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00:01:06.420 I have to tell you, it was a very confusing weekend in the United Kingdom.

00:01:11.620 Could we just play cut one here?

00:01:15.660 These are the climate activists laying down on the ground in front of the gay pride parade.

00:01:30.000 And so the client activists were spread out because they were quote-unquote dead because of the climate.

00:01:40.760 And the gay pride people couldn't get through.

00:01:45.260 And so they're screaming, you know, LGBTQ things.

00:01:49.980 And the others are screaming, just stop oil.

00:01:53.200 And quite honestly, I thought it was great.

00:01:56.620 I thought it was great.

00:01:58.300 Intersectionality is what I think you would call that.

00:02:01.080 We begin here in 60 seconds with Monday's radio program.

00:02:07.400 You know, Stu, in the Bible, there is the story of Cain and Abel.

00:02:13.320 And Cain made an offering to God of grains and crops, you know, vegetarian stuff.

00:02:21.340 And what did God do?

00:02:23.300 He rejected it.

00:02:24.800 He rejected it because he was like, look, I made the vegetables.

00:02:28.160 They're gross.

00:02:28.980 I don't even like them.

00:02:30.680 No.

00:02:31.320 And Abel made an offering of meat.

00:02:35.920 And he was like, I like him better than Cain or Stu.

00:02:42.300 And the rest of it is history.

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00:03:37.140 So we are, here we are at the beginning of July,

00:03:42.900 and I thought I would announce the theme for the month because I think we do that now.

00:03:48.580 We have themes.

00:03:49.940 You know, last month was Pride Month, and everybody was very prideful.

00:03:55.000 And I was sitting in church yesterday, and I was reading, and I was reading about pride.

00:04:03.760 And I don't think they meant like the gay pride parade, but I don't know.

00:04:10.640 Maybe they did.

00:04:11.500 But, you know, the whole pride goeth before the fall thing, not sure what that means.

00:04:19.260 But I don't think it means anything good.

00:04:24.240 And so I was reading the part where, you know, God is like, hey, don't be a prideful people.

00:04:28.920 Don't be a prideful.

00:04:29.220 And I'm thinking, hey, Pride Month.

00:04:31.940 That's, hmm.

00:04:33.020 Wow, that's kind of glad they don't mean it that way.

00:04:40.340 So I thought, you know, July is Independence Month, right?

00:04:46.180 I mean, it's the Declaration of Independence.

00:04:49.340 Tomorrow is the celebration of our independence as a nation.

00:04:55.720 And I'm pretty proud of our country, but I don't want to be prideful.

00:05:00.340 So I thought we should follow up Pride Month with Humility Month, where we can all be humble.

00:05:11.780 We're very proud of our country, but we're humble because we know we've made mistakes, too.

00:05:17.880 So we can be proud, yet humble.

00:05:21.260 And I just think it would be, I mean, they have a month of pride.

00:05:26.740 We should have a month of humility.

00:05:28.320 And I just think that would be, I've already made the t-shirts.

00:05:33.060 They're very nice.

00:05:33.720 It's a red, white, and blue rainbow.

00:05:36.200 So it's, what?

00:05:39.440 Something tells me this is not going to take off like Pride Month.

00:05:45.900 What do you mean?

00:05:47.420 Well, no, they won't take off the t-shirts like they do in Pride Month.

00:05:50.520 I mean, you do think, maybe you stop and pause for a moment and say, should we name a month

00:05:59.100 after one of the seven deadly sins?

00:06:00.760 I don't know.

00:06:01.740 Is that, you know, that's, yeah.

00:06:04.260 And I think there's more than the one of the seven deadly in that month.

00:06:08.860 Yeah.

00:06:09.560 Because I was trying to think.

00:06:11.760 I think you could go through all the months and start naming them after the seven deadly sins.

00:06:15.780 But if you come to Pride and you got to Lust and you think you should probably, I mean,

00:06:23.820 we're talking about what we're doing with our genitals all the time during Pride Month.

00:06:26.960 So Lust Month and Pride Month probably should both be June.

00:06:30.820 So I think if you combine them, you can call it Thrust Month.

00:06:35.300 We only have to have six months out of the year.

00:06:36.600 If you call it what?

00:06:37.940 Thrust Month.

00:06:39.340 Instead of Pride, instead of Lust, call it Thrust Month.

00:06:42.680 And you get both of them in there at the same time.

00:06:45.200 And it still strangely works.

00:06:48.260 It doesn't make you feel good about the world, but it works.

00:06:52.720 It works really, really well.

00:06:53.900 No, it does work.

00:06:54.900 And that way maybe we could, you know, we could still get Envy Month.

00:06:59.900 I like that one.

00:07:01.400 Yep.

00:07:01.680 Or Gluttony.

00:07:02.880 Gluttony is November.

00:07:03.900 That's November.

00:07:04.500 Yep.

00:07:04.840 Yep.

00:07:05.180 Yeah.

00:07:05.540 Gluttony's got to be November, I think for sure.

00:07:09.600 You know, February could be Envy Month because it doesn't have as many days as the others.

00:07:16.560 And it's jealous of how many days.

00:07:18.940 It could be.

00:07:19.480 It could be that.

00:07:21.080 What are the other ones out there, Glenn?

00:07:22.820 I mean, I'm, you know, no scholar here.

00:07:24.560 I don't know.

00:07:25.300 It's Pride, Envy, Gluttony.

00:07:28.800 Is it bad that I'm thinking of the Brad Pitt movie to try to put this together?

00:07:31.860 I really should have more institutional knowledge.

00:07:34.560 Yeah, I just know there was one of them that was killed in the kitchen.

00:07:37.640 Uh-huh.

00:07:38.800 That's, and he was fat.

00:07:42.040 But I think we already have that one.

00:07:43.320 We got that one, yeah.

00:07:45.220 Wrath?

00:07:45.620 Yeah, so.

00:07:46.900 Wrath is another.

00:07:47.880 Wrath.

00:07:48.300 Yep.

00:07:48.740 Wrath.

00:07:49.060 Wrath.

00:07:49.660 I don't know what wrath means exactly.

00:07:55.360 How, Stu, you're acting very wrath.

00:07:59.060 I mean, what?

00:07:59.980 Wrathful?

00:08:00.840 Anger, rage, hatred?

00:08:02.620 Let me tell you something.

00:08:02.720 It's wrath month.

00:08:03.860 Mm-hmm.

00:08:04.700 Is what?

00:08:05.460 Anger, rage, and hatred?

00:08:08.500 That's your wrath.

00:08:10.460 Wrath seems so biblical, though.

00:08:12.880 We're talking the seven deadly sins.

00:08:14.540 Can't we mainstream them a little bit?

00:08:16.500 Nobody is like, man, I woke up this morning on the wrong side of the bed, and I am full

00:08:21.120 of wrath.

00:08:21.860 That's true.

00:08:22.580 That's true.

00:08:23.260 I will say.

00:08:23.920 And so I went out, and I smote my neighbor.

00:08:26.640 I smote.

00:08:27.080 Smoted.

00:08:27.980 I smited.

00:08:29.260 I smote.

00:08:31.900 Greed should be April, because that's tax month.

00:08:34.960 That's when the government comes and takes all your money.

00:08:37.160 Yes, I like that.

00:08:37.600 So greed.

00:08:38.380 I like that.

00:08:38.980 I really, this is a good way to go.

00:08:41.200 So what could possibly go wrong if we create a society that names all of its months after

00:08:45.420 the seven deadly sins?

00:08:46.480 Is there anything?

00:08:48.280 I don't think there's a problem.

00:08:49.760 What could go wrong?

00:08:50.480 You won't give, but you will not give me Humility Month, will you?

00:08:54.500 I mean, look.

00:08:55.300 I'm serious about it.

00:08:56.600 I am serious about it.

00:08:57.740 I think we should have Humility Month after Pride Month, because that is the difference.

00:09:04.760 If, in America, we were humble, we would be grateful, and our problems would pretty much

00:09:13.280 go away, all we have to do is be humble and grateful, and things will really kind of work

00:09:20.260 out.

00:09:20.840 We need to focus less on pride in all ways, and I don't mean just, you know, the LGBTQ2 plus

00:09:29.520 S-I-A pride, I mean all pride, and be humble.

00:09:35.760 I am declaring July Humility Month.

00:09:39.840 I really like that, because I do think that we could use a dose of that in this country

00:09:45.220 from time to time.

00:09:46.220 Maybe a little too much pride over things you shouldn't have pride for, not even speaking

00:09:51.020 about whatever you want to put your genitals this week, but I mean, there's so many examples.

00:09:55.980 I mean, I'm so proud of our military.

00:10:00.800 We're the strongest military.

00:10:03.100 We can kill people faster than ever before.

00:10:06.220 I don't know.

00:10:07.040 I mean, I have pride that our military, well, our military had honor, you know, and was very

00:10:15.780 professional and not political and all those.

00:10:18.640 I can be proud of the men and women who are serving in it, but I, you know, I don't, you

00:10:23.880 know, I'm not sure that it should make us proud when we see a fighter that just cost

00:10:30.340 us, you know, $25 billion fly over our heads.

00:10:34.480 Wow!

00:10:35.860 I am proud.

00:10:37.120 Yeah, I mean, it's, I can see what you're saying there.

00:10:40.680 I mean, I was thinking more of just like the personal, you know, everyone's so proud of

00:10:45.900 themselves and all the things that they do and they're always bragging about it online

00:10:49.520 and, you know, like I just, that whole world is just destructive.

00:10:54.300 I know.

00:10:55.640 Humility month might go away to kill it, which would be good.

00:10:58.520 You know what might be good is if we, if we, if we elected Simon Cowell as president.

00:11:07.160 I don't know.

00:11:07.820 Because he could just every day he would give a speech and be like, you know, you're really

00:11:10.880 not all that.

00:11:11.800 Yeah.

00:11:12.000 I mean, you're not, I mean, I know you guys think you're really good, but not really.

00:11:18.240 No, not really.

00:11:19.020 Nobody's keeping you down.

00:11:20.900 Somebody should tell you, you suck because you're never going to make it.

00:11:25.500 You're not going to make it.

00:11:26.780 At least that would even it out a little bit.

00:11:28.140 I don't know if that's the right message, but I think we need a dose of that in our recipe,

00:11:32.620 right?

00:11:32.820 Like you need a dash at the top of the Simon Cowell that would at least bring you back

00:11:36.540 because everybody's like trying to tell you you're perfect all the time.

00:11:39.800 And you know what, you're not, I've seen you, you're not, you know, I, unfortunately

00:11:44.880 your clothing is very revealing and it's not, it's just not nice.

00:11:49.080 You don't look good.

00:11:50.300 And maybe every decision you make isn't perfect and maybe you're not the smartest and maybe

00:11:54.760 every single opinion you hold could actually be informed by some factual, again, a dash

00:12:01.780 of fact at the top of that recipe might be, might be good to finish it.

00:12:06.400 You're going wrath.

00:12:07.640 I mean, I think you're in wrath territory.

00:12:10.440 You are, you are in wrath month.

00:12:12.080 Hey, I want to talk to you also about something, um, that, uh, on, um, 4th of July, I'm, yeah,

00:12:18.960 I'm taking the day off.

00:12:20.280 Okay.

00:12:21.340 I'm taking the day off to honor our nation and also to eat hot dogs and see fireworks and

00:12:28.060 stuff.

00:12:28.300 But, um, so tomorrow I'm taking the day off, but on Wednesday, I'm going to take you through

00:12:34.660 the constitution and the declaration of independence.

00:12:36.960 I've been reading it the last few days and it's some pretty good stuff, Stu, pretty good

00:12:42.140 stuff.

00:12:42.600 We should read it from time to time.

00:12:44.340 Really?

00:12:44.880 Yeah.

00:12:45.300 Wow.

00:12:45.820 It's a little underrated right now.

00:12:48.180 Yeah.

00:12:48.420 It's a little underrated, you know, the average constitution last 17 years and ours is what

00:12:54.800 at two, almost two 50.

00:12:57.280 I mean, it's pretty good.

00:13:00.300 It's pretty good.

00:13:00.940 We should read it.

00:13:01.720 So we're gonna spend some time on that.

00:13:03.720 Um, uh, today I just, I, I want to spend some time on, uh, on history.

00:13:09.380 Then we're going to go to, uh, France.

00:13:11.840 Um, we have, uh, Ezra Levant who is in Paris right now and watching what's happening there.

00:13:18.740 It is insane what's going on there.

00:13:22.340 Then we have great historian on to tell us about, uh, Abraham Lincoln, kind of the dark

00:13:28.620 stuff of Abraham Lincoln.

00:13:30.020 Oh yeah.

00:13:30.720 There.

00:13:31.200 Oh yeah.

00:13:32.480 He may have had hands that big enough to play the piano quite well, but he never did.

00:13:37.560 Never took it up.

00:13:38.580 Uh, and so we're going to give you some of that stuff.

00:13:41.800 Uh, also Tim Ballard will be here today talking about the sound of freedom, a new movie that

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00:15:14.660 You know, I was, um, I was reading some stuff, uh, last night, uh, about American history

00:15:32.760 and watching some YouTube videos and it was just pissing me off cause they just got, they

00:15:38.760 just have so much wrong.

00:15:39.920 And, um, they're talking about the first draft of the declaration of independence and how

00:15:45.680 Thomas Jefferson had written this, uh, paragraph about wanting to get rid of slavery.

00:15:54.380 They didn't quote the paragraph.

00:15:55.860 They just said it.

00:15:56.860 And then they came out and they said, and Congress, uh, voted against because they didn't want any

00:16:03.320 mention of slavery in that document at all.

00:16:06.480 That is not true.

00:16:08.780 And I am so sick and tired of hearing the lies that, for instance, African Americans had

00:16:17.880 nothing to do with our founding.

00:16:19.940 Let me just tell you the story of the revolutionary war just by highlighting the black patriots.

00:16:28.220 So, uh, what happens first?

00:16:31.460 What is the first battle really for America's independence?

00:16:35.840 It's the Boston massacre.

00:16:38.000 The shot heard around the world that happened in 1770.

00:16:42.200 Who was the first guy that was killed?

00:16:46.040 The first guy that is killed in the Boston massacre.

00:16:49.500 This one, everyone should know.

00:16:52.260 Maybe not.

00:16:53.280 Maybe they don't teach it anymore, but Crispus addicts.

00:16:56.780 He was the first of all.

00:16:58.480 He was the first, uh, man to lose his life in the cause of American independence.

00:17:04.980 So it begins with the fall of a black man.

00:17:08.920 I don't know the white guy who fell second.

00:17:12.560 The first guy was Crispus addicts.

00:17:16.500 Then you go forward a little bit and it's 1775.

00:17:20.320 And we all know about Paul Revere, Paul Revere, William, uh, Dawes.

00:17:25.840 They went towards Lexington from Boston on April 18th, 1775.

00:17:32.200 But did you know about Wentworth Cheswell?

00:17:38.360 He headed North doing exactly the same things.

00:17:42.640 He was friends with, uh, Paul Revere and he headed North saying the British is coming.

00:17:50.140 The British is coming.

00:17:51.120 This guy is amazing.

00:17:54.240 His, uh, he was born on April 11th, 1746, but his grandfather was the first Cheswell in

00:18:04.940 New England and he was an enslaved laborer in New Hampshire.

00:18:09.300 He bought his own freedom.

00:18:11.100 And then in 1770, he purchased 20 acres of land.

00:18:16.280 Um, and it became part of the town of Newmarket.

00:18:19.840 He was the first known black landowner in New Hampshire.

00:18:25.220 He marries, uh, a woman and together they have one child named Hope Still Cheswell.

00:18:32.760 He becomes a successful house builder and carpenter.

00:18:36.900 He helps build the bell tavern in Portsmouth.

00:18:40.120 He builds the home for John Paul Jones, the Samuel Langdon house.

00:18:45.460 And he then takes his money from his earnings and he buys over a hundred acres, which he farmed.

00:18:52.840 He also was the part owner of a sawmill.

00:18:56.900 So then he gets married and has a kid.

00:19:00.560 And that kid is Wentworth Cheswell.

00:19:04.500 He's, he goes to school.

00:19:07.040 Remember, he's a black man.

00:19:08.520 He goes to school.

00:19:09.880 He's well-educated because his father owns land, uh, and has a lot of money.

00:19:15.760 So he sends him to a really good school.

00:19:18.000 Um, he graduates, he, uh, purchases his first plot of land from his dad.

00:19:25.560 Then he, uh, acquires another 30 acres of land.

00:19:29.640 He owns a pew in the church and he married, uh, his, uh, longtime girlfriend and they had 13 children.

00:19:38.660 By 1770, his estate had grown to 114 acres.

00:19:45.480 Now, 1768, he's 22.

00:19:49.860 And at 22, he was elected as the town constable.

00:19:54.600 First known black man to hold public office in the Americas.

00:19:58.900 And he was the justice of the peace.

00:20:02.460 He was the auditor, uh, selectman, the notary, the assessor, the coroner, the town moderator.

00:20:09.600 And he also was the guy to deliver messages by ringing the bell at night and doing exactly what Paul Revere did.

00:20:17.780 So he's the guy who rides for Paul Revere.

00:20:22.040 Also, he is so well-respected.

00:20:25.860 Many people call him a black founder.

00:20:28.920 I categorize people who actually signed or write, uh, wrote the declaration, uh, as the founders.

00:20:36.480 But many people say he is a founder because he was so important.

00:20:41.400 And, in fact, Benjamin Franklin, as they were doing the, uh, declaration, Cheswell was asked, uh, to write the new state constitution.

00:20:53.680 So you have, you have him.

00:20:56.360 Then you have the most important battle of the American Revolution, the battle of, battle of Bunker Hill.

00:21:02.620 Peter Salem is there.

00:21:04.360 He's a black man.

00:21:05.540 He is a freed slave.

00:21:08.220 He's fighting for America.

00:21:09.980 As everybody in, in the American troops were retreating because we were getting creamed.

00:21:15.660 The British are coming on top of us and they're about to knock our army out completely.

00:21:22.020 And Peter Salem stands up and he realizes if I shoot the commander, it'll give us enough time to get away.

00:21:30.360 So all the white people are running.

00:21:32.400 Then he stands, fires a shot, uh, and wounds and kills the, uh, commander.

00:21:41.780 They take a pause to study that for a second and we escape to fight another day.

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00:23:08.460 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:23:31.520 I want to quote Teddy Roosevelt before we go to France.

00:23:37.360 Teddy Roosevelt said,

00:23:38.980 There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism.

00:23:43.380 When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I don't refer to naturalized Americans.

00:23:48.440 Some are the very best Americans I've ever known.

00:23:52.600 And they were naturalized Americans.

00:23:55.060 Americans born abroad.

00:23:56.840 But hyphenated American is not an American at all.

00:23:59.880 The one absolutely certain intricate knot of German Americans, Irish Americans, English Americans, French Americans, Scandinavian Americans, Italian Americans, each preserving its separate nationality.

00:24:17.220 Each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality than with other citizens of the American Republic.

00:24:25.880 There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American.

00:24:32.100 Only the only man who is a good American is the man who decides to become an American and nothing else.

00:24:42.220 I think he's absolutely right.

00:24:44.060 And proof of that is what is happening in France this weekend.

00:24:48.540 Ezra Levant is in France.

00:24:50.700 Now, where are you, Ezra?

00:24:52.000 Ezra Levant, I'm standing in Marseille, which is one of the largest cities in France.

00:24:57.580 It's on the Mediterranean coast.

00:24:59.140 It's a beautiful city, incredibly picturesque.

00:25:01.640 But there are two Marseilles.

00:25:03.500 There's the beautiful French part of Marseille that you would see in a postcard.

00:25:07.720 But just literally a few blocks away from the tourist center, it is what I think could be fairly called a slum.

00:25:14.100 With many migrants, usually from a Muslim country, particularly Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, but also Iraq, Turkey.

00:25:22.640 And it's very apart.

00:25:24.920 On those streets, you don't hear any French being spoken.

00:25:28.280 The commerce is very different.

00:25:31.560 It's a different industry.

00:25:32.600 And there's a real separation.

00:25:36.020 And I think that the shooting of this 17-year-old North African young man, Nahel is his name, the police, he sort of was in a chase.

00:25:46.780 The police stopped him and they shot him.

00:25:49.980 And it was shocking.

00:25:51.400 And I have to say, obviously, we'll see what the facts are in the end.

00:25:55.280 But I don't know if he needed to be shot.

00:25:56.980 He was a 17-year-old.

00:25:58.040 They knew who he was.

00:25:58.920 He was stopped already.

00:25:59.860 That was the spark.

00:26:02.160 But that spark lit a lot of tinder that has been festering for decades.

00:26:06.780 And there's a real apartness.

00:26:08.580 It's almost apartheid, except for much of it is self-imposed.

00:26:12.940 Here's a quick thing.

00:26:13.600 I went along the cafes.

00:26:15.620 There's a lot of cafes in the tourist spots here, Glenn, with out-of-towners and French people.

00:26:20.860 And there's men and women, and they're dressed, as you might expect, in a tropical place.

00:26:24.840 But you go a few blocks further into the Muslim neighborhoods, they still have cafes.

00:26:29.240 But you'll notice a difference.

00:26:31.520 There's no women at them.

00:26:33.300 It's just men.

00:26:35.140 And the odd woman you do see is wearing an abaya from head-to-toe.

00:26:40.020 Now, there's a law in France that you cannot cover the face with a veil.

00:26:43.320 They actually banned that.

00:26:45.380 But COVID-19 gave a lot of folks a workaround.

00:26:48.600 So you see Muslim women head-to-toe and then the COVID mask.

00:26:51.980 I asked a lot of these folks in my broken French, I said, how do you feel being a Muslim in France?

00:26:59.820 And the more assimilated ones said, we love it.

00:27:03.020 We love France.

00:27:04.740 We know there are races here and there, but it's not systemically racist.

00:27:08.300 I would say, is there racism back in Algeria?

00:27:10.480 They said, yes.

00:27:11.200 So there were some beautiful answers that were very much on point with your quote from Roosevelt.

00:27:14.900 But there were other people who said, French don't respect us, French don't treat us equally.

00:27:20.460 But then I said, in your heart, are you a French person first or an Algerian first?

00:27:25.960 And most of them, without hesitating, said Algerian.

00:27:30.020 In fact, a man and his young boy came up to me and they wanted to say a lot about Nihal, the 17-year-old kid who was killed.

00:27:36.460 And I listened to them and I said, who are you in your heart?

00:27:40.000 Are you an Algerian or are you a Frenchman?

00:27:42.080 And they were so proud to say Algerian.

00:27:44.700 And I was thinking, how can you be upset that the French don't welcome you fully as an equal Frenchman when you yourself refused to give up where you were, except for to come here?

00:27:55.840 I said, if France is so racist, I said to some of them, why did you come here?

00:28:00.300 And so I think both sides have some reconciling to do because you have a de facto apartheid.

00:28:07.800 But here's the thing how that's going to end.

00:28:10.760 Demographics.

00:28:12.080 I mean, France has a declining birth rate for the ethnic French, whereas not only through continued mass immigration, but just through birthright, the city of Marseille will go the way the city of Malmo, Sweden has gone.

00:28:25.640 It will be beautiful still.

00:28:28.180 It'll still have the gorgeous sun and the port and the yachts and the cafes, but it'll be more like a Moroccan city than a French city.

00:28:37.340 The world is changing, and it's because I think France, and maybe America has something to say about this too, is welcoming in people who are not willing to say America is first in my heart.

00:28:50.200 You know, I agree with Teddy Roosevelt on immigrant Americans, naturalized Americans.

00:29:00.880 They're some of the best Americans out there, and they're the ones who chose America.

00:29:07.720 The guy I work with who is Scottish, he loves Scotland, and he came here, and he was thinking about citizenship.

00:29:18.820 And when he went back to Scotland just recently, he said,

00:29:23.040 I saw Scotland for what it really is, because I now have the perspective of living in Texas and in America.

00:29:31.800 And he said, I'm American.

00:29:34.280 I am not Scottish.

00:29:35.640 I'm American.

00:29:37.040 That renews all of us.

00:29:40.000 You know, that kind of guy comes in, and he starts businesses, and he starts to take advantage of the opportunities.

00:29:47.520 And that is the big difference.

00:29:50.640 I want immigrants here that are coming in, and they want to be Americans.

00:29:57.000 I don't want an Italian coming in and saying, I want an Italian community, and we're going to have our own rules and our own ways here.

00:30:07.520 No.

00:30:08.640 Bring your culture with you, but become an American.

00:30:13.080 You know, Charles de Gaulle, the great French leader, whose name literally means Frenchman,

00:30:20.560 he was considered arrogant, and he was considered many things, and he was a, you know, trans-first kind of person.

00:30:30.720 You remember, France had colonies in North Africa.

00:30:33.560 He was once asked, can a foreigner become a Frenchman?

00:30:37.460 Like, in his blood, can you become French?

00:30:40.500 Can you join this country, even if your bloodline is not French?

00:30:44.480 And he said, yes.

00:30:47.540 He was a chauvinist.

00:30:49.820 He was arrogant.

00:30:51.380 He was trans-first, but he said, yes.

00:30:54.000 If you inculcate yourself, if you breathe in the history, the culture, you must learn the language, learn the history, learn the art.

00:31:02.600 You can become a great Frenchman.

00:31:04.960 And by the way, Emmanuel Macron, for all of his flaws, says much the same thing.

00:31:09.360 He gave a beautiful speech three years ago, right in the wake of a lot of the Black Lives Matter riots in America.

00:31:15.560 He gave a beautiful speech in France, swearing in some new French citizens, where he talked about their rights, but he went heavy on their responsibility.

00:31:24.280 You know those old French mottos, liberté, égalité, fraternité.

00:31:29.980 Emmanuel Macron said you must follow those.

00:31:32.640 You must fight for liberty, for everyone.

00:31:35.360 You must permanently struggle for liberty.

00:31:37.260 He told these immigrants.

00:31:38.640 He said you must follow fraternity.

00:31:41.100 You must be fraternal to your new French citizen colleagues.

00:31:44.340 He said you must put the republic first.

00:31:46.380 He said this.

00:31:47.720 Now, I do not like Emmanuel Macron at all, but it was bracing to see what he said.

00:31:53.340 Alas, his deeds don't live up to his words, and it is not happening.

00:31:57.240 And I fear for what's, you know, this is one of the most beautiful cities I've ever been in, Glenn.

00:32:01.800 But there is a shadow over it.

00:32:04.360 And there were 1,300 people arrested in riots two nights ago.

00:32:08.720 Average age was 17.

00:32:10.300 And that's the thing.

00:32:11.020 I look at the police, and I don't believe in affirmative action, but the police feel like they're an alien community.

00:32:18.460 They have no ties to the community.

00:32:19.920 There are very few minorities in the police.

00:32:22.260 They don't speak Arabic.

00:32:23.420 They have no, and half the time, they're just defending themselves or the firemen.

00:32:27.940 You know, they torture a place.

00:32:29.020 The firemen go in.

00:32:30.140 They attack the fire trucks.

00:32:31.860 The police have to go in to escort the fire trucks out.

00:32:34.420 It's almost like, you know, some of these dystopian movies like Blade Runner or something, where the police are this foreign, hated, alien, disconnected force.

00:32:44.360 And they're going to lose just from pure demographics.

00:32:47.680 You know, there's the bodies in Britain.

00:32:49.680 So, Robert...

00:32:50.420 Sorry to interrupt, but that was the secret of American police in New York.

00:32:59.820 The Irish guy, who had become an American, he was the guy who patrolled his own neighborhood.

00:33:08.760 The Italian guy, he patrolled his own neighborhood.

00:33:12.440 And so, they weren't a foreign force.

00:33:15.480 The problem with this is that, at least in New York, the New Yorkers cannot afford to live in most of those neighborhoods.

00:33:25.280 The police can't.

00:33:26.420 So, they are a foreign, you know, they're not part of the community anymore.

00:33:31.920 And you can't have people who swear allegiance first to Algeria being the cop for France.

00:33:41.780 Well, that's the thing.

00:33:42.760 Does your oath mean something?

00:33:43.840 Now, by the way, one of the answers I got was, I said, are you Algerian first or are you French first?

00:33:48.640 You said Allah first, and I believe in the Ummah.

00:33:51.860 And you know what?

00:33:52.440 In some ways, that's like a Christian who would say, I put Jesus first.

00:33:55.540 And I respect that, but as the Bible says, render unto Caesar what's Caesar.

00:34:00.560 So, yes, in your heart, your conscience, your morality, if you want to put Allah first, I get it.

00:34:06.200 Because if a Christian said, I put Jesus first, I would respect that.

00:34:10.100 I wouldn't say you're a bad American.

00:34:12.000 But in matters secular, in matters of civil law and order, in matters of police and learning the language,

00:34:18.540 you have to put Caesar first, or in this case, put the Republic first.

00:34:22.040 And isn't that what an Ummah means, the opposite of that?

00:34:29.140 Doesn't an Ummah kind of suggest a caliphate kind of...

00:34:37.520 A global, yeah.

00:34:38.640 A global government of sorts.

00:34:42.500 And, you know, by the way, he later ran up there and demanded...

00:34:46.040 Yes, that's right.

00:34:47.720 It's very different.

00:34:48.800 So, listen, this is a beautiful city, but terrible things are happening.

00:34:52.860 And it's spreading to Belgium.

00:34:54.840 It's spreading to Switzerland.

00:34:56.420 Why is that?

00:34:57.580 It's an ethnic solidarity.

00:34:59.240 And I think that massive, unabsorbed, unintegrated immigration, in this case from Islam, is going to be a problem no matter what.

00:35:08.060 De Gaulle insisted on absorption, assimilation, integration.

00:35:12.580 He said, yes, you can become French.

00:35:15.160 I asked some of these guys, could you ever...

00:35:17.320 I said, Barack Obama became a black president.

00:35:19.820 Rishi Sunak is a South Asian prime minister of the UK.

00:35:23.160 I said, could you imagine a Muslim president of France?

00:35:27.320 And most of them said no.

00:35:28.820 And maybe that's a problem, too.

00:35:31.520 If you can't imagine yourself having full access to the corridors of business and political and cultural life, I guess you do ghettoize yourself.

00:35:41.940 But it's a two-sided problem, Glenn.

00:35:44.700 I don't know.

00:35:45.400 It's very sad.

00:35:46.840 I came here not knowing what to expect, and I leave with a feeling of fatalism that between demographics, open border immigration, and political correctness,

00:35:56.380 all of these trends will get worse over time, not better.

00:35:59.320 And I think that there's a whole new level of violence we saw this last week that I...

00:36:05.120 I mean, listen, there's always riots in France.

00:36:06.680 It's a national pastime.

00:36:08.100 But this felt especially ethnic in its character.

00:36:14.580 Well, I will tell you, the Norwegian countries are facing the same.

00:36:18.380 I was just over in...

00:36:21.340 I love those French police cars.

00:36:23.460 They sound like toys.

00:36:24.320 But I was just over in England and Scotland and Ireland.

00:36:30.940 Ireland is almost entirely gone because of the rapid immigration without assimilation.

00:36:40.320 It is...

00:36:41.180 The world and Europe is completely changing and won't be the same in 20 years.

00:36:48.920 Thank you so much, Ezra.

00:36:50.780 Have a safe trip back to Canada.

00:36:52.380 We thank you for everything that you guys do up in Canada.

00:36:56.540 Thank you very much.

00:36:56.940 Thank you.

00:36:58.200 You bet.

00:36:58.800 Thank you, Glenn.

00:36:59.400 Bye-bye.

00:37:00.540 You bet.

00:37:01.040 All right.

00:37:01.600 That is Ezra Levant.

00:37:03.960 He is a host of the Ezra Levant Show, and he is Rebel News, the founder of Rebel News up in Canada.

00:37:11.600 Canada is another one that...

00:37:13.380 That one is really getting spooky.

00:37:17.080 To me, Canada is more spooky than even France is because this is people that you think you understand and think are regular Canadians, and they are not Canadians.

00:37:31.260 I mean, they are Canadians, but I don't understand how they are coming to the conclusion that, you know, if you are a kid and you are depressed, the state should be able to recommend suicide to you.

00:37:43.720 It is insanity what is going on in Canada.

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00:39:03.380 I swear to you, France is going to end in guillotines as it usually does.

00:39:28.540 I mean, you know they use the guillotine.

00:39:31.900 The last execution on a guillotine, I think, was 1978.

00:39:38.000 Yeah.

00:39:39.620 Yeah.

00:39:40.760 Look it up, Stu.

00:39:41.900 Stu's looking at me like, no.

00:39:45.020 It's 76 or 78, something like that.

00:39:48.300 Yeah, they...

00:39:49.580 And in some ways, I think it is more humane than, for instance, hanging or certainly the electric chair.

00:39:56.220 Uh, the guillotine is...

00:39:58.700 We have one at the museum, if you're coming to our museum in the next couple of days.

00:40:02.680 We have a French guillotine that was used.

00:40:06.000 Uh, and it's not sharp.

00:40:09.380 It's the thickness and the heavy weight of the blade.

00:40:13.960 It just comes down and just lops the head off, just from the weight of it.

00:40:19.800 It's a terrifying machine.

00:40:21.540 By the way...

00:40:21.800 Terrifying.

00:40:22.300 Glenn, you were way off.

00:40:23.340 You said in 76 or 78.

00:40:24.720 It was 1977.

00:40:27.540 You're an embarrassment.

00:40:29.420 You're an embarrassment.

00:40:31.900 The one year in between I didn't name.

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00:41:27.580 Hello, America.

00:41:31.180 Welcome to July.

00:41:33.960 June was Pride Month.

00:41:35.840 July, Humility Month.

00:41:38.320 I think we should, you know...

00:41:40.920 I was in church yesterday and I was reading the scriptures and I'm, you know, uh, thinking, wow, there's a lot of talk about pride here on how bad it is.

00:41:49.740 One of the seven deadly sins.

00:41:51.880 Um, and I'm sure Pride Month also includes a couple of the other deadly sins.

00:41:57.560 But, um, you, uh, you follow that up with what we should be doing and that is humbling ourselves and being grateful for what we have.

00:42:08.080 Uh, so I declare July Humility Month, a perfect follow-up for Pride Month.

00:42:15.600 We begin the program in 60 seconds.

00:42:18.520 Stand by.

00:42:19.260 First, this month we are celebrating the creation of our country.

00:42:25.000 The, the ideas behind our country.

00:42:28.860 And we, uh, also, uh, are protecting the heroes that fought to protect those rights.

00:42:36.200 Sadly, though, there are Americans today who don't have the freedom of life and liberty because it was taken away from them before they even had a chance to fully experience it outside of the womb.

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00:43:58.820 Steven Mansfield is, uh, joining us.

00:44:01.840 He is, uh, a great, great writer.

00:44:05.000 He has written many books, the faith of Barack Obama.

00:44:08.660 Um, he was, uh, also the faith of George W.

00:44:13.420 Bush.

00:44:13.980 He's written biographies of Booker T.

00:44:16.980 Washington, George Whitefield, Winston Churchill, Pope Benedict, uh, Abraham Lincoln.

00:44:22.800 And he also wrote the book, Killing Jesus Publishers Weekly describes his book, Killing Jesus is masterful.

00:44:30.960 I think it's genius.

00:44:33.060 I haven't even read it, but it's the same name as Bill O'Reilly's book.

00:44:37.400 And I know Steven's book has got to be better.

00:44:41.660 So it makes me happy.

00:44:43.460 Uh, Steven Mansfield.

00:44:44.880 Welcome to the program.

00:44:45.760 How are you, sir?

00:44:46.940 Good morning, sir.

00:44:48.080 How are you?

00:44:48.560 And don't get me in trouble with Bill now.

00:44:52.780 Um, uh, I want to talk to you about several people that you have written about, but let's

00:44:58.180 start with seeing that we're, you know, on the, um, the, the doorstep of 4th of July and

00:45:03.440 Independence Day tomorrow.

00:45:04.480 Uh, let's, let's spend some time with, uh, Lincoln because, uh, Lincoln is a fascinating

00:45:14.040 guy before he starts running for office.

00:45:18.600 He's kind of a dark dude.

00:45:20.600 He had a really tough childhood and then he goes kind of off the wagon a bit.

00:45:28.500 Lincoln was a very unusual character.

00:45:30.700 And if I think it's why he's one of the most beloved in our history and what people often

00:45:34.660 don't know is that he suffered horrible depression, uh, growing up.

00:45:39.960 Uh, and this was largely due to the deaths that he endured in his life.

00:45:43.640 As you, as you allude to, he lost his mother when he was nine.

00:45:47.360 He lost his sister when he was, she was, uh, he, when he was 19, we famously, he lost the

00:45:52.960 first love of his life, uh, and Rutledge, uh, when he was in his early twenties.

00:45:57.580 And then of course, throughout his life, he would lose two sons and then have to endure

00:46:02.340 all the over 700,000 deaths of the civil war.

00:46:05.680 So friends said that he dripped melancholy while he walked, they often had to stand

00:46:10.780 suicide watch.

00:46:12.340 Uh, he missed his first wedding date because he was considering suicide.

00:46:15.760 So, um, very dark figure, uh, very sad, beset by depression.

00:46:21.200 And, uh, uh, and this, this affected everything from his faith to his understanding of the civil

00:46:26.120 war.

00:46:26.460 So yes, it's, it's, he's a very, very complicated character.

00:46:29.340 Now, is it true, Steven, in your research that, um, uh, Lincoln really, his father was

00:46:38.640 a horrible guy and alcoholic and a Christian and, um, and Lincoln rejected Christianity

00:46:46.160 at first, uh, when he first kind of goes out on his own because, uh, of what he thought

00:46:53.180 a Christian was due to his father and he apparently, yes, yeah, it was not a moral character at

00:47:01.780 first Lincoln.

00:47:03.700 Well, he was, he was a kind of character.

00:47:05.640 Uh, the father was a kind of character that we are, we are familiar with from literature

00:47:09.580 and history, very religious, very sentimentally, emotionally religious, and yet brutal to his

00:47:15.560 son.

00:47:15.880 Um, right.

00:47:17.760 One of the best stories I can tell to describe this is that when Lincoln was president, he

00:47:23.060 once spoke to a room full of ex-slaves and quite literally said that he knew what slavery

00:47:29.380 was because he had been used like a slave.

00:47:33.680 And he was referring to his first 20 years, 21 years of life when he was under his father's

00:47:38.880 dominion.

00:47:40.180 And of course, the people in the room kind of looked askance at each other like, well, Abraham

00:47:43.460 Lincoln was never a slave, but that's how he spoke of it because that's how oppressed

00:47:47.820 he felt himself to be.

00:47:49.520 And yes, you're right.

00:47:50.460 When he left his father's home at the age of 21, he owed his father his labor before

00:47:54.700 then, um, he went and thoroughly rejected Christianity, uh, read a lot of the rationalistic

00:48:01.640 writers, Payne and others, um, fell in with a lot of religious skeptics in New Salem and,

00:48:07.040 um, was actually carried a Bible around town just to argue with people about it.

00:48:11.000 So yes, he was the village for a lot of years.

00:48:14.740 And he also was very promiscuous, but freaked out because he thought he was going to get

00:48:21.820 some venereal disease.

00:48:23.180 Is that true?

00:48:24.260 He exactly true.

00:48:25.700 He was a fought in a war called the black Hawk war.

00:48:29.080 And he apparently had some time with prostitutes and later, yes, worried that he had problems

00:48:34.860 and maybe even his depression was related to various kinds of venereal diseases.

00:48:38.640 So yes, very immoral, uh, he never gave himself much to drink.

00:48:42.200 He tried drink for a while and really lost control.

00:48:45.380 Uh, but yes, immoral, atheist, angry, we know the type.

00:48:48.960 And that's what Abraham Lincoln was for a good number of years.

00:48:52.720 And what was the turning point in his life?

00:48:56.760 The turning point probably came gradually as he began to know, uh, ministers who were better

00:49:05.340 than the ones he had known in his early life began to, and we all know that he became a

00:49:10.600 state legislator and, uh, began to live in Springfield, moving from a town called New

00:49:15.220 Salem.

00:49:15.900 And when he got there, he fell in with a bunch of, with, with Christians, um, who were articulate,

00:49:21.360 who were learned, who were well-read.

00:49:22.900 They weren't just the, the teary eyed sentimentalists, um, emotionally imbalanced, kind of like his father

00:49:28.880 was.

00:49:30.000 And so he, he began, he came among, you know, a simple way to say it is a better class of

00:49:34.880 Christians.

00:49:35.980 Um, the turning point really came when he met a Presbyterian minister named James Smith.

00:49:42.260 This is a little later in his life now.

00:49:44.840 Um, he was a congressman, his, uh, stepfather-in-law had died and he was taking care of the estate.

00:49:51.700 He pulled a book down in his father-in-law's house written by this Presbyterian minister,

00:49:57.040 James Smith, kind of a cross between Billy Graham and Daniel Boone.

00:50:00.880 Uh, but the man could really write, and he made a lawyer's case for Christianity, which

00:50:05.320 of course Lincoln, as a lawyer, respected.

00:50:07.780 And that really began to turn things.

00:50:10.580 And then of course, uh, a progression began that carried him all the way through the White

00:50:15.100 House years.

00:50:16.700 So he did say though, uh, I wasn't a Christian, um, when I got married, I think he said, I wasn't

00:50:24.920 a Christian when I, uh, lost my son.

00:50:29.480 Um, but I became a Christian at Gettysburg.

00:50:33.960 Do I have that right?

00:50:36.220 That, that is a quote that is out there.

00:50:38.560 It's hard to verify.

00:50:40.460 Um, there's no question he had a deepening when he stood at Gettysburg.

00:50:44.760 Scholars tend to discredit that quote.

00:50:47.240 It's, it's sort of the same thing with all famous men who spoke well, like the Churchill,

00:50:51.980 others, did he say it or didn't he?

00:50:54.280 Scholars tend to discredit that, but I don't think there's any question that Lincoln had

00:50:57.860 a profound experience when he looked out on the graves at Gettysburg and, um, and he,

00:51:02.420 he alluded to it often, uh, to visitors at the White House.

00:51:05.860 But, but, but the thing that really deepened his faith, the real things that really changed

00:51:10.000 things were the, the deaths of his boys.

00:51:12.900 Um, imagine that he lost two boys and lost them by the way, to horrible diseases that lingered

00:51:19.060 a long time.

00:51:20.520 Um, and this just sent Lincoln already depressive, right, right to the edge of sanity, really.

00:51:26.380 Um, and, and of course, famously, Mrs. Lincoln was known for her on just a loud, uh, extreme

00:51:34.160 bouts of grief.

00:51:35.500 She would fill the house later, the White House with, with howls.

00:51:39.360 The, the servants would describe them like the howls of wounded animals.

00:51:42.440 And so it wasn't just Lincoln's grief that he had to deal with.

00:51:46.040 It was the grief of his, of his wife that would go on for weeks and be terrible.

00:51:50.720 Um, he finally took her to a window one time and pointed at a mental institution in DC and

00:51:55.320 said, mother, if you don't get control of yourself, we'll have to put you there.

00:51:58.560 And that got her to tame herself a little bit.

00:52:00.420 But Lincoln, Lincoln dealt with agonizing deaths his whole life.

00:52:04.200 And he said once famously that he was haunted by the sound of water, of rain falling on graves.

00:52:12.180 Well, he had so many graves in his life that he would visit and of course had to attend funerals

00:52:16.880 of people he loved.

00:52:17.920 So all of this, uh, though it sounds dark, is what caused him to search.

00:52:23.480 And it was at those moments that James Smith, this, this Presbyterian minister at First Presbyterian

00:52:27.680 in Springfield, stepped into his life and gave a, as the scriptures say, a reason for the

00:52:33.020 hope that lies within Christians.

00:52:34.540 I have a rational explanation and Lincoln bought it.

00:52:37.340 And I think that was those times were the turnings for him.

00:52:41.080 You know, you say that, um, you know, the way you describe him while he's in the white

00:52:45.900 house and her, I can't imagine that a president would have been able to remain the president

00:52:51.140 today, um, just with the media and everything else.

00:52:55.520 I mean, that's disturbing.

00:52:57.460 It's, I mean, you know, close to insanity.

00:53:01.660 Absolutely.

00:53:02.140 When he lost Willie, um, named for William Wallace, by the way, uh, as a young boy in

00:53:08.120 the white house, Lincoln would close the, his office and sit in the dark all day, every

00:53:14.600 Thursday.

00:53:15.740 So he would grieve sitting in the dark.

00:53:17.580 Now imagine that a modern president turns out the lights, closes the West wing or, or,

00:53:22.660 or the Oval Office and, um, sits in the dark, uh, just, just in a depressive grief all day

00:53:28.480 long.

00:53:28.700 And people of course would question the sanity, but this is what Lincoln did for quite some

00:53:32.700 time until finally, uh, fairly famous minister made an appointment with him and said, sir,

00:53:38.240 what you're doing is not right.

00:53:39.700 Don't you know that if you believe on Jesus Christ, you will go, though your son cannot

00:53:44.460 come to you, you will go to him.

00:53:46.020 And this was a massive turning point in Lincoln's life.

00:53:49.900 And he stopped those Thursday darkness depression, uh, sessions, um, and he began to search the

00:53:55.820 scriptures more thoroughly and buy copies of this minister's sermons.

00:53:59.520 And so, uh, again, Lincoln is on a journey.

00:54:02.640 There's a progression.

00:54:03.500 You don't have one moment of a full turning, but you definitely have a leaving of the atheist

00:54:08.760 years and a deepening, a constant deepening, largely inspired by his recovery from grief

00:54:14.540 and from, from the deaths of those he loved.

00:54:16.600 Um, when he was, um, president, um, they say he didn't care about slavery.

00:54:25.480 I don't believe that to be true.

00:54:27.900 Um, and I, uh, it's my understanding that he had a relationship somewhat, uh, with, uh,

00:54:34.420 John Quincy Adams who kind of passed the torch to him on anti-slavery.

00:54:40.180 Is that true?

00:54:41.800 It is.

00:54:42.580 It is.

00:54:43.040 They, they did know each other.

00:54:44.160 They did correspond in the early years.

00:54:46.020 And it's, it's folly of course, to say that he didn't care about slavery.

00:54:49.320 I mean, uh, not only do we know about his famous trip to, to new Orleans, where he said,

00:54:53.660 if I ever get a chance to hit this thing, speaking of slavery, I will.

00:54:56.780 Um, also when he was a Congressman for a very short period of time, only about 12, 14 months,

00:55:02.580 um, he proposed a bill that would have outlawed slavery in DC.

00:55:05.980 Um, he proposed the same kind of bill in, uh, Springfield back in, back in Illinois.

00:55:12.040 Um, so the idea, and by the way, we have some of the most fascinating writings we have from

00:55:17.120 Lincoln are where he's sitting alone at night in his office and he's sort of wrestling with

00:55:21.460 God, wrestling with his conscience.

00:55:23.020 What does providence want?

00:55:24.700 God can't be a for the same thing and against it at the same time.

00:55:28.860 He would, he would wrestle with his conscience on, on, uh, you know, scraps of paper.

00:55:33.680 And fortunately, when he died, his secretaries kept those for us and we still have them.

00:55:38.320 But to say he didn't care about slavery is silly.

00:55:40.360 Of course, he, he, he deeply cared about it.

00:55:43.780 And it actually was part, just since we're talking about his faith, it was part of the

00:55:47.520 reason that he, uh, you know, was troubled about the state of Christianity.

00:55:52.240 He couldn't believe that Southern clergy would make a case for slavery from scripture.

00:55:56.760 And since he identified with the slaves deeply because of his own labors, he, he, he was,

00:56:01.360 he was troubled by all of that.

00:56:02.780 Yeah.

00:56:03.680 We're talking to Steven Mansfield.

00:56:05.700 Uh, he wrote the book Lincoln's battle with God.

00:56:09.160 He also has done biographies of a lot of other people and we're going to talk to him about

00:56:13.740 that.

00:56:14.320 Um, but a little bit more with Lincoln here in just a second.

00:56:16.980 First, let me take 60 seconds and then we're back to Steven.

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00:57:43.380 Steven Mansfield.

00:57:53.980 He is, um, the author of Lincoln's battle with God.

00:57:58.940 Um, Steven, when did the tide turn on Abraham Lincoln far as public opinion?

00:58:06.720 I know when he was first in Baltimore on his way to the white house, you know, and there,

00:58:11.980 there's a plot to kill him.

00:58:13.940 He really understands how much of the country hates him.

00:58:19.540 Um, and he's, you know, when he's, uh, going into the war, it's not going well.

00:58:27.380 Uh, when did the tide turn for him?

00:58:30.920 When, when did he become Abraham Lincoln?

00:58:35.300 Well, it's interesting that the tide never did really turn in a massive way for him during

00:58:42.640 his life.

00:58:43.900 Um, he was hated.

00:58:45.120 He was vilified.

00:58:45.960 Of course, he was hated by half the country, uh, in a, during a civil war, but he wasn't

00:58:50.640 all that popular in the North.

00:58:52.000 And as you've just said, you know, as he makes his journey by train into DC, he's having

00:58:56.120 to hide and even dress like a woman at one point, be covered up by his bodyguard.

00:58:59.780 Um, I would say frankly that he, his, the tide really didn't turn until his death, uh, people

00:59:06.480 because he was victorious, uh, in the civil war because he was killed on a good Friday.

00:59:12.540 Um, people began to realize that this was our redeemer president.

00:59:16.300 This was our, our, our liberator, the great emancipator.

00:59:19.740 And, and by the way, because he did things like the emancipation proclamation saying publicly

00:59:24.220 that he did it out of a covenant with God.

00:59:26.180 Um, people remembered these things when he was killed.

00:59:29.020 And I would say that it's fascinating.

00:59:30.600 Now I live in DC, as you know, and, um, so it's fascinating to find that people, the

00:59:36.060 tourists who flood by the millions of the DC, the person they most are eager to explore

00:59:41.640 and most identify with, with DC and American history is not Washington for whom the city

00:59:46.540 is named, but Lincoln.

00:59:48.180 And so the tide turned for him, I think just shortly after his death, when the words and

00:59:52.480 the deeds were remembered and the legend arose.

00:59:54.540 Yeah, it's amazing after his death, how he was our beloved president and, you know, they

01:00:01.940 dragged his body all around, uh, for on the morning train and, and, uh, and everything

01:00:08.320 else his death, um, is to me absolutely horrible.

01:00:16.280 Uh, the way he was treated, I mean, the doctors, I mean, this was the medicine at the time.

01:00:20.800 The doctor comes and sticks his finger in the back of his head to try to dig the bullet

01:00:24.940 out with his finger.

01:00:26.320 Um, and I can't remember Laura Keene, I think was her name comes up in her white dress, brand

01:00:33.240 new white dress, uh, to have, uh, to hold the president so she can get the blood stains

01:00:39.240 on her dress and then go on a tour making herself look like Florence Nightingale.

01:00:43.900 I mean, he was treated horribly all the way till he was dead.

01:00:50.180 No, it was horrible.

01:00:51.800 He was carried across the street from Ford's theaters to the Peterson house.

01:00:55.380 You're exactly correct.

01:00:56.880 I mean, we were talking about a level of medicine, one click up from bleeding people with leeches.

01:01:01.640 Uh, you're right.

01:01:02.660 The doctor put his pinky finger into the wound.

01:01:05.140 Um, it w it was, it was, it was badly done.

01:01:08.420 He was ill served at every turn and yeah, people already knew that he was going to be

01:01:13.080 a legend and they wanted to be associated with it.

01:01:15.400 People were cramming into the room and what have you.

01:01:17.960 Um, but yes, it's, it's a, it's a, it's his death is part of the great lore.

01:01:22.560 He was even betrayed by the, uh, he would, he basically, he and Mary Todd Lincoln double

01:01:26.760 dated with a young major, the rager, major Rathburn.

01:01:30.080 And that man, um, betrayed him basically would be proved cowardly and left him to be killed.

01:01:36.360 Should have stepped up and fought off John Wilkes booth.

01:01:39.380 Um, what's interesting, I think what's from the standpoint of his faith about his death

01:01:43.100 is that as he was dying, as he was just before he was shot, he was continuing kind of a flirty

01:01:49.140 conversation with his wife from earlier in the day when they had taken a carriage ride and

01:01:53.860 they had been discussing what they would do after the war.

01:01:55.960 And he said to her, sitting right there in the booth after the war, we'll, we'll not

01:02:01.180 go back to Springfield.

01:02:02.300 We'll travel abroad.

01:02:03.460 I would really like to go to the Holy land.

01:02:05.420 I would like to walk in the footsteps of the savior.

01:02:09.880 Amazing.

01:02:11.200 Amazing.

01:02:12.220 And he did just a few, uh, a few hours later.

01:02:16.740 More with Steven Mansfield in a second.

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01:03:32.940 We're going to talk to him about Winston Churchill, Pope Benedict, George Whitfield, and Booker

01:03:38.320 T coming up.

01:03:41.380 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:04:00.740 We have Steven Mansfield on.

01:04:01.940 He is the author of many books, Miracle of the Kurds, which was selected as a book of

01:04:07.020 the year.

01:04:07.520 Also, I think we've had him on before for his book, A Manly Man, which I just love, but

01:04:13.120 he has written biographies of Lincoln and his struggles to find God.

01:04:21.240 George Whitfield, Booker T. Washington, Winston Churchill, Pope Benedict, Barack Obama, George

01:04:26.640 W. Bush, and Abraham Lincoln, and not the Bill O'Reilly book, Killing Jesus, but another

01:04:32.440 one that I have to read.

01:04:34.420 Steven, I want to go through a couple of the figures that you have written about.

01:04:41.180 Can we start with Pope Benedict?

01:04:42.960 What really happened at the end with Pope Benedict?

01:04:46.620 Was this kind of a coup?

01:04:48.060 I don't believe it was a coup, but I do believe the pressures came too much.

01:04:53.580 You definitely had corruption going on at a certain level within the Vatican, and he spoke

01:04:58.880 about that openly, and that was happening at a time of his declining health.

01:05:03.760 So was it a coup?

01:05:04.980 I don't believe so.

01:05:06.200 But I do believe that he was unable to control the events of the transition, and things went

01:05:11.480 away he would not have preferred.

01:05:12.900 I don't think he's that happy with Pope Francis, as a lot of conservatives have, but nevertheless,

01:05:20.340 I don't think it was an open coup.

01:05:22.280 I think it just was an older man realizing he couldn't deal with what he had to deal with

01:05:25.640 in the Vatican, and then having a transition go, I think he would consider it badly.

01:05:31.140 So I have three versions of Booker T. Washington's book, Up From Slavery, and I have a first edition

01:05:40.360 original, then I have one that came out about 15 years ago, and the preface says,

01:05:46.400 we're not sure how much of this story is true.

01:05:51.260 And I have the latest copy of Up From Slavery, where it says right in the front, this book

01:05:59.340 is a work of fiction.

01:06:02.820 Tell me about Booker T. Washington.

01:06:06.080 Well, Booker T. Washington is one of the most controversial African-American leaders.

01:06:10.960 I love him.

01:06:11.640 I'll tell you frankly, I'm an advocate for him.

01:06:13.660 Me too.

01:06:14.220 And the reason is, of course, that he advocated industry, labor skills, using the marketplace,

01:06:23.140 using the free enterprise system for blacks to ascend.

01:06:26.200 He certainly believed in their civil rights, but he believed that the best way to ascend was

01:06:32.280 through the vehicle of free enterprise and being people of industry.

01:06:35.240 Well, that does not play well with many contemporary African-Americans, certainly doesn't play well

01:06:41.040 with the scholarly set.

01:06:42.680 And so they vilify him, and he's disliked.

01:06:45.780 And other scholars, other philosophers, other black writers are preferred because they're

01:06:52.440 a little bit more left-leaning, and they're a little suspicious of capitalism and free enterprise.

01:06:57.660 But Booker T., I think, the founder of Tuskegee, great man, first African-American who was really

01:07:04.480 super prominent, and also first to dine in the White House.

01:07:07.660 He was a favorite of Teddy Roosevelt's.

01:07:09.920 I think he did amazing things for black Americans, but he is absolutely vilified, and that's why

01:07:14.840 you're getting the different accounts there at the beginning of your books.

01:07:17.020 And it was at the time when, if he would have lived a little longer, perhaps things would

01:07:28.980 have been different.

01:07:30.100 But he was at a critical juncture, was he not, with, was it Marcus Garvey?

01:07:35.720 No, who was it that was kind of the, yeah, Du Bois, the foe of Booker T.

01:07:44.020 And when Booker T. died, that's when Du Bois really kind of took off, was it not?

01:07:50.860 Exactly, exactly.

01:07:52.040 He didn't live long enough, unfortunately, died early, and his enemies, in a sense, wrote

01:07:57.000 his obituary.

01:07:58.280 And we've been dealing with that ever since.

01:08:00.060 But those who dive into it and get into the original sources and study the man without

01:08:04.620 bias can only conclude he was a great African-American hero.

01:08:08.320 Winston Churchill, one of my favorite guys, he is, he's funny, he had a prescription for

01:08:19.880 his alcoholism during Prohibition.

01:08:22.720 I think he's, I think he's one of the only guys that truly understood what had to happen

01:08:30.020 in, or after World War II.

01:08:33.220 I think he's, he judged Russia for what it really was.

01:08:38.240 But over in India, he was kind of a, kind of not a, not a good figure.

01:08:44.720 And I struggled with that, Stephen, for a while, until I realized, I was asking if he was a good

01:08:51.460 man or a bad man.

01:08:52.500 And I think the answer to that is, yes, just as we all are.

01:08:56.820 Um, we have a battle and we're great at some things, not good at others.

01:09:01.940 And he regretted a lot of the things that he did, um, because he, you know, came from

01:09:07.580 a different generation towards the end of his life in India.

01:09:11.180 Is that true?

01:09:13.340 It is true.

01:09:14.420 It is true.

01:09:15.220 He definitely was a man of his age.

01:09:17.340 He loved the empire.

01:09:18.880 He hated seeing it decline.

01:09:21.240 He hated the loss of India.

01:09:23.140 Um, he insultingly called Gandhi a naked fakir, which means beggar or, you know, street person

01:09:29.180 and, and, and, and Hindi.

01:09:30.940 Um, so he was insulting and he did have some of the racist attitudes of upper-class, uh,

01:09:36.440 English at that time.

01:09:37.700 I'm not excusing him.

01:09:39.020 But hang on just a second.

01:09:40.320 So did, but so did Gandhi.

01:09:42.740 Gandhi also was a racist.

01:09:46.660 Absolutely.

01:09:47.460 Gandhi spoke horribly of, he lived for a while in South Africa before he returned to India.

01:09:51.800 He was a lawyer and he spoke horribly of the, of the Africans and the blacks and didn't

01:09:56.600 think they, so yes, if we start chucking out of our lives and out of our thought, every

01:10:01.220 person in history who had even lightly racist attitudes, we're going to have an empty history

01:10:06.220 book because almost everyone, black, white, yellow, whatever, um, had these early, early

01:10:11.660 attitudes.

01:10:12.080 So we, we should forgive them, draw from their gifts and build a new history.

01:10:15.760 But, uh, yeah, definitely Churchill, um, had was a mixed man.

01:10:20.120 As much as I admire him as I'm looking, I'm sitting in an office with a picture of him

01:10:23.320 on the wall right here.

01:10:24.220 I deeply admire him, but no, no question.

01:10:26.580 He had his flaws.

01:10:29.120 Uh, I often think where is the Churchill of our day?

01:10:33.520 Um, I think he was so unique, um, that I, I think he makes the other leaders, uh, at that

01:10:40.680 time, um, really look weak in comparison.

01:10:46.080 They were strong, but he was just a different guy.

01:10:51.580 He had vision.

01:10:53.060 He had passion.

01:10:54.220 He used humor.

01:10:55.180 My favorite story is that he's in the white house in the early days of world war two.

01:10:59.220 Uh, Congress is suspecting him of inflating what he needs in terms of help and material

01:11:04.540 from the U S.

01:11:06.040 Um, he's taking a bath in mid at midday in the white house, as he often did.

01:11:11.100 Um, Roosevelt is wheeled.

01:11:12.940 And remember that he had polio wheeled into the room.

01:11:15.860 He's embarrassed that there stands, uh, a dripping wet Churchill with a towel around him

01:11:21.160 and Churchill seizes the moment.

01:11:23.600 He, he stops Roosevelt from being wheeled out of the room and says, no.

01:11:27.820 And he pulls the towel off of him.

01:11:30.040 Now he's standing there wet and naked, bald as spank.

01:11:32.460 And he says, I have nothing to hide from the president of the United States.

01:11:36.320 He was making a point about the political issue, but using his own nakedness and a bath to make

01:11:42.220 that point.

01:11:42.880 Boy, did that story turn the tide.

01:11:46.200 He's a great man.

01:11:47.120 And we don't have many like, um, George Whitefield, a name that most people don't know.

01:11:53.720 Um, but I contend we may not have had the American revolution and freedom as we understand

01:12:00.380 it without him.

01:12:02.520 I could not agree more.

01:12:04.120 In fact, my book is called forgotten founding father.

01:12:06.780 Whitefield, of course, with Wesley, the great revivalist in England made seven trips, uh,

01:12:12.620 from the South to the North in the American colonies.

01:12:15.400 And some scholars call him the first intercolonial event.

01:12:19.160 He's the first person who really captured imaginations because all of the, all of the

01:12:24.080 colonies would have been more tied to London than to each other.

01:12:26.680 But this revival that he led tied them all together.

01:12:30.300 And he began to warn the colonists and the colonial leaders, your liberties are being quote

01:12:35.660 spied out and they're being taken from you.

01:12:39.260 Be careful what's happening in parliament is, is going to destroy your religious liberties

01:12:43.880 in this revival that's happening.

01:12:45.460 And so he warned them.

01:12:47.000 And, uh, there's a, there's a scholar by the name of Heimert and he developed the Heimert

01:12:51.360 thesis, which is that had there been no great awakening, there would have been no American

01:12:55.700 revolution, as you say.

01:12:56.900 So we owe, we owe George Whitefield, this Anglican priest quite a bit.

01:13:01.640 And it's amazing that the, um, the first fighters, uh, went into his, uh, crypt, opened it up

01:13:10.560 and took a bit of his black robe to pin it on their uniforms.

01:13:14.720 Uh, that's how, that's how crucial he was to many Americans.

01:13:20.340 Well, they saw him as the father of their revolution and they wanted a little piece of

01:13:24.540 his black preaching robe, uh, or his collar tend to their uniforms, not, not as talismans,

01:13:29.540 as though they put their trust in a piece of cloth to keep them safe.

01:13:32.580 Right.

01:13:33.300 So almost a flag, almost a flag of identity and royalty because he, he was the man who

01:13:37.760 had summoned them to this, this, this valiant fight.

01:13:41.700 So how did we forget him?

01:13:44.840 You know, Glenn, I'll tell you, uh, he is actually buried in a broom closet in Newberry

01:13:51.620 Port, Massachusetts, um, in the basement of a church.

01:13:55.720 Well, he is forgotten.

01:13:56.920 There are statues of him.

01:13:58.240 There are, uh, you know, of course, scholars remember him, but you are absolutely right.

01:14:02.220 Like Booker T.

01:14:03.380 Washington, we are embarrassed by him.

01:14:05.660 We don't want to attribute, attribute, uh, the cause of our revolution with a, with a

01:14:10.280 preacher, a revivalist, a Billy Graham type, uh, in our popular mind.

01:14:13.740 And so we have absolutely forgotten him.

01:14:15.340 But I, I think that again, I agree with the Heimer thesis.

01:14:17.900 Had there been no great awakening led by George Whitfield, there would have been no American

01:14:22.460 revolution.

01:14:23.800 Well, you couldn't have Thomas Paine writing common sense if they hadn't heard all of that

01:14:28.700 common sense from the pulpit.

01:14:30.080 I mean, people don't understand how they don't understand how the preachers, um, and I, I think

01:14:38.000 because of this, we're in the shape we're in preachers didn't shy away from, uh, events

01:14:45.240 of the day because they were framing it not as politics.

01:14:49.040 It was framed as these are your rights and you need to understand that they come from God

01:14:56.640 and you better stand up for them.

01:14:59.200 That's exactly right.

01:15:00.340 I'm sure, you know, the phrase, the black regiment, these were the preachers who, uh,

01:15:04.200 donned military uniforms and fought in the American revolution.

01:15:07.520 But, but if you go back and do what scholars often do, which is scan the colonial newspapers,

01:15:12.280 you find that the preaching, the pulpits of flame with righteousness, a flame with the

01:15:17.100 liberty cause, um, are really what inspired people to rise up.

01:15:21.100 It wasn't just politicians.

01:15:22.520 It wasn't just anger towards the King.

01:15:24.440 They were the, it was these preachers in the mold of George Whitefield and the way the

01:15:28.760 newspapers repeated page after page of their sermons and the proclamations and their warnings.

01:15:33.700 That really is the intellectual heritage that created the American revolution.

01:15:38.460 By the way, the blaze I named after George Whitefield's paper that he published called

01:15:45.060 the blaze.

01:15:45.940 Um, one last question.

01:15:47.500 As you look through history, are you optimistic about our future?

01:15:53.500 Pessimistic or neutral?

01:15:56.820 I am optimistic.

01:15:58.400 And the reason is that we have had times like these before they forced good people to

01:16:04.360 the fore.

01:16:05.600 Um, there were, there were shakings, there were upheavals, there was destruction, uh,

01:16:09.680 that happened during times like this, but ultimately long-term good emerged.

01:16:14.460 And I, I am a long-term optimist and believe that, that good things are coming and that good

01:16:19.680 people are seeing the times for what they are grieving them, but then arising to their best.

01:16:24.020 And that's going to change our history.

01:16:25.140 So I'm an optimist.

01:16:26.900 Good.

01:16:27.440 Glad to hear it.

01:16:28.060 Thank you so much, Stephen.

01:16:29.080 We'll talk again.

01:16:30.200 Stephen Mansfield.

01:16:31.440 Um, you bet a great author of many biographies.

01:16:35.660 Look him up.

01:16:36.220 Stephen Mansfield.

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01:18:23.180 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:18:35.080 You know, I got to tell you, the world is so upside down.

01:18:46.860 I don't know if you saw this too, but, uh, AOC has called for the investigating and possible

01:18:54.260 impeaching of members of the Supreme court.

01:18:58.160 Um, she said, if chief justice, John Roberts won't come before Congress, here's what she

01:19:04.840 said.

01:19:06.620 If chief justice Roberts will not come before Congress for an investigation voluntarily,

01:19:10.840 I believe that we should be considering subpoenas.

01:19:13.280 We should be considering investigations.

01:19:15.720 We must pass, pass much more binding and stringent ethics guidelines where we see members of,

01:19:22.680 uh, where we see members of the, of the Supreme court potentially breaking the law, as we saw

01:19:28.700 in the refusal, you know, with Clarence Thomas to recuse himself, uh, from cases implicating his

01:19:33.880 wife and in January 6th, there also must be impeachment on the table.

01:19:39.160 We have a broad level of tools to deal with misconduct, overreach and abuse of power.

01:19:46.540 And the Supreme court has not been receiving the adequate oversight necessary in order to

01:19:54.200 preserve their own legitimacy.

01:19:55.520 And in the process, they themselves have been destroying the legitimacy.

01:19:59.740 Stop, stop, stop.

01:19:59.760 I can't take your idiocy.

01:20:02.600 Where in the constitution do you find oversight?

01:20:07.180 I mean, as a constitutionalist, I would have loved to have been able to claim oversight when

01:20:12.800 they were passing all kinds of crazy things, but now they, they are demanding oversight.

01:20:19.800 And so Congress is the watchdog of one branch is the watchdog of the other branch.

01:20:27.800 I don't, I know, I don't think so.

01:20:29.380 That's not the way it works.

01:20:30.440 I, I just, yeah, a lot of people don't like AOC, but I really do love the earnestness of

01:20:35.620 her stupidity.

01:20:36.420 Like there's something really charming about how hard she's trying.

01:20:39.840 Like I, she really is trying to noodle these things out and I don't know.

01:20:43.740 It's like watching your 14 year old give a speech about something they don't really fully

01:20:48.400 understand.

01:20:48.880 It's like, it's kind of cute.

01:20:50.540 It's adorable in, in, in a very, you know, society destroying sort of way.

01:20:55.480 And you're right.

01:20:56.360 And I'm, I'm looking forward to see how all of this works out.

01:21:00.160 It's going to be fun to watch.

01:21:02.500 Yeah.

01:21:02.860 Yeah.

01:21:03.180 I love it.

01:21:03.720 The Glenn Beck program.

01:21:10.500 We got no room to compromise.

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01:21:29.480 It's going to survive.

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01:21:44.840 What you're about to hear is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

01:21:50.920 This is the Glenn Beck program.

01:21:58.520 Hello, America.

01:21:59.560 There is a movie that is opening up that you need to see.

01:22:04.580 And I know you've already got your whole weekend planned.

01:22:07.540 You're like, I've got to see the Indiana.

01:22:10.360 I got to see the Indiana Jones movie.

01:22:13.940 I mean, my favorite, of course, everybody's favorite.

01:22:17.420 Say it with me.

01:22:18.320 The crystal skull.

01:22:20.660 It's not as good as that one, but I just have to see it.

01:22:25.820 Uh, I know, change your plans.

01:22:28.580 Uh, you might want to go see the sound of freedom.

01:22:32.260 We'll talk to the guy it's all about, Tim Ballard, in 60 seconds.

01:22:37.520 Well, here's to the real estate agent who really went above and beyond that time.

01:22:44.540 Though, you know, the one I'm talking about.

01:22:46.160 The one that, you know, you were all stressed out about selling your house and buying a new one.

01:22:50.580 And you're worried about all of the stuff with the bank.

01:22:54.280 And it was too much to handle.

01:22:56.500 And then, and then that real estate agent showed, uh, showed up.

01:23:00.300 And he or she just took over.

01:23:02.320 And it was fabulous.

01:23:04.760 Okay, that's never happened to me.

01:23:06.620 Uh, I don't know if it's ever happened to anybody.

01:23:09.720 Um, here's the thing.

01:23:11.240 Real estate agents, I trust.com.

01:23:13.420 These are the real estate agents.

01:23:14.860 We look for really good people first.

01:23:18.500 That have the best, uh, track record in the area.

01:23:22.300 They have the, um, we're looking for the best business practices in real estate.

01:23:27.880 There's certain things that you need to do that will help you become the best in the business.

01:23:34.020 We look for those people and the people with a long track record of treating people right.

01:23:39.600 And then we turn them on to you.

01:23:41.400 If you're buying or selling a home, just tell us where.

01:23:45.080 Realestateagentsitrust.com.

01:23:46.240 That's realestateagentsitrust.com.

01:23:49.760 Um, Mr. Tim Ballard, how are you, sir?

01:23:54.620 Hey, Glenn, how are you?

01:23:57.000 I'm great.

01:23:58.040 I, uh, I saw this movie three years ago, maybe.

01:24:03.300 Yeah.

01:24:04.200 Uh, and I'm not even sure it was locked at the point at that point, but, uh, watched it

01:24:09.940 with Jim Caviezel and, and you, and I, I think like a Prince of Italy or something was there

01:24:17.020 as well.

01:24:18.300 Yeah.

01:24:19.820 That's right.

01:24:20.560 Yeah.

01:24:21.100 And watched it.

01:24:22.680 And this is a tremendous, tremendous movie called the sound of freedom.

01:24:27.740 Tell the listener about it.

01:24:31.140 So this tells the story of, of the launch of our, our rescue operation, which leads into

01:24:37.440 operation underground railroad, also the Nazarene fund.

01:24:41.100 Um, but this is the story of when, when we were in the government and was confronted with

01:24:46.280 this dilemma of, uh, if I want to stay on the operation and rescue these children, I had

01:24:51.620 to quit my job.

01:24:52.420 And what's so exciting talking to you, Glenn, is that your audience should be reminded that

01:24:57.340 they paid for the operation that you're seeing depicted in, in the film, the whole island

01:25:03.340 operation, the whole island raid that was funded by your community.

01:25:06.760 So I've been so excited to get on the, on the radio to say thank you to you and your community

01:25:11.420 and go watch what you funded.

01:25:13.220 I mean, that's, that's, that's the reality.

01:25:14.700 That is so tremendous.

01:25:16.640 So tremendous.

01:25:17.600 And I think there's going to be, eventually there will be a movie maybe long after we're

01:25:22.180 dead.

01:25:23.020 Um, but there will be a movie about the operation that our audience funded in Afghanistan too.

01:25:28.980 I mean, it's, it's one of the greatest stories ever as is this one.

01:25:33.360 So, um, what are you hoping people walk away with Tim?

01:25:39.620 Well, I'm hoping that people open their eyes.

01:25:42.180 I'm tired of, you know, this is domestic release only this week.

01:25:45.000 And so many people in the United States say this is a problem far, far away from us.

01:25:49.340 And it's not, and this film shows you the, the first two arrests are right here in the

01:25:54.120 United States.

01:25:54.720 The first one, the first rescues on the border, which is so relevant today because we have

01:25:59.080 how many kids being trafficked into the United States into the highest demand country for

01:26:03.680 child sex in the world.

01:26:05.180 Um, you know, we have our kids being targeted by this crazy ideology of, you know, of sexualizing

01:26:11.240 them and all sorts of things.

01:26:12.100 So I really hope everyone can put the pieces together and realize that kids are in the crosshairs

01:26:16.380 and this is an American problem and it requires an American solution.

01:26:21.840 So there are a couple of movies that I really want to see.

01:26:24.700 I want to see till, and it came out a long time ago.

01:26:28.540 Um, and I've wanted to see it, but every time I pass it on Netflix, I'm like, I'm not in the,

01:26:34.820 you know, you just don't want to be depressed.

01:26:37.800 This is a really uplifting story.

01:26:40.680 This is not, uh, this is something you go to and yes, it deals with some awful stuff,

01:26:46.220 but you feel great leaving the theater after this.

01:26:51.040 You do.

01:26:51.780 And you know, one reason that is, I remember talking to Jerry Mullen, who's a friend of

01:26:54.720 yours as well, who won the Academy Award for Schindler's list.

01:26:57.360 And he said the one regret he had was they made that film 50 years too late because when

01:27:02.060 you left the theater, there's nothing to do.

01:27:04.160 It's kind of depressing.

01:27:05.180 Um, but this film, the sound of freedom is it's like, it's like Schindler's list had

01:27:09.420 been made in 1940, right?

01:27:11.420 It's like you can leave and do something and that's empowering.

01:27:14.200 And so I think that's why, you know, the movie begins for a lot of people as they're

01:27:17.780 leaving the theater.

01:27:18.560 And that's what I think causes hope and, and make people feel good.

01:27:23.360 So when you, when you watch this, Tim, is there any part of you that is worried that

01:27:30.260 this just makes you much more famous and oh, you are much more famous and the tactics that

01:27:37.420 you use more famous because you, you guys go in undercover and catch these guys, um, just

01:27:46.020 being absolute dirtbags.

01:27:47.600 And honestly, I don't know.

01:27:49.320 And then we've, we've had this, we talked about this when we were in Bangkok together and we

01:27:54.140 were walking down, uh, what's that cowboy street?

01:27:56.720 Um, um, in, in Bangkok and we were talking and I, I asked you, how do you live in this

01:28:05.460 world and not take it with you when you get out?

01:28:09.120 Cause it's awful.

01:28:10.820 The, these people, and you have to kind of pretend to be part of that.

01:28:16.380 Yeah, I, this, this film has forced me out of all undercover work definitively and I've

01:28:21.700 been doing it for 18 years and it does take its toll.

01:28:23.720 In fact, it's, it's, it's an amazing, crazy process to go undercover and then come out

01:28:28.620 back in.

01:28:29.200 It takes a lot of prayer therapy.

01:28:31.300 Um, but I'll say this, um, the only tactics we've ever revealed in the film or in the documentaries

01:28:37.300 are things that people are doing anyway.

01:28:39.800 We never reveal something that's kind of a telltale sign that would give us away.

01:28:43.920 Um, you know, things that are happening anyway, parties or whatever.

01:28:47.140 Uh, so that allows us to protect our, our tactics while at the same time, uh, expressed to

01:28:53.380 the world, what, what is happening.

01:28:56.060 Tell a little bit about this movie, this story in particular on, on how you get the bad guys,

01:29:01.760 the, the, the, the operation that, as you said, this audience funded.

01:29:07.440 So, so I had been sent down as a government agent in 2012 to Columbia to consult on an

01:29:13.380 operation.

01:29:13.780 And I was, it was very clear.

01:29:15.320 I was to stop at that point, but I didn't.

01:29:18.420 And I, I, I attached myself.

01:29:20.300 I got involved deeper than I was supposed to.

01:29:23.280 And then I was told to come home because there's no U S case here.

01:29:26.980 Of course, I don't care about U S case, Columbia case, uh, human trafficking, child trafficking

01:29:31.800 knows, no borders or boundaries.

01:29:33.440 But, um, the law was the law and they said, come home.

01:29:36.400 And I, I said, I, I can't, you know, and that's when I, that's when I contacted you and I,

01:29:41.980 and my wife, and I didn't even know you all that well yet.

01:29:44.660 I mean, I've been in your show once and, and I thought, can I get ahold of him?

01:29:48.320 Can I, can I convince him to, to, to take the craziest risk?

01:29:53.120 And your attorneys are telling you not to do it, but, but, but this was a pending operation.

01:29:59.100 You know, and I don't know, it was crazy that you did it.

01:30:01.740 It was, you, you put yourself out there and, and, and, you know, we all put ourselves out

01:30:06.020 there and, and, you know, and we went for it and, and it paid off and it paid off in

01:30:10.360 this operation.

01:30:11.520 Um, I don't want to do too much spoiler alert, but it is, it's, it's, it, it rescued over

01:30:16.740 a hundred kids in, in, in about two hours.

01:30:20.580 And it's depicted on this big Island scene in, in the, in, uh, off the coast of Cartagena.

01:30:27.600 So tell me what it feels like.

01:30:29.560 Um, and I don't want to, I don't want to spoil anything in this movie.

01:30:33.960 So we'll talk about other operations you've been on.

01:30:37.080 Tell me what it feels like when, because you're undercover, you're arrested with the bad guys.

01:30:44.000 And here are all these women and young girls, really young girls.

01:30:49.620 And you're down on the floor with your hands behind your back in cuffs.

01:30:53.960 And they're looking at you like you're a predator and you know, you're not.

01:31:02.360 And so you never get that.

01:31:05.120 You never get that.

01:31:06.780 Thank you really from them or just even the recognition that you, I would imagine.

01:31:12.300 I would want to say, I'm not one of them.

01:31:15.320 I'm not one of them.

01:31:16.060 I was really trying to help you.

01:31:17.600 How does that feel when you're there on the ground with your hands behind your back?

01:31:23.300 Yeah, it's a, it's a punch to the stomach.

01:31:24.980 I've had, um, I've had young girls and kids like even cuss at me.

01:31:29.360 I remember once spit at me as we were being taken out, like, got you.

01:31:33.880 You might, you know, I'm like, no, no, we, we are here for you.

01:31:38.120 And, and that's just part of it because, you know, if they know who you are, it's, it's

01:31:41.920 a security risk for our entire team, but something unique happened on this operation that you

01:31:48.040 know about that I'll go ahead and reveal.

01:31:49.440 Cause I think it's just so cool is, um, something happened on the Island operation where one of

01:31:53.960 the aftercare people on the Columbia side accidentally revealed that we were the good

01:31:58.400 guys after they took the bad guys, the real bad guys off on the boats, they left us there

01:32:03.120 and the, and the, and the kids started like singing and clapping and saying, thank you

01:32:07.660 to us.

01:32:08.320 And then we realized, oh my goodness, they know who we are.

01:32:10.860 And some of my operators were crying cause they'd never seen this kind of interaction

01:32:15.060 between us and the kids.

01:32:16.900 And he said to me, and it may sound cheesy, but it's the truth.

01:32:20.140 He said, it's not cheesy in the moment and the moment is beautiful and so real.

01:32:24.540 But he, he, he said to me, do you hear that sound?

01:32:27.420 That's the sound of freedom.

01:32:29.040 And when I told that story to the producer, Alejandro Monteverde, the writer and director,

01:32:33.120 he said, that's the name of the movie.

01:32:35.660 And they actually depict that scene on the Island, actually depict the scene where the

01:32:39.820 operator says to me those words and it, it plays really well.

01:32:43.700 Um, so it's one of the more beautiful, the writer direct, the writer director of this

01:32:48.400 is a genius, uh, and has done a great job and is very well known, um, in South America.

01:32:56.960 Um, he's done a couple of, I think, brilliant movies here.

01:33:00.080 And this is, this is of course, uh, one of them, Jim Caviezel, uh, plays you.

01:33:07.140 I mean, I, I, I, I wouldn't mind that happening if Jim Caviezel played me, but I'd get like

01:33:13.500 fatty Arbuckle to play me.

01:33:16.300 Uh, uh, uh, but, uh, he's a good guy and a good friend as, uh, as well.

01:33:25.040 And what did it take to get him involved?

01:33:28.800 Well, when they, when they approached me and said, you know, I didn't think they were going

01:33:32.300 to make this film because the chances were so small in my mind, but they said, we're doing

01:33:36.440 it.

01:33:36.660 And who would you like to play you?

01:33:37.860 You don't get to choose, but you can, you know, request.

01:33:40.300 And right out of the gate, I said, I want Jim Caviezel.

01:33:43.000 Um, the County Monte Cristo is one of my favorite movies for one, but, but I told them, I said,

01:33:47.320 look, I don't trust Hollywood.

01:33:48.460 I mean, Hollywood is the reason that I'm employed.

01:33:51.560 I mean, that's, they create the content that creates the demand that creates the whole problem.

01:33:54.960 And, and I know one thing about Jim Caviezel.

01:33:57.580 He's a phenomenal actor and he loves Jesus.

01:33:59.880 And if I didn't love Jesus, I couldn't do what I do.

01:34:02.920 So that's the reason.

01:34:04.240 And they said, okay, they're worried because they didn't, you know, there's a, at the end

01:34:08.660 of the movie, if you remember, Glenn, it's really cool.

01:34:10.340 They do this kind of transition into real footage and it shows some real footage from the, from

01:34:14.760 the operation.

01:34:15.680 And they said, you got to find someone to him that kind of looks like you.

01:34:18.720 He's tall, dark and handsome.

01:34:19.900 And, and you're frankly not.

01:34:21.720 And, and so I said, well, I don't care.

01:34:24.420 I don't care what, I don't care what he looks like.

01:34:27.540 You know, he loves Jesus.

01:34:29.240 And so they went with it and Jim signed up in like four days.

01:34:32.000 He was, he was in, so I will tell you that, uh, tall, dark and handsome does not come

01:34:38.040 to mind when I think of you coming to my house immediately following an operation.

01:34:43.620 You'll fly in from someplace around the world and you'll stop in Dallas.

01:34:47.800 And you've done it a couple of times where you come to the door and I don't even recognize

01:34:51.320 you and tall, dark and handsome is definitely the opposite of how you look when you're on

01:34:58.200 an operation.

01:34:59.960 That's right.

01:35:00.560 I look, I come, I come in pretty beat up.

01:35:02.480 So thanks, thanks for, for giving me a warm place to hang out.

01:35:06.800 So, uh, there is a, uh, 2 million ticket goal.

01:35:11.740 Um, uh, and why is it, why, why did you set a goal for 2 million tickets?

01:35:17.120 So before I answer that, I want to announce something so cool.

01:35:20.200 They've already sold over 1 million, I think it's a 1.1 million tickets.

01:35:24.340 Um, they sold 900,000 just over the weekend.

01:35:26.920 And we literally be in, in the theaters where we were competing with Indiana Jones at this

01:35:31.140 weekend, which was Indiana Jones opening weekend, Sound of Freedom sold more tickets than Indiana

01:35:35.800 Jones.

01:35:36.320 And it's not even open.

01:35:36.980 And we didn't even have a movie out.

01:35:39.320 That's really good news.

01:35:40.340 It's incredible.

01:35:42.060 The, the, the, the Angel Studios is just going through the roof.

01:35:44.320 I can't believe it.

01:35:45.080 Um, but there's 2 million children forced into commercial sex, uh, yearly.

01:35:49.180 And so, uh, to, to kind of commemorate that and connect it to us to independence day, we

01:35:55.340 want 2 million people in the theaters this week, uh, celebrating the 4th of July, uh, considering

01:36:01.060 what freedom really means and, and, and also representing those 2 million kids.

01:36:06.500 Believe it or not, this is a really feel good movie.

01:36:09.940 You will walk out of the movie theater feeling really, really great.

01:36:14.780 Uh, especially if you're in this audience, because as Tim said, you paid for the operation

01:36:20.200 that is being depicted in the movie and it is called Sound of Freedom.

01:36:25.780 You can get your tickets, uh, online, go see it.

01:36:29.080 It opens tomorrow.

01:36:31.000 Sound of Freedom.

01:36:32.600 Tim, thank you.

01:36:33.720 Give my best to Jim.

01:36:34.760 Will you?

01:36:35.860 Will do.

01:36:36.380 Thanks, Glenn.

01:36:36.840 Love you.

01:36:38.260 You bet.

01:36:38.780 Bye-bye.

01:36:39.520 All right.

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01:37:38.520 Uh, what is it?

01:37:39.380 Uh, get, get up to the phone number.

01:37:41.020 There it is.

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01:37:57.440 Fabian is, uh, uh, with us.

01:37:59.540 He just, uh, uh, uh, came in with one of our security and he was down in the museum and

01:38:07.800 I, uh, said, so, um, why are you here?

01:38:12.560 And my security said, it's not why he's here.

01:38:15.920 It's where he's from.

01:38:18.680 So I came in from Israel, um, which is a 14 hour flight plus connection.

01:38:24.540 Plus you get lost on the way because Glenn said, I'm taking the stuff out of the vault

01:38:29.420 and I'm going to put it up in St. George.

01:38:32.780 So if you're in St. George, come see it.

01:38:34.840 And so I said, I, I better be in St. George.

01:38:37.480 Holy cow.

01:38:38.500 You flew from Israel just for this.

01:38:41.240 Yes, sir.

01:38:41.620 I did.

01:38:42.180 Why?

01:38:43.440 Because this is, well, I hope not, but it might be a once in a lifetime to see this stuff.

01:38:48.880 Um, because listening to you for 10 years, um, I've come to understand the importance

01:38:56.120 of these things, um, without understanding America and its history, you cannot understand

01:39:03.120 our world and you cannot appreciate it without America's founding, America's values, the constitution,

01:39:11.160 yada, yada, yada.

01:39:12.480 None of this exists.

01:39:13.880 None of this, not my country and obviously Holocaust, et cetera.

01:39:18.740 But even without that, none, none of this exists.

01:39:21.740 None of what we have.

01:39:22.700 I'll tell you, our founders felt that they were, um, uh, going to found the new Jerusalem

01:39:28.880 here.

01:39:29.520 But, uh, George Washington, uh, spoke about it as several of the founders that one of the

01:39:35.260 reasons we were to found this country was to restore Israel, to have it return, uh, and

01:39:43.620 be restored as God promised.

01:39:45.760 Well, we're, we're grateful.

01:39:49.140 Thank you.

01:39:49.880 You know, it's funny that you say that about America because being in, in, uh, Jerusalem

01:39:53.680 in particular, if you've never stood at the temple mount, if you've never felt the temple

01:40:00.500 mount, you have no idea, you can't, you don't understand the world because it's almost as

01:40:08.720 as if the world has an axis that it rotates around the temple mount.

01:40:13.800 Have you ever felt that?

01:40:15.260 Yes.

01:40:15.960 Yes.

01:40:16.360 The, the, the temple mount is supposedly the foundation stone or rests on the foundation

01:40:21.000 stone of the universe.

01:40:22.600 If you, if you, if you're a biblical person, um, and it, it is special, you can feel it.

01:40:29.820 If you touch it, like you said, you can feel it.

01:40:32.380 You can.

01:40:32.760 It really is.

01:40:33.820 Uh, it's different.

01:40:35.080 And it's, we are forever linked.

01:40:38.640 I hope, I don't know if that's, I don't know if we're on that trajectory at this point.

01:40:44.620 Um, but we are hopefully forever, uh, linked as, as, uh, friends and allies and countries

01:40:54.400 that both worship the same God.

01:40:56.280 God willing.

01:40:57.180 Yeah.

01:40:57.700 God willing.

01:40:58.360 Thank you.

01:40:58.680 So when are you going home?

01:41:00.760 Thursday, technically Thursday.

01:41:02.520 Thursday.

01:41:03.260 And you're here all by yourself?

01:41:04.940 I'm here all by myself.

01:41:06.160 That is crazy.

01:41:07.680 That is crazy.

01:41:08.660 Yeah.

01:41:08.880 That's what my wife said, but, but she, but then she said, all right, go ahead.

01:41:12.740 So thank you, honey.

01:41:14.320 I love you.

01:41:16.240 Wow.

01:41:16.820 That is amazing.

01:41:18.400 And I, I know what you, what you mean when you say that to Tanya sometimes.

01:41:22.180 Thank you.

01:41:24.380 Well, I can't wait to hear your review, uh, of what you, what you see.

01:41:28.960 So thank you so much for coming.

01:41:31.380 God bless you.

01:41:31.980 Thank you.

01:41:32.220 And Glenn, thank you for everything.

01:41:33.860 Oh, thank you.

01:41:35.220 It's the world that you came here.

01:41:36.480 Thank you.

01:41:36.860 Um, another crazy, literally crazy.

01:41:42.740 Uh, Glenn Beck listener, uh, uh, coming all the way for the, um, uh, for the museum.

01:41:49.240 Now we break the museum up tomorrow is its last day.

01:41:52.960 Is it not?

01:41:53.480 We ended about two o'clock.

01:41:55.260 I, as far as I know, uh, over the weekend, they were letting some people buy tickets, uh,

01:42:02.580 like, you know, maybe five per hour and kind of, um, letting a few more people in, um, come

01:42:08.640 at your own risk because it is sold out, but there are, they are taking some, uh, some

01:42:13.580 extra tickets, uh, and you can buy them here at the door.

01:42:17.240 And then on Friday and Saturday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

01:42:23.700 uh, we're up, um, in, uh, a little town just outside of Preston, Idaho, which you probably

01:42:31.480 haven't heard.

01:42:32.280 So the little town next to Preston, you've definitely haven't heard about, uh, we're

01:42:37.700 there Thursday, Friday, and Saturday, trying to help them, uh, raise money to finish a library

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01:44:31.460 Every 4th of July, just after dusk, you will hear the same chorus wherever you are.

01:44:39.580 Every city, town, hamlet across the United States, you'll hear boom.

01:44:45.240 Oh, crack.

01:44:47.580 Ooh, boom, boom, boom.

01:44:51.120 Ah, every 4th of July in every city.

01:44:57.700 Fireworks burst across the sky as the rockets red glare gives me proof that my wife is still

01:45:04.460 there as we sit on bleachers and huddle on blankets or as we did a couple of years ago,

01:45:12.660 just sat in the back of a pickup truck as we watched the pyrotechnic display.

01:45:18.540 This has been part of the 4th of July or Independence Day, the first celebration of America's independence in 1777.

01:45:26.880 That's, that's when it all started and has been going on ever since.

01:45:31.560 That first commemoration was not, however, the first time fireworks were launched in the American skies.

01:45:38.920 Legend has it that in 1608, Captain John Smith set off a fireworks display in Jamestown.

01:45:46.800 Wouldn't that have been incredible?

01:45:50.420 I guess just to mark the cannibalism that was yet to come in Jamestown.

01:45:55.400 The history of fireworks is crazy.

01:46:00.460 It's crazy ancient.

01:46:01.900 It spans the entire globe.

01:46:04.880 Most historians believe that fireworks were invented in China.

01:46:09.300 However, some contend they originated in the Middle East or India.

01:46:13.200 But either way, we do know that the first firecracker in China was actually created unintentionally

01:46:21.660 when a stick of bamboo was tossed into a fire and it cracked.

01:46:26.020 The hollow air pocket of the bamboo overheated and a loud pop was created.

01:46:33.200 The Chinese believe these natural firecrackers would ward off evil spirits.

01:46:38.800 And so that was the first, at least in China.

01:46:42.440 Around 800 BC, a Chinese alchemist, he mixed sulfur, charcoal, potassium, nitrate, mixed it all together.

01:46:52.120 And he was trying to make a recipe for eternal life.

01:46:57.300 Didn't work out quite so well.

01:46:59.700 Some say he was trying to create gold and that didn't work out either.

01:47:05.100 So whichever, and especially eternal life, because what he made was gunpowder.

01:47:11.080 They began to pack the powder then into the bamboo and then later into paper tubes and toss them into the fire.

01:47:19.280 So if you attended an ancient Chinese display, it wouldn't be like the shows today.

01:47:24.640 I think it sounds a little more dangerous, quite honestly.

01:47:30.680 So then they packed it, the powder into the paper later and the bamboo and the fireworks were thrown into the fire.

01:47:41.080 So they were not launched into the air and there were no added colors, just noisy explosions like firecrackers.

01:47:50.140 So there was probably not as many oohs and aahs as well.

01:47:54.940 Around 900 AD, the Chinese realized they could make projectiles with the gunpowder.

01:48:02.980 So they fastened the firecrackers to arrows and they fired them at enemies.

01:48:08.760 And over the next 200 years, the fireworks were made into rockets that could be fired at your enemy without the help of an arrow.

01:48:18.380 So it was pretty, I guess.

01:48:20.240 It was very, very beautiful when we watched them all be set on fire.

01:48:25.280 But it was your enemy and their uniforms, I suppose, added color because there was no color.

01:48:32.500 Marco Polo brought fireworks to Europe and Arabia from Asia in 1295.

01:48:40.080 Gunpowder recipes came as well.

01:48:42.060 And we used the technology to develop more weapons like cannons and muskets.

01:48:49.140 The Chinese, I don't know, maybe I think their wars had a little bit more flair than just hurling a giant cannonball.

01:48:56.680 Fireworks were not only used as weapons, they were still used to celebrate things.

01:49:05.380 Henry VII, I think, is credited with the first royal fireworks display.

01:49:11.960 He had a wedding in 1486.

01:49:15.840 Then Peter the Great, the Tsar of Russia, put out a five-hour firework show when his son was born.

01:49:24.900 Now, I think that sounds cool, but remember, there were no colors at the time.

01:49:30.200 So at some point, you're like, okay, I mean, I get it.

01:49:35.820 Silver thing goes up in the sky, goes bang, and I see silver lights.

01:49:42.120 I mean, I got it the first hour.

01:49:43.860 And there was no music or anything else.

01:49:46.600 It was just the fire.

01:49:48.040 I think five hours might be a little excessive.

01:49:51.560 The 1600s, the science of fireworks didn't change.

01:49:58.220 It was still the same as it was in ancient China, except you didn't throw them into the fireworks.

01:50:03.520 Now, aerial fireworks.

01:50:05.440 And they were not actually silver.

01:50:07.600 They were just plain orange.

01:50:09.160 There was no color.

01:50:10.840 And they were run by fire masters.

01:50:13.860 And the assistants were little green men.

01:50:18.280 Not kidding you.

01:50:19.660 That's what they were called.

01:50:21.120 Green men.

01:50:22.540 And they were called that because they had to wear wet leaves to protect themselves from the sparks.

01:50:28.400 And, again, I mean, I'm surprised that we ever made it to real civilization.

01:50:34.780 You know, any job that says we're going to require you to wear wet leaves, I don't think I even apply for.

01:50:42.820 And I recommend to my friends, at least my friends, maybe those I don't like, I'm like, you got to be a green man.

01:50:49.320 I mean, it's going to be great.

01:50:50.720 Early American settlers brought the fireworks with them to the new world.

01:50:56.400 John Adams is credited with inspiring the celebration of independence with fireworks.

01:51:02.520 He wrote to his wife, Abigail, the day will be most memorable in the history of America.

01:51:08.780 I'm apt to believe that it will be celebrated by succeeding generations as the great anniversary festival.

01:51:16.520 It ought to be solemnized with pomp and parade, bonfires and illuminations, otherwise known as fireworks, from one end of this continent to the other, from this time forward forevermore.

01:51:27.560 And he was right, and he was right, and we did.

01:51:31.100 America's first 4th of July celebration was in 1777, still with only one color, orange.

01:51:40.960 I think the firework industry could have been run by Henry Ford, and he would have loved it.

01:51:48.120 You get all the fireworks you want in any color, as long as it's orange.

01:51:51.800 The elaborate sparkles of red, white, and blue, and fancy shapes, not invented for another 60 years.

01:52:02.600 During the Renaissance, pyrotechnic schools had taught eager students how to create elaborate explosions.

01:52:09.500 In Italy, fireworks were particularly popular, and they put specks of metal and other compounds in it to intensify the brightness and to make different shapes.

01:52:20.320 And the fireworks that we watched today may be some of the last fireworks that the world will know.

01:52:30.180 It started before Christ, or BCE, before Cabanera, and it may end soon.

01:52:37.680 They've been all over China, India, Arabia, England, Russia, Italy, influences from all over the world.

01:52:45.240 And now they're being replaced by drones because of global warming.

01:52:53.020 But what you see in the sky tomorrow night is really a melting pot.

01:53:00.220 The 4th of July sky is a melting pot of creativity and innovation that came from all over the world.

01:53:08.500 It's a true representation of our noblest ideals that our Founding Father set forth on actually July 2nd, 1776, and finally signed July 4th.

01:53:24.560 E Pluribus Unum.

01:53:27.500 Out of many, one.

01:53:30.200 Out of so many sources and so many countries, we will all sit on the back of our trucks or in bleachers

01:53:39.180 and watch our one fireworks display and celebrate the one truth.

01:53:46.040 We are free.

01:53:48.600 We are the freest country ever to grace the earth.

01:53:54.020 We've made a lot of mistakes, and that is true.

01:53:57.320 We've been a bad country, and we've been a great country.

01:54:01.980 But we're still a country called the United States of America, and we are free.

01:54:14.160 All righty.

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01:56:09.500 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

01:56:20.720 So back from a few days off for what we don't really know, but we welcome Stewina back.

01:56:30.260 Thank you.

01:56:30.840 And I'm not going to dead name Stu, because that would be wrong.

01:56:35.680 So just welcome back, Stewina.

01:56:38.340 And that's great.

01:56:40.120 I'm glad things went well in the surgery, Stu.

01:56:41.980 Thank you so much, Glenn.

01:56:43.000 It was a big success.

01:56:44.740 And I've now converted to genders every single time I've gone on vacation when you've still been hosting.

01:56:50.280 So it's good to know.

01:56:51.700 I know. You should make up your mind.

01:56:53.100 You should make up your mind.

01:56:54.260 I disagree.

01:56:55.180 Transition is where the money is.

01:56:56.680 Once you're done, people are bored with you.

01:56:58.860 You need to be in mid-transition.

01:57:00.520 And that's when you bring in the cash.

01:57:02.240 Well, I don't know.

01:57:03.800 You can always complain about something.

01:57:05.740 I mean, Dylan Mulvaney does.

01:57:08.480 And he still is, you know, he's the hot gal.

01:57:12.420 Yeah.

01:57:12.980 I mean, you get the can from Bud Light.

01:57:14.940 And Bud Light blows up their entire business, basically, because of this can.

01:57:20.920 And you'd think, wow, that must be the favorite beer of all trans people now.

01:57:25.240 Well, shockingly enough, you're never woke enough, as Bud Light found out recently.

01:57:29.980 Listen.

01:57:31.660 Here's Dylan Mulvaney.

01:57:33.060 You don't have it?

01:57:33.940 Okay.

01:57:34.380 Apparently, we don't have it.

01:57:35.520 But basically, what Dylan Mulvaney said was, I'm very disappointed in Bud Light.

01:57:41.500 They didn't reach out to me enough, apparently, after this thing blew up and it became a big issue.

01:57:47.280 And now, Dylan Mulvaney's criticizing Bud Light for not being pro-trans enough.

01:57:55.020 So, they are totally, totally screwed.

01:57:58.000 We are totally, totally screwed.

01:58:00.480 There is no one that can take anything anymore.

01:58:04.220 There's no one.

01:58:04.960 Everybody is like, oh, my alarm clock went off this morning and it assaulted me.

01:58:12.980 And I've got to complain to the alarm clock company.

01:58:17.280 Oh, my gosh.

01:58:18.760 Get over it.

01:58:19.620 There are things in life that happen.

01:58:21.420 Things you got to do.

01:58:23.180 Buck up.

01:58:24.780 Ugh.

01:58:26.780 Weak.

01:58:27.380 This is the reality of the situation, though, I guess.

01:58:30.120 This is where we are now.

01:58:32.020 And I don't know.

01:58:32.960 You'd think these companies would figure this out after a while, right?

01:58:36.360 You'd think that eventually they'd understand that once they get in the middle of these things,

01:58:41.020 it's not even pissing off your conservative fans.

01:58:44.500 It's pissing off everybody because you will never be able to please the left.

01:58:48.640 So, now you'll be put in a position where you're constantly trying to walk this in-between line that you will never be able to solve.

01:58:54.840 There's nowhere to go.

01:58:56.600 So, don't get involved in the first place.

01:58:58.520 Just make beer.

01:58:59.220 And Disney is a great example of what happens over time.

01:59:04.880 Disney was way ahead of the, I mean, led the parade for the woke parade.

01:59:11.840 And, I mean, back in 2008, you know, they had rainbows on their employees' ID cards.

01:59:20.460 And so, what happens is all of the woke people go to that particular company, work for that company, and then you see what happens.

01:59:31.260 They're destroying that company, and the company can't do anything about it.

01:59:36.100 What are they going to do?

01:59:36.680 Fire everyone?

01:59:38.240 Right.

01:59:39.000 Essentially, the thing that business owners need to understand is whether you agree or disagree with woke ideology or, you know, LGBTQ issues or all those things,

01:59:48.900 the central part you need to understand about the situation is that woke employees are terrible employees.

01:59:56.200 And when you bring them in, when you encourage them to be hired by your company, you will be burned.

02:00:02.080 They've destroyed the New York Times.

02:00:04.400 They've destroyed Disney.

02:00:06.240 They've destroyed company after company after company because once they get in and they wrest control from sane people, even if they're liberal,

02:00:13.320 you wind up with a work, you know, a staff that doesn't want to do their job.

02:00:18.500 It's the lowest thing on their priority list.

02:00:23.620 Looking at Disney and how much money they've lost recently.

02:00:27.800 I mean, it is.

02:00:29.380 What are they going to do?

02:00:30.900 I think that company, it's got to be over.

02:00:33.840 Don't you think?

02:00:35.240 I mean, what are they going to do?

02:00:37.200 I mean, they have so much, you know.

02:00:39.360 I mean, they still have ESPN.

02:00:41.980 I mean, it's not just, you know, just Disney anymore.

02:00:44.760 They also bought Star Wars.

02:00:48.200 They're wrecking that.

02:00:49.920 Oh, yeah.

02:00:50.140 They have Indiana Jones.

02:00:52.440 They're wrecking that.

02:00:55.560 You know, they're wrecking all of their classic movies.

02:00:59.480 They're wrecking their classic stories.

02:01:02.200 The parks are being wrecked.

02:01:04.160 I mean, once you get rid of the movies and the parks, there's nothing.

02:01:09.280 I mean, really, where's their strength?

02:01:12.440 It's in the parks and their movies.

02:01:15.160 And they've just destroyed their movie industry.

02:01:19.940 And they're working on their parks now.

02:01:22.400 The Glenn Beck Program.

The Glenn Beck Program - July 03, 2023

Why France's Riots are a WARNING for America ｜ Guests： Ezra Levant & Tim Ballard ｜ 7⧸3⧸23

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