The Glenn Beck Program - Who's to Blame？ 'Society Is Sick' - 4⧸4⧸18

00:00:00.000 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand, love, courage, truth, Glenn Beck.

00:00:14.320 Three people were shot yesterday in an attack on YouTube headquarters in San Bruno, California.

00:00:21.000 All of the victims are still clinging to life this morning in local hospitals, but the attempted

00:00:25.860 killer is dead.

00:00:27.680 After firing at people at random, the shooter yelled, come at me or come get me.

00:00:34.980 Not long after, she turned the weapon on herself and then it was all over.

00:00:39.400 Now, before I get into specifics here, I want to point out the tribal side that is taking

00:00:44.580 place right now, the mud slinging that happened in the immediate minutes and hours after this

00:00:50.980 attack went down.

00:00:52.240 If you were on Twitter and any other social media platform yesterday, when this was happening,

00:01:00.500 you know what I'm talking about.

00:01:02.180 You could feel the tension building, not for the victims of the attack, but between the

00:01:07.600 numerous tribes awaiting, just waiting for someone to blame.

00:01:12.760 And in fact, most of them couldn't wait.

00:01:14.760 You could practically see thousands upon thousands frantically hitting refresh on their devices

00:01:20.720 or their computers, just waiting for anything that would give them the opportunity to assign

00:01:25.560 blame.

00:01:26.440 Thoughts and prayers, they're gone.

00:01:28.900 Who's to blame?

00:01:30.140 At 1.52 p.m. yesterday, one Twitter user tweeted, if this shooter at YouTube isn't a white male 0.97

00:01:39.980 with far right leanings, I'll eat my effing hat. 0.99

00:01:44.340 Get rid of effing guns. 0.84

00:01:46.280 End quote. 0.98

00:01:48.160 Well, it wasn't a white guy.

00:01:52.960 Literally minutes later, local news outlets began reporting that the attacker was, quote,

00:01:56.740 a white female. 1.00

00:01:57.720 No word on whether the Twitter user has enjoyed his hat.

00:02:04.440 The anti-white male and the anti-far right tribe quieted down a bit, but the anti-feminists

00:02:11.400 then blew their Viking horn and charged into the fight.

00:02:15.660 Here's the example from one Twitter user in the UK.

00:02:20.100 The shooter at YouTube headquarters was a woman.

00:02:23.360 I would like you to condemn this act as a female and do more to stop her fellow hate-filled 1.00

00:02:30.320 females to stop this. 1.00

00:02:33.780 Hashtag taste of your own medicine.

00:02:36.860 Keep in mind, at this point of time, there is absolutely no concrete information about

00:02:41.540 what was really happening.

00:02:43.260 Some rumors began to claim that this was a domestic situation, while others said it was

00:02:48.060 a terrorist attack.

00:02:49.080 But nobody knew anything.

00:02:51.520 That didn't stop California Republican congressmen from going on Fox Business and saying, quote,

00:02:56.380 you're going to discuss with me about sanctuary cities in the sanctuary state movement, and

00:03:01.920 it fits right into what you're talking about right now.

00:03:04.520 Would anybody be surprised?

00:03:06.060 End quote.

00:03:07.420 There wasn't even a single report that might have led anyone to believe that this was caused

00:03:11.160 by an illegal immigrant.

00:03:12.140 But the tribal warfare continued.

00:03:15.000 I could go on and on and on, because it did.

00:03:20.080 The blame assigning and the mud slinging got more and more ridiculous as the rumors began

00:03:24.980 to pile up. 0.98

00:03:25.700 What the hell is wrong with us?

00:03:29.760 Here are the facts. 0.99

00:03:31.960 The shooter was an Iranian woman.

00:03:34.240 She was irate, irate at YouTube and their new content policies.

00:03:48.600 After disappearing for two days, her father called the police to warn them that she might

00:03:54.480 be on the way to YouTube.

00:03:56.120 The police found her sleeping in her car, but then let her go.

00:04:01.740 Oh, my gosh.

00:04:07.900 So it's the Iranians. 1.00

00:04:11.080 No, no, no, no.

00:04:13.560 We better check on who's coming in here.

00:04:15.580 No, no, no.

00:04:17.240 It's actually the police fault, because the police, they were warned, and they let her go.

00:04:22.200 No, no.

00:04:26.120 I'm going to say something shocking, truly shocking, apparently, in this country, because I don't 0.61

00:04:31.720 hear anybody talking about it, and it is exactly what I have said the last 14 fricking shootings.

00:04:40.580 How do you describe this woman?

00:04:42.840 Well, I could use all kinds of labels.

00:04:45.700 Immigrant, Iranian, feminist, vegan.

00:04:52.220 She's a militant vegan.

00:04:54.640 She's an animal rights activist. 0.99

00:04:56.580 Oh, she's one of them.

00:04:58.800 She's also a bodybuilder and creator of what I believe is probably the most bizarre collection

00:05:05.140 of videos I've ever seen.

00:05:08.280 In between wild rants in Farsi, she can be seen working out, dancing, cuddling with rabbits

00:05:14.540 and chickens, and then back to random militant vegan tirades.

00:05:20.320 It's people like that.

00:05:23.420 Stu's a vegetarian. 1.00

00:05:25.560 He's probably going to kill us all. 0.96

00:05:30.400 Now, this is the only fact regarding this attack. 1.00

00:05:34.580 This woman was completely and totally nuts. 1.00

00:05:41.500 She was crazy. 1.00

00:05:43.360 Any attempt to assign a political affiliation, gender, religion, or any other label is just 0.98

00:05:50.060 playing into modern-day tribal warfare, which we are all addicted to.

00:05:55.580 This attack, like the vast majority of all others, is about mental illness.

00:06:03.180 It's not about guns.

00:06:05.160 It's about mental illness.

00:06:08.400 We have a hole in our soul as a society.

00:06:13.580 More and more people are committing suicide.

00:06:18.940 More and more people feel isolated and lost.

00:06:22.620 And then on top of that, there are just the regular run-of-the-mill lunatics.

00:06:30.300 This is about mental disorders. 0.81

00:06:34.560 Not about guns.

00:06:35.580 Not about women. 0.95

00:06:36.560 Not about left.

00:06:37.380 Not about right.

00:06:38.340 Not about YouTube. 0.96

00:06:40.640 This is about mental illness.

00:06:42.960 And these shootings are going to continue to happen until we address mental illness. 0.98

00:06:52.620 But society is sick. 0.81

00:07:00.720 It's addicted.

00:07:03.060 Social media is addicting.

00:07:08.760 It's contributing to the fracturing and the polarization of our country.

00:07:13.960 Well, that's right, Glenn Beck.

00:07:16.640 Go get Facebook.

00:07:18.260 Look, is Facebook making you do these things?

00:07:23.700 Is Facebook making you check your feed over and over and over again?

00:07:28.840 Is Twitter making people write things that they would never, ever say in real life to one another?

00:07:37.960 Nope.

00:07:40.680 We are.

00:07:42.220 All of us.

00:07:43.300 We don't take to blame for this shooting.

00:07:52.700 We take the blame and must start shouldering the blame as human beings all over the earth.

00:08:01.060 For not talking about the real issues and the real root of our problems.

00:08:07.660 Nobody wants to deal with it.

00:08:09.600 And the only ones, the only ones that want to really express something are the radicals that are only using these things for radical change.

00:08:26.480 Guys, we're better than this.

00:08:32.700 It's time that we start acting like it.

00:08:39.600 It's Wednesday, April 4th.

00:08:48.500 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:08:51.420 Hello, Stu.

00:08:53.700 Hi, Glenn.

00:08:54.820 I'm completely shocked that this would happen.

00:08:57.980 You know.

00:08:58.680 Me too.

00:08:59.040 The fact that we have a new economy that essentially rewards people who are crazier than other people.

00:09:08.520 I don't see what the negative result could be.

00:09:11.260 Especially when, you know, the plan there is to, you get people who act really insane.

00:09:16.720 You give them a really big platform to be insane on.

00:09:24.740 And then you take away their ability to earn money doing it sort of out of nowhere on an arbitrary decision.

00:09:32.760 That's not necessarily a good formula.

00:09:36.680 Of course, YouTube is not at all responsible for it.

00:09:39.200 But, you know, it's just one of those things where you're going to, you know, you're going to see some of this, I think.

00:09:46.560 You're going to see some crazy behavior out of these, you know, these types of people.

00:09:52.100 Well, remember, you've made being famous really easy.

00:09:56.040 You've made that the, that's the goal, just to be famous.

00:10:00.000 I just want a bunch of followers.

00:10:01.360 I just want a bunch of, I just.

00:10:02.840 Listen to that.

00:10:03.480 I just want a bunch of followers.

00:10:06.080 Who says that?

00:10:08.680 Jesus didn't even want a bunch of followers.

00:10:12.320 It's one of those things where it's similar to the internet itself, right?

00:10:16.180 Like they're, generally speaking, the ability for people to be able to post their own material is a very good thing.

00:10:22.820 We're going to see some weird consequences with it as we go forward, I think, though.

00:10:26.780 I mean, you can't stop everybody who's insane from doing crazy things.

00:10:32.480 And I think you're right.

00:10:33.080 The focus, when it comes to violence, should not be on, you know, weapons, which 99.99% of which are never used in any negative way, like this woman did. 0.66

00:10:48.000 But you're right.

00:10:49.020 I mean, trying to find some way to take these real outliers in our society who have obvious mental illness and trying to get them the help that can make them not turn into this person.

00:11:01.080 There's lots of mentally ill people who don't act like this.

00:11:03.380 If we could just find an algorithm.

00:11:06.260 You want to algorithm this out?

00:11:08.220 I don't know if we could just find an algorithm that could listen to us and watch us and analyze everything that we do and then just remove the people that are problems.

00:11:17.320 I don't know if that's the answer, but I mean, it's going to be the one they try.

00:11:21.580 It's going to be the one we get.

00:11:23.220 Eventually, it will be the one we get.

00:11:24.780 After guns are gone, it'll be the one we get.

00:11:27.300 Again, it's always a problem to assign actual responsibility to the reason, you know, a killer gives in one of these situations.

00:11:35.920 So caution there.

00:11:36.960 But like she's saying that basically she had made these crazy videos.

00:11:39.720 That's how she made her living. 1.00

00:11:40.720 YouTube changed its algorithm.

00:11:42.100 Stop it.

00:11:42.700 Why?

00:11:43.020 You know, but why did they?

00:11:44.700 That is their response, right?

00:11:46.360 YouTube went through and tried to say, OK, well, this material is not appropriate for, let's say, younger people.

00:11:52.160 And they age restricted her videos, tearing her videos down.

00:11:55.600 And when you live your life with the only value you can come up with is how many YouTube views you have.

00:12:01.440 And that suddenly changes with something that's out of your control.

00:12:04.800 People it's it's it's an empty, hollow life goal.

00:12:10.020 And when you live your life with nothing, when it's just no nutritional value whatsoever to your life, you know, when that little thing changes, people are going to act really strangely.

00:12:20.440 Well, it's it's interesting because Facebook has changed their algorithm.

00:12:25.880 Dennis Prager is being targeted by YouTube.

00:12:29.680 Dennis, I haven't seen Dennis with a rifle.

00:12:32.440 I haven't seen that.

00:12:34.160 You know, the press has already done a story on how the right has been damaged by Facebook's algorithm, how they have just decimated several businesses.

00:12:48.480 OK, what you just said is, you know, it's a shallow thing.

00:12:52.340 You know, if you're if you're getting your your your meaning in these clicks and these followers and everything else.

00:12:59.560 But also and I'm not talking about her at all.

00:13:01.880 Also, there's a lot of money involved.

00:13:04.100 Yeah, it's true.

00:13:04.680 There's a lot of money involved.

00:13:06.020 And there are there are people who was the the website that was doing all good news and it put all of its eggs into the Facebook basket.

00:13:16.020 And it was just all good news.

00:13:18.480 You're thinking about little things.

00:13:19.520 I think so.

00:13:20.160 And it had 10 million followers.

00:13:21.940 Yeah, something like 10 million, 10 million followers.

00:13:23.880 People were were liking that they wanted it.

00:13:27.780 It was a great service.

00:13:28.900 There was no hate.

00:13:29.640 There was nothing else.

00:13:30.480 Well, they had all of these employees, 10 million followers.

00:13:34.180 They had a bright future.

00:13:35.540 They were making money.

00:13:36.480 They were serving the community.

00:13:37.880 But Facebook decided to change their algorithm and they went out of business in a month.

00:13:43.660 They had to fire everybody.

00:13:45.080 I mean, you know, instability, we're going to have to get used to because things are going to change all the time.

00:13:55.600 Now, the only thing that will be constant is change because the rate of technology changes.

00:14:02.140 The the the exponential growth of technology is going to change our lives.

00:14:08.260 And we need to mentally prepare for that and become much more agile and much more willing to adopt change because it's going to happen over and over and over and over again, because that's the way of the world.

00:14:25.920 Now, there's a healthy way to work with that.

00:14:30.480 And that is to openly talk about it, to talk about the fact that that Bain Capital said we're going to have an unemployment rate of 25, a permanent unemployment rate of 25 percent by 2030.

00:14:46.580 As it's a that's 11 and a half years from now, that's no time.

00:14:50.600 That time will go that fast.

00:14:52.900 A 25 percent unemployment rate.

00:14:55.740 And by the way, that doesn't happen in 2030, all of a sudden 2030.

00:15:00.560 OK, everybody, you're unemployed.

00:15:02.920 That's going to start creeping up now.

00:15:05.180 It already is.

00:15:07.120 People are going to get more and more frustrated, more and more desperate.

00:15:11.260 So what are we doing?

00:15:13.400 Taking their guns away?

00:15:17.780 Making them feel less powerful.

00:15:20.600 Listen to the interview with the guy who was there at at YouTube and they were interviewing him right after the shooter, asking him, what what what what were you thinking?

00:15:35.020 Listen, what's going through your mind with I mean, people dropping, being shot multiple times, bullets whizzing, people bleeding.

00:15:41.980 What's going through your mind?

00:15:43.020 Well, Leslie was on my mind, but at the same time, I knew, you know, I had to be smart.

00:15:50.440 You know, you got to be smart.

00:15:51.980 You got to be fast.

00:15:52.660 You got to think fast, good, smart.

00:15:54.000 I didn't have a gun on me, but wish I did.

00:15:57.000 That's a California citizen.

00:15:59.640 Looks like an older Asian guy.

00:16:01.880 California citizen.

00:16:04.420 Wish I had a gun.

00:16:07.300 We have to empower people.

00:16:10.080 We have to let them know that they matter.

00:16:13.020 And most importantly, the lesson we can learn, we have to talk about what's driving this.

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00:18:15.160 Glenn Beck Mercury.

00:18:45.160 Glenn Beck.

00:18:48.020 Wow.

00:18:48.860 Stu's upset about something today that I've been talking about for days and he's like, no, I don't think that's that important.

00:18:55.220 You cannot give me that.

00:18:56.860 No, I'm not going to accept that from you.

00:18:59.320 I'm not going to accept that from you.

00:19:01.640 You know, we're talking about the trade thing going on.

00:19:03.820 And as you know, this is a long time, a long time issue for me.

00:19:08.620 Yes.

00:19:08.960 I may get a little too fired up over free trade.

00:19:12.140 Yes. 0.97

00:19:12.420 Maybe that makes me a loser. 0.86

00:19:14.700 I've been told that before in the past. 0.98

00:19:16.420 That could make you a libertarian. 1.00

00:19:17.760 Or potentially, as I said, a loser. 0.99

00:19:20.920 But it's, you know, it's biting us again. 0.62

00:19:25.300 We keep firing up this very easily winnable trade war that we've been told about so much.

00:19:30.920 And now the Dow is down, looks like, another 500 points.

00:19:34.380 And, you know, this is down thousands.

00:19:38.740 And you can't be mad at the president for this.

00:19:41.720 This is literally what he ran on.

00:19:43.580 It's absolutely his most consistent viewpoint in his entire life.

00:19:47.140 It is.

00:19:47.560 Which is, he really believes in protectionist trade policy.

00:19:51.840 Occasionally, he'll give, you know, lip service to the opposite.

00:19:56.180 But, I mean, you know, he's been really consistent on this to his, I guess, credit.

00:19:59.480 I mean, I completely disagree with the policy, but he believes this.

00:20:03.220 Yeah, he believes this.

00:20:04.140 And here's the, I mean, here's the thing.

00:20:06.360 Mr. President, please.

00:20:08.040 If you, if the economy falls apart, you're in real trouble.

00:20:14.160 And the Democrats will sweep, just sweep in the midterms.

00:20:19.280 Please, the economy, it is all about the economy.

00:20:23.280 Please listen to Kudlow and other, I mean, you know, the others that are around you, please listen to them.

00:20:30.340 This is very dangerous.

00:20:32.000 And we can't take an unstable economy or economy that is going in the wrong direction.

00:20:39.100 Glenn, back, Mercury.

00:20:44.160 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:21:03.140 Dow is currently down about 500 points.

00:21:05.200 We have, we have military headed towards the border because of a, a caravan that we really need to discuss here in a second.

00:21:15.260 And Will is on the phone with us.

00:21:18.200 Hello, Will.

00:21:18.660 How are you?

00:21:20.160 Hey, hey, Mr. Beck.

00:21:21.780 It's an absolute honor to talk to you.

00:21:23.740 Thank you, sir.

00:21:24.260 I guess my point, you actually hit it, the nail right on the head with, it's a mental issue as far as all the gun violence that we have.

00:21:35.140 But we have to figure out a way to do it in a legal way to where it's fair to everyone to get these, these mentally ill people in the next system to where they cannot purchase a gun anymore. 0.79

00:21:50.680 And what I would like to propose is we treat it just like a trial.

00:21:55.080 So let's say that someone wanted to say that I'm mentally unfit to own a gun.

00:22:02.600 Well, I think that they should take that to the state.

00:22:05.380 And I think the state should have a trial against me where the evidence is presented.

00:22:11.540 And then I could have a jury of 12 of my peers where I live decide on the facts where I'm able to defend myself, whether or not that that's the case.

00:22:25.180 Yeah, if you could have a jury of your peers, I would I would tend to agree with you because we've seen, you know, children and family services, how that operates.

00:22:37.300 I mean, look how they were look how they were signing guardians in where was that Arizona or Nevada where they were signing guardians.

00:22:44.820 And these guardians were coming in and saying, hey, these people are unfit, putting them in into institutions and then drugging them and killing them all for their money.

00:22:53.980 And it looks like the courts were somewhat involved in that.

00:22:57.600 So, you know, I'm I am with you, Will, that we have to be very careful on how this is is happening.

00:23:05.020 You know, but if the state starts to say, hey, you know, you're mentally ill and we're going to take away your guns, you know, there's a and you're going to go to trial for it.

00:23:17.040 How are the how is the average person going to be able to afford it?

00:23:19.520 And how is the court system going to be able to handle that?

00:23:23.520 Well, that's a very good point.

00:23:25.780 That is an absolute very good point.

00:23:27.460 But at least in that case, he could, you know, he or she could have a public defender and would at least be able to argue the facts, you know, and then to even take that a little step further.

00:23:39.860 What's more dangerous, Glenn?

00:23:42.060 A gun or a vote?

00:23:44.140 So when you're when you're starting to talk about taking away people's rights, you know, when you have a trial by jury, let's say in a felony case, would you take away their voting rights, too, as well as their gun rights?

00:23:55.700 So, I mean, that's another question that has to be asked.

00:23:59.520 And in my opinion, a vote is so much more dangerous than a gun.

00:24:03.480 I know that probably people don't want to hear that, but it's the truth. 0.84

00:24:07.220 Yeah.

00:24:07.820 Well, thank you very much.

00:24:09.140 I appreciate it.

00:24:09.920 You know, we we do have to have this conversation, but we had conversation yesterday about the new patents that Apple.

00:24:17.100 I'm sorry, that Amazon and Google have just put through to where they can listen in your house and detect the mood of the house.

00:24:25.780 They can detect whether you are angry or depressed just by listening to the voice.

00:24:31.960 Well, what what happens?

00:24:34.400 I mean, one way to solve this easily is, well, we were listening.

00:24:38.460 It looks like there's domestic problems in this house.

00:24:40.460 Looks like this person is depressed.

00:24:41.840 So we got to take the guns away.

00:24:45.340 You know, this woman at YouTube yesterday, her father called and said, I think she's a danger to herself. 0.90

00:24:53.480 She may be dangerous to people at YouTube. 0.99

00:24:55.740 She is maybe on her way to YouTube.

00:24:58.820 I haven't found her.

00:25:00.120 They found her in the car.

00:25:02.320 Police talked to her and let her go. 0.97

00:25:04.380 She went to YouTube and kills people. 1.00

00:25:07.480 OK, so what do we do?

00:25:09.580 Police didn't have the right to pick her up or did they? 0.81

00:25:15.380 Should we have a system that when you when somebody calls and says and they are verified family member, hey, I'm concerned about this person.

00:25:27.460 Do they have a right to go and make sure that you are taken care of, that the guns are you don't have access to any guns?

00:25:35.080 Yeah, I mean, obviously, there are systems in which, you know, you can you can restrict you can you know, if you're a loved one, you think your loved one's going off the rails.

00:25:43.700 There are things you can you can do.

00:25:45.660 I mean, the idea that you're going to stop them from purchasing a gun is a small piece of this.

00:25:50.680 Right.

00:25:50.880 We act as if this is some solution.

00:25:52.580 I mean, if you can't buy a gun from you just like you can't buy cocaine.

00:25:57.760 Do people solve that issue?

00:25:59.140 They still they seem to be OK at doing that.

00:26:01.260 They figure out their ways to get what they need, you know, and and if even if they can't get that, they can get lots of legal things that can also kill you like cars and like knives and all of these other.

00:26:12.040 You know, there's a there's a larger issue here.

00:26:14.700 And I think in a sane world, if there is a sane common sense parallel universe that we all lived in, in which, you know, people understood like they were honest and and there were there are ways to handle these things with common sense and people had common sense.

00:26:29.420 Maybe there's a solution here.

00:26:31.200 But, man, I'm very nervous at how they would apply these things because I think people do have common sense.

00:26:36.240 They're just denying it.

00:26:38.420 I think we are living in this postmodern world where there is no absolute truth.

00:26:43.340 And so they deny it because it's easier for them to deny it.

00:26:47.100 It makes their life easier.

00:26:48.820 It's easy for us, though, to say that there's this like mental health line that is recognizable.

00:26:54.320 No, it's not. 0.80

00:26:55.180 I mean, like this person, I think we all can look at this now, the YouTube shooter from yesterday and say, OK, it seems like they were pretty mentally ill. 0.87

00:27:03.300 I mean, look at the videos. 0.99

00:27:04.440 She looks crazy. 0.98

00:27:05.140 You know, her actions seem nutty. 0.93

00:27:08.100 But as you point out, a police officer actually engaged with this person hours before and was not able to recognize it, did not think that there was something that was a huge threat there.

00:27:19.300 Because you know what?

00:27:20.460 If you've ever dealt with someone with mental illness, it's not like every conversation you have with them, they're flailing their arms around and making crazy noises.

00:27:28.140 Like people are completely capable of having completely normal conversations with you when they're mentally ill at times.

00:27:34.000 You can't.

00:27:35.920 These are very difficult things to manage.

00:27:38.220 And I think there's a there's a there's a there's a systemic issue that's that's something that over a very long period of time with maybe a return to some basic principles that we used to all kind of agree on that can be solved.

00:27:52.660 But it's not a short term thing, I think, where we can be like, oh, well, let's pass this law or, you know, what did the David Hoggs of the world would say?

00:27:59.840 Oh, well, let's, you know, ban future purchases of AR-15s.

00:28:03.260 Oh, it does nothing to this.

00:28:05.000 It wasn't an AR-15, was it?

00:28:06.440 Wasn't an AR-15.

00:28:07.460 It, you know, the gun was already in the system.

00:28:11.960 So it wouldn't any future purchase wouldn't be restricted.

00:28:15.040 You could say, oh, I want to stop people from buying guns if they have if mental illness.

00:28:19.160 Let's just say this person was specifically identified as having mental illness.

00:28:23.640 Still, it wouldn't have stopped this.

00:28:25.080 They would have been able to go get something else.

00:28:26.900 They would have been able to go get a gun from somewhere else.

00:28:30.160 I mean, that is what happens here.

00:28:31.980 Let me go to Dan in Georgia.

00:28:33.520 Hello, Dan.

00:28:34.000 Hey, Glenn.

00:28:36.360 Hey, boys.

00:28:36.860 Hey, I want to talk to you real quick about the YouTube creator policy.

00:28:41.200 I'm a creator.

00:28:42.660 And, you know, for her to have lost her monetization, she had to have under 4,000 minutes a month of view time for under 1,000 subscribers.

00:28:52.660 And so based on those numbers, she wasn't even making $5 a month. 0.90

00:28:56.460 So it wasn't that she lost her income.

00:28:58.700 It wasn't that she snapped because of a YouTube policy.

00:29:01.740 So I just want to make sure that the air is clear on that.

00:29:04.600 Well, you have.

00:29:05.860 Hang on just a second. 0.99

00:29:06.720 I want to make sure that you understand she's nuts. 1.00

00:29:09.560 My view on this is she's nuts and there's nothing else to this story other than she's nuts. 0.99

00:29:15.040 With that being said, you know, we are in this. 0.99

00:29:18.940 We're in this place now where everybody can make money and everybody can be a star.

00:29:24.480 Some people are doing it in reasonable ways.

00:29:26.520 Some people are not.

00:29:27.460 And when you put stardom next to crazy, it's very easy for somebody to say, well, you know what?

00:29:36.320 The reason why I'm not getting views, I'm not getting views because it's not crazy if they really are after you.

00:29:42.760 And they're after me.

00:29:43.900 They're trying to silence me.

00:29:45.520 They've changed their algorithm.

00:29:47.100 Otherwise, because this is genius.

00:29:49.100 No, it's not.

00:29:49.880 No, it's not. 1.00

00:29:50.320 You're nuts. 1.00

00:29:51.740 Yeah, absolutely. 1.00

00:29:53.500 She's nuts. 1.00

00:29:54.140 She didn't snap because of income. 1.00

00:29:56.140 She's nuts. 0.98

00:29:57.040 I will say, though, and you know this probably better than I am as a creationist with YouTube, 0.92

00:30:02.560 that they also restrict videos for content reasons, right?

00:30:07.580 Like if you say, if you do something that's not friendly for children, it's not just numbers.

00:30:12.280 It's also, yeah.

00:30:13.760 So it could have been.

00:30:14.760 Their new policy is you'll get a yellow monetization symbol, meaning it's not suitable for all advertisers.

00:30:22.020 That does not mean that you're not getting monetized.

00:30:24.960 It basically means you're not getting premium monetization or you're not getting, you know,

00:30:30.120 Glenn Beck might say, well, hey, I don't want to advertise the blaze on anything that has to do with Nazi talk.

00:30:36.580 So if there's Nazi talk or anything like that in my videos, then Google will say, well,

00:30:41.640 we're not going to put Glenn Beck there, and they're going to let me know that, hey,

00:30:44.240 your video might be offensive to some advertisers, so it may or may not be monetized.

00:30:50.260 It just makes it harder for me to make the money, but it's not controllable at my level.

00:30:55.760 Now, they will demonetize immediately if it's extremely offensive, if it's pornographic, if it's, I mean, you know,

00:31:04.200 and you will know that as well.

00:31:06.420 That video will become demonetized, but not your entire channel.

00:31:10.320 And you can fix it by removing the copyrighted material.

00:31:14.300 You know, there's ways that you can fix it.

00:31:16.360 But, yeah, they do definitely, they watch what goes up there.

00:31:20.000 And I'm not going to get into, like, politics about it, because, I mean, I'm not riding that bus yet that it's a conspiracy.

00:31:29.540 Dan, thank you very much.

00:31:31.040 I appreciate your call, Bill in Tennessee.

00:31:33.000 Go ahead.

00:31:33.520 Yeah, Glenn, first, I agree. 1.00

00:31:37.560 She's nuts. 0.96

00:31:38.720 That said, I think we better watch out that the left doesn't argue that she was a constitutionalist 0.99

00:31:45.840 because she was defending her First Amendment rights with her Second Amendment rights.

00:31:50.680 As crazy as that sounds, you know as well as I do that if we start seeing a rise in violence by anybody who claims they're protecting their rights,

00:32:03.840 it's going to start on the fringe, and as we see the restrictions and the changes in algorithms by what really amount to public utilities when you get down to it,

00:32:16.060 you're going to see a rising level of violence, not motivated by anything but changes in the computerized world we're in.

00:32:24.680 So are you, wait, wait, wait, are you calling YouTube and Facebook, are you calling for them to be made utilities?

00:32:30.900 I think we should look at that, especially when you cite the example of that company that hired all those employees that was putting out nothing but good news.

00:32:41.220 They had a certain right to rely on the situation remaining as it did, or at least have a say in the change which occurred.

00:32:52.040 They did not, and their whole business was shut down in a matter of, as you said, a month.

00:32:57.180 And why? Because of a change in an algorithm?

00:33:01.560 Right, but it's their own private business.

00:33:03.320 It's their own private business that they give away for free, by the way.

00:33:06.980 I think there's a, there will, I think, I do think Facebook and others will get sued by a lot of these companies

00:33:13.460 because of the fact that a lot of them paid them money for advertising to get these followers

00:33:18.940 and then are no longer being given access to them.

00:33:21.180 And so, and while I guarantee that contract you sign with Facebook and when you click accept is airtight,

00:33:28.160 as far as this goes, because they can say, we can switch it whenever they want.

00:33:32.860 I will be surprised if someone doesn't dig up an email from a Facebook employee that says,

00:33:37.820 ah, you know, they're not going to change it that drastically, and they're going to have problems with it.

00:33:41.920 And here's the problem with making these things utilities.

00:33:44.180 You make them utilities, then the federal government has control, then they become cable,

00:33:50.640 then the big institutions get to go and lobby, and they have all of their special interests

00:33:56.780 that control Facebook and YouTube.

00:34:01.080 Facebook and YouTube, unless the government controls the rest of the internet,

00:34:07.020 the minute they're brought into the fold of the government, everyone will flee

00:34:11.100 because somebody else will say, well, I can fix this problem better than the government,

00:34:14.320 and they're going to limit your speech, and they're just in, you know, government stooges,

00:34:19.040 or whatever it is.

00:34:21.240 They don't have a, the government cannot have a monopoly on the internet.

00:34:25.660 And if they make those utilities, then what happens?

00:34:30.620 Yeah.

00:34:31.040 Somebody else is going to come up and make something better,

00:34:33.780 and it'll put them out of business, which is the way it should work in the first place.

00:34:38.640 And I have to tell you, I think that's beginning to, the possibility exists that Facebook has done

00:34:47.180 so much damage that eventually they do go the way of MySpace.

00:34:56.660 All right.

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00:35:05.500 I don't even know how many times you're supposed to change them.

00:35:07.980 You know, you go into Home Depot, and you're like, I need that.

00:35:11.280 And then, you know, I've only pulled it out because something has gone wrong.

00:35:15.320 And I pull it out, and I'm like, holy cow, honey, how come we haven't been changing the air filter?

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00:36:45.640 Glenn Beck Mercury.

00:36:47.980 Glenn Beck.

00:37:10.080 All right, a couple of things we have to take care of.

00:37:12.020 First of all, the Christian culture that we have, Christian privilege, is everywhere.

00:37:20.440 We're going to talk about that coming up in a few minutes.

00:37:22.440 Stu has been complaining the last few days that he's hungry, and I know he likes things that are healthy.

00:37:27.760 The last few days, the last few thousand days.

00:37:30.540 So I got you some crickets.

00:37:33.080 Oh, God.

00:37:34.540 Okay.

00:37:35.460 Oh, my God.

00:37:36.040 And then I got you...

00:37:38.040 Salt and vinegar crickets.

00:37:39.000 Larvettes.

00:37:39.940 Oh, my God.

00:37:40.700 So that's salt and vinegar.

00:37:43.520 This is bacon and cheese.

00:37:45.600 Somebody's got to try them.

00:37:46.380 Even my 10-year-old or my 13-year-old son wouldn't try these.

00:37:49.200 They're actual crickets and larvae.

00:37:52.100 I mean, it's like...

00:37:54.020 I got them at a store.

00:37:55.120 I walked into a store, and I'm like, who's buying these?

00:37:57.740 I love it on the bottom.

00:37:58.400 It says, Best Buy, March 5th, 2020.

00:38:01.840 So you just got to make sure you eat these crickets before 2020.

00:38:09.280 Glenn Beck.

00:38:10.700 Mercury.

00:38:28.600 As you know, one of my heroes is George Washington.

00:38:35.740 And I have to say that this is probably the greatest day since he passed away.

00:38:41.820 I mean, he's looking down on us today and going, thank you.

00:38:44.600 Thank you for somebody.

00:38:45.420 Somebody finally did it.

00:38:46.820 George Washington University, in our nation's capital, has been molding minds now for almost two centuries.

00:38:52.680 And it's, of course, one of the most prestigious and highest-ranked institutions in America.

00:38:58.180 And every student, though, that has graced the hallowed halls of GW have come away with a great education.

00:39:05.120 Or so we thought.

00:39:05.860 So we thought.

00:39:06.940 Until now.

00:39:07.580 They had a deficiency in their expensive education.

00:39:11.580 And finally, one brave professor at GW is stepping up to do something about this deficiency.

00:39:19.440 He's tackling one of the most troubling problems of our time, and one that really none of us have the courage to talk about.

00:39:25.920 He is leading a life-changing seminar on, quote, Christian privilege in America.

00:39:32.420 There.

00:39:32.800 I said it.

00:39:33.740 Okay.

00:39:34.800 Finally, it's out.

00:39:36.000 Christian privilege. 0.76

00:39:37.700 It's been the non-GOP elephant in the room since America's founding, really, that Christians get all the privileges. 0.99

00:39:45.400 Well, that and white people.

00:39:46.640 Oh, and men.

00:39:47.500 White men, Christians? 0.96

00:39:48.640 Oh, my gosh. 1.00

00:39:49.000 They're the worst.

00:39:50.640 The founders set it up that way, you know, in the Constitution.

00:39:53.700 It's in the Bill of Rights.

00:39:54.880 Look it up.

00:39:55.400 White privilege.

00:39:56.340 Male privilege.

00:39:57.440 Christian privilege. 0.76

00:39:59.000 You know, white privilege.

00:40:00.060 It's still five minutes ago.

00:40:01.540 Christian privilege is really what's keeping everybody down. 0.99

00:40:04.800 Actually, white privilege is still a thing, but that's also mentioned under the seminar's learning objectives.

00:40:13.880 But I guess white privilege kind of goes hand-in-hand with Christian privilege, doesn't it? 0.81

00:40:18.760 I'm not sure.

00:40:19.640 Tomato, tomato, who knows?

00:40:23.080 The professor is Timothy Cain, and he plans to explore how Christians in the U.S. experience life in an easier way than non-Christians. 0.93

00:40:31.720 Hmm, yeah, probably, because we're about 70%.

00:40:36.620 We claim to be about 70 or so percent Christian.

00:40:39.500 I don't know if anybody's actually living it anymore, but yeah.

00:40:42.780 I'm sure it'll include a full analysis of the way, you know, Christians, for instance, in Sutherland Springs, Texas, have experienced life in an easier way since last November.

00:40:54.640 In his seminar description, Professor Cain asks,

00:40:57.840 Even with the separation of church and state, are there places where Christians have a built-in advantage over non-Christians? 0.99

00:41:05.040 Of course.

00:41:05.880 Of course.

00:41:06.360 Absolutely.

00:41:07.160 Like magical places like California.

00:41:09.200 Because I'm sure he's going to discuss the special Christian privilege of the California cafe owners who get to play their Christian music whenever they want in their privately owned business.

00:41:18.960 Oh, no, wait.

00:41:19.460 Hold on.

00:41:20.460 Sorry, it's backward.

00:41:21.720 They don't actually get to enjoy that special privilege.

00:41:24.520 They were actually singled out because they were Christian, and they're about to be evicted from the building where they run their business and have run it for 11 years because one person complained.

00:41:36.440 If Professor Cain honestly thinks Christian privilege exists in America, much less the world, I don't think he gets outside of his bubble very often. 0.96

00:41:45.020 A more enlightening seminar might be one on the progressive university privilege to help us understand how professors like Cain continue to get paid for coming up with crap like this. 0.54

00:42:09.800 It's Wednesday, April 4th.

00:42:11.980 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:42:13.540 Our universities are becoming indoctrination camps.

00:42:17.020 That's all they are.

00:42:18.520 They're teaching your kids the things that they really need to know.

00:42:21.520 No, my kid needs to know math and science and literature.

00:42:25.000 That's what my kid needs to know.

00:42:26.480 And you're not teaching him any of that.

00:42:27.980 You're teaching him all this bullcrap of privilege.

00:42:31.300 You know what?

00:42:32.000 Here it is.

00:42:32.720 Here's the lesson everybody needs.

00:42:34.680 Life is not fair.

00:42:37.420 You may not get everything that you want.

00:42:40.960 You may not get anything that you want.

00:42:44.420 But continue to pick yourself up and keep going.

00:42:48.580 The Constitution and with Lady Justice, who is blind, is not supposed to be granting special favors for anyone, no matter their color, their creed, no matter what it is. 1.00

00:43:04.040 You break the law, you go to jail.

00:43:07.320 You succeed, good for you.

00:43:10.580 Keep going.

00:43:11.620 And now that you have more things, more stuff, we'll protect people from stealing that from you.

00:43:18.360 That's the lesson.

00:43:19.380 Now, can we get down to math and science, please?

00:43:24.900 Charles Murray is an author.

00:43:28.520 He's a scholar.

00:43:29.920 He's a brilliant political science mind from MIT, and he has his BA in history from Harvard.

00:43:37.420 He's written several books.

00:43:38.960 He's controversial because he looks at the facts and then says them no matter what people want to think.

00:43:44.740 He wrote The Bell Curve.

00:43:47.340 He wrote Losing Ground, which was credited as the reason why we had the Welfare Reform Act of 1996.

00:43:56.560 He's also written What It Means to Be a Libertarian, In Our Hands, Real Education, and then Coming Apart, which I just finished reading, and I know I'm way late on it because it came out in 2012.

00:44:07.060 But it's a fascinating look at America and how we are coming apart.

00:44:13.280 What has changed?

00:44:14.940 He also has his recent book out, By the People, Rebuilding Liberty Without Permission.

00:44:18.760 We wanted to get him on because he's a fascinating man.

00:44:22.300 We'll have you looking at things in a completely different way quickly.

00:44:25.960 Welcome to the program, Charles Murray.

00:44:28.020 Thanks, Glenn.

00:44:28.700 Glad to be here.

00:44:30.140 So, Charles, let's start with this.

00:44:32.940 Any comments on the Christian privilege thing?

00:44:35.180 Well, it's actually laughable.

00:44:41.620 I understand that it's serious and that I would be very unwilling to pay $60,000 a year to college these days like I did with my kids in earlier years because it's gotten so bad.

00:44:55.240 So, I'm not laughing because it's not a problem.

00:44:58.960 I'm laughing because it's so silly.

00:45:01.400 The privilege is the one you refer to.

00:45:07.680 If you want to talk about privilege, it is that if you go to Harvard or Princeton or Yale or a variety of other highly prestigious colleges, you get interviewed by places that aren't going to interview you for jobs.

00:45:21.100 I mean, I'm talking about Goldman Sachs and things like that.

00:45:25.320 That's privilege when you get access to that kind of job opportunity that can make you fabulously wealthy.

00:45:33.280 There are a whole variety of things that the new upper class, which is my label for this educated class, have going for them, whereby they have crafted a world that is perfectly suited to what they do best.

00:45:49.320 But that's privilege in a real, concrete, powerful sense that makes any Christian privilege trivial. 0.73

00:45:59.240 So, you know, in reading your book, it is just it's just fascinating the way you use stats and the way you view things and compare apples to apples.

00:46:09.140 But, you know, you wrote this in 2012 and it is all it's all heavy on the tree.

00:46:17.360 Now, this fruit is very ripe.

00:46:19.180 Can you can you kind of go down a little bit and explain what is happening to us right now?

00:46:26.320 Well, yeah, just so this is the Cliff Notes version of the argument.

00:46:31.280 It's real simple that you had two things happen about half a century ago in the 1950s thereafter.

00:46:38.160 And one was that you had the good schools in this country became much more willing to take kids from all over the country.

00:46:47.060 I went to Harvard in the fall of 1961 from Newton, Iowa.

00:46:52.260 I would have never thought of applying to Harvard 20 years earlier.

00:46:56.360 That was one thing that happened.

00:46:58.060 And in a sense, Glenn, that's good.

00:47:00.020 I mean, you know, kids with talent get a chance to fulfill it.

00:47:03.540 That's great.

00:47:04.120 But what that did was over time, as the decades went on, it created a kind of new culture of all these kids who are really, really smart and who who become isolated from each from the rest of the country.

00:47:20.800 I love in your book the way you describe this, that because we all went to school with a geek.

00:47:26.620 I mean, I went to went to school with a guy who was a math genius, first chair violinist.

00:47:31.760 And he had perfect pitch.

00:47:33.940 I mean, the guy was, you know, and good looking. 0.95

00:47:35.960 And I just I wanted to stone him to death. 0.84

00:47:37.960 If I would have lived in biblical days, I would have led the charge. 0.95

00:47:40.740 But, you know, I don't know what he's doing now, but he was very isolated in some ways because he was so smart.

00:47:50.240 And, you know, I always you know, when when he went off to college, I always wondered what that was like, because now he was in a group of a bunch of other really, really smart people.

00:48:01.760 And the way you describe this and what happens is fascinating.

00:48:07.100 And it's much, much different than it used to be.

00:48:09.940 You know, think about this way.

00:48:11.640 But if you're talking about, let's say, people with high IQs and let's just say that's people with IQs of 130 above, which I hasten to add, does not make them wise.

00:48:23.060 It does not make them generous.

00:48:25.640 It's not associated with any of these other virtues.

00:48:29.000 It's just they're real smart.

00:48:31.100 OK.

00:48:32.340 In 1900.

00:48:34.800 Only five or 10 percent of that really, really smart subset even went to college.

00:48:40.600 Most of the people who were super smart were working as factory workers.

00:48:44.160 About half of them were housewives and you had you had a huge mix in the country. 0.99

00:48:51.560 And what's happened now is that you have these kids who are super smart, who increasingly are going to school with each other and they're getting jobs in the same kinds of cities afterwards.

00:49:04.040 Let me give you a quick example that will give you an idea of it.

00:49:09.160 When I went to Harvard in the fall of 1961, if you walked outside Harvard Yard, you were in a sort of middle class Boston neighborhood.

00:49:19.140 You know, there are hardware stores.

00:49:20.820 There were little grocery stores.

00:49:23.400 There were – it was – this was not an elite place outside the precincts of the walls of Harvard.

00:49:29.220 You go to Cambridge, Massachusetts today and it has glossy little restaurants of every conceivable kind, all sorts of boutique shops.

00:49:39.760 It has not just one but two whole food stores within walking distance of Harvard Yard.

00:49:45.820 It is an enclave now, which is completely different from the way it used to be.

00:49:51.320 And once you're in that enclave at the age of 18 as a freshman, you're likely to stay in that enclave for the rest of your life.

00:50:00.020 And you are also likely to think this is the way real people live and you begin to look down on real people.

00:50:07.780 And I want to take that now.

00:50:09.660 You've just described the elite.

00:50:11.040 I'm going to take a break and come back.

00:50:12.700 You describe what's happened to the other half of America. 0.95

00:50:16.900 Charles Murray is the author of the book, Coming Apart, The State of White America, 1960-2010.

00:50:24.220 Fascinating book.

00:50:25.540 We'll get back to him in just a second.

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00:50:54.520 I do know this.

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00:52:18.500 Glenn Beck, Mercury.

00:52:38.960 Glenn Beck.

00:52:40.560 Charles Murray is the author of the book, Coming Apart, The State of White America, 1960-2010.

00:52:49.840 I started reading it here recently and I'm just fascinated by it because it's all starting to happen now.

00:52:56.500 And it's all being misdiagnosed.

00:52:58.640 People are saying that it's racism on the left and the right is saying that it's elitism.

00:53:04.100 But there's actual reasons for why this is coming apart and we're not addressing any of those.

00:53:10.560 So Charles just explained why the, you know, why the elites have started to pull away from the average American.

00:53:22.180 And it's because they used to go to college in their own area.

00:53:28.180 The colleges weren't elite like they are now.

00:53:31.060 And you would pretty much go home and you'd pretty much live the same kind of life as everybody else around you.

00:53:38.260 Which is not happening anymore.

00:53:39.540 Yeah, you were mixed up with all sorts of other people too because, look, here's an example.

00:53:45.700 In an elite neighborhood like the North Shore of Chicago or whatever, which used to be prestigious in 1960 the same way it is now.

00:53:54.120 But in 1960, the wealthy executives in the North Shore of Chicago were mostly married to high school graduates, you know.

00:54:04.720 And you go to those same kinds of neighborhoods today.

00:54:08.860 They haven't married the girl next door.

00:54:10.880 I'm talking about the guys now who are very successful.

00:54:13.240 They've married the graduate from Yale Law School that their company was litigating against and that fell in love with.

00:54:20.680 You've got people being reinforced in these bubbles.

00:54:25.860 Here's an example for you, Glenn.

00:54:27.420 If you live in an affluent neighborhood and you send your kids, even to the public schools, if it's in a rich neighborhood, you're probably not going to have your child meet anyone whose parents make a living with their hands.

00:54:45.340 They're not going to meet anyone who isn't real smart.

00:54:49.420 And as a result, they get to be 25, 30, 35 years old. 0.99

00:54:54.940 And they sort of assume that all these people out in flyover country are really stupid and really can't be trusted to manage their own affairs. 0.99

00:55:03.660 And it's we smart people who have to make the choices for them. 0.99

00:55:07.580 It's a very common attitude.

00:55:08.900 So tell me what's happening to the other half of America. 0.90

00:55:15.560 Well, things started to fall apart.

00:55:18.560 And now in the book, I talk exclusively about white America.

00:55:23.540 And the reason I did that, Glenn, was originally just because I didn't want people to think these problems are only in the black community, Hispanic community.

00:55:32.040 As it turned out, there were even bigger problems going on in white America than we realized. 0.74

00:55:37.740 A lot of demoralization.

00:55:40.040 That demoralization came from all sorts of things.

00:55:43.340 Part of it was the economy.

00:55:45.220 Another part of it was the ways in which white working class Americans who were applying for the police academy or for the firefighting academy found that they weren't getting in because of affirmative action,

00:55:57.900 even though they'd taken the entrance examinations very well, affirmative action was making it harder for them.

00:56:05.200 There were a variety of other things going on that undermined the role of the male as putting food on the table and a roof over the head.

00:56:17.000 And the respect he got for that, that was being undermined by feminism in large part, by the sexual revolution in another part, though, because guess what?

00:56:29.060 A lot of guys in their early 20s who were getting all the sex they wanted to without getting married didn't feel any strong urge to get married.

00:56:36.840 So marriage rates fell.

00:56:39.480 They plummeted in the white working class.

00:56:42.120 And all of these things just change the nature of life in white working class neighborhoods for the worse.

00:56:49.980 So now we have a group of people who are, you know, if you don't if you don't finish high school, you're most likely to marry somebody who didn't finish high school.

00:56:59.740 If you went to college, you're most likely to marry somebody who went to college.

00:57:04.620 So it's it's it's it's a normal, natural thing, I think.

00:57:11.480 And and I don't necessarily think that's anything nefarious.

00:57:16.420 It's just the way it has it has happened.

00:57:19.500 But it is splitting us apart.

00:57:22.380 Is there a way to put this back together?

00:57:25.940 Well, you know, I don't believe in government programs as a way to do that.

00:57:31.180 Right.

00:57:31.400 I don't think I don't think it's going to help to try to force people to have more contact with each other because you're right.

00:57:37.660 People are doing what comes naturally.

00:57:39.840 Look, when you get married, you want to marry somebody who gets your jokes.

00:57:43.740 You know, and you want to marry someone who you can talk to and so forth.

00:57:47.080 Well, that does leave people with common interests and to some degree, common abilities to marry each other.

00:57:52.460 There's nothing wrong with it.

00:57:53.460 But here's the bad part, which is that life gets really thinned out.

00:58:01.600 When you are cocooned in this elite bubble, I live in a town of 152 people, 60 miles out of D.C.

00:58:13.140 I'm talking to you right now, looking out my back window over the farmlands next door.

00:58:18.020 And we moved here in 1989 in large part because I didn't want my little children at that point to grow up only knowing the people who lived in northwest Washington.

00:58:29.980 OK, so hold on just a second, Charles, as we get to what can we do and not a government program.

00:58:36.620 And I also want to talk to him a little bit about our own responsibility when it comes to social media.

00:58:42.760 What's happening to us there when we come back.

00:58:48.420 Glenn Beck.

00:58:50.400 Mercury.

00:59:06.620 This is the Glenn Beck program talking to Charles Murray, author of many, many books.

00:59:24.700 We happen to be talking about Coming Apart, the State of White America, 1960 and 2010. 0.70

00:59:30.500 It's a must read.

00:59:31.400 It's a really great book.

00:59:32.220 But Charles, you were talking about, you know, in 1989, you move your kids to the farm so they you know, they wouldn't get caught in this trap.

00:59:41.460 I did the same thing.

00:59:42.600 We have a farm in a town of like 500 people.

00:59:45.760 And while I can't live there because I work in in the city, you know, we we spend all of our time off there.

00:59:52.600 And, you know, the kids, you know, when they're here, they're not putting their they're not putting their arm in the back of a cow.

00:59:59.380 You know what I mean?

00:59:59.840 To check if she's pregnant. 0.99

01:00:00.920 But out there she is.

01:00:03.140 And my kids and I have really learned an important lesson that the people in many ways live a better life in some ways.

01:00:14.400 You know, the back of the cow, not so much, but it's just different.

01:00:18.780 It's just different.

01:00:19.640 You know, the way the way I often put it is that life just has a lot more texture when you're engaged with people who are not all lawyers.

01:00:31.600 They're not all rich.

01:00:32.660 Yes.

01:00:33.680 You have neighbors who still help each other, who work with each other.

01:00:38.560 You have things going on that are real life in small communities when you get out of these enclaves.

01:00:45.640 And you ask for the answer.

01:00:47.760 The solution is for people who are currently living in these elite bubbles to realize life is more fun if you get out of them.

01:00:55.600 So you talk also about the the middle of America that the other half that didn't go to an elite college.

01:01:05.060 They're tending to lose some of the moral principles.

01:01:09.400 Yeah, and then the collapse of marriage is the biggest problem here, because what makes communities work, whether they're urban communities or small towns, is the married couple that are trying to create an environment for their kids that is good.

01:01:26.580 And that's why you have the little league teams that the fathers are coaching.

01:01:30.240 That's why you have people attending the PTAs.

01:01:32.840 That's why you have all sorts of these interactions.

01:01:36.100 And once marriage goes downhill, single guys don't very often coach little league teams, you know, single dads don't.

01:01:45.140 And this problem, I have no idea how you fix, except, I guess, Glenn, just as I want to say to the people in the bubbles that life is more fun outside the bubble, I want to say to people who are not getting married that a good marriage is the best thing that will ever happen to you.

01:02:05.480 And it's worth just going way out of your way to try to find that.

01:02:10.600 My daughter was going to Fordham, and she met her now husband, and she was a junior, I think, maybe a sophomore.

01:02:19.920 And she said to me, you know, she was talking to me about him, and I really liked him.

01:02:24.280 And I said, so is he the one?

01:02:26.220 She said, yeah, he's the one.

01:02:27.380 I said, so when are you guys getting married?

01:02:28.700 And she said, well, not until after we get out of marriage, not until we get out of college.

01:02:32.580 And then we'll, you know, settle down.

01:02:34.380 And I said, what?

01:02:36.300 And she said, Dad, you know, it's just that people don't do that anymore.

01:02:40.040 You know, the world just frowns on you.

01:02:42.060 And I said, wow, I didn't think that my child would care about appearances.

01:02:47.240 I said, you, when you find the right person, spend every second with them in marriage.

01:02:54.400 It changes everything.

01:02:55.580 And they are happily married now, and she got married almost right away.

01:02:59.660 But her professors looked at her when she said, I'm not going to be here.

01:03:04.080 I'm going to, you know, I'm getting married.

01:03:05.920 They all looked at her like, what is wrong with you?

01:03:09.940 Yeah.

01:03:10.560 And an awful lot of that is exaggerated, too, once you get into the elite school.

01:03:16.000 So even to get married in your 20s is considered too young.

01:03:21.380 And you don't get married until you're 32, 33.

01:03:24.860 You're already making a quarter million dollars a year.

01:03:28.800 And, you know, that kind of approach to life, I think, is missing the point in lots of important things.

01:03:37.680 One of the really interesting points you make, we're talking to Charles Murray, by the way, author of the book Coming Apart.

01:03:42.940 One of the really interesting points you make in the book is how sort of the great society welfare programs of the 60s

01:03:47.960 led to sort of a degradation of the four pillars of American exceptionalism.

01:03:58.680 You just talked about marriage, the others being religiosity, industriousness, and honesty.

01:04:03.800 Can you talk about the relationship between those programs and the changes in our attitude of those main points of American exceptionalism?

01:04:10.600 Yeah, they're pretty simple in all sorts of ways during the 1960s when you greatly expanded the scope of things that government did for single women, for example.

01:04:23.000 It made it economically a lot more feasible to have a baby without a husband than it used to be.

01:04:30.780 I'm not saying it was easy.

01:04:31.900 I'm not saying that they were, you know, getting rich from having babies on welfare.

01:04:35.800 No.

01:04:36.000 But it became possible in a way that had not been possible.

01:04:40.100 Well, guess what?

01:04:40.960 When it becomes easier economically, then more women start to have babies in those circumstances, and then the stigma starts to erode. 0.99

01:04:49.340 Because when you've got one girl in the high school class who's pregnant, that's kind of a tough position to be in.

01:04:56.540 When you've got six, seven, eight, or nine, when you start to have a daycare center for the babies, you've got a problem in terms of the stigma.

01:05:03.140 So the stigma goes away.

01:05:04.780 That was the one thing.

01:05:06.000 The whole problem with crime, the 1960s, when crime started to shoot up and continued to shoot up for the next three decades because of changes in the criminal justice system, whereby the old, rather simple formula, you commit a serious crime, you're going to go to jail, that broke down.

01:05:27.440 People now talk about the incarceration, mass incarceration.

01:05:31.320 Well, learn your history.

01:05:33.640 The crime surge started when we stopped incarcerating people who committed serious crimes, and we've been trying to catch up with it ever since.

01:05:42.160 We've got a lot to answer for, Glenn.

01:05:44.380 I think you're a baby boomer like me.

01:05:46.100 And we were advocating all sorts of policies in the 1960s and 70s, which were just a disaster for the culture.

01:05:57.840 That would be my sister that did that, not me, not me.

01:06:01.580 I'm born in 1964, so I'm at the very last year of that.

01:06:05.560 And, you know, I'm kind of sitting here watching it and seeing that, you know, it doesn't work, and nor do the policies that we're talking about today.

01:06:17.000 I mean, today, we're talking about the shooter in California, the killer that went out and tried to kill people at YouTube. 0.98

01:06:26.080 She's crazy. 1.00

01:06:27.500 She's out of her mind crazy. 1.00

01:06:28.780 But nobody's talking about what is the underlying problem.

01:06:33.940 We had a lot of guns forever in America.

01:06:37.660 You could go in as a, you know, a 10-year-old kid and go into a store and buy a gun and bullets in the 1960s.

01:06:44.720 It wasn't a problem.

01:06:46.180 There's a hole in our society right now that none of us seem to want to address.

01:06:50.840 And it's a cultural hole.

01:06:53.360 It is.

01:06:54.500 And the problem is that it seems to be getting worse.

01:06:58.860 Here's a problem we haven't talked about.

01:07:00.840 In 1960, if you were a guy of working age and you were reasonably healthy, you were in the labor force.

01:07:07.900 I mean, if you weren't in the labor force, everybody got in your back, whether it was your girlfriend or your parents or your – or the other guys would get in your back if you weren't either working or looking hard for work.

01:07:20.840 Now we've got, even in a time of full employment, you've got something in the order of 15% of working-class guys in their 20s, 30s, 40s who aren't even looking for work.

01:07:34.360 That is a new phenomenon whereby you have a breakdown in the social fabric that makes it – that's another thing that contributes to the deterioration of life in working-class America.

01:07:46.220 How did that come about?

01:07:47.200 Once again, it became possible to exist at the margins of society in ways that it was much harder to exist in previous years, and a lot of that was cultural.

01:07:59.220 You were a bum if you behaved that way, and you're no longer a bum.

01:08:03.220 Talking to Charles Murray, I want to continue our conversation here just a bit with you, Charles, and delve a little bit deeper into, you know, what can be done and the role of social media.

01:08:21.420 Is that also teaching us things?

01:08:24.400 Are we – nobody wants to take personal responsibility on anything.

01:08:28.240 Everybody wants to say, oh, well, maybe we should, you know, change Facebook into a utility or whatever.

01:08:32.840 Well, no, we are Facebook.

01:08:34.720 We are Twitter.

01:08:35.720 We are our own worst enemy, and I'd like to hear your thoughts on that when we come back.

01:08:41.080 Charles Murray, the book is coming apart.

01:08:46.480 Came out a few years ago, but it's really well worth a read now because it's – you know, we're being pushed into racism and pushed into this is not the problem.

01:08:55.640 I mean, no, no, there's some actual stats here that show what the problem is.

01:09:01.540 Let's deal with the stats and the facts.

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01:10:16.740 Glenn Beck, Mercury.

01:10:30.000 Glenn Beck.

01:10:43.120 Charles Murray is the author of Coming Apart, The State of White America.

01:10:48.680 And Charles, I want to ask you a question.

01:10:51.380 This is my perception, okay, of how things are.

01:10:55.020 That there is – there's always been a group of racists, and they're on both sides, all sides.

01:11:01.920 It's a human problem.

01:11:04.180 However – and we were getting better as a society on the whole.

01:11:09.000 However, we are being pushed and painted as racist and, you know, Islamophobes and everything else. 0.95

01:11:16.160 And this is allowing these crazy nutjobs to be able to come out from under, you know, under the wraps, out of the holes that they have always been in, and start to make points and say, see, they are coming after you. 0.97

01:11:31.600 They are. 0.96

01:11:32.120 See, this is a problem.

01:11:33.960 And so, we're not more racist.

01:11:36.880 It's just that we're kind of being pushed into corners.

01:11:39.940 Is that accurate?

01:11:40.960 We're reaping what we sowed.

01:11:44.620 Back in the 1960s, when we adopted the rule that it is okay to treat people by their race as long as you're doing it for the right reasons, we opened Pandora's box.

01:11:58.260 You know, at the 1964 Civil Rights Act, I wish they had had as the core of that, there shall be no law that gives one race advantage over another legally of any kind.

01:12:12.600 And just said, don't do that.

01:12:14.420 You know, here we are on the anniversary of Martin Luther King's death, and that really was his point, wasn't it?

01:12:19.540 His point was, America, live up to the words you wrote in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

01:12:25.780 And what happened was that we said, we gave identity politics the green light.

01:12:32.520 It's great for black people to identify with being black, and great for Latinos to identify as Latinos and so forth.

01:12:39.620 And as that went on, and as the kind of anger that was coming out toward whites increased, all at once you had the 70-odd percent of the people in this country who are white, who started to say, or at least some of them did,

01:12:56.120 hey, what's good for them is good for us.

01:12:59.980 I'm going to start identifying as being white, as being my primary way of thinking about myself.

01:13:05.720 So it was the inevitable consequence of saying it's okay to treat people differently by race.

01:13:14.920 How much of a role is social media playing in the acceleration of our country being torn apart?

01:13:20.840 It is amplifying all of our natural tendencies to only talk to people who think the same things we do.

01:13:32.360 So now you can get your news from only sources that agree with you.

01:13:38.300 You can interact with only people who politically agree with you.

01:13:42.720 And that is happening big time on both the left and the right, which I think accounts for a lot of this tendency to say,

01:13:52.000 if somebody disagrees with me politically, they are not just disagreeing with me on a political issue.

01:13:57.820 They are bad. 0.97

01:13:59.160 They are bad people. 0.99

01:14:01.060 And that's driving me nuts because it's so widespread now.

01:14:07.720 In looking at all the stats and studying this for so long and being a watchman on the tower and the gates

01:14:16.000 and blowing the horn and nobody listening, are you still optimistic?

01:14:24.200 I'm optimistic for the long term, Glenn.

01:14:27.600 Glenn, I cannot imagine that 200 years from now, with all of the increases in wealth and technology that will have occurred,

01:14:35.240 that we still think that a big government running our lives minutely is a great idea.

01:14:40.140 I think that a lot of the trends in technology and wealth are going to make it easier for us to live three lives.

01:14:48.220 But Glenn, you and I are part of, here's where I get pessimistic,

01:14:51.380 we both, in one way or another, are Madisonians.

01:14:57.240 I mean, we are committed to the original American ideals of limited government and freedom.

01:15:03.020 And I'm afraid over the last few years, we've discovered a whole lot of people who talk to good game with regard to that

01:15:10.600 didn't really believe it when push came to shove.

01:15:13.120 So, you know, I'm pessimistic in the short term.

01:15:16.580 And I don't know where we resuscitate a movement that says, for heaven's sakes, let people live their lives as they see fit.

01:15:27.220 I don't see a constituency of that anymore.

01:15:29.800 Believe it or not, I think I do.

01:15:31.920 I think I do know where that movement is beginning, and it's strange.

01:15:36.720 And we'll talk about it in the next couple of weeks.

01:15:40.240 Charles, I'd love to have you back on again.

01:15:41.780 There's so much I want to talk to you about, about libertarianism and everything else.

01:15:44.980 I can't thank you enough for joining us.

01:15:46.340 Thank you, Charles.

01:15:47.680 I've enjoyed it.

01:15:49.020 Thank you.

01:15:50.580 Author of the book, Coming Apart.

01:15:52.780 Have you read that yet, Stu?

01:15:54.440 Only parts of it.

01:15:55.740 I've, you know, the bell curve from back in the day had read.

01:15:59.660 He's one of the smartest minds there is.

01:16:02.100 I started reading this because I'm reading something.

01:16:04.700 I was reading something else, and it references, and I'm like, man, he keeps coming back to him.

01:16:08.860 And this particular book, I got to read it.

01:16:10.540 It is mind boggling.

01:16:12.780 And all of a sudden, it's kind of like understanding the progressive movement.

01:16:15.860 And all of a sudden, when you understand what he's saying about how America is coming apart,

01:16:20.620 all of a sudden, the fog begins to clear.

01:16:22.380 And you're like, oh, wow.

01:16:23.880 This is the underlying problem.

01:16:26.200 Glenn Beck.

01:16:28.020 Mercury.

01:16:44.860 Love.

01:16:46.060 Courage.

01:16:47.840 Truth.

01:16:49.520 Glenn Beck.

01:16:50.760 Okay, you might be seeing some pictures of something on TV that looks like a, you know, I don't know,

01:16:55.080 a retro stereo receiver or a synthesizer without keys.

01:16:59.580 You know, those old kinds from the 70s.

01:17:02.340 It's about the size of a suitcase.

01:17:04.580 But here's what it can do.

01:17:06.380 Not play music.

01:17:07.920 It can eavesdrop on phone calls and intercept messages.

01:17:11.420 They're called cell site simulators or stingrays.

01:17:17.660 And for the very first time, the government has kind of admitted that they exist.

01:17:24.820 Well, it'd be pretty hard to deny it because we have pictures of them now.

01:17:28.020 According to the Associated Press, foreign spies and criminals may be using them now to track individual cell phones in Washington, D.C.,

01:17:37.260 the home of the CIA, FBI, and NSA and other security organizations.

01:17:41.740 A lot of the agents and operatives of these agencies with cell phones full of sensitive information live in the D.C. area,

01:17:49.580 and they believe now these things are being used.

01:17:52.180 I wonder by whom.

01:17:53.520 I wonder who has.

01:17:54.300 Oh, foreign governments.

01:17:58.580 Probably Canada.

01:18:00.680 Stingrays now are apparently fairly common.

01:18:03.340 Many police departments use them to determine the exact location of a cell phone.

01:18:09.600 Hmm.

01:18:11.360 That's weird because I just have find my phone on my I just use that app if I'm looking for.

01:18:16.580 I wonder why the police need to have.

01:18:18.080 They should try that app.

01:18:18.980 Find my phone.

01:18:20.200 Or are they looking for the exact location of somebody else's phone in the wrong hands,

01:18:26.380 which is pretty much everybody?

01:18:28.400 I think stingrays can be used for more nefarious purposes, like spreading malware.

01:18:34.480 In November, Senator Ron Wyden wrote a letter to the Department of Homeland Security requesting information about the possibility of cell site simulators in the D.C.

01:18:44.300 area.

01:18:44.700 In response, the Department of Homeland Security official Christopher Krebs wrote, which they leaked yesterday, that malicious actors have been using the devices to unlawfully track and monitor cell phone users.

01:18:59.600 This threatens the security of communications resulting in safety, economic and privacy risks, end quote.

01:19:07.680 Oh, well, that's good.

01:19:08.980 I mean, Stu, I can't imagine these are being used by foreign countries.

01:19:13.080 Again, I'm pretty sure it's Canada.

01:19:15.460 I can't imagine that anyone would be compromised in Washington.

01:19:20.020 Do you?

01:19:21.200 I mean, I'm sure they're all they've got nothing to hide.

01:19:23.660 These congressmen, they all live pure lives that cannot be questioned.

01:19:28.340 They're the better, better angels of us.

01:19:30.080 They are.

01:19:30.600 So nobody's listening to conversations or intercepting phone calls there and gathering dirt on these guys.

01:19:35.980 No, no, they're completely beyond.

01:19:37.940 Anyway, the letter was vague beyond that, not to mention the who, what and why and no mention of how many or how much the DHS has conducted a series of examinations.

01:19:51.260 But the details are hazy at best.

01:19:53.660 Contractors and phone companies have had a role in the investigation.

01:19:57.160 In response to the letter, Senator Wyden said that leaving security, I'm quoting to the phone companies, has proven to be disastrous.

01:20:06.480 Oh, yeah.

01:20:07.840 Yeah.

01:20:08.940 You know who's really good at phone security?

01:20:11.660 We should leave it in the hands of the NSA because I trust them.

01:20:21.800 It's Wednesday, April 4th.

01:20:23.780 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:20:28.540 I want to talk about something happy.

01:20:30.560 Hey, I saw Chappaquiddick.

01:20:31.860 Not that this is happy.

01:20:33.080 I saw Chappaquiddick last night.

01:20:35.240 You did?

01:20:35.740 Yeah, I did.

01:20:36.520 And I watched it.

01:20:37.380 It was fascinating.

01:20:38.700 I cannot believe that movie has been made.

01:20:40.900 Oh, I've got a great theory on why it was made.

01:20:43.300 But I watched it last night.

01:20:44.880 I really liked it.

01:20:46.040 I thought it was Jim Gaffigan.

01:20:47.680 He's becoming a great actor.

01:20:49.240 He's awesome.

01:20:50.600 But it was well acted.

01:20:53.440 It was well done.

01:20:55.820 It told the truth.

01:20:57.640 It was not.

01:20:58.560 He doesn't come out looking good.

01:21:01.000 Kennedy.

01:21:01.400 Yeah.

01:21:01.880 So I watched it with my eldest daughter, Mary, and then the cousins, her cousins.

01:21:08.380 So my nieces and nephews.

01:21:10.360 And so we sat down.

01:21:11.280 We watched it.

01:21:12.080 And I said beforehand, do you guys know anything about Chappaquiddick?

01:21:15.500 And they're like, no.

01:21:16.900 I said, do you even know what it is?

01:21:18.680 No.

01:21:19.080 Um, okay.

01:21:21.600 Do you know anything about Ted Kennedy?

01:21:23.840 Uh, is he a brother or cousin of John F. Kennedy?

01:21:30.140 Do you know anything about Joseph P. Kennedy?

01:21:33.880 No, that's his dad.

01:21:36.140 Oh, this is going to be interesting.

01:21:38.180 So we watched it.

01:21:40.900 And as we're watching it, uh, they said, uh, like, is this a true story?

01:21:48.860 Yeah.

01:21:49.660 Yeah.

01:21:51.560 Joseph P. Kennedy.

01:21:53.040 That's what he was like.

01:21:54.660 Jack Kennedy's dad.

01:21:55.820 He was like that.

01:21:56.780 Oh yeah.

01:21:57.420 Worse. 0.99

01:21:58.260 He was a bootlegger. 0.99

01:21:59.680 What? 0.74

01:22:00.880 Okay.

01:22:02.000 He, he kills, um, Mary Jo Kopechny.

01:22:05.700 Oh, spoiler alert.

01:22:06.740 Oh, sorry.

01:22:07.240 He kills Mary Jo Kopechny and they are, uh, and they are immediately like, what?

01:22:13.980 He just left?

01:22:15.200 What do you mean he just left?

01:22:16.480 One of them looks at me and says, I don't tell me the ending, but he never became like

01:22:24.020 a Senator after this again, did he?

01:22:26.840 I'm like, oh no, you've got to watch this.

01:22:28.760 And it really shows, it really shows the, um, the evil and the, I mean, Joseph P. Kennedy 0.89

01:22:39.360 is a monster. 0.99

01:22:40.720 The Ted Kennedy is just a slime ball. 0.99

01:22:44.280 Uh, and, uh, and it just, it just shows how monstrous this machine was. 0.89

01:22:50.740 And it's really well done.

01:22:52.540 Really, really well done.

01:22:54.000 Yeah.

01:22:54.140 That's, that's one of the notable parts about it is it's not like some, some, you know,

01:22:58.300 right wing company that doesn't actually make movies decided to make a movie about that's

01:23:03.460 anti Ted Kennedy.

01:23:04.740 Yeah.

01:23:04.900 Like this is a mainstream Hollywood release.

01:23:07.380 Yeah.

01:23:07.640 And it's, and it's good actors in it.

01:23:10.300 I mean, really, really well done again.

01:23:12.420 How is this movie made?

01:23:13.760 Okay.

01:23:13.960 So I got it.

01:23:14.740 I got a theory.

01:23:15.280 First of all, you have to see it because, um, my, uh, my daughter and the, uh, the nieces

01:23:21.860 and nephews all said, I said, so what do you think?

01:23:24.600 What do you take away from that?

01:23:25.940 And they're like that.

01:23:26.680 I know nothing that I know.

01:23:28.820 Absolutely nothing.

01:23:29.700 If that guy was in the service of our country and nobody said anything really,

01:23:37.380 nobody cared.

01:23:39.120 And I said, no, uh, well, half the country did, but if it would have been reversed, perhaps

01:23:45.140 that same half wouldn't have cared.

01:23:47.480 You know, I, I don't know.

01:23:49.440 And so they were really fascinated by the history of it, which I really liked.

01:23:53.800 And they liked the movie.

01:23:55.040 Now, why is this made my theory? 0.98

01:24:01.300 Everyone knew he was a dirt bag. 0.99

01:24:03.980 Everyone knew he was a dirt bag. 1.00

01:24:05.960 Okay. 0.98

01:24:06.300 He is, I'll bet you that he was one step down from, uh, Weinstein.

01:24:15.120 Okay.

01:24:16.080 I'll bet you, you can't get away, literally get away with murder.

01:24:20.520 We should be fair.

01:24:21.640 We have no evidence that Harvey Weinstein has killed anyone.

01:24:25.120 So I don't know if one step down is the right way.

01:24:27.620 Well, but he didn't, I mean, to be fair to him, I shouldn't have said murder.

01:24:32.300 He didn't murder her.

01:24:34.120 Um, he just fled the scene.

01:24:36.800 Uh, and then she died. 0.90

01:24:38.900 So it was manslaughter for sure.

01:24:41.820 Um, it wasn't, yeah, it wasn't an intentional planned murder.

01:24:44.920 Yeah, it wasn't a murder.

01:24:45.940 It was definitely manslaughter.

01:24:47.280 But if, if you can be involved in somebody's death and you can, uh, just do everything that

01:24:53.900 they did, which is all outlined in this movie, do everything that they did to cover it up

01:24:58.660 and to get you, get you off, um, you can't tell me that you're not a dirt bag for the 0.91

01:25:05.680 rest of your life. 0.99

01:25:06.500 I mean, just a dirt bag. 0.93

01:25:08.900 So, uh, I think that everybody knew that he was a dirt bag, but he was effective and he

01:25:14.640 was an effective tool.

01:25:16.500 And so, you know, they got into bed with him, so to speak, and probably literally with some

01:25:21.380 got into bed with him and they did it just because we've got to fight the fight and we've

01:25:26.200 got to keep the enemy at the, at bay and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:25:30.340 But now that he's dead, now you can, there's enough distance between where you can say,

01:25:39.220 yeah, I was really never for that guy.

01:25:41.820 I mean, he was a bad guy and, you know, it'll tell the truth on him.

01:25:45.640 And nobody has any political reason to hold him up anymore because the Kennedys are over.

01:25:52.140 You know what I mean?

01:25:52.680 So there's no political power gained from keeping this story away and there's no real

01:25:59.280 political power gained by destroying it because what are the Kennedys now?

01:26:04.800 That's interesting.

01:26:05.240 We've seen a little bit of that since, I don't know, mid November, 2016 with Bill Clinton.

01:26:11.520 All of a sudden these rape allegations and, uh, and accusations of sexual harassment are being

01:26:19.320 held, uh, people are receptive to them on the left.

01:26:22.360 When Bill and Hillary die, uh, I will tell you that I believe within five years, a horrifying

01:26:29.460 movie about them will come out. 0.98

01:26:31.880 A movie that just shows them as nasty, backstabbing, money grabbing.

01:26:37.920 He'll actually end up in better light than she will, but he will end up as a, just a, uh, you 0.92

01:26:45.920 know, just the sex fiend that I think he, he may not be anymore, but he was at some point,

01:26:51.800 just this guy who will do anything. 0.96

01:26:53.760 And she is this, this master, you know, manipulator. 0.71

01:26:57.600 And, and, and you watch once they die. 0.99

01:27:01.740 And if she keeps talking, it may be before they die because they may just say, shut up. 0.96

01:27:09.840 And they're already saying it, but she's not listening. 0.94

01:27:12.240 And if she continues down this road, I think somebody will threaten.

01:27:15.620 We're going to tell your story.

01:27:16.980 We're just going to tell your story because we all know it.

01:27:19.760 You're not good. 1.00

01:27:21.680 So shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up. 1.00

01:27:24.700 Well, I mean, I mean, you brought up Weinstein too. 1.00

01:27:27.520 I mean, it's the same similar thing played out when he was effective to their politics.

01:27:33.640 Lots of people knew the story and lots of people didn't tell the story.

01:27:37.200 Now that it's out, they're all saying how we knew he was a terrible guy.

01:27:40.980 I mean, they'll be like, well, we didn't necessarily know he was raping people, but we knew he was 0.96

01:27:44.960 one of the worst people on the planet. 0.91

01:27:46.520 We just never said anything.

01:27:47.320 So here's the problem.

01:27:48.280 Here's the problem.

01:27:49.300 We, we want to believe the best in people unless they're against us.

01:27:54.320 And then we want to believe the worst in people.

01:27:56.960 And the truth probably is somewhere in between on everybody.

01:28:01.300 Okay.

01:28:02.040 There are those exceptions like Harvey Weinstein that there is a monster.

01:28:06.220 Ted Kennedy, he did do it.

01:28:07.920 But if you knew Ted Kennedy on the periphery, you know what I mean? 1.00

01:28:12.640 And you always saw him as a good guy, but you knew that he was a scumbag and he was drinking. 1.00

01:28:17.620 He was probably whoring around. 1.00

01:28:19.960 You would say, look, you know, I don't know.

01:28:22.460 I don't know what happened to him there, but he's, you know, he didn't kill anybody because

01:28:28.640 you want to believe that it's human nature.

01:28:31.680 We want to believe that, you know?

01:28:34.780 And, and so you can't, I don't throw people under the bus per se for, for Bill Clinton.

01:28:43.980 I, I do throw you under the bus on the whole Monica Lewinsky thing, but Bill Clinton, if 1.00

01:28:52.140 you were a friend of Bill Clinton's, I bet you, you would say he's a dog, but he's not 0.98

01:28:56.580 a rapist. 0.97

01:28:57.800 Right. 1.00

01:28:58.280 You might not believe wanting to Broderick.

01:29:00.080 Right.

01:29:00.540 But you know that he's sleeping around with everybody.

01:29:03.040 Okay.

01:29:03.580 But he's not a rapist.

01:29:05.180 Come on.

01:29:05.480 He's a really nice guy.

01:29:07.280 He's just like you and me.

01:29:08.660 And he gets a bad name because people are after him.

01:29:11.080 He was the president and everything else.

01:29:13.120 He's not a rapist.

01:29:14.460 And I bet you that that's what most people believe.

01:29:17.180 And most people believe that about Harvey Weinstein.

01:29:19.620 I think that they, they, they knew that he was a whoremonger, but they didn't think that

01:29:25.000 this stuff was really going on.

01:29:26.760 They didn't know the worst of it.

01:29:27.680 Probably.

01:29:28.500 Many of them.

01:29:29.360 Right.

01:29:30.160 That's true.

01:29:30.720 I mean, there, there are certain defining acts of your life, however, that you don't

01:29:36.060 get the good guy thing, right?

01:29:38.180 You know, if you kill someone and you leave the scene of that murder and then cover it

01:29:43.580 up to protect your political life.

01:29:45.520 I will tell you, unless you spend, I mean, cause there are, look, there's redemption for

01:29:48.580 everything, right?

01:29:49.820 If you spend the rest of your life apologizing for it, it's one thing.

01:29:52.880 He did not do that.

01:29:53.960 No, you have to admit the problem.

01:29:55.640 And that's what this movie comes out with.

01:29:57.320 And it's really well done.

01:29:58.240 Um, who was the, who was the guy in the office, uh, you know, that was always wearing the,

01:30:06.300 uh, you know, the, like the collegiate tie. 0.94

01:30:09.180 He was a real goofy.

01:30:10.540 I mean, they all were, um, you know, him, you know, him look at the cast real quick, but 0.90

01:30:16.740 he plays a cousin.

01:30:18.800 Um, and he was Ted Kennedy's right hand man.

01:30:22.260 Let me see the picture of him.

01:30:24.980 Yeah.

01:30:25.460 Ed Helms.

01:30:26.300 Yeah.

01:30:26.540 So, um, he plays a cousin of Ted Kennedy and, you know, he's known as the fixer and

01:30:33.720 I'll do whatever, you know, whatever I'll fix it for you.

01:30:36.140 I'll fix it.

01:30:36.540 Cause he believes in John and he believed in Robert and he was always friends with Ted

01:30:42.040 and Ted was always getting in trouble, but he understood Ted and everything else.

01:30:45.720 And so Ted is like, fix it, fix it, fix it.

01:30:48.380 And kind of abuses this guy.

01:30:49.960 And, you know, in the movie he's, he goes only so far.

01:30:54.900 And then when he realizes, wait, you didn't call the police.

01:30:59.120 I told you to call the police.

01:31:01.280 It was the right thing.

01:31:03.380 He, you see that he is saying you're, you're past a line here.

01:31:07.800 You're past a line.

01:31:08.780 And I, I, and I don't even know who you are and I don't want to know you.

01:31:12.260 And, you know, when you get there, there really is that, that, that is the choice.

01:31:19.780 You know, you, you know, if you're in that position and you never come back from it, that's

01:31:25.880 a problem.

01:31:26.660 That's a problem.

01:31:28.720 Yeah.

01:31:29.540 And, and so good guy, even if he's, you know, look how many Republican senators we've seen

01:31:35.460 many of them that were like, Oh, I worked with Ted Kennedy.

01:31:38.060 We worked on everything.

01:31:38.880 He's a great guy.

01:31:39.560 We could go out with dinner after we argued about a tough issue with the Senate and not

01:31:44.980 with a guy who did that.

01:31:46.580 No.

01:31:47.380 Again, we've had people who were former terrorists on the air, right?

01:31:50.920 I mean, people who have said, Hey, I did terrible things in my life.

01:31:54.940 And I have Jack Barsky on who was a Russian spy for the Soviet union against the United

01:32:00.680 States.

01:32:01.340 If you spend the rest of your life saying what I did there was wrong and this is what I

01:32:05.440 learned about it.

01:32:06.080 We totally get it.

01:32:06.760 That's not what Kennedy did.

01:32:07.940 No.

01:32:08.140 He spent his whole life running from this and, and the, his whole life having everyone 0.95

01:32:14.880 defend him and his whole life having everyone say, Oh, you're a monster for even bringing 0.94

01:32:21.200 that up. 0.82

01:32:21.880 Yeah.

01:32:22.540 And now that he's dead and he has no power left. 0.92

01:32:26.440 Now everybody's like, yeah, no, he was, he was a monster. 0.88

01:32:34.480 Chap at Quiddick.

01:32:35.300 It's out in theaters.

01:32:35.960 Now you'll really, all right.

01:32:37.740 It's this weekend, right?

01:32:38.580 Is it this weekend?

01:32:39.320 Yeah.

01:32:39.640 I thought it came out last weekend.

01:32:40.880 It's really good.

01:32:41.680 You should, you should go.

01:32:42.500 Friday.

01:32:43.740 All right.

01:32:44.620 Another data breach.

01:32:45.660 This time it's orbits, the popular travel booking platform.

01:32:50.580 Uh, so no big deal there.

01:32:52.180 I mean, they've only compromised.

01:32:53.780 Yeah.

01:32:54.040 It's, I mean, it's still less than a million people.

01:32:56.260 It's only 880,000 customers.

01:32:58.360 So if you did business with orbits between 2006 and, uh, or sorry, 2016 and 2017, you know,

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01:34:05.240 Glenn Beck, Mercury.

01:34:22.020 So I have to tell you something, just on a personal note, I, my life has changed since

01:34:37.300 I started taking allergy shots and everybody is talking to me about how bad things are here

01:34:42.900 in Dallas right now with allergies and Texas is the worst place for allergies I've ever

01:34:47.640 lived.

01:34:48.000 I've lived all over the country that allergies here are, I mean, everything is big in Texas.

01:34:55.380 They're just, they're just, they'll put you out.

01:34:58.340 And so I finally had enough.

01:35:00.420 And like at 52 years old, I went to go get allergy shots and I, I've taken them now for

01:35:08.320 just over a year.

01:35:09.380 I haven't had an allergy shot now since December because I haven't been able to book time to

01:35:15.080 go back and have another test.

01:35:17.560 But my allergy, I've taken like three Alivert in the last, I don't know, six weeks.

01:35:23.940 It's amazing.

01:35:24.980 I used to be put out by, by allergies.

01:35:27.840 If you have allergies, I, it is the one thing in my life that I really think I wish I could

01:35:35.300 go back in time and talk to myself.

01:35:37.760 I mean, well, there's lots of things, but on the little scale, this is the one thing if

01:35:41.980 I could go back and say, Glenn, what is wrong with you, man?

01:35:46.360 Get them.

01:35:47.060 Because I never thought that they would really work or whatever.

01:35:51.360 And there was no difference.

01:35:52.340 It's, it's game changing.

01:35:54.580 Absolutely game changing.

01:35:55.860 Stu's been suffering with them for the last couple of weeks.

01:35:58.620 Yeah.

01:35:58.740 I never really had an allergy issue until Texas.

01:36:02.220 Texas is really rough.

01:36:03.780 My son is, he's 13 and he is, he's like, I am just horrible allergies.

01:36:11.280 And I keep telling him, son, come on, come with me.

01:36:14.400 And he's like, I'm not getting a shot every week.

01:36:16.320 And I'm like, for two years, you get a shot for two years and, you know, most likely they're

01:36:21.460 over for the rest of your life.

01:36:23.260 Every week for two years?

01:36:25.160 No, it's every week.

01:36:26.360 It's every week for a while.

01:36:27.920 And then it's every other week.

01:36:29.420 And then it's like, uh, you know, every third week and then every month.

01:36:33.780 I'm interested.

01:36:35.000 I'm interested just because I spend, I feel like a month or two a year now.

01:36:40.760 Just miserable.

01:36:41.360 Just in that like state of sort of sick.

01:36:44.280 Yeah.

01:36:44.480 You know, you're, you're, you're, it is.

01:36:46.680 I'm telling you, it's game changing.

01:36:48.600 Really?

01:36:49.060 Yeah.

01:36:49.480 It's game changing.

01:36:50.540 I had heard of this.

01:36:51.200 I wasn't honestly sure if it was, you know, Pinterest level medicine or actual medicine.

01:36:56.680 It's actually very dangerous.

01:36:58.080 Get a good doctor to do it because they can kill you if they don't do it right.

01:37:01.720 You know, it's what you're allergic to, but I'm telling you, get it done.

01:37:06.380 It's game changing.

01:37:07.300 Glenn Beck, Mercury.

01:37:12.100 You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

01:37:37.580 Welcome to the, uh, welcome to the program.

01:37:41.060 Just writing a letter to quick letter to Jim Gaffigan, um, letting him know I watched,

01:37:45.720 uh, Chepaquiddick last night.

01:37:47.320 And, um, uh, I just want to read this before I send it off.

01:37:50.920 I want to read this, make sure this is not offensive.

01:37:53.320 No.

01:37:53.860 Cause you know me.

01:37:54.960 No, no, no.

01:37:55.460 I'm trying to, I'm trying to give him a compliment.

01:37:56.980 I just don't know how to explain it.

01:37:58.240 I said, you're really becoming an accomplished actor.

01:38:00.180 It's really hard for people not to see the real person in quotes as someone else.

01:38:06.040 If they're as famous as you are, Jim Gaffigan is not who I was watching last night.

01:38:11.260 Great job.

01:38:13.060 I think that's a compliment to an actor, right?

01:38:15.180 It is right.

01:38:15.900 But it makes sense.

01:38:17.620 He's not going to be like, what the hell do you mean?

01:38:19.160 Jim Gaffigan's not.

01:38:20.120 Remember when we did that with Tony, what was his name?

01:38:22.320 Tony Bennett.

01:38:23.040 Oh God.

01:38:23.480 Yeah.

01:38:23.720 And we're like, Hey, you know, I don't want to ask you, but I mean, I have to ask you if

01:38:26.940 you'll sing, you know, I left my heart, but you know, do you not?

01:38:29.920 Are you tired of, why would I be tired of singing that song?

01:38:32.800 It's my most famous song.

01:38:34.200 Oh my gosh.

01:38:34.540 We're just trying to be nice to you. 1.00

01:38:36.120 You old cretin you. 0.99

01:38:37.680 Plus we've experienced people who hate singing their songs. 0.99

01:38:40.220 Yes.

01:38:40.400 Like David Cassidy.

01:38:42.060 He didn't like singing his songs and refused to.

01:38:45.620 Refused to sing his own songs.

01:38:47.340 For a while he did.

01:38:48.660 Yeah.

01:38:49.040 For a while he was ashamed of him.

01:38:50.660 And I think he got over that.

01:38:52.260 But I remember him being nice.

01:38:52.680 He was a nice guy.

01:38:53.500 He just did not, did not want to sing.

01:38:56.780 I think I love you or any Partridge family stuff.

01:38:59.660 And refused to do it.

01:39:00.740 Yeah.

01:39:01.260 There was just a period of his life.

01:39:03.360 Well, because it was like, that's all he was for so long.

01:39:06.000 Yeah.

01:39:06.240 He couldn't get anything else for so long.

01:39:08.920 And so when he tried to make a comeback, he was like, please don't bring that up.

01:39:11.920 Please don't bring that up.

01:39:12.740 So all he would do when we brought him in was, I think he played the wedding march on the guitar.

01:39:18.520 Yeah.

01:39:18.940 Yeah.

01:39:19.140 Yeah.

01:39:19.420 Yeah.

01:39:19.760 Yeah.

01:39:20.340 Yeah.

01:39:20.540 At our trailer park wedding.

01:39:22.140 Yeah.

01:39:22.460 Pat and I.

01:39:23.080 It was fun.

01:39:23.680 Because we're both pastors of the Church of Universal Life in Modesto, California.

01:39:27.680 Cost us 25 bucks to get the pastorship.

01:39:31.020 But we're pastorships for life.

01:39:32.540 Yeah.

01:39:32.860 Okay.

01:39:33.220 Anyway.

01:39:33.800 So if you need to be married, we marry you. 0.58

01:39:36.100 Can't get you a divorce, but we can marry you. 0.96

01:39:37.900 And we don't believe in divorce.

01:39:39.080 I think in all 50 states.

01:39:40.340 Anyway.

01:39:40.760 Yep.

01:39:40.940 So, um, and I, and I also believe India, but I'd have to look into that.

01:39:46.800 Um, but, uh, yeah, so we did a trailer park wedding and a bowling alley and it was beautiful.

01:39:51.660 It sounds beautiful.

01:39:52.900 Yeah.

01:39:53.000 You walk down the bowling alley, uh, the, you know, the aisle, the aisle is the bowling

01:39:56.340 alley itself.

01:39:57.240 Yeah.

01:39:57.380 Yeah.

01:39:57.760 And then, you know, you each after, after you kiss the bride, then you each have to bowl

01:40:02.320 a lane and it was nice.

01:40:04.660 And the reception was beautiful with a beer fountain and everything.

01:40:08.920 There wasn't a dry eye.

01:40:10.940 In the bowling alley.

01:40:11.900 No, no.

01:40:12.500 What about the other bowlers?

01:40:13.400 Dry eye.

01:40:13.920 Were they?

01:40:14.240 They were all weeping.

01:40:14.960 They were weeping as well while they were bowling.

01:40:16.720 Yeah.

01:40:16.860 We could only get the lanes, you know, on league night.

01:40:20.040 Um, but so.

01:40:21.540 It's hard to believe we did that looking back.

01:40:23.540 There it is.

01:40:24.680 And no, it's hard to, not hard to believe that we did that.

01:40:27.120 It's hard to believe that David Cassidy did it and two people.

01:40:30.780 Yeah.

01:40:31.140 Two people wanted to be married that way.

01:40:33.240 How that, uh.

01:40:33.860 I've married, I've married a few people.

01:40:36.100 How that marriage worked out?

01:40:37.020 I don't know.

01:40:37.960 I have no idea.

01:40:39.040 I'd love to hear.

01:40:39.700 If you were ever married by Glenn or Pat, let us know how that's working out for you.

01:40:45.020 I'm sure.

01:40:45.460 Well, because if you're taking your vows that seriously, that you're going to call a little

01:40:49.660 think about this radio host and have them marry you at a bowling alley, how could it not work out? 0.92

01:40:54.300 If you were married by me in the 80s or the early 90s and then you saw me on Fox and you

01:40:59.780 were, you know, you were a Barack Obama guy, you must have been like, all your wedding

01:41:04.340 pictures have Glenn in it.

01:41:07.080 Anyway.

01:41:07.480 They thought that you were this like harmless, funny guy playing pop hits.

01:41:11.560 Guys, before we get into something that Pat wants to talk about, which is really important.

01:41:14.940 Pat, I got these.

01:41:15.800 I got these at a store the other day.

01:41:17.960 Stu won't eat them, but he's a vegetarian.

01:41:20.980 They're crickets and larva.

01:41:22.860 Yeah.

01:41:23.320 Okay.

01:41:24.000 But they're, but they're salt and vinegar larva.

01:41:26.720 Well, one of them's bacon and cheese, according to the little box.

01:41:30.160 Isn't that gross?

01:41:31.020 A little box of crickets.

01:41:31.420 These are real crickets.

01:41:32.760 There is no way I would eat that.

01:41:34.020 Right.

01:41:34.460 So the question is, would Jeffy eat them?

01:41:37.660 Will Jeffy eat it?

01:41:39.180 That's a great segment.

01:41:40.800 Doubt it.

01:41:41.540 You don't think he'd eat that?

01:41:42.060 You don't think he'd eat that?

01:41:43.060 No.

01:41:43.180 If it's flavored by bacon and cheese?

01:41:45.140 Well, maybe.

01:41:45.920 Yeah.

01:41:46.180 Maybe then.

01:41:47.380 I mean, the other one's Mexican spice, the larva, but look at that. 0.81

01:41:50.640 Yeah.

01:41:51.040 I feel like Mexican spice larva would not be tasty, but the bacon and cheese crickets.

01:41:56.500 How about salt and vinegar larva?

01:41:57.780 The larvettes?

01:41:58.900 It's the original worm snacks.

01:42:01.260 So don't fall for the competitors.

01:42:03.940 Except no imitations.

01:42:06.660 I was like, I always used to love Breitbart had at the top of their page for a while.

01:42:11.580 The official Breitbart store.

01:42:13.920 Because so many competitors were just selling these knockoff Breitbart products for you to buy.

01:42:18.760 Like, I've got a knockoff Breitbart dessert.

01:42:21.340 Who the hell would sell that?

01:42:23.580 All right. 0.92

01:42:25.080 Pat.

01:42:25.880 Yes.

01:42:26.260 You want to talk about, I think, something that is really quite amazing.

01:42:30.480 That the press is really just saying, no, no, no.

01:42:35.620 That's not what happened here at all.

01:42:38.140 You want to talk about Eichenwald?

01:42:39.260 Eichenwald.

01:42:39.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:42:40.280 Shapiro battle?

01:42:41.100 Yeah.

01:42:41.640 Really interesting, fascinating battle.

01:42:44.440 They started going back and forth on Twitter.

01:42:46.660 Friday.

01:42:46.980 On Friday, over the Kyle Kashev appearance.

01:42:52.000 And so they were debating gun control for a while.

01:42:55.080 And then Ben said, because Eichenwald was actually mocking and insulting Kashev.

01:43:05.360 Who's one of the students at, he's a pro-Second Amendment student at Parkland.

01:43:09.040 And he was being insulted far worse than anything Laura Ingram said about David Hogg.

01:43:13.880 Really, really bad.

01:43:14.540 I mean, come on.

01:43:15.020 Yeah, really bad.

01:43:15.860 Calling him like he was shopping fantasies and he's troubled.

01:43:21.520 And he got that from some armchair psychologist that emailed him on him or something.

01:43:26.960 So anyway, Shapiro said, well, maybe we should boycott MSNBC.

01:43:32.560 And he, because his profile still says that he's a contributor at MSNBC.

01:43:40.600 And Vanity Fair too, right?

01:43:41.980 Yeah, and Vanity Fair.

01:43:42.980 Well, MSNBC said, yeah, he doesn't work here.

01:43:47.420 So don't boycott us.

01:43:49.620 And so somebody asked him, are you not working at MSNBC anymore?

01:43:56.100 Oh, yeah, I just forgot to remove that from my profile because it just happened a few months ago.

01:44:01.760 So then the discussion continued and he, and since Shapiro realized he didn't work at MSNBC anymore, the other choice was Vanity Fair.

01:44:12.360 Maybe we should, maybe we should boycott Vanity Fair.

01:44:15.000 How would that be?

01:44:15.600 And Brian Stelter got into this, must have seen the battle between them.

01:44:22.960 And so he emailed Vanity Fair and Vanity Fair didn't have him listed there either.

01:44:29.480 So Brian Stelter tweeted out, hey, do you still work at Vanity Fair?

01:44:37.480 He said, yeah, I'm a contributing editor.

01:44:40.460 And Vanity Fair said, no, you're not.

01:44:45.180 And so he claims that's how he found out he doesn't work at Vanity Fair anymore.

01:44:54.900 Wait, well, so I read this story last night.

01:44:57.100 I don't know where or what source I read this in.

01:44:59.220 I read a different story.

01:45:00.720 I read a story that he had quit Vanity Fair.

01:45:04.920 And, and, and everybody was saying, yeah, that he could quit, blah, blah, blah.

01:45:10.960 And I thought to myself, really?

01:45:12.440 Because they never allowed me to quit, you know, immediately, even though that's what happened.

01:45:17.860 Oh, Glenn Beck was fired.

01:45:18.800 No, I quit.

01:45:20.620 Same thing with, you know, with Laura Ingram.

01:45:23.420 She's going to be fired. 1.00

01:45:24.520 She's going to be fired. 1.00

01:45:25.300 She's going to be fired. 1.00

01:45:27.180 The story I read that, that he quit Vanity Fair.

01:45:31.900 Not according to him, right?

01:45:33.160 Not according to him.

01:45:33.960 Wow.

01:45:34.280 And not according to Vanity Fair.

01:45:36.460 Vanity Fair just didn't renew his contract.

01:45:38.540 So what is the...

01:45:39.480 And he claims to have found out.

01:45:41.120 Hell of a way to find out.

01:45:42.940 Yeah.

01:45:43.380 And a Twitter battle with Ben Shapiro.

01:45:45.220 That is kind of a weird way to find out.

01:45:47.660 But this guy, I'm starting to wonder if his name is even Kurt Eichenwald.

01:45:51.620 Is that even true?

01:45:52.600 Yeah.

01:45:53.080 You know what that sounds like?

01:45:54.780 Does he exist?

01:45:55.020 It sounds like one of these guys who, you know, just makes things up.

01:45:58.960 I mean, is he, does he have any credibility at all?

01:46:01.360 The two places that he doesn't work, he's claiming that he worked at?

01:46:05.400 Well, I think he did work there at one point.

01:46:09.960 You know?

01:46:10.420 Well, that would be like me having up on my, you know...

01:46:13.320 That you work at Fox.

01:46:14.020 I work at Fox.

01:46:14.800 Right.

01:46:15.140 Or CNN.

01:46:16.160 I work...

01:46:16.700 How does Glenn Beck work at Fox and CNN?

01:46:20.000 Mm-hmm.

01:46:20.460 Right.

01:46:20.720 He doesn't.

01:46:21.280 They were sort of two different times.

01:46:22.100 Right.

01:46:22.340 Two different times.

01:46:23.100 Yeah.

01:46:23.240 And I don't work for them anymore.

01:46:25.480 It's amazing.

01:46:26.260 I'm glad, Pat, you brought up the Kyle Kashuv, that whole story, though.

01:46:30.640 I was fascinated by...

01:46:31.540 That's the other part of this.

01:46:32.560 Yeah.

01:46:32.660 That's really amazing.

01:46:33.580 It is interesting.

01:46:34.420 I mean, because it's weird, because now you're seeing Kashuv, who's kind of the pro-Second

01:46:38.500 Amendment student at Parkland that's been in the media.

01:46:41.180 There's obviously many others that aren't in the media.

01:46:43.360 And the same thing with David Hogg, who's the anti-gun guy who's been in the media largely,

01:46:47.680 and there's obviously others there.

01:46:48.780 But, like, they just battle back and forth, and it's like, at one point, we had that idea

01:46:52.500 that, you know, politics people would say, it's like two high school cliques fighting

01:46:56.280 against each other.

01:46:57.400 Like, now that really is what it is.

01:46:59.240 Like, we're actually every day waking up to see what two high school students are saying

01:47:02.860 about each other, which is so strange.

01:47:04.500 But Kashuv has been so much more appropriate in the way he's handled it.

01:47:08.120 He's made points based on the facts.

01:47:10.220 He has not insulted people.

01:47:12.060 He is being insulted.

01:47:13.640 I mean, which is worse?

01:47:14.520 It's trafficking fantasies and calling a 16 or 17-year-old kid troubled when you've

01:47:20.740 never met him.

01:47:21.580 No.

01:47:21.720 You've never talked to him.

01:47:23.000 Isn't that worse than using the word whining in a tweet?

01:47:25.780 I kind of think so.

01:47:26.620 Much worse.

01:47:27.460 So let me say this.

01:47:29.140 The left right now is talking about how they're just being bullies and, you know, we've got

01:47:35.040 to stop this because people are just so mean to these kids.

01:47:38.600 I want to play something for you.

01:47:40.380 Now, we've we've we talked about it yesterday and you may have heard this.

01:47:47.780 You may not have.

01:47:48.460 You may have just read about it.

01:47:49.820 It was an interview that was given to NRA TV by one of the teachers at the Parkland

01:47:56.900 High School.

01:47:57.880 And what she was saying in this interview said many things.

01:48:01.840 One was the kids are not healing.

01:48:03.920 OK, the kids, this is just ripping the school apart every day by these two kids being in

01:48:10.440 the media all the time.

01:48:11.900 It's it's just ripping it apart because not everybody agrees.

01:48:14.940 And they're starting to feel like this is just you're just using this for stardom now.

01:48:19.740 And so it's ripping it apart.

01:48:21.460 And she said that kids are still crying in the hallways, et cetera, et cetera.

01:48:25.460 And she said also that people if this is not universally accepted at the high school.

01:48:33.060 Now, I want to just play a little bit of the interview.

01:48:36.380 Her voice may surprise you.

01:48:39.260 Listen, there is blood on many people's hands through this whole thing.

01:48:43.440 Definitely on the principal's hands.

01:48:45.480 But Sheriff Israel definitely blood on his hands because the BSO, not only the school resource

01:48:50.820 officer, but no BSO deputies ever went in, even while shots were being followed.

01:48:55.360 OK, stop.

01:48:56.060 So so this teacher goes on to talk about how, you know, there are other things that we should

01:49:02.400 be looking at, et cetera, et cetera.

01:49:04.660 But that's surprisingly not her real voice.

01:49:10.100 Why does she need her voice disguised? 1.00

01:49:15.060 Why does she refuse to come on camera? 1.00

01:49:18.400 Is it because she's afraid of the right or she's afraid of losing her job, getting death

01:49:28.360 threats, getting killed?

01:49:31.080 What is it she's afraid of?

01:49:33.620 Let's let's stop with the oh, my gosh, she said whined. 0.99

01:49:39.240 She said he was whining.

01:49:41.860 That's not bullying.

01:49:43.060 That's life.

01:49:43.960 OK, that's life.

01:49:45.000 You're going to meet people that say things about you that aren't true.

01:49:48.060 That that you disagree with.

01:49:50.500 And maybe sometimes they're right.

01:49:52.420 Maybe sometimes they're wrong.

01:49:53.580 But that's going to happen to you.

01:49:55.480 Get over it.

01:49:57.820 This is a problem.

01:49:59.740 When we have a citizen in our own country saying, look, I have to tell you, the sheriff's

01:50:05.300 department is out of control.

01:50:06.740 We're not doing the basic things and the school is tearing itself apart.

01:50:11.580 But by the way, you have to describe disguise my voice.

01:50:15.080 There's a problem.

01:50:16.900 The big one.

01:50:17.540 A big one.

01:50:19.040 Yeah.

01:50:19.160 There's no free speech anymore.

01:50:22.080 Certainly can't have your livelihood if you exercise it in certain places.

01:50:27.020 Yeah.

01:50:27.140 You could say things.

01:50:27.860 You just can't say bills while saying.

01:50:29.560 Right.

01:50:29.820 Right.

01:50:30.040 You used to have to disguise me that way.

01:50:32.300 You used to have to disguise your voice if you were going to come out against the president

01:50:35.680 or the mob.

01:50:38.140 Yeah.

01:50:38.300 You didn't have to do it because you were worried about the local sheriff, the media

01:50:43.080 or high school students.

01:50:45.100 Just a different kind of mob.

01:50:49.060 Pat Gray Unleashed coming up in moments on the Blaze Radio and TV network.

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01:51:10.200 Wait a minute.

01:51:10.680 I don't know what that's.

01:51:11.520 That's not necessary.

01:51:12.540 That's in the promo.

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01:52:52.040 Mercury.

01:53:09.740 Glenn Beck.

01:53:11.200 I mean, I'm pretty well lit.

01:53:13.180 I don't see any shadowy figures behind me.

01:53:16.740 I mean, honestly, if he sees powerful shadowy shadowy groups, is corporate America standing

01:53:23.240 with us?

01:53:23.960 OK, I guess it doesn't really make sense.

01:53:26.360 But what I want to get on from is the negativity in this situation.

01:53:29.180 And I want to focus on what's ahead for our movement.

01:53:31.520 It's really what we need to be focusing on is the positivity and really bringing everybody

01:53:35.220 together.

01:53:35.880 Wow.

01:53:36.320 This kid doesn't have anybody helping him.

01:53:38.440 He's just a brilliant PR kid.

01:53:40.960 No shadowy figures.

01:53:41.900 He wants to get on to the positive.

01:53:43.320 Yeah, he wants to be positive, wants to avoid those negatives.

01:53:46.740 People can be fired up in these debates, Glenn.

01:53:49.420 And luckily, David Hogg will not participate in such things. 0.95

01:53:52.720 Disgust or disgusting individuals. 1.00

01:53:55.000 Hypocritical and disgusting. 1.00

01:53:56.100 She doesn't care about them. 1.00

01:53:57.040 She doesn't care about police. 1.00

01:53:58.480 She doesn't care about these children's lives. 1.00

01:54:00.180 Because our parents don't know how to use a f***ing democracy. 1.00

01:54:02.660 So we have sick f***ing people out there that want to continue to sell more guns, murder 1.00

01:54:05.720 more children, and honestly just get reelected. 1.00

01:54:08.000 I see more f***ing money than children's lives. 1.00

01:54:10.440 F*** you. 1.00

01:54:10.940 He wants to move on to the positive, though. 1.00

01:54:15.140 Don't you love, don't you love our f***ing parents don't know how to use f***ing democracy? 0.99

01:54:21.320 Hey, David, it's not a democracy. 0.97

01:54:23.320 It's a republic.

01:54:24.440 And it's very different.

01:54:26.640 You don't want it to.

01:54:27.900 Well, you probably do.

01:54:30.080 You don't want a democracy.

01:54:32.440 You want a constitutional republic.

01:54:34.780 Glenn Beck, Mercury.

The Glenn Beck Program - April 04, 2018

Who's to Blame？ 'Society Is Sick' - 4⧸4⧸18

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