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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show. It is great to have
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you with us. Thanks for joining us. We're only halfway through the week and it's already been
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an eventful week on Capitol Hill. Yesterday, our friend Congressman Tim Burchett was giving
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an interview to NPR when the neighborhood wannabe gangster and former Speaker of the House,
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Kevin McCarthy, walked by with his security detail and then elbowed Burchett from behind,
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a blow to his kidney. Here's Tim telling us how it happened. Well, I was doing an interview with
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Claudia from NPR, a lovely lady, and she was asking me a question and at that time I got elbowed in the
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back and it kind of caught me off guard because it was a clean shot to the kidneys and I turned back
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and there was Kevin. And for a minute, I was kind of, what the heck just happened? And then I chased
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after him. Of course, he's, as I've stated many times, he's a bully with $17 million in a security
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detail. He's the type of guy that when you're a kid would throw a rock over the fence and run home
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and hide behind his mama's skirt. And he just, you know, he, he, uh, from behind that kind of stuff.
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It, you know, that's not the way we handle things in East Tennessee. We, we, if we have a problem
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with somebody, I'm going to look them in the eye and talk to him. That's Tim Burchett on CNN.
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Burchett is a class act and a gentleman. McCarthy, obviously a pencil neck thuggish cretin with a
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security detail. Congressman Burchett joins us here in just moments to give us the full story.
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Across the street on the Senate side, Senator Mark Wayne Mullen getting into it with a Teamster
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union boss, Sean O'Brien, during a hearing. Mullen was reading a tweet from O'Brien that made threats
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toward the Senator. Mullen, a former MMA fighter, was ready to take up the issue with O'Brien.
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He offered to fight and here is Senator Mullen in that hearing.
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It's like he's self-made. Sir, I wish he was in the truck with me when I was building my plumbing
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company myself and my wife was running the office because I sure remember working pretty hard in long
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hours. Pretends like he's self-made. What a clown. Fraud. Always has been. Always will be. Quit the
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tough guy act and these Senate hearings. You know where to find me. Any place, any time, cowboy.
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Sir, this is a time. This is a place. You want to run your mouth. We can be two consenting adults.
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We can finish it here. Okay, that's fine. Perfect. You want to do it now? I'd love to do it right now.
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Well, stand your butt up then. You stand your butt up. Oh, hold on. Oh, stop it. Is that your
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solution? No, no, sit down. Sit down. Okay. You know, you're a United States senator.
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Sit down. Sit down. Okay. Sit down, please. All right. Can I respond? Hold it. Hold it.
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If we can't. No, I have the mic. I'm sorry. This is what he said. Hold it. You'll have your time.
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Okay. Can I respond? Oh, no, you can't. This is a hearing. Senator Bernie Sanders, by the way,
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was that mediator you heard there briefly at the end. Folks, Capitol Hill is starting to sound a lot
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like Dodge City in the day. After 11 months of having a rhino speaker of the House, we finally have an
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America First speaker, Speaker Mike Johnson. Johnson yesterday did what Kevin McCarthy just
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couldn't bring himself to do, endorse the only proven America First candidate in the race for
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president. I have endorsed him wholeheartedly. Look, I was one of the closest allies that President
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Trump had in Congress. He had a phenomenal first term. Those first two years, as you all know,
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we brought about the greatest economic numbers in the history of the world, not just the country,
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because his policies worked. And I'm all in for President Trump. I expect he'll be our nominee.
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Yeah. And he's going to win it. And we have to make Biden a one-term president. We have to do that.
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Speaker Johnson making it crystal clear his enthusiastic endorsement of President Trump
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and the urgency of ending the Biden regime's destructive policies and direction. President
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Trump remains under assault from every direction by the Marxist Dems. His biggest fanboy being,
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of course, junkyard jackal special counsel, Jack Smith. Smith caught once again, letting his
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aggressive nature get the best of him. The unhinged special counsel lashed out at President Trump in
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another motion, opposing cameras in the courtroom for Trump's January 6th trial. Smith went so far as
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to compare President Trump's case to the Boston Marathon bombers case. Smith's team also claimed Trump
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wants to create a carnival atmosphere, hoping, Smith says, to distract from the charges against
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him. Smith is the only one who's created a carnival atmosphere with his phony sham indictments that he
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brought trying to interfere with President Trump and the outcome of the 2024 election. Smith is terrified
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of having cameras in the courtroom because he's seen firsthand the effect it had on his poll numbers so far.
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Smith is an awful coward and the American people have the right to know what's happening to their
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president in a courtroom filled with Marxist Dems operatives and activists. And my guess is
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the federal government understands that courtroom better be open. And the rhinos in the House of
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Reps are hard at work protecting the Marxist Dems and the Biden administration who, well, they mean to
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destroy America. On Monday, eight Republicans joined with the Marxist Dems to kill the impeachment of
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DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas. The eight, rather a symbolic number. It just so happens to be the same
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number the Republicans who voted to oust McCarthy as Speaker. Was this retaliation by the Kevin McCarthy
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supporters? Is that a conspiracy theory? Well, perhaps. But you can't help but notice the symmetry and the
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symbolism that make it possible. Here are those eight rhinos who voted to save Mayorkas instead of
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impeach him for what he has done to this country. They are Patrick McHenry of North Carolina, Tom
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McClintock of California, Virginia Fox of North Carolina, Daryl Issa of California, Clint Bentz, Oregon,
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Ken Buck, Colorado, Mike Turner, Ohio, and yes, John Duarte of California. A conspiracy? Maybe.
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Maybe not. But when you see Ken Buck, Mike Turner, Tom McClintock, and McCarthy's best pal Patrick
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McHenry and Virginia Fox all on the same list, it makes you wonder. I suspect those names will be on
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the obstructionist list for a very long time. I want to bring in now our guest today, as promised,
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Congressman Tim Burchett. Congressman, great to have you back with us on The Great America Show.
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Kevin McCarthy, the government wannabe gangster. Tell us, if you will, in your words,
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what went on between you and the fired Speaker of the House?
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Well, we were leaving our conference meeting, and I'm always trying to do interviews with reporters,
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especially those that maybe don't always get, you know, the first line of deal. And it was NPR,
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a lady, her name's Claudia, and she tweeted it out. I've never, I haven't touched it on the internet
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or anything. And she tweeted it out, but she was standing there, and we were talking about the
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budget. And she's a very kind lady, and, you know, about what was going on in our conference meeting.
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And somebody hit me in my, you know, in the kidneys from behind, elbowed me or what have you.
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And I felt, I kind of fell forward into her. And she said, she said, Oh my gosh, she said,
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I've never seen that happen up here before or something like that. And, and I turned. And of
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course, I saw it was Kevin McCarthy, as he was walking by with his security detail. And I,
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I just, I didn't know what to do. I mean, it's kind of, I was a little bit in shock, you know,
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and then, and then I, and then I, honestly, I got ticked off about it. Maybe it wasn't the right
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thing to do, but I hollered at him. And then he kind of rushed me off. And I, so I ran down the hall,
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said, Hey, what the heck was that about? You know, and it's just a gutless move. I thought it was a,
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a sad asterisk on, on the end of his career. And he could have gone out on a high note,
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but he chose to do that. You know, he's, he's sitting on $17 million, which he'll use to play
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in all eight of our campaigns, I'm sure. And he's, you know, it's just, I think it shows the
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character of the person. I think that shows a very good reason why he should not be the third in line
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to the president of the United States. Yeah. At the, at the, at the least he should not be that
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at the most he should have had the guts to talk to you straight up as a man. I just, I, I, I haven't
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got a very high opinion of Kevin McCarthy and I haven't from the very beginning. I'm not a newcomer
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to that position, but, uh, and I'll admit that I have some, uh, sometimes base instincts, but this
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man, uh, is asking for somebody to whip his butt. Uh, I just can't believe he would behave like that.
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Well, I don't know what to tell you. It was an unfortunate situation. Um, you know, it's just
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unfortunate. First he said he didn't, it didn't, it didn't happen. Now he's saying he told somebody,
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he brushed, he's trying to brush me out of the way. And now he's told somebody that he was, um,
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he doesn't even remember having any contact with me. So, you know, he kind of needs to make up his
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mind and it's just, it's just a pitiful situation. Well, this from a speaker, the only speaker in
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history to go into a negotiation with the president of the United States on the death ceiling limits and
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walk out having not only lost the argument about what the death ceiling would be or when, uh, he,
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he, he lost even the limits. I mean, we've got a debt ceiling, but no limit. I mean, it's the most
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outrageous thing I've ever seen. Uh, so what has been the reaction of your colleagues in the,
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in the conference? Surprisingly, even his supporters have been very supportive of me.
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Some joke around about it, but others see the seriousness of it and just see just how pitiful it is.
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Um, I'm not, I'm honestly not a confrontational person. I don't, I'm not looking for a fight
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with him or anybody else. I just, I got to do what I've sworn to do. And, um, you know, and I've had
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numerous people reach out to me, of course, all over the country. Um, but even people in his own
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district. So it's just a very unfortunate situation and it just seems to get more, more, more and more so
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in that direction. And I, people are asking, is this a indication of where the Republican party
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is? And I say, heck no, it's an indication where Kevin McCarthy is. Yeah. Yeah. It's just unfortunate.
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You know, it's interesting. You say that because, uh, there will be those who like to expand the
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issue too. Well, it's all about the Republican party in a, in a glorious way. I hope it is.
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And by that, I mean, this Kevin McCarthy, so frustrated at being held accountable for breaking
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his promises, uh, to you and the rest of the Republican conference, never dreamed that he
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would be held accountable and lose his job because he lied, uh, cheated and stole from you, uh, which is
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what I, I consider a lie to be, uh, particularly when you're talking about the numbers of dollars that
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he's responsible for wasting, uh, through his, uh, ignorance, uh, it's that's and weakness. Uh, so I think
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it's, it's great. I think it shows how right you all were to, uh, to reject him as the speaker. Uh, and,
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and he is now known to all for what he is and that there's no getting back from that, no matter who he
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aligns himself with going forward, no matter if he tries to primary you all. Uh, but that raises another
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question, uh, if I may, Tim, and that is how does he have control of $17 million? He's no longer the
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speaker of the house. Yeah. Well, that's money that was given to him, um, to go after candidates.
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And unfortunately, some of those were Republicans. And so I guess he still has control over it and
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that's unfortunate. Yeah. Can, uh, I think that's something that could be contested very seriously.
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And I'm talking about legally, uh, it could be contested in lots of ways, but let's start with,
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uh, the court system. Have you, have you all been in conference and talked with the new speaker
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about what you're to do about that? Because this is outrageous that this man removed his speaker would
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be in control of money that was given to the speaker of the house, not to a, uh, a rogue member
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of the conference. Yeah, I'm, I'm sure, but you're going to have to go back to where some of the money
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came from. And I, I'm afraid I've heard from multiple sources that some of it came, um, um,
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you know, I, I don't know. I've heard this bankman freed guy gave money. Um, and so, you know,
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at some point of the court's going to request that back, they gave a, they gave a bunch to Democrats
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and, and a few dollars to a few Republicans, but it'd be interesting if they're going to require
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that to be returned. And, um, you know, it just was this money given for, you know, just to do what
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he saw fit to do with, I don't know. I don't know. I, you know, a lot of that money I'm sure was given
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to elect Republicans and, um, and that was the caveat. And so, um, I, I don't know. I just don't
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know. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a little, I'm, I'm not the legal person. I've thought about that. Um,
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especially since I've recently heard about, I've been asked about it by other media members than
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yourself. And, um, and so that's a great curiosity because if he's able to, then I think that sets
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a very bad precedence about where we're headed. Yeah. This is, it's truly nauseating to think that
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this man was the speaker of the, uh, of the house of representatives. It just, I said, it's just,
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can you hear me now? Yes, sir. I'm sorry. It's nauseating to think that this man was speaker of
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the house and with his conduct, uh, it's, we're going to take a quick break here, uh, congressman,
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we're going to come right back. And when we do, I'm going to ask you, uh, what do you think the
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conference and the speaker should do, uh, to this man for his conduct, because he is outside every
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bound of, uh, uh, of professional conduct and decency. We're coming right back. We're talking with
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a great American congressman, Tim Burchett. We'll be right back.
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We're back with Congressman Tim Burchett and Congressman, let me ask you this. It's, uh,
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is there, is it in your mind at all to, to bring an assault charge against him for hitting you?
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No, I've been asked actually, um, by several people about that. Uh, you know, and I'm not
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going to file an ethics complaint. I'm about civility and governing and honestly. Um, and so
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I just don't think that's going to help matters. I'm, I'm a big boy, you know, in East Tennessee
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or in Tennessee in general, most of our fights are handled face to face. It's not the sucker punches.
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Maybe that's the way it's done in California. I don't know, but we're going to, we're going to
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take the high road on this one and just, and just do what, what we should do. And that's,
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we're going to get back to running this country. I'd hope this is a, this is a terrible distraction,
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Lou, as you can realize. And it's, um, we need to be focusing on what's going on in Israel right
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now and then focusing on our budget and getting, getting something out of here. Um, that's,
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Well, I, I would expect nothing less of you than the response you've just given us.
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I want to turn to that issue on the staggered laddered, uh, CR. Are you going to support
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that? The proposal of the new speaker, uh, Mike Johnson?
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Uh, no, I'm not. I support Mike Johnson. I think it's just a, um, it's, it's just a
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continuation. And I see that. And they're talking about, um, uh, you know, they're, it's, uh,
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continued funding Pelosi's and Schumer's old, old programs, our terrible situation at the
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border, all of our woke programs that we're funding all over the world. And it's just a
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continuation of that Lou reality is, but Mike Johnson's had two weeks to work on it. Kevin
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McCarthy had since January, and then he jammed us up against the September 30th deadline by
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taking the entire month of August and two weeks into September. And he, um, you know,
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it just, he, uh, uh, put us in a bad situation and that's the way they do it on purpose because
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that's the way they grease the lobbyists and take care of the special interest. And then
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folks like me and you never know what's in it until it's the classic Nancy Pelosi. You got
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to pass it to know what's in it. So I'm, uh, you know, but I do support Mike. He's in a tough,
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tough position, but he has not lied to us. So I take that as a, as a good sign.
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I take it as a good sign too, but I also take it as a better sign. If the man stands up and says,
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hell or high most, you're not going to, uh, get a, get a response from us that you demand.
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You're going to get our response. And if it takes an extra month, it's so be it
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because you put us in this position. I am so sick and tired. And I know you,
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you must be as well of seeing, uh, seeing the, the good guys lose because they want to play by
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the rules. Uh, this is time to win. It is not a time to stand up and, uh, uh, you know,
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virtue signal. This is a time to win for the American people. And I, I know you agree with me on that.
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Uh, 100% Lou. That's, that's, that's primarily the reason I won't be voting for it. I just can't
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in good conscience do that. I think we've, we're rewarding bad behavior and, um, you know,
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and I think the Democrats are, are holding out on this laddered CR, which is just a continuation
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to me is laughable. Uh, it's exactly what they want. And they're going to, they're brayer rabbit.
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Oh, don't throw me in that brayer patch, you know? And it's, it's right where they want to be.
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It's the spending levels that they've requested. It's all the crazy liberal programs that they want.
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And how are any, you know, it's like the, uh, the refusal, uh, to, uh, to impeach Mayorkas,
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the refusal. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Send it back to committee. You know, I, you know, going back to
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this budget thing, Lou, one thing that needs to be made clear, we're funding terrorists. I, I,
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this morning in testimony, I got, I tweeted about it at my app in merchant Twitter site. Um, we,
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we are funding the Taliban, $10 million. We found just through our United nations, which is American
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tax dollars, you know, that gun, what are we even doing in the UN? All they do is fund our enemies
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and spy on us and burn our flag. And then we've got $7 billion worth of armament that we know that
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we've, that we've given them to this administration. So, you know, those are the kinds of things that
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we continue to fund. We're, we're funding Hamas. They'll say, Oh, it's humanitarian aid, but you
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know, good and well, uh, this is, you're going to give Hamas money that a group that has pulled up
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the water pipes. And, um, so they can build missiles and they've jacked up their water table
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and it's got all it's sewage and, and water all running together. And so they're just poisoning their
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own people. And yet this is the people that they voted in. And yet this country is backdooring them
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money, millions and millions of dollars. And they're saying it's, it's, we're taking care of
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the kids. We're, you know, building hospitals, what have you. And then they put their hospital
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on top of the largest, their largest military installation. So we've got to, we can do better.
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We need to do better. We need to do our homework. And I'm with you. I'm, I'm, I'm ready to die on the
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page because we're going to lose our country. If we can't get this fiscal ship in order.
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No doubt about it. I strongly believe in that view. Uh, we are at an existential moment where
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this is a pivotal moment in our history. And I can't, I can't, I can't express how disappointed
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I think most Americans are right now who saw Mike Johnson is the great hope after Kevin McCarthy.
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Uh, and I have to close with this. Why does, uh, I'm going to ask one question first. Why the heck
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does Kevin McCarthy still have a security detail? He's no longer speaker.
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That's a good question. That was brought up to me today as one of them kind of brushed me off.
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Um, as I was getting in the middle of his little posse, I guess, so to speak.
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Um, I have no idea. I don't know how that works. I wouldn't want him, I wouldn't wish, wish him any
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harm, but I, you know, I live with the threats all the time and even back in Tennessee. So, um,
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yeah. And then I've had security details try to follow me and, you know, I've had the, um,
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air marshals in airports come up to me and, and I, you know, and so I get it that I don't know.
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I'm not, I'm not, I'm just not sure. I don't know the rules. I don't know the rules on that.
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Had him come up to me to say they were, I guess, assigned to me. I don't know. I, you know,
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maybe something, you know, I'm a lover, not a fighter. I can't believe anybody would want to
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take out Tim Burchett, but I guess at some point that was the case. I don't know. You know,
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and some, something was going on up here. I wasn't really sure, but you know, they followed me out
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of the plane when I, we went, we had to be, we went to, uh, Charlotte, um, um, a year ago or so.
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Well, I'm glad that, uh, the right kind of people have the right kind of guy, uh, that they want to
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protect. So, uh, good for you and good for all of us. In conclusion, why would, why would
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Mike Johnson give in to the Dems, uh, not even a month into the job?
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I think he's just trying to get his feet on the ground. Well, he needs to get a little air
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and, um, he truly wants to pass a budget. And I believe that, but, um, well, you know,
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everybody's worried about losing, losing the majority. I'm worried about losing the country.
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Yeah. If we can't, if we can't figure out this spending, I, I go back to the night Bill Clinton
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won the white house and there was my daddy and me. We'd worked the polls. We were watching the
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results. We were having a, as I like to say, a traditional Italian meal of a Mr. Daddy's pizza
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in front of us. And daddy said the blessing. It was one of those little portable colored TVs was on our
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living room table there at 82 20 Bennington drive in West Knoxville. And daddy, he said a simple
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prayer. He said, Lord, please don't let us lose our country. And I find myself saying that prayer
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over and over because I really think the country that Charlie Burchett fought and killed people
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for and Joyce Burchett lost her brother fighting the Nazis. My daddy was all fighting the Japanese
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and she flew and my mama flew an airplane during the second world. That country is, we're closing
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the door on that country. I'm afraid. Well, I know you've got your foot in the door and we thank
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you for all that you're doing and all that you do, uh, for this country, uh, Congressman,
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Tim Burchett. Thanks for being with us here on the great America show. Always great to talk with you
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and, uh, uh, God bless America. Yes, sir. Thank you, Lou. And to keep putting out the truth,
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brother, that's we're over the target. Just keep firing. And God bless Tim Burchett. Thank you.
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Thank you, brother. Thanks to Congressman Burchett. Thank you everybody for being with us today.
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Our guest here tomorrow on the great America show, great American Congressman Andy Biggs. Please join
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us tomorrow. Join us each and every day. Thank you, everybody. God bless you and may God bless America.