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00:03:30.460 The family, apparently the wife and, quote, numerous children of the Boulder terror attack suspect are going to be deported.

00:03:42.680 And, boy, a lot of people are very upset about that.

00:03:44.660 I mean, yes, I mean, he was a good dad, sure.

00:03:47.820 I mean, he waited until his daughter graduated so he didn't have to be in jail for murdering Jews and setting an old woman on fire, you know, during the graduation week.

00:03:58.300 So, I mean, you're going to hold that against him and his family.

00:04:02.080 I mean, I'm sure they're not extremists just because dad is.

00:04:05.120 Oh, my gosh.

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00:04:07.720 And there's some critical thinking questions that I think we need to ask today.

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00:04:20.220 Or is it just you and me?

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00:04:22.040 We begin in 60 seconds.

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00:06:14.760 Okay, so the wife and numerous children of the Boulder terror attack suspect to be deported, you know, he was the shirtless guy that was acting like he was a landscaper while Jews were in their demonstration run for their lives, a grassroots organization against Hamas terror.

00:06:37.920 Um, and he was there and he threw Molotov cocktails.

00:06:42.200 Um, luckily, I guess, um, he was captured on a cell phone video at the scene.

00:06:47.820 Um, he's already admitted it, uh, but the family is now being deported.

00:06:52.460 They're being processed, a process for expedited removal back to Egypt.

00:06:57.140 Uh, it will allow them to be deported without an immigration court hearing.

00:07:00.820 And, uh, you just listen for it cause it's coming.

00:07:04.520 There's some Democrat going, wait a minute.

00:07:06.360 We can't just deport the whole family.

00:07:07.660 Yes, we can deport the whole family and we should.

00:07:15.220 Extremism has got to be choked out.

00:07:20.020 You know, we are told that we've opened our borders and this is so bizarre.

00:07:25.160 We've opened our borders for a humanitarian crisis.

00:07:28.280 Let me ask you, what humanitarian crisis?

00:07:31.000 What is it?

00:07:32.140 Well, it's Syria, you know, Glenn.

00:07:34.380 Really?

00:07:34.800 Because we didn't have this kind of humanitarian crisis during World War II, where most of the world was on fire.

00:07:44.360 We didn't have this kind of refugee problem.

00:07:47.160 This is a humanitarian crisis.

00:07:50.860 We have to open our arms.

00:07:51.980 We have to open our borders. 0.95

00:07:53.880 We must.

00:07:54.680 Our banks, millions are fleeing war and poverty and persecution.

00:07:59.220 But I have eyes.

00:08:00.380 Do you have eyes?

00:08:01.640 I mean, I've seen the footage.

00:08:03.220 We see the lines at the border.

00:08:04.760 We see who's showing up and something just doesn't add up.

00:08:08.020 It's just not right.

00:08:09.720 First of all, 12 million refugees from Syria, Sudan, Ukraine.

00:08:15.640 12 million.

00:08:17.860 Okay.

00:08:18.580 All right.

00:08:19.360 Let's just think about this here for a second.

00:08:22.160 12 million refugees.

00:08:23.340 I mean, the United States took 400,000 refugees in during World War II.

00:08:30.600 400,000 refugees during World War II.

00:08:33.620 We have, what did we do?

00:08:35.140 8 million, 10 million here recently?

00:08:37.000 And they're not all from Syria and Sudan and Ukraine.

00:08:39.640 They're from China.

00:08:40.540 They're from Saudi Arabia.

00:08:42.480 They're from Afghanistan.

00:08:44.220 They're from Mexico.

00:08:45.900 They're from Guatemala.

00:08:47.540 They're from everywhere.

00:08:50.020 This is weird, isn't it?

00:08:51.580 And, you know, the other thing is, look who's coming.

00:08:55.800 It's not families.

00:08:57.060 It's not mothers clutching their children.

00:08:59.280 It's not the elderly or the infirm.

00:09:01.660 No, no, no.

00:09:03.100 Overwhelmingly, the refugees filling the streets of Berlin and Paris and London and now American cities are young men. 0.95

00:09:10.920 20-somethings.

00:09:11.960 Male.

00:09:12.640 Fit.

00:09:13.640 Angry.

00:09:14.720 And alone.

00:09:16.520 Hmm.

00:09:16.740 Aren't those the ones that should be defending their country?

00:09:22.800 Here's a question that nobody wants you to ask.

00:09:26.380 Where are their wives? 1.00

00:09:28.720 Where are their sisters? 0.97

00:09:29.980 Did they just leave their sisters behind?

00:09:32.380 Where are the daughters? 0.99

00:09:34.140 Did they leave their daughters behind?

00:09:35.760 What kind of man flees his own country, flees war, and leaves his mom behind?

00:09:45.440 What kind of man watches his own country burn and then turns and runs without the people he loves?

00:09:54.320 He turns and runs, not to fight, but to apply for asylum in a place that he wants to reshape in the image of the country he's fleeing from.

00:10:05.340 See, there's some questions we have to ask.

00:10:09.080 We're told that this is just like World War II.

00:10:12.220 I mean, these are desperate people, like the Jews of Europe, just begging for safety.

00:10:16.600 But the math doesn't work here.

00:10:18.740 After one of the worst genocides in human history, we took in 400,000 displaced people over four years.

00:10:26.140 And now we're told we have to accept millions, not thousands, millions of military-aged men from countries where the problem isn't persecution of Muslims,

00:10:37.600 but the persecution by Muslims.

00:10:41.540 Let me ask you, why is Syria in ruins today?

00:10:46.800 Yes, Assad is a dictator.

00:10:48.660 Yes, he was.

00:10:50.080 But also because ISIS and Islamist radicals took hold of that land and drove millions from their homes,

00:10:57.340 especially the Christians, the Druze, the Yazidis, the Jews, the secular Muslims.

00:11:03.500 Why is Sudan in chaos?

00:11:06.740 Islamist factions.

00:11:07.840 Why did Afghanistan collapse the second we left?

00:11:13.420 Because the Taliban had more spine than the National Army.

00:11:17.180 That we armed and trained for 20 years.

00:11:20.860 And what did the men of Afghanistan do?

00:11:23.380 They fled.

00:11:25.120 And now they demand asylum in Europe.

00:11:27.800 Leaving their daughters behind to be re-enslaved? 0.97

00:11:32.440 And if they hated Islam so much, or the Islamist rule, why are they now pushing for Sharia law in all of these countries?

00:11:46.060 I don't understand.

00:11:47.580 And by the way, if you come here, you should know that one of the most sacred ideas from Western civilization is that women and children go first.

00:12:00.180 And yet, somehow, in this global exodus, this new exodus, we're supposed to believe that the noble, the persecuted, and the pious

00:12:19.900 are the men who ran without their wives, or their daughters, or their sisters, or their children.

00:12:30.280 Huh.

00:12:31.240 Now, as bad as that is, I think it gets worse.

00:12:33.460 Not only do they come here after they have abandoned their duty to their country, and abandoned their duty to their wives and children,

00:12:42.800 they're demanding benefits and shelter and open borders.

00:12:48.920 And they bring with them the disdain for the nations that took them in.

00:12:53.220 They march in our own streets and chant against the Jews. 0.53

00:12:58.180 They burn our flags. 0.92

00:13:00.120 They demand Sharia law. 0.96

00:13:01.440 They mock the cultures that have offered them protection.

00:13:06.260 The unspoken contract that gratitude is a currency of refuge.

00:13:12.720 That's torn up.

00:13:15.280 I mean, I don't mind helping people, and I don't do it.

00:13:18.100 I don't help people so they say thank you.

00:13:20.000 It is nice.

00:13:20.900 It's not required.

00:13:22.480 It's not expected.

00:13:23.900 But it is nice.

00:13:26.260 But have you seen any gratitude?

00:13:29.020 Any.

00:13:29.400 No, I see the exact opposite.

00:13:33.340 When these young men come into our countries and they commit violence, just as one did in Boulder, Colorado, 0.99

00:13:40.120 an illegal Egyptian immigrant, firebomb Jewish protesters,

00:13:45.160 we're told now, yesterday, one of the Democrats said this has nothing to do with the border.

00:13:51.100 Really?

00:13:51.840 Really?

00:13:53.420 Wow.

00:13:54.060 Well, I guess, I mean, Biden did let him in in 2022, and then he overstayed his visa twice.

00:14:01.960 But that man yelling free Palestine as he throws fire into a crowd of American Jews,

00:14:10.480 and we're not supposed to tie this to an American crisis.

00:14:15.260 You see, he was here on a visa because he had applied for refugee status from Egypt? 0.69

00:14:25.980 A guy who hates Jews? 0.96

00:14:31.360 A Muslim who hates Jews from Egypt? 0.90

00:14:35.840 What are you fleeing exactly in Egypt? 0.93

00:14:38.620 Because I bet you're mighty popular there.

00:14:40.920 We're not asking the right questions, and compassion is a virtue until compassion becomes cowardice.

00:14:53.020 And that's where we are now.

00:14:54.420 There is no reason why any sovereign nation should tolerate imported extremists, 0.96

00:15:00.560 especially when the greatest threat to the native people of the countries these men are fleeing,

00:15:04.700 is from Islamic extremism.

00:15:08.380 They are the rot they say they are escaping. 0.97

00:15:12.600 And then they're planting that rot in our soil, the soil that gave them safety.

00:15:18.660 This is not immigration. 0.60

00:15:20.140 This is infiltration.

00:15:21.200 This is an invasion, and we need to stop lying to ourselves about that.

00:15:26.580 Okay, this is not 1945.

00:15:28.600 This is something entirely new.

00:15:30.880 This is something orchestrated, something very dangerous.

00:15:34.440 And if we can't find the will to tell the truth,

00:15:37.260 we can't draw the line between compassion and self-destruction,

00:15:40.440 we're not going to survive with anything.

00:15:43.100 We won't have anything left.

00:15:46.200 The truth is the West isn't being asked to shelter the world.

00:15:49.760 It's being asked to surrender.

00:15:53.980 And I'm not one ready to kneel at anybody's feet.

00:15:58.440 So I have some questions, some critical thinking questions.

00:16:05.000 Because remember, critical thinking is the immune system of a free society.

00:16:09.360 It's what allows individuals to separate truth from propaganda,

00:16:14.140 wisdom from the noise, and facts from manipulation.

00:16:17.520 And without it, you don't think.

00:16:19.800 People don't think.

00:16:20.900 They absorb.

00:16:22.300 They're shaped.

00:16:23.360 They don't choose.

00:16:24.520 They react.

00:16:25.300 They don't lead.

00:16:26.160 They follow.

00:16:27.240 That's why critical thinking is so important.

00:16:31.180 Critical thinking keeps us from being ruled by emotion.

00:16:34.600 Remember, you know, facts don't care about your feelings.

00:16:38.760 Well, why is it that everybody's just caring about their feelings?

00:16:42.700 Because they're not thinking critically anymore.

00:16:46.320 That's why they're ruled by feelings and emotion, peer pressure and fear.

00:16:51.780 Critical thinking, asking the critical questions, the right questions,

00:16:55.700 equips you to challenge power and hold the line when popular opinion is wrong.

00:17:03.760 And popular opinion is often wrong.

00:17:08.320 It guards liberty by preventing the slow creep of tyranny disguised as progress.

00:17:14.720 And that's usually where tyranny comes from, the creep of progress.

00:17:20.080 What causes fear?

00:17:29.560 Not knowing the truth.

00:17:35.740 If critical thinking is lost, lies spread unchecked, and they're repeated over and over again until they become truth.

00:17:42.360 Men can have babies. 0.63

00:17:43.280 Men can have babies. 0.63

00:17:44.160 Men can have babies. 0.63

00:17:45.440 Until somebody stands up and say, no, they can't.

00:17:49.220 No, they can't have babies. 1.00

00:17:51.320 Period.

00:17:53.260 But if you don't stand up, if you're not thinking, if you're just following, governments grow more authoritarian.

00:18:00.020 And there's more and more blind compliance.

00:18:02.940 And education becomes indoctrination.

00:18:05.180 Does any of this sound familiar like a road we're on?

00:18:07.900 Free speech begins to collapse under social pressure because no one will question the mob.

00:18:15.360 Evil disguises itself as virtue.

00:18:19.220 Because no one asks for proof anymore.

00:18:23.320 People feel, but they don't think.

00:18:25.200 They obey, but they don't understand.

00:18:27.520 They suffer, but they don't have any idea why.

00:18:30.560 A society without any kind of critical thinking is not a society.

00:18:36.340 It is nothing more than a herd of cattle.

00:18:38.900 But if critical thinking is found again, then truth rises again, even when it's uncomfortable.

00:18:48.680 Bad ideas die in the light of scrutiny and thinking and questioning.

00:18:53.780 And the powerful, once again, fear accountability.

00:18:57.620 There is no accountability because we're not asking critical questions.

00:19:03.080 Citizens, if you ask critical questions and you engage in critical thinking, citizens become participants again and not spectators to their own demise.

00:19:13.660 Debates begin again and would sharpen our minds rather than just destroy reputations.

00:19:19.780 And liberty has a fighting chance again because a thinking people is a free people.

00:19:25.760 So let me just take one minute to break, and then we're going to come back and ask some questions about what's really going on here.

00:19:33.480 What should we really be thinking about when we look at what's happening to our borders and the people who have arrived and we're taking in because we're so compassionate?

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00:21:45.280 Okay, so let's look at some of the questions that we should be asking.

00:22:01.860 I mean, first of all, when you look at the border crisis, when you look at what's happening in our countries, what do you see?

00:22:08.420 You see old women and young children? 0.99

00:22:12.260 No.

00:22:12.820 You see young men.

00:22:14.020 Men in their prime.

00:22:15.140 No wives. 0.99

00:22:15.760 No daughters.

00:22:16.340 No elders.

00:22:17.220 Just young men. 0.94

00:22:18.940 So the question is, the first question is, where are the women and the children?

00:22:22.720 Did they just leave them behind?

00:22:24.580 And if so, what does that say about the character of the men who are coming here?

00:22:28.740 And from there, the questions get a little harder and more important.

00:22:31.880 If these men are indeed fleeing Islamist extremism, why do they arrive in the West and fight for Islamist principles? 0.66

00:22:40.840 Let's look at Venezuelans. 0.99

00:22:43.420 If they really are escaping persecution and trouble and death cults in Venezuela, why do they come here and try to take over neighborhoods and threaten death and join cultish-like gangs?

00:23:01.280 The Islamists, why do they demand Sharia law? 1.00

00:23:04.460 Why do they attack Jewish citizens? 0.98

00:23:06.440 Why do they march through London and Paris and Denmark screaming, death to Israel? 0.59

00:23:11.740 If they're truly victims of radical Islam, why do they become the ambassadors to radical Islam the moment they resettle? 0.91

00:23:25.160 That doesn't make sense, does it?

00:23:27.560 And if they're seeking freedom, why do they wish to dismantle ours?

00:23:34.200 Here's another one.

00:23:35.320 Why are nearly all Western nations, from Canada to Germany to the United States, responding exactly the same way?

00:23:42.560 Same immigration policies, same laws, same slogans, same censorship, same framing in the media.

00:23:49.020 In some cases, word for word in the laws and the headlines.

00:23:53.880 If this isn't coordinated, how do you explain that?

00:23:57.900 More in a minute.

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00:24:01.180 If you own a home, there's a good chance you've got a checklist of projects that you'll get to someday.

00:24:07.900 You know, one of these days I'm going to get to that.

00:24:09.500 Maybe it's the guest room, maybe it's the garage, maybe it's the gutters.

00:24:12.160 But let me tell you, gutters don't belong on the, I got to get around to that someday list.

00:24:17.360 Because when they fail, they just don't make a mess.

00:24:20.040 They can wreck your roof, your siding, your foundation.

00:24:22.420 I have, up at the ranch, I put these, we have barnwood siding on the side of the ranch.

00:24:28.540 And one of the gutters went, because it was all stuffed up.

00:24:33.180 I wasn't paying attention.

00:24:34.380 I wasn't around.

00:24:35.560 And I get there and all of this, the siding is just destroyed.

00:24:40.080 Last summer I get up there and it's all destroyed.

00:24:43.040 Why?

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00:25:22.040 You know, so I've issued this question to the Anti-Defamation League every day since the shooting in Colorado.

00:25:45.260 I was called a danger, an extremist, a radical, strangely an anti-Semite for warning the Jews of America, and anybody who likes Jews,

00:25:58.440 that we should probably stand up and stop the road that we're going on because Marxism and radicalism and anti-Semitism, they always seem to go, you know, hand in hand.

00:26:15.040 When you're against the West, when you're against the Western values, when you're claiming that America is an evil place, usually Israel is an evil place too, and anti-Semitism creeps in.

00:26:28.600 And I warned that we would see the exact kind of hatreds that we saw on the streets in Germany and Europe in the 1930s.

00:26:36.660 We'd see them here on the streets of America.

00:26:38.700 And the Anti-Defamation League said that I was a fearmonger and a hater and an anti-Semite.

00:26:44.720 And I've asked every day, and I'm still waiting for a question, Anti-Defamation League.

00:26:49.260 Tell me, you want to retract that?

00:26:52.560 Do you want to say, when I said, you have to truly remember.

00:26:57.760 I mean, never forget, right?

00:26:59.160 To truly remember, and the reason why you don't forget is you don't say, I always want to remember the oven doors closing.

00:27:08.580 You say, I want to remember so I can remember the seeds when they were planted and what watered those seeds so I can pull that up from the root the minute it sprouts.

00:27:20.960 Never forget doesn't mean let's remember the Holocaust. 0.88

00:27:24.160 It means let's remember what leads to the Holocaust so we can stop it. 1.00

00:27:29.880 But somehow or another, that was too radical for the Anti-Defamation League.

00:27:33.940 What do you say about it now?

00:27:35.720 What do you say about it now that it's here on our streets?

00:27:38.940 I'd just like to know. 0.94

00:27:40.640 Am I still a crazy extremist that hates Jews somehow or another? 0.86

00:27:47.040 Here's the questions that we have to ask. 0.71

00:27:49.060 If we are going to solve anything, we have to start using critical thinking again.

00:27:54.960 A, why are so few women and children among the refugee populations that are coming into all of our countries?

00:28:02.140 What ideologies do these young men have when they're coming into our country?

00:28:06.260 And why are they not being vetted or challenged?

00:28:08.960 Why does no one seem to care?

00:28:11.140 Why do refugees from Islamist regimes hold so many anti-Semitic or anti-Western beliefs when they get here?

00:28:21.940 And why do they not change when they're in their host country?

00:28:26.000 Why are Western media outlets using nearly identical language to describe all of these events?

00:28:34.280 Why do they use almost exactly the same language and tactics to dismantle anyone like me who questions these events?

00:28:44.080 And who's coordinating that narrative?

00:28:46.140 Because, gosh, I just don't think that it's happening almost word for word in laws and media reports exactly the same in 40 different languages.

00:28:57.240 It's weird.

00:28:58.880 Is there any relationship, any relationship at all, with the rise of anti-Semitism in any of this?

00:29:07.700 Because that's a weird one.

00:29:21.160 I can't question in a culture that holds free speech up as one of the highest ideals, but in a law-abiding society and one where we have blind justice or supposed to have, the extremist behaviors, they're not punished, but me questioning, I am.

00:29:45.640 That's weird.

00:29:46.840 Can anybody explain that one?

00:29:48.260 Why are the same open border policies being adopted simultaneously across every Western nation, regardless of party leadership?

00:29:57.400 Why is that happening?

00:29:59.080 If the refugees claim persecution, why do they persecute others once they arrive, particularly the Jews, the Christians, women, and gays?

00:30:10.440 Let me ask you this when you're speaking of women.

00:30:12.480 Listen, the views of these guys and what they have, their view of women, how does that fit in a liberal society?

00:30:22.120 How does a society who says they care about women dismiss and ignore the views of the men who literally look at women like something they can rape and do?

00:30:39.360 Let me ask you this, what would the world look like if these millions of young men stayed behind to fight for their countries instead of abandoning them and apparently their mothers and their wives and their children, their sisters?

00:30:53.860 Can I ask you this question, is compassion being manipulated as a weapon against Western stability?

00:31:03.680 I mean, don't you think these questions should be asked and then answered?

00:31:11.020 They do seem like good questions.

00:31:14.580 Questions that maybe should be asked and answered before you import many people who have very questionable answers to them.

00:31:21.840 But I guess that implies that your goal is to protect Jews.

00:31:32.120 Your goal is to protect innocent people.

00:31:35.540 I was going to say, Jews, I'd like to protect all people.

00:31:39.140 Yeah, if your goal is not to protect innocent people, if your goal is instead seemingly to wipe Jews off the planet, which again is a pretty significant chunk of the Democratic Party at this point. 0.78

00:31:58.340 I can give you the names of the representatives when we said them many, many times.

00:32:01.960 These are the people that were cheering on the pro-Palestinian movement on October 8th.

00:32:09.080 Now, look, if you wanted to, if you watched that and were horrified by October 7th and talked about it over and over again, and then, I don't know, in December, you were like, you know, as much as you have to do something here if you're Israel, I'm a little concerned about how this is playing out. 0.89

00:32:28.400 There's some sympathy you could have with an argument.

00:32:30.560 You could have an argument about, hey, I feel really bad for the people in Gaza who had nothing to do with this and are suffering right now.

00:32:38.880 Of course, that's an idea you could talk about.

00:32:42.160 I do.

00:32:42.840 Yeah, but you can't, you don't get any sympathy for that argument when you were trying to make it on October 8th before the military even went in.

00:32:52.500 When you were protesting and acting like you were just criticizing Israel the day after they watched a thousand plus of their people murdered and raped for no reason whatsoever.

00:33:08.460 That's not a day to jump into the movement on the pro-Palestinian side.

00:33:12.160 I'm sorry.

00:33:12.560 So let me, let me give you this, Stu.

00:33:16.720 You just tell me how this, just tell me how this ends.

00:33:20.140 If you look at the MI5 terror watch list in England, okay, Great Britain, on MI5's terror watch list, there are 43,000 individuals, okay?

00:33:36.780 90% of them are jihadis.

00:33:43.240 90% of the 43,000 people that are on the terror watch list are jihadis.

00:33:50.880 Now let's, let's think about this for a second.

00:33:54.020 Is that a problem if you're Great Britain?

00:33:56.760 Well, 40,000, well, 40,000 people is larger than the entire size of Hamas on April 7th.

00:34:07.400 40,000 is larger than the entire size of the ISIS army that launched the attack on Iraq.

00:34:15.800 40,000 is half the size of the British army.

00:34:20.280 I don't know.

00:34:22.760 I think I have a, I think I'd have a problem if I were English.

00:34:25.640 And you know what?

00:34:26.500 That number is bigger here.

00:34:31.480 Uh, that, that, that just seems to be, I don't know, a little disturbing.

00:34:38.240 What does that tell you about the, use critical thinking.

00:34:43.040 If it's half the size of the British army, if they're on the streets, if they're already organized,

00:34:49.020 if there's already no go zones, if the government is already afraid of them,

00:34:54.360 if they're losing control of the streets, if politicians are turning a blind eye to the rape of their own population,

00:35:04.380 what does that tell you about the shape Great Britain is going to be in, in a very short period of time?

00:35:13.840 And they're still letting people in, by the way.

00:35:16.000 Let me give you this.

00:35:18.180 Does this sound unreasonable to you, Stu?

00:35:20.780 If I came up with 10 points on immigration that has to be done, that has to be done right now. 0.97

00:35:27.700 Let's say I'm in Great Britain or I'm in, I don't know, I'm in the Netherlands where, you know,

00:35:33.760 the population is very small and millions of people have come in.

00:35:37.500 If I said, look, we have to do these 10 things, we have to halt asylum admissions right now because we don't even know who's in here.

00:35:46.060 We have to deploy our military at our borders so no one can come in without authorization. 0.72

00:35:52.280 We have to close the asylum centers that are now welcoming people in as reception centers and giving everybody things that they can live on and giving them hotels and everything else. 1.00

00:36:11.140 We have to stop the family reunification thing.

00:36:15.560 Look, if you're a guy in 20 and now you say, I want my family here.

00:36:21.000 No, we cannot take any more because we don't know even who everybody is.

00:36:25.940 If you started saying, you know what, this particular group in, let's say you're in Europe, Syrians, this is a very dangerous group and they are now coming in and causing real problems. 1.00

00:36:44.000 We have to deport the Syrian nationals, okay? 1.00

00:36:48.320 Or at least we have to say one strike policy.

00:36:51.720 You get in trouble once and you're out.

00:36:55.940 We're going to evict you from the, you know, five-star hotels and the food that we've given you because you've been here now for a while and you don't seem to be assimilating.

00:37:05.080 You don't seem to be doing anything but taking.

00:37:07.820 We're going to, we're not going to build any new facilities.

00:37:10.660 We're going to evict you from these.

00:37:13.340 We're going to revoke any national or dual nationality. 1.00

00:37:18.100 If you're convicted of a serious crime, you lose the dual nationality. 0.52

00:37:25.940 We're also going to withdraw from any international convention that says we have to do this.

00:37:33.440 And then we want some legal reforms here to facilitate the deportations.

00:37:38.000 We're not going to get bogged down.

00:37:39.260 We have taken millions of people in.

00:37:41.660 Crime is out of control.

00:37:42.760 We have lost control of our streets.

00:37:45.100 And we need the court system to facilitate the deportations of people who are criminals.

00:37:54.420 Do you think any of those are reasonable?

00:37:59.080 Sure.

00:37:59.780 There's some common sense in many of them, yeah.

00:38:03.900 Okay.

00:38:04.160 So this is what Geert Wielder's, the leader of the Dutch Party for Freedom, he introduced the 10-point immigration plan.

00:38:12.800 And this has set the country on fire.

00:38:16.780 And I don't think necessarily with the regular folk, maybe it does, but it set the country on fire.

00:38:23.440 All, everybody, I mean, he has withdrawn.

00:38:25.720 His party was the largest part of the ruling coalition.

00:38:31.240 And they just pulled out because everybody else said, nope, we're not doing any of those.

00:38:35.940 What do you mean you're not doing any of those?

00:38:37.400 Have you seen the streets?

00:38:40.300 And they say that Geert, because it's an extreme position.

00:38:44.520 No, no.

00:38:45.620 There's a difference between common sense.

00:38:47.760 And the longer you reject common sense, the more extreme the answer will be.

00:38:55.080 There's a difference between extremism and common sense.

00:38:58.780 And the only reason why common sense turns into extremism is because you continually deny common sense.

00:39:06.360 And you say that anybody who believes in common sense is an extremist.

00:39:11.000 And then what happens?

00:39:12.220 Because those people have been isolated and been told all of your values are evil.

00:39:18.180 When those values are the values that built the nation, then you have unscrupulous people stand up who don't have the nation's best interest,

00:39:30.120 who don't have freedom, as we all like to enjoy, at the top of their list of things.

00:39:37.740 They come and say, you know what?

00:39:39.300 You're not.

00:39:39.900 You're not wrong.

00:39:41.060 You're not wrong.

00:39:41.940 I'm with you.

00:39:43.180 But they add a few other things that are extreme.

00:39:48.180 That's how a country grows extremists.

00:39:52.620 And unless we can ask questions, not be shouted down, not be in Europe, not be thrown in jail for asking questions or questioning the authority or saying,

00:40:06.100 wait a minute, that doesn't make any sense.

00:40:08.420 You're going to grow extremists and Gert wielders will be the least of your problems. 1.00

00:40:15.360 You will pine for the days when you thought Gert wielders was your biggest problem. 0.99

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00:46:55.540 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:47:02.180 So where is all of this extremism coming from?

00:47:06.200 Usual suspects.

00:47:07.360 There is a new report out about the usual suspects.

00:47:13.920 Steve Jobs, former wife. 0.60

00:47:17.820 Some real Democrat heavyweights, including Eric Schmidt

00:47:23.360 and the Tides Foundation

00:47:25.080 that are calling the black liberation activists

00:47:32.840 that called the Jewish Museum shooting

00:47:36.580 morally righteous.

00:47:37.660 They're funding them and so much more.

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00:49:13.340 So let me tell you,

00:49:15.400 this is what happens when powerful people write checks

00:49:18.560 and the rest of us stay silent.

00:49:21.760 Earlier this week,

00:49:22.820 a report came out quietly, of course,

00:49:24.960 that Lorene Powell Jobs, 1.00

00:49:28.040 Eric Schmidt,

00:49:29.180 and the Tides Foundation

00:49:30.500 has given millions of dollars

00:49:32.700 to a man who openly praised

00:49:35.240 the assassination of two Israeli diplomats

00:49:37.740 in Washington, D.C.,

00:49:38.740 he called that shooting morally righteous,

00:49:42.260 not tragic,

00:49:43.040 not wrong,

00:49:44.020 not even controversial,

00:49:45.900 morally righteous.

00:49:47.380 Now, the people giving this man money

00:49:53.660 are not nobodies.

00:49:55.160 They're not on the fringe.

00:49:56.160 It's not some anarchist

00:49:57.500 with a megaphone in a parking lot in Oregon.

00:49:59.960 This is Camus Franklin.

00:50:04.240 He's the head of a nonprofit

00:50:05.480 called Community Movement Builders,

00:50:08.800 and the work is being funded

00:50:10.600 by some of the richest people

00:50:12.140 in Silicon Valley

00:50:13.180 and the Democratic donor class.

00:50:15.600 Now, I just want you to remember,

00:50:17.900 when I give you the name Jobs,

00:50:21.040 what do you think of?

00:50:22.220 Steve Jobs,

00:50:23.120 what did he do?

00:50:24.180 Silicon Valley,

00:50:25.580 tech.

00:50:26.360 When I talk to you about Eric Schmidt,

00:50:28.920 what does he do?

00:50:30.680 AI.

00:50:33.200 So these people are now

00:50:35.200 the former CEO of Google,

00:50:37.480 plus the Arabella Network,

00:50:39.180 we know that,

00:50:39.760 the Tides Foundation,

00:50:41.140 all Soros-backed organizations.

00:50:44.580 When they put their money,

00:50:48.060 nearly $2 million in one year,

00:50:50.900 went to this guy's group,

00:50:52.740 a group that calls Israeli existence

00:50:55.280 the result of a war crime 0.85

00:50:57.460 who has labeled police 1.00

00:50:59.860 as killer pigs 1.00

00:51:01.380 and praises black separatists 1.00

00:51:03.880 convicted of murdering cops. 0.99

00:51:06.060 When they send their money

00:51:07.940 to that guy

00:51:09.020 and we say nothing,

00:51:11.280 we have a real problem

00:51:12.360 because what else are they doing

00:51:13.620 to our tech?

00:51:14.540 What else are they writing

00:51:15.540 into the algorithms?

00:51:17.540 Who else is involved?

00:51:18.740 These are just big names

00:51:19.760 that are openly doing it,

00:51:21.120 and they don't seem

00:51:22.140 to have a problem.

00:51:22.760 What about all the other people

00:51:24.340 in Silicon Valley?

00:51:26.620 And now that group,

00:51:27.600 that ideology,

00:51:28.740 is being funded

00:51:29.700 with institutional backing

00:51:31.540 and tax-deductible status.

00:51:33.760 These are people

00:51:34.600 that are now writing

00:51:35.580 the curriculum for your kids,

00:51:37.500 influencing the elections,

00:51:39.360 hosting panels on AI

00:51:41.660 and equity and justice

00:51:43.440 at all of the universities.

00:51:45.040 Now, I hate this.

00:51:48.980 I really do.

00:51:49.620 I hate this.

00:51:50.640 And I'm not going

00:51:51.380 to where you think

00:51:51.960 I'm going on this,

00:51:52.700 but if this were a conservative

00:51:53.880 or Republican,

00:51:55.040 a donor group

00:51:56.320 that funded a group

00:51:57.860 that said something

00:51:58.680 half as inflammatory as this,

00:52:00.780 even vaguely racist

00:52:02.740 or violent,

00:52:03.820 what would the media do?

00:52:06.400 Okay?

00:52:06.660 They would nuke

00:52:07.500 their reputations

00:52:08.940 from orbit.

00:52:10.360 They would cancel

00:52:11.140 the companies.

00:52:11.800 They would demand

00:52:12.520 congressional hearings.

00:52:13.760 And you know what?

00:52:16.460 That is about the level

00:52:17.960 of where it should be.

00:52:19.880 If you were talking 0.86

00:52:21.280 about killing cops, 0.97

00:52:25.100 praising people, 1.00

00:52:26.860 shooting others 0.76

00:52:27.860 in the street 1.00

00:52:28.580 because they're Jewish

00:52:29.820 and saying it's morally,

00:52:32.160 what did he say?

00:52:32.940 Morally justified?

00:52:36.480 Morally righteous.

00:52:38.340 If you could say

00:52:39.260 morally righteous,

00:52:41.260 you know,

00:52:42.200 I think we should.

00:52:43.320 We should question you,

00:52:45.060 your business,

00:52:46.420 everything else.

00:52:47.620 And I don't mean

00:52:48.180 as a government.

00:52:48.940 I mean as people.

00:52:51.120 Okay?

00:52:54.420 But what happens

00:52:55.420 if the same poison

00:52:56.620 comes from the approved side?

00:52:59.420 Nothing.

00:52:59.980 Silence.

00:53:01.000 Sometimes applause.

00:53:03.220 Sometimes more donations.

00:53:05.180 Franklin's group

00:53:08.000 defended the killing

00:53:09.280 of Israeli civilians.

00:53:14.920 Hmm.

00:53:15.880 Now they praised

00:53:17.140 the killing

00:53:17.660 of Israeli civilians

00:53:18.780 in the same breath

00:53:20.160 they praised

00:53:20.820 Qasem Soleimani,

00:53:22.840 the Iranian general

00:53:24.080 responsible for the deaths

00:53:25.280 of countless U.S. troops.

00:53:27.340 They called him

00:53:28.200 simply a resister,

00:53:30.140 a man who strengthened

00:53:31.440 Hezbollah.

00:53:32.300 If you don't know

00:53:33.920 what Hezbollah is, 1.00

00:53:36.080 you're a moron. 1.00

00:53:38.920 You're no, 1.00

00:53:39.440 you're dangerous. 0.96

00:53:40.680 You are dangerous.

00:53:43.660 How did we get here?

00:53:45.920 How is this suddenly

00:53:47.120 acceptable in our society?

00:53:52.600 More importantly,

00:53:53.700 how is it that some

00:53:54.940 of the most important

00:53:56.140 and powerful figures

00:53:57.260 in tech and media

00:53:58.640 are funding it?

00:54:02.360 You know,

00:54:03.040 it's really hard

00:54:03.960 to hide behind

00:54:05.180 the word justice

00:54:06.140 when you cheer

00:54:06.840 for murder.

00:54:08.680 But they don't see

00:54:09.600 it as murder.

00:54:11.000 They see it as

00:54:12.180 morally justified.

00:54:15.100 That guy was running

00:54:16.460 an insurance company

00:54:17.680 and that insurance company

00:54:19.080 was probably denying

00:54:20.820 people some claims

00:54:22.020 so we can gun him 0.86

00:54:23.100 down in the streets. 0.99

00:54:24.140 You can't talk

00:54:26.260 about justice

00:54:27.500 if you're cheering

00:54:28.380 that on.

00:54:28.880 You can't talk

00:54:29.460 about unity

00:54:30.200 when you're bankrolling

00:54:31.680 separatists.

00:54:33.180 You can't scream

00:54:34.340 fascism

00:54:35.220 and then fun

00:54:36.060 a man who wants

00:54:36.920 racial enclaves,

00:54:38.820 state control

00:54:39.600 of speech,

00:54:40.560 or the abolition

00:54:42.140 of the nuclear family.

00:54:45.200 Don't talk to me

00:54:45.860 about totalitarian.

00:54:46.820 You don't even know

00:54:47.400 what it means.

00:54:51.420 That's not progress.

00:54:52.580 That's not equity.

00:54:54.740 It's not even politics.

00:54:57.120 This is the

00:54:58.040 intentional destabilization

00:54:59.740 of a country

00:55:01.240 using the language

00:55:02.280 of compassion

00:55:03.220 to smuggle in

00:55:04.700 extremism.

00:55:06.500 That's kind of

00:55:07.300 the theme of today's show.

00:55:08.980 Extremism.

00:55:09.620 How did we get here?

00:55:10.880 Why are we tolerating

00:55:12.040 what's happening

00:55:12.640 in our own streets?

00:55:15.400 The question is

00:55:16.460 not why is this happening.

00:55:19.540 The question really is

00:55:21.060 at this point

00:55:21.580 why are we letting

00:55:23.000 it happen?

00:55:26.020 Why are we,

00:55:27.060 the citizen,

00:55:28.120 the journalist,

00:55:28.800 the lawmaker,

00:55:29.700 still quiet

00:55:30.740 about all of this?

00:55:32.920 Why is the

00:55:33.960 White House

00:55:34.600 silent when a top

00:55:35.680 Democratic donor

00:55:36.440 gives money to a group

00:55:37.840 that calls Hamas' 0.86

00:55:38.900 attack

00:55:39.260 solidarity?

00:55:40.120 Why is the

00:55:42.340 Department of Justice

00:55:43.260 looking the other way

00:55:44.100 when the tax-exempt

00:55:45.780 organizations

00:55:46.620 support racial

00:55:48.540 separatism

00:55:49.500 and endorse

00:55:50.580 convicted cop

00:55:51.520 killers as role

00:55:52.780 models?

00:55:53.940 Should they play

00:55:54.920 a role?

00:55:56.620 And here's the

00:55:57.620 biggest

00:55:58.040 question

00:55:59.700 really of all.

00:56:01.060 What happens

00:56:01.480 to a civilization

00:56:02.280 who forgets

00:56:03.920 to say,

00:56:04.440 no,

00:56:05.540 no,

00:56:06.220 no,

00:56:06.380 no,

00:56:06.880 it's not righteous

00:56:09.780 to murder civilians.

00:56:10.900 No,

00:56:11.400 it's not justice

00:56:12.140 to fund

00:56:12.620 hate

00:56:13.100 with billionaire

00:56:13.840 checks.

00:56:14.840 No,

00:56:15.140 it's not brave

00:56:16.040 to remain silent

00:56:17.080 when cancer

00:56:17.780 is growing.

00:56:21.200 What happens

00:56:21.940 to that civilization?

00:56:23.480 Because this is not

00:56:24.580 a partisan issue,

00:56:25.320 and I know,

00:56:25.840 you know,

00:56:26.120 this is the worst

00:56:26.720 part of my job,

00:56:28.140 I think,

00:56:29.200 is I am very

00:56:29.940 opinionated,

00:56:30.620 obviously,

00:56:31.060 if you've listened

00:56:31.520 to me.

00:56:31.820 And I get

00:56:34.640 hammered

00:56:36.040 from all sides.

00:56:36.960 You know,

00:56:37.160 I always wish

00:56:38.100 on Hannity

00:56:38.680 yesterday,

00:56:39.880 and we were

00:56:41.360 talking to a group,

00:56:42.320 and he said,

00:56:43.120 you know,

00:56:43.380 I'm glad to be

00:56:44.420 here with Glenn

00:56:44.920 Beck,

00:56:45.220 who,

00:56:45.880 you know,

00:56:46.180 in 2016,

00:56:46.920 gave me hell 0.86

00:56:48.920 for supporting 0.95

00:56:49.580 Donald Trump.

00:56:50.660 And I'm like,

00:56:52.060 yeah,

00:56:52.300 I did,

00:56:52.720 and I was wrong,

00:56:53.980 and I admitted it.

00:56:55.340 But I'm not

00:56:58.940 a partisan guy.

00:57:00.140 I don't care

00:57:01.100 what the label is.

00:57:02.980 I look for

00:57:04.140 what is right

00:57:04.900 and wrong,

00:57:05.560 and when somebody

00:57:07.060 like Donald Trump

00:57:07.800 did not have

00:57:08.980 the record,

00:57:10.200 I wasn't willing

00:57:11.300 to trust,

00:57:12.040 and maybe that's

00:57:12.640 a flaw in me,

00:57:14.080 but I wasn't

00:57:15.020 willing to trust.

00:57:16.100 I'm sorry.

00:57:17.820 I am a little

00:57:18.840 like Doubting Thomas.

00:57:20.080 I need to put

00:57:20.560 my finger there.

00:57:21.840 I need to see it,

00:57:23.100 but when I saw it,

00:57:24.140 I'm there.

00:57:26.780 Okay.

00:57:29.360 I'm hated

00:57:30.040 by everybody.

00:57:30.660 I have not

00:57:31.240 had a president

00:57:31.900 in my lifetime

00:57:32.840 that liked me,

00:57:33.800 because generally

00:57:34.500 I don't like

00:57:35.100 the presidents.

00:57:38.380 I don't like

00:57:39.300 either party,

00:57:40.380 and yet

00:57:42.340 everything I say

00:57:43.500 is always

00:57:44.600 couched as

00:57:45.640 I'm just a shill

00:57:46.780 for the Republicans

00:57:47.660 or whatever.

00:57:48.680 You know what I am?

00:57:49.620 I'm not even a shill. 0.90

00:57:50.760 You know what I am

00:57:51.660 a fan of?

00:57:52.480 You know what I am

00:57:53.100 a supporter of?

00:57:54.540 The rule of law

00:57:55.780 and the Constitution

00:57:56.760 and the Declaration

00:57:57.460 of Independence,

00:57:58.460 and I actually mean that.

00:57:59.880 I can quote those documents.

00:58:01.780 Most people in politics

00:58:03.080 who say that,

00:58:03.700 they've never read 0.99

00:58:04.400 the damn thing. 0.99

00:58:09.300 It's not a partisan issue. 1.00

00:58:11.200 This is all about

00:58:11.880 right and wrong.

00:58:13.280 It's not left or right.

00:58:15.760 And the longer

00:58:16.600 we pretend otherwise,

00:58:18.080 the faster we're going

00:58:19.060 to descend into something

00:58:20.040 we will not recognize

00:58:21.800 and may not survive.

00:58:26.260 We've got to wake up

00:58:27.580 before we lose

00:58:28.360 our ability

00:58:29.000 and our right

00:58:30.560 to speak.

00:58:31.440 So let me ask you

00:58:37.940 some questions

00:58:38.560 because

00:58:39.240 that's the other thing

00:58:40.480 about today's show

00:58:41.540 is I just want to ask

00:58:42.640 critical thinking questions.

00:58:45.300 Why are the ultra-wealthy

00:58:46.620 elites and tech billionaires

00:58:47.780 funding organizations

00:58:48.880 that openly support

00:58:50.200 political violence

00:58:51.300 and endorse the killing

00:58:52.340 of diplomats? 0.98

00:58:53.700 Shouldn't that be

00:58:54.460 the number one question

00:58:55.600 out of every press

00:58:57.040 person's mouth

00:58:57.960 if you run in

00:58:58.940 to Eric Schmidt?

00:59:01.120 If you run into

00:59:02.180 Mrs. Jobs,

00:59:03.640 the Tides Foundation,

00:59:05.320 why do you support

00:59:06.860 political violence

00:59:08.200 and endorse the killing

00:59:09.760 of diplomats

00:59:10.820 on our streets?

00:59:15.020 Eric Schmidt,

00:59:17.220 Laureen Powell Jobs,

00:59:18.600 Tides Foundation,

00:59:20.080 what do you believe

00:59:20.940 you're achieving

00:59:21.660 by bankrolling

00:59:22.780 community movement builders?

00:59:24.720 What is it

00:59:25.360 that you love about them?

00:59:26.620 Are you aware

00:59:28.080 of their rhetoric?

00:59:29.780 Are you just

00:59:30.160 turning a blind eye

00:59:31.640 because the ends

00:59:32.320 justify the means?

00:59:33.320 That's really

00:59:34.060 an important question.

00:59:35.460 Will somebody

00:59:36.220 ask it or answer it?

00:59:38.740 What accountability

00:59:39.420 exists for the

00:59:40.840 philanthropies

00:59:42.460 that fund groups

00:59:43.900 promoting violence

00:59:44.940 or separatism?

00:59:45.940 Is there any

00:59:46.940 accountability?

00:59:47.800 Because I knew

00:59:48.180 there would be with me.

00:59:52.260 Why does the

00:59:53.300 community movement

00:59:54.060 builders call

00:59:55.160 murder of diplomats

00:59:56.180 morally righteous?

00:59:57.920 And how does that

00:59:59.220 square with broader

01:00:00.560 liberal or humanitarian

01:00:01.760 values?

01:00:04.240 If your goals

01:00:05.380 are liberation

01:00:07.280 and justice,

01:00:08.380 why do you glorify

01:00:10.220 terrorist leaders

01:00:11.080 and groups that

01:00:12.260 have committed

01:00:12.680 atrocities?

01:00:15.640 What does it mean

01:00:16.780 for a U.S.-based

01:00:17.680 nonprofit to call

01:00:18.760 for liberated zones

01:00:20.260 under separate

01:00:21.380 racial governance?

01:00:22.580 Is this inclusion

01:00:24.300 or is it segregation

01:00:25.520 under just a

01:00:26.460 different name?

01:00:27.960 If an ideology

01:00:28.920 calls for

01:00:29.940 collective racial

01:00:31.400 control of resources

01:00:32.780 and defines police 1.00

01:00:34.320 as killer pigs, 0.99

01:00:36.100 is that promoting 0.97

01:00:37.600 civic unity

01:00:38.560 or justice?

01:00:40.960 And again,

01:00:41.920 why are the

01:00:42.680 Silicon Valley people

01:00:43.660 pouring millions

01:00:45.320 of dollars in

01:00:45.960 to promote that?

01:00:46.740 Why are groups

01:00:53.200 this extreme

01:00:54.600 receiving significant

01:00:56.280 democratic donor

01:00:57.200 support,

01:00:57.960 especially when their

01:00:59.120 rhetoric goes beyond

01:01:00.100 protest into open

01:01:01.280 support for political

01:01:02.340 violence and separatism?

01:01:03.660 How far from the

01:01:05.660 traditional democratic

01:01:06.520 platform are these

01:01:07.660 ideas?

01:01:08.540 I mean,

01:01:09.280 the party,

01:01:10.000 you don't seem to be

01:01:10.960 distancing yourself

01:01:12.020 from it.

01:01:13.020 In fact,

01:01:13.320 you seem to quietly

01:01:14.400 embrace this

01:01:15.620 and it's getting

01:01:16.680 louder.

01:01:17.320 Your quiet is starting 0.89

01:01:18.240 to get a little

01:01:18.920 loud.

01:01:21.400 What do the dark

01:01:22.280 money networks

01:01:23.160 like Arabella

01:01:24.020 play in shaping

01:01:25.020 the grassroots

01:01:25.680 movement with

01:01:26.440 potentially extreme

01:01:27.720 ideologies?

01:01:28.760 Is anybody

01:01:29.300 looking into that?

01:01:31.060 Are politicians

01:01:31.880 like Kamala Harris

01:01:33.200 or Raphael

01:01:34.320 Warnock aware

01:01:35.760 of the full

01:01:36.320 nature of the

01:01:36.980 groups being

01:01:37.580 funded through

01:01:38.300 PACs and networks

01:01:39.320 aligned with

01:01:40.580 them?

01:01:45.140 Why is there so

01:01:46.120 little media

01:01:46.720 scrutiny of these

01:01:47.560 connections compared

01:01:48.420 to the other

01:01:48.980 political funding

01:01:49.920 controversies?

01:01:51.220 Why is anti-Semitism

01:01:52.160 tolerated or

01:01:53.220 overlooked when it

01:01:53.940 comes from far

01:01:54.680 left or minority

01:01:55.600 focused groups?

01:01:56.600 I just don't know.

01:01:57.820 Why does

01:01:58.280 mainstream media,

01:01:59.460 the outlets,

01:02:00.520 including those

01:02:01.140 owned by donors

01:02:01.880 like the Atlantic,

01:02:03.200 fail to report

01:02:04.520 critically on any

01:02:05.680 of these stories?

01:02:07.920 Is the public

01:02:09.020 being misled by

01:02:09.940 selective coverage

01:02:10.920 or the avoidance

01:02:11.740 of topics that

01:02:12.500 might expose

01:02:13.240 contradictions in

01:02:14.140 elite or party

01:02:15.100 narratives?

01:02:16.040 I just...

01:02:18.200 Is any of this

01:02:22.700 coordinated?

01:02:24.580 Why are so many

01:02:25.780 elite donors,

01:02:26.600 media owners,

01:02:27.440 NGOs,

01:02:28.160 echoing the same

01:02:29.040 talking points and

01:02:30.080 funding overlapping

01:02:31.640 causes?

01:02:33.380 What happens to

01:02:34.820 a republic,

01:02:37.000 a democratic

01:02:37.760 society,

01:02:38.480 when billionaires,

01:02:39.580 tech moguls,

01:02:40.720 and activist

01:02:41.360 groups openly

01:02:42.460 fund radical

01:02:44.440 ideological

01:02:45.200 movements that

01:02:46.020 seek to

01:02:46.680 dismantle all

01:02:47.860 of the existing

01:02:48.560 legal and social

01:02:49.460 structures?

01:02:50.180 What happens

01:02:51.380 to that society?

01:02:52.540 I think these

01:02:55.260 are questions

01:02:56.040 that maybe we

01:02:56.660 should spend

01:02:57.100 some time

01:02:57.560 answering.

01:02:58.720 I think these

01:02:59.120 are some

01:02:59.380 questions that

01:03:00.040 maybe somebody

01:03:00.860 as a journalist

01:03:02.020 should be

01:03:04.180 asking people

01:03:05.500 of power,

01:03:06.520 people in

01:03:06.980 Silicon Valley,

01:03:08.100 people who are

01:03:08.720 billionaires that

01:03:09.660 are donating

01:03:10.220 to these very

01:03:11.640 radical groups.

01:03:15.180 Or are we just

01:03:16.020 going to play

01:03:16.340 politics again?

01:03:17.320 Yeah, let's just

01:03:17.980 play politics today

01:03:18.960 again, media.

01:03:20.080 You're so good at it,

01:03:21.260 let's just do that.

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01:05:00.800 What's at the

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01:05:24.900 major threat

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01:05:32.300 slash Glenn Beck.

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01:05:35.800 9 p.m.

01:05:37.280 I don't know

01:05:38.020 if you saw

01:05:38.500 this,

01:05:38.780 but two

01:05:39.200 researchers

01:05:39.900 that were

01:05:41.360 both from

01:05:42.540 China,

01:05:44.460 allegedly

01:05:45.360 receiving

01:05:46.000 funding from

01:05:47.140 the Chinese

01:05:47.700 government for

01:05:48.460 their research,

01:05:49.480 citizens of the

01:05:50.720 people,

01:05:51.060 Republic of

01:05:51.660 China.

01:05:52.060 They just

01:05:52.980 charged these

01:05:53.580 two Chinese

01:05:54.320 researchers,

01:05:55.020 the Department

01:05:55.380 of Justice

01:05:55.820 did,

01:05:56.320 with attempting

01:05:56.860 to smuggle

01:05:57.680 a fungus into

01:05:58.840 the United

01:05:59.240 States,

01:06:00.260 dubbed

01:06:00.680 Fusarium

01:06:02.400 Grammarium,

01:06:04.060 I think.

01:06:06.180 This is a

01:06:07.260 fungus that

01:06:08.200 has been

01:06:08.500 classified as

01:06:09.180 a potential

01:06:09.740 agro-terrorism

01:06:10.960 weapon.

01:06:12.600 Apparently,

01:06:13.540 it will

01:06:14.920 kill crops

01:06:16.040 like nobody's 0.97

01:06:17.220 business,

01:06:17.620 and they were

01:06:18.160 smuggling it

01:06:18.780 in just to do

01:06:19.460 some research

01:06:19.960 on it.

01:06:20.620 Ah, you know,

01:06:21.060 we've seen when

01:06:21.740 China does 0.95

01:06:22.260 research on

01:06:22.900 things,

01:06:23.180 it doesn't

01:06:23.600 usually end

01:06:24.420 up.

01:06:25.160 Now,

01:06:25.940 these two

01:06:26.500 researchers

01:06:27.140 supposedly

01:06:28.540 were dating,

01:06:32.040 they come to

01:06:32.580 the United

01:06:32.880 States,

01:06:33.260 they go into

01:06:33.900 Detroit,

01:06:34.440 and they lied

01:06:35.920 to the

01:06:37.040 officers,

01:06:38.240 you know,

01:06:38.580 at the airport

01:06:39.120 about the

01:06:39.920 fungus.

01:06:40.940 He said,

01:06:41.620 boy, I don't

01:06:42.000 know how

01:06:42.360 this, you

01:06:43.000 know,

01:06:43.100 the guy,

01:06:43.420 I don't

01:06:43.680 know how

01:06:44.000 this ended

01:06:44.660 up in my

01:06:45.160 luggage.

01:06:45.880 Really?

01:06:46.620 This just

01:06:47.080 wrapped

01:06:48.160 fungus just

01:06:49.520 is in the

01:06:50.080 middle of

01:06:50.380 your luggage

01:06:50.800 and you

01:06:50.980 have no

01:06:51.460 idea.

01:06:52.400 He later

01:06:53.060 admitted to

01:06:53.580 putting it

01:06:53.960 in his

01:06:54.240 bag and

01:06:54.720 wrapping it

01:06:55.480 carefully to

01:06:56.080 avoid detection

01:06:56.840 because he

01:06:57.360 knew it was

01:06:57.920 restricted.

01:06:58.540 By the

01:06:59.440 way,

01:07:00.320 they're not

01:07:01.140 just Chinese

01:07:01.860 nationals,

01:07:02.940 they're loyal

01:07:03.940 members of

01:07:04.560 the Chinese

01:07:05.100 Communist Party.

01:07:08.200 So,

01:07:09.280 what's

01:07:10.060 happening?

01:07:11.320 Why are

01:07:11.840 they bringing

01:07:12.260 in a terror

01:07:13.020 weapon for

01:07:14.200 our agriculture?

01:07:16.000 And how

01:07:17.580 much more

01:07:19.000 is going

01:07:19.820 on?

01:07:21.600 Do you

01:07:22.520 really,

01:07:23.040 politicians,

01:07:23.800 want to

01:07:24.360 defend our

01:07:24.960 open borders?

01:07:26.300 Do you

01:07:26.520 really?

01:07:27.460 Because I

01:07:28.200 don't think

01:07:28.420 it's going

01:07:28.660 to work

01:07:28.920 out for

01:07:29.400 us or

01:07:30.280 for you

01:07:30.980 in the

01:07:31.440 end.

01:07:32.420 This is

01:07:33.300 Glenn Beck.

01:07:36.980 Ever

01:07:37.340 notice how

01:07:37.700 your body

01:07:38.000 starts

01:07:38.260 negotiating

01:07:38.760 with you?

01:07:39.560 All right,

01:07:39.980 we can go

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01:07:40.520 game,

01:07:40.900 but we're

01:07:41.500 going to

01:07:41.640 pay for

01:07:41.960 it tomorrow.

01:07:42.620 Yeah,

01:07:42.820 sure,

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01:09:13.400 Hey,

01:09:13.960 tonight on

01:09:14.520 the TV,

01:09:16.400 on Blaze

01:09:17.000 TV.

01:09:17.680 Why Trump's

01:09:18.340 war on

01:09:18.860 Harvard is

01:09:19.500 a major

01:09:20.060 threat to

01:09:20.540 elites.

01:09:21.060 Tonight,

01:09:21.380 Blaze TV,

01:09:22.020 9 p.m.

01:09:23.640 I believe

01:09:24.820 Ben Shapiro

01:09:25.900 is joining

01:09:26.400 me tonight

01:09:27.080 from West

01:09:29.880 Palm Beach

01:09:30.460 as I'm here

01:09:31.200 this week.

01:09:32.140 Josh Hammer

01:09:32.720 is joining

01:09:33.120 me now.

01:09:33.580 He is the

01:09:34.440 Newsweek senior

01:09:35.180 editor at

01:09:35.780 large,

01:09:36.420 also the

01:09:36.860 host of

01:09:37.200 The Josh

01:09:37.560 Hammer

01:09:37.800 Show,

01:09:38.300 guy who I

01:09:38.860 just adore.

01:09:39.800 I think he's

01:09:40.060 really,

01:09:40.540 really smart,

01:09:41.020 author of

01:09:41.640 Israel and

01:09:42.420 Civilization.

01:09:43.840 Welcome to

01:09:44.300 the program,

01:09:44.780 Josh.

01:09:45.000 How are you?

01:09:45.460 Glenn,

01:09:47.400 with those

01:09:47.900 enduring words,

01:09:48.820 always a pleasure

01:09:49.240 to join you,

01:09:49.680 my friend.

01:09:50.000 Thank you so

01:09:50.400 much.

01:09:51.740 Thank you.

01:09:53.060 I want to

01:09:53.720 get into

01:09:54.180 some of the

01:09:55.000 stuff that's

01:09:55.360 been happening

01:09:55.840 with Israel,

01:09:57.520 but I think

01:09:58.880 that one of

01:10:01.040 the main

01:10:01.400 causes of

01:10:02.100 this is our

01:10:02.640 universities.

01:10:03.200 and I want

01:10:04.620 to talk to

01:10:05.020 you about

01:10:05.440 Trump's

01:10:06.620 decision to

01:10:07.200 cancel the

01:10:07.940 federal funds

01:10:09.100 and how

01:10:10.700 much of an

01:10:11.100 impact do

01:10:11.580 you think

01:10:11.860 that will

01:10:12.140 have?

01:10:14.460 Look,

01:10:15.020 from my

01:10:15.500 vantage point,

01:10:16.220 Glenn,

01:10:16.720 let's think of

01:10:17.300 it from a

01:10:17.600 U.S.

01:10:17.920 taxpayer

01:10:18.320 perspective.

01:10:19.380 So higher

01:10:20.240 education in

01:10:20.840 America gets 0.92

01:10:21.920 exorbitant

01:10:23.320 largesse from

01:10:24.620 we the people

01:10:25.400 through our

01:10:25.880 Julian

01:10:26.180 elected

01:10:26.440 representatives.

01:10:27.740 So Harvard's

01:10:28.340 endowment,

01:10:28.700 for instance,

01:10:29.140 gets taxed a

01:10:29.860 1.4% rate.

01:10:32.240 1.4%.

01:10:33.920 So you combine

01:10:35.240 that on top

01:10:36.100 of the just

01:10:36.680 straight up

01:10:37.780 billions of

01:10:38.580 dollars in

01:10:39.340 annual appropriations

01:10:40.640 to fund God

01:10:41.640 knows what

01:10:42.080 things.

01:10:42.400 By the way,

01:10:43.360 I think a lot

01:10:43.800 of Americans

01:10:44.200 just didn't

01:10:44.680 realize,

01:10:45.280 actually,

01:10:45.600 the extent to

01:10:46.320 which these

01:10:47.080 universities,

01:10:47.800 Harvard,

01:10:48.160 Columbia,

01:10:48.640 Princeton,

01:10:49.080 et cetera,

01:10:49.840 are just

01:10:50.240 straight up

01:10:50.660 getting not

01:10:51.380 just a

01:10:51.680 favorable tax

01:10:52.420 rate,

01:10:52.720 but hundreds

01:10:53.220 of millions

01:10:53.520 of dollars,

01:10:54.080 billions of

01:10:54.520 dollars in

01:10:55.040 just grants

01:10:56.040 with essentially

01:10:56.980 no strings

01:10:57.620 attached.

01:10:58.580 And then you

01:10:58.840 kind of throw

01:10:59.280 into the

01:10:59.580 equation,

01:11:00.780 the government's

01:11:01.940 monopoly on

01:11:02.500 student loans

01:11:03.340 as well,

01:11:04.040 which incentivizes

01:11:04.860 people to

01:11:05.380 matriculate

01:11:05.880 to the

01:11:06.080 university.

01:11:06.560 So it's a

01:11:07.220 whole toxic

01:11:07.920 stew.

01:11:08.860 And I think

01:11:09.440 the relevant

01:11:09.920 thing to

01:11:10.900 think about,

01:11:11.520 Glenn,

01:11:12.380 I put it in

01:11:13.100 a column about

01:11:13.640 a month and a

01:11:14.040 half ago or

01:11:14.480 so as this

01:11:14.960 fight against

01:11:15.360 Harvard was

01:11:15.760 really escalating.

01:11:17.300 Think of it

01:11:17.760 like this.

01:11:18.500 We the people

01:11:19.300 long ago

01:11:20.020 agreed to

01:11:20.980 subsidize higher

01:11:22.140 ed on the

01:11:22.800 implicit assumption

01:11:23.680 that higher ed

01:11:24.960 serves a

01:11:25.820 public good,

01:11:27.180 that it

01:11:27.440 actually produces

01:11:28.160 good young

01:11:29.260 men and

01:11:29.660 women who 0.99

01:11:30.080 are patriotic,

01:11:31.020 who love

01:11:31.280 their family,

01:11:31.940 love their

01:11:32.240 country,

01:11:32.740 ideally love

01:11:33.440 God Almighty

01:11:34.020 himself.

01:11:35.340 But they

01:11:35.700 dropped the

01:11:36.220 end of the

01:11:36.480 bargain decades

01:11:37.280 ago.

01:11:37.680 So I think

01:11:38.100 what Trump

01:11:38.740 is really

01:11:39.340 doing,

01:11:39.940 taking the

01:11:40.300 long view

01:11:40.740 here,

01:11:41.320 he's

01:11:41.560 fundamentally

01:11:42.020 resetting the

01:11:43.100 terms of the

01:11:43.700 relationship between

01:11:44.580 we the people

01:11:45.340 and higher ed.

01:11:46.200 And he frankly

01:11:46.800 cannot pick a

01:11:47.700 better place to

01:11:48.380 start than the

01:11:49.500 most elite of

01:11:50.500 all the elite

01:11:50.960 institutions,

01:11:52.060 a place that

01:11:52.620 has clearly and

01:11:54.180 transparently not

01:11:55.500 cracked down on,

01:11:56.600 among other

01:11:57.020 things,

01:11:57.540 anti-Semitism,

01:11:58.460 anti-Americanism,

01:12:00.120 anti-Westernism,

01:12:00.960 and that is

01:12:01.320 Harvard University.

01:12:03.120 I mean,

01:12:03.620 you know what's

01:12:04.200 sick to me is,

01:12:05.500 I mean,

01:12:05.980 this is a hedge

01:12:06.660 fund that calls

01:12:07.540 themselves a

01:12:08.640 university at this

01:12:09.600 point, I think.

01:12:11.020 They could so

01:12:12.360 easily make

01:12:13.820 higher education

01:12:14.940 free and pay

01:12:17.840 for it for

01:12:18.500 decades with

01:12:19.640 just their hedge

01:12:20.320 fund.

01:12:20.560 And I'm not

01:12:21.020 saying that they

01:12:21.700 should do that

01:12:22.340 or whatever,

01:12:22.760 it's their money,

01:12:23.500 et cetera,

01:12:23.820 et cetera.

01:12:24.060 But we should

01:12:25.140 stop subsidizing

01:12:26.240 this.

01:12:27.200 They are making

01:12:28.380 money hand over

01:12:29.720 fist and taking

01:12:31.100 our tax dollars

01:12:32.400 and then teaching

01:12:34.100 our children 1.00

01:12:34.760 garbage, 1.00

01:12:36.560 twisting our 1.00

01:12:37.320 nation,

01:12:39.440 and, you know,

01:12:40.660 all saying that

01:12:41.460 they're so important.

01:12:42.420 You know,

01:12:42.880 it was important

01:12:44.280 to support them

01:12:45.560 when they were

01:12:47.080 struggling,

01:12:47.800 when we looked

01:12:48.640 and said,

01:12:49.240 okay,

01:12:49.620 you know,

01:12:50.460 we got to make

01:12:51.300 sure they're doing

01:12:52.160 the public

01:12:52.660 good,

01:12:53.480 it's important,

01:12:54.780 and we want

01:12:55.560 to make sure

01:12:55.980 that they can

01:12:56.520 stay in business,

01:12:57.420 et cetera,

01:12:57.780 et cetera.

01:12:58.180 But they are

01:12:59.680 some of the

01:13:00.500 biggest businesses

01:13:01.400 in the world

01:13:02.100 now.

01:13:04.480 And, you know,

01:13:05.240 Glenn,

01:13:05.420 you're a student,

01:13:06.380 Glenn,

01:13:07.680 of the American

01:13:08.560 conservative movement,

01:13:09.680 as I like to

01:13:10.440 think I am,

01:13:11.060 too.

01:13:11.760 I mean,

01:13:12.080 it was William

01:13:12.800 F. Buckley

01:13:13.420 himself,

01:13:14.000 the guy who

01:13:14.480 literally found

01:13:15.140 in National Review

01:13:15.860 Magazine that

01:13:16.780 first post-war

01:13:18.280 institution of the

01:13:19.500 movement.

01:13:20.380 His first book

01:13:21.260 was on this.

01:13:22.400 Buckley wrote

01:13:23.000 God and Man

01:13:23.760 at Yale,

01:13:24.420 a book in

01:13:25.060 1951.

01:13:27.560 1951.

01:13:28.880 I mean,

01:13:29.240 decades before

01:13:29.980 I was born,

01:13:30.840 he was complaining

01:13:31.460 about how the

01:13:32.240 elite Ivy League,

01:13:33.980 ivory tower of

01:13:35.360 the academy,

01:13:36.200 had sold its

01:13:37.120 soul to

01:13:37.820 secularism,

01:13:38.760 atheism,

01:13:39.520 leftism,

01:13:40.500 at the time

01:13:41.060 pro-Soviet

01:13:41.840 communism,

01:13:42.760 cultural Marxism,

01:13:43.720 all the various

01:13:44.440 maladies that

01:13:45.600 are seeking to

01:13:46.340 subjugate and

01:13:47.800 essentially devour

01:13:48.740 us as a fifth

01:13:49.420 column from

01:13:50.300 within.

01:13:51.320 So,

01:13:51.760 this is so

01:13:52.720 overdue.

01:13:53.600 I mean,

01:13:53.820 this is so,

01:13:54.780 so,

01:13:55.100 so overdue.

01:13:55.740 And by the

01:13:56.120 way,

01:13:56.920 not just on

01:13:57.520 the policy,

01:13:58.260 it's great

01:13:58.680 policy.

01:13:59.440 The politics

01:14:00.080 are also

01:14:00.580 amazing.

01:14:01.540 I mean,

01:14:01.740 Donald Trump

01:14:02.300 has a special

01:14:03.020 gift here,

01:14:03.660 Glenn.

01:14:03.920 He picks

01:14:04.460 amazing enemies.

01:14:05.760 I mean,

01:14:05.900 think about the

01:14:06.300 whole Stormy

01:14:06.920 Daniels,

01:14:07.380 Michael Cohen

01:14:07.940 thing.

01:14:08.260 I mean,

01:14:08.400 amazing enemies,

01:14:09.380 right?

01:14:09.660 Stormy Daniels,

01:14:10.920 Michael Cohen,

01:14:12.020 Alvin Bragg.

01:14:12.940 Well,

01:14:13.160 so too here.

01:14:14.360 Harvard

01:14:14.600 University is a

01:14:15.680 pitch-perfect

01:14:16.640 enemy for his

01:14:17.540 nationalist,

01:14:18.140 populist,

01:14:18.740 MAGA coalition

01:14:19.860 there.

01:14:20.120 He's forcing

01:14:20.960 Democrats to

01:14:22.160 defend Harvard

01:14:23.260 University.

01:14:24.060 He is forcing

01:14:24.620 them to tell

01:14:25.880 the person who

01:14:27.140 works at a

01:14:27.840 supply line,

01:14:29.660 at a manufacturing

01:14:30.680 plant who's,

01:14:31.480 you know,

01:14:32.060 making ends

01:14:32.740 meet on

01:14:33.160 $50,000 a

01:14:33.860 year salary.

01:14:34.520 They're trying

01:14:35.380 to force Barack

01:14:36.660 Obama,

01:14:37.340 Kamala Harris,

01:14:38.080 all these

01:14:38.380 Democrats to

01:14:39.240 say to that

01:14:39.800 worker on the

01:14:40.660 manufacturing line,

01:14:41.540 okay,

01:14:42.580 your hard-earned

01:14:43.420 taxpayer dollars

01:14:44.300 has to go fund

01:14:45.340 the indoctrination

01:14:46.540 of lesbian dance

01:14:48.080 theory or whatever

01:14:48.900 the heck they're

01:14:49.340 teaching at

01:14:50.600 Harvard University.

01:14:51.560 It's brilliant,

01:14:52.520 brilliant politics

01:14:53.200 as well.

01:14:54.580 So tell me about

01:14:55.660 the 2019

01:14:56.460 combating

01:14:58.180 anti-Semitism

01:14:59.060 Trump order,

01:15:00.620 the executive

01:15:01.180 order that he signed

01:15:01.920 in,

01:15:02.040 because this is

01:15:02.520 what this all

01:15:03.040 kind of spins

01:15:03.600 around,

01:15:03.980 isn't it?

01:15:05.720 Yeah,

01:15:06.200 so it's twofold.

01:15:07.680 So this was a

01:15:08.640 very important

01:15:09.200 executive order.

01:15:10.040 You know,

01:15:10.240 there's been a lot

01:15:10.800 of confusion on

01:15:11.480 this issue,

01:15:11.940 I think.

01:15:12.500 I've seen a lot

01:15:13.280 of folks confused

01:15:14.940 as to whether or

01:15:15.920 not some of these

01:15:16.380 attempts to

01:15:16.880 legislatively crack

01:15:17.900 down on

01:15:18.700 anti-Semitism

01:15:19.400 and fringe upon

01:15:20.560 First Amendment

01:15:21.100 free speech.

01:15:22.440 But Donald Trump

01:15:23.160 did sign a very

01:15:23.900 important executive

01:15:24.680 order back in

01:15:25.540 2019 where he

01:15:26.880 interpreted Title

01:15:27.740 VI of the

01:15:28.560 Civil Rights Act.

01:15:30.000 Title VI

01:15:30.540 essentially prohibits

01:15:32.020 any institution

01:15:33.100 of higher

01:15:33.420 education that

01:15:34.120 receives taxpayer

01:15:34.980 dollars from

01:15:35.640 discriminating on

01:15:36.320 the basis of

01:15:37.020 race, sex,

01:15:38.280 national origin,

01:15:39.140 religion, etc.

01:15:40.300 So he interpreted

01:15:41.060 in the executive

01:15:41.740 order Title VI as

01:15:43.580 including the

01:15:44.480 prohibition on

01:15:45.340 discrimination of

01:15:46.140 religion as

01:15:47.340 including anti-Zionism

01:15:49.060 as a form of

01:15:50.260 anti-Semitism

01:15:50.920 there.

01:15:51.520 So he essentially

01:15:52.280 did this by

01:15:53.280 executive order

01:15:53.960 years ago.

01:15:55.360 And that's also

01:15:56.340 relevant doubly so

01:15:57.540 because he's on

01:15:58.680 another executive

01:15:59.280 order in the first

01:16:00.460 24 to 30 hours of

01:16:01.960 second term back

01:16:03.000 in January of

01:16:04.400 this year where

01:16:05.420 he also extended

01:16:06.400 or he interpreted

01:16:07.240 I should say the

01:16:08.340 affirmative action

01:16:09.060 case, which by

01:16:10.500 the way Harvard

01:16:10.980 was the defendant.

01:16:11.840 This was the

01:16:12.160 Students for Fair

01:16:12.700 Admissions versus

01:16:13.320 Harvard College

01:16:14.060 case from two

01:16:14.880 years ago that

01:16:15.440 reached the

01:16:15.780 Supreme Court that

01:16:16.560 finally overdid the

01:16:18.420 state-sanctioned

01:16:19.320 racism that we

01:16:20.300 euphemistically refer

01:16:21.360 to as so-called

01:16:22.080 affirmative action.

01:16:23.200 He also interpreted

01:16:24.100 that case as

01:16:25.620 applying to all,

01:16:28.300 to all the

01:16:28.980 14th Amendment

01:16:29.620 Title VI and

01:16:30.980 extending it to

01:16:31.740 race, sex,

01:16:32.740 national origin.

01:16:33.240 So the combined

01:16:34.160 effect of both of

01:16:35.800 these executive

01:16:36.240 orders, Glenn, is

01:16:37.480 to take an

01:16:37.900 extremely strong

01:16:38.940 stand against not

01:16:40.200 just anti-Zionism, 0.56

01:16:41.880 anti-Semitism there,

01:16:42.780 but also anti-white 0.64

01:16:44.060 hatred, anti-Christian 0.97

01:16:45.500 bigotry, anti-Asian 0.98

01:16:47.100 hatred there.

01:16:47.820 These are all the

01:16:48.580 things that Donald

01:16:49.280 Trump and his

01:16:49.720 administration are now

01:16:50.620 cracking on in there.

01:16:51.640 Harvard is offending

01:16:52.760 all of the above.

01:16:54.020 Many of these lead

01:16:54.840 institutions are offending

01:16:55.920 all of the above.

01:16:56.840 And the very simple

01:16:58.200 thing that I think

01:16:58.900 the Trump

01:16:59.200 administration is

01:16:59.880 doing here, and

01:17:00.640 again, it's great

01:17:01.580 policy and great

01:17:02.340 politics alike, they

01:17:03.600 are saying, unless

01:17:04.420 and until you stop

01:17:05.680 discriminating on the

01:17:06.940 basis of race, sex,

01:17:09.060 religion, and so

01:17:09.640 forth there, you're

01:17:10.540 not entitled to any

01:17:11.600 taxpayer dollars.

01:17:12.540 It's a pretty good

01:17:13.180 argument, I think.

01:17:15.180 So tell me, because

01:17:16.660 I'm hearing some

01:17:18.340 people say, on both

01:17:20.240 sides, you know, this

01:17:22.420 is a crackdown on

01:17:23.440 free speech, and I

01:17:24.920 am not a speech

01:17:27.300 policeman.

01:17:28.120 I believe the most

01:17:30.560 vile things can, and

01:17:33.100 we need to allow

01:17:34.580 them to be said, and

01:17:37.380 not squash speech at

01:17:39.720 all, because it is a

01:17:41.220 fundamental right, and

01:17:43.840 we have to have it if

01:17:45.060 we're going to grow as

01:17:45.900 people.

01:17:46.800 How do you stop this

01:17:48.860 from being, from an

01:17:52.100 anti-Semite bill to

01:17:56.320 make sure that

01:17:56.960 anti-Semitism is

01:17:58.420 curbed to it

01:18:01.280 becoming something

01:18:02.000 about speech?

01:18:03.040 You're not allowed to

01:18:03.700 say, if you want to

01:18:04.460 criticize Israel,

01:18:05.320 criticize Israel all 1.00

01:18:06.100 you want.

01:18:07.000 You know, same with

01:18:07.640 Hamas, same with all 1.00

01:18:08.480 of them.

01:18:09.120 Criticize it.

01:18:10.660 Where's the line

01:18:11.560 there?

01:18:11.860 So, the line, Glenn, in

01:18:16.180 my opinion, is as

01:18:17.980 follows.

01:18:18.340 You are, of course,

01:18:19.080 more than allowed to

01:18:20.180 criticize any foreign 0.76

01:18:21.700 government, Brazil,

01:18:23.260 Indonesia, Japan,

01:18:24.320 Israel, any government.

01:18:25.960 By the way, Glenn, you

01:18:27.140 know, you've spent some

01:18:27.680 time in Israel over the

01:18:28.540 decades.

01:18:29.000 You're a tremendous

01:18:29.540 friend of the Jewish

01:18:30.320 people.

01:18:31.120 You know, anyone who's

01:18:31.980 ever met Israelis knows 0.99

01:18:33.200 that no one loves

01:18:33.980 criticizing the Israeli

01:18:34.960 government more than

01:18:35.840 Israelis themselves.

01:18:36.760 Two Jews in a room 1.00

01:18:42.820 and you've got four

01:18:43.760 different opinions and

01:18:44.760 none of them could be

01:18:45.820 satisfied for the other

01:18:47.120 ones.

01:18:47.520 So, yes, I agree.

01:18:49.180 Yeah, exactly.

01:18:50.380 There's literally books

01:18:51.840 written about Talmudic

01:18:53.180 insults, the insults 0.99

01:18:55.120 the rabbis use against.

01:18:56.300 But, anyway, I digress.

01:18:57.700 So, you're, of course,

01:18:58.560 allowed to criticize any

01:19:00.160 policy you wish of any

01:19:01.500 foreign government,

01:19:02.200 including Israel.

01:19:03.180 What tows the line is

01:19:05.460 when you focus

01:19:06.600 solely and exclusively

01:19:07.800 on calling for the 0.86

01:19:09.900 eradication of a single

01:19:11.960 nation state there.

01:19:13.260 And that single

01:19:13.940 nation state, based on

01:19:15.940 the context and the way

01:19:17.120 that you are clamoring

01:19:18.500 and chanting and the

01:19:20.320 way that you are

01:19:20.920 looking at your fellow

01:19:21.900 students, who are

01:19:22.540 probably, in this case,

01:19:23.380 having to be Jewish,

01:19:24.420 tends to potentially have

01:19:26.520 an imminent threat of

01:19:27.780 physical danger there.

01:19:28.860 So, for instance, when

01:19:30.100 so-called anti-Zionism

01:19:31.860 amounts to people

01:19:33.320 blocking students from

01:19:34.940 campus yards there,

01:19:36.120 to stopping people

01:19:37.660 from access in the

01:19:38.780 library simply because

01:19:39.820 they are wearing

01:19:40.520 kippah or the ritual 0.96

01:19:42.400 fringes, sisi, because

01:19:43.720 they are visibly Jewish

01:19:44.540 there, that is clearly

01:19:46.200 no longer simply

01:19:47.280 criticism of a given

01:19:49.120 policy of the

01:19:50.020 Netanyahu government.

01:19:50.800 That is just straight up

01:19:51.660 anti-Semitism there.

01:19:52.760 So, when it reaches an

01:19:53.860 imminent threat of harm

01:19:55.340 there, and by the way,

01:19:56.660 Glenn, I would say the

01:19:57.540 exact same thing about

01:19:59.060 imminent threat of harm

01:20:00.020 for anyone else, by the

01:20:01.160 way.

01:20:01.320 If you had a group of

01:20:03.060 Chinese-Americans,

01:20:05.240 Japanese-Americans,

01:20:06.100 whoever it is, and you

01:20:07.220 had a small group of

01:20:08.380 people there that

01:20:09.640 clearly have demonic

01:20:11.540 eyes there, and they're

01:20:13.100 chanting for the 0.98

01:20:14.300 eradication of Japan, and 0.98

01:20:16.260 they're blocking the

01:20:16.980 Japanese students from

01:20:17.860 access in the library, I

01:20:18.700 would say the exact same

01:20:19.660 thing there.

01:20:20.480 So, that is kind of how I

01:20:22.800 would personally draw the

01:20:24.180 line.

01:20:24.640 It's admittedly not the

01:20:26.020 cleanest line to draw.

01:20:27.740 Go ahead, sir.

01:20:28.240 But how do you then

01:20:29.900 balance with, let's say,

01:20:31.720 you know, Ronald Reagan

01:20:32.860 saying the Soviet Union

01:20:34.000 is an evil empire, needs 1.00

01:20:35.460 to be destroyed, or the 0.99

01:20:37.980 Nazis, and, you know, the 0.86

01:20:40.040 argument that, well, not

01:20:40.860 all Germans were Nazis, but 0.88

01:20:42.320 everybody kind of looked at

01:20:43.600 all Germans as Nazis there 0.98

01:20:44.960 for a while.

01:20:47.300 So, look, I'll probably

01:20:50.680 even draw the line even a

01:20:51.520 little finer than that

01:20:52.420 there.

01:20:53.280 Look, there are a lot,

01:20:54.380 there are even a lot of

01:20:55.480 Jews, even a lot of

01:20:56.380 religious Jews who are

01:20:57.860 not theologically

01:20:59.220 Zionist, insofar as 0.82

01:21:01.580 they, it's getting a

01:21:04.000 little in the weeds,

01:21:04.540 honestly.

01:21:05.020 But the very quick

01:21:06.840 argument is that the

01:21:08.640 state of Israel should not 0.85

01:21:09.560 have been formed prior to

01:21:10.740 the arrival of the Jewish

01:21:11.660 Messiah.

01:21:12.460 So, okay, if you want to

01:21:13.780 have an academic argument

01:21:15.180 as to whether or not it

01:21:16.740 was a good idea for the

01:21:18.400 Jewish state to be formed

01:21:19.840 in 1948, I think that's

01:21:21.660 fine.

01:21:22.080 Frankly, religious Jews do 0.99

01:21:23.480 that among themselves all

01:21:24.780 the time.

01:21:25.800 What, again, I think,

01:21:26.620 crossed the line is

01:21:28.480 calling for from the

01:21:30.420 river to the sea with

01:21:32.220 the clearly intended

01:21:33.560 effect of tossing the 0.97

01:21:35.340 Jews into the sea, which 1.00

01:21:36.980 again, it gets to the

01:21:38.240 subjective intent of what

01:21:40.120 is being called for here,

01:21:41.400 and that's not always the

01:21:42.080 cleanest line to draw, but

01:21:43.160 that's, you know, that's

01:21:43.800 why, that's why in theory

01:21:44.780 we have bureaucracies and

01:21:46.420 juries and things like that

01:21:47.400 to actually hear the

01:21:48.120 evidence and so forth.

01:21:49.840 We've only got about 30

01:21:50.820 seconds, Josh.

01:21:51.500 Does this work?

01:21:52.760 Does Trump win this?

01:21:53.720 I don't think that

01:21:56.820 Donald Trump is

01:21:57.400 blinking, Glenn.

01:21:58.460 I mean, Harper's going 0.99

01:21:59.760 to blink first.

01:22:02.400 Trump, to me, seems like

01:22:03.580 he's thrown the gas

01:22:04.220 out here.

01:22:04.620 I wish him the best of

01:22:05.340 luck.

01:22:05.540 I think he's going to

01:22:06.020 win this fight.

01:22:07.860 Josh Hammer from Newsweek

01:22:09.260 Senior Editor-at-Large,

01:22:10.480 also the author of

01:22:11.560 Israel and Civilization.

01:22:12.720 Josh, as always, good to

01:22:13.620 talk to you.

01:22:13.980 Thank you very much.

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01:25:30.280 Alan Dershowitz is

01:25:31.400 joining us here in a

01:25:32.160 second.

01:25:32.680 He says that the

01:25:34.080 Supreme Court is going

01:25:35.780 to rethink the limits

01:25:36.820 and protections of the

01:25:38.300 First Amendment, and I

01:25:39.680 don't think in a good

01:25:40.940 way.

01:25:41.820 I'm going to talk to him

01:25:42.640 coming up.

01:25:43.240 Also, Chip Roy is

01:25:44.080 joining us in the final

01:25:45.220 hour of the podcast.

01:25:46.960 Chip is going to talk

01:25:48.460 about codifying the

01:25:50.280 doge cuts.

01:25:52.860 You know, there are some

01:25:54.320 people that say that

01:25:55.400 Elon Musk is just upset

01:25:57.480 at the big, beautiful

01:25:59.600 bill because, well, you

01:26:01.120 know, they cut all of

01:26:03.420 the EV rebates.

01:26:05.400 I don't think that Elon

01:26:07.580 Musk is doing that.

01:26:09.020 Maybe.

01:26:09.480 I don't think so.

01:26:11.060 It's weird when you

01:26:11.760 trust Elon Musk, you

01:26:13.420 know, when he's the good

01:26:14.360 guy in it.

01:26:15.180 Because I know, I mean,

01:26:16.460 I like Elon Musk, but I'm

01:26:18.560 still, the jury's still

01:26:19.340 out.

01:26:19.560 I mean, the guy could turn

01:26:20.320 out to be the Antichrist,

01:26:21.520 but anybody could at this

01:26:22.680 point.

01:26:22.980 Would you be surprised if

01:26:24.240 any, Ronald McDonald is

01:26:25.880 all of a sudden like, oh,

01:26:26.980 by the way, I've been the

01:26:27.700 Antichrist the whole time.

01:26:28.600 I wouldn't necessarily be

01:26:30.080 surprised by any of it

01:26:31.240 anymore.

01:26:32.660 But I trust Elon Musk on

01:26:35.600 the cuts and Chip Roy says

01:26:39.420 that they have to be

01:26:40.400 codified now.

01:26:41.800 What did Trump just send

01:26:43.060 over?

01:26:43.340 Nine billion dollars,

01:26:44.760 something like that, which

01:26:46.140 seems like a big number.

01:26:47.200 And then you really look at

01:26:48.600 the trillions that we're

01:26:49.620 spending.

01:26:50.000 You're like, not so much.

01:26:51.460 Not so much.

01:26:53.380 But we'll talk to Chip Roy

01:26:54.680 about that coming up.

01:26:56.020 Anything else we're missing

01:26:56.860 here, Stu, that we have to

01:26:57.660 hit before we, before we

01:26:59.300 hit the road today?

01:26:59.960 One thing I, yeah, a couple

01:27:02.340 things.

01:27:04.280 One is Corinne Jean-Pierre

01:27:06.340 has come out.

01:27:08.240 Now, it's interesting because

01:27:09.460 she's already out as gay. 1.00

01:27:11.240 So that one, she can't come 0.95

01:27:12.220 out again.

01:27:12.680 She can't come out as

01:27:13.600 straight.

01:27:14.140 That would be interesting.

01:27:14.780 That would be a fascinating.

01:27:15.900 She's got a new book coming

01:27:16.900 out, though.

01:27:17.920 And she is apparently leaving

01:27:19.740 the Democratic Party, which

01:27:22.320 is fascinating.

01:27:23.860 Excuse me?

01:27:24.460 Yes.

01:27:24.800 She's now an independent, she 0.91

01:27:26.520 says.

01:27:27.160 So that's going to be...

01:27:28.480 Really?

01:27:29.180 Yeah.

01:27:29.420 A new book comes out in

01:27:30.360 October.

01:27:31.800 And then another one is, you

01:27:33.120 know, these Medicaid cuts...

01:27:34.100 I was going to ask if she

01:27:35.320 wrote it herself, but has she

01:27:36.600 read it?

01:27:37.200 Can she read it?

01:27:38.200 It's funny.

01:27:39.100 Someone tweeted that, I

01:27:41.520 can't wait for the audio

01:27:42.360 book, it will be read by John

01:27:43.860 Kirby, which is a tweet I'm so

01:27:46.180 jealous of.

01:27:47.400 I'm so...

01:27:48.400 A++.

01:27:49.780 I'm so annoyed I didn't think

01:27:51.240 of it myself.

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01:30:04.040 You know, my mom used to say, sticks and stones can break your bones, but words will never hurt you.

01:30:10.120 And we used to really believe that, and I still do, but words are becoming very, very dangerous,

01:30:17.080 especially when they're in the mouths of extremists and they're marching around saying, you know, 0.99

01:30:22.940 kill all the Jews, and then people start to kill all the Jews. 0.99

01:30:25.780 Um, how do we balance this? 0.99

01:30:30.660 Because I don't, I mean, look, I, words, believe it or not, uh, is how I make a living.

01:30:38.160 I mean, I know I'm a butcher of the English language, but this is what I do for a living,

01:30:43.780 and it's freedom of speech to express myself, and I have been accused of saying things all the time,

01:30:50.720 that you're going to get people killed. 0.65

01:30:52.760 Well, no, wait, now hang on just a second.

01:30:54.560 Um, we can't shut down freedom of speech.

01:30:59.200 The most abhorrent things have to be, we have to tolerate and be able to say, you know,

01:31:05.840 it's their right to say it, they're wrong, and here's why.

01:31:09.640 But how do we keep ourselves safe?

01:31:11.780 And Alan Dershowitz said something, um, he was on, I can't remember which show, um,

01:31:16.640 but he was on a show, and, uh, and he, he said that he thought the Supreme Court was going

01:31:21.720 to start leaning against speech and more towards security, uh, which frightens me, and I think it

01:31:29.360 does him, too.

01:31:30.480 I don't think that's a good thing, and I wanted him to explain that.

01:31:33.300 In 60 seconds, we go to Alan Dershowitz, Harvard Law School professor, uh, emeritus, host of The Dershow,

01:31:39.840 and the author of a new book called The Preventative State, which I think is kind of exactly what we're

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01:33:02.100 Welcome, Alan Dershowitz.

01:33:03.800 How are you, sir?

01:33:05.500 I'm doing great.

01:33:06.620 How are you?

01:33:08.220 I'm good.

01:33:09.200 So, did I get this right?

01:33:10.860 You're talking about now that the Supreme Court might start leaning towards security over

01:33:16.440 free speech in the coming years.

01:33:20.500 Yeah.

01:33:20.820 Look, I pride myself on never.

01:33:23.000 It does.

01:33:23.880 I pride myself on never making predictions based on what I want to happen.

01:33:28.940 That's what Lawrence Tribe does. 0.56

01:33:30.800 That's what others on the left do.

01:33:32.740 And that's why they're always wrong.

01:33:34.340 I make predictions based on my analysis of trends.

01:33:37.520 This is not a trend I approve of, but it's a trend I see coming.

01:33:42.420 I see coming it in the area of defamation.

01:33:45.180 I see it coming in the area of incitement.

01:33:48.420 I think that the Brandenburg decision was written during a time of relative calm, and

01:33:54.180 we weren't seeing the kinds of incitements to violence that we saw that probably led to

01:34:00.340 the burning of Jews in Boulder, Colorado, and the shooting of these two innocent people

01:34:06.140 in Washington, D.C., and other kinds of things.

01:34:10.480 Look, I have a lot of experience with this.

01:34:12.620 Hang on just a second.

01:34:13.820 You just said, and I find this amazing that you said, you just said it happened in a time

01:34:19.920 of relative calm.

01:34:20.800 It was 1969 that this case came down to the Supreme Court, if I'm not mistaken, which is

01:34:26.400 not really a calm year.

01:34:27.460 But can you explain what the Brandenburg case is?

01:34:32.180 Sure.

01:34:32.800 What it was?

01:34:33.100 Brandenburg was a Nazi who was making horrible, horrible speeches, but he wasn't inciting anybody

01:34:40.940 directly.

01:34:41.940 And the Nazis in those days had no influence, no power.

01:34:45.780 They weren't getting people to do things.

01:34:47.360 The people who were creating problems then were during the Vietnam War, people from the 1.00

01:34:52.480 left.

01:34:52.740 I represented a lot of them, and I represented people who disrupted the Democratic Convention

01:34:59.080 in 1968, the Chicago 7, and other people like that.

01:35:04.140 And I saw with my own eyes that some of these people who started as disruptors and violent

01:35:10.400 confrontationists and people pushing and shoving and, you know, breaking property and stuff

01:35:18.260 like that ultimately became murderers like Kathy Boudin, who ended up being responsible 1.00

01:35:23.320 for the killing of two policemen, or the Weathermen who planted bombs and killed people.

01:35:30.740 And then their leaders became, you know, prominent spokesmen of the left, professors in various

01:35:37.320 places.

01:35:37.760 So I saw that, and what I'm seeing now is a different kind of quantity.

01:35:46.220 And what we're seeing is with the, you know, globalize the Intifada and Palestine will be 0.92

01:35:52.140 free from the river to the sea.

01:35:53.100 Those are calls for violence.

01:35:55.360 And under the current Brandenburg case, they're protected speech.

01:35:59.020 I think they should still be protected speech.

01:36:01.620 But my view, my prediction is that when the next case comes up to the Supreme Court, this

01:36:07.740 Supreme Court, I think they may take a more security-oriented point of view and say, wait a minute,

01:36:15.380 the incitement doesn't have to be so direct.

01:36:18.360 It could be a little bit more indirect and let the jury decide that issue.

01:36:22.700 So I'm concerned about that.

01:36:24.720 You know, in my book, The Preventive State, I have a whole chapter on free speech and how

01:36:30.300 free speech can sometimes cause violence, but that it's not proper to deny free speech in

01:36:37.960 order to prevent violence.

01:36:39.220 We have to think of better ways of preventing violence.

01:36:42.200 And in the Preventive State, I come up, I think, with better ways than constraining free speech.

01:36:48.300 Because I really, I'm with you on this.

01:36:50.940 This really disturbs me.

01:36:52.480 When I read this article from you yesterday, the story from you yesterday, I needed to talk to you

01:36:57.900 because I'm like, this is horrible.

01:37:00.340 This goes beyond cancel culture.

01:37:04.560 This is now the government being able to come in and say, nope, right, that's really bad.

01:37:12.700 Yeah.

01:37:13.360 Look, there are so many preventive mechanisms we use that have effects on free speech, even

01:37:17.440 deportation.

01:37:19.840 Deportation obviously denies the deported person the right to speak freely in this country.

01:37:25.860 Now, of course, under the Constitution, a citizen has the most free speech rights,

01:37:30.400 a green card holder second most, visa holders almost know free speech rights.

01:37:35.060 They can be deported if they say things that are contrary to the interests of the United

01:37:39.340 States.

01:37:39.760 They're just guests in the country.

01:37:41.800 And so, you know, I think we're going to see a lot, lots of movement in this area because

01:37:49.440 we're going to see a lot more violence.

01:37:51.560 Let me tell you what happened to me.

01:37:52.880 But the day before the killings in the District of Columbia, this one Christian boy and Jewish

01:38:00.200 woman who were killed working for the embassy, the day after that, I was getting an honorary

01:38:05.840 degree at a college in Florida.

01:38:08.600 And the security people from the college came up to me and said, we're terrified that there

01:38:12.580 might be a copycat attempt to kill you because you're a prominent spokesman for pro-Israel

01:38:20.160 points of view.

01:38:21.180 And so they created a whole security thing around me where they created an escape plan.

01:38:27.760 They had policemen with machine guns and with bulletproof glass to protect me.

01:38:34.020 And I have redoubled my security.

01:38:37.820 And I think we're going to see more copycat crimes.

01:38:40.400 I think that Hamas wants to see violence in the United States. 0.97

01:38:44.700 That's their goal, to get more people to kill Jews, Christians, and others in the United 0.99

01:38:51.540 States. 0.98

01:38:52.100 And I think they're probably going to succeed unless there are some preventive steps that

01:38:55.580 are taken.

01:38:56.320 Now, the preventive steps should not include diminutions of legitimate free speech under

01:39:01.880 the Constitution.

01:39:02.600 I tell you, I see what the government is doing and how AI in Silicon Valley is playing a big

01:39:11.880 role with the Pentagon and CIA and everything else.

01:39:15.620 And I am really, really concerned.

01:39:18.240 If there is another big event like a 9-11, I fear Americans are just going to run to that

01:39:25.440 kind of stuff.

01:39:25.940 And then we're in a trap that I don't think we get out of.

01:39:28.340 Yeah, but that's what history shows.

01:39:31.300 And in my book, The Preventer State, I show that there's a common phenomenon.

01:39:35.940 We underreact and we don't prevent.

01:39:37.860 We didn't prevent Pearl Harbor. 0.69

01:39:39.380 We didn't prevent 9-11. 0.97

01:39:41.540 Israel didn't prevent October 7th. 0.98

01:39:43.660 Then what happened?

01:39:44.740 After we failed to prevent Pearl Harbor, we put 110,000 innocent Japanese Americans in 0.99

01:39:51.140 camps in order to prevent them from doing it again.

01:39:53.900 They never would have done it again.

01:39:54.940 We overreacted.

01:39:55.920 After 9-11, we created the Patriot Act, which gave the government too much power to prevent

01:40:03.080 a recurrence of that.

01:40:04.780 And, you know, reasonably disagree about Israel, but a lot of people think that Israel, for

01:40:09.760 failure to prevent October 7th, which they could have done, they had the intelligence,

01:40:13.780 may have overreacted in Gaza.

01:40:16.460 I'm not agreeing with that.

01:40:17.700 I'm just telling you, historically, there's a phenomenon.

01:40:20.580 It starts with under-prediction and ends up with overreaction to the event that was not

01:40:27.140 predicted and prevented.

01:40:28.300 That's one of the theses of my book.

01:40:31.880 So what should we expect and how do we prepare ourselves so we don't go down that road?

01:40:39.780 Well, first of all, we do a lot more preparation and prevention.

01:40:46.520 We try desperately to use what the resources are available.

01:40:50.760 I'll give you an example.

01:40:52.420 The young man who burned those people in Boulder, Colorado, he was here illegally. 0.99

01:40:59.940 He had overstayed his visa.

01:41:02.040 There's nothing wrong with using artificial intelligence and computer technology to keep

01:41:07.920 track of people who are here illegally.

01:41:10.340 And once he overstayed his visa, action could have been taken.

01:41:14.440 And maybe this crime could have been prevented.

01:41:17.120 So I think there are preventive steps that are consistent with the Constitution with free

01:41:21.700 speech that can be taken to avoid the cataclysmic events.

01:41:26.140 I'll give you another horrible example that we're working on right now.

01:41:30.560 Now, should the United States and Israel bomb Iran's nuclear facilities?

01:41:37.760 We know they're planning to create an atomic bomb.

01:41:40.340 And we know that in the 1930s, if France and England had prevented Germany from building 0.60

01:41:46.860 up its army, they would have saved 50 million lives.

01:41:49.280 But we didn't know it then.

01:41:50.920 And so these are the kinds of preventive decisions.

01:41:54.600 But there's no free lunch.

01:41:56.160 Every preventive decision entails some diminution of liberty.

01:41:59.680 And, you know, Benjamin Franklin was correct when he said those who would deny essential 1.00

01:42:05.340 liberties to secure a little bit more security deserve neither.

01:42:08.920 But the question is, can we deny a little bit of non-essential liberty to prevent major

01:42:15.220 cataclysmic events?

01:42:16.440 I'll give you an example.

01:42:17.660 If before 9-11 we had arrested 10 people and prevented 9-11 and four of the people arrested

01:42:23.460 were improperly arrested and spent two months in jail improperly, that's probably a trade-off

01:42:28.420 that's worth it.

01:42:32.520 What are non-essential liberties?

01:42:36.780 Well, there's a continuum.

01:42:38.460 Obviously, free speech is the most essential liberty.

01:42:43.380 Privacy is a matter of degree.

01:42:44.980 And, you know, keeping track of people who are here illegally does in some way invade their

01:42:52.880 right of privacy, but in a small way, because they really don't have a right to be there

01:42:58.000 at all.

01:42:58.460 Liberty is a continuum.

01:43:00.220 And we have to make sure that we don't go after fundamental liberties as I think,

01:43:05.640 look, what could be worse than putting 110,000 Japanese Americans in camps and denying them

01:43:10.940 their right to earn a living?

01:43:11.900 We did that for three years in the Supreme Court with liberal justices.

01:43:16.900 Earl Warren was the governor of California at the time.

01:43:19.380 Hugo Black was on the Supreme Court.

01:43:21.220 They all agreed with that.

01:43:23.380 Only a couple of justices, Justice Jackson, didn't agree with it.

01:43:28.000 But Americans were outraged at Pearl Harbor as they were outraged at 9-11.

01:43:32.400 And when you're outraged, you don't think carefully.

01:43:36.340 I know.

01:43:38.380 And that's a little terrifying.

01:43:40.360 Just looking at what's coming around the world and then seeing the growth of AI and

01:43:47.340 what can be done, it's a little frightening that we will jump immediately to, yes, we need

01:43:54.060 a super-duper Patriot Act.

01:43:56.380 Yeah, no, I think that's right.

01:43:57.740 We need a super-duper Patriot Act that denies free speech.

01:44:00.840 That's the first thing, because people hate free speech.

01:44:03.820 You know, the vast majority of Americans, even though they claim to support the First 0.91

01:44:08.960 Amendment, believe in free speech for me, but not for thee.

01:44:12.440 I used to, when I taught my class on the First Amendment, I would ask students, how many

01:44:15.720 people believe free speech for everybody?

01:44:17.340 And everybody would raise their hand.

01:44:18.840 And then I would say, but what about pornography?

01:44:20.900 Well, some hands went down.

01:44:23.240 What about, and then I would do a lot, what about anti-Semitism?

01:44:26.580 Some hands would go down.

01:44:27.860 What about the bigotry against Catholics?

01:44:30.300 Some hands would go down.

01:44:31.400 By the end of the class, there were no hands up.

01:44:33.740 Everybody had an exception.

01:44:38.220 Alan, hold on for one minute.

01:44:39.700 I want to talk to you a little bit about Harvard and what's going on there and what you

01:44:44.000 think is coming for Harvard and out of all of this.

01:44:47.440 It's 60 seconds back with Alan Dershowitz in just a second.

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01:45:59.700 So, I mean, you were the youngest full professor at Harvard, at the law school.

01:46:15.100 You're emeritus now at Harvard.

01:46:17.340 What do you see happening to Harvard and this war, this battle between the Trump administration

01:46:24.960 and Harvard?

01:46:25.540 Look, it started way before the Trump administration.

01:46:29.360 Harvard started on its decline probably more than a decade ago by adopting DEI, diversity,

01:46:36.260 equity, and inclusion, which lowered standards for admission, lowered standards for faculty,

01:46:41.220 and turned us into a mediocre university.

01:46:44.020 We are a mediocre university, Harvard.

01:46:46.720 The Latin term shouldn't be veritas.

01:46:50.300 It should be mediocritas.

01:46:52.980 We have lowered our standards.

01:46:55.540 This is not about Jews or about Israel.

01:46:58.480 This is about lowering the standards for DEI.

01:47:01.400 We've also adopted a concept called intersectionality, which says that the world's divided into two

01:47:08.560 groups, the oppressors.

01:47:09.760 Those are Americans, whites, Jews, and the oppressed, people of color, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

01:47:14.460 That's permeated the faculty.

01:47:17.800 Third, we've created these crazy departments of gender studies, of critical race theory, of

01:47:25.520 Southeast Asian this, and these programs are not academic.

01:47:31.960 They're political.

01:47:32.580 They have agendas, and they have destroyed the university, and so I think we need to fundamentally

01:47:41.920 root out these hard-left, polemical, non-academic causes.

01:47:50.320 And, of course, there's anti-Semitism as well. 0.95

01:47:52.800 And so I generally support giving Harvard a kick in the rear end.

01:47:57.960 I have a new book coming out after my book, The Preventive State, in the summer, and it's

01:48:02.020 called Trump to Harvard, Go Fund Yourself.

01:48:05.460 And it's all about how it's important to have targeted defunding.

01:48:11.840 Schools like the Divinity School, the Divinity School, the school that teaches Christianity,

01:48:15.940 has become the cesspool of anti-Semitism, the public health department, a cesspool of

01:48:22.520 anti-Semitism, the Carr Center for Human Rights has become a place of human wrongs.

01:48:27.000 So there's a lot of work to be done, but it should be targeted.

01:48:30.800 We shouldn't be denying visas to everybody.

01:48:33.140 We should be denying them to people who would come in and cause terrible disruptions on the

01:48:38.180 campus.

01:48:38.680 So there's a lot of work to be done, and the president of Harvard is a good person.

01:48:43.680 He's trying his best, but there are hard-left people on the faculty who care more about

01:48:49.620 promoting their progressive agendas than about teaching students.

01:48:53.320 You know, in 60 years at Harvard, I never once expressed a personal view in class.

01:48:57.520 Never once.

01:48:58.100 Students didn't know what my views were on capital punishment, on Israel, you name it.

01:49:02.320 None of them.

01:49:03.120 I never expressed a personal view in class.

01:49:05.500 My job was not to teach them what to think, but to teach them how to think.

01:49:08.860 If they were conservative, I want them to go out as a smarter conservative.

01:49:12.140 If they were liberal, I wanted to be a better liberal.

01:49:14.460 So that's my job, but that's not what's going on at Harvard today.

01:49:17.840 Today, it's becoming a place of indoctrination and propaganda.

01:49:22.960 What do you say to this big thing going around now that, you know, I was just a year away

01:49:28.560 from curing, you know, tuberculosis, and the government pulled all of its funding out

01:49:33.800 of my Harvard research, and now these children are all going to die.

01:49:37.920 How do you respond to that?

01:49:40.480 Yeah.

01:49:40.980 First, A, it's an overstatement.

01:49:42.900 Harvard is $53 billion that it can devote to curing cancer.

01:49:48.300 But clearly, I mean, for example, one of the first reactions when they cut off the funds

01:49:53.860 from Harvard research was one of the researchers made an announcement saying, oh, my God, the

01:49:58.220 mice are now going to die.

01:49:59.520 We can't afford to feed the mice.

01:50:01.060 You know how much it costs to feed a mice on a given day?

01:50:02.940 But 11 cents, 11 cents a day to feed a mouse, and so there's a lot of overstatement, but

01:50:09.680 I do think that we have to have only targeted, and we should not be cutting back on research

01:50:14.900 at all.

01:50:16.560 Alan Dershowitz, I'd love to do a podcast with you, Alan, about the preventative state.

01:50:21.560 Sure.

01:50:21.800 You're always right on top of it.

01:50:23.900 Thank you so much, Alan Dershowitz.

01:50:25.500 Again, the name of the book is The Preventative State, Harvard Law School professor emeritus and

01:50:30.180 host of The Dershow, back in a minute with Chip Roy.

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01:52:16.220 So, last month, the big, beautiful bill cleared the House by a single vote.

01:52:23.520 The senators now have been meeting for weeks behind closed doors.

01:52:28.360 They returned to Washington late Monday.

01:52:30.900 They revised the package.

01:52:33.440 Donald Trump just tweeted out, passing the one big, beautiful bill is a historic opportunity

01:52:37.900 to turn our country around.

01:52:39.960 They need to work as fast as they can to get this bill to my desk before the 4th of July.

01:52:45.960 Then you have Elon Musk saying, the massive, outrageous, pork-filled congressional spending

01:52:50.380 bill is a disgusting abomination.

01:52:53.120 Shame on those who voted for it. 0.94

01:52:54.740 You know you did wrong.

01:52:56.280 You know it.

01:52:57.440 Mike Johnson then says, well, that was disappointing.

01:53:00.580 With all due respect, Elon Musk is my friend, and he's terribly wrong about the one big, beautiful

01:53:06.380 bill.

01:53:06.840 My gosh, my head hurts from all of this.

01:53:09.600 Now the White House is sending an additional $9 billion in cuts, which is nice, but we were

01:53:16.060 hoping for like $1 trillion in cuts, and everybody's arguing over $9 billion in cuts.

01:53:23.720 How is this thing going to even pass?

01:53:27.300 What is happening here?

01:53:29.760 We have Chip Roy, who voted for the last one reluctantly, and I don't know where he stands

01:53:37.240 now.

01:53:37.860 Chip Roy, welcome to the program.

01:53:39.440 How are you, Chip?

01:53:40.900 Glenn, how you doing, brother?

01:53:43.340 I'm good.

01:53:44.220 I'm good.

01:53:44.720 It must not be fun being you right now.

01:53:49.520 Well, you know, here's the thing.

01:53:51.500 When you have a reputation for trying to do the right thing, people do, I think, want to

01:53:56.100 come to you to try to figure out, all right, like, what's the score here?

01:53:58.480 What's the real deal?

01:53:59.780 I'm proud that I think people see me as someone who tries to be honest and kind of, you know,

01:54:04.380 work through this to achieve what you and I, I think, and all your listeners want to

01:54:07.800 achieve.

01:54:08.320 We have an obligation to get this done, but we have to get it done right.

01:54:12.980 You said thank you for saying that I voted for it reluctantly, because I did reluctantly

01:54:17.400 vote for it.

01:54:18.020 My messaging at the time was reluctant.

01:54:20.540 We have to weigh a lot of things right now.

01:54:22.620 We have a president who was given a mandate, a president that you and I support what he's

01:54:27.320 doing, taking on the establishment, taking on this town, you know, rooting out all this

01:54:32.220 DEI and woke garbage, you know, pushing the barriers, you know, securing the border, all

01:54:37.200 the things that we know are happening. 0.92

01:54:39.540 And we need to do certain things in this bill.

01:54:42.200 We do need tax relief.

01:54:43.920 We do need to extend the tax cuts.

01:54:46.120 We need economic growth by putting more money in the hands and the pockets of Americans.

01:54:51.060 Those are all important things, but we've got to cut spending.

01:54:54.000 And the swamp creatures in Congress aren't good at that.

01:54:57.520 People like me have been beating our head against the wall, trying to demonstrate, hey, here's

01:55:00.780 what we need to do, here's how we need to cut.

01:55:02.820 So now we've got to balance this thing.

01:55:05.240 The reason I was reluctant is because it does do some really good things that we bled and

01:55:10.000 fought for for two months, Glenn.

01:55:11.700 I mean, the week before last, we were like three straight days going down and negotiating

01:55:15.560 with the White House, negotiating with folks.

01:55:17.620 And what we got was good.

01:55:19.420 Was it great?

01:55:20.300 No, it was good.

01:55:21.920 We got the Inflation Reduction Act Green News scam.

01:55:24.820 We got a full repeal of basically all future projects.

01:55:28.240 But no, we don't deal with the $400 billion of existing projects.

01:55:32.660 We got historic Medicaid reductions.

01:55:35.240 Reductions in the increases, yes, but a trillion dollars worth.

01:55:38.620 That's never been done, Glenn, literally.

01:55:41.000 But is that good enough for the moment?

01:55:43.000 Maybe not.

01:55:43.880 I think we needed to do better on FMAP and provider taxes and all of the things about

01:55:47.760 the vulnerable versus the able-bodied.

01:55:49.740 We got Medicaid work requirements moved up from 29 to 26.

01:55:52.840 We fought like hell to make the bill something that I think we could be proud of certain elements.

01:55:59.700 But Elon's not wrong, okay?

01:56:02.220 Elon's not wrong that for the moment, we need to do better.

01:56:05.660 We need more spending restraint.

01:56:07.380 We need to meet this moment with the actual deficit reduction that is necessary.

01:56:12.520 If we get economic growth from the taxes, if we get economic growth from the regulatory policy,

01:56:17.400 if we get economic growth because the president is strong and leading, then we can get out of this mess.

01:56:23.020 But it is that plus spending restraint.

01:56:25.060 Last point.

01:56:26.200 I do think it is worth noting that I'm not sure that Elon is really excited about the extent to which we are killing the subsidies across the board.

01:56:37.040 All future subsidies for EVs, for solar panels, for the wind crap, all future subsidies we are mostly killing.

01:56:45.420 There's a few lingering projects, but we tightened it down. 1.00

01:56:47.660 The left is losing their damn mind, Glenn. 0.98

01:56:49.920 So there is a little of that that's also at play. 1.00

01:56:52.960 So that's a long-winded explanation.

01:56:55.240 A lot to do.

01:56:56.020 We're pushing the Senate.

01:56:57.080 They need to go further.

01:56:58.440 I think we need to fix some stuff.

01:57:00.180 But I can promise you this, Glenn.

01:57:02.000 If this bill backslides, if they walk off of what we got, which I don't even think is necessarily good enough,

01:57:08.420 I can promise you I will oppose it in the House.

01:57:10.960 So we'll see what the Senate does.

01:57:12.580 Your speculation on what they're going to do, are they making it worse right now?

01:57:21.040 Is it getting better?

01:57:22.960 I think there are forces at play that are desperately trying to undo the benefits we got with respect to repealing the Green New Scam subsidies, 0.65

01:57:33.540 which, by the way, the President of the United States campaigned fully and clearly on terminating the Green New Scam subsidies.

01:57:40.640 There are forces in the Senate who want to undo that.

01:57:43.980 There are forces in the House who regret voting for those subsidy terminations.

01:57:48.220 I think there are forces in the Senate who are wary of some of our Medicaid reforms,

01:57:55.340 which were important on work requirements, on eligibility, to tighten down and make sure that, you know,

01:58:01.380 we're trying to make sure the able-bodied aren't getting benefits, et cetera.

01:58:05.220 I don't think it went far enough.

01:58:06.660 So we're going to have to work hard just to hold the line at the House bill, which, Glenn, I would say is on the edge of whether it's good enough to merit moving forward

01:58:17.640 and then hope we get three yards in a cloud of dust.

01:58:19.860 First, I will tell you that if we can repeal the IRA subsidies, get the Medicaid reforms, constrain the spending and get the economic growth in the tax policy,

01:58:29.080 that net it is moving the ball down the field.

01:58:32.160 That's why I held my nose.

01:58:33.840 But if we were a truly conservative Congress, we would cut more.

01:58:37.520 That's just the truth.

01:58:38.320 So I read all kinds of things from the banking sector that we're talking about, our Treasury bills, that we are so dangerously close.

01:58:51.280 You raise the debt ceiling yet again.

01:58:54.280 We are dangerously close to the rest of the world saying, I can't buy their debt anymore.

01:58:59.480 I mean, they're not serious about anything.

01:59:01.940 Do you believe we're that close?

01:59:04.000 Yeah, I believe we're on a knife's edge.

01:59:09.440 I think that the bond markets are signaling that.

01:59:12.220 I think this is why Scott Besson has been saying we need to get deficits down as a percentage of GDP so we can signal to the bond markets what needs to be signaled.

01:59:20.780 I think that we have an obligation to get this right right now in order to, frankly,

01:59:27.540 So why isn't anybody listening to that?

01:59:29.900 Why isn't anybody listening to Besson and to the bond market?

01:59:34.960 That's lights out for America if we don't get that right.

01:59:39.080 Yeah, and let me give you another scary point, right?

01:59:42.160 If we are having to refinance our debts at higher interest rates, which currently we would be projecting, much higher interest rates than the CBO is even projecting.

01:59:52.180 Putting aside the CBO, we all recognize that they're flawed.

01:59:54.780 It doesn't matter.

01:59:55.360 You've got to just look at the model that's in front of you.

01:59:56.880 The current model projects refinancing that debt at 3.5%.

02:00:00.960 But what if we have to refinance it at the historic levels of 4%, 4.5%, 5%, right?

02:00:06.880 We would have massively more interest expense.

02:00:09.800 Instead of a trillion, it'd be a trillion and a half.

02:00:11.840 Instead of a trillion and a half, it'd be 2 trillion.

02:00:13.700 We are going to gobble up our entire government expenditure with interest.

02:00:19.000 I mean, Glenn, it is that bad.

02:00:20.620 And here's the problem.

02:00:22.420 Is Congress finally waking up to what you and I and the Freedom Caucus conservatives have been saying now for a decade plus?

02:00:30.060 Yes.

02:00:30.500 They're realizing that we're in a real bad spot.

02:00:33.080 So all that's doing is getting them to come to the table to do the bare minimum, right?

02:00:37.800 The Medicaid reforms, the Inflation Reduction Act subsidies, the food stamp reforms, the other things we just put in this bill, all of which are good, but not as far as I would go.

02:00:48.800 I'll just be clear for your listeners.

02:00:50.880 They're finally getting to the table to accept that, and they're getting there too late.

02:00:54.660 So now what I'm saying is we need to be doing more.

02:00:57.800 Let's talk about the rescissions for a second.

02:00:59.700 The president is sending up rescissions, and yes, it's just $9 billion.

02:01:03.780 The reason it's that small amount, and so everybody listening out there, why does this matter?

02:01:08.540 The reconciliation package can pass the Senate with 51 votes.

02:01:13.120 The normal appropriations process, which we still have to do this year, will require 60 votes in the Senate, right?

02:01:19.640 So that means it's going to be hard to get through Democrats.

02:01:22.060 So this rescissions process is a way to try to cut some of these ridiculous programs, like USAID and other things, using a 51-vote threshold.

02:01:33.640 So that is why we're trying to move it that way.

02:01:37.740 The reason it's just a smaller $9 billion number is it's a test case.

02:01:42.320 Will Congress do its job and do this first down payment, a $9 billion rescission of PBS, NPR, and a bunch of those USAID foreign government funding, foreign aid wasteful programs?

02:01:59.200 You have to.

02:01:59.760 And now we'll see.

02:02:00.680 I'll, of course, vote for that.

02:02:01.800 You know I will.

02:02:02.360 You don't have to.

02:02:02.940 But will the moderates?

02:02:04.520 We'll find out.

02:02:05.320 If they do, we'll get another rescissions package sent up right after that.

02:02:09.580 So this is all part of the process, working with Russ Vogt, the OMB, the president.

02:02:13.460 Sorry, I don't mean to filibuster, but that's the update.

02:02:16.020 Jim, speak about the process a little bit, because it's fascinating to watch this bill try to make its way through all of this.

02:02:22.760 At least my estimate so far, or my understanding, is there's at least two congressmen who, and one congresswoman, I suppose, who already have said that their vote was a yes, but now it would be a no because they didn't realize what they were voting for, which would already put you under the amount that you need to get it passed.

02:02:44.220 The salt people in the House are saying, if you get rid of salt, we're done, and the Senate is saying we're getting rid of salt or at least adjusting it.

02:02:52.680 How does this thing get across the finish line?

02:02:55.640 Well, I mean, like everything else, you've got to figure out how you navigate to get 218 and to get 51.

02:03:01.980 We've managed to get it to this far.

02:03:04.080 Look, you go to war with the army, you've got it, right?

02:03:06.400 We have the congress that we have.

02:03:08.000 We have the president that we have who's trying to get this done, and we're trying to work to do it.

02:03:11.460 I think we're in the zip code, but we're not where we need to be.

02:03:15.340 So let's take the things you just gave some examples.

02:03:17.920 Are there things in the bill that some of us knew about and were warning about that others are now just kind of waking up and seeing?

02:03:24.720 Yes. 0.99

02:03:25.660 At the time, I said, for example, there's a car tax in this bill, you fools. 0.99

02:03:31.260 I don't support it. 0.95

02:03:33.320 It was a tax to make up for the fact that EVs and hybrids can't pay their fair share of the gas tax.

02:03:39.680 They needed $40 billion to pay for some Coast Guard and other stuff.

02:03:43.900 So how did they pay for it in the committee?

02:03:46.160 What they did was they added a car tax for EVs and for hybrids.

02:03:52.100 Now, do you think that we conservatives of limited government views believe we should have a car tax?

02:03:59.980 I sure as hell don't.

02:04:00.720 How about the AI restrictions?

02:04:04.300 Should we prohibit Florida and should we prohibit Texas from being able to have some sort of regulation on AI?

02:04:11.440 From a federalism standpoint, I'm not sure we should.

02:04:14.160 So there's lots of things in this bill that I knew all this was telling people about it.

02:04:19.040 But, man, there's only like 40 fights you can pick.

02:04:21.280 Like, my fight was, you're going to repeal these damned subsidies on the Inflation Reduction Act that are killing our grid, undermining our national security, and destroying natural gas and nuclear energy options. 0.78

02:04:34.760 My fight was trying to get Medicaid held down. 0.97

02:04:37.440 About 20 other fights.

02:04:38.820 For example, the car tax.

02:04:40.160 Scott Perry and I and a couple of others, we at least killed the tax on the internal combustion engines.

02:04:45.120 They weren't going to have a car tax on every car in America, y'all.

02:04:48.180 So, look, we're fighting everything we've got coming at us.

02:04:51.700 There are things that need to get fixed.

02:04:53.420 To answer your question, if they need to adjust SALT, I might try to call the bluff of the guys in the SALT caucus and say, really?

02:05:01.380 You're going to vote this down because you didn't get more subsidies for your great big blue state tax jurisdictions?

02:05:07.160 Right?

02:05:07.500 But if they want to try to call our bluff, I can tell you if they repeal back the Inflation Reduction Act stuff, which the president campaigned on, then that's going to be a real problem.

02:05:16.480 So we will see.

02:05:17.720 It is a fine line, and I'm trying to work with leadership, the White House, to deliver as close to my values as I can and be able to look in the mirror and say that I did enough.

02:05:29.880 And I'm not sure, gentlemen.

02:05:31.400 I'm always trying to shoot straight.

02:05:33.140 We're walking a line.

02:05:34.500 It could easily peel off and I can't support it.

02:05:36.760 It could move in the right direction, and I'll support it and say, let's go fight tomorrow for the next thing.

02:05:41.240 I'm trying to work in good faith with the president and his team to deliver.

02:05:45.380 There's a lot of good things in this bill.

02:05:46.900 Let's remember that.

02:05:48.320 A trillion dollars of real Medicaid reforms.

02:05:50.660 We've never done that before, guys, ever.

02:05:53.060 Right?

02:05:53.460 The Inflation Reduction Act, Planned Parenthood not funded, trans surgeries repealed for adults and kids to defund that.

02:06:01.440 The left had gone so far.

02:06:03.260 We're peeling a lot of that back.

02:06:04.560 So let's remember the good stuff while we're trying to, you know, highlight some of our concerns.

02:06:09.540 Chip, you're very reasoned, and I really appreciate talking to you, and I really am so glad that you are representing the great state of Texas.

02:06:19.200 You're a guy that at least I feel I can trust.

02:06:22.900 You know, you say what you mean, and you mean what you say, and that is the number one thing I look for in a representative, is somebody who will say the same thing to me, to my face, as they will behind closed doors.

02:06:34.140 And I really appreciate all your hard work on this.

02:06:36.280 Thanks, Chip.

02:06:37.760 Hey, I appreciate it, Glenn.

02:06:39.100 And thank you for exposing all this to the American people and being truthful about it.

02:06:42.400 Like, because this is hard for people like us, because you want to be with the team to move the ball down the field.

02:06:47.380 We want to succeed.

02:06:48.280 We want to win. 0.98

02:06:49.400 But you also don't want to be – you don't want to eat a crap sandwich. 0.96

02:06:51.720 So, look, I promise you I will level set the good and the bad and the ugly, and then you just have to decide what's the best for the country and vote and move forward. 0.94

02:07:00.540 So, that's where we are.

02:07:01.960 Next time it starts to move forward, you just – you call in and you let us know what's in it.

02:07:06.940 Okay?

02:07:07.120 Just make sure you get a hold of me.

02:07:08.220 As soon as you start to see things moving forward, you let us know, because I appreciate your point of view on that.

02:07:13.900 Thanks, Chip.

02:07:14.920 We live in a world obsessed with voices shouting to be heard, to be validated, to matter.

02:07:19.100 But there is a whole group of human beings that never get that chance, who never get to speak, who never even get to breathe.

02:07:24.960 The hardest part is the numbers are not going down.

02:07:29.120 Since Roe v. Wade was overturned, abortions in America have actually increased.

02:07:35.080 Last year alone, over a million unborn children lost their lives.

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02:10:37.340 We mentioned a couple of the representatives who were saying that they would have voted against this if they knew it was in the bill.

02:10:44.200 Mike Flood is one of them.

02:10:45.840 He said he would change his vote.

02:10:47.420 Marjorie Taylor Greene, the other.

02:10:51.420 Let's call that suboptimal.

02:10:55.760 This is Glenn Beck.

The Glenn Beck Program - June 04, 2025

Why Did Elon Musk Slam the 'Big, Beautiful Bill'？｜ Guests： Alan Dershowitz & Rep. Chip Roy ｜ 6⧸4⧸25

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The Glenn Beck Program - June 04, 2025

Why Did Elon Musk Slam the 'Big, Beautiful Bill'？ ｜ Guests： Alan Dershowitz & Rep. Chip Roy ｜ 6⧸4⧸25

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Why Did Elon Musk Slam the 'Big, Beautiful Bill'？｜ Guests： Alan Dershowitz & Rep. Chip Roy ｜ 6⧸4⧸25