thinking I lived in a very different world.

01:36:26.540 I lived in a very different world as well.

01:36:28.240 The attorney is now saying that he was not a victim of sexual abuse, that he was allegedly a willing participant.

01:36:40.840 Now, if I said that about a 15- or 16-year-old girl and a 29-year-old boy, things would be different.

01:36:47.720 But apparently, you know, this is fine to say about boys.

01:36:53.080 I think there's a whole Joe Rogan thing about this.

01:36:55.820 I think Joe Rogan's latest album, he has like six minutes of time dedicated to exploring this very issue.

01:37:01.580 And I think he kind of comes down on that position that it's like, meh, I'm not really worried about the guy.

01:37:06.740 But if it were my daughter, I'd kill you.

01:37:08.180 Something like that.

01:37:08.820 I think that was his position.

01:37:09.660 I'd kill you if you did that to my son.

01:37:11.340 Okay.

01:37:11.920 I'd kill you.

01:37:12.980 I mean, is some 29-year-old coming in and having sex with my son?

01:37:18.420 Here's what's weird.

01:37:19.520 The husband had no idea.

01:37:22.180 He's a high school coach.

01:37:23.780 Kid was having a hard time.

01:37:25.820 And friends with his son.

01:37:29.140 So he says, hey, you know what?

01:37:30.260 Why don't you guys just move into the house?

01:37:33.300 And so they did.

01:37:34.500 And then mom starts having sex with one boy.

01:37:38.920 And so then the dad doesn't know still.

01:37:42.120 But there are other problems.

01:37:43.400 And he's like, you know what, guys?

01:37:44.620 We just can't handle this.

01:37:45.620 You got to move out.

01:37:46.340 And the real problem here with this kid's case is he apparently went back to lobby the coach and said, you know what?

01:37:56.720 Really, this is real hardship.

01:37:58.300 I mean, we'd love to.

01:37:59.240 I mean, we'll behave ourselves.

01:38:00.520 We'd love to move back.

01:38:01.640 And, of course, his loving wife said, you know what, honey?

01:38:05.720 I think so.

01:38:06.540 I think that.

01:38:07.420 And then the sex continued.

01:38:09.500 Wow.

01:38:10.020 So, you know, it's kind of a hard case.

01:38:13.020 Is there any word for the coach how that guy's doing?

01:38:15.820 He quit his job.

01:38:17.900 But it says in the story he still backs his wife.

01:38:21.460 Really?

01:38:22.240 Yeah.

01:38:23.000 What?

01:38:23.440 Into a garage, close the door, and leave the engine on what?

01:38:27.240 I mean, you back your wife.

01:38:28.700 It's going to be a very awkward Christmas, regardless of how the legal proceedings go.

01:38:32.120 Oh, my gosh.

01:38:32.800 Really?

01:38:33.180 Not good.

01:38:33.920 Not good.

01:38:34.900 Graham Allen is joining us.

01:38:36.800 Graham Allen is one of the hosts on Blaze TV, Rant Nation.

01:38:41.620 Hello, Graham.

01:38:42.100 How are you?

01:38:43.340 Hey, Glenn.

01:38:44.080 Thanks for having me.

01:38:44.840 It's good to talk to you again.

01:38:45.940 Good to talk to you.

01:38:47.920 Graham, tell me a little bit about yourself.

01:38:49.520 For people who don't know you, introduce yourself.

01:38:52.820 Well, for people who don't know me, I am a dumb redneck from Mississippi that somehow

01:38:57.680 stumbled on into people's TVs and in their homes.

01:39:03.340 I think you're being a little, you're not a dumb redneck, but you are a redneck.

01:39:10.340 I am a redneck from Mississippi.

01:39:12.660 I'm a 12-year Army veteran.

01:39:14.840 Yeah, I created something called the Daily Rants and the Dear America brand that a large

01:39:23.900 group of Americans seem to identify with, and that led into the creation of Rant Nation.

01:39:28.800 And so we are a pro-America, pro-Second Amendment, pro-Family Values show.

01:39:36.200 And yeah, things have been doing good so far, and I'm very, very blessed to be talking to you right now.

01:39:42.520 So, you know, Grant is one of these guys.

01:39:44.620 I don't know if this has happened to you yet.

01:39:46.840 You'll go into a town or something, and there'll be this huge crowd lying around the block, and you'll say, whoa, what's happening there?

01:39:52.860 Who's there?

01:39:53.400 And they'll give you a name.

01:39:54.580 They'll say, oh, well, that's so-and-so.

01:39:56.800 And you're like, who the hell is that?

01:39:59.160 And you're like, huge internet sensation.

01:40:01.560 We have, it's a weird thing now, because we used to have broadcasts where everybody had

01:40:06.940 to be a fan, you know, or at least if you had a big fan base, everybody knew your name.

01:40:11.860 Now, because of the internet, these guys like Graham can grow and have a huge fan base, but

01:40:17.200 it's in their fan base.

01:40:18.760 And so you just walk by them in the grocery store, and you're like, you have no idea.

01:40:22.480 He's a big deal.

01:40:23.600 He's a big deal.

01:40:24.840 I will be more respectful.

01:40:26.040 Well, I don't think he even wants you to address him.

01:40:30.460 That's what he asks for.

01:40:31.660 I'll avoid eye contact.

01:40:32.360 Okay, good.

01:40:33.100 I love you to death, man.

01:40:35.380 Thank you.

01:40:36.480 So, Graham, what we're looking at, you know, this coming year and what we've seen this year,

01:40:46.040 what are the biggest things that keep you up at night that make you say, we really have to get a handle on this?

01:40:52.160 We have to talk about this.

01:40:53.700 I think that we have, the fact that we have democratic socialists even on balance is probably something that should keep everybody up at night.

01:41:03.920 I think that we're, I don't know, I think we're entering into a world where all we ever wanted was for our younger generations to get involved with, you know, politics and voting and this.

01:41:15.080 But what's happened is we've got these highly impressionable minds that are just believing garbage that they hear on, you know, lies and fake news.

01:41:24.340 And so now we are actually, unfortunately, potentially having to have conversations of how do we combat young voters and what it is that they're trying to believe that America needs to change into.

01:41:38.060 And so, I don't know, it's kind of like this just unfortunate thing that all we ever wanted was for, you know, for 18-year-olds and up to become active in our society and active in our country and vote and make a difference.

01:41:52.420 But unfortunately, it seems that a lot of our younger generations are believing the lies that socialism is a good thing.

01:42:00.620 Well, I think it's coming apart more, I mean, at the seams on every front.

01:42:05.980 If you look at a new survey out of those under 38, how old are you?

01:42:10.720 I'm 34.

01:42:11.180 You're 34.

01:42:11.840 And Graham, how old are you?

01:42:13.600 I turn 32 next month.

01:42:15.220 Okay, so those under 38, you both fit in this.

01:42:19.000 About half of those surveyed believe the United States is both a racist and sexist nation.

01:42:26.160 Do you think that's true in the people you talk to in your age group?

01:42:30.420 Do I personally think that's true or do I think that that is a widespread belief?

01:42:33.820 Widespread belief that you see it in your friends?

01:42:37.920 Yeah.

01:42:38.580 I lived in New York the last six years.

01:42:40.280 How about you, Graham?

01:42:42.280 Well, the answer for me would be no.

01:42:44.040 You know, where I live, you know, I can honestly say that I don't surround myself with people that are racist or that think that, you know, one skin color is superior to another.

01:42:57.380 And so, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:42:59.660 I'm saying that they believe, you know, half of them believe that the United States is racist and sexist.

01:43:06.720 Well, I'd want to know who they're asking.

01:43:08.740 But, yeah, I believe it.

01:43:10.120 I believe that there are groups of people or whoever it is that they are polling that, yeah, I believe it.

01:43:15.820 There's also, I think it's interesting, you brought up democratic socialism a moment ago, Graham, which I am likewise horrified at the prospects of rearing its ugly head in the United States.

01:43:24.200 When they do these similar surveys, it might have been from the one Glenn brought up, I don't know, but they'll ask, capitalism tends to have a really low polling rate with millennials and younger, but free enterprise is weirdly good.

01:43:38.540 It's this odd thing where it's kind of this disjointed analysis where when you talk to younger people and you sort of describe, you know, do you like entrepreneurs?

01:43:47.480 Yes, entrepreneurs are good.

01:43:48.580 Okay.

01:43:48.880 Do you like socialism?

01:43:49.780 Yes, I like socialism as well.

01:43:51.040 So there's part of its branding and part of its just incoherence.

01:43:56.120 So this is a study that came from Nick Adams.

01:43:58.720 He is a friend of the show.

01:44:00.280 He's, he's from Australia, wanted to come over here, had a hard time getting a visa to come over here and live.

01:44:08.220 He wants to be a citizen.

01:44:09.700 He finally got in after years and years and years of trying.

01:44:13.740 And he's the one who commissioned this report because he does something called flag where he's trying to remind America how great America really is.

01:44:22.760 Because he's like, I, I lived on the other side of the planet and I could see it.

01:44:26.120 You guys aren't seeing it.

01:44:27.020 He continues, 46% of younger Americans do not believe that America is the greatest country in the world.

01:44:33.300 14% of millennials believe that America was never a great country and never will be.

01:44:39.540 48% of those under 38 think that America is more racist than other countries.

01:44:45.540 Have you traveled?

01:44:46.580 44% of younger Americans think former President Barack Obama had a bigger impact than George Washington.

01:44:54.280 Oh.

01:44:54.760 That's, that's, uh, that's a little frightening.

01:45:00.400 Yeah, that is.

01:45:01.440 I, you know, Glenn, if I could really quick, I want to touch on the main thing that stuck out to me is that America is not great.

01:45:07.700 And that it's never been great.

01:45:08.960 I think that what's happening right now is we're having a group of people that are taking actual words and meanings and definitions and changing it for themselves.

01:45:17.040 Uh, yeah.

01:45:18.180 Is America perfect?

01:45:19.440 No.

01:45:20.040 Is America, will America ever be perfect?

01:45:22.360 No.

01:45:22.800 Nothing ever will be.

01:45:24.500 But to sit there and say that America is not great, uh, you either are truly the result of the spoils that we have within our society.

01:45:33.160 You know, uh, the, the, the, the, the blessings that we have on a daily basis that you just truly don't understand or you don't understand the difference between great and perfect.

01:45:42.420 And, and I think that that's what, I think that that's a huge issue that we're having these days is people are trying to act like, you know, well, America's America is not perfect.

01:45:52.140 Well, no, no, no, nothing is perfect.

01:45:54.760 Uh, America, the idea of America is perfect.

01:45:58.520 The idea that so many people can come together and be different and live under one title that is American.

01:46:05.040 I mean, that idea is awesome, but it's never going to be 100% realized.

01:46:10.300 Yeah.

01:46:11.160 Maybe a more apt phrase would be America's not Norway.

01:46:14.700 I find that a lot of the people that I talk to are just kind of bothered that we're not Northern Europe.

01:46:18.360 And then when you, when you drill down and talk to them about it, they don't actually understand Northern Europe very well either.

01:46:22.800 Yes.

01:46:23.280 They have no idea.

01:46:24.220 They've got this.

01:46:24.800 I mean, like, like, uh, who is it?

01:46:25.840 Uh, the, the prime minister of Denmark came to America to remind America that it is a market economy because Bernie Sanders kept pointing to it as a beacon of socialism in the last election.

01:46:36.380 They literally flew over their leader to go, nope, we're a market economy.

01:46:38.840 We do have a big safety net.

01:46:39.740 We do have high taxes, but we have a market economy.

01:46:41.760 So it's, it's, it's, uh, it's, it's truly remarkable what, uh, uh, how little we know and appreciate.

01:46:49.520 And on your point, Graham, about being perfect, you know, I talk about it in, in my latest book and, uh, it's, you know, uh, it's, it's this idea that we have to dismiss the declaration of independence and the constitution because they weren't doing it.

01:47:05.440 Well, tell me any group of people at any time who said, we hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal, endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights and among them, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

01:47:17.040 And a government is instituted among men to protect those rights.

01:47:21.860 Tell me anybody, any group of people ever, even the 12 apostles who got that right.

01:47:30.900 This is only Jesus got that right.

01:47:33.780 This is an idea that is an, in, that is a, an aspirational idea saying, this is what we're shooting for.

01:47:41.900 And if we ever got to the point where we're like, wow, wow, look at us.

01:47:45.820 We got that done.

01:47:47.100 Then we would need another aspirational statement to say, okay, we can do better than that, but we haven't done better than that.

01:47:54.520 Nobody's done better than that.

01:47:56.160 And at least it's our stated goal to be that way.

01:47:59.780 It's why I like Martin Luther King.

01:48:01.400 He, he was saying, don't tear this down, live up to the inspiration and your, your, your vision for what this country could be.

01:48:11.700 Graham Allen, a host of rant nation now on the blaze tv.com.

01:48:17.040 Thank you so much.

01:48:18.160 Good to talk to you, Graham.

01:48:19.620 Thanks for having me.

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01:49:00.700 So how fast can your life be turned upside down?

01:49:04.900 Uh, pretty fast.

01:49:06.400 Last week we saw Alaska and, uh, the earthquake and how fast something can, can happen to you.

01:49:12.520 I mean, here are these Alaskans.

01:49:13.860 They're minding their own business.

01:49:15.240 All of a sudden, a, a, what was it?

01:49:16.620 A seven on the Richter scale.

01:49:18.100 Well, the last one they had in 64, I mean, the last big one they had in 64 was a nine and they have these plates, um, that are actually, one is sliding underneath the other.

01:49:30.000 And so it causes, that's what, that's why they have, their mountains are so huge.

01:49:33.020 It just causes these things to just rise up out of the ground.

01:49:36.560 It's crazy.

01:49:37.600 If you haven't seen the pictures of Alaska and, and by the way, Alaska, I'll have, you know, we were on the plane, I think over the weekend, I found out yesterday, Mercury one is up in Alaska.

01:49:48.660 Uh, and I think it is our partner city impact that is, uh, is up in Alaska.

01:49:54.900 So if, if you want to help the Alaskans, um, you know, clean up and, and help each other, we're there and you can go to mercury one.org, um, and, uh, and help them.

01:50:06.840 Now, if you, if you've seen this and you realize, wow, you know what, something could happen in my life pretty easily.

01:50:13.680 I could, I could lose my job.

01:50:15.620 We could have a hurricane.

01:50:16.540 We could, um, you know, have a flood, have to get out.

01:50:19.600 We could have an earthquake, have to get out.

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01:50:51.100 Uh, so how do you feel about, uh, are you anti-Latinx?

01:50:58.040 I don't think so.

01:50:59.400 Although, I, although I, I was telling you, I'm, um, I'm not, uh, I'm not opposed to updating my lexicon.

01:51:04.700 However, that one does confuse me because from what I understand, Spanish is a Roman-esque language.

01:51:10.920 So there's, there's gender, A's and O's and everything.

01:51:13.300 I mean, like, like, like, you know, cups and mugs and everything, everything is either a male or a female.

01:51:16.820 So I'm, I don't know why that would become a gender-neutral one and, and what the rationale was behind it.

01:51:22.480 Well, it's white people saying that, um, I, I think it's, it's, it's really oppressive to say, you know, uh, to have gender, um, you know, specified.

01:51:33.980 That sounds about right to me.

01:51:35.800 That would not surprise me.

01:51:36.680 Right.

01:51:36.900 That were, that were kind of foisted from, uh, it's got to come from a university that said, hey, you know what?

01:51:42.360 Latinx.

01:51:42.860 I like Latinx.

01:51:44.040 Man, those, those Bronx universities, you can't swing a dead cat without hitting an academic in the Bronx.

01:51:48.200 Did that sound like something Mob would come up with?

01:51:50.780 Yeah, I tell you what, we're just going to call you, uh, Latinx.

01:51:54.700 I would love to visit Mob University.

01:51:56.880 That would, like a mafia-sponsored university would be fascinating.

01:52:00.000 I would definitely go to a comedy on the campus.

01:52:02.100 Gotcha, I bet you would learn a lot.

01:52:03.120 You'd have to.

01:52:03.640 And you'd probably come out a little more American, you know what I'm saying?

01:52:07.500 Enough with these Latinx, eh?

01:52:11.420 Holy cow.

01:52:17.300 Glenn, back, Mercury.

The Glenn Beck Program - December 04, 2018

We're Giving It Away？｜Guests： Ben Ferguson, Teeka Tiwari & Graham Allen ｜ 12⧸04⧸18

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