The Great America Show - April 25, 2022


AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS, END MASSIVE CORRUPTION OR LOSE THE REPUBLIC


Episode Stats

Length

39 minutes

Words per Minute

155.16672

Word Count

6,104

Sentence Count

370

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

10


Summary

On today's show, host Lou Dobbs is joined by investigative reporter Peter Swiser and senior editor-at-large at the Government Accountability Institute, Peter Swizer, to discuss political corruption within the Republican leadership and the Chinese influence behind it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and welcome to The Great America Show. Great to have you with us.
00:00:05.920 And we're all about politics today. Political corruption and the Republican leadership,
00:00:12.080 the rhino left, and their agenda to get as close to the Democrat Party as possible,
00:00:18.040 and then abandon the working Americans and their families, our great middle class,
00:00:22.880 distance themselves from true border security, from controlled immigration into our nation,
00:00:28.880 not wide open borders that suit the corporatist media, the Business Roundtable, the Chamber of
00:00:34.540 Commerce, and Wall Street, all in league with the Marxist left, Dems, and their demand for amnesty,
00:00:41.300 wide open borders, and social programs in the billions for illegals, and the duplicity of
00:00:47.900 Republican leaders in the House and Senate. Their political corruption includes deceiving all voters
00:00:54.720 for Donald Trump, all voters who will vote Republican because they want this country fixed,
00:01:00.500 turned around, prosperity restored, and America first policies only in our foreign policy.
00:01:07.560 But you'll hear today the audio tape that proves House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy lied about his
00:01:14.480 support of President Trump, lied about January 6th and his alignment with the RINOs,
00:01:20.000 and the radical Dems who are still trying to impeach President Trump and destroy this country.
00:01:27.280 Today I'll have some special words for Kevin McCarthy and the Republican leaders who support him,
00:01:33.720 not only as Minority Leader, but for Speaker of the House if the GOP does succeed
00:01:38.980 in the November midterms with a wave election. Those Republicans on Capitol Hill,
00:01:45.140 who know full well that McCarthy is as phony as he needs to be in order to achieve his political
00:01:53.020 ambitions for himself. And I'll reserve a few thoughts for those who are accomplices and enablers
00:01:59.280 of McCarthyism. McCarthyism is what we call on this podcast, the practice of putting rhinos
00:02:06.520 in positions of GOP leadership. That's coming up here today.
00:02:11.560 And now we have with us Peter Swiser, intrepid and inspiring investigative reporter,
00:02:17.060 author of his most recent bestseller, Red Handed, the book that reveals the monies the Biden family
00:02:23.560 as an enterprise received from China. And he's also president of the Government Accountability
00:02:29.220 Institute, senior editor-at-large at Breitbart News, and one great American. Peter, great to have you
00:02:36.040 back with us. You've authored this new special report on corruption in particular at the Commerce
00:02:42.340 Department. Now, a lot of people are going to be surprised that you focused at least initially
00:02:48.420 on the Commerce Department. Why? Yeah, it's always great to be with you, Lou. Thanks so much for having
00:02:54.660 me. We want to look at commerce because honestly, it tends to be a dumping ground for political favors.
00:03:01.100 The Commerce Department, it's kind of sleepy. Very few people pay attention to it. But the fact is,
00:03:06.980 it has a lot of power in picking winners and losers in corporate America. And it also has a strong
00:03:13.660 influence over if we're going to put tariffs on foreign countries like China. A lot of the details
00:03:21.620 there are determined by the Commerce Department itself. And what we found, Lou, is that this agency
00:03:28.040 that was really set up to kind of protect American business, protect American workers, make us more
00:03:33.840 competitive around the world, make sure that, you know, trade agreements and rules are being enforced,
00:03:39.320 has really become the subject of an extensive lobbying effort that also includes efforts by Beijing
00:03:46.980 to curry favor with executives at that agency by giving sweetheart deals and forging commercial ties
00:03:55.460 with family members. And you, you talk about in this new report, you talk about elite capture.
00:04:02.340 You introduced millions of Americans to the term elite capture, which is a strategy by the,
00:04:10.600 particularly the Chinese, the communist Chinese, to basically buy out the souls of Americans and hold
00:04:21.680 them captive until they're needed. And they're needed frequently, aren't they?
00:04:26.500 Yeah, that's exactly right, Lou. I mean, you, you define it very clearly. And this is an overt
00:04:31.200 strategy. They started doing this first in New Zealand and Australia. They've been doing it in
00:04:37.340 the United States for quite a long time. And basically what they're looking for is a way to sort of
00:04:43.300 lobotomize America's political leadership. I mean, some people think our leaders are already
00:04:48.880 lobotomized literally, but the goal, the goal here is to, you know, find ways to help make American
00:04:56.800 politicians wealthy, make sure that they know that it's coming from the hand of Beijing. And they
00:05:02.580 usually do it by giving sweetheart deals to family members, people like Hunter Biden, but also people
00:05:08.640 like Mitch McConnell's family. And the idea is pretty genius. Once these political families start getting
00:05:15.060 wealthy and they know that it's coming from the government in China, they're going to start looking
00:05:20.380 the other way when China does certain things. What they're looking for are not robots, you know,
00:05:27.020 politicians that do exactly everything they want. They know that that makes those politicians not
00:05:33.060 viable politically. So the way it's defined, if you translate it from the Chinese, is they're looking
00:05:39.380 for big help with a little bad mouth. The little bad mouth is if you want to ding us on the Uyghurs, if you
00:05:46.100 want to talk about human rights, if you want to sort of vent your frustration about our trade policies,
00:05:51.120 that's fine. What they want is help on the big stuff, which is unfettered access to technology, to US
00:05:57.780 capital markets, and minimal restrictions on their ability to send subsidized goods to the United States. If you do
00:06:04.820 those things for them, they are happy to play ball and make you very wealthy, and that's indeed what
00:06:10.300 they've done. Well, amongst those people who are very wealthy to begin with, and I'm going to start,
00:06:17.220 and people may be surprised to hear me even say this, but Wilbur Ross, the Commerce Secretary under
00:06:23.720 President Trump, you raised some startling, I think is a fair word, connections and business dealings
00:06:32.980 that I don't think passed the smell test. I don't know whether they're illegal, frankly,
00:06:39.620 but they sure do look bad. Let's start with his shipping business.
00:06:45.600 Yeah, I mean, Wilbur Ross has a number of investments, but he's involved with two shipping
00:06:50.920 companies, and the co-owners of those shipping companies happen to be Chinese state-owned firms.
00:06:57.780 And so people would ask, well, why is this relevant? Well, it's relevant when President
00:07:02.800 Trump was in office. He did, I think, a lot of great work in trying to reorient our approach towards
00:07:10.380 China, recognizing their predatory practices in the area of economics, the military sphere, etc.
00:07:18.200 So part of his strategy was to erect tariffs. Those tariffs were enforced by the Commerce Department,
00:07:25.360 which was run by Wilbur Ross. If you go back and look what happened, the Commerce Department really
00:07:31.420 loosened those restrictions. They created exemptions. The exemptions included some of
00:07:37.520 Wilbur Ross's companies. He really gutted what President Trump was trying to do. That's not what you want
00:07:43.900 your own Commerce Secretary to do. And so the question becomes, is why was Wilbur Ross doing that? And I think
00:07:50.120 one of the reasons was he had these deep commercial ties with Beijing, and that influenced his decision-making
00:07:57.340 process. It's just another example, unfortunately, of how Wall Street and the swamp work to undermine
00:08:04.640 policies that are popular, that are put in place by an elected president, but they, behind the scenes,
00:08:11.620 work to weaken and gut those rules and regulations.
00:08:15.300 Now, President Trump lived up to his promise to the voters that he would curtail lobbyists. He was not
00:08:24.880 going to let there be that circular flow between Washington, D.C. and corporate America that is
00:08:32.500 so lucrative for congressmen, for their staff members, so forth, and others. But this goes on,
00:08:39.700 and meanwhile, the chairman, the chairman, the secretary of the Commerce Department retains
00:08:46.620 ownership in shipping companies that you say 62% of their business came from, guess where, South Korea,
00:08:58.320 even as, well, anyway, give us your explanation for that.
00:09:03.100 Yeah, I mean, this is another interesting case. So the shipping business,
00:09:06.540 a lot of its business is shipping steel goods, steel, from South Korea to the United States. And if
00:09:14.900 you remember, one of President Trump's initiatives to restart or encourage greater manufacturing in the
00:09:21.140 United States was to protect the American steel industry. And they were protecting them from China,
00:09:26.660 but also from South Korea. Well, what Wilbur Ross did was exempt certain South Korean steel companies
00:09:33.660 from U.S. tariffs. Those happened to be the steel companies that his shipping business was carrying
00:09:41.120 their goods to the United States. It's a massive conflict of interest. And to your point about
00:09:46.800 lobbying, I mean, this is the other problem. The Commerce Department became a focal point for
00:09:53.780 lobbying efforts by large American corporations. And here's the scary part, Lou. A lot of the companies
00:10:00.580 that were lobbying the Commerce Department were trying to limit these tariffs that President
00:10:06.540 Trump had put in place as it related to Asia in general. And these American companies were lobbying
00:10:13.220 to get those tariffs removed. A lot of lobbying wasn't done by Chinese or South Korean firms. It was done
00:10:19.520 by American firms doing their bidding for them. And that is part of the problem we face. A lot of our
00:10:25.940 largest corporations are not looking out for the interests of the country, American workers or the
00:10:31.160 United States. They're looking out for their own bottom line. And they're looking out for the interests
00:10:35.860 of their partners, which oftentimes reside in mainland China or somewhere else in Asia. It's an enormous
00:10:43.060 problem when you look at where corporate America is today. And to see also Jared Kushner's name
00:10:51.860 seeking partners to buy distressed industrial properties, Invesco that bought the W.L. Grayson,
00:11:01.780 W.L. Ross. I'm going back a few years. W.L. Ross and Company. It's this, you know, it is the nature of
00:11:13.200 business, networks and relationships. But there seems to be very little constraint. I'm surprised
00:11:21.720 at the constraints that were placed on board members, family members of the Trump family I'm
00:11:28.180 referring to, and what they were doing in business. It just seems to be outside, if you will, the bounds
00:11:37.880 of what President Trump stood for. And that troubles me deeply because I know that he really meant to
00:11:46.680 bring integrity to D.C. Yeah, I agree. And I mean, look, this is a classic example of, you know,
00:11:53.560 Donald Trump is a loyal guy and he's loyal to his family and he's loyal to his friends. And
00:11:58.520 unfortunately, sometimes people try to take advantage of that. And I think, you know, one of the big
00:12:04.860 mistakes, and I've said this before, one of the big mistakes he made, I think, was bringing his family
00:12:10.340 members into the White House, both his daughter and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, because you're not
00:12:17.380 going to get the sort of unfettered advice that you're going to get from somebody who's there that
00:12:23.440 shares your agenda. If they're a family member, I think they're going to have certain influence on
00:12:28.700 you that is really just not good. And I think that applied in this case, because it's pretty clear
00:12:34.120 there were certain key elements of Trump's agenda that were not shared by certain members of his
00:12:39.540 family, at least Jared Kushner and Ivanka. And that was a problem. And I think it was particularly
00:12:45.540 as a problem as it related to some of these foreign entities. Because let's remember, Jared
00:12:50.480 Kushner came in, his family has a lot of international business dealings, they own a lot of real estate,
00:12:56.700 and they have global interests. And to ask somebody like that to separate their interests while they're in
00:13:02.960 the White House, you need to be darn sure that they share your agenda. And unfortunately, in this case,
00:13:08.040 I don't think he did. And I don't think the president was well served by it.
00:13:12.640 Yeah. And, and we started there, because frankly, that is shocking to me. I've got high regard for
00:13:19.060 Wilbur Ross. And I think that perhaps he could have used better judgment. I'll put it that way.
00:13:25.600 Then you point out these qualified opportunity zones, QOZs. I love that acronym anyway.
00:13:32.160 And you mentioned Jared Kushner, you mentioned Chris Christie, Quicken Loans founder. But also,
00:13:39.040 we have former mayor, Pete Buttigieg, and now a cabinet member for President Biden, which I consider
00:13:49.020 to be one of the most corrupt administrations in history, not only inept, but crooked,
00:13:56.500 with projects in South Bend, which he was for the former mayor, opportunity zones, he helped identify
00:14:06.160 where those projects would be. And it's just so, again, circular, and raises huge questions.
00:14:15.860 It does. Yeah, Mayor Pete has positioned himself as sort of the fresh new face of politics. He's the
00:14:24.460 mayor of this, you know, neat industrial town in South Bend. I've been there. It's a nice place. But
00:14:30.000 the problem is, he was steering these opportunity zones, grants and loans to political patrons and
00:14:38.160 political supporters of his. If you're really, truly interested in revitalizing urban America,
00:14:44.440 which I think is a great idea, it's a good America first agenda, it should not be handled by
00:14:50.620 politicians like Pete Buttigieg, who are doling them out to his political sponsors. So it's another
00:14:56.600 example of kind of the ugly side of the Commerce Department. I think we need a Commerce Department
00:15:02.000 that does what its original mission was, which is to protect American business and encourage
00:15:08.280 their success overseas. But when you get these politicians that are using it to either line
00:15:14.120 their pockets, benefit their, you know, their families or friends or their political donors,
00:15:19.160 that is a disservice to the country. And it's frankly surprising to me. You know, we talked a
00:15:26.220 little bit about Jared Kushner, some of that got some reporting, no real reporting on Pete Buttigieg. And
00:15:33.120 the media has not reported on this. When they should have given all the press attention he's given,
00:15:38.800 and given the fact that he was the mayor of a relatively small town, it's not hard to find
00:15:44.620 this stuff out. Unfortunately, they chose not to because they apparently weren't that interested.
00:15:50.660 Not that interested. And we have the same example with the current Commerce Secretary,
00:15:56.060 Gino Raimondo's husband, Andrew Moffitt, an executive at the Chinese funded technology firm called Path
00:16:05.620 AI, subject to regulations by the department that his wife runs. There's that good old Commerce
00:16:14.760 Department right in the middle of it again. That's right, Lou. And what's really interesting
00:16:20.360 about this case is when the Secretary Raimondo came into office, the initial claims of the Biden
00:16:28.140 administration is they were going to, you know, sort of leave Trump's tariffs in place at some level
00:16:33.920 and use it as a bargaining chip. That's really been melted away. If you look at some of the
00:16:39.820 initiatives and things that she's done as Commerce Secretary, she significantly strengthened the hands
00:16:46.180 of Chinese firms like Huawei. This is the, you know, communications technology company that seven
00:16:52.900 governments, including the United States, Australia, the UK, etc., have all said is joined at the hip with
00:16:59.740 Chinese intelligence. She has done considerable benefit to them, loosening restrictions on some
00:17:06.400 of the things they can do in the United States. And the question is, why? Why is she doing this? And I
00:17:11.820 think part of the answer is her husband is involved at a very senior level and major stakeholder in this
00:17:19.500 Path AI company that works in the field of artificial intelligence, which is of extreme interest to the
00:17:25.500 Chinese government. And it is partly owned by Chinese state backed investment funds. So, you know, her net worth,
00:17:34.740 her family's net worth is directly tied to the Chinese government. And I don't think you can separate the two.
00:17:42.220 And my view, Lou, is if you look at the way that the Pentagon has requirements for people that are put in senior
00:17:49.500 positions in the Pentagon, you're not allowed to have major shareholdings in companies that do major
00:17:56.940 business with the Pentagon. There was a famous case a few years ago where a executive in the Bush, George W. Bush
00:18:05.460 administration was going to take a Pentagon position, but he had major shareholding in Coca-Cola, which is a major
00:18:13.260 contract. So he could not take the position. And yet you've got people at the Commerce Department who
00:18:19.380 have major stakes, major ties to the Chinese government. And yet there's no restrictions on them
00:18:25.820 being able to do that. So one of the reforms we should propose is we should not have people running
00:18:31.780 the Commerce Department that have financial ties to Beijing, period. That seems like just a starting
00:18:37.620 point on where we should be. I have to say that I think that your idea is exactly right.
00:18:43.900 And I think you and I both remember when it wouldn't have been necessary to legislate or regulate
00:18:49.480 any of these issues because one would expect of the of the so-called elites in both the Republican
00:18:57.340 parties that they would never dream of having that conflict of interest with a foreign power that is
00:19:04.200 the enemy, the principal enemy, I would argue, of the United States right this very moment.
00:19:11.920 It's it's it's it's appalling to see where we have descended.
00:19:16.820 No, you're right, Lou. And I mean, just look at this particular case involving Raimondo and her
00:19:21.220 husband, Andrew Moffitt. So he is a, you know, a executive, a stakeholder, a major owner of Path
00:19:29.520 AI, which is an artificial intelligence. President Xi of China has said that whoever wins the AI
00:19:37.140 technology race is going to seize the commanding heights in the technology war. That's what he
00:19:43.960 calls it with the United States. And so her husband runs an AI firm which takes a major investment from
00:19:50.400 the Chinese government. Where are they expecting that their technology and their intellectual property
00:19:55.500 is going to end up with that kind of arrangement? It's going to end up in Beijing. And yet she's
00:20:00.180 supposed to be helping American business be competitive around the world against China.
00:20:04.660 I mean, it's a massive, massive conflict of interest in a very important space. Artificial
00:20:10.280 intelligence, which is, Xi says, is so key to the future of this technological war we have going on.
00:20:15.820 I'm very suspicious of people who are ideologues, leftists, Marxists, who are also at the same time
00:20:26.580 agnostic on the issue of national security and national interest. This is deeply troubling. And
00:20:34.040 she is, she's the very, I think, among the foremost examples of what we're talking about. I want to talk
00:20:42.380 about, because no one has reported more than you on a Hunter Biden, the Hunter family, and their
00:20:49.580 corruption. I want to talk about that. And Joe Biden's compromise, and a number of other things.
00:20:58.740 Particularly, I want to talk about McCarthyism, as we call it here on the podcast. But I want to also
00:21:05.160 ask first about the laptop, and where you, well, where you, where you stand on the grand jury that's
00:21:14.400 been investigating Hunter Biden for four years now. Yeah, it started in 2018, in the summer of 2018,
00:21:22.740 about four or five months after my book, Secret Empires came out. I, one of the first interviews I
00:21:28.600 did was with you, Lou, where we exposed that the Bidens had these financial ties to China. The grand
00:21:34.920 jury met, and then COVID hit, and then essentially, grand juries, unless they were deemed to be high
00:21:41.220 priorities, apparently this wasn't, it basically, you know, shut down for COVID. It restarted a few
00:21:50.760 months ago. So they lost some time. And the concern here is not just the fact that we have the 2020
00:21:57.880 election, and a lot of voters weren't made aware of these facts. You also have the issue of statute of
00:22:03.680 limitations, because some of the stuff we're talking about that I believe involved criminal
00:22:08.000 violations, the statute of limitations are seven years, six years, eight years. So the grand jury,
00:22:14.940 I think, is moving pretty quickly. I think we're going to see indictments. I think one of the reasons
00:22:19.680 that the Team Biden has been more accessible, let's say, to the media on these topics, is they anticipate
00:22:28.120 there are going to probably be indictments, particularly on the tax evasion issues. But my
00:22:34.040 biggest concern, Lou, is that the grand jury is going to come back. They're going to recommend that
00:22:39.620 these things be investigated. And this Department of Justice, which let's remember, the leadership is
00:22:45.020 appointed by the suspect's father, Joe Biden, is basically going to come up with some kind of plea
00:22:51.520 deal. And maybe Hunter even goes to jail for a few months. But they desperately don't want there to
00:22:58.000 be an open trial where these facts are discussed and where the American people understand and learn
00:23:04.800 about the sordid way in which the Biden family operates. And the fact that Joe Biden was a
00:23:10.220 beneficiary, that he was meeting with Hunter Biden's clients, you know, the whole collection of
00:23:17.600 criminals and corrupt government officials and spies that the that the Biden family was taking
00:23:24.180 money from. I think that's their biggest concern. And my view is Hunter Biden is the symbol of the
00:23:31.580 larger problem. It doesn't begin with Hunter Biden. I really believe the American people need to know
00:23:37.540 all the facts here. And that's where it's going to really come down to these congressional committees.
00:23:42.420 When the new Congress convenes in January, if you, in fact, have a Republican majority,
00:23:48.420 which I think I'm pretty confident in saying we're going to, is the leadership going to really
00:23:52.820 aggressively pursue these issues with their subpoena power? Or are they just going to play
00:23:57.420 lip service to it? Well, I want to come back to that as well. But I want you've you've set this up.
00:24:03.420 So I want to deal with Kevin McCarthy and who is the minority leader, as you well know, of the of the
00:24:11.220 House. He is. He is has been caught lying about the president. By the way, my my questions and my
00:24:22.020 opposition to him holding any post has been because he is a rhino. He is far closer to a Democrat than
00:24:30.040 he is a Republican. I can't tell you the number of people. And I'm sure you've heard the same thing
00:24:34.800 who tell me what a nice guy he is. That is not an issue for me. What is an issue is he's a man who
00:24:43.340 too eagerly betrayed the president of the United States in a moment of crisis. And I'm talking about
00:24:49.300 January 6th. I'm also talking about the election in which he did nothing that highly questionable
00:24:56.560 election and election results in 2020. I want to play, if I may, from Rachel Maddow,
00:25:06.200 her reporting and her exclusive with an audio tape leaked to her by we do not know whom,
00:25:15.000 but leaked to her of the Kevin McCarthy talking with Liz Cheney. And here it is.
00:25:21.360 Liz, you on the phone? Yeah, I'm here. Thanks, Kevin. I guess there's a question. When we were
00:25:27.860 talking about the 25th Amendment resolution, and you asked what happens if it gets there after he's
00:25:34.740 gone, is there any chance, are you hearing, that he might resign? Is there any reason to think that
00:25:40.680 might happen? I've had a few discussions. My gut tells me no. I'm seriously thinking of having that
00:25:54.020 conversation with him tonight. I haven't talked to him in a couple of days. From what I know of him,
00:26:00.720 I mean, you guys all know him too. Do you think he'd ever back away? But what I think I'm going to do
00:26:06.940 is I'm going to call him. This is what I think. No one will pass the house. I think there's a chance
00:26:16.880 he'll pass the family even when he's gone. And I think there's a lot of different ramifications for
00:26:24.820 that. Now, I haven't had a discussion with the Dems that if he did resign, would it not happen? Now,
00:26:32.620 this is one personal fear I have. I do not want to get into any conversation about Penn's partying.
00:26:40.820 Again, I mean, the only discussion I would have with him is that I think this will pass,
00:26:46.380 and it would be my recommendation we should resign. I mean, that would be my take, but I don't think he
00:26:53.900 would take it, but I don't know. Your thoughts, Peter? Yeah, I mean, you know, I didn't think in a
00:27:03.240 leaked conversation between Liz Cheney and McCarthy that the more principled one would be Liz Cheney,
00:27:11.580 but that's essentially what you're getting. I mean, and you know, I think you're kind of the same way,
00:27:17.540 Lou. I mean, you know, somebody, you may disagree with them, and you may think they're wrong. You may
00:27:22.680 think they're unwise, but if they're open and candid to what their position is, you have more
00:27:27.840 respect for that than somebody who's telling some people some things and other people publicly
00:27:32.940 something else. So I think this is very damaging to McCarthy. I think there are other great leadership
00:27:39.360 options. I mean, I'm not great at sort of handicapping these things. I've always thought Jim
00:27:44.820 Jordan has a great fighting spirit. He's also smart. He's not an unguided missile, and he's
00:27:52.420 prepared to do the right thing. So hopefully the other people are going to step forward. But I think
00:27:56.340 this is severely damaging precisely because what people are looking for in leadership, this is part
00:28:02.340 of the attraction of Donald Trump, is people that are genuine. They don't tell you something
00:28:07.340 different privately than they tell you publicly. That's why I think this is so devastating
00:28:12.460 at this particular time. Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. And I also agree with you on Jim
00:28:19.260 Jordan. I'm told that he is reluctant ever to get involved in fundraising. He's desperately needed.
00:28:29.180 I hope that he will listen to people like you who are calling on him to take up this immense
00:28:37.420 responsibility because the Republican Party cannot afford any more rhinos. It's what I call McCarthyism.
00:28:45.420 Peter, what I call McCarthyism is Kevin McCarthy is a rhino through and through. And the Republicans seem
00:28:54.300 to be unable to break away from the Thunes, the Roy Blunts, the Barassos. And they must have
00:29:03.180 Mitch McConnell's who are, as you know, better than anyone. His family is an interesting one.
00:29:11.020 I'll put it that way. But his heart doesn't seem to be in the Republican Party.
00:29:16.540 And I just don't understand why the Republican Party continues to go this way, because in that
00:29:20.940 direction goes great corruption, great deception. And if they'll deceive you on one thing, they'll
00:29:26.380 deceive you on everything else, including corruption of all kinds. Do you agree?
00:29:34.060 Well, I do. And I mean, I would just sort of personalize it. I mean, you know, if you have
00:29:38.140 a daughter, one of the things you want to teach your daughter when they reach into adulthood is
00:29:42.940 guys are going to tell you all kinds of things. Don't believe what they're telling you. Look at what
00:29:48.220 they're actually doing. And that's what I think the real question is here for the part that I have
00:29:53.100 focused on Hunter Biden. Talk is cheap. Telling us you're going to investigate, you're going to
00:29:58.300 issue subpoenas. That's really, you know, cheap. The question is, are you actually going to do it?
00:30:03.660 And I think oftentimes conservatives settle too much for the sweet talk. They're not being wise in
00:30:10.460 what they're hearing from their political leaders. And when their political leaders tell them they're
00:30:15.100 committed to something, they believe them. And I'm not saying you want to be totally cynical,
00:30:20.540 but I think you want to be a realist. You know, what was Reagan's old saying about the Soviets?
00:30:25.260 Trust, but verify. You know, we cannot verify a lot of the things that we have been promised over
00:30:33.260 the last decade by a lot of this leadership. So why do you think, why do we think we can trust them
00:30:38.540 going forward? Exactly. And Mitch McConnell in a recent book being quoted as saying to the Democrats
00:30:51.580 get the SOB referring to President Trump and their efforts to impeach him on the basis of January 6th,
00:30:58.700 for crying out loud. I've got to say this right now to this audience. I don't want Kevin McCarthy
00:31:08.300 to be speaker. I don't want Mitch McConnell to be the majority leader in the Senate.
00:31:18.460 I think if they had one ounce of integrity or the people around them has one ounce of integrity,
00:31:24.380 based on what they have said, disloyal remarks about President Trump, the deceit, the duplicity,
00:31:30.220 and the lies that make up Republican leadership in both the Senate and the House.
00:31:34.780 I'm calling on Kevin McCarthy to resign right now. This is absolutely an affront to everything that
00:31:43.180 any leader in any House or either party should ever have committed. And to betray the President,
00:31:51.420 uh, and to betray his conference in this way, if the Republican conference does not demand his
00:31:57.900 resignation right now, I don't think they're worthy of anyone's vote in November. I really don't.
00:32:03.100 It is, this has reached a level that is absolutely appalling. Uh, your thoughts, Peter, I don't mean to
00:32:10.940 put you on the spot, but I am somewhat exercised about what we're witnessing here today.
00:32:15.820 No, I, I, I think a principal leadership is the key. I mean, if you have the facts on your side,
00:32:22.460 you have the truth on your side, uh, you have the ideas and the vision for the country that is the
00:32:27.660 winning vision. It all comes down to principal leadership. And let's remember Lou, uh, when
00:32:33.580 President Trump came into office in January of 2017, uh, we had Republican majorities right in the
00:32:39.980 House and the Senate. Uh, and, and, uh, a lot of the agenda stalled, not because of Democrats. I mean,
00:32:46.140 yeah, they did try to muck things up in the Senate as their want to do. It was because Republicans were,
00:32:51.580 were, were jiggy. Uh, they, they weren't, uh, willing to advance that agenda. So, uh, you know,
00:32:57.260 it's very fine for these people to point at the Democrats and, you know, throw up their hands in
00:33:01.900 frustration. Uh, but Mitch McConnell was leading the Senate, uh, when a lot of these issues came up.
00:33:07.100 And again, I would say with Mitch McConnell, uh, you know, be honest. If, if you have, uh,
00:33:12.780 principled opposition to president Trump and come out and say it, uh, like you should, uh,
00:33:18.940 don't say one thing in private and another thing in public and try to split the difference. That's
00:33:23.740 the sort of thing I think people, uh, resent and dislike the most. And it, it appears that we're
00:33:28.940 getting that from, uh, both the man who is going to be the leader in this Republican leader in the
00:33:33.820 Senate and the man who at least at this point, uh, was, was, uh, the trajectory was, would be the
00:33:39.820 leader in the house. And I will, uh, I've given you my definition of McCarthyism. That is the
00:33:45.900 tendency of the Republicans to always put rhinos in position of leadership instead of a strong, uh,
00:33:52.220 all I, I will even accept a centrist Republican leader, uh, as long as they put America first, uh,
00:33:59.820 in every way, uh, that's not going to happen. So I guess I better just stick with America first
00:34:05.180 conservatives. Uh, I, I just don't understand why, uh, the American people should be asked to vote
00:34:12.140 Republican. If the conference doesn't have the guts to remove, demand the removal of those who have
00:34:19.500 deceived them, the leader of their party, Donald J Trump, uh, and deceived all of us throughout their
00:34:27.980 tenure as leaders in the house and the Senate, it is appalling, excuse me. Uh, and it, it has to
00:34:35.020 change. I really don't think there'll be a way of election unless we see this happen because we know
00:34:41.580 that all those millions of votes will amount to nothing calling for change and a steadfast secure
00:34:48.220 border, uh, stopping illegal immigration, removing people who have entered here illegally now, uh,
00:34:55.180 because of the whim of a mad Marxist, uh, puppet by the name of Biden. If we don't fix this now,
00:35:02.700 and I mean, bring great care and an understanding of what is, uh, page the patriotic thing to do in
00:35:10.540 our leadership, but we're lost. And these two men, McConnell and McCarthy are a huge part of the
00:35:18.460 problem. They are in no way a solution to anything. I'm going to give you the last word. You've been
00:35:25.820 kind to, uh, to stay with us a little longer than we intended. Uh, Peter, I just, uh, I, I can't wait
00:35:32.860 to see the book. I can't wait to see your further reporting. And this is astounding, astounding
00:35:38.620 reporting and, uh, our, our gratitude. Well, thank you, Lou, as always. Uh, no, I just, I think we're
00:35:44.940 at an incredible important juncture in the country today. Um, and that is, are we going to continue
00:35:51.260 doing what we're doing, which is leading us down this path, uh, where, uh, our country is damaged,
00:35:57.740 uh, where the American people have lost faith in their institutions, or are we going to demand
00:36:02.860 accountability from our political class that includes Republicans, Democrats, moderates,
00:36:08.780 even conservatives. Um, we need to hold our leaders in account. Uh, and that means shining
00:36:15.340 the light. That means expressing our views. And that means having a clear yardstick of what we expect
00:36:21.980 from our leaders. And I think gone are the days Lou where, you know, the Democrats are in power and
00:36:27.500 they're not doing well. So people are automatically going to vote Republican. Uh, that's not the day that
00:36:33.260 we live in anymore. What's going to happen in the present is if the Republicans don't present
00:36:38.380 principle leadership, uh, with a real agenda, uh, those people aren't going to vote Republican.
00:36:43.500 They're just going to stay home. Uh, and the Democrats are going to retain power. So it's not
00:36:48.060 about party. It's about principle and it's about holding people account. That's what your entire
00:36:53.420 journalistic career has been about Lou. That's what I'm trying to do. Uh, and we're going to continue to
00:36:58.220 do that. Amen, brother Peter. Well said as always. And, uh, I thank you for spending part of your day
00:37:06.380 with us and sharing with our audience. You're reporting, uh, powerful, powerful reporting that
00:37:12.620 every American needs to know. Uh, we appreciate it. God bless you, Peter. Peter Schweitzer, a great
00:37:19.900 American indeed. And before we go today, I'd like to share with you an important story that's being
00:37:26.140 heard at the U S Supreme court today. It's about a Washington state high school, assistant football
00:37:32.860 coach who prayed at midfield at games for years. He was suddenly let go because students started
00:37:39.820 praying with him. That was almost seven years ago. And finally, the Supreme court is hearing his case
00:37:47.580 on freedom of religion to take this long. And my opinion on a case involving a citizen's fundamental
00:37:54.620 constitutional right is outrageous and unacceptable. The hearing starts today. The case is
00:38:02.460 Kennedy versus Bremerton school district and watch if you will, justice, Amy Barrett. She's not only
00:38:09.740 wobbly on our bill of rights, it seems, but also fearfully ambivalent when she should be powerfully
00:38:15.900 certain of citizens and our rights, at least. So it seems to me, I really want to be wrong about
00:38:24.220 justice Barrett tomorrow. Nothing wobbly about our guest ever. Our guest is a strong defender of America
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