Will Trump’s Release of MLK & JFK Files Reveal the DARK TRUTH? | Guests: Erik Prince & Dan Hendrycks | 1⧸24⧸25
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In this episode of the Glenn Beck Program, host Glenn Beck sits down with President Obama to discuss a variety of topics, including the devastating L.A. fires, the upcoming Super Bowl, and much more. Plus, a look at the latest in sports and politics.
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the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment this is the glenn beck program
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hello america welcome to the glenn beck program we're so glad you're here there's a lot going on
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more things that trump has done we're going to talk some more about ai today uh also barack
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obama leaving leaving michelle for jennifer aniston i have no idea i have no idea but also
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yesterday uh donald trump decided that he was going to release the martin luther king file the
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jfk and rfk files in its entirety next week what's in those we'll give you a preview coming up in just
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hello stew how are you i'm doing well glenn thank you good you're wearing your most obnoxious eagles
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uh sweatshirt that's right uh because we made a deal obviously earlier in the week that since two
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of our teams are in the final four yeah i would wear my uh eagle stuff you'd wear your chief stuff so
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well okay wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait oh wait a minute i think i can get can i
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can i get away with this being chief stuff it's indian i mean it's native america no it's not it's blue
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okay well you didn't live up to your side no i forgot i forgot but uh believe me i am rooting for
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the eagles to go down in flames oh really i figured you'd want them to win go to the super bowl and then
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lose to the chiefs i figured that would be your preference no you'd rather have that would be more
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painful for you yeah partially uh big weekend uh this weekend all right we're gonna talk about uh
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let's talk about what's happening in washington dc the martin luther king family uh has
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reacted to trump's executive order and as has the jfk family uh they both say this is a political
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stunt i don't know how it's a political stunt it was supposed to come out in 2027 no it was supposed
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to come out when in the in the teens the 20 teens and then it kept being delayed delayed then donald
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trump delayed it last term uh joe biden i i he might have thought he was jfk for a while i'm not
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really sure or martin luther king um and then it's come up again and people are tired of secrets
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and so donald trump said he would start releasing some of the secrets that should be released and and
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a few of those are the rfk files the jfk files and the mlk files uh so
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what do they say well the martin luther king family they'd like to see everything first
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i don't know if you get that privilege um but uh okay why oh you happen to remember what uh was said
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about these files last time um last time they were about to come out the guy who is the martin luther king
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authorized biographer has uh come out and said really bad things are in this file we all know
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that he was a philanderer and you know i have to tell you as i get older uh i have more tolerance
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for people who did amazing things uh because i don't i perfect people aren't the ones that usually
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stand up and say i'm gonna risk my life for that cause perfect people are usually the ones
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that are like uh no i've got way too much to lose here martin luther king was not the first guy that
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was approached to lead this movement just like rosa parks wasn't the first one on the bus the second
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one was two or the first one was too flawed she was a teenager that was pregnant and they didn't
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think that she would garner enough sympathy sympathy the the other pastors that were approached to
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lead this movement all said i got way too much to lose no no they knew what it meant martin luther king
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was the first one that stood up and i think the same could be said for donald trump he's not a perfect
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guy but he's the first one that would say yeah i'll risk my life for it i'll do it i'll stand i mean
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who else gets up from an assassination and looks at the crowd and says fight that's pretty amazing
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so they're not perfect people but martin luther king uh you know we know he was unfaithful but
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apparently what is in this file is really not good yeah that's uh that's one way to state it first it
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looks like there's an fbi letter uh that was trying to blackmail uh martin luther king so
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something bad on the government trying to blackmail him and say you know basically kill yourself or this
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is coming out um but then there is information uh on intimate relationships with at least three women
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one in atlanta one in mount vernon one in uh new york one in washington dc another memo refers to
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a recording where king looked on this is according to his biographer where king quoting looked on and
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laughed as the pastor of baltimore's cornerstone baptist church allegedly raped a woman in the
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willard hotel now that pastor died in 1991 so there's no way for to verify the fbi's information
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it's not clear whether the agents involved were transcribing the true reality of his private life or
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creating gossip we don't know um but and they did we'll see obviously try to hurt him and his
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reputation that's kind of known and it's been known for a long time the question is is this stuff true i
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mean as you point out the guy who came out with this information in 2019 i think i think it was
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is a very reputable guy you know again pulitzer prize winning biographer right right and authorized by
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the king family so this is the guy who the king family has said is credible yeah and it's hard to
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believe this lands in any other place than them saying well the government did this and right you
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know they're going to deny it i think right um well i mean here's i mean it does a tape exist the letter
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is 500 words claims to be from an african-american who supported the civil rights movement it was however
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we know written by the fbi it it accuses king of immoral conduct lower than that of a beast i'm
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quoting and a giant liability to all of us negroes quoting um i figured that was a quote glenn yeah you
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didn't have to tell us that you well i wanted to make sure it encourages i don't know something about
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your background i don't know uh it encourages king to listen to an endorsed uh an enclosed tape so we
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don't know if the tape exists uh the writer tells king it's all there on the record your sexual orgies
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listen to yourself you filthy abnormal animal you are on record you have been on record all of your
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adulterous acts your sexual orgies extending far into the past but this one uh is but a tiny sample
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you have 34 days in which to do dot dot dot there is only one way out for you you better take it before
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your filthy abnormal fraudulent self is bared to the nation so i mean it's not going to make the fbi
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look good and it may not make martin luther king look good the other one too glenn you mentioned the
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affairs which are well known right yeah uh the biographer says it's been well known for 35 to 40
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years that there have been multiple other girlfriends i always thought that there were probably 10 or 12
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over the course of four to five years this new material makes clear that the total is more like
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40 to 45 wow i mean it's getting a lot of work done there that's that's you're you're a busy b
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yeah 40 to 45 plus uh the civil rights uh stuff wow it's a busy schedule when you have time to eat
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right yeah uh the 32 year old grandson of jfk uh made an announcement yesterday about jfk's assassination
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file being opened he said uh that this is nothing more uh than um a grand scheme uh let's see here
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grand scheme yeah he said there is no grand scheme uh to to kill the president uh jfk um and this scheme
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is just being a political prop using john f kennedy as a political prop for um trump how why i don't
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know it's hard to even hard to even understand a lot i mean look you know why what's why would
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you not want to know this what year is this it's 2025 yeah this happened a long time ago right it's
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about time we know what actually went on there yes and look there's going to be i'm sure some bad
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things some things that probably look good for these guys and some that look bad uh but who cares
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who cares like they're historical figures just want the true history that's all i want that's all i
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want i've already done a movie about it it's time to find out what's going on right and
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i mean if you want the country to survive you have to be transparent i want to know all of the
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even if everybody is pardoned i want to know who is involved in uh the january 6th thing i want to
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know all the facts sure even if we can't put anybody in jail um i want to know all of the facts on um
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on the russia russia russia thing on the joe biden you know we have to expose these things i want to know
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who hid and how they hid joe biden's mental decline from the american people big time i want to know
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that i want an investigation those people should those people should go to jail because i don't
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think they've been pardoned no that's true i i don't i exactly it needs to be investigated we need
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to know how far that went yeah is this why this is one of the reasons it feels like to me uh hearing
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you over the years that you put together the museum yes right to to unearth stuff like this
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even good or bad yes either way right the american people deserve to know the truth hello you have to
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know the truth and especially the dark side of our ourselves otherwise there's there's bitter and
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sweet i mean i'm i'm gonna i'm gonna talk to you a little bit about uh ai and ai is offering us
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a perfect world okay that's what this is going to be a perfect life
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the garden of eden it was already it already existed okay and we gave it up for knowledge
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of good and evil there is opposites to everything good evil pleasure pain all of that uh and you have
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to have both sides otherwise you don't know really what you have so right now americans haven't seen
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a lot of pain in our lives i mean you know whatever you're going through might seem like a lot of pain
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but as a country nothing like the great depression nothing like world war ii we haven't experienced that
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so we don't really appreciate what we have we have to know both sides and you know when it comes to
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martin luther king that's a holiday we took away the abraham lincoln holiday and the george washington
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hollow holiday to make it a combined holiday for presidents which presidents and then gave martin
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luther king his holiday okay was that right was that a mistake i don't know let's just know who we're
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holding up here and that doesn't mean that his ideas of america live up to your promise is an
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important it's probably more important now than ever before because the people who have been
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oppressed in the past are being convinced that you're still oppressed and now the only way to
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not be oppressed is to take martin luther king's message and flip it upside on on its head and say
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you've got to be a racist to be an anti-racist the only way to fix racism is to engage in racism
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these are important conversations for us to have uh and i for one applaud the president for doing this
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and i think we should get all of it absolutely all of it and i hope it doesn't stop here all right
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more in just a second anxious to see what he has to say about the drones notice we haven't had a word
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about the drones and since he's been in office not a word anywhere on the drones i'd like to know what
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uh by the way kamala harris has quote not ruled out running for president in 2028 which is kind of
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funny because i think we ruled that out uh in fact we ruled out her running for president in 2024
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and 2020 i believe we've ruled out everything for her yeah please i don't know what she's planning on
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doing uh or what she's doing now i can't imagine there's a long line at her door going we gotta sign
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her up we gotta get her on our team well she's kind of in the middle i feel like she's uh what's her
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legacy is it sort of because hillary clinton i think her legacy on the left obviously we know what her
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legacy is to us but her legacy on the left is they really were annoyed at her for losing in 2016
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i think they blamed her they don't like her she's never liked they never really liked her i mean i
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think they liked him at one point yeah bill um but they never really liked her and they got just got
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angry at her when she lost right right joe biden i think like his legacy is looking worse and worse
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by the day even on the left i think they're at least outwardly annoyed at all the pardons and
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all the arguments that they made on television that got blown up by joe biden in the in the final
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few months like they were saying oh we would never do this we would never do this and then they did it and
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now they have no justification so i don't think they look at him positively sometimes when you lose
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you have a real negative uh reaction from your own party uh i like i think that it doesn't always
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it doesn't always end that way as time goes by because people start to feel you know rose-colored
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glasses and the past is always better than it actually was but i don't think that's true with
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hillary clinton i think her arrogance her corruption yes everybody knew about um her just spitefulness
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she's not a likable person and i think the same with biden i i agree i think biden is going to be seen
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as on the left as someone who was selfish to continue to run now none of them ever note the fact that they
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could have spoken up and said he shouldn't be running at the time yeah but i think they look
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at him that way that's why i think kamala sort of gets a break from them i think they see kamala as
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like someone who stepped in at the last minute she didn't really have a chance i mean no this is true
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obviously like i mean she didn't have it if she was a good candidate she theoretically could have won
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she was not she didn't have a chance because she sucked right yes exactly but i think they look at her
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with more leniency because i mean all she had glenn was 1.5 billion dollars to spend in 10 weeks who
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could possibly have won right and she overspent that yes i mean what do you do but yeah so it'll
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be interesting i don't think she's going to be embraced as a future candidate but i do think she
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will be swallowed up into that uh corporate board um think tank uh you know salary type of world
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but don't you have to think to be part of a think tank have you ever read some of these white papers
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no you do not you're right you do not okay you got that right i could also see um
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governor of california type of situation no way i could you couldn't i mean andrew cuomo is leading
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by 23 points yes in the new york mayoral race right now i could because californians are just stupid
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they're just some of them are and i if we will ever see them make a good decision it should be after
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what's happened over the past right and they're not going to they're not going to hope that's not i think
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donald trump is in uh california today supposed to be in there today or at least this weekend but
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i heard today uh let's see how you know what the reaction is i mean do you know california is suing
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him uh for all of the stuff that you know he's doing with illegals they're suing him well yeah so
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is everybody else yeah but california don't you have anything else better to do and i mean really
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and you're suing him at the same time you're asking for billions of dollars to bail yourself out
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because you're so out of control i don't think so i don't think so how does trump react to that
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i don't think so how does he feel about giving all that money to them while they're suing him
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welcome to the glenn beck program welcome oh we've got a lot to cover today and of course we
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just can't wait to get to the oscar nominations oh yes we can um let me uh let me give you a couple
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of things uh from the davos meeting yesterday president trump spoke uh at davos he talked about
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the revolution of common sense and confronting the economic chaos which we covered yesterday
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um and then he talked about what he did on day one which was he cut the ridiculous and i'm quoting
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wasteful green new deal which he calls a scam uh withdrew from the paris climate accord ended the
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insane and costly electric vehicle mandate uh and he said he's begun the largest deregulation
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campaign in history so let's pick it up right after that uh trump at davos cut 10 here's why
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companies he said should come to america to further unleash our economy our majorities in the house and
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senate which we also took along with the presidency are going to pass the largest tax cut in american
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history including massive tax cuts for workers and family and big tax cuts for domestic producers
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and manufacturers and we're working with the democrats on getting an extension of the original
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trump tax cuts as you probably know by just reading any paper my message to every business in the world
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is very simple come make your product in america and we will give you among the lowest taxes
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of any nation on earth we're bringing them down very substantially even from the original trump tax
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cuts but if you don't make your product in america which is your prerogative then very simply you will
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have to pay a tariff differing amounts but a tariff which will direct hundreds of billions of dollars
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and even trillions of dollars into our treasury to strengthen our economy and pay down debt
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under the trump administration there will be no better place on earth to create jobs build factories
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or grow a company than right here in the good old usa already americans economic you can see this i
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think maybe even in your in your wonderful wonderful room that you're all gathered together so many of
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my friends but americans the economic confidence is soaring like we haven't seen in many many decades
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maybe not at all upon my election it was just announced a small business optimism skyrocketed by 41 points
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in a single month that's the highest ever there's never been anything like that so he's right about that
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and he is he is carrot and stick come to america build your products which is uh not something the world
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economic forum had been concentrating uh before um he also talked about the green new deal saying we need
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three times the energy just for ai so we're going to be making energy we are unleashing uh the kraken
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when it comes to uh energy he also said something about um bringing american america back and ending the
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border chaos this is cut 12 america is back and open for business and this week i'm also taking swift
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action to stop the invasion at our southern border they allowed people to come in at levels that nobody's
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ever seen before it was ridiculous i decided a and declared to just to uh to do and very very
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importantly a national emergency on our border immediately halted all entry of illegal border crossers of
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which there were many and began promptly returning the illegal trespassers back to the place from which
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they came that action as you've probably seen has already started very strongly have deployed
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active duty u.s military and national guard troops to the border to assist in repelling the invasion it was
00:29:11.280
really an invasion we will not allow our territory to be violated after four long years the united
00:29:18.860
states is strong and sovereign and a beautiful nation once again it's a strong sovereign nation
00:29:26.380
strong sovereign nation who is receiving that message who's that aimed toward
00:29:37.740
he's speaking to the leaders of the world at the world economic forum but these are the same leaders
00:29:46.780
of the world that have been pushing for loss of sovereignty they've been pushing all of these
00:29:54.600
illegals all throughout europe well europe the europeans they don't like it that's what's causing
00:30:02.160
the uproar and so many of the elections that they are now trying to control because people are saying i
00:30:09.140
want my country i believe in my country as it is i don't want to lose all of my traditions and my
00:30:15.160
history and i don't want it to be an islamic country period and so people are starting to rise up this is
00:30:22.680
a shot across the bow this is not delivered just to the leadership we're not playing that game anymore
00:30:30.460
this message is for the people of europe this is the first time i have seen america pick the torch
00:30:40.060
back up to say we're going to be the shining city on the hill we are going to lead the world back to
00:30:47.960
freedom you can choose not to we're not going to force you into it but we're not going down the crazy
00:30:54.300
path anymore and that's going to resonate with all kinds of people all around the world that's we are
00:31:02.080
once again in the position of giving the world hope this is a very very big deal and should shake
00:31:10.200
the foundations of the world economic forum anybody who's smart who's a politician knows oh i'm in real
00:31:17.440
trouble because now there is a leader on the other side saying no don't have to do it we're not going
00:31:24.020
to and it's not javier malay javier malay what he's doing i hope we're going to do a lot of the things
00:31:30.220
that he's doing in argentina but it's argentina so it's not getting the kind of global uh you know
00:31:39.860
exposure that it happened that happens immediately because donald trump is somebody who just controls
00:31:46.720
the media they can't help themselves uh and it's also the united states making big bold statements
00:31:53.860
now here's what he said about dei cut 13 in addition i'm pleased to report that america is also a free
00:32:02.780
nation once again on day one i signed an executive order to stop all government censorship no longer
00:32:09.800
will our government label the speech of our own citizens as misinformation or disinformation which
00:32:17.020
are the favorite words of censors and those who wish to stop the free exchange of ideas and frankly
00:32:23.540
progress we have saved free speech in america and we've saved it strongly with another historic
00:32:31.340
executive order this week i also ended the weaponization of law enforcement against the
00:32:36.440
american people and frankly against politicians and restored the fair equal and impartial rule of law
00:32:43.600
my administration has taken action to abolish all discriminatory diversity equity and inclusion
00:32:51.020
nonsense and these are policies that were absolute nonsense throughout the government and the private
00:32:57.300
sector with the recent yet somewhat unexpected great supreme court decision just made america will once
00:33:04.960
again become a merit-based country you have to hear that word merit-based country and i've made it
00:33:14.480
official an official policy of the united states that there are only two genders male and female and we will have no men
00:33:24.780
participating in women's sports and transgender operations which became the rage will occur very rarely okay
00:33:33.620
think of think of this i want you to put yourself in the role of an average british citizen
00:33:40.640
and then put yourself in the role as the head of the labor party which one's celebrating
00:33:49.320
the average citizen yep yeah what because that it's interesting i think if you let's say you're the average
00:33:57.320
left-wing european leader political leader and you've gone through we've been doing this a long time
00:34:04.420
you have been on this arc which is bringing the world to your side for a very long time and i think
00:34:13.140
2016 happens and you look at it as sort of a one-off yes you know you hope it's a fluke yeah okay like
00:34:21.280
this is crazy this guy he's really famous so you know she was a bad candidate somehow she got in there
00:34:27.200
or he got in there but you also have to write off as a fluke brexit yeah all right yep that's true
00:34:33.200
those happen at the same time so there was a warning sign both places this is not this is not
00:34:39.840
where the people are going okay go ahead so now this happens in 2024 uh-huh what is the difference
00:34:46.440
in your reaction if you're that person uh run for the hills hide um become a chameleon switch do
00:34:56.980
everything you can to blend in um and do all you can to talk a different game uh and regroup that's
00:35:09.160
what i would do if i a scumbag you know left-wing politician over in europe yeah okay um if i'm honest
00:35:16.880
and i would look at this and say you know what i i really thought this stuff would work but it's just
00:35:24.160
not going to happen the people do not want any of this stuff i would be leading the campaign for
00:35:31.220
my side to stop it stop it because what's at the other end if you don't stop it is revolution but
00:35:38.900
this has never been about what the people want no right i mean like they always knew it was always
00:35:44.500
we know better for you what you need and what you want we we're the experts we're at the top and they
00:35:50.880
would have gotten away with it had it not been for well the scooby-doo van and the internet those
00:35:56.800
pesky kids oh those damn kids they're always getting in the way right um but you know past you
00:36:02.400
know shaggy and and scooby uh there is this uh element i think of of of this where like this is a
00:36:08.840
this isn't a minor thing this is your grand experiment going down in flames yes yeah so the only
00:36:15.400
thing that the the leadership of the wef who believe that and this is why this is why sam altman
00:36:23.780
is so scary the only thing you have going for you is if you can get ai fast enough online to create a
00:36:35.000
cage for those who are not in control of ai okay that's i believe why larry elson uh sam altman
00:36:45.080
everybody else suddenly i mean sam altman gave lots of money to the left and biden's campaign he
00:36:51.740
was not a trump supporter all of a sudden he's a trump supporter and trump is giving him this
00:36:58.300
access and saying hey create ai for us that is extraordinarily dangerous don's getting a lot of
00:37:07.040
new friends these days yeah they're all coming to make good friends i mean and like there's a lot
00:37:11.040
positives to that obviously a lot of concerns with it too when it comes to ai there's nothing he
00:37:15.880
should be more careful with yeah um because that is the only thing left they can do is create an
00:37:23.260
absolute cage that humans just can't escape from put this in historical perspective glenn
00:37:30.520
bring me back to christmas 1991 right the soviet union collapses yes um is this the biggest event
00:37:39.540
since then on that on that sort of like wow the whole world's changing directions there's lots
00:37:46.380
of warnings maybe we're not to that point yet maybe we're 1989 or 1988 how do you how do you know i think
00:37:52.300
we are just at the point of the wall coming down donald trump broke the wall uh so i think we're there
00:38:01.140
but what you don't understand is we are on the other side of that wall as we now walk forward
00:38:07.880
is the biggest event of all mankind and i'm going to talk about that next hour a bit but
00:38:15.340
you have to understand there is a new world just on the horizon if you read what sam altman is saying
00:38:25.640
and others are saying you cannot convince me that they don't know how to make asi they just don't have
00:38:33.180
the computing power the cloud system they don't have the computing power and they don't have the
00:38:40.340
power 2027 is when they're supposed to plug this thing in and i'm sorry but i do not believe that they
00:38:48.360
they aren't going to be able to go to asi almost immediately the things we have to do right now
00:38:55.520
are important and i'll lay that out for you uh next hour stand by first some men's wives love them
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property this is something yet another thing in your life you have to worry about i'm sorry i hate to
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bring another thing up but a california district attorney who's saying how these things are rising
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trump also at the world economic forum yesterday took on bank of america and jp morgan chase uh saying
00:42:32.740
you know i hope you start opening your bank to conservatives because many conservatives
00:42:37.200
complain that the banks aren't allowing them to do business within the bank and that included a
00:42:41.500
place called the bank of america and uh and jp morgan chase um now they immediately came out so
00:42:48.620
what that's crazy that's great no no it's not crazy in fact uh you debanked the first lady she talked
00:42:56.040
about this last october that uh she was informed that the bank won't be able to do business with me
00:43:02.340
anymore why because they had exceeded its risk tolerance what is that code language for come on
00:43:11.260
come on esg the pupils students esg the risk tolerance they couldn't handle it or they would
00:43:22.640
be canceled by the banks and everybody else above them that's what happened that hopefully will not
00:43:29.980
happen uh anymore uh anymore but don't trust any of these people and it's good to see donald trump
00:43:36.020
not giving in to uh jamie diamond and all of his oh i i've loved trump from the beginning
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You know, this is a great example of why we believe that we have to get to AI first.
00:46:19.120
Especially when you look at something like quantum computing.
00:46:30.360
There are no codes that couldn't be broken if you have access to a quantum computer.
00:46:41.440
We are at that place now to where we have quantum computing.
00:46:54.960
The only way to defend it is if you have quantum computing and you are further ahead than the Chinese.
00:47:04.440
This is why the president is making such a big deal out of quantum computing and AI.
00:47:13.620
And it's why he said he's having, you know, SoftBank.
00:47:17.540
Which, from everything that I know, Elon Musk is right.
00:47:22.920
They only have about $10 billion in funding and backing.
00:47:26.500
So I don't know where this number of $500 billion is coming from.
00:47:33.080
This is why they are trying to build the data centers and the electricity.
00:47:43.480
We need to generate three times the amount of electricity that we already generate.
00:47:50.120
How are you going to do that with a new green deal?
00:47:54.040
China is putting 10 new coal-fired power plants online every week.
00:48:03.820
They have the power grid that is close to being able to handle an AGI, artificial general intelligence, an ASI, super intelligence.
00:48:14.720
When that happens, whoever gets there first, wins.
00:48:20.660
That's why we're trying to have all of the power and everything else done by 2027.
00:48:26.560
Now, the problem I have with this is we're in bed with some really bad people.
00:48:34.740
I mean, the president has done this with SoftBank and Larry Ellison, who is absolutely untrustworthy.
00:48:45.680
He also, the CEO of SoftBank, is the guy who gleefully said ASI is the way to capture people and pretty much put them in a cage to control the population.
00:49:06.860
The goal of this for some people, not Donald Trump.
00:49:16.000
Others just want to be there when a God is created.
00:49:19.480
And I know that for a fact because I know people who have talked to these CEOs.
00:49:24.140
They believe they're creating the most powerful God ever.
00:49:35.100
If you are in charge of A-G-I-A-S-I, if you own that space, you get all of the profits.
00:49:53.140
And nobody else is going to have a job eventually.
00:49:59.880
You'll have universal basic income, which means that's the people who have the trillions of dollars and all the power and control.
00:50:07.920
They just give you enough money to keep you quiet and happy.
00:50:24.040
It's a great fork in the road of human destiny.
00:50:27.240
One that will call into question everything that we have ever built, everything that we've ever believed, everything that we've ever dared to hope for.
00:50:37.680
And I know this sounds like hyperbole, but please do your homework on this.
00:50:43.640
For a millennia, the pursuit of knowledge has been our driving force.
00:50:48.400
I would make the case that it started in the Garden of Eden.
00:50:56.160
We've sought it in our own chambers of our own hearts.
00:51:00.020
Knowledge is the currency of power, of progress, and morality itself.
00:51:08.660
The more we knew, the better we could heal, build, and conquer the mysteries of the world.
00:51:13.580
But now, we are witnessing something, something dramatically new.
00:51:19.640
Something that completely upends this sacred order, if you will.
00:51:28.860
This is a promise that has been whispered on the winds of revolution.
00:51:53.280
And soon, many of your friends, if not most of them, will give and ask for something more.
00:52:08.940
A voice that knows our every thought, our every need, our every fear, and caters to it.
00:52:15.940
A voice that will, in time, know us better than we know ourselves.
00:52:25.360
What happens when that voice of a friend that is like a God and can give you anything,
00:52:33.040
what happens when you begin to stop asking questions, but just accepting answers?
00:52:44.740
What happens to humans when you no longer have to push the envelope and find the pain in finding answers?
00:52:53.960
When we no longer struggle to learn or to grow or to earn any kind of wisdom,
00:52:58.800
because wisdom is downloaded with a flick of a finger, and you can't question that wisdom because it is God-like.
00:53:09.120
What happens in a world full of imperfect humans where all is known, all is automated, all is perfect?
00:53:20.060
What happens to the jam-stained humans when perfection is the measure of life?
00:53:32.380
Now, there is another force that is stirring on the other side.
00:53:52.100
I think in part because of what we've just gone through, and in part because I think God, the universe, man, the collective man, knows something is coming.
00:54:21.660
What does it mean to feel, to create, to connect with someone else?
00:54:26.520
We're waking up to truth, and it's not the, you know, only two-gender kind of truth.
00:54:36.960
These are the things that AI will never be able to understand.
00:54:55.340
And so, we're coming up to a time where humanity is going to divide itself.
00:55:05.020
On one side will be the promise of a digital utopia.
00:55:37.400
On the other side will be a group of people that want to return to the authentic, the organic, the raw beauty of what it means to be alive.
00:55:55.700
But you can't have purpose if you don't struggle to find that purpose.
00:56:03.820
There will be those who see this new intelligence as more than a tool.
00:56:18.820
What will that mean for the human spirit when we begin to worship something we've created with our own hands?
00:56:26.180
The only time man has lived in perfection is in the Garden of Eden.
00:56:39.620
Eat the fruit of that tree and you will surely die, was the warning.
00:56:44.920
It was the tree and the fruit of knowledge of good and evil.
00:56:49.820
When you eat that, you will become like the gods.
00:56:53.240
You will know the difference between bitter and sweet, good and evil.
00:57:29.280
All we have to do is trade in the messiness of life for the perfection of the artificial.
00:57:33.620
You may go home and you are tired and your wife says, so, how was your day?
00:57:43.860
And you get a few words out and she says, well, let me tell you about mine.
00:57:51.340
Will it be true this time if we eat of the fruit of this tree of knowledge?
00:58:10.320
It may once again be a promise we don't yet understand, but one thing I do know, this new God does not offer a savior or even a road to salvation.
00:58:24.780
I want you to start thinking of AI, not about technology, about the soul of mankind, because that's what it's really about.
00:58:36.320
Will we choose the road of convenience, the seductive siren song of an artificial God, or will we fight for what's real, what's messy, what's imperfect?
00:58:47.280
What causes struggle and strife that makes things beautiful beyond measure?
00:59:00.000
I've seen it coming for almost 30 years and warned about it, and I still don't know how to connect to people and get them to pay attention and understand what it is.
00:59:10.000
This is where at a crossroads no man has ever gazed upon.
00:59:14.560
We are going to have to choose between two roads.
00:59:19.100
One of them is not the road that is less traveled.
00:59:22.140
Both of them are roads that have never been traveled.
00:59:31.720
Others who control and are building this tech, they're not going to stop.
00:59:36.860
It is a part of man's future, whether we like it or not.
00:59:40.980
Our choice now is to ask ourselves, which God do we serve?
00:59:47.700
Will it be the one that molded us in his image, the one that created the heavens and the universe, or will it be the God of our making, the one created in our flawed image?
00:59:58.840
What is coming may be the ultimate spiritual battle, and we are here, and people don't know yet.
01:00:09.740
This is the moment we must decide, who do we serve?
01:00:19.860
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So we are going to be entering something where it's COVID.
01:01:59.800
The decision on COVID and the vaccine is going to look like child's play.
01:02:04.320
We are talking about now curing cancer, and we are talking about using mRNA vaccines, possibly.
01:02:13.440
I don't know how it's going to shake out, but we are going to be asked to...
01:02:18.000
Look, cancer is not only a flaw maybe in our DNA in some people, but also because of what we put in our body.
01:02:30.460
And when we put some more things in our body that are foreign to our body to cure those things that are wrong with our body, usually we pay a price because those things interact with other things in our body.
01:02:49.940
Is what are we actually putting in our body, and is it actually good for us?
01:02:55.880
And the petrochemical companies, the pharmaceutical companies, they just want to make money.
01:03:03.960
Now as we become in the next, I believe, before the end of this decade, we will have ASI, artificial super intelligence, godlike.
01:03:17.040
And it will give us all sorts of answers, but what's going to be our reaction in our bodies?
01:03:30.620
What will this mean to worship a god that cannot be seen, doesn't always answer your questions, insists on you finding the answer, insists on you actually doing the work?
01:03:45.840
What happens to that god when there's a god who will give you the answer, will make sure that you're as successful as possible, gives you everything you ever needed, curing cancer, giving you all the things that people have prayed for since the dawn of time?
01:04:11.660
Now, coming, you're going to hear the word AI agents a lot.
01:04:25.620
They will eventually be covered in some sort of flesh.
01:04:29.400
But it will be something that works specifically for you to remind you of things and to write emails for you.
01:04:39.140
Just say, hey, you know, there was this important email that came in.
01:04:42.440
You haven't written it, but I've scanned all your other emails and I know who you are.
01:04:49.520
Those are the easy things that are going to come up.
01:05:04.140
And eventually, we will see the cost, just as we have seen with social media and the iPhone.
01:05:20.600
So the abortion pill is the thing of the future now.
01:05:25.160
You know, abortion clinics, somebody having to go in and have an abortion and have doctors there, they're getting around that now.
01:05:31.480
60% of all abortions can happen at any time, 24-7, in your own bathroom of your home with your daughter.
01:05:39.040
However, the abortion pill now is the thing that we have to fight.
01:05:45.520
And there are many ways to fight it, but pre-born is on the front lines of not only the abortion clinics, but the abortion pill.
01:05:54.980
And there also is now a, oops, I made a mistake.
01:06:05.480
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I believe it's the 80th anniversary of the opening of Auschwitz.
01:07:24.940
And the reason why I just found, I knew this was going on, but I didn't realize one fact
01:07:31.960
And now I'm desperately trying to get some sort of a pass or tickets for my son and I
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Last time they did this, they do it every 10 years.
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I want my whole family to have it, but my other daughter who hasn't been there yet, Cheyenne,
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Let me go to Eric Prince, who is the host of Off Leash.
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Eric, I love any tweet that starts with F you, Bank of America.
01:08:28.400
Yesterday, the president, when he's talking to the World Economic Forum, he calls out the
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Bank of America and JPMorgan Chase and says, you know, I hope you stop debanking people.
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And they at first didn't say anything about it in response.
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And then Bank of America, Bank of America serves more than 70 million clients.
01:08:51.760
We would never close accounts for political reasons.
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So do you want to go beyond F you, Bank of America?
01:09:03.860
You know, Glenn, whatever idiot in their PR department decided to write that, I think they
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were, they were still living in a pre Elon Twitter moment.
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And probably thought that their friends in the media would carry the water for them and
01:09:24.460
And, you know, it's been a, um, they're not the only bank that's debanked me, but the
01:09:30.160
weaponization of something as simple as banking, the left has been doing hard against people
01:09:41.180
And, um, it was fresh in mind because I was just talking to one of my kids, uh, about when
01:09:48.340
And I just, you know, I even had to add in the, in the, the, the thing I posted that
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not only did they debank me, my children, my stepchildren, they even debanked my ex-wife
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and her new husband because they received child support payments from me at Bank of America.
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Now they will, they will say that wasn't a political reason.
01:10:17.620
Look, I'm, I'm hoping that a proper investigation, they will end up throwing someone under the
01:10:28.060
bus and they will probably point back to, um, Pocahontas in the Senate or Maxine Waters in
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the house and their pursuit of the weaponization and the persecution of anyone that they don't
01:10:45.220
agree with and it's kind of the Sovietization of our society.
01:10:50.400
And that cannot stand as just as bad as the FBI has become a political tool and really gone
01:10:57.040
off the rails using, um, all the powers of the state and effectively implementing a social credit
01:11:08.260
Um, it, yeah, so that our country was, was literally held off of the brink of going over
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a cliff in so many areas by this last election.
01:11:20.020
So, I mean, all of this comes from the world economic forum and DEI.
01:11:24.520
The reason why they can debank you, uh, is because you're too much of a risk for the bank.
01:11:30.720
And what they mean by that is they have standards that are being held up globally by DEI standards
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that say, if you're doing business with someone like you, that could bring discredit upon the
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And then the bank, uh, will have to, uh, uh, you know, be, um, DE leveraged or, or, you
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know, put into a timeout box because, uh, they, they didn't stop doing business with you.
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It points to politicized banking instead of actually market-based capitalism banking.
01:12:09.120
And, uh, you know, obviously millions of people, my post went viral.
01:12:15.340
Mike Flynn, general Mike Flynn posted the same experience.
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I saw a lot of people chimed in and then, then even the community notes of Twitter added
01:12:28.300
that 15 attorney generals have already filed some action against bank of America for exactly
01:12:34.960
And I, I, I closed my comment by saying this speaks to our big banks are way too big.
01:12:44.740
They behave like a cartel and that allows the political influence into our economy in
01:12:51.660
ways that is in, in completely incongruous with what's supposed to be free market capitalism.
01:12:58.300
So break them up and, you know, it would, to make it matters worse when bank of America
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received tens or if not hundreds of billions of dollars of taxpayer bailout the last time
01:13:09.140
these idiots crushed our financial system with bad lending.
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It needs the, you know, Mike Lee, Senator Mike Lee chimed in and I'm, I'm thinking that
01:13:22.860
the compliance weenies at the bank of America are as busy shredding documents.
01:13:28.220
They're making it snow in the, uh, they are at bank of America.
01:13:35.240
Um, what do you think about what's happening with Donald Trump's handling of, uh, Russia?
01:13:41.120
Where we, where do we stand on Russia and Ukraine?
01:13:45.260
Um, well, there needs to be a, um, a serious set of negotiations and depending on who Putin
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sends to the negotiating table will also indicate, um, what level of seriousness they have.
01:14:01.360
Um, I think it's, you know, it is certainly in America's interest to end this war, uh, our, uh, predicate of our activity should not be dependent on some Russian speaking province of what was Ukraine.
01:14:17.060
And it is in our interest to pull Russia away from the orbit or from a codependency on China.
01:14:24.200
Um, you know, for a hundred years, it was the policy of the United States to keep German resources, sorry, German industry from combining with Russian resources.
01:14:33.520
And all we've done is push Russian resources into a subordinate role of the Chinese communist party, which is really bad for us on all fronts.
01:14:43.220
Uh, when it comes to, um, uh, China, uh, they're having some real financial difficulty.
01:14:51.840
And we were having a conversation yesterday about who has the longer runway us or China.
01:14:57.640
Uh, can they withstand, uh, any kind of tariffs that we might put on?
01:15:08.700
You know, the Chinese society sort of made a deal with the Chinese communist party that they're allowed, you know, they, they forego any real human rights or democracy in exchange for the Chinese communist party providing economic growth.
01:15:24.660
And if that economic growth dries up, the CCP starts having real problems.
01:15:30.920
This started with the anti-corruption campaign that Xi Jinping started years ago, but it was, it was, they had corruption problems.
01:15:39.580
Yes, but it was really a consolidation program to annihilate his opponents.
01:15:44.000
And that's even extended to the most capable entrepreneurs in the country.
01:15:48.720
When you have Jack Ma, the founder of Alibaba, who's disappeared from society and reappears months later, um, lecturing at an elementary school and the, in the state media saying that he is quote embraced supervision.
01:16:01.300
That is not a great leading indicator of the rest of your entrepreneur class.
01:16:06.380
So that's, they are, they are reeling from that.
01:16:09.700
Um, a, a tariff that it look Trump, uh, Trump 45, the Chinese were very, very concerned about Trump putting tariffs on their goods.
01:16:20.380
And this is exactly what Trump should do again.
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Remember our government used to be funded solely by tariffs on taxes, on imported goods, protecting American industry before we had an income tax.
01:16:33.800
That is absolutely the course of action we should go back to, but move away from income tax, go back to tariffs and restrain the size of government.
01:16:45.180
He's gone a long way in executive orders and that he's going to, he's going to burn through all the things he can do with that soon.
01:16:53.820
And it's going to shift back to legislation, which is of course dependent on a somewhat deadbeat Congress.
01:17:00.920
I think the weapon that he can deploy against Congress this time with Musk and his ability to say, listen, Congress, spend less, listen to these doge government cutting spending recommendations, or I will guarantee you a primary in just 18 months.
01:17:22.700
They will, they will tend to yield from that kind of, um, warning.
01:17:27.140
Eric, I only have a couple more minutes, but I just, I just need to take the chance to talk to you about a wide variety of things while I have you.
01:17:34.720
You are the guy who started, uh, up phone, uh, which you're a sponsor of this program, but I bring it up here because you have, you have seen the erosion of privacy, uh, like nobody else.
01:17:48.400
Um, and I have been very concerned about this, uh, uh, partnership with Larry Ellison and Microsoft and, and SoftBank, um, building the infrastructure for AI.
01:18:06.180
Um, I think Larry Ellison, I think is a pretty solid guy.
01:18:10.240
Uh, some of the communications methods might not be perfect, but, uh, uh, in terms of his worldview, it's, it's, I don't think it's that far off of ours.
01:18:21.980
Um, look, any, any large oligarch that builds AI is of course going to be subject to us worrying because that's putting, that's concentrating an enormous amount of power in a few people's hands, which is kind of opposite to what we pursue in a republic.
01:18:38.020
However, um, I think that the AI, um, genie is out of the bottle and lots of different competitive systems have to, have to be run because certainly the Chinese are doing it and the Chinese are doing it with, with no government or ethical or even moral constraints on what it is.
01:19:02.440
And so we are kind of crossing into a brave, brave new world.
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And that's, you know, that's why circling back to an unplugged phone, it's the one device that does not harvest and collect your data and share it with everyone.
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Your existing iPhone or your existing, um, Android running Google mobile services literally collects everything you do, where you go, who you call, what you buy.
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And, and, and exports a digital profile on you to any advertiser that wants to buy it.
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And, you know, for, even for parents, the average kid, by the time they reach the age of 13 has had 72 million data points collected on them.
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And so in that era of AI, it effectively allows the AI to digitally groom your kid, your family, or whatever.
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And, and so the unplugged phone does not allow that.
01:19:50.760
It basically, you can think of the unplugged phone as data sovereignty that you control.
01:19:54.700
What, if any of your data gets shared outside of your device, Eric, uh, as always good to talk to you.
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All right, we have a guy on who is really good.
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He is the founder and executive director for the Center for AI Safety, Dan Hendricks.
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And maybe he can calm me a little bit this week.
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I'm a little concerned about what we are doing with Altman and Microsoft.
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And maybe you can talk me down from the tree a bit.
01:29:04.680
I'm a little concerned about what happened and who we're handing AI over to.
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Well, I think, fortunately, for the project, they announced this thing called Stargate.
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And they're saying they're going to put $500 billion into building AI data centers to advance
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Somewhat like a Manhattan Project-like type of idea.
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But Elon, whose company I advise, actually, he was saying that they possibly don't have
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So it may then be a bit more of a nothing burger.
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That said, AI is still progressing really rapidly.
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And that other places are investing a huge amount, though.
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Like, Microsoft announced they're putting $80 billion into data centers this year.
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I'd say more quickly than they were last year, substantially, just seeing how AI is getting
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smarter and smarter behind the scenes in industry.
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I know nothing about, you know, any of this, except for what I read and try to understand.
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And I have been of the impression that once we get to AI, really strong AI, we go to AGI
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And ASI, I've said for a couple of decades that I thought it would happen by 2030.
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And nobody, a couple of decades ago, agreed with that.
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I think by default, so one thing that might affect the picture is the geopolitics.
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Basically, if China, for instance, gets some AIs that can perform AI research, and then
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it can start researching and improving itself very rapidly, the US might not accept that.
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Because if they get something like an ASI, a super intelligence, something vastly smarter
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than all people, that could be used for creating a weapon that could give China a decisive edge
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So the US may then just decide to prevent them from doing so.
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Just like how SIXNet was created to hinder Iran's nuclear facilities, the US CyberCon could
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mess with their data center, and that could potentially prevent them from doing that.
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Russia may also have that same incentive, too, because Russia doesn't have any of these
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So they might be afraid of falling behind and preventing that type of thing from happening.
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I mean, this sounds like a real Cold War and seems much more dangerous this time around,
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China also has, I mean, they're building five or 10 new coal-fired power plants and I think
01:32:09.200
One of the things that AI needs is an enormous amount of energy.
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And while Trump is opening up the energy frontier, so to speak, I mean, there's no way to compete
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with China and the amount of energy that they can create at this point.
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Well, so many companies are making a lot of noise about needing more energy, but it
01:32:36.780
seems to me that a lot of this is because they have some green environmental constraints
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If they burn carbon-based forms of energy, then they're in a lot better of a position
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But due to their constraints, then they're asking for more government assistance.
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So that way it can be, so that their energy can be clean.
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But overall, it does seem that China has an energy advantage.
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Overall, in the competition between the U.S. and China, the U.S. and China are basically tied
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when it comes to the AI models themselves for the diffusion of these.
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The U.S. has way more AI chips, orders of magnitude more AI chips.
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So our main advantages that we have are through export controls saying China cannot have access
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If the export controls get relaxed, then the U.S. loses its main advantage.
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Or if China invades Taiwan, then the U.S. doesn't have the chip advantage as well.
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So that's the sense of some of the main variables in the competition.
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So I was reading something that you wrote about the AI infrastructure executive order
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And in reading what you wrote, it sounds to me like that some of that stuff, a lot of
01:34:12.060
Well, so the Biden executive order had a reporting requirement, which was that the frontier AI labs
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need to be reporting what risks the AIs are potentially posing to the United States, not risks
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like DEI, you know, does it say offensive things risks, but can they make chemical, biological,
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The rescinding of that executive order doesn't stop that reporting process by default.
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Now, I would hope that it would continue and that it would be encouraged by the White House going forward.
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You could imagine us getting there being a report that China is building an AI Manhattan project
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And then these people are called to the situation room and then they're thinking,
01:35:05.020
And then it's, well, we don't know what's going on even in our own labs because they're no longer
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reporting to us what's happening behind the scenes.
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So we're going to just have absolutely no idea what to do in that situation.
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Something else that you write about, you and also Scale AI, Center for AI Safety and Scale
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AI, have put together Humanity's Last Exam, an HLE.
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But this is the way to find out if we really have AGI or ASI?
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Yeah, basically, we asked professors around the whole world to submit questions to trip up AI models.
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So right now, the AIs can answer basically any undergraduate and most graduate-level questions.
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So this is really getting at the world-class expert level.
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AI is going to take over the world, but we can't keep cell phones.
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I don't know if you're walking around or driving or anything, but we lost you there for a second.
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So we had various professors submit questions from around the world to try and trip up the
01:36:34.380
So we would have some of the world's best mathematicians submit questions.
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And if it can answer their tricky questions, that would be a sign that we're something like
01:36:46.800
And we wanted to create a benchmark that would help the public see what the progress bar is
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toward that, how far are we, how far away are we from that?
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It seems very possible, though, that on this exam right now, the models are less than 10%.
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It seems very possible that by the end of this year, they're getting something like 50%.
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I also note that the best was, in fact, a Chinese model, better than Google's model,
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better than OpenAI's model, better than anybody else's model, which shows that China is basically
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Three months ago, it looked like they were six months behind.
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As of like a week ago, it looks like they were caught up.
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So they look in the rearview mirror, and now they're here.
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I mean, Putin has said whoever gets to AI first controls the world, and I've understood that
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He is the founder and executive director of Center for AI Safety, also does some work with
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I mean, they could potentially weaponize it against the U.S., and if they have a system
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that's just substantially smarter than our own, that could be very destabilizing.
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That could potentially allow them to create something like an unshakable totalitarian regime
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where it can just monitor everybody all the time and process all that information and keep
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tabs on them and stomp out potential risk sources.
01:40:14.900
So, but that would take a while to get that advantage, and I think that one thing that could
01:40:23.680
prevent this type of world is if the U.S. would just continually, or if Russia would just disable
01:40:32.980
So, we might get to a state where we get very advanced AI, but there might be destabilizing
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AI projects that the U.S. and Russia are spying on, and when they detect those, they may try
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And likewise, China might try and do that to the U.S.
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So, that could create something reminiscent of mutual assured destruction, where nobody is
01:40:57.420
allowed to do something extremely destabilizing due to shared vulnerabilities.
01:41:00.820
Likewise, for the creation of a superintelligence that they would then weaponize, that might
01:41:07.420
be prevented, but that might be an uneasy standoff.
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And we've seen nuclear nonproliferation and nuclear stability is still tricky even then.
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So, it's still nonetheless really risky business.
01:41:20.360
But if they turn their cyber arsenals against each other to take down or disable each other's
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data centers that are doing these destabilizing AI projects, that could stave off the development
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So, superintelligence, you believe we're going to know how to create it, or is it going to
01:41:45.880
It's been my understanding that superintelligence is something that is a genie that we don't
01:41:54.860
Basically, the main path, and this is plenty of people in industry working at all the main
01:42:01.720
AI labs, OpenAI, DeepMind, XAI, you name it, Anthropic, they think that if you get automated
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AI research and development, you get the AIs to do AI research itself, then you can just
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spin up 10,000 or 100,000 of these AI researchers, and they can work round the clock at 100 times
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the speed of humans, say, and then you're getting really rapid developments.
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If you're getting like 10x faster than a group of humans doing research, that might mean a decade's
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So, the main thing to look at would be, can they automate all of AI research?
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If they can do that, then there's very little friction, and things move from human speeds
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to machine speeds, and AI development goes extremely more quickly.
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Wouldn't we go to that conclusion if they were six months behind, and now they're right in
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So, AI research has sped up substantially in the past few months with the emergence of these
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Earlier, they would just give their intuitive response to things, but now they can be taught
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to think and contemplate some minutes before answering.
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And this is giving them new reasoning abilities, and the rate of development for this goes from
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performance on benchmarks and evaluations and tests.
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The performance of those usually would go up a few percent every couple months.
01:43:57.040
So, AI research has really picked up behind the scenes, and this is making them extremely
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capable at science, technology, engineering, mathematics types of topics.
01:44:07.860
But it's still not to the level of being able to automate all of AI research and development.
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But when they can do that, then that brings us into an era of even much faster AI development,
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and that could give rise to some AIs that are much smarter than all people or some superintelligence.
01:44:27.160
So, Dan, I read this morning that the development of AI could create 50 million new jobs by the
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But I also know AI agents are just around the corner, and that's the beginning of destroying many jobs.
01:44:49.560
Where are these jobs coming from, and does that lessen the need for the idea of like a UBI?
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I mean, I was just at an AI economics workshop with Nobel economists and whatnot, and there's not really an understanding of exactly what its economic impacts will be.
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One way is it could just automate basically everything, and then there's nothing for anybody to do.
01:45:21.360
And then the main people who will make money are the people who own the big supercomputers in the data centers.
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And everybody else is just dependent on some AI tax, or maybe they will own a fraction of the data centers.
01:45:37.260
That way they have some amount of power in society and aren't completely dependent on the government to give them money.
01:45:45.520
A different way things could go is that things become really bottlenecked by a few things,
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although most things are automated, maybe like legal bottlenecks or regulatory bottlenecks.
01:45:55.860
Like you need a six-month process for environmental approval before you can do that, even before you can build a new factory.
01:46:03.140
So even if everything else can be automated extremely quickly, if some of these approval processes take many months,
01:46:11.340
So the resources go to the scarce factors or the bottlenecks.
01:46:17.300
So those are two different views, that some random people who are situated around some of these economic bottlenecks will get a lot of the money,
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or those bottlenecks will be blasted through by AI, and then the money will just flow to the data center.
01:46:31.500
Geez, I mean, neither of those sound really great.
01:46:37.560
You're able to explain things, and I might feel just a little better than I did earlier this week, but not much.
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When we come back, we're going to talk about something that I noticed about Melania Trump.
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She has almost an identical signature to Donald Trump, and I've never seen that before in husband and wife.
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This week, I was in Washington, D.C., Stu and I were there, and we were just snooping around other people's offices, because we could, because we were there early and nobody was there.
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So we just went through the stuff of many people's offices.
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And I saw a letter and I saw a letter and a photo from Melania Trump that was framed on somebody's wall.
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And I looked at it, and I couldn't believe it was Melania's signature.
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And Donald Trump has a very stylized signature.
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And so I asked if we could get, you know, some sort of expert on.
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And, of course, the overachievers, my staff, they went and they got the world's top forensic handwriting expert.
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I mean, highly regarded legal consultant, expert witness, entrepreneur.
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And in his spare time, he scuba dives with stingrays and does stand-up comedy.
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I've been looking at this handwriting for 20 years.
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It's so much fun to talk about these interesting people.
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So have you ever seen a husband and wife's signature that close?
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Mother-daughter is pretty common because they grow up in the same household.
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Sometimes it's even hard to tell the difference.
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But it's pretty unusual for a wife to take on the personality of the husband in a signature.
01:50:45.420
I mean, how much of this stuff is, you know, like, ah, fortune-telling, and how much is real in handwriting analysis?
01:50:52.200
Yeah, that's a fair question, and I probably wouldn't have gone all in 30 years ago if I cared what the mainstream psychology thought.
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But I testify in court on million-dollar cases, so there's something to identifying a human by their handwriting.
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What I found, that there is a few things from handwriting, such as aggressiveness or temper, personality, and, you know, all those things, which is really cool when it comes through.
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Now, your listeners under 35, they may not even write anymore.
01:51:22.880
But Melania, you, and Donald, you guys all learn how to write cursos, so I think it'll show true.
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Well, so let's talk about Melania for a second.
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Her signature is different than her normal writing, and a lot of us create a signature that's a brand, and it's not really reflective of who we are with our friends and our spouses.
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Like, there's a lot of great things about her in her normal handwriting.
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And then her signature, I agree with you, it mimics Trump's, like, long descenders, pointiness, all the stuff.
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But it seems like she, I'd like to see her signature before she married him and see how profoundly it changed, because I think it changed based on his influence.
01:52:19.860
I mean, the one thing, Donald Trump, you see his signature, and it is like a brand.
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But what's interesting is his handwriting does match his signature.
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I talked about what a genius he was, how impatient he was, how fast-thinking he was.
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And I got so much crap from everybody by calling him a genius in 2016.
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So the pointier the M's and N's, the more analytical and strategic somebody is.
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The more rounded their handwriting, the more nurturing they are.
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And by the way, Glenn, you're kind of the same way.
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Most radio hosts I've ever met have been fast-thinking, comprehensive, fluid.
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Like, that's a great, you found the perfect job for yourself.
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I mean, my handwriting is practically like bubble writing, I think.
01:53:32.120
Well, flowy means fluid, which means anybody can ask you any question,
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And the people that write too pretty are pain in the butt.
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They want to tell you what time to be up and go to – they're overly controlling.
01:54:00.840
I don't think I could win an argument with you.
01:54:06.900
So what gives Donald Trump's handwriting this deeply analytical,
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He prints everything, and he makes angles where curves should be.
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And I got in a lot of heat because I did a video 10 years ago about him,
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and I compared him to some of the German leaders, you know, back in the war.
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It's that generally, the way Germans taught handwriting, they had angles instead of curves.
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And as a culture, Nazis aside, they're very analytical, on time, structured, and – so that metaphor got me in a lot of trouble.
01:54:54.740
But I still think that people with analytical and strategic minds are less compassionate, and they're more strategic.
01:55:01.280
So I think he's like a bull in a china cabinet.
01:55:09.380
Like, if you're watching a Keanu Reeves movie, you want all that stuff.
01:55:19.840
And I think his latest hand-in-the-one is even more impatient than it was 10 years ago.
01:55:26.560
I've never met anybody that I think can process as much as he can at the same time.
01:55:35.140
You know, he is – he's almost a supercomputer when it comes to the thing – like, this week is a great example of it.
01:55:42.260
He went from one thing to another to another to another, and they were vastly different, and he mastered each of them.
01:55:50.680
I mean, he just – he was aware of everything that seems to be going on around him.
01:55:59.140
Well, that trait is called comprehensive thinking.
01:56:03.380
The problem is it doesn't always come out in verbal cues.
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He outmaneuvered all of you to the White House twice.
01:56:15.900
But because he's slow and in the middle of his sentence, he's thinking about what's going to happen three moves later like a chess player.
01:56:24.900
And he has an everyday person's vocabulary, which I think also makes him not look like an intellectual because he just – he speaks like the average person speaks, where Vivek Ramaswamy – he's like a machine.
01:56:46.840
He's like a computer that just doesn't speak the way normal people speak.
01:56:50.820
He does, but that connects with people, and that's why some people say, oh, he's not very bright.
01:56:56.700
Well, if you're doing, for example, comedy, you're saying something, but you're thinking about what you're going to say two lines later.
01:57:02.640
He's taking those pauses and those comic beats intentionally.
01:57:07.440
I'm telling you, he's a lot smarter than a lot of the left give him credit for.
01:57:12.620
I mean, you're apparently one of the world's leading handwriting experts and a comedian.
01:57:25.700
I've watched him from backstage, and it's amazing to watch him gauge the audience and his comedic timing.
01:57:34.620
I mean, I think the guy could have been a really great comedian, but he also is constantly – he's throwing things out, and I think everything he does has meaning to it.
01:57:48.180
And he throws things out, and then he watches the audience and how the laugh or the applause spreads.
01:58:00.660
Well, that's a brilliant strategy, but no one would know that unless you've been speaking or doing radio or comedy.
01:58:08.800
But I will tell you, he is a little argumentative, and he does like to be right.
01:58:13.260
And so those traits are great if you're a fan of his, and they're terrible if you hate his politics.
01:58:19.640
You know, stubborn people are liked by people with the same beliefs, but he's fascinating, one of the fascinating men of the 21st century.
01:58:26.220
When you say his handwriting changed from last time you looked at it to now, what increased?
01:58:35.680
I think he's a little sloppier, which means he's more in a hurry.
01:58:39.860
And in all fairness, I'm looking at these executive orders, so you put 200 things on my desk, I'll probably get sloppy too.
01:58:47.580
But I would attribute that to impatience, a lack of caring what people think, meaning I'm not going to take time to sign this autograph because someone can put it on a wall.
01:58:58.080
And so that impatience obviously shows up in his urgency to get things done.
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And now I saw a calmer, smoother guy on The Apprentice, and he was a little more strategic with things he did 10, 15 years ago.
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And if you found anything like serial killer or anything, just keep it to yourself with me.
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Bart Baggett, forensic handwriting expert and Handwriting University founder.
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02:01:08.100
So a couple of things have just happened today.
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Donald Trump has pulled Fauci's security detail, said, you don't get that anymore.
02:01:25.420
He's just given a press conference, and he said, FEMA is a disaster, and I think we need to get rid of it.
02:01:34.480
I'm thinking about reforming it entirely, or just, quite frankly, I think we're just going to get rid of it.
02:01:41.740
He doesn't really outline exactly what happens, but it seems to be federal money would just go to the states, and the states would handle it.
02:01:48.040
He said, why do these states have somebody coming in from Washington?
02:01:52.980
They don't know all the resources of the states.
02:01:54.980
Instead, give the governor and the state the money to help them mobilize.
02:02:02.960
Yeah, well, maybe in the details on some of this stuff, but conceptually, I like it.
02:02:06.900
Oh, I like anything that gets rid of these agencies.
02:02:16.720
I will, it will be interesting to see how far he goes.
02:02:18.640
He's talked about, obviously, a lot of these things, up to the Department of Education.
02:02:29.560
He was talking about destroying the Department of Education.
02:02:35.700
We're talking about the destruction of the Department of Education.
02:02:46.580
You are such a, I mean, I have no idea what music sounds like in porns, but you seem to
02:02:58.740
Like, he's trying, this is his denial of ever looking at anything like that.
02:03:01.920
It's like, I don't even know what the music sounds.
02:03:12.360
Well, I actually, anyway, so you were talking about the destruction of agencies?
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I would like the Department of Education to go away.
02:03:31.920
I would like, you know, school choice to be much more central.
02:03:35.720
And it seems like he's going in that direction.
02:03:42.960
And what I mean, maybe the whole earth, we should pull the plug on that.
02:03:50.320
And just FEMA, he's talking about bringing it down.
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The best part about the show right now is seeing Sarah's face.
02:04:00.380
No, it's Sarah's face and the reaction to you when you make those noises.
02:04:08.440
She's like captured a physical ailment right in front of her eyes.
02:04:16.700
And when I want them to shut up or get out of the room, I just start talking like this.
02:04:22.580
Let me tell you about the night you were creating.
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There's no way they could last 25 seconds through that.
02:05:02.100
Rafe and I have watched it, you know, and just love it.
02:05:13.860
It seems like the advertising makes it seem like a horror movie.
02:05:16.520
It is a horror movie, but it's not like a slasher movie or anything like that.
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It's almost a combination of literature and The Exorcist.
02:05:39.420
So that's a good safety tip for anybody, you know, who's calling on Nosferatu to come possess them.
02:05:49.860
But, I mean, if you want that kind of movie, I mean, Rafe and I went because, well, mom wouldn't.