The Glenn Beck Program - July 19, 2024


Why the Left Loses ALL REASON Concerning Trump | Guests: Kathie Lee Gifford & Thomas Blackshear | 7⧸19⧸24


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 4 minutes

Words per Minute

160.55045

Word Count

19,931

Sentence Count

1,096

Misogynist Sentences

19

Hate Speech Sentences

14


Summary


Transcript

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00:01:49.920 Well, hello America and welcome to Friday.
00:01:52.820 And what a Friday broadcast we have for you today.
00:01:56.740 We're going to go over everything about the election,
00:02:00.520 everything about Donald Trump's speech last night,
00:02:04.440 and my theory on why he only mentioned Joe Biden one time.
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00:03:28.420 So last night, the president came out to speak, Donald Trump, at the convention.
00:03:37.800 And we haven't had a chance to talk.
00:03:40.160 Thank you, Stu and Pat, for filling in for me the last couple of days.
00:03:43.720 I had to have some surgery on kidney stones, which, oh, man, that's a fun ride.
00:03:55.440 So thanks for filling in.
00:03:59.560 But I've been watching the convention this week, and it is the best convention I have seen.
00:04:07.180 And I think it was better than the Reagan conventions, and those were pretty good.
00:04:12.920 This had everything you needed in the Republican convention.
00:04:19.840 It had all of the right people speaking, I thought, all the way through the week.
00:04:25.280 If people spent the time and watched it, actually listened to it,
00:04:29.880 they saw a very different party than what they have ever seen before, at least I did.
00:04:35.040 And last night, a very, very different Donald Trump.
00:04:39.720 I've never seen him like this.
00:04:42.300 I've never heard him speak this way.
00:04:44.620 I've never seen him take the stage the way he did.
00:04:49.800 He was humbled.
00:04:53.080 And I think, you know, he pushed back on the crowd, or the crowd pushed back on him.
00:04:57.560 Halfway through the speech, he said, you know, I was not supposed to be here tonight.
00:05:01.700 I'm not supposed to be here.
00:05:03.080 And they started chanting, yes, you were, yes, you were.
00:05:07.060 And he said, no, I wasn't.
00:05:10.560 An assassin wanted me gone, and I wasn't supposed to address you today.
00:05:16.980 But God saved my life.
00:05:18.980 And it was not a moment of boasting.
00:05:23.020 It was a moment, I thought, of clarity.
00:05:25.220 Now, there's something else that happened that I haven't heard a lot of people talk about.
00:05:30.320 In fact, I haven't heard anybody talk about this yet.
00:05:32.500 And I think it's very, very telling.
00:05:35.240 Donald Trump has kind of shifted gears into this zone of,
00:05:44.240 I know what I know, I know what I feel, and I know who the other side is.
00:05:51.460 And they're dismissed.
00:05:54.380 He's not fighting them like he was before.
00:05:58.900 Now, that doesn't mean that he's not fighting.
00:06:01.480 The one thing about Donald Trump is he's a fighter.
00:06:03.440 But it's almost as if he feels that the outcome is already there.
00:06:10.640 And he doesn't need to push the envelope anymore.
00:06:16.560 He just needs to say the truth.
00:06:19.720 And so he came out quiet, humbled.
00:06:23.420 He did about 30 minutes of just riveting material that he wrote himself.
00:06:29.660 He tore up the speech, wrote this speech himself, which is also not Donald Trump.
00:06:34.840 He usually will ad-lib.
00:06:36.900 He doesn't usually write his own material.
00:06:41.560 But he wrote the first 20 minutes and probably the last 20 minutes as well.
00:06:46.840 The rest of it was kind of a stump speech.
00:06:49.140 But he came out humbled and told the story of the assassination.
00:06:59.660 He said at one point Joe Biden's name.
00:07:05.560 And at one point when he said it, he said, I'm only going to say this once.
00:07:10.640 And he talked about telling the story of the assassination and said, it's too painful, so I won't tell this story again.
00:07:17.880 You'll hear it the first and last time from me tonight.
00:07:21.900 When he brought up Joe Biden, do you remember the context, Stu, on when he first brought up Joe Biden and then apologized and said, I'm not going to say his name anymore?
00:07:34.880 Yeah, he was talking about the 10 worst presidents of all time and how all of them added up together wouldn't get to Joe Biden.
00:07:41.120 And that's when he said his name.
00:07:42.040 Right, right.
00:07:43.720 And he said, you know, I didn't want it to be unclear who that president was that was worse than the 10 worst combined.
00:07:53.900 He said, but I'm not going to mention his name anymore.
00:07:57.780 And to me, that may be lowering the temperature a little bit.
00:08:03.040 I think that's one way to read it, but I think more importantly, I think he strategically is now looking at the fact that Joe Biden's not going to be the nominee.
00:08:17.320 I just don't believe he's going to be the nominee.
00:08:20.100 And it's only a matter of time.
00:08:22.940 And Donald Trump, why waste his hour of television, or in his case, 90 minutes of television, making a case against a guy who's not going to be running?
00:08:33.700 And that's why he kept saying they, they made these things.
00:08:38.780 This administration did this and did not say Donald Trump or did not say Joe Biden and did not say Kamala Harris.
00:08:46.580 Now that the Kamala Harris thing, um, I think is because he just doesn't know if Kamala is the one running and, and why, why look back at the people who are so far behind you, uh, at this particular point.
00:09:01.860 Um, but the, the hopeful side of me says that he didn't mention Kamala because he knows it's going to be Michelle Obama.
00:09:09.600 And I only say hopeful because Stu will owe me, I think it's four grand, isn't it?
00:09:15.120 Three. It's definitely three. It's a hundred percent three, three.
00:09:19.860 And even that with inflation, I don't even know if we can really count three.
00:09:24.000 I think we should probably lower. I don't know. Well, we'll talk about that.
00:09:27.000 Five. It should be five. Yeah. Uh, because three just isn't what it was, you know, six months ago when we made this bet.
00:09:34.680 I will say, thank God for bite inflation, because by the time I paid this bet off, it will be worth nothing.
00:09:40.380 $3,000 will be like what a loaf of bread is.
00:09:42.920 We won't be able to buy a sandwich. No.
00:09:45.120 We won't. We won't. Uh, all right. So, uh, there's a couple of, a couple of stories here that explain the speech.
00:09:53.420 The first one is the New York times and the New York times, Trump in RNC speech struggles to turn page on the past.
00:10:02.420 Well, it's a little difficult, you know, when the past involved assassination attempts, um, you know,
00:10:08.780 a little difficult there. Donald, uh, J. Trump has been a man long undone by himself.
00:10:16.000 He imperiled his presidency and political campaigns with personal grudges, impulsiveness, and an appetite for authoritarianism.
00:10:23.640 Uh, you know, it's really strange, uh, how they keep seeing authoritarianism, uh, in Donald Trump when he's not done anything authoritarian.
00:10:33.600 Uh, I mean, he might say, you know, we should go after the press and take away their license until he's reminded they don't have a license.
00:10:41.800 And, uh, and he wasn't serious in the first place. Lock her up until he wasn't serious in the first place.
00:10:49.880 Um, I can't find the authoritarian streak in him myself on anything that he's actually done.
00:10:56.140 Uh, and then they say, also, he's caused himself problems for his casual approach to the rule of law.
00:11:02.700 Now, Stu, out of he who shall not be named and Donald Trump, which one has the casual approach to the rule of law?
00:11:14.440 I don't know. Should we go over the latest court to overturn his student loan debacle?
00:11:20.500 I know. I know. I read that this morning in the New York Times after reading the casual approach to the rule of law.
00:11:29.000 And then, you know, the next story is, oh, uh, another court said, you can't do that with student loans.
00:11:36.340 He just keeps trying to go around the law. Yeah. Over and over again.
00:11:40.180 The court overturned his latest attempt at student loans.
00:11:43.280 The same day he announced another attempt for, I think it was $1.5 billion of student loan relief.
00:11:50.580 I mean, he is addicted to giving away money to these people. It's incredible.
00:11:54.360 Uh, his, uh, unwillingness to accept electoral defeat and his actions that have resulted in $83 million in penalties,
00:12:05.640 nearly three dozen felony convictions and additional legal trouble ahead.
00:12:10.040 I mean, that's how they start. Uh, and I mean, you've got to be, I mean, you're just under the spell of witchcraft.
00:12:18.740 Uh, if, if you buy into any of that, but on Thursday night with his right ear, still bandage five days after he was wounded by a would-be assassins bullet.
00:12:31.820 Okay. Can we talk about that for a second, Stu?
00:12:34.280 Sure.
00:12:37.500 The bandage, what they're trying to say here is he didn't need the bandage.
00:12:42.120 Do you think he needed the bandage still?
00:12:46.780 Um, yes. My guess is that, uh, his ear looks pretty funky right now and he doesn't necessarily want to walk out on stage with it looking that way.
00:12:56.100 Yeah. I was actually hoping that he would take off the bandage because I think his ear probably looks worse.
00:13:02.500 He lost the top of his ear and, you know, that's kind of a, you know, you have to be, I mean, there's, there's conspiracies throwing around.
00:13:11.500 And now a third of Democrats believe that he set this up with the, uh, with the secret service.
00:13:18.800 What to have his ear blown off.
00:13:21.800 I mean, how delusional do you have to be?
00:13:24.980 First of all, he's not the guy who's got the in with the secret service and, you know, the spy agencies and everything else.
00:13:33.380 It, the conspiracy doesn't, it falls apart pretty quickly, you know, uh, it's not rational by any means.
00:13:41.680 And, and it's, this is something Glenn, you see in polling every single time.
00:13:45.560 If there is a conspiracy theory about your political opponent, about a third of people will believe it no matter what it is.
00:13:53.380 That is like, now you can get higher than that.
00:13:55.760 The Democrats, about 50% of them believed 9-11 was an inside job when George W. Bush was president.
00:14:01.620 You can find numbers that get higher, but like the baseline number for a conspiracy theory against your political opponent is about a third.
00:14:08.960 It just, it just is like, it's people, a lot of people just taking the position they think hurts their opponent more than them actually believing it.
00:14:16.760 I hope, but there are a lot of people, I mean, Joy Reid is on television every single day talking about this stuff.
00:14:25.180 I mean, they threw poor Joe Scarborough off the air.
00:14:28.100 What did they think this guy was going to say?
00:14:30.000 I mean, what do they think of Joe Scarborough if they leave Joy Reid on the air?
00:14:35.300 I never thought of it that way.
00:14:40.800 That's amazing.
00:14:41.160 You're exactly right.
00:14:42.860 Yeah.
00:14:43.220 So here, let me just switch gears here.
00:14:45.280 Joy Reid posted a video of herself working through a bizarre conspiracy theory suggesting that the Secret Service helped Donald Trump to create the defiant photo image from the shooting.
00:14:59.440 She noted the Biden campaign released a lot of detailed medical information about his condition within minutes of the announcement that he had contracted COVID-19 again.
00:15:10.120 But when it comes to what happened on Saturday with former President Donald Trump, this assassination attempt, we know almost nothing about his medical condition.
00:15:21.520 Bum, bum, bum.
00:15:24.420 How come no one has any information about this wound?
00:15:28.180 We still don't know for sure whether Donald Trump was hit by a bullet or whether he was hit by glass fragments, whether he was hit by shrapnel.
00:15:37.260 We don't have any of those details.
00:15:38.880 Glass fragments?
00:15:42.000 Where were the glass fragments from?
00:15:44.800 Was that the teleprompter that they say was hit?
00:15:47.720 There was an initial report.
00:15:49.460 I don't remember who reported it, but there was a report that it was glass fragments, and it wasn't even a liberal reporter.
00:15:55.820 I remember reading it and being like, what?
00:15:57.600 Like, what are you talking about?
00:15:58.560 And then about five minutes later, you could see pictures of it where both of the teleprompters are still fully intact.
00:16:03.560 I mean, it was a crazy theory that was debunked immediately, but people like Joy Reid, who are impossibly stupid, continue to believe it.
00:16:12.260 And we have a picture, unlike anything I've ever seen, a picture of the bullet in flight as it's about to hit his head.
00:16:23.260 I mean, it's incredible.
00:16:25.600 Yeah, I think it's actually just...
00:16:26.900 It's been a fly, a really big mosquito.
00:16:29.080 We don't know.
00:16:29.860 We don't know.
00:16:30.560 Yeah, I think the picture is just after it passes his head.
00:16:33.600 But yes, I mean, it is about as...
00:16:36.520 I mean, it's one of the most incredible photos ever taken, and the photographer who took it has basically the most impossible photo you can take,
00:16:45.280 and it's still not the iconic photo of the incident, which is like kind of a...
00:16:50.040 I mean, you go through the...
00:16:50.760 You caught a bullet in your picture, and still, like, somebody else got the picture of him standing up with his fist up with the blood streaming down his face,
00:16:59.420 which is still the iconic photo of that day.
00:17:02.520 But yeah, I mean, it is so stupid.
00:17:04.540 They believe everything.
00:17:05.580 They believe that, you know, the bandage is fake, that he didn't actually get injured.
00:17:11.760 Like, I don't know.
00:17:12.380 I thought it was glass that hit him.
00:17:13.840 Now he didn't get injured at all.
00:17:15.200 It doesn't need the bandage.
00:17:17.180 I mean, it's just everything they come up with is dumber and dumber.
00:17:21.600 They're just crazy.
00:17:23.280 Really, truly crazy about him.
00:17:27.180 It's just like they lose all reason.
00:17:30.140 And for Joy Reid to be on the air on MSNBC is remarkable.
00:17:36.280 And not because they should fire her because of her points of view.
00:17:38.760 I don't believe in that.
00:17:39.820 Just because she's dumb as a box of rocks, man.
00:17:43.440 She's crazy.
00:17:45.000 She is crazy.
00:17:46.420 To be fair, I don't think Joy Reid has lost all reason.
00:17:49.220 She just didn't have it at any point.
00:17:51.500 So it's impossible to lose for her in particular.
00:17:54.560 All right.
00:17:55.140 Okay.
00:17:55.700 All right.
00:17:56.080 How about Alex Wagner?
00:17:57.700 I don't know if you heard the latest from her on MSNBC.
00:18:02.260 But this was kind of bizarre as well, what this theory is.
00:18:09.560 We'll go into that here in 60 seconds.
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00:20:09.240 So we have lost our culture, our history, our traditions.
00:20:13.320 We're going to have to change the way we, oh, am I channeling Michelle Obama?
00:20:17.040 Yeah, apparently I am.
00:20:18.580 So culture has become debased, art, music, film, everything.
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00:24:09.220 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.
00:24:16.500 We are so glad that you're here.
00:24:18.220 We're looking for answers on what is happening.
00:24:22.020 I'm Glenn Beck, along today with Pat and Stu, who are joining me.
00:24:27.940 And we're just kind of discussing today all of the different aspects of the convention.
00:24:33.540 Well, first, Stu, remind me to get back to NBC's Alex Wagner and the theory on Pence.
00:24:42.640 Have you guys read this yet?
00:24:44.100 The Pence theory?
00:24:44.960 No, I haven't heard anything about Pence.
00:24:46.020 Not Pence.
00:24:47.460 Vance.
00:24:48.400 Oh, no.
00:24:48.940 The Vance theory.
00:24:49.680 Okay, no.
00:24:50.280 I don't know what you...
00:24:51.460 Listen to this.
00:24:52.120 Okay.
00:24:53.140 The Republican vice presidential nomination included J.D. Vance, and he dropped an Easter egg of white nationalism.
00:25:03.540 An Easter egg.
00:25:05.620 I know, quoting, I know there was not the same red meat sort of blood and soil nationalism you might hear in, I don't know, other parallel universe Republican conventions.
00:25:15.200 So now we're into parallel universes.
00:25:17.720 But I do think there were sort of Easter eggs of white nationalism in his speech.
00:25:22.380 One of the things that stuck out to me was when he started talking about what America is.
00:25:27.580 He said America's not just an idea.
00:25:30.120 It's a group of people with a shared history and a common future.
00:25:35.440 The thing about America is it's not a group of people with shared history.
00:25:39.680 In fact, I think a lot of people would argue it's quite the opposite.
00:25:42.740 It's a lot of people with different histories and different heritages.
00:25:46.080 And then she goes into how he wants to be buried in Kentucky, but not in San Diego, where his wife's foreign parents are from.
00:25:58.540 And it's like, are you...
00:26:00.840 I mean, these people have literally gone insane.
00:26:04.660 Literally gone insane.
00:26:06.300 Again, gone is an interesting way.
00:26:08.240 I don't know that they were ever sane.
00:26:10.500 Like, was there ever a moment of sanity that I may have missed that show that they put on?
00:26:16.280 Yeah.
00:26:16.500 But yeah, it's interesting.
00:26:18.880 And I...
00:26:19.260 Here's a thing.
00:26:20.780 And I don't know if you guys feel this way, but I'm just going to throw this theory out here for a second.
00:26:25.040 While I, of course, mock them relentlessly for these crazy theories.
00:26:30.040 And honestly, some people on the right are coming up with crazy theories.
00:26:33.240 And I mock them a little bit as well.
00:26:34.760 I just feel like everybody comes up with crazy theories.
00:26:37.320 At least that's how I would normally react in this situation.
00:26:39.840 This particular story, though, is so bonkers.
00:26:44.740 It's so hard to believe that they just were like, ah, I guess let's leave that roof unattended.
00:26:52.700 Like, these things are so crazy that I give a little bit more grace on conspiracy theories here than I normally would.
00:26:59.920 Do you buy that, Glenn?
00:27:00.920 Yeah, but that one at least makes sense, doesn't it, Pat?
00:27:05.000 I mean, the one, we didn't go up on that roof because it had a slant to it.
00:27:10.220 I mean, you want to talk about safety first.
00:27:12.800 I know.
00:27:13.320 Holy cow.
00:27:15.220 It had a slant to it.
00:27:16.700 Yeah, like a three-degree grade.
00:27:19.180 And forget the fact that it had a slope.
00:27:21.800 What about, I don't know, station somebody at the ladder that leads to the roof?
00:27:26.380 Could you do that?
00:27:27.700 Right.
00:27:28.040 You're so worried about your agents not being able to stand or sit or lay on that slope that you wanted them inside the building instead, but you couldn't put somebody out where the ladder is that leads to the roof?
00:27:43.200 That's kind of insanity.
00:27:46.060 Yeah.
00:27:47.240 And I don't know if you guys saw this, but the New York Times had a video they put out of this whole incident.
00:27:54.620 And they showed the two pairs of snipers from the Secret Service or police on the two buildings.
00:28:01.920 One of the sniper teams was set up in a position in which a tree blocked that building.
00:28:08.040 This is why the farther away sniper team is actually the one with the successful shot.
00:28:12.180 But, like, why on earth would you set up in a position in which there is a tree in between you and the one elevated position in the entire field?
00:28:22.080 Like, I just, it's impossible.
00:28:23.560 Because we have Sniper Sam and Sniper Sid, right?
00:28:28.000 Sniper Sid, you're there, right, with the Secret Service.
00:28:31.280 I'm there with Sniper Sam and Sniper Sid.
00:28:35.160 That's bizarre.
00:28:36.760 Who's running that place?
00:28:38.640 Who's running that place?
00:28:39.780 And then the other one that, you know, just gets me is they're not talking about a conspiracy of COVID.
00:28:48.920 He's got COVID.
00:28:51.140 Come on, how many times has that guy had COVID?
00:28:55.320 I don't know anybody who has COVID anymore and is like, oh, I'm just wiped out with COVID.
00:29:00.900 I just can't handle it.
00:29:02.220 I think that guy could die in his sleep in the next week.
00:29:04.940 It's like, you know, he'll have to decide if he's going to die or not.
00:29:09.380 He's going to have to decide.
00:29:10.700 Will he drink the medicine that we give him every night or not?
00:29:15.360 Because it'll be his decision.
00:29:17.420 I mean, I just think that, you know, they're serious about getting rid of him.
00:29:23.500 And to add to this, it was immediately after an interview he gave in which for the first time he opened up the possibility of stepping down for a health crisis.
00:29:33.360 Like, it was literally the last thing he did before the COVID isolation was to say, you know, yeah, I mean, if a big health crisis came along, well, then he went and, excuse me, then he went and got into people's faces at a Mexican restaurant and gave them all COVID.
00:29:47.720 But after that, he went into isolation.
00:29:50.180 I mean, it is every single story is impossible to believe that's where we are.
00:29:55.220 So what happens from here, Pat?
00:30:01.140 What do you, I mean, I think that there is a real chance.
00:30:04.740 Remember, Abraham Lincoln was elected the nominee by the Republican Party on the 50th ballot.
00:30:12.260 And that's when they all just started going crazy.
00:30:14.940 And they're like, I don't know, the guy with the ward on his face.
00:30:18.080 And I could see that happening with Michelle Obama.
00:30:21.580 They go through and they're just doing an open convention and they can't decide on somebody.
00:30:27.020 And there's somebody like Michelle Obama.
00:30:28.780 And everybody's like, yay.
00:30:30.040 And the next ballot, Michelle Obama wins.
00:30:32.420 And she's drafted.
00:30:34.280 I mean, I just think that's so plausible.
00:30:38.140 Except I don't think she's going to run.
00:30:39.940 She doesn't want it.
00:30:40.980 She does not want it.
00:30:44.020 She hates this country too much to do that kind of work.
00:30:46.840 She loves her life too much to do that kind of work.
00:30:49.380 But if the hatred of the country is a big feature, which I think.
00:30:52.360 She could continue to destroy it.
00:30:54.060 That's a reason to do it.
00:30:54.740 Yes.
00:30:55.200 But the other aspect is how much she loves the life of a $100 million deal from Netflix.
00:31:01.520 And all the fruits of that deal.
00:31:04.880 And the life they're living now.
00:31:06.660 She doesn't want to give that up.
00:31:07.500 And I think we can all realize that she deserves that life.
00:31:10.840 And she should continue to enjoy it forever.
00:31:16.080 There's no reason to get involved in politics.
00:31:19.100 Michelle, you're above this now.
00:31:22.660 Stu just doesn't want to lose the $6,000 bet.
00:31:26.480 Six?
00:31:27.180 You keep inflating this.
00:31:28.760 It's three.
00:31:29.480 And you know it's three.
00:31:30.580 It's Biden inflation.
00:31:32.160 I don't want to keep going up.
00:31:34.160 But it's Biden inflation.
00:31:35.260 Well, I think very much you do at this point.
00:31:37.980 And we're at the point almost where I can't win the bet.
00:31:41.020 That's the problem.
00:31:41.880 Because I had it as Biden would be on the ticket.
00:31:44.620 And you had Michelle.
00:31:45.660 And there is this in-between ground where Biden steps down.
00:31:48.500 And it's Kamala Harris.
00:31:49.400 And neither of us win.
00:31:50.340 And we're getting into that ground right now.
00:31:51.960 And it does not make me comfortable.
00:31:53.620 Yeah.
00:31:53.780 You know what's amazing to me is that if you look at this with Michelle Obama, what you
00:32:00.440 just said, she loves her lifestyle too much.
00:32:05.200 She hates America so much.
00:32:07.020 But she loves her lifestyle more than she hates America.
00:32:10.460 So she would never do it.
00:32:12.120 Okay?
00:32:12.840 Look at Donald Trump.
00:32:15.360 He's got an amazing lifestyle.
00:32:18.460 They've destroyed it.
00:32:20.480 They've destroyed his family.
00:32:22.480 They've hauled him in front of court after court after court.
00:32:26.040 And then they shoot him.
00:32:28.060 And he still gets up on the stage and says, I'm running because we got to stop this insanity.
00:32:36.360 Yeah.
00:32:36.420 I mean, which one?
00:32:38.740 Big difference.
00:32:39.380 Yeah.
00:32:39.740 What a difference.
00:32:40.900 Yeah.
00:32:41.640 It does look like, I'm sure you guys mentioned this earlier.
00:32:44.380 It does look like this weekend might be it though for the Biden campaign.
00:32:48.800 I don't know.
00:32:49.260 That's what they're saying.
00:32:49.980 And there's a pretty detailed, where did I see this?
00:32:52.860 It's, I don't know.
00:32:53.820 MSNBC, I think.
00:32:55.300 No, it was Newsmax.
00:32:56.660 It was Newsmax.
00:32:57.800 They were talking about this really detailed plan now to open up the convention and bring
00:33:05.320 in Kamala Harris.
00:33:06.420 And she's already pre-approved her running mate, supposedly.
00:33:09.580 And also there would be Gavin Newsom and Gretchen Whitmer.
00:33:15.920 And those are the three that are going to battle it out on the floor at the convention
00:33:19.360 in August.
00:33:21.080 You buy that?
00:33:21.580 I think it goes right to Kamala Harris, honestly, which is not an exciting opportunity for the
00:33:26.180 Democrats.
00:33:26.500 But this is, that sort of plan is the type of thing that could lead to Glenn winning this
00:33:31.060 stupid bet, which I never agreed to, which is that Glenn, that you have those three fighting
00:33:39.700 it out.
00:33:40.220 It gets so ugly.
00:33:41.500 No one can make a decision.
00:33:42.960 And then Michelle comes in over the top and says, oh, here I am.
00:33:46.100 She comes down from the sky with like clouds and light beams.
00:33:50.380 And people are like, look at those arms.
00:33:52.440 Look at her arms.
00:33:54.000 Look at those arms.
00:33:54.860 They need to be in the Oval Office, those arms.
00:33:57.520 That's the only place they can live.
00:33:59.280 And then she winds up coming in over the top and just wiping all of this out and winning.
00:34:02.960 It's still, I still think it's a long shot for it to happen, but there is some scenario
00:34:08.680 where it gets so chaotic.
00:34:10.460 They need something like that.
00:34:12.400 But I will say, I mentioned this to Glenn, I think off the air, Glenn, I don't know,
00:34:16.040 if we talked about it on the air yet today, I'm very confused.
00:34:18.340 It was a very late night last night, but all of the reporting about the Biden stuff, about
00:34:23.720 him stepping down this weekend is all nonsense.
00:34:28.100 It's all like one headline from the New York Times yesterday was Biden now is warming to
00:34:36.400 the belief that he may have to step down.
00:34:40.360 That isn't saying anything.
00:34:42.240 What do you mean he's warming to the may?
00:34:43.840 What do you mean?
00:34:45.160 This is like one of those old school Al Gore statements that's filled with so many disclaimers
00:34:49.460 it doesn't mean anything about the climate.
00:34:51.480 Right.
00:34:51.640 It's just like, it's all this stuff.
00:34:53.620 It's all leaked by Nancy Pelosi.
00:34:56.000 She wants him out.
00:34:57.020 So she's leaking every negative thing about him.
00:34:59.500 His own people inside, like his close advisors that everyone says are the people that are around
00:35:05.140 him are all saying this stuff is all fake.
00:35:06.960 It's just all included in the paragraph, like paragraph 12 of these stories that are just
00:35:12.580 Nancy Pelosi screeds against this guy.
00:35:15.480 And the New York Times wants him out and the Washington Post wants him out and MSNBC wants
00:35:19.840 him out and CNN wants him out.
00:35:20.920 So they're just all running with it.
00:35:22.520 And he may very well get pushed out by all this pressure.
00:35:26.180 It may work.
00:35:26.920 But like, they have a plan.
00:35:29.740 It is very consistent with what the left does when they want an outcome, which is lie and
00:35:34.500 leak and then force the person out with the pressure.
00:35:38.340 I don't know that he'll survive this.
00:35:40.200 Almost nobody can.
00:35:41.560 I can't remember a politician who survived this much pressure.
00:35:44.360 The only one I can remember is Rod Buklojevic.
00:35:47.340 Well, Trump is a good example.
00:35:48.860 No, that's a good example, actually.
00:35:50.780 Because Trump, they hit him with everything.
00:35:52.880 But it was opposition pressure, right?
00:35:54.840 It was, well, there was his own party.
00:35:57.200 But Buklojevic was hit, you know, in his state and by everybody to the point that he
00:36:03.220 got to a 4% approval rating.
00:36:06.280 Four.
00:36:07.120 It's the lowest I've ever seen of any.
00:36:09.100 I think Jeffrey Epstein might have five, right?
00:36:11.280 Like 4% is about as low as I've ever seen for a public figure.
00:36:15.960 Which is also his dating age.
00:36:18.520 It was.
00:36:21.280 Oh, people.
00:36:22.400 No.
00:36:23.320 No.
00:36:23.700 Oh, that's just wrong.
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00:38:03.120 This is the Glenn Beck Program.
00:38:05.420 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program with Pat and Stu today.
00:38:25.000 Joining me as we just recap the week and go over what happened at the convention.
00:38:30.880 It is just bizarre.
00:38:32.020 I've never seen anything like this where really, truly anything could happen.
00:38:37.120 The President of the United States could die from COVID.
00:38:40.640 He could be forcibly removed by his own party.
00:38:45.940 He could decide that he's in, but they tell him that, yeah, no, you're at the convention.
00:38:50.620 Just do your acceptance speech and, you know, he's in his bedroom or something and has no idea where he is.
00:38:57.040 I love the fact that they're saying that he has to stop running, but that doesn't mean he has to stop being president.
00:39:05.620 He's just too incapable of running.
00:39:08.920 That's amazing.
00:39:09.880 Really, it's the reverse.
00:39:11.580 In a way, it's the reverse, right?
00:39:13.060 Like, he shouldn't be president right now because there's massive questions about whether this guy can do the job.
00:39:19.720 At some point, you can theoretically argue you put him on the ballot and at least the American people can judge for themselves after that.
00:39:27.100 Right?
00:39:27.240 Like, there's no argument to say he should stay in there, but he can't campaign.
00:39:30.740 That is impossibly stupid.
00:39:36.140 I keep waiting for Barack Obama to make a public announcement on this.
00:39:40.780 And when that happens, that will be the definitive answer, I think.
00:39:44.420 You think?
00:39:44.820 Yeah.
00:39:45.120 If he tells him, if he says, yeah, Barack knows that we've got to change our history and our traditions.
00:39:50.680 And if he says that Joe Biden can't run, Joe Biden won't run.
00:39:56.160 You know, Biden, all the reporting was when Biden wanted to run in 2016, it was Barack who basically chose Hillary over him, right?
00:40:05.640 Over his own vice president.
00:40:07.780 Everybody says, and you never know, you can't get in these people's minds, but everybody says inside the Biden camp that he really resents that.
00:40:14.460 And does not look at Obama as this, like, wonderful figure.
00:40:17.520 They have this tight tie.
00:40:18.720 He's more angry about how he should have been president in 2016 and not have to wait until 2020.
00:40:24.280 I don't know.
00:40:24.800 I mean, there are at least some people inside the Biden camp are saying the more Obama speaks out publicly, the more he's going to dig his heels in.
00:40:33.080 Because he's angry about that.
00:40:34.140 That would surprise me still.
00:40:35.340 They hate each other.
00:40:37.340 They hate each other.
00:40:38.440 I think that's probably true.
00:40:40.880 That's probably true.
00:40:41.880 Or they hate each other.
00:40:42.500 Anybody knows.
00:40:43.360 Yeah.
00:40:43.740 Yeah.
00:40:44.020 But, like, you know, that's the thing.
00:40:45.400 Like, if someone you hate is telling you to do something and trying to force you publicly to do it, don't you resist that?
00:40:52.160 Stand strong, Joe.
00:40:54.000 You can do this.
00:40:56.700 Fight through.
00:40:57.480 Don't listen to Nancy Pelosi.
00:40:58.980 You're the president.
00:41:00.660 Yeah.
00:41:01.140 We believe in you.
00:41:02.600 And I have to tell you, Obama called me last night.
00:41:05.740 Boy, he hates you, Joe.
00:41:07.940 He says you're so weak that you're going to fold like a bag of chips.
00:41:13.520 Oh, my gosh.
00:41:14.320 Wow.
00:41:14.620 That's big news.
00:41:15.460 Yeah.
00:41:16.460 Yeah.
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00:43:11.960 This is the Glenn Beck Program.
00:43:17.640 Well, hello, you sick freak.
00:43:18.920 Welcome to Friday.
00:43:21.160 My name is Glenn Beck.
00:43:22.120 I'm joined with Pat and Stu today as we talk about everything political, all the convention this week.
00:43:28.200 I thought it was absolutely incredible.
00:43:30.200 We'll get into that.
00:43:31.600 And what is happening to Joe Biden and the Democrats.
00:43:35.120 It is, I mean, you know, communists, socialists, Islamists, when they're all working together, it's just beautiful when you get those progressives in there and they start to eat themselves.
00:43:47.220 And right now, it is an all-you-can-eat buffet on the left.
00:43:51.020 They are just devouring each other.
00:43:53.020 And it's kind of fun to watch.
00:43:53.620 And it's kind of fun to watch.
00:43:55.560 It is kind of fun to watch.
00:43:57.120 I mean, in a peaceful, gentle way.
00:43:59.400 Because they're eating of each other is mostly peaceful, I understand.
00:44:04.400 So, we'll get to that here in just a second.
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00:46:10.400 So we welcome Pat and Stu to the program as we talk about the speech last night.
00:46:19.680 It was, you know, I didn't watch anybody else's coverage.
00:46:23.860 This is the first time I didn't watch Fox News.
00:46:25.900 I didn't watch ABC, NBC, CBS.
00:46:30.960 First time in my life.
00:46:32.340 Because I just didn't want to hear what they had to say, quite honestly.
00:46:35.940 You know, and I saw some clips from the other networks.
00:46:39.780 And they immediately were like, you know, he says he wants to unite America.
00:46:44.580 But how can we unite America when we don't look like each other?
00:46:49.600 I'm black.
00:46:50.580 He's not.
00:46:51.500 How it is there to unite on?
00:46:53.040 And it's like, oh my gosh, you people, just shut up, will you?
00:46:57.900 Did you guys watch the coverage on other networks?
00:47:00.680 No.
00:47:00.900 And I thought it was part of the low-key brilliance of Trump doing a very long speech in that
00:47:06.400 everyone just went to bed the second it was over, if you lasted through it.
00:47:10.120 Like, no one was staying up to hear the left-wing nonsense that happened afterward.
00:47:15.180 But yeah, I feel like you've heard everything they could say about Trump, right?
00:47:19.880 And they just, they've said the same things over and over and over again.
00:47:23.160 It's just not interesting anymore, like it ever was.
00:47:25.700 But it's especially uninteresting now.
00:47:28.220 Because, yeah, we've heard it.
00:47:29.940 We get it.
00:47:30.500 You don't like the guy.
00:47:31.640 I got it.
00:47:32.420 Yeah.
00:47:32.540 I think it was the New York Times that came out with a piece right around the time of
00:47:38.560 the speech.
00:47:39.120 And it was like, here's the vision of Donald Trump's America in 2025.
00:47:43.380 It's dark.
00:47:44.020 It's dangerous.
00:47:45.180 It's threatening.
00:47:46.240 Everything he did before is just building to a much bigger movement.
00:47:49.060 And I'm like, this is five days after he was shot on stage that they're releasing yet
00:47:55.440 another vision of this man who wants a fascist theocracy in this country.
00:48:01.760 And there was, Glenn, what happened to the week, two weeks, three weeks you're supposed
00:48:10.360 to get after someone gets shot where you're not calling them a fascist?
00:48:14.080 Like, there was no honeymoon period at all for Donald Trump after this was there.
00:48:19.360 No.
00:48:20.180 It was truly amazing.
00:48:21.880 And for no one in the mainstream media to really notice the profound difference in Donald
00:48:33.400 Trump and in that convention.
00:48:36.220 Van Jones, do we have the clip of Van Jones from yesterday when he was talking about how
00:48:42.360 he has seen this one other time before?
00:48:45.900 Play that.
00:48:46.240 This spirit that this guy has, you guys think this guy, he's drunk?
00:48:49.940 He's not.
00:48:51.340 This whole thing is like this.
00:48:53.340 What?
00:48:54.040 Yeah, he's drunk on the perfect night.
00:48:56.680 Hey, guys.
00:48:56.880 The last time I was in a convention that felt like this was Obama 2008.
00:49:00.840 Yeah.
00:49:01.360 There's something happening where...
00:49:03.880 You just wrote a headline, by the way.
00:49:05.540 What's that?
00:49:05.980 You just wrote a headline with that comment.
00:49:07.280 Just like Obama, and just like Obama, Trump is showing in this convention, he has the capacity
00:49:13.960 to alter the composition of the electorate.
00:49:20.020 That's pretty amazing.
00:49:21.080 That's CNN.
00:49:22.960 And if you watched any of it, I mean, I have to tell you, kudos to the Trump family, because
00:49:31.240 the Trump family really orchestrated this whole thing, and Donald Trump tore up all the plans
00:49:37.580 right after the assassination attempt.
00:49:39.980 And it was truly remarkable how they hit on everything that I thought was important.
00:49:48.920 They hit on the economy, and they talked about people.
00:49:54.060 And it didn't feel like the usual, you know, I was in the supermarket, and Jane, a mother
00:50:00.040 of four, was there, and she said, apples, the price of apples.
00:50:05.080 How can I sell apples on the street for 10 cents when they cost me $435 an apple?
00:50:12.120 It didn't feel like those fakie things.
00:50:15.120 It was real.
00:50:16.280 When you had the 13 Marines parents up on stage, and they were talking, and it wasn't about politics.
00:50:28.000 It was about my son, my daughter died, and the president didn't even recognize my son or
00:50:37.620 daughter's loss of life.
00:50:38.680 Still says that they weren't even killed.
00:50:40.480 Um, and you heard these people, the Teamsters guy, I never thought I would see a Teamster
00:50:48.820 leader on stage at a Republican convention, but when he's up there saying, look, this is
00:50:54.920 just, it's killing us.
00:50:56.300 What's happening is killing us.
00:50:57.700 And the Teamsters are not with the Democrats anymore.
00:51:02.000 Um, it was just story after story after story that was so relatable, so well crafted, so well
00:51:09.340 told that, and the people at the convention were happy.
00:51:15.700 It was strangely, after an assassination attempt, everybody found their happy place, and it was
00:51:25.040 this joyous celebration of what could be, and I just, hats off to the Trump organization
00:51:33.300 and the RNC, I've never seen, they can screw anything up, and this is the first time I kept
00:51:41.360 waiting for the shoe to drop, uh, and it never did.
00:51:45.260 It just never did.
00:51:47.120 Would you say that they were able to accomplish what can be unburdened by what has been?
00:51:52.000 Is that what you would say?
00:51:53.940 I think that's really, I mean, gosh, that is so profound.
00:51:56.980 Could you say that again, like 40 times, um, because that's so good.
00:52:03.380 Now I hear Kamala, speaking of Kamala, that she is, uh, she is now vetting possible running
00:52:09.840 mates.
00:52:10.480 Don't know if that's true or not.
00:52:12.500 Um, but I hope she sticks with what she knows and she gets the driver of, you know, the one
00:52:19.020 that makes the wheels on the bus go round and round.
00:52:21.180 Oh, I know.
00:52:23.040 Because who doesn't love a yellow school bus?
00:52:25.680 Oh, wow.
00:52:26.280 Everybody loves yellow school buses.
00:52:28.940 I just love them.
00:52:33.160 Oh, my gosh.
00:52:37.260 Can you imagine if she is the nominee, what her address is going to sound like?
00:52:43.140 Oh, she'll be like talking to us like we're all four.
00:52:46.580 It will be hilarious.
00:52:47.540 And that we just don't understand inflation.
00:52:49.440 It will be hilarious.
00:52:50.660 It will be hilarious and bad.
00:52:51.880 I will say it will be better than anything that Joe Biden can accomplish.
00:52:57.160 And, and it's, and this is the thing with Kamala Harris.
00:53:00.300 She's terrible, but she does solve by far the Democrats largest problem, which is Joe Biden's
00:53:07.940 age.
00:53:08.880 And, you know, it's three and a half months until this election still.
00:53:13.540 I'm, it feels so good right now, but man, I, I, I do worry about changing any dynamic in
00:53:20.240 this race.
00:53:20.660 That's why Joe Biden needs to continue to fight because he really deserves the nomination.
00:53:24.320 He wanted, it's democracy, but millions of people voted for him, all the things.
00:53:28.420 But do you worry at all, Glenn?
00:53:29.920 I mean, are we at a point of such confidence and hubris that three and a half months back
00:53:36.280 later, we might look back and be terrified of as to what we have created?
00:53:41.280 Oh my gosh.
00:53:41.760 Three months.
00:53:42.260 I guess we could look back and say, do you remember when we didn't have nuclear winter?
00:53:45.860 I mean, anything could happen in three months.
00:53:49.320 Anything could happen.
00:53:50.760 Remember when we weren't all getting a rectal probe from aliens?
00:53:54.800 That was great.
00:53:56.080 Remember when the only aliens we had to worry about were the ones coming over the border,
00:53:59.760 not from outer space.
00:54:01.420 I mean, anything could happen.
00:54:03.100 So, uh, you know, I, I, I don't know, but I, I will tell you that what people in the press
00:54:10.740 should not dismiss is the actual change of countenance of Donald Trump.
00:54:17.840 Yeah.
00:54:18.200 The tone last night was unbelievably good.
00:54:20.580 Unbelievably good.
00:54:21.560 All week.
00:54:22.540 And, and he last night, you know, speaking of illegals, he told the story of victims of,
00:54:28.620 of criminal illegals, but the other thing he did that I absolutely loved was he stopped
00:54:34.120 and he said, you know, as Americans, as Republicans, and most Democrats, we want people to come
00:54:41.960 to this country, but we want them to do it legally.
00:54:47.120 I mean, that's the way we should have handled this from the very beginning.
00:54:51.380 Yeah.
00:54:52.060 He projected strength in all of the right places, um, and humility.
00:54:57.260 I mean, I, when was the last time you heard the, uh, Donald Trump say in all humility,
00:55:03.320 I ask, he did that three times last night in his speech in all humility, humility, I ask
00:55:10.680 for your void, your vote.
00:55:12.460 I come here humbled as a humbled man.
00:55:15.660 It was pretty incredible.
00:55:18.000 His tone has changed and where he was strong was, um, this war in Ukraine will be over.
00:55:27.260 The minute I get in office and he said it, and he was pretty believable, uh, when he said,
00:55:33.640 uh, those hostages need to be released before I enter office or you will regret it.
00:55:40.440 Um, I believed him, um, when he said at the same time, we're going to end these endless wars.
00:55:48.880 We're not going to keep going into all of these wars all over and we're going to stop paying
00:55:54.400 for wars for other people.
00:55:56.620 Again, I believed him.
00:55:58.340 And then on the compassion side, when he was talking about people, you could, I mean, that,
00:56:04.960 that piece with the fireman's, uh, uniform of the firefighter who just, you know, covered
00:56:10.920 his, his daughters and, and died for it, that was a, just an iconic moment.
00:56:19.660 There, there are several things that are happening now that are going to be imprinted in the national
00:56:25.620 psyche that will change us entirely.
00:56:29.700 Just like, you know, when Obama was giving his speeches at the convention and the things
00:56:36.780 that he did and the things that he and his wife said about, you know, we're going to fundamentally
00:56:41.620 transform America.
00:56:43.700 That, um, that was a moment that told you what direction we were going in.
00:56:50.660 And I think this week has been another one of those moments that really, um, quietly announced
00:57:00.380 the end of all this nonsense.
00:57:02.640 It's just, we're just going to dismiss it.
00:57:04.700 We're moving past.
00:57:05.860 Everybody's done with it.
00:57:07.380 Everybody knows it's just time to move on.
00:57:10.460 Uh, and I like that because that's, I think that's the attitude of God.
00:57:16.380 He's not surprised by any of these things when he's had enough.
00:57:20.380 He's just had enough.
00:57:21.360 And he's like, we're moving on.
00:57:22.760 I don't, don't, don't worry about him.
00:57:24.420 Satan over there.
00:57:25.340 Yeah.
00:57:25.500 He's a clown.
00:57:26.300 I got him.
00:57:27.380 I got him.
00:57:27.840 Don't worry about him.
00:57:29.040 Uh, you just do what you're supposed to do.
00:57:31.480 And I kind of got that feeling from the message from, uh, the convention that we're just going
00:57:39.360 to do what we have to do because we all know, we all know, and these clowns are going
00:57:43.700 to blow themselves up eventually.
00:57:45.480 I mean, they look at what they're doing with in 1968.
00:57:49.480 The convention in Chicago changed, uh, the country.
00:57:54.740 It, it, it changed the country.
00:57:56.780 It ended the madness of the 1960s within a year.
00:58:01.260 All of that stuff was dead.
00:58:03.440 Okay.
00:58:04.000 And what looked like it was going to take over the country, 1968, 1969, that was it.
00:58:10.180 In 69 was Altamont.
00:58:11.780 And that was the last straw for America done.
00:58:15.660 Um, and I think we're entering that period right now.
00:58:20.220 And this convention and this attempted assassination is what, is what heralded the ending of all
00:58:29.620 of this stuff.
00:58:30.720 Now that's hopeful, but I really think it feels right to me.
00:58:35.320 Is it to you guys?
00:58:37.480 I, I, if it can be maintained.
00:58:41.640 Yes.
00:58:42.080 I think you're right.
00:58:42.860 I think it's the right tone.
00:58:44.340 I think there's a, an eyeopening moment here for Donald Trump, where he no longer is looking
00:58:49.760 at like a 51 49 type victory where he squeaks out Arizona and Georgia and Pennsylvania and
00:58:56.620 is able to get back into the white house.
00:58:58.480 We're now looking at something that could be wider than that, right?
00:59:01.180 You could, you could see a situation where maybe Trump wins Virginia, maybe Trump wins
00:59:05.420 New Hampshire.
00:59:06.060 Maybe this is the type of thing that is a little bit more like, you know, Obama versus
00:59:11.220 McCain, like the type of thing with a real mandate.
00:59:14.720 And he sees that in front of himself and, and it, I don't know, Pat, do you think it just
00:59:19.120 make, is that turning on the discipline or is it just the fact that he just got shot
00:59:23.480 on stage and it's just changed him?
00:59:24.980 I don't know.
00:59:25.260 Probably a little bit of both.
00:59:26.140 Yeah.
00:59:26.860 Uh, definitely.
00:59:28.920 All right.
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01:01:18.500 I want to, uh, tell you about the Beck story, uh, my new history podcast series.
01:01:23.640 Next hour, I think we're going to play a couple of clips from it.
01:01:25.900 Uh, this is episode five, uh, and it is a history podcast.
01:01:31.540 This, uh, series, eight episodes is all about the takeover by the elites and how that happened.
01:01:39.500 We go back to the Supreme court now and look at the last 120, 25 years of the Supreme court.
01:01:45.960 And I'm telling you when, because I don't write this, um, Nathan Nipper, who is one of the best writers we have on staff.
01:01:54.720 He is a history, uh, buff and a history teacher.
01:01:58.200 And he went and researched, uh, I laid out the outline of what are the stories I wanted to tell.
01:02:03.780 And then he went and he found all the facts.
01:02:05.400 And I have to tell you, I learned things and he learned things that both of us are pretty astute on history.
01:02:11.300 Had no idea.
01:02:12.920 If you want to understand what's happening today in the Supreme court, you go back to the progressive era and Teddy Roosevelt and see the kinds of things that they were doing.
01:02:23.380 Then they're doing exactly the same things.
01:02:27.040 Now you will understand the leak of the Roe versus Wade decision.
01:02:31.680 You'll understand all of it.
01:02:33.300 Um, make sure you get episode number five.
01:02:36.600 It's out tomorrow, wherever you get my podcast, episode five of the Beck story, my new history podcast series.
01:02:43.420 And you can listen to the other four in case you haven't started and download them.
01:02:47.600 It's really, really tremendous.
01:02:50.140 The Beck story, episode five comes out tomorrow.
01:02:54.700 Uh, what is it that we haven't, uh, completed here on, um, on Donald Trump's speech last night?
01:03:03.040 Is there anything left to say on that?
01:03:05.740 Can I, uh, kind of extend this conversation on the, the whole idea that the toning it down era is already over this, this piece written by Chris Bedford.
01:03:17.640 He's one of the writers at the blaze.
01:03:18.820 He went through all the examples of how quickly the left jumped right back into saying, essentially, this guy's Hitler and is going to ruin all of your lives.
01:03:27.860 There was almost no break.
01:03:29.500 I thought we'd get a week.
01:03:31.200 I feel completely naive for thinking we'd get a week of people actually reflecting on what had happened.
01:03:37.140 Do you guys remember in our prayers?
01:03:40.820 We used to pray every morning when we were in New York out loud with each other.
01:03:44.400 And do you remember what the answer was on how does this end?
01:03:48.740 In their arrogance, they will destroy themselves.
01:03:53.000 And I think that's what's happening.
01:03:54.780 All right.
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01:05:11.720 If I may, I want to take a break from the speech.
01:05:30.140 We get back to it here in just a few minutes, but I want to take a backseat here for just a second and talk to you about something that I've been working on for a couple of years that its success or failure will be dependent really on you.
01:05:44.240 I have been taking art lessons for, I don't know, five, six years, and have gotten to know some great artists.
01:05:54.640 And my art teacher said to me as I was trying, I just wanted to paint landscapes because it took my mind off of everything.
01:06:01.960 And as she was teaching me and I would paint, she would say, tell me a story.
01:06:06.580 And I would tell her a story of something.
01:06:08.280 And she said, when I finished that landscape, she said, that should be the last landscape you ever do.
01:06:12.600 She said, you have so many great American stories.
01:06:14.960 You should paint stories.
01:06:16.160 And we started talking about how our artists no longer tell stories.
01:06:20.840 You know, it's kind of like, you know, Hilton Hotel art.
01:06:23.540 It's just kind of, you know, what's up on the wall.
01:06:26.640 And people can't afford really good fine art.
01:06:30.560 And it's hard to find things of meaning that you want to have in your home.
01:06:37.300 And so we started working with 30 of some of the best artists alive today in America and a few of them from overseas that just love America.
01:06:48.840 And we started taking them through the museum that I have where we have a massive collection of, you know, of American history.
01:07:00.840 And we wanted these artists to go through and find something that really inspired them, a story from American history that they wanted to paint and that they wanted to bring to life.
01:07:13.460 And we are doing a show at my studio.
01:07:17.060 It'll be the first time we open up the studios since for a very long time.
01:07:22.380 And it is called The American Narratives in Fine Art.
01:07:25.900 And it is going to be a combination of paintings and historic artifacts.
01:07:32.620 And there's not going to be any experts there to judge it and say, oh, well, look at the brushstrokes.
01:07:37.420 It is going to be judged by you.
01:07:39.620 You will vote on which painting told the American story the best one, which artist moved you to want to reconnect with American history.
01:07:52.000 It will be something for your whole family to come and see, and also this art will be for sale.
01:07:57.720 To give you – people just don't know great artists necessarily anymore like we used to.
01:08:05.340 But one of the greatest living artists, I believe, in today's world, if I had an unlimited amount of cash and I could buy anything this man's ever done, I would.
01:08:15.620 His name is Thomas Blackshear.
01:08:17.940 He is the Norman Rockwell of our day.
01:08:20.660 In fact, he's just been inducted into the American Illustrators Hall of Fame, which Dean Cornwell, all these great, great Winslow Homer are in the Hall of Fame.
01:08:34.120 He's a living artist, and he's incredible the way he tells stories.
01:08:39.660 And he called this week.
01:08:44.140 He's doing a couple of things.
01:08:45.280 He's doing Charlie Chaplin based on – we have his cane.
01:08:50.360 We have the props, the Ten Commandment props that you will see from the movie.
01:08:55.320 He's doing this amazing painting of Charlton Heston as Moses.
01:08:59.200 And he called and he said, look, I know this isn't political, he said, but I want to pray on this, but I wanted to know if I could paint the iconic picture of Trump getting back up off the ground with his fist.
01:09:14.620 And I said, Thomas, whatever the Lord tells you to do, you are more than welcome to do.
01:09:20.540 Thomas Blackshear joins me now to talk about that painting and this art show.
01:09:27.780 Welcome, Thomas.
01:09:28.560 How are you?
01:09:29.760 Thank you so very much for having me on, Glenn.
01:09:32.200 Good talking with you.
01:09:33.480 You bet.
01:09:34.480 Good talking to you, my friend.
01:09:36.320 So are you going to do the president's rise back up off the stage?
01:09:43.420 I plan on still maybe doing a painting like that, but my main thing was trying to make sure I had it in time for your show.
01:09:50.780 I'm still trying to figure out if I'm going to be able to get that done or not because I am still working on the other three.
01:09:56.360 So that's something I, like I said, I will be doing.
01:10:00.600 It's just a matter of trying to see if I can still get it done on time, and that's what I'm still trying to figure out.
01:10:06.460 Well, I will tell you, because some of them are going to go up for auction, and even if it's unfinished, you should bring it because I think people would pay a good price for that one, Thomas.
01:10:17.400 I think that is, in your style, that's going to be absolutely incredible because it is an iconic moment.
01:10:24.060 So tell me the stories that attracted you that you wanted to tell.
01:10:27.840 Well, I mean, man, when you sent us that list, you had so much to choose from.
01:10:36.560 It was hard to try to figure out what to do.
01:10:39.880 And, you know, I knew for sure.
01:10:43.260 I think the first thing that struck a chord was the piece, to do a piece on the Emancipation Proclamation because you had a copy of that.
01:10:51.700 So I'm like, yeah, maybe I should do one on that.
01:10:55.400 So that's the first one I chose to work on.
01:10:58.080 And I think I came up with a real nice design for that one, so I was pretty excited about that particular piece.
01:11:04.860 And then—
01:11:05.800 It reminds me, Thomas, if I may, your painting reminds me of—because I've only seen the outline and the early color study of it.
01:11:14.420 But it reminds me of a cover that Norman Rockwell did years ago.
01:11:25.500 And I can't remember the scene, but you have the Emancipation Proclamation printed.
01:11:30.380 And then you have, I believe it's the Lincoln Memorial in front of that, and then a black man in the flag wrapped around him with the opened handcuffs or chains.
01:11:46.980 And it's just stunning.
01:11:48.880 Stunning.
01:11:49.520 Yeah.
01:11:49.720 That was interesting because, believe it or not, that photograph of that man was taken at least almost 40 years ago.
01:12:02.800 And I just had it sitting in my studio.
01:12:05.760 Yeah, yeah.
01:12:07.400 Wait, so you took that picture 40 years ago?
01:12:11.060 Yeah, yeah.
01:12:13.440 What happened was this.
01:12:14.640 I was living—when I first got married, I was living in an apartment complex in California, and there was a neighbor of mine who—and this woman who was living there had a boyfriend who was a football player.
01:12:26.420 And he, you know, he had a nice physique.
01:12:29.220 And every time he walked by, I kept saying, man, I need to use that guy on something.
01:12:32.840 So, you know, I went up to him and asked him if he would pose for me, and he said he would.
01:12:37.220 And so he came over, and I was trying to figure out, well, what do I do with him?
01:12:42.380 You know, and so I said, well, let me—I don't know why.
01:12:44.800 I just said, let me wrap him up in the American flag.
01:12:47.780 And that's what I did.
01:12:49.040 And to be honest with you, the photographs really weren't that well done, but they were good enough to give me the impression and the image I needed.
01:12:56.740 And I've just been sitting on them for the last 40 years.
01:13:00.760 Unbelievable.
01:13:02.040 So, Thomas, besides us, if I may call you a friend, I don't know if you call me a friend, but I consider you a dear friend.
01:13:10.960 I don't want to ever assume, but I just love you so much, and I love your work so much.
01:13:22.560 Besides me calling you and asking you to do this, why are you doing this particular art show?
01:13:27.740 Because you are—you're everywhere.
01:13:30.340 I mean, just won the Grand Prix of the West and, you know, inducted in the Illustrators Hall of Fame.
01:13:37.420 You are so busy.
01:13:38.840 What is it about this art show that is different to you?
01:13:43.940 Well, the show is very unique.
01:13:48.160 Nobody that I know of has ever done a show like this before.
01:13:52.500 I mean, for you, first of all, to be the kind of historian you are and then having all these artifacts and memorabilia that you've gotten,
01:14:00.120 and to do a show where you display a painting and then next to it will be the artifact, I mean, that's just unique and different.
01:14:08.340 It's just a different concept.
01:14:10.500 And then, like I said, because of everything you own, my goodness.
01:14:14.900 And then the artist that you've chosen, I mean, it was kind of interesting because one of the artists,
01:14:19.220 one of my friends, Frank Ordazs, he showed me some of the stuff he was working on.
01:14:24.580 And when I saw what he was doing for you, I said, oh, my goodness, I'm going to have to up my game.
01:14:29.000 Because it looks so good.
01:14:32.660 It looks so good.
01:14:33.940 Yeah.
01:14:34.200 I just said, oh, boy, here we go.
01:14:36.120 You know, I got to—I can't come in here looking like, you know, some kind of slouch boy.
01:14:40.700 But I've been doing what I could to just try to, you know, do a nice piece with some of the images that I'm doing.
01:14:47.940 So we've done—you've been up to the ranch a couple of summers where we've had some of these artists come up
01:14:55.980 and learn how to storytell from people like Pixar and others.
01:15:01.660 And I have gotten the impression that many of the artists, not necessarily you, but many of the artists,
01:15:13.020 have a hard time because they'll be pegged for one particular kind of thing.
01:15:18.820 And they want to branch out and they want to tell these stories,
01:15:21.960 but they just haven't had the chance because some of the galleries are like, no, we don't—that won't sell.
01:15:28.780 That won't sell.
01:15:29.380 And they may be right in the end, I would hate to say this.
01:15:32.420 They may be right in the end, but I don't think they are.
01:15:35.140 I think people are hungry for inspiring art.
01:15:38.480 And, you know, one of yours is the picture of the angel guarding the child sleeping.
01:15:46.780 What do you call that one?
01:15:48.720 That's called Watchers in the Night.
01:15:53.420 Oh, my gosh.
01:15:54.400 That is one of the most stunning paintings I've ever seen.
01:15:59.380 And it's religious without being overtly religious.
01:16:04.960 Yeah.
01:16:05.140 You have another one.
01:16:07.020 I can't remember what it's called, but it's a black man and he is wrapped in like a club, a shroud of stars or something.
01:16:16.380 It's been a while since I've seen it.
01:16:18.220 Another unbelievable painting.
01:16:21.100 The image is called Night and Day.
01:16:24.760 And the painting is supposed to depict nighttime being wrapped up in daylight.
01:16:32.340 And that's the idea I got.
01:16:33.920 But what was unique about the painting was it's the first time I had ever done a painting for an art show.
01:16:39.320 And I didn't know what to do, so I prayed about it.
01:16:43.580 And I asked the Lord, I said, God, I need a painting.
01:16:46.760 I don't know what to do.
01:16:47.800 Could you give me an image?
01:16:49.320 I just ask you to make it an incredible design and give me nice colors and a powerful image.
01:16:57.340 And I don't remember how long it took, but it might have been a couple of weeks.
01:17:01.920 But I remember all of a sudden one day he flashes this image inside of me.
01:17:08.000 I saw it inside of my mind and it was perfect.
01:17:12.400 And all I did from that point on was copied what he showed me.
01:17:17.660 And so throughout my career, there's been at least six to seven times where God gave me an image.
01:17:26.580 And all I had to do was copy it.
01:17:28.360 The most recognized image that I've done, and I did it many years ago, is a painting called Forgiven.
01:17:35.640 And that painting came the same way where I prayed about it and God showed me the painting.
01:17:41.540 So when that happens, all I have to do is copy what he shows me.
01:17:46.700 And that's how I get a lot of the images, because he just gives them to me.
01:17:51.920 You make that sound so easy, but seeing that he's the greatest painter ever, it's not as easy as you make it sound.
01:18:03.480 I'm so thrilled to be your friend.
01:18:06.360 I am, as you know, I own one of your originals.
01:18:11.300 And it is, I mean, I've got a few really good paintings.
01:18:16.120 And that is my favorite painting that I own.
01:18:20.220 And I honestly wish I could own many more of yours.
01:18:23.640 And it's an honor to have you as part of this art show.
01:18:27.060 I'm just, you are the Norman Rockwell, you know, the J.C. Leyendecker of our day.
01:18:32.720 And I just, I'm thrilled to have you.
01:18:35.560 So thank you so much.
01:18:37.100 That is a big burden to carry, my man.
01:18:40.940 But I appreciate it.
01:18:42.480 Well, you carry it well.
01:18:45.800 You carry it well.
01:18:47.120 Thank you so much.
01:18:48.820 I want you to look up Thomas Blackshear.
01:18:51.340 It's thomasblackshearii.com.
01:18:54.480 You'll see some of his stuff.
01:18:55.980 You just go back into his past and you'll find these things that you've seen a million times.
01:19:00.100 And he's just remarkable.
01:19:03.720 He'll be one of the 30 outstanding top of their craft artists that will be joining me at the studio in September when we try the first American narrative in fine art.
01:19:18.940 Where we are trying to get these artists to be able to see that they can branch out from a barn or a horse or something that kind of feels like America and restore the storytelling to fine art.
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01:24:20.860 Welcome to the Fusion of Entertainment and Enlightenment.
01:24:46.280 this is the glenn beck program hello america and welcome to friday it's the glenn beck program i
01:24:56.940 want to take you through a couple of things uh with the convention that happened this week one
01:25:02.660 of the things is uh i have been praying for and looking for a revival in this country for
01:25:09.840 25 years um and there have been some uh some starts and some fits with it and and it's felt
01:25:20.460 like it was coming but uh you know you never you never know until you're deep into one
01:25:25.580 um however something changed in the last week and it may be the beginning of a of a reawakening of
01:25:35.100 america uh to god uh donald trump is a different man if you watched the speeches uh last night you
01:25:43.660 watched him all week at the convention he's changed and he knows he's on borrowed time and he i think
01:25:51.540 for the first time really knows who he serves and who's responsible uh as the author of his life um
01:25:58.720 and this is starting to happen and there's other things that are happening as well especially in
01:26:05.720 media uh and the books the chosen is um something that's remarkable that i don't know could have been
01:26:14.240 made 10 years ago uh and there's a new book that is out that is also telling the story uh of
01:26:23.120 our real spiritual heritage and it's written in a thriller form it's biblically accurate but it's
01:26:29.560 written in a thriller form and i'm going to introduce it to you in 60 seconds stand by
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01:27:50.860 let me introduce you or reintroduce you to a dear friend of mine kathy lee gifford
01:27:58.320 hi kathy lee how are you glenn i couldn't i was trying this morning to think how long it's been since
01:28:04.760 we we used to hang out quite a bit in new york and then you you were smart and got left out before
01:28:10.800 anybody did and i got you know it took me longer i left about five years ago but i was praying for us
01:28:17.200 this morning that our time together would be fruitful and and and blessed and and and favored of the lord
01:28:24.080 because you and i have always understood that about each other that everything we did and everything
01:28:30.920 that that fueled our life was not about us it never has been it never has been so i am so happy to
01:28:39.240 say hello to you again oh me too me too so you've written a new series of books or a new book that i think
01:28:49.300 is going to develop and hopefully a series right it's the first uh-huh right um and it's about
01:28:54.520 as a pilot you know right right i know um and this is the story of herod and mary so yes tell
01:29:03.120 me why this story is important and and what's different about your telling of it well this i've
01:29:10.320 lost track as i'm sure you have two of how many books you've written i know it's over 30 but i have
01:29:14.240 no idea and i don't care it doesn't matter i just keep finding stories that i that i can't keep
01:29:20.800 inside me so in 2012 i went on my first rabbinical trip to the holy land with an amazing teacher named
01:29:27.960 ray van der lan and and i learned for the first time you know herod is mentioned just twice in in
01:29:34.920 matthew for you know just twice and it's just we know he's a bad guy you can tell but there's no
01:29:39.580 it's all in black and white no color no technicolor no dolby sound right i went on this trip and i the
01:29:47.740 stuff i learned about herod i went and this is what happens to me all the time on these trips i
01:29:54.060 get mad why didn't anybody ever tell me this i i was i'm sick of being in grandma's sunday school
01:30:02.180 stop it these stories are epic they're unbelievable they're not all in the bible but if you search
01:30:08.960 deeper and deeper well so anyway i came home so on fire about herod that i literally uh my son found
01:30:18.060 everything on the internet there was about every book because i thought i got to make a movie about
01:30:22.040 herod this if jesus is the greatest story ever told and billions of people believe that herod is one of
01:30:29.760 the greatest stories never told and i thought there's something like what i don't i i don't know
01:30:37.680 anything really about him that's the point and once you start learning his story you're gonna freak
01:30:45.120 that he had he was one of first of all one of those genius architects probably of all time he what
01:30:52.000 he built in in israel uh the architecture the the cesarea maritime it took two cents no two millennia
01:31:00.400 for them to figure out how the man built a marina on the mediterranean sea so that caesar's ships could
01:31:06.320 come to and he called it cesarea maritime why was it why was it naming it after caesar because he needed
01:31:13.660 caesar he had no army he called himself the king of the jews he wasn't even a jew he was an idomite
01:31:20.160 idiomite from basically modern day jordan he wasn't a jew at all so the jews hated him you know
01:31:26.260 how they are about their ancestry and the romans didn't trust him because he was what he was he got
01:31:32.420 out of situations he was like the consummate politician uh he was he was paranoid like crazy
01:31:40.360 so he's always looking behind his back to see if you know of julius caesar was going to turn his back
01:31:45.160 on him or uh who what's her name cleopatra tried to seduce him he might be the only man that ever
01:31:53.560 said no to cleopatra but it's only because he didn't want mark anthony to murder him he and he
01:31:58.860 was turning his back about his whole family because he was the richest man on the planet
01:32:02.700 and he had all this power it's a modern day story basically glenn ripped from the headlines really
01:32:09.260 it's going on all over the world it never changes he murdered anybody and anybody that got in his way
01:32:16.920 including his children the only woman he ever loved his wife miriamne and and until our book opens
01:32:25.160 basically at the end of of his life when we go back and we tell it from the time that he was first
01:32:30.720 uh uh uh in in born basically and then we juxtapose it against the story of the beginning
01:32:38.240 of mary's life this young virginal uh teenage girl from from nazareth who has been visited by an angel
01:32:47.240 the purest of any kind of visitations could be and he tells her what's going to happen because god has
01:32:54.300 blessed her and she says let it be unto me as you have said i mean knowing that she could be stoned
01:33:01.060 for this she'd never been with a man she knew it but she knew nobody else would believe it so it's
01:33:06.960 an incredible story of herod's debauchery and his evil is evil all contrasted up against mary so people
01:33:16.360 ask me all the time and i'm sure they do you too glenn kathy do you think there's more evil in the world
01:33:21.120 now than there used to be and i always answer the same thing which is no evil has been evil was in
01:33:27.820 the garden of eden even when the lord god was walking in the cool of the day with adam and eve
01:33:33.260 the serpent was there so we shouldn't be surprised by that the only thing that's different now is that
01:33:38.420 we have a lot of cable news channels and we have cell phones i said but what we have to learn to do
01:33:46.000 is realize that that the lord god creator god jehovah elohim jehovah jireh jehovah rafa the healer all the
01:33:55.220 names of jehovah are still here too and that who that's who we have to look to and that's what mary
01:34:01.500 did and mary had mary had a journey to take that would be excruciating excruciating and she she said
01:34:10.600 yes lord so basically we open up the book as a thriller and i have to give great thanks to my
01:34:17.600 co-writer brian litzen phd because i don't know how to write these kinds of books i've written 30 some
01:34:25.700 other kinds and they come to me but it was my son cody who said mom we got to take this passion you have
01:34:33.020 for this ancient evil characters the next one we're going to write is about nero and the next one probably
01:34:38.780 about jezebel and ahab and you know it's always been there but i want people to have hope glenn
01:34:45.220 that even though this evil is happening we cling to the living hope and the living hope shows up
01:34:52.540 at in the course of us are telling the herod story in the form of a young teenage girl who's
01:34:59.240 has carrying the savior of humankind in her womb and if that doesn't give you hope what can
01:35:05.500 it really is interesting to me kathy lee um that um you know in a in our darkest times
01:35:15.480 it is a choice and one this sounds really weird but one of the things that has really given me
01:35:22.580 such hope in really dark times is you know this might be the time and i know everybody has said this
01:35:29.580 for two thousand years but this might be the time that christ comes back and when you really think
01:35:34.780 about that it's i think some people would go whoa wait hold on just say i don't want to but i think
01:35:40.760 that's exhilarating to think that we could be witnesses to those days that people have waited for forever
01:35:50.600 and when you have real faith that uh christ isn't surprised by any of this god knew this from the
01:36:00.240 beginning sovereign god yeah right it just it takes all of the pressure off of i mean you still have
01:36:06.680 to do what you're supposed to do but you don't you don't carry the burden of all this evil yes it takes
01:36:13.380 the fear away you know takes the fear away studying studying rabbinically which means studying the
01:36:19.320 source material of the bible uh the ancient languages that are still around and they haven't
01:36:24.560 changed which is the hebrew and the greek you know that in the hebrew bible there is no word for
01:36:29.640 coincidence none because they believe and i believe and i think you do too there is no such thing as
01:36:35.580 coincidence god is either sovereign god in all things or he's not god at all so when you say good
01:36:42.100 luck to somebody it's a waste of your breath there's no such thing as as luck there's no such
01:36:47.220 thing as random or coincidence no he is sovereign god and he always has been he's the only thing that
01:36:53.120 never changes the world around us my god every time you wake up and you look at the news everything
01:36:59.660 we don't know who's gonna be president this weekend you know we don't know who's gonna we don't know
01:37:03.660 anything we just have to know him and it's not about religion and you and i've talked about this so
01:37:10.000 often it's about relationships with the living god so i i agree with you but people when the first
01:37:16.900 and people don't understand this they will when the first christians were there when she i said no
01:37:20.920 there were christians when jesus was alive those were followers of the way they were all jews
01:37:25.960 all jews right and not until jesus was dead resurrected and ascended to heaven did their the apostolic
01:37:33.700 period begin and and and it was it was zero who actually called them little christians
01:37:40.640 because based on the word crystal and he did it derisively my dog's trying to get off my table
01:37:47.240 no i'm gonna walk with my phone if you don't mind for a second just so i don't have a dead dog on my
01:37:52.360 time yes some water but i thought i find that we're talking to kathy lee gifford about her new
01:38:00.260 book uh herod and mary it's a it's a thriller but based on uh the true biblical story um kathy
01:38:07.840 you know you talk about no coincidence um i think there was a change uh that happened after this
01:38:16.420 attempted assassination on donald trump and it changed the country and it changed him have you
01:38:22.420 paid attention to the convention at all this this week and and seen him because i know you know
01:38:29.120 donald trump quite well i've known i've known donald since i first moved to new york in 1982
01:38:33.660 and he was already a good friend of frank's at that point and his father uh fred uh they all used to
01:38:40.400 play golf together at all those great golf courses in um in that area and uh and you know i try to i
01:38:47.400 try to avoid politics because long ago billy graham said to me kathy the only thing i really regret in
01:38:52.820 my life was getting involved with politics you god has put you on this planet to be in the
01:38:57.820 entertainment world he's giving you a boldness about your faith he's told you and he says if i
01:39:03.320 would i'm just i love you kathy he told me this in my 20s you were god is going to use you hugely in in
01:39:09.760 in the media in the world of entertainment just keep telling people that he loves him that god
01:39:16.280 loves them yeah that's it and the three times that frank and i got involved in politics was because
01:39:21.600 we sued the state of new york for things that were against children and we won every time yeah but that
01:39:27.760 was not political in the sense of republican democrat it was about children right and jesus said
01:39:33.140 so i don't want to ask you about pop i don't want to ask you about politics i i i know i know you
01:39:39.500 don't i just wanted to let everybody know i am not a political animal but i follow it like an
01:39:44.400 animal and i know how i feel about things i pray about everything i pray for donald because he was
01:39:51.080 a he's a friend of mine and when when i was just giving birth to cassidy and that's 31 years ago he
01:39:57.000 saved me and cassidy from a crazed a psycho who was trying to murder me and her and he sent his
01:40:04.160 helicopter for me and cassidy he sent um his like i'm more and more every single day until they found
01:40:09.880 this guy i had more people around me protecting me and i just i i mean that's the donald that i've
01:40:16.060 known forever now of course yeah so that's i i can't help it i have a personal experience with
01:40:22.440 this man that very few people ever have but i've watched with interest the uh the spiritual um
01:40:29.780 changes the journey that that he has been on all these years because i've spoken to him at my home
01:40:34.660 and or different places and mar-a-lago uh you know about about jesus that's all i talk about to
01:40:41.640 anybody not if they don't want to talk about it but if they want to and he was always so respectful
01:40:46.580 and always under you know understood what i was talking about yes and then he just respected it
01:40:53.020 and that's what people don't realize about donald he will listen to people he's fascinated by people
01:40:59.080 and he wants to learn he wants to grow now once he became so hang on just a second kathy i've got
01:41:05.680 to take a quick one minute break and then we're going to come back and i want you to finish the
01:41:09.100 story but i'm up against the clock here so let me just take a quick break 60 seconds and we're back
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01:42:12.920 so talking to kathy lee gifford she has a new book out called herald uh herod and mary um but i i
01:42:30.380 wanted just to get her thought on the changes she has seen since the assassination attempt i think he's
01:42:36.480 had a real spiritual awakening that has humbled him and he knows truly who is the author of his life
01:42:45.980 do you agree i heard i heard your intro uh before i came on and i was sitting here thinking yes yes yes
01:42:52.800 but i i've seen it coming for far longer than just this assassination attempt because i've known him
01:42:58.500 for so so long and we've had so many conversations over the years i mean he and marla maples got engaged
01:43:04.120 at franklin my house in connecticut i mean we've had some conversations over the years you know and
01:43:10.800 i don't talk about it and it's no nobody's business but now that all this has happened i was sitting
01:43:15.640 here in my home in tennessee and i watched it in real time and of course the minute i saw him hit the
01:43:21.400 ground i just said oh jesus oh jesus be with him and everyone in the crowd you know and i was stunned
01:43:27.420 like he was that nobody went freaking out freaking out and rushing and paranoid and terrified as
01:43:34.500 would be natural to do to do so anyway then we saw him stand up and do the iconic thing that we'll live
01:43:40.940 in you know forever and i was rejoicing i was rejoicing i would have done the same thing if joe
01:43:47.480 biden had been assassinated or the me too i just me too i do not i hate evil the only thing i hate is
01:43:54.720 hatred you know and there are people that i don't like what they do but i don't hate them you cannot
01:44:00.660 call yourself a believer in god and in god's love and then say but at the same time i hate you and i
01:44:06.440 hope you die that you love cannot live next to hatred you know it just cannot you're you totally
01:44:13.300 out yourself as a complete hypocrite when you do that so anyway i was i was and i you know i knew
01:44:19.640 i've always known because i believe god is sovereign in all things and all things work together for good
01:44:24.620 but in romans 8 28 it says for those who love god and are called according to his purpose well mary
01:44:32.360 loved god and she knew she was called according to her his purpose his purpose not hers and she prayed
01:44:39.500 basically the same prayer that jesus did in the garden not my will be done lord but yours and that's
01:44:46.000 what we as believers all these thousands of years later glenn have to learn from these stories so over
01:44:52.000 the years i have seen certain friends of mine get to know donald privately personally spend time with
01:44:59.540 him pray with him he's always wants people to pray yes for him and he's not he's not embarrassed by
01:45:06.080 that he's surrounded by people that that know that he's called of god for whatever purpose we don't
01:45:11.460 know what it is yeah and and i and i think he has yeah and i think he has come to the conclusion
01:45:19.220 his will not mine kathy lee gifford thank you for being on the program herod herod and mary is the new
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01:46:47.060 this is the glenn beck program welcome it's friday if you missed any of the review of the convention or
01:47:08.340 donald trump's speech last night had a lot of very uh important and interesting things to say you can
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01:47:20.480 program and rate and review it helps us get discovered uh by new viewers yeah glenn also uh
01:47:27.820 your new book coming out next week um chasing embers which is your it's your first one you've
01:47:33.160 ever done right for a young adult thriller for young adults first young adult fiction i think we've done
01:47:38.740 i think i've done all of them now except like religious text cookbook i think we've hit all of
01:47:45.960 the categories now pardon me you had a cookbook uh out there yet oh no i don't have a cookbook get a
01:47:53.260 cookbook going we'll fire that one up i will say your uh hot chocolate and your mashed potatoes can
01:47:57.580 lead that thing it would be incredible both of them are amazing may just be that i will say too uh there's
01:48:03.100 a great program we talked about a little bit earlier this week going on with moms for liberty which is
01:48:06.660 an organization you're probably familiar with it's a great one and uh they are working to get
01:48:12.380 sane books into public libraries uh books that are actually appealing to kids uh that aren't woke and
01:48:20.540 insane and they are running a campaign now with chasing embers this is going through the 21st which
01:48:28.040 is sunday so only a couple of days left with this but if you donate to them this week 100 of your
01:48:34.960 donation will go to placing chasing embers into the hands of teens across the country in public
01:48:40.760 libraries like i didn't know they allowed glenbeck books in public libraries i thought that was
01:48:44.740 barred by the constitution or something but they do in some cities really you know they do in some
01:48:49.340 cities i i have to tell you let me give you some of the reviews that i've uh i've received from some
01:48:54.300 of the teenagers that just uh wrote it we asked them several questions would you read follow-up books
01:48:59.980 you know what was the most important thing that you learned uh was it exciting etc etc um here's
01:49:05.940 some of the responses most important lesson is that if you spread lies eventually everybody will
01:49:10.800 believe them so you must to fight spread the truth um another one the truth always matters even when the
01:49:19.320 world is run by pure power um keep history alive and share it with other kids dive deep into facts
01:49:27.220 look at many opinions on a subject and listen to one's own heart um and the story is connecting with
01:49:35.320 the um uh young adults as well i love the mystery of the book how it had a exciting turn at every point i love
01:49:42.440 the writing style drama of the story i will read the next one in the same series in a heartbeat um
01:49:48.380 so it's getting good reviews initially it's something you can read with your family uh you can give to
01:49:55.180 your probably i mean i think you know rafe was reading you know uh hunger games when he was eight
01:50:04.160 much to my chagrin um but uh so if they're a good reader they could probably read this easily
01:50:11.540 you know at seven or eight uh but it was really written for a young teenager 12 to you know 18 um and
01:50:20.700 kind of in the genre of harry potter where you can read it as a family and really enjoy it and it
01:50:25.540 it delves into history uh and tries to connect it's one of these books you know i just i just put uh on
01:50:34.080 my coffee table in front of my uh in front of the couch in our living room uh where the tv is we watch tv
01:50:42.220 i just put uh webster's original 18 what is it 36 dictionary um on the coffee table and i put it
01:50:51.540 there to see if it's there will my children reach for a a dictionary or for google because they respect
01:51:01.320 this dictionary well they were taught to well we would just beat them into submission uh on respecting
01:51:06.840 the original uh webster's dictionary and it was i put it down on the table we started watching that
01:51:13.040 night and some word came up in some show we were watching and uh one of the kids said what does that
01:51:21.820 mean i said i'm not sure and one of them reached for the dictionary and looked it up and we went
01:51:28.200 through and if you can teach your kids how to find the truth and how to find uh and and dig into
01:51:36.220 things it's kind of exciting for at least for me for the uh for the whole family but anyway um you
01:51:42.840 were saying that you could now give uh to the uh moms for libraries foundation this is moms for liberty
01:51:49.920 it's m4lfoundation.org slash back and they get these into public libraries and into school libraries
01:51:59.220 you know i mean i know we have all the places we can go it's different than the dr seuss you had it's uh
01:52:04.960 uh this one ends in the strip club uh with the big fat uh guy dressed as a woman stripping so
01:52:12.240 i know we can get those books in can we get good books into our public schools and libraries
01:52:18.200 that's what moms for liberty is doing this week they are um trying to get our book in
01:52:23.420 uh chasing embers m4lfoundation.org slash back is the way to is the way to help yeah or you know
01:52:31.640 if you just want to get the book for yourself uh or your family glennbeck.com you can go there
01:52:35.600 and pick it up uh because uh it's gonna be wherever books are sold yeah wherever books are sold starting
01:52:40.580 tuesday glenn yep it's uh officially released tuesday and if you ordered through glennbeck.com
01:52:47.680 you should be getting it if you don't have it already you should be getting it uh faster um all right
01:52:53.120 so uh let me tell you about something else that i learned that i am so excited to share with you
01:52:59.100 um tomorrow is episode number five of my podcast on experts it's called the back story kind of like
01:53:07.540 the back story on our history and this one is an eight-part episode or an eight-part series on
01:53:15.080 um experts and how did we go from a place to where you know we didn't have experts and we trusted
01:53:26.480 ourselves our neighbors our our family and now you're you you will be told by an expert that you
01:53:35.620 didn't see what you just saw uh or that men can become pregnant and because an expert says it you'll
01:53:44.520 believe it how did that happen how did a group of people that that used to hang on to common sense
01:53:51.720 all of a sudden reject their own knowledge their own understanding of universal truth uh and just
01:53:59.760 hand it off to an expert how is it we have wild inflation and the people who told us it was transitory
01:54:08.240 nothing to worry about or that it was great they're still telling us no it's it's not
01:54:14.180 no you just don't understand the prices at the grocery store what do you mean i don't understand
01:54:19.500 the prices of the i know when i'm spending more than i used to on groceries then we listen to these
01:54:25.400 experts they tell us all this stuff they've caused the problem and then we keep going back to those same
01:54:31.800 damn experts and saying okay but now what what are we going to do about it why would you ask the people
01:54:37.740 who broke it in the first place how did we get here well it's a progressive story and we went back
01:54:45.940 about 125 years and we started looking at how we got to become a society that doesn't listen to itself
01:54:54.000 anymore it doesn't listen to common sense it listens to experts and episode five which comes out tomorrow
01:55:00.300 is all about the supreme court and how the progressives changed radically changed the supreme
01:55:08.840 court it is fascinating and you will learn more about today and what's happening in the supreme court by
01:55:17.980 knowing what happened before let me give you uh just a a quick uh a clip a quick clip of it let's go with
01:55:27.500 uh backstory number seven please history can turn on a dime in america's case that's what happened on
01:55:36.800 september 6 1901 when president william mckinley stepped in front of a receiving line at the pan
01:55:43.260 american exposition in buffalo new york an anarchist named leon salgaz waited his turn in the long line
01:55:52.180 when he stepped forward to shake hands with president mckinley he suddenly pulled a 32 caliber
01:55:57.340 revolver from his jacket pocket and fired twice at point blank range the first bullet ricocheted off
01:56:04.840 of one of mckinley's coat buttons but the second bullet entered his abdomen and lodged in his back
01:56:10.720 mckinley survived for eight days before infection and gangrene ultimately took his life vice president
01:56:18.340 theodore roosevelt was on a camping trip in the anirondack mountains when he was summoned to a
01:56:23.340 friend's house in buffalo to take the oath of office as the nation's new president america had
01:56:29.700 its first progressive president and history turned on a dime
01:56:34.580 the sudden presidency of the oh there's more i'm sorry go ahead go ahead i'm sorry
01:56:43.400 instead they made do with their progressive allies in congress including wisconsin senator
01:56:51.140 robert la foliette they used those years out of power to spread their ideas in the press
01:56:57.820 and lay patient groundwork for the moment when the progressive would return to the white house
01:57:03.900 here's how the brandeis frankfurter partnership worked there was constant communication between
01:57:09.580 them sometimes even daily letters historian bruce allen murphy describes the letters from brandeis
01:57:15.060 as resembling quote shopping lists with numbered items proposing legislation political action
01:57:21.020 strategies and even the latest insider information on supreme court cases then frankfurter took action
01:57:27.860 on brandeis's requests he lobbied members of congress directly sometimes even drafted legislation
01:57:34.420 for them to try to correct decisions that brandeis thought the supreme court had gotten wrong
01:57:39.640 frankfurter's close working relationship with the new republic magazine his friendship with the
01:57:45.340 editors of the new york world and boston herald plus numerous other contacts in mainstream press
01:57:51.540 and law review publications enabled him to publish articles widely on any topic brandeis ordered
01:57:58.660 often frankfurter would take comments on current issues that he received in letters from brandeis and
01:58:05.380 redraft them into unsigned articles that were published in the new republic if frankfurter didn't
01:58:11.780 write the articles himself he farmed them out to other journalists in his network or as was often the case
01:58:18.980 he used his carefully selected core of harvard law school students to research and write scores of
01:58:25.060 articles for he and brandeis when these law student produced articles got published they often thanked
01:58:31.220 their professor frankfurter for his inspiration and support having no clue that the topic actually
01:58:37.780 originated with a sitting supreme court justice what's amazing about this particular back story is
01:58:45.620 if you want to know uh about the leak of the supreme court and how that happened you look back
01:58:54.740 at the early history of the supreme court which include the harvard law school and uh and then the
01:59:01.940 media and then secret clubs if you will that became uh known in washington dc where you got all the
01:59:08.900 progressives together and they started colluding with each other and then they would go to the press and
01:59:13.700 plant those stories and then they got uh brandeis into uh into the supreme court and he started colluding with
01:59:24.100 the white house and everything changed and it looked to the average american like the system was working
01:59:32.180 that there we had three branches but we didn't and it was run by a handful of experts and it completely
01:59:40.100 changed america this is what's happening right now i believe when you when you listen to tomorrow's podcast
01:59:48.500 on the beck story and you listen to the stories of the supreme court everything that you're hearing
01:59:55.700 and reading about the supreme court now how they're under attack the leaks who can you trust in the
02:00:01.060 supreme court uh the trying to jockey and get people off the supreme court all of this has been done before
02:00:08.660 and it is remarkable to hear it that's tomorrow on the beck story wherever you get your podcasts
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02:02:18.900 so is this the weekend joe biden stepped down from the nomination of the democrats i mean this is
02:02:35.140 an amazing time prediction markets now have joe biden the man who won the nomination the man who won
02:02:40.740 the primary the man who participated in a debate as the candidate of the of the party now has a five
02:02:48.020 percent chance of winning the election five percent what a weird time this is i will say it is
02:02:58.660 legitimately incredible i'm off for a few days next week glenn will be here with you uh and
02:03:04.180 by the time i get back i wonder if joe biden will still be the nominee going to be very fascinating
02:03:12.340 to watch that play out and it's going to be fascinating to watch the nancy pelosi smear
02:03:18.340 campaign either putter you know sort of peter out this weekend or just stop completely she has been
02:03:24.620 leaking story after story after story to the media the media eats it up over and over and over again
02:03:30.180 because they want the same outcome and over and over again the biden campaign keeps saying look
02:03:35.540 screw you guys it's our decision we will let you know if we're changing our minds on that
02:03:41.380 and so far they keep including today denying they are going to step down from this race and we of course
02:03:50.260 here at the glenn beck program want to encourage the president to stick with it joe you can do it
02:03:55.700 you've been doubted before and you can push through it if he does drop out we'll go live at youtube.com
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