The Great America Show - ALL ROADS STILL LEAD TO RUSSIAGATE： DEVIN NUNES & KASH PATEL UNCOVERED THE LARGEST CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY AND IT’S ONGOING

00:00:00.000 Hello everybody, I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show. Good to have you with us.

00:00:05.220 Comedian Dave Chappelle was doing his show in San Francisco the other night in front of a packed

00:00:10.960 house, of course, and Dave invited Alon Musk to join him on stage. So Musk steps out on the stage

00:00:18.740 and a good portion of the audience promptly booed him. Chappelle tried to get the audience to settle

00:00:24.620 down, but to no avail, after more boos, Dave decided to wrap up his show and end the evening

00:00:30.900 with a prayer. It didn't help much. The point of the story is the mystery, the mystery it contains.

00:00:38.260 Why were the people in the audience booing Alon Musk, of all people? Chappelle jokingly said it

00:00:44.900 might be that some of the people Musk had fired recently were in the audience. Maybe that is it,

00:00:50.640 who knows? Maybe, too, those folks booing just can't stand the truth. I hear that there are more

00:00:56.420 than a few left-wingers in San Francisco, so maybe the audience was, well, riddled with lefties.

00:01:04.740 But the truth of the matter is, what Alon Musk is bringing these days is truth. And right now,

00:01:10.940 he's the most energetic champion of truth and freedom of speech in the country. And he's rooting

00:01:16.120 out the truth that Twitter, for far too long, a cesspool of left-wing suppression and political

00:01:21.780 censorship, working full-time for the Marxist Dems, the Deep State, and, of course, the Biden

00:01:27.780 administration. And maybe, just maybe, the left, the progressives, the radical Dems, the Marxists,

00:01:34.180 just can't handle the truth, which is that Twitter censored conservatives, shadow banned, suspended,

00:01:40.380 and canceled conservative voices and patriots. They even banned a sitting president, remember?

00:01:46.960 Thanks to Alon Musk, we know Twitter's top executives worked with the FBI to shut down

00:01:53.220 the Hunter Biden laptop story. And Twitter banned President Trump. What we still don't know is

00:01:59.800 whether Twitter also shadow banned and cut the reach of his account during the campaign.

00:02:05.400 And how much the DOJ, FBI, and others influenced Twitter decision-making during the election?

00:02:12.720 Was the Biden campaign and the Democrat National Committee directly involved? The result is we have

00:02:19.040 a president in office whose path to the Oval Office raises a lot of questions, and the answers to which

00:02:26.040 may mean that President Trump was right all along, that the election was rigged. But perhaps it wasn't,

00:02:33.340 and if it wasn't, it wasn't because the Marxist Dems weren't trying. The result has been economic

00:02:39.660 and market dislocation, a lot of pain for middle class and working America, a war that President

00:02:46.940 Biden should have prevented, a withdrawal of our forces from Afghanistan that costs lives and tens of

00:02:53.900 billions of dollars in equipment and weaponry. And President Biden chose to bargain for the freedom

00:03:00.220 of a WNBA player held in Putin's Russia for almost 10 months, leaving behind a former Marine who's been

00:03:09.100 imprisoned for four years. Our guest today has worked on hostage negotiations and his distinguished career

00:03:15.900 in government. Our guest is Kash Patel, Center for Renewing America. Kash is a former official in

00:03:23.260 counterterrorism working for the Justice Department, a top Defense Department official, worked for President

00:03:29.180 Trump's National Security Council, and he was Congressman Devin Nunes, Chief of Staff, when Devin Nunes was the

00:03:36.540 chair of the House Intelligence Committee. Kash, great to have you back with us. I'd like to get your

00:03:41.420 thoughts first on Biden's release of arms dealer Victor Boot for our hostage. Hey, Lou, it's great to be

00:03:48.700 with you, and thanks for taking the time to talk about this. This is a topic that's near and dear to me. I led

00:03:53.580 counterterrorism for President Trump, which meant I led a lot of his hostage rescue operations and

00:03:58.620 policymaking decisions. And doing hostage rescue work is the most gut-wrenching work I've ever done

00:04:05.740 in my career in government, because you realize, other than burying fallen military service members,

00:04:10.940 this is the only thing that comes close. Because you realize there's families involved,

00:04:16.540 their loved ones are gone, and the only people that can get them back is the American government.

00:04:22.140 And Donald Trump did something substantially different than Joe Biden. He made sure he went

00:04:27.820 out on the international stage and created space for diplomatic negotiations to occur

00:04:34.700 by being strong against Xi Jinping, against Vladimir Putin and company. And Donald Trump brought home

00:04:39.900 54 hostages and detainees around the world. That's more than every president before him combined.

00:04:44.540 And look, I say this first, too, about Brittany Greiner. Whatever your thoughts are about her,

00:04:50.940 that another American is home is always a good thing. But then you have to look at the backside of 1.00

00:04:55.500 it. Did it actually jeopardize our status on the global stage? And it did. We gave up a terrorist.

00:05:04.060 That's right. A terrorist was given away by Joe Biden, a man who has supplied millions of arms to

00:05:11.020 America's enemies, and will do so again when he's back next to Putin, and response for deaths and 0.55

00:05:17.100 casualties of American and American service members. He is now back in Russia, and we did not even get

00:05:22.460 the former Marine that was there. Look, I was part of the Trump administration when we tried to get

00:05:26.220 Paul Whelan back, and we denied. And President Trump rightfully so said, we are not giving up Victor

00:05:31.340 Booth. That is too dangerous of a human being. We want Paul Whelan, our former Marine, back. By the way,

00:05:36.380 there's another American in custody there, too. We've been trying to get back. But this is a 0.97

00:05:41.740 differentiation between the two. And what the greatest fallout, Lou, from this is that there's

00:05:47.420 over a dozen other American hostages abroad in places like Afghanistan and Iran and China and Russia.

00:05:56.220 And now the world leaders of these countries know they never have to give these Americans up. And what's

00:06:01.900 worse is things like Al Qaeda, which are on the rise in Afghanistan, now know that Americans are of 0.99

00:06:07.340 value to this administration, and they will literally give away the farm to get them back.

00:06:13.180 And that weakens American posture overseas, it weakens American national security, and it targets

00:06:18.860 Americans. So while the mainstream media is lauding President Trump, President Biden's supposed

00:06:24.460 of the diplomatic skills, I just recall the facts of how this situation occurred and how a strong

00:06:31.900 commander-in-chief, Donald Trump, actually executed that mission and didn't care about the political

00:06:38.380 headlines. So we've got a long way to go on this hostage stuff, but we definitely suffered a huge loss

00:06:45.980 here. Victor Bout, the merchant of death, as he's styled in the media at least, now free to work for

00:06:57.180 energetically, Vladimir Putin. And we hear from our Pentagon, the day after the trade, the day after

00:07:07.340 the trade, they expressed their great concern about releasing Victor Bout. You understand the

00:07:16.380 the machinations of the Pentagon and the relationship to the White House and to the rest of the world,

00:07:21.900 given your experience there as a top official. How could it be that the Pentagon would be so

00:07:31.020 gutless as to make these remarks after the trade is done?

00:07:37.820 It shows you that even the cowards, the political

00:07:41.980 cowards running the Pentagon, and I'm talking about Chairman Mark Milley and Secretary Lloyd Austin,

00:07:47.900 don't even have the gumption to stand by President Biden during this decision. They know it was a

00:07:54.300 disaster. And let me circle back one thing. There is no way this hostage trade happened without the

00:08:00.860 notification and decree of the United States DOD. As the former chief of staff, as the former guy of

00:08:07.260 DOD, who is in the Oval Office negotiating top-line hostage negotiation matters, running counterterrorism

00:08:12.780 and hostage rescue operations, the Pentagon is always at the table. So they knew, and what

00:08:19.900 they're doing now is distancing themselves from Joe Biden and saying, this was such a monumentally

00:08:25.260 bad decision that we, the Pentagon, have to come up with some charade, some farce to distance ourselves

00:08:31.100 from it. But they are equally as responsible because they were unable, Austin and Milley,

00:08:36.540 were unable to stop this horrendous trade, horrific trade from going down.

00:08:41.580 And even these government gangsters at the Pentagon knows how much we have just weakened American

00:08:46.220 national security. And that's the thing most people aren't talking about. Everybody wants to celebrate

00:08:50.780 because she's some famous star. Who is out there celebrating the people that were left behind,

00:08:58.220 the Paul Whelans of the world and so many others? And that's what we need to be focusing on. But we

00:09:03.260 just made it infinitely more hard to ever get another American hostage back during this administration,

00:09:08.540 and the world now knows it. Let me ask you, with your experience, Paul Whelan, former Marine,

00:09:17.420 accused of spying, I believe he's got a 20-year sentence. What is his fate in all likelihood?

00:09:28.620 You know, I hate to say this, but having been the hostage guy for a while and running the positions I

00:09:33.900 did, I don't see this administration ever getting Paul Whelan out. It's going to take an entirely new

00:09:39.100 administration. Because Vladimir Putin got his number one guy, his number one friend, his number

00:09:46.780 one arms dealer, who is in American prison custody, serving a 25-year sentence, out. So there, and he got

00:09:55.660 Brittany Griner, which was a throwaway for him. He was going to basically release her in a year's time

00:10:01.500 anyway, because he knows how to do the propaganda machine better than most. And he, of course,

00:10:07.580 kept Paul Whelan, the U.S. Marine. There is nothing this administration can give, or turn over,

00:10:13.100 or amount of money they can print to give to Russia to get Paul Whelan back. And I hate to say this,

00:10:17.660 because look, when you run hostage negotiation matters like I did, you get infinitely close with

00:10:22.220 the families. And the hardest thing I've ever done, other than lay our soldiers to rest,

00:10:26.940 is go home and tell a mom that we did not succeed in bringing their son or daughter home, that they're

00:10:32.540 still being held captive by some terrorist organization or some dictatorship regime in Iran

00:10:40.780 or Russia or Syria. And it's brutal. It's brutal to Paul Whelan's family. It's brutal to the other

00:10:48.300 American family that's in Russia in detention. And the tragic reality is their chances of getting out just

00:10:55.980 one to zero. And the effect, as of at least now, is that Biden has left yet another Marine behind.

00:11:05.020 Putin, by the way, says, as you know, he will do business with the U.S. again. Is that a come on,

00:11:12.940 or is that, do you think, in any way an opening that could be meaningful?

00:11:18.220 I don't know what business he's talking about doing. We have now given Russia all the business 0.99

00:11:26.860 they need by allowing them to complete the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. They don't care anymore about

00:11:31.900 energy and making money off of it. They are now selling arms to the Chinese, to the Afghanistan,

00:11:38.140 to the Afghanis, to the Middle Eastern partners, who now, by the way, Xi Jinping and MBS in Saudi Arabia

00:11:44.780 are all sipping around drinking tea and making deals. And you know who's not there? The United

00:11:49.980 States of America. And you know who's paying through the nose for gasoline? The United States

00:11:53.580 of America. So I think Vladimir Putin is just poking us in the face after duping Joe Biden into

00:12:01.100 this horrific hostage negotiation swap. And now he's just flexing his muscle on the world stage to say,

00:12:08.220 oh man, maybe I'll do business with you if and when I ever feel like it, is basically the response.

00:12:12.460 What I actually think he means is he might do business again with America when there's a new

00:12:16.380 commander in chief. And I don't know if that'll happen, to be honest, because what we're looking

00:12:24.780 at right now is a Republican Party that is decimated. Mitch McConnell is a toxic rhino force in leadership.

00:12:38.620 He should not be in that job. Kevin McCarthy, by the way, he had a hostage situation and decided that

00:12:47.100 after talking with Biden, he could release the U.S. military from their mandates on vaccinations and

00:12:55.820 trying to look all the hero in winning that. I want to talk to you about the politics on Capitol Hill,

00:13:04.300 about which you know as much as anyone. We are looking at a, what would it be, a situation at

00:13:13.900 the very least that is deteriorating daily. The Kevin McCarthy wants to be speaker. He's a rhino.

00:13:20.940 He's anti-Trump, no matter what he says, no matter what he does. And Capitol Hill is just brimming with

00:13:28.140 anti-Trump, anti-MAGA, anti-America First folks. Your thoughts about the conflict for the leadership of the

00:13:38.620 Republican Party first on Capitol, well, I'll put it all together, on Capitol Hill and the Republican National

00:13:44.540 Committee. Wow, that's a lot to unpack. So yeah, let's start with Capitol Hill. Look, the biggest job that our

00:13:53.660 Republican majority in Congress has after retiring Nancy Pelosi is given the gavels to men and women 0.85

00:13:59.980 who will lead these committees, who will perform the jobs of constitutional oversight, because we know

00:14:04.700 we don't have an act, we don't have a DOJ, an FBI that is serving this country anymore based on facts

00:14:10.140 and law. I can't stress that enough. As a guy who ran the Russiagate investigation for Chairman Nunes,

00:14:15.020 we were the only ones putting out accountability when the FBI was corrupted by the Democratic National

00:14:20.380 Party in the Hillary campaign and lied to a federal court just to unlawfully surveil a political

00:14:24.940 opponent. We have so many investigations, Hunter Biden, Afghanistan, this hostage trade negotiation,

00:14:32.860 all the money deals that Joe Biden has made, not to mention the pay for play in China. No one is going

00:14:38.700 to do anything. And we are on the verge of lighting this majority on fire and basically kicking ourselves

00:14:46.940 in the face and snatching defeat from the jaws of victory because we can't get it together on Capitol

00:14:53.500 Hill. That's what's at stake. And whatever your thoughts are on Kevin McCarthy, if there is a

00:14:59.420 Republican out there. I will tell you this. No, I know. I know. But what I'm trying to say is

00:15:09.180 if we don't get a Republican leader in there who's going to give our chairmen and women in the House 1.00

00:15:15.020 side, these gavels and the authority to subpoena people and documents, then we have just lost the

00:15:20.380 last opportunity we have to stop the Joe Biden and the radical left agenda. That's what's at stake

00:15:25.980 at the United States Capitol. Let me ask you this then, Cash. Do you really believe McCarthy will

00:15:31.820 follow through on any of his so-called whispered promises about he will authorize these committees?

00:15:38.380 Do you believe he? I haven't seen it yet. He said he's going to kick off ship. She's going to kick

00:15:46.220 off ship and swallow. I said, great, that's a start. And he said he's going to make sure that

00:15:50.140 the vaccine mandate at DOD is lifted and rescinded in full. Great. I'll believe it when I see it. 1.00

00:15:55.420 He should be laying out right now. He's instead of throwing around for votes, what he should be doing

00:16:00.220 is going to the podium and saying when the Judiciary Committee's chairman is Jim Jordan,

00:16:04.940 he has unilateral subpoena authority, and he can subpoena every and any member of Congress and any

00:16:09.660 private citizen and any government gangster, and this House majority will back him to the Hill.

00:16:14.860 He has not said that. He has not given these committees authorization to get the Hunter Biden

00:16:18.700 documentation, to get the corruption at the DOJ, to get the political targeting, to get why Chris Wray

00:16:24.700 and Merrick Garland are allowed to lie to Congress and falsely claim statistics

00:16:29.900 about Donald Trump supporters just to get a political narrative out there. He should be doing

00:16:34.780 all of these things, and I'm hearing none of them. And that concerns me. And that's why I have

00:16:41.980 hesitation as to whether we'll achieve anything come January 1st. Right now, the Democrats are loving it.

00:16:47.740 What's the last time a House investigation led to accountability for anyone? And let's go back,

00:16:54.780 let's say, to the presidency of Barack Obama with Republican House leadership. I mean, I'm serious.

00:17:04.540 That's never been any accountability that resulted from a House Republican investigation in recent

00:17:12.140 history. And I mean, it's just the truth. Yeah. Yeah. And I in large part generally agree with you.

00:17:20.780 I'll disagree with you slightly, and I'll be selfish. I will say Devin and I's investigation

00:17:25.260 on Russiagate that we ran in the Republican majority in Congress led to the firing of 17 people,

00:17:30.700 and we exposed the largest criminal conspiracy the FBI has ever undertaken. Now, it wasn't far enough.

00:17:35.580 I agree. And Paul Ryan stifled us at every step of the way. I agree with that as well. We don't have

00:17:40.700 the Republican leadership with WASTA to carry it through. But I use that as an example as a glimpse of

00:17:46.780 what can happen if we actually get our acts together. But you're right, Lou. It doesn't

00:17:50.860 look like we're going to. And it looks like we're going to swing and miss yet again.

00:17:54.860 Yeah, it is. And I know the spirit in which you say that. But here's the reality. The Republicans are

00:18:04.540 adrift. They are soulless. And I know I'm offending a lot of people when I say this,

00:18:11.180 but they're soulless, they're unprincipled, and they're indolent. I don't know how else to

00:18:19.900 characterize the Republican Party right now. They have some wonderful people within their conference.

00:18:26.140 They have great people who could be leading these committees and sensibly will be, including James

00:18:32.780 Colmer, the Oversight Committee, Jim Jordan at Judiciary. But the reality is there isn't a statement

00:18:40.540 from even they that is about the strategy that they will employ, the deadlines that they will insist

00:18:49.100 upon, the accountability that will be first of all between the committee and the American people.

00:18:55.660 They should be saying right now, we're not going to do Benghazis. We're not going to do any of that 1.00

00:19:01.580 nonsense. We're going to have a 90 day window. We're going to drive this forward. There will either be

00:19:06.700 people who testify willingly, forthrightly or subpoenaed and do or do not respond. And we are

00:19:13.020 going to move forward. And and we and and they have an answer for, well, what happens when people

00:19:19.420 are guilty and you make a criminal referral to a Department of Justice that is rancid with corruption.

00:19:25.740 So tell us what the strategy is and how you're going to bring accountability, because the traditional

00:19:30.940 and conventional constitutional process does not work because of the divided power in our government.

00:19:39.820 You're absolutely right. And I only have one answer for you. And it's the answer I outlined in my book.

00:19:44.460 It's called it's called taking the money and whatever Republican ends up with the gavel.

00:19:50.060 They need to exact right now one thing, unilateral authority to not have to go to the speaker of the

00:19:55.180 House, whoever it is, for permission to act. And I'll give you a great example. We did it during

00:20:00.860 Russiagate, even though Paul Ryan wouldn't let us do it. It's called fencing the money. And you take

00:20:05.180 the taxpayer dollars that funds these bloated bureaucracies and you subpoena them for every

00:20:10.140 document and every witness. And if they withhold for even one day, you take a million dollars a day

00:20:15.020 from them and they will start cooperating. And then you will see accountability, at least in the

00:20:19.500 American public sector, in terms of producing documents and witnesses and testimony so that

00:20:24.940 we, the American people can have some sort of, again, it's not the ultimate accountability because

00:20:29.100 we don't have the DOJ and FBI, but it's up to us to prosecute these people in the court of public

00:20:35.020 opinion. And that's how we do it. So we have to be willing to take their money, our money that they

00:20:40.460 are lighting on fire. And it's the only thing these agencies respond to. The only thing these directors,

00:20:45.020 these bureaucrats, these secretaries respond to is when their budget is stifled and

00:20:49.340 suffocated. And there are a couple of Republican leaders who I know are willing to do that,

00:20:53.420 but they must exact that power right now in these trade negotiations with whatever's going on with

00:20:58.540 whatever speaker jockeying, jostling is going on. That must be demanded and received by the few

00:21:05.820 Republicans in leadership who are willing to exact that price.

00:21:13.180 I want to say to the audience right now that we all,

00:21:18.220 every one of us in this country owe a debt of gratitude to Cash, to Devin Nunes and their staffs

00:21:28.300 primarily, moving forward and getting done what they could. They actually had Russiagate figured out

00:21:35.980 from almost Jump Street. Is that a fair statement, Cash? I mean, you had, you guys had it nailed to

00:21:43.580 to begin with, and were forestalled by every kind of bureaucratic and political maneuver imaginable

00:21:50.940 within your own party. And people have no idea the degree to which Paul Ryan is the evildoer of

00:22:00.540 evildoers in what transpired in that, in those first two years after President Trump was elected.

00:22:09.500 Is that a statement you would quibble with?

00:22:13.580 No, I wouldn't quibble with it at all. I would just add the following about Paul Ryan. Paul Ryan

00:22:17.900 didn't want us to send out subpoenas. We had to force them. Paul Ryan didn't want us to take the

00:22:22.060 money from DOJ when they refused to comply with the lawfully mandated congressional subpoena.

00:22:26.940 And here's the biggest crime from Paul Ryan. There's so many, but I'm a little biased. Paul

00:22:32.460 Ryan received a copy of the Steele dossier six months before anyone else on planet Earth ever got

00:22:38.620 it. And he never told a soul while the entire Russiagate investigation was going on. For the

00:22:44.380 entire two years that I ran it with Devin Nunes, he kept that fact from us. It is like having the gun

00:22:51.420 from a bank robbery at the judge's chambers. And the judge says, oh, I didn't. Yeah, I got it. But

00:22:57.500 I didn't want to tell you guys about it. That's literally the Paul Ryan type of Republican leadership

00:23:01.980 we were dealing with. This is the guy who's running around going on Fox News telling everybody

00:23:06.780 not to have pro-Trump people on and not to follow America first agenda. That's the type of Republicans

00:23:13.020 we have to defeat, Lou. And there's no better man than you to lead the charge. In fact, I think

00:23:18.140 I'm going to go out and say we should have Lou Dobbs for Speaker of the House. That would get them 0.77

00:23:21.820 stuff done. I'm pretty sure that I have got a nature that is not disposed to success.

00:23:31.260 Yes. And I'm talking about flaws as well as presumed strength, more flaws than strength,

00:23:42.700 actually. I love the thought. Once again, for the audience, repeat what you said,

00:23:49.020 the most the greatest crime of Paul Ryan. I love the way you said it.

00:23:55.420 Sure. The Grinch crime. Remember, Paul Ryan, Speaker of the House in charge of every Republican

00:24:00.220 committee, including ours, the Intel, which was running the Russiagate investigation,

00:24:04.220 hires me and Devin puts Devin in charge and gives us the mandate to figure out what happened.

00:24:09.260 What happened at the FBI and DOJ? What happened at the final court?

00:24:12.940 And the SEAL dossier, as everyone now knows, was critical and central to the Russiagate

00:24:17.740 host, the lies bought and paid for by the DNC. This entire dossier was given to Paul Ryan six months

00:24:24.940 before the Russiagate investigation ever started in Congress. That means somebody walked

00:24:30.060 it over to him, handed it to him. He read it and he never told anyone in Congress, not me,

00:24:36.620 not Devin, not another Republican member that I am aware of. And he kept that fact.

00:24:41.980 And it's only until we caught him after the investigation was over were we able to publicize

00:24:47.100 it then, but nobody cared there. I want to know, Paul Ryan, who did you get it from?

00:24:50.860 Why did you withhold the key piece of information on Russiagate?

00:24:55.260 Were you trying to take down Donald Trump? Of course he was. He's been trying to do that since day

00:24:59.660 one and he still is. Paul Ryan was the biggest gutless Speaker of the House we have ever had.

00:25:05.580 And he is as much of a government gangster as Chris Wray, as Bill Barr, as Merrick Garland,

00:25:11.740 as Gina Haspel and then Secretary Esper and all the rest of them, because all they thought they

00:25:16.540 wanted to do and could do was supersede a duly elected President Donald Trump. And to me,

00:25:21.820 that's the most unconstitutional thing. And that's what makes Paul Ryan one of the biggest criminal

00:25:26.140 villains of United States modern history. I just wanted to hear that again. I know that our

00:25:33.500 audience appreciates it because because you have so succinctly and powerfully put it in straightforward

00:25:40.220 language. And I have to say the fact that that Kevin McCarthy is the handpicked choice of Paul Ryan

00:25:49.340 is just one, one, but a considerable one of the reasons that I could not stomach him as Speaker.

00:25:59.980 The party deserves leaders who are America first, make America great again, and who will bleed for this

00:26:10.780 country. That is not Kevin McCarthy. It is not, unfortunately, too many of the conference.

00:26:17.260 I want to turn to now, if I may, Donald Trump, as he was leaving office, should he have released

00:26:28.140 all of the classified documents that would have, should he have done an Elon Musk? I'll put it that

00:26:35.340 way. I like that. I haven't heard it quite so put that way. You know, Lou, with me, I'm sure you're

00:26:43.180 aware of dealing with the, you know, the politicized DOJ. There's limited comments I can give on this

00:26:48.900 right now, unless I want a bigger target on my back. But speaking from a little experience with

00:26:56.660 Donald Trump, he was the most transparent president. He wanted all these documents declassified.

00:27:01.540 And I've personally said, excuse me, I've publicly said previously, and that's the statement I'll stand

00:27:06.960 on, that Donald Trump did execute declassification over large sets of documents. And it was the people

00:27:13.440 in, in government that got in his way and thought they could somehow rescind that order. Now, how that

00:27:20.480 plays out is yet to be determined. But I think that the American public would benefit greatly

00:27:26.940 from, from monster declassifications. All this stuff, as you've seen during Russiagate

00:27:31.580 and so many other matters, when Adam Schiff runs around and saying it's classified, I can't tell

00:27:35.260 you. That goes for, we're covering up government corruption. We're covering up our own corruption.

00:27:40.000 And we don't want the world to know. So we're going to say it's classified. And you, America,

00:27:43.880 can't handle the magnitude of this state's secrets. So we're going to keep it because you elected us

00:27:49.580 to bury this thing at the bottom of the ocean. So our corruption is never discovered. And that's

00:27:54.840 what ticks me off the most, whether it's Russiagate or China COVID origin or anything related to

00:28:00.500 freaking Fauci or Afghanistan withdrawal or what have you. I have always been in favor of getting

00:28:06.240 these documents out. And there is a way to get 99% of these documents out with minimal reduction

00:28:11.680 and keeping American national security interest in, in, in check. And of course, you have the

00:28:16.900 Rod Rosenstein's of the world and Chris Wray screaming at the top of the lungs. Oh my God,

00:28:21.020 when we released Christopher Steele's information lawfully, they said, you are going to kill our

00:28:26.400 sources. You are going to jeopardize relationships. No, the only thing that happened was we showed

00:28:30.360 the corruption at the FBI under Comey. We, no sources died, no relationships were ruined.

00:28:35.340 So when it comes to D class, you know, I'm like Devin Nunes on this one. We should get it all out

00:28:39.800 there. There's ways to do it. If you wanted it, if you wanted it to happen, you just, they just don't

00:28:45.680 because there's so much more corruption they're covering up. And again, circling back to Republican

00:28:50.620 leadership in the next house, they've got an opportunity to get those documents and put them

00:28:54.540 out to the world. Will they do it? I don't know, Lou. It remains to be seen. It's not looking good.

00:29:00.360 I want to go to, speaking of Elon Musk, the Twitter issue. But first, I want to ask you

00:29:06.300 something that possibly could salve our hearts and deep concerns right now about this incoming

00:29:15.080 Congress. Have any of the chairman, prospective chairman of the major committees and oversight

00:29:22.840 committees, including Intel, have any of them called up Kash Patel and said, can we talk and

00:29:31.040 get some counsel, some advice and perspective from you? Can you answer that?

00:29:38.720 I've offered it. I've offered it, Lou. I've offered it. And what, you know, one, one individual

00:29:45.560 has that I used to work with from Russiagate on a very specific Intel issue. But other than

00:29:52.120 that, a very narrow issue. Other than that, no. And I've offered it publicly. Hey, you want

00:29:56.740 to know how to run a congressional investigation? Call me. I know you guys. I worked with all

00:30:01.340 you guys. I briefed with all you guys. I worked for you guys. I worked for everyone when it

00:30:05.400 came to Russiagate, literally. And most of those guys are still there. And I'm happy to jump

00:30:09.600 back in and say, this is how you run an investigation. These are where the subpoenas go. These are

00:30:14.260 where the documents are. This is how you safeguard classification matters. This is how you properly

00:30:19.740 issue public documents to inform the American public. And this is how you finally do your

00:30:24.620 constitutional duty of oversight and hold government gangsters accountable while giving the American

00:30:29.720 public the information we sent you to Washington to get because you work for us and not the other

00:30:34.660 way around. But you're right, Lou. I don't imagine those phone calls will be coming anytime soon.

00:30:40.920 I was afraid that was the answer. I sensed it was the answer. Do you have enough time for us to take

00:30:48.380 up Twitter and all that is happening there with Elon Musk? You're being very generous with your time.

00:30:55.160 I certainly appreciate that because this is critically important and critically related

00:31:03.220 to all that is happening in this country. When you talk about cover-ups and obfuscation

00:31:09.640 and this very dangerous deep state that has a grip over so much of, but only the important parts of our

00:31:18.560 federal government. Let me turn to, suddenly we have Elon Musk, one of, if not the wealthiest,

00:31:29.360 been in all the world, who is risking so much. And I understand that he put a great deal at risk to

00:31:36.660 begin with, to even buy Twitter. But right now he's putting so much at risk when he is saying things like

00:31:43.380 people shouldn't be doing business with Coy Perkins. They shouldn't be, you know, put that in some

00:31:53.380 context with us because that seems like an immense risk for him to be taking.

00:31:58.800 Yeah, look, see, this one's another one that's sort of near and dear to me. And I've said it from

00:32:03.020 the beginning. All roads lead to Russiagate. All roads lead to Russiagate, especially when it comes

00:32:08.540 to Twitter. Why? Because I called out James Baker for still being at Twitter and being the gatekeeper

00:32:14.760 referee for screening the documents that Elon Musk said he wanted out. What happened two days later,

00:32:19.220 he was fired. That's not a coincidence. Then I put Perkins Cooey on blast. And I said, how dare

00:32:24.220 the law firm that ran the biggest criminal conspiracy with the FBI and the DNC be your lawyers on your

00:32:30.580 payroll at Twitter when you say you want a censorship-free platform, free of corruption?

00:32:37.380 And Elon came out on last night on Twitter, and I'm glad this is the first person I'm talking to

00:32:40.940 about it, actually responded. I'm not on Twitter. I'm only on Truth Social, but people have been putting

00:32:44.760 my information that I put on Truth Social over to Elon directly. And he's responding to it. And he

00:32:49.800 said, Perkins Cooey is an employee. And I said, well, here's the receipt. And I put one court filing

00:32:54.840 up from just two days ago. I said, Perkins Cooey was counsel of record for Twitter. And I've got more.

00:33:00.560 I've got it all laid out tonight on Cash's Corner at 8 p.m. tonight on Epoch Times if anyone wants to get

00:33:05.500 bored with mind-numbing details. But the heart of the matter is this. I do agree with you, Lou, that Elon is

00:33:11.660 trying to put out a good foot and trying to get information out there and become a free speech

00:33:17.840 platform. The problem is he's not educated on Russiagate. The problem is he's not educated on

00:33:23.520 the government gangsters and the Perkins Cooey of the world and the James Bakers. I mean, just think 0.99

00:33:27.520 of it, Lou. You have the guy, James Baker, who was the number one lawyer at the FBI for James Comey,

00:33:33.460 who was the FISA guru at the DOJ. And I know that from my time at DOJ as a terrorism prosecutor.

00:33:40.140 This guy wrote the FISA application. That was the biggest farce in U.S. history based on fraudulent

00:33:46.280 information. This guy, James Baker, allowed it to be walked into a federal court, lied to a federal

00:33:51.260 judge just to unlawfully surveil a presidential candidate, all the while suppressing evidence of

00:33:57.200 innocence that was known to his FBI. This is the architect, James Baker, who ended up at Twitter,

00:34:02.760 being the number two lawyer over there, calling, getting millions of dollars. Do you think he wasn't

00:34:07.500 talking to his pals at Perkins Cooey? Remember Michael Sussman, the lawyer at Perkins Cooey who

00:34:13.320 helped architect this thing from the outside? He met with James Baker and handed him the Alpha Bank

00:34:20.120 charade when James Baker was, guess what, the FBI general counsel. You think those guys don't talk?

00:34:25.740 And why do you think I'm so ticked off when I find out that Perkins Cooey is still on the payroll

00:34:30.160 for Twitter? And that's what I'm trying to tell. It's a challenge to you on. I'm not knocking him.

00:34:34.380 I'm telling him, if you really want to do this, then give me a call. If you really want to do this,

00:34:39.400 fire everybody that's there. If you really want to do this, stop being misled by people in your

00:34:43.940 circle with false information. You are only shooting yourself in the foot and you are not

00:34:48.740 setting out to achieve your goal of creating a censorship free play platform. We of course know

00:34:53.680 that conservatives were black labeled and censored and gaslighted on Twitter. We know that. Now we know

00:35:00.600 that Jack Dorsey and Vijay Agata lied under oath to Congress. Is someone going to prosecute them?

00:35:05.220 These are the types of things that we need in the sphere. He made a one yard rush by firing James

00:35:09.640 Baker. I told him he's got 99 more to go. And, um, you know, we could go on and on about Russiagate

00:35:15.320 and whatever, but, um, that's where it is with Twitter right now. I, you know, I joke with you

00:35:21.180 about the following, Lou, but, um, I even wrote a Russiagate book for kids because I wanted to make

00:35:25.780 sure that Adam Schiff and Fang Fang Swalwell could understand the devastation that Russiagate has

00:35:31.040 caused. And I thought it appropriate to teach our kids. So that's a plot against the king.com.

00:35:35.600 And we got a Christmas package with two books signed by me and mugs and everything. Um, and I,

00:35:41.060 and I actually say the following with all sincerity, because so many Americans were lied to by Adam Schiff

00:35:46.720 and the fake news media for years. They don't know Russiagate. They don't know the corrupt actors.

00:35:51.940 They don't know the James Baker, the Perkins Coie, the steel dossiers of the world. And that's why I

00:35:56.060 think it's critically important for Elon and everyone else to get educated on Russiagate if

00:36:00.740 they want Twitter to actually become a free speech platform. And I did my part in plot against the

00:36:07.160 king.com. And, uh, hopefully your viewers go out there and get it for the holidays and put it in

00:36:11.960 their stockings. I think grandparents and parents and kids are going to love it. Donald Trump made it the

00:36:16.180 number one book in the country already. So we're having a good time with it, but it all goes back

00:36:20.180 to Elon Musk, Twitter, Russiagate. You know, sometimes I joke about, uh, making sure everyone

00:36:25.520 knows about Russiagate. And I took it seriously though, while writing plot against the king and

00:36:29.920 plot against the king.com. You can get the Russiagate book for kids and young adults. We made it super

00:36:34.900 fun. And the reason I talk about plot against the king in our Christmas package right now, where you get

00:36:38.900 two books signed by me, both the first one and the second one, and a Christmas mug that says

00:36:43.680 communist tears, um, at a discount today at plot against the king.com is because what Elon's trying

00:36:49.400 to do, I think dovetails directly with Russiagate. And unless you understand Russiagate and because

00:36:55.080 half the world was lied to by Adam Schiff and company for years with the mainstream media, they don't

00:36:59.900 know what happened during Russiagate. And that's why Elon's making these mistakes at Twitter right

00:37:04.200 now by only coming on too late to learn about James Baker and not understanding Perkins Coie,

00:37:09.000 their relationship. So I've always said all roads lead to Russiagate. I've done my part to try to

00:37:14.280 educate everybody with the plot against the king at the plot against the king.com. And Donald Trump

00:37:18.440 helped make that number one bestseller, but I'm telling your audience, go out there and get the

00:37:22.340 books, educate your kids, your parents, your grandparents during the holiday season and help

00:37:28.260 Elon on this mission because he has the biggest microphone in the world right now to course correct

00:37:33.200 history. And we rarely get that opportunity. I don't think Congress is going to be the ones

00:37:37.720 delivering the correct message, but Lou Dobbs and his audience certainly are the right people to do it.

00:37:44.520 Cash, you are terrific and your books are terrific. And I recommend all of them to our audience. And

00:37:50.860 we're going to be reminding you about that as Christmas approaches and Hanukkah. We're going to, 0.76

00:37:59.000 you know, we're, we're deeply in your debt for so many reasons, Cash. I just want to say thanks and

00:38:05.700 turn to you for your concluding thoughts here. I want to say first though, Elon Musk deserves great

00:38:14.300 credit for having gotten this far and certainly this quickly. He's moved faster than any human

00:38:19.220 being that I have watched with a major property, $44 billion worth of property. This is, I think he has

00:38:29.280 the potential to turn this into another amazing success like Tesla, like I think SpaceX. I still marvel that we,

00:38:40.960 that he can land rockets on their tail. Yeah, it's, this is a man that is unique. And I think he is,

00:38:49.360 talk about learning. He's a droid adept and an outright genius on so many levels. I think he's the right man in the

00:38:58.080 right place at this right moment in our history to, uh, if God willing, uh, we can, uh, straighten this

00:39:04.560 country out. Uh, I want to get your thoughts on, on just one other aspect here before I turn it over

00:39:11.360 to you for the last word. Uh, and I want to get, I'm focused as you know, right down this conference

00:39:18.400 because there are big promises, uh, being alluded to here. Uh, I, how can we make certain that this Congress

00:39:27.840 talks to cash Patel that these leaders understand that we're not going to play any, uh, civil war games in the

00:39:36.000 Republican party? Uh, if you're not a Republican, uh, if you are not a patriot, you have no business being in the

00:39:43.040 Republican party. Uh, and we don't want to hear nonsense. We want to see results and we want them quickly. How can we get

00:39:50.080 that message to the Republican, uh, the Republican party? I think, um, the only way that we know how to

00:39:59.840 do that is by getting on shows like yours and making sure people hear us over and over again

00:40:06.800 to tell everyone else that they can find. That's the only, it's the old school way of doing something.

00:40:11.680 It's like Devin Newton said during Russia gate cash. When you've told someone something that you found out

00:40:16.080 a million times and then you told them a million more times, you've only just begun to set it.

00:40:21.520 And I think that couldn't be more true when it came to this. And that's why we do this, Lou. That's

00:40:25.360 why you have such an outstanding, massive audience, uh, that listens to your every word. And that's how

00:40:31.360 we teach them that in order to change leadership and our founding fathers didn't want to change

00:40:36.240 overnight. They wanted to be, they meant for it to come over time. Well, now it's come to a head

00:40:41.280 and we have an opportunity just like Elon's taken. We have an opportunity at Congress to run these

00:40:46.640 oversight investigations. They know where to find us. We have to encourage more people to call their

00:40:50.880 representative and say, these are the investigations, the Fauci investigation, the border investigation,

00:40:55.040 the DOJ, FBI corruption investigation, and so many more. Those are the investigations we want you to

00:40:59.600 focus on. And if you don't do it, you want to take the money from the agencies and departments that say

00:41:04.960 they work for us. That's our taxpayer dollars. Take that money. And that dovetails directly into,

00:41:10.720 you know, the closing remarks with, uh, which I'll leave you with is, is Elon. I agree with you.

00:41:14.720 People have said, oh my God, Cass, your truth's on truth social. Why are you, why are you going after

00:41:19.840 Elon? I'm not going after Elon. I'm challenging him. I agree with you, Lou. He is doing something

00:41:24.080 in a time in history that could be epically historic and monumental, but if he's continued to be led

00:41:29.920 astray by whoever's telling him that James Baker is okay to be there, by whoever's telling them Perkins

00:41:35.120 Cooley is not there, by whoever's telling him that Russiagate has no part to play in the Twitter

00:41:39.600 saga in the days to come. He's being misinformed and he's going to shoot himself in the foot.

00:41:44.000 And that's why I challenge him and I'll continue to challenge him on my show, on your show,

00:41:48.320 as often as I can, all roads lead to Russiagate. And unless Elon Musk has a mastery of it,

00:41:53.840 then he will not succeed in what he wants to do at Twitter, which is rid of its corruption,

00:41:58.480 just like our government and allow a censorship free speech platform that no longer has government

00:42:03.920 agencies like the FBI coming in and telling the largest media company in the world that

00:42:08.960 Hunter Biden's laptop is Russian disinformation. That's the best example I can leave it with your

00:42:13.440 audience, Lou. So I hope you guys have a merry Christmas and a happy holiday season. It's always

00:42:18.240 good to be with you and the missus. And I hope you guys get some much earned downtime.

00:42:22.320 Cash Patel, Great American. His new book is Government Gangsters, The Deep State,

00:42:27.280 The Truth and the Battle for Our Democracy. And Cash has written two terrific books for kids,

00:42:32.960 The Plot Against the King and The Plot Against the King, book two. We recommend them all to you

00:42:39.520 highly. Our guest tomorrow is Dr. Robert Malone. We'll be talking about the COVID virus scare in America.

00:42:46.640 Who is trying to scare whom? Should we be getting vaccinated? How about our kids? And why is there

00:42:54.160 a full-blown government campaign to get boosters every two months? Does all of this make sense?

00:43:01.040 Does any of it? Please join us tomorrow. Till then, thank you for being with us. God bless you and may God bless America.

The Great America Show - December 13, 2022

ALL ROADS STILL LEAD TO RUSSIAGATE： DEVIN NUNES & KASH PATEL UNCOVERED THE LARGEST CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY AND IT’S ONGOING

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