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On this episode of the Glenn Beck Program, Glenn talks about the new movie, Young Washington, and how the midterms are suddenly looking a little different for the republicans. Glenn also talks about his new show with Dave Landau on Blaze TV.

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00:03:09 hello america welcome to the glenbeck program from london england today uh getting ready for
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00:03:28 I really want to get to some, I want to start
00:03:30 with some good news in America, and that 0.87
00:03:32 is, yeah, all that crap about 0.98
00:03:34 oh, it looks like the Democrats are 0.98
00:03:36 going to win. Yeah, maybe not. There's
00:03:38 a real change in
00:03:40 the seasons and the tide,
00:03:42 and we're going to bring Stu in
00:03:44 here in just a second. Yeah, you remember him?
00:03:46 He was, yeah, it was okay.
00:03:48 Um, but we're bringing him in because, uh, he, he has been watching this and he's made a big,
00:03:53 he, he made a big move. He never moves. He makes a decision on things. He, you know,
00:04:00 does the prediction market and he just leaves his money in. He's kind of a buy and hold kind
00:04:05 of guy, not on this one. Uh, if you want to find out all the details, go to his website,
00:04:10 predictable show.com predictable show.com. But he's just launched a new show with Dave Landau,
00:04:14 uh on blaze tv uh which is really really good and funny and uh he's going to be with us now here in
00:04:21 just a second to talk about how the midterms are suddenly looking a little different for the
00:04:25 republicans stew joins me in just a second first let me tell you about our sponsor this half hour
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00:05:24 glenn good to see you my man how are you uh very good very good i wanted to get you on today
00:05:30 because uh i've been reading your articles watching your stuff and you are uh you have
00:05:36 some good news i wanted to bring you on when you had good news because when it comes to election
00:05:41 time a lot of times you're really a drag you're right you're right you're always accurate but
00:05:46 you're a drag today you call me yeah you call me the little black rain cloud for almost 30 years 0.89
00:05:54 and that was a it was a nice way to be known i appreciated it so much uh but yeah no there 0.97
00:05:59 actually is some pretty good you're not today so tell me yeah yeah so basically you know it's funny
00:06:06 because these things are, they originate with the left being the left, right? They're constantly
00:06:12 doing things to try to take advantage of their situations. And they did this a couple of
00:06:17 different times. One was when it came to trying to expand the Voter Rights Act to their maximum,
00:06:24 the maximum levels possible. So they kept harassing these states to change their districts
00:06:30 over and over and over again so that they could get more majority minority districts, right? 0.64
00:06:36 These are districts where the majority of the voters are minorities, and they will, in theory, I guess, the assumption is minorities just vote for their own skin colors, so they will elect other minorities.
00:06:48 That's basically the very cynical way Democrats looked at it for years and years and years and years.
00:06:52 And they got courts to back them up for a long period of time.
00:06:55 Then, of course, this goes to eventually, you know, this happens in Louisiana.
00:07:01 In Louisiana, they wind up challenging this.
00:07:02 It goes all the way to the Supreme Court.
00:07:04 And the Supreme Court says what I think is pretty obvious here, which is it's not supposed to be done by skin color.
00:07:10 It's supposed to be the exact opposite of that.
00:07:12 We're supposed to do really almost any other thing, Glenn.
00:07:16 You can redistrict.
00:07:17 You can draw a line based on almost anything else.
00:07:20 Right.
00:07:21 Except race, which is hilarious because it's the one thing they kept trying to put in.
00:07:26 So they tried this and the Supreme Court wound up saying, I know you covered this, but it's like they wound up saying,
00:07:32 look, you can't just draw these lines based on race. You can use it as kind of one thing in a
00:07:37 recipe if you really want to, but you can't just draw these racial lines. They're not going to
00:07:42 hold. So they didn't hold. And this wound up burning the Democrats in a big way that it could
00:07:49 wind up getting a bunch of seats to go from Republicans to Democrats, because now these
00:07:54 states in the South who have been doing this for years have to redraw these districts to align with
00:08:00 what the Supreme Court said, which is we shouldn't draw voting lines based on skin color. So that's
00:08:06 part number one. Part number two is the Virginia situation. Virginia, they wound up trying to do
00:08:13 the same type of thing. The left went in and they said, well, we're going to keep pushing and pushing
00:08:17 and pushing and pushing and pushing. And they decided to try to make it basically so in this
00:08:21 purplish state, there were no Republicans to be seen anywhere. They pushed this as far as they
00:08:28 could go but and this is something that we caught you know pretty early on when looking at this race
00:08:33 you know the way that they had designed this glenn there are rules in virginia and they have
00:08:39 these rules basically if you're going to screw with the constitution you know and you're going
00:08:44 to screw with the way that these lines are drawn in their system you have the original legislative
00:08:49 vote and then you have to have a you know a basically a another vote by the people to say 1.00
00:08:56 hey, we want to throw these bums out. If they change the rules, we don't like that. We should 1.00
00:09:00 have the opportunity to throw these bums out. So they did do that, sort of. They got the vote done 1.00
00:09:08 immediately before the election and then forced everything through and said, look at us, we're
00:09:14 great. We're going to push back against all these evil Republicans and get all these seats back for
00:09:17 the Democrats. The problem is, once again, because the left has been the left for so long, they had
00:09:24 opened up early voting for such a long period of time that even though they got this vote done
00:09:31 right before the election, the Republicans pointed out, hey, wait a minute, 40% of our
00:09:38 population has already voted before you tried to do this. So this one doesn't count. You didn't
00:09:43 check off what you needed to do in the state. So the Virginia Supreme Court came in and said,
00:09:48 yeah, again, you guys pushed it too far. You bent the rules. That didn't work out. And so
00:09:53 Republicans are able to gain even more seats because of that situation, which is really
00:09:58 changing the whole tenor of the race, Glenn. So do you do you think this is all just happening
00:10:04 because of the redistricting or do are you also seeing any indication that people are kind of
00:10:10 like, I'm tired of all of this? They're pushing it too far. What happened in Virginia, you know,
00:10:15 even Spanberger coming in and saying, oh, we're not going to redistrict and then immediately
00:10:19 pushing for redistricting, that you're seeing any indication that Democrats are pushing
00:10:24 things and pushing the American people too far to the left? Or is that just wishful thinking?
00:10:32 You know, I don't want to be the little black brain cloud here. I think that I don't think 1.00
00:10:36 I've seen signs of any level yet of a left-leaning voter saying, you know what, maybe our party is
00:10:44 going a little too far. Where we did see signs of that, I think, back in 2021, 2022, where you saw
00:10:50 the whole, the George Floyd era, I think, was filled with moments where Democrats said about
00:10:55 even their own party, hey, I don't know, maybe having some police on the streets is a good idea.
00:11:00 You know, there were things like that that did happen. I haven't seen that yet with redistricting.
00:11:04 The way this is being framed, I think, in the left-wing media, and honestly, the mainstream
00:11:08 media, is this is just the Democrats trying to protect themselves. They're doing the best that
00:11:13 they can against these evil Republicans. Donald Trump is very mean, and they have to do this this
00:11:18 one time. That was the pitch from Gavin Newsom in California, right? These places had set up
00:11:24 systems that were supposed to eliminate the exact type of activity that Democrats are currently 0.97
00:11:29 engaging in. And they went to their own voters and said, hey, you know, sure, we have all these
00:11:34 rules set up, but aren't the Republicans mean? That kind of has been enough for a lot of them.
00:11:40 I do think that there is a you know a situation where they do push this too far they're going to
00:11:46 try to challenge all this stuff they're going to try to go down this road a little bit farther but
00:11:50 they have a tough argument to make to the American people who I still think despite everything we see
00:11:55 in the media believe in things like skin color shouldn't matter believe in things like merit
00:11:59 should matter and you know the farther they go down to push against that I think the worst it
00:12:04 gets for them so tell me what you're seeing in los angeles and in the california vote
00:12:09 i mean you seem to at least in the primaries for the very first time you have republicans
00:12:16 doing really quite well in the polls yeah uh actually it's it's true there's a couple of
00:12:25 really interesting things going on there one is the los angeles mayoral election i know you've
00:12:29 been watching that with spencer pratt he's been running a really interesting uh race with like
00:12:33 Really great ads.
00:12:35 And he's great ads.
00:12:37 You watch the debate and you're just like,
00:12:39 how could any human being think that this guy isn't the best of these three?
00:12:44 I just, I don't understand.
00:12:46 You know who he reminds me of, Stu, is, oh, what's the politician up in Canada?
00:12:51 Remember the apple eating guy where he's just like, yes, I love him.
00:12:56 I love him.
00:12:58 He reminds me a little of him where it's like, it's no sweat.
00:13:01 I don't really, whatever. 1.00
00:13:02 Just answering to these people, well, you're a moron and eating a bite of an apple. 1.00
00:13:06 I mean, it just it seems too easy almost for him. 1.00
00:13:11 Yeah. And obviously, he knows the media really well.
00:13:13 You look at the ad that he ran where he's showing off the houses of his opponents and then zooms out of his house, which is now a trailer because his house burned to the ground.
00:13:24 He has real credibility there.
00:13:26 And honestly, it's funny because sometimes a really positive thing can potentially wind up being a negative for you in your campaign.
00:13:35 It's obviously really difficult to win as a Republican in Los Angeles.
00:13:38 We know this is I'm not breaking news here.
00:13:40 Donald Trump lost to Kamala Harris 70 to 26 in 2024 in Los Angeles in a race that obviously Trump won overall.
00:13:50 So this is a very there's a big uphill battle.
00:13:52 The best path for Spencer Pratt to win is for him to win a race that looks something like, you know, Pratt 37 and then the other two at 30 and 28 or something like that.
00:14:05 Or, you know, 35, 32, 30, right?
00:14:07 Where he just squeaks out and is able to kind of go forward.
00:14:11 The problem with this right now is the last debate he did so well that it wound up just destroying one of the two opponents.
00:14:20 And you wonder if the left is going to now unite around Karen Bass, who is a catastrophe as a mayor.
00:14:27 But it does seem like the current path.
00:14:29 But he's got a shot. He's got a shot.
00:14:31 How about Steve Hilton?
00:14:34 Hilton, I saw you had him on.
00:14:36 Yeah, he's, again, you watched his debate.
00:14:38 We paid close attention to that one on our show, Predictable with Stu.
00:14:42 But we did, he was really good in that debate.
00:14:45 And, you know, he has a lot of credibility.
00:14:46 He has a way of being able to bridge a gap, I think, to a California voter who is at least
00:14:53 sensible.
00:14:54 And there are some there.
00:14:55 You know, Glenn, we've been on in California for, I don't know, forever since the beginning
00:14:59 of the show.
00:15:00 And every time we talk about California, we sometimes would generalize and say that they're 0.98
00:15:04 all insane.
00:15:04 And then there'd be people that would call up and say, wait a minute, no.
00:15:07 I mean, I have lots of friends.
00:15:09 Like, I swear we're not completely all like this.
00:15:12 But, you know, Steve Hilton, I think, really appeals to not only those people on the conservative side, but also people who I think can just step back and say, OK, look, I might even be a little bit on the left.
00:15:25 But, you know, I might not appreciate everything that Steve Hilton might stand for when it comes to certain policies.
00:15:32 But at least the guy's speaking common sense.
00:15:34 You know, he said on the stage, he's like, you know, you guys keep attacking us on immigration.
00:15:38 He's like, I'm the only one up here who is an immigrant.
00:15:40 that's who I am
00:15:42 that's actually
00:15:43 I'm the only one who has any credibility on this particular issue
00:15:46 he talked about that
00:15:48 and I thought he was solid
00:15:49 let me take a quick break
00:15:53 and I want to ask you about a new poll that I just saw
00:15:55 that is from Atlas Intel
00:15:56 on
00:15:59 Rubio and Vance
00:16:00 and I want to get your view
00:16:03 on what's happening with those two
00:16:05 here in just a second
00:16:05 talking to Stu
00:16:07 about, you know, the prediction markets
00:16:10 and what is actually happening now on the ground.
00:16:14 You can find him at predictableshow.com.
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00:17:41 so before i get to uh marco rubio and jd vance i want to ask you because we're seeing
00:17:57 i'm hearing talk here in london stew people are saying uh everything is changing or the
00:18:02 whole ground is changing beneath you know everybody's feet in in parliament i don't
00:18:09 know if that's entirely true i i think that the people are speaking up you know all of the local
00:18:14 elections are going way against the labor party and keir starmer and everything else but you can't
00:18:19 the same thing will happen if you get the same if you get john thunes sir john thune uh into
00:18:26 parliament you're going to have the same thing and and the people will feel be betrayed by you know
00:18:31 the people they just voted for and i i don't know so i don't know if anything is going to change
00:18:36 Are you sensing that any of that, do you feel any of that kind of movement in America in the races, that people are done with anything?
00:18:51 Are we waking up anywhere on anything, left or right?
00:18:56 I mean, I think some of that's happening.
00:18:59 I do think that we've seen some of the craziest, you know, if you look back at the era, you know, the sort of peak woke era, I do think some of that's receded.
00:19:09 And I think that we have seen some people waking up and wanting to see, hey, wait a minute, I just want rational people who are going to do sane things.
00:19:18 You know, when you look at, unfortunately, you know, where we are when it comes to just regular everyday life issues, you know, you're talking, we've been doing the show for a long time, Glenn.
00:19:27 How many elections has a party won with $4, $5, $6 gas?
00:19:31 I mean, it's not super common.
00:19:32 It's really hard to do.
00:19:33 No, it's not.
00:19:34 I mean, luckily, you do have the left that goes so insanely far.
00:19:39 I mean, like, there was an ad they ran against Spencer Pratt going back to that election,
00:19:44 which was the greatest ad of all time for Spencer Pratt, where it was like, 0.77
00:19:49 Spencer Pratt does not want to spend taxpayer dollars on the unhoused.
00:19:53 okay where do i check the box for this guy you know i can't get to the polling booth fast enough
00:20:02 i mean that sort of stuff is great the left it does have that ability to go so far i mean we
00:20:10 i mentioned that that uh debate the prediction markets were incredible on that uh mayoral debate
00:20:15 where uh the the third candidate who's kind of this ivy league uh educated woman who everyone
00:20:20 When she was the favorite at the time the debate started, she went in there and they had that debate and practiced very well. 1.00
00:20:26 He rose up, but she dropped so far, Glenn, she dropped by 40 percentage points in her chance to win that election following that debate.
00:20:34 To put that in perspective, after Joe Biden's debate, he dropped by 15 percentage points.
00:20:42 Oh, my gosh.
00:20:43 Think of how horrible that was.
00:20:47 yeah uh so i think there are people that do wake up in these situations it might feel really rare
00:20:53 but as we get closer to the election i think people will start coming back to that place where
00:20:57 it's not about all these crazy issues it's not about the personalities and the media it's going
00:21:01 to be more about how they feel republicans do have a lot of work to do to make that feel
00:21:06 good before november but they got they do have some time okay let me go to jd vance and marco
00:21:12 rubio those are the two big names in the latest poll it's marco rubio 45 jd vance 29 ron de santis
00:21:20 11 uh none of the above at 10 marco rubio is i mean he might be it's really interesting because
00:21:30 i think donald trump is allowing both of them to define themselves um jd vance is going to be the
00:21:37 guy that looks like i wasn't for the war um which is really healthy for him um and and he's also in
00:21:45 charge of of uprooting all of the fraud if he actually does that he'll that'll be really good
00:21:51 for him but marco rubio is just seen as i mean does he have keir starmer's job yet i i don't i
00:21:59 mean he does every job under the sun and he just looks normal quiet stable which america might
00:22:07 really be interested in you know what i mean yeah i really i mean certainly he's his performance
00:22:13 has been really impressive i mean we've watched his rise right glenn we remember talking about
00:22:18 him when he was you know in florida before he was running for senate yeah and you know he said his
00:22:24 ups and downs i think with conservatives at times but man he has been rock solid really i mean the
00:22:30 competence just just is so prominent from him everything that he does feels like he's handling
00:22:35 really, really well and nothing shakes him. And he's also a guy who really loves America
00:22:40 and thinks that there's something good here. There's something that almost feels old-timey
00:22:46 to it. And I, for one, love it. I just love someone who's going to stand up and say,
00:22:50 yeah, actually, we're not perfect, but we're still the best place around. We still are
00:22:56 the country that people should look up to. And I think there has been some of the negativity
00:23:00 that's not only seeped into the left where it's always been on America, but even on the right,
00:23:04 I think there's been some of that that's popped up lately.
00:23:07 So it's been really refreshing.
00:23:08 I do think, though, you look at this poll and, you know, one of the things that you look at when it comes to who's going to win the House is the generic vote.
00:23:16 The generic vote in this poll was really it was a 14 point plus for Democrats.
00:23:21 So a very if you think of that as a left wing base of a poll, Atlas is a good poller, but this was a very left wing sample.
00:23:28 They might like a Rubio more than a Vance.
00:23:30 They might like an AOC more than a Gavin Newsom.
00:23:33 so some of the poll reflections
00:23:36 might have to do with that sample
00:23:37 Thank you very much
00:23:40 Stu, I appreciate it, good to talk to you
00:23:42 and congratulations on the shows
00:23:43 and everything else you're doing
00:23:45 We'll have you back again, thank you so much
00:23:47 Stu does America, you can find
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00:25:08 don't miss glenn this saturday in front of parliament agitating go to glennbeck.com
00:25:15 slash torch to watch it all
00:25:25 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.
00:25:34 I'm in London.
00:25:35 The president is in Jed.
00:25:38 Pray for the president.
00:25:39 He just got off the airplane just about an hour ago,
00:25:42 and they gave him quite a state welcome,
00:25:45 rolling out the red carpet and then having weird Chinese cheerleaders, I guess. 0.92
00:25:51 And the army, it was quite an entrance for the president.
00:25:55 president, and he loves this. And it makes me nervous because he does love this. When people
00:26:00 treat him really well, he is more inclined to treat them well. You know, if the Democrats would
00:26:06 have done that when he came into Washington, D.C., I think we would have had a very different
00:26:10 president on our hands. Instead, they just attacked him. And President Xi is doing everything
00:26:18 he can to get Trump into his corner. We're going to talk about the China trip. We have a couple
00:26:24 People believe people, Melissa Chen is going to be with us here in just a few minutes.
00:26:27 And also Ambassador Brownback is going to be with us.
00:26:31 And we're going to talk about China, what he's doing, who's on the plane, who's not on the plane, et cetera, et cetera.
00:26:36 This is a very big deal.
00:26:37 Can I just take a quick moment and ask, who the hell is writing the cases for the Supreme Court from the state of Virginia?
00:26:47 i mean it is that i don't know if you've seen this um but they misspelled virginia
00:26:55 i mean obviously no ai is happening here who misspelled the state you're from apparently it
00:27:05 is uh who is it the uh who is i mean their attorney general is jay jones and that was
00:27:14 the guy that was talking about killing kids that's right jay jones and the solicitor solicitor
00:27:19 general tillman breckenridge and it's like me smart enough the right judge and say republican
00:27:26 mean i mean it is it's ridiculous how bad they they're saying now that this thing's just going
00:27:33 to be thrown out they filed it to the wrong court um i don't know good job virginia another really
00:27:42 super good choice uh there in virginia so you got that going for you now let's just talk about the 0.97
00:27:48 i mean turnabout is fair play let's talk about how much the republicans suck now here is john
00:27:54 thune on the save act listen to this we don't have the votes here for the filibuster um we did we
00:28:00 called it up on the floor let me stop let me stop let me stop let me stop you don't have the votes
00:28:06 for the filibuster hmm john whose fault is that could that be oh i don't know your fault
00:28:18 could it be could it be aren't in that your job to get everybody you can't just i mean you can
00:28:25 get everything else done you can get things that nobody in america is want except for you
00:28:30 stooges you can get all of that done but this one oh we just don't have the votes we don't but
00:28:36 Listen, he's trying really hard, your Bloodwell boy.
00:28:39 Listen to the rest of it.
00:28:40 We don't have the vote to get rid of the filibuster.
00:28:42 We did.
00:28:43 We called it up on the floor March, I think, 17th.
00:28:46 We were on it for several weeks and had a fair-spirited debate.
00:28:51 In fact, I actually, I think with the exception of maybe a couple of Republican senators,
00:28:56 made more speeches on the floor in support of the SAVE Act than almost any other senator.
00:29:00 And we had some votes on it.
00:29:01 And we voted on the narrow issue, which is the most popular one, of voter ID.
00:29:06 and we put the Democrats on the record.
00:29:08 Every single Democrat voted against it.
00:29:10 We added, and one of the other elements, also popular,
00:29:13 was whether or not biological boys ought to play in girls' sports.
00:29:17 We had that vote, and every Democrat voted against that as well.
00:29:20 So we've taken what I think are probably the two issues, in my view,
00:29:24 that have the broadest public support,
00:29:26 and put the Democrats on record, and every single one of them voted against it.
00:29:30 So we'll look for opportunities to get other votes.
00:29:32 There was a vote on the budget resolution, an amendment that Senator Kennedy offered that didn't even get 50 votes on the floor.
00:29:40 And so we're continuing to look for opportunities to advance that legislation.
00:29:46 Obviously, it's something that I support. I think we all support.
00:29:50 There's not enough SSRIs for me to listen to any more of that. There's just not.
00:29:55 I could go to the SSRI factory, and there wouldn't be enough to bring my mood up after John Thune speaks about that.
00:30:05 First of all, you got him on the record?
00:30:07 Oh, I'm so glad you got him on the record.
00:30:10 Woo!
00:30:11 Now we can run campaign ads.
00:30:14 You know who that reminds me of?
00:30:15 It reminds me of, I hate to bring this name up.
00:30:18 Hang on.
00:30:19 If you have any mood elevators, just take them because I want to bring up Orrin Hatch.
00:30:24 Orrin Hatch told me at one point, you know what? 1.00
00:30:26 I don't have to worry about all of these tea partiers. 0.99
00:30:29 He's talking to me like, Orrin, you realize I'm kind of a tea partier kind of guy, right? 0.96
00:30:37 Yeah, I don't have to worry about all these tea partiers.
00:30:38 They're going to love me.
00:30:39 All I'm going to do is I'm just going to take a vote. 1.00
00:30:43 I'm going to suggest we vote on a flag-burning amendment. 0.98
00:30:45 And then they'll all come running back. 1.00
00:30:48 Oh, my gosh.
00:30:49 Oh, my gosh. 1.00
00:30:50 I hate you so much. 0.99
00:30:51 No, no.
00:30:53 this is the same kind of thing listen to what he's saying listen to what he's saying we got
00:30:57 him on the record so you know and uh you know and we also talked to him about biological sports
00:31:01 we're not talking about biological males in sports we're not we're not talking about that
00:31:05 we're talking about the save america act it was different you know men in men's sports that's a
00:31:12 really good thing really really important i got this one's called the save america act you know
00:31:19 what it does it saves america and you couldn't find a way to get that one done you couldn't i
00:31:26 just couldn't muster it it's not that i don't want to pass it i just don't know how you are
00:31:32 i'm sorry but i i'm just not mature enough and i do not have the vocabulary to say anything else
00:31:40 but you're a giant wiener and that's and that's as good as that's as good as it can get for me
00:31:47 uh sorry glad you're on the record there john we know who you are no one should ever vote for this 0.96
00:31:53 guy ever again no one should ever vote for him ever again and you know what i mean china is 0.97
00:32:04 going to be our boss anyway ai i mean maybe i can hack into the system and i can get a list of all 0.63
00:32:08 of the people that are voting for john thune and i can go visit them at their house i'm like what 0.56
00:32:12 the hell are you thinking you want to be a wiener too no don't don't vote for him don't vote for him 0.77
00:32:18 long long memory this guy is worthless absolutely worth save america 80 percent including the 0.99
00:32:28 democrats are for this and you just i you know what i couldn't get anybody to vote for and i
00:32:33 just couldn't i couldn't do it i don't know what happened there i should it's like when you asked
00:32:39 me to help get you into iran after you know the regime falls and i'm like yeah yeah yeah i'm all
00:32:45 over that wait are you admitting something here that i think you're admitting something you
00:32:50 shouldn't be admitting uh i sent an email yeah i said a strongly worded email yeah yeah okay good
00:32:57 um here here john here's here's how you get it done um this one is from the uh the texas speaker
00:33:06 of the house cameron sexton um and it's going to the leadership karen camper in nashville tennessee
00:33:15 dear leader camper due to the actions taken by members of the democratic caucus during the second
00:33:22 extraordinary session of the 114th general assembly aimed at disrupting the democratic
00:33:28 and legislative processes and creating disorder on the house floor including but not limited to
00:33:32 remember seeing the footage of this where everybody was causing all kinds of problems
00:33:37 the democrats were interlocking arms in the well of the house blocking aisles on the house floor
00:33:42 instigating and encouraging disruptions of the legislative process in coordination with paid
00:33:47 protesters and attendees in the gallery including the distribution of earplugs to members of your
00:33:52 own caucus the use of prohibited props and noisemakers on the house floor demonstrating
00:33:58 the lack of respect towards fellow members seeking recognition to speak on legislation
00:34:01 and flagrant disregard for the permanent rules of the order of the House,
00:34:07 members of the Democratic caucus will receive individual letters
00:34:11 removing them from all standing committees and subcommittees of the House,
00:34:17 except where membership is required pursuant to Rule 65 of the House rules.
00:34:23 See ya, actually, he wrote sincerely, Cameron Sexton.
00:34:28 That's the way a man handles things, okay?
00:34:31 I don't know about you, John, but somebody has a wiener.
00:34:36 Somebody doesn't.
00:34:37 Which one?
00:34:38 I don't know.
00:34:39 That's the way you handle it. 0.94
00:34:42 When is anyone in the Republican Party going to have the balls of Tennessee? 0.93
00:34:49 That's exactly how it should have been handled. 0.95
00:34:52 That is the first.
00:34:52 It makes me want to move to Tennessee.
00:34:55 Don't test me, Tennessee.
00:34:57 I'll do it.
00:34:58 I'll do it.
00:34:59 He loves to move.
00:35:01 Nobody else does, but I don't have a problem with that myself.
00:35:06 Let's see.
00:35:08 Oh, in Virginia, and you'll never guess the county in Virginia where this is happening,
00:35:12 it has been revealed now that the Virginia student accused of photographing and videotaping
00:35:18 more than 40 students under a bathroom stall at Freedom High School identifies as transgender.
00:35:26 here principal tina brown sent an email to parents last month announcing that a student
00:35:33 had allegedly been caught recording another student under a bathroom stall now you as a
00:35:38 parent what would you do you get that letter what do you do i i don't as a dad i don't think i read
00:35:48 a strongly worded letter i i don't think i go well you know what let's see how this plays out
00:35:54 if i have a daughter or a son in that school i'm at the school immediately at the school
00:36:02 get this announcing that a student had allegedly been caught recording another student under a
00:36:06 bathroom stall brown issued a follow-up email last week stating that it was not an isolated
00:36:13 incident and urged more students that may have been victims to come forward
00:36:18 looks like there might be as many 40 as 40 people that have been photographed by this 0.56
00:36:26 dirtbag kid this seems to be a problem in loudon county you you think you think it really you 0.56
00:36:33 recall the father that was arrested during the school board meeting because of what happened 0.99
00:36:36 to his daughter by a quote gender fluid individual this is 2021 we're in 2026 what's wrong with
00:36:43 loudon county let me ask you this what's wrong with the democratic party let me take you to
00:36:46 seattle a seattle public school teacher under investigation over allegations she physically
00:36:51 abused a student is likely to become the next president of the seattle education association
00:36:57 the union for educators and staffers she is in she's under investigation that she physically
00:37:05 abused a student now listen this is this is what uh happened to her the parents of a third grade
00:37:10 student at rising star who has autism a speech delay is partially verbal the parents said they
00:37:18 notice bruises in the shape of an adult fingers on their son's arm in october and again in december
00:37:25 using visual aids they asked their son whether an adult caused the bruises and he identified
00:37:31 this teacher parents also alleged that in december their son's therapist saw her throw a marker at
00:37:39 the child's head which allegedly struck his face while he was working at the whiteboard
00:37:44 and she's going to be in charge of the teachers union so let me ask you what not not what's wrong
00:37:55 with the people in in uh virginia not not what's wrong with the teachers in virginia or the voters 0.64
00:38:01 in virginia not even about the transgender students that are going underneath a bathroom stall
00:38:08 what's wrong with the teachers and the democratic party what's wrong with the labor unions and the 0.75
00:38:15 democratic party because they seem to love to abuse kids one way or another it seems always to
00:38:23 be a teacher a union a democrat i mean what's the deal it's not always that way obviously
00:38:32 but it seems to be a problem what is happening with our teachers unions i gotta tell you
00:38:39 i say this all the time and i love teachers and blah blah blah blah blah blah there's lots of
00:38:45 great teachers but i don't know how you pay i cannot i can't put you into a you're a trustworthy
00:38:51 citizen if you're in the teachers union i can't do it i can't do it how many how much more evidence
00:38:57 do you need i mean you could just stop full stop hey by the way whose whose fault was it that our
00:39:02 kids were so scarred because of the masks and no school oh that's right it was the teachers union
00:39:09 full stop you could stop there but then everything that you see the teachers unions doing
00:39:15 is always against the students it's it's it's incredible to me this is just a a hive of evil
00:39:26 it seems to me and i don't know if you're a teacher if you're a good teacher how you don't
00:39:30 see things like this and go, I can't be part of that union. I just can't be a part of it. I'd like
00:39:35 to be, but I can't. They're so far away from anything that seems to be common sense and decent
00:39:41 when it comes to kids. I can't be a part of it. So I'm sorry, teachers, but there comes a time
00:39:47 when you have to distance yourself. There comes a time when you have to go, you know what? I got
00:39:51 to get up and leave. I can't do it. I'll give you an example. I did this last night and I did it too
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00:41:21 so teachers look i know you think all kinds of reasons uh you know i can't leave i can't leave
00:41:44 i got to do blah blah blah blah i experienced this last night um and i'm really ashamed of
00:41:49 myself it took me like 10 minutes before I finally just said you know we're leaving and we went to a
00:41:56 show on the west end and we went to this this show is the producers Mel Brooks always funny
00:42:02 Mel Brooks producer I've seen it a million times very funny at this one point they had they added
00:42:09 in, uh, Jesus in a loincloth with the crown of thorns being spanked by a guy in an S&M
00:42:19 mask and all leather.
00:42:21 And I was, I just put my head down.
00:42:24 I was like, oh my gosh, I can't believe and processing, processing.
00:42:27 And I finally looked at my wife and she's like, we got to go.
00:42:30 And I'm like, I agree.
00:42:30 We got to go.
00:42:32 But we were the only ones that walked out and it took me a few minutes.
00:42:36 forget it don't whatever you're thinking stop processing like that it's wrong you know it get
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00:44:22 the fusion of entertainment enlightenment and empowerment this is the glenn beck program
00:44:36 hello america welcome to the glenn beck program from london england uh all this week we'll give
00:44:45 you more information on that uh coming up in a little while but i want to talk to you about
00:44:48 the President's trip to China. It is fascinating to me. He landed in China about an hour and a half
00:44:54 ago, and they gave him quite the state welcome. And that is something that always plays for Donald
00:45:02 Trump. He loves that. I am really concerned about this visit for a couple of reasons. One, they're
00:45:08 not our friends. They don't like Donald Trump. He is causing them a major headache. And also,
00:45:14 we're bringing all our ai guys there uh what kind of deals are we thinking about making there 0.96
00:45:20 in china uh i i really i don't trust them at all and neither should you neither should the president
00:45:28 uh melissa chen joins us here in just a second melissa is the strategy risk managing director
00:45:32 out of new york she's also a journalist and a good friend of the program uh and uh she's gonna
00:45:38 we're gonna go deep here in china here for a few minutes we'll do that in just a second first let
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00:47:06 really good good um thanks for joining me in person i appreciate it i know what the traffic
00:47:11 is like uh here in london it is nasty it is nasty um but good news is gas is so expensive
00:47:19 who can afford to drive that's right um so i want to talk to you about the president being
00:47:24 in china he just landed um and they really rolled out the red carpet for him unlike i've
00:47:30 seen them roll it out for anybody else um playing into everything that donald trump loves
00:47:36 they're going to treat him like he's royalty what first of all any idea the president gets that
00:47:44 right he knows that we are not friends because i never hear him actually really go after china
00:47:51 in an overt way yeah yep that's right does the president know china is not our friend
00:47:58 oh the president knows okay all right and donald trump has been speaking up about china actually
00:48:03 since 2011 his rhetoric kind of dies down after he becomes president right but even on the campaign
00:48:11 trail in 2016 his rhetoric escalates he he says china is raping us they're taking advantage of 0.95
00:48:18 He's screwing us over.
00:48:20 And so he's been actually very consistent because he noticed that China's taking advantage of the trading situation with the United States.
00:48:27 But since he's become president, he's had to kind of dial down the rhetoric on the surface.
00:48:34 Which I'm totally fine with.
00:48:35 Right.
00:48:36 But?
00:48:37 But his actions have been to start a trade war in 2017, right?
00:48:41 So he broke what was bipartisan elite consensus at the time, which was engagement with China is good. 0.65
00:48:49 If they become rich, they will become more like us and they will liberalize and they will join the world order as responsible.
00:48:56 OK, none of that happened.
00:48:58 But Trump has been consistent on noticing that China was responsible for disrupting the global trading system, of de-industrializing, of shipping American jobs overseas.
00:49:12 And he's been talking about that, about the large trade imbalances.
00:49:17 Prior to Donald Trump, no one's really broken out of that paradigm.
00:49:21 so i think you know with trump on china always watch especially now that he's in power always
00:49:27 watch what he does not what he says i agree with that a hundred hundred percent um however
00:49:33 um you know he's bringing our our ai guys over what do you think that's about not just ai guys
00:49:42 he's bringing our biggest business how big like the top ceos including boeing um you know we should
00:49:50 also say he's actually bringing um i i kind of love the fact that he that marco rubio is there
00:49:55 on the plane with him and he was dressed in the tracksuit but but the best part about rubio is
00:50:01 actually that rubio is sanctioned by the chinese so in 2020 rubio was on the right side of the 0.94
00:50:07 hong kong issue he supported the hong kongers he's been consistently one of the most critical
00:50:12 of the chinese communist party that's good and along with ted cruz he was sanctioned so he's
00:50:18 not allowed to go to china his assets he didn't have any were frozen in china it was kind of like
00:50:23 political theater to make a point um and what the chinese did this time so rubio's name in chinese
00:50:30 is lu biao okay which sounds you know like that hey remember that asiana airlines thing when when
00:50:38 someone does the out low we too low outing bang okay never mind but it sounds like that
00:50:43 But instead of keeping the sanctions or rescinding the sanctions, what they did was just change Rubio's name in Chinese so that, oh, now the sanctions don't apply, right?
00:50:56 So instead of Lu Biao, they just changed the character of Lu so that it's like, oh, it's a different guy coming in, right?
00:51:05 Why would they do that?
00:51:06 Because it is a culture which cannot admit any political errors, right?
00:51:13 it's to save face like because to actually reverse the sanctions would be to admit oh we kind of
00:51:19 did something that is you know a mistake an error so i i think that is actually you know
00:51:25 very telling of how the chinese so what do you think the president is going for what can we
00:51:31 what can we come home with that you're like okay well that's good right um there are a few things
00:51:37 for America and China to kind of negotiate on.
00:51:42 You know, there is an ongoing trade dispute, right?
00:51:46 Since Liberation Day, there's been like tariffs here,
00:51:49 tariffs there, and then secondary tariffs as well.
00:51:52 So one of the things that they're going to be looking to talk about
00:51:57 is trade mechanics.
00:51:58 The second thing is that China's only card
00:52:02 is actually on critical minerals.
00:52:04 And so when the trade war escalated, China passed some export controls to prevent the United States from getting critical minerals.
00:52:14 China has about 70% of the world's critical minerals.
00:52:18 90% of the world's critical minerals are processed and mined, which is, you know, that's the important thing is the processing part.
00:52:25 But so every F-35 that we make, every Aegis radar, every tank, all these military things that we need for our U.S. military, they require super magnets. 0.97
00:52:39 And those elements are refined and extracted by the Chinese. 1.00
00:52:44 I mean, at the end of this, we need to really ask ourselves how the hell we ended up in this situation. 1.00
00:52:50 I know.
00:52:50 But because of that, China has cards in the trade war.
00:52:53 And so when they were displeased about the tariffs, one of the first things they did was pass export controls, saying, all right, we're not going to export to you critical minerals that you need for the military.
00:53:04 And so Trump has to come to the negotiating table on these critical minerals to make sure that China does not extend the export controls and allows some of the rare minerals to get to the US.
00:53:17 What's scary is Kearney, they just closed the mine.
00:53:21 China, they allowed China to buy the mine that makes that exact mineral, extracts it, and shut it down.
00:53:29 It's the only other place in the world that they were mining for that stuff. 1.00
00:53:33 I mean, Kearney is in deep with the Chinese. 1.00
00:53:37 Right.
00:53:38 But that's why Trump has been signing critical minerals deals with Chile, with everybody.
00:53:43 Quietly, we've been doing things in Greenland as well.
00:53:46 And that's part of the critical minerals play.
00:53:48 But the other thing that Trump really wants from China is some kind of indication that China would help on the Iran issue.
00:53:57 And the reason for that is that China is actually very dependent on Iranian oil.
00:54:02 12% of China's oil is coming from Iran.
00:54:07 50% of China's oil comes from the Strait of Hormuz, from other parts of the Gulf.
00:54:13 So from Saudi, you know, from various parts.
00:54:17 And so choking off Iranian oil has been China's suffering quietly.
00:54:23 They don't really want to show that they're suffering, but their factories, their tin pot refineries have been relying on discounted Iranian oil.
00:54:32 They're deep in bed with Iranian officials and the government.
00:54:36 Exactly. And so what Trump wants is, China, you're suffering because of this war.
00:54:43 You should be helping us.
00:54:44 You want to prove that you're a responsible world actor? 0.96
00:54:48 Help us pressure the Iranians because China's the only one that has leverage on the Iranians.
00:54:53 So do you think that one of the reasons why we, it just occurred to me, and this probably is wrong, 0.80
00:54:58 but one of the reasons he went in recently is, this trip's been on the book for a long time,
00:55:04 that one of the reasons was to be able to have this card to hold?
00:55:08 I don't know if he meant that, but ironically, it's working out that way. It's working out that way that like if you actually look, if China, if Trump went to China on January 1st of this year, he would not have the cards he has now because after the movement on Venezuela, after the movement on Panama, after the movement on Iran, it turns out that the United States actually has choke point leverage on China.
00:55:35 so they have extra cards and the chinese do have leverage why is it that nobody nobody in america
00:55:43 sees what he's doing with the choke points i mean i think this is one of the most brilliant things
00:55:48 i've ever seen a president do this guy if if this holds and we can solidify everything in 10 years
00:55:58 america is a different place 20 years we are really set and people will look back and go
00:56:04 that was the turning point this is the turning point i think with the way he's controlling wait
00:56:09 the what he's doing all around the world restructuring absolutely everything controlling
00:56:16 choke points all around the world and yet nobody seems to notice it nobody seems to at least in
00:56:21 america i was like yeah but my gas is yeah but yeah but yeah but you want to fix the world and
00:56:28 have america be viable for the next century this this is the bare minimum you you can do that would
00:56:35 hurt no i i totally agree because short of kinetic ultimately you the america doesn't want to get 0.52
00:56:42 into a war with its near peer right which is china yeah we're trying to avoid that and so
00:56:47 the whole strategy is to deny them in different domains and one of them is choke points it is a 0.81
00:56:54 it requires constant vigilance
00:56:56 because it's not just on choke points.
00:56:57 It is on trade.
00:56:59 It is denial of any kinds of leverage the Chinese have 1.00
00:57:04 because they've kind of mastered the art 0.95
00:57:06 of even turning economic engagements
00:57:09 into political warfare, right?
00:57:11 So everything is political warfare
00:57:12 and slowly they've been eroding that world system.
00:57:16 I mean, I see the original sin 0.90
00:57:18 as allowing China to enter the WTO
00:57:20 because that system was never meant
00:57:23 to accommodate a leninist marxist government people don't understand that they've never
00:57:28 there's never been a runnymede moment there's never been a moment of the magna carta or the
00:57:33 declaration of it they've never had kings have rules and answer to the people ever in china
00:57:40 never no so not only that you know the words for rights like individual rights for example
00:57:46 it didn't exist in chinese so it when books were translated it had to be invented and that's
00:57:51 because they didn't have a system they just never had the custom i mean they've never had that
00:57:55 moment where people have risen up and said wait a minute i have right they don't have that concept
00:58:02 at all and when they tried in 1989 when students took to tiananmen square right the students
00:58:08 actually built a statue of liberty they were holding pieces of the american declaration
00:58:15 generation hong kong they were holding the american flag and the minute we we got distracted
00:58:21 with covid the minute we looked away those people were all gone exactly i mean it's a bad i just 0.70
00:58:28 wish people would see china for what it really is i think my eyes are even opening on china a bit 0.98
00:58:33 more i'm glad on how bad they really have to be you have to be and especially domestically because 0.98
00:58:38 a lot is happening under so i want to talk to you about that because we just had the another spy
00:58:43 another mayor now is a spy i mean they are playing a long-term game they're looking at people they
00:58:48 can get long-term we'll bet on you and they're spying they're buying up farmland they're all
00:58:54 around our military bases i mean and we don't seem to do anything at all i mean china if we did any of 0.67
00:59:01 those things to china they would not put up with it right we just keep putting up with it i don't
00:59:06 know why well i'll get more from uh melissa here in just a second first uh let me tell you about
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01:00:09 seconds station ID so we're with Melissa Chen she is the managing director of
01:00:27 strategy risk that's a New York based business intelligence firm specializing
01:00:31 in geopolitical risk analysis primary focus on China the exposure for
01:00:35 corporations investors and policy makers and she also occasionally writes for a spectator about
01:00:40 China and global affairs and she's a good friend and we're glad to have her Melissa tell me tell
01:00:46 me about what how bad is it in America because I think some people who are paying attention are
01:00:53 like wait a minute they're buying up an awful lot of land you know they got farmland they've got
01:00:58 land all over the country they have land by some of our really important bases that balloon that
01:01:02 you know blew across yeah spy balloon was insane um and now we're seeing in california that they
01:01:10 are they're working and and co-opting politicians how bad is it actually the scope and depth of
01:01:19 this infiltration is breathtaking it's in every domain and you know one of the things that they
01:01:26 like to do is to actually exploit the gap between local the federalist system basically so you have
01:01:31 local and state governments, and then you have the federal level governments. The good thing about
01:01:37 this system is actually what is weaponized by the Chinese, right? So they're kind of experts at 1.00
01:01:43 recognizing how do we use American values or the American system against itself, right? So a good
01:01:48 example of this happening right now is birthright citizenship, right? The Chinese are having anchor
01:01:55 babies, for example, right? Using surrogacy laws, one man alone, a video game developer who's a 0.91
01:02:00 billionaire in china has 200 babies and he hasn't even met them through surrogacy laws and they
01:02:08 will obviously all become u.s citizens and so they're very good where was that story ricky was
01:02:14 that in houston that they found the the birth the birth centers yeah i mean they've had them
01:02:20 in california as well yeah i mean and they're just coming and it's clearly advertised in china as
01:02:26 this is what you're doing you're going to get you'll have a u.s citizen and they coach them how
01:02:30 a lie to the immigration officer so that eight-month-old pregnant women could be let into
01:02:35 the U.S. This is happening, right? So the plan is, I mean, those are not people saying, oh, 0.58
01:02:41 I want my child to be free and be an American citizen. This is a communist plan? Yeah, it's
01:02:48 a Trojan horse. Essentially, you can swing elections this way. Citizens have security
01:02:55 clearances that you know merely a pr or a or a visa holder will not have right and we've already
01:03:02 had this we've had spies you mentioned this mayor of arcadia but you have spies turning up everywhere
01:03:08 even chinese students bringing in pathogens studying at the university of michigan you have
01:03:15 spies and by the way you don't even need chinese citizens you they are able to convince even active 0.74
01:03:21 members of the military, U.S. citizens, they may be of Chinese descent or not, who end 0.93
01:03:28 up down, you know, just for $10,000, downloading all these plans and operational secrets from
01:03:33 the U.S. Navy, as just happened in San Diego, and sending it to the PLA.
01:03:39 So it's, the whole point is, you know, what exactly can we infiltrate and co-opt to advance
01:03:46 China's strategic goals against U.S. ones?
01:03:49 How far do you believe the stuff about their AI being ahead of us?
01:03:54 I think, well, I think China's kind of playing a different AI game than the US,
01:03:58 in the sense that the US still has the edge on, you know, chips and kind of model innovation.
01:04:04 But what China has advantages on is scale.
01:04:09 And so they can incorporate models very easily and very quickly into their systems and scale it up.
01:04:16 And so what China wants to do is if they get more people hooked on their models or hooked on their AI systems, then they set the norms.
01:04:25 They set the norms and standards for AI protocols.
01:04:28 It's one of the things they're trying to talk about today is try to get on the same page for the norms.
01:04:32 Exactly.
01:04:33 I don't trust anybody involved with the AI thing, let alone China.
01:04:39 Right.
01:04:39 It is so good to see you.
01:04:40 Thank you for coming by.
01:04:41 Thank you so much for having me.
01:04:42 You bet.
01:04:43 We'll have more on China here in just a second.
01:04:46 We have Ambassador Samuel Brownback.
01:04:49 He is going to be on with us here in just a second.
01:04:52 China has also got a big war on faith.
01:04:55 And how exactly are they warring on faith?
01:04:58 And he's going to explain as the president just landed in Beijing.
01:05:03 All that coming up in just a second.
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01:06:45 and terms. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We're talking about China this hour. I'm going
01:07:04 to get to some of the other things that are going on. The King just spoke here in Parliament. I'm
01:07:09 in London this week. He just spoke in Parliament. He said some really, I think, very disturbing
01:07:13 things about global warming and also digital id it is coming strong here um in uh england we'll
01:07:22 get into that here in a minute i'm reading a couple books um on china right now and and one of
01:07:27 them uh kind of goes into how we just don't understand china at all um because they've never
01:07:35 had um they've never had any religion they've never had any emperor at any time that has been
01:07:44 about human individual rights never so it's not even part of their as melissa just said not even
01:07:50 part of their vocabulary um to have these rights and there is presidency is not a good guy not a
01:07:58 good guy um and there is real persecution going on and i have to tell you i was in i lived in new
01:08:04 york for a while and i would pass these people who are on the streets the full-on gong people
01:08:10 and i'd pass them and i'd see these horrible things that they were saying and i never stopped
01:08:15 to really listen and i feel horrible uh now because now i'm beginning to understand what 0.97
01:08:25 the hell is going on in china and it's christians it's buddhist it's muslims full-on gong uh and 0.79
01:08:32 anybody, anybody who wants to, um, uh, be religious. Um, and they are now passing out 1.00
01:08:40 Bibles that change everything. They were replacing just as they did in, in, uh, fascist Germany under 0.67
01:08:46 Nazis, replace the pictures of Christ on any altars with the picture of their dear leader.
01:08:52 Uh, and one of the guys who really knows this, uh, is a former in, um, international religious
01:08:58 freedom ambassador and former governor of kansas samuel brownback sam just put out a new book
01:09:05 called china's war on faith because they are waging a war on faith and every american needs
01:09:11 to understand that china is not our friend in any way sam welcome to the program how are you sir
01:09:17 i'm good glenn and thank you for uh taking this topic on and being willing to talk about it i
01:09:23 I think it's just so critical, and I think we have just a real lack of understanding of what this is
01:09:29 and how significant it is that's going on.
01:09:33 Sam, I have to tell you, I think that we are in a spiritual battle.
01:09:39 We are not battling, I mean, Ephesians, we're not battling flash and bone.
01:09:44 We are not even battling a Republican, Democrat.
01:09:48 There is a spiritual darkness.
01:09:51 This is a spiritual battle on so many fronts. 0.89
01:09:53 So tell me about how China is waging this war on faith. 0.82
01:10:00 Well, really, that's the cover of the book. 0.81
01:10:02 It's a big dragon with strings controlling people underneath it is on the cover of the book showcasing this war that China has with faith.
01:10:13 You know, one of the guys that we feature in the book is Peter Hsu. 0.71
01:10:17 He was considered at the time, and one of the original house church leaders, the Billy Graham of China. 0.76
01:10:24 He's here with us in Washington with the book rollout, and he said yesterday that China has been biding their time until they got strong, but now they are revealing their inner darkness. 0.83
01:10:39 And we must restrain this power of darkness. 0.88
01:10:41 That's Peter Shue saying that, and I think that's what you're starting to see.
01:10:47 They are strong now, but this is all, they're at war with God.
01:10:53 They are at war with all faith.
01:10:56 They can't tolerate any power that's higher than the government's.
01:11:00 They will not tolerate it.
01:11:02 They will suppress it. 1.00
01:11:03 They will kill you. 1.00
01:11:04 They will put you in prison. 1.00
01:11:05 The rest of Christian pastors now is the highest, I would argue, since Mao. 0.96
01:11:12 And that's what Xi Jinping is doing now.
01:11:15 And it's out of control.
01:11:17 They want to control the place.
01:11:19 They want to control other authoritarian regimes.
01:11:22 And so they share their technology and ability to do it.
01:11:24 It is a direct confrontation to the Western civilization system that's built on the Judeo-Christian ethic of human dignity based on the individual created in the image of God. 0.53
01:11:35 So tell me, tell me, give me examples of what they're doing that people don't know. 0.96
01:11:41 In China, start there. 0.85
01:11:44 Well, most people don't know about the forced organ harvesting that you witnessed that the Falun Gong members would talk about. 0.91
01:11:51 But they will, if you're an opponent of the regime, they take your blood type.
01:11:58 They want to know who, what, what type of blood, what type of body you have. 0.66
01:12:03 and then at their desired time they will kill you and harvest the organs kidneys livers eyes
01:12:13 i did the forward for a book uh just recently out out on uh killed for killed to order uh where 0.95
01:12:21 these would be situated on a timing basis uh and and you know this is so glenn this is so
01:12:29 diabolical and evil it's hard for you or me to imagine a government even thinking of something 0.51
01:12:34 like this and yet they they do it and if china were and they are they denied of course and 0.94
01:12:40 everything actually for a while they didn't they said well yeah we did for those that were having
01:12:44 capital punishment we thought this would be a good utilitarian thing to do to go ahead and
01:12:48 harvest the organs but we don't do it anymore well they do still do it and they do it to 1.00
01:12:53 Falun Gong members. They do it to Muslim Uyghurs. Who all knows who else that they do it to? And 1.00
01:13:00 that's something I don't think people can fathom the evil of this regime. This is an evil regime,
01:13:07 and they have killed more people. The Chinese Communist Party has killed more of their own 0.99
01:13:13 people than any other regime in the history of mankind. Let that one sink in. If you count the
01:13:21 forced abortions the number is as many as 500 million yes and i'm not even counting the forced
01:13:31 i'm not even counting the forced abortions in the when the statement i made and then at the 0.99
01:13:37 current time they've got three genocides going on now as we speak the muslim uyghurs that we 0.87
01:13:45 had declared as a government the end of the first trump administration the tibetan buddhist that 0.97
01:13:50 they've gone at hammer and tong for decades now and doing a cultural genocide but they've wiped 0.79
01:13:56 out many people and of course the dalai lama cannot return to his own home area and the chinese 0.96
01:14:01 government wants to appoint his successor and then falun gong who they literally have decimated and i
01:14:08 think they fear the falun gong more than any religion because it's an indigenous eastern
01:14:15 religion it's what grandma used to practice uh and when they let it loose for seven years in 0.51
01:14:22 china where they said okay we'll let you guys practice this it went from zero to 90 million
01:14:27 adherents in seven years oh my god and it freaked the chinese government out and they said these 0.76
01:14:32 guys are dangerous and they went after him to eliminate annihilate him which is the definition
01:14:38 of genocide where you're trying to eliminate a whole group of people so sam you've talked to
01:14:44 the president about all of this stuff he knows what are you hoping when he sits down with seizing
01:14:49 ping um this week what are you hoping we can get out of this i glenn i think really both sides right
01:15:00 now just want to calm the waters for a little bit and get the temperature down i am i am not
01:15:05 expecting much i really hope he does get like pastor ezra jen out of jail jimmy lie there's
01:15:12 nine catholic bishops that are detained arrested i would hope they would release them i'm not
01:15:19 expecting that uh honestly i i just think really this meeting right now is just trying to about
01:15:26 cool the waters down but i think when they raise taiwan uh which is a no-go for us we should raise
01:15:33 religious freedom with them which is a no-go for them and just say okay you're gonna you're gonna 0.60
01:15:39 throw one out there that we don't like fine we're going to throw one out there you don't like because
01:15:42 they fear religious freedom more than they fear our aircraft carriers or our nuclear weapons
01:15:49 that's this is their achilles heel and we should go right out same way ronald reagan did at the 0.86
01:15:56 soviet union he traveled america talking about the godless commies before he was president and
01:16:02 citing the jewish refuseniks and it it undermined the regime its authority and its 0.99
01:16:08 and its legitimacy and that's what we need to do with the ccp 0.98
01:16:13 how are the underground churches in china are they still growing they were growing but
01:16:19 then they got cracked down on them hard are they still growing nobody really knows uh but
01:16:28 And over the last few years, most people have been citing the fastest growing Christian churches in the world have been the last couple years, last five years in, get this, China and Iran, where the persecution is the greatest.
01:16:45 But then that's where the faith grows the most is when it's under pressure and the rest.
01:16:50 I used to say if people actually understood Christianity, they wouldn't oppress it and suppress it.
01:16:56 They would subsidize it.
01:16:58 If you want to really kill Christianity, subsidize it, it really grows best under pressure. 0.96
01:17:07 I will tell you, I've talked to people who have escaped China, who were in prison in China for their faith.
01:17:16 And their faith is enormous.
01:17:19 But one of them has told me, you know what we're all praying for in China?
01:17:22 All the Christians are praying.
01:17:24 What?
01:17:25 They're praying that the United States is going to fall into really hard times.
01:17:28 And I was like, why, why, wait, why would you pray for that?
01:17:31 And they're like, cause you, you might remember who you are and you'll stand up and you'll
01:17:35 start serving God.
01:17:36 Cause we need your help.
01:17:37 I mean, that's, that's pretty amazing.
01:17:40 Pretty amazing.
01:17:40 Yeah, it really does.
01:17:43 I, the ones I've met and many of them have been in jail multiple times and they, they
01:17:50 call it a Chinese seminary.
01:17:52 um it's just their their faith is so beautiful and it's purified and there's a joy and a peace
01:18:00 about them that you look at you okay that's the real deal i've seen it i i you've you've been
01:18:04 with jesus i can see it sam i mean i'm in london this week last last question for the last couple
01:18:13 of minutes but i'm in london and um there is a real problem with freedom of speech here
01:18:19 uh and you know the the keeper of the flame the keeper of the protector of the faith
01:18:26 uh you know doesn't seem to be the strongest you know uh keeper of the faith here um how concerned
01:18:34 are you on freedom of speech and and where this is going with christians in the uk i'm i'm really
01:18:43 concerned uh so much so i and where i was headed in the u.s really before president trump came in
01:18:50 i got debanked the group i helped form national committee for religious freedom i mean how more
01:18:55 american can you be than that and we got debanked but there was this effort in the west to suffocate
01:19:01 faith and the principles the natural law principles that faith generally is around
01:19:07 and from coming into society because they weren't seen as the current cultural norms they were
01:19:13 against what people wanted to do.
01:19:15 And look, faith has always stood against things
01:19:21 that are trending the wrong way or evil in nature.
01:19:27 And it's always been this voice against that
01:19:30 and people want to silence that voice
01:19:33 by debanking, deplatforming,
01:19:36 and you see it more aggressively in Europe
01:19:38 than we had seen it in the United States.
01:19:41 But I've been deeply concerned about that suffocation move is what I call it.
01:19:47 It's not going to really throw you in jail the way they are in some places.
01:19:50 But most of it's just about taking the insurance away from crisis pregnancy centers so that their board of directors don't have any coverage.
01:20:00 And so people, well, I don't know that I want to go on there for that.
01:20:04 I'll be out there with you.
01:20:05 I'll contribute.
01:20:05 But I'm not going to lead if I'm putting everything else on the line.
01:20:11 So that's really the effort in the West that we've got to push back against and stand up against.
01:20:17 Sam, thank you so much.
01:20:19 Thanks for all your work over the years, and thank you for this new book, China's War on Faith by Sam Brownback.
01:20:24 It is out now wherever you get your books.
01:20:26 In it, he talks about the high tech, the digital authoritarianism that China is now pushing out over in 80 countries.
01:20:34 He calls them sinister new technologies.
01:20:36 also the campaigns on physical torture uh and imprisonment of people on faith these are all
01:20:42 things that you need to know if you're if you want to prepare for the world that we are entering in
01:20:48 and you want to be well informed so nothing's slipping by you you see the enemy in front of us
01:20:53 it's not just china this is all over the world start here china's war on faith by sam brownback
01:20:59 thanks sam appreciate it back in just a minute thank you glenn you bet uh all right let me tell
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01:22:27 you know we've been talking about the attack on religion here in the last few especially coming
01:22:46 from china but there is another attack um and you know it's strange even atheists understand this
01:22:52 one over the weekend um winston marshall had on his podcast sam harris i want you to listen to
01:22:57 what he said about how the left is being manipulated by islamists listen the left has
01:23:04 been successfully manipulated by islamists and apologists for islamists in certain cases this 0.53
01:23:10 is a knowing alliance and in certain cases just frank manipulation and people on the left are 0.72
01:23:14 morally confused you know i don't think someone like hassan piker is confused i think he knows
01:23:18 exactly what sort of alliance he has. And I think that's true of Mamdani too.
01:23:22 Do you think Mamdani is an Islamist? 0.98
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01:23:28 the phrase, globalize the Intifada, and that the worst he'll say of it is that he doesn't use that
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01:23:39 They were out on October 8th supporting Hamas. There's just no way that should be possible. 0.76
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01:23:52 Much less being the poster boy for the future of democratic politics.
01:23:55 So there's something very sinister about the way Islamists have spread their ideology through the West and targeted liberals. 0.91
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01:26:06 hello america welcome to the glenn beck program live from london uh i'm bringing in uh winston
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01:26:20 long time ago for getting kicked out of mumford and sons uh and uh i think that kind of woke you
01:26:26 up in a way, didn't it? Well, yeah, technically I quit, Glenn, but you are right that I was on
01:26:33 the wrong side of the woke mob five years ago, right at this time of the year. And welcome to
01:26:41 Britain. Careful what we say here. I know. You know you can get arrested. I'm going to have him
01:26:46 join me here in just a second. We're going to talk about some of the things, the crazy stuff
01:26:50 that is going on here in London that is on the way. Also, the king just spoke here and I think
01:26:56 He said some terrifying things, quite honestly, talking about talking about, you know,
01:27:01 modernizing the entire world while he's wearing stuff from the 1400s. 0.91
01:27:06 Looked ridiculous talking about the modern world in a crown. 0.69
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01:28:20 Glenn, it's great to see you.
01:28:21 And thanks for having me on your great show.
01:28:23 I'm excited to talk to you.
01:28:24 thank you so um the king well i you know i have to warn you i am a monarchist yeah i know you are
01:28:29 i know you are and i you know there's there's still hope for you there's still hope for you
01:28:33 there's still but you see you americans i understand i understand that sort of your
01:28:39 sense of conservatism is is actually built on rebellion and against the monarchy but you've
01:28:44 got to understand for us yeah our liberties are protected by the monarchy are they yes yeah i
01:28:51 i saw what he was talking about yeah there's been about 300 years since the monarchy ever
01:28:55 actually intervened to protect anyone but right uh nevertheless our tradition is that balance of
01:29:01 king uh technically it's monarch aristocracy represented by the peers although that's changed
01:29:07 under starma and then the commons represented by the people and we are governed by the people
01:29:11 so i've got news for you none of that's working for you right now none of that none of that's
01:29:15 working for you i mean well you look how the people are voting we're starma gonna leave
01:29:19 Starmer it looks like I don't know how he's pulled this off because I a day ago. I thought that was it
01:29:25 He's finished. I think he's going to last it and part of the reason is because there is no talent
01:29:31 In the labor party to replace him. The best option is is where streeting
01:29:36 Frankly, you know if he's I listen to that guy
01:29:39 I listened to the bbc yesterday and they were talking about him as if
01:29:44 As if there's nothing to see here this you know, these elections they don't mean anything
01:29:48 We've seen this before. And I'm like, what are you people talking about? The people are clear on this.
01:29:54 Yeah. Well, the BBC are completely soaked up in the same ideology as the Uniparty, as the Labour Party.
01:30:00 And frankly, as the Conservative Party has been for the last 15 years.
01:30:05 Remember with Keir Starmer, although he won with something like 35 percent of the vote, he actually had 20 percent of the electorate.
01:30:13 So four out of five people in Britain who could vote two years ago, the 2024 election, did not vote for Keir Starmer.
01:30:20 Think about that. Even Kamala Harris had something like 48 percent. Right.
01:30:24 But we are living in what America would be if Kamala had won.
01:30:29 And we are. And so is Canada. And so is much of Europe.
01:30:32 I mean, I think and, you know, I think we change everything once all of us who are fighting for personal liberties and common sense.
01:30:42 I think once we all understand, wait a minute, this isn't about Keir Sommer.
01:30:46 This is not about Donald Trump.
01:30:48 This isn't about, you know, any of the politics that every country is making about.
01:30:54 They're making it about local politics.
01:30:56 The elites are saying it's these people that are the problem.
01:31:00 No, no, no.
01:31:01 This is the people against an elitist government all over the Western world that has decided exactly how we're all going to live.
01:31:10 and when the people in germany understand and the people in england understand the germans are
01:31:16 getting the same thing we're getting the same thing then all of a sudden we start we start to
01:31:19 have real allies because then you have the population of every country going wait a minute
01:31:24 we're in this together yes you're absolutely right we're seeing the revolt of the people
01:31:28 against the post-war elite and you spelled out beautifully in your book actually about
01:31:33 the wef yeah and it's precisely that ideology that that has been the big fight now in america
01:31:39 of course with trump many of those battles are being won but in europe here it's still it's not
01:31:46 all to play for because i think the people are are going to win eventually but it's the last
01:31:52 gasps of that elite which is why actually starmer has his trying to pivot and create new enemies so
01:32:01 your colleagues have been banned from coming to britain you slipped i don't know how i slipped
01:32:05 through yeah it's kind of remarkable it's probably because you're a much bigger threat
01:32:09 Because if they went for you that would actually have political ramifications in the u.s. I suspect that's that's a that's right
01:32:15 But there's two other Americans have been banned a Belgian has been a politician
01:32:20 Polish
01:32:23 Politician member of the European Parliament what Starmer's tried to do and this is how he's saving himself here is he's trying to create 0.97
01:32:32 Bogeymen he's saying okay, Tommy Robinson and this march that's happening the far right there
01:32:37 I'm not the enemy. They are they're the enemy and if we can say we can focus the attention on here
01:32:43 It's the same reason why he banned Kanye West from coming over for anti-semitism whilst 1.00
01:32:48 Not actually do anything about anti-semitism not actually calling out the problem, which is Islam. That's where it's coming from 0.99
01:32:55 And by the way under Starmer
01:32:57 It's now the worst anti-semitism we've had in since Jews were allowed back into the country by Oliver Cromwell in the 1650s
01:33:04 we're talking 370 years only once in that period has a jew been killed for being a jew that was in
01:33:10 the 1960s by some of the far right we've had two jews killed at the end of last year by a man whose
01:33:16 first name was jihad and in the last month we've had various synagogues fire bombed we had two jews
01:33:25 stabbed in the neck in london this is happening and it's it's coming from very specific place 0.96
01:33:29 What's Starmer cat but he can't possibly say that because it he needs that Muslim voter boat 0.78
01:33:35 Base, so he's pivoting away. He's he's saying people like Tommy Robertson. They're the real I mean people like these the
01:33:41 The trying to come into Europe. They're the real villains here and that's how we need to
01:33:46 So are they that stupid though? I mean because you saw you know how the left and the Islamist 1.00
01:33:53 uh were the ones behind the revolution in iran and you know what happened to anybody who wasn't 0.92
01:34:01 an islamist all of the marxists they were all killed or tortured or you know disappeared 0.90
01:34:06 it's not going to work out well the king keeps playing footsie with these people and i'm like 0.99
01:34:11 they're not gonna they're not going to embrace you look do you think the king's playing footsie
01:34:16 with them king chuck yeah okay i've got to address this actually right because there's a popular
01:34:22 rumor online that the king is a muslim actually and no i don't believe that you don't believe that
01:34:29 no uh but people think he's he's kowtowing to them now one thing to remember about the king
01:34:35 is firstly he is a christian but secondly is he not a christian oh i mean i'm sure he is okay
01:34:42 well he's practicing i don't know he's he's the head the sovereign the head of state of several
01:34:48 countries around the world right and some of those countries are muslim majority countries so
01:34:53 he is the sovereign of large populations of muslims around the world so he's in this very
01:34:57 difficult position where he's head of the english christian church i've never had a guest defend the
01:35:01 king you're first it's great to hear it it's great to hear it it's it's refreshing kind of
01:35:07 well who says i'm not open to hear other opinions well there you go oh dear i hate it when i come
01:35:13 off woke on all these shows because i'm not woke this always happens when i speak to americans
01:35:17 conservative um no uh now i really do not like what starmer sorry what the his majesty has said
01:35:24 about some of this environment green ideology stuff and i i don't like the direction he's going
01:35:29 there i don't like it when these guys get in this domain of people get involved in politics i think
01:35:36 that is for the people and for the commons um but nevertheless he's in a difficult position where
01:35:41 He's got to be the representative not just of England and of Great Britain 1.00
01:35:46 But also the Commonwealth and other realms run okay the world and they're not Christians 1.00
01:35:51 So he's he's gonna get that. That's right. And that's a tricky head of the Church of England though 1.00
01:35:56 That's correct, but it's a difficult balance. Yeah, right. I I can see your point on that. Um, let's talk about his
01:36:02 Digital ID. Yeah, I'm very displeased about this. Yeah, this is being now to be just to be clear
01:36:08 So what he's reading out is being given to him by number 10, being given to him by the Prime Minister Keir Starmer.
01:36:15 So he doesn't really have a say.
01:36:16 He could if he wanted to object to things that are going on.
01:36:19 The last time that happened, I think, was literally over 300 years ago.
01:36:23 So they don't object.
01:36:25 The digital ID aspect, this is something I've been covering a lot of my show.
01:36:30 It is a system that Tony Blair tried to bring in when he was Prime Minister back in the late 90s.
01:36:37 and they've also incorporated it into tax now.
01:36:40 So as I've run several businesses,
01:36:43 I now have to sign up to this stuff.
01:36:46 It's very difficult for me to resist
01:36:47 and continue running my businesses.
01:36:50 That's the way they like it.
01:36:51 Exactly.
01:36:52 And the problem, of course,
01:36:54 is that you can see this playing out in China,
01:36:57 is that you will end up with a social credit score system.
01:37:01 If you think that this government
01:37:02 is stopping people coming in to the country, 1.00
01:37:05 what could they possibly do next not only that they all think that nigel farage is a fascist
01:37:13 he's not a fascist by the way he's he's a pretty traditional conservative as far as i can tell
01:37:17 who's gone against the elites as as just this start of this conversation he's he has been the
01:37:23 person in british politics who has stood against the globalized liberal elite it's funny because
01:37:29 in america people look at nigel farage and say i think what did he sell out he started to get a
01:37:35 little week on yeah i i think that so this is a very online thing and it's it's quite curious
01:37:41 actually if you think about the council elections that we've just had around the country where
01:37:45 reform his party formerly called the brexit party uh just completely dominated even the green party
01:37:52 who didn't perform as well and the green party are far left leninist you know unapologetic
01:37:58 communist group with an islamo faction to them even they didn't do as well as projected but
01:38:03 with nigel's reform party did much better and i think that possibly because this is online
01:38:09 people have forgotten how he's endeared himself to so much of the public and why he's so popular
01:38:17 here on the ground and partly that's because he's made tremendous self-sacrifice people say
01:38:22 sold out this is a guy in the early 90s who left the conservative party because they sold out and
01:38:29 did and signed up for the eu that was with the maastricht treaty and that's where even the tories
01:38:34 became the establishment became the globalist elite in that and they signed up to that ideology
01:38:40 rather would be a more accurate way of saying he said you know what no and that's by the way
01:38:45 the detriment of his own career so he spent his whole life in his professional life outside of
01:38:51 that bubble he then has been calling out illegal immigration at tremendous self-cost and by that
01:38:58 I mean, he's been a bogeyman in the same way that I know the media they will do pictures of Trump with like Hitler mustache and they
01:39:05 They've been doing that to Nigel for decades. Yeah, it's been a huge personal cost and social cost
01:39:11 and yet he was right he was right to say that we've been invaded and that 1.00
01:39:17 masses of people coming in at the detriment of the country and
01:39:20 There are a few other characters who have been who have been doing it
01:39:23 Seeing as you're speaking at tommy robertson's march 0.81
01:39:25 It's worth noting that he has been brilliant calling out the grooming gaps for decades before other people now nigel
01:39:31 is getting this flack and it's very strange for me to see this because 0.90
01:39:35 He is someone who actually has really got the credentials against the elite in a way that few people
01:39:42 Do I have to tell you I like him and I like tommy, but i'm not from england
01:39:47 So I don't I don't know, you know, I follow it
01:39:49 You know passing and I know I trust my god 0.99
01:39:53 and i'm pretty you know pretty good on my gut um but i i i don't know i i mean i like nigel i don't 0.79
01:40:00 see anybody else i mean you to be able to fight this you have to you're going to be called hitler
01:40:06 yes always to fight this you have to be outspoken you have to be tough and you have to be tough
01:40:12 skinned i mean donald trump is the i think he's the only one that could have lasted in america
01:40:16 he's the only one that could have put up with all this and still fought back and won yeah i think
01:40:22 america needed a bull like him yeah someone that could actually would thrive off the attacks and
01:40:29 and because no other individual because if you think of every single attack from the beginning
01:40:33 russia hoax all this all the way through the when he was out they were trying to get him
01:40:38 in the four-year period they'd just been relentlessly i just don't know another human
01:40:42 being who could have to tell you i've told excuse the audience excuse me for telling the story again
01:40:46 but a brit needs to hear this i talked to the president um privately and i said what what was
01:40:51 going through your mind when you were laying on the ground and butler and secret service were on
01:40:54 top of you and you're bleeding three times they've tried to kill him right okay he's on the ground
01:40:58 he's bleeding he knows he's been shot he can hear the other gunshots he knows what it's chaos around
01:41:03 him they're going to try to kill him do you know what he told me i said what is what are you what
01:41:05 were you thinking at the time get up get up you're not afraid of these people you want to be the 0.89
01:41:13 president of the united states represent the united states we're not afraid holy cow yeah
01:41:19 And you can't fake that at that moment. That's why he stood up and fight. Yes, true leadership representing the United States. We are not going to bow down to this kind of stuff.
01:41:28 Yeah, absolutely. True leadership. And that every nation needs that kind of thing, particularly the West needs it. And I'm very grateful the American has showed leadership where European leaders and elites have really failed. And they're actually pivoting away. I know you've been talking about China. They're going the wrong direction.
01:41:46 I I think if if Trump loses in 20 and 28 well Trump's not gonna run
01:41:51 But if we don't have somebody like Trump and if we lose Congress and the Senate and we lose this vision that he's working on
01:41:59 I think we turn right back to where you are today. Yeah, we turn on a dime
01:42:04 There's gonna be a struggle now. This is not easy. This is gonna be a fight really for the rest of our lives
01:42:08 I don't think that the elites are gonna go out with a lot outlast. He said he told me at one point. I need 12 years
01:42:14 not not me he said but to fix this he said i need my four years and we have to have two people
01:42:20 or two terms following me that are on the same path he said i think we can kill it in 12 years
01:42:26 but we can't afford well rubio has been extremely promising he's amazing i'm incredibly impressed by
01:42:33 the guy and i hope that he's your future guy if i can pull up one thing we've just skirted past
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01:44:06 Winston Marshall, go ahead.
01:44:10 Hi, Glenn.
01:44:11 Right, yeah, I just wanted to pick up on one thing you said,
01:44:13 which is that you said that people are worried that Nigel is selling out.
01:44:19 Yeah, I've just heard that from people.
01:44:21 Yeah, okay, so what I think has happened is that people are not so happy
01:44:27 that there have been several Conservative Party members, Tories, who have joined reform.
01:44:31 and most notably it's suela braverman who by the way when she was in the conservative party was
01:44:38 calling out the problems of multiculturalism and the diversity delusion at tremendous cost to
01:44:43 herself there's others like robert jenrich who maybe had been early part of the problem although
01:44:49 he'd been converted away from that along the way the problem that the british right now has is you
01:44:55 have two major parties reform obviously way ahead in the polls the conservative establishment who
01:45:01 We're still at something like 15%, maybe 20%.
01:45:05 And then you have the insurgent restore party
01:45:07 who are predominantly online,
01:45:09 but represent, even if they only represent 4% or 5%,
01:45:13 that is a significant threat to even the whole right winning.
01:45:19 And they could let in a left-wing coalition of some sort.
01:45:24 It's yet to be seen.
01:45:26 But the problem is that to defeat the establishment,
01:45:29 You need people who understand the establishment if reform were to reject anyone involved
01:45:36 With any experience in politics, then they were to get to power
01:45:40 They wouldn't know as much as they would if they have these two or three key individuals
01:45:45 Who can who can be precise and say no, that's the problem. That's the problem. There's the problem
01:45:49 Here's a problem. This is how we get as long as you're doing that strategically and knowingly, you know
01:45:55 who you're i mean donald trump put people in who were saying those kinds of things in the first 0.69
01:45:59 term yes and they stabbed him in the back correct the second term he and i would imagine nigel is
01:46:05 smart enough to know who the good guys are and who the bad guys are yes because then trump came back 0.60
01:46:10 with a real team that was really on the same page and knew where all the bodies were buried and look 0.70
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01:48:26 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.
01:48:30 We're talking to Winston Marshall,
01:48:33 who has his own podcast.
01:48:34 It's great from England.
01:48:36 uh when we're talking about uh the things that are going on in england and how it's happening
01:48:42 all over the western world and it is coming to america and it's coming with a vengeance
01:48:46 if we don't retain the white house in 28 um we're we're in real deep deep trouble um i want to ask
01:48:54 you i'm here for uh tommy robinson's uh march um and keir starmer said tommy robinson's large
01:49:01 scale march on saturday is quote designed to confront and intimidate the diverse city of
01:49:06 london yes what does he mean by that this is a classic progressive catchphrase or or
01:49:13 a word used to sort of virtue signaling diversity because for them diversity is the greatest
01:49:22 strength um yeah i mean actually i happen to believe unity is the greatest strength and
01:49:29 the problem they've got is that since the end of the war we've had this mass migration
01:49:35 before the war we'd been a pretty homogenous society for since king alfred basically with
01:49:43 a couple of periods maybe the normans the huguenots a few a few thousand huguenots came over
01:49:48 and we've had we had our problems with the scandinavians and i'm referring to the vikings
01:49:52 again that's a thousand years ago i love this country i love you know we had a problem with
01:49:56 vikings but that's a different story okay whatever we don't forget you see oh i know we have long
01:50:02 memories um but uh since the end of the war and particularly since tony blair we've had mass
01:50:07 migration migration on a scale that puts the two millennia before to embarrass me this is uh at the
01:50:14 moment um millions of foreign born in fact which isn't a problem if they wanted to be english if
01:50:22 they wanted to be a part of the kingdom even if they wanted to be english it's not it's totally
01:50:27 clear that on the scale that it's happened they could be so when it started happening in the 40s
01:50:33 50s right because it really starts in 1947 uh with um wind rush from the caribbean and but then
01:50:40 we also have eastern european and then slowly south asian uh immigration um but it happened
01:50:45 a scale that individual families would end up on a street with a whole english or british right
01:50:51 street and they would be they'd have to if they wanted to live integrate now when you have it
01:50:56 where it's gross numbers are over a million i mean the peak under rishi suna is 1.2 1.3 million
01:51:02 they're coming in they don't need to learn the language because they just the whole village 0.58
01:51:06 is so but here's the problem we because we survived that we had a you know um irish coming
01:51:13 in and they lived in an irish community and they we had the italians they lived in their italian
01:51:18 the difference was my my wife's uh grandfather his name was christopher columbus his brother
01:51:28 was called america his name his first name because they were first here they were the first born in
01:51:34 america okay they wanted to be american so they could live in that community but they still had
01:51:40 pride and love of country where i'm not so sure that's happening well the the the let's use the
01:51:48 american example seeing as you brought it up you will remember that at the turn of the 20th century
01:51:54 yes there was actually a lot of problems particularly with italians irish and jews
01:51:58 because that's where the those are the big thing coming in and what happened what the americans did
01:52:03 was i forget what year in the 20s it was but up until the 60s net zero immigration yes they
01:52:09 blocked all immigration which meant and that's by the way that's 40 years that's two or three
01:52:13 generations yes they said for that period of time no migration which allowed that huge end of the
01:52:20 19th century uh to become american to become american to integrate it takes two or three
01:52:25 generations i agree i agree and that's what we need to happen now so there's big conversations
01:52:29 about deportations and illegals should absolutely be deported but we've had this mass migration we 1.00
01:52:35 need a complete net zero a stop maybe even net negative yes to allow those who are here and to 0.99
01:52:42 find those who want sharia law i mean sharia law is poison it is poison yes so the problem with
01:52:48 sharia law is that we've got something like 85 at least 85 sharia courts and we've known this for
01:52:55 over 10 years now probably many more maybe double maybe three or four times more considering the
01:52:59 muslim population now the woke or the progressives will come back and say well there are jewish
01:53:04 courts here's the difference the jewish courts are subject to the arbitration is it the arbitration 0.81
01:53:12 act it's the 1996 arbitration act i believe that's right which means that they have to stick with
01:53:19 leg legal english civil war correct correct that is not that now there are some muslim courts that
01:53:24 do that and then there's a whole bunch of informal ones that don't uh likely in the hundreds uh many
01:53:31 hundreds possibly and that means that they have the de facto their own legal system now why this
01:53:39 is important actually seeing as i brought up king alfred i'll bring him up again the way pretend i
01:53:44 know who he is go ahead well the king of it's very you know who king alfred is sure he's very
01:53:49 important for the americans because the american project is an english project in my humble opinion
01:53:53 no it is it is it is but we're cousins no it is and that starts with king alfred and the way he
01:53:59 unites everyone on this island is he does it with four things he gives us a common language he says
01:54:04 english is the language because back then we had many many languages including latin kelp and all
01:54:09 this other ones he said you've got a common history and he translated some key pieces of work
01:54:14 so that everyone had access to it and he uh said that you have a common law and that's a another
01:54:22 really key aspect to it there was one law for the whole land that law would you know americans love
01:54:28 talking about magna carta 1215 actually it starts with king alfred and his dombock his dombock he
01:54:35 publishes the first law for all englishmen and that is the legal beginning of what would become
01:54:41 the american legal system and it actually starts with the 10 commandments and this is another
01:54:45 interesting part because a lot of people who now on the i guess maybe hard right say it's not a
01:54:51 judeo-christian yeah it's a christian country i'm sorry it starts with the 10 commandments the
01:54:55 mosaic law yep and so that's a very key um part of it even if the term judeo-christian is a modern
01:55:03 term the fact that yep the judeo system starts the old testament literally starts the old
01:55:09 testament and also of course jesus was jew but let's not digress too much or um uh so but the
01:55:17 point of king alfred is that he united this people it was a project it was not then yet an ethnos he
01:55:24 created an ethnos by having these binding factors and there's another thing people say about america
01:55:31 it's just an idea no it's not just an idea it's a people it's a history and it doesn't mean that
01:55:36 other people can't come into that but they have to take on that history as if it's their own yes
01:55:41 and alfred had that genius and he created that and by now with millions of foreign born who don't
01:55:48 speak the same language don't have the same don't accept english history in fact they're anti-english
01:55:53 history they say it's colonialists it's it's um imperialist and it must be destroyed and we must
01:55:58 take apart the monarchy or actually some of our english cousins across the pond say that as well
01:56:03 i don't know who you're talking about but uh that those were binding language religion law those
01:56:10 were binding things that made our nation and all of that has been um unbound which is the problem
01:56:16 you've got for someone like Keir Starmer I prime minister is he doesn't have an answer about how to
01:56:23 bind all of these people because the left doesn't they don't want to buy exactly history is an
01:56:29 inconvenience to them they can't be proud of it I'm actually incredibly proud of it and you should
01:56:33 be you might notice this being an American coming to Britain how unpatriotic people are or at least 0.82
01:56:40 maybe in London you see on the surface now in London now is a minor I mean minority white
01:56:44 british so when i was a kid i was told i was part of the you know the oppressor majority but now
01:56:50 we're literally the oppressive minority somehow or um we're not oppressors but you know what i'm
01:56:55 saying so the problem for the progressives is they can't have this unity this um this
01:57:01 idea that we're bound and that we have this proud legacy instead they have to deal with the fact
01:57:07 that they have all these newcomers and they are part of the same um legacy and for them to admit
01:57:13 that would have they'd have to admit that their whole worldview is doesn't function and this has 0.94
01:57:19 also been a problem since the end of the war one of the reasons we have our free speech problems
01:57:24 here in the country we never had free speech really in britain but it became a problem really 0.99
01:57:30 because after migration takes up you just then have this clash of cultures with the newcomers 0.90
01:57:36 and the and the british the english the indigenous let's say and they have this clash which is
01:57:42 not a good thing but it's kind of shouldn't be unexpected give you have different cultures 0.97
01:57:48 coming and competing with each other and consecutive governance including conservative 0.94
01:57:53 governments always try to deal with this with new speech laws right we've got the race relations act
01:57:57 we've got no more this no more that you can't say this you can't say that which is just completely
01:58:02 out of control so much so that only until this year i think we had non-crime hate incidents
01:58:07 where if you were said something that someone thought might have been offensive to someone else
01:58:14 that would be reported to police and would stop you from working in a school if you wanted to so
01:58:19 um all of this is sort of the post-war problem because of the victory of progressivism after
01:58:26 the war and in america you learn a different lesson you learned that america defeated fascism
01:58:33 even though we defeated fascism too for some reason we learned this lesson that nationalism was bad
01:58:40 and this is embarrassment about being english that that will be overcome because actually
01:58:47 that's a that's a relatively new concept and actually we're a proud ancient people yeah and
01:58:53 once we get that history back i think that that's that's the solution but start if i can just shock
01:58:59 some of your american viewers into keir starmer and just how dreadful he's been because they'd
01:59:03 heard of some of the things but i know that seeing as it's a conservative station yeah go ahead and
01:59:09 i don't mean that as a slight under starmer now abortion is no longer illegal up to birth
01:59:17 i don't know if there's some places in the states where that's the case no you can't do that
01:59:23 there's a few states there's a couple states now it's not legal for a doctor to give an abortion
01:59:31 um for a woman a second i think it's after um 24 weeks which is the latest in europe already
01:59:39 but if a woman was to administer it to herself she would no longer be punished by the law which
01:59:45 of course means that it will increase so that's one of the more shocking things but under him
01:59:51 We've had 72,000 illegal immigrants from the channel crossing alone predominantly men
01:59:57 military-aged men who are doing I mean since you since you've been here we hear stories of
02:00:03 Teenagers being raped and abused last year. We had when his name was Wayne Broadhurst in West London
02:00:10 killed by an Afghan asylum seeker 1.00
02:00:12 The terrible atrocities are being carried out by these people. It must stop at all costs 1.00
02:00:18 starmer has deported four percent of the 72 000 last week was the 200 000 mark since 2018 of
02:00:27 illegal marshes this is just from the channel crossing by the way there's a lot more coming
02:00:31 through the airports who overstay their um welcomes this is a massive problem i say i said
02:00:36 earlier that now the white british are an ethnic minority in london it's also the case that for
02:00:42 Birmingham and Manchester, but we have 1.5 million foreign-born people in this country on welfare
02:00:49 So what we need and what Nigel should do which I think he'll be the next Prime Minister and frankly
02:00:53 I hope so I really I do too. I admire him greatly
02:00:57 We need to deport all the illegals of which I think there's at least 1.2 million 1.00
02:01:03 And we need to stop welfare for foreign nationals 1.00
02:01:06 We need to prioritize the British people if that happens as we've seen in America 0.99
02:01:10 a lot of others will self-deport and it's not going to be fun it's not going to be pretty
02:01:16 but it's cannot be that in our generation the great project started by king alfred the great
02:01:24 is finished and everything all power all hands on deck frankly and that's one thing i want to
02:01:32 see for the unity you know someone like tommy romerson and nigel they won't be seen in the
02:01:36 same room but they are both they both are unlike kistama patriots and they love the country and
02:01:44 even if they're not going to fight side by side it seems like and i could name a hundred others
02:01:49 all the british patriots need to recognize that we love this country and we're all fighting for
02:01:55 the same thing i tell you that's why i'm here i mean i don't know i don't want to pick sides this
02:02:00 is your fight you know i mean i'm here just to say i love england i love great britain you know
02:02:06 i don't i don't know everything there is about it i'm not you know i'm just a i'm a traveler who
02:02:12 has watched it from far and i'm your cousin and you can't let this go you just can't let this go
02:02:19 and everybody whether you agree on everything or not if you can agree on a few things we should all
02:02:25 kind of stand together because the whole western world is facing this right now and we got to stand
02:02:31 together well as long as america stands at least you know i'm hopeful about that that at least yeah
02:02:37 thank you so much we'll talk again god bless all right back in just a second
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02:04:04 Glenn Beck.
02:04:17 i had a great time with a guest today i really like i like everybody that was on the show today
02:04:28 um winston he just he just walked out so we can talk about him now wasn't it cute the way he
02:04:33 he was defending the king i mean it was cute i'm sure he doesn't want to be like you and get kicked
02:04:39 out for you know being a rabble rouser yeah well let's just lock him up in the tower i don't know
02:04:43 what they do to you know you know to people here you know you speak out against the king but um 0.98
02:04:49 more people should do it because well i mean we broke away i mean that was the right answer
02:04:54 that was the right answer don't get free health care anymore what i think that's what happens
02:04:58 that's the punishment for you don't get free health care i got news for you sweetheart they
02:05:02 don't get free health care now uh but anyway um tomorrow we have the former prime minister on do
02:05:08 we not i believe we do have one of the prime ministers one of the prime minister yes we have
02:05:13 Liz Truss on tomorrow
02:05:15 and perhaps Hot Eva
02:05:17 who was banned. Shut up. 1.00
02:05:19 Is she coming? Shut up. 1.00
02:05:20 She's from, where is she? 1.00
02:05:22 She's from the Netherlands. The Netherlands.
02:05:25 Hot Eva. She's not been
02:05:26 allowed to come in for Tommy Robinson's
02:05:29 rally. So we're going to let her say it
02:05:30 on the air here.
02:05:33 That'll all be on tomorrow's show. You don't
02:05:34 want to miss it.