The Glenn Beck Program - March 19, 2018


'You're the Victim,' Not McCabe (Jim Caviezel & Brad Meltzer join Glenn) - 3⧸19⧸18


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 52 minutes

Words per Minute

159.42378

Word Count

17,873

Sentence Count

1,535

Misogynist Sentences

31

Hate Speech Sentences

62


Summary

Andrew McCabe is a victim, but who's the real victim here? Is it the person on the receiving end of the crime, or the one wearing the ski mask? Glenn Beck explains the difference between a victim and a perpetrator.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Blaze Radio Network, on demand.
00:00:10.280 Love. Courage. Truth. Glenn Beck.
00:00:16.880 Well, our FBI director, Andrew McCabe, was fired over the weekend, and that was the big storm.
00:00:23.600 He was set to receive top-tier retirement benefits by officially retiring on Sunday,
00:00:28.860 but the axe came down just hours before.
00:00:32.380 Now, before I read McCabe's official response, I think it's beneficial to clarify the difference between a victim and someone who's guilty of something.
00:00:41.680 If someone robs a gas station, we don't penalize the worker that just got robbed.
00:00:49.260 We penalize the guy wearing the ski mask.
00:00:52.580 Right? It's pretty simple.
00:00:54.740 But both McCabe and the media can't seem to get this one right.
00:00:59.320 So here's McCabe's official response.
00:01:02.260 Here is the reality.
00:01:03.860 I'm being singled out and treated this way because of the role I played, the actions I took,
00:01:08.160 and the events I witnessed in the aftermath of the firing of James Comey.
00:01:12.220 The OIG's focus on me and this report became part of an unprecedented effort by the administration driven by the president himself to remove me from my position,
00:01:22.640 destroy my reputation, and possibly strip me of a pension that I worked 21 years to earn.
00:01:28.080 My gosh, he's a victim.
00:01:30.300 The Department of Justice Inspector General is clearly just a Trumpian stooge helping the president wage war on the FBI.
00:01:41.820 Trump is hiding all of his collusion.
00:01:44.140 Get him!
00:01:45.700 Because that's the only explanation here, right?
00:01:48.460 Unless you take a step back and go, now, wait a minute, let me look at all of the facts.
00:01:54.160 McCabe isn't the victim here.
00:01:56.480 However, the inspector general found evidence that McCabe was leaking information to the press,
00:02:04.520 and then he lied about it to the inspector general's office under oath.
00:02:10.840 The OIG, the Office of Inspector General, then contacted the FBI's Office of Professional Responsibility,
00:02:19.380 which is basically a fancy name for HR.
00:02:22.880 Now, I want you to know that this particular HR department is not known for doing anything about anybody.
00:02:32.240 They generally don't recommend anything harsh.
00:02:37.560 They were informed about what McCabe had been doing.
00:02:41.640 To reiterate, the charges are leaking information and lying under oath.
00:02:48.200 So what did this HR department do?
00:02:50.840 They recommended, fire him.
00:02:56.480 All right, so you have the OIG and the FBI now saying, fire him.
00:03:04.280 Losing his job should be the least of McCabe's worries.
00:03:08.540 He may be looking at perjury charges.
00:03:11.100 And if he lied under oath, he should be charged with perjury and perhaps obstruction of justice.
00:03:17.520 So seriously, who's the victim here?
00:03:21.880 I contend it's you.
00:03:24.440 I contend it's the people of the United States.
00:03:29.420 Now, Trump's Department of Justice clearly did this to fire some shots at the FBI, right?
00:03:35.600 I mean, it's collusion.
00:03:37.600 Well, no, actually, Trump had nothing to do with the investigation by the inspector general.
00:03:41.920 That's the deal with the office, OIG, Office of Inspector General.
00:03:47.680 They're completely neutral.
00:03:50.140 They're taken out of the system.
00:03:52.640 They're they just overwatch.
00:03:55.820 It was actually requested during the Obama administration by two Democrats.
00:04:02.660 Back then, the scandal wasn't Russia, but who was leaking information on Hillary Clinton?
00:04:09.640 Michael Horowitz was the DOJ inspector general and an Obama appointee.
00:04:16.660 Democrats figured this is their ace in the hole to find out who was hurting Hillary.
00:04:20.840 Well, now we know who was doing it.
00:04:23.620 But Democrats in the media somehow or another have forgotten how this whole thing started
00:04:27.800 and that they were absolutely thrilled when this investigation began.
00:04:32.720 The Democrats hated the FBI back when all of this began and they were looking for someone to blame.
00:04:39.480 But now they love the FBI and somehow are trying to find someone to blame the president
00:04:45.040 for an investigation that they called for under the Obama administration
00:04:50.480 and that is being conducted by an Obama appointee.
00:04:55.240 So, again, I just have to ask, who is the victim here?
00:05:00.660 The person on the receiving end of the crime?
00:05:04.440 Or the deputy director wearing the ski mask that is now going to take 21 years of pension from you?
00:05:21.420 It's Monday, March 19th.
00:05:23.680 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.
00:05:26.740 You know, do you feel like you get any news, real news from anybody anymore?
00:05:31.380 Do you feel like you even understand?
00:05:34.200 When you're online, do you feel like you really understand and can trust the stories anymore?
00:05:39.640 I've got to go like to 14 different sources before I trust that I have it down.
00:05:45.100 Yeah, I'm honestly just bored with it at this point.
00:05:48.680 You know, it's weird.
00:05:49.980 It's not boring in a 1700s, you know, Jane Austen movie way.
00:05:56.780 Really?
00:05:57.620 It's boring in the Fast and Furious kind of way.
00:06:02.120 Like, we all know that you go to a Fast and Furious movie and there's going to be a lot of car chases and explosions.
00:06:09.260 And it's not to say that any of those individual things aren't exciting, but when you step back, are you excited about a new Fast and Furious movie?
00:06:18.140 It's the same crap.
00:06:19.480 You know everything.
00:06:20.400 You know there's going to be a car that takes off from one bridge, blows up in midair, flips over.
00:06:25.320 The person inside is going to jump out of the car and land somehow in another car on the other bridge and live.
00:06:31.340 I guess, you know what, I think I understand what you're saying, because if you miss one Fast and Furious, you can pick it up at the next one.
00:06:38.220 You really didn't miss anything.
00:06:39.860 I didn't miss anything.
00:06:40.680 Right.
00:06:41.220 It's like you kind of roll your eyes while you're there.
00:06:43.360 And it's like the media reaction to all of this is always constant, massive, mega explosions with Vin Diesel level.
00:06:53.000 And, you know, you get that every single day for multiple years and it just becomes dull.
00:07:01.140 You know, I know it's an explosion, but it's just dull at this point.
00:07:04.980 I'm every one of these every day.
00:07:07.180 I feel like we just waste our time.
00:07:08.460 You know, what did Tokyo Drift really change anyone's life?
00:07:14.360 And I think the answer to that is no, no, no.
00:07:16.880 So here's some good news for you.
00:07:19.440 The Women's March is losing membership.
00:07:23.680 That is really good news.
00:07:26.240 Members of its own administration, after refusing to distance itself from the noted anti-Semitic Louis Farrakhan,
00:07:34.500 According to the New York Post, the group's social media director, Alyssa Klein,
00:07:40.260 jumped ship last week and condemned the Women's March leadership on her way out,
00:07:45.800 calling Farrakhan a dangerous troll.
00:07:49.200 I think he's more than a dangerous troll.
00:07:52.320 Maybe that's just me, but I'll take it.
00:07:54.460 I'll take it.
00:07:55.420 She suggested the Women's March take those in leadership positions to task for supporting him.
00:08:02.480 She wrote on Twitter,
00:08:04.540 I respect loyalty, but I do not respect unquestioning loyalty,
00:08:09.360 especially if it means attacking those who are asking legitimate questions,
00:08:13.560 and especially if it means turning a blind eye to the hate spoken about a group of people.
00:08:19.000 Question leaders.
00:08:21.000 Leaders, be open to questions.
00:08:23.980 Wow, that's fantastic.
00:08:27.520 Alyssa Klein is her name.
00:08:29.380 In recent weeks, see if you knew this.
00:08:32.340 In recent weeks, the movement, the Women's March, the movement lost support of Planned Parenthood.
00:08:40.860 I didn't hear that.
00:08:42.740 Did you hear that everywhere?
00:08:44.220 I did not.
00:08:44.920 I did not hear that.
00:08:46.760 Perhaps the movement's foremost ally in support of women's rights
00:08:50.460 and smaller state-based branches of the Women's March have broken off from the main entity,
00:08:58.680 citing Tamika Mallory and Linda Sarsour's love for Farrakhan.
00:09:03.380 Now, how is it that the biggest, most powerful, I mean, imagine the Tea Party,
00:09:13.980 the Tea Party broke away from, you know, I don't know, think of in the height,
00:09:19.860 Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck.
00:09:23.620 Would that have been news?
00:09:25.820 It may have been mentioned, yeah.
00:09:27.200 It may have been mentioned.
00:09:28.380 It may have been mentioned.
00:09:29.180 Yeah.
00:09:29.740 It may have been mentioned.
00:09:32.320 So, there's some good news there.
00:09:34.240 I will tell you that Dershowitz was on television over the weekend.
00:09:39.620 In fact, let's play the segment where he was talking about the Democrats that are embracing Louis Farrakhan.
00:09:46.900 I think Keith Ellison has to be fired immediately as deputy chairman of the DNC.
00:09:53.200 Not only has he become close to Farrakhan, but he's lied to the American public about ending his relationship with Farrakhan.
00:10:00.880 We know that he continued to meet with Farrakhan even after he said he no longer met with him.
00:10:06.020 This is the leadership of the Democratic Party.
00:10:08.460 Farrakhan is a bigot.
00:10:10.120 He is far worse than David Duke.
00:10:12.120 Why?
00:10:12.840 Because Farrakhan has a large following.
00:10:15.320 David Duke is a joke.
00:10:16.460 He doesn't have a large following.
00:10:18.180 He has no influence on university campuses.
00:10:20.220 He has no influence with any major segment of the American public.
00:10:23.800 But we see that Farrakhan has continuing influence within the African-American community at the very highest levels.
00:10:31.260 That's why he's so much more dangerous.
00:10:33.500 And he ought to be treated the way we treat David Duke.
00:10:36.360 If any Republican dared to meet with David Duke, that would be the end of their career.
00:10:41.500 It should be the end of the career of any Democrat who has any association with this bigot Farrakhan.
00:10:46.720 So I think this is really, I think this is really important.
00:10:52.560 Um, and I think we need to, I think we all need to decide who we are and where our lines are.
00:11:00.420 You want to always decide, you know, what I'm willing to do before you're asked to do it.
00:11:06.720 You know, you think of the worst case scenarios and like, would I do that?
00:11:12.760 No.
00:11:13.480 So when you get there, you already know the answer.
00:11:17.040 And I thought for a very long time that there were things that we could all agree on.
00:11:21.800 And I still believe this stopping sexual harassment and abuse of women, of men.
00:11:28.300 It doesn't matter.
00:11:30.280 Stopping sexual and quite honestly, mental abuse, physical abuse, any kind of abuse.
00:11:39.860 I can't imagine anyone making a case for that standing by.
00:11:45.240 Oh, you know what?
00:11:46.080 It's not so bad.
00:11:48.020 It is.
00:11:49.120 And we all know that.
00:11:50.960 And that's why the Me Too movement.
00:11:55.480 Beside the political aspect of it has made a real difference.
00:12:00.640 Because we're not those people.
00:12:04.980 We're not, you know, in the 1950s and, you know, madmen.
00:12:11.640 We're just not those people.
00:12:13.740 We agree on that.
00:12:15.980 We agree on stopping bigotry against those who are different or choose to live differently.
00:12:23.280 We're not bigots.
00:12:24.440 We don't want to round anybody up.
00:12:30.080 We'll judge people as individuals.
00:12:32.700 Now, this one has gotten slippery.
00:12:37.060 Because we're just replacing one individual with another individual.
00:12:43.340 And that's not the goal.
00:12:44.740 That's not progress.
00:12:45.900 Taking the homosexuals and saying, okay, homosexuals, transgendered.
00:12:50.800 You're now okay, but Christians are bad.
00:12:53.080 No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:12:57.880 Okay, we've fixed the race problem.
00:13:01.260 Blacks are cool.
00:13:02.580 Whites are bad.
00:13:03.620 No.
00:13:08.040 Every real American that I know,
00:13:13.740 they know that this is,
00:13:15.660 they know that Martin Luther King was right.
00:13:18.660 Judge people on the content of their character,
00:13:21.100 not the color of their skin.
00:13:23.080 Not their sexual identity or any of that nonsense.
00:13:27.700 What's the content of their character?
00:13:30.960 And as Martin Luther King said,
00:13:33.120 America, it's time you live up to the words that you worship.
00:13:38.180 All men are created equal.
00:13:43.000 That's all we have to do is live up to it.
00:13:46.720 And there was another category that I really thought that we all agreed on.
00:13:51.200 And that is, you know,
00:13:52.800 I don't think we call Jews vermin.
00:13:57.080 What do you say?
00:13:58.360 It didn't work out well.
00:13:59.540 Hasn't worked out well in the past.
00:14:03.500 Apparently,
00:14:04.260 for the old right,
00:14:06.360 and for the extreme left,
00:14:09.000 that's a hard one to get their arms around.
00:14:12.100 You have a hard time not saying Jews are vermin.
00:14:15.380 You know,
00:14:15.640 but the rest of America,
00:14:16.760 Democrats and Republicans,
00:14:18.080 I mean,
00:14:18.320 the ones who are actually out in the middle of the country working,
00:14:20.960 they don't have a problem with that.
00:14:22.180 They're not talking about how the Jews control everything.
00:14:30.360 There is no difference between neo-Nazis and Farrakhan.
00:14:34.960 When it comes to the Jews,
00:14:36.740 they agree.
00:14:39.220 And we condemn them because
00:14:41.840 they believe that the black man or the white man is the cause of not all of the problems,
00:14:47.880 because really all of the problems are caused by them dirty Jews.
00:14:55.920 Democrats,
00:14:57.020 this is your challenge,
00:14:59.460 just as the Republicans have theirs.
00:15:02.820 The alt-right hates the Jews.
00:15:07.180 That is the canary in the coal mine.
00:15:11.160 Democrats,
00:15:12.360 the leaders of the Women's March,
00:15:15.220 are embracing Farrakhan,
00:15:17.880 by just saying,
00:15:20.800 well,
00:15:21.060 they obviously hate the Jews.
00:15:26.000 Again,
00:15:26.880 when you see anti-Semitism,
00:15:29.800 you have to get away from it.
00:15:32.600 Or,
00:15:34.100 when that canary stops singing,
00:15:37.940 you're next.
00:15:40.340 And we will all be dragged down and die
00:15:43.180 in the darkness of the coal mine.
00:15:47.880 I think we can all agree on
00:15:53.040 Jews aren't vermin.
00:15:55.360 What do you say?
00:15:56.160 Let's make that,
00:15:56.980 the bar is getting lower and lower every day.
00:15:59.180 What do you say?
00:16:00.020 That's our Monday slogan.
00:16:02.340 Jews are not vermin.
00:16:04.060 They're not the root of all evil.
00:16:05.520 They're not the problem.
00:16:07.480 It's a high bar to clear for the Women's March.
00:16:09.080 I don't think they can pull that one off.
00:16:10.560 It's a hard one to clear if you're a neo-Nazi, too.
00:16:15.900 Yeah,
00:16:16.280 it does seem to be that way.
00:16:17.540 Yeah,
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00:17:50.020 So on Friday,
00:17:51.880 we had the director and Dennis Quaid
00:17:54.720 and a lot of the people involved
00:17:57.520 in the movie.
00:17:58.920 I can only imagine.
00:18:00.440 It was expected to open
00:18:01.440 at about $2 million.
00:18:03.400 You know,
00:18:04.140 they were only about $15 million short.
00:18:08.220 It opened in half over,
00:18:11.960 I'm sorry,
00:18:12.700 over half of the theaters.
00:18:14.920 I believe what you mean is less than half.
00:18:16.780 I'm sorry.
00:18:17.120 Yeah.
00:18:17.260 Less than half of the theaters
00:18:18.780 for Black Panther and Tomb Raider,
00:18:21.420 it came in number three
00:18:24.420 at $17 million.
00:18:27.040 Tomb Raider was $23 million
00:18:28.840 and Black Panther was $27 million.
00:18:31.220 $10 million shy.
00:18:32.820 If they would have had all of the theaters,
00:18:35.340 it may have,
00:18:36.860 at least would have been number two.
00:18:39.000 Yeah,
00:18:39.140 pretty incredible.
00:18:40.040 I mean,
00:18:40.600 that's amazing.
00:18:42.780 And on a $7 million budget,
00:18:44.640 a $17 million first weekend,
00:18:46.080 that's a nice turn.
00:18:47.400 Where Tomb Raider was $94 million
00:18:49.160 and it made $23 million.
00:18:51.760 Yeah,
00:18:52.000 that's not a good start.
00:18:53.400 Yeah,
00:18:53.600 not a good start.
00:18:54.380 Not a good start.
00:18:55.100 That's incredible.
00:18:56.480 Wrinkle in Time
00:18:57.260 only made $16 million.
00:19:01.300 Love Simon,
00:19:02.600 $11 million.
00:19:04.700 Game Night.
00:19:05.940 Game Night was solid.
00:19:07.100 Was it?
00:19:07.540 Yeah,
00:19:07.760 it was very funny.
00:19:08.460 I mean,
00:19:08.600 it's an R-rated comedy
00:19:09.580 with Jason Bateman,
00:19:11.500 but very,
00:19:11.920 very funny.
00:19:12.340 I like Jason Bateman.
00:19:13.180 Yeah,
00:19:13.360 he's really funny.
00:19:14.240 He's almost solid.
00:19:14.980 Peter Rabbit,
00:19:15.660 did you see that?
00:19:16.700 My kids saw it.
00:19:17.700 Yeah.
00:19:19.200 They like everything,
00:19:20.220 so they liked it.
00:19:21.460 Strangers,
00:19:22.100 Prey at Night,
00:19:23.560 Red Sparrow.
00:19:24.620 Red Sparrow was pretty solid.
00:19:25.820 It was a little confusing
00:19:26.620 and a little long,
00:19:27.460 but pretty good.
00:19:28.340 Number nine.
00:19:28.580 I think that was killed by her.
00:19:31.100 I mean,
00:19:31.360 it was Jennifer Lawrence.
00:19:32.260 Yeah.
00:19:32.840 I think all of her,
00:19:34.060 you know.
00:19:34.680 Oddly,
00:19:35.020 if you've seen it,
00:19:35.460 it was also saved by her.
00:19:38.880 Death Wish.
00:19:40.180 Death Wish has got to be,
00:19:41.320 I saw this too,
00:19:41.960 probably the most pro-NRA movie
00:19:44.600 ever made.
00:19:46.080 It's just,
00:19:46.840 there are times where they're just like
00:19:48.340 two-minute rants about how important it is
00:19:50.580 for you to have a gun to protect yourself
00:19:51.920 because the cops won't show up fast enough.
00:19:54.060 Like,
00:19:54.220 it's like,
00:19:54.920 it's like you're listening to a talk show
00:19:56.500 in movie form.
00:19:57.740 It's great.
00:19:59.600 Seven Days in Entebbe
00:20:01.020 came in at number 13.
00:20:02.960 I saw that last night.
00:20:04.700 That's really good.
00:20:06.620 Really good.
00:20:07.240 Especially if you,
00:20:09.160 you know,
00:20:09.440 if you're into history,
00:20:10.840 it's a pretty amazing story.
00:20:12.840 Seven Days in Entebbe.
00:20:15.120 By the way,
00:20:15.860 we have Jim Caviezel coming up
00:20:17.620 in studio today.
00:20:21.780 Glenn Beck.
00:20:23.600 Mercury.
00:20:29.920 You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.
00:20:32.420 Stu,
00:20:32.840 I,
00:20:33.100 I know you're,
00:20:34.580 you know,
00:20:35.760 you're very much into the stats of global warming
00:20:37.640 and there is a new theory now
00:20:41.140 on what caused the snow in Washington, D.C.
00:20:45.640 This is D.C.
00:20:47.060 City Council member,
00:20:49.000 Treyon White,
00:20:50.880 on the snow in Washington, D.C.
00:20:53.880 Man,
00:20:54.440 it just started snowing out of nowhere this morning, man.
00:20:57.560 Y'all better pay attention to this climate control, man.
00:21:00.620 This climate manipulation.
00:21:02.420 And D.C. keep talking about,
00:21:03.620 we're a resilient city.
00:21:04.740 And that's a model based off the Rothschilds
00:21:07.080 controlling the climate
00:21:08.020 to create natural disasters
00:21:10.200 they can pay for to own the cities, man.
00:21:11.960 Be careful.
00:21:13.860 Okay.
00:21:14.680 So that would be the Jews
00:21:16.500 controlling
00:21:18.040 the climate.
00:21:21.020 That's a D.C.
00:21:22.460 City Council member.
00:21:23.660 Weren't you just trying to set the high bar
00:21:25.640 of the Jews on vermin?
00:21:27.220 Yes,
00:21:27.580 well,
00:21:27.880 he didn't say they were vermin.
00:21:29.120 No.
00:21:29.240 He just said that the Rothschilds
00:21:30.620 were controlling the weather.
00:21:31.860 And he's employed by anyone?
00:21:36.320 What is he?
00:21:37.060 A city councilman?
00:21:37.920 He's a city councilman.
00:21:38.580 Unreal.
00:21:39.240 For the District of Columbia.
00:21:40.700 Well,
00:21:41.060 he took the lid off of that one.
00:21:43.580 Now,
00:21:44.080 here's a state representative
00:21:46.100 that is working,
00:21:51.100 let's see,
00:21:52.740 West Bridgewater.
00:21:54.020 This is up,
00:21:55.660 I believe,
00:21:56.440 in Massachusetts.
00:21:58.100 Her name is Michelle Dubois.
00:22:01.040 And here's what
00:22:02.300 she had to say
00:22:03.940 about
00:22:04.800 a sign
00:22:06.460 that is
00:22:08.920 marking
00:22:09.720 a very famous
00:22:11.240 general
00:22:12.240 and a statue.
00:22:13.920 Go ahead.
00:22:14.400 Female staffers
00:22:15.440 don't use that entrance
00:22:16.980 because
00:22:17.400 the sign
00:22:18.740 is offensive to them.
00:22:20.160 It's just a little
00:22:20.980 semantics,
00:22:22.200 a little wordplay
00:22:23.220 that some people
00:22:24.340 find very charming
00:22:25.340 and funny,
00:22:26.040 but I find
00:22:27.200 can be hurtful.
00:22:28.520 Okay.
00:22:30.600 That's the,
00:22:31.580 but that's not
00:22:32.140 what the sign is.
00:22:33.220 No,
00:22:33.520 you don't know
00:22:34.100 what the sign is.
00:22:34.540 The sign says
00:22:35.160 General
00:22:37.220 Hooker
00:22:39.040 Entrance.
00:22:40.340 And
00:22:43.260 it's,
00:22:44.800 you know,
00:22:45.160 apparently famous
00:22:46.960 General Hooker.
00:22:48.800 And
00:22:49.020 so she is saying
00:22:50.520 that
00:22:50.960 she wants
00:22:52.100 the sign
00:22:52.740 taken down
00:22:53.480 because she's
00:22:54.180 offended by
00:22:55.080 the man's name.
00:22:56.640 Oh my gosh.
00:22:57.460 General Hooker.
00:22:58.640 They're not calling
00:22:59.800 her a hooker.
00:23:00.720 She is aware of this?
00:23:01.980 No,
00:23:02.240 I don't think
00:23:02.680 she's saying
00:23:03.180 because she's
00:23:03.740 she would never
00:23:04.400 use that doorway.
00:23:05.980 She's just saying,
00:23:07.000 you know,
00:23:07.240 you know,
00:23:07.940 all the general
00:23:08.580 hookers in the area
00:23:09.660 that use that
00:23:10.940 entrance.
00:23:11.560 Generally,
00:23:12.200 if you're a hooker,
00:23:13.220 you should enter here.
00:23:14.420 Yeah.
00:23:14.940 Or if you're a
00:23:15.860 general hooker,
00:23:16.420 if you're not a
00:23:16.920 specific hooker,
00:23:18.200 right?
00:23:18.360 Okay.
00:23:18.540 Like you'll make
00:23:19.540 it with anybody,
00:23:20.680 you know,
00:23:21.520 general hookers
00:23:22.300 through here,
00:23:22.820 specific hookers
00:23:24.100 have another entrance
00:23:25.140 off to the side.
00:23:25.900 Right.
00:23:26.020 Like you have a
00:23:26.500 particular fetish
00:23:27.440 that you specialize
00:23:28.180 in.
00:23:29.160 If you are,
00:23:29.940 if you have a
00:23:30.800 dominatrix situation,
00:23:33.160 maybe you go
00:23:33.540 through a different way,
00:23:34.360 but if you're just
00:23:34.820 a general,
00:23:35.420 you're just generally
00:23:35.920 speaking a hooker,
00:23:37.020 or you walk
00:23:37.520 through that door.
00:23:38.320 Okay.
00:23:38.620 Yeah.
00:23:38.780 You'll service anybody.
00:23:40.240 That's your doorway.
00:23:41.200 That's your entrance.
00:23:41.960 And you can stand there
00:23:42.940 and see that statue
00:23:43.900 coincidentally named
00:23:46.320 general hooker.
00:23:48.060 What are the odds?
00:23:49.100 So he was also
00:23:50.160 a prostitute?
00:23:51.140 No,
00:23:51.360 he was.
00:23:51.640 No,
00:23:51.900 he wasn't.
00:23:52.740 No.
00:23:53.700 So this is an actual
00:23:54.980 issue.
00:23:55.480 They actually,
00:23:56.020 this is an actual
00:23:57.000 issue.
00:23:57.540 She is trying to
00:23:58.180 get this,
00:23:58.780 the sign.
00:23:59.620 Listen to her again.
00:24:00.980 It's hurtful.
00:24:01.940 Female staffers
00:24:02.780 don't use that
00:24:03.820 entrance because
00:24:04.740 the sign
00:24:06.060 is offensive
00:24:06.840 to them.
00:24:07.460 It's just a little
00:24:08.340 semantics,
00:24:09.540 a little wordplay
00:24:10.540 that some people
00:24:11.680 find very charming
00:24:12.700 and funny,
00:24:13.340 but I find
00:24:14.520 can be hurtful.
00:24:15.740 Okay.
00:24:15.960 A,
00:24:16.240 it's not hurtful
00:24:17.480 unless somebody
00:24:18.220 takes that sign
00:24:19.100 and hits you
00:24:19.640 over the head.
00:24:20.800 Okay.
00:24:21.400 Then it is hurtful.
00:24:23.540 That's how signs
00:24:24.160 are you.
00:24:24.540 It may make you
00:24:26.000 uncomfortable
00:24:26.960 because you're
00:24:28.780 doing the wordplay.
00:24:30.900 Right.
00:24:31.160 Because the sign
00:24:31.740 is not wordplay.
00:24:33.180 No.
00:24:33.360 It is not
00:24:33.760 something that
00:24:34.220 people find
00:24:34.880 to be kind
00:24:35.580 of funny.
00:24:36.540 General Hooker
00:24:37.700 entrance.
00:24:39.060 You're going
00:24:39.800 to see
00:24:40.580 General Hooker.
00:24:42.280 That's the
00:24:43.080 entrance.
00:24:44.840 You are
00:24:45.540 playing a little
00:24:46.340 wordplay.
00:24:46.940 What are you
00:24:48.440 eight?
00:24:49.580 General Hooker.
00:24:51.260 General Hooker
00:24:52.900 is coming
00:24:53.460 through here.
00:24:54.800 Oh,
00:24:55.060 you are a
00:24:56.100 hooker.
00:24:57.080 I mean,
00:24:58.040 it is,
00:24:58.960 it's really
00:25:00.560 seventh grade.
00:25:02.460 We really do
00:25:03.240 have the world
00:25:04.100 we deserve
00:25:04.680 if that is
00:25:05.700 who we are.
00:25:06.360 Seriously,
00:25:07.000 women,
00:25:08.040 is this,
00:25:08.780 is this your
00:25:09.360 movement?
00:25:10.520 Are you so,
00:25:11.820 I will say
00:25:12.400 it's better
00:25:12.880 than the
00:25:13.220 We Hate the
00:25:13.720 Jews Women's
00:25:14.400 March movement.
00:25:15.180 The I'm
00:25:15.800 Offended by
00:25:16.440 the Hooker
00:25:17.020 sign movement
00:25:17.780 is better
00:25:18.420 than the
00:25:18.960 We Hate the
00:25:19.600 Jews Women's
00:25:20.360 March movement.
00:25:20.760 Okay,
00:25:21.460 again,
00:25:22.440 again,
00:25:23.180 the bar is
00:25:24.320 very low here,
00:25:25.660 but can we
00:25:26.540 raise it up
00:25:27.280 just a little
00:25:28.100 bit?
00:25:28.400 I mean,
00:25:29.660 you know,
00:25:30.460 this is,
00:25:31.440 you know what
00:25:31.780 this is?
00:25:33.060 This is
00:25:33.740 making women
00:25:35.340 why,
00:25:37.340 oh my,
00:25:38.840 I might be
00:25:39.860 getting a case
00:25:40.620 of the vapors.
00:25:41.840 Oh my goodness,
00:25:42.920 don't say that
00:25:43.680 in front of us
00:25:44.380 ladies.
00:25:45.640 I mean,
00:25:46.040 that's what
00:25:46.640 this is.
00:25:49.900 My
00:25:50.460 General Hooker,
00:25:51.820 my stars,
00:25:53.520 I've never,
00:25:54.180 oh,
00:25:54.660 I've just
00:25:55.120 got to sit
00:25:56.540 down.
00:25:57.840 How,
00:25:58.320 what,
00:25:58.540 we need
00:25:59.140 fainting
00:25:59.620 couches
00:26:00.060 for all
00:26:00.520 of these
00:26:00.840 quote,
00:26:01.240 feminists.
00:26:02.740 Just in
00:26:03.300 case they,
00:26:03.980 well,
00:26:04.160 I just,
00:26:04.700 oh,
00:26:04.980 I think
00:26:05.460 I'm a
00:26:05.800 little
00:26:05.960 lightheaded.
00:26:07.240 It is
00:26:07.820 amazing,
00:26:08.480 the sort
00:26:09.040 of weird
00:26:09.460 double standards
00:26:10.080 we have
00:26:10.520 with this
00:26:10.800 stuff.
00:26:11.200 Because,
00:26:11.480 again,
00:26:11.960 like we all,
00:26:12.520 it's the
00:26:12.780 same people
00:26:13.400 who get
00:26:13.700 offended by
00:26:14.420 the word
00:26:15.980 hooker on
00:26:16.480 a sign
00:26:17.000 that is a
00:26:17.800 guy's name
00:26:18.460 are the
00:26:18.980 same people
00:26:19.400 who will
00:26:19.800 tell you
00:26:20.180 that wearing
00:26:21.000 a hat
00:26:21.560 with a
00:26:22.120 female body
00:26:22.760 part on
00:26:23.240 it is
00:26:23.880 completely
00:26:24.800 fine.
00:26:25.820 And shan't
00:26:26.420 ever be
00:26:27.180 criticized.
00:26:27.940 They're the
00:26:28.220 ones,
00:26:28.680 they're the
00:26:29.240 ones who
00:26:30.020 when you
00:26:30.800 say,
00:26:31.320 hey,
00:26:31.460 can you
00:26:31.740 not use
00:26:32.180 that
00:26:32.400 language?
00:26:33.540 Hey,
00:26:33.980 free speech.
00:26:35.940 Okay.
00:26:36.520 All right.
00:26:37.100 Okay.
00:26:37.480 I just,
00:26:37.960 I just have
00:26:38.640 my nursing
00:26:40.040 daughter and
00:26:41.460 all of my
00:26:42.320 kids who are
00:26:43.080 under eight
00:26:43.880 and you're
00:26:45.100 using the
00:26:45.900 F word in
00:26:47.100 ways I've
00:26:48.220 not even
00:26:48.740 heard.
00:26:49.900 Free speech.
00:26:50.600 You don't
00:26:51.000 like it?
00:26:51.800 Go to
00:26:52.340 another
00:26:52.680 country,
00:26:53.440 pal.
00:26:54.540 Oh,
00:26:55.100 okay.
00:26:55.460 Thank you,
00:26:55.880 ma'am.
00:26:56.360 It's like
00:26:56.680 we have
00:26:57.440 Clay Travis
00:26:59.380 goes on
00:26:59.800 CNN and
00:27:00.360 says the
00:27:00.720 word boobs
00:27:01.460 and it's
00:27:01.780 like a
00:27:02.140 month-long
00:27:03.060 controversy.
00:27:05.600 Now,
00:27:07.080 I'll bring
00:27:07.800 that up
00:27:08.140 because I
00:27:09.140 heard a
00:27:09.500 commercial
00:27:09.880 on CNN,
00:27:11.400 the same
00:27:11.680 network,
00:27:12.200 which you're
00:27:12.480 apparently not
00:27:13.100 to say,
00:27:13.660 you're not
00:27:14.060 allowed to
00:27:14.380 say boobs.
00:27:15.380 And they
00:27:15.720 are doing
00:27:16.000 a multi-part
00:27:17.100 special about
00:27:18.960 sex around
00:27:20.040 the world.
00:27:21.500 And again,
00:27:22.060 they're...
00:27:22.480 Oh,
00:27:22.720 I can't
00:27:23.620 take that.
00:27:24.700 No,
00:27:25.400 no,
00:27:25.420 I can't
00:27:25.860 take that.
00:27:26.180 I couldn't
00:27:26.560 take the
00:27:27.040 Kennedy's
00:27:27.780 special hosted
00:27:29.420 by Martin
00:27:31.260 Sheen.
00:27:31.820 I'm sure
00:27:32.040 that's going
00:27:32.360 to be fair.
00:27:33.120 And the
00:27:34.100 18-year
00:27:36.300 documentary,
00:27:38.080 The Catholics,
00:27:39.200 narrated by
00:27:40.900 Liam Neeson.
00:27:42.300 Oh,
00:27:42.780 it's going to
00:27:44.000 be...
00:27:44.340 Very fair.
00:27:44.900 Oh,
00:27:45.180 very fair.
00:27:45.600 And very
00:27:46.480 pro-Catholic,
00:27:47.260 I'm sure.
00:27:47.640 It's interesting
00:27:48.060 you bring up
00:27:48.400 the host,
00:27:48.700 because that's
00:27:49.140 the part that
00:27:49.740 really weirds me
00:27:51.180 out on this
00:27:51.580 one,
00:27:51.880 because,
00:27:52.480 okay,
00:27:52.840 I know.
00:27:54.220 I get,
00:27:54.700 you want to
00:27:55.000 do a special
00:27:55.600 on sex,
00:27:56.320 I guess you
00:27:56.980 could do it
00:27:57.440 if you're
00:27:57.680 CNN.
00:27:58.100 I don't know
00:27:58.540 why you
00:27:59.840 would need
00:28:00.460 to do that,
00:28:01.000 especially if
00:28:01.760 your standard
00:28:02.280 is you're not
00:28:02.900 allowed to say
00:28:03.340 the word boobs
00:28:03.900 on TV.
00:28:04.760 Ratings.
00:28:05.600 Exactly.
00:28:06.560 But if they
00:28:07.240 wanted ratings,
00:28:08.440 the sex special
00:28:09.640 would not be
00:28:10.680 hosted by
00:28:11.380 Christiane Amanpour,
00:28:13.460 who is the,
00:28:14.400 literally,
00:28:15.140 the worst
00:28:16.000 person on earth
00:28:17.040 to host a
00:28:17.600 sex special.
00:28:18.220 I don't know,
00:28:18.720 I can't quantify
00:28:19.680 why that is,
00:28:20.480 but it is.
00:28:21.560 No,
00:28:21.980 I think in
00:28:22.660 some circles
00:28:23.680 she is
00:28:24.980 a contraceptive.
00:28:28.100 I mean,
00:28:28.520 she is.
00:28:28.880 That's possible.
00:28:30.180 Honey,
00:28:31.160 I just,
00:28:32.600 no,
00:28:33.340 I'm not it.
00:28:33.880 Turn on CNN.
00:28:35.380 Christiane Amanpour is on.
00:28:37.560 That's better than a shower.
00:28:38.660 You're just saying her name.
00:28:39.540 Okay,
00:28:39.840 I'm good.
00:28:40.600 I'm good.
00:28:41.040 It's a little,
00:28:43.600 it's a little disturbing.
00:28:45.080 The double standard
00:28:45.740 is a little frustrating.
00:28:46.740 I can't,
00:28:47.020 I just can't take
00:28:47.700 the double standard.
00:28:48.660 That's,
00:28:48.900 that's,
00:28:49.140 that's,
00:28:49.440 that's,
00:28:49.880 that's really the problem.
00:28:51.660 The people who say
00:28:52.660 that we have to
00:28:55.180 not only be tolerant,
00:28:56.540 but we have to celebrate
00:28:58.580 everything everyone believes
00:29:01.280 unless it's actually
00:29:03.580 history,
00:29:05.900 unless it's,
00:29:06.760 unless it's an actual name
00:29:09.300 of someone.
00:29:10.240 Why then,
00:29:11.080 I,
00:29:11.400 oh,
00:29:11.700 I better sit down.
00:29:13.340 Ah,
00:29:13.540 the vapors here are just,
00:29:15.780 ooh,
00:29:16.080 look at all the ladies
00:29:17.440 that are just passing out.
00:29:25.360 Those are women of ill repute.
00:29:30.680 Chaos at the grocery stores.
00:29:33.220 Love this.
00:29:33.980 This one,
00:29:34.640 you know,
00:29:35.640 when the Jews
00:29:36.600 control the weather,
00:29:37.680 weather,
00:29:38.180 like,
00:29:38.400 what's his name
00:29:39.520 from the D.C.
00:29:40.620 City Council said,
00:29:42.240 it's the Rothschilds
00:29:43.320 controlling the weather.
00:29:44.320 I know,
00:29:44.840 I know it's not.
00:29:45.980 No,
00:29:46.560 it's a winter storm.
00:29:49.340 Yeah.
00:29:50.500 Anyway,
00:29:51.560 of course,
00:29:51.860 then again,
00:29:52.420 I think God
00:29:54.380 is Jewish
00:29:56.000 or he was.
00:29:57.880 Oh,
00:29:58.240 if he's gotten baptized,
00:29:59.620 this is confusing.
00:30:00.660 Anyway,
00:30:01.560 so
00:30:03.060 the storms that are,
00:30:05.240 the first thing you see
00:30:06.200 is everybody going
00:30:06.840 to the grocery store
00:30:07.440 and they're panicking.
00:30:08.620 Why?
00:30:09.200 Because they know
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00:31:22.400 Glenn Beck Mercury.
00:31:24.860 Glenn Beck.
00:31:43.500 So,
00:31:44.460 I'm going to play something
00:31:46.180 from Jonathan Turley.
00:31:47.600 Jonathan Turley
00:31:48.260 is a
00:31:49.000 constitutional scholar,
00:31:51.440 liberal or left-leaning
00:31:53.580 law professor
00:31:56.040 at George Washington
00:31:56.880 University.
00:31:58.180 He has been
00:31:59.540 a steady voice
00:32:01.340 since,
00:32:02.220 I think,
00:32:02.540 even in the 90s
00:32:03.520 is when I first
00:32:05.020 started seeing
00:32:06.100 Jonathan Turley.
00:32:07.480 And generally,
00:32:08.680 he is
00:32:09.400 spot on on things
00:32:10.680 and it doesn't matter
00:32:11.480 which side it is,
00:32:12.740 generally speaking.
00:32:14.440 Here's what he had
00:32:15.480 to say
00:32:16.040 over the weekend
00:32:17.060 about
00:32:18.060 the dismissal
00:32:19.820 of
00:32:20.300 McCabe
00:32:21.360 by the FBI.
00:32:22.880 Listen.
00:32:23.600 Was it justified,
00:32:25.100 this firing?
00:32:26.160 Well,
00:32:26.400 it was justified
00:32:27.120 in the sense that
00:32:28.200 these were
00:32:29.160 career officials
00:32:30.120 at the Office
00:32:30.740 of Professional
00:32:31.240 Responsibility
00:32:32.000 that made this
00:32:33.060 recommendation
00:32:33.520 which is exceedingly
00:32:35.420 rare.
00:32:36.100 In fact,
00:32:36.360 it's unprecedented
00:32:37.000 for someone
00:32:38.000 in this position.
00:32:39.540 These are not
00:32:40.460 political appointees.
00:32:42.160 The OPR,
00:32:42.980 quite frankly,
00:32:43.760 is not viewed
00:32:44.320 as a particularly
00:32:44.880 aggressive office.
00:32:46.080 So all of that
00:32:47.420 makes this
00:32:48.180 a relatively
00:32:49.020 rare sanction
00:32:50.180 coming from
00:32:51.000 career officers.
00:32:53.040 They clearly
00:32:53.840 concluded
00:32:54.580 that McCabe
00:32:55.780 misled them
00:32:56.940 and that he
00:32:59.160 misled them
00:32:59.920 on one of the
00:33:00.920 core issues
00:33:01.680 they were
00:33:02.060 investigating,
00:33:02.840 not a collateral
00:33:03.540 issue.
00:33:04.280 What is going
00:33:05.540 to create an issue
00:33:06.620 going forward
00:33:07.260 is whether there
00:33:07.940 will be a criminal
00:33:08.680 referral.
00:33:09.880 Michael Flynn
00:33:10.660 was indicted
00:33:11.380 for making
00:33:12.380 a false statement
00:33:13.160 to investigators.
00:33:14.980 Now,
00:33:15.280 it's true
00:33:15.820 that they
00:33:16.340 were looking
00:33:16.760 at him
00:33:17.100 for other
00:33:17.480 crimes as
00:33:18.240 well.
00:33:19.200 But there
00:33:19.960 will be
00:33:20.400 some that
00:33:20.820 will argue
00:33:21.380 why would
00:33:22.120 you indict
00:33:22.560 Michael Flynn
00:33:23.380 but a
00:33:24.240 deputy FBI
00:33:26.440 director
00:33:27.060 is just
00:33:29.000 worried about
00:33:29.520 his pension,
00:33:30.160 not prison.
00:33:31.520 Shouldn't
00:33:32.080 we all
00:33:34.260 be questioning
00:33:34.880 that?
00:33:37.260 I mean,
00:33:37.520 see,
00:33:37.720 this is the
00:33:38.440 problem.
00:33:39.920 Justice
00:33:40.380 is blind.
00:33:42.460 That's the way
00:33:43.100 it's supposed
00:33:43.460 to be.
00:33:44.100 Justice
00:33:44.440 is blind.
00:33:45.900 But I
00:33:46.240 don't think
00:33:46.540 justice
00:33:46.860 is blind.
00:33:48.760 I mean,
00:33:49.060 and we've
00:33:49.400 known that.
00:33:50.460 We've known
00:33:51.020 that because
00:33:51.620 justice wasn't
00:33:52.300 blind for
00:33:52.920 African-Americans.
00:33:54.720 Justice
00:33:55.040 wasn't blind
00:33:56.560 for O.J.
00:33:57.600 Simpson
00:33:57.860 in the
00:33:58.260 opposite way.
00:33:59.580 Justice
00:34:00.220 isn't blind
00:34:01.020 for the
00:34:01.880 political
00:34:03.600 people in
00:34:04.380 our country.
00:34:06.580 That's a
00:34:07.360 problem.
00:34:08.380 If you
00:34:08.820 went over
00:34:09.300 after Flynn
00:34:10.260 for lying,
00:34:12.800 you have
00:34:13.720 to go
00:34:14.020 after this
00:34:14.560 guy.
00:34:16.040 Even if
00:34:16.780 you don't
00:34:17.360 go after
00:34:17.800 this guy,
00:34:18.580 if I
00:34:19.300 lie to
00:34:19.760 the FBI,
00:34:21.320 are you
00:34:22.000 going to
00:34:22.820 under oath?
00:34:23.820 Do you think
00:34:24.100 they're going
00:34:24.340 to go after
00:34:24.720 me?
00:34:24.980 Of course
00:34:25.280 they will.
00:34:26.600 You do
00:34:27.200 it.
00:34:27.520 Will they
00:34:27.760 go after
00:34:28.060 you?
00:34:28.440 Of course
00:34:28.960 they will.
00:34:30.040 And they
00:34:30.540 should.
00:34:31.980 This is
00:34:32.620 kind of
00:34:32.960 the discussion
00:34:33.760 we had
00:34:34.440 with
00:34:34.960 President
00:34:35.540 Clinton.
00:34:36.000 Can you
00:34:37.500 lie under
00:34:38.360 oath?
00:34:38.980 Does it
00:34:39.360 matter?
00:34:39.780 The answer
00:34:40.260 is no.
00:34:41.760 No.
00:34:44.080 It seems
00:34:44.880 reasonable.
00:34:45.780 You started
00:34:46.220 the hour
00:34:46.780 with part
00:34:47.560 of his
00:34:48.200 actual
00:34:49.000 statement,
00:34:49.500 McCabe's
00:34:49.900 statement,
00:34:50.340 which was
00:34:50.620 this kind
00:34:50.940 of fiery
00:34:51.300 response
00:34:51.800 saying basically
00:34:52.400 the president
00:34:52.820 is coming
00:34:53.180 after me,
00:34:53.580 he's attacking
00:34:54.020 me.
00:34:54.600 But in
00:34:54.980 the statement,
00:34:55.440 if you read
00:34:55.700 the whole
00:34:55.940 thing,
00:34:56.480 he basically
00:34:57.200 admits he
00:34:57.860 did it.
00:34:58.760 I think.
00:34:59.300 Listen to
00:34:59.640 these two
00:34:59.960 parts.
00:35:00.560 During
00:35:00.740 these inquiries,
00:35:01.480 I answered
00:35:01.840 questions truthfully
00:35:02.740 and as accurately
00:35:03.340 as I could
00:35:03.880 amidst the
00:35:04.340 chaos that
00:35:05.020 surrounded me.
00:35:06.000 And when I
00:35:06.480 thought my
00:35:06.900 answers were
00:35:07.460 misunderstood,
00:35:08.360 I contacted
00:35:09.300 investigators to
00:35:10.820 correct them.
00:35:11.960 Later on,
00:35:12.480 he goes on to
00:35:12.980 say,
00:35:13.600 let's see,
00:35:15.700 when I
00:35:16.480 thought my
00:35:17.000 answers were
00:35:18.780 misunderstood.
00:35:19.560 Like,
00:35:19.800 okay,
00:35:20.220 so.
00:35:20.720 No,
00:35:21.160 that's no.
00:35:21.900 No,
00:35:22.100 that's not what
00:35:22.520 he,
00:35:22.740 but again,
00:35:23.320 he's admitting
00:35:24.060 the basis
00:35:25.080 of this,
00:35:26.260 right?
00:35:26.580 Like that's
00:35:27.020 something he
00:35:27.580 said wasn't
00:35:28.360 true.
00:35:28.760 Correct.
00:35:29.120 I thought
00:35:29.480 they were
00:35:29.780 misunderstood.
00:35:30.720 Later on,
00:35:31.140 he says,
00:35:31.640 you know,
00:35:32.940 I've always had
00:35:33.940 distinction and
00:35:34.560 integrity.
00:35:35.200 Just ask
00:35:35.580 people around
00:35:36.040 me.
00:35:36.220 To have
00:35:36.780 my career
00:35:37.220 end this
00:35:37.700 way and
00:35:38.040 to be
00:35:38.240 accused of
00:35:39.100 lacking
00:35:39.500 candor when
00:35:40.380 at worst I
00:35:41.800 was distracted
00:35:42.700 in the midst
00:35:43.620 of chaotic
00:35:44.380 events is
00:35:45.620 incredibly
00:35:46.180 disappointing and
00:35:46.840 unfair.
00:35:47.600 I'd like to
00:35:47.940 see what
00:35:48.360 those distractions
00:35:49.980 were or what
00:35:51.740 caused,
00:35:52.320 what those
00:35:52.680 distractions caused
00:35:53.820 him to say.
00:35:54.500 Exactly.
00:35:55.200 So we're going to
00:35:55.940 find that out.
00:35:56.520 We don't have the
00:35:57.040 report yet,
00:35:57.960 right?
00:35:58.280 We only have the
00:35:59.260 reporting on the
00:35:59.900 report, which is
00:36:00.740 never the best
00:36:01.240 way to do these
00:36:01.740 things.
00:36:02.000 But beyond
00:36:03.640 that, if this
00:36:05.880 is true,
00:36:06.620 let's say there
00:36:07.340 are chaotic
00:36:07.800 events and you
00:36:08.560 make a
00:36:08.860 misstatement,
00:36:09.600 you still get
00:36:10.040 in trouble for
00:36:10.720 that when you're
00:36:11.500 not telling the
00:36:12.000 truth, particularly
00:36:13.100 if they, again,
00:36:14.360 you only get in
00:36:15.000 trouble if you
00:36:15.480 did something
00:36:15.860 intentionally wrong.
00:36:17.820 The other part
00:36:18.460 of this is it's a
00:36:19.160 good argument as
00:36:19.940 to why you
00:36:20.740 shouldn't, if
00:36:21.560 you're Donald
00:36:21.880 Trump, go in
00:36:22.580 front of Mueller
00:36:23.040 and actually meet
00:36:24.040 with him.
00:36:24.340 because you,
00:36:26.200 even if, even
00:36:27.400 if there is
00:36:28.280 something that
00:36:29.500 you just
00:36:29.940 misstate or
00:36:30.960 you get the
00:36:31.380 facts wrong,
00:36:32.240 they'll hold
00:36:32.600 him to it.
00:36:33.060 They will hold
00:36:33.500 him to it.
00:36:34.140 Absolutely.
00:36:34.880 I mean, I, I,
00:36:36.440 because I'm an
00:36:36.980 American citizen
00:36:37.580 and want the
00:36:38.140 truth would be
00:36:39.640 fine with him
00:36:40.780 going to
00:36:41.480 Mueller.
00:36:42.020 If I'm a, if
00:36:43.020 I'm in the
00:36:43.600 president's
00:36:44.020 administration, I'm
00:36:44.860 telling him don't
00:36:45.640 because I'm fine
00:36:47.480 with him going in
00:36:48.540 front of Mueller
00:36:49.760 if, if he can
00:36:51.640 control himself and
00:36:53.680 there's nothing,
00:36:54.480 you know, that
00:36:54.840 he did wrong.
00:36:55.500 I mean, if he
00:36:55.880 did something
00:36:56.260 wrong, I also
00:36:56.860 want him in
00:36:57.280 front of Mueller.
00:36:57.880 But, um, the
00:36:59.300 problem with
00:36:59.920 Trump is he
00:37:01.000 just kind of
00:37:02.160 elaborates and
00:37:04.420 not necessarily
00:37:05.920 all of that is,
00:37:07.020 is true and
00:37:08.080 they will hold
00:37:09.040 him to every
00:37:09.900 single word.
00:37:10.800 They won't hold
00:37:11.540 this guy, even
00:37:12.680 though this was
00:37:13.700 independent, the,
00:37:16.200 the OPR, this
00:37:17.800 is unprecedented for
00:37:19.620 them to recommend
00:37:20.400 a termination
00:37:21.200 unprecedented.
00:37:22.000 Back.
00:37:23.080 Mercury.
00:37:23.680 Love.
00:37:30.800 Courage.
00:37:32.520 Truth.
00:37:34.240 Glenn Beck.
00:37:35.520 Okay, hear me
00:37:36.140 out on this just
00:37:36.780 for a second.
00:37:38.020 What do you
00:37:38.380 think?
00:37:39.700 Constitutional
00:37:40.140 amendment that
00:37:41.620 has an inclusion
00:37:42.880 writer.
00:37:45.660 So, you know,
00:37:46.580 we're going to get
00:37:47.020 together, we're going
00:37:47.620 to do anything.
00:37:48.780 We just got to
00:37:49.540 check the writer,
00:37:50.260 formerly known as
00:37:51.000 the Constitution,
00:37:51.460 Constitution, and
00:37:52.360 who do we need
00:37:54.140 to include?
00:37:55.600 There is a really
00:37:56.540 ugly, hypocritical
00:37:57.500 side to the
00:37:58.260 prolonged cultural
00:37:59.500 moment that America
00:38:00.940 is having regarding
00:38:01.860 issues of gender
00:38:03.580 and race, and that
00:38:05.060 is a growing
00:38:05.920 hostility to a
00:38:07.000 specific group of
00:38:08.280 people, even as it
00:38:10.160 includes every other
00:38:11.580 group, you know,
00:38:14.480 and preaches to them
00:38:15.900 and preaches to them
00:38:15.920 that you have to
00:38:17.280 include every other
00:38:18.260 group.
00:38:18.800 It's becoming so
00:38:20.040 absurd that even a
00:38:21.440 nerdy conference for
00:38:23.360 history professors at
00:38:24.720 Stanford is being, you
00:38:26.460 know, billed as too
00:38:27.640 white and too male.
00:38:29.260 Last week, a female
00:38:30.700 history professor at
00:38:31.760 Harvard University
00:38:32.660 tweeted some
00:38:33.960 screenshots of
00:38:35.220 several of the
00:38:35.800 speakers at this
00:38:36.780 history conference and
00:38:38.100 wrote, quote,
00:38:38.840 all-male history
00:38:40.120 conference.
00:38:40.900 This goes for the
00:38:42.060 Guinness Book of the
00:38:43.160 Century.
00:38:44.380 I bet not.
00:38:45.060 I bet there's probably
00:38:45.960 more white people that
00:38:47.040 have attended another
00:38:47.780 conference.
00:38:48.800 I'm not sure.
00:38:50.060 A team of 30 white
00:38:51.180 male historians will
00:38:52.280 discuss applied history
00:38:53.880 at Stanford.
00:38:55.120 What a shame.
00:38:57.800 Now, I don't think she
00:38:59.480 means that it's a shame
00:39:00.940 that they're getting
00:39:01.400 together to discuss
00:39:02.460 history or how to
00:39:03.660 apply it.
00:39:04.420 I think she thinks
00:39:05.640 it's a shame because
00:39:06.620 this group of 30 are
00:39:07.880 all white men.
00:39:09.900 She repeated the
00:39:10.580 sentiment over several
00:39:11.740 days, calling the
00:39:12.640 gathering shameful as
00:39:14.160 if it was a clan
00:39:15.220 history conference.
00:39:17.000 Other female professor
00:39:18.520 critics agreed until
00:39:19.820 finally the brow
00:39:20.820 beating affected the
00:39:21.960 conference director,
00:39:23.400 Niall Ferguson, who
00:39:24.460 is a great historian.
00:39:27.580 He apologized, saying,
00:39:30.100 we did discuss
00:39:31.700 diversity ahead of time
00:39:33.500 and have invited
00:39:34.460 several women, but
00:39:35.520 they were all unable
00:39:36.320 to attend.
00:39:37.900 But, even that being
00:39:39.480 said, we, quote,
00:39:40.560 must redouble our
00:39:41.600 efforts to represent
00:39:43.040 diverse viewpoints in
00:39:44.720 future conferences,
00:39:46.020 end quote.
00:39:47.280 Yeah, you want a
00:39:47.980 diverse look at
00:39:49.400 history?
00:39:50.160 Invite me.
00:39:53.180 Yeah, because, see,
00:39:54.320 even though I am a
00:39:55.120 white man, I bet I
00:39:56.900 disagree with a lot of
00:39:58.940 the other white men
00:40:00.040 that are in that
00:40:01.400 conference.
00:40:02.060 Like, we don't have
00:40:04.340 diverse viewpoints?
00:40:06.160 Is it all about the
00:40:07.620 color of our skin and
00:40:08.880 what we have in our
00:40:09.700 pants?
00:40:10.320 Because I think I
00:40:11.380 remember something
00:40:12.160 like Martin Luther King
00:40:14.080 saying something
00:40:14.720 different, that we
00:40:16.060 were all supposed to
00:40:17.300 remember and
00:40:19.280 celebrate.
00:40:20.500 And I do.
00:40:22.360 Does anybody else
00:40:23.600 anymore?
00:40:23.900 The current cultural
00:40:28.340 climate.
00:40:29.980 Ferguson had to say
00:40:31.660 something for self
00:40:32.780 preservation purposes.
00:40:34.500 Are we really all
00:40:36.140 this bored and this
00:40:38.140 self-absorbed that we
00:40:39.700 now have to find white
00:40:40.860 privilege, villainy in
00:40:42.340 every nook and cranny
00:40:43.700 of culture?
00:40:44.760 Why?
00:40:45.640 Why?
00:40:46.240 Why are the dark
00:40:50.060 sides of Oreos on
00:40:51.780 the outside?
00:40:53.280 And there's a white
00:40:54.560 filling that, what,
00:40:55.800 holds it together?
00:40:57.840 Well, you're telling
00:40:58.540 me that two dark
00:41:00.000 cookies couldn't hold
00:41:01.400 themselves together?
00:41:02.840 Well, no, in this
00:41:03.620 case, we're talking a
00:41:04.920 cookie.
00:41:05.680 No!
00:41:08.280 Progressives have
00:41:09.180 done a masterful job
00:41:10.880 of turning diversity
00:41:11.920 into their highest
00:41:13.020 virtue.
00:41:13.560 And now that
00:41:15.000 they've achieved
00:41:15.560 that, they're just
00:41:16.480 showing you that,
00:41:17.800 you know, you will
00:41:18.940 be diverse or we'll
00:41:21.360 eliminate those voices
00:41:22.840 that aren't diverse
00:41:24.160 enough.
00:41:25.040 Oh, okay.
00:41:26.300 All right.
00:41:30.780 Americans all believe
00:41:32.920 different things.
00:41:34.700 And we've been told
00:41:38.120 we should celebrate
00:41:39.040 all those different
00:41:40.080 things that we
00:41:40.820 believe.
00:41:41.760 Now we're being told
00:41:42.920 only celebrate those
00:41:44.000 things that the
00:41:45.380 group leaders tell
00:41:46.560 you we can
00:41:47.820 celebrate.
00:41:50.180 The most important
00:41:51.340 thing, and I
00:41:51.800 remember, boy, I
00:41:53.020 remember hearing
00:41:53.520 people saying this
00:41:54.180 when I was a kid.
00:41:55.120 Instead of focusing
00:41:56.340 on all of the
00:41:57.420 things that divide
00:41:58.560 us, why not focus
00:42:00.040 on a few of the
00:42:00.740 things that unite
00:42:01.900 us?
00:42:04.300 I think that there
00:42:05.920 is still a large
00:42:07.820 section, maybe 80%
00:42:09.680 of this country,
00:42:10.780 left and right,
00:42:11.780 that really are
00:42:13.460 kind of spooked by
00:42:14.280 this diversity
00:42:15.140 policing.
00:42:15.800 They're really
00:42:16.560 kind of spooked by
00:42:17.660 we want diverse
00:42:19.400 voices, except for
00:42:20.820 those, get them
00:42:21.600 off campus.
00:42:22.420 And if they won't
00:42:23.560 leave, well, throw a
00:42:25.500 Molotov cocktail
00:42:26.440 through a J.
00:42:27.740 crew window, I
00:42:29.400 think we're all
00:42:29.980 kind of freaked
00:42:30.460 out by that.
00:42:33.400 Diversity policing
00:42:34.380 by citizen cops on
00:42:36.420 social media is a
00:42:37.840 danger to a free
00:42:38.860 society.
00:42:40.380 Of all the people
00:42:41.560 that you would,
00:42:42.560 you would think
00:42:44.280 that would get
00:42:44.820 this, you would
00:42:45.420 think that it
00:42:46.800 would be a group
00:42:47.420 of really smart
00:42:49.120 history professors.
00:42:51.220 No, it's not.
00:42:54.980 It's not.
00:42:55.680 Wow.
00:42:56.420 It's Monday, March
00:42:57.500 19th.
00:42:58.840 You're listening to
00:42:59.660 the Glenn Beck
00:43:00.240 program.
00:43:01.760 Wanted to get one
00:43:03.040 of my favorite
00:43:03.740 self-made historians,
00:43:06.400 Brad Belzer, on the
00:43:07.340 phone.
00:43:08.280 Talk about this and
00:43:09.100 his new book, The
00:43:10.360 Escape Artist, which
00:43:11.580 Brad, I have to tell
00:43:12.340 you, I finished
00:43:12.900 reading, you know,
00:43:14.140 after your interview.
00:43:15.940 I hate having people
00:43:17.440 on and not reading
00:43:18.560 their book.
00:43:19.920 But I, it took me,
00:43:21.440 I think, two days
00:43:22.540 to read it and I
00:43:23.520 was up till three
00:43:24.160 o'clock in the
00:43:24.620 morning.
00:43:24.980 Thank you.
00:43:26.900 And it was
00:43:27.700 fantastic.
00:43:28.860 The reason why I
00:43:29.300 was up till three
00:43:29.880 is I could not, I
00:43:31.960 could not stop
00:43:32.660 reading it.
00:43:33.240 It's a great book.
00:43:35.280 I appreciate it.
00:43:36.440 I mean, you know,
00:43:36.980 you and I were
00:43:37.580 emailing afterwards
00:43:38.440 and, you know, I
00:43:40.380 said to you that the
00:43:41.460 most intimate thing
00:43:42.160 in life is being
00:43:42.920 understood and
00:43:44.400 understanding someone
00:43:45.260 else.
00:43:45.700 And you have always
00:43:46.540 just completely
00:43:47.540 gotten what I'm
00:43:48.460 doing.
00:43:48.740 And especially
00:43:49.220 with this book,
00:43:49.940 the emotion that
00:43:50.840 went behind in the
00:43:51.640 history that went
00:43:52.160 behind this, it
00:43:53.760 really did change
00:43:54.440 me.
00:43:54.700 You read it
00:43:55.080 immediately.
00:43:55.480 You wrote to me
00:43:55.960 and said, this
00:43:56.360 book, I feel like
00:43:57.000 it's changed you
00:43:57.740 and you can't go to
00:43:59.500 Dover Air Force Base
00:44:00.660 and see, you know,
00:44:02.020 some of the most
00:44:02.880 amazing heroes in
00:44:04.520 our society and
00:44:05.400 leave unchanged.
00:44:06.520 So the message
00:44:08.400 that I wrote to
00:44:09.680 you where I said
00:44:10.660 this, I think, is
00:44:11.640 almost a reinvention
00:44:13.040 fiction or a
00:44:14.240 repointing on the
00:44:17.680 compass of not
00:44:19.560 only your course
00:44:20.400 but also the
00:44:21.420 action-adventure
00:44:22.900 kind of books.
00:44:24.660 You know, the
00:44:25.440 Jason Bourne kind
00:44:26.780 of book has been
00:44:27.980 done over and over
00:44:28.740 and over again.
00:44:29.420 This is deeper and
00:44:31.600 different.
00:44:33.000 Do you understand
00:44:33.860 that?
00:44:34.260 And how would you
00:44:34.740 explain that?
00:44:36.300 Yeah, no, I do.
00:44:37.340 I very much understand
00:44:38.300 it because I've been
00:44:38.820 writing for, you know,
00:44:39.540 this is my 20th year
00:44:40.760 writing thrillers and
00:44:42.040 you and I met, you
00:44:43.000 know, right at the
00:44:43.440 beginning of that
00:44:44.000 career and usually
00:44:45.340 you write a thriller
00:44:46.140 and, you know, the
00:44:46.960 good guy has to beat
00:44:48.100 the bad guy and
00:44:49.120 that's basically what
00:44:50.120 the fight is about.
00:44:52.020 And in this book, if
00:44:54.320 I'm really being
00:44:54.940 honest, this book was
00:44:56.560 a transaction like
00:44:57.440 any other.
00:44:57.960 You know, I've done
00:44:58.340 The Secret Tunnels
00:44:59.040 below the White
00:44:59.700 House.
00:45:00.400 I've done The Hidden
00:45:01.820 Labyrinth below the
00:45:02.620 Capitol.
00:45:03.080 I thought when I got
00:45:04.100 after my USO
00:45:05.280 tour in the Middle
00:45:06.580 East, I thought that
00:45:07.620 when I went to Dover
00:45:08.460 Air Force Base, it was
00:45:09.560 just going to be like
00:45:10.300 that.
00:45:10.640 I'd walk in, they
00:45:12.060 would tell me some
00:45:12.720 cool stuff, I would
00:45:14.060 write a thriller where
00:45:14.840 the good guys beat the
00:45:15.680 bad guys.
00:45:16.760 And when I got there, I
00:45:18.640 was humbled, Glenn.
00:45:19.900 I was humbled by what
00:45:20.980 I saw, by watching
00:45:21.940 these people who take
00:45:23.100 care of our fallen
00:45:24.840 soldiers at Dover
00:45:26.240 Air Force Base.
00:45:26.980 And we all know, you
00:45:27.600 know, Dover's that
00:45:28.280 place where we're used
00:45:30.040 to those flag-covered
00:45:31.080 coffins coming off the
00:45:32.160 planes.
00:45:33.320 What I didn't realize
00:45:34.260 was that Dover has the
00:45:35.980 biggest cases.
00:45:37.420 It's where, whether it's
00:45:38.720 on 9-11, the Pentagon
00:45:41.680 flight victims went, the
00:45:43.000 space shuttle victims
00:45:43.940 when the space shuttle
00:45:44.680 goes down.
00:45:45.700 But again, what you and
00:45:46.560 I just quickly talked
00:45:47.520 about was those people
00:45:49.320 that take care of those
00:45:50.500 who no one knows about.
00:45:51.520 The spies are 007s
00:45:53.060 across the country.
00:45:54.400 We've seen in the CIA
00:45:55.560 headquarters, there's stars
00:45:56.760 right behind on the wall.
00:45:58.540 And they say these stars
00:45:59.460 represent fallen soldiers,
00:46:01.400 fallen CIA members who no
00:46:03.240 one can know their name.
00:46:04.480 And the people at Dover
00:46:05.640 know their name because
00:46:06.900 they're rebuilding them
00:46:07.740 when their bodies come
00:46:08.640 back.
00:46:09.560 And to watch them rebuild
00:46:11.400 someone's hand because a
00:46:13.620 mother says, I want to hold
00:46:14.860 my son's hand one last time.
00:46:16.880 Or to rebuild someone's jaw
00:46:18.900 for 14 hours because they
00:46:21.480 say, you know what, I want
00:46:23.320 this family to be able to
00:46:24.320 recognize and see their son
00:46:25.720 or daughter off one last
00:46:26.860 time.
00:46:27.060 That's humbling.
00:46:27.840 It's you write in the book
00:46:29.500 that that's not part of
00:46:31.140 their job.
00:46:31.740 That's things that they
00:46:32.740 decide to do that.
00:46:33.940 Each of the examiners or
00:46:35.860 the forensics guys, they
00:46:37.980 they take their time to do
00:46:40.040 it.
00:46:41.180 Yeah.
00:46:41.320 The one that I just said
00:46:42.500 to you, 14 hours rewiring
00:46:43.880 someone's jaw, I didn't make
00:46:45.420 that up.
00:46:45.920 That really happened.
00:46:46.820 And the person who did it
00:46:48.140 didn't take overtime for it.
00:46:49.940 They can 14 hours, but they
00:46:52.900 didn't take overtime because
00:46:53.840 they saw it as a mission.
00:46:54.860 And when I saw that, I knew
00:46:57.960 I wasn't writing a thriller
00:46:59.320 about good guys and bad
00:47:00.600 guys anymore.
00:47:01.140 But I was writing about some
00:47:02.320 of the most important ways we
00:47:03.700 deal with life and look out
00:47:05.100 for each other.
00:47:05.700 And the battles that my
00:47:07.400 character Zig is facing with
00:47:10.060 the loss of a child, with the
00:47:12.140 loss of, you know, trying to
00:47:13.920 reclaim what what that hole
00:47:15.760 in his chest will never be
00:47:16.800 able to be filled with was
00:47:18.580 just bigger than anything I've
00:47:19.720 written about.
00:47:20.220 And I'll tell you this.
00:47:21.360 I couldn't tell you this
00:47:22.000 before because I didn't know
00:47:23.000 it.
00:47:23.180 I was on book tour last
00:47:24.660 week and I stopped in Miami
00:47:27.380 in my hometown now.
00:47:28.800 And a woman said to me, you
00:47:30.020 know, Brad, I've read all
00:47:30.740 your books.
00:47:31.760 And she said, and they're
00:47:33.020 usually about some kind of,
00:47:34.360 you know, hard luck kid who
00:47:36.500 basically is trying to get to
00:47:37.960 that next level, the Supreme
00:47:39.160 Court, the White House,
00:47:40.260 whatever the next level is.
00:47:41.580 And then they just
00:47:42.400 eventually kind of can't get
00:47:43.840 there.
00:47:44.180 Or when they do get there,
00:47:45.360 they realize it's just not as
00:47:46.460 amazing as they thought it
00:47:47.400 was going to be.
00:47:48.780 And she said, is that right?
00:47:50.700 And my mother-in-law was in
00:47:51.820 the front row.
00:47:53.100 And my mother-in-law laughed
00:47:54.220 and said, huh.
00:47:55.520 But she knew that's my life.
00:47:57.000 And I said to the woman, I
00:47:57.900 said, that's my life.
00:47:58.920 You know, I came from, you
00:48:00.400 know, very modest
00:48:01.020 beginnings.
00:48:01.440 I was the first in my family
00:48:02.480 to go to college.
00:48:03.260 That was my life.
00:48:04.380 I said, you're absolutely
00:48:05.200 right, ma'am.
00:48:05.760 I said, but this book is not
00:48:06.960 that.
00:48:07.800 And what I realized in the
00:48:09.440 last week without even
00:48:10.640 thinking about it is what I
00:48:11.660 was writing from is a new
00:48:12.740 perspective.
00:48:13.180 It was the perspective of
00:48:14.560 being a father.
00:48:15.780 I never did that before.
00:48:17.080 And now I had Zig being this
00:48:19.280 father who's, you know,
00:48:20.300 again, trying to put to rest
00:48:21.920 all these fallen sons and
00:48:23.860 daughters.
00:48:24.560 And the result was I wrote
00:48:26.080 from my mature place from
00:48:27.600 what happened over 20 years.
00:48:29.000 I've grown somehow, some
00:48:30.360 way.
00:48:30.620 And I wish I was smart
00:48:31.560 enough to know I was doing
00:48:33.300 that.
00:48:33.540 But I think what you're
00:48:34.320 feeling is that same love
00:48:35.960 you have for your kids, that
00:48:37.700 same love I have for my
00:48:38.560 kids, that's more powerful
00:48:39.900 than any kind of, you know,
00:48:41.660 trying to achieve something
00:48:43.140 that we'll ever do.
00:48:44.180 Talking to Brad Meltzer, he
00:48:45.120 is a fantastic writer and
00:48:47.400 author of the New York Times
00:48:49.560 bestseller, The Escape
00:48:50.620 Artist, which is out now.
00:48:51.820 And it's just it's it's
00:48:52.960 fantastic.
00:48:53.480 One of the better books that
00:48:54.500 I've read in a long time.
00:48:56.080 Brad, I want to change the
00:48:57.160 subject just a little bit
00:48:59.980 and and talk to you about
00:49:02.740 have you seen have you seen
00:49:04.780 what's happening with
00:49:06.180 Facebook and the
00:49:09.240 algorithms and and and
00:49:12.660 how they are taking
00:49:14.900 information and using it.
00:49:17.000 I'm trying to find one
00:49:17.680 story here.
00:49:19.120 Oh, I've seen it.
00:49:20.220 Of course.
00:49:20.720 This is incredible.
00:49:21.780 Is that I was obsessed with
00:49:22.860 this story all weekend.
00:49:23.680 I said, I want to do I want
00:49:25.480 to go, you know, if you look
00:49:26.720 at my Twitter feed right the
00:49:27.980 day after the election, it
00:49:29.260 was like a day or two after
00:49:30.120 election.
00:49:30.480 I said the greatest story
00:49:31.520 that is not being told
00:49:33.140 right now is so obvious
00:49:34.060 now.
00:49:34.500 But I said it then was
00:49:36.820 how the Russians played
00:49:39.300 with our election and
00:49:40.260 played with us.
00:49:41.340 And again, whatever you
00:49:42.180 want to see.
00:49:42.620 And people were like, oh,
00:49:43.640 you're taking.
00:49:44.120 I'm like, I'm not taking
00:49:44.820 sides.
00:49:45.900 It's just mathematical
00:49:46.720 facts.
00:49:47.360 And over the weekend, a
00:49:48.780 story came out that
00:49:50.740 very high level, not
00:49:53.620 only Russian, but also
00:49:55.400 Republican.
00:49:56.020 And again, Democrats
00:49:57.680 were, you know, they gave
00:49:58.720 it to Democrats to
00:49:59.560 Democrats just invited it.
00:50:00.920 I mean, they didn't see
00:50:01.700 the opportunity, but
00:50:03.460 we're able to take our
00:50:05.000 Facebook data and by
00:50:07.240 answering, you know, those
00:50:08.000 little quizzes that they
00:50:08.920 say, are you a happy
00:50:10.340 person?
00:50:10.820 Are you a pessimistic
00:50:11.640 person?
00:50:12.100 Describe yourself.
00:50:13.180 They put these kind of
00:50:14.460 quizzes out on Facebook
00:50:15.780 and in figuring out these
00:50:17.880 quizzes and what people
00:50:18.920 clicked on, they could
00:50:20.280 figure out our
00:50:21.080 personalities and
00:50:22.040 therefore figure out
00:50:22.860 what we're susceptible
00:50:23.540 to, what kind of ads
00:50:24.640 we're susceptible to, what
00:50:25.560 kind of things could
00:50:26.160 convince us.
00:50:26.760 And it becomes this, you
00:50:28.780 know, and you know that
00:50:29.900 I'm not a conspiracy
00:50:30.820 theorist.
00:50:31.340 I think we confuse the
00:50:32.380 word conspiracy with
00:50:33.280 kooky and crazy.
00:50:34.900 This is something that
00:50:35.960 really happened in
00:50:36.780 America.
00:50:38.240 When you have big data
00:50:40.000 out there and
00:50:41.300 information on Facebook
00:50:42.320 out there and we're
00:50:43.120 constantly liking things
00:50:44.360 and clicking things,
00:50:45.420 eventually it gives you a
00:50:46.860 profile of who we are.
00:50:48.460 And if you can take all
00:50:49.600 those millions of
00:50:50.380 profiles of people, you
00:50:52.100 can figure out how to
00:50:53.860 influence them.
00:50:54.720 And the thing that I
00:50:56.160 think upsets all of us
00:50:57.360 is we don't like, you
00:50:58.760 know, it's like subliminal
00:50:59.480 advertising.
00:51:00.040 We don't like being
00:51:00.620 influenced without us
00:51:01.500 knowing we're being
00:51:02.200 influenced.
00:51:02.740 And that's what they did
00:51:03.360 here.
00:51:04.220 So I want to come back,
00:51:05.460 take a quick break, and
00:51:06.560 I want to talk to you
00:51:07.120 about a new algorithm
00:51:08.040 that I am really
00:51:11.080 concerned about.
00:51:12.320 It came out in
00:51:13.540 Bloomberg this weekend.
00:51:16.200 And it is something that
00:51:17.900 I have read about in, you
00:51:20.120 know, all the futurist
00:51:20.920 books.
00:51:21.400 But apparently it's here
00:51:22.560 now, and, you know, I
00:51:25.280 just think it's wildly
00:51:26.920 dangerous, and I would
00:51:28.040 love to pick your mind
00:51:29.060 because I think the
00:51:30.840 truth is stranger than
00:51:32.960 fiction, and so there's
00:51:33.800 nobody better to go to
00:51:34.860 than a fiction writer and
00:51:36.380 say, how does this one
00:51:38.880 go wrong?
00:51:39.760 Brad Meltzer in a
00:51:40.640 second.
00:51:40.860 If you've ever taken
00:51:54.700 your car in for an oil
00:51:55.700 change, and the mechanic
00:51:57.120 finds something wrong, and
00:51:58.420 you're like, what?
00:52:00.120 And you find yourself
00:52:00.960 with a repair bill that
00:52:02.280 you didn't expect?
00:52:03.440 It's happened to all of
00:52:04.620 us.
00:52:05.120 You know, there is
00:52:05.640 nothing worse than seeing
00:52:07.180 that check engine light
00:52:08.220 go on.
00:52:08.660 When you see that check
00:52:09.500 engine light, is it just
00:52:10.840 me?
00:52:11.320 You're just like, oh,
00:52:12.320 crap.
00:52:14.560 I mean, back in the
00:52:15.700 day, we used to be able
00:52:16.800 to disconnect the check
00:52:18.600 engine light, and so
00:52:19.620 then we didn't worry
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00:53:52.680 Glenn Beck Mercury.
00:54:00.020 Glenn Beck.
00:54:02.020 So here's a story I got
00:54:03.240 out of Bloomberg talking
00:54:04.080 to Brad Meltzer, the
00:54:05.180 author of The Escape
00:54:06.420 Artist.
00:54:07.140 If humans are going to
00:54:07.860 entrust big decisions on
00:54:08.960 computers, how can they
00:54:09.840 ensure that these computers
00:54:10.800 act in humanity's best
00:54:12.100 interest?
00:54:13.100 Amazingly, given the
00:54:13.800 increasing power and
00:54:14.560 persuasiveness of
00:54:15.380 algorithms, it's a question
00:54:16.800 that researchers are just
00:54:17.740 beginning to answer.
00:54:19.400 How can we make sure that
00:54:20.380 they act fairly?
00:54:21.380 To start with, we need to
00:54:22.520 define fair.
00:54:23.740 At a recent conference,
00:54:24.700 New York University,
00:54:26.020 they were asked, should a
00:54:27.500 risk profiler, for example,
00:54:29.300 treat all racial groups
00:54:30.660 equally regardless of their
00:54:32.200 other differences?
00:54:32.860 Should it acknowledge
00:54:34.120 differences but focus on
00:54:35.740 achieving similar error
00:54:37.020 rates?
00:54:37.700 Should it correct for
00:54:38.680 previous wrongs?
00:54:40.620 Do some definitions seem
00:54:42.000 good in the short term but
00:54:43.120 have negative long-term
00:54:44.480 repercussions?
00:54:45.260 What are we headed for, Brad?
00:54:49.980 I think, you know, what
00:54:51.180 we're headed for, I read
00:54:52.580 this amazing article, and
00:54:55.080 these are the things, you
00:54:56.000 know, I love talking about
00:54:57.100 them, as you know, these are
00:54:58.540 the things that years ago I
00:55:00.080 got invited by the Department
00:55:01.220 of Homeland Security to come
00:55:02.700 in and brainstorm different
00:55:03.740 ways that terrorists could
00:55:04.760 attack the United States.
00:55:06.320 And the reason that I think
00:55:07.440 they brought people like
00:55:08.480 myself in who are fiction
00:55:09.840 writers is they wanted to
00:55:11.020 figure out what's the
00:55:11.800 craziest thing you could do.
00:55:14.800 And what I was fascinated
00:55:16.660 with is I started studying
00:55:18.320 why, you know, when did they
00:55:19.260 start bringing people in like
00:55:20.320 this?
00:55:20.560 How did this happen?
00:55:21.840 And one of the things that
00:55:22.720 they told me and that I found
00:55:23.840 out is there was a conference
00:55:25.680 a few years back of futurists,
00:55:28.520 people who kind of try to
00:55:30.140 fathom what the future is
00:55:31.040 going to bring or really good
00:55:32.060 at figuring out what the
00:55:32.840 future will bring.
00:55:33.500 And the number one thing
00:55:35.400 that they said, what's the
00:55:37.000 greatest threat to the United
00:55:38.180 States right now?
00:55:39.200 And it used to be things like
00:55:40.500 nuclear war, you know,
00:55:42.640 things like that.
00:55:43.660 The greatest threat,
00:55:45.020 according to these futurists
00:55:46.040 now, is a small group of
00:55:48.920 individuals who have just an
00:55:51.320 idea that they can't shake
00:55:52.680 and they're willing to do
00:55:53.600 anything for it.
00:55:55.000 And it's what society is
00:55:56.680 facing right now is the
00:55:58.660 ability of people to a small
00:56:01.180 group, not a country, we're
00:56:02.420 not fighting Russia, we're
00:56:03.480 not fighting the Cold War
00:56:04.500 anymore, we're fighting a
00:56:05.480 tiny group of people.
00:56:06.520 This is, if you saw this
00:56:07.460 article you're talking about,
00:56:09.040 you know, it's a group of
00:56:10.020 like a small business is what
00:56:11.300 we're fighting, who are
00:56:13.040 basically able to influence
00:56:14.500 us.
00:56:14.820 And the article that I read
00:56:16.040 that really scared me is
00:56:18.160 what we lose in all of this,
00:56:21.180 the real thing that dies is
00:56:23.160 truth.
00:56:24.160 That's what disappears,
00:56:25.380 because we don't realize
00:56:27.140 anymore, we can't trust what
00:56:29.000 we see.
00:56:29.760 So how do you solve for that?
00:56:32.140 What do you do to prepare?
00:56:33.980 I have been thinking of it
00:56:35.220 all weekend.
00:56:35.980 I've been literally thinking,
00:56:37.020 you know, can Facebook take
00:56:38.540 away news?
00:56:39.920 Can you take away politics
00:56:41.500 from it?
00:56:42.060 Can you limit it to just
00:56:43.280 people posting about their
00:56:44.700 kids and dogs in the way
00:56:46.020 that, you know, we know is
00:56:47.360 fair?
00:56:48.080 And the truth is, I don't
00:56:49.460 know how.
00:56:50.020 I personally think that this
00:56:52.840 is one of those things, the
00:56:53.760 same way we regulate what the
00:56:55.880 news is on TV, the same way we
00:56:57.600 try to regulate, at least,
00:56:58.900 certain things, is Facebook
00:57:00.860 can't be the Wild West.
00:57:02.240 It has too much power.
00:57:03.880 And when you have that much
00:57:05.120 power to influence billions
00:57:07.040 of people and the way that
00:57:08.420 they think, you have a
00:57:10.760 problem.
00:57:11.540 You have a real problem.
00:57:12.620 And I think that, you know,
00:57:13.220 when you look at Mark
00:57:14.040 Zuckerberg saying, you know
00:57:15.760 what, this never happened,
00:57:16.880 and then quickly realizing, oh,
00:57:18.200 my gosh, this did happen, and
00:57:19.480 we need to take, you know,
00:57:21.380 we have to figure out what the
00:57:23.100 consequences are.
00:57:24.400 I don't know if anyone knows
00:57:25.780 what to do, but we, I would
00:57:27.520 say this to everyone listening,
00:57:29.300 is when you see something on
00:57:30.780 Facebook that's posted, it's
00:57:32.840 so easy to click a like and
00:57:35.460 say, man, I agree with that.
00:57:37.280 But check it first.
00:57:38.600 Escape artist's name of the
00:57:39.680 book, Brad Meltzer.
00:57:40.580 Thanks, Brad.
00:57:41.000 Back.
00:57:42.060 Mercury.
00:57:50.400 This is the Glenn Beck
00:57:51.820 Program.
00:57:52.160 I want to play the audio here
00:57:53.840 from D.C.
00:57:54.520 council member, Treyon White
00:57:56.100 Sr.
00:57:56.800 He is, uh, he's, uh, on the
00:58:00.140 city council, and it was
00:58:01.420 snowing, he was driving in his
00:58:03.000 car, and, uh, he decided to
00:58:04.620 post a video, driving, and
00:58:07.960 doing a video, but that's not
00:58:10.400 what's going to say.
00:58:11.000 All you need to ban
00:58:11.740 texting, but God forbid, of
00:58:13.340 course you can obviously video
00:58:14.780 and make live commentary as
00:58:15.900 a council member.
00:58:16.100 Sure.
00:58:16.840 Uh, here's what he said.
00:58:18.540 Listen.
00:58:20.100 Man, it just started snowing
00:58:21.540 out of nowhere.
00:58:22.040 This morning, man.
00:58:23.700 Y'all better pay attention to
00:58:24.800 this climate control, man.
00:58:26.720 This climate manipulation, and
00:58:28.600 D.C. keep talking about we're
00:58:29.880 a resilient city, and that's a
00:58:31.600 model based off the Rothschilds
00:58:33.160 controlling the climate to
00:58:35.260 create natural disasters they
00:58:36.480 can pay for to own the cities,
00:58:37.900 man.
00:58:38.020 Be careful.
00:58:39.980 You should be careful of that.
00:58:41.380 I mean, I would say if that's
00:58:42.400 occurring in your area.
00:58:43.940 Which?
00:58:44.300 The Jews?
00:58:45.080 The Jews controlling the
00:58:46.100 weather?
00:58:46.620 It's something to be careful
00:58:47.600 about.
00:58:48.880 Yeah.
00:58:49.320 That's just a public service
00:58:50.320 announcement from this program.
00:58:51.820 Right.
00:58:52.600 Okay.
00:58:53.000 I don't think that's true that
00:58:54.320 the Jews are trying to control
00:58:55.460 the weather to take over our
00:58:57.460 cities, but...
00:58:58.320 Well, he didn't say it was
00:58:59.060 true.
00:58:59.300 He just said you need to watch
00:59:00.200 out for it.
00:59:01.100 Okay.
00:59:01.520 You know?
00:59:02.040 So he's apologized.
00:59:03.560 He's apologized this morning,
00:59:04.720 and I want you to listen
00:59:05.460 carefully to this apology.
00:59:07.440 In response to my social media
00:59:09.600 post on Friday, as a leader, I
00:59:11.300 work hard every day to combat
00:59:12.720 racism and prejudices of all
00:59:14.520 kinds.
00:59:15.080 Don't think he wrote this.
00:59:16.460 No?
00:59:17.160 It gets to a point with me.
00:59:18.600 You might believe it.
00:59:19.500 I want to apologize to the
00:59:21.080 Jewish community and anyone
00:59:22.200 that I have offended.
00:59:23.440 The Jewish community have been
00:59:24.520 allies with me in my journey
00:59:25.800 to help people.
00:59:27.420 I did not intend to be
00:59:28.560 anti-Semitic, and I see I
00:59:30.340 should not have said that after
00:59:32.140 learning from my colleagues.
00:59:34.420 He wrote that line.
00:59:35.340 He wrote that line.
00:59:37.440 So he didn't intend to be
00:59:38.980 anti-Semitic, and he sees now
00:59:40.760 that he should not have said
00:59:42.400 that after learning from his
00:59:44.940 colleagues.
00:59:45.380 All right.
00:59:45.780 So wait.
00:59:46.880 So he's sorry he didn't mean to
00:59:49.940 go after the Jews, but he now
00:59:52.940 realizes that he shouldn't have
00:59:54.480 said that because somebody told
00:59:56.280 him that's a bad idea to say
00:59:57.740 that?
00:59:58.660 Yes.
00:59:59.260 It does appear to be the order
01:00:01.940 of events.
01:00:02.480 But do you think that means, hey,
01:00:05.140 that was stupid to say, or
01:00:07.140 that's just the dumbest thing
01:00:08.680 I've ever heard?
01:00:09.440 I mean, maybe you could argue
01:00:11.240 he didn't realize the Rothschilds
01:00:14.620 controlling the weather was an
01:00:16.300 anti-Semitic conspiracy.
01:00:17.960 Like, maybe he just is just a
01:00:19.540 crazy conspiracy theorist and is
01:00:21.100 just believing it, but not for
01:00:22.360 the anti-Semitic reasons.
01:00:23.920 He can drive.
01:00:25.560 He can drive.
01:00:26.680 And he has access to the
01:00:27.740 Internet.
01:00:28.580 Right.
01:00:29.340 OK.
01:00:29.780 Well, I mean, I wouldn't say
01:00:30.640 this was a well-researched post.
01:00:32.720 I mean, he seemingly was doing it
01:00:33.820 off the top of his head as he
01:00:34.920 was operating a motor vehicle.
01:00:35.120 Let's do it again for the
01:00:35.920 science purposes here, for
01:00:37.520 scientific reasons.
01:00:38.920 Listen to it again.
01:00:41.000 Man, it just started snowing out
01:00:42.520 of nowhere this morning.
01:00:43.720 It's snowing out of nowhere.
01:00:44.620 Y'all better pay attention to
01:00:45.680 this climate control, man.
01:00:47.580 This climate manipulation.
01:00:49.260 And D.C. keep talking about
01:00:50.480 we're a resilient city.
01:00:52.080 And that's a model based off the
01:00:53.360 Rothschilds controlling the
01:00:54.560 climate to create natural
01:00:56.700 disasters they can pay for and
01:00:58.040 own the cities, man.
01:00:58.920 Be careful.
01:00:59.400 I'm wondering, I'm wondering
01:01:02.040 where he heard that.
01:01:05.040 I don't know.
01:01:06.380 Maybe on the Internet.
01:01:07.540 Maybe on the Internet.
01:01:08.860 Is it possible that he is
01:01:10.900 somebody who follows
01:01:12.100 Louis Farrakhan?
01:01:13.080 I don't know.
01:01:14.460 It's good.
01:01:14.840 That would be a good
01:01:15.420 follow-up question.
01:01:16.200 A good follow-up question.
01:01:17.540 Where did you learn about
01:01:18.540 the Rothschilds and their
01:01:21.000 weather machine?
01:01:22.860 The interesting, you know,
01:01:24.140 he says that it starts
01:01:24.920 snowing out of nowhere as
01:01:27.380 if the snow goes from the
01:01:29.120 state of there's no snow
01:01:30.480 and then the snow begins,
01:01:31.880 which is also would
01:01:33.300 describe every other
01:01:34.180 snowstorm that's ever
01:01:35.800 occurred.
01:01:36.420 It's always not snowing
01:01:38.240 and then snowing.
01:01:39.320 That's just comes out of
01:01:40.420 nowhere.
01:01:40.880 It's always actually coming
01:01:42.420 out of the clouds.
01:01:43.140 That's how that works.
01:01:44.500 Yeah.
01:01:45.100 Yeah.
01:01:45.640 It's a strange observation.
01:01:47.100 And really, you have a long
01:01:48.360 time to prepare.
01:01:49.400 Like people in California
01:01:51.040 don't have so long because
01:01:52.940 the rest of the you're not
01:01:54.800 seeing tape of the rest of
01:01:56.180 the country getting that
01:01:57.760 storm.
01:01:58.500 No.
01:01:58.960 You get it at the very end.
01:02:01.440 It's traveled all the way
01:02:03.400 across the country.
01:02:04.840 I will say, too, this is only
01:02:06.340 a visual.
01:02:07.240 But for those of you who did
01:02:08.700 not see the video of this,
01:02:10.320 there's like four flakes
01:02:11.600 falling from the sky.
01:02:12.420 It is not snowing a lot.
01:02:13.980 This is the worst climate
01:02:15.340 control effort of all time.
01:02:17.340 The Jews are losing their
01:02:18.480 game.
01:02:19.260 They have they have
01:02:20.280 apparently are not good at
01:02:21.580 this anymore.
01:02:22.160 They're not good at that.
01:02:23.640 He goes on, by the way, to
01:02:24.840 say, I have spoken to
01:02:26.760 leaders and my friends
01:02:28.360 at Jews United for
01:02:30.000 Justice or
01:02:30.760 and they are
01:02:33.800 helping me to
01:02:34.920 understand the history
01:02:36.420 of comments made
01:02:37.380 against Jews.
01:02:38.320 And I am committed
01:02:38.940 to figuring out ways
01:02:40.940 to continue to be
01:02:42.000 allies with them
01:02:43.100 and others.
01:02:45.720 So there you go.
01:02:46.780 Well, I think he's
01:02:47.640 learned his lesson.
01:02:49.480 Let me ask you this.
01:02:51.660 Aaron Hernandez.
01:02:52.520 They're now saying he was
01:02:53.840 gay and that he killed
01:02:55.960 this guy in 2013
01:02:58.780 because he knew
01:03:02.540 that Hernandez was gay.
01:03:05.000 I've heard this rumor
01:03:06.020 before.
01:03:06.420 Aaron Hernandez, of course,
01:03:07.180 New England Patriots
01:03:08.340 tight end, was
01:03:09.660 convicted of murder,
01:03:11.400 also acquitted of
01:03:12.660 another double murder,
01:03:14.200 I believe it was.
01:03:14.960 I'm getting all of his
01:03:16.020 murders confused.
01:03:18.740 But he did have a he did
01:03:20.160 wound up killing himself
01:03:21.400 fairly recently.
01:03:24.300 But they're now saying
01:03:25.220 that it's it's it's a
01:03:26.420 it's a gay issue.
01:03:28.520 He was closeted and did
01:03:29.720 not and was afraid he
01:03:31.480 would.
01:03:31.820 He was angry about it.
01:03:33.520 He was angry about it.
01:03:34.500 Hmm.
01:03:35.260 OK.
01:03:35.640 Is there any evidence to
01:03:36.540 support this?
01:03:38.460 Theory?
01:03:39.360 Well, his his defense
01:03:41.120 team says.
01:03:42.240 It was it was it was
01:03:46.260 clear that this man
01:03:48.220 was gay.
01:03:50.080 Now, is it OK?
01:03:51.500 I'm so when you have
01:03:53.380 evidence like that, it
01:03:54.780 was clear.
01:03:55.400 Yeah.
01:03:55.660 OK.
01:03:56.340 Now, would it make a
01:03:57.460 difference in his
01:03:58.600 sentencing?
01:03:59.380 Is that you do?
01:03:59.860 That's what I wanted to
01:04:00.880 ask to be.
01:04:01.960 I thought we would.
01:04:02.800 I would be nice.
01:04:03.760 I couldn't get Kevin
01:04:04.620 Spacey on the phone.
01:04:06.580 But the last time I heard
01:04:08.520 a defense like this was
01:04:10.080 for Kevin Spacey, you
01:04:12.000 can't get me for me, too,
01:04:13.180 because I'm gay.
01:04:13.920 Yeah.
01:04:14.340 That was essentially his
01:04:15.280 answer.
01:04:16.060 Hey, I only did this
01:04:16.920 because I hey, I'm gay.
01:04:19.060 That was the squirrel
01:04:20.320 of essentially his
01:04:21.560 statement.
01:04:22.060 Yeah.
01:04:22.300 Look at this instead of
01:04:23.460 the first thing.
01:04:23.960 And by the way, the media
01:04:24.880 went along with that
01:04:25.840 initially.
01:04:26.520 Many of the initial
01:04:27.360 stories was Kevin Spacey
01:04:28.520 comes out as gay, which
01:04:29.380 is exactly what he was
01:04:30.020 trying to do instead of
01:04:31.340 it being about him
01:04:32.180 potentially assaulting
01:04:33.460 all of these people
01:04:34.120 allegedly and him
01:04:35.860 losing his giant job
01:04:37.500 and really all of his
01:04:38.840 jobs.
01:04:39.120 not only House of Cards,
01:04:41.400 but also the
01:04:42.600 richest man in the world
01:04:44.760 or what was that movie
01:04:45.620 that Christopher Plummer
01:04:46.860 wound up taking his
01:04:47.600 role from.
01:04:48.420 And obviously, he's just
01:04:49.460 basically out of work
01:04:50.980 now.
01:04:51.600 You think this would work
01:04:52.700 for Andrew McCabe?
01:04:54.340 If he just came out
01:04:55.500 that's smart.
01:04:56.780 I'm gay.
01:04:57.960 He fired me because I'm
01:04:59.160 gay.
01:04:59.700 Yeah.
01:05:00.240 That's a very smart
01:05:01.420 approach.
01:05:02.080 I don't know.
01:05:02.440 It doesn't seem to work.
01:05:03.760 I feel like that worked
01:05:04.440 better at one point.
01:05:05.680 Do you think he should?
01:05:07.420 I don't think it should
01:05:08.100 have, but maybe it did.
01:05:10.040 It didn't work for
01:05:10.700 Kevin Spacey.
01:05:11.840 I don't know.
01:05:12.780 Murder somebody.
01:05:14.360 I'm gay.
01:05:15.940 Yeah, but you murdered
01:05:17.000 somebody.
01:05:17.720 Yeah.
01:05:17.880 I don't think that's a
01:05:18.800 trait of gayness.
01:05:20.540 Here's an interesting
01:05:21.400 set of standards we can
01:05:22.540 all discuss today,
01:05:23.640 which is maybe if you're
01:05:25.200 black and if you're gay
01:05:27.060 and if you're Jewish
01:05:28.520 and if you're white,
01:05:29.740 you should be treated
01:05:30.420 the same.
01:05:31.600 Maybe if you commit a
01:05:32.400 crime, you should go to
01:05:33.220 prison for the same
01:05:34.060 amount of time.
01:05:34.540 No, no, no, no, no.
01:05:35.620 Maybe if you're a, you
01:05:37.060 know, a politically
01:05:38.300 connected Democrat, you
01:05:39.560 should still get fired if
01:05:40.580 you break the rules.
01:05:41.580 No, maybe the media
01:05:43.580 shouldn't just immediately
01:05:44.680 side with you because
01:05:45.780 you're from a protected
01:05:46.800 group of some sort.
01:05:47.880 No.
01:05:48.520 OK, here's the thing.
01:05:49.860 Again, I go back to that
01:05:51.020 Bloomberg article.
01:05:51.980 By the way, Jim Caviezel is
01:05:53.640 going to be with us in
01:05:54.380 studio here in about 20
01:05:55.380 minutes.
01:05:58.360 The algorithm that they
01:06:00.300 are now designing, we're
01:06:02.400 only beginning to
01:06:03.140 understand, for example,
01:06:04.060 how facial recognition
01:06:05.300 technology tends to
01:06:06.560 misidentify minorities.
01:06:08.880 Real problem if police are
01:06:09.980 using it to search for
01:06:10.840 suspects.
01:06:11.820 The standard procedure is
01:06:12.980 set algorithms loose on
01:06:14.900 people without checking for
01:06:16.000 flaws and almost with little
01:06:17.520 or no mechanism for appeal.
01:06:19.740 So how do we get these
01:06:21.220 machines to act fairly?
01:06:22.980 Well, we have to define
01:06:24.060 fair.
01:06:25.320 Should a risk profiler, for
01:06:26.800 example, treat all racial
01:06:28.100 groups equally regardless of
01:06:29.840 their other differences?
01:06:30.680 Well, I would say yes.
01:06:34.660 Now, if it's going to
01:06:35.700 misidentify people because
01:06:37.360 it's misreading features,
01:06:38.900 then that's a problem.
01:06:40.920 But when it comes to, hey,
01:06:44.300 who's the best shot at
01:06:45.360 killing this person?
01:06:46.260 I think as long as we're
01:06:48.160 putting facts in, I don't
01:06:50.060 really care what color they
01:06:51.040 are.
01:06:51.560 White, black, yellow, it
01:06:52.740 doesn't matter to me.
01:06:54.820 Should it acknowledge
01:06:55.360 differences but focus on
01:06:56.900 achieving similar error rates?
01:06:59.180 Should it correct for
01:07:00.540 previous wrongs?
01:07:02.300 Oh, that would be good.
01:07:03.880 That's going to be a fun
01:07:04.660 one.
01:07:05.200 Yeah.
01:07:05.660 Correcting for previous
01:07:06.880 wrongs.
01:07:07.480 That's a wonderful pathway.
01:07:09.480 Do some definitions seem
01:07:11.660 good in the short term but
01:07:13.580 have negative longer
01:07:15.780 repercussions?
01:07:17.580 The right balance seems to
01:07:19.720 be somewhere in the middle.
01:07:21.820 The latest paper finds that
01:07:24.040 if members of a
01:07:25.220 disadvantaged group are
01:07:26.500 given loans at rates higher
01:07:28.280 than in the maximum
01:07:29.580 profit scenario but lower
01:07:31.580 than the forced equality
01:07:33.120 scenario, they broadly
01:07:34.640 improve their credit scores.
01:07:36.300 This comes at short-term
01:07:38.100 cost to the lender but is
01:07:41.920 likely beneficial in the
01:07:43.160 longer term as society as a
01:07:44.720 whole becomes better off.
01:07:46.680 Yeah, one of the things
01:07:47.120 they found was that some
01:07:49.820 groups gave a lot of loans
01:07:52.360 to underprivileged minority
01:07:54.640 groups or whatever to try to
01:07:56.480 be fair and that fairness
01:07:59.140 led them to getting loans
01:08:00.660 they should not have had
01:08:01.580 which also led them to
01:08:03.200 defaulting on loans that
01:08:04.460 they should not have had
01:08:05.280 which wound up hurting them
01:08:06.820 in the long term because
01:08:07.700 they went bankrupt or ruin
01:08:09.140 their credit because they
01:08:10.260 had loans they shouldn't
01:08:11.840 have had.
01:08:12.280 Yes, but that happening to
01:08:15.020 a few people, that's okay.
01:08:18.220 We can have the algorithm
01:08:19.440 spit out.
01:08:20.200 The algorithm will mean
01:08:21.020 nothing, mean nothing.
01:08:22.800 If an algorithm spits out
01:08:24.700 something that is
01:08:25.380 politically correct instead of
01:08:27.580 this is what's most likely to
01:08:29.640 happen, then it's of no use.
01:08:32.920 It's of no use.
01:08:34.980 It's just a social just...
01:08:37.280 Just a social justice tool.
01:08:41.540 Oh my, I never thought of it
01:08:44.180 that way.
01:08:46.820 Criminal risk scores can turn
01:08:49.020 people into criminals.
01:08:50.680 And Facebook's news feed,
01:08:52.760 sure, they keep people engaged,
01:08:54.640 but they also promote outrage
01:08:56.340 and even catalyze violence.
01:09:00.800 What?
01:09:02.340 No, look, here's the thing.
01:09:04.280 Okay, I think we all really,
01:09:05.560 I mean, I hate to, you know,
01:09:07.160 ask everybody to put that on
01:09:08.180 their big pants here for a
01:09:09.280 second, but Facebook isn't
01:09:10.900 doing any of this.
01:09:12.880 We are.
01:09:14.180 We are.
01:09:15.600 Okay, Facebook is playing
01:09:16.980 off us, but you're smart
01:09:18.500 enough to figure this out,
01:09:19.860 that there's an algorithm
01:09:21.400 that gives you what you want
01:09:23.320 and what you like.
01:09:24.880 See the button that says
01:09:26.120 like?
01:09:27.900 That means if you're a
01:09:29.520 capitalist, I'm going to give
01:09:30.820 you more of what you like,
01:09:33.380 less of what you don't like.
01:09:37.840 That's capitalism.
01:09:38.980 That's the way this is working.
01:09:41.060 Now, if we were all like,
01:09:42.660 you know,
01:09:44.380 well, I was to say normal
01:09:45.720 human beings, but I don't
01:09:46.640 think normal human beings are
01:09:47.760 what I thought normal human
01:09:48.880 beings were.
01:09:49.960 If we were, if we were at all
01:09:51.840 responsible,
01:09:52.720 we would do our own homework
01:09:55.720 and not just look at the
01:09:57.200 headline and read the first
01:09:59.020 paragraph and then repost it
01:10:00.860 because it, it reconfirmed our
01:10:02.840 worldview.
01:10:03.420 Yeah, it's, it's interesting.
01:10:04.900 A lot of conservatives I've
01:10:06.580 heard with, you know, that
01:10:07.980 are critical of Facebook and,
01:10:09.620 and other social media
01:10:11.300 accounts on our suppliers,
01:10:13.680 platforms for this saying
01:10:16.540 like, you know, Hey, they
01:10:17.460 need to fix their things so
01:10:18.940 that X, Y, and Z doesn't
01:10:20.140 happen.
01:10:20.600 But it's really the same
01:10:21.960 argument that the left
01:10:23.340 brings up on Hardee's, right?
01:10:25.260 Like Hardee's is providing a
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01:11:58.440 Glenn Beck, Mercury.
01:12:07.640 Glenn Beck.
01:12:12.120 A friend of mine, Jim
01:12:13.440 Caviezel, is in with us in
01:12:15.340 just a few seconds.
01:12:16.220 He's in the green room now
01:12:17.180 getting ready to come on in.
01:12:20.120 He'll be joining us at the
01:12:20.900 top of the hour.
01:12:21.540 Jim Caviezel, of course,
01:12:22.500 played Jesus in The Passion
01:12:24.240 of the Christ.
01:12:24.780 I don't think he has.
01:12:27.020 Have you seen him deliver a
01:12:30.020 piece of acting that was
01:12:31.440 just, eh?
01:12:32.960 I mean, he's always good in
01:12:34.300 everything.
01:12:34.600 He is always great in
01:12:36.800 everything.
01:12:37.540 He is just, I think, one of
01:12:39.860 the best actors of our day.
01:12:41.660 But because he played Jesus,
01:12:43.560 he's paid a heavy price for
01:12:44.900 it.
01:12:46.120 So he's decided to branch out
01:12:48.020 a little bit this time.
01:12:49.240 He's now playing Luke,
01:12:50.920 the Apostle of Christ.
01:12:54.000 This movie is coming out.
01:12:55.200 Paul, the Apostle of Christ,
01:12:56.940 and Jim Caviezel plays Luke,
01:12:59.240 risking his life to visit
01:13:00.580 Paul, who's held captive
01:13:02.560 in the Roman prison.
01:13:05.020 And he'll be talking about
01:13:06.240 that and also his life.
01:13:08.900 And he's a fascinating guy.
01:13:10.900 Really fascinating guy.
01:13:11.860 We went to school together.
01:13:15.740 And he's just such a good,
01:13:20.620 decent man.
01:13:21.160 He's everything.
01:13:22.440 You know, he's one of those
01:13:23.320 people that you meet and
01:13:25.160 you're like, I wonder what
01:13:25.820 he's like.
01:13:27.200 Exactly the way you think he
01:13:28.760 is.
01:13:29.700 Just really quiet and gentle
01:13:31.980 and peaceful and kind.
01:13:34.180 And he's a really nice guy.
01:13:36.240 So we'll catch up with him
01:13:37.620 here in just a few minutes.
01:13:39.040 You know, Passion of the
01:13:39.660 Christ only made $611 million
01:13:41.500 worldwide in 2004.
01:13:43.980 But that's it.
01:13:44.900 Was that 2004?
01:13:47.440 Yes, 2004.
01:13:49.280 Now, that should not be
01:13:50.020 confused with the movie
01:13:51.060 Passion, released in 2013,
01:13:54.180 starring Rachel McAdams,
01:13:55.260 directed by Brian De Palma,
01:13:56.620 that made $92,181.
01:13:59.080 Ah, okay.
01:13:59.820 A little bit, I guess,
01:14:00.740 of the Christ was important.
01:14:01.920 I guess, yes, it was.
01:14:03.900 It was an important part of
01:14:04.660 that.
01:14:04.780 May not have been a church
01:14:05.560 film.
01:14:06.300 May not have been a church
01:14:07.500 film.
01:14:07.780 Yeah, maybe not.
01:14:08.700 Yeah.
01:14:08.860 But this was, I mean, you
01:14:10.520 know, this is Mel Gibson.
01:14:11.640 This is the first really big
01:14:13.220 film since, you know,
01:14:17.100 probably Cecil B.
01:14:18.300 DeMille in that genre that
01:14:20.460 was really done right.
01:14:22.700 And look how far this, the
01:14:25.000 faith films have come now.
01:14:26.960 The third highest grossing
01:14:28.700 film this weekend is a faith
01:14:30.860 film.
01:14:31.560 I can only imagine.
01:14:32.920 And it's really, really good.
01:14:34.720 So Jim Caviezel joins us here
01:14:36.660 in just a few minutes.
01:14:37.760 Glenn Beck, Mercury.
01:14:52.420 Love, courage, truth.
01:14:57.060 Glenn Beck.
01:14:58.760 Well, it won't surprise you to
01:14:59.680 hear that Vladimir Putin has been
01:15:00.960 reelect president.
01:15:02.340 You know, he only barred the
01:15:03.780 opponent who posed a threat from
01:15:05.540 running in the election.
01:15:06.440 It also shouldn't surprise you
01:15:07.820 that Putin won by a nearly
01:15:09.220 impossible margin.
01:15:10.680 I think he won by 77 percent.
01:15:14.420 Ballot stuffing and forced
01:15:15.700 voting on Election Day stand as,
01:15:17.540 you know, almost like a cartoon
01:15:18.700 of the old KGB in Russia.
01:15:21.680 Under mysterious circumstances,
01:15:23.460 Russian critics of Putin have been
01:15:25.020 poisoned and kidnapped and
01:15:26.620 murdered or tortured.
01:15:28.640 Hey, this one's missing.
01:15:29.740 We just saw last week in the UK when
01:15:32.120 Russian ex-spy and his daughter were
01:15:34.000 poisoned by a Soviet-era nerve agent.
01:15:37.520 Putin's reelection represents the
01:15:40.280 latest in a history of corruption that
01:15:42.340 can only metastasize and darken in
01:15:45.760 Russia.
01:15:46.840 Putin doesn't wince as he violates
01:15:48.940 freedoms and democracy.
01:15:50.600 He takes, he takes, and he forces.
01:15:53.220 The rules don't apply to Vladimir Putin.
01:15:56.580 I don't think I need to tell you that
01:15:58.000 he's dangerous.
01:15:59.200 Some people don't think he is.
01:16:01.640 This is a man without honor whose
01:16:03.520 word is worthless as his his reign.
01:16:07.880 But unfortunately, his reign is
01:16:10.080 endless and a man like this cannot be
01:16:13.060 trusted.
01:16:14.100 His bloodthirst continues.
01:16:16.180 He's going to be around now until
01:16:17.900 2024 and then he'll, quote, be forced
01:16:21.640 to step down.
01:16:23.200 Although there's plenty of time to
01:16:26.020 change the term limit rules.
01:16:28.000 Uh, I don't know if you caught this, but
01:16:30.320 that's exactly what they did in China.
01:16:35.420 It's Monday, March 19th.
01:16:37.720 You're listening to the Glenn Beck
01:16:39.400 program.
01:16:41.980 Jim Caviezel is in studio with us.
01:16:46.460 A good man and, uh, and a friend.
01:16:49.760 We grew up kind of together.
01:16:51.180 I mean, we went to the same, uh,
01:16:53.560 elementary school and you were what?
01:16:55.380 Two years behind me, Jim.
01:16:57.060 I was, I was in third grade when you
01:16:59.220 were in eighth grade.
01:17:00.100 Oh, okay.
01:17:00.740 But I saw you first, second and third
01:17:02.460 grade.
01:17:04.080 And you remember it.
01:17:05.260 I remember you in the wide legged
01:17:07.020 corduroy pants.
01:17:08.980 Yep.
01:17:09.380 That was me.
01:17:10.040 Robert, was it Robert, Robert, Robert
01:17:11.520 Conine, uh, Rose Kranz, um, Peter
01:17:15.620 Janicki.
01:17:16.440 Yeah.
01:17:16.820 Oh my gosh.
01:17:17.400 And we're, and we rode the bus, uh,
01:17:19.960 school bus together.
01:17:20.920 I remember you, I remember you jumping
01:17:23.300 up and down, uh, up on, uh, Peter
01:17:26.540 Janicki's shoulders.
01:17:27.680 I remember, uh, um, sister Agnes
01:17:31.600 Joseph coming to our class and said,
01:17:33.880 she just saw you debate the entire
01:17:36.260 class.
01:17:37.320 Michael Rosenkrantz told me that,
01:17:39.220 that, that, that, that boy is a
01:17:41.980 genius.
01:17:42.740 And she was saying, well, none of
01:17:43.860 those stories are true.
01:17:45.300 Janicki was pretty, pretty genius
01:17:46.560 too.
01:17:46.900 Yeah.
01:17:47.060 None of those stories are true.
01:17:48.440 But, uh, so how are you?
01:17:50.560 I'm good.
01:17:51.320 Yeah.
01:17:51.640 Now you're in a, uh, new film, uh,
01:17:54.320 called, uh, Paul Apostle of Christ.
01:17:56.620 I haven't seen it yet.
01:17:57.400 It comes out.
01:17:57.880 When does it come out?
01:17:59.320 Um, March 23rd.
01:18:01.060 Okay.
01:18:02.200 You, last time I saw you, you had,
01:18:05.300 um, you were still reeling from,
01:18:08.420 you know, uh, the temptation, not
01:18:11.680 temptation of Christ, but, uh, the
01:18:13.340 passion of Christ.
01:18:15.060 Uh, and you were, you were still
01:18:16.820 reeling from that.
01:18:17.980 And you, I think you are one of the
01:18:22.140 bravest men I think I've ever met.
01:18:24.740 One of the most loyal men to God
01:18:27.000 that I have ever met.
01:18:29.120 Uh, and, uh, and I think, um,
01:18:36.880 wrongfully persecuted for what you've,
01:18:39.820 what you've done, the standards that
01:18:41.340 you have taken.
01:18:42.140 You've been very careful and very
01:18:43.900 true.
01:18:44.620 When you, when you were in school,
01:18:46.680 when we were there together, uh, you
01:18:49.920 made a promise to God.
01:18:52.300 Can you talk about that?
01:18:53.580 I was given a gift and I, um, I think
01:19:00.160 it's very difficult for, um, God to
01:19:03.180 give certain people gifts because once
01:19:05.600 they get the opportunity, it starts out
01:19:09.500 being, you know, here, God, I'll give you
01:19:11.720 all that.
01:19:12.160 And it becomes, uh, you know, nine for
01:19:15.640 you, one for me.
01:19:16.740 And it eventually becomes nine for me,
01:19:18.460 one for you.
01:19:19.360 Yeah.
01:19:20.020 So, um, I just said that I would make the
01:19:25.960 kind of films that would, uh, um, you
01:19:29.760 know, affect people's lives.
01:19:31.160 Like, you know, it's a wonderful life.
01:19:32.960 And when I met Jimmy Stewart, I was a
01:19:36.040 waiter for him and, uh, I, uh, was, went
01:19:40.700 and got him a drink and I was working at
01:19:43.260 a party and they told me I couldn't, you
01:19:45.280 know, speak to any of the celebrities.
01:19:46.500 And I saw that guy and I thought, well, I
01:19:48.500 could, you know, get fired for talking to
01:19:50.700 him.
01:19:51.580 So at the time I applied to the U S Naval
01:19:54.600 Academy, I applied three different times
01:19:56.600 and didn't get in.
01:19:57.400 I had a shot at West point and I told
01:20:00.380 him, you know, I know that you've flew
01:20:02.880 the liberators over Germany and he was
01:20:05.560 just shocked that I knew right here.
01:20:07.560 I am, you know, 19 years old, 20 years
01:20:10.280 old, and I knew so much about him.
01:20:12.960 And, um, I, I think that, um, I had
01:20:16.960 Clooney told me one time, uh, George said
01:20:20.480 that when they were at Rose, uh, he was
01:20:23.520 with Rosemary, his aunt, and they were at
01:20:26.220 Stewart's house and the, on the TV was
01:20:28.480 his Academy award.
01:20:29.480 And Stewart said, you know, I'd wish I
01:20:30.940 had done more.
01:20:32.420 And, and here's a guy that made arguably
01:20:35.280 one of the greatest films ever made.
01:20:36.900 I watch it every year.
01:20:37.820 It's a wonderful life.
01:20:38.720 Yeah.
01:20:38.920 And I wanted to have that kind of effect
01:20:40.660 on a people, but it was always God
01:20:43.480 through me that would make these films
01:20:47.420 great.
01:20:48.020 Is it true that you said, uh, I want to
01:20:50.300 play you?
01:20:51.880 No, I said, I don't want them to see me.
01:20:55.480 I want them only to see you.
01:20:57.460 And that became the difference.
01:20:59.340 And to do that was on the cross.
01:21:02.440 Yes.
01:21:03.000 I felt, um, the love that he had for me.
01:21:07.740 But when I asked him to come closer like
01:21:10.000 that, he said, you may not like what
01:21:12.320 you're going to get.
01:21:13.120 And I said, as long as they see you,
01:21:15.460 that's all that matters.
01:21:16.320 And what I felt was a broken heart
01:21:18.880 because our Lord's not loved by most of
01:21:21.880 his children.
01:21:23.000 And, you know, I tell people, I know
01:21:25.260 God loves you.
01:21:26.680 And, and if you don't know that, then,
01:21:29.140 you know, kind of live the life that,
01:21:30.700 um, that makes people feel that.
01:21:32.980 But those that say that, that have
01:21:35.220 accepted that, you know, you know,
01:21:37.160 just get up in the morning and tell
01:21:38.960 Jesus that you love him.
01:21:40.920 He needs to hear that too.
01:21:44.240 You are, you would have gotten along
01:21:46.580 with Hollywood a long time ago with
01:21:50.340 the Jimmy Stewart's of the world.
01:21:51.880 I think they were more like you, right?
01:21:54.500 Um, no, not so much, not so much.
01:21:58.520 Um, and yet you are, you are
01:22:00.600 consistently amazing in every role
01:22:04.280 I have ever seen you in.
01:22:05.520 You are just tremendous.
01:22:07.620 Glenn, I've said this before.
01:22:09.100 Um, the, the, the Hollywood at best,
01:22:12.460 you know, if that really is the world
01:22:14.340 at best, it, it can only like you
01:22:17.960 because the love, it does not come from man.
01:22:24.420 It comes from God.
01:22:26.240 So at best, Hollywood can like you.
01:22:28.080 And I can prove it to you.
01:22:29.020 When you go to the Academy Awards,
01:22:30.520 former winners are on the sideline.
01:22:32.520 People are making over.
01:22:33.440 It's over the, the current winter
01:22:35.680 and, and you look some of the films
01:22:38.000 and the substance that's coming out of them
01:22:39.680 and you, and they're making all over that.
01:22:41.280 People will give up everything
01:22:43.500 for a red carpet.
01:22:44.420 But, but the question you have to ask yourself
01:22:47.200 is, do you want to be liked by many
01:22:49.880 or loved by one?
01:22:53.440 I have a friend, uh, John Irwin
01:22:55.760 from the Irwin brothers
01:22:56.560 and they just made a film.
01:22:57.940 Um, uh, what's the name of it?
01:23:00.640 Uh, yeah, I can only imagine.
01:23:02.800 Came out this weekend.
01:23:03.980 Supposed to make $2 million.
01:23:05.300 It's a faith film.
01:23:06.240 It's really good.
01:23:07.660 Um, it has Dennis Quaid in it.
01:23:09.800 Supposed to make $2 million.
01:23:11.580 It made $17 million.
01:23:13.560 It's, it's only in 1600 theaters.
01:23:16.680 It was number three.
01:23:17.600 Wow.
01:23:18.320 This weekend.
01:23:19.020 Yeah.
01:23:19.680 That means the per square, uh,
01:23:22.100 per, per screen average
01:23:23.220 was more than the, the two films
01:23:25.160 prior to that are ahead of them.
01:23:27.320 Yeah.
01:23:27.540 Oh, that's over $10,000 a screen.
01:23:30.420 Yeah.
01:23:31.120 That's extraordinary.
01:23:32.180 Yeah.
01:23:32.860 Um, and you're not reading about it anywhere,
01:23:34.800 but yeah, but since you were in
01:23:38.420 passion, things have changed.
01:23:40.640 You don't need Hollywood as much
01:23:42.220 as, as you did.
01:23:43.980 The system, um, you know, the,
01:23:47.480 the, the truth is out there.
01:23:49.980 Um, and it's not going to go away.
01:23:52.500 And, uh, you know, the Earl,
01:23:54.260 the, uh, the, the guy brothers.
01:23:56.360 Yeah.
01:23:56.600 He came up one of the, I don't know
01:23:58.520 which one, but anyway, John, he did
01:24:00.500 the Steve McQueen documentary.
01:24:02.800 Did you see that American icon?
01:24:04.160 Yeah.
01:24:04.240 Yeah.
01:24:04.460 He handed it to me when I walked out
01:24:05.940 and I went home and I watched it
01:24:07.200 and here we can arguably say that
01:24:10.160 Steve McQueen was one of the greats.
01:24:11.940 Um, a physical actor, uh, a guy who, uh,
01:24:17.120 was absolutely the king of cool.
01:24:19.440 Um, but what was cool about him?
01:24:21.500 He was hot about something.
01:24:22.900 He was an orphan kid essentially.
01:24:25.180 And I watched this documentary.
01:24:27.100 It just moved me to tears that, uh,
01:24:30.160 even at the end he was searching
01:24:31.620 for something greater.
01:24:32.720 And he said there was a recording of him
01:24:34.960 that his wife gave out.
01:24:36.400 And he said that he'd wished he had
01:24:38.220 touched more people's lives, uh, from, uh,
01:24:42.260 Jesus and Billy Graham was there
01:24:43.760 at the end of his life.
01:24:45.440 And he, uh, he was looking for his Bible
01:24:48.680 as he was dying.
01:24:49.520 And, uh, Billy Graham gave him his Bible
01:24:52.280 who he was a great that just passed away.
01:24:55.420 And, and without Billy Graham,
01:24:57.220 we would not have, you know,
01:24:59.260 had the, the reaction from America.
01:25:01.800 We needed his support and he gave it to us
01:25:04.660 on the passion of the Christ.
01:25:06.400 What do you think about the, the
01:25:09.840 division, uh, between, uh, our faith
01:25:14.460 sometimes, you know, between, you know,
01:25:17.820 the Baptists and the Catholics and the
01:25:19.940 Mormons and the Protestants and everything
01:25:21.600 else.
01:25:22.040 What do you, how do we, how do we solve
01:25:24.240 that and come together on bigger issues?
01:25:26.560 Well, it's certainly not going to be, uh,
01:25:28.840 beating you over the head.
01:25:29.940 I mean, if God wanted to, he certainly
01:25:32.000 could beat us over the head.
01:25:33.480 Yeah.
01:25:34.900 Isn't he though?
01:25:35.620 What?
01:25:36.960 Beating us over the head.
01:25:38.060 I think he is starting to beat us over the head.
01:25:39.780 Well, it can, it eventually can come to that.
01:25:42.100 But right now the, I mean, there is a wrath
01:25:45.460 or a justice that's coming if we don't, uh,
01:25:48.340 essentially, um,
01:25:51.700 look, I, I, I really feel that the,
01:25:54.500 the ideal way would be love that he,
01:25:57.000 we, we would just naturally turn to him.
01:25:59.160 And that, I got that at a young age.
01:26:02.420 Um, but, uh, the, uh, we have an opportunity
01:26:07.740 right now to decide where we want to go.
01:26:11.580 As far as, you know, are all feeling,
01:26:15.400 I do believe there is one truth and we'll know that
01:26:19.020 one day in heaven.
01:26:20.560 If there were many truths, there would not be a truth
01:26:24.080 and there would be much divisions in heaven.
01:26:26.880 What there is probably the, the, the right way.
01:26:30.120 But, um, I look at Jesus and he did not beat people
01:26:35.340 over the head with, you know, either a turn or burn.
01:26:39.400 Now that is out there, but it's, um,
01:26:43.520 what, what I find is that you have the truth
01:26:46.420 years ago that would all, it would be given to us
01:26:49.700 just, just truth.
01:26:50.640 And then essentially that would become fire and brimstone.
01:26:54.620 And now it's Mike, all grace, you know,
01:26:57.860 all love and forgiveness and everything.
01:26:59.520 But then that becomes sentimental hogwash.
01:27:02.040 Our Lord is both truth and grace.
01:27:05.200 Are you happy?
01:27:06.880 Yes.
01:27:07.220 When I, when I came in here, I was a little frustrated,
01:27:10.080 but generally, yes, because I know that I'm, you know,
01:27:17.700 I, I have a future forever with Jesus, you know, in heaven.
01:27:23.600 And I tell, I tell people that, you know, I do believe
01:27:27.660 and I do believe it's worth dying for.
01:27:29.640 And I know I'm going to die someday.
01:27:32.400 Um, and I, I tell people that because, you know,
01:27:36.980 I tell people, yes, our Lord loves you, but I,
01:27:39.160 I don't always feel that it's, it, it is hard, but you know,
01:27:43.620 come hell or high water, you do the right thing.
01:27:46.220 No matter what, you just try to keep doing it.
01:27:48.640 I want to, I want to talk to you a little bit about that
01:27:50.660 because I, yeah, because doing the hard thing
01:27:52.760 or doing the right thing is really hard.
01:27:54.580 And you're a guy who has actually walked that walk.
01:27:57.640 You've really walked that walk.
01:27:59.560 Hey, you know, you know, Marcus Luttrell,
01:28:01.380 that was the last event we were at.
01:28:03.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:28:03.840 Marcus, uh, reached out to me cause I put in a movie,
01:28:08.420 the Count of Monte Cristo, God will give me justice.
01:28:10.880 And he wrote that on the cave wall.
01:28:12.920 Yeah.
01:28:13.400 And then, uh, he, we became close and he, uh,
01:28:17.980 I was the last time I was with him,
01:28:19.960 I was with him and Chris Kyle and I never saw him again.
01:28:23.420 Obviously that night we went on a great night and we,
01:28:26.660 and they want to just talk about that.
01:28:28.740 But how many soldiers that come up to me in the airports,
01:28:31.320 uh, and you know, special forces guys just ask me about Jesus.
01:28:37.860 They said, do you really believe in that?
01:28:40.080 I mean, does you, I heard you suffer.
01:28:42.760 I heard you, you know, were struck by lightning
01:28:45.380 and had open heart surgery that they,
01:28:48.000 that you went through horrible pains.
01:28:50.540 Do you really believe in that stuff?
01:28:52.600 And why are they asking me that?
01:28:54.520 And then eventually they talk about, you know,
01:28:57.200 I've had to take somebody's life, uh,
01:29:01.960 by my own hand and what that's like.
01:29:04.560 And is there a place in heaven for me?
01:29:06.860 You know, almost like daring God.
01:29:09.100 It reminds me of Gary Sinise in Forrest Gump
01:29:12.420 when he's up at the top of that tower.
01:29:13.900 It says, all right, God, it's you and me.
01:29:15.760 And I just love to, I identify with them.
01:29:18.940 Yeah.
01:29:19.140 Uh, that, that, uh, there are people out there
01:29:22.220 that will, will suffer whatever it takes
01:29:24.460 because they feel a brotherhood.
01:29:26.700 And I feel that brotherhood with our Lord.
01:29:28.500 And I want to let them know that they're loved.
01:29:31.640 Back with Jim Caviezel here in just a second.
01:29:34.060 He's got a new movie out, uh, called, uh,
01:29:37.000 Paul, Apostle of Christ.
01:29:38.580 It is in theaters Friday, the 23rd.
01:29:41.080 That's this Friday.
01:29:41.960 You can find out more about it at paulmovie.com.
01:29:45.920 Twitter handle at paulmovie.
01:29:48.740 Jim Caviezel, when we return.
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01:30:53.660 Glenn Beck, Mercury.
01:31:03.160 Glenn Beck.
01:31:04.440 Jim Caviezel.
01:31:08.160 You might know him from many,
01:31:11.000 many movies that he has been in.
01:31:14.180 Most famously, obviously,
01:31:15.780 he played Jesus in Passion of the Christ,
01:31:17.320 but also Person of Interest,
01:31:19.380 the People's Choice Award,
01:31:22.440 and now in a new movie
01:31:25.020 called Paul, Apostle of Christ.
01:31:28.180 And you play Luke.
01:31:29.300 I do.
01:31:29.720 Tell me about it.
01:31:31.300 Well, the film is right at the end of Paul's life,
01:31:35.220 like the last two weeks,
01:31:36.720 and he's in the Mamertine prison in Rome.
01:31:38.880 And this is during the,
01:31:39.980 one of the biggest terror reigns of Christians,
01:31:42.900 which was during Nero.
01:31:44.660 And I basically get into the prison
01:31:48.040 and try to bring his message of hope
01:31:51.320 to the Christian communities
01:31:52.660 that are barely alive in that area.
01:31:54.880 And, of course,
01:31:56.100 they're crucifying and burning them,
01:31:58.160 using them as light fixtures
01:31:59.880 all over Rome.
01:32:02.720 And I'm trying to give his message of hope,
01:32:07.680 and he really doesn't have the message
01:32:09.920 that they're looking for.
01:32:11.100 They don't know what to do.
01:32:12.860 And so, really, the film,
01:32:14.840 when I read it,
01:32:15.700 I said,
01:32:15.940 wow, this is now.
01:32:18.120 This is just,
01:32:18.980 we're all playing characters
01:32:20.260 in Scripture right now.
01:32:21.620 You know,
01:32:21.780 often people,
01:32:22.520 when they look at the Bible,
01:32:23.720 they say,
01:32:23.900 well, it's a piece of history.
01:32:25.520 It's not the same as if,
01:32:26.720 you know,
01:32:26.900 if you were to go back,
01:32:28.440 you know,
01:32:28.760 we were just talking about Berlin,
01:32:30.200 you know,
01:32:30.640 or Germany.
01:32:31.740 And that's a history,
01:32:32.840 you try to learn from history.
01:32:34.200 But this is something quite extraordinary
01:32:37.040 when you read Scripture
01:32:38.240 because it permeates your brain
01:32:41.860 into your heart
01:32:42.760 and bypasses it
01:32:45.060 and goes into that.
01:32:46.180 It's really,
01:32:46.760 and we're all playing
01:32:47.360 a different character,
01:32:48.300 you know.
01:32:48.500 I got to play Jesus
01:32:49.680 in the Passion,
01:32:51.220 but some of us,
01:32:52.100 you know,
01:32:52.440 get to play Judas
01:32:53.380 and some play
01:32:54.060 are the Pharisees
01:32:54.920 and some are Herod
01:32:56.600 and that's playing out
01:32:57.840 right now.
01:33:00.420 The Pharisees,
01:33:01.660 I mean,
01:33:01.980 the real problem there
01:33:02.660 was the hypocrisy
01:33:04.280 and there's,
01:33:05.760 where a lot of us
01:33:06.820 are Pharisees right now.
01:33:08.780 Yes.
01:33:10.240 And there are Judases
01:33:11.400 out there too.
01:33:12.660 You've taken quite a hit
01:33:17.640 your whole career.
01:33:19.140 I'll get you through,
01:33:21.540 what do you,
01:33:22.740 I mean,
01:33:23.240 your low points,
01:33:25.100 you know,
01:33:25.460 you've had,
01:33:26.720 you are a great actor
01:33:28.480 and because of what you believe,
01:33:31.560 you're not,
01:33:33.020 you're not asked to be
01:33:36.520 in all of the,
01:33:37.180 all of the great films.
01:33:39.640 How do you get through that?
01:33:41.520 I get through it
01:33:42.460 because I was in
01:33:43.200 the greatest film
01:33:44.300 there ever was.
01:33:46.100 You know,
01:33:46.760 look,
01:33:47.540 the,
01:33:49.300 I,
01:33:49.740 I almost never
01:33:52.700 became an actor.
01:33:54.860 I almost never did
01:33:56.160 the Passion of the Christ.
01:33:57.300 I almost never married
01:33:58.180 my wife,
01:33:58.760 Carrie.
01:33:59.000 I almost never
01:34:00.300 adopted my
01:34:01.600 three children.
01:34:04.360 Both,
01:34:05.060 all three of them
01:34:05.800 had two,
01:34:07.540 had tumors.
01:34:08.620 One
01:34:08.840 had the cancer,
01:34:10.540 sarcoma.
01:34:11.760 And,
01:34:12.400 I thought,
01:34:13.340 well,
01:34:13.480 I'm not the kind of guy
01:34:14.620 that can adopt,
01:34:15.960 you know,
01:34:16.140 I'm just not,
01:34:16.760 I'm too selfish.
01:34:18.340 That would have been
01:34:18.880 the worst mistake
01:34:19.860 of my life
01:34:20.400 if I had almost
01:34:21.300 not done those things.
01:34:22.640 The path
01:34:23.240 of
01:34:24.420 Christ
01:34:25.200 is hard.
01:34:27.100 It is the
01:34:28.060 road less
01:34:29.100 traveled.
01:34:30.420 It is,
01:34:31.400 but it is one
01:34:32.820 that is
01:34:33.520 beyond
01:34:34.600 I ever,
01:34:35.980 anything I've ever
01:34:36.780 experienced.
01:34:37.540 And,
01:34:38.500 um,
01:34:38.820 I know it's the way
01:34:40.160 for me.
01:34:41.440 I know,
01:34:41.960 yeah,
01:34:42.220 sure,
01:34:42.680 I've pouted
01:34:43.380 and played the victim,
01:34:44.480 but I realized that,
01:34:45.440 yeah,
01:34:45.620 it's not really
01:34:46.260 going to get it done.
01:34:47.980 Um,
01:34:49.020 victim is not
01:34:49.900 a strong,
01:34:50.500 strong position.
01:34:51.740 Jim Caviezel,
01:34:52.960 the name of the movie
01:34:54.280 is Paul,
01:34:55.240 Apostle of Christ.
01:34:56.300 It is in theaters.
01:34:57.080 This Friday.
01:34:58.920 Don't miss it.
01:35:03.040 Glenn
01:35:03.520 Beck
01:35:04.360 Mercury.
01:35:12.840 This is the Glenn Beck
01:35:14.120 program.
01:35:15.080 Welcome to the program.
01:35:16.440 We're glad you're here.
01:35:17.240 Jim Caviezel is here.
01:35:18.600 Pat Gray is just,
01:35:19.540 uh,
01:35:19.740 joined us from the,
01:35:20.780 uh,
01:35:21.720 Pat Gray Radio Roundup
01:35:22.980 or whatever it is.
01:35:24.820 That's exactly what it is.
01:35:26.040 Whatever it's called.
01:35:26.920 It happens after this program.
01:35:28.680 Pat,
01:35:29.020 Jim Caviezel,
01:35:29.640 Jim,
01:35:30.040 Pat.
01:35:30.620 Jim.
01:35:31.760 We've met actually before.
01:35:32.960 Yeah,
01:35:33.060 I know.
01:35:33.420 Yeah,
01:35:33.760 I know.
01:35:34.160 But I just wanted to make sure
01:35:35.420 that I was being a gracious
01:35:37.140 host here.
01:35:38.040 Yeah,
01:35:38.320 that's nice.
01:35:38.940 Yeah,
01:35:39.160 that's nice.
01:35:39.600 Good to see you again,
01:35:40.320 though.
01:35:40.600 Good to see you too.
01:35:41.280 So have you been,
01:35:42.080 Jim,
01:35:42.660 have you been down to,
01:35:43.580 uh,
01:35:43.780 Waco?
01:35:44.240 Have you seen,
01:35:45.080 uh,
01:35:45.660 you know,
01:35:46.000 Chip and Joanna Gaines?
01:35:47.080 No,
01:35:47.320 I don't.
01:35:47.740 Do you,
01:35:48.040 uh,
01:35:48.140 do you know of them?
01:35:49.420 No,
01:35:49.680 I don't.
01:35:50.040 Oh,
01:35:50.260 you got it.
01:35:50.620 Oh,
01:35:50.900 they're great.
01:35:52.320 Do you watch TV at all?
01:35:53.640 Are you?
01:35:54.420 I watch,
01:35:55.220 I watch a little bit,
01:35:56.220 you know,
01:35:56.560 here and there.
01:35:57.280 Obviously,
01:35:57.860 I'm just doing a lot of the,
01:35:59.660 I know you're making it.
01:36:01.740 Yeah,
01:36:02.020 I know,
01:36:03.380 I know.
01:36:04.180 Um,
01:36:04.620 but,
01:36:05.040 uh,
01:36:05.260 I was down at Waco.
01:36:06.120 I went down to the,
01:36:07.020 this weekend silos.
01:36:08.260 That,
01:36:08.580 that place is amazing.
01:36:10.300 Has totally transformed.
01:36:11.620 I mean,
01:36:11.840 these are,
01:36:12.360 these people are,
01:36:13.900 they're so good.
01:36:15.900 Uh,
01:36:16.460 and,
01:36:17.140 uh,
01:36:17.680 and people are flocking from all over the country.
01:36:21.240 And they can completely,
01:36:21.980 uh,
01:36:23.060 repositioned Waco,
01:36:24.420 Texas because Waco was what?
01:36:26.260 It was branch Davidian.
01:36:27.440 It was Waco Waco.
01:36:28.600 And now they've transformed it into this desirable place to go to.
01:36:32.820 Yeah.
01:36:33.200 And it's really,
01:36:34.140 it's,
01:36:34.280 it's amazing because here they are.
01:36:36.560 These,
01:36:36.840 they're,
01:36:37.060 they're people really pretty much like you,
01:36:38.900 uh,
01:36:39.520 that just kind of live their principles and,
01:36:41.280 and,
01:36:41.900 you know,
01:36:42.220 they're not ashamed of their faith.
01:36:43.560 And they do this little show on HGTV and it's,
01:36:48.280 it's turned into this monster.
01:36:50.580 Uh,
01:36:50.980 and I don't think people in the,
01:36:52.540 I don't think people in New York or Los Angeles really even understand it.
01:36:56.260 Uh,
01:36:56.700 you know,
01:36:56.960 they think,
01:36:57.300 well,
01:36:57.400 it's a husband and wife.
01:36:58.360 No,
01:36:58.740 no,
01:36:59.260 it's their principles and their values that really set them apart.
01:37:03.080 And they've just,
01:37:04.320 there was probably a hundred thousand people down there.
01:37:06.180 I bet.
01:37:07.080 I mean,
01:37:07.260 it was crazy.
01:37:08.020 It's always just jam packed.
01:37:09.140 Yeah.
01:37:09.320 And they're not even there.
01:37:10.280 It's just,
01:37:10.800 it's crazy what they've done.
01:37:12.200 Yeah.
01:37:12.300 But everybody there is hoping for a glimpse,
01:37:14.100 you know,
01:37:14.520 maybe this is the day they'll be running out and not,
01:37:17.020 I don't know,
01:37:17.320 straightening the shelves.
01:37:19.360 Yeah.
01:37:19.920 Yeah.
01:37:20.660 Straightening things up.
01:37:21.480 So,
01:37:22.000 so Jim is here cause,
01:37:23.300 um,
01:37:23.640 he's,
01:37:24.180 uh,
01:37:24.360 in a new movie,
01:37:25.160 Paul,
01:37:25.600 apostle of Christ.
01:37:26.460 And,
01:37:26.780 you know,
01:37:27.320 Jim,
01:37:27.540 I was,
01:37:28.060 um,
01:37:28.700 uh,
01:37:29.320 I love,
01:37:30.260 I love the story of Paul.
01:37:32.020 Um,
01:37:32.620 but the thing that sticks in my mind in Paul's life,
01:37:35.820 um,
01:37:37.680 well,
01:37:37.980 there's many things,
01:37:38.720 uh,
01:37:39.480 but,
01:37:39.880 but when he's on the wrong side,
01:37:42.500 you know,
01:37:44.100 at the,
01:37:44.600 uh,
01:37:45.360 at the death of James,
01:37:46.700 he's,
01:37:47.980 he's mentioned just hold,
01:37:50.800 give me your coat.
01:37:51.820 You go kill him.
01:37:53.600 Oh,
01:37:53.700 Steven or Steven.
01:37:54.680 Yeah.
01:37:54.820 Thank you.
01:37:55.400 Um,
01:37:55.880 he's,
01:37:56.340 he's,
01:37:56.980 he's standing there and he's listening to Steven and he's help riling up the crowd and he doesn't do any of the beating himself,
01:38:05.720 beating him to death.
01:38:06.660 He just says,
01:38:07.900 give me your,
01:38:08.520 give me your,
01:38:09.240 give me your,
01:38:09.940 give me your cloak.
01:38:10.620 I'll hold it for you.
01:38:11.680 Yeah.
01:38:11.860 Essentially.
01:38:13.440 Handing,
01:38:14.040 probably taking their clothes and handing them stones and have at him.
01:38:17.240 Yeah.
01:38:17.500 And just,
01:38:18.160 just,
01:38:18.560 I mean,
01:38:18.840 it's real evil manipulation.
01:38:21.560 I mean,
01:38:22.220 where he was the guy kind of behind the crowd.
01:38:25.040 Yeah.
01:38:25.580 But I think that when Steven called out,
01:38:28.700 you know,
01:38:28.880 I see the son of man repeating the words of,
01:38:31.160 of Jesus.
01:38:32.300 I see the son of man sitting at the right hand of the father coming in the clouds of heaven.
01:38:36.820 That reflection in his eyes,
01:38:38.980 he probably saw our Lord right there and probably was the beginning of the end of Saul.
01:38:43.960 How difficult would it be for you if you knew that Saul was coming your way and,
01:38:52.840 uh,
01:38:53.640 and,
01:38:54.240 uh,
01:38:54.740 you were told,
01:38:55.300 uh,
01:38:55.720 you know,
01:38:56.460 Jim,
01:38:57.340 I need you to go give him a blessing real quick.
01:39:00.260 How difficult would that be for you?
01:39:02.540 I think that would have been terrifying.
01:39:06.280 Well,
01:39:06.720 of course,
01:39:07.300 but you know,
01:39:08.580 I,
01:39:08.760 I look at the,
01:39:10.580 uh,
01:39:11.240 what just the,
01:39:13.400 some of the videos and pictures that I saw from what ISIS did to Christians last year,
01:39:18.840 um,
01:39:20.080 um,
01:39:20.240 during,
01:39:20.960 um,
01:39:21.840 good Friday where they literally executed them by crucifixion.
01:39:25.440 and I,
01:39:26.680 and I,
01:39:27.820 I think the modern day Christians really have to understand that,
01:39:31.900 you know,
01:39:32.920 we're all going to die someday.
01:39:34.380 and,
01:39:35.620 um,
01:39:36.400 you know,
01:39:37.540 being in heaven,
01:39:38.940 I want to,
01:39:40.160 I'd rather be known as someone who did something for Jesus than spending eternity without doing much,
01:39:45.860 uh,
01:39:47.060 for him.
01:39:48.100 Do you spend any time in the Middle East recently?
01:39:50.160 I,
01:39:50.820 yes,
01:39:51.360 I did shoot a movie out there,
01:39:52.920 The Stoning of Saraya M.
01:39:54.760 And,
01:39:55.220 um,
01:39:56.380 that really exposed,
01:39:57.580 uh,
01:39:57.840 Sharia law.
01:39:59.240 And,
01:39:59.840 uh,
01:40:00.500 um,
01:40:01.320 and it,
01:40:01.720 it just extraordinary what,
01:40:03.260 what,
01:40:03.900 um,
01:40:04.240 happens to women on there.
01:40:05.800 Yeah.
01:40:06.220 And I played a guy named Freyadim Saram Jam,
01:40:10.400 who was a,
01:40:11.340 uh,
01:40:11.940 guy who was just out there to write a story,
01:40:14.140 uh,
01:40:14.820 about the Hayatollah takeover of the Shah.
01:40:18.160 And there was a peaceful movement and whatnot.
01:40:21.280 and,
01:40:21.300 and,
01:40:22.420 uh,
01:40:22.920 out of this comes this,
01:40:24.540 uh,
01:40:24.700 woman's story of,
01:40:26.240 um,
01:40:26.780 being,
01:40:27.320 uh,
01:40:27.580 stoned to death.
01:40:28.760 And that the stoning still take place.
01:40:32.120 Um,
01:40:33.100 so it was,
01:40:33.880 uh,
01:40:34.740 I,
01:40:35.080 I don't feel we had a lot of help from many of the groups here.
01:40:40.820 Um,
01:40:41.520 you know,
01:40:41.860 many of the women groups that went there to,
01:40:43.980 to help there.
01:40:45.040 I will tell you that it's,
01:40:46.180 it's been encouraging to us.
01:40:47.940 We've raised probably $30 million now,
01:40:50.640 uh,
01:40:51.640 to get some of these Christians out.
01:40:53.440 We've,
01:40:53.720 we've taken 7,000 out of the Middle East.
01:40:57.400 Uh,
01:40:57.960 we're rescuing,
01:40:58.880 uh,
01:40:59.260 that's great slaves.
01:41:00.200 And,
01:41:00.620 and,
01:41:01.000 and,
01:41:01.200 and it's remarkable that there is a,
01:41:05.380 there,
01:41:05.860 while it's not talked about,
01:41:07.920 there is this,
01:41:09.020 this,
01:41:10.200 I don't know,
01:41:11.100 underground,
01:41:11.820 would you call it,
01:41:12.500 Pat?
01:41:13.180 This kind of this,
01:41:14.540 this is something that is not on the surface and nobody's talking about,
01:41:17.460 but there is real concern for that.
01:41:20.500 And,
01:41:21.040 and real,
01:41:21.980 the people really helping.
01:41:24.040 Good.
01:41:24.520 And a lot of people are helping,
01:41:28.000 but they're doing it in,
01:41:29.000 uh,
01:41:30.100 in,
01:41:30.480 uh,
01:41:31.100 in the,
01:41:31.680 uh,
01:41:32.000 in quiet ways or working in a,
01:41:34.280 like you say,
01:41:34.940 the underground.
01:41:35.800 Yeah.
01:41:37.080 The,
01:41:37.600 um,
01:41:37.840 the Christians are,
01:41:38.920 uh,
01:41:39.440 unlike anything I've ever met.
01:41:41.740 Chaldeans,
01:41:42.140 Syrians,
01:41:43.200 extraordinary.
01:41:44.260 They're,
01:41:44.600 I mean,
01:41:44.740 they're just,
01:41:45.240 they're,
01:41:45.480 they are,
01:41:46.160 they're not like anything I've ever met.
01:41:48.640 They're committed.
01:41:49.740 Yeah.
01:41:50.500 You know,
01:41:51.120 they have to be.
01:41:52.260 And,
01:41:52.780 and they are.
01:41:53.640 They,
01:41:54.080 you know what?
01:41:54.460 I read a quote this weekend.
01:41:56.240 I'd written down a long time ago and I've forgotten all about it.
01:41:59.020 They tend church,
01:42:00.940 not attend church.
01:42:03.280 You know,
01:42:04.060 they're tending every day.
01:42:05.760 They're,
01:42:06.480 they are there.
01:42:07.260 They know what it is.
01:42:08.200 It's not just a place they go to every Sunday.
01:42:10.900 Yeah.
01:42:11.980 And they take it seriously because it doesn't come easy for them.
01:42:14.460 Like it does us.
01:42:15.480 You know,
01:42:15.960 when you have to fight for something and,
01:42:17.960 and put your life on the line for something,
01:42:20.700 I think that changes you inside a little bit.
01:42:23.200 It makes you more,
01:42:24.280 makes you more committed.
01:42:25.360 Yeah.
01:42:25.640 They definitely are.
01:42:26.720 Yeah.
01:42:27.060 And we get so fat and lazy over here on everything that we don't know.
01:42:31.240 Yeah.
01:42:31.600 We did has no value,
01:42:33.260 has no value.
01:42:33.880 It's a great line in the film where Paul says to live is Christ,
01:42:37.660 to die is gain.
01:42:39.140 You know,
01:42:40.260 I'm sure many of those Chaldean Syrian Christians and Coptics,
01:42:44.120 um,
01:42:45.720 believe in the same way.
01:42:47.780 Yeah.
01:42:48.700 Is it true on another topic that,
01:42:50.840 that,
01:42:51.240 um,
01:42:52.200 there's a passion of the Christ sequel coming?
01:42:54.440 Yes.
01:42:54.980 And you are signed on for that?
01:42:56.580 Yes.
01:42:57.000 Yeah.
01:42:57.300 Wow.
01:42:57.720 As Jesus.
01:42:58.760 Yes.
01:42:59.820 Wow.
01:43:00.400 Well,
01:43:00.560 he'd have to be right.
01:43:01.660 Well,
01:43:01.940 I don't know.
01:43:04.560 Well,
01:43:05.040 I mean,
01:43:05.440 you know,
01:43:05.740 it's the next day.
01:43:07.240 Now I've turned into John.
01:43:08.640 So surprise.
01:43:10.700 I mean,
01:43:10.980 you don't,
01:43:11.440 you don't really look that different.
01:43:13.760 You work out and all that crap all the time.
01:43:15.940 I mean,
01:43:16.520 yeah.
01:43:17.060 Yeah.
01:43:17.880 That's overrated.
01:43:18.980 Fortunately.
01:43:19.880 Well,
01:43:20.140 I have to,
01:43:20.760 because there's so much of the work that you do is,
01:43:23.640 it involves stunt.
01:43:25.160 So if you don't keep that up,
01:43:28.120 you're going to have problems.
01:43:28.620 Especially on that.
01:43:29.480 I mean,
01:43:29.720 on that one,
01:43:30.660 you were,
01:43:31.460 I mean,
01:43:31.720 that one was pretty,
01:43:32.700 you know,
01:43:33.700 I was pretty serious.
01:43:34.800 Yeah.
01:43:34.980 Struck by lightning.
01:43:36.260 Yeah.
01:43:37.140 Last shot of the movie.
01:43:38.780 Very last shot.
01:43:40.140 What,
01:43:40.280 what,
01:43:40.500 what went through your,
01:43:41.740 I mean,
01:43:41.980 besides juice,
01:43:43.040 what went through your head on that?
01:43:45.760 I,
01:43:47.380 I,
01:43:47.720 I was,
01:43:48.520 I was scared,
01:43:49.420 you know,
01:43:49.900 just,
01:43:51.040 but it wasn't my time,
01:43:54.100 you know,
01:43:54.660 it was,
01:43:56.200 it,
01:43:56.400 I had physical problems,
01:43:58.540 you know,
01:43:58.960 with electrical,
01:43:59.980 uh,
01:44:00.300 heart and everything like that after that.
01:44:02.120 And I was on a lot of medication.
01:44:03.860 So in 2009,
01:44:05.040 I had my first heart surgery.
01:44:07.100 And then 2014.
01:44:08.600 Wow.
01:44:09.180 Was my,
01:44:09.820 was open heart,
01:44:10.920 uh,
01:44:11.440 at Cleveland clinic.
01:44:12.580 And they saved my life.
01:44:14.200 And it was because of that.
01:44:15.620 It was because of the,
01:44:16.600 I mean,
01:44:16.880 it was,
01:44:17.180 it was a combination of the,
01:44:18.640 the,
01:44:19.140 uh,
01:44:20.140 lightning bolt.
01:44:21.260 Um,
01:44:22.300 and then,
01:44:23.080 uh,
01:44:23.280 then the,
01:44:24.360 the hypothermia.
01:44:25.440 And then the,
01:44:26.780 the,
01:44:27.340 um,
01:44:28.620 um,
01:44:29.680 the pneumonia.
01:44:31.500 Have you thought about suing Mel?
01:44:33.160 I mean,
01:44:33.340 just taking it for everything that he's worth.
01:44:35.660 He's worth a few bucks now.
01:44:36.880 You might want to think about that.
01:44:38.040 He's a really nice guy.
01:44:39.620 I,
01:44:39.900 he is,
01:44:40.580 he is,
01:44:41.280 he,
01:44:41.500 you know,
01:44:42.140 I don't know him at all,
01:44:43.000 but,
01:44:43.180 uh,
01:44:44.360 in meeting him,
01:44:45.860 he's,
01:44:46.500 he's really quite brilliant.
01:44:48.300 Oh yeah.
01:44:48.800 He's a,
01:44:49.500 he's a freak show.
01:44:50.620 Yeah.
01:44:51.000 I mean,
01:44:51.280 you know,
01:44:51.940 going at about a thousand miles an hour.
01:44:53.860 He'd be the Michael Jordan of,
01:44:55.260 in my business of what he can do.
01:44:58.560 You know,
01:44:59.100 he has the,
01:45:00.700 he,
01:45:01.400 it's extraordinary with him because,
01:45:03.460 you know,
01:45:03.960 I mean,
01:45:04.340 you see him in Hamlet.
01:45:05.740 He can do Hamlet.
01:45:06.800 He can do his range.
01:45:08.160 Yeah.
01:45:08.600 His humor.
01:45:09.600 Yeah.
01:45:10.140 Um,
01:45:10.960 but,
01:45:11.760 uh,
01:45:12.180 just,
01:45:12.600 you know,
01:45:12.980 even looking at lethal weapon.
01:45:14.360 And,
01:45:14.520 and when,
01:45:15.920 uh,
01:45:16.160 Steve McAvity,
01:45:16.920 who produced the passion,
01:45:18.280 produced lethal weapon with melon,
01:45:21.160 you know,
01:45:22.340 at the opening of the movie,
01:45:23.380 he takes a,
01:45:24.040 uh,
01:45:24.800 gun and he's going to put it in his mouth and,
01:45:27.160 and he uses a bullet and,
01:45:28.520 you know,
01:45:28.780 and,
01:45:29.420 uh,
01:45:29.700 he's going to commit suicide and just how he layers,
01:45:32.980 uh,
01:45:33.320 takes the,
01:45:34.300 uh,
01:45:35.220 if you have an onion,
01:45:36.520 he just peels it away.
01:45:37.680 And later on,
01:45:38.680 he's up on top of the building.
01:45:40.520 This guy's going to commit suicide.
01:45:41.820 And he's,
01:45:42.180 he's smoking a cigarette up on the building.
01:45:44.280 He's like,
01:45:44.460 come on,
01:45:44.760 man,
01:45:44.880 it's not good to commit suicide.
01:45:46.200 It's really bad for your health,
01:45:47.680 you know?
01:45:48.000 And,
01:45:48.360 and you're laughing your head off because,
01:45:49.960 you know,
01:45:50.100 this guy just tried to take it,
01:45:51.860 but how he just sets it up and he gets you focused over here.
01:45:55.480 He's smoking a cigarette here.
01:45:56.400 You want to drag?
01:45:57.340 And,
01:45:57.660 and he,
01:45:58.580 and then he throws up another ball up in the air.
01:46:00.560 And then while you're looking over here,
01:46:02.320 his sleight of hand,
01:46:02.940 he puts the cuffs on the guy's wrist and,
01:46:04.840 and,
01:46:05.500 and then,
01:46:06.140 um,
01:46:06.760 he's like,
01:46:07.220 Oh,
01:46:07.420 you jerk,
01:46:08.100 I'm going to jump.
01:46:09.120 He goes,
01:46:09.460 do you really want to do it?
01:46:10.840 Do you,
01:46:11.200 you know,
01:46:11.500 I want to do it.
01:46:12.320 And so you go,
01:46:12.980 no,
01:46:13.400 the movie's over.
01:46:14.580 Jumps off.
01:46:15.300 And then of course they don't show it,
01:46:17.200 but then he,
01:46:17.880 they jump on that big old bag.
01:46:19.800 You hear this guy's nuts.
01:46:21.340 You hear that?
01:46:21.920 The male goes,
01:46:22.560 Oh,
01:46:22.660 that's fun.
01:46:23.160 Let's do it again.
01:46:24.520 But that,
01:46:25.240 that,
01:46:25.540 that's just,
01:46:26.320 I mean,
01:46:26.980 that's flat out straight up Gibson.
01:46:29.800 Is when,
01:46:30.260 when do you go into production with this?
01:46:33.680 Um,
01:46:34.080 I heard when I was speaking to him last time,
01:46:39.540 he says,
01:46:39.920 I'd like to be gone.
01:46:41.020 And he gave me a certain date by the,
01:46:42.800 that particular time.
01:46:44.040 You're not going to give it to us.
01:46:44.760 Well,
01:46:45.020 I,
01:46:45.180 that's how,
01:46:45.600 that's fine.
01:46:46.020 I'm not looking for a scoop,
01:46:47.120 but,
01:46:47.660 uh,
01:46:47.900 no,
01:46:48.200 he's,
01:46:48.540 he,
01:46:49.020 he just said,
01:46:50.020 I'd like to be going at this particular time.
01:46:52.120 But see,
01:46:53.040 this is the one,
01:46:53.940 two,
01:46:54.180 three,
01:46:54.340 he's on the fourth draft of the script.
01:46:56.540 Is it an air?
01:46:57.320 I started talking to him about this five years ago.
01:47:00.480 Nothing was mentioned.
01:47:01.860 Then last year,
01:47:03.120 uh,
01:47:03.980 both Randall Wallace,
01:47:04.900 who wrote,
01:47:05.940 has been writing the script.
01:47:07.000 They wrote Braveheart together.
01:47:08.760 And just to show you how hard it is,
01:47:10.980 that blueprint is everything.
01:47:12.940 And then,
01:47:13.960 um,
01:47:14.940 now he's on the fourth draft of this thing.
01:47:17.560 So he finally broke it.
01:47:19.840 That's why I'd never said anything about it,
01:47:22.080 but he finally figured it out.
01:47:24.040 It's kind of like Thomas Edison.
01:47:25.960 It's to the end.
01:47:27.340 And you go through the alphabet.
01:47:28.840 So by way of analogy,
01:47:30.180 he starts at a,
01:47:31.020 it gets to Z.
01:47:31.920 And then he goes,
01:47:32.820 Oh my gosh,
01:47:34.320 I figured it out.
01:47:35.400 But now he has to go back to a,
01:47:37.180 and start all over again.
01:47:38.280 But he's figured,
01:47:39.080 finally figured it out.
01:47:40.780 Jim's good to see you.
01:47:41.840 Thank you so much.
01:47:42.920 Uh,
01:47:43.200 the movie opens up,
01:47:44.280 uh,
01:47:44.660 this Friday.
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01:47:46.400 apostle of,
01:47:47.040 uh,
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01:47:49.360 You don't want to miss it.
01:47:50.200 It is opening in theaters everywhere.
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01:49:27.060 Glenn Beck,
01:49:28.900 mercury.
01:49:35.720 Glenn back.
01:49:38.320 Welcome to the program.
01:49:40.840 Um,
01:49:41.320 let's play a little,
01:49:42.240 um,
01:49:43.040 uh,
01:49:44.160 let's play a bit of Ben Shapiro on how the media has covered the gun
01:49:48.740 debate.
01:49:51.060 Where do you see the most egregious media bias right now?
01:49:55.820 Well,
01:49:56.020 over the last three weeks,
01:49:56.800 obviously the coverage of the gun debate has been absolutely egregious.
01:50:00.340 I mean,
01:50:00.500 I don't want to single out your network,
01:50:01.600 but CNN has been pretty bad on this from a conservative perspective.
01:50:04.500 Uh,
01:50:04.900 the,
01:50:05.300 the idea that when there's a mass shooting,
01:50:07.500 that the media feel the necessity to put on TV,
01:50:11.020 uh,
01:50:11.180 not only survivors,
01:50:12.260 but specific survivors that there's a certain subset of survivors who make it
01:50:15.280 on TV a lot,
01:50:16.080 a lot.
01:50:16.540 Uh,
01:50:16.720 and there are certain other survivors who don't,
01:50:18.580 uh,
01:50:18.720 and that they decide to single out certain events and not other events in
01:50:21.980 order to make a particular case,
01:50:23.140 or they allow certain people to go on TV and suggest that folks like Dana
01:50:26.660 Lash or people at the NRA are evil,
01:50:28.700 don't care.
01:50:29.300 They're terrorists.
01:50:29.800 And there's no pushback from the anchors.
01:50:31.700 You know,
01:50:31.800 this sort of thing makes a lot of people on the right feel that the media are,
01:50:34.980 are really using this as an opportunity to push gun control rather than
01:50:39.140 objectively covering,
01:50:40.280 you know,
01:50:40.720 the,
01:50:40.980 the legislative efforts that are going on in Washington DC.
01:50:43.420 So your view is it should be 50,
01:50:44.700 50,
01:50:45.020 even if most of the students are urging gun control measures,
01:50:48.240 you want it to be 50,
01:50:49.100 50 or,
01:50:49.700 no,
01:50:49.860 I think,
01:50:50.200 I think 80,
01:50:50.760 20 would be fine.
01:50:51.540 I mean,
01:50:51.880 I think that anything but 95,
01:50:53.060 five would probably be a good thing.
01:50:54.720 Uh,
01:50:54.920 and I think that it's also pretty obvious that listen,
01:50:58.020 everybody,
01:50:58.640 this is my opinion about journalism.
01:50:59.640 Everybody in journalism has their own political views.
01:51:01.500 We all vote obviously,
01:51:02.860 uh,
01:51:03.060 or at least most of us do.
01:51:04.180 Uh,
01:51:04.340 and it's,
01:51:04.880 it's not a pleasant thing when people in the media pretend their political views are not
01:51:08.700 influencing their coverage when it's so obvious that those political views clearly are influencing
01:51:13.100 their coverage.
01:51:14.100 That is,
01:51:14.660 uh,
01:51:14.980 Ben Shapiro.
01:51:16.260 And I love,
01:51:17.260 I love Ryan's,
01:51:19.040 what,
01:51:19.720 you think it should be 50,
01:51:20.780 50?
01:51:21.160 Well,
01:51:21.380 isn't that what you wanted for talk radio?
01:51:24.780 Seriously,
01:51:25.240 wasn't,
01:51:25.580 wasn't that,
01:51:26.220 and that was the legal requirement.
01:51:27.860 That was the legal requirement that everybody thought we should bring back the fairness doctrine.
01:51:32.280 And I don't want the fairness doctrine,
01:51:34.020 but to look at Ben Shapiro,
01:51:36.200 who was not asking for the fairness doctrine to like,
01:51:39.900 is that a,
01:51:40.660 that's a great,
01:51:41.600 that's a crazy,
01:51:42.640 no,
01:51:43.180 that's,
01:51:43.660 that's what you wanted to do to talk radio.
01:51:47.460 I'm sorry.
01:51:48.120 You don't like it for yourself.
01:51:49.620 And Ben is right.
01:51:52.200 All we want is just,
01:51:53.920 if you got an opinion,
01:51:55.280 say that's who you are.
01:51:56.420 And here's an opinion.
01:51:57.520 We've,
01:51:57.860 we balance it this way.
01:51:59.660 I don't have a problem with MSNBC.
01:52:01.960 They don't hide.
01:52:04.160 Glenn,
01:52:05.020 Beck,
01:52:05.920 Mercury.