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00:05:47.380 And this hour, I want to talk to Amy Nelson.

00:05:50.340 She is the founder, the Riveter.

00:05:53.260 The FBI seized her family assets without any charges.

00:05:57.640 I got this letter last night.

00:05:59.240 Glenn, I heard you mention my family this morning on your show.

00:06:01.640 I wanted to write and say thank you for noticing our story, which is almost unbelievable.

00:06:06.820 Two years ago, Amazon accused my husband of a crime called honest services fraud.

00:06:12.140 Although we now know that Amazon lawyers met with the DOJ 87 times in effect to persuade the government to charge my husband with a crime,

00:06:23.560 but no charges were ever filed.

00:06:26.460 Nonetheless, the government seized our money via civil forfeiture in May 2020.

00:06:33.940 We're just getting the money back last week.

00:06:36.980 I'm a trained litigator turned an entrepreneur, and this experience has been stunning at every turn.

00:06:45.360 We welcome to the program, Amy Nelson.

00:06:48.320 Hello, Amy.

00:06:49.780 Hi, Glenn.

00:06:50.360 Thanks so much for having me.

00:06:51.500 You bet.

00:06:51.920 I'm sorry we didn't see your story earlier.

00:06:54.180 We just saw it this week, and it is horrifying.

00:06:56.960 Horrifying.

00:06:58.640 It is.

00:06:59.440 It's, you know, I'll be honest.

00:07:00.820 I didn't really even know that civil forfeiture existed before this happened to my family.

00:07:05.760 Yeah.

00:07:06.340 It is one of those things that everybody thinks it can't happen to them until it does,

00:07:11.200 and it is so unconstitutional and terrifying.

00:07:15.400 Tell me what happened.

00:07:17.040 It really is.

00:07:18.100 So my husband worked at Amazon Web Services for seven years.

00:07:22.260 Amazon Web Services is a division of Amazon that really builds the Internet.

00:07:26.400 So the Internet lives in these big warehouses with server racks, and people buy what are

00:07:33.380 called instances on those server racks, and that's Amazon Web Services, and it generates

00:07:37.200 billions of dollars for Amazon every year.

00:07:40.100 And in fact, some of their biggest clients, or maybe their biggest client, is the government.

00:07:44.820 It's our intelligence community.

00:07:46.780 AWS serves the National Security Agency, the CIA, the FBI, to the tune of billions of dollars

00:07:52.760 every year in revenue for Amazon.

00:07:54.360 And my husband's job was supply.

00:07:57.960 He helped Amazon Web Services find real estate to build these data centers.

00:08:03.760 And he left AWS in 2019, and on April 2nd of 2020, we got a knock on our door around 6.45

00:08:13.100 a.m.

00:08:14.300 We lived in Seattle at the time, and it was the FBI.

00:08:17.920 And that was the first time that we learned that a couple months prior, Amazon had accused

00:08:24.240 my husband of a crime called private sector honest services fraud, which is depriving your

00:08:30.260 private sector employer of your honest services.

00:08:33.920 And from there...

00:08:34.520 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:08:35.520 I want to make sure.

00:08:36.640 That's usually...

00:08:37.520 I mean, it's hard to prove in the private sector.

00:08:42.260 In the public sector, it's usually bribery, or you're leaving out information.

00:08:48.040 You're profiting on a relationship without telling the other side.

00:08:51.920 Right?

00:08:52.460 Right.

00:08:52.900 It's usually...

00:08:53.620 I mean, it's usually used in the public sector.

00:08:55.700 Right.

00:08:55.840 Where you have a politician who, they say, took a bribe to pass a bill.

00:08:59.640 Correct.

00:09:01.440 I believe it's pretty rarely used in the private sector.

00:09:04.660 It is.

00:09:05.040 And in fact, it's been pared down very much.

00:09:09.260 They charged Skilling, the CEO of Enron, with private sector honest services fraud, and that

00:09:13.840 was actually overturned at the Supreme Court.

00:09:17.120 And it's hard.

00:09:18.060 I think the bounds of private sector honest services fraud, even the statute, they're very

00:09:21.280 still kind of unknown and being shaped.

00:09:23.880 They're treated differently all over the country.

00:09:25.840 But Amazon had never approached my husband about their allegations.

00:09:32.320 They never asked him about anything.

00:09:34.020 They just went to the Department of Justice.

00:09:36.120 So what was it they were saying he was doing?

00:09:39.460 So, you know, we've actually never seen the allegations.

00:09:43.200 Everything remains under seal.

00:09:45.560 So we don't know exactly what Amazon said to the government, but what we understand...

00:09:51.140 Yeah, it's...

00:09:51.780 I mean, just like stepping back, right?

00:09:53.640 For years, we had all of our money taken, and we have no idea what Amazon said happened.

00:09:58.200 Well, I mean, don't you have a right to face your accuser?

00:10:01.100 Don't you?

00:10:01.520 I mean, you can't know why the government took your money?

00:10:05.600 Well, the way the process works...

00:10:07.520 So, you know, my husband has never been charged with a crime.

00:10:10.140 So he doesn't have a right to face his accuser because he's never been charged by the Department

00:10:14.540 of Justice with a crime.

00:10:15.980 Now, when they took the money via civil forfeiture, the way it is meant to work is if they take

00:10:21.060 your money via civil forfeiture and then they do not indict you with a crime, the government

00:10:25.360 has to file a civil lawsuit against your bank account.

00:10:28.700 And the bank account is a defendant.

00:10:30.220 Now, the government did that here, but then immediately after they filed that civil lawsuit,

00:10:36.040 they asked the court to stay, which means to pause the civil lawsuit, because they said,

00:10:42.100 well, we can't possibly litigate this because we have a secret criminal investigation.

00:10:46.640 And so we've just been in...

00:10:48.140 We were in a cycle for years where we could see the allegations.

00:10:51.780 We couldn't even cite the allegations because we didn't know what they were.

00:10:55.540 This is so evil.

00:10:58.640 So evil.

00:10:59.980 This is putting people...

00:11:02.280 This is reversing American justice.

00:11:04.860 You are guilty until proven innocent.

00:11:08.080 It is sick.

00:11:10.480 I mean, it really is.

00:11:12.220 And I will say, you know, I have learned through this experience, which has impacted my husband's

00:11:15.860 career in an immeasurable way.

00:11:17.400 I bet.

00:11:17.680 It's impacted my career.

00:11:19.400 I'm just his wife, but it's impacted my career in an immeasurable way as well.

00:11:23.760 Now, in America, I very much feel that you are guilty when accused unless and until you

00:11:30.480 can prove yourself innocent, and you have to pay to do that.

00:11:34.560 And I think that's something we really need to consider about our process.

00:11:37.320 And I think the other thing, Glenn, that's completely horrifying about this, this is an

00:11:41.560 allegation made by a private company about private contracts related to private employment

00:11:47.280 terms.

00:11:48.760 And can anybody walk into the DOJ and do that?

00:11:51.860 If I'm Amy that owns a hardware store, can I walk into the DOJ and say, I believe my

00:11:57.000 employee did X, Y, or Z, and the DOJ will jump?

00:12:00.480 They will just take my word and move?

00:12:02.580 I don't think so.

00:12:04.020 I don't think so.

00:12:05.120 I don't know, but I don't think so.

00:12:07.280 You know, what I know to be true is that Amazon has an incredibly close relationship to

00:12:11.920 the Department of Justice and to our intelligence community.

00:12:14.340 And it's very frightening.

00:12:17.100 How much does this cost you?

00:12:20.680 We have spent probably a million dollars.

00:12:24.200 And where did you get that million dollars?

00:12:26.780 They, I mean, they took, how much did they take from you?

00:12:30.480 So they took around 875,000.

00:12:35.240 Now, they took most of that from our lawyer's client trust account.

00:12:40.560 We had sent money to our attorneys to pay for legal fees.

00:12:44.380 And the government went into our lawyer's bank account and took it.

00:12:48.460 How is that possible?

00:12:50.540 I mean, I don't know.

00:12:51.860 I honestly, I don't know.

00:12:53.080 But our lawyers had already billed a significant, had billed us, had billed against those funds.

00:12:58.760 And so they repaid our lawyers what they had already billed.

00:13:02.280 So that was how we, you know, got it.

00:13:03.780 That's how we paid for this at the beginning.

00:13:06.540 And then we, you know, my husband and I are in our 40s.

00:13:10.540 We're professionals.

00:13:11.360 We've worked our entire lives.

00:13:14.040 And so my husband was able to keep working until the allegations became very public.

00:13:20.060 So, you know, we were able to keep earning money.

00:13:22.440 I was still earning money.

00:13:24.020 And then we had to sell everything.

00:13:25.700 We sold our house, which we had worked very hard for the down payment for and where we had planned to raise our four little girls.

00:13:32.540 We sold our car.

00:13:33.980 We liquidated a retirement fund.

00:13:35.760 And we borrowed some money from our friends and family.

00:13:39.120 Is there anybody that is talking to you about suing Amazon?

00:13:44.560 You know, I think there are a lot of people out there who think we have a lot of causes of action against Amazon.

00:13:50.080 I can actually tell you, Glenn, that we did sue Amazon, or my husband, rather, sued Amazon in Washington State Court.

00:13:56.640 And he won.

00:13:58.060 And my husband sued Amazon.

00:14:01.020 So one thing that Amazon did that I haven't mentioned is after Amazon had been lobbying for criminal charges for many months and no indictment or charges had ensued,

00:14:09.740 but Amazon knew the government had seized our money, then Amazon sued my husband in federal court in Virginia.

00:14:17.420 So after they couldn't get the DOJ to bring charges, but after they knew that we had no money, they sued him, which is very cruel.

00:14:24.160 And I think it's a complete manipulation of the criminal system.

00:14:28.500 So what happened to that case?

00:14:31.860 So that case, so Amazon sued my husband, and then they didn't move their case forward for years.

00:14:36.440 They let it sit there until another defendant in the lawsuit forced Amazon into discovery.

00:14:42.660 So we are now in discovery, which is, you know, Glenn, as we're sharing facts about the allegations.

00:14:47.080 And our depositions of the Amazon executives, my husband's depositions, my husband's depositions of the Amazon executives who accused him of these crimes will begin next week, actually.

00:14:58.960 And, you know, these real estate transactions at issue were approved by very senior level, the highest level at Amazon.

00:15:06.720 And so there'll be some interesting depositions, I think, where my husband can finally face his accusers and understand what happened.

00:15:13.860 But circling back to this lawsuit in Virginia, Amazon made my husband sign an employment contract that said that they would litigate any disputes in Washington State, where my husband lived, where my husband worked, where Amazon is headquartered.

00:15:27.640 But Amazon threw it out the window and sued him in Virginia because that was where they were seeking criminal charges.

00:15:33.900 But wait, but how is that possible?

00:15:36.780 I mean, I have contracts.

00:15:38.080 If anything, if anybody litigates on any of my contracts, it is here in Texas.

00:15:44.200 If I litigate, it's here in Texas.

00:15:47.060 That's I mean, that's common.

00:15:49.880 Frankly, I think that Amazon thinks they're so big and they have so much money that no one can go up against them.

00:15:55.060 I truly believe Amazon thought, you know, Glenn, 97 percent of people accused of a federal crime plead guilty because it's terrifying,

00:16:03.220 because they can't afford to defend themselves, because perhaps the government will use civil forfeiture against them.

00:16:09.360 Perhaps they will, you know, lobby any other number of threats.

00:16:13.500 And so I believe I believe when Amazon accused my husband of a crime, they just believed that would be that and that they would never have to prove any facts.

00:16:21.020 Because if you plead guilty, you don't have to the accusers don't have to prove anything.

00:16:27.240 Right. There's no trial.

00:16:28.740 They don't have to actually explain what happened.

00:16:31.180 So I believe that was Amazon's bet when they started this.

00:16:33.920 And it's a good bet. Right.

00:16:34.960 It's a good bet, not because of the truth, but because 97 percent of people plead guilty when accused.

00:16:40.540 And Amazon is represented by a former federal prosecutor who worked in the district in Virginia where they're seeking charges.

00:16:46.500 And I can imagine that that former federal prosecutor perhaps knows current prosecutors in Virginia and could call them up and ask for some help.

00:16:55.820 But so we sued we my husband sued Amazon in Washington state for breaching the employment contract.

00:17:01.760 And he won. The judge in Washington state said, you know, I learned the first year of law school that if you want to breach a contract, you can.

00:17:09.780 But that doesn't mean you're not going to pay for it. Right.

00:17:12.980 So so we won that, which is, you know, great.

00:17:16.520 But I think, you know, there there are other causes of action that I think my husband will have against Amazon.

00:17:22.080 I hope so. Amy, what can people do to help?

00:17:27.340 Well, we would love your help. You know, we're waging this battle still against Amazon in civil court.

00:17:32.360 It's costing an enormous amount of money because Amazon is fighting discovery for the lawsuit that they brought.

00:17:38.060 And so we have we're raising money at a Web site called Nelson's fight Amazon dot com.

00:17:44.240 And we would love your help. And we'd also just love help in civil forfeiture reform.

00:17:48.460 The government should not be able to take money and call it a crime without affording someone the ability to fight back.

00:17:55.060 It's Nelson's fight Amazon dot com.

00:17:58.900 Correct.

00:17:59.280 Correct. OK, good for you, Amy.

00:18:03.020 Thank you. God bless.

00:18:05.000 Please keep us up to up to date on this story.

00:18:07.440 I'd really like to follow it.

00:18:08.560 So anything you can share, let us know next week, will you?

00:18:13.040 I will. Thank you very much.

00:18:14.340 Thank you. Nelson's fight Amazon dot com.

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00:24:01.980 Back-to-back Studios America and Glenn TV on Blaze TV.

00:24:07.360 Go to blazetv.com slash Glenn.

00:24:09.080 The promo code is Glenn.

00:24:23.420 Hello, America.

00:24:24.620 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:24:26.220 As you see how our government has changed and changed dramatically and the way things

00:24:35.980 are moving in all over the world, it is important now more than ever that you get the truth.

00:24:46.680 There is a fight for the truth.

00:24:50.200 And I'll go into this a little bit later on in the program.

00:24:53.080 The New York Times just released something that I can't believe I read.

00:25:00.780 First of all, oil traders are betting on an Iran deal.

00:25:04.620 Apparently, we're very close to a deal with Iran where they'll be able to sell their oil.

00:25:10.940 So that'll take the pressure off for oil.

00:25:14.520 Are we out of our minds?

00:25:18.240 Understanding the rise of gas prices in the U.S.

00:25:21.440 This is, you ready?

00:25:23.200 This is from the New York Times.

00:25:24.640 This is what they want you to believe the cause of your gas prices going up is.

00:25:30.160 A steady rise.

00:25:31.460 American consumers have seen the constant cost of gasoline going up, along with many other

00:25:35.860 goods of services sharply in the recent weeks.

00:25:39.280 The role of crude oil production.

00:25:41.420 Gas prices have gone up in part because of fluctuations in supply and demand.

00:25:45.760 Demand for oil fell early in the pandemic, so oil-producing nations cut production.

00:25:50.420 But over the past year, demand for oil recovered far faster than production was restored.

00:25:55.520 Really?

00:25:55.940 Is that what it is?

00:25:57.260 Additional factors at play.

00:25:58.820 They must have covered it here.

00:26:00.360 The price of crude oil is only one element driving up the gas price, right?

00:26:04.620 Compliance with renewable fuel standards can contribute to the cost.

00:26:08.840 The price of ethanol has increased and labor shortages in the trucking industry.

00:26:13.680 Is that what it is?

00:26:15.620 Oh, no.

00:26:16.060 There's also this, a global energy crunch.

00:26:18.760 Other types of fuels, including natural gas and coal, are also growing more expensive.

00:26:24.820 Natural gas has shot up more than 150%, threatening to raise prices of food, chemicals, plastic goods,

00:26:29.940 and heat this winter.

00:26:31.540 And then there's this, the U.S. response to combat soaring prices and their effects on inflation.

00:26:36.180 President Biden has ordered a release of oil from the nation's emergency stockpile.

00:26:42.260 He also asked the Federal Trade Commission to investigate possible illegal contact by oil and gas companies.

00:26:48.840 There's something important missing, Stu.

00:26:51.060 What is it?

00:26:52.880 I don't know, Glenn.

00:26:54.480 What could it be?

00:26:55.200 What could it be?

00:26:55.980 The closing down of oil pipelines, the closing down of drilling, the closing down of gas and oil.

00:27:08.000 I don't know.

00:27:08.760 The supply side.

00:27:10.560 Oh, yeah.

00:27:11.200 Yeah.

00:27:11.620 Yeah.

00:27:12.100 Just that.

00:27:13.720 All right.

00:27:14.020 I want to, it's important that you know the facts so you can tell your friends, because that's the garbage they're getting if they're reading the mainstream media.

00:27:23.120 And something has changed recently.

00:27:26.400 It feels to me like the mainstream media has completely doubled down.

00:27:31.440 When Canada can say no bail and possibly a 10-year charge for the woman who helped organize the trucker convoy.

00:27:44.340 You mean commissioned mischief?

00:27:45.920 Is that what you're trying to say?

00:27:46.660 Yeah, commissioned mischief.

00:27:47.160 She's charged with commissioning or encouraging mischief.

00:27:51.440 And that apparently is a 10-year prison sentence.

00:27:56.360 No bail for her.

00:27:57.720 But the Antifa member that took his car and ran it into people at the trucker's site that wanted to kill people, he's out on bail.

00:28:09.120 He's out on bail.

00:28:10.240 And he might face 10 months.

00:28:12.260 Things are changing, and they're changing rapidly.

00:28:18.220 Now, I've told you before about the World Economic Forum, the Great Reset, but there was something called the Great Narrative.

00:28:25.320 And they asked writers from all over the world to come to Dubai and write the Great Narrative.

00:28:30.280 Well, it is out now.

00:28:31.420 And one of the writers in Substack has reviewed it, and it's so concise, I want to read it here.

00:28:41.700 In recognizing the end of COVID mania, the Great Narrative is attempting to remind to keep us on the edge.

00:28:48.760 It's a grand call to take sweeping action to fight the climate emergency via Klaus Schwab's credentialed elite.

00:28:56.860 It relentlessly hammers home the apparent necessity of taking dramatic, tyrannical measures to intervene in the climate.

00:29:05.940 And by intervening in the climate, he means radically reorienting every nation on Earth by imposing a totalitarian global governance order.

00:29:15.320 I'm telling you, people, this is coming, and it's coming faster than you can imagine.

00:29:20.300 According to Schwab, the world must rapidly be transformed according to the designs of the technocratic elite.

00:29:27.240 And we must adopt the ideas and policy preferences of 50 handpicked narrators interviewed for his book,

00:29:36.600 who he describes as global thinkers and public intellectuals.

00:29:41.240 Schwab describes the Great Narrative as a book that goes beyond the realm of theory and serves as a call to action.

00:29:49.580 We, quoting, we adopt the view that as they recover from the pandemic and embark on a path to radical and accelerated change,

00:29:57.760 radical and accelerated change, our societies and economies should be attuned to the needs of our global commons.

00:30:06.160 He entertains a variety of ideologies and political perspectives.

00:30:11.380 There is one group of people who are to be dismissed whole cloth.

00:30:15.980 That group is individuals and groups that don't buy into the climate narrative.

00:30:22.260 Schwab cannot hide his disdain for these rogue actors, who he notes, with disgust, are largely located in the United States.

00:30:32.340 According to Schwab, the enemies of his New World Order include nationalists, populists, individualists, and those who support free markets.

00:30:44.800 This is the guy who's bringing you the Great Reset.

00:30:48.460 Schwab describes this cohort of supposed evildoers as conspiracy theorists who are responsible for all the world's ills.

00:30:57.160 These individuals prop up, quote, anti-science movements that prolong the waning of COVID-19 pandemic.

00:31:05.480 He writes, adding that his group is, quote, this group is hindering both public health and more fundamentally our ability to move forward in unison, end quote.

00:31:16.880 Nudge, shove, shoot.

00:31:19.740 He says, the eye needs to be kept on the prize and there is no time to waste climate action, quoting sustainability, inclusivity, global cooperation, health and well-being are the most important issues to address in our times.

00:31:39.620 Quote, not moving right away and decisively would render our biosphere so hostile as to derail global economic growth and further endangering political and social stability.

00:31:52.220 One page after another, the World Economic Forum chief showcases the climate agenda.

00:31:58.400 Climate change is the, quote, greatest collective action problem we've ever been confronted with.

00:32:04.360 Humanity has never faced an endeavor more complex, ambitious and far reaching than arresting the collapse of our ecosystem and stabilizing the climate, end quote.

00:32:16.820 Klaus also shows off his unbelievable God complex as he frequently reminds the reader of his apparent, apparent, unlimited technocratic faculties.

00:32:28.780 He routinely reveals that he believes his group of colleagues have deity like powers and that once they unite their overall expertise, these technocrats once in charge of all of us can bring about unprecedented happiness and order.

00:32:46.180 He considers, quote, inequality, particularly on the financial side.

00:32:51.600 It is of the utmost importance.

00:32:53.780 But rather than create opportunity for the masses, he prefers a system of state control, which would, in his view, quote, reduce demonstrations and local unrest.

00:33:08.240 Schwab and his co-author advocate for a new social contract and propose a variety of solutions that will help bring the climate agenda forward.

00:33:16.700 He advocates for the consolidation of global central banks around climate action, acknowledging this transition period may be brutal to some.

00:33:28.100 They advocate for the harnessing of economic productivity through nature-based solutions.

00:33:33.040 They discuss the advent of the bio-economy or targeted destruction of reliable energy while forcing people to eat alternate food protein sources, i.e. beans and bugs.

00:33:49.420 Another solution is that of climate engineering.

00:33:52.940 I am not making this up, such as blocking out the sun in an attempt to manipulate global temperatures.

00:34:00.920 Klaus Schwab or Montgomery Burns?

00:34:02.480 I, I know.

00:34:05.100 Um, this is the great narrative.

00:34:09.060 This is the great reset.

00:34:11.260 If you don't know about it, please get my book, The Great Reset.

00:34:17.980 It is available, should be on bookshelves.

00:34:20.700 What's the date today?

00:34:22.300 20th?

00:34:22.780 22nd?

00:34:23.380 23rd.

00:34:24.000 23rd.

00:34:24.520 Should be on bookshelves again this week, if not next week.

00:34:27.840 Uh, Amazon is taking orders again so you can order it and get it shipped to your house.

00:34:33.700 You can also get the, uh, audio book wherever you get your audio books.

00:34:38.420 But please pass this information on to people.

00:34:42.460 Yeah, audio and Kindle are available.

00:34:44.460 And also, uh, you can get the first chapter for free if you go to glennsnewbook.com.

00:34:49.280 Um, so if you want to get started, that kind of paints the picture as to what the outcomes

00:34:53.340 could be.

00:34:53.920 Yeah.

00:34:54.340 When all this stuff goes through, what the world looks like, if all of this stuff happens,

00:34:58.260 uh, and it gives you, uh, uh, it sets the table pretty well for all the information that

00:35:03.260 follows it.

00:35:04.400 Make no mistake.

00:35:06.100 This is not capitalism.

00:35:09.380 Make no mistake.

00:35:10.680 Why would banks be fighting so hard to keep ESG if it wasn't ever going to be mandated by

00:35:19.840 them?

00:35:20.140 Why when states are starting to mount a defense against this and saying you cannot use ESG

00:35:28.560 to make any loans, you can use, you know, any kind of metrics you want when it comes to

00:35:35.200 finances, what is their job, how much money they make it, but you cannot look at their

00:35:39.060 social score.

00:35:40.540 And banks are saying, we're not going to, you've got to stop this regulation.

00:35:45.980 Why?

00:35:46.500 Why it's telling you, you can do business as usual.

00:35:49.920 It's telling you also, you can't use this.

00:35:53.460 If you're not going to use it, why are you fighting it so hard?

00:35:58.180 Why?

00:35:59.960 Why?

00:36:01.340 This is not capitalism.

00:36:03.640 This is to destroy the free market.

00:36:07.920 You're seeing the beginning in an emergency order in Canada.

00:36:11.880 It can happen overnight.

00:36:14.280 Call your legislature.

00:36:16.560 Get involved in your zoning.

00:36:18.840 Get on your city council.

00:36:21.160 Make sure ESG scores are out of your town and out of your state.

00:36:27.180 It is the only way to fight it.

00:36:29.340 Back in a minute.

00:36:29.880 A lot of good reasons to, uh, gosh, you know, let's see where tonight we're taking on the

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00:38:11.360 Stand up!

00:38:12.600 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:38:14.880 All righty.

00:38:32.340 So let's take on Putin now.

00:38:36.600 Putin is...

00:38:37.340 That's a lot of time.

00:38:37.820 I know, right?

00:38:38.120 It's been almost an hour.

00:38:39.300 I know.

00:38:39.940 Let's make another out of me.

00:38:42.340 Well, I want to take on two things.

00:38:44.240 First of all, this is driving me out of my mind that the media is now saying, Donald Trump

00:38:50.260 just loves Vladimir Putin.

00:38:52.800 He said he was a genius.

00:38:54.440 Yeah, I think he is a genius.

00:38:57.760 Let me say this.

00:38:58.880 Let me say this.

00:39:00.040 I've said before, I think the Great Reset will be studied for decades afterwards.

00:39:09.560 In 100 years from now, they will look back and go, that was genius.

00:39:13.840 I admire it because it's so genius.

00:39:16.900 It's so complex and so well executed.

00:39:19.280 I admire it.

00:39:21.180 I think it's evil, but I think it's genius.

00:39:25.980 Donald Trump is not saying, yeah, I'm glad he took it.

00:39:29.480 He's saying, look at what he's done.

00:39:31.480 Look at what he has done.

00:39:33.680 He has just taken two of these by walking in and saying, I'm a peacemaker.

00:39:39.680 He's flipped the tables.

00:39:42.240 I can't take it anymore.

00:39:44.240 Larry O'Donnell said yesterday at Twitter,

00:39:46.620 what would make the Russian oligarch Putin smart?

00:39:52.280 His weak education?

00:39:54.760 Oh, man.

00:39:58.160 Ouch.

00:39:58.840 Colleagues and Russian experts who challenge his thinking?

00:40:02.420 The burn.

00:40:04.320 Yeah.

00:40:05.160 Or has he had any valuable learning experiences anywhere else in the world?

00:40:10.300 Oh, man.

00:40:11.860 You see what he's saying?

00:40:12.900 He's not an elite.

00:40:14.140 He hasn't gone to the best finishing schools.

00:40:17.880 Ah.

00:40:18.440 I don't know.

00:40:18.820 The KGB finishing school is pretty impressive.

00:40:20.700 Yeah, it has a definite finish.

00:40:22.960 Yeah.

00:40:23.140 Oh, yeah.

00:40:23.800 It does.

00:40:25.380 I'm so sick of this.

00:40:27.340 Well, yeah.

00:40:27.660 I mean, look, he's using, he's strategically doing this.

00:40:30.500 Now, look, he's trying to justify an invasion.

00:40:32.940 But he's put himself in a position now that if his goal at the beginning of this was just to get these two regions,

00:40:39.680 he's already done it.

00:40:41.000 Yeah, it's not.

00:40:41.920 I mean, it's not.

00:40:42.800 No.

00:40:43.120 And I think it's going to escalate from here.

00:40:44.640 But if he wanted to just get a win here and embarrass the West, he could stop right now.

00:40:50.360 So, I'm going to give you a deeper look on Putin and what is happening all around the world, including America.

00:41:01.100 With a guy I've talked to now for over a year, I think he's one of the only guys that truly gets what's going on over there and here in America.

00:41:10.920 You want to understand what Putin is doing, learn Novo Russia will explain after the news at the top of the hour.

00:41:27.460 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:41:30.400 Okay, let me tell you about American financing.

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00:41:41.600 Save money wherever you can.

00:41:44.100 Cut costs wherever you can.

00:41:46.480 There's lots of things that you need to do.

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00:42:21.960 Got no room to compromise.

00:42:45.640 We've got to stand together.

00:42:50.200 Stand up straight and hold the line.

00:42:59.520 It's a new day of time to rise.

00:43:03.480 What you are about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:43:11.520 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:43:15.800 Stand up.

00:43:16.800 Hello, America, and welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:43:19.940 Today, at the 9 p.m. hour on Blaze TV, the Wednesday night special is taking on the CIA.

00:43:31.560 Is the CIA, were we trying to cover our tracks for what the CIA was doing and knew all about at the Wuhan labs?

00:43:44.520 Who was funding EcoHealth?

00:43:48.640 Peter Daszak.

00:43:50.480 We've told you and shown you the basic receipts for the money that has been exchanging hands.

00:43:56.840 But now we have an insider from EcoHealth who says he can tell you exactly what was going on, and it involves the CIA.

00:44:04.980 Tonight, you will see him live, and we have pushback from EcoHealth.

00:44:13.300 They immediately responded.

00:44:15.760 They didn't the last show we did, but this one, they were quick to respond, saying,

00:44:21.280 No, no, no, no, nothing to see here.

00:44:23.400 You decide tonight at 9 p.m.

00:44:27.200 Right now, I'm going to take you and give you an understanding of Putin, of Russia,

00:44:33.660 and warn you what's happening in our own country as well,

00:44:39.160 with a guy who I think is spot on,

00:44:43.500 and has done his homework on a very difficult topic.

00:44:47.520 I think the fourth political theory.

00:44:53.720 Alexander Dugan.

00:44:55.840 We start with Putin's speech.

00:44:58.640 What is he really after?

00:45:00.740 In 60 seconds.

00:45:05.300 I think we can all agree that the public education system in this country has gone completely off the rails,

00:45:11.560 even when school boards and teachers aren't trying to wedge woke ideology into your children's heads

00:45:18.080 and drive a wedge between you and your children.

00:45:22.620 They are still operating in an outdated and reductive way,

00:45:27.640 working to shape our children into a single, uniform type of person,

00:45:31.600 rather than giving them the freedom to discover their own interests and develop their abilities in different ways.

00:45:36.660 We really need to take charge of our kids' education.

00:45:44.580 John Taylor Gatto wrote in his work,

00:45:48.820 The American Education,

00:45:51.340 and the Tuttle Twins books present it in Tuttle Twins and The Education Vacation.

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00:46:28.340 Benjamin Teitelbaum.

00:46:30.080 He is the author of War for Eternity.

00:46:33.920 He is also Associate Professor at the University of Colorado Boulder.

00:46:38.780 Normally, I would say, warning, just from the book,

00:46:46.120 and that he's a professor at the University of Colorado Boulder.

00:46:49.280 However, I've talked to Benjamin several times over the last,

00:46:53.460 I think it's the last year, maybe it's been longer than that.

00:46:55.740 He is watching something and very concerned about something that I am concerned about,

00:47:02.240 and that is the influence of traditionalism as really defined by Alexander Dugan,

00:47:09.740 a very, very dangerous guy who is actually calling for Armageddon.

00:47:15.820 He actually believes that that's the thing that's going to solve all of our problems.

00:47:22.180 And I guess in a way he's right, but I don't think the way he's trying to pull it together.

00:47:26.860 Benjamin, can I call you Ben or Benjamin?

00:47:30.500 Ben, please.

00:47:31.360 Glenn, it's a pleasure to be with you this morning.

00:47:33.040 Thank you very much.

00:47:34.020 I know we've talked about doing this show for a long time,

00:47:36.460 and we may have to cut this into two shows and then maybe even a podcast as well.

00:47:41.200 But I want you to, let's start with Putin's speech and what he said that I think only a few people really can pick up on

00:47:52.580 that know who Alexander Dugan is and what his plan is.

00:47:57.540 So tell me what we learned from Putin's speech.

00:48:00.940 If you listen, and good morning again, Glenn, it's a pleasure to be with you.

00:48:05.340 If you listen to that whole speech, you could come away from it thinking that this was all about kind of dry policy decision-making on his part.

00:48:14.240 He spends a lot of time talking about the economy of Ukraine,

00:48:17.880 spends a lot of time talking about the history of the Soviet Union, the Communist Party,

00:48:22.060 some of the policy decisions that he thinks that they made wrong and need to be corrected.

00:48:25.620 But at the very beginning of that speech, he said something almost in passing that, yes,

00:48:31.780 would, I think, go by unnoticed for a lot of listeners.

00:48:36.540 He said that Ukrainians and Russians have a spiritual bond between the two of them.

00:48:44.080 And that tells me, and it should tell a lot of observers, that Putin is thinking in two ways,

00:48:50.840 and he's motivating himself in two ways.

00:48:52.640 There is this, again, this dry, almost technical policy-based discussion and motivation.

00:49:00.060 He's trying to push to the Russian people to say, well, we have to do this because NATO is going to come to our borders.

00:49:06.020 Ukraine perhaps has nuclear ambitions.

00:49:09.160 We have to deal with that.

00:49:10.880 The other piece, though, is that Russia has a sort of spiritual mandate to collect its lost children

00:49:20.480 and to unite itself with the populations around the world that are its natural kin.

00:49:28.620 That is what stands out to me as I hear this, and that is what also makes this particular situation

00:49:35.320 that we're dealing with today actually about something far much bigger and much more intractable, I would say, as well.

00:49:40.820 Okay, so let's talk about Dugan and just define traditionalism.

00:49:45.440 This is something that if you read the fourth political theory, there are times that you will read it and go,

00:49:55.240 yeah, I kind of agree with that, because I think this is what Brexit is about.

00:50:00.620 I think this is what some Canadians feel.

00:50:03.320 I think this is what some Americans all over the world, people are feeling like, hey, you know, I'm French,

00:50:09.300 and, you know, I think France is pretty great, and I'd like to be French, and I'm not embarrassed about France.

00:50:16.640 Same thing with Brexit.

00:50:18.220 They want to be British.

00:50:19.900 It's this feeling that we are being told that our traditions and our country is not good,

00:50:28.420 doesn't have anything special about it.

00:50:31.600 And people are pushing back on that.

00:50:34.200 All of our traditions are being threatened.

00:50:37.960 That part of his definition of traditionalism is, I think, something that connects with people all around the world.

00:50:46.840 But that's not what it means, correct?

00:50:50.400 That's just a small piece of it.

00:50:52.600 And sometimes, you know, when we're exploring ideas, details matter.

00:50:56.640 You can have a sort of doctrine that is appealing in a lot of senses, but a small detail can turn into something sinister.

00:51:04.000 So when Putin is referring to the spiritual mandates of Russia, that connects him with a prominent Russian philosopher,

00:51:13.620 kind of a mysterious mandate, and a political operative named Alexander Dugan.

00:51:17.200 He has associated himself with a philosophy called traditionalism or the traditional school.

00:51:23.560 It asserts that time does not move in linear fashion.

00:51:27.920 That is to say, we're not necessarily progressing forward in a clear direction.

00:51:32.420 But instead, it moves in cycles.

00:51:33.960 And most of the time, society is degrading, save for one moment when there's an apocalyptic explosion and destruction of the social world,

00:51:43.900 and we are reborn into a golden age.

00:51:46.280 It's that last piece, Glenn, that is so key here.

00:51:49.940 Because when you look at history in the way that these traditionalists do, there can be justification for Armageddon, as you put it, for destruction, mass destruction.

00:52:00.200 Chaos.

00:52:00.880 Just total and complete chaos.

00:52:04.080 Yes.

00:52:04.780 As a sort of prelude to a golden age, a utopia that we're going to be reborn into.

00:52:12.040 That's one of the distinguishing features.

00:52:14.300 That is what is paired with this, I'd say, small-t traditionalism that you were referring to earlier.

00:52:20.560 People wanting to preserve and conserve values and identities that matter to them.

00:52:26.860 This apocalyptic aspect of the ideology is what is distinguishing this way of thinking.

00:52:32.980 I will tell you that Ben and I have talked off the air, and I've wanted to do this show for a while,

00:52:40.440 but I have waited until I think people are in the right frame of mind to understand it.

00:52:47.440 I think this is one of the most critical things that we can learn about, especially those of us on the right.

00:52:55.620 Because this is how you will know if there is a troublemaker in your midst.

00:53:02.360 Because a lot of people will hear some of this stuff and go, yeah, that's me too.

00:53:11.140 But that's not what they mean.

00:53:13.180 And they have a different vision of the future.

00:53:17.860 So please listen to what we're talking about here.

00:53:23.020 It goes way beyond Russia.

00:53:26.380 But let me stay in Russia for just a couple of more minutes.

00:53:29.720 What is NovoRussia?

00:53:35.260 NovoRussia.

00:53:36.060 This is Dugan's way of describing these eastern territories in Ukraine

00:53:43.820 that are breaking off, apparently, and have been recognized as independent states,

00:53:49.400 people's republics by Putin.

00:53:52.080 Dugan has been referring to them as new Russia, as a new expansion.

00:53:56.400 And Putin in the past has borrowed that language from this renegade philosopher

00:54:01.060 that I've been speaking to you about.

00:54:02.900 He used that.

00:54:04.200 I mean, Crimea was really a Dugan plan, wasn't it?

00:54:09.480 Absolutely.

00:54:10.340 I mean, it was one small piece of a Dugan plan.

00:54:12.900 I can, to catch your listeners up, Dugan, after the fall of the Soviet Union,

00:54:19.440 this philosopher, after the Soviet Union fell apart, he wanted to see not the revival

00:54:25.520 of communism and the communist state, but a Russian nationalism that would expand

00:54:30.220 almost to the exact boundaries of the former Soviet Union,

00:54:34.380 but do so not carrying this secular ideology, but instead a really fanatical Russian nationalism

00:54:42.060 and federalism.

00:54:43.820 And all of those states that started to move out of the Russian sphere, Georgia, the Baltics,

00:54:50.680 Ukraine, all of those, in his mind, were targets to be brought back in.

00:54:54.180 And it was imperative that Russia do it forcefully, decisively, to establish a boundary

00:54:59.560 for American and liberal democratic ideology in the world.

00:55:04.920 It was important for him to set a boundary there to show that liberalism, that democracy,

00:55:09.740 lowercase l, liberalism, was not the fate of the whole world.

00:55:13.400 But in fact, those territories needed to imagine a different future for themselves,

00:55:17.820 a future that returned, in his mind, to their roots, rather than looked forward to a different future.

00:55:23.780 And it is the same kind of thing, in a way, that Hitler used faith of people.

00:55:32.100 He used all different faiths.

00:55:34.640 It wasn't just Christianity.

00:55:36.040 He destroyed those faiths as he went in.

00:55:38.580 But Dugan is using faith, and that's why that spiritual element,

00:55:43.180 because the Ukraine plays a very important part for Eastern Orthodox Christianity, right?

00:55:51.120 It is the spiritual, I don't know, center for that, isn't it?

00:55:57.840 It's one of them, for sure.

00:56:00.280 It's also a sort of mythological center for the origins of the Russian ethnicity and state as well.

00:56:07.640 Which is even worse, because that's exactly what Hitler was doing with all of the other religions.

00:56:12.860 He was tying, he was just tying all these myths together.

00:56:17.560 Yes, you know, you look at the union of religion and nationalism,

00:56:22.180 and that you start to find yourself in a place where your state acts as though it has a divine mandate.

00:56:28.560 And that is a dangerous place to be.

00:56:31.060 It's not surprising, and what perhaps surprised your listeners,

00:56:34.100 given what we're saying here, that one of Dugan's ideal states in the world today is Iran.

00:56:37.940 Iran, because there you have a union of state power with religious authority,

00:56:44.100 and the ability, really the justification for anyone in that state to question the actions of the government

00:56:51.080 is shackled, because if you do that, you are questioning a religious authority that's not allowed to be questioned.

00:56:58.560 So this is all, all this goes to a celebration of authoritarianism and a way to equip the power of the state

00:57:09.480 or a demagogue with greater cultural, in addition to military and economic and political power.

00:57:16.260 All right, I want to talk about the fourth political theory, if you can define what it is.

00:57:21.220 I also want to do one more thing, a stop on Putin.

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00:59:07.460 We are with Benjamin Teitelbaum, the author of War for Eternity.

00:59:12.320 He is a guy who I have talked to several times.

00:59:16.780 I think there's about three of us, Ben, that are watching and understand the importance of Alexander Dugan.

00:59:28.020 And it's a little frightening.

00:59:30.140 Everybody I talk to, I think there's one other guy that I know, that we all look at each other and go,

00:59:36.540 why aren't people paying attention to this?

00:59:39.260 It's so important.

00:59:40.080 What is the fourth political theory?

00:59:46.800 So, yeah, this is a challenge, Glenn, to explain.

00:59:49.780 I know, I know.

00:59:50.080 But if, when Alexander Dugan speaks about a fourth political theory, he's speaking about an alternative to the other three made Western ideologies that fought throughout the last century.

01:00:06.060 That is to say, liberalism being one, lowercase l, it's, you know, when Americans hear liberalism, you think Democratic Party.

01:00:14.040 But we're really just talking about free market, democracy, rights of individual rule of law.

01:00:19.180 And communism being a second one and fascism being a third.

01:00:25.720 Dugan's belief was was that communism and liberalism in World War Two combined forces to kill the third political theory, fascism.

01:00:34.500 And then liberalism, the first political theory allowed communism to die of old age, essentially with the with the Soviet Union.

01:00:43.480 But Dugan wants to see an alternative to all all of these, one that you might say fuses elements of the second and the third of communism and fascism.

01:00:53.880 In his mind, the danger of liberalism and the lower lowercase l liberal democratic world is is its rampant individualism and its contempt for history, its its devotion to progress and the belief that really our roots are something to be overcome and escaped.

01:01:12.660 And also its will toward globalization and building larger, larger and larger communities.

01:01:18.440 What he wants to see is a world that is shrunken, basically, in its scope and where the identity of your group or your tribe becomes the primary object of political activism.

01:01:33.540 That is to say, not the individual as in liberalism, not the class as in communism and not the race, per se, as in fascism, but a slightly, let's say, related concept, which is the ethnos or the or small community or the tribe to see a society that works on preserving those differences.

01:01:54.280 That's that's that's what a fourth political theory should be doing, and it should be, in his mind, opposed to progress, opposed to development and certainly opposed to any any larger state like the United States operating on the global sphere.

01:02:09.180 So you can hear that and say, wow, I see pieces of that from both the right and the left, and, you know, I see a new world order being shaped like that, except he wants to destroy anything global.

01:02:29.500 He also wants to destroy the United States, and I think there are some others that would like to do that, and they are using some of those tactics.

01:02:37.760 He sees the United States, any pathway toward realizing this goal has to, in his mind, go through the destruction of the United States, at least if U.S. global hegemonic power, occasionally he'll say that if the United States were firmly contained within its own borders and its ideals never, never spread anyplace else throughout the world,

01:03:06.380 then perhaps we could coexist. But it's about containing U.S. power.

01:03:10.580 Okay, 45 seconds before the break. Tell me, is he, is Putin operating, do you think, in Ukraine more under that, or on just a, you know, quick business capitalist, I just want money and I'm going to get those ports?

01:03:27.280 I tell you, I think the way that he has been speaking recently makes it seem like the business-like estimation of Ukraine is more of a facade and excuse to do what he wants to do, which is expand this Russian state.

01:03:43.800 Okay, good. That's good news. Now, we're going to turn to America. Really important that you listen with an open mind on this. Next.

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01:05:12.500 I don't come to this segment lightly and this segment is really for adults and I'm probably going to have to have Ben on again to go through all of this.

01:05:38.200 But just as in the way I say that the Great Reset has nothing to do with capitalism, it is set out to destroy capitalism, they use the word capitalism, stakeholder capitalism.

01:05:53.820 That is a ruse. That is to get people who are not paying attention or haven't done deep work on what stakeholder capitalism is to just go along with it and think, oh, yeah, they're like me.

01:06:08.200 But they're not. Today, there's a big thing in the news that Donald Trump loves Putin.

01:06:16.240 He's just he just said he was a genius. Well, I have to tell you, I think he is, too.

01:06:21.020 As a chess player, I think he is a genius.

01:06:24.960 And that is the way Donald Trump sees Putin.

01:06:29.420 I know I've talked to him off air about it.

01:06:32.340 He believes he is a genius chess player and he is working the system and he knows how to work things.

01:06:41.340 That doesn't mean you love him or you're rooting for him.

01:06:45.780 You're seeing the game being played.

01:06:48.000 So there is admiration and there's love.

01:06:54.960 There is traditionalism that when I say that word, ninety nine point nine nine nine percent of this audience has in their mind what I always had lowercase traditionalism.

01:07:08.300 And then there is uppercase traditionalism.

01:07:11.820 Donald Trump, I don't believe, knows anything about traditionalism.

01:07:15.540 But.

01:07:16.140 One of his former advisers and a guy that Trump kicked out, Steve Bannon, knows everything about it.

01:07:26.300 I've talked to Ben Teitelbaum several times about Steve Bannon and about uppercase traditionalism, which comes from this crazy guy in Russia.

01:07:38.800 And it's very confusing.

01:07:43.360 Most people don't know it.

01:07:45.100 They'll hear Ben and talk about traditional values, et cetera, et cetera, and they will associate it with something else.

01:07:52.500 He is an uppercase traditionalism.

01:07:56.260 Ben Teitelbaum is with us now.

01:07:58.940 He wrote the book The War for Eternity.

01:08:02.700 Welcome back, Ben.

01:08:04.920 Pleasure to be with you, Glenn.

01:08:06.440 Do I have that right?

01:08:07.680 What I just said.

01:08:09.740 Absolutely.

01:08:10.860 I think if some of the ideas that we're talking about, people would be excused, I think, for associating them with with much more familiar, let's say, conservative right wing values in the U.S.

01:08:24.420 Correct.

01:08:24.920 Smaller government.

01:08:27.780 Let's let's say a new opposition to internationalism and international interventionism.

01:08:33.700 Even the 10th Amendment could be a traditional value that uppercase traditionalist would would be for break it up into a smaller group.

01:08:45.480 Yes.

01:08:45.980 Right.

01:08:46.380 You have to imagine, instead, to see what is distinct about these ideas that we're focusing on here, Glenn, you have to imagine all those principles driven to an extreme that you never imagined.

01:08:58.100 You have to think about, yeah, not just states' rights, but perhaps even breaking up states into smaller groups and completely eliminating the federal government altogether.

01:09:08.420 Having no coordination between different parts of the United States, having absolutely no international presence whatsoever, taking no thought for for our position in the world.

01:09:21.400 That's where we are in the distinction.

01:09:24.680 It might seem like it's just a matter of degree, but some some of these differences, some of these details are so important that we're speaking about entirely different animal altogether.

01:09:32.440 Yeah, because, again, your book is called War for Eternity, and this is played on a spiritual level.

01:09:41.200 And he actually calls for the end of the world as we know it.

01:09:47.200 I mean, I don't think there's much difference between his philosophy and the philosophy of those who call themselves Twelvers that believe that they can hasten the return of the promised one by creating chaos.

01:10:02.680 Yes, it really isn't.

01:10:05.120 There's not there's not much of a difference between the two of them there.

01:10:08.980 They're they're they're quite close.

01:10:10.920 And it's in this instance, we're talking about someone who we're talking about figures who have power, who are so foreign to our ways of thinking that we might not recognize it.

01:10:25.480 I mean, right.

01:10:26.180 Glenn, when I came on your show this morning, you're sending you to the conservative audience.

01:10:29.880 I'm coming from the University of Colorado Boulder.

01:10:31.900 There's got to be so many differences between us.

01:10:34.860 But it you realize how much we probably share with each other.

01:10:39.260 Oh, yeah.

01:10:39.780 You see an ideology.

01:10:41.260 Hey, Ben, do you like do you like the Bill of Rights?

01:10:45.060 Yes.

01:10:45.420 So do I.

01:10:46.120 Good.

01:10:46.360 Let's move on.

01:10:48.000 That's really our political our political unum.

01:10:52.560 If if you will fight for my freedom of speech, I'll fight for your freedom of speech.

01:10:57.480 We're good.

01:10:58.520 Everything else is is secondary to that.

01:11:01.060 And I think we better get to that union pretty quickly here.

01:11:05.680 And I'm sure that we even if we look at it in slightly different ways, we also believe in the rights and the dignity of the individual.

01:11:11.900 Yes.

01:11:12.260 You know, it might be thought of differently, but that that simple principle that can seem kind of boring, I think, in our conversation, because we all actually agree on it, that is contested by people with a lot of power.

01:11:24.920 And and and they also some of these figures do not believe that our idea can exist in the world on its own.

01:11:31.780 They see it as a sort of parasite that if it exists here, it will potentially spread everywhere.

01:11:37.500 And therefore, it has to be contained and fought back on all possible fronts.

01:11:42.180 That is what we are potentially dealing with in Russia, especially for if we have a less business like and a more ideological Putin at the helm.

01:11:52.020 Tell me a little bit about the fourth political theory.

01:11:56.000 He he he he talks about modernity and really the he wants to take us back to a time before we were modern.

01:12:07.220 What does that mean?

01:12:09.900 That means a time when we did not necessarily look to the future as as as a way to improve our lives.

01:12:18.300 And really that improvement of society was not in itself a self-evident value looks to a time when we would not value the contributions of the individual, value free and rational thinking, not value democracy as as a potentially a new political model that could and ought to shape the societies that we live in.

01:12:46.760 All of those features also not think globally, not think about our relationships with with others and not also and this is key, I think, for a lot of Christians, not think about universality of values.

01:13:01.700 One of the messages of Christianity, of course, has been the the universal salvation for humanity, that that God's salvation is equally available and equally relevant to all human beings on this planet.

01:13:16.600 That's that's that's underlying evangelical impulse, of course, that in the eyes of these traditionalists is an inherently modern intrusion or element or seed in Christianity that has to be resisted.

01:13:31.360 And that we need instead to be closing ourselves off, not thinking globally, not thinking universally, not thinking individualistically or in terms of progress at all.

01:13:43.460 That's that's modernity to these thinkers and what what needs to be fought against.

01:13:49.000 When when when you said that the fourth political theory is something that really combines the strengths of Nazism and communism, I'm trying to think what those strengths were beside totalitarianism, just brutal.

01:14:05.340 Live my way or else.

01:14:07.140 We I mean, we see the overwhelming force of the state, but for for these thinkers, what the state tends to represent, it's not just some powerful despot.

01:14:19.680 Instead, it is a manifestation of of the collective and that opposite the individual.

01:14:26.820 Let's say that that your political life, your cultural, your social life needs to all be oriented around the collective.

01:14:33.540 And whereas communism focused, focused, focused its efforts on on class communities, on, you know, who how much material wealth you have or do not have in your relationship to production for for the fourth political theory, it is about religious slash cultural communities.

01:14:51.900 That's where everything needs to be oriented.

01:14:54.220 And there may not be a proper public consideration for individual will and divergence on an individual level.

01:15:01.580 So that's that's where we see these things fitting together.

01:15:05.200 Um, Ben, I would like to invite you back.

01:15:08.000 We'll have to look at our schedules and see when we can do it.

01:15:10.740 But, you know, as early as tomorrow, but next week, I would like you to show this in action because people will say, as I know, because I've heard it, they don't he's this is a crazy crackpot theory from a guy in Russia.

01:15:26.280 Yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada.

01:15:27.720 It is it is global and financially sound.

01:15:33.700 And it infects all kinds of movements, um, all over the world that are legitimate people saying, you know, I want to be English.

01:15:44.480 I don't hate Europe.

01:15:46.340 I just I want to be English and I'll be part of Europe.

01:15:49.240 and it infects those uh movements and uh the media has it all wrong they're just they're

01:15:57.200 demonizing everybody and they don't know which are the good guys and which are the bad guys so

01:16:04.020 can you come back and show it in action uh broad and here absolutely absolutely i would i would be

01:16:12.220 happy to glenn it's it's a part of the reason the challenge of this topic is that we have to ask

01:16:17.320 viewers to to hold a couple ideas in their heads at the same time i know your viewers can do that

01:16:22.640 i'm very very sorry that the mainstream media doesn't always allow that but we have to see room

01:16:27.060 for criticism of of globalism and for let's say american expansionism with our military and the

01:16:35.440 fact that uh completely closing ourselves off and regressing is not a good idea yeah and i think it's

01:16:44.920 also i i think the bigger hurdle for our audience may be uh capital t and lower t traditionalism

01:16:52.120 that's where i think most people will get confused um because it plays right in i mean i know i i've

01:16:59.660 read the book and the first few pages i because i knew who he was i was letting myself experience

01:17:07.220 it as a reader and noticing when i was going yeah i agree with that yeah i agree with that

01:17:12.660 but it's not what he means it to be uh and that's the secret so ben thank you very much

01:17:20.980 we'll we'll talk again soon benjamin teitelbaum the author of war for eternity we appreciate him

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01:18:58.760 welcome to the glennbeck program uh don't listen to any any of these obnoxious

01:19:24.620 and ridiculous charges uh that everyone from the new york times all of the left-wing media

01:19:31.360 is now saying about donald trump i mean i really honestly i feel sorry for those who watch the

01:19:38.400 mainstream media and get their news solely from them i really do they are going to be so shocked

01:19:43.960 when all of this stuff happens and they won't know why they don't know why gas prices are going up

01:19:51.600 they think it's because of russia no that has a part to do with it but the bigger part is the

01:19:58.180 policies of this administration that shut everything down on day one yeah not to mention a told i mean

01:20:07.140 think gosh look at all the stuff they're accusing of with the russia thing for example oh well russia

01:20:11.560 you know he's he was calling him a genius i mean you read you read you look at this in context and it's

01:20:16.900 it's like how i would talk about tom brady right like yeah he's yeah he's really he's the greatest

01:20:21.320 quarterback of all time i can't stand him but he's the greatest quarterback like there's a grudging

01:20:25.640 respect for the way he's plays chess as you pointed it out um i don't think donald trump has a begrudging

01:20:31.760 respect for putin as a player he looks at putin and is like that guy gets it done i don't agree with

01:20:41.420 him and he wouldn't have gotten it done if i were playing against him but he's a great player of the

01:20:47.680 game yeah you know that's how you would look at someone you give them you have to there has to be

01:20:54.220 a level of respect you give a an adversary that if you don't understand that they're good at playing

01:21:00.080 this game you wind up playing it like joe biden is playing it exactly right biden's stance here was

01:21:05.380 he doesn't want me to be president putin doesn't want me to be president because he knows i'll go toe to

01:21:10.500 toe with him that's that's what he tweeted i know and you know and nothing could be further

01:21:15.120 from the truth he was thrilled to see joe biden elected yeah i mean come on and it's it's there is

01:21:22.600 no respect for biden from putin putin does not look at biden and go oh that's a tough adversary he

01:21:29.560 knows the game we're playing it's a total joke and and and that total joke is partly because no one

01:21:37.360 seemingly in the administration or on the left understands how good putin is at this game

01:21:44.980 and let's not forget that joe biden went on national television and told vladimir putin and

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01:24:31.860 i read an article a couple of days ago about the social credit system arriving in canada and can

01:24:47.340 we stop it here i read the article and then i looked at the byline and i am thrilled to say he is

01:24:54.300 joining us here in just a minute somebody who knows somebody with some real credibility on what

01:25:00.960 social credit uh what social credit scores can do to the average person and how it can come here

01:25:09.500 quickly his name is david sachs he's the founding coo of paypal he joins me in 60 seconds

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01:26:43.540 david sacks it is an honor and a privilege to have you on the program thank you sir

01:26:48.960 yeah great to be here thanks glenn um so let's let's talk a little bit about um uh the social

01:26:57.140 credit system people i think see this in canada i i don't know how people aren't all up in arms on

01:27:04.780 what's going on um but they may still think that that well it can't happen here can we talk about

01:27:11.320 what's happening right well it's already it's already happening here uh you know last year i

01:27:17.400 wrote this piece for very wise about uh that financial platform would be the next wave of

01:27:22.840 online censorship i mean i was worrying about this last year because paypal

01:27:26.520 today i helped found you know but we sold many years ago it's now under new management

01:27:31.140 um they are working with partisan left-wing groups like the adl and the spLC to define lists

01:27:37.580 of individuals and groups who they deem to have you know extremist or unacceptable views

01:27:41.880 and they're denied access to uh paypal accounts and there are other financial institutions who are

01:27:47.940 following suit uh the collective effect of which is to shut people out of the financial system

01:27:52.580 and if you think it's bad to deny people the right to free speech and to participate

01:27:57.240 in the online marketplace of ideas how much worse is it to provide them access to the new economy to

01:28:03.520 the way that they can buy food and medicine and other products for their families uh you know it is

01:28:09.580 really a very severe form of punishment and social control and you know that is what we're talking

01:28:16.860 about we talk about a social credit system we're talking about a system that you know sort of pretends

01:28:22.540 to allow political dissent doesn't just send you to the gulag but it conditions your ability to access

01:28:28.320 the economy that and the benefits society it conditions that on having the correct views on

01:28:34.380 having the acceptable views and you know what did justin trudeau do he declared right out of the gate

01:28:40.960 that these protesters had unacceptable views and then he proceeded to uh freeze their bank accounts

01:28:46.720 and to shut off anybody who might contribute to them that is really terrifying the way the way he said

01:28:54.480 you know we're gonna we're gonna shut down their accounts we're gonna close the off ramps for

01:28:59.140 bitcoin it's not only them but it's anybody who donated to them or quote helped them that's right

01:29:07.840 that anybody anybody anybody who was quote indirectly directly or indirectly involved in the protest

01:29:14.460 was now subject to this this law in the you know this emergencies act that he invoked uh without

01:29:22.020 really proper basis and you know anyone who you know quote unquote provided property to help facilitate

01:29:28.940 the protest could now be swept up in the dragon head and so it's not just if you're say you know one of

01:29:34.280 the organizers of the protest but if you're you know a little old grandma somewhere and you want to

01:29:39.880 contribute 25 dollars so that you know a trucker really a poor destitute trucker can buy a hot meal

01:29:46.840 or some fuel to keep themselves from freezing at night if that's your intent making that donation

01:29:51.460 you can still be swept up in this and you can have your bank account frozen and one of the you know

01:29:56.400 incredible things about it is not just this unprecedented extension of aiding and abetting liability but

01:30:01.340 also that it's retroactive that you know grandma who made the contribution at the time she did it was

01:30:06.880 completely illegal and yet under this order she can now have her account frozen as punishment and so

01:30:14.320 what what is the point of this it is to signal and there's going to be a chilling effect in the future

01:30:19.240 that even if you make a completely lawful donation to a political cause if that if justin true doesn't

01:30:26.280 like that cause if he thinks there are quote-unquote unacceptable views that he has the power that he can

01:30:31.020 invoke the power at some point in the future to freeze your bank account even though what you did is legal

01:30:35.440 today that is the precedent they've created and i think the result of that must be a chilling effect

01:30:40.920 on political defense oh big time they're they're um you know also including insurance companies i mean

01:30:47.600 he took their license away their license to do business their trucks away their insurance away uh and

01:30:54.760 their uh their banking having them debanked and then said even when this is over banks might want to

01:31:03.240 consider not doing uh business with these people so basically i mean they're lepers

01:31:09.460 absolutely yes absolutely i mean they're really creating a case of of untouchables there in canada i

01:31:18.220 mean like you said they're they're towing their trucks or confiscating them the mayor of ontario even

01:31:23.000 said let's sell off these trucks we've seized them now sell them off we're going to use them to pay our

01:31:27.740 bills uh they want to give these guys a criminal record so they can never work again they've taken away

01:31:32.460 their insurance they've taken away the regulatory licenses and then on top of that because anybody

01:31:37.740 who helps them who contributes to them can themselves now be frozen no one's going to want to help them

01:31:44.080 so what what happens to those people david what happens to them you cut people's you cut people's um

01:31:52.680 money off you how do you survive they're they're creating a a group of destitute and desperate people

01:32:03.840 and you have to wonder for what i mean the covid pandemic is is on the way and it's at an end

01:32:11.420 even as justin trudeau was invoking these emergency powers the you know a number of the provinces were

01:32:17.600 ending covid mandates they got the message he never got the message it's this extreme intolerance

01:32:22.640 i you know i i have news for you though david i i don't you know even if it was waning i mean i

01:32:28.700 watched um occupy wall street i was in new york during occupy wall street as long as you're not

01:32:34.520 breaking the law or destroying property you you have a right to do that i never said we should sweep

01:32:41.400 those people up that's craziness that's craziness and i should be even stronger on the people i disagree

01:32:48.240 with i should fight for their right more than my right because who will fight for mine

01:32:53.940 exactly i mean this is absolutely about the right of of people to be able to engage in in speech and

01:33:02.960 political expression and to have the right to protest against their government and these were

01:33:07.440 almost entirely peaceful protests um there was no violence and yet trudeau instantly denounced all

01:33:14.800 the protesters as basically being terrorists you know uh what about terrorists yeah exactly which

01:33:21.020 allowed them to apply these anti-terrorist laws to you know to freeze their bank house the the most

01:33:28.180 extreme forms of um you know the most extreme powers that the government has which is to act on

01:33:34.620 terrorist threat were thereby invoked to really go after these ordinary you know working class men and

01:33:41.960 women we're talking to david sax he's the founding ce ceo of paypal and he is warning about the coming

01:33:50.280 social credit system uh that is in canada and do we have time to stop it here you know one of the

01:33:56.480 things david that i found um even as shocking is the fact that there was a hacker who went in hacked

01:34:07.560 took all of these names doxed everybody and the media published them and started humiliating them

01:34:16.320 uh and pilloring them in public that's right and it had real consequences there was a owner of a gelato

01:34:25.400 shop who was exposed as having made a small contribution to the protesters that they got so

01:34:31.000 many threats they had to shut down their shop there was a low-level government employee who donated

01:34:35.260 a hundred dollars she was fired from her job because of that so there's been real reprisals

01:34:39.960 based on that hack and you know i'm old enough to remember when social media cited as the reason

01:34:46.320 they wouldn't publish that they would suppress the hunter biden stories for the election that it came

01:34:50.200 from hacked material right where was that policy implemented today right um you know this was this

01:34:56.200 was illegally obtained material and the press has reported it so david you know i don't know if you're up

01:35:02.020 on esg but that is that's what um trudeau has done without the emergency order um if you fall out of line

01:35:12.500 with es or g uh you're going to be debanked um or you will start to uh feel the heat of the banking

01:35:22.400 and uh financial and insurance system uh how far away from this system are we to have a a true credit

01:35:32.860 score do you see this happening sooner rather than later and what do we do to stop it yeah well this

01:35:39.840 is my main concern is you know at the end of the day i'm not a canadian and you know i watch with

01:35:44.920 what's happening over there but ultimately it's going to be up to canadians to govern themselves what

01:35:49.380 what i'm mostly concerned about is the precedent that trudeau has set that progressives here in

01:35:55.560 america might look to and implement and let's identify the elements of the ingredients of this

01:36:01.080 toxic stew that already exists over here first of all you've got big tech companies like you know

01:36:06.120 my alma mater paypal have been freezing accounts based on you know working with partisan political

01:36:12.760 groups so you know to shut people out of the financial system that practice is already

01:36:16.740 taking place second you've got state of emergencies in states like california where i live where the

01:36:23.900 governor is still operating under a state of emergency he has invoked emergency powers that never seem to

01:36:28.700 end even though we just had a super bowl where 30 000 people were sitting you know elbow to elbow

01:36:33.660 without any masks on yet we're still in the state of emergency third we have recently the department

01:36:39.580 of homeland security has now defined misinformation about covid or the election to be a contributor

01:36:46.460 to the terrorist threat level so in other words misinformation in their view can contribute to

01:36:50.600 terrorism so we have now all the ingredients where you have politicians invoking fake state of

01:36:56.280 emergencies you've got big tech companies shunning people out of the political system and you've got this

01:37:01.120 very scary and dangerous redefinition of terrorism to effectively apply to domestic political dissent

01:37:07.620 so you have all the ingredients there that justin trudeau was able to seize on

01:37:12.560 all you're really lacking is the emergency necessary to invoke those powers um so that is what i'm afraid

01:37:20.100 of is i see all the precedents coming together but we have one thing in the united states that

01:37:24.520 canada doesn't have which is a rich constitutional tradition we have the protections under the

01:37:29.620 constitution and so i'm i'm hopeful that our stream court would protect us against um you know an

01:37:37.380 authoritarian attack on our liberties this way however there are many in our you know political

01:37:43.260 system who want to pack the stream court as it stands today and and what would happen if the

01:37:48.200 stream court were packed they would water down these rights and liberties and protections that we

01:37:52.020 have i think this is an issue that supersedes all others you know any political candidate who would

01:37:57.980 give support to packing the stream court should be instantly rejected i think by everybody across the

01:38:03.260 political spectrum and furthermore i would say you know uh biden has a scotus pick coming up the

01:38:09.080 republicans on the senate judiciary committee should make this topic number one what do they think

01:38:12.960 about the use of these authoritarian powers these fake state of emergencies let's hear from them

01:38:17.460 you know i don't think republicans will be able to stop the scotus pick but let's put them on the

01:38:21.680 record and um and discuss this issue there are there any other people that have this point of view

01:38:29.800 that is they're in your business they're in tech i mean it feels like uh as the average person it

01:38:37.300 feels like we are just up against this monolithic monster

01:38:41.940 yeah i mean glad it's uh it's rather scary i mean i'm definitely an outlier in the in the tech

01:38:49.940 industry you know i've been involved in the tech industry for over 20 years uh first as a founder now as

01:38:56.340 an investor and i can tell you that there are other people who do share to one degree or another

01:39:02.480 my concerns about civil liberties i mean i think it does extend across the political spectrum however

01:39:06.900 they definitely feel intimidated into silence um they believe that there will be reprisals for

01:39:12.660 speaking out and so i would say my i'm not alone in my views but there aren't too many people speaking

01:39:19.400 out and and that's that's pretty scary and not that you would care at this point but have you

01:39:24.560 have you paid a price for it um you know not that uh not that i can tell i mean i would say uh i mean

01:39:34.880 i'm gonna but but here's the thing was i'm at a stage in my career yeah where i don't have to worry

01:39:39.600 about it you know if i never made another time frankly i'd be fine so for me speaking out is the

01:39:45.480 most important thing and you know if it costs me some business that i don't know about then so be

01:39:50.840 it you know um but but so so far i've been i've been fine and you know what i'm trying to do i've

01:39:57.640 participated on this podcast called the all-in pod with a few friends in tech well you know one of the

01:40:02.940 main reasons why i've spoken out is to show people that you can speak out and and they should have a

01:40:07.800 little bit more courage in doing so um because i don't think the majority of people across you know

01:40:15.340 across the political spectrum want to see our civil liberties eroded this way i think it is a bipartisan

01:40:21.620 issue certainly for uh republicans independents and i'd say even many democrats but there is a

01:40:28.400 hard political left the sort of the progressive left that is driving all of this and one of the

01:40:35.140 reasons why they're successful at driving this is because moderates will not are too afraid to speak

01:40:39.560 out and oppose it yeah so i don't think there's a majority but they are driving the agenda because

01:40:45.220 no one will speak out against it and it's really a very hypocritical agenda because i mean these people

01:40:52.280 you look at trudeau his self-conception is completely at odds with the reality i mean he claims to be

01:40:57.660 saving democracy preserving democracy even as he is invoking you know authoritarian powers he claims to be

01:41:04.020 the defender of the little guy of the working class and the disadvantaged while you know crushing

01:41:09.420 these you know poor working class truck drivers under the sort of heel of of his government um you know

01:41:16.380 they claim to be on the side of diversity and tolerance while insisting that there's only one

01:41:22.000 acceptable point of view and you know censoring all the alternatives as misinformation so you know

01:41:28.080 these this this hard progressive left is completely hypocritical um i don't think most people support

01:41:34.880 it but they're kind of running unopposed right now because people are so afraid to speak out david thank

01:41:39.940 you for speaking out thank you for being on the program um i hope uh i hope we can have you on again

01:41:45.420 god bless you and and all the things that you're doing right now david sachs founding ceo of paypal

01:41:51.840 founder and general partner of craft ventures if you see what he has invested in uh he is on the

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01:46:58.580 kind of taken a personal interest in shepherding because she is really quite brilliant uh and um

01:47:05.600 just rock solid and she's 25 25 25 yeah that doesn't happen anyway um she unbeknownst to me

01:47:13.300 has been taking my advice and when i say go do these things uh and uh and she's tried to do them

01:47:21.440 and come up with a a few roadblocks so she wrote uh advice for dummies by a 25 year old who wanted to

01:47:29.160 follow glenn's advice but didn't know how uh she's here to kind of walk us through some of these

01:47:35.000 things yeah so i think i wrote this because i am perhaps for all of your great reset advice i am

01:47:44.340 perhaps the worst person to take most of it because most of it's financial and that's what confuses me

01:47:48.560 the most so i wanted to see if i can do it probably anyone can do it if you can put your mind to it and

01:47:55.160 i glenn i sit and listen to you and i try to take your advice because i want to make things better

01:48:01.860 i want to do the right thing but then there are so many things to do i find myself doing nothing

01:48:06.660 so i thought let me chip away at these things one at a time and see what can i do so the first thing

01:48:12.840 you did was first thing i did was switch to a local bank which we talked about last week but the

01:48:16.940 real first thing i had to do glenn is find out why i wanted to do any of this because glenn

01:48:21.160 back told me to wasn't sustainable good for you i had to figure out why do i personally want to do

01:48:26.200 this and that took me a while and i had to write it out for myself and say what is my motivation

01:48:29.700 because if not i'm going to hit walls and glenn beck isn't going to be talking to me constantly

01:48:33.980 and i had to know what do i want for my life so what was your why for getting and changing banks

01:48:39.040 for changing banks my why is when i saw what happened in canada i was finally that pushed me

01:48:45.560 over the edge i thought oh it's it could really happen they they froze their banks and then i looked

01:48:49.520 into wells fargo whose i was banking with i've been banked that was my only bank i've ever had

01:48:55.060 as well as fargo and i can bank really easily online with them and it's it's easy right i looked

01:48:59.100 at wells fargo and i googled wells fargo world economic forum whoa googled wells fargo esg whoa

01:49:06.220 yeah and they have it's full of even they say they want to have a net zero by 2030 right that's not

01:49:13.900 possible i know that's not possible which means i know that they're just towing a global line

01:49:17.620 that this is all virtue signaling and i don't want my money with those people so i had to switch

01:49:21.460 so how did you uh how did you find that uh that job that task how did i find that task yeah i found

01:49:32.000 that task to be simpler than the other tasks it was about the simplest task for me once i knew what

01:49:38.120 to look for i had to call the banks i talked about this last week that i had to call the banks and say

01:49:41.500 do you have a connection to a bigger bank do you have a connection to esg scores and that would take

01:49:46.600 some time but once i got through they were honest with me and i was able to find out bank by bank by

01:49:53.260 bank who can i actually bank with and i was lucky i found a couple that i can actually bank with so

01:49:57.740 you've put in your list talk with your family why because i have a husband and i i knew that if we

01:50:05.620 didn't want to do this together it wouldn't be sustainable good for you and i i think that there's

01:50:10.200 a lot of temptation when you feel i feel that i'm the information carrier of our family because i work

01:50:15.180 here and i listen to you every day and i feel that i am the glenn beck of my home they're bringing the

01:50:19.800 alarm the sounding the alarm i feel bad for everyone you're the insane person in your home

01:50:24.400 well and i think a lot of people listening probably are the glenn becks of their home and that that

01:50:29.400 might feel kind of isolating and it's good to have a team you want people who are all working together

01:50:33.360 if you go if you want to go fast go alone if you want to go far go together and i want to go far

01:50:38.600 not fast did you um did he agree with you right off the bat or did he was he like normal people

01:50:45.000 that's crazy well he didn't ever call me crazy he's very nice to me right did he ever say well

01:50:52.880 bless your heart yeah he definitely said prove it and that was useful good he said prove it he's like

01:50:58.700 what what's the real threat here i don't understand everything seems fine it looks fine show me and i had

01:51:03.880 to show him i couldn't just tell him the world's falling apart i'd say look here's the research i've

01:51:08.300 done it i printed it out i highlighted it and he wanted to know it for himself and once he did he

01:51:12.800 was on board and he's easier like i said great husband love him but so what was the next thing

01:51:19.340 you did calling my legislators and that was hard because well i used to be a secretary for a

01:51:24.800 legislator so i know that most of those calls get ignored so when i hear you say call your

01:51:29.840 legislator i know there's specific things you have to do when you go to call your legislator for

01:51:33.600 example i live in texas now and i went to see what is i wanted to talk about anti-esg legislation

01:51:40.260 for example i wanted texas to pass that first thing i had to do was look up what they have

01:51:44.760 because if you call and you don't know your information that's the first way to get ignored

01:51:47.640 so if you call and you're like hey um i want to know i want you to pass a anti-esg law well texas

01:51:53.440 could turn around and say we already passed one but they didn't really they passed one that just

01:51:57.100 protects certain industries yeah right but if you don't know that then you just say oh thanks

01:52:01.480 bye but you have to know so i called and they say hi i saw that in the past you have passed

01:52:08.100 an anti-esg legislation that only covered certain industries i'm interested in covering me and a

01:52:14.260 normal citizen what is the legislator going to do to support that and the thing that i also know is

01:52:21.340 you can't just call the one that you are zoned for you have to call the one who will be most

01:52:25.700 sympathetic to your cause and the one you are zoned for because if the one you are zoned for

01:52:30.400 is not going to there i know they will ignore your call they will ignore your call they will

01:52:36.920 ignore your email the best thing to do is either blitz them so they can't ignore it which i think

01:52:41.080 that the glenn beck listeners do very well is a blitz but if not you need to call the person you

01:52:45.920 think will be sympathetic to you how do you find that person well i was looking at all the local

01:52:50.720 legislators and i found somebody who was called like the the actionable conservative voice and i

01:52:56.560 thought okay we'll start here and you can see their voting you can see how they voted in the

01:53:00.280 past you can see what they run on at minimum doesn't mean that they will necessarily be who

01:53:03.780 they say they are but if they say i'm a far left leaning socialist probably calling them about

01:53:11.000 anti-esg will be a waste of your time yes yes got it got it um and you have the steps on and we

01:53:18.540 have this up is this up on glennbeck.com it is it's up on glennbeck.com okay so we have the script

01:53:22.520 and everything you need to know everything that she's learned in doing this uh we have it all at

01:53:27.380 glennbeck.com it is glennbeck's advice for dummies which i don't really like that but uh glennbeck's

01:53:34.320 advice for dummies uh on on how to do all of the things uh that we we talked to you about investments

01:53:40.940 you write as a young person i invested just in time for glenn's glenn to say it's time to divest

01:53:47.280 that is trouble here's my advice i believe i wrote that put me in a pickle yeah you did but

01:53:53.300 well i said my first time i met with my investor they said hello what are your goals i said i would

01:53:58.120 like to make money they said great how much i said as much as possible and they sent me on my way

01:54:03.180 and that was it right and now suddenly i come back to my invest my advisor and i say actually i have

01:54:09.320 a lot of moral stances now about my investments and this is coming out of left field because first i

01:54:13.660 just said as much money as you can possibly make me let's go and all my investments were black rock

01:54:17.940 and i had were they no idea i i first thing i had to do is say i wonder what i'm investing in anyway

01:54:23.320 because i just had one of those general things for young people that's kind of risky and i was like

01:54:27.180 can i have a copy of that and they're like sure they send it to me in the mail literally 75 say black

01:54:32.820 rock on it i go into sheer panic i'm like oh my gosh it's my fault i'm ruining the world it's me

01:54:37.820 it's my money i am the problem and i don't want to be that and i think a lot of people probably feel

01:54:42.580 the pressure to try to be part of the solution not part of the problem so i worked with my investor

01:54:45.840 and said look i don't know if i can know every single 30 different company in my portfolio all

01:54:51.960 their specific views but can we work together to know who i definitely don't want to invest in

01:54:55.900 that's where i started because picking individually every single company is almost it's not impossible

01:55:02.100 somebody out there's like it's not impossible i just did it and i think that's great but i started

01:55:05.680 with look i know i don't want to be in black rock let's start there let's pull out a black rock and

01:55:09.440 then they'll send me they'll say how about this one and i'll look it up and i'll be like okay

01:55:12.560 yay or nay and it's hard to be a purist it's hard to be perfect but we can't let wanting to be perfect

01:55:18.500 stop us from doing anything i will tell you just getting out of black rock is is huge they are using

01:55:24.000 our money to destroy us yeah uh and bring esg and that is a that's a really good first step is just

01:55:33.040 taking all your money out of black rock and every state should be doing that divest from black rock

01:55:38.860 as state any retirement fund any investment fund get out of black rock that will go a great

01:55:46.440 a long long way and you have to celebrate the baby steps otherwise it's easy to lose hope or lose

01:55:52.520 motivation so i feel that i was like okay i can't do everything and i could beat myself over the head

01:55:58.240 and be like but still your money's probably going somewhere bad like bad michaela that is not right

01:56:02.180 or i could say nice work michaela today you made a step you did something right and we have to

01:56:08.120 congratulate ourselves on these steps because those are not easy things to do and if we're constantly

01:56:12.500 looking at everything like there's so much more i could do that's true but we will lose our motivation

01:56:16.760 and we will lose our hope if we don't congratulate ourselves when we take these steps michaela thank you

01:56:20.980 so much for your work and you can find this all at glennbeck.com i will tell you that um uh we have

01:56:27.780 to start thinking um about each other as well i talked about this yesterday somewhat um we we need

01:56:35.940 to start talking about and thinking about others how can we help others because there's going to be a lot

01:56:43.540 of people that um are are way out of the loop on this and we can't just ignore them we have to bind

01:56:52.480 ourselves as communities and and help people that will come into our communities and need help when

01:56:58.780 things get really bad you need to be at a place where your community thinks like that and thinks like

01:57:05.300 you don't be the odd person out on this um get to those communities start thinking like a community

01:57:11.740 on on how you can and how you can help and as michaela just said you know you got to celebrate

01:57:17.780 the baby steps and they're not baby steps they're just do the next right thing that's all you have to

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01:58:46.420 the glenn back program

01:58:50.820 welcome to the glenn back program we're talking about how to do all these things and it's very

01:59:15.260 difficult to do all these things there's a million different steps and it and it's difficult to get

01:59:20.280 down that road one of the we've talked about atomic habits before mainly because it was um beating you

01:59:26.120 in the bestseller list and i was torturing you about it but it's a fantastic book and and the way

01:59:32.040 one of the things one of the big innovations i think in it when you're thinking about habits and

01:59:36.600 this goes from everything from the way you eat to the you know whether you're going to go to the gym or

01:59:40.440 whatever is changing your approach to your habits in your life from a goal-based habit to a an identity

01:59:49.860 based so in other words a goal base would be i'm going to go to the gym every day goal base is like

01:59:55.160 i strive to get in shape i want to go to the gym every day and that's how we've always i think always

01:59:59.620 thought and his point is like you need to think of it as like i'm the type of person who goes to the

02:00:04.300 gym every day i never miss a workout i'm that guy i'm the gym rat that's me and if you think of it

02:00:09.460 that way it becomes part of your identity and your identity you're casting votes toward that

02:00:15.100 identity with every small action every day you show up you're casting a vote towards that person that

02:00:20.060 you want to be give me another example here's an example do you do i have any control over my life

02:00:26.240 at all like zero i mean i have no self-control no self-control correct the one and this and

02:00:31.200 many in this audience will know this i'm like america's own you know single conservative vegetarian

02:00:37.520 right the only habit i could tell you about that i'm actually successful with and i never mess up

02:00:43.780 is that i don't eat meat i just don't do it i've done it i can give you really don't even know why

02:00:48.560 really yeah i mean there's a long explanation but the bottom line is you know i that's who i am it's

02:00:54.420 the way i live my life i don't care if you live your life the same way but it's it's like the only

02:00:59.320 habit i can think of that i actually never mess up i do it every single day i never make a mistake

02:01:04.500 and that's because and that's because i'm a vegetarian it's like in my head part of my

02:01:09.640 identity it's who i am it's how i live life now i know uh like for you for example you are a

02:01:15.520 recovering alcoholic right that's part of your identity if someone asks you about alcohol you

02:01:20.240 don't say well i'm really trying to not drink you say no i'm sober i'm a recovering alcoholic and

02:01:26.100 it's part of your identity and you never mess up right um and it's if you think of it that way

02:01:33.060 and change the way like you're you're striving for like for example uh pushing back against uh you

02:01:39.080 know the great reset in the nesg there are things from day to day that you're not going to get there

02:01:44.560 in one day but every single time you take a small action to cast a vote toward the identity of making

02:01:52.420 sure that you're in line with your values that's a day that you're progressing towards the type of

02:01:57.320 person that you want to be not like some weird goal that eventually you'll achieve and be done

02:02:01.800 but it's an ongoing journey where you're constantly trying to make yourself into this

02:02:07.140 person that you wish to be so this is from atomic atomic habits habits which is you found really

02:02:12.520 enlightening yes i think it's it's a great book even though what you just said is i am a vegetarian

02:02:19.260 uh i am a recovering alcoholic and i've given you the i am speech a million times yeah but you're

02:02:26.500 first of all he's outselling you so uh he's obviously better we know no it is true though

02:02:33.280 if you change your thinking yeah to i am an american i am determined to be free i am free

02:02:42.400 uh you will change uh it just changes you almost fake it until you make it but it does change your

02:02:51.880 thinking and it creates what you say i am you know whatever follows i am you will be

02:02:59.240 yeah and uh it's also because you have made that speech and it's true i mean it's clearly true

02:03:05.000 there's more to it than just saying it right like one of the other you're right right right like

02:03:09.800 you don't rise to the level of your goals you fall to the level of your systems right so if you

02:03:15.160 don't have a system in place if you don't go through these things and do them if you're just

02:03:20.200 kind of depending on your willpower every day you're going to fail if you say i am rich every

02:03:24.540 day you're not going to be rich right you're not right right you you but you start thinking that way

02:03:29.800 you start moving in a different way yeah you start recognizing made under a an existing structure a

02:03:36.720 framework that helps you get through these things even on the bad days when you feel like you know

02:03:41.520 what i feel like going to the casino maybe you don't do that although that is a pathway to get rich

02:03:45.840 thank you very much for bringing something i've known my whole life and i've tried to teach you

02:03:49.800 my whole the last how many books you sell in there glenn you can't even get them in the stores

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