The Golden One - Astrology For Aspiring Mystics

00:00:00.960 we are live i can see it now all right good evening everyone welcome to another stream of

00:00:08.400 optimal enlightenment and wisdom warm welcome to our esteemed guest we're bringing in the expert

00:00:14.320 here talking about astrology so welcome philosophy cat thanks for having me so i will start off by

00:00:21.040 admitting something we actually did um a video was it two and a half years ago something like

00:00:26.720 that i interviewed you about astrology and i will admit that then i didn't understand all too much

00:00:33.440 i will say it now i am humbly admitting this fact that i didn't understand now it's been a yeah two

00:00:39.840 and a half years something like that and i have gained some different perspectives so i'm ready

00:00:44.640 to learn again and i hope all of our listeners will also be ready to learn so uh we're gonna

00:00:52.080 talk about later on in the episode something that i think most many uh high thumas guys are

00:00:59.120 interested in of course the what is going on with aries the the great ram that you see in the

00:01:05.600 thumbnail of this video but i'm gonna let you just explain in the simplest way for anyone who

00:01:13.520 doesn't understand how it works and i will just say as a you know before we begin that i believe

00:01:20.480 it does work you did a great reading i can definitely recommend getting a reading

00:01:24.720 by cat here and it was really really eye-opening and spot-on and everything like that and i'm not

00:01:30.720 the only one saying this as well and we can feel we can feel it the the movement of stars it's full

00:01:37.440 moon here i'm looking out the window it's full moon and that was sort of my first astrological

00:01:42.880 red pill if you could even call it astrological i don't know but anyway that what happens in the

00:01:47.040 heavens it can impact human behavior and thought and everything so i will just say that i am you

00:01:53.040 know that's why i want to have this conversation as well that i believe in the legitimacy of it so

00:01:57.920 now um over to you kat explain explain for novices and beginners how does it work why does it work

00:02:05.680 what to think about and yeah just take the floor please sure well thank you for the recommendation

00:02:11.040 and i'm glad to hear that you seem to be a believer now so um yeah i'm sure you've picked up

00:02:18.560 quite a few new audience members since we last spoke and i think the last time we talked the

00:02:24.240 way i explained it was maybe a little bit too deep into the metaphysical weeds i'm going to try to

00:02:30.480 approach it in a different way this time and hopefully uh it will land for people a little

00:02:36.000 bit better. If not, you know, just stop me at any point. You don't interrupt, ask questions. That's

00:02:41.060 fine. So in a nutshell, astrology is a sacred divinatory science. And by science, I don't mean

00:02:52.200 an empirical laboratory science, but it is a disciplined methodology. It has rules and

00:03:00.260 following those rules will make it replicable in the sense that skilled astrologers who are using

00:03:07.360 the same methodology will tend to converge on similar interpretations. So it's not magic. It

00:03:14.520 doesn't require psychic abilities. Anyone smart enough could learn this. Like if you can remember

00:03:20.000 the rules, you can think symbolically, you can notice and interpret the patterns, then you too

00:03:26.200 can learn to do astrology. But it does have a few beliefs that it is premised upon. And if you don't

00:03:34.960 accept these beliefs, then you might not believe in astrology by the end of this. But if you do

00:03:40.240 have a belief in an ordered cosmos, for example, that is a foundational belief of astrology. And

00:03:47.220 coinciding with that is something called the principle of correspondence. If you've read

00:03:53.920 Julius Evola, he talks about this very early on, I think in the foreword of Revolt Against

00:03:59.460 the Modern World. He starts talking about the principle of correspondence. And this is more

00:04:04.500 popularly known as that hermetic maxim, as above, so below. So we've got our higher ordered

00:04:11.900 metaphysical reality. That's the real reality. And then everything else in creation is a reflection

00:04:18.360 of that. So, like, this is essentially the ultimate divine pattern that we're talking

00:04:23.900 about here, right? It's the will of God. And everything in creation participates in this

00:04:30.600 divine vertical order, including our individual lives. So, that's what's meant fundamentally by

00:04:39.120 as above, so below. So, the principle of correspondence says that all levels of reality,

00:04:45.460 whether macro or micro, whether metaphysical or physical, they're all linked together. And that

00:04:51.520 divine pattern is mirrored analogically on every level. So traditionally speaking, lower physical

00:05:00.040 reality is thought to derive its existence from that higher metaphysical cause. Anybody who has

00:05:07.020 read any traditionalist type of work or perennial philosophy or ancient religious texts, like this

00:05:13.180 is a theme that always comes up. So that lower reality, it's a reflection of the higher,

00:05:18.880 albeit imperfect because of the limitations of time and space. But this principle of

00:05:25.640 correspondence, this as above, so below, that is the foundation for all true symbolism. It's what

00:05:32.580 allows for things in the physical cosmos to serve as indicators for higher transcendent truth. So

00:05:38.820 for instance, you know, astronomical movements or the cyclical change of the four seasons,

00:05:44.180 they correspond to certain metaphysical laws. And understanding that allows us to read those

00:05:51.940 physical realities as a symbolic language to understand metaphysical reality, to understand

00:05:58.480 what is the language that the gods are speaking? What is their will? What is the pattern?

00:06:03.200 So this next part is a belief that is somewhat debated, has been debated a lot, but I would

00:06:15.100 generally say that planets are omens. They are not causes. So this is a mistake that a lot of people

00:06:23.100 make. They think that the movements of the planets themselves cause events. And you'll hear this a

00:06:29.520 lot with people who are very new to astrology or who don't know anything about it, they'll say,

00:06:34.220 how could the gravity of a planet affect us? And it's not through gravity. It's not through

00:06:39.940 like energies or anything like that. They are participating through this principle of

00:06:46.860 correspondence. So think of the planets as omens, as these meaningful signs within the ordered

00:06:53.760 cosmos. So their movements participate in this divine pattern. And they do it more cleanly than

00:07:02.040 the average human life does. It's a lot easier to see the patterns with the planets. And so we can

00:07:07.480 look to what the planets are doing to see where the weave of the pattern is heading next. And

00:07:13.480 the planets are one of the ways through which that divine order can become legible to us.

00:07:19.680 And so each planet is associated with particular archetypal qualities. So when a particular planet makes a move, like whether it's moving into a new sign, it's moving into a configuration with another planet, it's changing direction, going retrograde or something, you know, we can determine which archetypal things are active, and in what manner they're active.

00:07:42.340 And so when it comes to predictive astrology, that's how it works.

00:07:47.100 The planets are kind of telling us, you know, which archetypal principle is speaking where

00:07:52.900 and with what modifiers on it.

00:07:55.940 So for example, we'll take Mars.

00:08:00.200 I think that's probably a planet that many people in your audience resonate with strongly.

00:08:06.440 Mars signifies conflict, heat, urgency, violence, severing.

00:08:12.340 Well, what happens if we put that together with Saturn, which signifies limits, restraints,

00:08:19.540 obstructions, delays? When they come together in the sky, you're going to get some combination

00:08:24.160 of those themes. So maybe you get really disciplined action. You get some hard training

00:08:29.980 in the gym. You get conflict that's maybe constrained by necessity, or you get frustration,

00:08:37.140 or maybe you have surgery under that transit like the list is endless but which yeah go ahead uh

00:08:44.500 no finish your thought and then i'm just gonna interject quickly sure so which specific outcome

00:08:49.640 that you would get is you're gonna modify that further by looking at the aspects they make to

00:08:54.680 each other like are they getting along or are they in conflict so some configurations make the

00:08:59.260 planets friendly to each other and some make them enemies what sign are they in how does that planet

00:09:04.180 tend to manifest within a given sign because some signs are going to amplify certain tendencies

00:09:10.200 of that archetypal cluster and suppress others. Mars loves to be in Aries, loves to be in Scorpio.

00:09:16.700 It can do its natural Mars things with ease in its own signs. It does really well in Capricorn

00:09:22.720 where it's exalted because Capricorn tends to suppress its bad qualities and bring out its good

00:09:27.280 ones. It does really poorly in the Venusian signs of Libra and Taurus and in the lunar sign of

00:09:32.340 cancer martial energy not so welcome there right so that's kind of how we'd interpret that okay so

00:09:40.180 so now i'm gonna ask a beginner question here so as i view it with my novice novice taker is that

00:09:50.180 if a certain planetary intelligence influences us i mean isn't that how it works though if a certain

00:09:57.300 planetary constellation brings about certain energies that influences humans i mean how

00:10:02.500 how can it work if it doesn't influence human behavior or thoughts or emotions that is a very

00:10:09.140 good question and that is a question that has been hotly debated by astrologers philosophers

00:10:15.700 theologians and so forth over the centuries because you're essentially talking about the

00:10:20.180 intersection of fate and free will so most people if you ask them they would say of course i have

00:10:28.100 free will i choose to do a number of things all throughout the day that's my own free will

00:10:34.260 wow do you really do you really um so the planets and the archetypal energies that they make active

00:10:43.300 they're showing us like these currents in time and we kind of tend to ride along with those if

00:10:50.100 you're like a low consciousness person you're not aware of this stuff you just kind of go through

00:10:55.620 life you might think that you're making free will choices when in actual fact you're just reacting

00:11:01.300 to currents that are broadly active within the cosmos you're being kind of carried along by them

00:11:07.540 but doesn't that mean that we are affected by the stars though yes we are affected by the

00:11:14.340 archetypal currents but we are not affected by their gravity or the fact or that they're not

00:11:19.460 like shooting beams at us or anything like that but in terms of the archetype being operative

00:11:28.820 if we're in like right now we're in a heavy aries period the mars energy is getting very active as

00:11:35.700 we've seen events recently you know saturn and neptune can join at that zero degree of aries and

00:11:42.100 boom we get a war and you know that's um did it did those planets and that and that archetypal sign

00:11:50.660 cause the war no it didn't cause it but it opened up a gateway to make that a possibility

00:11:59.540 so if we're in a period where like very peaceful signs are being emphasized you're probably not

00:12:05.140 going to see a big war when we are in a sign where that martial energy is is open and available um

00:12:12.900 is there always going to be a war not necessarily but the risk is much higher of the options

00:12:19.060 available to humanity to take that now becomes one of them so from me again my perspective it

00:12:26.820 sounds like if we have like war like uh high thumo signs like mars and areas in conjunction

00:12:34.180 or something like that it sounds like that planetary movement will influence humans so to

00:12:40.260 use a very very simple example if we have a constellation of a venus and a moon sign something

00:12:47.940 like that something more something softer i might not feel like going to the gym as much as i would

00:12:55.220 when um mars is in uh in not taurus uh areas of course we're talking about areas uh so i mean

00:13:04.900 as i understand it can they influence my emotions my thoughts how i operate in the world or how

00:13:10.740 exactly does it work like i understand that everyone has a free will will and i can go to

00:13:15.700 the gym even when the sort of venus signs are more um or you know to take the example of the moon

00:13:24.020 now it's full moon i did go to the gym i felt like it i always feel like going to the gym with full

00:13:28.660 moon i'm gonna go on the new moon as well if i have to but the the input i get from

00:13:35.540 some other place which in this case the moon or if we're talking about more broadly the stars i mean

00:13:42.180 for me for it to make sense it would be that the planets then influence emotions and thoughts

00:13:48.900 maybe areas makes us a bit more hot tempered or whatever what would you say to that so some of

00:13:55.940 that's going to depend where it's hitting in your birth chart so just a transit going through the

00:13:59.620 sky doesn't necessarily mean something to you unless it's impacting a part of your own natal

00:14:05.220 karma and kind of pressing on that um so in terms of whether or not you feel like going to the gym

00:14:11.460 gym, if you're having some helpful aspects to your natal Mars, like if you get a nice Jupiter

00:14:18.660 transit to your Mars, you're probably going to be feeling really good in the gym, making some good

00:14:23.400 gains, lifting really heavy, and just really feeling excited about it. Whereas, you know,

00:14:29.480 maybe you get a bit more of a soporific transit through your chart to something Neptunian,

00:14:35.440 something lunar or Venusian that just makes you say, you know what? I just feel like staying on

00:14:39.620 the couch and eating potato chips today. Everyone has those days, no matter how gym focused they

00:14:45.480 are. Sometimes you just have a day where you're like, I just need to chill. And so it can influence

00:14:52.580 you in the sense that these currents place a pressure on you that's going to tend to want to

00:14:58.460 tilt you one way or the other. Now, if you're very conscious of this, for example, we just had

00:15:04.820 mercury go retrograde on the 26th it's in pisces like it's the worst sign for mercury it's like it

00:15:11.000 just has this whole list of debilities mercury things not going well right now so i fully expect

00:15:18.060 some technical snafu to come up during this talk or or for people in the audience to just

00:15:23.820 misunderstand what we're saying or something like that but um did the planet cause it no but it

00:15:29.940 opens up the option for that to become possible. And based on the choices we're making, we may

00:15:36.700 narrow the focus onto a particular option. So if you have, you know, a hundred gates up at the top

00:15:42.800 open, and that's all the possibilities you could have for a given thing. And every choice you make

00:15:47.900 starts closing gates. So you're like, you're dropping a marble into it and it's got to make

00:15:51.700 its way kind of down the maze. And every time you make a choice, gates close or some open,

00:15:56.060 and it has to find its way through. And where it finally drops out in the bottom is the culmination

00:16:00.860 of all the different choices you make, right? Well, not every gate is open all the time. It

00:16:06.260 really depends what planet is going through and what your own natal temperament is, what your

00:16:13.100 level of consciousness is. So the more of a consciously aware person you are, the more you

00:16:18.940 have the ability to step back and be like, hey, I'm being grabbed by the planets. The Sanskrit

00:16:23.960 word for planets is grahas which means grab because they're not like they grab you and they

00:16:29.960 pull you along but once you're aware of that i can say to myself you know what it's mercury

00:16:35.820 retrograde i gotta be really careful so i made sure to get up extra early and test all my stuff

00:16:42.540 and make sure that it was working you know on any other day i might just say you know we'll wing it

00:16:47.760 it'll probably be fine not today let's call me superstitious but i've been burned by mercury too

00:16:54.000 many times when it's in retrograde right we're gonna get to mercury in retrograde because i've

00:16:59.200 heard that many times but we're gonna read the super chat here by ahab and he says my brother

00:17:04.720 is a taurus and i'm an aries i understand there is a total eclipse later in the year and a square

00:17:10.560 of it falls right around his birthday i'm worried something bad might happen to him around that time

00:17:15.680 what would you say to do that thank you for this super chat by the way ahab how would you interpret

00:17:21.760 such a thing so if he is a taurus the eclipses are indeed uh going to be in a square to his son

00:17:31.600 they will be in the aquarius and leo axis this year and so taurus and scorpio are at what's

00:17:38.560 what's called the bending of the nodes. And that is, the bending of the nodes is where the moon

00:17:48.240 is going to make its ascending or descending arc. Like it's, the nodes are where they make their

00:17:53.620 change, whether it's moving upwards towards the North Pole or moving down towards the South Pole.

00:17:57.920 And the bending of the nodes can be like kind of karmic tipping points sometimes. But unless

00:18:04.160 there's something directly impacting his son like say a aspect from a malefic planet at that time

00:18:13.360 um and and or if that house that it's in is active like by there's no number of timing techniques

00:18:21.360 like i would be looking at is he in an annual perfection year that's lighting up his taurus

00:18:26.640 house and making transits to that planet loud because not all parts of your chart are active

00:18:31.840 at all times. Not every transit is going to hit you as hard as you might initially think. You might

00:18:37.520 think that a transit's coming through and you're all nervous about it, and then it's a big nothing

00:18:42.740 burger. You're like, well, why is that? Well, that house wasn't active. Maybe some other house is

00:18:49.260 active, and that's where all the activity is for that given year. Or was that house emphasized in

00:18:55.500 his solar return chart? Is he in a zodiacal releasing period for Taurus? Because that's

00:19:00.920 going to tell us whether or not a transit to his son in taurus is going to be a big one like a

00:19:08.240 pivotal life changing kind of thing or if it's just going to be like just another day

00:19:12.980 so all right now i don't encourage astrological anxiety for that reason because there's so many

00:19:19.680 factors to take into it and most of the time transits are not as bad as people anticipate

00:19:24.500 them to be all right i i think we got ahead ourselves a little bit but i'm gonna say

00:19:30.540 something last a last note on on taurus i'm gonna skit so post a bit here so i conducted an

00:19:37.980 astrological experiment a few months ago and uh just you know talking to guys um whom i had you

00:19:46.700 know gotten a good impression of good friends and it was such an overwhelming majority i didn't count

00:19:52.780 the actual numbers but say it was like 60 70 percent well say 60 say two-thirds uh taurus

00:19:59.980 uh and my schizo theory here was that i have my sun in leo which is a fire sign and then we have

00:20:07.260 the cancer in moon a water sign and then we have libra as ascendant which is an air sign so i miss

00:20:13.900 the earth sign so maybe i want all of these taurus around me to keep me grounded what do you think of

00:20:19.180 that yeah i remember you asking me about taurus not that long ago and i wondered why

00:20:25.900 you were asking about that uh i do think you said you have a libra ascendant that's correct

00:20:31.820 and that is a venus ruled sign so it could just be that you have a natural affinity for other

00:20:37.020 venusian people um i like taurus as a sign i have to say i find tauruses often to be um they're

00:20:45.820 they're very sturdy grounded people um they know how to enjoy life most of the time uh you know

00:20:54.780 some of them can fall a little too much into the comforts of life but it is you know especially

00:21:00.460 when it's transcendently oriented it's one of my favorite signs evolo was a taurus um really i'm

00:21:06.300 not surprised i'm not surprised at all evil as well look all all taurus are me the leo and the

00:21:11.340 tower is and what sign are you capricorn capricorn okay cool yes i actually don't have many leos in

00:21:19.580 my life i have so many gemini's though and i'm like why have i been given this gemini curse

00:21:26.460 because you know you put a capricorn in a gemini in a room and the capricorn is going to get

00:21:30.700 frustrated first and gemini's are just they're just busy being happy chatty people and you know

00:21:36.460 i'm over there in the corner being serious and morose i i actually have a good few geminis as

00:21:42.540 well i talked to dave martell on the bog we talked about astrology because i wanted to talk to him as

00:21:47.900 well and he is a gemini and he said something this was his schizo take that he has he has noted that

00:21:54.460 some geminis they have a sort of uh dr jekyll and mr hyde personality that they can go from

00:22:01.100 you know happy to not so happy quite quickly is that something you would do you agree with that

00:22:06.300 take or is it just his observation that's gonna probably depend on the rest of their chart if

00:22:13.820 they've got some heaviness in their chart like you know maybe they've also got like a really heavy

00:22:19.580 saturn emphasis in their chart that might make them a little bit more prone to some of that

00:22:23.420 moodiness um if they've got planets that are generally in lighter signs you're not going to

00:22:29.180 to see as much of that so you kind of have to take the whole chart in context and look at what

00:22:34.360 it's doing um especially like where is mercury in their chart because that's also going to

00:22:39.300 that's the ruler of the sign so we want to know like what's that doing and that if they're a

00:22:45.120 gemini sun then they can either have a taurus gemini or cancer mercury um the cancer mercury

00:22:51.700 might tend a little bit more towards the moodiness but in general i think you know gemini is a really

00:22:58.440 fun sign but they do have you know they're the twins and it's a mutable sign it's or double

00:23:04.600 bodied is the other name for it and it's it hands over from one one type to another it's handing

00:23:12.280 over from a fixed sign to a cardinal sign all the mutable signs are are like this to some degree

00:23:17.800 they are inherently a little bit unstable of a sign which does not mean that gemini people are

00:23:24.040 unstable just the nature of the sign is to be a little bit changeable to be in flux a bit and

00:23:31.240 with gemini you know you're getting that um you're getting a sign that's in the springtime in the

00:23:39.260 northern hemisphere but it's about to hand over to the summer solstice in cancer and so the sun

00:23:46.660 is rising up rising up towards the tropic of cancer reaching up towards the pole star that

00:23:52.760 represents the transcendent ideal it's as high as the sun is going to get and right at the end of

00:23:58.120 the sign of gemini it turns around and starts dropping in the sky very quickly and so you get

00:24:03.240 this sense of reaching towards something as soon as you've got it setting it aside and turning in

00:24:07.160 a different direction and so gemini's do have this reputation for being um you know fickle or

00:24:16.120 having two sides to their personality or not being able to make up their mind or having lots

00:24:21.640 of different interests and not being able to stick with something for example now if you've

00:24:25.880 got their mercury and taurus they're probably going to be a little steadier because taurus is

00:24:29.560 a fixed earth sign if they've got mercury and gemini then you're really going to get some of that

00:24:35.560 rapid agile type of thinking and and more scatteredness all right okay we we went on a

00:24:44.120 very long tangent tangent there i'm sorry i interrupted you with some sort of question and

00:24:48.760 then we came i don't know where were we we were talking about astrology how how it works and you

00:24:54.440 talked about viewing it as different portals opening up and those portals lead to different

00:25:00.200 outcomes so yeah continue where where you were if you if you remember where uh um yeah i think i was

00:25:08.600 and i was giving an example about mars and saturn and just kind of giving some real like just giving

00:25:14.120 some examples to kind of ground it for people. Examples are good. Yeah. So like a recent real

00:25:18.800 life example, for like on February 17th, we had the solar eclipse, the first one in Aquarius for

00:25:25.060 this cycle. So eclipse cycles, they're about 18 months and they'll bounce back and forth between

00:25:30.740 two opposite signs. And they're like supercharged new moons and full moons. They're setting the

00:25:39.380 seeds for bigger stories to happen. So if you have any placements in your chart at the late degrees

00:25:47.460 of Aquarius, Leo, Taurus, or Scorpio, you know, this eclipse could have been impactful for you,

00:25:55.960 but it's a solar eclipse. What does the solar eclipse do? It's planting a new seed. And since

00:26:02.400 this is the first seed being planted, we don't necessarily know what it's going to grow into

00:26:07.820 right away. So on a personal level, it might take you through, you know, by March 3, when we get

00:26:13.900 the lunar eclipse, which will be the last lunar eclipse in Virgo. Actually, I think we might get

00:26:18.920 one more next year. The nodes are like in the process of changing signs, I'd have to check that

00:26:23.680 but or you might get it six months down the road when the next eclipse cycle comes through. Or

00:26:29.960 maybe the story takes the full 18 months to kind of blossom, but you might see like doors closing

00:26:35.100 so that another one can open. Solar eclipses have also been noted throughout history as

00:26:42.560 coinciding with the downfall or death of prominent people. And so on the mundane level of current

00:26:49.660 events, this eclipse cycle brought the death of Kemeni in Iran, as well as Jesse Jackson.

00:26:57.800 These are like solar people, they're leaders, right? And on a personal level, I've come to

00:27:03.400 expect an uptick on social media and seeing people announcing the deaths of their fathers or

00:27:08.640 grandfathers at this time? Because the sun is obscured during a solar eclipse. The moon is

00:27:14.480 covering it up. The luminary is going dark. The solar principle is going dark. So solar figures,

00:27:20.760 whether that's a dad, a religious figure, the leader of a country, they often may find that

00:27:26.840 their own light dims or is even snuffed out completely so bad news for me also then i suppose

00:27:34.300 well yeah i mean you do that eclipse would have uh been opposing your natal mars if i remember

00:27:46.420 your chart right just and it also opposed donald trump's natal mars so please don't go starting any

00:27:52.340 wars yeah i will try not to i'll try not to that's uh you know for him for trump that was uh

00:27:59.540 definitely a seeding point for i think what is going to be like this is not going to be

00:28:04.740 a short little event in the middle east this will i think culminate into something much bigger um

00:28:11.300 they have they've wanted their world war three for a while now so maybe they'll finally be getting it

00:28:16.660 yeah um so yeah we're gonna get to uh the uh the areas uh thing but uh to just lay the groundwork

00:28:27.620 for astrology i suppose you have you have debated skeptics uh those who believe astrology is just

00:28:34.980 complete nonsense what do you say to those people usually if you are if you want to give like the

00:28:39.700 argument for why we should listen to astrology well you know i generally don't like to get into

00:28:46.180 those kind of arguments because i feel like if if you need to be convinced to believe it then it

00:28:51.140 wasn't something you were that interested in in the first place um i'm much more interested in

00:28:56.420 answering good faith questions from people than trying to change people's minds and it does you

00:29:02.900 know it does kind of necessitate a belief in a higher order whether you call that god the universe

00:29:10.660 the source like whatever you want to call it the fact is it requires that you do believe there's

00:29:16.340 something beyond this physical reality so if you're an atheist it's going to be really hard

00:29:21.700 for me to kind of find common ground with somebody like that to bring them towards a place of even

00:29:26.980 understanding and appreciating how astrology works usually i would say to somebody like if you're

00:29:32.180 really skeptical go and get your own birth chart read and just see how well it resonates um if if

00:29:39.540 If you can, you know, it doesn't have to be me.

00:29:41.520 It could be anybody, any astrologer that you feel a resonance with and see what they can

00:29:48.060 do.

00:29:48.800 Now, I will say to that, because inevitably there will be some people in your audience

00:29:54.760 who do decide to go get a reading after hearing about this.

00:29:59.000 I hope it piques people's interest.

00:30:02.400 Astrology is a divinatory craft.

00:30:05.740 So what I generally don't like to have happen is when a client comes in and they want to

00:30:12.860 like test me or have me like do a party trick for them or something, because it's divination,

00:30:18.660 it works best grounded in context.

00:30:21.480 If somebody just gives me their birth information and doesn't want to tell me anything about

00:30:25.340 their life, that really limits me what I can tell them that's useful to them.

00:30:30.760 If I don't know what you do for a job, whether you're in a relationship, what your big

00:30:34.800 concerns in life are. What question do you want answered? It's always best to approach a chart

00:30:40.360 with a question because the symbolism is going to change depending on what kind of question you're

00:30:46.440 asking. So if you're asking, you know, what direction is my career going to go? And let's say

00:30:57.260 you've got cancer on the 10th house. I'm going to look at the moon and see what is the moon doing

00:31:04.220 in your chart in terms of where your career should go but maybe your question is actually about how

00:31:11.100 you get along with your mom well i have to look at the moon for that too and if i don't know which

00:31:15.980 of those questions i'm answering all i can really do then is kind of give you a really generic list

00:31:21.980 of what like it just flattens it into like giving personality traits almost um and there are types

00:31:29.660 of astrology that do focus more on that but i do you know the more traditional hellenistic

00:31:35.660 astrology which is very um life focused in terms of like what are your actual experiences in life

00:31:41.980 going to be and what are you meant to get out of those experiences like i love it when people come

00:31:47.420 into a reading and they are like what is my purpose in life what's my dharma what should i

00:31:52.860 be oriented towards that's a question astrology answers really well um but it can also answer

00:31:59.820 like the more mundane questions too like should i study this or should i study that well your chart

00:32:04.700 shows you have more of an aptitude and pathway to success for this one and it's not really

00:32:09.100 supportive of this other one so it can answer things like that too but in every case it's

00:32:14.540 grounded in a context it's grounded in a question that matters to the person asking

00:32:20.380 and if it doesn't matter to you it's just hard to like get the chart to return a good result even

00:32:27.700 with natal readings where it's kind of all there with a horary chart that's a different story

00:32:31.820 entirely that's very that's very much ask a question get an answer um and those can be really

00:32:38.360 fun to work with too but in terms of like if anybody wants to go and get like their very first

00:32:43.820 birth chart reading have a reason why you're doing it what is it you want to know about your

00:32:49.100 life why are you approaching the oracle in this way and and be prepared to have uh like a conversation

00:32:57.420 with the person who's reading your chart rather than just be like all right tell me about myself

00:33:02.380 and i'm not going to tell you anything i just want to see if you can get it right it's like

00:33:06.380 it's just not how astrology is practiced and you you won't get a very good reading doing that

00:33:13.740 all right so now we have i think it would be useful now you explained this very well to me

00:33:19.980 a while back uh about the so we all know the sort of main zodiac so like i'm a leo uh which is

00:33:28.380 obvious i should think i made a poll on telegram a few years back and i was like what guess my

00:33:34.460 zodiac and i thought everyone would of course guess i'm a leo but it wasn't like 50 it was

00:33:39.820 traumatic my dear telegram audience now you traumatized me guessing wrong complete madness

00:33:46.380 um but so we have you talked about you know the the main the sun sign the moon sign the ascendant

00:33:53.420 and all of these houses so how would you explain that to someone who's completely new and for me

00:33:58.300 as well of course i i listened to your very interesting reading you did for me so i'm a bit

00:34:03.260 familiar with the different houses could you explain that in a good way for anyone who's

00:34:08.460 completely new because i do believe at least many guys they you know start with only looking at the

00:34:13.980 sun sign maybe the moon sign maybe the ascendant but then we have you know um a whole um is it 12

00:34:21.340 houses how many houses yes 12 12 hours so so think of it like this the planets kind of represent

00:34:27.900 the archetypal principles the sign is going to be like the mode or style of how that principle

00:34:34.220 is able to express itself. Like what are the limitations, what's being suppressed or amplified

00:34:39.380 about that archetypal principle. And the houses are these concretized life topics where it shows

00:34:45.340 up. So you could say that you've got moon and cancer. What does that really mean? Well, you

00:34:53.640 could say certain things about what that means in terms of like how you might process emotions or

00:34:58.760 something like that. But in terms of how it actually shows up in your life, we need to know

00:35:02.600 what house it's falling in. And this is why birth time is critical to have because without the

00:35:07.160 birth time, we cannot assign the houses. We need to know what time you were born because that is

00:35:12.520 going to be what determines the house on the rising sign and then distributes the rest of

00:35:16.600 the houses all the way around. I could go on for ages and ages describing the mechanics of the

00:35:25.200 houses and what they all mean. That might be a little bit too much for the scope of this

00:35:28.920 conversation but you let me know where you want to go with that i mean as long as it's we have time

00:35:35.240 we have time but as long as it's you know beginner friendly enough so it makes sense for anyone who

00:35:41.040 who's completely unaware of of an astrological house so do do go ahead as deep as possible but

00:35:48.280 but yeah keep it somewhat understandable still okay so the first house is going to be the house

00:35:57.360 that is kind of all about you. It's your mecosystem. It's your health, your character,

00:36:03.400 your vitality, your personality, even your physical appearance. That's going to be described

00:36:08.180 by what is in the first house, if you have any planets there, or what the ruler of that house

00:36:14.340 is doing. And the ruler of that house is your ascendant ruler. That's a really important planet

00:36:18.820 in your chart. Maybe the most important planet for some people. That's going to be like the main

00:36:24.260 character in your chart. From there, you've got the second house. This is going to be your income,

00:36:30.960 your resources. I like to call it kind of like the house of standing on your own two feet.

00:36:36.160 And so you have this sense of, you know, it's what you go out to collect in the world that

00:36:42.740 you bring back to support yourself. So that might be a paycheck. It might be vegetables from your

00:36:47.480 garden. It might just be your own sense of self-esteem and confidence that you can function

00:36:52.160 in the world on your own. People with a lot of second house planets tend to really want to

00:36:56.980 figure out how they can do things in life without being dependent on other people. Like a lot of

00:37:02.160 second house sons, for example, are very interested in starting their own businesses and having

00:37:06.640 financial freedom. Depends on the nature of the sign and the rest of the house, but that is a

00:37:11.660 really common one. The third house is, you know, the low hanging fruit is to say like communication

00:37:19.280 and civic life, but I kind of have to define it relative to the ninth house, which is the house

00:37:26.340 of the higher mind, the house of God and abstract thinking. It's like that abstract stuff is

00:37:33.640 reflected down into materiality and it becomes like practical wisdom. So you can find like

00:37:39.920 elementary school, for example, would fall under the third house, whereas university would be the

00:37:44.560 ninth house type of thing, but it's kind of like, uh, the sort of stuff you learn, like your

00:37:49.900 grandfather teaches you to fish or your grandma teaches you the old family recipes or something

00:37:55.080 like that. Or, or maybe you're taking like the ninth house idea and you're turning it into the

00:38:00.400 PowerPoint that you use to get, to bring to everybody at your office meeting. So there's

00:38:05.720 this sense of translating ideas into something intelligible to other people that can kind of

00:38:11.920 be shared with the masses um sorry can i just interrupt it quickly so we're talking about

00:38:18.020 houses now and each house is ruled by a zodiac so you have your second house being ruled by

00:38:25.480 gemini or whatever it might be is that correct yeah so whatever house is assigned to the first

00:38:32.100 house so if you have um aquarius on the first house your second house is going to be pisces

00:38:39.360 your third house is going to be Aries your fourth house is going to be Taurus it'll go

00:38:43.260 around in zodiacal order if you have Scorpio on your first house then your second house is

00:38:48.820 Sagittarius your third house is Capricorn so in Hellenistic astrology we do not use the fake 12

00:38:55.920 letter alphabet that modern astrologers like to use that is made up it has no doctrinal basis and

00:39:01.520 we can give them a pass because they didn't used to know the meanings of the houses we didn't

00:39:06.940 actually have that information available to us until about the 90s when that first was found

00:39:12.000 and became translated so you know the modern astrologers were kind of having to like we knew

00:39:17.240 the meanings of the houses but they had to like reverse engineer it and so they started assigning

00:39:22.040 it things like well the first house is aries because aries is the first house and it would

00:39:27.540 just be like this circular reasoning but we have the doctrines now we don't need that it put it in

00:39:33.320 the bin where it belongs. Sorry to any modern astrologers, I may be offending, but it's Mercury

00:39:38.680 retrograde and I'm taking some liberties. Okay. So yeah, so then the fourth house would be your

00:39:45.820 home, family, property, your roots, your ancestry, the private foundations of life that support you,

00:39:51.960 things that other people don't necessarily see. So for example, if you have like really good

00:39:57.580 supportive parents, for example, that supports your foundation of life, but people that you

00:40:03.060 pass on the street don't necessarily know that about you the fifth house is sorry sorry to

00:40:09.980 interrupt could you just give an example of like a certain zodiac ruler how that would influence

00:40:15.560 the fourth house just an example of how it could look like on a person um sure can can i share my

00:40:22.880 screen perhaps uh i believe you can uh i think if you put a chart up it might just make it easier

00:40:29.680 for people to, where would I find that? Share screen. All right. Share. Well, I don't have

00:40:36.840 two monitors, so that's too bad. All right. I don't know if I should allow it. I guess

00:40:45.560 I have to click yes. Astro Gold. There we go. Can you see this screen? Is that displaying

00:40:59.260 for everybody this uh donald trump's birth chart here no i don't see um

00:41:11.340 so i have a screen layout here uh okay that might not work then let's see here

00:41:20.460 i can share a screen here from me but uh maybe not for you so it's next to our um

00:41:27.420 to our avatars. I'm sorry, everyone. It's saying it doesn't have permission to allow it to record

00:41:37.960 that or something. I'm getting like a lost permission to capture your screen and it's

00:41:43.880 telling me to go into my system preferences and unlock it, but then it's not there. So I'm not

00:41:52.080 really sure what to do because i've never done this before all right right oh well oh well uh

00:41:57.460 you said something in the beginning that it was wasn't mercury retrograde that we would

00:42:02.060 encounter some sort of technical uh technical live boomer tech moment we're two boomers sorry

00:42:09.520 everyone like well and that's one thing i couldn't really test beforehand either and i wasn't even

00:42:14.180 sure if we'd use it. But okay, so to give an example, Donald Trump is a, he's a Leo rising,

00:42:23.120 that means he's got Scorpio on his fourth house, that's his home and family. Well, the ruler of

00:42:28.300 that is Mars. And we find Mars in his first house. So that Trump name, that legacy becomes a big part

00:42:36.440 of his identity. And so that's one way that you see that playing out in a really loud way for him.

00:42:44.180 You also can like he's he's not just inherited the name. He's continued to build on the brand. Arguably, he's probably the most famous of the Trumps. Right. He's he's really amplified that to a great degree.

00:42:59.900 and family is very important to him too. Like he genuinely seems to care about his,

00:43:07.260 his whole family. So that's kind of one like very simplistic way of, of looking at that and how that

00:43:14.020 manifests. And if anybody kind of wants to look at his chart, you can go on the Astro data bank

00:43:18.560 and just find Donald Trump's chart and pull it up with the whole sign houses. If you pull it up

00:43:25.020 with any other house system, you're going to get a completely different chart than what I'm looking

00:43:28.200 at. And I use whole sign houses because they're just correct. Um, so, so the ruler of the house

00:43:37.120 makes, uh, that's like the governor of that, that sphere of life. So for, if you've got Scorpio in

00:43:45.880 the fourth house, Mars is in charge of administering the affairs of your home, family, and

00:43:51.960 property trump's a property mogul like that's what he really became known for was his property

00:43:58.680 his real estate stuff and so that feeds into like this big uh performative dramatic leo persona that

00:44:09.720 he puts forth to the world and and you really see those fourth house themes coming through

00:44:14.440 very strongly in his life story so just to interject with a question uh how you are perceived

00:44:24.680 by the world by others if you have um is one the main sign as leo and then you have all of the

00:44:32.820 other houses and signs there are something that is not particularly solar not particularly fiery

00:44:38.040 not particularly leo which will sort of win out will it be the other houses or will it still be

00:44:43.700 will it still be a noticeable Leo in some way, how people perceive you?

00:44:50.240 That is going to depend on the overall construction of the chart.

00:44:54.740 So if you have a Leo rising, a lot of people expect like,

00:44:58.020 oh, Leo should be like really flamboyant and putting themselves out there.

00:45:02.820 I've met a lot of really shy Leos.

00:45:05.640 Well, often is the case that their sun is in one of the dark houses,

00:45:10.420 either um two six eight or twelve these houses are said to be in aversion to the ascendant they

00:45:17.700 can't see the helm of the ship and so they're in like the kind of these blind spot areas of the

00:45:22.500 of the chart um sometimes you're going to have a hard time getting that solar light to really

00:45:27.820 shine through in a big noticeable way um especially if you had like a you know a leo

00:45:33.840 rising with sun and cancer they're going to have their sun in the 12th house they might really

00:45:39.240 prefer to be backstage and hidden. They might still have like, because it's not about so much

00:45:45.480 as like, do they have the stereotypic Leo personality? It's going to be more about like,

00:45:51.400 what is that rising sign trying to do in terms of developing their character? Like when I read a

00:45:58.400 chart, I like to do it in kind of like, um, like I try to create almost a narrative story for the

00:46:04.560 person so that they really understand the full context of their life. So the sun is the plot

00:46:08.800 line. The moon is the setting. The ascendant ruler is the main character. And that main character

00:46:14.920 in any story, you've got the plot line running and that's doing something, but you've also got

00:46:21.500 the main character growing and developing in a specific way as the plot goes. Now for a Leo

00:46:27.360 rising, their ascendant ruler is the sun. So their plot line is necessarily going to be kind of

00:46:33.040 self-focused. And Leo is the sign that it's coming towards, it's in the middle of summer,

00:46:40.480 but we've passed the summer solstice and the light is just starting to wane. It's still dominant. The

00:46:46.460 days are still longer than they are shorter, but you're getting that impermanence starting to creep

00:46:53.100 in. And Leo as a sign is very aware of this. And so it thinks to itself, well, how can I shine

00:47:00.080 forever? How can I be a star that's eternal? What do I need to do to create a legacy? And of course,

00:47:06.740 the shadow side of that is the temptation towards vainglory, or just seeking popularity, for

00:47:12.780 example. But if the person has their son in one of these darker houses, like let's say the 12th

00:47:19.760 house, they have their son in cancer, they're not probably going to be seeking that legacy building

00:47:25.440 through very public ways they're going to probably be doing it more privately and kind of the task

00:47:32.460 for the leo rising is to figure out like well how do i build something that's lasting but still

00:47:39.680 authentically true to myself because leo it they want to be authentic but there's always the

00:47:47.740 temptation towards applause and the confusing of applause for authenticity and so what you see with

00:47:53.660 a lot of Leo Risings is they do the thing in life that they think is going to make them happy,

00:48:00.140 or they think will get them approval, or the applause, the popularity, only to kind of come

00:48:05.560 to this realization, often under an eclipse or some other heavy transit, because they're like,

00:48:10.540 you know what, I'm just not happy doing this. This just isn't me. I did this because I thought it

00:48:15.980 would get me accolades, but it's not really coming from my own heart. And then they'll often pivot

00:48:21.360 and go chase whatever their real dream is and every sign kind of has that that archetypal way

00:48:28.720 of sort of working on the character of the person so every rising sign will have its own set of

00:48:34.640 themes that the the main character has to try to work through in life

00:48:39.200 hmm all right interesting um okay so the houses it's mainly about the the constellation which

00:48:52.800 which houses influences which other houses um okay yeah continue with the we were on the

00:49:00.720 fifth house yes the fifth house is probably one of the funnest houses in a chart because

00:49:06.960 it is the house of fun it is pleasure joy leisure activities uh romance and sex children it is um

00:49:17.840 you often see placements in the fifth house for people who are interested in the arts for example

00:49:24.240 they there's a sense that they they want to make something and the fifth house is one of the dharma

00:49:30.880 houses so along with the first and the ninth because there's this sense of that personal

00:49:36.000 expression that can kind of come through with the fifth house sometimes but generally speaking this

00:49:40.880 is the place of life where you have you enjoy the good things um unless you have like a capricorn or

00:49:48.800 aquarius on your fifth house in which case it's ruled by saturn and then it may be more of a case

00:49:54.400 of i don't feel like i can have fun because i feel guilty that i'm not being productive

00:49:59.680 or all my hobbies have to actually be my work so it depends on what sign is ruling the house

00:50:07.840 um to take our example with trump he has um sagittarius on his fifth house so every leo

00:50:14.800 rising will have a sagittarius fifth house and that's usually a pretty fun house to have on the

00:50:21.360 fifth it's a jupiter ruled house so it really offers a lot of um expansive opportunities for

00:50:28.000 enjoyment of life which you do definitely see with trump he has his moon in the fifth house so

00:50:32.960 his setting of life is very sagittarius fifth house toned in the sense that he lives this very

00:50:39.120 opulent lifestyle he jet sets around the world everything is big and luxurious and it provides

00:50:47.520 a lot of opportunities for him in life that kind of sets him up to do the other things that he does

00:50:55.680 but because he was born on an eclipse and his moon is next to the south node i would imagine

00:51:00.840 for him there's probably a sense of yeah i have a lot of good stuff in my life it's all like very

00:51:06.380 rich and elite stuff but it just doesn't fulfill me i feel like i've done i feel like i've done it

00:51:11.520 and i'm done with it um so you can kind of get that sometimes with the south node in a house

00:51:16.820 and then from there you go to the sixth house which is probably one of the least pleasant

00:51:22.240 houses in the chart. Um, this is going to be the house of like the daily grind, your daily routines.

00:51:29.240 So it can be like your day job. You go to work. It's not really your vocational calling, but you

00:51:35.300 show up every day. It's your gym routine. It's, it's all of your health routines. It's also the

00:51:41.060 place that shows where you get sick and injured. Um, there's, you will also see a lot of sixth

00:51:48.080 house placements sometimes in people who are activists, right? Because this is kind of a house

00:51:53.260 where the planets in that house are like, they're trying to get to the place of rest of the seventh

00:51:57.500 house, but they're not able to move there easily. And if you can't get to a place of peace, you're

00:52:02.920 just kind of left with the fight. And so there's a sense of kind of having to endure things in the

00:52:09.380 sixth house. Oftentimes you will see sixth house placements for people who are really serious about

00:52:16.300 their health routines or about their gym routines um or the ruler of the sixth house is in some way

00:52:24.580 well placed to suggest that uh so but in general it is a house of difficulty and toil it's also

00:52:35.020 where your pets will show up too so transits to the sixth house can sometimes have things to do

00:52:39.400 with pets if you have those and then you get to the seventh house this is before we get to the

00:52:45.760 seventh house could you just give an example of what would be a good ruler to have i understand

00:52:50.640 it depends massively on uh on context and the you know connection with other houses but what would

00:52:58.080 be like if you have this is a good ruler of this house overall what would you say there any planet

00:53:04.400 can be a good ruler of a house the the the planet that's ruling a house does not determine whether

00:53:10.640 or not you get good or bad fortune in that house, it matters where that planet is placed. So let's

00:53:17.780 say to take our Leo rising example, you'd have Capricorn on the sixth house. Where's your Saturn?

00:53:24.260 If it's in Aries in the sign of its fall, you might be looking at dealing with more illnesses

00:53:30.100 and injuries than the average person. But if it's in a sign that it really likes, Libra, for example,

00:53:38.120 Saturn is exalted in Libra, you might be really into like the aesthetics of bodybuilding, for

00:53:44.800 example, because Libra is a Venus ruled sign. And it's all about like, you might be really

00:53:49.280 interested in like, what's the perfect balanced physique to have? How do I look like the Greek

00:53:53.980 God? So it's, and it's going to depend, like, are there other planets aspecting this that are

00:53:59.940 helping or hurting it? So any planet can be a good or bad ruler of a house, even a benefic

00:54:06.280 planet like jupiter or venus could be a bad ruler of a house if it's maltreated somewhere else in

00:54:11.100 the chart so this is why it's important to look at the whole chart as a context because um it's

00:54:18.580 not just about the signs or the planets it's about where are they located and how do they interact

00:54:23.520 there's many many different factors that kind of go into determining that um so then if you

00:54:32.460 if you move then to the seventh house, that's the opposite of the first house. And we've now

00:54:36.880 gone halfway around the Zodiac. And the seventh house is the house of we. If the first is me,

00:54:44.620 the seventh is we, the place of the other. So for example, that for most people, that's going to be

00:54:52.180 like their house of marriage, the person they marry, their spouse, their long-term relationships.

00:54:57.580 but it can also be the house of one's open enemies. Donald Trump's had that solar eclipse

00:55:06.040 in his seventh house, the house of the rival. And so he went out and he found an enemy.

00:55:14.600 If you have, you know, planets in this house are going to kind of testify to the types of

00:55:19.480 relationships you have, those one-on-one relationships, but it doesn't have to be

00:55:23.800 limited to just like lovers and enemies. It can also be any one-on-one relationship. So

00:55:29.660 the conversations I have with my clients are seventh house conversations because it's just

00:55:36.380 the two of us. If you have a business partner, that's a seventh house relationship if it's just

00:55:42.560 the two of you. So any kind of one-on-one interaction kind of falls broadly into the

00:55:48.420 seventh house um and that's usually going to be a pretty loud house in most people's charts

00:55:54.380 and you're like tell me about who i'm going to marry will i ever get married right i'm going

00:56:01.300 to be looking at well what's going on with this person's seventh house what's the ruler of the

00:56:05.000 seventh house doing in this chart when are we going to get a helpful transit to that ruler or

00:56:09.420 to this house that might open up that possibility for love to come in so question here when we're

00:56:16.920 talking about relationships is there a better sign I know you just responded to this but

00:56:22.920 to just again my novice taker can you have a sign in that house that makes you better at

00:56:30.620 communicating I know for example that Libras are usually good at communicating like very broadly

00:56:36.700 speaking is there such a thing that if you want to be as good of a communicator as possible

00:56:41.580 do you have a specific sign or zodiac in your uh your seventh house um mercury ruled signs on that

00:56:51.800 house can be helpful but i i would probably rather just see mercury itself in the seventh house for

00:56:57.460 somebody who's really focused on the communication within relationships of course that's going to

00:57:02.740 depend somewhat on the other person too and how capable and willing they are to do that and what

00:57:08.200 their chart says about how they communicate. So if I was like doing a reading for a couple,

00:57:13.980 for example, that's going to be one of the key things I'm looking at, like how well do these

00:57:18.000 two people talk each other's language? And, you know, you are going to find some people have

00:57:25.060 signatures that make them more chatty, that more tight lipped, some whose minds think really

00:57:30.800 quickly, whereas other people need, you know, more time to process. And so it's, you know,

00:57:36.580 that's going to be less about one person's chart and more about do the two charts talk to each

00:57:44.660 other in a way that is relatively compatible. So for example, somebody with Mercury in Sagittarius

00:57:54.280 and someone with Mercury in Cancer are probably going to have a bit of a hard time communicating

00:58:01.140 because they're, they're talking in very different ways. Like Mercury and Sagittarius very much has

00:58:07.380 foot in mouth disease and can say things that they didn't necessarily mean it to come out that

00:58:14.420 it sounded nicer in my head, right? Meanwhile, Mercury and Cancer is very feelings focused,

00:58:20.880 much more careful and soft with their words and thinking about how their words impact

00:58:25.460 other people's emotions. And so you've got one person who's speaking in a very sensitive way

00:58:30.960 another person who's speaking in a very brash way could you bridge that gap yeah sure with some work

00:58:36.640 probably uh depends also what else might be going on in their charts but generally speaking you know

00:58:42.720 you want to kind of be looking for somebody who has a communication style that you just you're not

00:58:49.040 rubbing each other the wrong way all the time and and causing needless friction or hurt feelings

00:58:53.920 um so you're saying this house is communication between two different people so it's not one

00:59:02.000 person being able to communicate effectively to a group or an audience or something like that

00:59:07.920 correct so this is more about just the the bond between two people what is the nature

00:59:13.440 of the relationship and that goes beyond just communication um so for example you know to

00:59:20.800 to stick with our Leo rising example, they'd have Aquarius on the seventh house. Not uncommon to see

00:59:26.400 people with Saturn ruled signs on their seventh house, have long periods of being single,

00:59:32.300 waiting until later in life before they find the right person, or on the flip side, having

00:59:37.700 very long-term committed enduring relationships. Because Saturn is both the endurance over the

00:59:44.380 long-term as well as the delays and the obstacles. So it can be like one or the other, and the

00:59:49.440 question is going to be like, what's Saturn doing in this person's chart that's going to

00:59:53.600 testify to this natal karma and what particular outcome they might get.

01:00:00.600 So, and then from there, we have the eighth house. This is another very challenging house.

01:00:09.400 Probably, I would say the eighth and the twelfth are the most difficult houses for people,

01:00:14.400 just from lived experience. This is the house where you come up against forces that are bigger

01:00:20.860 than yourself, things that take you outside of your own agency. So you'll often hear the eighth

01:00:27.360 house described as, you know, shared resources with other people. You share a bank account with

01:00:32.740 somebody else you cannot control if they drain the account or put their lottery savings into it,

01:00:37.720 right? Like you, you're at their mercy to some extent. It's like the intimate bonds with other

01:00:43.600 people, the emotional entanglements, because when you're in a relationship with somebody,

01:00:48.100 you can't control how the other person shows up. They have the power to hurt you and to play with

01:00:52.900 your heart, right? And you take the risk. And so the eighth house deals with questions of like

01:00:58.560 anxiety and that psychological undertow that comes with this sense of like, there are parts

01:01:04.540 of my life that I cannot control. And people with eighth house placements usually have to reckon

01:01:09.400 with that kind of question in a very big way. And, and usually not in ways that are very fun.

01:01:18.120 So I want to say, Emma Watson has an eighth house son, if I remember correctly. And she gets a lot

01:01:27.180 of crap online for being in like her mid 30s, not married, doesn't appear to be interested in

01:01:33.600 getting married. And I saw her say in an interview at one time that she's terrified of choosing the

01:01:38.520 wrong person. She doesn't want to get married to the wrong person because it's such a big

01:01:43.940 decision. And I'm like, ah, there's that eighth house coming through for her. That fear of what

01:01:49.320 it means to be in a relationship, to be vulnerable with someone else, to experience that intimacy

01:01:54.760 and to know that this other person now has control over a sphere of your life. And you have to kind

01:02:01.380 of relinquish that. And so some eighth housers go through life just gripping the steering wheel

01:02:06.540 with white knuckles and they have to learn that actually that's not the way to deal with the eighth

01:02:10.720 house you actually have to learn like radical detachment and equanimity and just learn to go

01:02:16.040 with the flow and that's a really hard lesson for anyone to learn yeah so are there rulers of the

01:02:25.040 eighth house that are like make you more anxious and some that make you less anxious is there any

01:02:31.800 better or worse here it depends on what kind of anxiety we're talking about like i mean i have

01:02:38.600 seen certainly like virgo on the eighth house where that overthinking kind of ruminating worry

01:02:44.240 becomes something in the forefront depending you know like let's assume they have like their sun

01:02:49.860 or moon or ascendant ruler there um that can certainly exacerbate it again it really depends

01:02:57.820 on what the ruler of that house is doing and whether or not the planets in that house are

01:03:01.580 getting any help at all. Is there a through line to something else in the chart that could

01:03:06.160 support this? Is there something in the chart that allows you to sort of transmute that poison

01:03:12.300 into medicine? And a lot of times, yes, but sometimes not. So, you know, it's always a

01:03:20.220 question of what is the story the whole chart is telling because everything in it is interconnected

01:03:24.960 through aspects or through rulership chains. And then from there, we get one of the more pleasant

01:03:32.200 houses, which is the ninth house. I have to say that's one of my favorite houses. And that is,

01:03:38.460 as I said before, that's like the abstract higher mind stuff. It's religion, it's philosophy,

01:03:43.900 it's higher education, it's foreign travel. It's anything that expands your horizons.

01:03:49.540 and i would imagine most people in your audience are the type of people who like to expand their

01:03:55.560 horizons so that's probably going to be a popular house amongst your audience many of them probably

01:04:01.320 have ninth house placements or a prominent ninth ninth house ruler in their chart i would imagine

01:04:06.140 um that's generally uh you know we said before evola had uh taurus son it's taurus in the ninth

01:04:16.020 house. So you see that focus for Julius Evola where his life...

01:04:21.820 Oh, sorry. So he doesn't have that as his main zodiac. I thought you meant he was a

01:04:27.040 Taurus. I mean, he was born in May.

01:04:28.980 He's born in May. So he's a Taurus sun and it falls in the ninth house. So that's going

01:04:34.140 to run his plot line right through that ninth house field of the higher mind. No wonder

01:04:39.860 he's so interested in the transcendent question, right? Especially like as a Taurus.

01:04:46.020 I just feel like Taurus gets such a bad rap for being like a hedonist and only caring about like

01:04:51.220 the comfortable sensual life. And they can be that way. But I will say when the transcendent

01:04:56.520 question comes into view, there is no one who works harder than the Taurus because the Taurus

01:05:00.660 is all about, gee, that's really nice. How can I get more of that? How can I maintain that and make

01:05:05.980 sure it never goes away? And when that's oriented towards the transcendent, they are really

01:05:09.760 spiritually ambitious people so that's um it's part of i think one of the reasons i like taurus

01:05:17.280 because most of obviously people i know are transcendently oriented and so most of the

01:05:21.600 tauruses i've known are transcendently oriented and they get that um that much higher aspect to

01:05:27.360 it they may still of course love a good bubble bath on a friday night nothing wrong with that but

01:05:32.480 it. Yeah. And then, so from there you get the 10th house and this is like the ARTA house,

01:05:39.580 the vocation. What's your calling? For a lot of people, this ends up being their career,

01:05:44.680 but not everybody's ARTA and vocational calling is paid work. So I think that's something really

01:05:54.640 important to consider when looking at the 10th house in your own chart. It may be speaking to

01:06:00.380 something else that you become publicly known for that isn't your job. Your job could just be

01:06:07.580 testified to by the sixth house. Maybe you're a mailman during the day and nobody really knows

01:06:13.560 who you are, but on the weekends you play rock concerts at like at a local venue and you have a

01:06:20.740 huge little niche fan base there and they all love you and you're known as the rock star on the

01:06:26.200 Friday night gig, right? Nobody has any idea that you're a mailman the other five days of the week.

01:06:31.540 So that could be more like your 10th house thing. But you will, of course, often see it as career

01:06:37.880 for people, especially people who are on a career track that is more high-powered careers that tend

01:06:48.000 to require a lot of life investment into them, where it's like their whole life, they're really

01:06:54.480 focused on building this career, that will almost always show up in the 10th house, not the sixth.

01:07:01.280 And then from there, you've got the 11th house, which is friends, groups, and allies, as well as

01:07:06.580 long-term goals and aspirations. That can be a fun house sometimes too, especially if you're a more

01:07:13.360 social person. So you, with the Libra rising, you've got your Leo in the 11th house. You're

01:07:19.660 going to have that big focus in life on these social networks, the people that gather around

01:07:26.700 you, people who support you, who are patrons of what you do, who are friends and helpers.

01:07:33.760 And with that solar Leo sun there, it's like, all right, your plot line is like, how can I be a

01:07:38.640 leader to these people? How can I be a good steward of the people around me? And you have

01:07:48.000 built up like a big audience. You have a lot of people who love you, who support your work,

01:07:52.600 and who want to see you succeed. And so you've got that really nice 11th house story playing out

01:07:57.000 there. And then the last one is the 12th house, which is the other really difficult house.

01:08:04.020 This is another house that tends to kind of pull one away from their own sense of agency.

01:08:09.800 But unlike the 8th house, where it's like you're kind of caught in a current that you're swimming

01:08:14.040 against. The 12th house is more like, oh, I was at the, I was at the helm of the ship and something

01:08:21.160 has pulled me away and is preventing me from getting back to it, but that's where I need to be.

01:08:25.300 And so the 12th house, I have to say can be like, if you have a 12th house son, I would say for most

01:08:32.860 12th house people, they tend to feel like their plot line is one of, it's more about the journey

01:08:39.240 than the destination, or they're wandering around not sure what they should be doing in life.

01:08:45.060 Everyone else seems to have a purpose. Why don't I? It's very hard to find because the 12th house

01:08:50.880 is dark. It deals with hidden things, secretive things, things in the background. It also deals

01:08:58.820 with confinement or isolation. Saturn takes its joy in this house. So that tells you what you need

01:09:05.280 know you might even uh find people who go to prison with 12th house placements prison is the

01:09:10.000 12th house there's a sense of kind of just being a bit alone in the world in some ways and also in

01:09:18.240 the 12th house is self-undoing the ways in which you self-sabotage or also your hidden enemies

01:09:26.000 of which yourself can be one um but people you don't necessarily know are working against you

01:09:31.440 because they're in the background they're in the shadows and so that can be a difficult house to

01:09:37.440 navigate just because it's almost like you're fumbling around blind and it's just kind of hard

01:09:41.440 to find your way through it so is the 12th house is it only bad it sounds like a quite bad place

01:09:47.840 to be or is there any like silver lining to it or is there anything positive to be there can be

01:09:53.040 positive things even in the bad houses and there can be negative things even in the good houses

01:09:57.520 like the fifth house, as I said, sounds like a really fun house. You can sometimes see like

01:10:01.700 gambling addiction, alcohol addiction in the fifth house. People take the fun too far, right? If it's

01:10:06.700 too much fun, whereas the 12th house can be really nice for some people. For example, if you are a

01:10:13.580 spiritual seeker, you might want some of that 12th house solitude. You might want to go be a little

01:10:18.960 hermit on the mountaintop, which would be a very 12th housey kind of thing to do. Or maybe you go

01:10:24.520 to prison and it sucks, but you learn to meditate there and you turn your life around because of the

01:10:29.560 confinement and the isolation that you have there. So there can certainly be ways in which you can

01:10:36.900 turn those bad houses around into something good or that something good comes out of it, especially

01:10:43.140 if you've got like benefics in those houses. Oftentimes they can bring good things through

01:10:47.800 challenge and difficulty. So it's, again, very, very chart dependent, very personal to each

01:10:55.280 person. But certainly, there are ways in which there can be saving graces for these houses.

01:11:04.460 Now, what you will tend to find, though, is when there's an emphasis on any given house in a chart,

01:11:10.100 it's those houses where the recurring themes start coming up over and over again. So if you've got

01:11:16.540 12th house, maybe you're dealing with alcoholism and you've been through Alcoholics Anonymous,

01:11:22.380 but you fall back into it and then you go back to Alcoholics Anonymous. And it's this process

01:11:28.140 of kind of having to fight those inner demons, those ways in which you self-sabotage. And that

01:11:35.040 theme of self-sabotage maybe comes up over and over again. And so once you kick the alcohol

01:11:39.680 habit for good, maybe you find it now coming up in a different way. Like let's say you've got Venus

01:11:44.780 in the 12th house maybe the relationships you get into are not healthy relationships for you

01:11:49.820 but there's a way in which through those relationships you learn something about yourself

01:11:56.060 all right so to conclude the houses to understand someone astrologically speaking you need the the

01:12:03.420 entire like house placement you cannot only say what how much can you say if you only know like

01:12:09.820 the sun ascendant and moon sign how much can i say about the person you could give a few basic

01:12:15.740 personality traits you can say oh you've got your son in gemini i guess you must be a really chatty

01:12:25.580 person with lots of varied interests and but like for most people that's not going to land

01:12:31.260 because it doesn't connect to anything in their real life and if they have other chart placements

01:12:36.220 that counteract that um you know a gemini in the ninth house is going to be very different

01:12:44.140 than a gemini in the seventh house or in the first house so if i said that there is a man who has

01:12:53.340 like uh he is um sun sign libra an ascendant libra and then moon sign leo or maybe leo was

01:13:01.280 ascendant would you say that is a good would you guess that he is like a leader and he's a good

01:13:06.800 communicator there is actually such a person i will not say who it is but many many would

01:13:11.680 would know who it is so it's libra rising uh i think it's the libra is the sun sign

01:13:20.160 so yeah that's rising of course yeah uh then ascendant was leo and moon was leo i think it

01:13:27.280 was two leos and then the main sign was libra and when he told me i was like yeah that that suits

01:13:32.720 you okay so sun and libra moon and rising are leo yeah something like that so there were two moon

01:13:39.760 two so would he be a good leader is your question it's like would you based on that information

01:13:45.920 would you guess that he would be uh in a leadership position and being a good communicator because he

01:13:51.840 is he is in a leadership position and he's very good at communicating so without seeing the rest

01:13:59.520 of the chart and without knowing who it is i can only speak very broadly so disclaimer um generally

01:14:06.880 speaking i would say that person could certainly have leadership charisma if he was my client what

01:14:13.920 I would say is watch out for approval seeking because Leo rising has the temptation toward

01:14:25.360 vainglory. It wants the authentic legacy, but it's always tempted by popularity. And Libra as a sign

01:14:33.000 feeds into that in a way that Libra is a sign because it's a Venusian sign. It's the sign of

01:14:40.860 the balance. It's very concerned with social harmony. It's very good at social calculus,

01:14:45.520 and it's reluctant to rock the boat. It will prefer to go along to get along. And so the

01:14:52.700 temptation there would be like, well, like, I don't know what kind of leader this person is,

01:14:57.740 but like, let's say it's in politics or something like that, right? The temptation would be to go

01:15:01.860 along with, well, that's what the voters want. That's what my donors want. So that's going to

01:15:06.240 be my position and that's how I'm going to structure my leadership. There can be the

01:15:11.860 pandering to the masses that then drags one away from their own sense of inner rightness and

01:15:17.280 authenticity. It pulls one away from their inner sense of alignment. And that's particularly toxic

01:15:22.540 to a Libra because it feels like in the moment that they're creating harmony, but when they

01:15:29.320 create external harmony at the expense of their own internal harmony, it poisons their soul.

01:15:34.160 and eventually they kind of end up in a tangled web that is a little bit hard to get out of

01:15:41.740 and the leo rising narrative is always going to say but but but we have to find our authentic

01:15:47.400 expression and the libra sun is yeah but if we do that people won't like me i'll lose the votes i'll

01:15:53.660 lose my donors i'll lose approval somebody's going to be mad at me and a libra is so bless

01:16:00.460 their souls. They're so prone to sacrificing how they feel in order to keep everyone else happy.

01:16:08.140 And they do it with such a mask of grace that nobody even knows that they're unhappy. They

01:16:13.740 even maybe convince themselves that they're fine with it. It's fine. It's fine. As long as everyone

01:16:18.140 else is happy, I can be happy too. But it's eating away at them inwardly. And then the Leo rising

01:16:24.920 story comes through and says no we can't have this this isn't our this isn't the legacy we

01:16:30.240 want to leave because it's not our legacy now you're just building the legacy that the masses

01:16:33.980 want and you know how fickle they are yeah so that would be like the advice that you could give

01:16:40.660 to him is just that would be the big pitfall to watch out for with a leo libra combination

01:16:46.160 all right we have a little super chat here can you talk a little bit about project hindsight

01:16:54.400 that revived Hellenistic astrology by translating ancient texts starting in the 1990s.

01:17:00.740 Was this what you were mentioning a while back?

01:17:03.740 Okay, yeah.

01:17:05.200 Yeah, so Project Hindsight was started by the Roberts, Robert Schmidt, Robert Zoller.

01:17:13.560 Oh, I never remember the third Roberts' last name.

01:17:17.920 You know what?

01:17:18.820 If I haven't remembered it in all these years, I'm never going to, so whatever.

01:17:22.240 Um, the three Roberts, that's always how I think of them. Um, they started translating all of these

01:17:29.060 old Greek astrological texts that, um, had never before been translated. So when I was talking

01:17:35.880 before about like the 12 letter alphabet and how they assigned the meanings of the houses to just

01:17:40.140 correspond with Zodiac signs, project hindsight did away with the necessity of that because they

01:17:46.460 found all these old documents that gave us the doctrines of like how the houses get their

01:17:51.220 significations. Like, for example, the 12th house that we just talked about, it gets its

01:17:56.880 signification not because it's associated with Pisces or Neptune or any of this other modern

01:18:04.340 stuff. It's because planets in the 12th house are trying to move to the first house, which is the

01:18:10.520 next zodiac sign. By their annular motion, they would go from, like, for our Leo rising example,

01:18:16.560 they would go from Cancer in the 12th house to Leo in the first house. They want to get to the

01:18:20.160 helm of the ship where the steering wheel is, but the daily motion of the rising and setting of the

01:18:24.720 heavens pulls them away from it. And so the planet is pulled away from the helm of the ship faster

01:18:30.320 than it can get to it. And that's where you get this sense of the loss of agency. In fact, even

01:18:35.880 the 12th house was like literally associated with like shipwrecks and being lost at sea.

01:18:41.900 Sometimes the symbolism can be really, really literal. And so it has absolutely nothing to do

01:18:47.000 with the sign of Pisces, which is what the 12-letter alphabet would say. The 12th house

01:18:50.980 shares symbolism with Pisces, right? No, that's not the case at all. It has to do with its

01:18:57.700 relationship to the nearest angular point. So houses 1, 4, 7, and 10 are the angles, the

01:19:03.220 Kentrons, where the heavens are pinned to the earth, and the house meanings are derived from

01:19:08.100 their relationships to those. And so Project Hindsight found all these old Greek texts and

01:19:13.620 they started systematically translating them. And they were able to essentially revive the

01:19:19.820 original Hellenistic doctrines that had previously been thought to be lost. So, you know, Hellenistic

01:19:27.300 astrology is very ascendant now that we have these documents, they still are continuing to

01:19:32.160 be translated. There's a fellow on Project Hindsight is still around. I don't know how

01:19:38.420 active they are at translating the documents anymore, but you can get their work online.

01:19:42.900 there's a fellow on patreon who runs uh horoi h-o-r-o-i and he's doing his own translations

01:19:50.420 of these documents as well so there are still lots and lots of texts waiting to be translated

01:19:56.100 um and hopefully in the course of doing that we will uncover some of the doctrines that we're

01:20:01.860 still not quite sure about what the rationale for things was all right and uh thank you for the

01:20:09.460 superjet virtues so i i believe i asked you this last time as well now i will ask it again with my

01:20:17.620 somewhat updated astrology knowledge here so we talked a bit about the the difference between

01:20:24.260 the um i suppose vedic because some astrologers they use a vedic system so what what what is the

01:20:33.460 difference and why do you prefer the hellenistic one all right so once upon a time before the

01:20:41.700 procession of the equinoxes changed the skies around the tropical and sidereal zodiac were

01:20:47.860 the same ones the vedic astrologers still use the sidereal zodiac it is pinned to the exact

01:20:54.420 positions of where the sky is actually at the tropical zodiac is actually pinned to the seasons

01:21:01.340 The sky is symbolic of that, but the zero point of Aries is always the spring equinox in the zodiac.

01:21:09.160 And so once upon a time, that corresponded perfectly with the sky.

01:21:14.460 Thousands of years later now, it does not.

01:21:16.940 We still use the tropical zodiac.

01:21:19.120 We still pin it to the spring equinox in the west.

01:21:21.780 And the Indian astrologers decided to stick with the sidereal zodiac.

01:21:26.600 I'm not saying you can't get a good reading from a Vedic astrologer using a sidereal zodiac.

01:21:31.600 You certainly could.

01:21:32.960 They're just kind of, it's a different system.

01:21:35.620 It's a different methodology.

01:21:36.780 And I do find that these astrological systems are best as like closed systems, not picking

01:21:42.600 and mixing from different ones.

01:21:44.940 So you could still get a good reading from them.

01:21:47.040 But my, like, I have a philosophical problem with it in the sense that I feel it's kind

01:21:52.620 of putting the cart before the horse.

01:21:54.300 it's kind of like you're trying to derive the transcendent language from what physical reality

01:22:02.500 is doing and you can't derive the higher from the lower whereas the tropical says

01:22:09.120 the transcendent reality is this these cycles are fixed it doesn't matter what if there's the

01:22:15.500 procession of the equinox shifts the sky a little bit the cycle still remains the same and so it's

01:22:22.080 just, it's a, I just feel like the sidereal zodiac is a bit of a backwards way of looking at it. But

01:22:27.340 again, I mean, they have a really rich tradition and certainly you could probably find a Vedic

01:22:34.580 astrologer who could give you some insight into your, into your chart, uh, from their own

01:22:39.100 perspective. And, you know, some of that might diverge. Some of it might match up with what a

01:22:44.500 tropical astrologer would use, but in general, like I don't, I don't have a problem with it.

01:22:50.860 it's not something i've studied in depth but i just like philosophically i just feel like it's not

01:22:56.540 the most correct it's their uh rivalry so you know you have in all different like subcultures you

01:23:03.340 have in diet you can go you can get people they get really really heated up discussing diet

01:23:08.780 like a vegan against a carnivore they can get super autistic super riled up yeah and then you

01:23:13.980 have like in in gym i remember now i've not been so active in those circles over the last like 10

01:23:19.420 years but i remember even back in the day you know power lifters and bodybuilders and those training

01:23:25.020 crossfit it could get quite heated do you have that type of rivalry between like the the vedic

01:23:30.540 and the hellenistic as well or is it is it more like people are getting along how how's that i

01:23:36.860 mean there are certainly some people who are very identified with the system that they use and are

01:23:44.300 prone to those kinds of arguments. But I think, um, for the most part, like most astrologers I

01:23:51.060 have encountered are open-minded and kind of, you know, live and let live. You do what works for you.

01:23:57.220 We do what works for us. Um, and, and more of a willingness to kind of learn from each other as

01:24:02.900 well. There are certainly, um, aspects of Vedic astrology that have been incorporated into the

01:24:08.700 Hellenistic tradition. So like the nodes of the moon, for example, the symbolism of that is taken

01:24:15.120 from Vedic mythology, Rahu and Ketu. They might use the nodes a little bit differently, but

01:24:21.320 in general, there's a fair bit of overlap there. Right. So back to my schizo post about the

01:24:32.620 elements is that something you think about at all uh like you know leo being fire and then you have

01:24:39.980 taurus being earth and venus water i suppose is that something you think about or is it just

01:24:46.540 you know fun additional trait that people have put on it or no it is actually quite integral to

01:24:53.500 the meanings of the sign the nature of the sign so um you know take leo it's a fixed fire sign

01:24:59.900 sign. The modality and the element are a really important part of what makes Leo, Leo. You've got

01:25:06.880 that fiery young element that likes to move and it likes to burn very brightly. So you've got

01:25:16.180 Aries and Sagittarius as the other fire signs. They're quite in-your-face signs, for better or

01:25:24.040 or worse. And of the fire signs, Leo is the fixed sign. It's a lot more, it's not movable.

01:25:32.700 Leos can be a little bit more stubborn, right? Sagittarius, that's a mutable sign.

01:25:39.220 They might change their mind. They can be oddly convicted at certain times. They can be quite

01:25:43.320 ideological, but usually they're much more flexible in terms of how they go through life.

01:25:50.120 a lot more like, let me think of an example. Like if you were to put both of them on a stage,

01:25:59.860 Leo is going to be more like, they're going to be standing in the center of the stage

01:26:04.580 with their mic and they're like singing their heart out and they want to be right front and

01:26:09.640 center. And Sagittarius is like dancing all over the stage and just having a good time and a lot

01:26:16.520 less concerned with being in the center or what other people think of them like they're just going

01:26:22.340 to be a little bit more crazy um not in like the mentally unstable sense i mean there are certainly

01:26:29.360 plenty of sagittarius's who are that but plenty who are not and then you know then you've got

01:26:34.020 aries right that's the cardinal sign it wants to take action and he's going to be standing there

01:26:38.200 on the stage being like why are we wasting time putting on this stupid theater performance when

01:26:42.980 we have a battle to go fight this is dumb i'm leaving i'm gonna take charge right you two wrap

01:26:50.580 up your performance and let's get going okay so would you say that aries is the most um like

01:26:57.420 action oriented like most high thumos sign of all um it is certainly because it's a fire sign

01:27:05.780 and it's a cardinal sign it does like to initiate it likes to take the decisive action

01:27:12.200 it can also be like kind of reckless impulsive as well um and it can take action for the sake

01:27:19.540 of taking action sometimes so yeah you could maybe say that all right and sagittarius i know

01:27:28.020 i asked you this a while back because i i read in was actually in a horace harry's book there

01:27:34.360 was an interpretation of the sagittarius as being the most powerful sign so even more powerful than

01:27:41.200 Leo, because it combines the man and the horse, and that's the Indo-European sort of way to conquer.

01:27:48.760 So a man on a horse, the most powerful sign. So I thought, yeah, it makes sense. Sagittarius must

01:27:53.180 be the most powerful sign, but like the sign of the conqueror. But you said that, if I recall

01:27:58.540 correctly, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but you said that Sagittarius is very quest mission

01:28:04.140 oriented yeah yeah yeah they need they need uh they need meaning in their life it's a jupiter

01:28:10.620 ruled sign so they want to have fun but they also want meaning they if they don't have some

01:28:17.340 overarching meaning some north on their compass to orient them they are very very vulnerable to

01:28:25.180 falling into hedonism and nihilism and it's often you know i would say you see that a lot especially

01:28:36.140 nowadays this poor sagittarius is are so vulnerable to modernity and its poisons

01:28:43.420 because there's so many temptations for fun and not a lot of pathways for higher truth

01:28:50.140 truth you see a lot of Sagittarius's who are like backpacking around the world and doing a lot of

01:28:55.400 traveling and stuff like that why are they doing this they're because they're looking for something

01:29:00.920 they're having a good time yeah they want to have a good time and maybe they've fallen into some

01:29:06.980 hedonism and nihilism and yet they still feel the urge to expand their horizons and to just go

01:29:12.040 looking for something even if they don't know what it is and once they find that something once they

01:29:18.020 find the north on their compass that's when they become very convicted and then they're like nope

01:29:24.820 this is it this is right i have the answers and that's when they can kind of like harden a little

01:29:30.180 bit and become a little bit more ideological a little bit more crusading in some ways there's

01:29:36.100 that fire element coming through right so they're open-minded until they're not all right cool

01:29:44.100 so would you say for all sagittarius guys and girls who are listening now is it especially

01:29:50.260 important for them to sort of find a worthy mission and then just go on that path

01:29:57.140 yes find the mission that truly resonates with your soul and it's okay if you don't know what

01:30:04.180 that mission is yet your mission can be to look for the mission in the time for the time being

01:30:11.460 right? So, read philosophy, study religion, go traveling, talk to lots of different people,

01:30:18.000 go to higher education, learn as much as you can, fill your soul with the food that it needs,

01:30:25.180 and don't necessarily go looking for some external scaffolding to give this to you.

01:30:31.180 Like, one mistake I see Sagittarians making sometimes is if they're aware that they have

01:30:36.460 a need for some higher orientation in life, but they're not sure yet what it should be,

01:30:43.540 there's sometimes the temptation to just be like, well, you know what, I'm just going to

01:30:47.020 convert to this religion and follow its rules. And that generally doesn't work out really well

01:30:54.900 for them in the long term, because what is really needed for the Sagittarius is to develop their own

01:31:01.720 internal compass to build that inner law. And one of the ways you do that is for a Sagittarius,

01:31:08.520 especially learning as much as you can about the world and belief systems and as many facts,

01:31:14.440 have as many life experiences as you can, and then kind of like integrate and synthesize all of that

01:31:20.280 into like an inner code that you live by. And that's the best orienting north for a Sagittarius

01:31:28.120 to have but a lot of them do gravitate towards ideology as an external scaffolding because

01:31:34.300 they're lacking the inner alignment the inner code that they really need to guide them

01:31:39.340 so a Sagittarius sounds like a good questing night

01:31:44.000 a lot of Sagittarians in the right wing I have to say a huge number of them that come through

01:31:49.940 my practice especially so Sagittarius sun moon Sagittarius rising as well

01:31:55.780 uh very that quest and meaning making is going to be a very big part of the life of anyone with

01:32:03.580 sagittarius in the big three sounds good sounds epic um so now back to arius we focus on there's

01:32:12.760 been a lot of taurus today a lot of leo and arius of course so i'd say that arius is the main

01:32:18.140 the main character of this particular uh stream especially since shout out to solbra by the way

01:32:24.200 for the epic picture of we have neptune and saturn they're standing there gazing at the majesty

01:32:30.840 the majesty of areas so can you explain what has happened what has happened recently what

01:32:37.880 is happening i know that of course areas as we have you know talked about in or you talked about

01:32:43.800 in in this um fine stream it's more you know fiery bellicose high thumos and now areas will have a

01:32:52.040 higher influence or perhaps not influence but um well okay well let's go with influence um

01:33:00.360 can you explain what is happening yeah so he was probably referring to the

01:33:07.640 saturn neptune conjunction at the zero degree mark of aries and that is um

01:33:16.840 it's a rare conjunction. It doesn't come around very often. Every 37 years, Saturn and Neptune

01:33:26.480 can join, but kind of unprecedented for it to be at the zero degree mark of Aries, the very

01:33:32.980 beginning of the zodiac. So, you know, the last Saturn-Neptune conjunction was in Capricorn in

01:33:40.020 1989. And then there was one in Libra in the early fifties. And, you know, they, they're like

01:33:47.600 mid sign conjunctions, which is more of a, like a, let's just kind of softly revise the story.

01:33:52.620 When we get this conjunction at the beginning of the Zodiac, it's more like a, let's reboot the

01:33:57.900 whole system. So much more of a, of a hard reset in that sense. Um, and that,

01:34:08.520 that is definitely like you already feel it in the climate you you feel this Marshall stuff

01:34:17.800 rising and I should say that they both briefly dipped their toe into Aries in summer of last

01:34:23.740 year before retrograding back into Pisces so last summer we had already gotten like a little bit of

01:34:30.380 a taste of this but they didn't perfect their conjunction then they just did on the day um

01:34:36.640 I think just after the eclipse, actually, I want to say they perfected. And so

01:34:42.620 we are now having this new cycle come through. But what makes it even more interesting is that

01:34:52.520 Saturn and Neptune are flanked by a sextile on either side, Pluto in the early degrees of

01:34:59.620 Aquarius. And Uranus is about to move back into Gemini. It was there again over the summer. So

01:35:07.420 we had a taste of it then. And so, you know, think of like, you've got like the top half of a kite

01:35:12.840 formation going on, where Saturn and Neptune are at the apex of this. And the other two outer

01:35:19.580 planets are very much in play. And that makes it even more rare. And so we're definitely moving

01:35:28.560 into an era where, um, I think, you know, the rule book is probably going to change in a big

01:35:36.040 way. And so just to kind of give like a, like a little crash course in what these planets in

01:35:43.980 these signs do. So Pluto in Aquarius, um, Aquarius deals with like collectives, systems,

01:35:53.140 technologies, ideology, socially binding structures, right? And Pluto is, I consider

01:36:02.660 Pluto a malefic personally. I just, I don't really ever see it doing like good things to people,

01:36:08.320 but it's more like, you know, kind of a death and rebirth planet. It pulls things up from the

01:36:13.280 subterranean level and exposes them like rot and hidden power. It tests foundations. And so when

01:36:20.660 you put Pluto in Aquarius, you get this emphasis on coherence. And you'll see, you see this already

01:36:29.620 because Pluto's been in Aquarius now longer than the other ones have. You're starting to see this

01:36:34.140 rising intolerance for what I call non-functional deviations in the collective society. The tolerance

01:36:43.400 for people who don't fit in who don't pull their weight who are a drag on society everybody's

01:36:51.620 getting sick of it and anything that fails to get pulled into consensus pluto in aquarius is going

01:36:59.200 to just be like get out so we're talking about like you wrote a really good article about it

01:37:06.820 as well so i know what you're getting here with sort of like woke ideologies uh many of these

01:37:12.160 things are quickly coming out of fashion all right cool and and probably in a in a bit of a

01:37:19.200 rude awakening kind of way for them and so you know one thing you have to think of with aquarius

01:37:26.200 it's a saturn ruled sign and saturn deals with boundaries who's in and who's out a lot of people

01:37:33.000 make the mistake of thinking that aquarius is just about the outsider the iconoclast the rebel

01:37:39.260 And that is not so much the case.

01:37:41.680 It's really more about the dividing line between the two.

01:37:44.740 And so Aquarius can very much be about who conforms enough to be in.

01:37:50.040 Who's orthodox?

01:37:51.520 Like who, do you fit the system?

01:37:55.900 Do you fit the mold?

01:37:56.800 Okay, you can be in the club.

01:37:58.120 Oh, you're not a good cog in the machine.

01:38:02.740 Well, we're either going to have to file you down to you fit or out you go.

01:38:07.900 toss you in the bin and um so that adds a real harshness to this and pluto tends to intensify

01:38:16.880 other planets it comes into aspect with and then in aries we've got saturn and neptune so saturn

01:38:25.220 as i said you know it's like measure judgment limits endurance testing and it is classically

01:38:31.500 in fall in the sign of Aries. And so Saturn becomes quite severe here. Its good qualities

01:38:39.940 are kind of suppressed and its worst qualities start to come to the forefront. And so that

01:38:45.400 severity in Aries becomes martial. You're going to start to see the culture favoring ideals of

01:38:52.480 like fortitude and struggle and self-discipline. And you might find like just generally like kind

01:39:01.200 of, um, like a reaction against the destructiveness and decadence of the age. There's not a lot

01:39:09.640 of, uh, like, there's not a lot of tolerance for indulgence and evasiveness. It's just

01:39:15.700 more like you need to be strong and you need to endure it. And we favor those who, who

01:39:20.560 can stand tough amidst hard times, but then you add Neptune to it. And that really changes

01:39:27.560 the flavor of it. Because Neptune is a very different planet. Neptune is very, it has a

01:39:34.640 glamour to it. It likes mythic yearning, illusions, confusion, delusion. It's all about the dissolution

01:39:43.820 of form and Saturn is form. So you put Neptune there and it's kind of working at cross purposes

01:39:49.500 with Saturn. And when Neptune is in Aries, it'll be there for 14 years. Now it's casting a glamour

01:39:55.760 over the martial ideal. Who's the new hero over the next 14 years? Not going to be the rainbow

01:40:02.480 haired crybabies. You do not get social capital anymore for being weird or fragile or defective.

01:40:12.080 You get social capital over the next 14 years by embodying the ascetic warrior or even the martyr.

01:40:20.280 We'll probably see a lot of martyr themes coming up too. People who want to die for a cause or

01:40:24.780 suffer for a cause and that being seen as ideal but it can cause um it can cause people to be

01:40:33.820 swept up by things that are larger than truth and there's a real intoxicating danger that comes with

01:40:39.980 neptune um the last time they were in aries together i want to say it was during the civil war

01:40:47.900 oh wow okay u.s civil war which was really romanticized at the start of it like people

01:40:54.940 really like they they had all kinds of ideals about this war and nobody expected it to be as

01:40:59.940 brutal and bloody as it was so about what you said about aquarius being on the inside or on the

01:41:07.460 outside are you orthodox so what i see just spontaneous thought is that the politically

01:41:14.500 speaking like the collapse of the center you have extreme left wing or like anti-whites who are

01:41:19.980 extreme and then you have based guys and there isn't really any room for this milquetoast

01:41:25.420 conservatives because they're just being gobbled up by either you know the right wing the proper

01:41:29.680 right wing or the left so i'm looking at the youth in particular uh there there isn't really any any

01:41:36.560 middle ground anymore it's very polarized so is that something you would see like an astrological

01:41:42.100 aspect too as well yeah so that would be the next outer planet uranus moving into gemini

01:41:48.820 and so you already seen that because we've already had uranus in gemini over the summer

01:41:55.140 and it's about to come back in uh uranus is generally like it's sudden disruptions revolutions

01:42:03.120 innovations awakening but in gemini that's striking at the mind the language the

01:42:08.020 the flow of information the dialectic and so it becomes very polarizing it's going to increase

01:42:15.860 that polarizing tendency and when uranus makes that trine to pluto and aquarius again intensifying

01:42:23.160 the effect um and in a way that can be very very ideological so you get um you get like

01:42:32.260 ideologies that start to fracture into like caricatures of themselves into like these

01:42:37.000 little shadow twin ideologies and then recombining into new hybrids of things um you know techno

01:42:44.860 cults and stuff are probably on the rise but like the worst part of it i think and something that i

01:42:50.520 think the right wing is particularly susceptible to is just the like viral cleverness memes um

01:42:59.460 owning people online starts to be more valued than actual slow-built wisdom or sound policy

01:43:08.760 decisions, good political strategy. And it all becomes about in-group signaling, right? Extreme

01:43:18.880 rhetoric from Uranus and Gemini, in-group signaling with Pluto and Aquarius. And that

01:43:25.900 could even be like quite violent rhetoric because we've also got the aries influence in the mix as

01:43:30.200 well and right that produces a particularly dangerous cocktail all right so you mentioned

01:43:38.480 neptune and you know the dreamy thing i was thinking about all of this agartha edits i made

01:43:44.860 a video on it i'm quite hyped to see all this talk of agartha would you say that plays into it

01:43:50.000 like people start to dream about hyperborea and agartha and you know more epic stuff would you

01:43:54.940 say that's a neptune influence it can be a neptune influence i do think a lot of the symbolism of

01:44:02.420 aries is very resonant with the idea of like hyperborea um that warrior nature is very much

01:44:12.720 in the arian tradition uh that sense of the warrior as the one who fights the holy war

01:44:19.140 and he, the battle is an allegory for the battle within himself. I talked about this at length in

01:44:27.540 my films, The Soul of Chivalry, in which, you know, the crusading Templars would meet the

01:44:35.100 Muslims on the battlefield and they kind of recognize in each other that the war is just

01:44:40.440 an allegory for something more transcendent. It's a chance to achieve victory. And it's not about

01:44:44.740 necessarily who wins in the physical plane but who wins on the higher plane who's granted the

01:44:50.500 transcendent victory were you able to fight without regard for life and limb in service

01:44:56.180 of something higher and that kind of thing can come through pretty strongly with neptune and aries

01:45:03.540 it sounds like uh julius evola in metaphysics of war very good book i can recommend when it talks

01:45:09.300 about the the inner crusade being the greater crusade and then the outer that is the perfect

01:45:15.700 book to read under this transit so i hope everyone in your audience will go out and maybe

01:45:22.100 read that uh read that book today or at some point over the next few weeks because uh

01:45:27.140 neptune and saturn and aries is like perfect for that book it's just so archetypally perfect

01:45:33.540 it yeah it's not super long either so i'd say it's a quite good book to to start with uh metaphysics

01:45:40.740 physics of war metaphysics of power is also quite good uh short book of essays another good one to

01:45:46.740 read with pluto and aquarius you know we should uh maybe we need to put together a little reading

01:45:51.620 list for these transits yeah definitely we we could do a different stream evola posting to evola

01:45:59.380 enjoyers posting about about stuff um so yeah good good time to start reading evola in according to

01:46:07.460 the stars so we have a super chat here how do you get a reading without learning at all um i'm not

01:46:13.940 exactly sure what it means there but maybe you can respond um i'm not a hundred percent sure so

01:46:20.420 if he wants to clarify his question that might be helpful but i'll try to answer and hopefully it's

01:46:24.820 the i'm interpreting it right uh you don't need to know anything about astrology to get a reading

01:46:30.500 um you can i would say like probably 80 of my clients it's their first reading and they know

01:46:36.020 nothing about astrology and um if you just let your astrologer know whoever you get a reading

01:46:42.420 with that it's your first time and you don't know anything about us oh no oh dear okay we're good

01:46:53.940 oh we're good i thought it was mercury again attacking us i thought too um yeah so you just

01:47:02.340 just let them know that you don't know anything about it and that you'd like them to explain what

01:47:06.580 the signs houses and planets mean and most of them will do that as a matter of course anyway

01:47:11.620 and you know you can always just say like look you're losing me can you back up and just explain

01:47:16.180 this a little bit more and they'll all be happy to do it because i think um you know i can't speak

01:47:21.460 for all astrologers, but for all the ones that I've met, I think most of us are generally

01:47:27.260 concerned that the client gets the most out of the reading that they can. We're not doing it to like

01:47:32.780 show off our knowledge. We want to make sure that you understand and that you have a roadmap that

01:47:39.000 you can take with you out of that session and that it's meaningful and resonant with you. So

01:47:44.800 you definitely don't need to know anything about astrology to get a reading. And in fact,

01:47:48.680 getting a reading can be a really great way to start learning because it's tied to your own chart

01:47:53.720 and your own life experience it really kind of helps ground the concepts in things like oh yeah

01:47:58.920 i can understand how that played out in my life because i lived it all right we have uh cat did

01:48:07.180 a few readings from me several years ago she really helped me a lot greetings from a bulgarian

01:48:11.840 capricorn all the bad stuff they say constantly about us capricorns aren't true uh what are what

01:48:18.160 people saying about capricorns it is probably uh one of the least like signs thank you for that

01:48:24.400 gail wolf i really appreciate that it's um capricorn all signs have their bad stereotypes

01:48:31.680 but capricorns probably known for being serious workaholic only interested in money very um

01:48:39.600 ambitious career-wise and you do find capricorns like that too but it's definitely not all

01:48:46.320 Capricorns. I do think Capricorn, heavy in the chart, can speak to a life that's certainly a

01:48:52.740 little bit harder than what the average person gets, that you're going to be more dealing with

01:48:57.660 delays, obstacles, things you have to overcome, difficulties to endure. There's often a sense of

01:49:04.420 kind of having to meet the hardness of the world and not let it make you hard yourself. And,

01:49:11.220 And, you know, so I think probably people who say that stuff about Capricorns have maybe met

01:49:17.240 Capricorns who did let the world make them hard on the outside. And usually that's just an effect

01:49:23.560 of, you know, the kind of life that they've had. But Capricorns, like all signs are really cool.

01:49:28.900 Capricorn's a cool sign too. It's the sign of initiation. It's the gate of the gods. This is

01:49:33.960 where the ascent begins, the initiate on their knees in the cave and having to crawl out to the

01:49:38.940 top of the mountain um so there's you get a lot of the symbolism of capricorn kind of wrapped up

01:49:45.220 in that as a saturn ruled sign it's like it's it's seeking the wisdom and having to do it you

01:49:49.720 know through that that difficulty of initiation all right and thank you gail wolf for the

01:49:56.360 the super chat all right we're coming up to two hours already we've had a good conversation so

01:50:04.140 let's end on the following note

01:50:06.280 what do you see, what would you

01:50:08.320 say to all

01:50:10.120 listeners now, what to expect

01:50:12.300 in the coming time, now of course we have the

01:50:14.160 situation in Iran

01:50:15.460 perhaps some Aries influence there as well

01:50:18.360 with the more war-like

01:50:20.000 tendencies, and you said in the beginning

01:50:22.260 of the show that last

01:50:24.300 year there were some

01:50:25.720 back and forth in the same

01:50:28.400 region, and you

01:50:30.380 think it will be longer

01:50:32.300 now due to the increased influence of areas is that correct yes yes there's definitely a real

01:50:40.540 risk that we could see um a long-term war a war that spreads more around the globe multiple fronts

01:50:49.500 it could um it could definitely become something much bigger than it initially seems right now

01:50:56.300 and so i would definitely uh encourage people to keep that in the back of their mind

01:51:01.180 and and plan accordingly for that um in terms of uh you know what i would say um

01:51:11.180 since your audience is i'm guessing mostly of the right-wing dissident type yeah we we should hope

01:51:18.460 um yeah i suppose i can only suppose this um i would say like this is a time where

01:51:27.180 it kind of looks like your moment, right? It looks like the moment has come. Finally,

01:51:34.220 the tides are turning. And there are some tailwinds in this astrological weather that can

01:51:41.160 make it feel like winning, but that is seeding something for later defeat. And I would caution

01:51:50.080 all political activists on the right to think about this over the next few years. So the moral

01:51:58.260 climate is kind of hardening in the direction of what most right-wingers would broadly say that

01:52:06.080 they want to see. When the culture gets exhausted by the instability, right, like the prestige

01:52:12.080 starts to shift towards things like discipline and strong borders and coherent societies,

01:52:16.940 competence, duty, right? But that does not automatically mean a right-wing victory. It

01:52:22.720 just means that the vocabulary that the right-wing uses now sounds less crazy and out there. And so

01:52:31.140 the dissident right is going to probably benefit from this rising tolerance for more blunt speech

01:52:38.180 and harsher policies. They'll benefit from the legitimization of order as a primary social good.

01:52:46.940 they they'll benefit also from the demotion of fragility as that sort of moral and social

01:52:53.540 currency. And especially like, you know, you're also seeing like the re-migration talk gaining

01:52:58.760 steam, not just as something discussed online either, like mainstream outlets and analysts

01:53:04.080 are talking about this as a real political phenomenon that might have traction. And I

01:53:09.640 think it will gain traction as these transits now start to pick up steam. And just in general,

01:53:18.160 kind of war conditions reward order politics, right? That widening Marshall climate

01:53:26.920 pushes society more in the direction of like, well, we need better security. We need

01:53:32.540 more policing, we need to know who's loyal to our country. There's a higher tolerance for these

01:53:40.000 coercive measures. And so on the surface, this feels like an ascendant vibe. But my thinking is

01:53:47.620 that I think the dissident right is going to end up being undercut by the same weather.

01:53:53.860 And I think broadly what I've seen is that people are mistaking the civilizational hardening, which favors their tone and their aesthetics for a civilizational conversion, which would favor their actual substance.

01:54:12.740 And those are not the same thing. So, you know, under like under Pluto and Aquarius, like that coherence politics, it rewards what can be integrated into good governance and systems.

01:54:29.120 And I think like dissident movements can often think that means, oh, we're taking power.

01:54:34.480 But in practice, what it's more likely to mean is like your energy gets absorbed, it gets standardized, and then it gets replaced by people or even machines that are more predictable and controllable.

01:54:47.160 So what you would see is like the language of the right is being adopted or partially adopted by like these more mainstream voices.

01:54:56.400 And then the taboo breaking function of the dissident right becomes less useful because now that Overton window has shifted and the system is moving in a direction where it prefers things that are cleaner, things that are more disciplined, more conformist.

01:55:12.040 They don't want scandal prone activists. And so winning is not so much like a triumph. It's just being incorporated and forced to conform to the bigger system. Because Pluto in Aquarius does not give the crown to rebels. It crowns structures that work.

01:55:35.660 and people who work for those structures and keep them working are cogs in the machine and

01:55:42.480 oh you know that's it kind of goes back to like the mistake of people thinking Aquarius is about

01:55:48.960 the outsider and the rebel and it's just like that is not what we're looking at here like and

01:55:54.140 and this is going to bring like big revolutions in like AI technology that's probably going to

01:55:59.060 be used for surveillance security assisting in governance and stuff and so like dissidents are

01:56:04.980 increasingly replaceable. And then you get the Aries energy where that crusading heat makes

01:56:16.280 them a lot easier to steer and manipulate and also easier to ruin. So like you see it in the

01:56:24.800 online discourse, this idealization of this martial energy. And it's just such a classic

01:56:31.880 neptune and aries hazard this this romance of the struggle the feeling of destiny and it produces

01:56:39.800 such predictable failure modes like it's strategic delusion right like that you see you can go into

01:56:49.640 any comment section on social media where dissident right people are hanging out and see this in real

01:56:54.840 time they commit to these very emotionally satisfying fights that give them that emotional

01:57:00.440 catharsis, even though they're institutionally losing. And that rhetoric doesn't help them.

01:57:08.460 You also get a lot of moral inflation coming through, right? This sense that, well, if you

01:57:15.280 make a compromise, you're betraying the cause. And every opponent gets cast as this metaphysical

01:57:22.180 evil. They're not just some guy with a different opinion. He's evil. He's a demon. He's causing

01:57:29.480 the destruction of the world and it just gets really inflated and then when people are kind

01:57:35.000 of like primed for that crusading energy they they're really easy to bait into something that's

01:57:40.600 more bannable or indictable even or so you're talking about there's an increased risk for fed

01:57:49.800 posting oh yes oh yeah all right such a big risk for that um and yeah i can say they start

01:57:57.320 manufacturing the justification to suppress them they they hand the state and the platforms that

01:58:04.280 they're on to like the whole dossier of see we told you right i will say this i've said this

01:58:11.000 many times i'll say it many times more that do be careful with what you write because there are

01:58:16.840 many people who are being paid full-time you know salaries for keeping track of right-wing hate

01:58:23.400 speech and incitement to violence and whatever so whatever you write online it might be in a private

01:58:29.800 private there is no such thing as private everything you write online will be seen by a

01:58:34.040 third party uh and i understand it might be fun for a for a young guy who might be angry to fed

01:58:40.280 post but don't do it it will only come back to bite you and ultimately it's like you said it's

01:58:45.400 about you feeling good because you express something but it's not really it's not leading

01:58:50.120 us to victory in a meaningful way so and if you do have friends who fed post tell them off tell

01:58:55.960 them that they're only being silly they aren't really helping on the contrary they're actively

01:59:01.000 sabotaging for us because as you said um that you know they will use this opportunity to crack down

01:59:07.640 on us so uh so yeah be cautious of the of the fed posting um uh temptation everyone yes and

01:59:15.320 And especially with increasing AI surveillance, where like, let's say you posted a lot on Twitter X now, it's called, and, you know, it has Grok integrated into it.

01:59:26.880 You think that their AI is not going to be able to build an entire profile of you based on everything you've ever posted?

01:59:34.560 That, like, that can be particularly risky.

01:59:37.240 And it's not easy to go through.

01:59:38.680 like if you've posted thousands and tens of thousands of times over the course of a decade

01:59:43.980 it's really hard to go through manually and look at what you've posted and get rid of any of it and

01:59:48.580 now it's all logged in the ai anyway um and then the one thing that i think also that the right is

01:59:55.840 particularly vulnerable to just because there's already the tendency to purity spiral you know

02:00:01.940 uranus and gemini as i said like it structurally rewards those kind of schisms and so then what

02:00:08.260 you see is you find like people who purity spiral and accuse other people becoming more visible and

02:00:15.480 influential than people who are actually organizing and getting stuff done. Or like what I said about

02:00:21.360 like the memes and the cleverness, people care more about looking smart and owning someone else

02:00:25.980 than they do about having a nuanced position or being able to accomplish something in real life

02:00:31.700 because these emotionally charged memes

02:00:35.280 just matter more to them than any workable policy.

02:00:39.280 It becomes a place where they go

02:00:41.560 to release their two minutes hate, right?

02:00:44.260 Their existential rage.

02:00:46.520 And they're siphoning off so much energy from people

02:00:50.440 by getting them to just be mad online.

02:00:54.640 Get offline.

02:00:56.300 Just if you're feeling ragey every time you log in

02:00:59.860 and you can't help but say things like that, that's your sign to get offline. So because like,

02:01:06.000 even as the overall culture starts to harden in a way that could be favorable to the dissident,

02:01:10.780 right? What the risk is, is they're just going to become a swarm of these like little micro

02:01:15.100 sects who are locked into these purity spiraling authenticity contests. And they're just producing

02:01:21.040 this increasingly toxic rhetoric to win attention inside their own bubble. And that's how you get

02:01:29.340 movement that selects for like performative larping rather than an actual winning strategy

02:01:34.780 right it's all about what can be compressed into like this in-group signaling and it produces the

02:01:40.060 dopamine hit and so the concrete tell that this is happening is when your movement becomes better

02:01:48.460 at identifying enemies inside your camp than at recruiting normal people yeah and that has

02:01:54.140 historically been a problem for the dissident right in all of its iterations over the last

02:01:59.480 several decades. But now with the online aspect of it, it's like, well, now the online right is

02:02:05.540 like they produce a lot of viral con content, they escalate their rhetoric, but they're not

02:02:10.680 building stable and functional coalitions. And then the more the AI content starts to flood the

02:02:16.820 space to the faster that's going to accelerate, because now you've got AI bots, creating like

02:02:21.880 this synthetic outrage and these fake factions, these fake scandals. And so you end up with a

02:02:27.720 movement that's very high energy, but it's internally unstable. And that can be quite

02:02:32.960 useful to elites and to like the state apparatus as a pressure wave, right? It shifts the Overton

02:02:41.480 window. It scares people and scared people are, of course, easier to control. And it makes certain

02:02:47.660 policies necessary. You see this already with the way things are going in Australia. And when you

02:02:55.880 have that internally unstable movement, that's not a movement that anyone wants to trust with

02:03:01.360 the steering wheel. So the system then starts looking for a way to keep the direction of travel,

02:03:06.400 but remove that element of unpredictability. And so it's this very non-governable movement in the

02:03:16.000 sense that if you can't keep key figures from saying things that trigger backlash, like lawsuits

02:03:23.440 or deplatforming or just general, the society just isn't sympathetic anymore. You can't police

02:03:30.720 your own people without splitting into these purity spiraling factions. You can't accept any

02:03:36.800 kind of partial win without accusing the person who accepted it of being a traitor to the cause.

02:03:42.300 you can't form these allies anymore because who wants to be your ally when they can't

02:03:47.500 model what you're going to do or say next week they don't want to tie their reputations to you

02:03:52.300 and then you can't get organized enough to do anything other than stoke this online crusader

02:03:56.940 energy and you keep falling into traps like scandals and feds and just obvious things

02:04:02.860 that you could be criminally charged for or at least like de-platformed or debanked

02:04:08.060 which is also horrible and just like from the point of view of like donor classes or

02:04:13.740 the national electorate you know that kind of movement is a liability to everyone near it

02:04:21.100 even if the general impulse is resonating still with the public mood and that's when it becomes

02:04:28.620 they start thinking well how do we replace this how do we get a technocratic substitute who can

02:04:32.940 promise the same ends minus the chaos. And then Pluto and Aquarius energy makes it much more

02:04:39.440 appealing to co-opt the chaotic movement and replace it with something more competent and

02:04:45.140 controlled. And that Saturn and Aries, man, that is a harsh reality check. It's a brutal teacher

02:04:52.700 because it's encouraging the boldness and it's fed by these Neptunian delusions of grandeur.

02:04:59.900 But then Saturn comes along because it's in fall. It enforces the consequences really hard. And so all the chest thumping that people are doing just becomes like self-incrimination because Aries makes people want to get loud.

02:05:15.120 But Saturn and Pluto, you know, they're in a sextile. There's the contact there. It's recording all that into a ledger, which could result in punishment. They're making a list. They're checking it twice. They're going to find out if you're naughty or nice.

02:05:29.900 and um the the consequence is going to be worse than coal in your stocking at christmas

02:05:36.860 they will be real hard consequences and way too many people have stopped speaking like dissidents

02:05:45.900 and have started speaking like victors as if the consequences don't apply um i find that

02:05:52.880 quite concerning and that's the surveillance that's happening very pluto and aquarius all

02:05:58.880 this automated monitoring the automated classification and the boldness of aries like

02:06:04.480 that's not gaining you freedom it's it's gaining you visibility but do you want visibility when

02:06:10.140 big brother is watching because all they have to do is have their ai flick a switch and you're

02:06:15.300 unpersoned and as you said like the time is right for fed posting these dissident circles are wide

02:06:22.060 open to infiltration and people are going to become increasingly susceptible to be invaded

02:06:27.260 into rash talk or rash actions and it's always the feds who come in and say the most extreme

02:06:34.060 things and now we're in a climate where that's socially rewarded especially as an in-group signal

02:06:39.460 very very dangerous yeah so do call out anyone you see fed posting so yes very interesting stuff

02:06:48.100 and good good heads up as well so before we round up do tell our esteemed audience where

02:06:56.320 where they can find you and if they want to book a reading which i can again highly recommend it

02:07:01.760 was super insightful for me when we did it well at the moment i am taking a little bit of a social

02:07:10.000 media break for many of the reasons i just cited um so i haven't really been on twitter much i'm

02:07:17.120 sure i'll come back at some point so i am on twitter as philosophic hat i've been focusing

02:07:21.680 more on my sub stack and putting in some more like long form content over there. I'm working

02:07:28.200 on a three-part series on the Freya substratum of pre-fate, that kind of primordial feminine

02:07:37.620 layer and the magic that one does with that. And I've got my YouTube channel, which I post

02:07:45.980 on infrequently, but I've got my Revolt Against the Modern World series over there for anyone

02:07:50.140 who's interested in Julius Evola. And I've got astrologicat.com is where you can book a reading

02:07:57.720 with me if you like. I am pretty booked up at the moment. I'll just let people know in advance that

02:08:01.960 there is quite a wait. I think June is probably the earliest available at the moment. I'd have

02:08:08.180 to check my calendar, but it does book up quickly. And so I apologize for that. I'm doing what I can

02:08:14.760 to reduce the wait time but i never seem to catch up so um it's uh it's just the just the zeitgeist

02:08:23.000 people have a lot of questions about what the stars are doing i guess um so yeah that's where

02:08:27.880 people can find me and um i'll be around here and there all right awesome awesome thank you to

02:08:34.680 everyone who checked in thank you for the subject and of course thank you to philosophy cat for your

02:08:39.640 valuable and interesting insights and yeah i hope to speak to you again so goodbye everyone

The Golden One - March 02, 2026

Astrology For Aspiring Mystics – With Philosophicat

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