The Golden One - Gnostic Informant on the Origins of the Bible and the Ancient World

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00:00:04.180 Oh yeah, I see the live. I see the live. The red on the top.

00:00:07.260 All right. Awesome. Awesome. Cool.

00:00:10.820 Then I suppose we can get straight to it. Welcome everyone.

00:00:14.040 We are about to attain true Gnosis and we have none other than the Gnostic informant himself.

00:00:20.100 And yeah, I will let you cook. I will let you cook.

00:00:22.920 I think you have, I know you have a lot to say about the topic.

00:00:26.780 So we're going to get into the main topic will be the Bible and the historical accuracy of the Bible, everything like that.

00:00:37.120 Before we get to that, I have a few different sort of opening questions.

00:00:41.400 So the first would be like an origin story specifically, because I know you were Christian for a while.

00:00:47.640 so i would like to know the sort of like the moment the great revelation that made you you

00:00:54.220 know the question that came into your mind like you know is this really it and then you started

00:00:59.560 down the the rabbit hole and entered you know where you where you are now so give us the that

00:01:04.740 origin story yeah i i've told the story quite a few times but it's it's an interesting story

00:01:10.540 because i was i kind of got caught up in the wrong crowd in high school and you know early

00:01:16.480 after like you know the early 20s era and i wound up in prison like i don't i don't really give a

00:01:22.080 lot of details nothing violent nothing work like nothing that's like oh wow he did that it was all

00:01:28.140 just wheeling and dealing and hustling and and getting caught with possession of substances

00:01:33.460 stuff like that but we're not gonna get into i'm not gonna get demonetized with buzzwords and all

00:01:38.280 that anyways i end up uh i end up in prison and that's when i found christianity and i grew up

00:01:43.980 catholic so i had an understanding of what christianity was i was baptized i was confirmed

00:01:49.140 i was i understood christianity the basic level but when people are myself i'll just talk for

00:01:56.060 myself when not when people like myself get to that rock bottom we're looking for some some sort

00:02:01.680 of way to save ourselves and christianity really speaks to people i think as nietzsche and other

00:02:07.140 writers point out it really does reach out to the botched and the downtrodden that's kind of the

00:02:12.400 message is that anyone can be saved you can be a murderer on the cross and jesus will take you to

00:02:16.700 heaven with you and that message really resonated with someone like myself in that time period in

00:02:21.860 my early 20s actually i was 20 years old i turned 21 in prison very young guy um but yeah so i was

00:02:30.020 i was i resonated i was going to the church service every sunday and it was it was it wasn't

00:02:35.540 a catholic service it was a protestant service so i started getting into the whole baptist

00:02:39.480 evangelical they're very zionist that type of thing um yeah i was really deep into that and

00:02:46.420 so when i got out i had a friend who was a part of one of those churches from high school who was

00:02:51.560 got his life together too he's like come to my church and um and by the way when i was in prison

00:02:57.380 i read the bible cover to cover but i didn't just read the bible i was going to the to the library

00:03:01.300 and reading other texts reading about greek mythology reading about plato reading about

00:03:05.780 the Hindu Mahabharata and the Upanishads.

00:03:10.320 I was just very interested in religion.

00:03:12.060 But even back then, I was a stickler for Christianity being the only true.

00:03:17.620 Even though I was interested in not reading all the stuff,

00:03:19.300 I was like, no, Christianity is obviously the truest.

00:03:22.340 So when I got out, I had a lot of knowledge now.

00:03:26.280 And I went to start going to this church.

00:03:28.640 And it was a King James only church

00:03:30.460 that taught that the King James 1611 English Bible

00:03:34.700 was the only approved bible by god because it was perfectly written or perfectly translated by these

00:03:41.440 by these great bishops from the anglic i think it's the yeah there was the anglican church at

00:03:45.940 the time yeah uh under king under king um uh james obviously and it was it was perfectly

00:03:52.180 translated from greek in the new testament and hebrew in the old testament and it was like

00:03:56.260 all the modern bibles are all satanic and they're taking verses out so they would tell us and i just

00:04:02.300 thought to myself, huh, so let's, you know, we would have these little, we would have

00:04:06.780 Sunday sessions that we would do, the church service, but we'd also do Bible studies on

00:04:11.280 Tuesdays.

00:04:12.500 During these Bible studies, I would, I would ask, I'd say, can we compare the new Bibles

00:04:17.240 to the King James?

00:04:18.080 I'm just curious to see which verses they took out.

00:04:22.160 The pastor was like, of course, this is what I've been doing my whole life.

00:04:25.100 I know all this stuff.

00:04:26.380 Good question.

00:04:27.000 He would bring out the NIV Bible, bring out the King James Bible, and we would go, the

00:04:31.680 the big one that they would love to point to,

00:04:33.880 the first thing they would point to is in the letter,

00:04:36.160 first John,

00:04:36.720 not,

00:04:36.980 not the gospel of John,

00:04:37.900 but you know how there's three letters of John,

00:04:39.640 first John,

00:04:40.220 second John.

00:04:40.940 Well,

00:04:41.980 there they would point to the letter called first John,

00:04:44.680 the epistle of John and verse five through seven.

00:04:48.700 It says in the King James Bible for these three are one,

00:04:52.300 the father,

00:04:53.360 the son,

00:04:53.860 and the Holy spirit.

00:04:55.540 And I was like,

00:04:56.480 okay,

00:04:56.860 well,

00:04:57.080 what is the,

00:04:57.480 and I,

00:04:57.740 what does the modern NIV say?

00:04:59.160 the modern niv once just says for these three are one and it stops doesn't say father son holy

00:05:06.420 spirit and i was like that's ah they took the they they took the trinity out maybe this is satanic

00:05:13.200 maybe these people are right and i was like and so they kind of got me and they got me for a little

00:05:17.640 bit and then i was curious to know because i've heard people rebuttal this i heard people say

00:05:23.720 no the original greek manuscripts don't have father son holy spirit that was added by latin

00:05:30.080 bibles because of the nicene creed so after the nice so post nicene creed jerome translated his

00:05:36.820 own latin bible called the vulgate and in that vulgate he adds this little caveat to that verse

00:05:43.220 father son holy spirit because he wanted to make it more more uh obvious that this is about the

00:05:49.280 trinity so you get for these three are one father son holy spirit and that that latin bible makes

00:05:55.360 its way into the king jamie's bible and the modern niv scholarly bibles are going back to the

00:06:01.280 original greek manuscripts from the first second third fifth century to the fifth century before

00:06:06.020 jerome and they're going no that was added we're not going to use this added verses we want we want

00:06:10.360 to we want to be as close as we can to the actual original so the niv for all its flaws does get

00:06:15.120 this right i don't think he's not perfect either i'm not going to sit there and say the niv is the

00:06:18.220 best bible but it's not but sorry to interrupt real quickly so i'm i'm nowhere near as knowledgeable

00:06:24.640 about christianity as you of course so that's why you're here so what you're saying is that

00:06:28.840 the original bible the original teaching of christianity did not have the holy trinity

00:06:34.020 is that correct it didn't have a clear cut description of the trinity anywhere in the

00:06:42.000 new testament i would not but i would say there's a new there's some nuance here because

00:06:46.660 there are a lot of people who will say the trinity doesn't exist in the in the new testament and

00:06:50.720 these other unitarians and a lot of scholars will say this too a lot of critical scholars who you

00:06:55.560 know atheist critical scholars because they just want to like pick apart the bible and they'll say

00:06:59.340 yeah there's the trinity came later i'll actually say i'll actually admit in john in the gospel of

00:07:05.920 john in john 1 it introduces a triad so you have god the father and the logos is with god in the

00:07:13.360 beginning in the beginning was god and was his word and the greek word is logos and then it says

00:07:18.940 in him was zoe or life in english and that's a triad that's it's retelling genesis with adam

00:07:25.120 eve and god but now these adam now these are the new adam and eve are divine it's the holy spirit

00:07:30.420 jesus so i would i would say i would even say the trinitarians are correct the people who whoever

00:07:36.880 were when the nicene creed was being hashed out they were going they weren't just making stuff

00:07:41.700 up out of thin air they were they were basing it off real biblical concepts most mostly john

00:07:47.620 so i would say i would say yes and no it wasn't clear and that's what that's what jerome was

00:07:52.840 doing jerome was trying to make it more he's trying to make you hit it like you see it you

00:07:57.320 can't miss it um but and and by the way first the letter first john this is called the joe

00:08:03.620 henine text john the letters of john and revelation are all considered like one group of

00:08:09.080 text probably written by the same author or authors whereas luke acts is another group of

00:08:14.160 luke and acts go together that's like a one author wrote luke and acts and then the paulian epistles

00:08:18.740 all that stuff but anyways whoever wrote first john does say these three are one so there is

00:08:25.340 there is that so okay so the trinity it's a it's a nuance it's a nuanced thing it develops over time

00:08:31.440 it becomes standardized in the fourth century by the nicene creed but i would argue there is

00:08:36.360 biblical roots to the trinity i'm not going to say there isn't now now to go back to my to what

00:08:40.920 was happening with my my studies when i went i wanted to check i said is that true is it really

00:08:47.320 that the latin bible is who added these verses so i learned i started to pick up a little bit of

00:08:52.260 greek i started getting greek tutors and i started to learn a little bit of hebrew as well on my own

00:08:57.740 just learning online and and using apps and paying for tutors and i picked up the basics i'm getting

00:09:04.380 pretty good now i'm getting a little more advanced now but back then it was basics i was able i was

00:09:08.700 able to just like kind of transcribe things you can so there's a website you can go to where it

00:09:13.660 shows you photographs of manuscripts of biblical text so these are oxyrhynchus papyri dead sea

00:09:19.900 scrolls papyri wherever some some papyri from rome somewhere um and you can look at the picture of it

00:09:26.460 and you can you can read if you can read greek you can look at the text and you can go and you

00:09:30.860 you can compare it to modern bibles so i was i was doing this this is like 10 years ago now

00:09:36.220 or no maybe like eight to ten years ago and um and so i found out to make a long story short i

00:09:43.400 found out that my church was wrong and i was like wow i'm i'm at a false i'm at a false church

00:09:48.600 teaching false things that are not true so i was like and i went back there on the bible study and

00:09:54.660 i brought this up to the to the church i said look um i brought a picture of the manuscript by the

00:10:01.560 way i brought a picture printed out for my printer to the bible study and i said here's a greek

00:10:07.640 manuscript right here this is the oldest one we have the most fullest oldest one we have

00:10:12.000 and it's here's first john and it doesn't say these three are one father son holy spirit i go

00:10:18.380 you can see it it ends right here these three are one and then the next word picks up and they're

00:10:24.120 all they're all putting their glasses on they're all looking at it and they're all i'm just it's

00:10:27.320 me and a couple guys that are doing bible we had a bible study for everyone and then we do a we do

00:10:31.860 a more a more deeper bible study for the more serious nerds this is what this was that this

00:10:37.560 was that at so we're sitting there and uh the pastor mike he's looking at with his glasses and

00:10:42.160 he's like he said yeah there's different manuscript traditions and i'm sure that this one probably

00:10:47.620 just has the false reading and i said well i goes okay fair maybe there is different ones

00:10:52.260 can you provide me a one that that provides your interpretation and he he uh he called his friend

00:11:00.540 over who was like a a really knowledgeable guy and the guy walked over and he says yeah it's in

00:11:06.300 jerome's bible i go that's latin that's from the fifth century fourth century sorry uh late fourth

00:11:15.000 century and i go that's what he he goes yeah but jerome must have had this is what he said

00:11:20.300 jerome must have had original greek manuscripts that we lost so i'm like all right now we're just

00:11:26.460 making now we're just pretending that this is all true this you're just going this is another thing

00:11:30.240 that i if you if you follow me on twitter is like i'm i'm again i i will sometimes um attack

00:11:37.920 people who are just trying to push narratives rather than be truthful and sometimes i'll i'll

00:11:44.080 i'll get people get like come on dude he's not he's just kind of saying people get mad at me for

00:11:48.680 that and I'm sure and I'm working on not being so rude to people I'm trying to

00:11:51.920 stop that but like this is one of those cases where you're no longer trying to

00:11:56.960 find out the truth about this matter you're you just want the King James

00:12:00.860 Bible to be the perfect Bible you're you're looking for reasons to make this

00:12:04.700 true hmm so I this is how I this is how I got into the soul sort of mindset of

00:12:09.380 good methodology and searching for the truth and and then sorry let's go ahead

00:12:14.840 Did you talk to any, like, Catholics about it since you grew up Catholic and then you switched, like, to talk more with...

00:12:21.460 I tried.

00:12:22.540 I tried doing that.

00:12:23.660 And Catholics just seem...

00:12:25.020 At least...

00:12:25.640 And this is just my experience.

00:12:26.860 There's probably some good Catholic theologians out there who would be willing to have deep conversations.

00:12:31.460 But every time I tried to pull aside a Catholic, they just didn't care.

00:12:35.420 Catholics are, like, laid back.

00:12:37.020 They're all about tradition.

00:12:38.500 And I kind of respect this about Catholics.

00:12:39.960 Yeah, I like that, too.

00:12:40.780 They're not...

00:12:41.340 The Protestants are the nerds.

00:12:42.680 the protestants are like no this manuscript says this and this one says this the catholics are just

00:12:48.180 like so what we have the church we have the ritual we have the eucharist we have baptism

00:12:54.500 that's all and i and i get that that's actually very pagan yeah it's not about what the text says

00:13:03.460 it's about the ritual it's about continuing the tradition that your ancestors laid out for you

00:13:09.100 I love that.

00:13:09.900 Yeah, that's huge for what to say that Catholicism is syncretic paganism and Christianity.

00:13:14.420 I don't know what the Catholics actually think when I say that,

00:13:16.840 but for me, the sort of charm with Catholicism is that...

00:13:20.300 I agree.

00:13:20.940 And I can only suppose that you have so many different, especially in America,

00:13:24.620 but we have here in Sweden as well, actually, you know,

00:13:26.340 there's Protestant sects and they're sort of diverging to even smaller sects

00:13:30.820 and they become really, really fanatical.

00:13:32.900 So that's something I don't really see in Catholicism.

00:13:35.340 Catholicism, I know you have the split between the Second Vatican Council from the 60s, something like that.

00:13:41.340 But in Protestantism, you have so many different and I can always suppose that because of their emphasis on scripture all the time and then different interpretations and whatnot.

00:13:50.460 And I also think that's just the German way.

00:13:52.620 It's like the Germans always had loosely, loosely confederacies of peoples, but they all ruled themselves and they all had their own chieftains and they all had their own city states.

00:14:04.380 They never completely unified until the Holy Roman Empire tried doing it, and then Second Reich, Third Reich.

00:14:12.140 That's the first time Germany actually gets unified.

00:14:15.220 But going back to the Protestants, their mindset was like, well, we can just have our own church.

00:14:20.620 We don't need a Catholic church.

00:14:21.780 We'll just do it ourselves.

00:14:22.920 And then you end up seeing all these Germanic lands having their own churches and having their own sets of doctrines, which makes a lot of sense.

00:14:31.700 Yeah, we had also, so when we did the reformation, Sweden was quite impoverished because we had the Kalmar Union, so it was a Scandinavian union with Denmark, and that was sort of the main player then.

00:14:43.200 So then Gustav Vasa, that's like one of our greatest kings, he did away with the union, and when he did that big war against the union, against Denmark, he needed some liquidity.

00:14:54.620 and the churches of course they had built up a lot of treasure over the centuries uh so he's

00:15:00.720 simply that was a convenient way for him to just break away from rome and then also to seize a lot

00:15:06.860 of treasury i know that henry the eighth in um in merry old england he did something similar so it

00:15:13.300 was convenient from a like political perspective as well and then also i know that you know

00:15:20.000 allegiance to rome if you are in sweden it's quite far off to be honest right um yeah they

00:15:25.720 didn't have they didn't have a long history with rome like like france did you know yeah so it was

00:15:31.840 very much easier for them to break off and do their own thing when you don't have that they

00:15:36.000 were the last that's the last lands for rome for i mean it's not even rome anymore it's just

00:15:41.160 it's like the frankish rome is holy romans at that point but um but yeah like you said there's

00:15:47.440 there's not much ties there

00:15:49.060 and actually

00:15:51.480 real quick on that last point

00:15:53.240 I would actually argue that a lot of the chivalry

00:15:55.380 stuff is not

00:15:56.680 a lot of people will say it's all like adopting

00:15:59.200 Roman culture

00:16:00.840 I would argue that a lot of that's German to begin

00:16:03.380 with and it's going in the other direction

00:16:05.460 yes I view

00:16:07.200 chivalry as the Germanic

00:16:09.780 and the Celtic warrior ethos

00:16:11.760 and also the Roman warrior ethos

00:16:13.620 so from before they declined

00:16:15.480 in the later stages of the western roman empire then plus one christian thing one catholic thing

00:16:21.640 would be the humility which i sort of i can appreciate it but humility today when we see

00:16:27.140 the pope and he is you know four open borders everything like that today the last thing we

00:16:32.560 need is that kind of humility the last thing we need is to you know turn in the other cheek

00:16:36.700 back in the day when you have so iceland is actually a good example i'm gonna i'm gonna

00:16:41.520 defend christianity here for once usually i'm quite skeptic but they had blood feuds between you know

00:16:48.240 stretching back centuries one family having a blood feud against another christianity sort of

00:16:52.960 cooled things down a bit in iceland for example now in sweden's case it was more like um

00:16:59.120 an economic convenience you could trade better with the franks the frankish empire and they

00:17:04.000 had like the white christ sold in as a warrior god in the pantheon of the germanics so it was

00:17:10.000 a quite easy sell so perhaps you read the book the early germanization of christianity yeah it's like

00:17:18.400 first christianity is molded by greek roman tradition and then by the celtic celto germanic

00:17:24.400 one so then you have this warrior ethos and then you add a touch of humility that was good then

00:17:29.760 i'm not saying that is good now it's not the energy we did now but back then when you had

00:17:34.400 you know there's ruthless warriors and then you had a touch of humility it yeah creates chivalry

00:17:39.680 great stuff yeah it's it's like it's like a good medicine that you take when you need it to be

00:17:43.840 prescribed but you don't want to overdose on yeah i'm just all just taking humility all the time

00:17:49.360 yeah you end up with uh some pretty interesting states we'll say that yeah definitely we have in

00:17:56.560 i suppose i think the orthodox church is the only one who's not completely anti-european

00:18:01.760 because we have the protestants in europe and america very anti anti-europe anti-europe anti-white

00:18:08.800 open borders bring them in catholics as well so if you look at i know this is the case in america

00:18:13.920 if you look at religious organizations you have um you know jewish ones protestants ones and

00:18:20.560 catholic ones so i'm not sure how it is about orthodox but uh yeah the the current church is

00:18:26.160 it's completely completely wrecked and i was actually going to ask you about this um now we

00:18:32.000 can get back to the origin story because it's interesting but just a side note do you think

00:18:36.560 that christianity has an in like an inborn weakness when it comes to openness and universalism

00:18:45.760 or is it more dependent on zeitgeist or do you think christianity can be can be good can it

00:18:51.280 it be redeemed, or is it better to just leave it behind forever?

The Golden One - February 06, 2026

Gnostic Informant on the Origins of the Bible and the Ancient World

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