The Glenn Beck Program - 'We've Seen This Movie Before'？ - 7⧸10⧸18

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00:00:08.240 Last night in primetime, President Trump announced 53-year-old Brett Kavanaugh as the Supreme

00:00:14.720 Court nominee to replace Justice Anthony Kennedy.

00:00:18.600 The president, you know, played it up.

00:00:21.680 He was he walks out by himself.

00:00:24.280 I felt like we were watching a man who knows how to create a reality show.

00:00:29.320 And we were.

00:00:30.800 The president said he looked for a judge that was able to set aside their political views

00:00:35.840 and apply the Constitution as written.

00:00:38.860 The president listed several of Kavanaugh's credentials.

00:00:42.080 Graduate of Yale, if he's confirmed, it would maintain the court's unanimous Ivy League makeup.

00:00:50.320 Yay.

00:00:51.700 The president described him as a judge's judge who has authored over 300 opinions over the

00:00:57.120 last 12 years as a judge on the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in D.C.

00:01:01.620 Kavanaugh currently teaches at Harvard Law School, where he was hired by Supreme Court Justice

00:01:06.580 Elena Kagan when she was the dean there.

00:01:09.760 Kavanaugh, also a law clerk for Justice Anthony Kennedy in 93, and he was there at the same

00:01:15.740 time as Neil Gorsuch.

00:01:17.140 He later worked for the independent counsel, Kenneth Starr, during the Clinton-Whitewater

00:01:23.380 investigation, also worked as counsel in the George W. Bush White House, eventually becoming

00:01:29.620 staff secretary to the president.

00:01:31.900 He was also on the scene at the recount in 2000.

00:01:37.620 He's active as a Catholic.

00:01:39.980 He volunteers in soup kitchens.

00:01:42.340 He tutors students at elementary schools.

00:01:44.660 He coaches his daughter's basketball teams.

00:01:48.020 He seems like a normal guy.

00:01:49.940 Players call him, as he pointed out last night, Coach K.

00:01:53.660 No word on whether Justice Ginberg will call him Coach K.

00:01:58.500 Trump said no one in America is more qualified for this position and no one is more deserving.

00:02:04.300 This morning, I listened to the podcast from the New York Times on it, and I was fascinated

00:02:11.860 by the fact that they were speaking to a guest who said to them, it's probably the best, most

00:02:20.440 solid pick you could find.

00:02:22.960 Doesn't mean that people aren't going to be upset about it, but he is a qualified judge.

00:02:28.500 So those are the positives.

00:02:30.560 He ticks the boxes, the right boxes.

00:02:34.100 He seems to like Trump, and Trump seems to be convinced that he's a confirmable nominee

00:02:42.300 rather than somebody like Amy Coney Barrett, which is the one that I was hoping that he

00:02:47.100 was going to pick.

00:02:48.640 Many conservatives were rooting for him.

00:02:50.620 But conservatives are nervous because we've seen this movie before.

00:02:58.280 This is a guy who has been around Washington, D.C. for a long time.

00:03:05.960 Kavanaugh, in 2011, he wrote for the circuit in a case that he heard on Obamacare.

00:03:16.540 In that opinion, he ended up supporting the law's individual mandate.

00:03:21.620 This was something that he was directly influenced by with John Roberts.

00:03:27.200 Other potential red flag for Kavanaugh's confirmation, an article he wrote for the Minnesota Law Review

00:03:37.100 in which he said he believes presidents should not be subject to civil lawsuits or criminal investigations

00:03:43.080 in office because they were time-consuming and distracting.

00:03:48.320 Did that play a role?

00:03:49.340 Democrats will grill Kavanaugh for a week on that one alone, I'm sure.

00:03:55.540 Judge Kavanaugh greeted with a lengthy standing ovation last night.

00:03:59.480 His wife and his kids were there.

00:04:02.420 We will see.

00:04:03.720 First, we have to get through the nomination process.

00:04:07.040 And then we see him for the next probably 30 years on the court.

00:04:14.660 It's Tuesday, July 10th.

00:04:27.420 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:04:30.120 Welcome to the program.

00:04:32.180 Pat Gray is joining me today.

00:04:33.660 We have a lot of guests on today.

00:04:35.300 We have great, great people.

00:04:36.860 Mike Lee coming up in about 20 minutes.

00:04:38.440 We have Ben Shapiro at the top of our number two.

00:04:42.320 Dave Rubin at the top of our three.

00:04:45.400 Some really good guests to comment on what all of this means and how this is going to play out now.

00:04:51.620 I'm kind of disappointed.

00:04:53.360 Me too.

00:04:54.200 I mean, it's not bad, but it's not, you know, it's not a home run.

00:04:57.360 It's not a slam dunk.

00:04:58.320 It's not Amy Barrett.

00:04:59.460 She would probably, in my opinion, would have been better. 0.66

00:05:02.580 Right.

00:05:02.740 But I think he kind of went with a safe pick, and yet, you know, here comes the crazy from the left.

00:05:08.040 Oh, my gosh.

00:05:08.760 They're nuts over him.

00:05:09.740 Oh, they were saying that he was going to destroy the planet.

00:05:14.060 Yeah.

00:05:15.020 Millions of lives are at stake over this pick.

00:05:19.300 Wow.

00:05:20.120 Terry McAuliffe.

00:05:21.120 The nomination of Kavanaugh will threaten the lives of millions of Americans.

00:05:25.580 Well, it will.

00:05:26.940 Well, no.

00:05:28.220 No.

00:05:28.660 Maybe.

00:05:29.640 Hmm.

00:05:30.660 And actually, if it works out on the Roe versus Wade, it will save millions of American lives.

00:05:36.380 Yep.

00:05:37.460 Yep.

00:05:38.100 Not sure how you make the case that he's threatening the lives of millions of people.

00:05:42.680 So I read that.

00:05:43.960 Okay.

00:05:44.560 Yeah.

00:05:44.740 And I started thinking, because that's what I am.

00:05:48.100 I mean, I'm not a scientist.

00:05:49.360 Well, I'm a doctor.

00:05:50.800 And a thinker.

00:05:51.580 And a thinker.

00:05:52.680 So I started thinking, what is it that this guy might have?

00:05:58.940 That could destroy millions.

00:06:02.180 Millions.

00:06:02.700 Life as we know it.

00:06:03.800 Uh-huh.

00:06:04.320 Let me just say, I believe one of the infinity stones.

00:06:08.500 I believe that's what the left is afraid of.

00:06:13.600 Do you know which one?

00:06:14.720 Ah, well, I've been thinking about it.

00:06:17.440 It could be the soul stone.

00:06:20.040 Okay.

00:06:20.300 For only reason.

00:06:21.160 It allows the user to steal, control, manipulate, and alter living and dead souls.

00:06:28.440 Wow.

00:06:29.000 It grants the user control over all life in the universe.

00:06:32.940 Now, that's more than millions of people.

00:06:36.160 But to make it work, don't you need the other stones?

00:06:39.480 No, no, no.

00:06:40.140 You don't?

00:06:40.400 No, no.

00:06:41.280 Okay.

00:06:41.720 No.

00:06:42.360 All right.

00:06:42.740 You don't need to have all of them.

00:06:44.280 I mean, it would be great.

00:06:45.360 And I think that's what they're afraid of.

00:06:47.660 I think there's a possibility.

00:06:49.380 For instance, I think, well, you tell me, is it the media or has Donald Trump taken this

00:06:58.320 from the media?

00:06:59.380 I think they used to have the reality stone.

00:07:01.280 Listen, allows the user to fulfill their wishes, even if the wish is in direct contradiction

00:07:08.680 with scientific laws and things that are normally not possible.

00:07:13.700 It can create any type of alternative reality with the user's wishes at full potential.

00:07:20.440 When backed by the other gems, the reality stone allows the user to alter reality on a universal

00:07:27.120 scale.

00:07:27.680 Well, I think that's I think the media still has still has that.

00:07:32.040 Yeah.

00:07:32.920 It might lend it out to Donald Trump from from time to time, but they've had that one for

00:07:37.720 a long time.

00:07:40.420 How about the time stone?

00:07:41.980 Is it possibly as the time stone, the ability to stop, slow down, speed up, or here's the

00:07:49.760 key, reverse the flow of time?

00:07:52.800 Wow.

00:07:53.360 So we could go back to the 1800s and slavery and slavery, which is probably what he wants 0.67

00:08:00.620 to do.

00:08:01.160 I believe that's what they're saying.

00:08:02.680 I think they believe he has the time gem.

00:08:05.500 I think he's written extensively about trying to help America return to slavery.

00:08:11.300 Do you extensively of the 300 opinions he's written?

00:08:15.140 I think about 260 of them are about slavery and going back to the 1800s.

00:08:20.020 Well, you might be right.

00:08:20.720 He might have the.

00:08:21.500 Well, probably not.

00:08:24.240 But we don't know because the media has the reality stone.

00:08:28.400 Right.

00:08:29.060 So we're going to believe that almost everything that he has ever said or done leads to the

00:08:34.540 enslavement of women. 1.00

00:08:37.000 Oh, man.

00:08:38.380 You know, the the protests outside the Supreme Court last night were just, I mean, nuts.

00:08:44.920 Just not.

00:08:45.460 I couldn't even tell what they're screaming half the time.

00:08:50.800 What is that?

00:08:51.960 I'm sorry.

00:08:52.680 What?

00:08:53.060 They're upset.

00:08:53.820 He's racist.

00:08:54.900 Just.

00:08:57.700 He's a murderer.

00:08:59.660 Murderer.

00:09:00.100 Oh, my choice, not Trump's choice.

00:09:08.220 Is that what it is?

00:09:08.900 My choice, not Trump choice.

00:09:11.260 Something like that.

00:09:12.120 I only heard.

00:09:12.880 I know.

00:09:14.460 Then there was a sign that says circumcision harms.

00:09:20.020 And that has to do with the Supreme Court justice in one way.

00:09:23.980 Are they about to rule on circumcision?

00:09:26.620 Yes.

00:09:27.060 OK.

00:09:27.800 Yes.

00:09:28.220 All right.

00:09:28.460 That is one of the pending cases.

00:09:29.860 They're they're considering.

00:09:30.900 That's the Jew stone. 1.00

00:09:32.360 That's that's what that one is.

00:09:33.940 The holder of of that stone.

00:09:36.400 He he he makes all the rulings.

00:09:38.380 He controls all circumcisions.

00:09:40.200 Wow.

00:09:40.700 Yeah.

00:09:41.040 And I don't know if he holds it or not.

00:09:43.680 I would find it a little disturbing and ironic that it might be held by the Catholic.

00:09:48.880 So it's possible that he holds stones that Marvel characters don't even know.

00:09:54.540 Don't even know about.

00:09:55.600 Yeah.

00:09:55.800 Oh, no, there's more infinity stones than that.

00:09:58.200 I mean, sure.

00:09:59.340 Of course, there are.

00:10:00.520 And the circumcision.

00:10:01.980 I mean, why would the guy have the sign about circumcision if he wasn't worried about the 0.92

00:10:05.800 juice?

00:10:06.120 Right.

00:10:06.600 Yeah.

00:10:06.880 He wouldn't wouldn't make any sense.

00:10:09.900 No, because you wouldn't know anything about him.

00:10:12.540 Right.

00:10:12.740 You could be up there.

00:10:14.120 See, this is this again shows the cabal.

00:10:17.240 They're worried about all of the stones.

00:10:19.520 They're worried.

00:10:20.600 I mean, they had to have seen infinity wars and they know somebody's out collecting all

00:10:25.760 the stones and it's probably Brett Kavanaugh.

00:10:29.260 Yes.

00:10:31.660 He's collecting all of them and and it's not good.

00:10:35.940 It's not good.

00:10:36.760 So, well, it's threatening the lives of millions of Americans.

00:10:39.960 Right.

00:10:40.280 For decades to come.

00:10:41.560 We thought we would just start there today because, you know, when you really put this

00:10:46.160 into perspective, no matter what the media says about this guy, when you really put it

00:10:51.120 into perspective that what he's after is all of the infinity stones, you know, then you

00:10:57.220 know what kind of evil you're dealing with.

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00:12:09.440 We're going to talk to Mike Lee here about the Supreme Court justice and Ben Shapiro coming

00:12:14.240 up in in just a second.

00:12:15.860 Have you seen have you seen Ant-Man speaking of the Infinity Stones?

00:12:22.220 Have you seen Ant-Man yet?

00:12:23.180 No, not yet.

00:12:24.180 Do you like it?

00:12:25.100 Do you like?

00:12:25.560 Did you like the first one?

00:12:26.800 OK, I didn't love it, but I really liked it.

00:12:29.060 I liked it.

00:12:29.440 Yeah, I thought it was really good.

00:12:30.660 OK, you're going to love the new Ant-Man.

00:12:33.960 Oh, good.

00:12:34.360 I think it is my favorite now of the whole collection.

00:12:37.460 I walk, we got up and I said to my son, OK, rank it.

00:12:42.640 He said, out of all of them?

00:12:43.960 And I said, yeah.

00:12:45.220 And he said, what do you think?

00:12:46.160 And I said, it might be my favorite.

00:12:49.000 And he agreed.

00:12:50.400 I've heard that from other people.

00:12:51.780 Yeah, it's really good.

00:12:53.460 It's really, really good.

00:12:54.840 Yeah.

00:12:55.360 Also, Billy Dee Williams.

00:12:57.380 I should break this to you.

00:12:59.900 Well, he's going to be in Star Wars.

00:13:02.600 Like the next Star Wars?

00:13:04.320 Yeah, he's going to be in the next Star Wars.

00:13:05.180 Features Billy Dee Williams.

00:13:06.320 Yeah, I should have started it with Pat.

00:13:09.500 Billy Dee Williams is still alive.

00:13:12.160 Wait, what?

00:13:13.020 Yeah, I know.

00:13:13.980 It's a little crazy.

00:13:14.640 Yeah, you should have started there.

00:13:15.200 Yeah, you should have started there.

00:13:15.940 Yeah.

00:13:16.740 So is everybody, you know, here's when you watch Ant-Man, you will understand the future.

00:13:24.380 When you see Michelle Pfeiffer.

00:13:27.820 Is it Michelle Pfeiffer?

00:13:29.460 I don't know.

00:13:29.960 It's one of those Michelles. 0.60

00:13:30.860 When you see her and you see what they've done with CGI to, you know, make everybody

00:13:40.260 in their 20s is remarkable.

00:13:44.020 We're coming to a time where you're going to just, you will lease your looks out.

00:13:50.720 You'll just say, oh, Warner Brothers wants to make that movie.

00:13:53.920 I don't want to make that movie.

00:13:55.000 But I'll go ahead.

00:13:56.800 I'll sign my image and my voiceover and they will just create it.

00:14:00.520 I mean, it's everybody is dying now on the Star Wars thing.

00:14:04.680 Yeah.

00:14:05.200 But they're all dead.

00:14:06.280 Right.

00:14:06.600 Except for.

00:14:07.140 Well, either in the movie or in real life or both sometimes.

00:14:12.460 So the only way they're going to be able to do that is with Lando, who's, as you mentioned,

00:14:16.740 still alive.

00:14:17.600 And I guess they'll do Princess Leia again, CGI.

00:14:24.300 See, I don't know why there's, I don't know why there's, they look so bad in the movie.

00:14:29.780 That's the worst CGI for people I think I've seen.

00:14:33.120 When you see Ant-Man, now again, they're just aging the person or de-aging the person.

00:14:39.060 But it looks, it looks exactly like him.

00:14:44.760 Looks exactly like them.

00:14:47.840 All right.

00:14:50.060 What was your, what was your, what was your first thought last night, Pat?

00:14:56.580 That I was disappointed it wasn't Amy Barrett.

00:14:59.760 Yeah, me too.

00:15:01.360 I really would have liked that.

00:15:03.540 Now, Kavanaugh seems to be anti-Roe v. Wade.

00:15:09.060 Just on the few things that he's kind of known to have said, he spoke about the dissent

00:15:18.380 on Roe v. Wade in a positive way.

00:15:21.220 The only other, the only thing he's ever ruled on, I think, concerning abortion is that he

00:15:26.440 was in the dissenting opinion on allowing the illegal immigrant to get the abortion.

00:15:33.340 Right.

00:15:33.540 But that was for a different reason.

00:15:34.700 But he, yeah, it was for a different reason.

00:15:36.320 But all the way through it, he really deftly threaded this needle to where he was auditioning

00:15:46.700 a little bit.

00:15:48.160 Yep.

00:15:48.460 To where he said all the way through this ruling, like six or eight times, I just, you know,

00:15:54.800 I'm just for this decision, because the Supreme Court has ruled it so, I will assume that

00:16:05.080 abortion is the law of the land. 0.98

00:16:08.760 And so we are going to, you know, I'll go forward with that presumption.

00:16:12.500 But I only do it because it is the Supreme Court's decision.

00:16:16.860 So he's in that, he seemed to be saying, if I were on the Supreme Court, I don't, I don't

00:16:23.720 buy that at all.

00:16:25.560 And that's enough to make the left go nuts.

00:16:28.460 That's enough right there to make them hate the guy.

00:16:31.200 And, you know, they're going to oppose him.

00:16:32.900 They're going to hate him anyway.

00:16:33.640 I know.

00:16:34.100 They hated him before they knew it was him.

00:16:37.120 I know.

00:16:37.620 If you watch the news last night, you were watching stuff.

00:16:42.560 They had no idea who the person was.

00:16:45.600 And they were already saying, oh, it's a horrible, you know, really controversial pick.

00:16:51.940 I don't think this guy's that controversial.

00:16:54.160 Not at all.

00:16:55.060 Not at all.

00:16:55.500 I mean, when you look at it, how bad was the battle for Ginsburg?

00:17:02.540 Not.

00:17:03.440 Right.

00:17:04.120 Not.

00:17:04.520 I mean, 96 to 3, she was confirmed.

00:17:09.600 96 to 3.

00:17:12.400 She is by far, up until Sonia Sotomayor, the most extreme left-wing justice we've probably 1.00

00:17:20.060 ever had.

00:17:21.500 And she was confirmed 96 to 3.

00:17:25.540 Scalia, Antonin Scalia, who is considered extreme now by the left, was confirmed 98 to nothing.

00:17:32.960 It's the way it used to happen.

00:17:34.520 Yeah.

00:17:34.860 It was advise and consent.

00:17:37.900 So, Mr. President, we don't think this is a great pick, but it's your pick.

00:17:45.920 We consent.

00:17:46.700 Yeah.

00:17:47.180 Now, that's not it anymore.

00:17:49.320 They would have had.

00:17:50.220 He would have had to go with somebody off of Obama's list in order for the left not to

00:17:54.280 go nuts.

00:17:55.000 I don't think so.

00:17:56.340 I don't think so.

00:17:57.540 I think they would have opposed him.

00:17:58.680 I think Merrick.

00:17:59.880 I do.

00:18:00.380 I think he could have done Merrick and they would have said no.

00:18:03.720 It's possible.

00:18:04.540 It's definitely possible.

00:18:06.020 When ABC News is tweeting out 90 minutes before the announcement that Terry Moran is

00:18:13.980 going to report on the controversial Supreme Court justice pick and the possible implications

00:18:19.320 for the country, you know, there's nothing he could have done that would have made the

00:18:24.000 left happy.

00:18:24.600 Well, no, because he is controversial to the left.

00:18:27.720 But they didn't know that.

00:18:28.700 They didn't know who it was going to be, but it didn't matter who it was.

00:18:30.840 It doesn't matter.

00:18:31.700 That's, you know, again, I think he could have he could have said, you know, you know what?

00:18:36.720 I'm just going to double down.

00:18:38.180 I'm going to give two votes.

00:18:39.880 I'm going to give two votes to Elena Kagan. 0.99

00:18:42.400 And I think they still would have gone crazy, gone crazy.

00:18:46.220 She's not.

00:18:48.140 You know, she's there's something going on with Elena Kagan and you know it.

00:18:54.000 They would have gone nuts.

00:18:55.480 We have Mike Lee coming up in just a second.

00:19:00.000 I'm interested to see how the how this begins to play out with the with the parties only

00:19:11.220 because if you if you oppose this, what the Democrats want is to oppose it long enough

00:19:21.660 to rally their base and then say, we have to have great people in the Senate.

00:19:29.380 We have to have great people in the Senate or this is and that way they have a chance of swaying the Senate.

00:19:35.620 But they've got enough people who are red staters. 1.00

00:19:39.560 You have Heidi Heidkamp.

00:19:42.500 What is she going to do?

00:19:44.960 It's going to be tough.

00:19:45.740 It's going to be really tough, really tough.

00:19:49.660 We'll get to that.

00:19:50.680 And Mike Lee, what he thinks of the judicial pick when we come back.

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00:20:58.200 Good senator who I I wish we were saying hello to as the Supreme Court nominee today.

00:21:06.280 Mike Lee is joining us now.

00:21:08.540 Hello, Senator.

00:21:09.160 How are you, sir?

00:21:09.760 Doing great, Glenn.

00:21:11.500 Good to be with you.

00:21:12.760 You're so even keeled always.

00:21:14.840 Hey, you didn't get the Supreme Court nominee.

00:21:17.300 I'm doing good.

00:21:18.320 I'm doing good.

00:21:19.540 No, you're not.

00:21:20.640 Come on.

00:21:20.960 You wanted it.

00:21:22.340 I look.

00:21:23.040 We love we live in a great country and the president has made a choice.

00:21:28.080 And that choice is somebody who I think will stand up for the Constitution.

00:21:31.820 So was there any time, Mike?

00:21:33.840 Was there any time that you let yourself just go?

00:21:36.420 Because, I mean, you had been so even keeled the whole time saying to me on and off air, I'm not going to get it.

00:21:42.400 But was there any time that you just let go and went, that would be cool?

00:21:47.480 Oh, yeah, of course.

00:21:49.360 One has to do that every once in a while.

00:21:51.200 And it was a brief few moments when I allowed myself to think that.

00:21:56.340 Wow.

00:21:56.660 I've been a crazy, crazy year place.

00:22:00.760 Okay.

00:22:01.080 So, Mike, tell me about Kavanaugh because both Pat and I are a little underwhelmed.

00:22:07.500 And I guess it's because we're afraid he's a Washington insider.

00:22:12.360 He's a guy who's been around the GOP forever.

00:22:15.740 I mean, I'm looking for a bold thinker.

00:22:19.800 I'm looking for a constitutionalist.

00:22:22.980 Is he the guy?

00:22:23.900 I think he could well be that guy.

00:22:28.080 I hope he's that guy.

00:22:29.540 And I think he's got a lot of signs of being that guy.

00:22:32.640 It's very difficult to predict how someone will behave in a position like that until they're given that immense power.

00:22:39.140 I think, assuming he's confirmed, I think we'll know within a year or two, just as we know a lot about Justice Gorsuch now that he is Justice Gorsuch, much more so than we did after he had been on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit for a decade.

00:22:54.960 But, look, Judge Kavanaugh is a well-reviewed jurist, and he's one who deservedly received bipartisan support when he got confirmed to the D.C. Circuit 12 years ago.

00:23:05.460 So I know him by reputation to be a smart and a fair judge and, frankly, one of the most admired appellate judges in the country.

00:23:14.060 So I'm looking forward to the process, getting to know Judge Kavanaugh and his family a little bit better in the next few months.

00:23:20.680 Have you met him before? Do you know him?

00:23:22.920 Yes. I've met him on a handful of occasions, and I've known people who have clerked for him, who think the world of him, and who regard him as a textualist originalist.

00:23:34.400 And those are all good signs.

00:23:36.740 So, Mike, you're a guy who has known a lot of the Supreme Court justices, and you've spent time talking to them beyond just legal stuff.

00:23:49.680 What is it like to become a Supreme Court justice, and how badly does that play in your head unless you're rock solid on the Constitution, on, look, I want to make sure that our legacy or my legacy, how much of that plays a role early on?

00:24:13.500 I think it definitely plays a role.

00:24:17.260 And, look, I don't always quote Rush lyrics on national radio interviews, but if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

00:24:26.380 If you go into a position like this, especially like being on the Supreme Court of the United States, where you have the opportunity to wield tremendous power, and where, in fact, you become more powerful if and precisely because you decide to expand your role a little more than you should under the Constitution,

00:24:45.180 if you walk into this without having decided in advance that you're not going to do that, you're going to do that.

00:24:51.300 And so my hope is that what we will discover in the coming weeks, months, and if he's confirmed, in the coming year or two,

00:24:58.060 is that Brett Kavanaugh is someone who has already made that choice, who has already decided, I'm not going to do that.

00:25:03.920 I'm not going to be that kind of justice.

00:25:06.260 Mike, talking to Senator Mike Lee, when did it change when, you know, I think it was Ginsburg that had 98 to 2, and Scalia was 98 to 0.

00:25:21.120 When did it change from advise and consent to we're going full battle?

00:25:28.060 You know, in my lifetime, I think it started to change with Robert Bork, who, of course, was about six years before Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

00:25:39.020 But that's when it became really, really contentious, and the Democrats decided to take him down, and they did, in fact, take him down.

00:25:49.280 Since then, this has become a tug of war, and it has become a lot more politically charged.

00:25:54.620 I learned recently that in previous decades, in fact, throughout most of the history of the Republic, Supreme Court nominations were not predicted to be these big partisan contentious events.

00:26:08.660 In fact, they often were confirmed by voice vote, meaning that there was no roll call taken because most or nearly all of the members were satisfied with whomever the president picked.

00:26:20.380 And so, over the last four decades or so, the Supreme Court has become a lot more contentious, in part because it's taken on a much more decidedly political role.

00:26:33.680 Right.

00:26:33.960 And I think that's been to the detriment of our system.

00:26:36.180 So, if we had, Ted Cruz said last week, you know, I don't want a conservative, I want a constitutionalist.

00:26:42.500 If we had the constitutionalist up there, the Supreme Court would go back to being something that wasn't so consequential, 0.64

00:26:51.960 because everybody in Congress would pretty much know what the Constitution says.

00:26:58.580 It would force them to actually look at the Constitution and not hope that they could just get some judge at a lower level to pass it on to the Supreme Court and cross your fingers and hope that they'll say, yeah, I like that.

00:27:11.040 We're moving there.

00:27:13.160 Yeah, that's right.

00:27:14.200 This would become much more of a functional role, much more of the role of an umpire, someone who calls the balls on the strikes as they see them.

00:27:22.540 There was an early Chief Justice, I think it was John Jay, who, upon leaving the court, commented that he thought he was destined to be sort of a lackluster entity within our system of government.

00:27:37.300 At the time, it's understandable why he might have said that.

00:27:41.780 At the time, the federal government occupied a relatively small footprint on American society.

00:27:47.580 And at the time, even within that footprint of the federal government, the Supreme Court's role was relatively limited.

00:27:54.340 The role of the federal government has expanded.

00:27:56.960 The role of the court has expanded to an even greater degree, comparatively speaking.

00:28:03.560 So that's one of the reasons why it's become so contentious.

00:28:05.680 But it doesn't need to be that way.

00:28:07.420 If we keep judges to judging, things will work much better, and we can have the hot-button political issues decided by elected representatives,

00:28:14.600 rather than by people wearing robes who serve with lifetime tenure.

00:28:19.940 And Mike, do you get the sense, and maybe it's too early for this, but do you get the sense he'll be able to be confirmed,

00:28:26.680 or is there going to be too much opposition from Democrats?

00:28:31.980 No, look, I think he will be confirmed.

00:28:33.900 But, barring something that we don't see right now, I think he's going to be able to get Republicans to vote for him,

00:28:41.920 and perhaps one or two or three, who knows, maybe even a few more Democrats.

00:28:47.900 But if all the Republicans stick together, he will be confirmed.

00:28:51.020 But there's a couple that I'm thinking of, both in the cold north, that may not agree with that plan.

00:29:02.960 Are you comfortable that this guy can get past those two?

00:29:08.300 I am.

00:29:09.460 I'm not certain of it, and I don't want to speak for those colleagues, but I will say this.

00:29:14.720 They're speculating about the possibility that they might not vote for him.

00:29:19.000 And actually, voting against him are two different things.

00:29:22.420 I just don't see it happening.

00:29:23.920 I see Senators Collins and Murkowski, once they have a chance to visit with this man

00:29:30.600 and discover that he is not a judicial activist,

00:29:33.140 discover that he very much wants to be a constitutionalist jurist,

00:29:37.780 one who calls the balls and strikes as he sees them,

00:29:40.340 I think they're going to be comfortable with him, and I think they'll vote for him.

00:29:42.580 If they don't, and if he's not confirmed,

00:29:48.680 just playing this political game out in my head,

00:29:52.800 I would think that if I'm a Democrat, I want this over.

00:29:57.480 I want a big fight, and I want to show that I'm standing up and everything else.

00:30:01.700 But in the end, I fold probably around September

00:30:05.100 because I don't want this dragging on through the election

00:30:09.460 because I've got some people in some red states that are in trouble,

00:30:15.360 and they could lose their position and lose it to somebody who would vote for this judge.

00:30:23.740 Do I read that right, do you think?

00:30:26.040 Perhaps.

00:30:27.360 That's one side of the argument.

00:30:28.620 The other side of the argument is that depending on which kind of Democrat you are

00:30:33.220 and which kind of state you're from, you might see it the exact opposite way.

00:30:36.100 You might see, hey, if we can drag this out,

00:30:38.680 and if by chance Democrats have the chance to clinch the majority this fall,

00:30:44.680 then they could write out, they could garlandize the next two years,

00:30:49.120 hoping that they win the presidential election in 2020

00:30:51.700 and make it impossible for President Trump to get anybody through

00:30:55.080 until the end of this term in office.

00:30:57.220 That would be completely game-changing, would it not?

00:31:06.900 I mean, what happens to our...

00:31:08.040 Aren't we in a constitutional crisis at that point?

00:31:11.120 I wouldn't really call that a constitutional crisis.

00:31:13.640 I would say that that is suboptimal and...

00:31:17.660 Suboptimal!

00:31:20.300 Well, wouldn't our...

00:31:21.220 I mean, that leaves everything 4-4 with a tie.

00:31:24.760 Yeah, but there are mechanisms in place to deal with that happening.

00:31:30.840 In fact, there have been times in the history of our Republican

00:31:33.160 we've had an even-numbered panel on the Supreme Court,

00:31:38.500 and there are mechanisms in place to deal with that.

00:31:42.400 If you end up with a 4-4 split,

00:31:45.340 which even when there is an 8-member composition on the court is still pretty rare,

00:31:50.420 but in those rare instances, the lower court ruling stands,

00:31:54.960 but doesn't take on precedence as if it were a Supreme Court ruling.

00:31:59.240 So it's not...

00:32:00.300 Look, there are lots of things that can cause constitutional crises.

00:32:03.160 I wouldn't put this in quite that same category.

00:32:05.560 I would say that would be an extremely disappointing outcome.

00:32:08.280 Wouldn't call it a constitutional crisis.

00:32:09.940 Mike, precedence.

00:32:11.580 Kavanaugh has written a book with Gorsuch all about precedence.

00:32:16.680 Can you tell me, why should we care about precedence?

00:32:21.040 If we did, wouldn't we still have Jim Crow laws? 1.00

00:32:25.140 I mean, just because one court ruled on it that way

00:32:28.340 doesn't mean that the next court has to see that as constitutional,

00:32:31.660 especially if that court was looking at political factors.

00:32:34.940 Yeah, that's true.

00:32:37.460 The reason precedent exists, the reasons for doctrines like stare decisis

00:32:43.080 that try to stick with precedent where possible,

00:32:48.080 it has a lot to do with predictability, foreseeability within the judicial system.

00:32:52.900 Courts don't like chaos.

00:32:54.260 They don't like being the cause of chaos.

00:32:56.740 And so that's why there is a general leaning towards sticking with what they've done in the past.

00:33:01.620 But as you point out, for good reason, that is not an inexorable command, nor is it inflexible.

00:33:09.320 It's something that has to recognize limits and does.

00:33:12.660 So, for example, T.B. Ferguson's standard of separate but equal never was right, never could be right.

00:33:21.380 And for that reason, the Supreme Court was right to undo it in Brown v. Board of Education.

00:33:25.860 That's a good example of why it is that even though courts tend to like to follow their own precedents,

00:33:32.380 they are at liberty to, and sometimes under a moral obligation, to undo their own precedent.

00:33:37.500 All right, Senator Mike Lee, thank you so much.

00:33:39.440 Appreciate it.

00:33:40.460 Buckle up. 0.96

00:33:41.660 We're going to need your leadership and your friendship with everyone

00:33:45.980 to be able to move on and not have a suboptimal situation.

00:33:52.380 Thanks, Mike.

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00:35:44.560 Ted Cruz is supposedly in the fight of his life, but I don't believe this.

00:35:50.300 It's a blue wave.

00:35:51.160 There's a blue wave sweeping Texas.

00:35:52.760 A blue wave.

00:35:53.540 Well, they're trying to make people believe here in Texas that Ted Cruz, that there are two Hispanics running.

00:36:00.020 Now, this is really amazing because I didn't know that they considered Ted Cruz a Hispanic.

00:36:05.740 Okay?

00:36:06.600 But there's two Hispanics.

00:36:08.200 Now, the Democrat that is running, his name is O'Brien.

00:36:13.500 O'Rourke.

00:36:14.000 O'Rourke.

00:36:14.840 That's right.

00:36:15.360 O'Rourke.

00:36:16.580 His name is actually Robert Francis O'Rourke.

00:36:20.480 Right.

00:36:21.200 He's not half Hispanic.

00:36:23.420 He's not at all Hispanic. 1.00

00:36:25.160 He's Irish American.

00:36:26.360 He's Irish.

00:36:27.560 Yes.

00:36:28.000 And yet they are imaging him as a Hispanic.

00:36:32.740 For some reason, he's adopted a Hispanic nickname, Beto.

00:36:37.920 And so that's the only name he uses on all of his campaign material.

00:36:42.660 If you see a bumper sticker in Texas, it just says Beto for Senate.

00:36:46.140 If you see a yard sign, it just says Beto for Senate.

00:36:50.440 They're trying to make it appear as though the guy is Hispanic.

00:36:54.120 And I think it's working.

00:36:55.780 I think Hispanics believe this Irish guy, he's whiter than I am.

00:37:01.800 This is cultural appropriation.

00:37:04.020 It is.

00:37:04.400 It is really amazing.

00:37:07.240 Why aren't they hacked off about this?

00:37:08.740 Oh my gosh.

00:37:09.760 Why?

00:37:09.980 Because it doesn't.

00:37:11.940 Because it's a Democrat.

00:37:12.620 The ends justify the means.

00:37:13.760 Yes.

00:37:14.020 It doesn't matter to them.

00:37:15.500 They don't actually care about anybody's culture.

00:37:19.520 They don't.

00:37:20.160 They'll use it any way.

00:37:22.020 It's a two-edged sword.

00:37:23.780 It will cut either direction for them.

00:37:26.520 Mm-hmm.

00:37:27.460 Beto.

00:37:28.280 Let's see if we can get him on the air.

00:37:31.380 Oh, yeah.

00:37:31.900 He's a good Irish-Hispanic man.

00:37:35.960 We'll talk some more.

00:37:37.580 Ben Shapiro's next.

00:37:40.100 Glenn Beck.

00:37:41.700 It's Tuesday, July 10th.

00:37:43.820 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:37:45.940 Ben Shapiro, editor-in-chief of the Daily Wire, host of the Ben Shapiro Show.

00:37:50.420 Welcome to the program, sir.

00:37:52.180 How are you?

00:37:53.060 Thanks for having me.

00:37:54.000 How are you doing?

00:37:54.900 Ben, I'm disappointed.

00:37:57.940 I was hoping for Barrett, myself.

00:38:01.560 I'm holding out hope because I've seen your analysis and you know what you're talking about

00:38:08.420 when it comes to the law.

00:38:11.600 Are you comfortable with this guy?

00:38:15.580 You know, I think comfortable is probably a pretty good word for it.

00:38:19.780 I don't think that I'm deeply uncomfortable, and I'm not ecstatic about the pick.

00:38:23.660 I don't think, as you say, I was in favor of Amy Coney Barrett.

00:38:27.420 I was in favor of Mike Lee.

00:38:28.600 He was my first choice before he was kind of picked off the short list.

00:38:31.900 But if you are going to go with somebody who is a more establishment pick, I think Kavanaugh

00:38:36.260 will be decent.

00:38:37.420 The only question is whether Kavanaugh is more like Roberts, which would be on the bad side

00:38:41.680 of the scale, or he's more like Alito.

00:38:43.120 I don't think he's going to be a Scalia-Thomas figure.

00:38:44.600 He doesn't write these kind of ringing opinions that echo down.

00:38:48.100 He's not somebody who writes broad-spectrum opinions, sort of like taking big issues and

00:38:53.780 knocking them over.

00:38:54.820 I don't think he's going to vote to overturn Roe v. Wade.

00:38:56.940 I think that the chances that this court votes to overturn Roe v. Wade are very low.

00:39:00.280 But I think what he will do, along with Roberts, it will probably carve back the extent of Roe

00:39:05.240 v. Wade, particularly using doctrine of Planned Parenthood versus Casey.

00:39:09.560 So in that 1992 case, you recall Kennedy actually wrote the opinion on that one, there was a

00:39:14.220 test that was put on abortion law saying that you couldn't have an abortion law in place

00:39:17.920 that created an undue burden for a woman seeking an abortion. 1.00

00:39:21.180 And at the time, there was actually a lot of consternation on the left that that test was

00:39:24.740 going to be used to pare back abortion law, that basically they were going to pass a bunch

00:39:29.260 of laws, and the court was going to say, well, that doesn't present an undue burden on

00:39:32.580 a woman trying to get an abortion.

00:39:33.620 Now, that's not actually what the court ended up doing.

00:39:35.420 They ended up upholding a bunch of abortion laws, upholding a bunch of, getting rid of 0.94

00:39:39.720 a bunch of abortion laws to preserve abortion.

00:39:41.720 But you could see that doctrine sort of minimized under Kavanaugh and Roberts.

00:39:49.360 So I think that what you're going to see is a new swing middle with Kavanaugh and Roberts

00:39:52.520 writing very carefully tailored opinions that don't sort of knock over broad areas of the

00:39:57.900 law.

00:39:58.260 So I don't think you have to worry about this guy being Souter. 0.73

00:40:00.660 I don't think you have to worry about this guy being John Paul Stevens.

00:40:03.200 This guy's got to be Kennedy?

00:40:04.140 Possibly being Roberts.

00:40:05.420 Is he going to be Kennedy?

00:40:06.340 I don't think he'll be Kennedy either.

00:40:06.980 I don't think he'll be Kennedy.

00:40:07.900 I think Kennedy is somebody who established rights out of whole cloth.

00:40:11.180 I remember Kennedy was Lawrence versus Texas guy, and Obergefell died.

00:40:15.120 I don't think that's Kavanaugh.

00:40:16.720 I think Kavanaugh is a lot less ambitious than that, and I also don't think that's the way

00:40:20.380 he approaches the law.

00:40:21.520 It's just that everything that he writes is incredibly closely tailored and as narrow as

00:40:26.500 humanly possible.

00:40:27.720 And that has benefits in the sense that his decisions will probably be slightly less controversial.

00:40:33.240 It has its drawbacks in the sense that if you want the Supreme Court to make clear stands

00:40:38.640 on issues like, for example, religious freedom, and you want him to make statements about this

00:40:46.440 law violates religious freedom outright as opposed to finding a reason to strike down

00:40:50.620 the law without saying it violates religious freedom outright, then I think you're going

00:40:53.880 to be disappointed.

00:40:54.580 So you're going to see a lot of masterpiece cake shop holdings that come out correctly but

00:40:58.740 are as closely tailored as possible rather than just saying you can't force a religious

00:41:02.280 person to bake a cake for a same-sex wedding.

00:41:05.540 Wow.

00:41:06.580 So what does that mean in the long run?

00:41:13.740 Have we changed it as dramatically as what the media is going to approach this with?

00:41:22.880 Does anything fundamentally change because of this?

00:41:27.600 I mean, I think the only thing that fundamentally changes is that you're not going to get these

00:41:30.480 wild outlier opinions that Kennedy was fond of.

00:41:33.620 I don't know.

00:41:34.060 We got it from John Roberts.

00:41:37.540 Right.

00:41:38.000 But I oppose Roberts.

00:41:40.660 I'm more comfortable with Kavanaugh than I am with Roberts.

00:41:43.140 Having looked at a lot of Kavanaugh's decisions, it seems like the big problem with Kavanaugh is

00:41:48.840 that he votes the right way but writes as closely tailored as possible, whereas Roberts was a

00:41:55.080 consensus builder who was always attempting to avoid ruling on anything whatsoever.

00:41:59.660 So that's basically what he did in the Obamacare decision.

00:42:02.560 I don't think he's going to be full Roberts.

00:42:05.700 I think he'll be closer to Alito than he is to Roberts.

00:42:08.160 And if so, then I think that we ought to be relatively pleased.

00:42:11.320 I think it's a double.

00:42:13.120 I don't think it's a home run.

00:42:13.920 I think that Trump really could have gone for the fences here.

00:42:16.100 And instead, he picked a really safe pick who he knows he's going to get through, very

00:42:19.920 well qualified, obviously.

00:42:21.680 And Kavanaugh's going to sail through the nomination hearings because he's been following

00:42:25.820 stuff forever.

00:42:26.640 He's clever enough to watch that.

00:42:28.740 What I don't buy into is a lot of the hype on both the right and left that Kavanaugh is

00:42:32.920 some sort of secret radical.

00:42:33.900 So on the right, you're seeing people say, well, you know, he worked for Ken Starr.

00:42:37.200 Well, so what?

00:42:37.800 I mean, John Roberts worked for the Republicans on the Hill for a long time and ended up being

00:42:41.840 John Roberts.

00:42:42.500 That matters.

00:42:43.100 And on the left, you're hearing that Kavanaugh is going to be the guy who strikes down Roe

00:42:46.260 v.

00:42:46.420 Wade and we're going to do Handmaid's Tale kind of stuff.

00:42:49.580 And right now, I have a thrilling business idea.

00:42:52.260 If you're in for it, Glenn, if you and I go into it, I think we have the money to make

00:42:55.740 this happen.

00:42:56.160 We can start our own line of red cloaks and white nuns habits. 0.99

00:43:01.080 And in the next three years, we will just make bank.

00:43:03.840 It's really amazing, Ben, because I have talked about it and I've already done a couple

00:43:08.460 of sketches of the red hoods.

00:43:10.020 You know, you have to have the bonnet with the cloak.

00:43:14.860 And so I'm in on that.

00:43:18.220 The idea that he was playing it close to the vest on this last ruling with the illegal immigrant

00:43:28.300 that had the abortion where he said, you know, six or eight times in the in his dissent that

00:43:35.520 he was he was only claiming that abortion could be had by this individual because it was the

00:43:44.440 law of the land and the precedent set by the Supreme Court.

00:43:47.640 And it reads kind of as if he is setting up saying, I don't agree with it, but it is

00:43:55.720 the law of the land and I'm not going to change that.

00:43:58.400 Do you buy into that at all?

00:44:00.400 Yeah, I mean, there are two ways to read that particular opinion.

00:44:04.060 One of them is three the way that you say, which is that he's saying it's precedent.

00:44:07.160 I'm bound by it.

00:44:07.700 The other is him saying, you know, it's precedent.

00:44:09.440 I'm bound by it while I'm on the circuit court.

00:44:11.380 Right.

00:44:11.600 Because while you're on the circuit court, you are bound by precedent.

00:44:13.640 While you're on the Supreme Court, not quite as much.

00:44:15.380 So, again, I think it is very, very unlikely that Roe v. Wade is overturned by Kavanaugh and

00:44:20.300 Roberts.

00:44:20.740 I think that remember, it takes four votes to actually accept the writ of certiorari to

00:44:24.940 the Supreme Court.

00:44:25.580 So let's say that the state of Montana passes a law tomorrow and the law is that they're

00:44:29.120 going to ban abortion from inception, except in the cases of life of the mother.

00:44:33.020 And somebody in Montana appeals that to the circuit court of appeals.

00:44:36.280 And let's say the circuit court of appeals still applying Roe says this law is unconstitutional.

00:44:40.060 And then Montana appeals that to the Supreme Court.

00:44:42.420 Well, the Supreme Court doesn't have to take it.

00:44:43.720 It requires four votes on the Supreme Court to take a writ of certiorari to accept the

00:44:47.620 case.

00:44:48.300 I don't know that you actually have four votes on the Supreme Court to accept that case.

00:44:52.260 I think that it's very unlikely, in fact, that you have four votes on the court to accept

00:44:55.560 that case.

00:44:56.000 I think if Barrett had been there, I think you would have.

00:44:57.700 But I think that with Kavanaugh and Roberts, I think very unlikely.

00:45:00.400 I think you only have three.

00:45:01.460 And that means that what they're instead going to do is deny cases like that and accept cases

00:45:05.260 that kind of gradually pare back abortions. 1.00

00:45:07.380 So, for example, a fetal pain bill, that'll pass.

00:45:10.380 It'll go to a court of appeals, a court of appeals will strike it down.

00:45:13.560 And then the Supreme Court will accept it and say it's not an undue burden on the mother

00:45:17.380 under Planned Parenthood versus Casey to say that she ought to get an abortion. 0.99

00:45:21.040 If she's going to get an abortion, she ought to get it earlier than the fetus can feel pain. 1.00

00:45:24.880 I think they're gradually going to pare back the extent to which Roe v. Wade governs.

00:45:29.580 But if you are somebody who wanted this overturned immediately, I think you're going to be

00:45:32.760 disappointed.

00:45:33.100 So do you think, would that have been more of a possibility if you would have picked Amy

00:45:39.500 Coney Barrett?

00:45:41.240 Yes.

00:45:41.740 I think that if you picked Barrett, I think it would have forced Roberts into a position.

00:45:45.620 The problem is that Kavanaugh provides Roberts with enough support that he doesn't actually

00:45:49.360 have to make decisions, which is Roberts' favorite thing to do, is not make decisions.

00:45:52.480 So I think that what Barrett would have done is she could have gotten together with Gorsuch,

00:45:56.360 Alito, Thomas, and said, listen, we're accepting this thing.

00:45:58.900 Roberts doesn't want to see this case in front of the Supreme Court.

00:46:00.880 It doesn't matter.

00:46:01.240 We've got four votes to bring it up.

00:46:02.680 Let's bring it up.

00:46:03.580 Now we have four votes to uphold Roe v. Wade on the left, and we have four votes to overturn

00:46:07.140 Roe v. Wade on the right, and Roberts is going to be the swing vote on that.

00:46:10.220 And let's see where the chips fall.

00:46:11.680 He also seems to be like-minded with Roberts on Obamacare.

00:46:20.820 Yeah.

00:46:21.300 Yeah.

00:46:21.800 Well, I think that, again, it's difficult to read that case in straight-faced fashion,

00:46:27.980 because this is very typical Kavanaugh.

00:46:29.540 Now, what he did in that case is the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals basically upheld Obamacare,

00:46:34.760 and he wrote a dissent.

00:46:36.060 And in the dissent, instead of him saying, no, Obamacare is a pile of crap, instead of him saying that, which is correct,

00:46:40.940 instead what he said was, I can't reach the merits of this case because I don't have jurisdiction.

00:46:45.380 And the reason I don't have jurisdiction is because it falls under the Anti-Injunction Act because it's a tax, not a fine.

00:46:50.200 And that logic, tax, not a fine, was used by Chief Justice Roberts in saying that Obamacare had to be upheld, right?

00:46:56.480 He actually used that logic.

00:46:58.060 That was his key logic in saying that Obamacare was worth upholding.

00:47:01.800 So Kavanaugh, in his attempt to avoid ruling on the case utterly, in his attempt to dissent from greenlighting the case,

00:47:10.260 in fact, ended up providing the logic to Roberts.

00:47:12.800 So his defenders say, well, that was just Kavanaugh trying to be judicially minimalist and restrained by not reaching the merits of the case he didn't think he had jurisdiction over.

00:47:20.660 So he didn't vote the wrong way on the case.

00:47:22.140 The vote itself, if you saw just dissent by Kavanaugh, you think, okay, well, then he probably voted the right way.

00:47:26.620 But the content of the dissent was tailored in this very clever legal fashion in order to avoid responsibility for having to vote on the thing.

00:47:35.100 So this is why I say that I think he's closer to Roberts than Alito.

00:47:39.920 I hope he's closer to Alito than Roberts, but I don't think that he's Kennedy.

00:47:43.240 I don't think he's Souter.

00:47:43.880 So he's been around all of the politicians.

00:47:48.200 And if he were trying to make sure that he had the opportunity to be on the Supreme Court, wouldn't it make sense to rule the way he has and just been very, very narrow?

00:48:04.560 I mean, is it too much to think that, you know, he was just being a very good politician on this?

00:48:11.240 And now that he, because he didn't have the jurisdiction, now that he would have the jurisdiction, those things would play through.

00:48:19.660 Yeah, I mean, that's the hope and that's also the risk, right?

00:48:22.000 The way you get on the Supreme Court these days is by being non-controversial and writing bland opinions and by ensuring that you can get through a confirmation hearing without having to answer any tough questions.

00:48:31.340 And that's going to make people on the right hope that secretly, deep down, Kavanaugh's going to get up there and start busting up the windows.

00:48:40.460 But I don't think that, but on the left, you're at the same time thinking, well, maybe the reason that he's been so restrained is because once he gets here, he's actually going to unleash the full force of his opinions and he's going to tend toward the left.

00:48:50.120 So I'm not a big fan of stealth candidates.

00:48:51.900 I like candidates where I know going in what they think.

00:48:54.280 I think that the right should have a witness test on legal issues.

00:48:56.540 I don't think we should be nominating people who we don't know are going to overturn Roe v. Wade.

00:49:00.900 I think the left has its own witness test.

00:49:02.860 It's absurd.

00:49:03.300 The right doesn't have a witness test.

00:49:04.980 And it's the reason why we've basically gone one for two.

00:49:07.900 The right only bats 500 on judicial appointments.

00:49:10.300 The left bats 1,000 on judicial appointments.

00:49:12.240 There's never been a leftist who's moved to the right on the court.

00:49:16.460 But there have been a bunch of people who were appointed by Republicans who have moved to the left.

00:49:19.500 So my view is that, again, I think that at bare minimum, he'll be another Roberts.

00:49:24.780 He could be better than that, but he could be another Roberts.

00:49:27.300 But it doesn't change.

00:49:33.080 We're being called extremists for a guy that most real constitutional conservatives are like, okay, maybe.

00:49:40.460 I mean, I'm not thrilled about it, but I'm not panicked.

00:49:43.360 I'm just going to have to watch him.

00:49:44.560 They've made him into the biggest evil character in America today that I think was ABC said could be responsible for, what was it, killing millions?

00:49:57.800 Yeah, that was.

00:49:59.620 Exactly.

00:50:00.400 They were saying killing millions.

00:50:02.120 There are people who are saying that he was.

00:50:03.860 I'm saying it was Justin Miller, one of these reporters at Daily Beast, I think, who is suggesting that he could be responsible for the banning of contraceptives in America.

00:50:10.680 The guy wrote an opinion in which he said, in the opinion, it was a compelling government interest for the government to provide contraceptives.

00:50:17.460 The level of absurdity to which the left has sunk is so extraordinary at this point.

00:50:22.460 This is why I say Trump should have just gone for it.

00:50:24.380 If they're going to think of this level of absurdity, then you may as well just go for the person you know is going to vote your way 100% of the time.

00:50:29.080 You may as well just pick Mike Lee.

00:50:30.360 Because if they're going to go crazy anyway, then you may as well.

00:50:33.360 Don't just rent the libs. 0.96

00:50:34.320 Own the libs.

00:50:34.860 They're going to put themselves up for a sale.

00:50:36.480 Ben, a little disappointed, and I think if they do reject, because I'm for Barrett, I know you were for Barrett, but if the Democrats and the Republicans reject this candidate because he's too radical, I think we should go right to you.

00:50:54.200 I think you should be dominated because it would set the precedence of don't screw with me.

00:51:02.260 You didn't like that one guy?

00:51:04.980 Wait until I show you what's next.

00:51:07.040 I mean, I will say the ratings for the hearings would just be extraordinary.

00:51:12.600 Mr. Shapiro, what do you think of Roller-Royce?

00:51:14.860 I think it's total garbage from beginning to end.

00:51:17.020 You know, I said this to my kids the other day, and they were like, but Dad, he's not an attorney.

00:51:22.920 And I said, well, you don't have to be an attorney.

00:51:25.400 You don't have to be a judge or an attorney or anything.

00:51:28.660 The president could pick anybody.

00:51:30.620 Oh, no, this is the good news, right?

00:51:32.500 I could do it.

00:51:33.720 Let's do it, man.

00:51:34.560 I'm an attorney.

00:51:35.380 I'm a Harvard Law attorney.

00:51:36.380 Let's do this thing.

00:51:37.740 But you don't have to be, do you?

00:51:39.920 I know.

00:51:40.500 No, you don't have to be an attorney.

00:51:41.840 In fact, you don't have to be a judge.

00:51:44.380 You don't have to be anything.

00:51:45.580 There's no legal qualification that is required.

00:51:48.760 Right.

00:51:49.020 Here's the good news.

00:51:49.600 If Trump wants to maintain that Harvard-Yale balance on the court that he seems so concerned with, then we can make this happen.

00:51:55.940 My hat's still in the ring.

00:51:57.400 And if you haven't followed through, go with me.

00:52:00.640 Thanks a lot, Ben.

00:52:01.440 I appreciate it.

00:52:02.360 Thanks a lot.

00:52:03.120 I really think that should be our stance.

00:52:06.240 I think that should be our stance.

00:52:07.520 I think everyone should, we should all just gather together and go, okay, well, if it's not him, Ben Shapiro, that will scare the living daylights out of it.

00:52:16.960 Because Ben Shapiro could run circles around any of them in a hearing.

00:52:21.720 He's right.

00:52:22.220 It would be, it would be like the Super Bowl, a hearing for Supreme Court justice nominee Ben Shapiro.

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00:54:26.800 So, Jimmy Carter, always relevant, is...

00:54:36.020 Especially at 163 now.

00:54:39.020 He is, you know, he's always relevant.

00:54:40.920 And he was just asked about Jesus and what Jesus would do.

00:54:46.420 Here's a little bit of Jimmy Carter.

00:54:47.920 I never have run across any really serious conflicts between my political obligations and my religious faith.

00:54:55.400 How about gay marriage?

00:54:56.800 That's no problem with me.

00:54:58.440 You know, I think everybody should have a right to get married, regardless of their sex.

00:55:04.440 And the only thing I would draw a line on, I wouldn't be in favor of the government being able to force a local church congregation to perform gay marriages if they didn't want to.

00:55:14.200 But those two partners should be able to go to the local courthouse or to a different church and get married. 1.00

00:55:20.740 That's no problem.

00:55:21.560 I have had a problem with abortion.

00:55:23.960 You know, and this has been a long-time problem of mine.

00:55:26.360 I have a hard time believing that Jesus, for instance, would approve abortions unless it was because of rape or incest or if the mother's life was in danger.

00:55:39.520 So I've had that struggle.

00:55:41.000 But my oath of office was to obey the Constitution and the laws of its country as interpreted by the Supreme Court.

00:55:49.240 So I went along with that.

00:55:50.960 But that's been the only caveat.

00:55:52.340 So when I was in the Constitution.

00:55:52.840 Would Jesus approve gay marriage?

00:55:54.900 I believe he would.

00:55:56.520 I believe Jesus would.

00:55:57.460 I don't have any verse in Scripture.

00:55:59.920 No, no, no.

00:56:00.360 But just intuitively, yeah.

00:56:01.800 I believe that Jesus would approve gay marriage.

00:56:05.240 But I'm not.

00:56:06.820 That's just my own personal belief.

00:56:08.140 That's interesting.

00:56:08.600 I think Jesus would encourage any sort of love affair if it was honest and sincere and was not damaging to anyone else.

00:56:17.100 And I don't see that gay marriage damages anyone else.

00:56:20.120 Okay.

00:56:20.760 Well, that's an interesting take on.

00:56:22.600 It is.

00:56:23.280 It's not a biblical one, but it is interesting.

00:56:25.680 But it is an interesting take.

00:56:26.860 You know, but before he started in on what Jesus would do, you know, his take on should a gay couple be able to get married, I'm with him.

00:56:37.360 Yes, just the government needs to get out of all marriages. 1.00

00:56:42.480 We need to reduce the federal and governmental involvement in our lives.

00:56:49.520 So I don't care what you do in your own life.

00:56:52.420 The government has no place in my marriage.

00:56:55.480 It surely shouldn't have anything to do with yours.

00:56:58.520 And as long as my church isn't forced to perform the marriages or, you know, a gay church that doesn't want to marry, I don't know, you know, heterosexual people, they shouldn't be forced.

00:57:11.460 Or a baker that doesn't want to make a cake for one and participate in the ceremony shouldn't have to.

00:57:16.940 Yeah, it's called right of conscience.

00:57:19.620 And what I think Jesus would be upset about is a government saying you have to say certain things.

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00:58:34.140 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:58:36.080 It's quite a program today.

00:58:37.040 We've had Mike Lee on.

00:58:38.060 If you missed any of it, make sure you grab the podcast at the iTunes store, glennbeck.com,

00:58:42.700 or you can find it at theblaze.com.

00:58:45.400 But don't miss a second today.

00:58:46.920 We started with Mike Lee.

00:58:48.480 We had Ben Shapiro.

00:58:49.420 Coming up in about a half hour is Dave Rubin.

00:58:51.660 But I want to introduce you to a couple of really remarkable people, Aaron Hale and McKaylee Hale.

00:58:58.460 They are the CEO and co-founders of Extraordinary Delights.

00:59:05.180 But I want to, before we get to even what that is, I want to introduce you to Aaron, who was Navy, right?

00:59:14.220 And you were a, was he a cook for the Sixth Fleet, right?

00:59:19.840 For the Admiral.

00:59:20.840 Yeah.

00:59:21.660 And you decided that you wanted to serve your country in a little more dangerous way.

00:59:27.940 And you went and you got into the bomb squad or the EOD, right?

00:59:34.660 Yeah.

00:59:35.140 Which is explosives.

00:59:36.500 And in 2011, can he hear me well enough to be able to tell the story?

00:59:43.080 Can you tell the story of what happened, Aaron?

00:59:45.600 Absolutely.

00:59:46.820 That's right.

00:59:47.360 I started off as a Navy cook and then jumped ship and went to Army Explosive Ordnance Disposal and became the military's bomb squad.

00:59:56.180 And in 2011, I was on my third deployment, second time to Afghanistan, when December, I was working on an IED and I had it dismantled and I was just collecting evidence and disposing of the bulk explosive.

01:00:14.640 When a secondary device detonated that hadn't yet been detected and then took my eyesight, cracked my skull in a few places and left me with limited hearing.

01:00:28.120 Okay.

01:00:28.800 So, first of all, why, what made you say that serving in the, I mean, you were the main guy for the Admiral in the Sixth Fleet.

01:00:39.980 Why, why, what made you say, I want to leave the safety of the kitchen and go work on some bombs?

01:00:47.540 A very good question.

01:00:50.640 I, you know, being stationed in Italy and working for a three-star admiral is not, not a very, it's not a hardship duty.

01:00:59.600 Yeah, not at all.

01:01:00.840 And I was having a great time touring around Europe in my free time and cruising the Mediterranean on the flagship while cooking, you know, some great food.

01:01:12.440 But, uh, as both wars were in full swing, I just felt a calling to, to do something a little more direct, a little more, uh, you know, to, to, you know, utilize my skills in, in other ways.

01:01:27.800 So I met some explosive ordnance disposal guys.

01:01:31.020 They, they told me all about the, uh, the field, uh, the, the, the type brotherhood, the technical aspect.

01:01:37.980 And, and it was, I was hooked from the get go.

01:01:40.980 And Mikayla, were you two married at the time?

01:01:43.020 We were not.

01:01:43.840 Um, but Aaron's mom and my mom grew up as childhood friends together in Baltimore.

01:01:48.240 And I've known Aaron since I was born.

01:01:50.860 So we grew up together.

01:01:52.040 That's great.

01:01:52.500 So when this happened, um, you started helping on, on recovery.

01:01:59.640 You taught him how to read again by.

01:02:02.300 Yeah.

01:02:02.700 Um, so in 2015, Aaron actually came down with bacterial meningitis and it was through the original crack in his.

01:02:10.980 The skull that the bomb, um, caused.

01:02:13.640 And this left him completely deaf on top of being 100% blind.

01:02:19.520 So we were in the hospital for a long time and they wanted to make sure that the bacteria was gone before they would even try to put a cochlear implant in.

01:02:28.600 And the first cochlear implant failed.

01:02:30.720 So Aaron was left without hearing or eyesight.

01:02:33.540 So we came up with this, um, way of communicating where I would write letter by letter into the palm of his hand.

01:02:40.920 So if you can imagine how time consuming it would be to just transcribe an email, um, but we would just write in all capital letters on the palm of his hand to spell out whatever we wanted to say.

01:02:51.380 And it really just started out in the hospital.

01:02:53.540 Like, what's your pain level?

01:02:55.080 One to 10.

01:02:55.840 What is it?

01:02:56.660 And he would tell us.

01:02:58.140 And, um, and then it went into full blown way of communicating for about six months before maybe a year before the cochlear implant worked.

01:03:07.720 The first one they did didn't work at all.

01:03:09.840 So that was really discouraging.

01:03:12.480 And then the second one they did worked, but it's a whole new way of hearing.

01:03:16.540 So we hear, um, acoustically, we can make sense of background music and other people talking and Aaron, um, hears electronically.

01:03:25.600 So, um, it's all kind of the same.

01:03:28.180 So it's, yeah, it's described as a wall of sound that you can't, the background is indistinguishable from the main source.

01:03:35.920 Um, so then when did you guys start making your own fudge of chocolate?

01:03:41.060 This, I will tell you for about a month now, everybody in this building has been talking about the chocolate in the fudge.

01:03:47.180 And I mean, honestly, we've had, you know, some pretty big people come through the doors.

01:03:51.940 I don't think anybody in this building has been more excited to have you guys bring fudge, uh, than anybody else who's walked through these doors.

01:03:59.160 When did that happen?

01:04:00.080 Yeah, that's a great story, Aaron.

01:04:01.620 Well, uh, uh, right after the meningitis and I was back out of the hospital and I was at home in complete darkness and, and now complete silence.

01:04:14.840 It's a pretty lonely place, a pretty, pretty awful place to be.

01:04:18.600 It was tough when all of the tools and techniques that, uh, I'd, I'd learned over the last, you know, the previous four years of being blind.

01:04:27.260 Most of it was audio based.

01:04:29.660 I didn't even, uh, have the, the need, the necessity to learn braille, which would have been a good idea after the fact.

01:04:37.900 But, uh, um, there I was just sitting in my, you know, at the kitchen counter feeling down, uh, if you know, the, the, the why me's the, and the what ifs start creeping in.

01:04:50.400 And I needed something to do.

01:04:52.380 Uh, so I fell back on my old, uh, love, my old skills of, uh, of cooking, got into the kitchen and it was, it was, uh, right about the holidays.

01:05:03.020 And we'd invited tons of friends and family and we're going to make this huge feast.

01:05:07.840 And I got into it for the first time in probably six months.

01:05:12.780 Michaela had seen a smile on my face while I was making all this stuffing, the turkey and all these desserts.

01:05:20.000 I was making desserts weeks in advance.

01:05:22.540 And so much fudge was coming out of that kitchen.

01:05:25.680 Then Michaela was sneaking it out the front door.

01:05:27.940 I say sneaking, I'm a blind deaf guy.

01:05:31.360 You don't have to be.

01:05:32.980 I'm leaving with the fudge.

01:05:34.500 Exactly.

01:05:35.300 Yeah, right, right.

01:05:36.220 You don't, you don't have to be real stealthy, but, uh, uh, she was giving it away to our neighbors, to friends.

01:05:43.160 And they were coming back and asking, can we buy some more of this for our party or, and, and, you know, being a, uh, capitalist mindset and said, well, of course you may.

01:05:55.160 And that's, that's just how it got started.

01:05:58.820 And so the name of the company is EOD.

01:06:02.040 Yes.

01:06:02.520 So Aaron was an explosive ordinance disposal in the army and we did a play on words and now it's Extraordinary Delights or EOD fudge.

01:06:11.320 We started with fudge.

01:06:12.440 Now we make a lot of different chocolates.

01:06:14.400 Yeah.

01:06:14.540 Really good.

01:06:15.320 It's fun.

01:06:15.720 Really, really good.

01:06:16.540 So, uh, you know, they say that people who are really, truly mentally healthy don't have to turn on the radio.

01:06:27.660 They can be alone with their own thoughts.

01:06:30.020 Hmm.

01:06:31.220 How much of a prison was it to be without sight and without sound and only surrounded by your own thoughts?

01:06:43.640 Well, it is, it is absolutely difficult.

01:06:47.900 Um, and I think it was, uh, there's a Dr. Viktor Frankl said that suffering ceases to be suffering once years, there's meaning behind it.

01:07:00.160 Uh, I blame the TBI for not getting the quote exactly right.

01:07:04.620 But, uh, uh, um, it's true.

01:07:08.480 So, uh, I, I focused on family.

01:07:11.660 I focused on something to do and it made the suffering and made the struggle a little bit less difficult to bear.

01:07:20.400 And, uh, it's, it's the strength of my family, my beautiful wife and my, my wonderful son.

01:07:27.040 And at what point did you guys get married?

01:07:28.840 We got married in October of last year.

01:07:31.400 Of last year where you're already doing the, the, uh, EOD.

01:07:33.920 Yeah, yeah, we've been doing that since 2015 and it's grown more than I ever thought it would.

01:07:40.800 Um, we originally just started out of a place of needing Aaron to have a mission again.

01:07:46.400 And from there we were getting ordered a thousand pounds from Boeing company, a thousand pounds from Blue Buffalo dog food company.

01:07:55.240 And, um, I was like, we need a logo.

01:07:57.680 We need boxes.

01:07:58.540 We need like, we, I need to learn about chocolate.

01:08:00.360 So Aaron and I went to chocolate school together and we learned all about, um, the intricacies of working with chocolate.

01:08:06.800 Has your taste, uh, gone up?

01:08:09.780 Have your taste buds been enhanced now that you've lost your sight and your hearing?

01:08:15.780 Do you think there's, you're more finely tuned and smell and taste?

01:08:20.660 You certainly, uh, pay more attention to the senses you have left.

01:08:25.380 Unfortunately, so much of our senses are interconnected.

01:08:30.240 You know, we, we taste better what we can see.

01:08:34.180 Yeah.

01:08:34.480 Uh, we definitely, uh, taste better what we can smell.

01:08:38.000 And I lost a little bit of my sense of smell in the blast, but I do pay much more attention to the flavors that are going into our food and what I'm cooking.

01:08:48.960 And, uh, and, uh, there's, I, I, I, I taste, I, I taste everything along the way as in the process to make sure it's exactly the way I want it.

01:08:58.980 And, um, well, it's extraordinary, uh, chocolate and pralines and fudge and everything else.

01:09:05.460 How, how do we order?

01:09:07.440 Um, you can go to www.eodfudge.com and order all on the website.

01:09:14.380 Eodfudge.com.

01:09:15.700 Guys, thank you so much.

01:09:16.860 Thank you.

01:09:17.500 You bet.

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01:11:02.580 Wow.

01:11:03.420 I have to tell you, they, uh, they left some fudge here.

01:11:07.240 I, I, I tried to return it to them.

01:11:11.240 Uh, and some of it fell.

01:11:12.380 I didn't notice you were trying to return it.

01:11:15.600 Yeah, it was a holy cow.

01:11:17.160 Is that good?

01:11:18.200 That is delicious.

01:11:19.720 Really good.

01:11:21.000 Uh, it's EOD confections or EOD fudge.com EOD fudge.com.

01:11:27.580 Can you imagine having a cushy, uh, cook job? 0.93

01:11:32.780 You're cooking for the Admiral of the Navy and you decide to, nah, you know, I think I'm

01:11:38.020 going to go to explosive ordinances instead.

01:11:40.720 Wow.

01:11:41.160 So you blow yourself up, you think it's bad, then you get meningitis and you lose your hearing

01:11:49.740 and imagine, I can't imagine what it was like to be alone with your thoughts.

01:11:56.360 You can't, there's nothing you can look at to distract you.

01:12:00.040 Nothing you can listen to that could distract you.

01:12:03.520 I can't even imagine what that would be like.

01:12:05.440 Oh my gosh.

01:12:05.900 It would be horrible.

01:12:07.040 Uh, it seems like a nightmare.

01:12:09.340 Horrible.

01:12:09.740 But here's a guy who has taken it and run with it.

01:12:15.500 He's, he's, oh, this pisses me off.

01:12:18.200 He's solar, uh, solo white water rafting.

01:12:22.160 Yeah.

01:12:22.800 By himself.

01:12:24.660 How do you do that?

01:12:26.540 What do you, I mean, stop it.

01:12:28.480 Stop it.

01:12:29.200 It does make you feel like a slug.

01:12:32.880 It does.

01:12:33.420 And you've got your sight and your sound and.

01:12:36.520 You still don't go white water rafting?

01:12:38.280 Want nothing to do with white water rafting.

01:12:40.340 Yeah.

01:12:40.540 You're like, I don't understand that.

01:12:43.160 Since I have my sight, I'm going to sit on this couch and watch TV.

01:12:46.620 Right.

01:12:47.280 Why would I, why would I go do that?

01:12:49.600 I'll watch you white water rafting.

01:12:50.780 Yeah, that's too dangerous.

01:12:52.320 Can you imagine what, what is that like to white water raft by yourself?

01:12:58.440 You have no idea what's coming.

01:13:01.100 It's like, you know what it would be like?

01:13:03.740 It'd be like space mountain, except you could die around every corner.

01:13:08.140 Yeah.

01:13:10.260 Scary.

01:13:10.980 That's amazing.

01:13:11.920 Amazing.

01:13:12.440 Plus he told a great story about how they were together on one of these trips.

01:13:16.640 Uh, it was some blind guys that went on the trip and then they had one sighted guy that 0.61

01:13:23.640 was driving the truck.

01:13:24.840 Right.

01:13:25.340 And they, they went into a, a restaurant, was it?

01:13:28.700 And, and, uh, the sighted guy was in the restaurant with a couple of the other blind 0.99

01:13:32.740 guys.

01:13:33.060 And then three of the blind guys moved the truck to hide it from the sighted guy.

01:13:38.660 And they moved the truck by, by tapping on the bumpers on either side with their canes.

01:13:43.900 Right.

01:13:44.120 And, and that's how he was able to navigate the blind guy who was driving, was able to 0.52

01:13:48.680 navigate and hide the truck.

01:13:50.660 I love that.

01:13:52.000 That's great.

01:13:52.680 Love that.

01:13:52.980 Love to hear people.

01:13:54.060 I mean, it really, it makes you look at people like this and say, what is wrong with me?

01:14:00.600 Yeah.

01:14:01.240 What have I, what am I complaining about?

01:14:04.180 And starting your own business and having it be successful.

01:14:09.840 A thousand pounds from, uh, Boeing and from Boeing before you even, before you even have

01:14:15.340 boxes.

01:14:16.840 Uh, anyway, check it out and, uh, and spread the word about this, uh, this company and this

01:14:22.100 amazing couple.

01:14:22.960 E O D fudge.com E O D fudge.com.

01:14:26.960 All right.

01:14:27.680 Dave Rubin is, uh, coming up in, um, in just a second.

01:14:31.260 We're going to talk to him a little bit about, uh, the Supreme court, but, but more importantly,

01:14:36.800 classic liberalism and, and what it means when, when somebody like Ted Cruz says, I don't want

01:14:43.700 a conservative on the Supreme court.

01:14:46.360 I want a constitutionalist.

01:14:48.100 I want somebody who is a classic liberal, classic liberalism was a term that was taken

01:14:55.060 and destroyed by FDR, but it is what libertarians used to be at constitutionalists, classic liberalism.

01:15:04.920 We'll talk about a, a new movement in America that is really starting to have an impact.

01:15:13.700 With classic liberalism.

01:15:15.460 When we come back, Glenn batch, listen, listen for it.

01:15:22.000 Can hear it somewhere, the bickering, the constant whining and complaining nonstop.

01:15:34.140 What is it?

01:15:36.500 Oh, it's Washington.

01:15:37.860 The conservative pundits say that we need a conservative Supreme court justice.

01:15:44.400 That's outrageous.

01:15:46.460 President Trump's legacy depends on it.

01:15:49.340 Our country will crumble without it.

01:15:51.460 Meanwhile, the liberals say Trump is Hitler.

01:15:54.760 He plans to resurrect Judas specifically for that role.

01:15:59.260 That's what he did.

01:16:00.220 Senior editor at media research center noted, quote, as with all recent Republican nominees,

01:16:07.260 reporters will repeatedly label them as conservative, which will nicely reinforce a democratic strategy

01:16:12.940 to paint them as outside the mainstream.

01:16:15.600 One study found that Roberts, Alito and Gorsuch were called conservative 36 times on ABC, CBS and NBC

01:16:22.380 within 24 hours of their nomination, while Sotomayor, Kagan and Garland were only labor liberal seven times total using the same parameters.

01:16:32.900 Even in a mostly positive article about Trump's pick, Judge Barrett Kavanaugh or Brett Kavanaugh, USA Today couldn't resist the urge to slip in the word conservative into the title.

01:16:47.000 The partisan partisan jockeying back and forth is just as bad on the right as it is on the left on this.

01:16:54.320 And it's it's misguided.

01:16:56.280 When we look for a Supreme Court justice, we should not be looking for the most conservative.

01:17:06.140 We should be looking for the one that is constitutional.

01:17:13.060 Because a conservative legacy is not what matters.

01:17:18.440 We shouldn't want a liberal or a conservative.

01:17:21.280 This is what causes these great swings in our society.

01:17:24.380 We want somebody who looks at the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, understands them and protects them.

01:17:36.800 It's Tuesday, July 10th.

01:17:39.220 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:17:41.480 There's something happening in the country and the mainstream media just doesn't even see it.

01:17:46.460 And what it is, is it's it's splintering.

01:17:49.840 It's splintering in a million different directions.

01:17:52.740 One is this this walk away movement with the Democrats, where Democrats are starting to say, I just can't do it anymore.

01:18:02.120 They don't really know where to go.

01:18:04.380 Some of them are just going in and following into the Republican Party.

01:18:09.820 I think a vast majority in the end, we're all going to be kind of staying away from the parties and just say, I just I just want truth and freedom, which would put you in place with the Constitution.

01:18:23.580 And a guy who was really early on this was Dave Rubin.

01:18:26.920 Hello, Dave.

01:18:27.380 How are you?

01:18:28.860 How's it going, my friend?

01:18:30.200 Would you consider yourself always a constitutional or a or a classic liberal?

01:18:38.180 Well, I don't know about always.

01:18:39.700 I mean, we discussed my political evolution a couple of times.

01:18:43.740 And, you know, I definitely firmly was on the left.

01:18:47.240 I was a liberal.

01:18:49.020 But, you know, we know how that word has been changed around.

01:18:51.840 But I really I was a progressive and I was on the Young Turks Network, which in my estimation these days is a pretty far left organization.

01:18:59.580 And when you come from that perspective, the leftist perspective, it's really not rooted in the Constitution.

01:19:07.500 It's sort of rooted in what do you kind of feel is right at any given moment.

01:19:12.220 This is where Ben Shapiro's, you know, facts don't care about your feelings really hits home.

01:19:17.920 It's like most of the things that the left these days and I say the left and I don't mean every single person on the left, of course.

01:19:25.840 And, you know, we all get caught in the words.

01:19:27.460 And your intro to this was was on point because I think people are going to flee the parties.

01:19:32.320 And the paradigm that we've always had of left and right isn't really making sense anymore.

01:19:37.780 You know, it really is you are either for liberty or for freedom and you're for how you want to live without impinging and impugning on anyone else's rights or you want the state to deal with everything.

01:19:50.040 So I don't know that I thought of things through the constitutional prison way back when I just thought, oh, this seems right.

01:19:57.500 You know, oh, I want to help poor people.

01:19:59.940 So the government must do it or whatever it was where I want to help gay people.

01:20:03.980 So the government must do it.

01:20:05.360 And it wasn't it didn't really have a backing of what the laws are.

01:20:09.380 That's why your intro to this and related to the Supreme Court's decision right now is so right.

01:20:13.720 It's not about whether we should have a conservative or a liberal.

01:20:18.360 It's about do we have someone that has the mental acumen basically to understand what the laws are and not write laws, but defend the laws.

01:20:29.880 That's the whole purpose of three branches of government.

01:20:32.060 That's why the the judiciary exists, not to write laws. 0.98

01:20:37.020 That's, of course, for the for the legislature.

01:20:39.420 That's for the Senate and the Congress.

01:20:41.060 So we need people that will will uphold the system that we have in place, because although it is not perfect, I would argue there's no such thing as a perfect system.

01:20:49.700 It's pretty damn good.

01:21:19.700 groups of of people with different ideologies.

01:21:22.040 So you've got the Trump people and the MAGA people.

01:21:25.120 OK, that's one.

01:21:25.920 That's a pretty clear one.

01:21:27.080 Then you've got all the never Trump conservatives.

01:21:29.100 And that's a pretty strong group of people, too.

01:21:31.620 And then I think you have the group that probably where you and I are a little more in line, which is basically the libertarian classical liberals that aren't saying we're part of this party or anything else.

01:21:41.260 But there's a there's just it's a rooted and limited government and your rights as an individual.

01:21:45.680 That's that's three really distinct groups of people that are fighting it out for what the right is these days.

01:21:52.740 The left, unfortunately, really has the Democratic Socialists, so the Bernie's and the Elizabeth Warren's and Keith Ellison's, et cetera.

01:22:00.760 And then there's this there's a tiny but almost completely gone minority of what I would say are the sort of decent liberals.

01:22:08.420 But I don't know where they are.

01:22:10.800 I mean, where are all the blue dog Democrats? 0.98

01:22:12.800 There seemingly is nobody left.

01:22:15.280 I think some of them exist, but they've just been cowed into silence.

01:22:18.600 But I think for the health of the system, we need those people to come back because you need you need a good fight on both sides.

01:22:25.900 And I wish we could see it again.

01:22:27.320 So do you think that with this this rapid embrace of socialism, you know, shutting down ice?

01:22:37.200 I mean, all of this stuff looks pretty crazy, I think, to the average person and the stances that the Democrats are now taking.

01:22:46.860 It doesn't it it doesn't make it easy for them to say that they're in the center because they're not.

01:22:54.140 Do you think they're overplaying their hand, Dave?

01:22:57.320 Oh, yeah, there's no doubt.

01:22:59.960 I mean, look, if your choice is basically whatever Trump wants on immigration or open borders, let's say you're just an apolitical person, right?

01:23:08.980 You don't really care about politics.

01:23:10.420 You're you're busy doing other things.

01:23:12.100 But then someone presents you with that question.

01:23:14.600 Do you want some situation that Trump's doing where we're going to have tighter border controls?

01:23:19.120 Maybe there's going to be this wall.

01:23:20.460 But who the hell knows if that's going to happen?

01:23:22.520 You know, he's basically doing the same exact things that Obama and Bill Clinton did anyway.

01:23:26.840 But, yes, does he speak about it in a sloppy, often offensive way?

01:23:31.860 Sure.

01:23:32.500 But if your choice, if you're just the average person, right, not not the political who knows the ins and outs of everything, you're just the average person.

01:23:39.700 And your choice is between that what Trump is offering or open borders, which almost is where the Democrats are at this point.

01:23:47.320 I mean, Keith Ellison, you know, he almost became the head of the DNC just last week or about 10 days ago.

01:23:53.260 He was wearing a shirt that in Spanish.

01:23:56.280 I'm going to miss it slightly, but it was in effect.

01:23:58.660 It said, I don't believe in borders.

01:24:00.080 Borders don't exist.

01:24:01.800 I don't care what language he's putting that in.

01:24:03.760 But that that is a radically extreme idea.

01:24:07.760 Borders exist because nations exist.

01:24:10.180 So if your argument is that nations don't exist, well, should we just be able to wander into Canada or should we have Mexicans be able to just wander into this country? 0.81

01:24:19.160 I mean, that's a truly radical position.

01:24:21.860 But if I've learned anything in the last couple of years, and it's really what put me on the map and what what made people like you know who I am, is that as I think I was an early adopter of seeing what was going on on the left because I was part of it and I was really in it.

01:24:36.620 And I kept saying, you know, these are the problems.

01:24:39.640 We have to stop labeling everybody racist.

01:24:41.980 We have to stop calling everyone homophobes and all the rest of this.

01:24:45.420 And then we have to really get to the what are we really talking about here?

01:24:48.940 It can't everything can't just be the easy bumper sticker answer.

01:24:52.580 And unfortunately, they have just doubled down and doubled down and doubled down.

01:24:57.980 And you would have thought and I did a video about this, I think, the day after the election, Trump's election, that you would have thought maybe there would have been a moment of reflection where they would say, you know, this just maybe we've played our hand too much, et cetera.

01:25:12.520 And no, they just decided to go in the other way.

01:25:15.820 And what what makes me hopeful about this is is what I mentioned before about what I see on the right, that there is there is a true battle of ideas happening on the right.

01:25:25.420 Right.

01:25:26.140 And it's a beautiful thing.

01:25:28.020 And so, you know, when I see all these the never Trumpers hating the Trumpers and then this and that, it's like, guys, if we could just tone the rhetoric down a little bit, you're actually you're actually doing the right thing because you're not out on the street killing each other.

01:25:40.980 You're fighting for what you believe in.

01:25:43.200 Yes.

01:25:43.560 And that's that's really, really great.

01:25:46.120 So that's where for me right now, that's where my energies are, because I can see such great alliances.

01:25:50.640 And that's why I'm you know, I'm thrilled that we've been doing more together and that this growing group of of the intellectual dark web, as it's called, is a group of people all over the political map.

01:26:01.800 And we're just we're just trying to play the game a little bit differently because the other game, it's old and it's tired and it's just not working.

01:26:10.500 David, so extraordinary to hear a former member of, you know, the Young Turks speak like this for those people who are new to this party.

01:26:20.640 What was it that finally snapped in your mind and and turned you around?

01:26:27.800 There were a couple of things.

01:26:29.500 I mean, the night that it all changed for me, you know, I can actually pinpoint the actual moment that if I if I really riddled it down, I could probably give you the exact minute of the day.

01:26:40.420 It's almost like you could remember.

01:26:42.000 It's almost like when you have a huge change, you can remember what the room even looks like in the wallpaper.

01:26:47.440 Yeah, it's a tipping point.

01:26:48.860 Yes.

01:26:49.640 Okay, good.

01:26:50.640 Exactly.

01:26:51.420 It was it was at about 1047 Eastern September something a couple of years back.

01:26:59.080 So Sam Harris, the neuroscientist and author famous for being a quote new atheist.

01:27:07.540 He was on real time with Bill Maher to discuss.

01:27:10.560 He was actually on to discuss his book, his book called Waking Up, A Guide to Spirituality Without Religion.

01:27:15.920 So his book was about inner peace, basically.

01:27:19.280 Ben Affleck was on the other side of the table.

01:27:21.560 They started talking about religion, Islam in particular.

01:27:24.360 And long story short, Ben basically called Bill Maher and Sam Harris gross and racist, because they were discussing radical Islam.

01:27:35.020 And Sam was talking about how you have to be able to separate people and ideas.

01:27:38.640 So of course, you have to be able to criticize Islam, which is a set of ideas, just like you should be able to criticize the set of ideas that make up Christianity or make up Judaism or any other religion. 0.80

01:27:51.420 I mean, it's a set of ideas and ideas should be criticized.

01:27:54.660 No idea should just stand above us to control us.

01:27:58.240 But that doesn't mean you should be able to discriminate against people.

01:28:02.260 I mean, I guess you can discriminate against people, but that's not the right thing to do.

01:28:05.640 You should separate ideas and people.

01:28:08.020 In effect, Affleck called Bill Maher and Sam Harris gross and racist.

01:28:13.760 And what I saw happen almost immediately, and I didn't even know who Sam Harris was at the time, is that the entire media and the entire leftist establishment started turning on Bill, turning on Sam.

01:28:25.620 And I saw, wow, here were two people who are who are lefties.

01:28:29.360 I mean, Bill Maher, for all the disagreements that you must have with him, Glenn, this is a guy who's been the standard bearer of sort of mainstream leftism forever, liberalism, whatever you want to call it.

01:28:40.560 And now suddenly he is being thrown under the bus because he took one position, which was which wasn't even a really controversial position.

01:28:47.620 It was just a confused position by Affleck.

01:28:50.440 And then once I saw the way the feeding frenzy to destroy their own without being principled, without even listening to the argument, once I saw that, I suddenly saw it everywhere in almost every argument that I could hear on the left and the way that they would treat everyone on the right.

01:29:10.180 Every single Republican politician, every single conservative, guys like you, guys like Prager, Shapiro, everybody, that there was never a counter argument.

01:29:19.640 It was always that they were a bigot.

01:29:22.340 They were a racist.

01:29:23.540 They hated women. 1.00

01:29:24.580 They hated gays.

01:29:26.140 And suddenly it started.

01:29:27.840 I mean, it's a house of cards.

01:29:29.120 And once you pull out that first card, the rest falls very quickly.

01:29:33.380 And that doesn't mean that the right or conservatives or Republicans have all the answers.

01:29:39.100 They absolutely do not.

01:29:41.180 But if this is what I always expected, my guys to be a little bit better in this case, my guys being the liberals.

01:29:47.120 And once I saw it, it crumbled very quickly.

01:29:51.180 And and then that really put me on the path to where I'm at now, which really, you know, it's somewhere between a classical liberal and a libertarian.

01:30:01.220 But basically what I believe is in freedom, you can live how you feel you should live.

01:30:07.400 And you just can't come on my property and you can't kill me.

01:30:10.620 But in effect, the government, that's what the government's supposed to protect at its most basic level.

01:30:15.760 And that's about it.

01:30:17.240 And the more you go to that, I think you'll find more creative people.

01:30:21.280 You'll find more.

01:30:22.040 You'll find happier people.

01:30:23.380 You'll find people that are willing to live and let live and willing to accept differences and and agree to disagree.

01:30:29.300 And that's why I'm hopeful these days, because, again, from your intro, like people are tired of the lunacy.

01:30:36.240 And I think we just got to give them a little bit of a roadmap to get out of it.

01:30:40.600 Dave Rubin, the host of the Rubin Report, which is the biggest talk show about free speech and big ideas on YouTube.

01:30:47.060 Now, the Rubin Report, make sure you check him out.

01:30:51.040 Also, where where can I find the classic liberal cartoon?

01:30:54.640 I saw it this morning.

01:30:56.420 Somebody sent it to me.

01:30:57.400 And we just posted it this morning.

01:30:59.900 It's our first ever animated short.

01:31:01.820 And it's about two and a half minutes.

01:31:03.960 I explained classical liberalism.

01:31:05.480 And you'll appreciate this because I'm doing so many things.

01:31:08.580 And I'm on tour with Peterson right now.

01:31:10.320 And, you know, all the copy editing and all that is on me.

01:31:13.120 I did, of course, make one factual error because I was writing so much of this on the plane and everything else.

01:31:18.860 I said that Thomas Jefferson put the pursuit of happiness in the Constitution.

01:31:22.060 But, of course, it's in the Declaration of Independence.

01:31:24.960 What a dope.

01:31:26.760 What a dope.

01:31:27.920 Well, his whole empire is done now.

01:31:30.840 Crumbling down.

01:31:31.820 Yeah, exactly.

01:31:34.060 You know, they're always looking to get you.

01:31:35.920 I know.

01:31:36.540 I did make one little mistake in there.

01:31:38.280 But that being said, it's a real primer.

01:31:40.300 I just wanted to give people a simple, fun primer to some of these ideas.

01:31:45.040 And then it's on you.

01:31:46.140 It's on you as a human to figure out what you believe.

01:31:48.660 You don't have to believe what I believe.

01:31:50.240 But, you know, you want to give people a chance to figure out what they believe.

01:31:53.340 Follow Dave at Rubin Report.

01:31:56.140 Dave Rubin.

01:31:57.320 Thanks so much for being on with us today.

01:31:59.880 Thanks, Glenn.

01:32:00.380 I'll see you soon.

01:32:00.960 You got it.

01:32:02.720 Really great guy.

01:32:03.940 I like him.

01:32:04.540 Really great guy.

01:32:06.040 All right.

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01:33:33.140 Glenn Beck.

01:33:34.480 And I've learned I've learned a lot.

01:33:37.020 By shutting my mouth and listening a little bit more.

01:33:42.040 And I remember when Dave first invited me onto his show and I knew who he was or who he used to be.

01:33:49.760 And he said, you know, no, I've really changed and I really would love to have you on and talk.

01:33:56.880 And I bet you were skeptical of that a little bit.

01:33:58.760 Oh, yeah.

01:33:59.300 Yeah, a lot.

01:34:00.080 But you know me, I am willing to walk into the bus saw if there's a chance.

01:34:05.400 And I thought there was a chance.

01:34:06.700 And we had a great conversation and we're like brothers now.

01:34:10.680 That almost never happens, too.

01:34:12.520 No, you know, you're always you're always promised that like with Katie Couric.

01:34:15.700 Oh, no, she's she.

01:34:17.380 This is not a trap.

01:34:18.300 This is not a gotcha interview.

01:34:20.260 No, you're doing her a favor.

01:34:21.860 And she knows that.

01:34:23.260 Oh, really?

01:34:24.360 Thanks.

01:34:24.940 So anyway, but so I did this and it was very eye opening because if you listen to what he's saying and we know this is true.

01:34:34.000 The left is eating everyone now, including their own big, big rallies that kind of clashed in London over the weekend.

01:34:45.320 And there were some trans people carrying huge banners.

01:34:50.320 It says trans activism erases lesbians and the lesbians who were there happened to take issue with that. 0.76

01:34:57.580 So you had this battle between these two these two extreme left wing groups.

01:35:03.920 And I love it when they eat their own.

01:35:05.840 Yeah, I love it.

01:35:06.320 The lesbians said you a man, no matter what he does to his body, cannot be a lesbian. 1.00

01:35:14.540 Well, wait, wait a minute.

01:35:16.860 What kind of judgment is?

01:35:18.660 Glenn.

01:35:19.020 Holy cow. 0.89

01:35:20.460 Mercury.

01:35:21.640 Not sure how to actually react to this one.

01:35:23.880 J.P. Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon called Bitcoin a fraud and the price fell by 24 percent in the following days.

01:35:29.840 But then J.P. Morgan emerged as one of the most active buyers on behalf of their clients of a fund that tracks the Bitcoin price.

01:35:37.040 George Soros, same thing at the World Economic Forum, said Bitcoin was a bubble.

01:35:40.740 And then his twenty six billion dollar family office reportedly received the green light to buy cryptocurrencies.

01:35:46.240 The experts, I guess, are all over the map when it comes to cryptocurrencies.

01:35:49.400 You need someone who really understands it.

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01:36:21.720 So here's the good news if you're traveling.

01:36:28.360 Airline bathrooms are getting smaller.

01:36:31.480 Yeah.

01:36:31.740 Well, they were so spacious to begin with.

01:36:33.760 You know, you could afford a little less space.

01:36:36.200 Yeah, I thought when you got in there and there was the little lounging couch there, I thought it was a little too big.

01:36:42.960 Yes.

01:36:43.520 You know.

01:36:44.100 Yeah.

01:36:44.440 But I like it when I can't actually turn enough to get my butt even toward the toilet.

01:36:50.920 That is fun, isn't it?

01:36:53.200 Because your seat has also gotten smaller.

01:36:55.560 Right.

01:36:55.780 So you're jammed in between two massive human beings in the middle seat.

01:36:59.880 And, you know, that's comfortable enough.

01:37:02.460 If they could just if they could just make the airline experience more like being jammed into a pipe.

01:37:10.100 That'd be great.

01:37:10.940 Wouldn't that be great?

01:37:11.700 Because it's a miserable experience in the terminal when you're going through security.

01:37:16.340 You get to be felt up.

01:37:17.880 Yeah, but molested.

01:37:18.940 But yeah, I mean, you got to hand it to them.

01:37:21.260 They did warn you.

01:37:22.440 Yeah, they did say that.

01:37:23.160 You know, they said it's in a terminal and makes you think of cancer.

01:37:26.740 It's going to be about as much fun.

01:37:28.940 Right.

01:37:29.540 Right.

01:37:29.880 And we should have known that.

01:37:30.980 We should have known that.

01:37:31.940 So that part is our fault.

01:37:33.140 So then you may not even.

01:37:34.900 So then you're waiting at the gate and you hear the announcement.

01:37:38.400 We've got an overbooked flight today.

01:37:40.620 We need seven volunteers to take some other flight.

01:37:44.900 I got to get home.

01:37:46.380 What do you mean?

01:37:47.720 Wait, why did you overbook the flight?

01:37:50.560 You book as many seats as you have.

01:37:52.760 No, this happens all the time.

01:37:55.040 You go into a really nice restaurant, you know, and you've booked your reservations.

01:38:00.440 I'm like, ah, sorry, we overbooked.

01:38:02.240 Can you come back tomorrow?

01:38:03.580 Actually, they don't.

01:38:05.220 They don't do that.

01:38:06.180 No, they don't do that at the movie theater either.

01:38:08.500 No, when you get your CAT scan, you've taken the day off to go to the doctor's, you know.

01:38:12.440 Sorry, we overbooked CAT scans.

01:38:13.780 We overbooked and the doctor can't see it all today.

01:38:16.820 That doesn't happen either.

01:38:18.100 Really?

01:38:18.620 Yeah.

01:38:18.860 I don't know why the airline industry is the only business that can get away with this.

01:38:23.680 Yeah, we overbooked.

01:38:24.560 We got like three times as many passengers as can fit.

01:38:28.600 What?

01:38:29.520 So now if nobody volunteers, you're forcing me off this flight that I already paid for?

01:38:34.760 I paid for this time and that seat right now.

01:38:39.080 And I got to get home to go to work.

01:38:41.460 I think it's because they're all in on it.

01:38:43.300 I think if there was somebody who said, yeah, our bathroom's not going to get smaller.

01:38:48.120 We're not making it any bigger, but we're not going to make it any smaller.

01:38:52.500 And you know what?

01:38:54.800 We're not going to charge you for absolutely everything.

01:38:58.540 We won't charge you for everything.

01:38:59.720 And we won't overbook.

01:39:00.900 If somebody said that, wouldn't you be more apt to take that?

01:39:05.780 I think you would.

01:39:06.900 Yeah, I think you would.

01:39:08.280 And then you've got the opposite of that, though, like Spirit Airlines, which my wife

01:39:12.020 made the mistake of booking one time.

01:39:14.640 Spirit Airlines.

01:39:15.260 Spirit Airlines.

01:39:15.680 That's kind of like, that's a little like Bob's.

01:39:17.540 Yeah, kind of like Bob's Discount Airline.

01:39:19.460 Yeah, love Bob's Discount Airline.

01:39:21.340 I think parenthetically, it's Bob's Discount Airline and then in parentheses that may or

01:39:25.880 may not make it to your destination.

01:39:27.540 Right.

01:39:27.760 It's something like that.

01:39:28.700 Yeah.

01:39:29.020 Well, I think it's joined with the guy who makes the mattresses.

01:39:33.180 So if the plane's going down, they just throw some mattresses out and hopefully it's a softer

01:39:38.280 land.

01:39:38.680 Hopefully.

01:39:39.260 Hopefully.

01:39:40.260 And it's fun because you get tricked by the price of the actual ticket because the price

01:39:45.420 of the ticket.

01:39:46.140 So you're going from Dallas to New York.

01:39:48.740 It's $1.98.

01:39:50.160 Wow, that's pretty good.

01:39:50.940 But to get a bag of luggage, it's $400.

01:39:53.500 And then if you want to take your purse, it's another $2.50.

01:39:56.640 Right.

01:39:57.240 It's like, and if you want peanuts, $48.

01:40:01.100 Well, no, you can't have peanuts.

01:40:02.400 But you can't have them.

01:40:03.480 You can't have peanuts.

01:40:03.980 We're all out of peanuts.

01:40:04.780 We'll show you a picture of peanuts.

01:40:06.840 Well, not even that.

01:40:07.980 We probably, somebody will, somebody will complain if we have a picture of peanuts.

01:40:11.560 So you don't even get that.

01:40:12.760 I just saw somebody came out.

01:40:15.320 Well, Boeing has just introduced a 787.

01:40:17.640 Have you seen that?

01:40:19.000 Yeah.

01:40:19.860 Gigantic plane.

01:40:21.380 And supposedly there's going to be some room, but you know you're going to pay a huge premium.

01:40:25.640 But I'm kind of willing because if you're traveling somewhere for four, five, or six hours,

01:40:31.900 it is such a miserable experience now on these planes.

01:40:36.980 It is Greyhound bus of the 1950s and 60s.

01:40:40.360 It is.

01:40:40.980 I remember in the 1970s getting onto a Greyhound bus with my mom because she didn't drive.

01:40:45.520 So if we ever went to the city, we would take the Greyhound bus.

01:40:48.380 And it was awful.

01:40:50.340 It was an awful experience.

01:40:52.480 And I think that's the way it is now with airlines.

01:40:56.120 Sadly, it is.

01:40:57.540 And then you've got the stories like happened the other day where they were stranded on the tarmac for three hours.

01:41:03.860 Oh, I love that.

01:41:05.720 Got up to 118 degrees in the plane and they wouldn't let people off.

01:41:10.060 I don't understand that.

01:41:12.860 It's for your own safety.

01:41:15.000 Have them escorted by security or reroute the planes around them or let them go back to the terminal.

01:41:21.200 If it's going to be an hour delay, you shouldn't be stuck on a hot plane for that.

01:41:24.940 With no air conditioning, people are vomiting, passing out, using the aisles for a restroom.

01:41:32.520 It's only 118.

01:41:35.560 That's hot.

01:41:37.200 It's like that for weeks in Phoenix.

01:41:40.900 What's the problem?

01:41:41.860 You can't handle it for a couple of hours?

01:41:44.040 No, I couldn't.

01:41:44.820 Not in a plane.

01:41:45.280 I would go crazy.

01:41:46.400 I would go crazy.

01:41:47.240 Out of my mind.

01:41:47.840 I think they take guns away from people because they're afraid that when you're left on the tarmac, you could go crazy.

01:41:55.780 I wouldn't use a gun, but I guarantee I'd be arrested because I'd be so unruly at that point.

01:42:02.160 After an hour and a half in 118 degree heat with my family there, I think I'd be arrested.

01:42:08.240 It's not that hard to get arrested on a plane.

01:42:10.360 I want to test this.

01:42:11.640 How can we possibly test this?

01:42:14.300 This is too good.

01:42:15.440 By the way, did you see last night, this kind of goes into what we were talking about with Dave Rubin, to where they're just bashing anybody.

01:42:28.080 Last night, the picket signs were out and the crowd was out in front of the Supreme Court before anybody was selected.

01:42:36.520 They didn't even know who didn't matter.

01:42:40.660 Within a couple of minutes, the the Democrats and all of the left organizations had already put out, you know, fundraisers for, hey, you got to join the fight against.

01:42:54.440 And you could tell it was just cut and paste.

01:42:57.820 Put the name in.

01:42:59.000 They were already prepared.

01:43:01.440 It got so bad last night that Shannon Bream actually had to cancel her show or her report.

01:43:07.480 She was from outside.

01:43:09.020 She was on the steps where they usually do it for the Supreme Court. 0.97

01:43:13.360 And she said, I've been a lot of places, but I have never felt this unsafe at a broadcast.

01:43:19.480 And I don't feel safe.

01:43:22.040 So she went back to the studio because I think she's right.

01:43:26.440 I don't think it would have been safe for a Fox News personality to be on those steps.

01:43:30.640 Play the audio again.

01:43:31.740 Listen, I mean, you can't even understand what they're saying.

01:43:33.540 So ridiculous.

01:43:48.540 Our choice, not Trump's choice.

01:43:51.880 Maybe.

01:43:52.180 I think that's one of the things.

01:43:53.280 That's one of that's the women screaming that. 1.00

01:43:55.180 Yeah.

01:43:55.380 I have no idea what the guys are saying.

01:43:57.220 I don't either.

01:43:57.880 I don't know.

01:43:58.620 But I wish I was part of that.

01:44:01.260 Well, your family would be so proud of you.

01:44:03.380 Wouldn't really?

01:44:04.200 So proud.

01:44:04.680 Wouldn't they?

01:44:04.880 Yeah, they would.

01:44:06.240 They would.

01:44:07.340 Who's doing this?

01:44:09.540 Seriously.

01:44:10.560 Who do you know that is normal that is doing this?

01:44:15.100 Yeah.

01:44:16.120 I don't think anybody.

01:44:17.240 I don't know that many leftists, though.

01:44:19.760 No, but.

01:44:20.260 And those are the only ones who do it.

01:44:21.540 No, no, no.

01:44:21.940 Right.

01:44:22.240 It's not out there screaming about this.

01:44:24.120 But if it was something, if it was something else, they were putting, you know, well, Elena

01:44:29.740 Kagan, we didn't do this.

01:44:31.760 Sonia Sotomayor.

01:44:32.900 We didn't do this.

01:44:33.680 Who's left of Ginsburg.

01:44:36.260 We didn't do that.

01:44:37.560 Not at all.

01:44:38.160 And she was overwhelmingly confirmed by the Senate.

01:44:43.980 And so was, you know, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, for that matter.

01:44:47.740 96 to 3 for Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

01:44:50.640 The right doesn't do this.

01:44:52.460 We've got better things to do.

01:44:53.720 Like, I don't know, go to our jobs.

01:44:55.760 I just don't think I could be that pissed all the time.

01:45:01.240 To where I had to go and I had to scream.

01:45:04.240 I don't even know who they're going to.

01:45:06.500 Or to wait outside a restaurant for, let's say, Nancy Pelosi. 0.99

01:45:10.100 And then start yelling at her when she comes out of the restaurant.

01:45:12.520 Would you ever consider doing that?

01:45:14.220 No.

01:45:14.340 Not in a million years would I do that.

01:45:15.720 No.

01:45:16.460 I don't like Nancy Pelosi. 0.98

01:45:17.820 But I'm not waiting for her to come out of a restaurant.

01:45:21.080 And then ask her where all the babies are.

01:45:23.000 Where's the 60 million babies you support being murdered?

01:45:26.180 Try to think of this.

01:45:27.820 Do you know anybody living or dead but died in your lifetime?

01:45:33.200 Is there anybody that you would do that to?

01:45:38.040 Where you would, like, I'm staying here.

01:45:40.040 I am.

01:45:40.800 I've got to speak out.

01:45:42.280 I can't think of anybody.

01:45:43.860 Anybody in the world.

01:45:45.280 No.

01:45:45.900 I mean, we were pretty upset by Barack Obama and wouldn't have considered doing this.

01:45:53.520 Never.

01:45:54.260 You know, we've always admitted how, you know, okay, we got kind of carried away during the

01:45:58.240 Obama administration.

01:45:59.460 We were concerned about him.

01:46:01.040 And there was a lot to be concerned about.

01:46:03.240 The guy was a Marxist.

01:46:05.480 And we never got to this level.

01:46:08.880 It's a year and a half into Trump's presidency.

01:46:11.940 And they're completely unglued.

01:46:14.480 It's complete chaos.

01:46:15.780 This is on the left now.

01:46:17.720 I've never seen anything like it.

01:46:20.220 And, you know, that's why people are afraid.

01:46:23.080 What was it?

01:46:23.840 Remember the survey a couple weeks ago that came out?

01:46:26.240 48% of Americans believe we're headed for civil war in the next five years.

01:46:29.840 Yeah.

01:46:29.960 And 11% say it's absolutely assured.

01:46:33.260 Yeah.

01:46:33.520 I don't, we haven't had that since the civil war.

01:46:38.900 So it's time to get a grip on it.

01:46:41.160 You know what the difference is, too?

01:46:42.260 In the 1960s, they didn't control the media.

01:46:45.700 Right.

01:46:46.540 They control the media now.

01:46:48.740 And so the media, there's no one pushing back on these guys.

01:46:52.580 There's no one.

01:46:53.220 And for us, during Obama, there was somebody to push back.

01:46:56.760 The media.

01:46:57.420 Yeah.

01:46:58.200 Anytime, anything outrageous.

01:47:00.000 Kind of keeps you in check.

01:47:01.180 Yeah.

01:47:01.920 I was reading, I got a tweet.

01:47:05.140 Hang on.

01:47:05.720 See if I can find it.

01:47:06.740 From, from Stelter.

01:47:11.100 From CNN.

01:47:12.300 Brian Stelter.

01:47:12.900 Yeah.

01:47:13.240 I saw this tweet from him and I thought, this is, this is, this is insanity.

01:47:18.180 This is, and they don't, they just don't get it.

01:47:23.860 Let's see if I can find out what it was.

01:47:25.960 He said, shoot, I'll have to look for it.

01:47:33.200 It was, it was so, so unaware of, of who they are and what they're doing and, and how closed

01:47:48.600 they, their system is, you know, they're just all in this pool and everyone thinks alike

01:47:54.540 and they just, they are just, they just are so self-righteous in, no, we're right.

01:48:01.880 There's no even reason to even listen to anybody else.

01:48:04.940 We're just right.

01:48:06.600 No, you're, you are way out in space.

01:48:10.760 They don't know that though, because they only talk to like-minded people.

01:48:15.400 They won't go on any sort of opposition media.

01:48:19.820 They won't, they don't have any friends who are conservative.

01:48:22.800 They just can't imagine talking to anybody who disagrees with them, which is, I think

01:48:27.740 why they're so, I want to talk to, I want to find somebody, maybe we'll find a,

01:48:31.880 somebody who is a historian that can tell us first a little bit about it, a democratic

01:48:35.960 socialist, but I would love to talk to what's her face. 0.66

01:48:39.860 I would too.

01:48:40.220 Ocasio-Cortez.

01:48:41.180 Yeah.

01:48:41.520 I'd love to talk to her.

01:48:43.080 I doubt she would, but it would be great.

01:48:45.200 It, the only reason why it wouldn't is because the, the handlers would say, are you out of

01:48:51.020 your mind?

01:48:51.440 You're not going on Glenn Beck.

01:48:52.840 Yeah.

01:48:53.000 But any, really anybody, I don't think, unless you're a diehard, you know, supporter, I

01:48:59.480 don't know if they'll ever allow out, but I would love to have a conversation.

01:49:04.120 Just say, just tell me about the math.

01:49:06.700 I just want to know about the math.

01:49:08.160 How is that going to work?

01:49:09.820 Right.

01:49:10.360 How are you going to provide free education, free healthcare, all of these other free programs?

01:49:17.360 Oh, a guaranteed job for everybody and guaranteed housing.

01:49:22.960 How do you, how do you do that?

01:49:25.140 Right.

01:49:25.620 Outside the Soviet Union.

01:49:27.040 And I don't want to, and I really don't want to, you know, play gotcha.

01:49:31.440 I really want to know.

01:49:33.460 Yeah.

01:49:33.680 I'd like to.

01:49:34.680 Who, who on that side has really thought this through?

01:49:38.600 The only thing you hear her say is in a free society, that's the wealthiest on the planet.

01:49:44.340 There is no reason for people to be poor.

01:49:47.360 Well, okay.

01:49:48.920 How do you fix it?

01:49:51.040 How do you fix it?

01:49:53.040 And how do you go against the, the, you know, the old adage and the, and from Jesus, the

01:49:59.480 poor will always be among you.

01:50:01.660 Right.

01:50:02.200 How, how, how do you do that?

01:50:03.840 When honestly, we know that there are some people that want to be poor.

01:50:08.940 They want to live on the street. 0.78

01:50:10.980 Yeah.

01:50:11.220 I mean, not, not, I'm sure not any close to a majority by any stretch, but they want to

01:50:16.400 do that.

01:50:16.860 They also, there, we know there are many people that don't want to do any work to improve

01:50:22.620 themselves.

01:50:23.580 Yep.

01:50:24.360 We should make sure that they're not poor as well.

01:50:27.420 And don't they have a right to that choice?

01:50:33.320 Anyway, I'd love to have that conversation.

01:50:35.480 We'll see as we, uh, forge ahead.

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