ALLEGED WITNESS TO BIDEN CORRUPTION CLAIMS NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR WAS PART OF BIDEN KICKBACK SCHEME
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Former White House stenographer Mike McCormick joins Lou Dobbs on The Great America Show to discuss his experience with the Biden family and how he tried to get in touch with the FBI with information about Joe Biden in February of 2020.
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Hello everybody, I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show. Great to have you with us.
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We begin today with the bloodiest week in cable news history.
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Fox News yesterday fired Tucker Carlson, the ultra-popular MAGA host of the number one show
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in primetime cable news. And Tucker's senior executive producer, Justin Wells, is out of there
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as well. Reports the firings came directly from Fox executive chairman and founder, Rupert Murdoch.
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These latest Fox quakes come less than a week after Saturday night Fox News host Dan Bongino
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announced he and Fox couldn't reach agreement on a new contract. Boom, another MAGA host out of there.
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Fox News is not the only network, however, announcing talent departures. On the other side of the great
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cable news divide, CNN firing controversial morning host Don Lemon. Lemon just too much,
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apparently for the mornings or perhaps he was just a late night kind of guy. CNN has terminated him
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after 17 years at the network. Some, but not much suspense about whether President Biden will announce
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in the coming days that he's running for re-election. Biden will reportedly tap current senior advisor and
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the granddaughter of Cesar Chavez, Julie Chavez Rodriguez, to be his campaign manager.
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Rodriguez faces an uphill battle, however, according to the latest NBC polling showing that Biden,
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whose approval numbers are dismal, is currently trailing a generic Republican candidate by six points.
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His polling number is not the only barrier that Biden faces. House Oversight Chairman James Comer
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continues to uncover the Biden family's rampant corruption revealed in Hunter Biden's business
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dealings while Joe was still vice president. Our guest today is a man who says he witnessed
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firsthand the corruption of the Biden family and he started putting all the pieces together.
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That man is Mike McCormick, a White House stenographer for 16 years. He served Presidents Bush,
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Obama and Trump. He's also author of the book Joe Biden Unauthorized and the 2020 crackup
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of the Democratic Party. Mike, great to have you with us here on The Great America Show today.
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We appreciate you being with us. I want to start with, if we may, just go back a bit to 2020.
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You have a lot to say about the Bidens. Your book was out and a fellow at that point in the
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Republican Party kind of interested in any opposition research he might have gotten his hands on then
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about Joe Biden. Did you ever approach President Donald Trump about what you had witnessed?
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I tried a lot. You know, I worked for President Trump up until 2018. And I had a contact through
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Mike Pence's office, a guy named Mark Lotter. And I kept, you know, connecting with him on LinkedIn
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and just sort of got nowhere with it. And then I actually got a bit of spurt of information
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about somebody asked me in an interview about how do you think Joe Biden's cognitive ability is? And I
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said, I think he's half of what he used to be. He's really deteriorated. And that got a bit of spurt of
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news. And I got on some Fox shows. And that was that was basically it. I mean, I did a lot of call
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in radio and things like that as much as I could. But I couldn't get through. And I thought they would
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have wanted to hear from me. But and I had this inside line. And they never wanted to go further
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with it. Well, that that is, of course, I think, prizing. And I think it's also surprising that you
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contacted or tried to contact the FBI with what you knew about Joe Biden. You, as I understand it,
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put a note in a tip box. I don't know whether that's a virtual tip box or analog,
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but never heard anything from them. So it's interesting that people are somewhat inured
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to to information, to scandal, perhaps about the the Biden's. So what happened? Did you expect a
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response relatively immediately from the FBI tip line? Well, you know, no, I didn't. And here's why,
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you know, we're talking about 2020. The night before the day before the 2020 election, I had a really bad
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feeling about it for some reason. I just was looking at kind of the way the news was going.
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And it just seemed like something was odd. And so I called the FBI. They had a call in tip you could
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do then. And I said, look, I wrote this book. Here's my tips. And I told a bunch of stuff that
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I've since put in subtext that wasn't published in the book. And they they went nowhere with it. I
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never heard back from them. So that was 2020 November. And so when I went to this tip line again,
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and that was late February, just just about a month and a half ago, so February 2023, I already
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had the experience of being ignored by the FBI with information about the Biden's. So I took I took
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photos of it. I took screenshots of every sort of step you go through in this process of signing on to
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this website. And it's a it's a serious penalty to a lot of the FBI. I mean, you go to prison if
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you're lying on your tip. That's what they say. I I'm not lying. I made a tip to them. I haven't
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heard back from them. And it's sad that they seem more interested in other things than getting to
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the bottom of an ongoing investigation. Because when I called them in 2020, they had already opened
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the investigation to Hunter Biden. That's still ongoing with the special prosecutor David Weiss up in
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in Delaware. And it's gone nowhere. And Tony Bobulinski was interviewed, nothing.
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Well, Bobulinski was interviewed, and suddenly, Tucker Carlson decided he didn't want to do any
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more Bobulinski interviews. It was a strange thing. Because Hunter Biden, as I recall, he said was a
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an old school friend and felt like he had been punished enough. A lot of dead ends in 2020 weren't
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there, whether it was the reporting. And as I recall, October 14, by the New York Post about the
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Hunter Biden laptop that suddenly was crushed. We learned subsequently, it was crushed by the FBI
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going to big media, shutting them out. So let's let's get back to what you you actually witnessed.
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You traveled with President Biden, Vice President Biden for, for years. Tell us about what you saw
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Wow. Well, I was a stenographer. So I listened to every speech that guy said. First, I listened to it
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as it came through and I typed it. And then I had to go back over and listen to it. So I was in every
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speech that guy said for starting in 2011 through 2017. Almost out of the gate, he was way out of
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the out of his league. He's very unpresidential, and just kind of goofy. And he had that he had that
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a lot of people laughing behind his back in the in the Obama White House. They had this he had this
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reputation being kind of like the crazy old guy who put the lamp on his head and dance in the corner
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at the party. I mean, he would just go on and on and talk on and on about himself, about his past.
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And, you know, his ties to the middle class and all this stuff. So when I first I mean, it just was
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unpresidential at first. And so when I wrote the book, I was kind of looking at it like, hey, it's just
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unpresidential. And I traveled with him to China. I was on the same trip twice. I was on the same trip
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with Hunter when Hunter was there. The media just sort of shrugged it off at the time. And my job
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at the time was to just sort of listen to what they said, put it in the White House transcript,
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and then have have the media read the transcripts and do the reporting. They never reported anything.
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And, you know, I went to Ukraine with him three times and twice after Hunter was named on the board
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Burisma. And so there was a lot of the media sort of condoned what he was doing. And it wasn't until
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I got my hands on the Hunter Biden laptop. And that was early fall 2021. Garrett Ziegler, Marco Polo,
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anti-corruption nonprofit, gave me a copy of the laptop. He said, you know a lot about Biden.
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You should have a copy of this. Look through it and see what you can find.
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And that's when I started the Substack. And as I started digging into it, I realized the stuff that
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Joe Bada had been talking about for all those years in the White House was a cover story for his
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criminal activity. And so I started publishing Substacks. In about November 2022, so last November,
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I went back to some of the transcripts I wrote on those trips into Ukraine. There's a transcript
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from April 21st, 2014, so almost nine years ago, when Jake Sullivan walks to the back of the plane
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and I'm standing next to him, but he's a senior administration official. He's sort of anonymous.
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And he says, somebody asked him, what's the energy package you're bringing? He says, well,
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we're doing fracking, basically. I mean, he kind of, you know, nuanced around it like, you know,
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like a foreign policy whiz kid would. But that's what he basically said. Well, after what I've read
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in the Hunter Biden laptop, I knew that it was, Burisma was all about fracking. And I knew that on 20,
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on the 18th of April in 2014. So what, three years, nine years ago, exactly. Hunter Biden had signed on
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to be on the Burisma board. And here's a tidbit you might find interesting. The morning, the day he
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signed on to the board, he went on morning joke show with Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski. That
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was his cover story. Then later in the day, he goes on this conference call with Burisma and gets signed
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on. I mean, it's ridiculous. They use the press as their cover story and the press let them do it.
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So what I did is I said, hey, wait a minute. I'm not going to let that happen. I'm going to the FBI
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with this information. If Jake Sullivan was the guy, I can name him. I'm the witness. I'm naming Jake
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Sullivan as the senior administration official who is part of a conspiracy out of Joe Biden and
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and Barack Obama's White House to have a kickback scheme. Joe's family gets part of the goods,
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part of the money that's going over to the Burisma with this assistance. That's exactly what happened.
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I haven't heard back from him. Well, you haven't heard back from them, but we're going to hear more
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from Mike McCormick. We're talking with Mike McCormick, former White House stenographer.
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His book is Joe Biden Unauthorized, the 2020 crackup of the Democratic Party and a fascinating
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tale that apparently no one in the FBI or any part of law enforcement or the Department of Justice
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wants to hear about. Stay with us. A quick message from our sponsors and you'll hear a lot more.
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We're back now talking with Mike McCormick, former White House stenographer. He is the author of the
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book, Joe Biden Unauthorized, and also trying, trying to make at least someone in law enforcement,
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the FBI, the Department of Justice, maybe the Department of Agriculture, Mike, I don't know,
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some part of the federal government that will listen to what you have to say. You mentioned the
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the grand jury that's been underway since the, well, actually since the Obama administration.
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As I think about it, it's about seven years now, not six or four. This is almost seven years in which
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a grand jury has been investigating Hunter Biden. Did you approach them? I haven't yet. And by the way,
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Lou, really good information about all this is on my sub stack. And my sub stack is midnight in a
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laptop of good and evil. And I'm getting a lot of signups and I really appreciate it. But did I
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approach the grand jury? I haven't yet. I just, I literally went to the FBI. And then last week,
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there was a big story in the New York Post. Stephen Nelson did a great job on that. And
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that really started this rush of attention. And I'm trying to get the word out to the grand jury
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through that. Well, that's one way to do it. What is interesting is that that grand jury has been
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operating for six to seven years. I think we're in the seventh year now of it. I started out as a taxes
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issue for Hunter Biden. And then that laptop, as you've seen, it is a, it is a treasure trove
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of crime, whether it's drugs, whether it is prostitution, whatever you just about what you
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want to name. It's contained in there, but corruption is, is ripe throughout. And no one seems to want to
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deal with these issues. You were with the Bidens, you said in China. Why, as we look at China,
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you were with them in Honduras, a number of other countries throughout. Did you ever see behavior,
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conduct that made you think that, yes, this is, this is much like what I've seen in Ukraine?
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Not while I was standing there. The strange thing was, and so looking back on it, um, was the
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specific to China was the intimacy, intimate relationship that Joe Biden developed with
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then vice president of China, Xi Jinping. And, and I've written a couple of sub stacks about this.
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If on the surface of it, it seemed like good policy, smart foreign policy. It all made sense.
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And Louie, you're a veteran journalist. You know, this politics, the politicians, when they do their
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crimes, they have to tell everybody what they're doing because they have to first sell it. And then
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they have to sort of, there's a surface story, but then there's the subs, the reality underneath the
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surface. And that's what all of Joe Biden's dealings with Xi Jinping was. And I, I realized
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that as I went into this sub stack. So the big question I always had about it was whose idea was
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it? Whose idea was it to put Joe Biden in a special relationship with Xi Jinping? And why did it get to
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the level it did? In 2013, when I went to China with Joe Biden, he had a four hour solo meeting with
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Xi Jinping. Two hours were just the two of them in a room with interpreters. And Joe used to brag
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about it to everybody. But the thing was, what did he say in there? Because at the time, Xi Jinping was
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the president of China and Joe Biden was only the vice president of America. And earlier in that year,
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in June, 2013, Xi Jinping went to America to visit with the president of the United States and hardly
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spent any time with him compared to what he would later spend with Joe. There was something going on
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between those two that they kept quiet under the surface and to themselves. And I think it led to
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You think it was being planned six years before the occurrence of the outbreak?
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I don't think the exact Wuhan was being planned. But what happened was, and I've written several
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substats about this. After this big meeting they have, when Hunter Biden is there in Beijing, 2013,
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December. Hunter Biden's company starts investing in a company called Metabiotta. Metabiotta was then in
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China investigating with scientists from the Wuhan Institute of Virology about bat scat. They were
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trying to map where all the viruses would come from. And they were being supported in this endeavor by the
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National Threat Reduction Agency. That's a DOD agency. If Joe Biden is talking to Xi Jinping about this and this is
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happening in Xi Jinping's backyard, he knows about it in China. And all of a sudden, after this
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meeting, Hunter Biden and his company started investing heavily in Metabiotta. And all of a sudden, Metabiotta
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starts landing all these government contracts. In February 2014, so only six months after this meeting
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in Beijing with the Bidens and Xi, all of a sudden, Metabiotta lands a $16 million contract to do
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bio-warfare research in the Republic of Georgia, right there on the border of Russia. From there,
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they get into Ukraine. When on the plane, when I was on the plane talking, you know, this tip I gave
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to the FBI, Jake Sullivan comes back, no one was talking about Metabiotta then. But they were also
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part of a deal that Joe Biden and Hunter Biden were doing in Ukraine.
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So who did the research that you're just describing? Did you do that research to find out about Metabiotta
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investments and the relationship to the Bidens?
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Yeah, it's in my sub stack. And I, you know, I told you, I got the, I got the laptop from
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the Marco Polo group. They've got a lot of researchers there. So it just came out of a
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So let's, let's get, let's get back to, if we may, what you're doing with this, because right now we
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have two major investigations going on. The largest investigation since, well, what would it be?
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January 6th, I suppose, led by the Democrats, but these are led by the Republicans.
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James Comer, his oversight committee, Jim Jordan, the, the Judiciary Committee and
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Weaponization Committee. Why haven't you approached them? I mean, all sorts of whistleblowers are
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pouring through their doors from the FBI and other agencies to tell them about Biden corruption.
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Well, I mean, it's only been a couple of days since this all sort of kicked off.
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Um, I've been trying to reach through into, into Congress through sort of like
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propositioning people through LinkedIn and stuff. Hey, you got to read my sub stack, things like that.
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You know, you need to, you need to maybe think about instead of pushing sub stack, when you talk to
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these people, tell them what you're doing. Talk to them. I mean, you, you know, you say sub stack,
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I mean, that may be terrific, but it really isn't an answer for, uh, the people who you urgently need to
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get the information to, do you think? Yeah, no, you're right. And I got a great tips from somebody
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today on my, in my comments section, she said, you know, you can do an affidavit and go and submit it
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to them. And that's, that's, um, evidence. So I'll do some affidavits and submit it to Congress,
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to Congress. A notarized affidavit. Yeah. I just basically what I, what I said to the
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FBI tip line, I'll do a notarized affidavit, submit it to Congress, and then I'll do a notarized
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affidavit and submit it to the, um, the guys up in the, uh, grand jury guy, um, special prosecutor
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up in Wilmington. Yeah. I wouldn't hold up my, my hopes too much on a guy who can't get, uh, the
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simplest it seems of, uh, of evidence, uh, organized around, uh, a deduction and therefore
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a judgment about whether or not a crime has been committed in six to seven years. It looks,
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it starts to look like more than a stone wall. It looks like stone, concrete, cement, uh, and then
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barriers of rebar, uh, between the truth and that, uh, that us attorney's office. Let's, let's go to
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the issue of these people who seem to be protecting the Bidens. That is the, uh, the secret service,
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the FBI. Did you ever see signs of that? Any intonation, any intimation of that?
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No, you know, everything I saw. So I was, I only traveled with Joe internationally. And like I
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said, on the surface, everything was fine. It didn't seem unusual. We're talking with Mike
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McCormick. Mike, we're going to bring you right back. Everybody stay with us. Uh, fascinating
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discussion with a man who can't, it seems, uh, get anyone in authority to listen, but we're
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listening, aren't we? We'll be right back. Stay with us.
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We're back now talking with former White House stenographer, Mike McCormick. Mike,
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let's get to what do you do now? Uh, you have all of this information. You can't get authority
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authorities to pay a bit of attention. Why would you not make a full on full court press to people
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who are looking for information, namely the, the judiciary committee, the house oversight committee?
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Well, that's where I'll go. You know, first you have to know who's not looking. Now we know the
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guy, the special prosecutor is not looking unless, unless he responds. It's the, the affidavit I'm
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going to send him or deliver to him. And, you know, we'll see what the other, um, I can go down to the
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Capitol Hill tomorrow and do an affidavit. I've never done one before, you know, so I've got to figure out
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how to do it. Yeah. I have, well, it's not complicated. Just, just do an affidavit and
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have the notary, notary, uh, stamp it. Uh, so are you talking about special counsel? Her is where
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you're going to go? Special counsel, um, David Weiss is the guy in, um, Delaware. Yeah. The U.S.
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attorney in, in, in Delaware. Uh, so, and, and, you know, John Herr, the, uh, the special counsel
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is looking into Biden, uh, his documents and so forth. Maybe he might pay attention, but again,
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it would seem to be the greatest motivation would be with the Republicans. What do you think?
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That's what I think. And, you know, I'm not sure if they want to go, what I know, what I can tell
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them is how much Obama is involved in this. And I'm not sure they want to know that. I sure do.
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I get the impression they want to, they want to have Hunter go down and maybe Joe go down,
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but they don't want Obama pulled into this. And that may be why they don't want to listen to me.
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Yeah. Well, let me ask you this. Are you saying that the Republican committees don't want to know
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about Obama? Or are you saying who doesn't want to know about Obama? Well, it seems like that's what,
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um, the FBI is protecting. And the FBI is protecting everybody in the system, the deep state,
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the Marxist Dems, you name it, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, go down the list. Right. You know,
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George Bush for all I know, but we do know this, that the Republicans are trying to get to the truth
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and the oversight committee and the judiciary committee, Jim Jordan, James Comer, great
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Americans. But I want to, I think we need to know about Obama and what can you tell us about Obama?
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And, you know, you're talking about 2014. At that moment in time, as I recall, Obama had just lost Crimea.
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Russia had just taken it over. You mentioned Georgia. Georgia had, you know, Russia had previously taken over
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Georgia in all effect, annexing them without the paperwork. And now here you are talking about Ukraine.
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And the next thing we know, Russia's in Ukraine. Tell us about Obama's relationship to all of that.
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So the flight into, so Obama was, I don't know if Obama was the instigator of this, uh,
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grift, this sort of kickback scheme that the Bidens were going, or if he was just covering it up.
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I'm still not sure, but I know he was covering it up. You know, it's a, uh, Silicon Valley biotech.
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They were going into, um, they did stuff all around the world actually. And there's been some reporting
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out about how, um, they were involved alongside EcoHealth Alliance. And there's been some reporting.
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There was a good book written, um, uh, the truth about Wuhan, about a guy who worked with EcoHealth
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Alliance, who, um, basically said he was asked to be a CIA spy in, for EcoHealth Alliance. They were
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using, I'm sorry to interrupt you, Mike, but what, what I'm asking is about Obama, right. And a direct
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connection to what you're talking about with Joe Biden. What is it about Obama that you have to say?
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I mean, we, all of the other stuff, of course, is interesting, but it's not pertinent to Obama.
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Got it. Thank you. Thanks for redirect. Yes, sir. April 16th, Joe Biden has a meeting in his
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West Wing office with Hunter and, uh, Hunter's Burisma business partner. Both these guys are
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involved in the grift with Burisma and Metabiata. And the guy's name is Devin Archer. There's a photo of
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Devin Archer with, with, um, uh, Joe Biden in the office on that day. Later that night, Obama and Joe
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Biden are in the presidential limousine for like 45 minutes on a return from a event they do together
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in Western Pennsylvania. They fly two planes to the airport. They ride, they fly. I don't know if they
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did both. I don't know how they got there, whether they were together or not, but they took a selfie.
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Joe Biden took a selfie of him and, and Obama in this limousine. Obama was there at the top of this
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day. Joe Biden had a long criminal activity day in the White House and he finished it off with Obama.
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Obama knew, Obama knew. And there are other, I'll be coming out with a substack on Wednesday. Other
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Obama, um, officials were involved in, with USAID programs that were also doing a kickback scheme with,
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with, uh, Burisma. So this is Obama, this is the Obama administration writ large that is doing this.
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You know, John Kerry steps. All I, all I hear you saying is that they met on an airport
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and you've deduced from that, that there is some sort of corrupt activity. Help me out here,
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Mike, because I don't, I don't follow the, the chain of custody, uh, of this, uh, criminal event,
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uh, and who was doing what for whom? Well, okay. So we're going to go back to April 16th.
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April 16th, what year? Say that again. April 16th of what year? Uh, 2014, April 16th, 2014.
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So this is two, two days before Hunter Biden signs on to Burisma. The day begins with a very suspicious
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meeting, suspicious to me. David Axelrod goes to Joe Biden's, uh, Naval Observatory for breakfast.
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It's in the White House visitor logs. So then later in the day, Joe has this meeting with his son and
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his son's business partner in the West Wing. And then they end the day with Obama in the White House.
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Later that night, White House tours, uh, at like seven o'clock, that's in the White House visitor logs.
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To me, there's so much connection of the people that were doing business with Joe. And there's
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check-in points with Obama and David Axelrod on the same day. This is all connected around this day.
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Okay. So this is your analysis. And this isn't, this is no longer your eyewitness testimony on history
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as a White House stenographer. You are extrapolating from history that you've read or researched,
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but not to which you were privy as a, as an eyewitness given your job.
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Not as an eyewitness given my job, but as an eyewitness, what I read and seen in the
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Hunter Biden laptop. Yeah, I understand. Uh, so what is it that you're accusing President Obama of?
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I think there was a, um, there was a build out to a, uh, to create a biowarfare infrastructure,
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starting with this meeting that Joe Biden had in Beijing in 2013. It progressed through
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the Republic of Georgia, progressed through, um, Ukraine until we had, uh, the Ebola outbreak
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in the summer of 2014. It was quite a year, wasn't it? It was quite a year for dangerous viruses.
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The guy who was hired to bring in, to fix the Ebola outbreak was Ron Klain. Ron Klain is, was until
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recently Joe Biden's White House, uh, chief of staff. He was also his, um, campaign manager in 2020.
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I, and so in 20, in 2014, November, after the Ebola outbreak, after Ron Klain is named the Ebola's are,
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and by the way, he made Anthony Fauci a healthcare superhero that fall. That was the first time that
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Fauci really got big news in a positive way, was fixing the, uh, the fact that Ebola was coming to
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America. Obama goes to, to China in November 2014 and agrees with Xi Jinping to do, um, infectious disease
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collaboration research. So basically they're going to send more scientists and more virologists and more
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American money over to China to do research. When Ron Klain was named as the Ebola czar, it was the same
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day that they stopped gain-of-function testing in America that was funded by American, um, government
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entities. But it went on in the Wuhan Institute of Virology after that, funded by, uh, Fauci through
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this EcoHealth Alliance organization. Obama knew. He knew the whole time. And they, they stepped it up
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through 2015, 2016. There was a lot of testing done. And so then as Trump has won, Obama's presidential,
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um, Council of Advisors and Science Technology, PCAST, in November 2016, so days after Trump wins,
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they come out and they say basically, don't do any more gain-of-function. It's really not a good idea.
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Six weeks later, Obama's Council of, uh, Science and Technology in his White House, led by John Holdren,
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says, no, we're going to return to gain-of-function. We're going to resume the gain-of-function
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research in America. And Obama signs it. It was January 9th. This is this week before,
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two weeks before Trump comes in. They put on, I, I've written all this in my sub stack. They put on,
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like, this sort of showy, hey, watch out. There's a, there's a pandemic coming. There was all this
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warning then, at that time. There's a pandemic coming. There's a pandemic coming. And they put
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on, for the incoming cabinet members, for Trump's cabinet members, they put on what's called a
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tabletop exercise. They basically had them in a big auditorium in the Eisenhower building,
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and they said, this is what could happen. And that was, was no, no one ever said anything about it
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until March 2020, when everyone is, when everyone's saying, well, you know, Trump didn't do anything.
00:33:22.820
When he came in, we did a tabletop exercise for him. We told him everything he needed to know about
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pandemic. And he didn't, he didn't follow through on what we left for him. But they didn't really
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leave him anything. They set him up. A week after they re-new gain-of-function testing in January 2016,
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guess who goes to Ukraine and the World Economic Forum? Joe Biden. And who's he meet at the World
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Economic Forum? Xi Jinping. And what do they announce at that World Economic Forum? That year,
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Bill Gates announced a new way of creating vaccines. He called it, it's now called MRNA. He called it DNA,
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MNA or something like that. So all this confluence of facts comes together. And it points to me to the,
00:34:14.420
to the realization, there was an effort underway for a long time to create this biowarfare
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infrastructure. And Trump came in and he said, almost out of the gate, he said, yeah, we're going to
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start getting rid of some of this stuff. And they, they saw it as a threat. And then eventually they
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use it against them. So when you're talking about the, I believe you're talking about MRNA,
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the RNA being the messenger for DNA and the, and Robert Malone, Dr. Robert Malone, one of the
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earliest innovators and, and originators of MRNA, which is now Moderna, BioNTech and various other
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a couple of other firms. So all of that was going on. And you're saying you, you deduce that it was a
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planned and organized a series of events. Correct. They, they started a, you know, you hear the term
00:35:15.700
SIOP a lot, but almost before Trump came into office, there was a SIOP in place to make people
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afraid of a coming pandemic. And it, it grew amongst Democrat, prominent Democrats as he continued
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into his 2018, 2019, 2019, all of a sudden it really starts to pick up. Who's SIOP is this? Because
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President Trump is in office at that point. Right. And so in 2019 in summer, um, you know,
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the base, there's a lot of theory, there's evidence that the Wuhan virus was loose in,
00:36:00.340
in the world in the early fall of 2019. And some people that are prominent virologists are saying
00:36:07.460
it was there for a longer time than that. Yeah, I know that there's people who say that,
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but most of the clinicians, the virologists say that the earliest warning that we had
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was from Taiwan and their public health authorities, because they were watching the Wuhan
00:36:27.780
in that region. And that was the first time that somebody had noticed something and were convinced
00:36:34.340
that it was, uh, something to do, uh, with, uh, with perhaps an epidemic. Uh, and that was in late
00:36:41.460
summer, uh, and early fall of 2019. Right. Correct. And that was, you know, I, I did a, a sub stack on
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Eric Holder role in this back in 2014 Ukraine thing, but he and Barack Obama came out in the
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summer of 2019 with like a voter registration program, like August, 2019. I mean, that the
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alignment of coincidences is very suspicious to me. And what I see in the laptop is a lot of evidence
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that supports my theory that they set up president Trump by putting together the potential for a, uh,
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global pandemic. And they had the expertise, Ron Klain had the expertise. Um, the Fauci had the expertise
00:37:34.500
in the, um, fighting the, um, Ebola outbreak, they knew how to sort of back engineer it, how to end to
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create what would be, what could happen in a, uh, pandemic outbreak. I mean, the, the speed that the
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Democrats worked into restructuring the way the voting was done in certain states. I don't know. I
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don't know if anybody's ever looked at that all of a sudden in the spring of 2020,
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we have, we have looked at that by, believe me, and we've looked at it and we've looked at it.
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Uh, and I would agree with you. There are people who haven't, but on this show, we've looked at it
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a lot. Uh, the, the election of 2020, while Biden won by 74 electoral votes, think about that 74
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electoral votes. It doesn't sound very close, does it? But then when you look at the battleground
00:38:28.180
states, there were six of them and three states amounting to 42,000 votes were the difference
00:38:37.780
in the outcome of this election. Otherwise you have a tie election and that is how close it came.
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And that's why there was such a battle for the white house in 2021. Uh, and it persisted beyond.
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So it, this is fascinating stuff and we appreciate you for sharing it, Mike, give us your sub stack.
00:38:58.980
So people can check out your, uh, your sub stack. That sub stack is midnight and a laptop, good and evil.
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It's free, or you can sign up for a paid subscription, either or. Um, and I, uh, you know,
00:39:12.980
there'll be a lot more coming. Um, I write, I publish twice a week.
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Well, I tell you what, uh, we appreciate the opportunity to talk with you and, uh, let us know
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as, uh, as, uh, as developments warrant, as they say, uh, we'd love to, uh, love to talk to you some
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more. Great. Thanks for having me on and give me so much time, Lou. I really appreciate it.
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Thanks to Mike McCormick, author of the book, Joe Biden, unauthorized and a great American.
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That's it for us today. The question is, is it too hypersensational to worry about whether
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artificial intelligence means the end of human life on planet earth? No, I didn't think so either.
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Our guest is Gary Marcus. He's one of the leaders in the rapidly developing realm of
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artificial intelligence. We hope you'll join us till then. Thank you. God bless you and may God bless America.