00:04:01.000Maybe it's just that little moment before bed that you walk through the house turning off the lights and everything just feels calm and secure.
00:12:05.860and your phone studies you all the time what makes you angry what makes you laugh what scares
00:12:13.940you what keeps you watching what kind of voice do you trust what headlines make your pulse jump
00:12:19.740it tracks all of it now combine that with ai suddenly persuasion i don't need steven spielberg
00:12:28.700i have something much more powerful than steven spielberg and john williams
00:12:32.660the old system of broadcasting one message like i'm doing right now to millions of people
00:12:39.620this is over the new system builds millions of custom messages for individual people
00:12:48.700that's a gigantic shift probably the biggest shift in in culture propaganda in thinking and
00:12:59.140And perhaps you may begin to understand or see this in a new light when you hear me say, we are at a time where we are facing the death of free will.
00:13:09.640I have said that over and over again for a few years, maybe 10 years.
00:13:14.240I said we are going to approach a time where we will see the death of free will.
00:13:18.720We're in it right now, the death of free will.
00:27:09.160I had this picked a while back as something to do like on a Friday.
00:27:13.060But now I feel like all of these, I 100% now believe this is a psyop.
00:27:17.860And I feel like the people that were looking at these topics before were always, you know, pointing fingers at the CIA saying they were the bad guys.
00:27:25.420You know, they're the ones that are hiding all this information from us.
00:27:29.300But now we get disclosures like what you were just talking about, that the CIA was using 23andMe and Ancestry.com, allegedly, to find all the humans that had extraterrestrial DNA.
00:27:42.580At some point, you've got to take a step back, I believe.
00:27:48.100I think you do have to back away from the cliff just a little bit and go, wait a minute, wait a minute, what?
00:50:30.600Yes. Glenn, as far, I've known you quite well for many years at this point, and I can confirm to the listeners that you are straight as far as I know.
00:50:40.740No, no, no. I mean, I just, I feel better because I didn't think there was anything to this.
00:50:46.120I didn't see it that way. And then Ricky comes in, you know, with I thought I thought this was I thought this was just a crazy ruse to get me to affirm your straightness.
01:07:25.280Let me be clear. Sharia law has no place in Maine's courtrooms, our schools, nor our government. Not now, not ever. We've seen what happens when Sharia takes hold. Women are banned from leaving their homes without male permission. Girls are pulled from schools, denied education. Victims of assault are punished rather than protected. These are not ancient relics. This is happening right now in countries all around the world here at home.0.94
01:07:45.260We've seen the attempts to lay groundwork in Texas.
01:07:47.720Planners push a vision for Epic City, a self-governing Islamic enclave designed to operate outside America law.0.83
01:07:55.120Every person in this state of Maine, regardless of their faith, deserves to live under the same set of laws.0.58
01:07:59.380One standard, the Constitution, equal protection for every man and woman.
01:08:03.000As governor of Maine, I will always put our constitutional values first.
01:08:06.360Religious freedom means the right to worship as you choose.
01:08:09.100It does not mean replacing American law with a foreign legal system.
01:08:13.140Maine families deserve a governor who will stand up and say what others are afraid to say.
01:08:53.040I listened to you all the time on the radio and I, I realized, nope, I'm going to have
01:08:56.640to get in a suit and tie because I'm really up here on television with him.
01:09:01.480Well, it's good to, it's good to have you.
01:09:03.300So, um, how are, how are things in Maine?
01:09:06.340Cause I don't know what the hell happened to Maine.
01:09:08.440at one point maine was well let me ask you this was it stephen king living there is that what
01:09:13.440happened it just got yeah i think i think we're seeing remnants of the shining everywhere now
01:09:18.460yeah i i will tell you glenn we i grew up in this state and we were norman rockwell's america we were
01:09:25.320world war ii values you know that that's what we were i grew up working from the age of 12
01:09:29.940everything about this state was more or less wholesome and now we've got the highest property
01:09:35.560taxes in the country with one of the lowest per capita incomes. We've got high income taxes. We've
01:09:40.640got drug traffickers everywhere, 8,000 overdoses. We've got the highest energy costs, the highest
01:09:46.220jump last year, 36 percent, because they pushed all this solar and wind crap everywhere. Our
01:09:51.960schools, and this is a shocker, our schools were actually at the top of the nation in the mid-90s
01:09:57.640and at the end of the McKernan administration, and they are now number 50, according to U.S.
01:10:02.300News and World Report, and they're shot through with woe. And then the last point that I just
01:10:07.020have to leave you with, because it'll resonate with you, and particularly since what you just
01:10:10.660read, we are like a mini Minnesota for fraud. We have, it's not just Somali fraud, and it is
01:10:16.620Somali fraud, but it's everywhere in this state. We have a state that in general, the average1.00
01:10:22.180Mainer cannot trust. And that really, three years ago, is part of what got me off the couch and
01:10:27.240said, you know, Bobby, you can sit around here and carp and listen to Glenn Beck about what all
01:10:31.340good people should go out and do, or you can go out and do it. And I really do believe good people
01:10:36.700have to act. What did Edmund Burke say? All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to
01:10:42.060do nothing. And I'm just not going to be that person. So what's your background? Why are you
01:10:47.840qualified for this? Yeah, so it's an interesting background. I do truly believe, even as you and I
01:10:53.480sit here today and people listen and watch, I believe that God puts us where we are meant to
01:10:58.780be, all of us, that just at this very moment, this is where we are meant to be. And my life
01:11:05.200experience was growing up working for World War II vets through 17, 18. My father never went to
01:11:12.060college. He was enlisted Navy. I ended up, my mom was a school teacher who for a lot of the time
01:11:17.040raised the four of us. And she just said, you got to go out and get an education, Bobby. We had no
01:11:21.640money, zip. We had no electric heat. We chopped wood to be able to heat the house. But, you know,
01:11:28.560on a wish and a prayer. I ended up at Dartmouth, Oxford University, studying economics, Columbia
01:11:34.160Law School, the Reagan White House clerked for a U.S. Court of Appeals clerk, Reagan appointee
01:11:40.920on the Ninth Circuit. So that was like a little patch of heaven in the middle of hell. And then
01:11:45.140I became assistant secretary of state and I had 10 years Navy intelligence and I've run a company
01:11:52.180for 25 years helping the Pentagon. So and law enforcement was a huge part of what I've done
01:11:57.160for the last 30 years. So I look back here, I come to Maine and I say, you know, it really was
01:12:01.900other people who said to me, Bobby, look at this. You managed billions of dollars. You know, you
01:12:07.180shut down bureaucrats at the State Department. I was responsible for training all the Iraqi police
01:12:12.100and Afghan police. I set that up as Dave Petraeus did the military side. And you've managed big
01:12:18.660projects. You helped bring down the Cali cartel. You're all about counter-narcotics. You did all
01:12:23.000the CD training for the National Guard for decades. You're the guy that can help fix the
01:12:28.040drug problem, both on the addiction side, frankly, and on the law enforcement side.
01:12:32.680You're all about fraud. For five years, I was Gingrich's, one of his top
01:12:36.040federal investigators. I did the Waco hearings, all those hearings. And, you know, Gingrich
01:12:42.060supported me. Mises supported me. People say, you just got to get out there and go do it, Bobby.
01:12:47.560And so I feel like it's like a puzzle piece, Glenn. The problems of the state of Maine match
01:12:52.660with the the life experience that god has given me even though if you asked me five years ago i
01:12:58.760would have never thought about it and i in terms of governorship i was just waiting for ronald
01:13:03.020reagan to show up and i would have supported him and made everything good um you have we get calls
01:13:09.840from listeners in maine all the time that say uh china is in our state and they are running these0.62
01:13:16.380these drug farms and nobody's doing anything about it well you're absolutely right go ahead0.77
01:13:22.640Yeah, no, to answer, preempt your question, but sorry. Yes, of course. We have three major groups of drug traffickers up here, the Chinese triads that run between 300 and 400 of these grow houses, illegal marijuana that they put fentanyl on and distribute, which, of course, damages northwest, east and south.
01:13:44.720that damages people. And, you know, I can't tell you the number of overdoses tied to them,0.90
01:13:50.020but I will tell you that fentanyl on their marijuana is a major issue. And I will also
01:13:54.780tell you that we have between 8,000 and 10,000 overdoses a year in this state,
01:13:59.820hundreds and hundreds of fatal overdoses. You know, a comparable state like South Dakota has 65.
01:14:06.040So we can do better. The second thing I'll tell you is that we have the Sinaloa cartel up here.
01:14:11.740It's a major problem. They have gutted the state police. People don't even want a lateral into this
01:14:16.120state to do law enforcement. We will reverse all of that. And we have the Trinitarians.
01:14:20.280What do you mean? How have they gutted it?1.00
01:14:22.180Oh, my God. I've been all over this state. Local law enforcement is literally being defunded.
01:14:27.580They've defunded big chunks of the state police. They've taken their authorities away. When they
01:14:31.560try to arrest people on 95, they're accused of racial profiling. So, of course, they default to
01:14:36.500not arresting people. We know where these drugs are coming from, the fentanyl, the meth, the
01:14:41.000heroin, the crack cocaine in larger quantities than we have ever, ever seen here and in larger
01:14:46.120purities. We know where it's coming from, Glenn. It's coming from very specific points in Boston,
01:14:51.580New York, and Connecticut. And we know how it's getting here. It's getting here up through 95,
01:14:56.180Lawrence and Lowell. We can almost, I mean, I talk to DEA every week. We can almost pick out
01:15:01.440the cars, but we don't do it because this governor, Governor Mills, has deauthorized and defunded huge
01:15:07.460chunks of the state police. I was up at the Holton, uh, Northern border, uh, state police
01:15:12.160outpost not long ago, and they were down 41% in Manning. Look, they have, they have, they have
01:15:17.920literally favored the illegal aliens. They they've turned this into a sanctuary state. And a lot of
01:15:23.400the illegals are show up in those Chinese grow houses. I mean, we have almost 8,000 illegals in
01:15:28.740this state. I will wire brush them out of this state starting day one. Tell me about the person1.00
01:15:36.160running that you're going to be running against uh i mean you're it's looking really good for the
01:15:40.980primary obviously um but if if you become the candidate who who is the the democrat what are
01:15:48.280they running as you know it's interesting and i'm gonna i'm gonna give you a little preemptive here
01:15:54.780again just a simple statement democrats and independents the traditional democrats and
01:16:01.220traditional independents or unaffiliated voters are just as sick and tired of all these high taxes,
01:16:07.800overreach, overregulation, drugs everywhere, schools that can't be trusted as Republicans.
01:16:12.780And so one of the things that's happening here is that traditional Democrats and independents
01:16:18.160are calling me, joining me, literally almost in a revival type way at some of our meetings,
01:16:23.420turning into Republicans on the spot, pledging to register as Republicans, because they can't
01:16:29.600fathom that the candidates on the other side, and you mentioned Graham Plattner earlier in the
01:16:34.840Senate race, but that the candidates, Glenn, on the other side are so utterly morally bankrupt
01:16:40.060and dedicated essentially to putting bad money after bad. So the candidates are, you know,
01:16:46.100we have this guy named Nirav Shah, who's like the Fauci of Maine, who shut down 55% of our
01:16:52.680businesses, shut down our schools, shut down our churches. He's a complete-
01:17:27.380you got Troy Jackson in a funny little twist. And my God, you know, Maine is a small state,
01:17:32.000but we're a damn interesting state. We had a funny little mix because now we're very interesting. I
01:17:38.420mean, and when I get off this show, you know, I'll be running around in my plaid shirt because it's
01:17:42.580how we grew up. We're very simple minded. I guess we are a very simple, common sense based Norman
01:17:48.080Rockwell value based state. And that's why all this is looking so goofy to a lot of Mainers that,
01:17:53.860the Democrats have thrown up these candidates. But another one is this guy, Troy Jackson,
01:17:57.860who was head of the Senate, who decided that he would elevate himself by debating me,
01:18:04.480even in the primaries. So I said, let's go for it. Bring it, brother. And so we did it and
01:18:09.460just crushed him. And I think that's what's going to happen here in the general. We have so much to
01:18:16.120gain. We're only a couple of seats away, Glenn, from controlling the House, the Senate, the
01:18:21.540governorship, and I will strip the Supreme Court of all seven of its justices. They get seven-year
01:18:27.320terms. They all come due in that four-year term. We will put constitutional conservatives on our
01:18:31.920Supreme Court. Oh, my gosh. That's almost worth moving to Maine to be able to vote up there for.
01:18:37.920I mean, holy cow, that's huge. It is. Can I just ask you, and you don't have to comment on this,
01:18:45.640But as somebody who is not there, you don't know what to believe.
01:18:51.220You're just seeing, you know, America's watching what's happening in Maine from a distance and you're not involved in the everyday back and forth.
01:18:59.880But planner, I mean, that, I mean, it's, it's, I mean, there's no way no one would get the break of, oh, gee, I didn't know that was a Nazi symbol.
01:19:11.940coupled with all of some of the crazy things that this guy has said is that really who the main
01:19:19.900democrat is so you know it's a great question not one that is people ask it every day of ourselves
01:19:27.860i mean i think i think democrats are asking of themselves i've asked the other democrats in the
01:19:32.840gubernatorial to uh disavow him and they've chosen not to so far i i assume they will not disavow him
01:19:39.460you know they're scraping the bottom of the barrel is what it boils down to here0.73
01:19:44.440Mills was completely shooed out because she's a failure and all these other democrats running for
01:19:50.180governor are carbon copies of her failure but Graham Plattner is essentially a farce who is
01:19:56.060very well funded he is a you know the national democrat party I'm sure are just oohing and
01:20:01.680eyeing over him. He presents well. He is a Nazi, communist, let's see, woman-hating, minority-hating,
01:20:10.120veteran-hating guy who somehow has grabbed national attention. I think he's a complete0.99
01:20:17.320farce. And at the end of the day, I think he's like a bubble that pops toward the end of the
01:20:21.520cycle, the same way that others around the country who have thrown up just crazy people pop.
01:20:27.060But, you know, the problem is right now the Democrat Party in Maine, Glenn, has no one to reach to. They have no bench. There is no high integrity, I don't know what you'd want to call it, an Ed Muskie-style Democrat up here.
01:20:42.420And frankly, we have lost the con. We had Margaret Chase Smith. We had people who were real, I think, believers in Maine first. You know, they didn't tolerate a lack of integrity. They didn't tolerate this kind of, I could use other words for it, but they're probably not on air good words to use.
01:21:01.600They just, this guy is a complete farce, but it's because literally the Democrat party has no one to put up that has high integrity, that has delivered anything.
01:21:13.060And all those things I talked to you about, the high property taxes, highest in the country, high income taxes, they just raised the income tax again.
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01:48:08.240Hey, there's really good news. Crime is down in Los Angeles. It's safe to go back again.
01:48:15.260Is it? Is it really? Uh, I have to go spend a week this summer in Los Angeles and I would
01:48:22.280rather, I really think, I mean, not on the, on the wrong side of the gates, but I think I'd
01:48:27.440rather vacation at the gates of hell than spend a week in Los Angeles. Um, but you know, the LA
01:48:36.120times they're saying no no no no no crime is it's safe again to be in la you know i'd like to check
01:48:42.560on that um uh rafael mangual is with us he is a uh fellow at the manhattan institute he's been
01:48:50.400crunching the numbers how how safe is it rafael certainly not as safe as the la times wanted to
01:48:57.800make it out to be uh with that ridiculous headline look i think you're you're going to see a lot of
01:49:03.340this over the next year or so, as some of the cities take advantage of the broader declines
01:49:08.760in homicides and shootings specifically. And they're going to try to paint this as a massive
01:49:14.700improvement in safety overall. And the reality is, is that crime and public safety are matters
01:49:21.260of much more than simply one or two crime measures. And sure, LA has absolutely improved
01:49:27.500things on the homicide front, on the shooting front, and they deserve credit for that.
01:49:31.740Can we stop here? Wait, wait, before you go on, let me stop there. How? How did they stop that? Because that is great. It's great. Yes. How did that stop?
01:49:40.500It is great. I think it's a combination of factors, right? I think you had a massive increase in serious violence in 2020 and 2021 that finally started to come under control in 2022. And I think that probably had what's called an incapacitative effect, meaning that a lot of that extrajudicial killing ended up taking off the board a lot of individuals who would have continued to offend.
01:50:05.400If you look at it, it's kind of it's kind of a dark thought.
01:50:11.020But if you look at the sort of typical profile of your median homicide suspect and you compare it to your median homicide victim, they don't really look all that different.
01:50:19.240They tend to have very similar criminal histories, very similar likelihoods of being in gangs.
01:50:23.920So when you have this massive uptick in the number of offenders being killed by other offenders, you know, it results in a reduction in the overall pool of potential offenders.
01:50:33.480Then you have everything that happened after COVID. You have massive changes in routine activities. Fewer people are going into the office. More people are working from home. More people are shopping from home. Americans on average are spending about 65 minutes more a day at home. What does this mean? It means that they're spending less time in places where they might be criminally victimized.
01:50:53.720So when you combine some of those factors with the fact that L.A. got a new D.A. in 2024, George Gascon lost his reelection bid to Nate Hogman, who ran on a tough on crime platform.
01:51:05.320You had Prop 36 in 2024, which rolled back some of Prop 47 in the state of California, which gave police more ammunition to use against the criminal class.
01:51:15.440You have more people getting arrested, more people going to jail.
01:51:18.000I think that enforcement has something to do with why we're seeing reductions in at least those crime categories that we know police are concentrating on most heavily because they have limited resources.
01:51:29.640But again, this is only a small part of the story.
01:51:33.640The rest of the public safety picture, particularly in L.A., looks god-awful.
01:51:38.700You have massive problems of public order, people using drugs and selling drugs right out in the open, homeless encampments, petty theft.
01:51:47.160this sort of thing, all of which contributes to legitimately the average American's perception
01:51:52.960of public safety. And this is one of the things that I think the American left has forgotten.
01:51:57.540Okay. So let me talk about the perception. The LA Times can say, you know, murder rate is down
01:52:03.800and it could be down and that's great. Congratulations on that. But perception is
01:52:11.080reality. What is the average person's perception slash reality on how safe it is to walk the
01:52:21.220streets in California? I think they have, I think people rightly perceive Los Angeles to be in a
01:52:29.820state of disorder. When you walk the streets of a major American city and you see people shooting
01:52:35.800heroin into the veins between their toes in broad daylight, that sends a signal that we process as
01:52:42.620follows. We see people engaging in antisocial behavior out in the open. We understand their
01:52:48.960actions to be or to reflect the lack of control in that public space, right? If this individual
01:52:54.620feels comfortable doing something that is clearly both against the law and just socially unacceptable,
01:53:00.200they are confident that nobody's going to intervene. When somebody walks into a CVS
01:53:04.440casually with a garbage bag and fills it with the things that aren't behind plexiglass,
01:53:09.560right, that sends a signal that nobody is in charge in that public space.
01:53:13.720And this was sort of the brilliant insight of the broken windows theory, because when
01:53:16.940people are confronted with visible signs of disorder in public, they process that in a
01:53:34.440I lived through the Rudy Giuliani years in New York where I remember praying, please dear God, don't turn red at this stoplight.
01:53:46.760Please don't turn red at this stoplight because there would be people that come out, they were window washers, and they would come out and they would just spray crap on your window, take a newspaper, make one swipe, and then pound on your window, pay up.
01:54:00.420and i mean it was blackmail at every stop and rudy giuliani one with the broken windows theory was
01:54:08.400one of the first things he did i'm stopping that i'm cleaning that up that immediately made this
01:54:13.480it felt safer to be in new york and that just builds on itself so is this from the la from the
01:54:21.220la times is this more about you know karen bass and her cronies in the media trying to take away
01:54:26.760talking points from spencer pratt uh who's running a very effective campaign uh is that what this is
01:54:34.320really about i think that's exactly right i think they understand that this is a major vulnerability
01:54:38.860for them politically when you have well-to-do citizens finally starting to listen to somebody
01:54:43.680who's simply telling the truth he's pointing a camera outward and saying look at the filth
01:54:48.260look at the people injecting heroin into their veins on the street look at the the discarded
01:54:53.480needles, look at the human feces, you know, on the sidewalks. These are sort of bread and butter
01:54:59.680issues that the government exists to solve. And LA has been systematically failing to do anything
01:55:05.040about those issues at scale. And I think what they're really understanding now is that this
01:55:10.080is something that actually people care about, right? The sort of peak woke era of 2020 is kind
01:55:15.160of over you know even you know far lefties want a relatively decent quality of life and they're not
01:55:23.220getting that in a city in which they're paying through the nose when it comes to you know their
01:55:27.660their tax burden so i i think what what this reflects is an understanding that they have
01:55:32.620failed to deliver on their most basic duty uh as leaders of a major american city and spencer pratt
01:55:39.620is doing an incredible job of just sort of leveraging that reality again pointing the
01:55:44.340camera outward and saying do you want more of this does he have a chance i mean a real chance
01:55:51.600you know it's hard to say my political prognostication skills are not what i get
01:55:56.060paid for but um i think he does i think he does um you know i think the fact that he has caught
01:56:03.360on to this degree and not just outside la i mean really people in la i have tons of friends who
01:56:09.440live in LA and in the surrounding counties who are just all in on this guy, who are not committed,
01:56:15.720you know, conservatives. These are just sort of regular people with tech jobs who just are fed
01:56:21.900up. They're fed up and he is speaking their language. And so, you know, I think just as
01:56:27.800people did not give enough credit to Donald Trump, you know, in the lead up to 2016, I think people
01:56:35.800will underestimate spencer pratt at their peril boy i i hope you're right you know and it i don't
01:56:41.560care about party i care about common sense i mean america has been so we just unpegged from any kind
01:56:50.360of common sense and we've just been following lunatics and and everybody stood around looking
01:56:56.580at it going yeah i know that's crazy isn't it oh well i'm not going to say anything for such a long
01:57:00.600time this this this is not necessarily about um uh the republicans versus democrats this could
01:57:10.980signal the return to sanity in america i think that's exactly right and one of the things that
01:57:17.040i think people have forgotten in our sort of era of of you know stark political polarization
01:57:21.740is that this issue the public safety and the public order issue was not a polarized issue
01:57:27.96030, 40, 50 years ago. I mean, I remember in the early 1990s and late 1980s, where Democrats and
01:57:34.400Republicans were essentially trying to one-up each other on how tough they would be on crime,
01:57:39.160on how tough they would be on disorder. I mean, people forget that Bill Clinton signed the 1994
01:57:44.480crime bill into law. The Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986 passed the Senate by a vote of 97 to 3.
01:57:51.800You had people like Charles Rangel debating William F. Buckley on firing line, where Charles
01:57:56.360Rangel was taking the position that we were not being harsh enough when it came to the prosecution
01:58:00.820of the drug war. And so, you know, I think that Americans are just ready for a return back to the
01:58:06.640day in which this particular issue is just taken out of the sort of the political sandbox. I think
01:58:14.360people are tired of fighting over what is basic common sense. I think Americans see aberrant
01:58:20.020behavior in the street and they want it dealt with. They want order restored. And that's not
01:58:24.060a, you know, solely Republican or solely Democrat, uh, uh, sort of ideal. That's just what every
01:58:30.080American, whatever human being wants for their own lives. I feel, thank you so much. I really
01:58:36.180appreciate the perspective. Appreciate it. Thank you. We'll talk to you. Thank you for having me
01:58:39.740on. Uh, you bet, uh, Raphael Mangual, uh, he is from the Manhattan Institute, um, Manhattan dot
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