AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS, END MASSIVE CORRUPTION OR LOSE THE REPUBLIC
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On today's show, host Lou Dobbs is joined by investigative reporter Peter Swiser and senior editor-at-large at the Government Accountability Institute, Peter Swizer, to discuss political corruption within the Republican leadership and the Chinese influence behind it.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and welcome to The Great America Show. Great to have you with us.
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And we're all about politics today. Political corruption and the Republican leadership,
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the rhino left, and their agenda to get as close to the Democrat Party as possible,
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and then abandon the working Americans and their families, our great middle class,
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distance themselves from true border security, from controlled immigration into our nation,
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not wide open borders that suit the corporatist media, the Business Roundtable, the Chamber of
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Commerce, and Wall Street, all in league with the Marxist left, Dems, and their demand for amnesty,
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wide open borders, and social programs in the billions for illegals, and the duplicity of
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Republican leaders in the House and Senate. Their political corruption includes deceiving all voters
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for Donald Trump, all voters who will vote Republican because they want this country fixed,
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turned around, prosperity restored, and America first policies only in our foreign policy.
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But you'll hear today the audio tape that proves House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy lied about his
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support of President Trump, lied about January 6th and his alignment with the RINOs,
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and the radical Dems who are still trying to impeach President Trump and destroy this country.
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Today I'll have some special words for Kevin McCarthy and the Republican leaders who support him,
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not only as Minority Leader, but for Speaker of the House if the GOP does succeed
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in the November midterms with a wave election. Those Republicans on Capitol Hill,
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who know full well that McCarthy is as phony as he needs to be in order to achieve his political
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ambitions for himself. And I'll reserve a few thoughts for those who are accomplices and enablers
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of McCarthyism. McCarthyism is what we call on this podcast, the practice of putting rhinos
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in positions of GOP leadership. That's coming up here today.
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And now we have with us Peter Swiser, intrepid and inspiring investigative reporter,
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author of his most recent bestseller, Red Handed, the book that reveals the monies the Biden family
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as an enterprise received from China. And he's also president of the Government Accountability
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Institute, senior editor-at-large at Breitbart News, and one great American. Peter, great to have you
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back with us. You've authored this new special report on corruption in particular at the Commerce
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Department. Now, a lot of people are going to be surprised that you focused at least initially
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on the Commerce Department. Why? Yeah, it's always great to be with you, Lou. Thanks so much for having
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me. We want to look at commerce because honestly, it tends to be a dumping ground for political favors.
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The Commerce Department, it's kind of sleepy. Very few people pay attention to it. But the fact is,
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it has a lot of power in picking winners and losers in corporate America. And it also has a strong
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influence over if we're going to put tariffs on foreign countries like China. A lot of the details
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there are determined by the Commerce Department itself. And what we found, Lou, is that this agency
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that was really set up to kind of protect American business, protect American workers, make us more
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competitive around the world, make sure that, you know, trade agreements and rules are being enforced,
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has really become the subject of an extensive lobbying effort that also includes efforts by Beijing
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to curry favor with executives at that agency by giving sweetheart deals and forging commercial ties
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with family members. And you, you talk about in this new report, you talk about elite capture.
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You introduced millions of Americans to the term elite capture, which is a strategy by the,
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particularly the Chinese, the communist Chinese, to basically buy out the souls of Americans and hold
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them captive until they're needed. And they're needed frequently, aren't they?
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Yeah, that's exactly right, Lou. I mean, you, you define it very clearly. And this is an overt
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strategy. They started doing this first in New Zealand and Australia. They've been doing it in
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the United States for quite a long time. And basically what they're looking for is a way to sort of
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lobotomize America's political leadership. I mean, some people think our leaders are already
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lobotomized literally, but the goal, the goal here is to, you know, find ways to help make American
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politicians wealthy, make sure that they know that it's coming from the hand of Beijing. And they
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usually do it by giving sweetheart deals to family members, people like Hunter Biden, but also people
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like Mitch McConnell's family. And the idea is pretty genius. Once these political families start getting
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wealthy and they know that it's coming from the government in China, they're going to start looking
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the other way when China does certain things. What they're looking for are not robots, you know,
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politicians that do exactly everything they want. They know that that makes those politicians not
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viable politically. So the way it's defined, if you translate it from the Chinese, is they're looking
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for big help with a little bad mouth. The little bad mouth is if you want to ding us on the Uyghurs, if you
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want to talk about human rights, if you want to sort of vent your frustration about our trade policies,
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that's fine. What they want is help on the big stuff, which is unfettered access to technology, to US
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capital markets, and minimal restrictions on their ability to send subsidized goods to the United States. If you do
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those things for them, they are happy to play ball and make you very wealthy, and that's indeed what
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they've done. Well, amongst those people who are very wealthy to begin with, and I'm going to start,
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and people may be surprised to hear me even say this, but Wilbur Ross, the Commerce Secretary under
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President Trump, you raised some startling, I think is a fair word, connections and business dealings
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that I don't think passed the smell test. I don't know whether they're illegal, frankly,
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but they sure do look bad. Let's start with his shipping business.
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Yeah, I mean, Wilbur Ross has a number of investments, but he's involved with two shipping
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companies, and the co-owners of those shipping companies happen to be Chinese state-owned firms.
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And so people would ask, well, why is this relevant? Well, it's relevant when President
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Trump was in office. He did, I think, a lot of great work in trying to reorient our approach towards
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China, recognizing their predatory practices in the area of economics, the military sphere, etc.
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So part of his strategy was to erect tariffs. Those tariffs were enforced by the Commerce Department,
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which was run by Wilbur Ross. If you go back and look what happened, the Commerce Department really
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loosened those restrictions. They created exemptions. The exemptions included some of
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Wilbur Ross's companies. He really gutted what President Trump was trying to do. That's not what you want
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your own Commerce Secretary to do. And so the question becomes, is why was Wilbur Ross doing that? And I think
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one of the reasons was he had these deep commercial ties with Beijing, and that influenced his decision-making
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process. It's just another example, unfortunately, of how Wall Street and the swamp work to undermine
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policies that are popular, that are put in place by an elected president, but they, behind the scenes,
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work to weaken and gut those rules and regulations.
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Now, President Trump lived up to his promise to the voters that he would curtail lobbyists. He was not
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going to let there be that circular flow between Washington, D.C. and corporate America that is
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so lucrative for congressmen, for their staff members, so forth, and others. But this goes on,
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and meanwhile, the chairman, the chairman, the secretary of the Commerce Department retains
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ownership in shipping companies that you say 62% of their business came from, guess where, South Korea,
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even as, well, anyway, give us your explanation for that.
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Yeah, I mean, this is another interesting case. So the shipping business,
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a lot of its business is shipping steel goods, steel, from South Korea to the United States. And if
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you remember, one of President Trump's initiatives to restart or encourage greater manufacturing in the
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United States was to protect the American steel industry. And they were protecting them from China,
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but also from South Korea. Well, what Wilbur Ross did was exempt certain South Korean steel companies
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from U.S. tariffs. Those happened to be the steel companies that his shipping business was carrying
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their goods to the United States. It's a massive conflict of interest. And to your point about
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lobbying, I mean, this is the other problem. The Commerce Department became a focal point for
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lobbying efforts by large American corporations. And here's the scary part, Lou. A lot of the companies
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that were lobbying the Commerce Department were trying to limit these tariffs that President
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Trump had put in place as it related to Asia in general. And these American companies were lobbying
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to get those tariffs removed. A lot of lobbying wasn't done by Chinese or South Korean firms. It was done
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by American firms doing their bidding for them. And that is part of the problem we face. A lot of our
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largest corporations are not looking out for the interests of the country, American workers or the
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United States. They're looking out for their own bottom line. And they're looking out for the interests
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of their partners, which oftentimes reside in mainland China or somewhere else in Asia. It's an enormous
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problem when you look at where corporate America is today. And to see also Jared Kushner's name
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seeking partners to buy distressed industrial properties, Invesco that bought the W.L. Grayson,
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W.L. Ross. I'm going back a few years. W.L. Ross and Company. It's this, you know, it is the nature of
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business, networks and relationships. But there seems to be very little constraint. I'm surprised
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at the constraints that were placed on board members, family members of the Trump family I'm
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referring to, and what they were doing in business. It just seems to be outside, if you will, the bounds
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of what President Trump stood for. And that troubles me deeply because I know that he really meant to
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bring integrity to D.C. Yeah, I agree. And I mean, look, this is a classic example of, you know,
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Donald Trump is a loyal guy and he's loyal to his family and he's loyal to his friends. And
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unfortunately, sometimes people try to take advantage of that. And I think, you know, one of the big
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mistakes, and I've said this before, one of the big mistakes he made, I think, was bringing his family
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members into the White House, both his daughter and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, because you're not
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going to get the sort of unfettered advice that you're going to get from somebody who's there that
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shares your agenda. If they're a family member, I think they're going to have certain influence on
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you that is really just not good. And I think that applied in this case, because it's pretty clear
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there were certain key elements of Trump's agenda that were not shared by certain members of his
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family, at least Jared Kushner and Ivanka. And that was a problem. And I think it was particularly
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as a problem as it related to some of these foreign entities. Because let's remember, Jared
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Kushner came in, his family has a lot of international business dealings, they own a lot of real estate,
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and they have global interests. And to ask somebody like that to separate their interests while they're in
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the White House, you need to be darn sure that they share your agenda. And unfortunately, in this case,
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I don't think he did. And I don't think the president was well served by it.
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Yeah. And, and we started there, because frankly, that is shocking to me. I've got high regard for
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Wilbur Ross. And I think that perhaps he could have used better judgment. I'll put it that way.
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Then you point out these qualified opportunity zones, QOZs. I love that acronym anyway.
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And you mentioned Jared Kushner, you mentioned Chris Christie, Quicken Loans founder. But also,
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we have former mayor, Pete Buttigieg, and now a cabinet member for President Biden, which I consider
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to be one of the most corrupt administrations in history, not only inept, but crooked,
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with projects in South Bend, which he was for the former mayor, opportunity zones, he helped identify
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where those projects would be. And it's just so, again, circular, and raises huge questions.
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It does. Yeah, Mayor Pete has positioned himself as sort of the fresh new face of politics. He's the
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mayor of this, you know, neat industrial town in South Bend. I've been there. It's a nice place. But
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the problem is, he was steering these opportunity zones, grants and loans to political patrons and
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political supporters of his. If you're really, truly interested in revitalizing urban America,
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which I think is a great idea, it's a good America first agenda, it should not be handled by
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politicians like Pete Buttigieg, who are doling them out to his political sponsors. So it's another
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example of kind of the ugly side of the Commerce Department. I think we need a Commerce Department
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that does what its original mission was, which is to protect American business and encourage
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their success overseas. But when you get these politicians that are using it to either line
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their pockets, benefit their, you know, their families or friends or their political donors,
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that is a disservice to the country. And it's frankly surprising to me. You know, we talked a
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little bit about Jared Kushner, some of that got some reporting, no real reporting on Pete Buttigieg. And
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the media has not reported on this. When they should have given all the press attention he's given,
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and given the fact that he was the mayor of a relatively small town, it's not hard to find
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this stuff out. Unfortunately, they chose not to because they apparently weren't that interested.
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Not that interested. And we have the same example with the current Commerce Secretary,
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Gino Raimondo's husband, Andrew Moffitt, an executive at the Chinese funded technology firm called Path
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AI, subject to regulations by the department that his wife runs. There's that good old Commerce
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Department right in the middle of it again. That's right, Lou. And what's really interesting
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about this case is when the Secretary Raimondo came into office, the initial claims of the Biden
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administration is they were going to, you know, sort of leave Trump's tariffs in place at some level
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and use it as a bargaining chip. That's really been melted away. If you look at some of the
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initiatives and things that she's done as Commerce Secretary, she significantly strengthened the hands
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of Chinese firms like Huawei. This is the, you know, communications technology company that seven
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governments, including the United States, Australia, the UK, etc., have all said is joined at the hip with
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Chinese intelligence. She has done considerable benefit to them, loosening restrictions on some
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of the things they can do in the United States. And the question is, why? Why is she doing this? And I
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think part of the answer is her husband is involved at a very senior level and major stakeholder in this
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Path AI company that works in the field of artificial intelligence, which is of extreme interest to the
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Chinese government. And it is partly owned by Chinese state backed investment funds. So, you know, her net worth,
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her family's net worth is directly tied to the Chinese government. And I don't think you can separate the two.
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And my view, Lou, is if you look at the way that the Pentagon has requirements for people that are put in senior
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positions in the Pentagon, you're not allowed to have major shareholdings in companies that do major
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business with the Pentagon. There was a famous case a few years ago where a executive in the Bush, George W. Bush
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administration was going to take a Pentagon position, but he had major shareholding in Coca-Cola, which is a major
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contract. So he could not take the position. And yet you've got people at the Commerce Department who
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have major stakes, major ties to the Chinese government. And yet there's no restrictions on them
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being able to do that. So one of the reforms we should propose is we should not have people running
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the Commerce Department that have financial ties to Beijing, period. That seems like just a starting
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point on where we should be. I have to say that I think that your idea is exactly right.
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And I think you and I both remember when it wouldn't have been necessary to legislate or regulate
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any of these issues because one would expect of the of the so-called elites in both the Republican
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parties that they would never dream of having that conflict of interest with a foreign power that is
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the enemy, the principal enemy, I would argue, of the United States right this very moment.
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It's it's it's it's appalling to see where we have descended.
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No, you're right, Lou. And I mean, just look at this particular case involving Raimondo and her
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husband, Andrew Moffitt. So he is a, you know, a executive, a stakeholder, a major owner of Path
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AI, which is an artificial intelligence. President Xi of China has said that whoever wins the AI
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technology race is going to seize the commanding heights in the technology war. That's what he
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calls it with the United States. And so her husband runs an AI firm which takes a major investment from
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the Chinese government. Where are they expecting that their technology and their intellectual property
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is going to end up with that kind of arrangement? It's going to end up in Beijing. And yet she's
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supposed to be helping American business be competitive around the world against China.
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I mean, it's a massive, massive conflict of interest in a very important space. Artificial
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intelligence, which is, Xi says, is so key to the future of this technological war we have going on.
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I'm very suspicious of people who are ideologues, leftists, Marxists, who are also at the same time
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agnostic on the issue of national security and national interest. This is deeply troubling. And
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she is, she's the very, I think, among the foremost examples of what we're talking about. I want to talk
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about, because no one has reported more than you on a Hunter Biden, the Hunter family, and their
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corruption. I want to talk about that. And Joe Biden's compromise, and a number of other things.
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Particularly, I want to talk about McCarthyism, as we call it here on the podcast. But I want to also
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ask first about the laptop, and where you, well, where you, where you stand on the grand jury that's
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been investigating Hunter Biden for four years now. Yeah, it started in 2018, in the summer of 2018,
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about four or five months after my book, Secret Empires came out. I, one of the first interviews I
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did was with you, Lou, where we exposed that the Bidens had these financial ties to China. The grand
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jury met, and then COVID hit, and then essentially, grand juries, unless they were deemed to be high
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priorities, apparently this wasn't, it basically, you know, shut down for COVID. It restarted a few
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months ago. So they lost some time. And the concern here is not just the fact that we have the 2020
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election, and a lot of voters weren't made aware of these facts. You also have the issue of statute of
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limitations, because some of the stuff we're talking about that I believe involved criminal
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violations, the statute of limitations are seven years, six years, eight years. So the grand jury,
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I think, is moving pretty quickly. I think we're going to see indictments. I think one of the reasons
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that the Team Biden has been more accessible, let's say, to the media on these topics, is they anticipate
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there are going to probably be indictments, particularly on the tax evasion issues. But my
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biggest concern, Lou, is that the grand jury is going to come back. They're going to recommend that
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these things be investigated. And this Department of Justice, which let's remember, the leadership is
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appointed by the suspect's father, Joe Biden, is basically going to come up with some kind of plea
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deal. And maybe Hunter even goes to jail for a few months. But they desperately don't want there to
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be an open trial where these facts are discussed and where the American people understand and learn
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about the sordid way in which the Biden family operates. And the fact that Joe Biden was a
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beneficiary, that he was meeting with Hunter Biden's clients, you know, the whole collection of
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criminals and corrupt government officials and spies that the that the Biden family was taking
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money from. I think that's their biggest concern. And my view is Hunter Biden is the symbol of the
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larger problem. It doesn't begin with Hunter Biden. I really believe the American people need to know
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all the facts here. And that's where it's going to really come down to these congressional committees.
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When the new Congress convenes in January, if you, in fact, have a Republican majority,
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which I think I'm pretty confident in saying we're going to, is the leadership going to really
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aggressively pursue these issues with their subpoena power? Or are they just going to play
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lip service to it? Well, I want to come back to that as well. But I want you've you've set this up.
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So I want to deal with Kevin McCarthy and who is the minority leader, as you well know, of the of the
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House. He is. He is has been caught lying about the president. By the way, my my questions and my
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opposition to him holding any post has been because he is a rhino. He is far closer to a Democrat than
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he is a Republican. I can't tell you the number of people. And I'm sure you've heard the same thing
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who tell me what a nice guy he is. That is not an issue for me. What is an issue is he's a man who
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too eagerly betrayed the president of the United States in a moment of crisis. And I'm talking about
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January 6th. I'm also talking about the election in which he did nothing that highly questionable
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election and election results in 2020. I want to play, if I may, from Rachel Maddow,
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her reporting and her exclusive with an audio tape leaked to her by we do not know whom,
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but leaked to her of the Kevin McCarthy talking with Liz Cheney. And here it is.
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Liz, you on the phone? Yeah, I'm here. Thanks, Kevin. I guess there's a question. When we were
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talking about the 25th Amendment resolution, and you asked what happens if it gets there after he's
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gone, is there any chance, are you hearing, that he might resign? Is there any reason to think that
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might happen? I've had a few discussions. My gut tells me no. I'm seriously thinking of having that
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conversation with him tonight. I haven't talked to him in a couple of days. From what I know of him,
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I mean, you guys all know him too. Do you think he'd ever back away? But what I think I'm going to do
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is I'm going to call him. This is what I think. No one will pass the house. I think there's a chance
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he'll pass the family even when he's gone. And I think there's a lot of different ramifications for
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that. Now, I haven't had a discussion with the Dems that if he did resign, would it not happen? Now,
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this is one personal fear I have. I do not want to get into any conversation about Penn's partying.
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Again, I mean, the only discussion I would have with him is that I think this will pass,
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and it would be my recommendation we should resign. I mean, that would be my take, but I don't think he
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would take it, but I don't know. Your thoughts, Peter? Yeah, I mean, you know, I didn't think in a
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leaked conversation between Liz Cheney and McCarthy that the more principled one would be Liz Cheney,
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but that's essentially what you're getting. I mean, and you know, I think you're kind of the same way,
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Lou. I mean, you know, somebody, you may disagree with them, and you may think they're wrong. You may
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think they're unwise, but if they're open and candid to what their position is, you have more
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respect for that than somebody who's telling some people some things and other people publicly
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something else. So I think this is very damaging to McCarthy. I think there are other great leadership
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options. I mean, I'm not great at sort of handicapping these things. I've always thought Jim
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Jordan has a great fighting spirit. He's also smart. He's not an unguided missile, and he's
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prepared to do the right thing. So hopefully the other people are going to step forward. But I think
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this is severely damaging precisely because what people are looking for in leadership, this is part
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of the attraction of Donald Trump, is people that are genuine. They don't tell you something
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different privately than they tell you publicly. That's why I think this is so devastating
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at this particular time. Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. And I also agree with you on Jim
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Jordan. I'm told that he is reluctant ever to get involved in fundraising. He's desperately needed.
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I hope that he will listen to people like you who are calling on him to take up this immense
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responsibility because the Republican Party cannot afford any more rhinos. It's what I call McCarthyism.
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Peter, what I call McCarthyism is Kevin McCarthy is a rhino through and through. And the Republicans seem
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to be unable to break away from the Thunes, the Roy Blunts, the Barassos. And they must have
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Mitch McConnell's who are, as you know, better than anyone. His family is an interesting one.
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I'll put it that way. But his heart doesn't seem to be in the Republican Party.
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And I just don't understand why the Republican Party continues to go this way, because in that
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direction goes great corruption, great deception. And if they'll deceive you on one thing, they'll
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deceive you on everything else, including corruption of all kinds. Do you agree?
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Well, I do. And I mean, I would just sort of personalize it. I mean, you know, if you have
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a daughter, one of the things you want to teach your daughter when they reach into adulthood is
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guys are going to tell you all kinds of things. Don't believe what they're telling you. Look at what
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they're actually doing. And that's what I think the real question is here for the part that I have
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focused on Hunter Biden. Talk is cheap. Telling us you're going to investigate, you're going to
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issue subpoenas. That's really, you know, cheap. The question is, are you actually going to do it?
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And I think oftentimes conservatives settle too much for the sweet talk. They're not being wise in
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what they're hearing from their political leaders. And when their political leaders tell them they're
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committed to something, they believe them. And I'm not saying you want to be totally cynical,
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but I think you want to be a realist. You know, what was Reagan's old saying about the Soviets?
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Trust, but verify. You know, we cannot verify a lot of the things that we have been promised over
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the last decade by a lot of this leadership. So why do you think, why do we think we can trust them
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going forward? Exactly. And Mitch McConnell in a recent book being quoted as saying to the Democrats
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get the SOB referring to President Trump and their efforts to impeach him on the basis of January 6th,
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for crying out loud. I've got to say this right now to this audience. I don't want Kevin McCarthy
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to be speaker. I don't want Mitch McConnell to be the majority leader in the Senate.
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I think if they had one ounce of integrity or the people around them has one ounce of integrity,
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based on what they have said, disloyal remarks about President Trump, the deceit, the duplicity,
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and the lies that make up Republican leadership in both the Senate and the House.
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I'm calling on Kevin McCarthy to resign right now. This is absolutely an affront to everything that
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any leader in any House or either party should ever have committed. And to betray the President,
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uh, and to betray his conference in this way, if the Republican conference does not demand his
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resignation right now, I don't think they're worthy of anyone's vote in November. I really don't.
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It is, this has reached a level that is absolutely appalling. Uh, your thoughts, Peter, I don't mean to
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put you on the spot, but I am somewhat exercised about what we're witnessing here today.
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No, I, I, I think a principal leadership is the key. I mean, if you have the facts on your side,
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you have the truth on your side, uh, you have the ideas and the vision for the country that is the
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winning vision. It all comes down to principal leadership. And let's remember Lou, uh, when
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President Trump came into office in January of 2017, uh, we had Republican majorities right in the
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House and the Senate. Uh, and, and, uh, a lot of the agenda stalled, not because of Democrats. I mean,
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yeah, they did try to muck things up in the Senate as their want to do. It was because Republicans were,
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were, were jiggy. Uh, they, they weren't, uh, willing to advance that agenda. So, uh, you know,
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it's very fine for these people to point at the Democrats and, you know, throw up their hands in
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frustration. Uh, but Mitch McConnell was leading the Senate, uh, when a lot of these issues came up.
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And again, I would say with Mitch McConnell, uh, you know, be honest. If, if you have, uh,
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principled opposition to president Trump and come out and say it, uh, like you should, uh,
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don't say one thing in private and another thing in public and try to split the difference. That's
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the sort of thing I think people, uh, resent and dislike the most. And it, it appears that we're
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getting that from, uh, both the man who is going to be the leader in this Republican leader in the
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Senate and the man who at least at this point, uh, was, was, uh, the trajectory was, would be the
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leader in the house. And I will, uh, I've given you my definition of McCarthyism. That is the
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tendency of the Republicans to always put rhinos in position of leadership instead of a strong, uh,
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all I, I will even accept a centrist Republican leader, uh, as long as they put America first, uh,
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in every way, uh, that's not going to happen. So I guess I better just stick with America first
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conservatives. Uh, I, I just don't understand why, uh, the American people should be asked to vote
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Republican. If the conference doesn't have the guts to remove, demand the removal of those who have
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deceived them, the leader of their party, Donald J Trump, uh, and deceived all of us throughout their
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tenure as leaders in the house and the Senate, it is appalling, excuse me. Uh, and it, it has to
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change. I really don't think there'll be a way of election unless we see this happen because we know
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that all those millions of votes will amount to nothing calling for change and a steadfast secure
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border, uh, stopping illegal immigration, removing people who have entered here illegally now, uh,
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because of the whim of a mad Marxist, uh, puppet by the name of Biden. If we don't fix this now,
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and I mean, bring great care and an understanding of what is, uh, page the patriotic thing to do in
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our leadership, but we're lost. And these two men, McConnell and McCarthy are a huge part of the
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problem. They are in no way a solution to anything. I'm going to give you the last word. You've been
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kind to, uh, to stay with us a little longer than we intended. Uh, Peter, I just, uh, I, I can't wait
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to see the book. I can't wait to see your further reporting. And this is astounding, astounding
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reporting and, uh, our, our gratitude. Well, thank you, Lou, as always. Uh, no, I just, I think we're
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at an incredible important juncture in the country today. Um, and that is, are we going to continue
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doing what we're doing, which is leading us down this path, uh, where, uh, our country is damaged,
00:35:57.740
uh, where the American people have lost faith in their institutions, or are we going to demand
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accountability from our political class that includes Republicans, Democrats, moderates,
00:36:08.780
even conservatives. Um, we need to hold our leaders in account. Uh, and that means shining
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the light. That means expressing our views. And that means having a clear yardstick of what we expect
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from our leaders. And I think gone are the days Lou where, you know, the Democrats are in power and
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they're not doing well. So people are automatically going to vote Republican. Uh, that's not the day that
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we live in anymore. What's going to happen in the present is if the Republicans don't present
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principle leadership, uh, with a real agenda, uh, those people aren't going to vote Republican.
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They're just going to stay home. Uh, and the Democrats are going to retain power. So it's not
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about party. It's about principle and it's about holding people account. That's what your entire
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journalistic career has been about Lou. That's what I'm trying to do. Uh, and we're going to continue to
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do that. Amen, brother Peter. Well said as always. And, uh, I thank you for spending part of your day
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with us and sharing with our audience. You're reporting, uh, powerful, powerful reporting that
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every American needs to know. Uh, we appreciate it. God bless you, Peter. Peter Schweitzer, a great
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American indeed. And before we go today, I'd like to share with you an important story that's being
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heard at the U S Supreme court today. It's about a Washington state high school, assistant football
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coach who prayed at midfield at games for years. He was suddenly let go because students started
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praying with him. That was almost seven years ago. And finally, the Supreme court is hearing his case
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on freedom of religion to take this long. And my opinion on a case involving a citizen's fundamental
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constitutional right is outrageous and unacceptable. The hearing starts today. The case is
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Kennedy versus Bremerton school district and watch if you will, justice, Amy Barrett. She's not only
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wobbly on our bill of rights, it seems, but also fearfully ambivalent when she should be powerfully
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certain of citizens and our rights, at least. So it seems to me, I really want to be wrong about
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