The Golden One - April 11, 2018


Arch Warhammer and The Golden One. The Future of Sweden, Genetics, Politics.


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57 minutes

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161.52919

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9,249

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12

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

33


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Transcript

00:00:00.000 Greetings true friends. Today I am talking with my friend Arch Warhammer and we just did a first
00:00:10.380 part of this talk and that's available on his channel. So first link in the description if you
00:00:15.920 want to hear us talk a bit about the horus heresy and transhumanism and robotization and
00:00:23.660 a few different topics but now we're going to talk a bit about politics. Welcome to the channel
00:00:31.660 Arch Warhammer. Thank you for having me golden one. So you are located in our esteemed brother nation
00:00:40.660 Norway and I suppose you along with a lot of other Norwegians are looking in horror at the
00:00:48.540 turn for the worse Sweden has taken over the last few decades. Oh yeah I mean I'm a southerner
00:00:56.000 here in Norway and as you probably know our two countries basically don't have a border
00:01:01.380 so if your country goes down mine's next. Yeah and I saw a headline a year or two back and said
00:01:13.300 like if Sweden collapses Norway will take measures to I don't I can't remember what
00:01:21.760 it was but the levels of awareness between the Norwegian establishment and the Swedish establishment
00:01:32.300 is quite significant and obviously as I've said in previous videos like all of the west are facing
00:01:39.140 the same sort of problems but you notice especially as a Swedish individual that there is a difference
00:01:45.440 in how the mainstream conversation goes how the politicians talk about these things and I mean
00:01:52.440 the Norwegian politicians they are a lot more sane than our Swedish ones so I suppose that a lot of
00:02:00.400 Norwegians and also Danes and Finns they're looking at Sweden and and just ask themselves what is
00:02:07.140 uh going on so is this something you have noticed with uh with other uh Norwegians as well that they
00:02:14.160 they ask themselves what uh what is Sweden doing? Oh definitely I mean we were kind of heading in your
00:02:21.160 direction for a while I mean we had politicians asking for sharia courts increased immigration all of
00:02:27.360 this shit but your poor country essentially uh was the one who received the most immigrants first and so
00:02:34.540 we've kind of been shielded so uh thank you I suppose we we took the bullet for for Norway um and I haven't
00:02:44.680 been to Norway since I was little so I don't know how the situation looks now but as far as I've understood
00:02:51.520 like talking with uh Norwegians is that uh Norway as um Norway in general is quite uh like well off still
00:03:02.420 except for parts of Oslo is that is that correct? Yeah um we've done a relatively good job here in
00:03:10.200 Norway with integration because we've received small enough numbers to the point we've actually
00:03:14.500 been able to integrate most of them um most of our like proper foreign immigration from third world
00:03:21.440 countries etc has gone relatively well as well as these things can go um actually one of our largest
00:03:28.240 problems with uh immigration crime comes from uh Polish people who steal anything and everything
00:03:33.820 that isn't nailed to the floor. Okay okay yeah the the Polish people in Sweden are uh quite nice
00:03:40.720 actually like very hard working and uh generally good people so I suppose you attracted the bad Poles
00:03:47.020 and we got the good Poles um I mean they probably look at this like okay Sweden's uh currently turning
00:03:53.400 into an Islamic Republic let's just skip that and steal the Norwegian stuff instead. Yeah uh also uh I
00:04:01.580 didn't properly introduce you uh something that I might point out is that Arch Warhammer and I have some
00:04:09.500 um differences in our political views so uh uh and you would describe yourself as a uh more like
00:04:17.240 liberalist is that correct? Oh definitely yeah I I'm the kind who um I mean I like the state I'm
00:04:23.320 not not a narco crazy or anything like that I think the state does stuff that uh the rest of us
00:04:29.080 can't be bothered to do like maintaining our goddamn roads and stuff but other than that I would like
00:04:34.040 to see people have as much in the way as liberties as reasonably possible within a civilized society.
00:04:41.820 All right and uh and obviously we had a conversation a while back where I elaborated on the
00:04:47.540 the 11 ethno state uh which is the which is a future goal and obviously my uh my political goals
00:04:56.680 is to basically secure a future for um for my people uh I want Sweden to be Swedish in uh in a hundred
00:05:04.160 years I want her to be people who look like me in uh in a hundred years as well so the the question
00:05:10.420 of integration is not something I'm overly fond of I think I think that we can integrate other Europeans
00:05:17.880 and then obviously we can have a very limited immigration of people who they're here as esteemed
00:05:25.540 guests so for example in Sweden we have um with immigrants from Japan uh who uh you know does a bit
00:05:33.120 of everything they have sushi restaurants and I see no problem with that at all because they
00:05:39.180 don't make it a mess they don't cause any trouble and they don't want to impose their uh way of life
00:05:46.800 on us and also I might elaborate on this quickly as well that the the problem I don't have anything
00:05:54.680 against immigration per se I absolutely do not hate anyone based on their birth I do hate people
00:06:00.860 but that's because they've done something wrong so for example the the mainstream politicians of Sweden
00:06:05.920 I do uh I can say that I feel uh um a bit of hatred towards them but I don't hate anyone based on their
00:06:12.920 birth but the situation in Sweden is that we are or in all of the west by the way we're being replaced
00:06:20.240 as a people with other peoples who have distinctly different genetics of ourselves and if all of these
00:06:29.140 people uh integrate there will be no people who look like me in 100 years or 200 years and that
00:06:36.820 is a top priority for me uh so that is basically my my take upon the political situation and when I say
00:06:46.140 political I would rather say like the the survival uh situation um so yeah just wanted to have that
00:06:53.980 to have that said but uh is that something you um you agree with or do you have any other
00:07:00.620 takes on that see I um I don't view it to be as dire of a situation for me it matters less but at the
00:07:08.700 same time I really don't mind that kind of opinion like if you can achieve your goals via the society
00:07:17.380 you currently live in via voting etc I don't mind at all I mean in Sweden you should be allowed to make
00:07:23.980 you want and uh considering the current situation in Sweden I actually consider your position to be
00:07:33.480 far more reasonable than I would in many other countries because I mean your country has seen
00:07:38.180 some of the absolute worst of uh good old-fashioned multiculturalism yeah to to say the least
00:07:44.820 and also I know yeah we talked about this before and uh a bit we talked about the the means of
00:07:52.400 achieving our goals and I was at a conference in Stockholm yesterday uh which was very nice and
00:07:59.160 shout out to everyone and anyone who came up to say hello including a a contingent of Norwegians
00:08:05.200 like 30 Norwegians who were there so very pleasant indeed uh and we had I held a speech and then some
00:08:11.660 other people held speeches and then we had a Q&A and the perhaps the most um one of the questions at
00:08:20.060 least and it's obviously a hugely important uh question is that how how do we achieve uh this goal
00:08:27.760 and um the goal of them being securing Sweden for Swedes um or for white people or or what have you and
00:08:35.440 my response is uh was the following the first thing we do is to cut off any economic incentives for
00:08:42.180 people to come here uh because that's that's what they do the majority of people who are uh coming
00:08:48.220 to Sweden they do so because their uh their smugglers has promised them that oh if you go to Sweden you
00:08:53.760 will live a life in luxury and you will get a girlfriend and when you will get a car and you
00:08:58.000 will just have a life of complete luxury uh the the reality obviously looks a bit different but
00:09:04.120 that's why they come here so first step is that we cut off all economic incentives for
00:09:09.400 uh these sort of people to come here and the second part of it is to create economic incentives for
00:09:15.960 them to go back to their own homelands and I am absolutely certain that they would feel a lot better
00:09:22.920 in their own homelands or I would actually say that I know for a fact that they do feel better in their
00:09:29.020 own homelands in societies created by them for them in an environment that is suited to them
00:09:35.400 so it's also obviously I put my people first at all times no regrets about that at all but
00:09:42.900 also for for their sake it's better if they live in their own nations okay uh with the removal of
00:09:52.620 economic incentives to come to the country I 100% agree I mean here in Norway if you arrive in
00:09:59.160 Norway I think you're given a house uh full um full interior decorating of course it's usually pretty
00:10:04.640 fucking big house as well I mean you're given a car you're given uh better welfare services than
00:10:10.780 native-born Norwegians for years upon years upon years and you are just cuddled to death by the state
00:10:16.980 and I'm like okay I don't see the point in this I really don't um as for getting them to leave with
00:10:24.360 economic incentives I don't again particularly mind um I personally don't see the point in it in the
00:10:31.180 situation of Norway in Sweden uh yeah I can see far more of a point in it because I'm kind of like
00:10:35.680 okay we've already given these people literally millions do you really want to give them millions
00:10:41.220 more to leave yeah but I mean the uh a multicultural society is never something that is desirable it has
00:10:49.960 no benefits to anyone and it doesn't benefit the Norwegians to have a large population of um
00:10:57.740 well basically non-Europeans there and it doesn't benefit them at all uh because they have so if
00:11:06.060 we have an African for example um he would feel and thrive much much better in Africa because over
00:11:14.240 countless generations he has been genetically and evolutionary suited to that sort of environment
00:11:20.820 so we can take such a thing as the sun uh for you and I we have our um our pale skin and everything
00:11:27.840 like that we can feel good enough with the level of sun and how the weather is up here for someone who is
00:11:36.100 evolutionary created to um work well in a sunny and hot climate if I was um an African I most definitely
00:11:47.540 would not actually want to live in a cold and dark place such as Sweden I would probably feel
00:11:53.220 absolutely horrible with myself because of absolutely natural reasons such as yeah that they haven't
00:11:59.860 been uh evolutionary suited to a cold and dark place just as I would perish in the in the hot sun down in
00:12:08.820 Africa and I'm important there to uh to point out that this isn't to say that oh these people are better or
00:12:16.500 those people are better it's just that we're adapted differently depending on where we live so I would
00:12:22.500 definitely say that uh it's a sunk cost with all of this the what matters is the future and for me
00:12:29.300 personally I want to see a Norway uh an ethnically homogeneous Norway which is productive and I know
00:12:36.580 for a fact also that a an ethnically homogeneous Norway which focuses all its efforts on well
00:12:43.300 caring for their own people and then definitely if we want to help people we can help them via
00:12:53.140 uh not missionary work but work in their nations creating good stable conditions for them to develop
00:12:59.300 themselves in uh so yeah that's my take on on the on the Norway question at least yeah and again I think
00:13:08.020 our primary disagreements is with the uh the necessity of it like for me for example I am entirely fine with
00:13:16.980 there being people from different cultures in Norway as long as they are willing to put
00:13:21.380 Norwegian first and I I love nothing better than to seeing a proper black man like full subs of
00:13:27.620 foreign African speak in a heavy trunder accent that that amuses me greatly yeah I mean it can it can be
00:13:36.180 fun and all that and it can be endearing to see someone who has um you know appreciates Norwegian culture
00:13:41.780 to the fullest but the end game the end result of that sort of assimilation is that there will not be
00:13:49.620 uniquely Norwegian looking people around anymore and for me personally I place a certain value in
00:13:58.900 just the fact that Scandinavians look in a certain way I don't want that to disappear
00:14:05.540 then of course the situation in Norway it isn't as dire in Sweden but if I look the the trajectory of
00:14:13.540 western civilization I still want there to be people who look like us in a hundred years and the long
00:14:21.380 term result of a an assimilation is a um is that there will not be any more people with our recessive
00:14:32.260 genes uh it will just be a um a standardized human people uh and I know that's the that's what a lot of
00:14:41.780 globalists want they want uh all people to to be one size fits all because that's useful in in a um
00:14:50.260 in a free market economy where they can you know base an identity upon stuff you buy instead of having
00:14:56.180 an identity in in blood etc but uh for me as I see it right now uh the 11 ethno state is definitely
00:15:04.740 something I want to I want to see uh now with that said uh it's not that I want to kick out
00:15:12.180 everyone who isn't Norwegian but if we're talking about the trends and the trajectory so if I see
00:15:18.900 right now in Sweden if we had completely stopped immigration and if we assimilate all non-europeans in
00:15:28.180 Sweden and they completely mix with the native Swedish population that would be a uh travesty to
00:15:35.220 the world then we would have a lot less of our of our people basically so that is why I am uh I'm
00:15:43.780 seeing this uh this beautiful Scandinavian uh people are in danger because of that so that's my that's
00:15:51.380 my reasoning right there okay yeah no I understand um again I just don't think we have the same uh
00:15:58.900 you know value system I don't mind as much I am primarily concerned about Norwegian culture uh the
00:16:04.580 look of the people that's something I care less about but at the same time I can also understand
00:16:09.860 your position and in the case of Sweden again I can respect it yeah yeah I mean I'm sure we when it comes
00:16:18.180 realpolitik we agree with each other uh on quite a lot of things but uh just a note there regarding
00:16:24.740 the culture is that Swedish culture is a direct result of Swedish people uh without Swedish people
00:16:33.300 there can be no Swedish culture so everything we have and everything we take for granted it's because
00:16:38.980 it has grown from our unique our uniqueness as a people and if we replace the people we will inevitably
00:16:48.180 replace the culture uh because genetics is the uh it's the bedrock of everything basically
00:16:56.180 and it's might be a harsh truth uh but it is the truth nonetheless uh so that is also why I am
00:17:04.100 adamant in pointing out that the the majority of the genetic stock of Sweden must be Swedish for us to
00:17:12.660 maintain the the beautiful society we once had uh and also when it comes to certain things such as
00:17:20.660 I know you are uh we're in agreement with a lot of um classic liberal ideas uh in regards to freedom
00:17:28.500 and I would argue that freedom is something that we could we can have in the north in Scandinavia
00:17:34.660 because our people are well suited to it and then also it worries me quite a bit if um like those
00:17:45.140 freedoms can exist in a in a nordic in a in a western country I'm not as sure that they would those kind
00:17:53.060 of freedoms would exist in a in a non-european Sweden for example now that's a really interesting
00:18:01.380 question because it's a fucking complicated one as well because then we come into the entire point
00:18:07.220 of evolution why people are how they are how they become how they are like nature has a certain um
00:18:14.260 uh influence upon that like you said white skin because of the sun etc um the needs of the society
00:18:20.180 we're in for example in um in northern countries I believe the the theory is called the harsh weather
00:18:27.140 theory or something uh basically we had to evolve a more complex cooperative society quicker
00:18:34.260 because if you didn't build up a serious supply of food for the winter in Norway or Sweden you just
00:18:39.540 fucking died whilst in sub-saharan Africa for example whilst you might have a very harsh life
00:18:45.060 if you didn't plan ahead it wouldn't be as bad etc yeah yeah definitely and uh and that's also something
00:18:52.180 when I talk about like it's not about who is better it's about who is more adapted to what sort of
00:18:58.100 society so in Africa for example uh planning ahead hasn't been as important because food was always
00:19:05.140 there but there was always the danger of uh other males or other um other like wild animals etc so the uh
00:19:15.380 whereas for us here in the north we had to think about how to survive winter uh planning ahead
00:19:21.220 uh not being as um well we can't have the the luxury or like luxury it's not a luxury to
00:19:30.740 to uh to fight with um like wild animals either but the luxury of living in in the moment so uh and
00:19:38.180 that's obviously had a profound impact in how we build our societies uh and something that I really
00:19:46.100 want to point out is that it has taken a long time to create this final product of the Scandinavian
00:19:55.300 people for example it's a long line of refined evolutionary evolution uh that has gotten us this
00:20:02.820 point and when I see such a people being replaced on a genetic level it's the um I can you see it's like
00:20:12.500 a tree or a flower that's been growing for a very long time and then someone comes and cuts it down
00:20:19.300 obviously exceptions will happen uh definitely but when it happens on a grand scale it truly breaks my
00:20:26.180 heart uh so that is at least the point of my um my issue with the with the genetic question but uh but
00:20:35.540 moving on to um to some uh to another um topic which we have discussed before and that's the uh
00:20:43.780 a bit more classic liberal view of of a lot of things so uh obviously freedom of speech is quite a
00:20:52.260 hot topic uh at the moment is that is freedom of speech also something that is uh a core belief of yours
00:20:59.140 uh personally i'm of the opinion that freedom of speech should be absolute because i don't care how
00:21:06.660 insulting or how vile something somebody has to say is they should still be allowed to say it because
00:21:13.620 otherwise you're basically saying that your society is too weak to handle it
00:21:19.780 yeah yeah yeah no i i agree i i absolutely resent um this sort of internet culture where it's only about
00:21:29.140 insulting people and i have taken a lot of heat over all these years as well but the the alternative
00:21:37.380 uh is uh is not something i want either i would i would definitely not want um censorship uh and i mean
00:21:45.780 the the whole issue with count dankula now it's just um it's just horrible and especially since it
00:21:50.820 happens in the birthplace of classic liberalism like great britain that he he will then be
00:21:56.900 harassed by the state for making um a bad joke it's ridiculous and like you said here's the thing
00:22:05.380 freedom of speech is absolute but that doesn't mean we can't encourage people to actually have a
00:22:10.980 civil conversation about things i mean i would even say to go so far as we should kind of shame people
00:22:17.460 that can't have a civil uh conversation we should let them speak but we should also point out like
00:22:22.180 okay you're acting like a child now yeah definitely and and this is something i've uh begun doing as
00:22:29.060 well here on youtube a bit i i'm quite fed up with a lot of people who comedy is rude uh and it doesn't
00:22:37.300 have to be rude against me it's rude about other people or is rude about things in general because
00:22:42.900 it doesn't it hardly aids our cause in uh you know for freedom of speech or for saving modern europe
00:22:49.780 etc and it's just not not something that should be encouraged so i'm i'm all for shaming people who
00:22:55.460 can't conduct themselves in a good way also yeah mockery has its place certainly especially when you're
00:23:01.380 conversing with somebody that just isn't willing to listen like far-left feminists but yeah yeah it should
00:23:08.180 also be a um a measure of last resort in my opinion first you should try talking to them and if they
00:23:13.940 won't talk okay then you'll have to try and convince the audience by by mockery by humor etc yeah so uh i
00:23:23.140 know we haven't talked about this before so this is just um throwing a question at you but were you uh
00:23:28.980 were you active here on youtube when the whole gamer gate was uh came came to light no i uh i missed out
00:23:36.420 on that by about a year or so i i started youtube out of a complete impulse moment because i knew
00:23:44.340 total war warhammer was coming and i was like okay i hated rome too because they ruined that
00:23:49.940 so i wanted to make sure that this time i could shout at them if they this one up
00:23:57.060 all right so and that was in was that in 2015 in may or something um something like that i think
00:24:04.900 all right yeah okay so your your channel is uh quite new then i would say um i think i've been doing
00:24:11.780 this for three three four years maybe yeah yeah that's uh yeah it's new enough i suppose well you
00:24:23.380 you obviously your your channel is bigger than mine so uh so i suppose i'll have to pull the i'm older
00:24:29.140 than you card but but yeah no it's uh it's a good uh good channel um yeah no i i sort of missed that as
00:24:38.900 well or i was more into fitness when that whole thing uh transpired but uh in the grand scheme of
00:24:45.460 things i think it was a good uh a good wake-up call for uh for a lot of um of people uh seeing this um
00:24:52.820 this horrible feminists come in and want to take our our games away from us and not only our games
00:24:58.260 but our our lore as well uh and something i fear is that uh the uh the feminists will start going
00:25:06.820 after uh black library and horace heresy and stuff like that and that would truly break my heart
00:25:14.100 oh definitely uh game again was a real wake-up call for the gaming industry and an effective one and
00:25:20.980 i mean we're starting to see some serious uh fight back as well inspired by game again in stuff
00:25:26.340 like marvel for example which is finally starting to de-feminize itself just a little bit but the
00:25:34.420 threat is by no um no means over not even fucking close and i do believe that within the next
00:25:41.060 i'd say couple years is going to be the danger zone for games workshop if um because because they've
00:25:47.780 just recently started communicating with their goddamn fans for the first time in 20 plus goddamn years
00:25:52.740 yeah and if they start listening to the wrong type um we're gonna see them going much the same
00:25:59.540 direction as marvel i'm afraid and i really hope we can avoid that yeah yeah definitely it as i said it
00:26:06.180 would truly break my heart especially since i've read so many like horace heresy books and also warmer
00:26:11.220 fantasy books uh so yeah hopefully they will listen to um and i mean the thing with games workshop is that
00:26:19.140 their fan base as far as i know are quite homogeneous it's like young young white straight men basically
00:26:27.620 uh and i definitely hope that they will cater to that fan base instead of trying to gain
00:26:34.500 because here's the thing games workshop it's a company as well obviously they want to expand
00:26:39.220 their markets and they want more people in the hobby i definitely understand that but
00:26:43.300 i i really can't see like warhammer becoming popular with um i don't know the majority of other
00:26:51.940 uh other groups than it already is i might be wrong but uh point being i hope and if anyone in games
00:26:58.820 workshop is listening to this right now please uh please keep it as it is yeah because i think you're
00:27:05.380 right the um the 40k fan base is relatively homogeneous um both because it hasn't it's been a very niche
00:27:12.420 thing for ages a niche european thing it's getting more widespread now in fact i think it's it's
00:27:19.140 slowly but surely approaching actual mainstream but one thing that's really interesting is
00:27:25.300 regardless of uh race gender color creed etc the vast majority of 40k players are on the conservative
00:27:33.940 side they're um center left to center right there there's very little extremity in this there's very
00:27:41.940 little far right very little far left really i would actually say that there is probably a i don't
00:27:48.180 like to use the term far right but i would say that a lot of people who are attracted to well mainly the
00:27:54.260 aesthetics of the game are um well leaning a bit to the right so to speak because i mean the the aesthetics
00:28:03.060 it's uh it's uh powerful militaristic and uh if we're talking about such things as um the primarchs for
00:28:11.220 example um heroic demigods uh it is a quite right wing well put it like this it's very hierarchical uh
00:28:20.900 it's about hierarchy uh a leftist will obviously not appreciate the uh the um the uh what you will call it
00:28:30.820 well differences in in a primark and in a space marine and a regular human so i'd say that there
00:28:37.700 is this uh element of um traditional right-wing views ingrained in the in the warhammer world and as
00:28:47.940 we talked about on um on your channel in the first part of the the conversation that it's uh it's geared
00:28:55.060 like the whole empire of man or imperium of man is geared towards the survival of um of humanity
00:29:02.020 and i'd say that there is something um inherently uh right-wing with that uh and i mean right-wing
00:29:10.260 in in the in the sense of the word today so i'm not talking about workers right or anything like
00:29:15.300 that uh but yeah that was a a tangent i went off on i think it's again a question of um degrees i i don't
00:29:23.460 like the term far left or far right either i usually use far left to uh talk about the literal
00:29:30.020 communists because i think a lot of us are fairly centered like i wouldn't even consider you to be
00:29:36.180 far right i would consider you to be a fairly um reasonable right i mean yeah thank you the far
00:29:43.300 right you're the people that go like oh revolution now we must kill the immigrants and i'm like okay
00:29:48.100 yeah yeah i'm uh the the thing with those kind of people is that they don't uh many of these people
00:29:59.700 and this is very regrettable is that they they don't really care about moderate europe they don't
00:30:05.860 really care about sweden they get a kick out of being pretending to be extreme they get a kick out of
00:30:13.140 um provoking people uh that is what ultimately drives them anyone who's truly dedicated is going
00:30:20.980 to try to present himself and our views in the best possible way so i mean when someone uh an anonymous
00:30:30.260 commenter uh talking about bloody revolution and everything like that that is not someone who's
00:30:35.700 dedicated enough to to have a good grasp of the situation uh so to that's just something that i
00:30:43.460 know it's a weakness within the um the right wing um part of of politics that there is a lot of
00:30:52.420 anonymous commenters that are misrepresenting us in a horrendous way and this is also very
00:30:57.940 demoralizing because i know that when the media like mainstream media journalists are looking through my
00:31:04.260 my social media and channels etc they are they're absolutely looking for uh these sort of impulsive
00:31:11.460 individuals who are writing a lot of stupid things uh so uh yeah they're not uh they're not
00:31:18.420 ideologically driven they're just out to to provoke that's um yeah sorry to interrupt you i just wanted
00:31:25.060 to to clarify that no that's fine now i think it is um a question of maybe would realism be the
00:31:33.140 correct word almost because i think like you said last time we spoke revolutions are messy
00:31:39.460 yeah and uh neither side tends to really come out that good from a revolution the uh i mean in sweden
00:31:46.980 i agree you need to start taking some pretty radical measures to get control over the situation because
00:31:52.100 i mean you it's not um how do i put it it's not a made-up threat that's in your country you are in a
00:32:01.140 general position of you know danger you you've gotten so much islamic immigration that you are
00:32:06.180 in danger of becoming an islamic goddamn state i mean well you have at least one active sharia court
00:32:13.140 in a scandinavian country and that's just like that's that's wrong it's very wrong yeah yeah it's uh it is
00:32:21.460 we like we are in uh in a dire situation uh and that's just the um like on so many levels uh the
00:32:31.380 the welfare system obviously have uh failed a long time ago we have elderly people who are
00:32:39.220 more or less being thrown out on the street uh that wouldn't have been the case 20 years ago
00:32:44.740 uh so and a lot of things going on behind the curtains as well a lot of a lot of decay in society
00:32:52.820 uh purely because of economic reasons so when someone says oh there is a there's a riot in
00:32:59.540 rinkby or something like that there's a riot in an immigrant heavy area i mean that's just yeah it
00:33:05.380 looks bad but that is just the tip of the iceberg the the things i'm worried about are you know the very
00:33:12.500 fabric of our society is crumbling uh that is the the horrendous part uh so yeah i mean definitely we
00:33:20.740 are in in a in a bad situation uh but uh to just uh to just white pill people here i definitely
00:33:28.180 think there is hope and we obviously have an election coming up this uh this year uh so that
00:33:34.020 will be uh quite interesting and there is a array of hope isn't there because the the more far left
00:33:41.540 forces in swedish politics are starting to lose a bit of ground now yeah yeah the uh the political
00:33:49.140 situation and the metapolitical situation in sweden has changed so much over the last eight years
00:33:55.860 sweden democrats got 5.7 percent in 2010 and if you said that you voted for the sweden democrats then
00:34:04.500 you were just branded as the worst sort of um fascist there ever was now however
00:34:12.180 i mean the um when you're doing test polls etc on on certain occasions sweden democrats has gotten up to
00:34:19.620 about 25 percent and if you had said that to a swedish person eight years ago they wouldn't have
00:34:26.900 believed it so i mean the uh the political situation has changed so extremely much uh now i don't think
00:34:34.260 uh i don't necessarily think sweden democrats is enough to uh to solve the situation but that
00:34:41.380 they're getting more support is obviously something it's a it's a step in the right direction at least
00:34:46.260 i think uh the sweden democrats are definitely a step in the right direction they're swedish
00:34:50.980 nationalists uh they're fairly conservative it's a reactionary movement true but that doesn't
00:34:57.380 invalidate it in my opinion i definitely think they are what sweden needs right now and the best part is
00:35:04.740 now that their positions are starting to actually get some traction in the mainstream and become popular
00:35:11.300 and people start to realize that this they are just nazis they are starting to influence the other
00:35:15.860 parties i mean i've i paid a little bit attention to the swedish politics and stuff and now you see
00:35:22.180 people like from the social democrats and the moderates starting to parrot sweden democrats talking
00:35:28.420 points and basically pretending that yeah no no we uh we always agreed with this you know we were just
00:35:34.340 not speaking about it before yeah yeah that's that's exactly the case and it's so hilarious to see
00:35:41.220 like the social democrats and the moderates like four years ago they were just calling
00:35:45.540 the sweden democrats the absolutely worst fascists and then now yeah as you say they parrot the same
00:35:51.380 sort of rhetoric and they obviously do this because here's the thing with politicians they have one
00:35:58.340 goal and that is to get into power so when the metapolitical landscape shifts the politicians
00:36:03.780 will shift with them as and that is why i'm so adamant about we must win the metapolitical war
00:36:09.460 because politics is downstream of culture change the culture change the politics and they obviously see
00:36:15.700 that oh the sweden democrats are growing at our expense uh we need to get these people back so
00:36:21.860 they harden the rhetoric now the problem is that the sweden democrats they have they had a unique
00:36:27.860 opportunity to go like to more reasonable measures but instead they've adapted themselves to the mainstream
00:36:35.700 because they want to be accepted by the mainstream um so we have a new party incoming uh and yeah it's a
00:36:43.460 new party so i can't say too much about them at this particular moment in time i might give a general
00:36:49.220 update in the coming months but they have uh they have more reasonable positions than the sweden democrats
00:36:55.620 because they're talking about you know expelling criminal uh immigrants etc so if you have
00:37:00.740 committed a crime while in sweden you will be sent back to your country of origin and a lot of really
00:37:07.220 really good solid reasonable positions um so um so yeah the sweden democrats has also opened up for more
00:37:15.140 more reasonable uh alternatives it's um it's like you say isn't it no matter how
00:37:22.500 how how a party starts out the goal of the party's politicians is to get in power because it's
00:37:29.540 literally their fucking job isn't it and so they will almost always sand off the edges and become
00:37:36.740 try and become mainstream kind of try and become uh accepted i mean we've seen this throughout human
00:37:42.500 history really i mean hell even the um the the split in the alt-right for example of the uh proper alt-right and
00:37:49.220 the alt-right lights movement essentially uh essentially happened became because of trump
00:37:54.580 and they became they became quote-unquote popular for a while and to become more popular they figured
00:38:01.380 they could um sand themselves down a little bit which how well that's worked out for them i'm not sure but
00:38:08.740 we'll see yeah yeah definitely uh and i mean i um i i kind of like the alt-right uh because uh and i mentioned
00:38:19.460 this before as well that the alt-right uh drives people to to people with deeper analysis of the situation
00:38:29.460 and now the reason i don't call myself alt-right is because i i started my own
00:38:34.980 metapolitical or metaphysical crusade before the term alt-right was popularized so i don't want to be
00:38:41.460 absorbed by um by some other teachings and then obviously there are a lot of people who refer to
00:38:47.060 themselves as alt-right who do not adhere to my own teachings so it's uh it's not that i want to distance
00:38:54.740 myself or that i want to disavow anyone it's just that i want to be solely responsible for my own
00:39:00.100 teachings for my own vision and for my own political beliefs uh but anyway back to the alt-right the way
00:39:08.100 i see it is that they are driving traffic to me for example uh so if um i know if if sargon or milo
00:39:18.420 has mentioned me in in a podcast or whatever people will oh who is this golden one and then
00:39:24.980 they might watch a video and get my perspective of things so i don't agree with this um animosity
00:39:33.220 people on um who who refer to themselves as a real right or whatever that they have to watch
00:39:39.940 alt-right because they're they're doing their job and everyone has the um has a part to play
00:39:46.020 yeah it's become kind of a blanket term it's uh it's the problem with our modern conversation about
00:39:53.620 politics defining things as right far right left far left because with the rise of the internet and
00:40:00.500 public discourse having become what it has become there are so many different positions and so many
00:40:05.780 so much more new ones than there ever was before yeah yeah definitely a lot of different um
00:40:13.220 um different labels uh and uh and of course it's uh convenient to to label everyone of certain general um
00:40:25.380 political thoughts as as one thing but uh yeah no it's uh the alt-right term it's um
00:40:35.300 yeah not something i'm overly comfortable with and i've said this from the start as well
00:40:38.980 even when the term was more popularized because i still wanted to maintain my own
00:40:44.420 how shall we call it intellectual freedom or i wanted to to be responsible for for my own take
00:40:50.900 on on the situation and that obviously differs from um from other people and it obviously depends on
00:40:58.340 what kind of nation you're in so my take on what is um achievable and doable in sweden is uh it's not
00:41:08.100 really translatable to the americas for example whereas the um like the general trends and the
00:41:16.340 general teachings are obviously very much applicable to american guys for example it's just that they
00:41:21.780 need to take the glorious pill in in their own unique context yeah because uh well i uh i don't know
00:41:30.980 if you watched it i had a talk with richard spencer a while ago and they essentially presented their idea
00:41:37.140 of the uh their their own elven ethno states in a far more extreme way i mean they have the 500
00:41:45.060 year plan that's going to require the collapse of america in its entirety and i'm just like okay
00:41:50.500 you do understand that the collapse of america is going to have some repercussions right it's uh
00:41:55.140 it's probably going to be horrible for everybody involved and as far as i know you're not arguing for
00:42:00.260 the uh the separation of sweden into individual smaller states uh i mean it depends on how it all
00:42:07.140 turns out uh there there is a real possibility if uh there becomes a large contingent of
00:42:16.180 non-europeans within europe uh i mean we've seen the same thing in in kosovo uh like kosovo was once a
00:42:23.860 serbian territory and then moved in a lot of albanians basically and then they declared the land for
00:42:30.660 themselves and it wouldn't be completely impossible uh for the same thing to happen in sweden like i
00:42:37.940 obviously don't hope that there will be separatism etc in sweden but uh it's not unheard of uh but
00:42:46.500 obviously like the ideal situation is not the collapse the ideal situation is that we can change
00:42:53.620 the way society thinks the way society works and solve this mess we're in in the most uh efficient
00:43:02.260 way possible and in the most humane way possible uh because yeah as we said before like revolutionary
00:43:08.820 revolutionary revolutions are messy um and another thing is that when change happens fast the it becomes
00:43:18.820 unstable if you want a solid change it takes usually more time so um so yeah uh what i'm aiming for is
00:43:29.780 as i said economic incentives because that's obviously how how we got into this position in the first place
00:43:37.300 they got here because uh because of economic incentives and they can leave by the same token
00:43:44.420 yeah possibly um i personally would probably question the effectiveness
00:43:49.700 i do definitely think that some people would leave unquestionably but at the same time
00:43:55.540 they know they've got it good here that's the problem our countries are nice countries
00:43:59.700 they are they're beautiful we've got good infrastructure we've got good social programs
00:44:03.700 a lot of people is probably going to look back at the third world and think to themselves yeah maybe
00:44:08.980 not i think this is also one of the reasons why we need to start helping more in those countries
00:44:14.260 because here's the thing if we send a million kroners to afghanistan we can build so much more
00:44:21.540 infrastructure so much more schools so much more fields and agriculture and help them so much more
00:44:27.140 there then we can hear we can i i saw um like an actual math piece on this where i think we could
00:44:34.180 help a hundred people in norway like you know settle them and for the same price we could help
00:44:39.860 10 000 people in their country of origins yeah that is a very good point and another point to um
00:44:48.740 to emphasize is the brain drain aspect like if the the very best of like imagine if the very best of a
00:44:56.260 certain middle eastern country comes to scandinavia then we have effectively robbed that nation of
00:45:02.980 competence that they desperately need so there is also a a moral argument against this sort of highly
00:45:09.940 skilled immigration uh brain drain a really good concept and something that we need to you start
00:45:16.820 questioning morally so what i would see is that definitely i have no problem with uh sweden or norway
00:45:24.500 helping those kind of uh kind of people i am all for that because it uh it can help them and it can
00:45:31.780 help us we can send down in engineers to uh we'll basically train themselves down there uh and and to
00:45:38.420 create a more stable society so i mean the um i have absolutely nothing against helping other peoples
00:45:44.420 um but yeah as you say it's it's about helping them in their own countries and not uh not in our countries
00:45:49.860 it's to me it's really an efficiency question like again because i i think we can integrate people
00:45:56.180 and i don't really mind integrating them because my values and yours are somewhat different there but
00:46:01.220 for me it really is an efficiency question i mean if we can help 10 000 people in syria or bring a
00:46:06.340 thousand people to norway i mean i'm gonna pick the 10 000 people this is a matter of expedience really
00:46:12.980 yeah yeah yeah definitely and it makes perfect sense as well to uh just with a logistic aspect of
00:46:19.540 it all that you can help more people in in their own uh in their own nations and another aspect here is
00:46:24.900 that the um very aggressive uh war machinery of uh say israel and the us they are partly to blame for
00:46:34.980 the instability of the middle east and if we're talking about the political i know sweden as a state
00:46:42.180 can't change what the united states or israel does but if we have politicians who are supportive of
00:46:49.860 nato for example that is obviously politicians that needs to be shamed they need to know that
00:46:55.220 the majority of swedish population do not stand behind nato and does not stand behind nato in
00:47:02.500 in this sort of warmongering in the middle east because i'm not saying that the middle east was good
00:47:07.380 before the all these wars started but it was a lot better than it is right now so uh i mean yeah
00:47:15.060 it's um it's also a matter of the uh the the wars there which which the western establishments have
00:47:22.980 supported to a large extent that's uh actually interesting that's the first point we can actually
00:47:28.420 agree with uh disagree with a little bit properly because i actually quite like nato um they're they're
00:47:33.620 warmongering stuff that they have done occasionally like in uh yugoslavia for example or what used to
00:47:38.820 be yugoslavia yeah i don't like that i think nato should be a purely defensive measure and i think
00:47:43.940 it is a necessary one because well america on one side russia on the other yeah well so you wouldn't
00:47:50.340 prefer a nordic defense union like sweden denmark norway finland and iceland i've actually uh i've
00:47:57.780 talked to a couple guys in the military about this and i actually really like the idea of a
00:48:02.420 scandinavian defense union where the countries take responsibility for different things uh where
00:48:08.500 for example one country pours a ton of money into um aerospace research uh creating better fighters
00:48:15.060 creating the best trained uh aerospace defense force etc another one pours a ton of money into
00:48:20.420 defense on the ground etc i actually really like the idea because us scandinavian countries we've
00:48:26.980 bickered a bunch in the past in fact denmark and sweden have been to war with each other more than
00:48:31.540 any other country yes we we hate each other historically yes but the cooperation our countries
00:48:38.820 have between each other really is unique almost in the entire world i mean the fact that i can
00:48:44.740 literally just cross the border from sweden to norway without anybody asking any questions is
00:48:50.020 and there's no problems i mean we're not with each other you know we're working together in a fairly
00:48:56.420 unique fashion yeah definitely we have uh we have good relationship i'd say uh in a lot of things like
00:49:02.580 both with norway or also with finland and nowadays also to a certain extent with denmark uh so yeah i i
00:49:10.020 would be absolutely for a um you know a tighter uh nordic sort of defense um defense mechanism but as i see
00:49:18.420 nato is uh i do not condone of american um foreign aggression at all i think the americas had a
00:49:26.660 reasonable foreign policy up until they entered the first world war like when they said you know what
00:49:32.980 we're dealing with our issues and we're not gonna be overly concerned with um intervening in um in the
00:49:40.580 world uh then obviously i i understand that they want that the american economy or indeed the world
00:49:48.260 economy is driven by oil so obviously they need to secure those sources and that's uh regrettable
00:49:53.780 but uh but that in in my humble opinion at least doesn't justify the the wars of aggression they've
00:49:59.700 undertaken in the middle east you know i i do agree um some of them like afghanistan i'm i'm kind of on
00:50:08.340 the fence about because after 9-11 i feel like it was a somewhat justified response but at the same
00:50:15.700 time iraq i really hated it's done far more harm than good in my opinion and just the general
00:50:22.100 meddling in the middle east has cost no end of grief for the rest of the world and uh i mean israel i
00:50:29.380 have a fair bit of sympathy for because they're literally surrounded by enemies and to survive in
00:50:34.580 that situation i do believe that a certain shall we say brutality on their part as a measure of
00:50:41.220 intimidation might be the best solution but it's a difficult question i really do think we probably
00:50:48.660 should just fuck off from the middle east and let them let them play with themselves for a while
00:50:54.420 yeah the uh i mean the israel question is uh very very interesting and obviously very infected
00:51:00.660 question as well and uh yeah it's a hot topic uh the i understand that israelis they are giving
00:51:07.460 everything for israel uh but what i don't like for in the american case for example a lot of american
00:51:14.500 taxpayers dollar goes towards israel uh like in foreign aid uh if i had been an american i would
00:51:21.940 not want that to be the case uh but then as for the israelis yeah i i kind of understand uh how they
00:51:30.500 feel then obviously i don't condone of everything they do they are quite uh draconian in the way they
00:51:36.100 treat the palestinians um so i don't endorse that but at the same time it's like it's a war
00:51:41.940 both sides hate each other it's one group of people uh against another group of people fighting for one
00:51:48.340 area of land and it's uh it's a hot um it's a mess so uh yeah but um yeah interesting question
00:51:54.900 you'll you'll see that in another 500 years uh palestine and israel will be just like us
00:52:00.180 oh yeah maybe if one doesn't eradicate the other that is but the foreign aid question is something
00:52:09.540 i i find it to be really interesting though because the american economy is not good i don't think
00:52:15.220 anyone will disagree with that and yet billions upon billions upon billions of dollars are being
00:52:21.300 poured out to other countries i'm like okay i am all for helping other countries in fact i think it is
00:52:28.180 a vital part of protecting the west by civilizing them it sounds horrible but we do need to civilize
00:52:34.420 them unfortunately but you have to be able to afford it if your country can't afford to spend
00:52:39.940 that money you shouldn't spend that money yeah definitely the the americas has um quite a few
00:52:49.700 problems to take care of themselves uh another thing with the american military and that they have so many
00:52:55.300 many people uh like military personnel stationed abroad is that uh it is a large industry it it
00:53:05.540 employs a lot of people it would have a profound effect upon the american economy if they were to
00:53:10.500 detract all of their soldiers and that's obviously a regrettable fact of economic life that that is the
00:53:17.300 question but uh the way i see it as i said like slow change is good change and rapid change is uh usually
00:53:27.220 bad uh but in the in the american situation what i would hope for is a a slow but steady withdrawal of
00:53:35.060 all other soldiers stationed in uh in the world so hopefully trump can withdraw from uh from syria now
00:53:43.140 uh we'll see how that turns out but uh but yeah yeah that'll be uh that'll be a thing is
00:53:49.620 i i i don't remember where i found this but i i think like the total military spending in like foreign countries
00:53:57.220 in the world uh america has like 40 percent of it which is insane the yeah yeah it is it is the
00:54:06.740 the the simple fact that they can ship abram's tanks to iraq but it's cheaper to leave them there than
00:54:14.580 it is to bring them back it's just like holy shit but yeah uh there there needs to be change in america i
00:54:24.020 the thing america is a strange country isn't it they've been heading towards these economic
00:54:29.700 abyss now for decades and they still don't seem to be aware of it and i'm just kind of baffled
00:54:35.540 yeah i'm actually reading a book by uh piero san giorgio it's called uh uh survive the economic
00:54:44.420 collapse and i haven't read all of it but uh so far it's really good and he talks a lot about uh
00:54:50.420 the global economy and also about the american economy because the the american economy is obviously
00:54:55.300 such a such a large part of the the global economy so it will be interesting and see how that um
00:55:02.420 how that all develops i might have to read that because that is an interesting subject
00:55:09.540 yeah definitely so uh yeah we've been uh going on for quite some time now i i see on the clock so this
00:55:17.300 this part of the the talk was a bit longer than the the one on on your channel but do you have
00:55:22.820 anything else you wanted to um to elaborate on or or talk about um i think as a final uh final word
00:55:30.740 i'll just say that it's it's really interesting to me and cool that you and i can disagree on things
00:55:36.500 and keep it really civil just talk about it friendly i think more people should be able to
00:55:42.420 have conversations like this really yeah no definitely and it uh absolute pleasure to
00:55:48.500 to have this sort of collaboration and uh and uh pleasure to have you on on the channel and and
00:55:54.020 definitely it's uh very important to to talk with each other because if you if you don't have the
00:56:01.380 exchange of ideas then uh there can be no enlightenment so i'm all for having a reasonable
00:56:07.140 discussion and and sharing perspectives and you you always learn something new when you talk with
00:56:11.940 with people who harbor different political ideas so uh so yeah definitely and there's uh there's
00:56:17.540 certainly things we could go uh deeper into because we've been fairly loose in this one you're
00:56:21.940 just talking about general values and ideas but i think that's a good uh good first step in the
00:56:27.780 conversation i think more people should do that just establish general stuff rather than really go
00:56:32.900 for the details immediately because i think it helps building a certain respect for both parties
00:56:39.460 yeah definitely definitely but yeah cool uh thank you very much for having me on all right thank you
00:56:45.300 very much so that was uh my conversation part two with uh my norwegian friend arch warhammer and the
00:56:54.340 first link in the description uh check out his channel uh also does great um lore videos on on warhammer
00:57:01.300 and i will also link his uh the first video of his i saw and it's about conrad curse so uh yeah check out
00:57:08.260 the links in the description