Inflation has surged to levels unseen in 40 years and is threatening to wipe away our savings and wipe out our savings. Meanwhile, the House of Representatives is heading toward a government shutdown, and all eyes are on the mid-term elections.
00:01:28.020We're just days from a potential government shutdown and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy still has no plan to fund the federal government.
00:01:36.380In the midst of all that is going on, McCarthy sent all members of Congress home last Friday.
00:01:42.300The House Conservatives and the Freedom Caucus proposing now four single-subject spending bills that McCarthy could take up this week,
00:01:50.620if he so chooses, that will be stopgap spending measures, short-term funding of the government.
00:01:57.540Congressman Matt Gaetz telling Fox News without the Freedom Caucus McCarthy wouldn't even entertain the idea.
00:02:04.780By the way, don't give Kevin McCarthy credit for the fact that we're moving on to these four appropriations bills.
00:02:10.040That was the deal that House Conservatives foisted upon Kevin McCarthy when he couldn't just move the big spending bills without moving the bills that cut spending.
00:02:17.960We said, no, no, no. You have to move bills like the state and foreign ops bill because we don't think we should be borrowing money from China to go fund gay pride parades in Prague or LGBTQ seminars in Indonesia.
00:02:30.940We don't think that that's a good use of our money.
00:02:33.180And the only way to do this, Maria, is line by line.
00:02:35.780Kevin wants it in one big up or down vote.
00:02:38.180Keep the government open. Shut it down.
00:15:06.200And you've got to agree on those priorities.
00:15:09.260And what I sensed, what the Republican leadership was dealing with, is you had a lot of members who were saying, and look, and I'm not, I don't, you know, I have no, like we talked about, there's so many issues you and I can go through that are problems in our government.
00:15:26.560And, I mean, look, they corrupted the National Archives, for God's sake, right?
00:15:31.220So you could have one member saying, I want to shut off funding for the National Archives until they figure out the corruption at the National Archives.
00:15:41.180The archives have been corrupted, Lou.
00:15:43.180But, you know, you start talking about archives and, you know, the guy that doesn't pay attention all of a sudden, you know, his little shop that's on the edge of Yosemite National Park, you know, areas that I used to represent.
00:15:55.840You know, he's like, I don't know what the archives are, and I'm now losing thousands of dollars a day.
00:16:11.280You've got poor people like Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro that are going to be put in jail and convicted for not disclosing things to Congress that you have the Biden administration and their whole host of issues.
00:16:22.480Those things the American people understand.
00:16:25.380And, of course, the flow across the border, that's starting to, you know, even resonate in places like New York City.
00:16:33.460Look, another issue that I heard last week that's totally legitimate.
00:17:31.880But when you couple that with, and I'm going to paraphrase what he said, but, you know, he made some references to, at the United Nations, to wanting to, you know, to this big problem with global warming and climate change.
00:17:48.420And a lot of Republican members, and, you know, myself as just a citizen now, what did he say?
00:17:56.880You just lost, like, maybe, we don't know the real numbers because we don't get the real numbers, but 50,000 casualties this year?
00:18:05.660And you're going to the United Nations in your camouflage and you're talking about global warming?
00:18:11.020You know, something doesn't make sense.
00:18:13.420And I think a lot of Republicans, including Speaker McCarthy, are like, yeah, you're not going to come and give that speech to, you know, to the U.S. Congress.
00:18:20.220So, look, I'm bringing this up because it's a legitimate issue for people not to want to fund Ukraine or to raise questions about what's happening in Ukraine.
00:18:31.260But does it rise to the level of corruption at the DOJ and corruption at the border?
00:18:51.640But it's not going to move the ball at the end of the day when you've got to stay tight and focused and really deliver to the American people.
00:19:00.820Why are you not doing a fully funded budget for a year?
00:19:04.560And why are you doing this – you know, why are you just doing, like, short CRs, which is called the continuing resolution?
00:19:11.460It's because these problems have not been dealt with.
00:19:15.100Solve the DOJ problem and solve the border problem, then we can deal with the other stuff.
00:19:19.620And I think they can – you know, look, it's not easy to win these messaging wars, Lou.
00:19:26.120I mean, that's why I left, to go start True Social because we were all being censored.
00:19:30.120And, you know, as I realized – I think I mentioned this last time I was on your show – when I did the Russia hoax investigation, I was amazed that by – remember, that started in 2017.
00:19:43.380And, you know, we did all the investigation.
00:19:46.320We had – you know, we sent it all over to the DOJ.
00:19:51.980We had all these reports that had come out.
00:19:53.580It was clear that the Russia deal was a hoax.
00:19:57.600But when you looked at the polling after 2020, half of Americans still believed that Donald Trump and the Republicans, including in the House, like guys like me, had a Russia problem, that we were – that we were somehow had done something nefarious with Russia.
00:20:14.160Now, you see that, and you know that the power of propaganda that the left has today is more powerful than it's ever been.
00:20:22.840And you see that every day with their control, what comes out daily on their control over the social media companies.
00:20:29.100And you're reaching now into the – if you will, the holistic number one message.
00:20:36.400And that, in my judgment, is the American people have to understand that the Biden regime, the Obama-Biden-Marxist-Dem regime that has controlled now three different presidencies, Obama, two terms, and Biden, hopefully one term.
00:21:02.520It is incredible that people don't understand we're not only talking about the problems, but these problems that you've enunciated, whether it is the corruption, whether it is the border, whether it is the budget, whether it is intelligence, whether it is foreign policy, whether it extends to China as well as to Russia, whether it extends to Iran as well as this hemisphere and what we've permitted.
00:21:31.180We are talking about all of this – going back to your point – the inception of all of this is Obama.
00:21:40.280And the reason there is such wild, I think, crazed protection of a puppet president is because it reaches to the deep state broadly and specifically back to the Obama presidency, just as you've outlined.
00:21:59.680We're going to continue with Devin Nunes.
00:22:29.660You're talking about the policies that you're talking about the policies that you're talking about and the architecture of corruption that the Republican Party faces and the Marxist party and the Obama, if you will, the Obama legacy that is, in fact, animating the Biden puppet presidency.
00:22:51.160Well, one of the things that you said in the last segment that I thought that maybe I would just add to – and I hate to say this, but I think it's important to actually lay it all out there so that people understand.
00:23:08.160You made the comment that they've controlled Obama, you know, eight years of Obama, four years of Biden.
00:23:17.020But I would actually add to that, sadly, that I think we – the American people need to understand.
00:23:25.160They also controlled most of the Trump administration, not Donald Trump, not, you know, not, you know, the good guys that were many good people that served for the Trump administration.
00:23:35.060But let's not forget that – and this has yet to be dealt with.
00:23:40.520It goes back to my issue of why the DOJ corruption is so important.
00:23:44.740And we – I had to sit and investigate the Ukraine impeachment hoax.
00:23:50.840I was the lead Republican on that ridiculous investigation, okay?
00:23:55.800And the FBI and the DOJ were sitting on documents about exactly what Donald Trump had every right to do about the corruption in Ukraine.
00:24:08.160I had – all my time in Congress, every time I went to Ukraine, every time I met with Ukrainians, the State Department, I'm talking to the Bush administration, to the Obama administration, you would always get briefed and they would say, now, you know, congressmen, you know that Ukraine has a lot of corruption here.
00:24:27.080You need to make sure that you talk about good governance, having a good justice system, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, because they've got a lot of corruption in Ukraine, okay?
00:24:35.480So that was the position of our government.
00:24:38.280It's been that way for a very, very long time.
00:25:09.340A good friend of yours and ours, John Solomon, you know, he had to go start his own news organization because where he was at, he was reporting on the Ukraine corruption and the ties to Biden.
00:25:23.820And we went through this whole, you know, impeachment hoax, and it was the Ukraine impeachment hoax, and it was a hoax, knowing that the FBI, so this is why I say they controlled, the deep state controlled the narrative.
00:25:38.860They sat on information where they knew that Hunter and Joe Biden had many problems in Ukraine.
00:25:45.420So what Trump did was exactly what he was elected to do as the president of the United States, which is to support the position of both Republicans and Democrats that Ukraine has a corruption problem, and our own government not only sat on those documents, even under subpoena, where they should have provided all that information to me and my committee back at the time when we were running that investigation.
00:26:12.400So how do I, you know, I hate to say this, but, you know, Donald Trump and all of us, I mean, we didn't even realize that how deep the corruption was.
00:26:21.300And we impeached President Trump over something that our own government knew was nonsense.
00:26:27.200And which has been proved and demonstrated throughout as a result of some investigative reporting, some considerable number of whistleblowers in various levels, and the John Durham investigation, which is overall a disappointment, but which has within it elements of important truths that he did reveal.
00:26:52.620The matter is to me, and I think you've raised just a really profound thought that should be in everyone's forefront of their thinking about all that has transpired from Obama forward to the present moment.
00:27:10.300And that is, and that is, the deep state has been the constant current that runs through it all.
00:27:16.440Our corrupt intelligence agencies, our corrupt Department of Justice, our corrupt, in many cases, judiciary, and particularly the D.C. judiciary, and I'm talking about from district courts to the appellate courts in D.C.
00:27:33.700But the fact of the matter is, we witnessed over the course of that time, the efforts of the Marxist Dems to destroy the first political opponent in Donald Trump.
00:27:47.840They did everything they could in 2015 and 16, and obviously so in 16, then throughout his presidency to overthrow him as a duly elected president.
00:27:59.700And now, four indictments, I think, what is it, 90-some-odd charges, facing 700 years in prison if they were all to be a conviction.
00:29:01.820And the only thing I would add, Lou, is that just because, you know, the fake news loves to, and the Marxist Dems, as you say, you know, they love to, oh, deep state.
00:29:15.080So let's just define, you know, what is the deep state, because I think a lot of people, you know, have different views of what that means.
00:29:23.080What it really is, is the deep state is a cabal of left-wingers that originate with Obama that are either still in government, are out of government, maybe sitting on boards as, you know, getting big book contracts out on talk shows.
00:29:46.700But they're still at the highest levels of the Biden administration within the DOJ, within the FBI, and many other government agencies.
00:29:56.200So it's not a, it's not so much that there's just some, like, grand conspiracy where it's, you know, hundreds or thousands of people.
00:30:05.080It's actually a very small group that is essentially, has been using the National Security Division and other areas of the justice system, the Department of Justice.
00:30:16.860And they have, you know, systematically just taken over the government so much so that they've destroyed the justice system, and especially the Department of Justice.
00:30:26.760But I think you're exactly right, Lou, that the judiciary branch, which really should stand as the backstop for a lot of this, has itself been corrupted also.
00:30:42.900And I hate to say that, but look, you had a leak for the first time in history of the decision on Roe v. Wade that leaked out of the Supreme Court, and nothing was done about it.
00:31:03.220You had Supreme Court justices that were then targeted by extremists, and nothing was done about it.
00:31:11.440And so, you know, I just think that you're, it's just important to get out there that this isn't some deep state conspiracy of thousands and thousands of people.
00:31:21.260No, it is Obama and a small group of people that have managed to then, that are sitting in government or just outside of government.
00:31:29.020They control the fake news narratives and the propaganda, and, you know, it seems like the judges and DOJ, they kind of get the message.
00:31:38.060And, you know, you see it time and time again, and how many times have we seen where, you know, judges are, you know, making these, these, I mean, let's just, we haven't talked about January 6th.
00:31:50.060You know, there's a situation where, so you're telling me that, like, and I'm not, I have no issue, Lou, with the people who broke windows, who, who attacked police officers, who tried to organize getting into the Capitol.
00:32:05.820I have no problem with those people, I have no problem with them, you know, being indicted.
00:32:12.580I have no problem with them, you know, facing consequences for, you know, destruction of federal property, which is against the law.
00:32:18.560But where I have a problem is, is that why are these people, number one, a lot of them have been held with no hearings, okay, and they've been tried to force to plead guilty to something.
00:32:31.280You've got thousands of these people, many of whom were not even in the building that day.
00:32:36.400And then look at the difference in, these people are getting sentenced to, you know, 10 years, five years, 20 years.
00:32:45.260Okay, well, we have people that commit murder, but don't, that don't serve that much time.
00:33:22.700And what we've seen in this is it's where both the Department of Justice, the corrupt DOJ, the FBI, and the corrupt judiciary come together.
00:33:32.280We have seen annually, I would say, well, I'll just say safely, the vast majority of the cases involve overcharging by the Department of Justice,
00:33:45.040and doing so drooling as they punished these people who became really political prisoners of the Marxist left in the D.C. gulag.
00:33:56.440And they not only overcharged them, then the corrupt judiciary in Washington, D.C., imagine this, in the nation's capital, rife with corruption in our courts,
00:34:34.720I was just going to say the other thing to point out is that, you know, if it's now against the law to—you know, and you're going to be facing 10, 15, 20-year sentences for stopping a proceeding, okay?
00:34:53.200Well, I served in Congress, like, you know, for nearly two decades.
00:35:01.940Do you know how many times people would come into committee hearing rooms and stop a proceeding?
00:35:07.480I mean, I remember several times—I can't even tell you how many times I was there, but these idiots would come into the Capitol.
00:35:13.920They'd chain themselves together, and they'd all sit on the floor of the rotunda, and you'd have to evacuate all the—all the tourists would have to leave.
00:35:21.720And the Capitol Police would sit there for hours to remove them, and I don't think any of those people got any more than a slap on the wrist, if anything at all.
00:35:33.700So, you know, that's just—and then you've got—if you just juxtapose, which the left hates to do this in the fake news, but just months before that, you had the White House—you know,
00:35:48.020there were buildings that were caught on fire right across the street.
00:35:52.640You had people trying to storm the White House when Donald Trump was in there.
00:36:20.280Everybody had to be in the house except for all these people that could go out and destroy property, catch things on fire, break windows, attack police.
00:36:29.160And, look, I know you've talked about this.
00:36:30.980I've talked to it, but it just—it can't be said enough that why are these people that were there for January 6th, why are so many of them being prosecuted versus just—I think if they just would have said,
00:36:45.880look, we can't have this, people that broke the windows, we need everybody's help.
00:36:50.500This is—look at this suspect, suspect one, suspect two, suspect three.
00:36:59.980I think if they would have put out, like, the 30, 40, 50 people that broke windows or punched a cop, I don't think, Lou, you or I would have had a problem with that,
00:37:09.900with those people being arrested, being prosecuted, with the normal types of sentences.
00:37:15.760But you have—I mean, this is—I think they're like—I mean, they brag about, like, there are over 1,000 people now that have been indicted.
00:37:55.020And those videos are still not in the hands of—and it should, it seems to me, be universally in the hands of everyone who is a journalist in this country.
00:38:07.400The Republican Party should be demanding that Speaker McCarthy give those up and to make them available, because it's history.
00:38:15.780And history is now being censored, not only by Nancy Pelosi and the Marxist Dems, but by Speaker McCarthy and the Republican leadership of the House of Representatives.
00:38:25.660And that is a shame that I don't think is worth bearing.
00:38:56.940Working with Speaker McCarthy for many years, you know, this is not somebody who's operating in a nefarious manner.
00:39:02.580I think it's trying to hurt everybody that, like we talked about in the earlier segments, if you're so shotgunned approach to, you know, everybody has their own issue that they're concerned about.
00:39:13.500And this is why I continue to say focus on one thing, one or two things at a time.
00:39:19.440The most important issues at the highest level is going to be the way to get a message through and to look and to be able to, you know, look, I'm with you, Lou.
00:39:28.620I don't know that the Republicans, I don't know that there's a there's a fix for this.
00:39:31.960I mean, these guys are so the Biden administration, DOJ are so corrupt.
00:39:37.220That it could be that the only fix is going to be is to have a landslide election and get Donald Trump back into office, send more Republicans into the House of Representatives and take the United States back.
00:39:51.440I mean, because I mean, that may be the only fix.
00:39:54.120I mean, there's there's there's probably there's limited things that Republicans can do right now.
00:39:59.400But I think that showing the corruption, getting more subpoenas out, going after all of this cabal at DOJ and FBI, including I think, look, this is this may you know, you might find this a little surprising, you know, coming from me.
00:40:16.900But, you know, everybody talks about, you know, Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, impeachment, you know, inquire and all that.
00:41:06.220But but I think they have to to widen the net and the probe to focus on not just an impeachment inquiry of what Biden did wrong, but how did our own government allow this to happen for so long?
00:41:19.260And the people who covered it up are just as guilty as what the Biden's of the Biden corruption.
00:41:31.560And again, you and I agree wholeheartedly that this is a time not to stop with questions and demand answers, because you don't solve this by just incarcerating a corrupt crime family.
00:41:51.100You don't stop this by just simply taking a few leaders of the Department of Justice that is corrupt pervasively or the FBI.
00:42:01.180There has to be an accounting here and a full on investigation.
00:42:05.160And the reason I'm begging for McCarthy to release those videos in one sign of one sweep of his pen, he can release those videos and honor the public's right to know.
00:42:19.020And fundamental to all of this is the American public's traditional right to know.
00:42:25.240And whenever government doesn't respect that right is when the nation takes a step backward and directly toward totalitarianism and authoritarianism, which is what this administration and the Obama administration before it have done.
00:42:42.980Yeah, look, I think we're in the only thing that I would add, you know, to this kind of litany of issues that's that's out there is to really the Republicans really just need to, you know, they have the one power that they do have is that subpoena power.
00:43:05.560And they have they have the power to subpoena and they they just need to to widen that net.
00:43:12.060They need more documents, more bank records, just like they've they've they've they've got to the point of they've got the goods on on the Biden.
00:43:20.700Now they need to focus not so much on on that's going to take care of itself, but all the other people that are involved, which, as I've told you during this interview, it's not as many as you may think.
00:43:33.140I mean, I think I think the net is maybe two to three dozen people.
00:43:36.200I mean, you may find a few more, but the work they do today is critically important to make criminal referrals and that sort of thing, because, look, what would ironically glue here?
00:43:47.080It's funny that the that the left, what they accuse you of doing, they're actually doing the irony that they use to RICO, the RICO statutes to go after Donald Trump.
00:43:58.000That's what's happened here, that this Biden mess and Team Obama, they're the ones who have been running a criminal enterprise,
00:44:05.080essentially defrauding the United States government for what now is nearly is nearly a decade.
00:44:13.120Right. Well, it goes back, certainly to 2000, 2008, as the incipient point, I believe, with the Obama administration,
00:44:23.140with his first secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, who followed her, his vice president throughout.
00:44:32.920I mean, and it is so pervasive, as you've illuminated here today, that the Republicans are going to have to determine how much energy and conviction and power they really have.
00:44:47.240Because if they try to do one thing at a time, they will lose.
00:44:51.940I think they have to take it on holistically and comprehensively.
00:44:57.320And most importantly for the American people, to your point about messaging, they've got to be comprehensible about what they're doing.
00:45:03.920It has to be simultaneously and concurrently a an outreach to the American people about what has befallen their society, their democracy and this great republic,
00:45:17.700because it is evil and it is it will be almost impossible to reverse if it doesn't happen now.
00:45:27.280Well, we always give our guests the last word, and I always appreciate your last thoughts and concluding thoughts as I do everything you've said here today.
00:45:36.600You've been absolutely brilliant as always, and we thank you so much for that.
00:46:19.440And that's what happens when the propaganda.
00:46:21.220And I think that Team Obama have been unwilling to use the propaganda arm that they control because they know it splashes back on them.
00:46:30.420But Biden's kind of left them no choice because I think they were trying to engineer a sweetheart deal for Hunter and then have Biden just kind of kind of step away.
00:46:42.360And so there's, you know, there's going to be, I think, a lot more surprises here to come in terms of the Team Obama versus versus Biden and his family and what the Democrats and the fake news are going to do about this.
00:47:02.020Because if they can't get Biden out of the race, you know, they've got a big problem.
00:47:07.380And so I look, my money is on that, that they're going to one way or another, they're going to get him out of the race.
00:47:14.860Question is, you know, now you're going to ask me who's going to run.