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00:03:59.680 hello america you know my job is to try to help you make sense of the world and one of the things

00:04:08.980 i have not been able to make sense of and and honestly it's because i've not put it on the

00:04:13.260 front burner until yesterday is what are we doing we're blowing boats out of the you know like

00:04:18.840 what are they called cigar boats cigarette boats you know these these fast boats now like you know

00:04:24.300 homemade submarines we're just blowing them out of the water in venezuela and i just have not

00:04:30.300 felt this was about drugs what is this about well it is a war but it's not a drug war uh and i mean

00:04:41.060 this is just my opinion and i believe war is america's way to learn geography uh as i started

00:04:48.820 doing my uh homework if i if i asked you is guyana in africa or in south america what would you say

00:05:00.240 and i say i'll give you a thousand dollars double down on your answer thousand dollars double down

00:05:07.160 on your answer i would i would lose i would have lost a lot of money guyana is actually in south

00:05:14.400 america this is how little we know about the rest of the world this honestly the rest of the

00:05:18.800 world should just look at this and go america doesn't care no we really don't we really don't

00:05:24.220 so uh can you tell me the what nation borders on guyana okay you ready for this one uh venezuela

00:05:34.340 brazil and suriname

00:05:38.500 there's another country i've never even heard of and it's right off our coast okay so what is all of this

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00:07:12.280 most people just kind of roll their eyes okay we've been talking about the war on drugs forever and it

00:07:15.940 doesn't make any difference at all so another failed campaign another round of speeches another

00:07:20.520 generation is caught in the crossfire but what if i told you that the drug war that you're actually

00:07:26.020 watching today has almost nothing to do with cocaine or fentanyl i think the average person would go

00:07:35.040 yep that sounds true and i believe it is it has everything to do with oil and minerals and the

00:07:43.500 rebirth of american sovereignty what you have to understand about donald trump is he is reshaping

00:07:50.040 everything just as the wef said we're gonna go for the great reason we're gonna reshape the world

00:07:56.660 he's doing that single-handedly he is taking on everything and reshaping the world to uh have a

00:08:06.720 stronger uh america and one that is protected not mired in endless wars uh and strong financially

00:08:16.240 and militarily so we can protect ourself with american sovereignty so what's taking place right now in

00:08:23.980 south america is not a narcotics operation again this is my opinion you know i was talking about

00:08:30.760 it yesterday and i'm like i it's like the monroe doctrine this may be as important as the monroe

00:08:35.760 doctrine which the monroe doctrine uh was in this hemisphere don't screw with any of our allies you're

00:08:43.220 not going to put you know you're not going to put uh enemy ships and you're not going to play around

00:08:49.700 with countries in our hemisphere this is our hemisphere america is supreme in this hemisphere

00:08:55.620 you do your own thing but then we kind of got weak on that and now china is all over uh russia was all

00:09:03.440 over um the uh southern part of the western hemisphere so what he's doing is he's putting a new

00:09:11.480 monroe doctrine together that's donald trump now look at the map i'm trying to you really have to

00:09:20.720 look at it because i could say imagine the map and nobody can imagine them venezuela guiana columbia

00:09:26.940 okay three names you almost never heard anything about on cable news five years ago and suddenly

00:09:34.080 they're the front page priorities for washington dc and our military what well they're smuggling drugs

00:09:41.960 well yeah they might be but they're also doing a lot of other things including as we told you

00:09:47.020 terrorist island in venezuela they have hamas and iran in venezuela but whoever controls this little

00:09:54.600 triangle controls the western hemisphere and controls the western hemisphere's future its energy

00:10:03.920 its minerals and its manufacturing independence and venezuela is the fulcrum okay it holds the

00:10:12.640 largest crude reserves on earth and it's oil that is perfectly suited for america's gulf coast

00:10:18.820 refineries but china and russia have been moving in they're like vultures sitting there offering loans and

00:10:26.440 sweetheart deals to venezuela and venezuela has become more and more communist and more and more hostile

00:10:32.520 to america and they are trying to mortgage that entire system to beijing's state-run oil giants

00:10:39.980 so what are we doing well we haven't done anything about it we've just let them go in

00:10:45.420 now all of a sudden we're doing navy drills in the caribbean and we're doing sanctions we are

00:10:54.240 moving more ships and more naval assets i mean it is it is a full-fledged onslaught we are sending a

00:11:03.140 message and i don't know we're sending a message just to the drug lords okay this is a pressure

00:11:09.280 campaign that kind of looks like the old drug war but is really i believe designed to crowd out the

00:11:18.340 chinese influence this is about keeping venezuela's energy in the western family not letting it become

00:11:26.720 another victim of the belt and road uh initiative and a pawn of china then there's guiana which i thought

00:11:35.960 was in the other hemisphere i had no idea it was on this continent that's you know just below us

00:11:41.780 apparently called south america uh it's tiny it is uh quiet and suddenly a gold rush of oil now an

00:11:53.280 american company exxon mobil leads the charge there and washington isn't just helping fight traffickers

00:12:00.780 it's defending america's offshore platforms they're building radar networks they're locking down the entire

00:12:09.140 coast because it's not just about barrels it's about cables it's about information it's about

00:12:16.740 pipelines it's about rare earth minerals all of those things are going to power the next century

00:12:23.620 and then columbia we know because that was the first thing that all of a sudden donald trump started

00:12:28.600 talking about the about columbia and then the panama canal and everybody's like what are we talking

00:12:33.260 about where are we back in 1958 no nobody had talked about nobody had paid attention to it

00:12:37.300 this guy is so far ahead of the curve he is so far over the horizon i don't think people really

00:12:44.160 understand what he's doing columbia is the hinge between the caribbean and the pacific

00:12:50.460 so we were told for decades that the u.s military presence there was about fighting the cartels

00:12:56.600 maybe but i think the truth is that columbia is the geographic and logistical bridge

00:13:04.440 between the hemispheres okay it guards both oceans it buffers the panama canal it sips it sits atop

00:13:13.380 minerals every modern economy needs now uh lithium rare earth all of this stuff you control columbia

00:13:22.040 and you control the western hemisphere's arteries now that's not drug interdiction

00:13:28.280 that's grand strategy this hour i kind of want to make sense of the world for you in two things

00:13:36.180 and it all hinges around a theory that i'm i'm peddling a theory and i could be wrong on this

00:13:44.340 um that when i look at all of the dots they don't make sense you know this is a this is about that

00:13:51.840 submarine with cocaine in it really is it we're sending our entire military out to get the submarine

00:13:58.040 with i mean i want drugs to stop i get it but really doesn't make sense to me so the dots don't

00:14:05.040 make sense and there's too many up on the board that just don't make sense unless you start to frame

00:14:10.140 it in another direction and i did this last night with not only south america and what we're doing

00:14:15.580 with venezuela and the quote drug war but also gold and so i want to finish this in a minute and i want

00:14:22.640 to move to gold because i want to tell you i think there's a grand strategy here that everyone is

00:14:30.100 missing okay so why does all of this matter trump is the first president since reagan i think to

00:14:38.420 understand that america's strength doesn't come from endless foreign wars it comes from owning the

00:14:43.760 supply lines from building the sovereign trade the energy the technology pipelines all of the stuff

00:14:51.040 that runs all the way through our hemisphere not beijing so he's he's not trying to make america the

00:14:59.040 world's policeman anymore he's not doing that he's making us the secure citadel he is forcing every

00:15:07.460 region europe think about what he's done with with nato what is he doing we're not going to be your

00:15:13.260 policeman anymore you got to step up to the plate you got to do it the middle east we're not going

00:15:17.980 to be policemen here anymore all of you arabs you do it you get together you make peace he's brokering

00:15:24.300 peace and also saying to the rest of the world you need to step up and he's doing it in latin america

00:15:30.580 to the police themselves every move you see sanctions seizures aid freezes even visa crackdowns

00:15:40.000 this is all i believe about locking down critical resources before china does this is economic

00:15:47.140 warfare disguised as moral policing okay and the irony is it may be one of the smartest uses of the drug

00:15:55.480 war apparatus we've ever seen this one actually might work and do something so let me tell you

00:16:03.080 something that nobody else is telling let me give you what everybody else is missing this is not about

00:16:07.420 ideology this is not about drugs this is about global architecture trump is tearing down the old

00:16:19.260 corrupt order the wef great reset corrupt global order and he is building one not on dependency and debt

00:16:32.620 and endless intervention he's laying he's he's chopping the trees down he's uh paving a road and he's laying

00:16:40.900 the asphalt for a new one a hemisphere that produces its own energy defends its own borders works together

00:16:48.500 and reclaims the american right to chart its own destiny while encouraging all other countries to do exactly

00:16:56.480 the same and he's making as many allies as he can in any way he can that's what's really happening i think

00:17:06.400 behind the headlines while everybody else is like should we do this before you talk about a drug war

00:17:12.060 ask yourself does that make sense now to everybody who is you know no kings yeah that might make sense

00:17:21.380 because you're not thinking anyway i invite you to look at a much bigger picture we know the rest of

00:17:29.900 the world was way down this path of a new global world government and a global world order we also know

00:17:38.420 donald trump was never for that we know that donald trump doesn't like wars so why do we have the

00:17:45.360 military venezuela of all places because this is not about chasing smugglers through jungles this is

00:17:55.420 about chasing china and russia out of our own backyard it is a quiet strategic and i think if i'm right on

00:18:05.480 this a brilliant reset because if trump succeeds historians are going to look back at this time and call it for

00:18:15.220 what it truly is the second monroe doctrine the moment america stopped apologizing for defending

00:18:22.560 its own hemisphere and begin rebegan rebuilding its own sovereignty trump believes in a strong america

00:18:32.440 america first that doesn't mean we're going to leave every other country alone it just means we have to do

00:18:37.760 the things that we have to do to make sure that we are strong enough and strengthen the countries

00:18:44.560 around us as well and the countries that we have been protecting all these years give them the impetus

00:18:50.680 and also the um also the ability to come together in their own regions and rebuild and and protect

00:19:00.200 their own sovereignty one barrel one chip one border at a time now i have been warning you about

00:19:08.440 five thousand dollar gold forever and there are two ways this gold rush could go let me give you one way

00:19:18.120 that it could go and then after spending a few days talking some to some people who think differently

00:19:27.100 and saying i don't understand what's happening here because everything would tell me that this is a

00:19:35.000 flight to safety which i believe it is

00:19:37.120 but it is the central banks that are buying up most of this gold

00:19:43.900 and it's the west so are they getting away from america or something else happening

00:19:50.040 so there's two ways the gold story goes really really badly

00:19:54.800 or is it something strategic again from the trump administration and the reason why i'm on this is

00:20:04.640 because i i sent an email to the office of besant and i said okay i'm kind of freaking out about

00:20:11.420 five thousand dollar an ounce gold what's happening no comment just sent a story to me

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00:20:24.220 at first i didn't understand what is he trying to tell me here i want to share with you what i think

00:20:33.540 i'm getting on gold and it actually like the drug war thing when you reframe it and you're looking at

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00:22:06.840 10 seconds and then back to the show

00:22:08.760 before i get to gold uh i just asked jason buttrell to sit in here for just a second

00:22:21.980 what are your thoughts on tying this all together what are your thoughts on you think this is right

00:22:29.200 or wrong on what's happening with the drug war i think you're 100 correct and i think it goes a lot

00:22:35.320 lot lot deeper with what you know just the machinations of china and what they're doing uh

00:22:41.240 2027 2027 is when they say they're going to invade taiwan i have heard that from congressmen

00:22:49.060 probably three or four years ago look to 2027 and i didn't realize this until recently that 2027

00:22:57.220 is what china said always take people at their word when they say we're going to kill you

00:23:01.100 take them at their word 2027 is the year they say they say they are going to be ready to take taiwan

00:23:07.640 right yeah and i think it's interesting that you you're talking about the monroe doctrine because if

00:23:12.160 you look at the original intent of the monroe doctrine one of the things that they said when they

00:23:16.980 established it was you know almost a direct quote but not exactly the age of european

00:23:22.620 colonization is over in this hemisphere the old world the european world does not fit it's not

00:23:29.180 compatible with the new world the united states now we're kind of saying the same thing quietly but

00:23:35.920 directed at asia directed at china you know you will no longer colonize you know places like south

00:23:43.620 america i mean venezuela has been described as a quote foothold a strategic partnership if we if china

00:23:51.760 goes in to taiwan we cannot we cannot have a uh a region here off our coast that is not completely

00:24:02.900 secure um because then we're fighting here at the homeland or you know in the gulf of america if you

00:24:09.340 will trying to push china back there as they are trying to push the taiwanese out of their country we've

00:24:16.340 got to shore this up um we have more on what i think trump is doing looking at a looking at his

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00:26:03.240 okay before i start this on gold i want to ask you

00:26:19.500 what is donald trump does donald is donald trump a guy who likes to cut the the spending no he believes

00:26:28.740 in debt right but what he believes in more than debt is growing the bottom line so you grow your

00:26:37.260 way out of things so keep that in in in mind as i'm trying to make sense of gold and what i'm going

00:26:45.180 to share with you is just a theory i think i might be right on this but i don't know okay gold is

00:26:53.640 rocketing you know it's it's now almost what is it 43 or 4400 an ounce today and i've always told

00:27:02.560 you you don't want to see a world with five thousand dollar an ounce gold that is when five thousand

00:27:07.560 dollar an ounce happens um that means the trust is going away for the financial system and the financial

00:27:14.880 markets the dollar is starting to uh weaken and the the world is sending a signal we don't trust

00:27:23.920 any of this anymore now that may be true that may be true but let me take you to another place

00:27:32.980 because maybe something that is happening that doesn't fit that script because you're dealing

00:27:39.220 with something new you're dealing with donald trump so i think behind all of it there is a new strategy

00:27:49.980 that is taking shape in washington congress you know doesn't have the stomach to cut any of the spending

00:27:57.360 um and donald trump believes the opposite grow your way out okay so that's a recipe for deficit that is

00:28:06.000 really quite frightening but there is someone and i think it's besant who is finding a way to pull

00:28:14.220 down the deficit without the usual political bloodshed one of the misunderstood tools in that

00:28:23.060 strategy is something that you're going to be amazed that it hasn't happened before it is the revaluation

00:28:31.040 of gold right now the government values its gold reserves we have 260 million troy ounces that's what

00:28:40.720 they say officially we might have none but we have 260 million troy ounces but we only value it at 35

00:28:50.360 an ounce why because that's the price fdr in the 1930s set gold at and said it's worth 35 an ounce

00:29:00.700 that hasn't changed so on paper that means the government all of our gold that we have on paper

00:29:08.080 the whole gold hoard is only worth nine billion dollars so okay so wait a minute but the market

00:29:15.980 price today is almost forty five hundred dollars which would make that nine billion actually worth

00:29:21.380 1.1 trillion dollars now think about that the united states is sitting on a trillion dollar asset

00:29:28.600 and we don't even count it why does this matter i want you to think of your home imagine you're going

00:29:38.500 into a bank and you want to go buy a car okay and you have your salary and you're in debt uh and you're

00:29:45.620 just barely making it but your home on paper has only been valued at five thousand dollars because

00:29:53.120 when your parents bought it all those years ago it was five thousand dollars you know and and now

00:29:58.700 you're sitting here and it hasn't changed in value it has in reality but you're still counting it as

00:30:05.260 the bank and saying yeah well my grandfather and my father paid five thousand dollars for this

00:30:09.300 and so it's worth five thousand dollars you know the bank would know no it's not it's worth a million

00:30:16.700 dollars today what changes if this is called mark to market this is a usual thing you mark the price

00:30:26.280 to what the market value is your price of your house goes down you are poorer on paper because the value

00:30:34.420 of your house has gone down and it's marked to market if your price if the price has gone from

00:30:40.900 35 an ounce to 4500 an ounce then you mark to market and everything changes suddenly if that's

00:30:50.900 your house five thousand to a million dollars now you can buy that new car the bank you walk into the

00:30:56.160 bank and you're like i'm going to buy a fifty thousand dollar car and they're like well let me

00:30:59.360 see your assets and you're like oh well you have a house that's been paid off and it's worth a million

00:31:02.900 dollars where yesterday it was worth five thousand dollars today it's worth a million dollars because

00:31:07.440 it's actually worth that if you sold it and so the bank goes like oh you're fine you're fine yeah

00:31:13.160 sure here's 50 grand go buy that car suddenly your profile looks different overnight okay that is what

00:31:22.320 i believe is coming in america i believe they're going to revalue gold that without raising taxes

00:31:30.340 without cutting a single program it would instantly improve the nation's balance sheet our debt to

00:31:36.980 asset ratio would shift dramatically have you noticed in the last year everybody's like

00:31:41.240 their debt to uh their debt to um uh asset ratio is way out of whack and they're now 125 percent

00:31:49.640 whatever it is okay that would change the dollar would legitimately appear to be stronger and the

00:31:57.740 deficit at least on paper would shrink now add to that again what donald trump believes and you may

00:32:06.780 not agree with it but he believes i can grow the economy so you combine that with the h1b visa fees

00:32:14.300 you do the tariffs expected uh you know to bring in money and then also the expected eight to twelve

00:32:23.440 trillion dollars in foreign capital investments that are flowing into the united states if all of that is

00:32:30.020 real suddenly the picture doesn't look quite so desperate because it looks like we are growing

00:32:38.360 again and we actually would be growing again the debt doesn't shrink by cutting it shrinks by growing

00:32:45.520 it shrinks by growing the economy and expanding the economy beneath it that's trump's mark that's

00:32:56.500 always what he's believed in so while i've been sitting here going you don't want five thousand

00:33:00.760 dollar gold you don't but it also might be a good thing let me give you this there's more

00:33:08.580 washington is floating the idea and mike lee got hammered for this but this is a besant idea mike lee is

00:33:19.000 floating the idea of selling off portions of vast federal portfolio we have all this land these are not

00:33:26.200 national parks you know we have millions of acres of unproductive and unused territory

00:33:33.600 i have known this from central bankers for 20 years that they actually have said we should sell the

00:33:42.340 national parks you know how much national i don't want you selling the national parks what are you

00:33:45.860 talking about no we're not selling the national parks but that's not what they're talking about

00:33:50.800 they're talking about cutting the inefficiency out of every department and and taking land that is

00:33:59.340 unusable and sellable that the government is holding and doesn't need to hold selling that land okay

00:34:07.280 which would allow us to build more houses expand etc etc uh and and increase the bottom line on the

00:34:16.480 ballot sheet suddenly with all of this the pressure valves are opened up okay also put in here nobody

00:34:27.860 seems to be panicking about the government shutdown and what is the government shutdown doing what is

00:34:33.900 besant hoping he gets an opportunity to do cut so now you're expanding with gold the possibility of

00:34:44.600 selling federal land at some point you're bringing in 12 trillion dollars of investment you're getting

00:34:51.640 the raw earth minerals from venezuela and and from south america and elsewhere in the world you've solved

00:34:59.820 our military peace problem we're no longer the world's policemen so we're not having to do all of

00:35:05.300 that stuff which is a drain on blood and treasure all of a sudden you're starting to see that america

00:35:13.220 is actually shoring itself up so what looks like chaos right now may actually be a controlled implosion

00:35:23.260 of a broken system because remember this is exactly what the left was going to do the left through the

00:35:29.980 wef and the great reset they wanted to implode the system but they had a safety net that we were going

00:35:36.400 to fall into and that was a global world order donald trump doesn't believe in the global world order

00:35:41.460 but he does believe we are in trouble he knows that he has a different idea i think we might be seeing

00:35:51.200 a re-anchoring of america's finances in hard assets real productivity and if besant and the president can

00:36:02.180 pull this off we may be watching the birth of a of the the building of a of a new foundation of a new

00:36:09.680 financial order one where you know we're we're re-grounding ourself in in value that's actually

00:36:18.500 real it's dangerous if confidence breaks if the terrorists who are already here thank you joe biden

00:36:28.160 manage to disrupt the perception of reality if we start having you know real trouble on our streets

00:36:36.560 and we go unstable then the illusion flips the re the revaluation becomes a revelation that even gold

00:36:45.580 cannot cover the sins of a government that has just not paid attention for this this long and you know

00:36:51.180 there's no pretending that but if we can hold together this fragile unity in our country long enough

00:37:00.020 and they can revalue the system and rejigger the system keep your eye on gold it may be the canary in

00:37:08.840 the coal mine it may be this is real trouble but remember not every alarm means disaster it's how you

00:37:16.780 react to it i would have told you four years ago and i did when we said we're gonna we're gonna kick

00:37:24.220 russia and china off the swift system that's a really bad idea because you have no plan you have

00:37:30.280 no replacement for the swift system you're now taking the assets of a sovereign country and saying

00:37:36.000 yeah we can do that that will drive the price of the dollar down people will sell our reserve currencies

00:37:41.700 and the only thing they had as backup was a global new financial order that none of us wanted

00:37:49.980 notice we're not talking about cbdc's we're talking about gold this government is talking

00:37:59.300 donald trump is talking about rebalancing and growing not a global world order

00:38:05.780 so it could be that the price of gold is you know just a fire that could burn out of control

00:38:15.300 as it would have just a few years ago and it still may but it also may be that the rise in gold and

00:38:25.880 what's happening with donald trump is a backfire is a you know when you when you set fire in a forest fire

00:38:34.800 and you burn back into it to put it out this may be a fire that we are setting that could put all of

00:38:42.520 this out it may this heat may actually forge something new because i think there's real

00:38:49.920 strategy here when you look at what i talked to you about a minute ago why are we bombing those boats

00:38:56.800 that's strategy for something bigger that's not that's not a war on drugs it's not that's strategy for

00:39:05.560 something bigger knowing that he's resetting the entire world knowing that he likes the revaluation

00:39:13.360 of things and he likes to grow the asset sheet knowing he's not a dummy

00:39:22.160 knowing that he wants to keep america's sovereignty true

00:39:28.720 gold will tell the story whether it's collapse or america's rebirth one way or another we're going

00:39:39.880 to know soon we're going to know soon watch gold all right more in just a second

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00:43:15.540 told you about the revaluation of uh gold i mean that is almost a nuclear option um but we i think

00:43:22.920 donald trump is somebody who you know he just rebuilt the nuclear arsenal he's he will use it

00:43:29.080 if he has to he doesn't want to um and when it comes to reevaluation of gold um before the dollar

00:43:37.740 would collapse uh he would do these kinds of things but it has to happen in conjunction with several

00:43:43.180 other things because it would cause additional short-term problems and possibly long-term problems

00:43:48.760 if the world viewed that as uh we're defaulting on debt we're just we're just inflating our money

00:43:57.260 to pay off debt then that would be a very very bad thing yeah very bad thing because what he could do

00:44:03.660 is say all dollars now he could go back to the gold standard dollars now are backed by gold you know

00:44:09.940 another approach that we could try here i'm just going to throw this out there is uh spend what we have

00:44:14.420 spend within our means uh maybe have a government that's a of the size that makes some rational

00:44:21.040 sense but do you know of anybody who's doing that no try to get the republicans to do it try to get

00:44:25.960 the democrats to do it nobody's going to do it unfortunately no but i do think it's it's worth

00:44:30.520 considering it is the answer yeah but when the answer to a is always no what other options do you have

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00:49:44.140 So we're all looking for answers. And, you know, one of the things I'm basing,

00:49:51.580 I'm changing in my life is I have always thought big. And I have, I've always had big vision on

00:50:00.620 things. And it's allowed me to do the things that I have done in my life. If you believe it,

00:50:06.720 if you can see it and you can see it finished, it will happen. You just keep moving forward.

00:50:12.980 But I think I need to change that to some degree. I still need to dream big. We all need to dream big,

00:50:19.120 but we have to start thinking small. When you think small, you can see the little things right

00:50:25.840 in front of you that can, that you can change that will make the difference in your life and

00:50:31.840 eventually make the difference in your family's life and your country's life. Okay. So think

00:50:36.900 small, dream big, see this big vision that you want, but then think small. Okay. So let's go to

00:50:44.920 the smallest thing, something we all learned as we were kids. What is the solution to fixing our country?

00:50:51.660 Let me take this line by line. I pledge allegiance. Those first three words, that's a solemn

00:51:01.820 vow. Okay. That's, that's not a casual statement. It is a binding promise. You are pledging

00:51:10.140 allegiance and allegiance is more than just an agreement. It is loyalty. It means I choose

00:51:17.560 to stand. I'm going to stand here. I'm going to stand with, I'm going to defend, and I'm going to

00:51:23.800 uphold something. I pledge more than a promise. I pledge allegiance and I'm going to do it even

00:51:31.720 when it's hard, even when it costs me. I pledge allegiance. That is not lip service. That is a

00:51:38.380 declaration of devotion to the flag. The flag is not just cloth and stitching, and you are not

00:51:49.280 pledging your allegiance to that piece of cloth. You're, you're pledging your allegiance to the flag,

00:51:56.200 which is the embodiment of an idea. It is a visual representation of the nation itself. When I pledge

00:52:04.060 my allegiance to the flag, I am pledging not to the fabric, but to the principles, the history,

00:52:10.320 and the sacrifices that that flag represents. Every fold, every star, every stripe is a reminder of

00:52:18.400 lives given, dreams pursued, and a promise kept through centuries of struggle. I pledge allegiance

00:52:26.840 to the flag of the United States of America. We look at the United States of America now and you see

00:52:35.760 that kind of just as words on a map. The United States. That's not what the United States is. That

00:52:42.080 was never what, what it was designed to be. Okay. The United States means separate sovereign states

00:52:51.320 that has joined this union by choice into one Republic. It reminds us that our strength is not

00:52:59.740 found in our diversity. It's nor is it found in our uniformity. It is found in our unity,

00:53:07.800 the United States of America. That's diverse people, diverse cultures, diverse communities

00:53:16.020 that are all bound and share the principles of liberty and law. America is not just a place.

00:53:24.860 We have to reframe this. It's not a place. It's not a map. It's a covenant between free people

00:53:31.460 in individual states to, to build something greater together than any of us could do by ourselves or as

00:53:40.260 a single state, maybe except for Texas, but that's a different story. And to the Republic for which it

00:53:47.420 stands, this line is crucial. We are not a democracy because a democracy always devolves into mob rule.

00:53:59.580 Okay. We are a Republic for a reason. And what a Republic means is that you are governed by law,

00:54:06.860 not whims. It means our rights are, are not subject to popular vote. They are endowed by our creator

00:54:15.460 and protected by a constitutional system designed to guard them even from the passions of the majority.

00:54:24.280 And the flag stands for that system, the balance of our liberty and order.

00:54:32.800 One nation, one, not fractured by reason, a region, not fractured by race, not fractured by ideology,

00:54:44.560 not red states and blue states, but one single nation made up of 50 sovereign states, all different.

00:54:54.280 This is a reminder that despite our differences, we share a common destiny, a common goal.

00:55:02.880 We rise together, we fall together. And that oneness is not automatic. That oneness has to be chosen

00:55:10.700 by each generation, by each citizen and defended and renewed by every generation. One nation under God.

00:55:21.220 People will try to make this all about a theocracy. It's not about a theocracy. This is humility.

00:55:30.520 This is a humble admission that our freedom and our rights come from a source higher than government.

00:55:37.760 Therefore, they cannot be taken away or changed by government because the government doesn't have

00:55:44.840 the power. They're not issuing the rights. They can't control the rights. They can't take the

00:55:50.520 rights away or add new rights. Those all are issued by a power greater than man and certainly greater

00:55:58.260 than government. It's a reminder also in humility that power must be restrained, that we are accountable

00:56:08.320 to more than just ourselves. It's the acknowledgement that liberty without virtue will collapse and that virtue

00:56:19.680 requires something greater than yourself or greater than man.

00:56:24.760 One nation, indivisible. When I was a kid, I always thought it was invisible. And I was like,

00:56:35.280 I don't think it is, but indivisible. This is not a description. This is a challenge. And one that we have

00:56:45.560 forgotten. Indivisible means we don't allow hatred. We don't allow division. We don't allow ideology or

00:56:55.200 faith to rip us apart. It means that even when we disagree fiercely, we hold on to the bonds that we

00:57:04.140 have all chosen as individual sovereign people and sovereign states to bind us together. We hold on to

00:57:12.200 those bonds that make us one people. We don't secede from one another. We do the hard work of staying

00:57:19.880 united because division is the surest path to tyranny. With liberty. This one's gotten so screwed up over

00:57:31.160 the years. Everybody thinks freedom means, I don't know, freedom to do whatever you want. Liberty is not

00:57:37.580 license. It's not doing whatever you want whenever you want. It is the freedom to live by conscience, to speak

00:57:47.800 truth, to pursue happiness without coercion. It's freedom that has been purchased with blood and preserved with

00:57:57.700 vigilance. It's the foundation that everything else stands on. All other rights stand on that. And it

00:58:07.460 must be exercised responsibly or it will be lost. We are not exercising it responsibly. That's why we're

00:58:16.440 having so many problems. We misunderstand liberty and justice. The next line. Justice is not revenge,

00:58:26.340 be it the Democrats or the Republicans, be it Joe Biden or Donald Trump. It's not revenge. It's not

00:58:36.220 equity or equality of equity or equality of outcomes. That's not justice. Justice is the fair and

00:58:45.500 impartial application of the law. Blind to wealth, to power, to politics. Justice is the glue that holds

00:58:55.860 liberty with responsibility together. And without it, without justice, freedom devolves into chaos.

00:59:03.580 justice. With it, even the weakest among us are protected. That should be the goal for all of us is that

00:59:12.700 kind of justice. And the final two words are the most radical. For all. They're also the most difficult.

00:59:24.000 For all. Not just those who look like me. Not those who think like me. Not those who go to my church or

00:59:33.440 don't believe in God. Not just those who vote like me. Not just for the deserving. The ones who followed

00:59:42.220 the rules with COVID. They got the shot. No. Not those who are popular. Liberty and justice are promises

00:59:51.880 extended to every soul. Because the worth of this nation is not measured by how it treats the

01:00:01.100 powerful. How it treats the popular. But how it treats the least among us. The most despised. The poorest.

01:00:09.560 The most invisible.

01:00:10.680 As a kid, I said the Pledge of Allegiance a million times. I still say it. But I don't think any of us

01:00:24.140 think of each word and why it's there. It's not a poem. You're not reciting a poem. You are making a

01:00:31.020 personal commitment. And this is the solution to fixing our country. You want to fix the country,

01:00:40.680 there's the grand dream, right? There's the big dream. How? When you think small, think every single

01:00:50.140 line of the Pledge of Allegiance. Because that's the answer. No matter how you voted, if you believe

01:00:58.920 in those lines and understand what each line and each word means and why it was chosen, now you can make

01:01:06.400 a personal commitment. You can make the commitment to defend liberty when it's under threat. To pursue

01:01:11.660 justice when it's inconvenient. To remain united when division is much easier and much more popular.

01:01:22.580 To place principle above party and creator above state.

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01:03:11.160 Well, let me say hello to Stu Bergeer, our executive producer. Hello, Stu.

01:03:27.100 Thanks, Glenn. I pledge allegiance to the flag.

01:03:28.960 Thank you very much. You mean the actual flag, though, not the whole, yeah.

01:03:32.320 Oh, I don't care about what you said.

01:03:33.540 Don't you burn that flag.

01:03:34.760 No.

01:03:35.160 Yeah, yeah.

01:03:36.460 That's an interesting thing, because you do kind of, I mean, you listen to those kids at

01:03:40.000 the beginning of the monologue, and there is a bit of just, you're just reciting it.

01:03:46.060 Well, listen, play that again, Sarah. Listen, it's almost a song. At this age, they've almost

01:03:52.160 memorized it as a song. Listen.

01:03:53.600 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

01:04:05.320 But that's how we all, that's how I remember saying it back in the day.

01:04:08.260 Me too.

01:04:08.620 Do they, does that happen at all anymore? Do they still do that at school?

01:04:12.580 I don't know.

01:04:16.500 I don't know.

01:04:17.980 You know, my kids go to a private school, and they do, they do it there.

01:04:21.400 Yeah, mine did too, and so they did it there.

01:04:23.220 But I don't, I don't know if public school does it anymore.

01:04:25.660 I mean, I will tell you, I was just talking to Patriot Mobile the other day.

01:04:28.880 You know, I think they, what was it? Gosh, it was some crazy number.

01:04:32.000 10,000, 30,000, I don't remember.

01:04:33.580 10 commandments were put in all of these schools all across Texas, and a lot of it was done by Patriot Mobile.

01:04:44.340 They just paid for it, the state passed a law.

01:04:47.440 If they're presented to classrooms, and they fit this description, they have to be this big and everything else,

01:04:55.340 they have to be posted in every classroom.

01:04:57.660 So Patriot Mobile took all their, some of their profits, and they just printed up all of these 10 commandments,

01:05:04.700 and put them on all the schools, public schools.

01:05:07.520 Texas is changing.

01:05:08.900 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:05:09.720 Yeah, Texas is changing.

01:05:10.920 Now, you know, the textbooks are going to take until 2031, I think.

01:05:17.560 You're changing, they're changing textbooks now, but it won't be in print and in the classrooms until 2031.

01:05:23.140 That seems like a long way away.

01:05:24.600 Yeah, luckily, school choice is coming before that, and hopefully will be expanded massively before that.

01:05:33.360 It's in a lot of states now.

01:05:35.460 So, you know, whether you, you know, because it's been difficult for parents at times to choose public school

01:05:40.840 because of all the financial concerns, or private school because of the financial concerns associated with it.

01:05:45.500 That's changing, too, across the country in a big way.

01:05:48.440 You know, again, lots of negatives went along with COVID, but this is one of the positives that came along with it.

01:05:54.860 Their parents woke up, and they shook up their governments to make sure that they could make the choices for their own kids.

01:05:59.580 We had our big Mercury One fundraiser this last weekend, and Linda McMahon came.

01:06:05.540 She was sitting at my table right next to me.

01:06:07.420 And we were talking about schools and, you know, these radical unions.

01:06:12.760 And she's like, I said, so what can we do in the unions?

01:06:16.960 And she said, I don't know, private schools, school choice.

01:06:22.060 That's the fastest way.

01:06:23.860 She's like, that's why they hate private schools, because you don't have to have, you know, you don't have to have the union in private schools.

01:06:33.180 And she said, you know, keeping states free where you can, you know, choose not to be in a union.

01:06:41.780 She's like, that's another big thing that can happen.

01:06:45.880 But dismantling the schools and dismantling the overwhelming influence of the teachers' unions is going to take a while.

01:06:59.400 And it's being dismantled one little bit at a time.

01:07:02.560 But if we can get school choice, and it's happening here in Texas now, you get that done, and it changes almost everything in a very, very good way.

01:07:12.680 Yeah, I can't stand the teachers' unions.

01:07:15.000 I hate them.

01:07:15.720 Many of the teachers are wonderful people.

01:07:17.600 Yes.

01:07:17.980 The teachers' unions, pretty awful.

01:07:20.040 Like, I saw a story that, and we can get into it maybe later, but it was described as an agreement between the government

01:07:26.620 and the American Federation of Teachers.

01:07:31.580 And that's, I always, I feel like, does not lead to good outcomes.

01:07:35.860 No, it does not.

01:07:36.400 I don't think that we can all be happy about agreements.

01:07:40.360 No.

01:07:40.780 But I don't, if it doesn't lead to a positive outcome, then I'm not for agreements.

01:07:46.580 Same way I'm not for bipartisanship when it leads to slop.

01:07:51.580 Okay, good.

01:07:53.000 And that happens often with bipartisanship.

01:07:55.360 It sounds so wonderful, but it usually leads to crap.

01:07:58.900 All right, I want to talk to you a little bit about the AI bubble when we come back.

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01:09:55.580 The AI bubble, is it a bubble, is it not a bubble?

01:10:00.060 I don't know.

01:10:00.940 Are we close to AGI or not close to AGI?

01:10:05.140 Again, I don't know.

01:10:07.840 Is it going to change things?

01:10:09.540 Yes, I saw a story.

01:10:10.600 It's in our show prep today.

01:10:11.580 I'm not going to have a chance to get it, but you should read it.

01:10:14.000 It's about other countries that are building these giant server farms, and they're not getting, I mean, their electricity and their water is being shut off because all of it's being diverted to these big server farms.

01:10:25.060 And if we're not careful, that's exactly what's going to happen to us.

01:10:28.300 Peter Atwater is a guy that Stu and I have been talking about for a while because he's comparing this AI bubble.

01:10:33.740 He's like, look, I want to just show you a chart, and I'm not smart enough to figure out the chart, but let me just show you the chart.

01:10:39.080 And now let me show you a chart I did like in 2007 or 2008 with the housing bubble.

01:10:45.000 Well, they kind of look exactly the same, and it's a little frightening.

01:10:49.200 Peter is with us now, Peter Atwater from the College of William & Mary.

01:10:52.320 He's an adjunct lecturer there.

01:10:54.420 He's the guy who coined the term K-shape recovery.

01:10:58.140 Welcome to the program.

01:10:58.940 How are you, sir?

01:11:00.500 I'm great, Glenn.

01:11:01.420 Thanks very much for having me.

01:11:02.800 You bet.

01:11:03.120 Okay, so can you explain the housing – not the housing bubble, the AI bubble?

01:11:11.140 Do you believe it is, and if so, why, and what does that mean?

01:11:16.660 I do believe it is, and I study confidence and its impact on what we do.

01:11:22.440 And so what I see in the AI bubble is a lot of similarities to what we saw during the housing bubble, where everybody wants to be involved.

01:11:32.400 There's a social frenzy to it.

01:11:34.940 There's a want to, you know, make a lot of money, to see the opportunity in it.

01:11:40.800 There's a lot of speculation.

01:11:42.200 And what matters so much to me as a researcher is that this network that existed in the housing bubble, where mortgages were sliced and diced, and you had these conveyor belts that moved everything from, you know, mom and pop's house to folks all over the world,

01:12:03.940 now exists within the AI system, where you have enormous amounts of capital moving, but also equipment.

01:12:13.400 So it looks a lot like the just-in-time network that we saw stumble during COVID.

01:12:20.520 Okay, that doesn't make me happy.

01:12:22.300 But there's a difference between the housing bubble, where it was all being inflated and resold and repackaged, and this, which does seem to be a game-changer on productivity.

01:12:35.420 Where housing was not, this seems to be like it could be a real game-changer for economies.

01:12:43.080 Agree or disagree?

01:12:44.940 Oh, there's no question it'll be a game-changer.

01:12:48.580 But we can think about it the same way we said dot-com was going to be a game-changer, like railroads and, you know, all of these other things that we have in terms of speculative manias.

01:13:00.320 There's real productivity, real improvement that comes from it.

01:13:03.960 But what happens is that investors anticipate it happening far sooner, in far larger scale, and much more profitably than it ever does.

01:13:15.280 So what are you predicting?

01:13:19.380 How is this going to happen?

01:13:22.480 What's a bad case scenario, not necessarily worse?

01:13:25.940 I don't know if I can handle worse.

01:13:27.260 Bad case scenario and realistic scenarios.

01:13:30.400 So, to me, the realistic scenario is that valuations come down dramatically.

01:13:38.380 At the same time, the build-out continues at a much lower pace.

01:13:44.680 And eventually, maybe a decade from now, it all settles out.

01:13:49.420 But in the meantime, there's a lot of financial pain that's going to go along with it, particularly because today, more than 40% of the S&P 500 ties to AI.

01:14:06.360 Like seven companies, right?

01:14:07.440 Seven companies and the ones that are closest to them, so that, you know, retirees, pension plans, you know, folks that invest in index funds have a supersized allocation to AI, whether they realize it or not.

01:14:25.280 Can you give me an example of this happening in history that's not housing, but more industry?

01:14:31.620 Sure, you can go back to radio in the 20s.

01:14:37.140 I mean, RCA was a mammoth weight in the markets because people were incredibly excited about it.

01:14:46.600 You saw, you know, you can go back even further to canals.

01:14:49.980 I mean, we love new technology, particularly where we can identify the efficiencies that we see coming from it.

01:14:59.020 One of the things that is really interesting about the charts you've highlighted, Peter, is this sort of circuitous relationship between these companies, where like, just to try to, it's too complicated to go through all of it.

01:15:12.120 But just to give you one quick relationship here, and tell me if I'm understanding this right.

01:15:17.180 OpenAI, of course, buys a bunch of chips from NVIDIA.

01:15:20.780 They're spending a ton of money with NVIDIA.

01:15:23.000 NVIDIA is investing $100 billion into OpenAI.

01:15:26.420 OpenAI has a $300 billion cloud deal with Oracle.

01:15:33.000 Oracle is spending tens of billions of dollars in chips with NVIDIA.

01:15:37.600 And then NVIDIA is investing into OpenAI.

01:15:40.120 And like, there's a bunch of these arrows that are just pointing in these circular directions where it seems like these same companies are just flowing money back and forth to each other in all these arrangements.

01:15:49.960 And you wonder if there's any disruption here, are we looking at some sort of at least short-term collapse of all of this stuff?

01:15:57.560 The dog-eating-its-tail phenomenon is extraordinary here.

01:16:05.920 And what's so unusual about this one is, in prior bubbles, the conveyor belts were among smaller participants.

01:16:16.300 But in this one, we have the largest technology companies in the world spinning money around among themselves.

01:16:24.780 It looks like one of those Escher drawings where the waterfall just keeps moving in perpetuity.

01:16:29.940 And the challenge, particularly given that OpenAI is at the center of it, is that this is a company that is barely profitable, that is committing to hundreds of billions of dollars in commitments.

01:16:45.380 So what does it look like if it starts to fall apart?

01:16:49.160 And what are the signs we should be watching for?

01:16:52.340 So what we know right now is that everybody wants to be affiliated with AI in some way.

01:17:03.880 And so you end up with these late arrivals to the party.

01:17:09.000 And typically when a bubble bursts, the last guy to the party is among the first to leave.

01:17:16.320 So we could think about this in the context of the mortgage bubble, where it was the subprime lenders who showed up right at the tail end and then collapsed first.

01:17:28.680 So I'm watching to see these companies that are barely AI-related, that have tried to position themselves as being AI industry leaders,

01:17:41.460 who are likely to fail in the not-too-distant future.

01:17:45.520 They just need rarefied air to exist.

01:17:48.480 Like what companies?

01:17:51.620 I don't have specific names to throw out there, but they're typically smaller, highly leveraged, offering very, very compelling but untested technology.

01:18:06.220 Now, this would be, I mean, if it collapses, I mean, that would be horrific for our economy.

01:18:14.880 But also, what happens with the race with China?

01:18:20.440 I mean, China is deeper into this than we are, like crazy.

01:18:26.960 How does this affect China?

01:18:29.360 What happens to the race?

01:18:31.060 How does, I mean, how does this not move forward?

01:18:36.220 So I am by no means a China expert, but I would expect that if our confidence in AI begins to fall, confidence in AI more broadly will come under question.

01:18:50.820 So they then face questions in terms of policymaker credibility in terms of why did you commit so much to this?

01:19:02.420 No difference than a CEO faces that test when a bubble bursts.

01:19:06.740 So what does success look like to you?

01:19:09.860 Because I'm not sure.

01:19:12.160 I had a really fascinating conversation a couple of weeks ago, and he's going to come on the show in a couple of weeks with Max Tegmark, who is brilliant AI ethicist.

01:19:22.940 And we were talking about ASI, AGI, and he believes that that may not be happening, and he makes a great case on this.

01:19:32.940 But is that the goal?

01:19:34.740 Or, I mean, because what is the goal that we're not going to hit that would fall short that would cause this kind of stuff?

01:19:43.280 So I think we tend to fall short in terms of immediate usage, so volume short, but also profitability.

01:19:55.280 You know, if you go back to the dot-com bubble and companies like Pets.com, I mean, they all imagine this huge, you know, pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

01:20:07.440 And you're seeing the same wild fascination with the potential profitability for AI.

01:20:15.780 And, again, that may come, but it's unlikely to come at the speed and magnitude that people now expect.

01:20:24.080 I mean, we're fantasizing now.

01:20:26.740 Boy, I mean, in a way, that would be really, really good because, you know, what I worry about is AI advancing as quickly as everybody says it is.

01:20:35.960 And then what happens to all of the jobs so quickly?

01:20:38.480 I mean, you just can't absorb that kind of an impact if it happens that fast.

01:20:42.220 So I don't know which is better.

01:20:44.940 So typically we'll see a backlash against new technology.

01:20:49.260 I mean, if you go back to the, you know, the 1920 bubble burst and you saw this backlash to, you know, innovative technologies like the vacuum and, you know, the ironing board and all these things that people were saying took jobs away.

01:21:03.320 And we'll have that same thing in all likelihood.

01:21:06.360 And this time, too, to the point you made earlier, likely compounded by a greater awareness of the environmental consequences of this and also the cost that it creates to the average consumer in terms of their utility bills.

01:21:22.080 Can you explain one more thing?

01:21:25.200 Because you're the guy who invented the K-shape and Stu and I were talking about this earlier.

01:21:28.800 I don't understand the K-shape recovery.

01:21:31.060 Can you explain that?

01:21:32.000 K-shape recovery?

01:21:34.040 Sure.

01:21:34.680 So when COVID hit, I immediately saw that if you were a white-collar worker who could work from home, your confidence improved immediately.

01:21:45.800 Whereas if you were a, you know, somebody who worked in a warehouse or stock shelves in the supermarket or a hospital worker, your confidence didn't start to improve for a long time.

01:21:58.600 And from that, what I've seen is that the economy that results from these two different tracks of confidence are vastly different.

01:22:10.200 And today, those at the top, whether it's because of the markets or because of corporate earnings growth, those at the top feel invulnerable.

01:22:21.200 And they're spending like it.

01:22:23.120 They're investing like it.

01:22:24.480 They're living like it.

01:22:25.520 They're living like there's no tomorrow.

01:22:27.000 On the other hand, those at the bottom today aren't sure how they're going to make it through the day.

01:22:33.440 They're delinquent on their car loans.

01:22:35.500 They're now worried about health care costs.

01:22:38.860 And so to me, this K, these divides, has created two classes of Americans.

01:22:45.960 You have the increasingly desperate and those who feel invulnerable.

01:22:51.300 That does not sound stable long term.

01:22:54.140 It doesn't feel stable to me, too.

01:22:57.900 And I worry that those who are in a position to do something about it, we're spending so much of our time in this country fighting between the left and the right.

01:23:08.920 And we're not seeing that our biggest divide is up and down.

01:23:14.000 That those at the bottom, there is a bipartisan hopelessness that exists that I feel like Washington is not paying enough attention to.

01:23:26.840 Boy, I would love to have you back, Peter, and just talk about that and what can be done, what we should be talking about, what we should be doing on that.

01:23:35.680 Because I agree with you.

01:23:36.720 I think that is a really bad problem.

01:23:38.700 Really bad problem.

01:23:40.020 Thank you so much.

01:23:42.040 I appreciate the opportunity, Glenn.

01:23:43.560 Thank you.

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01:26:04.060 Uh, can we play cut three?

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01:26:11.040 Uh, Donald Trump definitively needs to get involved.

01:26:13.280 He needs to get off the sidelines, get off the golf course, and actually decide to end the shutdown that he's created.

01:26:20.500 That he has allowed to happen.

01:26:22.980 We know that House and Senate Republicans don't do anything without getting permission from their boss, Donald J. Trump.

01:26:31.160 And the reason why there have been no negotiations.

01:26:34.020 Zero negotiations.

01:26:35.780 Stop.

01:26:36.560 Uh, I mean, it's just a total joke.

01:26:39.280 He really is.

01:26:40.360 He is the worst Speaker of the House, or, you know, possible next Speaker of the House I've ever seen.

01:26:46.320 He has no juice at all.

01:26:48.920 Yeah, Nancy Pelosi at least had juice.

01:26:51.040 She was terrible in a lot of different ways, but has juice.

01:26:53.760 This guy is just a, he's just a zilch.

01:26:56.080 And, uh, get off the golf course.

01:26:58.640 What?

01:26:59.220 Wait, he's been all over the world.

01:27:00.600 Well, he sometimes does have to get off the golf course when the donors to his party are trying to kill him.

01:27:05.320 That does happen from time to time.

01:27:07.780 Thanks for chipping in there.

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01:29:33.680 So there's a lot going on in the news today.

01:29:36.000 We need to get to, you know, one, they're tearing down the White House.

01:29:39.620 Did you know that?

01:29:40.720 George Washington, he's been taken from his grave.

01:29:43.400 They paraded his bones around and rearranged them into a king crown.

01:29:48.360 I don't even know why.

01:29:49.860 But that's what they did at the White House.

01:29:51.660 And now they're tearing it down and they're dancing on the rubble.

01:29:57.660 Or not.

01:29:58.800 Or it's not exactly what they're telling you it is.

01:30:01.720 It's the most incredible.

01:30:04.460 I mean, you have Chachi PT.

01:30:07.020 It's not hard to find out the history of something.

01:30:11.780 You don't even need a book.

01:30:13.420 You don't need to call a library.

01:30:14.960 You don't need to look anything up.

01:30:16.380 You just go, Chachi PT, where was the White House built?

01:30:20.420 What happened with the West Wing and the East Wing?

01:30:23.740 Who built that?

01:30:25.120 And he will tell you, New York Times.

01:30:27.320 But I don't like it.

01:30:30.400 Oh, my gosh.

01:30:31.740 You're morons.

01:30:32.820 It's just more.

01:30:33.820 I'm sorry.

01:30:34.460 This is not what Jesus would do.

01:30:36.480 All right.

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01:32:15.480 We've covered a lot of stuff today.

01:32:17.420 In hour number one, we hit what I call the New Monroe Doctrine,

01:32:21.580 what is really happening in Venezuela.

01:32:24.320 Everybody is talking about, we're just trying to bomb these drug cartels.

01:32:27.780 No, we're not.

01:32:28.680 No, we're not.

01:32:29.900 I have a theory on that, and I think it's much, much, much, much, much different

01:32:33.840 than what everybody says.

01:32:35.120 Also, we've been saying, watch gold.

01:32:37.500 Gold, $5,000 an ounce, really not a good thing.

01:32:40.600 And we're at, what, $4,400, $4,200 today.

01:32:44.240 And it just keeps going.

01:32:46.580 And something just doesn't make sense to me.

01:32:48.940 Um, because I know why that happens, but it's something different is happening.

01:32:56.160 And I tried to explain that in hour number one.

01:32:58.160 If you miss the podcast today, make sure you get the podcast in and, uh, listen to that.

01:33:03.660 Um, now let's, let's talk about a couple of other things.

01:33:09.380 This shutdown.

01:33:10.300 Now, I, for one, am thrilled.

01:33:13.720 My life hasn't changed one iota.

01:33:18.220 No?

01:33:18.880 No.

01:33:19.460 What about all the things that the government does for you?

01:33:22.200 No.

01:33:22.780 Have you, what, no?

01:33:24.120 No.

01:33:24.340 Not a thing?

01:33:24.940 No.

01:33:25.200 Not even a minute of, no.

01:33:27.000 Not a second.

01:33:28.900 Okay, now, there are those people that build things, make things that the government buys,

01:33:34.720 or the government uses, um, and so they're thinking about it because if the companies

01:33:40.260 that are making stuff for the government or the government, you know, you, you live in

01:33:45.660 a place where there's a lot of government workers and you own a restaurant, now all those

01:33:49.220 government workers are not coming into your restaurant, you, you're concerned.

01:33:52.060 Or you have to be, you happen to be a drug dealer in Washington, D.C.

01:33:55.740 You know, I mean, business might be down, you know, uh, if they're not getting, yeah,

01:33:59.920 hookers, big, big, big recession.

01:34:02.880 I would say maybe the great recession going on right now in the hooker industry.

01:34:07.600 Yeah, in Washington, D.C.

01:34:09.080 Um, so, but, you know, so there are some people that are really hurting, but they are, they

01:34:13.340 are one way or another linked to the government.

01:34:16.340 That is a problem we should probably not have.

01:34:19.380 A third of our economy based on the government, if it's only a third now, it might even be higher

01:34:24.400 than that.

01:34:24.560 Do you want it more or less?

01:34:25.720 I just have to, okay.

01:34:26.340 I just like to be less.

01:34:27.160 Okay, less.

01:34:27.520 I like to be less.

01:34:28.320 Interesting.

01:34:28.800 Interesting thought.

01:34:28.880 I'd like it to be like zero.

01:34:31.040 Really?

01:34:31.640 Yeah, yeah.

01:34:32.400 I would like that.

01:34:33.400 That's really low.

01:34:34.140 Federal government.

01:34:34.960 Yeah, I think I could do that.

01:34:36.320 I think I could do that.

01:34:37.460 Uh, anyway, um, uh, so what is happening?

01:34:41.760 This whole thing, this is just this joke between the, uh, the Republicans and the Democrats and

01:34:48.460 the media.

01:34:49.320 Media's not covering it.

01:34:50.540 Media's not covering anybody who's really been hurt.

01:34:52.980 That's a shock.

01:34:53.740 And we should note again how shocking of development that is.

01:34:56.200 We've been through a million of these things.

01:34:58.420 All we get in government shutdowns are stories, sob stories about sad people, single moms,

01:35:05.500 uh, you know, crushed orphans.

01:35:07.880 Children without eyes that can no longer get their eye transplants.

01:35:11.140 Right.

01:35:11.420 Because they, because the government was providing the eye transplants and now all eye transplants

01:35:16.700 have been deleted.

01:35:18.280 So those children are going to be blind forever.

01:35:19.960 Yes.

01:35:20.360 Because of the evil Republicans every single time.

01:35:23.400 And you know what?

01:35:23.880 Maybe it's good.

01:35:24.480 They're blind.

01:35:24.840 So they don't see the destruction of this society.

01:35:27.180 Right.

01:35:27.640 So, so here is, so here is what is, you know, that's puzzling to some people, but that's

01:35:34.180 going to change.

01:35:35.020 Uh, and Stu and I were talking about it.

01:35:36.740 It's going to change in November.

01:35:39.060 Uh, and that may be what the Democrats are waiting for.

01:35:42.820 Yeah.

01:35:43.340 Uh, because the, the healthcare subsidies.

01:35:46.620 So, you know, these were the, the things that we all said we have to do during COVID and

01:35:54.280 then Joe Biden said, Whoa, COVID might last 10 years.

01:35:57.780 And so they just made these subsidies just continue until now.

01:36:02.200 Um, and so these are, these were never part of the system.

01:36:05.100 They were never expected.

01:36:06.320 And now because the government gave them, now people are expecting them.

01:36:10.680 Um, and so your, your, um, your copay and, and your monthly Obama bill is going to go

01:36:20.340 up, but generally where it was, it's going to, you're going to return to where it was.

01:36:25.900 Right.

01:36:26.120 And if just to, again, kind of rewind in history, what we're talking about here is the affordable

01:36:33.440 care act.

01:36:34.720 Yeah.

01:36:35.340 This would be going back affordable to go to the, what they called the affordable

01:36:40.540 care act.

01:36:41.860 The thing they are saying is going to not be affordable is called the affordable care

01:36:48.080 act.

01:36:48.560 They passed it.

01:36:49.840 We dealt with it.

01:36:51.220 We said it sucked.

01:36:52.700 They said it was going to save everything.

01:36:54.620 We went through a long period of time where I believe it sucked at during that time.

01:37:00.320 Our side lost its spine on that point.

01:37:03.040 So they decided to just go along with it.

01:37:05.680 Then everyone got used to the sucky situation that they had.

01:37:09.260 And then COVID hits, COVID hits.

01:37:11.860 We go through, and this is also an important point.

01:37:14.920 We go through COVID, you know, Donald Trump is president at the beginning of that.

01:37:18.760 These subsidies are not included at that time.

01:37:22.320 Then we get into 2021.

01:37:23.860 One, Joe Biden takes over, and then he passes a bill after we've all kind of moved on with

01:37:28.960 our lives, at least in certain states, and decides to pass giant subsidies to say, hey,

01:37:35.620 we'll make your health care more affordable.

01:37:37.500 People go along with it.

01:37:38.520 Why?

01:37:38.860 Because we're in the middle of a pandemic.

01:37:40.460 It's a year.

01:37:41.320 We're just going to do a year.

01:37:42.100 Then the Inflation Reduction Act comes through, and they say, well, no, we're going to do

01:37:47.120 now four more years of this, even though we're already at this point long past COVID in any

01:37:53.260 real sense.

01:37:55.000 Obviously, some people still get it, but you know what I'm saying.

01:37:57.300 Right.

01:37:57.500 And remember the whole thing about the, you know, Inflation Recovery Act or Reduction Act.

01:38:03.460 So that was, that was cloward and pivot.

01:38:06.480 That's collapse the system.

01:38:07.920 That's, that's the, that was the whole point of that thing.

01:38:10.260 Spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, get people addicted and collapse the system.

01:38:14.460 Gave us all of that inflation that we all remember so, so fondly.

01:38:18.200 And it's important to note, the Democrats, when pushing through this ridiculous thing they

01:38:23.880 said was to reduce inflation, then later admit it was a giant green bill and essentially

01:38:28.680 cloward and pivot in disguise, could have put these subsidies in for 10 years or 20 years

01:38:34.960 or 50 years, a hundred years.

01:38:36.800 Instead, they chose four.

01:38:38.760 So they're now expiring as we lead up to a midterm election.

01:38:44.440 Well, what?

01:38:44.940 That's a coincidence.

01:38:45.840 Certainly a coincidence.

01:38:47.660 So we're going to get this increase, which again is going back to their plan, their Affordable

01:38:55.480 Care Act plan.

01:38:56.920 That's what the return is to.

01:38:58.680 But they completely say that this is now, we're used to it.

01:39:02.620 We've had these subsidies for five years.

01:39:04.220 So now any change from those COVID subsidies that were only supposed to be for the pandemic

01:39:08.920 is now this terrible thing that you're doing to people and ruining their health care.

01:39:14.440 But as I was thinking about all of this, and I think you've had these same thoughts.

01:39:19.500 When you think of a strategy and how this whole shutdown is playing out, the media has

01:39:24.380 been very weird about it.

01:39:25.980 They have not covered all the sob stories.

01:39:28.160 They have not created a sense of urgency for the shutdown to end.

01:39:34.420 They're coming.

01:39:34.940 Which is what they always do.

01:39:36.460 Which is weird.

01:39:37.160 And I think, at least my working theory on this, is that the reason for this is November

01:39:42.720 1st is the beginning of the signups for Obamacare to go into 2026.

01:39:50.460 You mean the Affordable Care Act.

01:39:51.660 Yes.

01:39:52.400 They are planning, and this is why they've been setting this baseline, a baseline buzz of we're

01:39:59.760 the people trying to lower your health care costs.

01:40:01.660 That's what the Democrats have been saying.

01:40:03.100 Not with lots of passion to open up the government, because they don't actually want the government

01:40:06.860 opening up yet.

01:40:08.020 What they want is for people to open up their little computers and go to the Obamacare website,

01:40:13.560 assuming it works.

01:40:15.020 And when they get there, to be greeted with four times the amount of cost for some people.

01:40:20.620 We'll see how that actually works out.

01:40:22.340 But higher costs.

01:40:24.260 And then they will say, well, wait a minute.

01:40:26.240 What's going on?

01:40:27.500 Oh, this is what they're fighting about.

01:40:29.880 And it was the Democrats that were trying to help us.

01:40:32.460 And the Republicans were trying to raise our costs.

01:40:35.740 Now, that's a typical partisan battle that Republicans, theoretically, have a really good

01:40:40.760 argument on.

01:40:41.560 We just kind of outlined it.

01:40:42.460 Not that they don't.

01:40:42.860 Yes, they do.

01:40:43.620 No.

01:40:43.860 That it's a ridiculous COVID subsidy, and they should have been talking about this the entire

01:40:47.440 time.

01:40:47.720 No, no, no.

01:40:47.820 Wait, but the Republicans never have a good argument on anything.

01:40:50.320 Well, they have good arguments.

01:40:51.980 Do they use the good arguments as a problem?

01:40:54.200 No.

01:40:54.420 And this does actually tie into what I'm talking about here, because I think the Democrats

01:41:01.380 are doing this with the knowledge that they have already, when this stuff happens, enough

01:41:07.720 Republicans to fold on this issue.

01:41:09.840 I think they already know that they can get enough Republicans, once the anger starts to

01:41:17.580 break out to come to their side and fold, that they're not worried about pushing this forward.

01:41:23.260 They've already either talked to or just highly suspect Republicans will fold on this issue

01:41:28.040 the second it presents itself.

01:41:29.620 We're already seeing cracks before it's happened.

01:41:31.800 And that the end of this game is that we on the right, a bunch of representatives of us on

01:41:41.100 the right, wind up folding to this and giving a COVID-era subsidy, or at least a good chunk

01:41:47.860 of it, to the Democrats in reaction to whatever anger we see in a couple weeks.

01:41:54.200 No, I see.

01:41:54.920 And I, let me, may I politely disagree with you?

01:41:57.340 I think what the Republicans are going to do is they're going to come up with a better

01:42:01.540 plan.

01:42:02.680 They're going to, they're going to cut the Democrats off by the knees and go, see, we

01:42:06.720 told you this wasn't affordable.

01:42:08.420 And that's why we need to change it this way, because it will make it more affordable to

01:42:12.720 have healthcare.

01:42:13.300 We're going to free up the market a little bit, and then you won't have to worry about

01:42:16.360 these, these subsidies at all, because we've, we've, we've presented something that will

01:42:21.560 actually work.

01:42:22.960 Are you M. Night Shyamalan?

01:42:24.300 That is a twist.

01:42:25.200 It is.

01:42:25.480 That's not one I saw coming.

01:42:26.600 That is, that is like, whoa, that never happens.

01:42:30.240 Yeah.

01:42:30.440 Yeah.

01:42:30.700 Because it doesn't.

01:42:31.120 I see dead people.

01:42:32.240 It doesn't, it's never going to happen.

01:42:34.020 There will be Republicans who attempt that.

01:42:36.360 I mean, we've had plenty of plans that have been, some of them good, some of them not so

01:42:39.940 great, but will they win or will the, uh, the pressure of you, you know, healthcare needs

01:42:48.720 to be, I mean, like we've already seen multiple Republicans come out and already admit they

01:42:53.460 want these subsidies.

01:42:54.480 There's already people on the right already saying it when the pressure actually hits.

01:43:01.700 Every time in the past, we've always seen Republicans fold.

01:43:04.500 Now, look, Donald Trump does not seem like the type of guy who folds under this type of

01:43:08.340 pressure and if he really cares about this issue, I don't think Republicans will fold

01:43:12.440 on it.

01:43:13.020 I think if he's out there, but yeah, but I don't think it's central to what he, what's

01:43:18.300 central to him right now is making sure that people can afford their life and, uh, any plan

01:43:25.940 that they would have, uh, if it's a long-term plan to fix this, it, it doesn't help him right

01:43:33.380 now.

01:43:33.620 He's got to win the midterms, you know, gas, gas is what three Oh four lowest since

01:43:38.340 2020.

01:43:39.720 Um, and you have eggs back to a dollar 19.

01:43:43.420 I mean, so, so affordability is happening, but people are not recognizing it enough.

01:43:48.800 And if you, if you raise prices, you raise, especially a big ticket item like, like healthcare

01:43:53.020 that's all anybody's going to be talking about.

01:43:55.080 So he, you don't see him as being centrally focused on this.

01:43:58.240 Obviously he's got a lot of other things.

01:43:59.960 I mean, he's working on peace in the middle East.

01:44:01.560 This is not, this is not what he does.

01:44:04.140 He doesn't do this.

01:44:05.880 He doesn't do the, he doesn't do big, uh, the healthcare thing.

01:44:08.940 He doesn't, he doesn't, he just hasn't.

01:44:11.240 And neither do the Republicans.

01:44:12.680 There's nobody that's actually putting anything forward.

01:44:15.480 That's going to be good.

01:44:16.740 I think HHS is working on something.

01:44:19.520 I think they're doing some things, you know, the way Donald Trump does them, uh, you know,

01:44:23.840 passes these, these things, you know, buried in other bills and then just moves them in.

01:44:30.200 And I think you're going to see, there are tweaks around the edges that you've seen pretty

01:44:33.600 confident about.

01:44:34.600 I'm pretty confident that they're going to be making some tweaks, but it's going to take

01:44:37.540 a long time.

01:44:38.740 It's going to take state by state.

01:44:40.260 They're doing it state by state.

01:44:42.120 Um, and, and, and I think that could make a difference, but it's not going to make a difference

01:44:46.040 in November and it won't make a difference next November.

01:44:49.300 One thing I will say though, uh, about, cause I think you're right.

01:44:52.260 That Donald Trump is not like a, an ideological free market healthcare think tank guy.

01:44:59.260 That's like not who he is, which is, you know, again, he does a lot of other things really

01:45:03.000 well.

01:45:03.440 I would, I would love some of that in our lives, but you know, not necessarily his focus, but

01:45:08.260 one thing that I will note that Donald Trump is very focused on and make sure that he is

01:45:13.320 a high priority item is not losing.

01:45:16.140 And if the Republicans go through a shutdown that at this point, at the point of November

01:45:23.640 1st hitting will be about, I think at that time, technically the second longest shutdown

01:45:27.960 in our history, but close to the first longest.

01:45:30.520 And he's going to say, he's going to be like, okay with being like, all right, here's a bunch

01:45:35.060 of free money that you've been demanding that you've been holding us hostage to give you.

01:45:38.400 And that we just, by the way, um, you know, uh, tried to work on in the last big, beautiful

01:45:45.020 bill.

01:45:45.460 Let's just give you a bunch of that stuff back.

01:45:47.220 Like, cause that doesn't sound like him either.

01:45:50.280 It doesn't because it was in the big, beautiful bill.

01:45:53.020 It's going to be harder, but I, you know, they might give it for a temporary period.

01:45:59.660 It might do it for six months or something like that.

01:46:01.960 I mean, I could see, I could see them coming to the table and saying, okay, we're going to

01:46:05.600 give you this money for six months.

01:46:07.660 Um, and it's got to get us past, you know, the shutdown that's supposed to what happened

01:46:11.480 November 18th or something.

01:46:12.860 There's another one coming.

01:46:13.880 Yeah.

01:46:14.180 There's a, there's a, there I'm November 21st, I believe is another one of the, uh,

01:46:18.040 so I mean, you know, it's ridiculous.

01:46:20.900 And I could see them trying to make that deal right before, uh, right before the Obamacare

01:46:27.940 increases happen.

01:46:30.500 So they take away any victory from the Democrats, but the Democrats may not accept.

01:46:35.600 That because they want that victory.

01:46:37.600 They need, they need that.

01:46:39.440 Otherwise it just looks stupid.

01:46:40.600 And you know what they're, honestly, they are in trouble that, I mean, there's a headline

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01:46:47.560 They're afraid of the guillotine from their own side.

01:46:49.840 And it's true.

01:46:50.920 They are.

01:46:51.720 I mean, these are the people, you know, this is, this is, you know, the French revolution

01:46:56.000 on the left.

01:46:56.660 So good luck with that.

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01:48:18.240 What else have we not, I mean, I just can't get into the, I mean, the stupid Robert De Niro

01:48:24.340 thing is just stupid.

01:48:25.500 Well, you still haven't really addressed why Donald Trump is knocking down the White House

01:48:32.140 for his own.

01:48:33.180 Well, he's, he's, he just hates America.

01:48:35.680 That's what I've been reading.

01:48:37.860 Yeah.

01:48:38.660 And how crazy excited the left should be that he's knocking down something built by slaves.

01:48:44.780 They're like, we got to preserve that.

01:48:46.540 That's for the slaves made that.

01:48:48.920 It's weird.

01:48:49.800 I actually do have questions about this though.

01:48:51.920 What, what question do you have?

01:48:54.640 Well, like, and they come from, you know, everybody's source of thinking these days,

01:48:59.520 which are group, group texts that I'm on with some friends.

01:49:03.300 Right.

01:49:03.680 Like I have really basic questions of like, I feel like there'd be like a conversation

01:49:08.860 and a bill passed if we were going to put a giant new building on the, at the White

01:49:12.940 House, but nope, because that's not how it works at all.

01:49:15.340 Is it?

01:49:15.640 Nope.

01:49:16.040 How does it work?

01:49:16.720 I don't under, how does this work?

01:49:18.080 You ready?

01:49:18.460 Yes.

01:49:18.920 So the president says, I want to change the White House.

01:49:22.720 Okay.

01:49:23.220 And the White House architect says, uh, how would you like to change it?

01:49:28.180 And he says this way.

01:49:29.540 And they say, okay, well, you need to approve all the permits.

01:49:33.060 Okay.

01:49:33.420 I approve, I approve all the permits.

01:49:35.540 Okay.

01:49:35.940 We change it.

01:49:37.420 That's literally how it happens.

01:49:39.500 Really?

01:49:39.960 Yeah.

01:49:40.160 They can do anything they want.

01:49:41.180 Well, I mean, within reason, I mean, when I say within reason, I think with restraint

01:49:47.620 from public outcry, like if I, I want to paint the White House black, uh, you know, well, as

01:49:53.880 president, you can do whatever you want, but I don't think that will fly with the American

01:49:58.680 people.

01:49:59.800 So there are some standards in there, but I'll tell you about a conversation I had with

01:50:03.640 Trump next.

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01:51:28.360 Don't forget, I'm with Megan Kelly this Saturday at the Dickies Arena.

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01:51:35.120 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

01:51:49.240 We're glad you're here.

01:51:51.080 Thank you so much for listening.

01:51:52.540 You know, Stu is like freaking out about the White House.

01:51:55.540 I'm not freaking out.

01:51:56.700 I just think it's an interesting...

01:51:59.120 I thought there would be more of a process to something like this.

01:52:02.880 Nope.

01:52:03.440 Because I do not think at this point the American people understand what is about to happen,

01:52:08.840 which is like the White House is about to double in size.

01:52:13.500 Uh-huh.

01:52:15.180 Just by my eyeball look at it, it looks like it's going to maybe be more than two times

01:52:22.160 the size.

01:52:23.000 It's going to be large, but it's not the actual White House.

01:52:26.220 It is part of the East Wing.

01:52:28.220 That's a totally misleading commentary.

01:52:32.360 No, it's not, because the White House is the original piece from the 1700s.

01:52:36.500 Okay?

01:52:36.640 That's the center house.

01:52:38.700 The East Wing and the West Wing was not done until FDR.

01:52:43.740 They were added later.

01:52:45.520 You know, the biggest change to the White House in the last...

01:52:48.660 Well, since FDR, and it happened in our lifetime, right after 9-11.

01:52:53.900 The White House became enormous, but it was all underground.

01:53:00.180 Okay.

01:53:00.700 They completely changed everything underground.

01:53:03.240 And we didn't have a conversation about that at all.

01:53:05.940 Well, but it's...

01:53:06.740 Because it's underground!

01:53:08.660 I assume all sorts of things are happening underground.

01:53:12.080 Yeah.

01:53:12.400 Our well-known monuments and buildings.

01:53:14.840 Sure.

01:53:14.960 But this is a...

01:53:17.880 Like, it's not a...

01:53:19.700 They keep saying this, though.

01:53:21.300 They're going to be changing the West Wing.

01:53:23.060 That's not what they're doing.

01:53:23.920 No, East Wing.

01:53:24.480 The East Wing, sorry.

01:53:25.100 Yeah.

01:53:25.240 They're going to be changing the East Wing.

01:53:26.400 That's not what they're doing.

01:53:27.400 This is like doubling the size of the White House.

01:53:29.300 Now, I'm not opposed to that idea.

01:53:32.300 I'm just sort of surprised that it wasn't like a big conversation and a bill and like...

01:53:39.660 Okay, all right.

01:53:39.920 Okay, all right.

01:53:40.720 You ready?

01:53:41.140 Yes.

01:53:41.780 So was Donald Trump.

01:53:43.760 What do you mean?

01:53:44.080 So I'm in the White House with him, and I'm up in the private quarters with him, and he's

01:53:50.940 showing me some things that he is doing and talking to me about some other things that

01:53:56.380 I can't talk about because he doesn't want...

01:54:00.520 I don't know why.

01:54:01.480 He doesn't want to discuss it.

01:54:02.080 I didn't want to discuss it, and I don't know why, because it's all really good stuff.

01:54:05.600 But anyway, so we're talking about it, and then he brings up the ballroom, and we're

01:54:13.460 walking down the stairs from the residence, and we're going into the ballroom, and he

01:54:17.020 says, you know, there's the ballroom that Abraham Lincoln had dinner, and I said, you

01:54:19.800 know, it's that window over there that Frederick Douglass opened up the window and had to

01:54:24.420 crawl in because they wouldn't let him in because he was black, and Abraham Lincoln's

01:54:28.080 like, let him in.

01:54:28.680 He's my friend.

01:54:29.560 Why is he coming through the window?

01:54:30.820 And we were talking about all the history of the ballroom, and that it's very, very small

01:54:36.440 because it was built in the 1700s, and we keep using that ballroom.

01:54:41.500 And he's like, you've got to have a bigger ballroom.

01:54:43.420 We have it out in the wet, in the cold, in the rain, and yada, yada, yada.

01:54:48.120 And so he said, we come over to a window, and he's like, right there, I've got to build

01:54:53.300 a big, beautiful ballroom.

01:54:55.760 And it's going to be better than anybody thinks.

01:54:57.660 It's going to be the biggest, most beautiful ballroom at all.

01:55:00.160 And I'm like, you know, I'm just trying not to laugh, you know, because that's the way

01:55:03.200 he describes it.

01:55:04.560 And he said, you know, I was surprised I could do that.

01:55:08.620 And I said, I bet.

01:55:10.020 How long is that going to take?

01:55:11.780 What's that process like?

01:55:12.920 And he's like, right.

01:55:13.700 That's what I asked.

01:55:15.000 He said, I went to the, I don't know, Chief Usher or somebody, whoever's in charge of the

01:55:19.880 White House.

01:55:20.200 I think it's the Chief Usher.

01:55:21.560 He said, I think we should have a ballroom.

01:55:23.500 And he's like, what do I do?

01:55:24.580 And he said, well, you just have to talk to the architect.

01:55:27.980 So he went to the White House architect.

01:55:29.440 Now, this is the guy who makes sure the integrity of the White House stays.

01:55:32.900 Okay.

01:55:33.280 Like, you can't make it into a modern house.

01:55:36.420 Okay.

01:55:36.520 You're not going to redesign the inside and say, you can add some gold, I guess.

01:55:40.480 You can add a lot of gold, I guess.

01:55:41.720 But you can't make it into like, you know, you can't wreck the integrity of the White House.

01:55:47.120 And he said, you know, I just put these flagpoles in.

01:55:50.620 And he's like, all I had to say was, I want to put some flagpoles in.

01:55:53.940 And they're like, yes, sir.

01:55:54.580 Where?

01:55:55.520 He's like, what?

01:55:57.980 And he's like, one in the front, one in the back.

01:55:59.960 And they're like, okay, just tell us where.

01:56:01.880 So he went out to the garden.

01:56:03.300 It was like, right here, right there.

01:56:05.320 And they put them up.

01:56:06.920 And so he's talking to the White House architect.

01:56:11.380 And he said, we've got to have a ballroom.

01:56:13.120 And I think we should have it over here.

01:56:14.680 The East Wing is big, beautiful.

01:56:17.380 And he said, but what is this going to take?

01:56:20.000 And he's like, well, it's going to be very expensive.

01:56:22.520 Are you expecting the people to pay?

01:56:24.000 And he's like, no, I'll raise the money for it.

01:56:25.740 I'll pay for it.

01:56:26.500 And I'll raise the money extra.

01:56:28.120 So American people are not going to pay for it.

01:56:30.440 And the architect said, well, then all you have to do is sign the permits.

01:56:34.500 And he's like, what?

01:56:36.060 And he said, well, you have to go through the permitting process.

01:56:39.780 And he said, how long is that going to take?

01:56:42.320 And he's like, well, the president is the one who controls the process and signs the permit.

01:56:48.700 So as short as you'd like it to be, Mr. President, he's like, are you kidding me?

01:56:54.240 And he looked at me.

01:56:54.900 He's like, I'll have this done by spring of next year.

01:56:58.020 So he can change it.

01:57:01.640 But what you have to understand is the East Wing and the West Wing, those are FDR.

01:57:11.520 So FDR went into a works project, and he added those wings.

01:57:17.080 The East Wing is where the First Lady's offices are.

01:57:20.920 The East Wing is like, you know, it's just the East Wing.

01:57:25.420 And it's just shade at the East Wing.

01:57:29.880 Yeah, I am.

01:57:31.320 But anyway, and so what he's doing is he's taking some of it down, and he's going to link it to the ballroom.

01:57:39.400 And the ballroom is going to be the biggest beautiful ballroom in Washington, D.C.

01:57:44.080 It's going to link from there.

01:57:45.540 So you'll walk, if you're in the White House, you'll walk from the front door through the dining room, or the East Dining Room.

01:57:55.380 You'll go into the East Wing, and you'll go to the ballroom.

01:57:59.460 I'm looking at the renderings as we speak, and that's exactly it.

01:58:02.540 I have not even seen the renderings.

01:58:03.920 Oh, you haven't seen them?

01:58:04.520 No, I just had him describe it to me.

01:58:07.240 Can I see it?

01:58:08.460 No.

01:58:09.040 Oh.

01:58:09.380 They're mine.

01:58:10.180 It's my computer.

01:58:11.160 Okay.

01:58:11.200 This is the – I can't obviously show it to the people here, but you can see it over here.

01:58:17.120 It's big, beautiful.

01:58:18.120 What a surprise.

01:58:18.780 The tables are golden.

01:58:20.740 By the way –

01:58:22.500 It's amazing.

01:58:23.100 It's different.

01:58:24.520 Holy cow.

01:58:25.120 My conversation about whether this is the – you can't.

01:58:32.180 It's already zoomed in.

01:58:32.900 I mean, they're not the best images.

01:58:34.820 Here.

01:58:35.520 There's nothing wrong with that.

01:58:36.640 What's wrong with that?

01:58:37.460 It looks just like the white – it fits.

01:58:39.600 It's appropriate.

01:58:40.120 I was in the middle of saying – it's – my conversation on this is not whether it

01:58:46.120 is – looks good or is appropriate or anything.

01:58:49.400 Like, I actually think his point on the ballroom is so obvious every president should have been

01:58:55.280 making it.

01:58:55.940 The fact is that we don't have a big room to have state dinners in, unless you wanted

01:59:00.400 to do them off campus somewhere else, you have to have that, and why not have it at the

01:59:04.440 White House?

01:59:05.620 It makes a lot of sense.

01:59:06.860 Except I don't want to pay for it.

01:59:08.320 I don't.

01:59:08.620 As a citizen, I don't want a dime going for it.

01:59:10.580 You know what?

01:59:11.380 Hey, all you Frenchies, you're going to eat on the lawn.

01:59:13.820 Literally on the lawn.

01:59:15.320 On the lawn.

01:59:15.340 I mean, I would just throw the food out on the lawn.

01:59:18.160 Yeah.

01:59:18.640 I mean, I'm fine with that.

01:59:19.940 But if he wants to pay for it, if he wants to get rich people to pay for it, go for it.

01:59:24.380 I don't want any of my tax dollars going to it.

01:59:26.860 Right.

01:59:27.180 So my criticism is not how it looks or that we need it.

01:59:30.980 I actually, they showed the inside of it, and it seems like the type of facility we

01:59:34.240 should have for these types of events.

01:59:37.360 We're going to have them somewhere.

01:59:38.920 Yeah.

01:59:39.680 Why not have them there?

01:59:41.100 I think, you know...

01:59:42.180 And who better to build it than...

01:59:44.020 Donald Trump.

01:59:44.380 ...one of the best builders of all time.

01:59:46.720 We've had this conversation about how you project American power.

01:59:50.580 Yes.

01:59:50.780 And I think Trump's approach to particularly, I mean, we've seen it in the Middle East,

01:59:54.920 but I think it's a bit effective around the world, of these trappings actually are effective

02:00:00.200 in diplomatic relations with other nations.

02:00:03.560 It's not like just...

02:00:04.660 Donald Trump has a lot of places that are lined in gold.

02:00:06.680 He can have meetings.

02:00:07.720 Yes.

02:00:07.960 It's not like that's what he wants it for.

02:00:09.820 The left tries to portray it as, oh, he just wants a big...

02:00:12.160 He just, of course he does.

02:00:13.080 He wants this big...

02:00:13.680 No.

02:00:14.260 It means something to him, and he knows how these people think.

02:00:16.920 No, no.

02:00:18.760 Because I asked him.

02:00:20.780 I won't tell the whole story.

02:00:25.180 I really want to, really desperately.

02:00:28.080 But, you know, he's gilding everything.

02:00:31.720 And that's not necessarily my favorite look, you know?

02:00:35.200 Right.

02:00:36.200 And he came in...

02:00:40.300 Tanya and I were alone in the Oval for a while, and we were talking about it.

02:00:43.880 And he comes in, he says, you know, I'm doing all this.

02:00:46.540 You see all the gold?

02:00:47.500 I'm like, yes, I can't miss it.

02:00:49.120 You can't miss the gold.

02:00:50.060 And he's like, you know, it's so important.

02:00:54.380 These foreign leaders, they all come from palaces.

02:00:57.480 And they don't understand.

02:00:59.600 And I know, you know, the White House is different.

02:01:01.960 America's different.

02:01:02.560 But they understand power in a different way.

02:01:05.100 And he said they're coming from these old countries and these big buildings and these palaces.

02:01:10.540 And he said, it is important for us to project power.

02:01:14.100 Yes.

02:01:14.740 And that is why he's doing it.

02:01:17.400 It's not because he likes gold.

02:01:18.840 He's doing it to project power and wealth.

02:01:21.720 Notice how many prime ministers.

02:01:24.080 They're all flying in all the time from all over the world.

02:01:27.820 You know, I've never seen a president meet with so many foreign dignitaries in the White House.

02:01:31.680 All the time.

02:01:33.440 Yeah.

02:01:33.580 And the media likes to say, well, that's because he's self-important.

02:01:37.320 And he's projecting American power.

02:01:39.760 I think so, too.

02:01:40.500 And when I say it's important to him, that's why it's important to him.

02:01:43.340 Yes.

02:01:43.500 He believes it's an important tool in that world.

02:01:46.700 It's not him.

02:01:47.700 He knows the language they speak and not just body language or, you know, spoken language.

02:01:56.500 All of the entire – that's what protocol is all about.

02:02:00.200 It all means something.

02:02:02.440 And so my criticism – and it's not even criticism.

02:02:05.760 My observation is not whether it fits or whether we need it or whether it's appropriate or –

02:02:11.900 Mike, I don't think – my observation here in the group text that we started this with

02:02:18.460 was just that, like, holy crap, I don't think the American people have any idea what's about to happen.

02:02:23.260 Like, every time I bring this up to Glenn, and you have to understand how the conversations work,

02:02:27.180 I say, people are going to look at the White House, and it's going to be, like, totally different.

02:02:30.480 He's like, oh, President Tyler did more than that in 1914.

02:02:35.820 Shut up.

02:02:37.900 That's what I get from Glenn.

02:02:39.160 Oh, well, there was more changes underground.

02:02:42.860 You don't understand the piping.

02:02:45.500 They totally changed the piping back in 1807, you moron.

02:02:54.020 Okay, I'm sorry.

02:02:55.660 I didn't know that.

02:02:56.480 What I think of – and, you know, FDR made these changes.

02:03:00.260 My wife, it's been the same pretty much from the outside.

02:03:04.440 I know what the White House looks like.

02:03:05.860 You go up there, you look at the White House.

02:03:07.100 It looks like the White House.

02:03:08.860 It is not going to look like the White House when this is over.

02:03:11.620 It is going to look like the White House plus another White House next to it.

02:03:15.800 And it's going to be, I think, massively impressive, but, like, I'm surprised there's not more conversation about the differences.

02:03:21.020 When's the last time you were in Washington, D.C.?

02:03:23.320 The inauguration.

02:03:24.140 So, you would not believe the difference in the White House grounds.

02:03:31.180 The difference from, you know, when I went with George Bush, you could stand right at the front gate.

02:03:37.780 Right.

02:03:38.060 You can't do that anymore.

02:03:38.940 They've taken the park.

02:03:41.020 The park in the back is all gone.

02:03:43.960 The security.

02:03:44.840 Just for security reasons.

02:03:45.960 Everything.

02:03:46.160 All of the trees.

02:03:47.420 Everything that has been done to not see the White House except for that iconic front.

02:03:56.160 Yeah.

02:03:56.500 You know what I mean?

02:03:57.080 Mm-hmm.

02:03:57.340 Everything else is not really, you don't see it like you used to anymore.

02:04:03.980 You don't walk up to it anymore.

02:04:05.520 Yeah, I mean, the last, I was in town for the inauguration.

02:04:08.380 Last time I actually walked by the White House has been a long time.

02:04:11.420 Oh, you would not, you won't recognize it.

02:04:13.900 I mean, just driving by and seeing it.

02:04:16.600 Now, you'll get pictures of it and everything else, but walking by it, today, you wouldn't recognize it.

02:04:22.380 It's, it's, it's, what has had, what has happened with security is so sad.

02:04:29.980 I mean, I have the bell from the White House front desk.

02:04:34.700 There used to be a little desk right in the front, right as you walk in, there was a desk and a bell.

02:04:41.720 And I have it.

02:04:43.040 I think it is from Tyler's, you know, administration.

02:04:46.720 And you'd walk in and you'd hit the bell and you'd say, I want to see the president.

02:04:52.380 And somebody would say, okay, all right, sit over there.

02:04:54.980 And you would wait.

02:04:56.280 You might wait all day, but you got to, you can walk in without an appointment and see the president of the United States.

02:05:02.840 You're not getting in within two blocks of the White House now.

02:05:06.600 It's, it's sad.

02:05:08.140 It's sad what's happening.

02:05:09.220 Yeah.

02:05:09.500 I mean, and for good, again, I wouldn't disagree with that either.

02:05:12.820 It's for good reason, security wise.

02:05:14.940 Yes.

02:05:15.100 But I think of back, Glenn, the classic, I think what everyone thinks of when they think of the White House is, of course, the scene from Superman 2.

02:05:22.960 Where, uh.

02:05:23.940 Try to remember.

02:05:24.780 Where, where they show the White House and it's supposed to be, it's a motion picture, but they were too lazy to actually get video footage of the White House.

02:05:33.880 So it's just a still and you can tell because there's like, uh, you know, things that should be moving that aren't moving.

02:05:39.140 That aren't moving?

02:05:39.460 Yeah.

02:05:40.140 So.

02:05:40.940 Is that because.

02:05:41.580 I think it's Superman 2.

02:05:42.700 On Independence Day, they blew it up?

02:05:44.280 It could be.

02:05:44.980 It could be.

02:05:45.600 I mean, they only had a picture.

02:05:46.760 They hadn't rebuilt it.

02:05:47.420 I would say it's another good example.

02:05:48.160 Like, you have those, that picture of what the White House looks like.

02:05:51.980 Uh, and, you know, I guess from certain angles, it's still going to look pretty much the same, right?

02:05:56.560 It is.

02:05:56.840 From the front, you're not going to notice it because it's kind of wrapped around the back.

02:05:59.440 But like that, the back is pretty iconic too.

02:06:02.040 It's not going to look like that anymore.

02:06:03.200 It's going to look in some ways a lot better, more impressive, but it is a major change that I, when you say, hey, they're redoing the West Wing and putting a little ballroom in there.

02:06:12.500 That's not what they're doing.

02:06:13.580 East.

02:06:14.320 Sorry, East Wing.

02:06:15.600 I hate Glenn.

02:06:17.320 I'm only saying it because I know how much he hates it.

02:06:19.760 I hate you.

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02:07:47.220 So I'm going to be with Megan Kelly and I have a major announcement to make with Megan on Saturday at Dickey's Arena in Fort Worth, Texas.

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02:08:28.100 Apparently so.

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02:08:31.940 Well, I'm going to confront her about that on Saturday.

02:08:34.120 Anyway, Sue will be up on the XM Sirius Network with Megan next, and I will, of course, see you back here tomorrow for the Glenn Beck Radio Program and online, glennbeck.com.

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The Glenn Beck Program - October 21, 2025

Why Trump Keeps Blowing Up Venezuelan Drug Boats ｜ Guest： Peter Atwater ｜ 10⧸21⧸25

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