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00:02:12.420 Believe it or not, the old man is still around kicking and giving money to extremists.

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00:03:50.600 We go to Gabe Kaminsky.

00:03:51.800 He is the reporter for the Washington Examiner.

00:03:54.760 He's an investigative reporter.

00:03:56.460 And he has found some new information on just how evil George Soros really is.

00:04:03.540 Welcome, Gabe.

00:04:04.140 How are you?

00:04:05.720 Glad and good to be with you.

00:04:07.860 Thank you very much.

00:04:08.900 Okay.

00:04:09.080 So tell me what you found and what tipped you off.

00:04:12.900 Yeah.

00:04:13.500 We found that the George Soros dark money left wing grant making network over the last decade

00:04:19.560 has granted at least a million dollars to an organization that is based in the Gaza Strip

00:04:26.160 that shares close ties to several U.S.

00:04:31.020 designated terrorist organizations, namely Hamas, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine,

00:04:37.120 and also Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

00:04:39.600 To many of your listeners, this may not necessarily come as a big surprise given they're probably

00:04:45.120 familiar with megadonor Soros' grants to, you know, pretty extremist organizations over

00:04:51.300 the last, for a very long time.

00:04:53.740 But this is particularly notable because this organization, Al-Maison Center for Human Rights,

00:04:58.720 which claims to be a human rights organization, though some of its board members actually were

00:05:02.840 formerly leaders for Hamas and are actually attended various events with the Popular Front

00:05:09.100 for the Liberation of Palestine, this group is calling and exerting pressure on the United

00:05:13.780 Nations to take aim at Israel after the October 7th terrorist attack.

00:05:18.220 And so our story today takes a really deep look at all that significant funding over the

00:05:24.660 years.

00:05:24.920 You know, can I ask you, there are some countries in the world that have banned George Soros and

00:05:32.180 named him an enemy of the state.

00:05:35.580 He has done so much damage to countries all around the world.

00:05:40.580 And in this one in particular, what would it ever take for people not just to ban him, but

00:05:47.640 at least have a kind of universal recognition that the guy is, is not a, is not laying out

00:05:56.380 healthy paths for democracies.

00:06:00.220 Yeah, for a very long time, right, Glenn, the political left has framed it in these terms

00:06:05.780 where if you, you know, have the gall to call out some of these very controversial funding

00:06:11.840 from Soros, apparently you're anti-Semitic.

00:06:14.620 And I think that our reporting and various stories really just debunked this ridiculous

00:06:20.560 myth.

00:06:21.080 I mean, George Soros is funding organizations that share close ties to violent terrorist

00:06:27.320 factions.

00:06:28.020 When we reached out to his organization, they did not seem at all concerned about it.

00:06:33.480 In fact, his spokesman, a former State Department spokesman for Barack Obama, Jonathan Kaplan,

00:06:39.160 he had said that their organization is proud, quote unquote, proud to have made that

00:06:44.340 funding.

00:06:45.280 They also said, defended the funding.

00:06:47.780 They said it is legal given that the organization is not a U.S.-designated terror group.

00:06:52.420 We spoke to a terrorism financing expert at the Zachern Legal Institute and others who would

00:06:58.300 like to see there be stricter laws surrounding terror-linked charities like the one that they

00:07:03.580 funded, getting U.S.

00:07:04.700 money to begin with.

00:07:09.660 And the government, nobody is looking into this.

00:07:16.760 Nobody seems to care.

00:07:17.980 And how much damage has this done to our relationship with Israel and to how much positive is this

00:07:28.200 done now to Gaza and Palestinians?

00:07:33.920 Look, I mean, yeah, we're not aware of whether or not the U.S. government is looking into this

00:07:38.920 funding.

00:07:39.240 It's something that some Republican lawmakers that we spoke to would desperately like to

00:07:44.840 see done.

00:07:45.520 They're not really banking on the IRS, one of those dormant federal agencies that doesn't

00:07:50.860 really have a reputation of not really doing all that much.

00:07:54.500 But look, I think this is the sort of funding that we want to make sure people are aware

00:08:01.180 of as they look at kind of some of the more influential funders across our country and they're

00:08:08.260 able to better understand kind of how sort of where he moves his money.

00:08:13.720 And in this case, it's to a group that we found through social media posts and archived

00:08:20.260 social media posts, including, by the way, I would highlight there are individuals at

00:08:25.580 this organization that George Soros funded that have literally written articles on the

00:08:30.200 official website of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, a terrorist faction

00:08:34.440 that participated in the October 7th terrorist attack.

00:08:38.000 I mean, it couldn't be more direct.

00:08:40.340 And we just really want to make sure people can take a look at that.

00:08:44.660 Gabe, we've seen a real public shift over the past few months where

00:08:49.660 the government now, you know, I mean, we're abstaining from votes in the UN Security Council.

00:08:56.160 How much, do we have any idea how much of the funding, you know, this funding leads behind

00:09:00.760 the scenes to these changes in positions?

00:09:04.640 Yeah, good question.

00:09:05.860 I mean, so the grants between, from the Open Society Foundation, they're earmarked, quote,

00:09:11.000 to monitor and document violations against Palestinians and pursue accountability for abuses, as well

00:09:16.920 as, quote, human rights, international humanitarian law violations in the Gaza Strip.

00:09:21.760 Now, to be clear, in the eyes of this organization, humanitarian law violations are literally just

00:09:28.720 the idea of Israel existing.

00:09:30.320 And they make that pretty clear if you look at their website.

00:09:32.600 So what we can say, definitely, is that, you know, large amounts of money are going from

00:09:39.500 the U.S.-based to U.S.-based Soros Tide foundations, actually the only U.S. foundations that we've

00:09:46.500 found that give money to this organization.

00:09:48.500 And it comes as this group is going on the floor of the United Nations and essentially accusing

00:09:54.380 Israel of genocide and urging the United Nations, which, by the way, has a Palestinian aid agency

00:10:00.440 that shares deep ties to Hamas itself, right?

00:10:04.420 So, look, this group's actions are pretty ridiculous.

00:10:09.840 And I think, I don't know if we're holding our noses for the IRS to do anything anytime

00:10:15.780 soon, but people would like to see that.

00:10:18.260 That would be fascinating.

00:10:19.560 Do we have specific ties to politicians in this?

00:10:23.000 I mean, I know, you know, Bernie Sanders didn't vote for the funding bill and, you know,

00:10:26.360 he votes for any funding bill, but this one he didn't vote for because there wasn't enough

00:10:30.460 funding going to the organizations that actually committed the rapes on October 7th.

00:10:35.680 Do we have any idea, you know, if this is being specifically curated by any of these politicians?

00:10:43.680 Well, so this, right, this is, these are grants that have taken place in the private sector,

00:10:48.420 right?

00:10:48.660 Now, certainly, we do see sometimes cases in which George Soros has funded, you know,

00:10:55.860 radical anti-Israel organizations that also have, you know, actually gotten taxpayer dollars.

00:11:01.880 And that sort of brings open a whole can of worms.

00:11:04.120 In this case, we have not seen, you know, U.S. money directly.

00:11:07.640 I will say, pretty wild.

00:11:10.020 This organization is not just funded by George Soros.

00:11:12.400 They also happen to be funded by the European Union, the Netherlands, Sweden, and sort of

00:11:17.940 various foreign charities.

00:11:19.240 And we track that through sort of various financial disclosures.

00:11:23.480 The European Union, I mean, these are the sort of things that you'd assume, right, that

00:11:28.100 good journalists overseas in Europe would be banging on their doors and asking questions.

00:11:33.280 I mean, does the European Union stand for terrorism?

00:11:36.700 Is that kind of what they're about now?

00:11:38.240 So, Gabe, is there anybody looking into this?

00:11:42.080 Because we are on this suicidal path now where it seems we are funding all kinds of things

00:11:49.500 that are bad for our own culture.

00:11:52.340 And you look at Europe.

00:11:56.220 They've just put out a really stern warning about Russia-style attacks in the European Union

00:12:05.520 all throughout the European Union, perhaps here in America over the Easter weekend.

00:12:12.400 And yet they're paying, they're helping fund some of these radical organizations.

00:12:20.880 Any explanation why you think this would be happening?

00:12:24.480 Well, I think it's happening quite simply because, I mean, we have seen for decades that George

00:12:34.060 Soros and other Democratic megadonors have had pretty much no issue bankrolling groups that

00:12:40.380 documented terror ties have long existed.

00:12:43.740 And I think that, I will say that, look, we've put this on the radar, this funding on certain

00:12:51.720 lawmakers in Congress who have jurisdiction over, you know, tax-exempt organizations and

00:12:56.980 the IRS.

00:12:57.740 I'd note that, for example, the House Ways and Needs Committee is the committee in the lower

00:13:02.400 chamber that has jurisdiction over IRS, nonprofit organizations.

00:13:06.080 And they have the ability to go after groups and send subpoenas, given their majority right

00:13:12.600 now, to bring powerful people before Congress.

00:13:16.540 That's something that we've seen.

00:13:19.720 They've begun to investigate Hamas-linked charities in the United States.

00:13:23.740 Now, to be clear, Al-Maison Center for Human Rights is not based in the United States, but

00:13:28.440 their finance year is George Soros.

00:13:31.120 And his organization certainly operates domestically and with a $25 billion operating budget.

00:13:39.240 I had somebody ask me just the other day, why would George Soros do all of these things?

00:13:44.680 Why would he get involved in, you know, in particular, like this particular case that you have exposed

00:13:51.380 down the Washington Examiner today?

00:13:53.000 Um, how do you explain George Soros being Jewish and really doing everything he can to

00:14:03.400 help crush the Jewish state?

00:14:05.820 I'll tell you what, Glenn.

00:14:07.300 We've seen that there is a real network of terrorism-linked charities operating in the United

00:14:14.480 States and overseas that continuously gain, have received money and donations, uh, from

00:14:22.100 pretty mainstream organizations.

00:14:24.040 I mean, we covered late last year extensively how the Ford Foundation, the Tides Foundation,

00:14:31.240 uh, Eric Schmidt's Foundation, ex-Google CEO, some of these very massive groups had given

00:14:36.840 money to a terrorism-linked charity called Alliance for Global Justice in Arizona that literally

00:14:43.000 sponsors a group sharing employees with the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine,

00:14:48.000 a U.S.-designated terrorist organization.

00:14:50.980 Jeez.

00:14:51.540 Uh, but the question, right, the question to begin with is why are they giving this money

00:14:55.420 in the first place?

00:14:56.100 Well, I think it's pretty clear these are massive groups that don't do their due diligence looking

00:15:00.580 into it.

00:15:01.080 I mean, our reporting, we've seen PayPal or Stripe or payment processors drop, uh, some

00:15:07.800 of these charities upon us reaching out and they act completely oblivious.

00:15:12.040 And so, but ignorance is not enough.

00:15:14.420 I mean, these, this information is well out there and documented, uh, and someone's not

00:15:20.420 doing their research.

00:15:23.340 Unbelievable.

00:15:24.200 Gabe Kaminsky, thank you so much.

00:15:25.980 Uh, thanks for the story.

00:15:27.120 It is out in the Washington Examiner today.

00:15:29.620 Gabe is a, uh, Washington Examiner investigative reporter.

00:15:32.480 Again, uh, talking about George Soros pledging a million dollars to Hamas propaganda organization

00:15:39.500 that is linked right directly to terrorism.

00:15:42.700 Thank you so much, Gabe.

00:15:44.480 I appreciate it.

00:15:45.180 Yeah.

00:15:45.500 You know, there's a, there's another thing, Stu, that, uh, is interesting to me is all of

00:15:51.500 these billionaires on the right, uh, I'm sorry, on the left that just give billions of dollars

00:16:00.320 to destroy the West.

00:16:02.800 And I just don't see the billionaires on the right that are standing up to defend our Republic.

00:16:13.640 It, it, I, I just, I don't get it.

00:16:16.280 What are you going to do with all that money when there's, you know, we have plenty of money,

00:16:19.820 but nothing our money could buy.

00:16:21.560 What are you going to do with all that money?

00:16:23.960 How, how do you not give everything now to try to turn the tide against this?

00:16:32.000 Um, when this is the system that gave you the opportunity to have all of that money.

00:16:40.580 I mean, there certainly are examples.

00:16:43.120 Uh, I mean, I'm sure Donald Trump would note that he would be one of them, right?

00:16:47.060 Well, there you go.

00:16:48.160 There you go.

00:16:48.580 And look what they're doing to him.

00:16:50.320 Sure.

00:16:50.680 I mean, this is of course, you're the, the answer to the other side of your question,

00:16:53.680 right?

00:16:53.940 I mean, there are a lot of people who, who donate money.

00:16:56.300 I mean, Peter Thiel has been involved.

00:16:58.060 This has been a lot of people who have donated, uh, adult, the Adelson family, of course, when,

00:17:03.580 I mean, there's a bunch, but, but I, I do share your frustration at some level.

00:17:08.020 It does seem like, I mean, and at some level it's understandable, right?

00:17:11.580 Like, you know, conservatives are, you know, they, they think about business.

00:17:15.880 They don't think about like, you know, uh, all of these, like trying to buy influence.

00:17:21.340 That's not necessarily the way that they do things.

00:17:23.720 I think the typical conservative thinks, I want to go out and make a good company.

00:17:27.300 I mean, I want to give people some enjoyment in the realm of capitalism and, and reap the

00:17:31.740 fruits of that.

00:17:32.400 But, uh, it just seems that the, uh, you know, the left gets a little more ideological on

00:17:37.180 those things.

00:17:38.740 All right.

00:17:39.360 Uh, back in just a minute with more on the terror threat that has been issued for Europe.

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00:19:18.880 Uh, I saw a, a video yesterday from one of the major news organizations, and I'm not going

00:19:27.100 to play it today nor talk deeply about, uh, what they said, because it could very well

00:19:35.280 be a deep fake.

00:19:36.180 I haven't seen it reported anywhere, but I saw this video, somebody sent it to me with

00:19:43.020 my own eyes and for the life of me, I don't know if it's true or not.

00:19:49.080 Um, but I can find online from the European conservative, Austria, France, and Italy have

00:19:55.980 all issued warnings of potential terrorist threats to Europe by the Islamic, uh, state,

00:20:03.620 ISIS following the group's Monday concert hall attack that killed 139 people.

00:20:09.120 French government increased the country's security alert to its highest level, which

00:20:13.820 means more soldiers will be put on standby and ready to patrol sensitive sites, including

00:20:19.300 schools.

00:20:20.220 According to the prime minister, France has thwarted two attacked attack attempts, uh, by

00:20:27.620 ISIS since the start of the year, including a foiled attack on the city of Strasbourg.

00:20:34.280 Did you see what, um, Vladimir Putin is now saying what his spokesperson said last night

00:20:43.500 about the theater attack?

00:20:46.040 Yeah.

00:20:46.120 They're talking about how they don't believe ISIS K has the, the resources to pull off such

00:20:51.440 an attack yet.

00:20:53.420 Not only that, they are now saying, uh, publicly to their own people and to the world that ISIS

00:21:00.300 was created by the United States and they're only seemingly attacking those enemies of the

00:21:06.980 United States.

00:21:07.660 So they are now beginning to make the case that we're responsible for the terrorist attack

00:21:14.200 in Russia.

00:21:15.340 Right.

00:21:16.000 Yeah.

00:21:16.400 Uh, no.

00:21:18.060 Now there's all, there's also reporting to that his inner, Vladimir Putin's inner circle

00:21:23.000 knows that this is not true and knows that Ukraine had nothing to do with it, but I mean,

00:21:29.360 you'd expect them to try to use this to their advantage, right?

00:21:32.040 Like I, I don't have a high opinion of their moral clarity here.

00:21:37.160 No, nor do I, but I don't like to see them make the case.

00:21:41.660 And, you know, it's really kind of hard to defend.

00:21:43.960 We told you what Benghazi was all about.

00:21:46.080 The media refused to follow that story, but years ago we followed that story and we told

00:21:52.860 you that it was a gun running deal, um, that involved, you know, uh, the, the, the likes

00:22:01.260 of John McCain and Hillary Clinton.

00:22:03.860 Uh, and it was a gun running deal from Libya, Benghazi to what became ISIS in Syria.

00:22:11.720 So in a way we did arm them.

00:22:14.900 We, you know, hope they were going to fight apparently on our side insanity, as we told

00:22:21.280 you at the beginning.

00:22:22.720 But now Russia is using that against us and propaganda that is hard to thoroughly dismiss.

00:22:30.720 It's easy to dismiss.

00:22:32.220 We were working with them here, but we did aid them at the beginning.

00:22:39.720 All right.

00:22:40.500 So, uh, they're warning churches to make sure that you are on high alert just a few months

00:22:45.580 ago.

00:22:45.760 Now on October 7th, Hamas began its war with Israel.

00:22:49.040 It's continuing, uh, on to this day.

00:22:52.700 And remember in a couple of weeks, uh, the red heifer is going to be sacrificed.

00:22:58.900 We'll tell you about that, uh, probably into next week.

00:23:02.840 We have some new information on that and that could have a real effect on what's going on

00:23:08.900 in the Middle East.

00:23:10.180 The Israelis have had to leave their homes.

00:23:13.080 Uh, there are people that have been evicted.

00:23:15.900 They have no place to go and the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, the IFCJ

00:23:21.800 is right there in the middle of it every day.

00:23:24.800 They've been distributing essentials like food and medicine and emergency supply for hundreds

00:23:29.420 of thousands of people who are Israelites and they're, they're suffering because of what

00:23:35.640 happened.

00:23:36.620 The world's not paying attention to Israel in its desperate need right now.

00:23:41.200 The IFCJ is there supporting them and giving them life-saving, uh, medications and food

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00:23:58.120 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:24:13.320 We're glad you're here.

00:24:14.440 Um, I think I'm coming home, uh, maybe, maybe tomorrow.

00:24:18.980 Uh, yesterday I told you that we were up at the ranch and I have a broadcast barn, uh, and

00:24:24.480 I walk, you know, in the middle of the night, early, early in the morning, uh, completely

00:24:29.740 dark.

00:24:30.460 And I walk from the, the ranch house to the barn to do the broadcast.

00:24:35.780 And, um, yesterday I had the door open and, uh, Jamie, the engineer was sitting in here

00:24:42.880 with me and we heard like, and then all these birds fly, but it was a weird something.

00:24:50.200 Uh, and I said, I looked at him and I said, what the heck is that?

00:24:54.000 He said, I don't know, birds and something getting killed or something.

00:24:58.720 I don't know.

00:25:00.020 And so, uh, uh, we just kind of dismissed it.

00:25:03.980 And about five minutes later, I walked out of the, uh, broadcast barn and you know, that

00:25:11.820 purr that cats do, except it was like really low.

00:25:15.580 It was like, uh, and the birds, all of a sudden the birds out of this bush, just like lit off.

00:25:24.560 And, uh, then that kind of low growl backed back into the broadcast part.

00:25:30.100 I went, I think you're a kitty, kitty, kitty.

00:25:32.880 I think there's a mountain lion out there yesterday after the show, one of the guys here in town

00:25:39.420 that runs a country store, um, Jamie went down, he was having lunch and he was talking

00:25:44.320 to the guys there and he said, yeah, we, we think we found a really big mountain lion that

00:25:50.380 may be stalking us.

00:25:52.180 And the guy said, oh yeah, there was a, a photographer, a wildlife photographer that

00:25:57.980 just came down just, uh, I guess a couple of weeks ago.

00:26:01.320 Um, and had been tracking this mountain lion of unusual size, uh, and tracked it to

00:26:10.180 the ranch and went down to the store and was like, how do I get permission to get onto

00:26:14.500 this ranch to continue tracking him?

00:26:16.400 So we have, I know it's like the fire swamps, but we have a cat of unusual size.

00:26:23.800 Uh, and, uh, I think I'm going to come home.

00:26:26.940 I kind of, you know, as much as I like the mountains and everything, you know, Pat, but

00:26:31.740 the giant cat for this time of year, he should really enjoy the natural beauty of the outdoors,

00:26:36.180 you know, and those of us with broadcast barns, I, I have a hard time leaving mine.

00:26:42.120 Uh, yeah, I do.

00:26:43.400 Shut up.

00:26:44.120 I do.

00:26:45.700 I gotta tell you, man, I, you know,

00:26:48.500 Armadillos usually prowl around my broadcast barn.

00:26:52.220 Yeah.

00:26:52.500 Oh yeah.

00:26:53.560 That's terrible.

00:26:54.020 Usually.

00:26:54.560 I gotta tell you, you know, we have all been talking about, we gotta be prepared.

00:26:58.800 We gotta be able to, you know, we gotta be able to amputate legs if we have to, without

00:27:04.120 any medicine, you know, I don't want to live in that world.

00:27:08.140 I don't want to live in that world.

00:27:09.720 I, I mean, a cat, a cat, we were driving home late, late last night.

00:27:15.600 Uh, and Tonya had flown in and I had just flown in.

00:27:18.440 I gave a speech up in, uh, in Boise, Idaho.

00:27:21.640 And, uh, so I had just flown back and it's about midnight last night.

00:27:25.820 And as we're driving in, uh, one of the guys who knows apparently about cats, uh, said,

00:27:35.120 yeah, they, they're very, they'll, they'll stalk you.

00:27:37.800 If they know there are humans around and they're hungry, they'll lay in wait and they'll

00:27:43.300 stalk you.

00:27:43.980 And I'm like, is it too late to get back on the plane?

00:27:47.260 Can we, can we just go home?

00:27:49.620 I just rather worry about an angry mob.

00:27:51.960 Yeah.

00:27:52.200 That's a little frightening.

00:27:53.240 I'd rather deal with that.

00:27:54.260 It is.

00:27:54.940 It's terrifying.

00:27:56.160 There's been something that's happened.

00:27:57.260 Like there's a convergence lately of like conservative thought and this like, uh, I don't know, natural

00:28:05.860 struggle, right?

00:28:07.180 Like where like, you know, I'm going to get up and I'm going to take a cold shower every

00:28:10.100 day or I'm going to do a cold plunge in the morning.

00:28:12.160 And like, there's, there's a lot I like about that, but I don't like it in reality.

00:28:17.400 Like I like the thought of like, we need to be challenged and pushed to our limits.

00:28:21.680 I don't want to be challenged or pushed to my limit though.

00:28:24.940 Yeah.

00:28:25.280 No, I think there's a big difference between a cold plunge and a mountain lion.

00:28:31.940 Right.

00:28:32.280 I get that.

00:28:33.980 I was talking to somebody last night about what, about, uh, Theodore Roosevelt, Theodore

00:28:39.520 Roosevelt.

00:28:40.020 I mean, you want to talk about a different age.

00:28:41.940 Theodore Roosevelt used to take his like six year old kids out into the woods and leave

00:28:47.940 them there and go, find your way home.

00:28:50.180 You're going to be independent.

00:28:52.460 What?

00:28:52.940 What?

00:28:54.460 Wow.

00:28:54.880 I know at 60, I don't want somebody to leave me alone in the woods and say, find your way

00:29:00.580 home.

00:29:00.940 No, thank you.

00:29:01.940 No, no.

00:29:03.940 It's just a different world.

00:29:05.400 Even if the woods are on like the outskirts of a target parking lot, I don't want to be

00:29:08.860 left there.

00:29:09.740 No.

00:29:10.720 No.

00:29:11.620 You know, it could be Victoria Park and I don't want to be left there.

00:29:15.700 No, thank you.

00:29:17.640 Uh, all right.

00:29:18.840 Welcome to Pat Gray from Pat Gray Unleashed.

00:29:21.400 Pat, what's the big story of the day?

00:29:23.080 Uh, one of my favorite stories is that, uh, the Biden administration has allotted some money

00:29:27.820 in the new Biden budget for the border.

00:29:29.600 Finally, the border security, we're going to get some security there and they've allocated

00:29:35.100 about $380 million to support enhanced border security in Egypt, Lebanon, Oman, Tunisia, and

00:29:48.080 Jordan.

00:29:48.820 So we got that going for us.

00:29:51.500 I will tell you though, you've left something out.

00:29:54.020 He's double dipped on Georgia or Jordan because there are two, um, pieces in this, in the current

00:30:01.660 legislation that just passed last week where Jordan gets, uh, extra money for their border.

00:30:07.360 And then, uh, in a second part of the bill, Jordan gets extra money with everybody else

00:30:14.400 for their border.

00:30:15.500 But, uh, well, that's part of our Jordan first policy, which I think a lot of Americans are

00:30:20.540 totally in love with.

00:30:21.520 Really?

00:30:22.080 Yeah.

00:30:22.260 We have a Jordan first policy policy.

00:30:24.880 Yeah.

00:30:25.220 You know, it's, you know, it's crazy.

00:30:26.740 Do you know why they're protecting their borders?

00:30:29.540 Jordans?

00:30:29.900 Because of the Palestinians.

00:30:32.400 Oh yeah.

00:30:32.880 Right.

00:30:33.320 They don't want the Palestinians crossing their borders.

00:30:36.760 So we are supporting the Palestinians and then going and supporting the countries that

00:30:43.040 are trying to keep the Palestinians out.

00:30:45.420 Right.

00:30:45.840 I mean, have you seen the border between Egypt and the Gaza Strip?

00:30:50.200 It's incredible.

00:30:51.180 It's, it's incredible.

00:30:52.620 It's impenetrable.

00:30:54.440 I mean, they really don't want Palestinians coming into their country.

00:30:58.280 Oh, the only thing they don't have are those big, those big catapults that take the flaming

00:31:03.780 rocks and throw them.

00:31:04.820 Yeah, that's about it.

00:31:05.720 And I think those are on the way.

00:31:07.100 It is so medieval.

00:31:08.480 That's what they're going to use this $380 million for.

00:31:10.920 Rock catapults.

00:31:12.660 It's absolutely amazing.

00:31:14.580 And it's, it's fascinating to me.

00:31:16.760 We're the only country on earth that is expected not to do anything at the border.

00:31:21.880 That it just, we have to put the welcome mat out.

00:31:24.800 No matter where you come from, no matter what you're doing here, no matter whether you're

00:31:29.420 coming illegally with drugs or terrorism or whatever.

00:31:33.640 Come on in.

00:31:34.620 Yeah.

00:31:34.780 And we're certainly the only country on earth that is expected to do all of this for other

00:31:39.320 nations.

00:31:40.140 Like I, yes, I mean, I get, you know, if we were in a place of true prosperity where we

00:31:47.460 had, you know, trillions of dollars in, you know, not in deficits, but you know, the other

00:31:52.260 way around where you have more money than you need.

00:31:54.440 I don't know.

00:31:54.880 This sounds crazy for, for any government official who might be listening, but it is theoretically

00:31:58.700 possible to have more money than you spent.

00:32:00.540 Um, and if we had that, like, maybe you'd understand, right?

00:32:04.320 Like people saying like, Hey, you need to help out now.

00:32:06.620 I don't know.

00:32:07.240 That still wouldn't be our jobs, but when you are owing 20, 30, 40, 80, $100 trillion for

00:32:14.980 things you can't pay for, how can it possibly be part of the package that we're going to

00:32:18.820 be doing this?

00:32:19.440 Yeah.

00:32:19.840 Well, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:32:21.800 I mean, it, you, you could make the case that if we had, you know, let's say $40 trillion

00:32:28.920 in, you know, surplus walking around money, you know, that was just sitting in a bank,

00:32:35.040 you could make the case.

00:32:36.600 Okay.

00:32:36.820 Let's help Jordan and Egypt and everything else, but you couldn't make the case.

00:32:41.080 Let's help Jordan and, and, uh, Egypt and everybody else with their borders and fund

00:32:47.780 Hamas.

00:32:49.420 It would still be insane.

00:32:51.820 Yes.

00:32:52.120 Even if you had the money and we're doing it and we're doing it and we're doing it.

00:32:56.980 And we're at a point where our government is changing roles now with Israel.

00:33:02.040 We're now, we're like letting these resolutions go through that condemn Israel.

00:33:06.800 They say that they can't go into certain areas.

00:33:09.140 We're now abstaining from those votes instead of opposing them as we always have.

00:33:12.800 And at the same time, we don't seem to do anything to criticize Egypt or Jordan for

00:33:18.860 not helping in this situation.

00:33:20.260 Why don't they reports on it?

00:33:22.500 Right.

00:33:23.000 And they're saying that, that the people in the, the, the people in the Gaza Strip are

00:33:27.740 now down to Rafa and they've got nowhere to go after this.

00:33:31.180 Well, whose fault is that?

00:33:32.820 Yeah.

00:33:33.200 It's the Arab country's fault because they could go there if you allowed it, but they

00:33:38.240 won't because every time they have opened their border, every country in the Middle East

00:33:43.380 has had a revolution started by the Palestinians in those countries.

00:33:49.260 They know they don't want them there.

00:33:51.640 They know if it wasn't for Israel, the Middle East would declare, um, the Palestinians an enemy

00:33:59.640 of their states.

00:34:00.740 They just use them to destabilize and to hurt Israel.

00:34:05.720 They don't have any love for them at all.

00:34:08.320 None.

00:34:08.780 That's for sure.

00:34:09.880 Well, Jordan, um, occupies twice the Palestinian territory that Israel does.

00:34:16.140 You never hear about that.

00:34:17.380 Nobody ever talks about that.

00:34:19.100 Why aren't they to blame for occupying Palestinian territory?

00:34:23.200 It's, it's just such a ridiculous situation and, and Israel's an impossible situation.

00:34:30.240 Uh, there's, uh, some, some new things here that I want to talk to you about.

00:34:33.980 Um, and I think it's very exciting.

00:34:35.900 You guys are going to be very excited in the next 12 to 24 months, Swift, you know, the

00:34:42.400 Swift system of, you know, monetary exchanges that we kicked Russia out of Swift is going

00:34:49.080 to be launching a new central bank, digital currency platform in the next 12 to 24 months.

00:34:57.180 Yeah.

00:34:58.260 Yeah.

00:34:58.820 But I want to remind you, the government has no intention of doing anything like this.

00:35:06.280 If anybody says anything about things like this, we've been told for a very long time.

00:35:11.860 That's a conspiracy theory.

00:35:15.100 Except now it's not, it's just a story from Reuters.

00:35:19.720 Uh, thank you, Pat.

00:35:20.640 Yeah.

00:35:20.820 Pat Gray unleashed.

00:35:22.440 You can hear him every day on blaze TV or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:35:26.780 All right.

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00:37:41.320 The Glenn Beck program will be right back.

00:37:55.600 So this Easter week coming up next hour, we're going to be talking about, uh, the shroud of Turin with Jeremiah Johnston.

00:38:07.380 He is the author of a book called body of proof.

00:38:09.820 He never believed in the shroud of Turin.

00:38:12.640 Um, and, uh, he has done a lot of homework.

00:38:16.280 He's actually writing a whole book just on the shroud of Turin.

00:38:19.840 It wasn't a Catholic relic, uh, until 1980.

00:38:24.660 Um, it wasn't in the Catholic hands.

00:38:26.920 Um, and it has been hidden several times, including during World War II because of Adolf Hitler, who had plans of stealing the shroud of Turin.

00:38:35.480 And so we're going to talk a little bit about that with, uh, Jeremiah coming up in, in just a few minutes.

00:38:40.640 And even if you're not interested at all in any of those topics, it'll be worth listening to because Glenn had about three hours of sleep last night.

00:38:48.560 And, uh, I think there's at least, you don't need to, at least a 10 to 20% chance you fall asleep during the interview.

00:38:55.500 Uh, I, in fact, I think that may have happened during the first interview we had today, judging by, I think it was the second question you asked,

00:39:03.000 which took about 45 seconds for you to ask, but only contained two or three words.

00:39:09.640 Uh, so I, okay.

00:39:12.060 Okay.

00:39:12.560 All right.

00:39:13.000 Come on.

00:39:13.360 It's not just me.

00:39:15.320 Everybody has had those moments at work where you're talking to somebody and you're not fully there.

00:39:24.020 You haven't heard a word they've actually said.

00:39:26.700 And all of a sudden they've stopped talking and they're looking at you for your response.

00:39:30.560 And, and you kind of wake back up and you're like, and well, I, yeah.

00:39:37.860 And that's why I think, cause I got into that.

00:39:41.420 He stopped talking and I realized I've been dead asleep.

00:39:45.300 I haven't heard a word he said.

00:39:46.300 So I tried to ask a question that was vague enough so he could answer some way, some other thing than what he just said.

00:39:56.820 Cause I had no idea what he just said.

00:39:59.200 And I was so afraid that I'd ask the question and he'd go, dude, I, I just answered that question.

00:40:06.040 This is what, this is where your radio, just me.

00:40:10.880 I mean, everybody has this, right?

00:40:12.660 This is where your radio hall of fame career comes in handy because any reporter who's on, you know, you look as much as, you know, I like to make fun of you.

00:40:19.220 You've had quite the career.

00:40:20.540 You're a, you're a broadcaster of some stature.

00:40:23.880 No one wants to call you out like that.

00:40:25.460 I mean, even if it was a complete re repeat, they would just say, oh, well God, you know, that's a good point.

00:40:30.120 And I'm glad you focused on that again, because I wanted to make sure I clarified exactly what I just mentioned and said, and they'll just go with it.

00:40:37.220 So I think you have now reached the status where people will coddle you in from your bad questions into generic answers.

00:40:44.920 Stu, who is the guest that we had on, uh, where I fell as I did an hour long interview.

00:40:51.640 Do you remember this?

00:40:52.320 I did an hour long interview with them on the TV set and I fell asleep during every single answer.

00:41:01.680 Who was that?

00:41:03.480 And at the end, it was live.

00:41:06.340 And the guy said, at the end, he looked at me and he said, that was the most amazing thing I've ever seen.

00:41:12.920 You were asleep and the questions made sense.

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00:42:54.100 Welcome to the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment.

00:43:03.280 This is the Glenn Beck Program.

00:43:08.420 Hey, hello, America.

00:43:10.700 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:43:12.240 So, here's some good news for Easter week.

00:43:16.620 The Democrats on the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors, you remember Fairfax County.

00:43:23.060 Fairfax County is the one that immediately called out the parents for being terrorists at the school board meetings.

00:43:30.040 Fairfax County, now the Board of Supervisors, has voted to designate Easter Sunday as Transgender Visibility Day.

00:43:40.180 Which I just think, you know, there's this phrase that keeps coming to mind.

00:43:44.840 I'm trying to remember exactly how it was phrased.

00:43:47.720 Oh, I remember.

00:43:49.140 God will not be mocked.

00:43:51.660 I just love that.

00:43:53.000 So, anyway, the proclamation goes beyond the supposed intent of making transgender people and transgender ideology activists feel seen on Easter.

00:44:03.380 Members of the Board are also sending a message to Christians that they really don't matter, you know, because we're going to turn one of your holiest days, in fact, the holiest day of the year, into Transgender Visibility Day.

00:44:16.580 Chairman Jeff McKay, a Democrat, you know, he played some lip service to the importance of advocating all constituents when the board passed this resolution.

00:44:27.720 He said, quote,

00:44:28.280 So, I guess what he's saying there is, hey, we're recognizing Easter as we change it into Transgender Visibility Day.

00:44:49.100 Let's talk about Easter, shall we, in 60 seconds.

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00:47:10.280 Yesterday, we had Jeremiah J. Johnston on.

00:47:13.860 He is the author of a book called Body of Proof.

00:47:16.720 He is a, he's got his doctorate, but so do I.

00:47:20.460 So, I mean, what does that mean?

00:47:21.980 I know I'm a doctor of humanities and I didn't even study for the test, but he's also the president of Christian Thinker Society, Preston and Baptist Church.

00:47:33.720 And we were talking yesterday about the Shroud of Turin, which surprised me because a lot of people, especially in the South Baptist and Evangelicals, they don't necessarily hold to the traditions of the Catholic Church.

00:47:52.320 And I think we all have unbelievable pieces of the puzzle.

00:47:58.840 And one of those pieces, I think, is the Shroud of Turin.

00:48:03.280 And I didn't know what to think about it until a few years ago.

00:48:08.220 But he's writing a whole book on the Shroud of Turin, so we thought we would bring him back today.

00:48:14.880 This is the burial cloth of Jesus Christ.

00:48:19.120 That's what it's purported to be, the burial cloth.

00:48:22.940 And it is a reverse negative.

00:48:26.380 It is almost like when his body came back to life, this way I view it, his body came back to life.

00:48:33.080 But life, it's like the burial cloth was like a film, and it printed in a burst of light, it printed the negative of his body in that cloth.

00:48:49.480 And nobody really knows how it was made if it is fake.

00:48:53.960 Jeremiah, welcome to the program.

00:48:55.640 Glenn, it's great to be back with you.

00:48:57.060 And I'm sure we have people that right now they're like Thomas Didymus.

00:49:00.420 Remember Thomas the twin that he said in John 20, verse 25, hey, look, you can say Jesus is God, good for you.

00:49:06.780 But unless I see his nail-scarred hands, unless I can put my hand in his side, I won't believe.

00:49:13.940 Well, guess what we're going to do today on the Glenn Beck program?

00:49:16.320 You're going to be able to actually see the nail-pierced hands of Jesus, thanks be, to the Shroud of Turin.

00:49:23.240 Okay, so explain the history of the Shroud of Turin, of where it came from.

00:49:27.700 When do we think that it first appeared?

00:49:32.500 Absolutely.

00:49:33.220 And so let's make sure we situate this, because you bring up a really important point.

00:49:37.780 There has been a pejorative vibe towards the Shroud by anyone who isn't Catholic.

00:49:42.580 I want to remind our audience, the Catholic Church, they're the largest landowners on earth.

00:49:47.400 Did you know that?

00:49:48.180 They actually have a lot of land.

00:49:50.160 They have a lot of assets and property.

00:49:52.480 And guess what?

00:49:52.960 It turns out they have some excellent artifacts for the Christian faith.

00:49:57.280 C.S.

00:49:57.840 Lewis.

00:49:58.740 We've all heard of C.S.

00:49:59.840 Lewis.

00:50:00.080 I love Lewis.

00:50:00.760 I lived in Oxford for three years.

00:50:03.140 Glenn, I didn't know it until this year.

00:50:05.140 Jack Graham, my pastor, and I went to Oxford on an inspirational summer trip, and then we

00:50:09.860 went up and did some golfing at St. Andrews.

00:50:12.400 We literally went to Lewis's home.

00:50:15.400 And I look up on Lewis's home.

00:50:17.060 I don't know if you can see this, but for the benefit of our audience, I'm holding it

00:50:19.800 right next to my face.

00:50:21.460 I look up.

00:50:22.620 C.S.

00:50:23.100 Lewis kept a picture of the Shroud of Turin in his bedroom next to his bed where he slept.

00:50:30.060 And the reason he did that, Lewis said, I needed a reminder every morning and every evening

00:50:35.060 that my God has a face.

00:50:37.540 And so we're not talking about something weird or French here.

00:50:40.480 Even C.S.

00:50:41.180 Lewis took it seriously.

00:50:42.580 So when did it first appear on the scene?

00:50:47.560 This is what's remarkable about it.

00:50:49.540 The Shroud of Turin goes back far beyond the radiocarbon dating.

00:50:54.200 And as you point, because, I mean, some people here shroud, they're like, what is that?

00:50:56.820 As you pointed out, this is a burial garment for Jesus.

00:51:00.120 All four Gospels say that Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus, two members of the Sanhedrin,

00:51:05.220 remember if the Sanhedrin condemned a criminal to death, it was according to the Mishnah, the

00:51:10.660 Sanhedrin had to bury the condemned criminal.

00:51:13.440 What do we see in the juridical procedure of Jesus?

00:51:15.960 Two members, Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus, they take Jesus and they wrap his body in

00:51:21.940 a burial garment and they bury him in Joseph of Arimathea's tomb.

00:51:25.320 And it's not like when you think of, you know, wrapping a body, you think of like a mummy.

00:51:31.940 Right.

00:51:32.060 But this is actually like a very long tablecloth.

00:51:36.160 Right.

00:51:36.480 Very, very long.

00:51:38.560 And it's they laid it down, then put the body in and then where the head is, they took

00:51:46.240 and they pulled that the rest of the fabric down to his feet.

00:51:50.580 So it is a double image of the back, then a space, and then the front.

00:51:57.080 Exactly.

00:51:57.680 This body.

00:51:58.420 Exactly.

00:51:59.060 And that is not unusual.

00:52:00.680 If you were into Jewish burial traditions, you would do that.

00:52:03.120 And you might say, oh, Glenn, Jeremiah, there's no way that a burial shroud could last for

00:52:08.000 2000 years.

00:52:09.040 Give me a break.

00:52:09.640 Well, actually, when you are a student of history, you can see we even have a tar can

00:52:14.480 dress linen shirt.

00:52:16.120 And guess what, Glenn?

00:52:17.140 It's 3,200 years older than the Shroud of Turin.

00:52:20.840 It's 5,000 years old.

00:52:22.480 So given the right set of circumstances, linen will last forever.

00:52:26.060 So you're exactly right.

00:52:27.180 They laid and it's a 14 feet long.

00:52:30.060 It's about four feet wide.

00:52:32.220 So longer than our studio table here at Mercury Studios.

00:52:35.580 And what's fascinating is something occurred.

00:52:39.720 And I have the top five reasons why I went from skeptic.

00:52:42.800 I mean, Glenn, I was a total skeptic until I went and wrote Body of Proof, did the video

00:52:46.800 series for the Bible study, Body of Proof in Jerusalem, went to the Shroud exhibit, had

00:52:53.340 private access, looked at all the artifacts.

00:52:57.060 And then I came out with top five reasons that utterly took me from skeptic to total defender

00:53:03.200 now of the Shroud.

00:53:04.000 So let's share those.

00:53:06.340 Number five.

00:53:07.380 We're going to, let's do a countdown.

00:53:08.520 You like countdowns, Glenn?

00:53:09.660 Okay, yeah, sure.

00:53:11.420 The Shroud of Turin is the most studied artifact of the archaeological world.

00:53:18.260 There's not a close second.

00:53:19.560 And the second thing I want to say is it's also the most light about artifact in the archaeological

00:53:24.540 world.

00:53:25.340 So we're not talking.

00:53:25.980 Okay, so wait, let's start with, let's start with the first one, which is the most studied.

00:53:31.440 How do you know that and what has been done to it?

00:53:34.580 Because I've read all the peer-reviewed journals, so you don't have to, Glenn.

00:53:38.420 There's been an amazing evidential history of the Shroud of Turin.

00:53:43.580 In 1978, the STIRP team, this is the Shroud of Turin Research Project team, went to Italy.

00:53:50.500 They thought it'd be a free trip to Italy.

00:53:52.340 They were all having drinks in the lobby of the hotel, giggling that on the Catholic Church's

00:53:57.920 dime, they were going to have a free trip to Italy.

00:54:00.520 They only needed two days to prove that it was a hoax.

00:54:04.080 And guess what?

00:54:04.720 Nobody was giggling two days later.

00:54:06.900 They had approximately 120 hours to examine this very ancient Shroud, which has a very unique

00:54:13.460 history.

00:54:14.060 I mean, Hitler tried to steal it.

00:54:16.040 They had to save it from Hitler's hands during World War II.

00:54:19.500 The history of the Shroud is just remarkable.

00:54:22.340 So these were not Bible scholars.

00:54:25.100 These were not, as far as I know, there were outside of the priests that were kind of security

00:54:30.160 overlooking the Shroud while it was being looked at.

00:54:32.960 These were all weapons scientists.

00:54:35.800 Barry Schwartz, who you interviewed, and I encourage everyone to go back and watch the

00:54:39.180 Glenn Beck interview with Barry Schwartz.

00:54:40.820 He was a nominal Jew.

00:54:43.040 His only bias was he thought it was a hoax and a joke when he went there.

00:54:46.920 And now he's utterly convinced that it's not only not a hoax, because as we'll talk about

00:54:52.920 in a minute, you cannot, if it's a hoax, it's never been repeated.

00:54:57.060 He's convinced that it's an authentic burial shroud of Jesus.

00:55:00.280 So it's the most studied cross-disciplinary artifact in the world.

00:55:04.480 And in the 1970s, when Barry was part of this, as you said, they all went in as skeptics.

00:55:12.820 And I believe it came out at the time that it was possible, but the radiocarbon data was

00:55:22.600 saying, no, it's like, you know, a thousand years later or something, but something was

00:55:27.860 wrong.

00:55:28.420 And I don't remember what it was.

00:55:29.760 Maybe you do.

00:55:30.440 Barry said it was only until later when technology changed.

00:55:35.460 Right.

00:55:36.280 That they realized, oh my gosh, this is that old.

00:55:40.720 Yeah.

00:55:41.220 And so 1978, you have the original research project and they come out and what they say

00:55:45.720 is it's not a hoax.

00:55:46.880 There's no pigment.

00:55:47.880 There's no ink.

00:55:48.680 There's no dye.

00:55:49.960 The shroud has survived three fires.

00:55:52.160 It's been doused in water twice.

00:55:54.500 If there was dye, if there was paint, it would have bled out.

00:55:58.000 It would have smeared.

00:55:59.140 So it's nothing.

00:56:00.700 And essentially they came out and said, it's not a hoax.

00:56:03.100 We don't know what it is.

00:56:04.200 10 years later, 1988, and this is point number three in the countdown, which we'll get to.

00:56:10.140 The 1988 radiocarbon dating was done.

00:56:13.200 So about 10 years after that original research project.

00:56:16.860 And this is when all the headlines came out, Glenn, that said, this is a total hoax.

00:56:21.480 The carbon 14 dating dated it to the late 13th, early 14th century.

00:56:26.820 There's huge problems with that.

00:56:28.440 And we'll discuss that.

00:56:30.800 Okay.

00:56:31.300 So number four.

00:56:33.400 Number four, science today.

00:56:35.080 And this is what really arrests my attention.

00:56:37.980 Cannot explain how the image is in the cloth.

00:56:42.200 Now, Glenn, you've seen the shroud.

00:56:44.220 I mean, it's stunning.

00:56:46.700 The energy it would have taken.

00:56:48.980 I've never actually seen it in person.

00:56:52.380 I was going to go to Turin.

00:56:54.420 And I wanted to go this summer to Turin just to see it because talking to Barry Schwartz has totally changed my mind on it.

00:57:02.340 But you can't see it because it's protected.

00:57:06.740 It's under a vault.

00:57:07.480 They bring it out every few years.

00:57:09.580 It's at St. John the Baptist Cathedral in the Piedmont district of northern Italy, as you say, in Turin, Italy.

00:57:15.160 By the way, if you go to Jerusalem, there's an incredible shroud exhibit there that shows every aspect of the shroud.

00:57:20.660 But I'm talking not just scientists in general.

00:57:24.320 Rocket scientists, weapons scientists, chemical scientists cannot explain how the image is in the shroud.

00:57:32.160 If it was a forgery, if it was a hoax, it's never been able to be repeated.

00:57:36.440 I mean, this is unbelievable.

00:57:37.840 These aren't Bible theologians or commentators saying it.

00:57:40.380 They're scientists saying we cannot explain how there's an image.

00:57:43.520 And here's the fascinating thing, Glenn.

00:57:45.180 Do you know if you get closer than eight feet, the image vanishes?

00:57:48.320 You actually have to stand back from it at about eight feet to be able to fully see the image.

00:57:53.000 It's very unique.

00:57:54.940 All right.

00:57:55.500 Back in just a second with more on the Shroud of Turin this Easter week.

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00:58:06.420 Yeah.

00:58:07.160 Not me either.

00:58:08.160 No.

00:58:08.640 I have never done that.

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00:58:33.380 All right.

00:58:33.800 So there's nothing alive in that.

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00:59:31.840 So, Jeremiah, you've been studying this now.

00:59:35.840 When you look at the Shroud of Turin, I mean, it looks like a negative.

00:59:45.700 And back, you know, 2,000 years ago, if it was an artist, where was the concept of a negative?

00:59:56.640 I mean, they didn't know what a negative was.

00:59:59.240 Why would they even paint it that way?

01:00:01.540 Sometimes I say you have to have a doctorate to be this stupid to claim it's a hoax.

01:00:05.480 It just simply cannot be repeatable.

01:00:07.900 I mean, it wasn't until 1898 that the first ever photograph was taken of the Shroud where

01:00:13.720 they actually saw the photographic negative, this picture of Jesus.

01:00:17.260 And, you know, Glenn, as I mentioned yesterday, my area of scholarship is the physical bodily

01:00:21.440 resurrection of Jesus, first century execution.

01:00:23.820 When you look at the time in which they say it was a hoax, which is medieval Christianity,

01:00:28.800 the kind of Jesuses that we have in medieval Christian art are super effeminate.

01:00:33.660 They did not look like that.

01:00:34.920 Light skin, five foot eight.

01:00:36.500 What do we see in the image of the man of the Shroud?

01:00:38.720 He is 72 inches tall, six foot tall.

01:00:42.020 He weighed approximately 154 pounds, 70 kilos.

01:00:45.900 Everything about it smacks of authenticity of what we expect of Jesus of Nazareth.

01:00:51.060 Including, including the look.

01:00:53.960 Yes.

01:00:54.180 You know, Jesus was at first very young at the oldest images of Christ, you know, that

01:01:01.880 they have found in, in baptismal fonts in, in and around Jerusalem.

01:01:06.740 He's like a kid and almost looks like a David.

01:01:09.620 Right.

01:01:10.040 Right.

01:01:10.460 Then, then it goes into, uh, this effeminate Jesus.

01:01:16.160 And then eventually it goes into the Jesus that we all look at.

01:01:20.020 This guy is not, I mean, I, you know, I was, I was going to say no offense, but I'm talking

01:01:29.280 about Jesus.

01:01:29.860 So really, honestly, no offense.

01:01:32.300 He's not necessarily what we would look at today and say, that's a good looking guy.

01:01:38.400 Well, and he, he does not, he doesn't look like that, that we've ever seen.

01:01:44.060 So if we were forging it in the 14th century, Glenn, if you and I were trying to invent something

01:01:48.620 that was a hoax, we wouldn't have invented it the way he looks.

01:01:51.680 That's the whole point.

01:01:52.820 Correct.

01:01:53.260 I, the book of Isaiah said the Messiah would have no form or comeliness.

01:01:56.860 He wouldn't be the most attractive guy in the room.

01:01:59.940 Correct.

01:02:00.320 And I want to get to this Glenn, because the only reason, and I want to correct some Christian

01:02:04.040 thinkers out there, and I have some friends and colleagues.

01:02:06.900 And what I love about the blaze, and I want to say this, Glenn, you know, one thing we

01:02:10.340 learned going through COVID was the legacy media, they get ratings by counting up body

01:02:16.000 counts all the time.

01:02:17.180 It's death, death, death.

01:02:18.280 You know what I love about your show?

01:02:19.940 You give us life, Glenn.

01:02:21.620 You give us truth.

01:02:22.960 And there's so, and especially with AI, the rate, the rise of AI, where we get verified

01:02:28.480 information is going to be paramount in the future.

01:02:31.840 And that's why I watch your show, because I get to learn things like this.

01:02:34.820 And we're giving people life today.

01:02:36.420 There is an immediate connection to the truth of the shroud for our life, for all those doubters

01:02:40.920 like Thomas Didymus out there.

01:02:42.580 But for some of my Christian thinking friends out there, you saw a newspaper article in 1988

01:02:48.000 that said the radiocarbon dating showed that the shroud was a hoax.

01:02:52.800 So you just dismissed it without actually reading it.

01:02:55.360 Glenn, this is a little weird.

01:02:56.860 The British Museum, where I've been many, many times, they have great hot dogs, by the

01:03:02.480 way, in the hot dog stand right outside.

01:03:04.720 When you go in the British Museum, did you know the British Museum suppressed the raw research

01:03:10.500 data from the carbon-14 dating for 27 years?

01:03:13.640 It wasn't until an attorney, a solicitor in the UK, through a Freedom of Information Act,

01:03:19.240 demanded them to, and by the way, the person in charge of the radiocarbon dating got a faculty

01:03:25.240 seat at Oxford once they came out with it.

01:03:28.180 Stinks to me.

01:03:29.000 Wow.

01:03:30.140 Okay, all right.

01:03:30.980 So we're going to go over the radiocarbon.

01:03:32.840 And what you find on the body of Christ fits perfectly from what we now know and may

01:03:42.920 not have known when, you know, people said, oh, some artists did it.

01:03:48.640 What do you actually find the markings on the body of Christ?

01:03:52.700 From the Shroud of Turin, this Easter week, next.

01:03:56.060 Glenn Beck.

01:03:59.100 All right.

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01:05:29.800 All right, we're talking about the Shroud of Turin with the author of Audi of Proof,

01:05:35.680 Jeremiah Johnson.

01:05:37.460 Um, the, we were talking about how the carbon data, um, we found out that they said that

01:05:46.240 it was, uh, it couldn't prove anything or it was inaccurate originally, but then the truth

01:05:52.520 had been held back intentionally by the British Museum and came out.

01:05:57.340 When did that finally was, when was that revealed?

01:06:00.440 Not until 27 years after the fact of the 1980 announcement that it was a hoax.

01:06:07.260 And this is where I want to correct Christian thinkers, even in the evangelical world, have

01:06:10.880 had this pejorative view thinking that this isn't a Catholic relic.

01:06:13.840 It didn't come into the Catholic Church until 1988.

01:06:16.120 It was owned by private families.

01:06:18.720 It was actually not even given to the Catholic Church.

01:06:20.540 It was given to the Pope.

01:06:21.700 So the Pope himself is the protector of the Turin Shroud, not the Catholic Church.

01:06:26.840 There's a distinction there that makes a difference.

01:06:28.960 Secondly, it's very important that people understand.

01:06:31.200 And let us suppose, I'm right now in your studio, Glenn, for those that are watching

01:06:35.340 on Blaze TV, for those that are listening, we have a large table.

01:06:39.160 Um, the, the, the Shroud of Turin for years was an object of worship and it was laid out

01:06:42.900 like a tablecloth.

01:06:43.900 And so it would have candles on it and there are candle burns on it.

01:06:46.960 And there are repairings on the tablecloth, which we're talking about as the Shroud of

01:06:51.560 Turin.

01:06:52.040 So the Oxford laboratories and the two other laboratories, they only took one data point test and they

01:06:59.880 used one of the repaired areas of the Turin Shroud.

01:07:04.840 Oh my gosh.

01:07:05.560 I have to be very clear about this.

01:07:07.180 So they purposely, intentionally picked off one of the Turin Shroud patches.

01:07:13.320 And so the carbon 14 data is accurate about the patchwork that was done about the Shroud,

01:07:20.260 but not the origination of the Shroud.

01:07:22.660 Do you see the distinction there?

01:07:24.160 Why it's so important?

01:07:25.480 My friend, Joe Marino, he has a great weekly email.

01:07:27.880 I'd encourage you to get it.

01:07:28.900 He just wrote an 800 page book, 800 pages refuting the carbon 14 dating.

01:07:34.720 So if you're going to call the Shroud of Turin a hoax, please don't use the CR 14 dating because

01:07:41.540 it just doesn't hold water.

01:07:43.200 And is it true that they actually have found the blood type now?

01:07:47.900 We know the blood type of the man who, I mean, seems to be clearly Christ.

01:07:54.000 Not only do we have the blood, Glenn, you know, I'm a follower of Jesus.

01:07:58.780 Ephesians 1 7 says in him, in Jesus, we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness

01:08:04.920 of sins by the abundance of his grace.

01:08:07.540 And on the Turin Shroud, we have identified using some fascinating, and this is to your

01:08:14.200 point at the top of the hour, some new methodology scientifically.

01:08:18.440 We know the blood type of the crucified victim of the Shroud is type A, B blood.

01:08:24.200 Less than four, like I know my blood type, Glenn, it's A positive if you wanted to know.

01:08:28.620 The blood type of the crucified man is type A, B. Less than 4% of the world, and it's

01:08:34.280 Semitic.

01:08:35.260 Less than 4% of the world has type A, B blood.

01:08:38.740 And do you know what's kind of interesting?

01:08:40.060 This is a parenthetical note.

01:08:41.320 Do you know if you ever need to give a blood transfusion and you have type A, B blood, you

01:08:44.780 can give your plasma to any blood type?

01:08:46.620 Isn't that interesting to think about?

01:08:48.200 We have redemption through the blood of Jesus and his blood.

01:08:50.780 Even his blood actually can be transfused to heal anyone.

01:08:54.780 There's a lot we could talk about there.

01:08:57.220 I would love to see what we can do now with genetic testing of blood to see what that blood

01:09:06.440 actually says.

01:09:08.600 Also, the markings on the Shroud from the body, the crucifixion has always, I think, except

01:09:19.900 for Mel Gibson's movie, has always been downplayed on the cruelty of it.

01:09:26.960 It was unbelievable what they did to his body.

01:09:33.440 As I told you yesterday, I studied early Christology.

01:09:36.700 So I know what crucifixion was like, and it was brutal, and then what his crucifixion was

01:09:44.340 like.

01:09:45.260 And on the Shroud, you see these little, they're almost bone-shaped or barbell-shaped wounds

01:09:54.000 that were at the end of the Cat of Ninetales.

01:09:57.820 Correct.

01:09:58.120 And it just dug into his body, all over his body.

01:10:04.060 We've counted the amount of wounds on the crucified man of the Shroud, Glenn, and I have

01:10:08.900 to just pause and just say, people need to realize how much God loves them right now.

01:10:13.380 There are 372 lacerations on the crucified man from his neckline to the bottom of his calf

01:10:20.680 muscles, over his buttocks.

01:10:23.100 He was, remember, he was beaten twice.

01:10:26.540 They literally beat the hell out of Jesus at Caiaphas' house, and then they did, where

01:10:31.680 they did 39 minus one lashes, but the Romans had a field day.

01:10:36.140 They did not have a limit in the Roman praetorium when they began to beat Jesus.

01:10:41.560 And if you take 90, he would have been whipped, I think, Glenn, 93 to 100 times because that

01:10:47.280 Roman tail, that Roman whip had four fingers on it that has the barbells on it.

01:10:52.600 And that literally, they whipped him from the front to the back.

01:10:55.880 He was whipped naked, crucified naked.

01:10:58.040 And this is why, Glenn, I hope you'll encourage people to keep getting my book, Body of Proof

01:11:01.460 and the Bible Study, because I want people to understand the crucifixion of Jesus is the

01:11:06.700 best established fact of the ancient world.

01:11:09.100 And here's why you need to know that.

01:11:10.740 As you rightly pointed out, Glenn, Jesus was crucified in an unbelievably heinous way.

01:11:16.020 They put a helmet of thorns, not like a sweatband of a few pricks, a helmet of thorns on his

01:11:23.580 head.

01:11:23.940 And we actually see the blood all over the crucified man's forehead.

01:11:29.400 His jaw is broken.

01:11:31.500 His nose is broken.

01:11:33.320 There is almost like a backwards three.

01:11:36.060 If you look closely at the image of the shroud, there's like a backwards three that lights up

01:11:40.560 actually on his forehead.

01:11:42.220 That was some kind of significant blow to his forehead.

01:11:47.140 What did Jesus die of?

01:11:49.380 He died from the beating.

01:11:51.420 Remember, he was told to carry the patibulum, the crossbar, after this beating to the place

01:11:57.000 of execution.

01:11:58.440 He couldn't even do that.

01:12:00.260 He was so exhausted.

01:12:02.040 Simon of Cyrenia is chosen to carry the crossbeam.

01:12:06.280 Jesus only lives for a few hours on the cross.

01:12:10.440 He only survives a few hours.

01:12:12.400 The crucifixion begins at 9 a.m.

01:12:14.560 By 3 p.m.

01:12:15.840 He had already been dead for a few days.

01:12:18.660 Do you know on the shroud, we actually see the lance spear wound right on his torso?

01:12:24.900 There's rigor mortis setting in.

01:12:26.360 You say, I only see four fingers.

01:12:27.720 That's because his hands for several hours had been outstretched for us on a cross.

01:12:33.080 And rigor mortis, because of the metabolic rate of his heart at the time of death, rigor

01:12:38.740 mortis started early.

01:12:40.700 It started actively and immediately.

01:12:43.160 And so when I think about the cross and I think about that passage, by his stripes, I

01:12:48.220 am healed.

01:12:49.040 I take it seriously, not just on a matter of faith, Glenn, but as a matter of fact.

01:12:54.200 And I see that in Jesus, who is the crucified man of the shroud.

01:12:59.760 So when you look at the wounds in the hands, did they double nail him through the wrists

01:13:07.300 as well?

01:13:08.460 Yeah.

01:13:08.660 Thank you for that clarification, Glenn.

01:13:10.320 Very astute.

01:13:11.200 The wounds of the crucified man are in the wrists, as it should be.

01:13:14.980 We often say hands just as a shorthand way.

01:13:17.540 And they also tied him so he couldn't pull himself on the cross.

01:13:22.620 If it was through the palm of the hand, it would have just ripped off through.

01:13:26.360 Ripped right out.

01:13:26.920 But the crucified victim, again, all of it smacks of authenticity.

01:13:30.680 And this is my number one reason, okay?

01:13:33.760 All the data that you see from the Turin Shroud, I'm talking about the floral.

01:13:38.600 Do you know it had a smell to it?

01:13:40.120 It smelled like myrrh and aloe.

01:13:42.500 Why?

01:13:43.260 Juice spiced the body.

01:13:44.820 The original stirrups team said they could still smell myrrh and aloe.

01:13:49.260 I don't mean aloe vera.

01:13:50.460 I mean aloe the tree coming off the Turin Shroud when they saw it in 1978.

01:13:57.060 There's floral.

01:13:58.260 There's pollens on it that are Semitic.

01:14:00.100 I wish we had more time.

01:14:01.260 The numismatic.

01:14:02.360 There's coins.

01:14:03.220 Glenn, I have in my hand in your studio right now a temple tax Turin silver coin.

01:14:09.480 It was on this very Thursday, Glenn, that Judas betrayed Jesus Christ.

01:14:15.560 He was paid 30 of these.

01:14:17.140 These are extremely rare.

01:14:18.420 This is the temple tax coin.

01:14:20.140 Well, do you know we actually have coins on the face of the crucified man?

01:14:23.460 This is very interesting.

01:14:25.060 That's why I bring it up.

01:14:26.500 The textile, the archaeological, the hematological.

01:14:29.280 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:14:29.960 I didn't know about the coin.

01:14:31.580 I didn't know about the coins.

01:14:33.360 Yeah, two coins on his face.

01:14:35.440 Yes, right on his eyes.

01:14:37.220 Over his eyes?

01:14:37.780 Over his eyes.

01:14:39.080 And that points, and this is what I would encourage you to keep studying this hematological fabric,

01:14:44.760 historical documents.

01:14:46.180 They all point to a much earlier origin.

01:14:49.100 So if you're a skeptic, I want you to know it points to a much earlier origin than what

01:14:54.040 that CR 14 dating says.

01:14:55.800 It all exhibits verisimilitude with how you crucified someone in the first century.

01:15:00.460 And I want to make this important point, Glenn.

01:15:02.620 Crucifixion was so bad, Roman historians didn't tarry on it too long.

01:15:06.980 Do you know what historical document gives us the most detailed account of what Roman execution

01:15:12.300 was like in the first century?

01:15:14.420 Matthew, Mark, Luke, John.

01:15:17.380 Because if you were a Roman citizen, Glenn, you didn't care.

01:15:20.800 Even if you were the worst, you weren't going to get crucified.

01:15:22.920 That was just for slaves and non-Romans.

01:15:25.240 The Gospels give us the most detailed account of Roman crucifixion.

01:15:30.080 And again, they get it right.

01:15:33.160 What is your understanding of the size of the cross?

01:15:36.180 Because when I studied it, it was they were purposely smaller.

01:15:41.740 So the feet were only a couple feet off the ground because they wanted the travelers coming

01:15:48.940 in to be able to look in the eyes of the dead.

01:15:52.940 And many times, most times, they had been pecked out by birds and the bodies were left to be

01:15:58.760 ravaged by dogs.

01:16:00.120 And by the way, if you wanted to go up and get your own slap or punch in, you could too.

01:16:04.720 I mean, this was the ultimate execution.

01:16:08.200 And because of cross piety, we continue to make the cross bigger and bigger.

01:16:12.440 And this is where I want to share with people.

01:16:14.180 Jesus Christ is not on the cross anymore, ladies and gentlemen.

01:16:17.300 And I'm so thankful for that.

01:16:19.020 Jesus is not in the tomb anymore.

01:16:21.060 He is before us on the throne.

01:16:22.700 So how do you think of, I know there's no way to prove it.

01:16:27.020 And there's also, you know, this is not essential to our salvation.

01:16:31.620 There's some things that we have to believe that are essential to our salvation.

01:16:35.700 This is not one of them.

01:16:37.800 However, I happen to believe in the Shroud of Turin.

01:16:41.740 And I always look at it in a certain way on how that imprint was left.

01:16:48.780 How do you explain it in your own head?

01:16:52.860 And again, I filmed inside the very tomb of Jesus inside the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.

01:16:58.840 So I examined the burial shelf where a six-foot body would have been laid, the body of Jesus.

01:17:04.580 Okay, so I'm in that very room, Glenn.

01:17:06.880 And the way that I can explain it for busy moms and dads and individuals out there,

01:17:11.800 it's like a bolt of lightning, of energy.

01:17:15.080 It's not radiation.

01:17:16.240 It's, that's the only way in a layman's term that we don't know exactly how, but a flash.

01:17:22.940 Think of flash photography, a flash of light that was otherworldly and Jesus is dead.

01:17:29.540 And then in that moment, he's alive and it literally left a mark.

01:17:32.960 Yeah, amazing.

01:17:35.300 Jeremiah, thank you so much.

01:17:36.760 I really appreciate your time.

01:17:38.960 Jeremiah Johnston, the name of the book is Body of Proof.

01:17:43.380 And you can find him at Prestonwood Baptist Church, also Christian Thinker Society President.

01:17:50.400 Jeremiah Johnston, Body of Proof.

01:17:52.740 Thanks, Jeremiah.

01:17:53.540 Thank you, Glenn.

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01:23:31.560 Hello, America.

01:23:36.020 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:23:37.900 There's so much going on in today's world.

01:23:41.200 We just want to spend some time talking the things, talking about the things that are most

01:23:46.620 important to you.

01:23:48.680 Um, and I want to talk to you about being a man.

01:23:52.720 Uh, what does it take to become a man?

01:23:57.240 I, I'm not really sure.

01:23:58.800 And I'm sure that everybody work that works with me would say Glenn's really not the one.

01:24:03.700 I mean, unless you want to talk interior design, he's not really the one to talk to you about

01:24:08.360 being a man.

01:24:10.020 But, uh, Jason Whitlock is, he's on this amazing journey.

01:24:15.640 We're going to have him on this hour.

01:24:17.560 Stand by.

01:24:17.960 We begin in 60 seconds.

01:24:21.020 First, let me tell you about Legacy Box.

01:24:23.860 Our American legacy is being erased.

01:24:29.340 It is why Tanya and I have put almost every dollar that I make into, uh, preserving American

01:24:38.720 history.

01:24:39.420 And I've talked to you about this for a while, that we were preserving it just in case things

01:24:44.820 got really bad and our American, uh, documents would be threatened.

01:24:51.440 And already the National Archives are marking, uh, the, the Declaration of Independence and

01:24:58.040 the Constitution as triggering documents.

01:25:01.900 It's insanity what's happening.

01:25:04.000 And so we are preserving those things.

01:25:06.540 But I, I am convinced that if we lose this battle, there will be people that will not

01:25:13.100 believe the truth of what happened in America and this American experience.

01:25:19.020 They just won't believe it.

01:25:21.040 Look at airplanes are falling out of the skies.

01:25:23.740 You know, if, if these people continue to destroy truth, who's going to believe that you had

01:25:32.120 airplanes that you could fly around or we went to the moon or that we had abundance like

01:25:39.120 we, we have had your pictures of your family at picnics and fourth of July's and, and all

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01:25:51.300 11 and everybody was out and the food was on the table.

01:25:55.020 Those things prove the truth about America and what America was really about.

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01:26:43.680 Jason Whitlock is one of my favorite people and somebody that I really, truly admire and I think is a great broadcaster and not necessarily for the, the show or his opinion or anything else.

01:26:59.560 But I think he's a great broadcaster because he is a man searching for truth and that is the most exciting part of people's lives.

01:27:09.800 And it'll be the part of your life that when you do, if you've already done it, you remember it this way.

01:27:16.460 If you haven't done it, you will remember when you pushed yourself to figure out what you truly believe.

01:27:24.080 And I think Jason is in that portion of his life in many areas and most people don't share that.

01:27:33.340 And he shares it every day.

01:27:35.340 He is the Blaze TV host of Fearless, Jason Whitlock.

01:27:40.040 Hello, Jason.

01:27:40.640 How are you?

01:27:41.680 Glenn, awesome introduction.

01:27:43.280 I appreciate that.

01:27:44.160 Thank you.

01:27:44.860 You bet.

01:27:45.280 And I want to talk to you about some of the things that you're going through right now and the things that you're discovering and things that you're doing this summer.

01:27:53.960 I'm going to be joining you on one of your events that I think is just so worthwhile.

01:27:58.360 But first, can I take you to the news that I have not been following and I don't know if this is important or not.

01:28:07.280 P. Diddy.

01:28:08.120 I don't know what the hell is going on with him, but I'm hearing talk like he is the new Jeffrey Epstein.

01:28:13.860 Can you tell me this story?

01:28:16.460 Yeah, let me tell you why it's important for you and your audience.

01:28:21.100 And we unpacked this last week on my show, trying to get a broader perspective on what's going on with Diddy.

01:28:28.200 And it's about the music industry and it's about the push for nihilism and how they have manipulated our entire American culture to be more nihilistic.

01:28:44.800 And they've done it with music and hip hop is at the forefront of that.

01:28:48.740 And so Diddy is someone of marginal talent who's been installed and who has been allowed to use the music industry to sexually compromise young people, celebrities, other entertainers, politicians or whatever.

01:29:10.340 But it's like this whole part of the realization and understanding we have to come to is like everything in culture.

01:29:18.200 Tucker Carlson talked about this a couple of weeks ago about just like architecture and how it's not the same as it used to be.

01:29:25.560 And so in all the arts, they're trying to push us towards a nihilistic worldview.

01:29:32.160 And they've done that with hip hop.

01:29:33.900 And P. Diddy is one of the faces and most powerful people in hip hop.

01:29:39.580 But again, as I expounded on, it's not just Diddy.

01:29:44.840 It's like BlackRock and Vanguard.

01:29:47.000 They actually own the music industry and control the music industry.

01:29:52.340 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:29:54.680 The investment houses of BlackRock and Vanguard, do they own the music industry?

01:30:00.780 Absolutely.

01:30:01.880 From Sony Music Group to every, they're the most invested in the music industry.

01:30:06.900 They're the most invested through Viacom.

01:30:08.720 They own BET, MTV, VH1.

01:30:12.880 They're in control of the music industry.

01:30:15.960 And they also own the majority, the overwhelming majority of stock in the private prison industry.

01:30:24.840 I think the stock name is called CXW now.

01:30:28.840 It's called Core Civic.

01:30:30.420 It used to be called Corrections Corporations of America.

01:30:34.420 And then they transitioned the name.

01:30:36.340 And so this whole hip hop deal was about creating a culture where like prison is a rite of passage and corruption and criminality is just built into the system.

01:30:50.060 And it feeds the prison system, the private prison industry, and it's exploded.

01:30:55.520 But more than anything, it's promoted a nihilistic view and a view that life really has no meaning and it's disconnected us from our moral principles and religious principles.

01:31:10.640 That's what Diddy is the face of, and that's why I'm glad he's getting his comeuppance.

01:31:15.220 And I hope that they don't do a cover-up and not expose everyone involved because it's not just hip hop.

01:31:25.220 Music has been headed this direction and pushing the nihilistic direction for a long time.

01:31:31.320 And this needs to be discussed and exposed.

01:31:34.100 This isn't limited to black kids or the urban inner city.

01:31:38.320 The way they've pushed hip hop and made it the most popular music in the world, and they've pushed it in sports and pushed it everywhere, it's affecting everyone.

01:31:49.000 I have to tell you, they're doing it now to the last bastion of decency in entertainment, and that is in Nashville, country music.

01:32:00.160 It is going woke and ugly.

01:32:03.260 And, you know, they have just infested everything, and they're tearing it apart.

01:32:13.300 I mean, you listen to popular music now.

01:32:16.240 I mean, imagine the last time we went through this, you know, revolution kind of spirit with Marxism.

01:32:21.860 It's back in the 60s.

01:32:23.080 And you had artists that were singing really uplifting stuff.

01:32:27.700 Some of it was garbage, but some of it just, it was an empowering movement.

01:32:32.620 You listen to music now, and it is disgusting.

01:32:37.160 It is all about, I mean, I challenge you to listen to especially hip hop and some popular music of that genre.

01:32:47.260 And I challenge you to find a song that isn't talking about somebody's butt or putting something in somebody's butt.

01:32:55.980 It's incredibly degrading.

01:32:58.620 Glenn, for someone like myself who's 56 and who grew up on R&B music, R&B music used to be a lot of romantic love songs.

01:33:10.160 Yeah, yeah.

01:33:10.760 You can't find, in R&B or hip hop, love is not remotely on the table.

01:33:17.780 No.

01:33:18.160 I mean, it just, you go through the Billboard Top 100, love, anything about love, not remotely on the table.

01:33:26.800 If you want to listen to music that promotes love between a man and a woman, you've got to go listen to music made in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.

01:33:36.220 It's just disappeared.

01:33:37.260 This is intentional.

01:33:38.660 They've just removed love from the culture.

01:33:42.360 So, Jason, what is Diddy accused of doing?

01:33:49.520 You know, drugging, raping young girls and young men, sexually compromising and leveraging the entertainers that work for him,

01:34:03.220 employing a cleanup man named Fahid Muhammad, who, if you're familiar with the TV show Ray Donovan, if you ever watched that on Showtime,

01:34:14.220 this guy would go up and clean up the crimes that Diddy and or any of his entertainers were involved in.

01:34:20.940 And there's these two lawsuits, one that he settled, but the second one with this Rodney Jones that he hasn't settled.

01:34:27.200 There's allegations of shootings and murders and things like that that have been cleaned up by this guy.

01:34:34.100 How does that happen?

01:34:36.220 How does that happen?

01:34:37.960 It's not my world, so I would only be speculating.

01:34:40.580 But, yeah, these are the types of allegations that have been going on.

01:34:48.320 And, again, Diddy sexually compromising, forcing his entertainers into having sex with him, with men, with women,

01:34:58.400 and then using his house and cameras everywhere in his house.

01:35:02.880 So when he would throw these parties, if there were celebrities or politicians or prominent entertainers there,

01:35:09.180 he'd have everything recorded, and so those people would be compromised.

01:35:14.240 And so, yeah, they're calling him the Jeffrey Epstein of the music industry, and I don't think it's a bad label.

01:35:22.960 But, again, Diddy comes from a compromised background.

01:35:26.880 His father was a drug dealer who, in the 70s, who got busted and, I think, snitched on some other drug dealers

01:35:36.020 and then got murdered when Diddy was just three years old.

01:35:40.000 And so what the rap music world really, where they fish for talent, is in all these broken, compromised, dysfunctional homes.

01:35:51.040 And so Diddy likely sexually abused when he was a child and, obviously, father murdered, didn't grow up in an ideal environment.

01:36:02.100 He'll do anything for money.

01:36:04.260 And that's why he gets installed and promoted and put in a position of power because he's easily controlled,

01:36:11.380 because he comes from a background where the values just were instilled.

01:36:16.180 And, again, this whole nihilistic view of the world and all the breakdown of the nuclear family that they've pushed,

01:36:24.960 they're destroying the family structure so that our kids are more vulnerable

01:36:29.180 and will be more easily seduced into wickedness and a lack of morality.

01:36:35.160 So last question, and then I've got to take a quick break and then come back because I want to talk to you about your event.

01:36:39.660 But why now? Why has he gotten away with this for so long and now it's just coming out?

01:36:48.120 That's a great question, Glenn.

01:36:50.800 And I would, my only explanation at this point is that I think we're in that time where,

01:36:59.440 so my biggest explanation is,

01:37:02.480 Yeah, my biggest explanation is that I don't think we fully recognize all the dominoes that Trump knocked over.

01:37:11.700 Yeah.

01:37:11.940 Just by saying fake news and making us, like, willing to question everything.

01:37:18.220 Yes.

01:37:18.420 And what Trump has done is legitimize the so-called conspiracy theorists.

01:37:22.680 So now the public, I think, is more ready for the truth and people are, you know, filing lawsuits and because there's independent media

01:37:33.700 and there's those of us that have had the scales taken off our eyes, willing to talk about it and expose it.

01:37:39.860 But it's, again, I don't want to make too much of Trump, but he's really consequential in giving all of us the courage to say,

01:37:49.420 man, we've got to look at things in an honest fashion.

01:37:53.200 Yeah.

01:37:53.480 All right.

01:37:53.800 Back with Jason Whitlock here in just a second.

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01:39:29.340 So Jason is doing his second year of roll call.

01:39:34.340 He's doing a roll call, a call to all men to step into the role of men and, you know, learn how to be a man and what that means in today's world.

01:39:46.180 It doesn't mean an alpha male.

01:39:47.740 It means somebody who understands the righteous dominion that a man has and the important role that they play along with women and their righteous dominion.

01:40:05.480 And so this is happening where, again, in Nashville, Jason?

01:40:12.660 Here in Nashville, Friday, May 31st and Saturday, June 1st, Glenn, my vision on this is I'm trying to create an event where men come together across our little petty differences, skin color.

01:40:32.220 Some of us may be of different faith denominations, but we're all believers in God, and we all have to understand, and this is why I'm so pleased that you're coming to speak, is because this year we're focusing on, like, trying to tell men, like, hey, there's sacrifices we're going to have to make if we want to restore this country.

01:40:54.680 If we want to have a world that's better for our kids than what we found it.

01:41:02.640 And so I don't think anybody that I know in the media space understands the sacrifices that were made to make this country great, better than you.

01:41:12.340 And if we're not reminded, like, that people made incredible sacrifices for us to enjoy this freedom, and that means we have to make some sacrifices to protect it, restore it.

01:41:27.040 And so that's what I want you to talk about, give us a bit of a historical perspective on it.

01:41:32.300 Because I think we've lost the willingness to sacrifice.

01:41:36.580 I think too many of us have been enjoying what we were given rather than protecting what we're giving.

01:41:44.120 And so whether it comes to some financial sacrifices, a smaller home, or just the willingness to stand on truth and speak out and deal with the consequences,

01:41:56.720 and quit worrying about someone calling you racist, or an Uncle Tom, or a homophobe, or this or that, stand on truth, be willing to make that sacrifice to improve this culture.

01:42:09.580 Well, that is the first time I've heard, you know, because I agreed to do this, but I hadn't talked to you about what you want me to speak on.

01:42:14.760 I will give you a rip-roaring talk on sacrifice and what it has taken to get here and what our responsibility is now.

01:42:24.560 I can't wait for that.

01:42:26.780 And I'm speaking on Saturday, June 1st, I believe, right?

01:42:31.280 Yeah.

01:42:32.000 Let me throw in one other thing, too, Glenn, I forgot to mention.

01:42:35.840 I partnered this year in moving forward with John Rich, the country music star.

01:42:41.060 Oh, I love him.

01:42:41.820 Many people know John, big and rich, but he's made some incredible music, gospel music, Christian music.

01:42:48.640 And so the idea is that music and food are things that we can all come together on without worrying about, you know, our differences.

01:43:01.000 There are two things that really bring us together.

01:43:03.760 It's like they've ruined sports, and now that divides us as well.

01:43:07.500 But everybody loves good music.

01:43:10.260 Everybody loves good food.

01:43:11.740 And we're inviting everybody that loves God to come join us.

01:43:16.880 Let's get together.

01:43:17.880 Let's prove everybody wrong, and let's prove the other side wrong.

01:43:21.600 That as men, we can come together, put our differences aside, celebrate God, listen to some good music, hear some inspiring speeches, and eat and enjoy Nashville.

01:43:32.600 I think it's going to be powerful.

01:43:34.520 All right.

01:43:34.780 So you can get your tickets now.

01:43:36.420 Well, there is a special price, an early bird price on them right now, but that ends this weekend, midnight this Sunday.

01:43:44.180 You can get your tickets.

01:43:46.140 Bring your son.

01:43:48.460 Bring your friends.

01:43:49.960 It is a weekend for men to get together and step into their roles as men.

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01:44:04.980 Please go and find that now.

01:44:09.420 And I don't have the address.

01:44:10.960 Where do you buy those tickets, Jason?

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01:44:17.140 Got it.

01:44:17.580 Thank you.

01:44:18.080 Thank you.

01:44:18.460 Appreciate it.

01:44:19.320 All right.

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01:45:48.980 These people that tell us that, you know, we should destroy our family, that we, there is no redemption for white people.

01:45:57.980 Um, you know, that, that you have to listen to them because they really care about the children, which are now being mutilated, uh, in, uh, in horrific, horrific surgeries.

01:46:12.200 You want to talk about being on the wrong side of history.

01:46:15.320 That's one.

01:46:17.000 Um, but I want to talk to you about Oakland.

01:46:19.320 I've told you before about how bad things are in Oakland, California right now.

01:46:25.120 Um, I told you just earlier this week about a Taco Bell that was forced to close.

01:46:30.760 Another one had to switch to a drive-thru with cashless payments only because they were, they were coming in and robbing the store.

01:46:41.060 Then, um, the same store, when they put their cash into a safe at night, the safe, somebody broke in, broke a window, put a chain around the safe and just pulled it through a wall and stole.

01:46:54.580 Um, and then they decided that they were just going to do cashless payments and what has happened since now they're going in and robbing the customers.

01:47:03.660 Okay.

01:47:04.240 And nobody's stopping anything.

01:47:06.040 Nobody's doing anything.

01:47:07.680 Another fast food chain now been hit by the crime surge is in and out.

01:47:11.680 The, uh, chief operations officer said, quote, despite taking repeated steps to create safer conditions, our customers and associates are regularly victimized.

01:47:23.680 By car break-ins, property damage, theft, and armed robbery.

01:47:29.440 Now, this is, this, this particular in and out that he's talking about sits within a square mile of several gas stations.

01:47:36.800 And cops say those gas stations are targets of a dozen violent crimes a day, a day.

01:47:47.600 So now that I've set the scene on what a hell hole they've turned Oakland, California into, let me tell you this.

01:47:56.080 And remember, these are the people that are going to show us utopia.

01:48:00.860 A wheelchair-bound centurion has been threatened with a hefty fine from Oakland officials after thugs graffitied his home and he was unable to remove the paint.

01:48:18.800 This is, this is, this is, this is the guy's name is Victor Silva Sr.

01:48:24.540 He is apparently, because he's in Oakland, is a frequent target of vandalism in his city of Oakland.

01:48:33.160 He's 102 years old.

01:48:36.500 he has lived worked and paid taxes in oakland for over 80 years and the city of oakland now

01:48:45.180 is fining him eleven hundred dollars because this hundred two-year-old has not painted over

01:48:53.000 the graffiti put on his own house so he was just given a citation and they demanded that the paint

01:49:02.260 had to be removed by tuesday the 19th and if it's not an additional fine would be added for every

01:49:09.080 failed inspection in the future so they're going to just find this guy out of existence by the way

01:49:15.380 he's about to have a birthday and turn 103 and they're hassling him we have the video of it

01:49:24.860 sarah yeah wheelchair bound oakland born 102 years old victor silva senior often finds graffiti painted

01:49:36.100 onto his back fence of his oakland home where he's lived and paid taxes for 80 years earlier this

01:49:42.280 month he got a violation citation from the city of oakland to remove it by tuesday the 19th or face

01:49:48.360 an eleven hundred dollar fine plus an additional twelve hundred seventy seven dollars for each failed

01:49:54.320 re-inspection okay stop this is absolutely insane this is insane so you know who had to go over to

01:50:03.180 the house and paint it was his son who is 70 years old his son has to paint the graffiti every time it

01:50:13.560 pops up on the house and it pops up on the house daily daily and he is being fined because he can't keep up

01:50:25.060 with it daily now i want to tell you how much this progressive government of oakland loves her people

01:50:38.940 there is a um uh utility box you know those things they're on the they're on the uh you know

01:50:49.620 telephone poles their giant utility box or they're on the corner of the street and they have the big

01:50:55.400 handle you open it up and all the utilities are there that's city property that is vandalized

01:51:02.820 every day as well but they're not covering the paint is the city finding itself for the graffiti on the

01:51:15.140 things that it owns of course not of course not just this hundred and three year old man who's lived in

01:51:26.500 the city and you know what would happen in in any normal city in america in any normal city in america

01:51:33.680 uh neighbors would stand up and say this is this is an outrage and they would help paint that as much

01:51:44.040 as they could but they wouldn't just paint it and live by they would then go to the city and they would

01:51:50.280 go to the press and they would say enough is enough until the city can keep up with the crime and the

01:51:59.060 city can keep up with the the box right there down the block from his house that is covered in graffiti

01:52:06.860 until they have to do it no leave this man alone leave him alone where where is the decency and the

01:52:18.800 willingness to stand up as a community

01:52:20.900 this the governments do not care about individuals and i gotta tell you i gave a speech last night in

01:52:33.180 boise idaho to the republicans and all these all these politicians that are in washington the hippie

01:52:43.520 generation go away you've had your turn you smoked all the dope you wanted to smoke in the 60s

01:52:53.020 you destroyed things in the 1960s and then you've become the monster you said you could never trust

01:53:03.160 you are the man times two because you're a very very very very old man now or woman and you still

01:53:12.820 have your claws into everything and you're you are stealing from the youth

01:53:18.540 all these people who are in that hippie era it is time for you to let go time for you to let go

01:53:32.160 now you could be that old and fully like like uh dershowitz he's fully in charge of his faculties

01:53:41.140 he's retired a long time ago but he's still involved because he's fighting for freedom and truth

01:53:50.300 you're fighting for freedom and truth that's good if you are doing nothing but enriching yourself

01:53:56.960 it's disgusting and despicable

01:53:59.360 all of these all of these all of these rhino republicans

01:54:06.680 i gotta tell you your day is over it is over you think you still have power that you're going to

01:54:18.580 somehow or another magically pull a rabbit out of your hat and not be a pariah in politics but you're

01:54:24.940 going to be a pariah in politics i guarantee it your time is over a new generation is coming in

01:54:32.500 and more and more of the generation that's coming in knows why they serve and who they serve

01:54:40.020 they serve the people not themselves not the special interest not the party they serve the people

01:54:49.520 and why and how do they serve the constitution of the united states of america the declaration of

01:54:58.400 independence and the bill of rights i am so sick of being called a an extremist by a group of people

01:55:09.340 that are embracing corruption and marxism and and telling a hundred and three year old man

01:55:16.440 you got to do what we don't even do go screw yourself

01:55:21.680 if i'm the extremist then the world is completely upside down if we're the ones that are anti-government

01:55:35.480 but we're the ones who want a restoration of the rule of law we want criminals to go to jail

01:55:43.560 and those criminals can be from the border or in the highest offices of land the land

01:55:50.060 i want blind justice i want the constitution and the bill of rights protected and enforced

01:56:00.120 that doesn't make me a an extremist that makes me an american and if you want to define those people

01:56:11.540 that believe in the ten commandments and the bill of rights and the constitution and the rule of law

01:56:17.280 you want to call us extremist you go ahead but i am never going to shut up and say no you

01:56:27.380 you are the extremist you've turned the world inside out you have made good evil and evil good

01:56:36.040 i'm not going to shut up nor should you you should not have fear you are the one who will be the winner

01:56:45.900 in history you will be the one that will we're living in a time right now you might be working

01:56:55.200 with somebody who someday they're going to build a statue long after we're all dead they'll build a

01:57:00.640 statue of because that person stood up and did something miraculous heroic courageous we're not in those

01:57:11.640 days yet but we are quickly approaching them

01:57:14.540 we're the simple act of standing up and saying no that's not true

01:57:24.020 when that is a true act of courage you are in the portions of history where they eventually build

01:57:34.560 statues to those people

01:57:36.420 it's disgusting you know these people don't care about the poor they care about the rich every time

01:57:52.160 they say the rich have to pay their fair share well a state the percentage of a fair share okay state

01:58:00.480 the percentage and we can discuss that but you won't and when you go after the so-called rich

01:58:08.200 you never go after the rich ever ever you go after the entrepreneurs you go after people who have

01:58:17.420 built something you don't go after the really rich george soros do you think he's paying a lot of taxes

01:58:23.880 no because they'll never change the laws that force men like him to pay taxes he'll pay his income tax

01:58:35.060 but he's not making income anymore and you say look at he's not paying income tax he's paying less than

01:58:43.700 that secretary of course he is because that's the way you have designed it and so what do you do

01:58:50.700 we're going to raise the income tax on the rich they won't pay an income tax you're just hurting the

01:59:00.320 people who are building themselves and their families and building new businesses

01:59:05.680 sick of it sick of it sick of it learn the truth and then spread the truth and do it without fear

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02:01:21.060 sam brankman freed has been sentenced some places are reporting it as 20 years the way i'm reading it

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