The Glenn Beck Program - December 02, 2021


Will Roe Affect Midterms? | Guests: Sen. Mike Lee & Edwin Black | 12⧸2⧸21


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2 hours

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152.29008

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18,324

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40

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Summary

Supreme Court oral arguments on Roe v. Wade are in the books, and we're here to talk about it. Today's episode of the Glennon Back Program is the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment, featuring Glennon Doyle's thoughts on the Supreme Court's decision to rule in favor of Roe v Wade.


Transcript

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00:01:50.220 if you didn't have the time yesterday to listen to the supreme court uh as they were doing their
00:01:58.620 oral arguments yesterday on roe versus wade stew and i came out of it in different places i think
00:02:07.540 that i think there's a good chance that roe versus wade is a thing of the past now it's really
00:02:15.620 difficult you don't want to read into their questions because sometimes it just they're just
00:02:20.180 asking good questions but they're asking them almost rhetorically they're they're asking and
00:02:27.260 just want to hear the answer it doesn't mean that's the way they're going to vote but if you heard some
00:02:33.820 of the questions and some of the answers to me it looks like roe versus wade may have a chance of
00:02:41.780 being a thing of the past stew's a little more skeptical of that we get his opinion we're going
00:02:47.220 to listen to the arguments and run it down for you in 60 seconds
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00:04:15.040 well let's start with the supreme court yesterday your takeaway quickly stew i mean i i i am optimistic
00:04:27.480 i hope i i'm normally pessimistic i mean i'm willing to to entertain the idea i'll be pessimistic
00:04:34.540 uh till the day john roberts is no longer on the court right but i mean you don't even need
00:04:38.800 roberts here this is why this should be an open and shut case right i just was surprised more about
00:04:43.880 the media coverage which seemed to treat it as a foregone conclusion that roe versus wade is going
00:04:48.880 away now there's incentives on both sides here i think you know the pro-life side wants to show this
00:04:54.140 is a really really important big deal which of course i think it is and the pro-choice side wants
00:04:58.580 to scare everybody on their side uh to to be out in the streets and vote democrat uh so maybe that's
00:05:04.740 all it is but like when i was when i was listening to the entire thing yesterday there are moments i
00:05:11.560 felt optimistic but i i didn't think that it was like the greatest i didn't i mean you heard pretty
00:05:18.360 nuanced questions from amy coney barrett um you know john roberts clearly was looking for some sort
00:05:24.640 of middle ground um you know kavanaugh i guess was probably the the most exciting part of this
00:05:30.160 because he was a question the biggest question mark maybe and he seemed to be uh by oral arguments on
00:05:38.760 the right side of it in my view but you know other than obviously clarence thomas and and samuel alito
00:05:44.160 um they both seemed rock solid yeah rock solid and i think but again like gorsuch didn't go into
00:05:51.120 enough detail that i think we learned anything new about gorsuch yesterday so i mean i i don't
00:05:56.480 think it's an open and shut case i would be surprised if they don't do anything like if we don't get to
00:06:01.600 the point where maybe this mississippi law is allowed or some other sort of incremental step well the the
00:06:08.400 the uh defendants the ones who you know from planned parenthood and the you know the um the abortion
00:06:15.840 clinics they're saying it's all or nothing if you allow this to stand then roe versus wade is over
00:06:23.740 it's an interesting risk i think they have some there's some political calculations that go on
00:06:28.360 there as well uh but it was interesting to hear even the planned parenthood lawyers aren't arguing the
00:06:34.720 position of the democratic party they're saying viability which you would say is like 24 weeks
00:06:40.480 the democratic party is saying up until birth right so the planned parenthood lawyers are far more
00:06:47.780 conservative than the democratic party at this point that's your country it's crazy it's crazy so one of
00:06:53.420 the big things that uh happened is jose is um uh justice sotomayor do we have this one um
00:07:01.460 yeah let's i think we have kagan basically saying this here's uh cut 13 justice fryer started
00:07:10.140 with stare decisis uh an important principle in any case and here for the reasons that casey mentioned
00:07:20.560 uh especially so um uh to prevent people from thinking that this court is a political institution
00:07:28.640 that will go back and forth depending on uh what part of the public yells loudest oh my gosh oh this is
00:07:39.220 ridiculous this ridiculous now what she's saying here is that um this this um legal argument
00:07:48.000 uh means that you can't go in with well-established law and just overturn it you you have to have
00:07:58.000 you know compelling evidence to overturn it and when it's not clear you should always just stay with it
00:08:07.080 and we don't overturn long-standing rulings by the supreme court that's the argument well that was shot to
00:08:15.520 hell yesterday uh kavanaugh uh you know just took it apart um and and really took it apart with the
00:08:24.800 plessy versus ferguson decision which was separate but equal that was a wrong ruling separate but equal
00:08:34.980 it was changed by the brown versus board of education but it was a law for 58 years
00:08:42.440 so by what sotomayor and kagan were saying that should plessy versus ferguson should have remained
00:08:52.040 and that's what the conservatives were saying on the court wait a minute you can't do that if if it is
00:08:58.020 wrong it is wrong and they were making the argument uh that they're in fact let me see if we have it
00:09:05.640 uh where is the one reasons for roe versus wade i think it's cut 14 let's try that mississippi's ban
00:09:16.900 on abortion two months before viability is flatly unconstitutional under decades of precedent
00:09:22.980 mississippi asks for the court to dismantle this precedent and allow states to force women to
00:09:29.300 remain pregnant and give birth against their will the court should refuse to do so for at least three
00:09:35.260 reasons first stare decisis presents an especially high bar here in case that's what we just talked
00:09:42.260 about carefully examined and rejected every possible reason for overruling roe holding that a woman's right
00:09:49.520 to end a pregnancy before viability was a rule of law and a component of liberty it could not renounce
00:09:56.560 the question then is not whether roe should be overturned but whether casey was egregiously wrong
00:10:03.460 to adhere to roe's central holding second casey and roe were correct for a state to take control
00:10:11.500 of a woman's body and demand that she go through pregnancy and childbirth with all the physical risks
00:10:17.960 and life-altering consequences that brings is a fundamental deprivation of her liberty okay stop
00:10:24.200 now go to cut nine here's where clarence thomas jumps in and asks a few questions go ahead nine general
00:10:31.400 would you specifically tell me uh uh specifically uh state what the right is is it specifically abortion
00:10:41.220 is it uh liberty is it autonomy is it privacy the right is grounded in the liberty component of the
00:10:51.240 14th amendment justice thomas but i think that it promotes interests in autonomy bodily integrity liberty
00:10:57.420 and equality and i do think that it is specifically the right to abortion here the right of a woman to be
00:11:02.960 able to control without the state forcing her to continue a pregnancy whether to carry that baby to term
00:11:08.880 i understand we're talking about abortion here but what is confusing is that we if we were talking
00:11:19.540 about the second amendment i know exactly what we're talking about if we're talking about fourth amendment
00:11:24.220 i know what we're talking about because it's written it's there what specifically is the right here
00:11:31.960 that we're talking about well justice thomas i think that the court in those other contexts with
00:11:38.480 respect to those other amendments has had to articulate what the text means and the bounds
00:11:43.020 of the constitutional guarantees and it's done so through a variety of different tests that implement
00:11:47.800 first amendment rights second amendment rights fourth amendment rights so i don't think that there
00:11:51.960 is anything unprecedented or anomalous about the right that the court articulated in rowan casey and
00:11:57.520 the way that it implemented that right by defining the scope of the liberty interest by reference to
00:12:02.840 viability and providing that that is the moment when the balance of interest tips and when the state can
00:12:08.440 act to prohibit a woman from from getting an abortion so let's just go through the rights okay here are the
00:12:15.960 rights as enumerated uh in the constitution tell me which ones apply to abortions to freedom of speech
00:12:24.500 no freedom of press no freedom of religion no you might be able to make a case but no there's no
00:12:32.580 on the other side right there's no religion that you know satanism says you're supposed to
00:12:37.700 and the democratic party uh freedom of assembly no freedom to petition the government no right to bear arms
00:12:47.540 no unless you redefine arms then it's a pro-life uh protect protections against housing soldiers in a
00:12:56.340 civilian home protection against unreasonable search and seizure protection against the issuing of
00:13:01.520 warrants without probable cause protection against trial without indictment double jeopardy self
00:13:06.680 incrimination property seizure right to a speedy trial informed of charges confronted by a witness call
00:13:13.040 to a witness right to legal counsel uh right to trial by jury protect against excessive bail excessive fines
00:13:21.000 and cruel and unusual punishment it doesn't enter the bill of rights at all so he says well what right
00:13:33.540 specifically are we talking about cut 10 listen to sotomayor viability is not tethered to anything in the
00:13:41.520 constitution in history or tradition it's a quintessentially legislative line so much that's not in the
00:13:48.600 constitution i'm so glad she brought that up there is so much it's true not in the constitution for instance
00:13:58.160 the quote right to health care not in the constitution abortion not in the constitution but there is
00:14:08.960 something in the constitution that goes to the very heart of this case it's the 10th amendment
00:14:16.540 powers not granted to the federal government in the constitution belong to the states or the people
00:14:26.420 it's very clear if abortion is not in the constitution the federal government has no role
00:14:38.380 none if you can't tie it to one of the rights that are in there it's the constitution specifically states
00:14:49.340 there's all kinds of rights out there and those rights are all held by the people and the states
00:14:55.520 this is why it was so important uh when they were talking about um and i don't have it shoot i don't have it
00:15:04.800 yet um when they were when they were talking about um uh being neutral who was it it was kavanaugh
00:15:15.700 kavanaugh talks about being neutral and the supreme court should be neutral on things like this if it
00:15:25.300 isn't constitutional that's what the supreme court is supposed to do it's not supposed to decide social
00:15:33.920 issues it's not supposed to decide you know if if if you had religious zealots take over the united states
00:15:41.920 of america would you want the supreme court to be able to say yep well that church is the right church and
00:15:48.660 and uh the people have spoken on that no you wouldn't want that right well could the supreme court
00:15:57.000 actually stand against it absolutely because in the constitution it says the federal government
00:16:05.060 can't do any of that it can't pick one religion over another it's left to the individuals
00:16:13.900 and this is the biggest problem who runs the country do the people run the country
00:16:21.140 does the president and his cabinet run the country does the senate and congress or the supreme court
00:16:31.440 who actually has final say final say according to the constitution remains with you as long as
00:16:44.100 as long as nothing is happening that violates the constitution it belongs in the hands of the people
00:16:55.020 and we keep voting for things for instance health care we voted against health care they jammed it through
00:17:04.740 they jammed it through in an unconstitutional way and john roberts who i believe knew it was wrong
00:17:13.060 did some makeup at the supreme court and ruled in favor of it when he should have said
00:17:21.540 if you want this do it the right way sending i'm sending it back he actually should have said
00:17:28.580 uh there's no right to health care there is no right to health care so don't bring it to me
00:17:39.120 it's why conservatives may be against universal health care in your state but you've never heard
00:17:45.600 me say anything other than romney was wrong and stupid with romney care in massachusetts but it wasn't
00:17:52.260 illegal it wasn't against the constitution state has a right to do that i don't have a problem with
00:17:58.000 california voting to be the dumbest group of people i've ever seen in my life they have a right to live
00:18:04.140 that way they have a right to rule that way if that's the way they want to do it my problem with
00:18:08.460 california is they rope me in because when they fail and they will i'll be on the hook and my taxes
00:18:17.460 will have to go to pay for their nonsense that's my problem not that they do things that i disagree
00:18:24.780 with in california it is the state's right and it is the people's right to vote one way or another
00:18:34.460 that's what this is really all about states rights and the constitution
00:18:41.500 are we going to have a body that is just political
00:18:45.580 because we've always tried to play by the rules
00:18:50.320 and uh if we can't get this done this time i think everything changes i think everything changes
00:19:00.220 there will be litmus tests there will be people now that will say how are you going to vote how are
00:19:06.180 you going to vote and i want to see evidence that that has been in your dna from the beginning
00:19:11.620 because this has been a farce to the to the right for a very long time back in just a second
00:19:20.020 and not because they don't vote our way but because they don't follow the constitution
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00:20:56.440 here is uh justice kavanaugh from you really dig into it um history tells a somewhat different story i think
00:21:17.700 than is sometimes assumed you think about some of the most important cases the most consequential cases
00:21:24.200 in this court's history there's a string of them where the cases overruled precedent brown v board
00:21:32.600 uh outlawed separate but equal uh baker versus car which set the stage for one person one vote
00:21:40.400 west coast hotel which recognized the state's authority to regulate business
00:21:45.360 miranda versus arizona which required police to give warnings when the right to
00:21:49.920 about the right to remain silent and to have an attorney present to suspects in criminal custody
00:21:55.180 lawrence v texas said that the state may not prohibit same-sex conduct
00:22:00.580 map versus ohio which held that the exclusionary rule applies to state criminal prosecutions to exclude
00:22:08.020 evidence obtained in violation of the fourth amendment gideon versus rain wainwright which guaranteed the right to
00:22:14.500 counsel in criminal cases or berger fell which recognized the constitutional right to same-sex
00:22:20.200 marriage i mean he goes on each of those cases other than that though what does he have right you
00:22:25.480 know i mean it goes on and on and on on and on and it shows that kavanaugh may actually be
00:22:32.840 uh fighting on our side which oh yeah i mean that's great hope for sure i mean briar went to great
00:22:39.740 extents to try to argue that this did not qualify as one of those types of cases but i thought he
00:22:46.320 failed frankly with that argument back with more in a minute
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00:24:13.920 this is the glenn beck's pro glenn beck program uh justice roberts strangely had a great question
00:24:31.220 yesterday in the supreme court uh as they were talking about um abortion and the mississippi law
00:24:38.460 that allows abortions up to 15 uh weeks at 15 weeks it bans all abortions including rape or incest
00:24:49.440 and here's what justice roberts asked which i think is a very logical question
00:24:55.140 if you think that the issue is one of choice uh that women should have a choice to terminate their
00:25:02.600 pregnancy um that supposes that there is a point at which they've had the fair choice
00:25:11.180 opportunity to choice and why would 15 weeks be an inappropriate line so a viability it seems to me
00:25:19.200 doesn't have anything to do with choice
00:25:20.860 it doesn't and the problem with viability is you're on the wrong side of history
00:25:29.320 because if you're arguing arguing it's 24 weeks you're already wrong yeah they're already they're
00:25:35.220 still arguing 24 weeks 24 weeks was the standard basically that was put in with casey because
00:25:40.620 because that was about the time that kids could live at that point we're at 20 weeks now let me give
00:25:45.680 you a couple couple of the coolest dudes in the entire world curtis means and richard hutchinson
00:25:51.160 they're one year they're both one years old they both uh have the the record and the record was
00:25:58.420 broken by curtis means for the youngest baby ever born to live to their first birthday and they
00:26:04.100 were in 21 weeks right at the beginning of 21 weeks that just occurred um these kids are thriving and
00:26:11.260 you know there's pictures of them having their little smash cake for their first birthday 21 weeks
00:26:16.660 one of the kids that uh that is i can't remember uh it might be curtis means but i can't remember if it
00:26:22.740 is or not but the the mother had to actually lie to the hospital about how old how long the baby had
00:26:31.320 been baking in the oven uh to get them to treat the baby because it was the kid was so young that
00:26:39.220 they're like ah there's no chance and then they saved him anyway wow because she had to lie she had
00:26:43.940 to lie and say no actually it's 24 weeks because if it was 21 weeks they weren't going to do anything
00:26:49.940 so how many more kids how many could be saved how many thousands and that number is going to get
00:26:55.320 closer and closer to conception i mean you know it's not going to be conception but that viability
00:27:02.100 number is going to get closer and closer and closer and you're on the wrong side of history
00:27:08.540 here's justice alito on viability uh cut 22
00:27:14.220 alito was great by the way i mean alito alito and thomas are pretty much the unquestioned uh success
00:27:22.260 stories here here he is just on on the other side the the fetus has an interest in having a life
00:27:31.880 and that doesn't change does it from the point before viability to the point after viability
00:27:37.860 in in some people's view it doesn't your honor but what the court said is that those philosophical
00:27:42.880 differences couldn't be resolved in a way that what i'm that's what i'm getting at what is the
00:27:47.600 philosophical argument the secular philosophical argument for saying this is the appropriate line
00:27:53.280 there are those who say that the rights of personhood should be considered to have
00:27:58.860 uh taken hold um at a point when the fetus acquires certain independent characteristics but
00:28:07.140 viability is dependent on medical technology and medical practice it has changed it may continue
00:28:13.980 to change now when he's talking about philosophical arguments sotomayor runs into the defense and here's
00:28:23.780 what she says cut 11. the viability line discounts and disregards state interests and the undue burden
00:28:31.920 standard has all all of the problems how is your interest anything but a religious view
00:28:37.380 the issue of when life begins has been hotly debated by philosophers since the beginning of time
00:28:47.040 so you it's still debated in religion so amazing
00:28:50.760 um so when you say this is the only right that takes away from the state the ability to protect
00:29:01.400 the life that's a religious view isn't it because it assumes that a fetus is life what at
00:29:10.840 when you're not drawing your when do you suggest we begin that way i think the philosophical questions
00:29:18.740 your honor mentioned all those reasons that they're hard they've been debated they're they're they're
00:29:22.740 important there those are all reasons to return this to the people because the people should get
00:29:27.220 to debate these hard issues yep he's like hey um sotomayor would you mind making my argument for me
00:29:33.240 real quick and this is exactly the point that mississippi is making which is you can't take this
00:29:39.260 away from the people and and just put again even the supreme court disagreed with the supreme court
00:29:46.780 standards they keep saying oh well you can't overturn roe and casey casey overturned roe casey yes it said
00:29:54.300 the fundamental findings of roe remained but they got rid of the trimester plan which was what roe versus
00:30:01.320 wade said hey first trimester you can't do anything third trimester you can put in lots of restrictions
00:30:05.560 went through the whole process and they changed that to viability so the initial argument about abortion
00:30:11.140 literally was not did not mention viability really at all and that was that point was made yesterday
00:30:17.720 as well viability is a new standard they put in in the 90s to to justify their mistake from the 70s
00:30:25.780 and now we're supposed to act like now in the 2020s we're not allowed to come up with a new reading on
00:30:30.460 this so there is a there is a non-religious view uh why don't we kill why don't we kill homeless people
00:30:37.580 why don't we kill homeless people i mean they don't have a good life they have a horrible life
00:30:43.880 they're living under a bridge do you want to live under a bridge like that because they have a right
00:30:47.660 to live they have a right to live right fundamental right to live um yeah but i mean you know they're
00:30:54.340 in and out of prison they're a drug addict i mean so they're gonna they're gonna continue to spiral
00:31:01.520 down we do this all the time with abortion we say like how many albert einsteins correct have we
00:31:06.660 aborted how many chilies waiter waiters have we aborted who cares what they do with their life
00:31:11.560 correct it's their life to do something and that is the non-religious argument from the uh the future
00:31:18.600 like ours it's that's the argument the future like ours we can't we can't we don't have the right
00:31:26.500 to limit somebody's future because we think that's not worth living there's a lot of people that are
00:31:35.020 very very very happy and fulfilled that we would look and go i wouldn't want to live like that we
00:31:41.700 should pull the plug on that person huh the argument is your arrogance your arrogance to decide what some
00:31:51.240 person wants in their future you can't you can't eliminate them because you don't think they have
00:31:58.800 a future you can't abort people because they're people and you don't know the arguments going back
00:32:07.840 and forth uh that it happened early on that all these children will have no life and who you you
00:32:13.680 gonna adopt them you have no idea there were people i i know one i work with somebody who is
00:32:21.800 had the childhood from hell mom and dad drug addicts hard core drug addicts taken away he and his sister
00:32:32.220 and his brother taken away very young by the state put in foster care i mean a movie style bad foster care
00:32:42.800 system he runs away the at the 12 i think uh 13 he runs away from the last foster home they don't report
00:32:52.920 him because they want just the money so they they don't ever report that he's he's gone they just keep
00:32:59.080 taking the money wow and he knows that in the system right there yeah so he knows that so he uh runs away
00:33:05.660 he's living on the streets and when he gets old enough to go work at any store any restaurant he's
00:33:14.080 working he's going to school himself he's always playing the shuffle with the parents uh he he goes
00:33:23.640 in he's living he he makes enough money to buy a little teeny apartment he and his sister he goes and
00:33:30.360 gets his sister he and his sister are living in the kitchen of this apartment they can't afford
00:33:35.420 food they can't afford heat they can't afford electricity but this has a gas stove think how
00:33:40.960 dangerous this is they turn on the gas stove all winter long and open it up so they can have heat
00:33:48.100 and they can sleep at night all right you think this guy has a future i work with this guy he's one of
00:33:57.320 the most optimistic hard-working um entrepreneurs that i know he is considered my i when we brought
00:34:07.860 the family uh my my kids and uh and i we went up to to uh tanya's parents house and all of the family
00:34:14.080 was around and my son started talking about his brother and all the aunts and nieces and nephews and
00:34:20.540 uncles were like oh hang on just a second you mean tim who's married to your sister and he said no my
00:34:29.440 my brother my other brother and and he just kept talking like it was no big deal and they were like
00:34:34.240 wait hold it and now they're looking at us like you have a son and you've not talked to us about that
00:34:38.760 that's how close he is to our family he i beg him to spend time around my son because he's such a
00:34:48.300 good role model don't tell me about somebody's life you have no idea their life may suck they may
00:34:54.660 be in prison but they have today to make a different choice that's not religious that's just getting
00:35:04.420 rid of humanity's arrogance to make the call for everyone else and that story could go a totally
00:35:11.900 different way right where instead of that the whole beginning is the same and instead they wind up
00:35:17.480 being a total slug and live at home and play xbox all day and guess what they still have the right
00:35:25.700 to live still have a right whether they accomplish anything with their lives at all you don't have
00:35:30.140 the right to kill them because you think they might not do uh they might do life wrong to your standards
00:35:36.660 or they may not have a life that you agree with yeah how many how many elites how many elites that you
00:35:43.620 you can think right now you see how they look at people in the center of the country do you think
00:35:50.980 you could get five or ten you went to all the universities and everything and i'm talking a low
00:35:56.520 number here five or ten intellectual progressive elites that you could um gather together that would
00:36:05.160 agree that there are many people in the red states that should just be a lick just liquidated because
00:36:12.960 they're never they're a harm to society and uh they just they're just dragging us back into the stone
00:36:19.660 age i can guarantee there's always a group that the progressives want to do this to go bad they would
00:36:24.780 have been uh aborting every mixed race baby they would have been aborting every uh gay still child of
00:36:31.480 someone who they believed were to be gay they're they already are doing this they the well it kills me
00:36:39.200 that that uh nancy pelosi comes out yesterday and she's talking about how this is just racist all of
00:36:46.280 this in mississippi is just racist really is it because it seems to me that when 27 african-american
00:36:55.120 women out of uh out of a thousand compared to 10 white women out of a thousand have an abortion
00:37:05.060 it seems like we're targeting african-americans more than we're targeting blacks and gee how is that
00:37:13.780 how did that happen because margaret sanger was a white supremacist this entire operation was put
00:37:21.080 together to target the inner city to target the black community to eliminate the black race don't talk to
00:37:30.560 me about racism and abortion because you're on the losing side of history back in a minute with more
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00:38:58.800 so the corporate media is uh really on the bandwagon that this is the end of roe versus wade and
00:39:09.780 there are three ways that this could could end um i mean it would be wonderful if if it ended so
00:39:20.100 states had the rights to do whatever the people of that state wanted to do um but it also could end
00:39:28.000 333 all the justices there's there's no majority um we have absolutely no idea now why is the corporate
00:39:39.280 media telling you that this is over it's over um i think stew was right when he said it's all about
00:39:48.620 hyping up money and politics uh and getting people ready for the midterm elections yeah can you imagine
00:39:55.600 what the media is going to look like if let's just say july 2022 roe versus wade is overturned in the
00:40:02.480 united states you imagine how good imagine can you imagine how good donald trump looks
00:40:07.100 to the right gonna have a great argument as to uh i mean assuming you know the he has three justices
00:40:14.100 there assuming they come through yeah which would be probably necessary i mean unless they took a half
00:40:19.420 step would probably be necessary but i think you'd get all three of them if this were to happen and if
00:40:23.860 so it was going to look very good very good for donald trump um so they're just they're just
00:40:29.480 ramping things up now why because they believe it no because of politics but there is another reason as
00:40:37.680 well because they are going to target the supreme court this is going to be their angle to add more
00:40:47.360 justices to the supreme court or to uh have some sort of time limit for justices to serve so they can
00:40:57.200 pack the court that's what the media is lining up right now those arguments to change the supreme court
00:41:05.580 in case it does dismantle roe versus wade this is the glenn back program hello america we have the
00:41:16.780 uh court hearing uh court hearing to continue to talk about we also have the latest from twitter and
00:41:24.500 there is something something going on that uh is not going to work out to our advantage and it's way
00:41:31.620 more than just what the who is who the guy is that replaced jack at twitter and their latest uh new
00:41:39.760 little rule to protect everyone i'll wait until you hear about that uh also waukesha i don't know if
00:41:48.680 you i don't know if you've heard but the killer the guy that was driving the suv he feels like he's
00:41:55.520 being demonized and gosh darn it i feel i mean i really feel bad uh and i think we should all stop and
00:42:04.500 reflect on that uh you know and i'm sure kyle rittenhouse uh you know could have said that but
00:42:10.920 nobody really cared back then but uh yeah um we'll give you the incredible actual uh words
00:42:19.920 of the charges the witnesses and the police this there is no way the media is on the right side of
00:42:31.760 history today on almost any subject we begin in 60 seconds
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00:44:04.800 so thinking about thinking ahead for a little bit and i am not getting ahead of myself on this i do not
00:44:23.060 believe uh that this is a sure thing that roe versus wade is going to get overturned or anything
00:44:27.600 like the media is presenting it but let's just say it does for a second let's just go down that road
00:44:32.740 it's supposed to come out in like july 2022 a few months before the midterm election yes how does
00:44:43.420 something like that affect politics well first can we start with what does it mean to overturn
00:44:51.060 roe versus wade because i think that if this truth gets out it changes that question it's true i mean i
00:44:59.520 we can overstate the importance of this frankly even as conservatives yes uh you know for example
00:45:06.260 the mississippi law limits abortion to 15 weeks by the way written by a female nurse uh not so for all
00:45:12.340 the idea of like oh well these men keep trying to tell me about my body yeah female nurse wrote the bill
00:45:18.020 okay so just zip it um i'm so sick of this crap uh but but if you look at the 15 week bill let's just
00:45:25.220 say that was approved and mississippi went to a 15 week plan you can have abortions up till 15 weeks
00:45:32.840 that would still allow about 95 percent of abortions correct okay however i believe mississippi is one of
00:45:42.020 those that have already on the books like texas does if roe versus wade is ever overturned yeah so
00:45:47.860 it's automatically a no abortion state let me take this step by step though what they're actually
00:45:52.900 talking about is this mississippi law that limits it to 15 weeks about 95 percent of abortions happen
00:45:59.460 before 15 weeks anyway okay so and you have to believe there's about four percent more that happened
00:46:07.240 between 16 and 20 weeks and my guess is there's a they move those up a few weeks right you're most
00:46:13.720 of the people that would normally have the abortion between 16 and 20 weeks have it a little earlier
00:46:18.360 before 15 weeks in this situation that would bring you to about 99 percent of abortions and then you're at
00:46:25.720 a situation where there's still opportunity if you want to go past that to go to different states go to
00:46:30.520 california so what would this actually do how many abortions would it actually prevent would it turn
00:46:35.800 us into the handmaid's tale and have a gilead government cracking down on us so that women have
00:46:41.560 no choice whatsoever and all these rights are taken away no unfortunately by the way it would still result
00:46:47.960 in pretty much everybody that wants to have an abortion having an abortion if roe versus wade were to
00:46:55.000 get overturned completely however as you point out many states red states have triggers in their
00:47:02.360 constitution blue states have the opposite triggers which automatically would make abortion illegal in
00:47:09.560 their state um various ways to do this but basically if that if that ruling comes down in a bunch of
00:47:16.440 states you just have it be illegal uh to have an abortion and in states like california for example it
00:47:22.760 would automatically become legal so right off the bat uh you wouldn't have you'd have a bunch of
00:47:29.480 different changes in the law but there would be states where it would be illegal there's a a pro
00:47:34.040 abortion group that came out with a map that said here's what's going to happen and they i think this
00:47:39.480 is uh optimistic from our point of view said about 26 states would get rid of it i think that's probably
00:47:47.640 too high but it's you know it's probably at least 20 states that would do it but i'm taking their map
00:47:52.120 because they're a pro uh choice organization and they want they see this as a violation of rights
00:47:58.920 so what is the most arduous thing that could happen to a woman who wanted to have an abortion
00:48:04.440 what is the worst case scenario how far would you have to drive to get an abortion in the united states
00:48:12.760 the absolute farthest distance would be basically from southern florida to north carolina which is about
00:48:20.840 a 12 hour drive now i've that's not nothing right it's probably a lot harder than it is today
00:48:27.640 what if you can't drive you're a woman and you can't drive then you could fly in two hours what if
00:48:32.120 you don't have any legs to be able to you know get to the airport then i guarantee you there will be
00:48:39.400 a pro-choice organization that will transport you across the borders what if you have no legs and no
00:48:43.080 hands so you can't answer the phone you hopefully you have an alexa nearby and you can take the phone
00:48:49.240 call that what if you're so poor and you live in a place where the internets are all so slow
00:48:58.360 see this is these are the people you're not thinking of that is definitely not the person
00:49:02.520 i'm thinking of uh but yes there would certainly be a way there but my point though is that a two-hour
00:49:07.720 flight which by the way costs less than the actual abortion would be an option for you to fly into one
00:49:13.800 of these states or you would have to take a you'd have to drive one one day have the operation maybe
00:49:19.960 stay over in a hotel and come back after that it's not nothing but is it honestly honestly do we
00:49:28.760 actually claim that this is some massive violation even if you believe abortion is a is a i know but
00:49:35.320 it's not honest is what i'm saying no i know that if if even if you believe abortion is a fundamental
00:49:40.520 human right which is completely against all history and common sense but if you do believe that
00:49:47.800 what you would have to do is invest a day or two in traveling to get one and i guarantee you
00:49:55.080 all of these organizations that say it's a human right and what your donations are going to accept
00:49:59.320 donations from rich liberals all around the country to transport these women to these places to do this
00:50:04.760 and they will just like uh you realize when you have um different tax laws on tobacco there will
00:50:12.760 be abortion huts popping up right on the border of all of these states to serve all of these people
00:50:18.680 i think that's a terrible outcome but we have to recognize that it's real what else is real is
00:50:24.840 there are organizations that already exist overseas that will mail you abortion pills if you live in an
00:50:31.960 area where they believe abortion is too restrictive the rules against it are too restrictive so it is
00:50:38.280 going to be basically impossible to eliminate this horror show by law the only solution to this long term
00:50:49.240 and this does not mean that we we still go through this court process we still make it illegal everywhere
00:50:53.640 we can we do everything we can to save even one life because that's really important but the only way
00:50:58.520 to make this horror show to go away in in a real in a real long-term fashion is to win the hearts and
00:51:05.240 minds of people to realize how terrible this is if you made slavery legal tomorrow no one would be
00:51:11.880 getting slaves because everyone recognizes that slavery is terrible right you have to win people over
00:51:18.440 on this you have to persuade them over a long period of time i believe honestly that that will happen
00:51:24.600 i do believe eventually this country and this world will eventually see this process for what it is
00:51:30.680 so it's going to take a long time all right so that is why our that's why planned parenthood is in our
00:51:35.400 schools right now they're in our schools right now this is why this is all being jammed down their
00:51:41.400 throats because they believe you have to win the hearts and minds of uh of kids and the next generation
00:51:48.920 and they are doing that effectively now your original question to me was what does this mean
00:51:54.280 politically yeah what is this how does this affect the 2022 election because i will say that i i think
00:51:59.800 it could honestly cost republicans the election fine i think that's where i am too yeah you know you want
00:52:07.000 to say if that's the cost of getting rid of roe versus wade then that's the cost of getting rid of
00:52:11.800 roe versus wade okay here's the thing here's what's going to happen if it was overturned um and again we're
00:52:18.360 looking at july the media is going to hype this as if it's a loss already for the left they'll be
00:52:27.320 doing that now until the court comes out they are going to be saying uh you know we're going to be
00:52:33.400 living um you know the handmaiden's tale it's coming it's coming it's coming just to juice the left
00:52:39.960 up that's what's going to happen now uh and it already is if it does turn out that they don't take any
00:52:49.000 half measures which i don't know i can't find them in the court case yesterday at least um they're going to
00:52:56.840 have to decide it either stands uh minnesota the viability thing is either is either good or we're going to
00:53:07.160 stick to roe versus wade uh one or the other um and it will have abortion huts on all of the borders
00:53:16.120 of states that don't do abortion it's a horrible outcome you're going to see the biggest thing is a
00:53:24.440 bigger divide in america and this is why i said okay if it costs 2022
00:53:30.680 i know this is uh dangerous to say because we can't afford to lose 2022 but this is a soul thing
00:53:44.600 if we are on the side of saving children and we are these are babies these are children this is the
00:53:53.240 second leading cause of death in america abortion it's between heart disease and the third is cancer
00:54:05.320 abortion is number two think of the souls and the blood that is on all of our hands so if we lose
00:54:17.320 fine so be it that may be the sacrifice that we give up and say lord can you help protect us again
00:54:26.680 please because we may lose we really need some divine providence to happen here and i would rather trust
00:54:36.280 god than the voting machines quite honestly and i'd rather position myself on his side and the side of
00:54:45.400 history you just have to know we are on the right side of history science is going to continue to move
00:54:54.040 that line of viability back further and further and further people are going to see in the end what a
00:55:04.520 monstrosity this really is i believe truly that in a hundred years we are going to be looked back on as
00:55:13.960 barbarians we are they you they really just killed all their children it was the second leading cause of
00:55:23.240 death and people didn't even talk about it we are going to be looked at as barbarians
00:55:32.760 so what's going to happen you're going to have a deeper divide and you're going to see the death cult
00:55:38.920 get stronger they are because you know and i know that when it says 15 weeks if they decide that
00:55:49.000 the mississippi law stands that means that you can now have states decide we're not doing abortion or we
00:55:57.640 are everyone knows that mississippi is not going to say 15 weeks if they're really free they're going to
00:56:04.840 say no abortion texas no abortion and there's several states that will say no abortion they're not going to
00:56:13.880 say in the blue states oh abortion as it is they too have an agenda they want abortions after birth
00:56:24.040 so you're going to see states that go further in the other direction you're going to see evil increase
00:56:34.280 in those states guarantee it guarantee it they've already told you that's what they want let the baby
00:56:45.000 be born and then the mother has a time period where she can decide whether she wants to keep it or not
00:56:50.360 they've already said that in virginia and in new york so i personally like to know what i'm dealing
00:57:02.040 with and i believe that we are not fighting flesh and bone we're not fighting our neighbors we're not
00:57:08.040 fighting the democrats we're fighting evil evil has a chokehold on a lot of people right now
00:57:14.600 and i'd rather have all of the people who aren't uh captivated by evil yet before they get sucked in
00:57:24.440 because it's awfully seductive and easy i'd much rather have it exposed so the good people can remain
00:57:32.840 good people and say yeah we're not part of that at all because look at the death cult this is they said
00:57:40.040 that they were just standing up they're not they're now killing babies after birth get out of there
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00:59:34.840 does it sound reasonable to you i mean we're not the only ones that are going to take this and go oh
00:59:42.280 okay that means we're going to say no abortions that's going to take the reins off
00:59:46.920 because the supreme court won't have to decide yeah and that's why i don't think the principle of
00:59:53.080 this is you know sending it to the states while that is obviously at the very least what should
00:59:59.080 happen i mean it should not be legal to kill your children do i like i was thinking about this if you
01:00:04.760 had like a matrix like dystopian future where you would describe this process if we were aliens that came
01:00:13.480 down from another planet and saw that movie would think oh that's a no society would ever do that
01:00:19.240 it really is insane uh you know uh people that are that are totally innocent in every way are just
01:00:29.080 being eliminated from society constantly to the tune of 62 million in the united states alone and by the
01:00:36.920 the way overwhelmingly out of proportion toward minorities as you pointed out one three to one
01:00:43.240 three to one and they're making the argument today that i if you take this away you're taking away the
01:00:47.160 rights mainly of minorities yeah yeah we want them to live yeah we want more here's the thing i know
01:00:53.880 we're so racist but here's the thing the result of our policy means tens of millions of black people
01:01:01.000 being alive three to one what's the result of your policy right all i know is that there's tens of
01:01:07.240 millions of black people that should be here right now interacting with us voting doing all the things
01:01:13.960 that they want to do with their lives and you know where they are nowhere because of you it's
01:01:18.040 that that's not our racism that did that that's you that's your policy on the left that eliminated
01:01:23.000 tens of millions of black people three to one it's almost as if it was by design
01:01:32.440 we are living in the matrix uh i know what that means and people have dismissed it
01:01:40.760 you know zuckerberg's like there's a chance we are already living in the matrix we are just not in
01:01:45.960 the way it was portrayed in the movie and i'm gonna try to get to it this uh uh maybe this hour if
01:01:52.920 not i'll get to it tomorrow write that down the matrix for tomorrow because it has a lot to do with
01:01:59.080 what facebook just did also mike lee is coming up after the top of the hour he knows all these guys
01:02:06.760 and has worked for two of the justices i want to hear what he has to say about the supreme court
01:02:16.600 it's coming up next hour uh i don't know if you've noticed or not but uh our president constantly
01:02:22.600 seems tired and uh and maybe he's that's why he's sleeping all the time you know both on camera
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01:03:50.040 i'm telling you all we have to do is just live by the constitution and the bill of rights every
01:03:57.320 argument you you have with people um you should you should be able to know i can talk to you or not just
01:04:04.600 by asking this when they start they ask you something political they want to talk about
01:04:08.040 political say hey listen i just want to know you know the ground rules here before we talk i want
01:04:13.480 to know if we have enough in common um to be able to discuss things because if we don't have this in
01:04:19.320 common then we're just going to argue and it i'd rather just be your friend and the question is do you
01:04:26.520 agree with the bill of rights do you agree with the bill of rights because if you agree with the bill of
01:04:31.720 rights so many of our problems leave the political realm and become very clear very common sense do
01:04:39.800 you believe in the bill of rights that's why it's so dangerous when politicians say this isn't about
01:04:46.280 your freedom yes it is because once you start cutting the corners of the bill of rights all freedoms are
01:04:54.920 lost because it's a little here and a little there and a little here and then a little more over here
01:04:59.320 and it's all gone and that's the point we're at let me give you an example should the government be
01:05:09.240 able to close you down and drive you out of business without compensation and i mean real compensation
01:05:20.280 i think the lawsuits against the federal government is you put my business out of business
01:05:25.800 business and you should pay for my business because you took it from me and you wouldn't let me open up
01:05:35.880 and if if i tried to stay alive then you came in and you put all kinds of fines on me you even
01:05:43.560 threatened me with jail time i'm going to give you a story that this woman all she did is she has a
01:05:50.200 restaurant she tried to keep it open she faces criminal charges for staying open during covet 19 mandates
01:06:00.120 her jury trial is coming up on monday she could go to prison this is insane lisa hansen is with us now hello lisa
01:06:12.840 hi glenn thank you so much for having me on your show i can't believe i mean most of us feel you
01:06:20.840 know live in texas covet is not a thing anymore it just doesn't bother people down here anymore
01:06:27.480 where are you tell me the story of what happened so i guess just if i can start off with this glenn um
01:06:34.840 i just want to be very clear uh to your listening audience and this has been my message all along you
01:06:39.560 know in the beginning when um all this took place uh this is never the the fight that i'm fighting
01:06:45.400 has never been just about me and my company um if it had just been about me and my company i would
01:06:51.080 have just closed my doors and walked away and figured out how to pay off the debt you know quietly
01:06:55.000 and and gone off into the you know great blue yonder whatever but right this has been about the people
01:07:01.720 of minnesota and really for the people of the united states of america i'm thinking here our children
01:07:07.560 and our grandchildren so just to be clear that's what this is all about there's no way i would have
01:07:13.000 fought this fight just for little old me so what happened glenn back in last year 2020 um you know
01:07:19.160 the governor our governor governor waltz uh closed down uh bars and restaurants and some other small
01:07:25.000 businesses the first part of the year they're early early in the year and uh i complied second shut down
01:07:31.480 and i and i didn't survive the the business somehow we kept our doors open we did everything we could do
01:07:36.360 um you know as entrepreneurs we try to figure it out um but i said i can't survive a second shutdown
01:07:41.800 if he does this again which he did he shut us down a second time in november of 2020 told my husband i
01:07:47.640 said i'm either shutting down permanently closing my doors forever or i am opening up fully because what
01:07:54.680 he's doing what the state is doing against us is wrong so uh i guess it uh you know chose to open
01:08:02.680 up fully um because that was the right thing to do and um it was the right thing to do for for our kids
01:08:09.560 for our grandkids i have eight kids i have nine grandkids with three on the way and i'm thinking of
01:08:14.600 them and future generations and everybody else's kids and grandkids right this is america so so they
01:08:21.160 the once i opened back up fully uh stopped following the uh unlawful mandates that are not law um governor
01:08:29.160 can't make laws uh the state comes after me hard and heavy and uh uh files criminal and civil charges
01:08:36.520 against me and that's what i've been dealing with and we're going on almost a year now that was
01:08:40.760 december 16th last year when i opened my doors fully the day after i got a cease and desist from the state
01:08:46.280 so and in minnesota i just want to make sure in minnesota the government the governor has no right to
01:08:53.240 enact a law and no authority with the executive branch to enforce even the emergency orders is that
01:08:59.720 right absolutely right he has no authority uh there's no authority the executive branch has no authority to
01:09:07.320 enforce his executive orders he didn't even have he calls it a a uh act of nature which in in uh 2005
01:09:16.520 the legislation actually took away the power or the authority for governor to enact uh an act of
01:09:24.200 nature uh uh it was the emergency order yeah due to for emergency order right so instead he in his
01:09:31.880 executive order he calls it excuse me not active nature i'm using the wrong terminology here he called
01:09:37.400 it a uh act he called it an act of nature but in the next uh sentence uh in his executive order if you'll
01:09:44.520 look at it um it is actually he refers to the federal government calling it a health emergency
01:09:53.080 which so which that the health emergency is what the legislature removed uh from the governor to be
01:10:01.640 able to to be able to enact that sort of mandate so anyway we have so much corruption on every level
01:10:08.360 not only is you know the the executive branch um i i guess the best way to describe what's happening
01:10:14.280 is that the judiciary is in lockstep with the executive branch and allowing the governor to
01:10:19.480 usurp the limitations of power that are placed upon him by the state and federal constitutions
01:10:25.720 so the judicial corruption involved are in my case cases involves a refusal to address legal issues
01:10:33.800 absolute refusal um that have answered if they were answered by a truly independent judiciary
01:10:41.160 having the duty to protect the rights of the people from the usurpation of the power by by the
01:10:46.680 legislative and executive branches it would destroy the power structure that now has the people serving
01:10:52.840 the government contrary to the original original order of sovereignty of god man government that's really
01:11:00.520 what we're dealing with your your problem in minnesota is you've got george soros affecting your
01:11:06.760 judiciary and you also have keith ellison as your attorney general i mean you're in trouble up there
01:11:13.240 those are those are two major problems aren't they yes they are they are yeah yeah so what we have as
01:11:19.720 far as the the judiciary process here is uh you know i've had a very um i i work with a great team
01:11:26.760 national action task force um they've been uh you know helping me uh as i'm going through this and and i
01:11:33.480 present as sui juris or some people might want to say pro se um and and so i don't have a lawyer and
01:11:41.320 the reason that i'm doing that and i think this is really important glenn what i've seen from other
01:11:46.200 folks in the state of minnesota going through the same thing that i am where they defied the governor's
01:11:50.520 suggestion to shut down um you know state comes after them they hire a lawyer what i'm seeing happening
01:11:57.960 is they're losing their cases they're making plea deals with with the government and and i said that
01:12:03.880 that's not going to do what we what we are looking for is we're looking for a return of liberties and
01:12:09.080 freedoms in the state of minnesota so and so the only way to be able to do that is to go into this uh
01:12:15.160 court of law without an attorney because attorneys are so dang limited so i'm i just i you know i i've
01:12:22.200 watched enough matlock and and enough uh uh uh uh la law to know not having an attorney is usually frowned upon
01:12:36.520 and especially in the state of minnesota they don't like it when you step outside of the uh the
01:12:41.480 rules of their game and so they have tried to force me in fact in the civil case glenn i'll let you know
01:12:47.080 this the civil case has actually been ruled upon by a by a judge and um he he ruled he would not
01:12:55.960 allow me listen to this i'm a single shareholder i own my company i'm the only shareholder
01:13:03.160 he would not allow me to represent my company that was being sued by the state although even though
01:13:12.040 the statutes the minnesota statutes clearly allow a single shareholder to represent their company
01:13:18.920 he would not allow it and so therefore i was not allowed in the courtroom um and therefore i have
01:13:25.640 what that's an eighteen thousand dollar fine or a sanctioned against me uh because i supposedly lost that
01:13:31.560 case because he would not allow me he wouldn't follow the law and allow me to uh represent my company
01:13:36.920 i uh this is insane what's going on you're looking at what almost three years in jail right
01:13:48.120 right uh-huh it's a real possibility 810 days that's how i say 800 and 10 days yeah up to nine thousand
01:13:57.320 dollars in fines um so so pre-trial happened last week uh the day before thanksgiving we went into
01:14:04.600 pre-trial it was probably i was told it was the long one of the longest pre-trials or maybe the
01:14:08.360 longest pre-trial in the history of one of the uh deputies that was there uh uh uh watching over
01:14:14.360 the case and uh there's almost a three-hour pre-trial the reason it was so long is because
01:14:20.120 there are so many legal constitutional statutory legal issues on the record and i went point by point
01:14:26.200 by point with the judge now in a pre-trial according to statute uh the judge is required to
01:14:32.440 hear and to make determinations correct at that pre-trial correct no determination was made zero
01:14:39.400 determinations were made now i'm going into pre-trial on monday december 6th with with no
01:14:46.280 sorry not pre-trial jury trial i'm going into jury trial on monday december 6th i have no determinant
01:14:52.680 no determinations have been been made no rulings have been made no answers have been given to me
01:14:58.200 on all my uh legal issues and i did send you that document um i know it's a lot to go through but
01:15:03.880 it's really interesting to see how this is all playing out it's as if there's no rule of law
01:15:08.920 anymore the judge should have and you know what glenn i still have no today is thursday a week later i
01:15:16.200 still have no determination from the judge on so how are you supposed to be i mean is a judge just going
01:15:22.040 to tell you oh yeah you can't bring that up you can't do that during the trial what i wouldn't be
01:15:28.600 surprised i won't be surprised and i will stand on my constitutional and common law rights i will
01:15:34.760 absolutely stand on the on what is what is is given to us as as the people um i'm going to hold his his
01:15:42.360 feet to the fire and and he's he's he's got to do one of two things he's got to allow me to present
01:15:48.040 my defense i i have the right to defend myself so let me let me ask you is there is is there video
01:15:56.440 allowed in this trial i mean do they have a a camera that you can get public access for
01:16:04.360 well well if i understand you correctly um um no there's no video no audio allowed in this public
01:16:11.480 trial mind you find out find out about that because i i would love to i'd love to have some attorneys
01:16:17.480 uh watch this uh this should be this should be seen um uh if not i'd like to know somebody who
01:16:25.720 is a a real journalist that is on the freedom side that could actually go to the court or maybe maybe
01:16:32.120 there's somebody in our audience that is a very good attorney that could go sit in the court and give
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01:18:26.600 we have mike lee coming in in just a minute he's going to tell us all about uh what his thoughts
01:18:34.200 are on the um the abortion case roe versus wade uh yesterday from mississippi and in the supreme
01:18:42.840 court we're going to talk to him about that stand by for that i wonder if he can find this right in
01:18:47.400 the constitution maybe he's been able to locate it maybe yeah um there is also uh the audio if we have
01:18:53.800 it and can if we have time to play it the nbc news audio this is coming from the um the rittenhouse
01:19:02.520 jury trial where nbc had one of their reporters and photographers trying to follow the jury van
01:19:10.200 they said in a statement they never did that they never did that that's that's not what this is the
01:19:15.640 actual audio and video from the cop's vest look at this what's the significance of you being here
01:19:22.280 i work for nbc for nbc nbc okay you're a reporter producer producer okay all right
01:19:32.600 yeah
01:19:35.400 they stopped him going through a red light so you were you following a vehicle
01:19:39.480 i was trying to see i was being called by new york going maybe
01:19:46.600 people need to follow but i i don't know i was trying to you trying to what just do what they
01:19:53.160 told me to do new york told you to follow a vehicle yeah your what your offices in new york or what
01:20:00.200 that's right how did they know about this vehicle
01:20:06.040 i mean it was discreet i wasn't like you know talk to anybody just trying to find a location
01:20:12.680 that's all that's incredible so remember nbc died somebody this he's told to follow this vehicle from
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01:20:41.320 i've heard a lot of people talk about what happened in the supreme court yesterday there
01:20:44.600 is only one person i really trust uh who i think really knows and uh could also very well be the
01:20:53.480 next supreme court justice the combo it's mike lee senator from uh utah he has clerked for i think
01:21:01.400 two of the supreme court justices one of them i think just passed away but he's clerked for two
01:21:07.640 of them he knows these guys and uh he's going to give us his read on what happened yesterday with
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01:22:43.640 so there's an amicus brief that was filed uh mike lee ted cruz josh holly uh as a friend of the court
01:22:53.180 supporting this mississippi law we wanted to get mike lee's thoughts on uh what happened yesterday and
01:23:01.960 where the court may be headed hi mike hello good to be with you yeah good to have you so tell me i'm
01:23:09.660 i'm i can't wait to hear look there were really strong arguments made yesterday they made it a great
01:23:19.760 case against roe and against casey at the end of the day is i pointed out in the front of the court
01:23:27.500 brief that i submitted along with senators holly and cruz there isn't a constitutional case
01:23:35.140 to be made for roe and casey nor is there a case for applying stare decisis deferring to the court's
01:23:42.940 own prior precedence here because that precedent is proven so unworkable shoot the lower courts
01:23:48.800 let alone the supreme court itself can't even agree on what roe and casey mean and what its outer
01:23:55.360 bound limits are and for that very reason it it can't stand but there's a reason for that when
01:24:03.240 you make something up out of whole cloth when it has no foundation at all in the constitution or in
01:24:08.880 500 years of anglo-american jurisprudence things are going to get really messed up and that's exactly
01:24:15.740 what has happened i think yesterday a compelling case was made for the fact that roe and casey
01:24:21.540 will be overruled and that the mississippi law will be upheld so in your conclusion on this amicus brief
01:24:27.800 you say the status quo is unattainable where legal doctrine has repeatedly failed to offer clarity
01:24:35.100 where it is proved unworkable in the past and will likely engender unpredictable consequences in the
01:24:41.000 future its existence constitutes an open invitation to judges to interpret it according to their own
01:24:46.980 policy preferences usurping the constitutional prerogatives of the legislature um that actually i think is
01:24:55.600 the the other side feels kind of the same way that you can't have you you cannot um have a halfway measure
01:25:06.320 here it's either all in or all out yeah i i think i think that's right and i think the answer has to be
01:25:15.540 all in the reason glenn is this is a legislative determination it is not a judicial one it's not
01:25:22.220 rooted in the constitution and to be very very clear i it's important to to to remind ourselves
01:25:28.700 that overturning roe and casey does not mean that abortion would all of a sudden automatically be
01:25:37.000 unlawful uh throughout the united states of america doesn't make it illegal doesn't make it criminal
01:25:43.420 it simply says people can decide these things through their elected lawmakers and the folks in
01:25:50.220 mississippi have decided that they want to protect unborn human life after 15 weeks of development
01:25:55.480 after the baby has developed eyelids and fingers and toes and the baby can suck her thumb other states
01:26:02.640 might decide to do differently i suspect that the abortion laws in massachusetts and new york
01:26:09.220 post overturning of roe and casey would look different from those in mississippi oh yeah or utah
01:26:15.140 i think mike i think they're going to that's what we live in that's our government i think that we are
01:26:19.800 looking at the you know because we're not going to limit it to 15 weeks if this is overturned
01:26:26.340 texas and mississippi they're going to say no no abortion here but you're going to see the opposite
01:26:31.820 in california and massachusetts and and new york you're going to see yeah well maybe i can kill them
01:26:38.580 after they're after they're born because that's really where they're going it's a death cult and that's
01:26:43.320 really where they're headed that's what they want and uh i think you're going to see i think you're going
01:26:49.600 to see some real um crazy uh but eye-opening decisions in states if this is overturned would you agree
01:26:59.220 with that yes i i think that's absolutely right that's that's how the constitution works people
01:27:07.240 are allowed to enact foolish crazy ridiculous laws in their respective states uh not every bad idea
01:27:17.540 is unconstitutional and no matter how bad their laws get in this area it doesn't mean that they
01:27:25.460 can't do it our constitutional structure is set up in such a way as to allow people to enact
01:27:29.900 the laws that they deem appropriate so subject to certain limitations imposed on the states by
01:27:35.400 the constitution as long as you don't transgress one of those and an abortion isn't on the list
01:27:40.240 of things that states can't do in the constitution then you're okay so when you had i think it was
01:27:46.200 kagan yesterday that said um you know there's lots of things no sotomayor there's a lot of things that
01:27:54.920 are not in the constitution i actually cheered for that because they were going for what what
01:28:01.560 specifically what right in the constitution is being violated and they couldn't really come up
01:28:07.400 with one there was they asked several times what is it that you're saying is constitutionally protected
01:28:13.580 here um and sotomayor came out and said well there's lots of things that aren't in the constitution
01:28:19.520 well yes doesn't that make the case for mississippi that it goes back according to the 10th amendment
01:28:28.240 to the people and the states yes that is absolutely what it says by the way speaking of justice
01:28:38.280 sotomayor i thought she was very tone deaf on this and so many issues one low light of the entire
01:28:45.700 conversation was when justice so my or very offensively stated that a baby's reaction to
01:28:51.880 painful stimuli in the womb does not necessarily indicate that the child in fact feels pain and
01:28:58.380 she referenced people in vegetative states that have some muscle movement the painful stimulus
01:29:05.300 what the heck is that supposed to mean hang on just a second let me play that cut
01:29:09.540 cut 18 from sotomayor here here's what he's talking about the literature is filled with episodes of
01:29:17.720 people who are completely and utterly brain dread responding to stimuli um it there's about 40 percent
01:29:27.340 of dead people who if you touch their feet the foot will recoil there are spontaneous acts by dead brain
01:29:36.500 people so i don't think that a response to uh by a fetus necessarily proves that there's a sensation of pain
01:29:51.000 or that there's consciousness well what what position a the the science will show that's not true follow
01:29:59.100 the science i hate to say that um the science will show that's not true but what in her judicial role mike
01:30:05.840 gives her thought that maybe that's a good constitutional point to throw out there
01:30:12.880 i i almost hesitate to answer the question because it's so gruesome but i think she somehow thinks
01:30:21.460 that unless a person is able to communicate with the world if they are in a vegetative state or
01:30:28.960 if they are as she put it dead brain people i don't know what a dead brain person is i assume she
01:30:35.220 meant brain dead people uh that that that they're not human life see that's that's the essence of what
01:30:41.920 we're dealing with here we're dealing with human beings who are deemed less than human glenn bad
01:30:49.700 things happen in any civilization bad things have happened in our civilization whenever we have allowed
01:30:55.760 societies to treat some people as not human that's exactly what's happening here and they've made it
01:31:02.640 up out of whole cloth look we need to get back to the constitution here and we need to allow
01:31:09.500 elected lawmakers to make laws not nine lawyers dressed up in robes i will tell you this mike that i really
01:31:17.280 believe i read an article that said pretty much the same thing today um from the federalist
01:31:23.380 uh that the response will be in the end from the right mike lee that mike lee uh will be the next supreme court
01:31:35.980 justice if this fails um we are so fed up with with uh you know giving and well we're just gonna trust and
01:31:45.600 we didn't really know for sure we want to know we want to know it's time to know
01:31:51.380 do you believe that that is a constitutionally protected right or not and if you say no uh it's not
01:31:59.180 great if you say well i'm not sure i wouldn't want to speak out about the goodbye it's time to know
01:32:07.120 that our supreme court justices understand the constitution and read it the same way as the people
01:32:15.400 who are electing the president to choose that person
01:32:19.520 it would be a novel concept for us to know that it's especially important when you live in an era
01:32:28.820 in which judges have taken upon themselves the mantle of lawmakers i look forward to the day
01:32:34.980 when that's no longer the case but i want to be very clear this is that case
01:32:41.300 this needs to happen now in this case there isn't really going to be a better opportunity
01:32:48.800 than this case if they try to find a middle ground on this one if they try to preserve
01:32:53.920 rowan casey while upholding this law it doesn't work why not going to work because we will be saddled
01:33:01.100 with the same infirm foundation that we've had for 48 years look uh there were 19 years that passed
01:33:09.340 between when rowe was decided in 1973 and casey was decided in 1992 the time that was uh that that
01:33:17.900 decision was rendered justice kennedy proclaimed for the court of okay the debate is finally over
01:33:22.800 we're finally putting this to rest 19 years after row 29 years have now elapsed since casey to now
01:33:30.180 it hasn't been put to rest and it hasn't been because it's built on nothing
01:33:37.160 and you can't take a debatable matter in society and render it beyond debate while quoting the
01:33:44.640 constitution unless what you're quoting from the constitution actually supports what you say it
01:33:49.860 does this isn't going away this case has to be decided and that decision has to involve overturning
01:33:56.600 rowe versus wade looking at their case on the other side fairly from their perspective can you find
01:34:03.980 anything in what they say that ties to the constitution not the way you read it but the
01:34:10.620 way they read it can you find because i couldn't find it yesterday and the i think that uh thomas and
01:34:17.420 others were like where what are we talking about can you find what they're saying is constitutionally
01:34:24.620 protected no no you can't find it and and have they articulated anything yeah yeah well if if they
01:34:35.100 explain now very rarely when you try to pin someone down will they go through all the motions uh to
01:34:41.800 explain it but if you did if you could for those who could go through the analysis they couldn't do it
01:34:47.160 without falling back on these really weird terms talking about emanations collectively overlapping and
01:34:57.420 forming penumbras going out from freestanding existing constitutional protections that are
01:35:04.100 themselves broad enough to cover privacy within the marital bedroom extending to the killing of an
01:35:11.740 unborn child those kinds of verbal gymnastics are what you have to go through uh adding inference upon
01:35:18.920 inference based on language that's not even in the constitution that's how they got to the fifth
01:35:26.740 amendment i think because i heard them quote the fifth amendment i'm looking at it i'm like there's
01:35:30.360 nothing in the fifth amendment that would even remotely cover abortion is there okay so so they would have
01:35:40.020 been more likely referring to the due process clause of the 14th amendment we're dealing with the state
01:35:45.580 law here the 14th amendment's due process clause deals with the states the fifth amendment's due process
01:35:51.120 clause deals with congress with the federal government and so they they believe that it's an outgrowth of
01:35:57.560 due process therefore the 14th amendment's version of the due process clause and that due process when read
01:36:04.860 in conjunction with other freestanding uh protections in the bill of rights uh includes abortion because
01:36:14.160 there are emanations from each of those freestanding uh protections in those form penumbras of these
01:36:19.380 shadowy things it makes no sense look when when my when my twin boys james and john were in junior high
01:36:25.380 i required them to read briswold versus connecticut which was the predecessor case to roe versus
01:36:30.480 wait i put them in different parts of the house i wanted them to read it and just see what they
01:36:34.220 thought they could both recognize in junior high that this was made up that this was like an insult
01:36:42.480 to verbal gymnastics these were contortions they were deceptions let me let me pretend i didn't know
01:36:48.400 that in his lawmakers let me pretend i didn't know that case by heart what was the name of it again
01:36:53.040 you had your sons read connecticut what is it yes griswold versus griswold versus connecticut okay
01:36:59.880 i'm sure this is discussed all the time at dinner table and oh yeah and my kids i had them read it
01:37:05.180 you know but long before york i had them read it in fourth grade but that's a different story
01:37:08.580 um real quick guys i've got to go to a network break but mike how does this end do you think
01:37:14.720 i believe it ends with the overturning of roe versus wade i think there will likely be five votes
01:37:21.580 possibly six to overturn roe and casey the supreme court the nine justices alone no staff
01:37:29.540 anyone else will meet tomorrow afternoon in private to discuss the case the case will then
01:37:36.600 be more or less decided we won't know what the outcome is until likely late june wow so mike if
01:37:43.420 you're a praying person i'd encourage you to pray for the court between now and tomorrow thank you so
01:37:48.900 much god bless you mike thanks thank you senator mike lee uh from utah and i hope someday supreme court
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01:38:58.420 okay i i kind of frames things differently for me i like the optimism i do too from mike lee
01:39:12.120 and mike is mike is not an optimistic guy when it comes to supreme court usually yes i mean he's i've
01:39:20.040 talked to him you know through obamacare and everything else and he's like look this is what
01:39:24.740 it says but i don't think they're going i don't this is what should be done but i don't think
01:39:29.520 they're going to do that well this is as he pointed out the opportunity right this entire i don't think
01:39:34.820 my whole life that i remember an opportunity like this in the casey case was in the 90s and really the
01:39:42.560 last chance to to take this on just you know full force but this is a court that was you know it
01:39:49.680 actually seems to look at the constitution and care about what's inside of it and they don't get
01:39:54.360 everything right but it's going that way it's going that way this is the first real example
01:40:01.020 where they could set something right you know that it's it's rare that you see something this big
01:40:09.300 go back to the people and that's that's all that we're arguing about here really it's all the case
01:40:16.840 is about that's all this case is about it's not about abortion it's about who decides this
01:40:24.080 philosophical buzzsaw we don't like to talk about it because everybody has a different point of view
01:40:32.640 and that's what this case really is all about do these nine people have the right to make the decision
01:40:42.320 about something so divisive as this where people don't really know
01:40:49.080 or should it be left into the hands as close to the people as possible because the people in new york
01:40:56.560 might think something different than the people here in texas and i know the people in texas think
01:41:01.260 different thoughts than they do in california and why should we have to live under the california kind of
01:41:07.060 mindset and have them rule over our conscience and why should why should texans have their conscience
01:41:16.080 rule over the people that are living in new york and that's the case they're making to the supreme court
01:41:21.340 yes that i don't believe is the correct principle in this particular matter this is murder so it's
01:41:26.280 so it's different you don't get to make up your own state laws we're gonna allow it right but that
01:41:31.240 is the argument that's in the front of the supreme court it's not about abortion it's about do you
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01:43:06.320 i want to say hello to a very dear friend of mine uh somebody i have
01:43:16.680 more respect for than almost anybody i know uh his name is edwin black uh he is the host of the podcast
01:43:26.260 the edwin black show he is the author of ibm and the holocaust uh and a book that i am rereading
01:43:32.740 right now the far hood uh which is everybody should read this book um it's phenomenal what you will learn
01:43:41.440 about history that you had no idea um we talked about uh having him on a few days ago um for the
01:43:48.640 anniversary of and i'm going to butcher this edwin i'm sorry yom hagi rush yom hagi you pronounced it
01:43:57.100 perfectly okay you're such a good liar uh well i i am not familiar with the day of expulsion can you
01:44:05.280 tell me what what that is yes the day of expulsion yom hagi rush is actually a commercial a commemoration
01:44:14.860 day that i personally proclaimed and conceived it denotes the sad tragedy of some 15 arab countries
01:44:25.760 publicly and prominently and in a coordinated fashion expelling some 850 000 of their jewish
01:44:35.580 residents penniless and stateless many of whom were forced by this move to be airlifted on emergency
01:44:44.780 basis to israel it was forgotten by many in the community i resurrected it when i uh brought the
01:44:53.600 far hood and the arab nazi alliance to the fore and uh in 2014 the israeli government decided that this
01:45:03.360 would be a worldwide observance of this expulsion but it had no no name and the word yom hagi rush
01:45:11.000 means day of the expulsion and in conjunction with my colleagues i was able to get identification
01:45:18.340 and identity for this november 30th for november 30th which we just observed and forevermore as the
01:45:27.260 day of regret when 850 000 men women and children many of whom their families had lived in uh these
01:45:36.580 countries for 2700 years were summarily expelled without a penny to their name and stateless and
01:45:46.780 had to be rescued what year did this happen this happened in me it was warned it was on the front
01:45:53.680 page of the new york times it was done in broad daylight it was argued at the u.n this occurred
01:45:59.700 just after the partition vote uh u.n resolution 181 that said there would be two states a jewish state and
01:46:09.320 an arab state now at that time the word palestinian only meant to jewish zionist in 1964 there was
01:46:18.560 identity theft and the arabs in the area with the help of the kgb which had invented the palestine
01:46:26.460 liberation organization expropriated the name palestinians and so this occurred just within
01:46:34.400 five years of the world learning that six million jews had uh been exterminated by the nazis and
01:46:43.400 ironically the only international organization that helped the nazis in their persecution of the jews
01:46:52.180 was the international arab community through the arab higher committee and that was led by the mufti of
01:47:01.220 jerusalem al husseini edwin i have to have you back in studio with me because we've we have uh we've
01:47:09.740 collected a few things um from the arab nazis that are just phenomenal i showed people when they come by
01:47:18.120 on a tour and they're like wait wait what uh and it's just the the the history that is not taught
01:47:28.000 you will completely unlock the understanding of what's happening in the middle east and be able to
01:47:33.800 see good versus evil so clearly when you understand the pretty recent history of the nazi influence uh in uh
01:47:45.580 in the middle east um could you just let me change subjects here for just a second um ibm and the
01:47:50.960 holocaust you were on with me i think for a podcast and we went over um oh gosh what was his name the
01:47:59.500 the guy from that was the head of ibm during world war ii watson jay watson okay can you just quickly in
01:48:07.500 two minutes tell the story i mean it's important to understand watson is the name of the ibm uh
01:48:16.780 computer that they are now using to diagnose people they this is going to be the replacement
01:48:24.100 for your doctor and i believe it's a a good thing and b is going to happen um but it will be able to look
01:48:31.680 at all of disease and and everybody's records and be able to go that's probably what you have and it'll
01:48:39.080 be much more accurate but it's called watson and what's terrifying about this is the arrogance of ibm
01:48:47.540 and the people involved with this to call it watson because who was he edwin well thomas j watson or
01:48:55.720 first of all yes we need every medical advance and every medical automation that we can possibly
01:49:02.660 invent but it doesn't need to be named for a sociopathic war criminal yes thomas j watson who
01:49:11.060 was a convicted extortionist before he ever came to ibm and who personally micromanaged all the
01:49:19.540 collaboration with the third reich that automated all six phases of the holocaust that's the
01:49:27.880 identification of the jews the expulsion from society the confiscation of their assets their
01:49:34.460 ghettoization their deportation on trains and even their extermination my book ibm and the holocaust just
01:49:42.800 hit its 20th anniversary not a comma has been changed ibm over the past two decades
01:49:50.040 we've lost him are you there no you're breaking up you said after two decades not a comma has changed
01:49:59.700 even though ibm has fought you no ibm has has been silent they have never denied a single their
01:50:08.280 surrogates their surrogates in the press have fought you oh yeah of course but but the book
01:50:14.700 has withstood the test of time not a single comma has been changed ibm has never privately or publicly
01:50:22.580 denied any sentence within the book and remember thomas j watson received a medal from adolf hitler in
01:50:32.100 in berlin that was invented specifically to honor the single foreigner who was the most helpful to
01:50:39.840 the third reich so it is really frightening because it's not just history that people don't know and
01:50:45.640 now this is what they're calling their medical um uh device at ibm named after him he was instrumental
01:50:52.700 uh and knew absolutely knew what was going on in the concentration camps ibm people were repairing
01:51:00.360 those things every two weeks and edwin has all of the documents in this book um but it's also not
01:51:08.540 just for history it is for the future look at where look at how these giant information companies
01:51:16.800 facebook google uh all of these companies are now working hand in hand and helping the chinese
01:51:25.160 round people up for their concentration camps nothing has happened nothing has changed ibm and the
01:51:33.360 holocaust well google and the uh internment of the uyghurs we know that's a genocide they haven't
01:51:42.260 changed because nobody's been ever held responsible for it am i wrong edwin there is no question that
01:51:49.800 those who uh uh uh uh state never again have been shocked to certify that never again is now and now
01:51:59.760 means the uyghurs the uyghurs there's probably a million of them have have been rounded up uh their
01:52:07.220 children have been seized their women have been sterilized and raped they're in concentration camp
01:52:13.280 there's forced labor and what we are seeing is we're seeing an mba and a lebron james who take a
01:52:21.380 knee for justice on a knee pad and with a shoe made by slave labor and uyghur cotton uh cotton in
01:52:30.500 communist china okay let me ask you uh one last question we last time you were on um i think the radio
01:52:38.420 program we had just done a podcast with you where you laid out the i can't remember seven or eight
01:52:45.080 steps uh to the holocaust and you said you could have even all uh seven steps in place but still
01:52:53.420 be a long way away from the holocaust so it doesn't guarantee anything have we since we spoke maybe a year
01:53:01.460 ago are we closer or further away which direction are we headed
01:53:06.980 that's a weird time for it to cut off is he there he's there there you okay there you are go ahead
01:53:19.460 the wrong direction okay we're if we're breaking up again let me just take a quick break see if we can
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01:54:39.340 truly and you you don't hear me say this i don't think uh very often if ever uh one of my real heroes
01:54:52.620 in life today and i think the bravest man i know and a guy who has dedicated his life to truth
01:55:00.880 against all odds uh is edwin black and i i so respect him and it's an honor to have you
01:55:09.320 him on the program again uh the host of the edwin black uh show which is um a podcast author of ibm and
01:55:16.820 the holocaust and the far hood uh f-a-r-h-u-d a must read for anybody who is interested in what's
01:55:24.940 really going on in the middle east if you want to understand it uh from the perspective of history
01:55:29.940 edwin um you lined up all of the steps of the holocaust can you go through those what is it seven
01:55:36.800 or eight steps yes i will but just to answer your question before we were cut off whether we're
01:55:43.960 getting closer or further away from the events that uh occurred during world war ii the answer is
01:55:51.080 we're going in the wrong direction the first step that ibm outlined in concert with hit with hitler's
01:56:00.460 request for a final solution was identification well everyone is now identified the second step
01:56:08.520 wait wait wait and we are going worse on that this talk of these uh biometric passports
01:56:14.800 is is really i mean that's hitler's dream
01:56:19.660 yes um what uh
01:56:23.820 might occur over years has now taken place within a matter of months and that is
01:56:33.940 the identification of everyone not only who they are who they know but where they are and probably
01:56:41.780 where they have been and where they are going so step one is identification step two is exclusion
01:56:48.100 once people are are identified they're excluded from society in the case of of the nazis uh the jews
01:56:56.600 were fired uh from their jobs uh they were kicked out of associations step three is expropriation
01:57:05.720 cooperization special fines uh seizure of assets a criminalization of conduct with financial
01:57:14.860 penalty penalty wow we have since we talked with we have made massive progress in the wrong
01:57:23.360 uh direction on all three of those massive well i just i just heard that uh it might be austria i'm not
01:57:31.280 sure one of one of the overseas countries is planning on finding people uh four thousand dollars
01:57:37.880 if they have not yet been vaccinated uh uh the next step after pauperization is ghettoization
01:57:46.440 and i should say that in the northern territories of australia they're now speaking of creating camps
01:57:54.140 yeah they are the unvaccinated especially among the aborigines
01:57:58.380 uh obviously nobody wants to get into uh step five and step six step five was deportation
01:58:07.540 and step six is extermination ibm assisted in that but of course that's not even a discussable matter
01:58:17.120 at this point right um and those last two even if we have the even if we have six out of the seven
01:58:24.160 it's still not what the nazis did uh and we still can turn it around but it becomes more and more
01:58:32.360 difficult because if you get the wrong people in power on either side you get the wrong people in
01:58:39.100 power and they turn this machine on and what happened over a decade and a half or a decade for sure
01:58:47.440 in uh germany uh happens overnight overnight we are we are uh several horizons uh away from an
01:58:59.600 irretrievable step correct right now there is absolutely time to uh seize control of the situation
01:59:07.200 to reverse the situation i was just writing yesterday that in my book war against the week which you know
01:59:13.720 on eugenics uh in connecticut in 1938 uh the governor had organized a program a program where people
01:59:23.300 went door to door yep made um uh a public health assessment of their of their eugenic or genetic
01:59:30.580 health and then those who did not fear they planned to um uh to expel into the ozarks to special camps
01:59:40.360 isn't that crazy i mean if you haven't if you don't know any of this you need to read edwin
01:59:46.820 black's books um ibm and the holocaust uh the war on the week is unbelievable edwin black the edwin
01:59:55.780 black show you can find his podcast everywhere this is the glenn back program
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