00:05:56.620He didn't draw his salary directly from them or his 401k, but he worked very closely with them.
00:06:03.400We know that in 2013, he was given a prize by then FBI director James Comey for helping break a case.
00:06:11.240But one of the things that this company that he that he was with, New Star, one of the things they did,
00:06:17.280they helped process court orders, including Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants.
00:06:24.300So they were an intermediary between the spy services, mostly the FBI, the national, you know, the NSA and Internet service providers and phone carriers.
00:06:37.200Because it's a lot of work for the phone carriers to produce all of this material that the FBI or NSA asked for.
00:06:43.700So New Star would be the intermediary.
00:06:46.260So that shows you how close they are to the FBI and to the intelligence community.
00:07:15.180This is a national this is a national security disaster for the United States.
00:07:19.880And I know that, of course, most Democrats don't regard it as such.
00:07:22.840They'll see it as, you know, President Donald Trump and all of Trump's people and all of his supporters got what they deserve.
00:07:29.580But this is and this has enormously bad consequences for the country.
00:07:34.140And it has seemed so late to me from the very beginning when you when you even raise the specter of the president of the United States being spied upon.
00:07:45.100And then backfill that with the the attempts then as early as August of 2016 to be preparing to frame the president's about to be named National Security Advisor General Michael Flynn and what had to be going on around that effort.
00:08:07.780It was deeply troubling from the beginning.
00:08:10.600But then the fight became for the preservation of the presidency itself, the fight for President Trump, because he was being absolutely assaulted by the Democrats, by Hillary Clinton standing up in a debate and basically saying this guy is a you know, she wanted to clearly imply pretty darn directly that he was an asset of the Russian secret agency.
00:08:40.600Right. And now we're seeing how this information, how this campaign was assembled, how it was put together through Clinton campaign operatives, through tech executives who are close to the Democratic Party.
00:08:57.920I know this guy, I know this guy, I know this guy, I know this guy is saying he was a, you know, a non-political tech executive.
00:09:04.380I mean, the CEO of the company, New Star at the time, came out and endorsed Hillary Clinton.
00:09:09.520I mean, these are these are clearly people in the Democratic Party's fold.
00:09:13.080And it also gives us more detail on what the Democratic Party is right now.
00:09:16.460I mean, it is it is the political instrument, the actual political instrument of what we've come to call over the last several years correctly and accurately, I believe, the deep state.
00:09:27.420Yes. So you see these different connections and you see how they're hooked into the intelligence community and who the intelligence community is targeting and on whose behalf they're they're they're they're they're targeting.
00:09:36.760And as you said, there's General Michael Flynn. There's President Donald Trump.
00:09:41.700And now, as we see with, you know, with January 6th, there are Trump supporters.
00:09:45.980So this is this is this is how this started. It's very, very important detail.
00:09:53.580And in terms of the expanse that you're talking about that suddenly revealed here without question, Perkins, Coy, everyone had a sense of what they were.
00:10:04.840But then this moves out to other law firms and they become more than counselors at law.
00:10:13.900They become more than they should have something more than Esquire behind their names.
00:10:18.140These people are involved in the effort to surveil the candidate, a president of the United States, to construct a fiction upon which you can create a predicate for an FBI investigation, for a special counsel, for an impeachment.
00:10:36.980My Lord, this goes beyond anything that I think anyone could have imagined in, say, 2016.
00:10:43.800I agree. I don't think no one had any sense at the time.
00:10:49.520And I don't think that we're just being naive.
00:10:51.680I think we I think we believe the things that Americans are expected to believe about our law enforcement agencies, about our clandestine service.
00:11:00.460While there are certainly some rotten apples there, by and large, these people are doing their job.
00:11:04.980And that's to protect Americans and to protect American national security.
00:11:08.980And as it turns out, this is not what's going on.
00:11:14.720And it hasn't been going on certainly since 2016.
00:11:18.020I mean, we talk about the political crimes and those are very important.
00:11:21.560But, Lou, one of the things that that I've been talking about for a while and I think is really vital is if we see right now what's going on in in Eastern Europe regarding Russia and Ukraine and the kind of intelligence we're getting on that from our IC.
00:11:38.280And some of the nonsense that Joe Biden and Jake Sullivan and Anthony Blinken, all of his top, you know, all of his top cabinet aides for foreign policy and national security.
00:11:48.340I mean, look, for five years, these people have made up stories about Russia and Ukraine.
00:11:53.840I mean, there are real threats out there in the world that are dangerous to American national interest and that are dangerous to U.S. citizens, dangerous to our neighbors, dangerous to servicemen.
00:12:03.180And these guys have been making up stories.
00:12:05.140So they've used the intelligence resources and programs of the IC just to go after their enemies.
00:12:12.780And because of that, they've not only squandered American prestige, they've endangered Americans.
00:12:32.040And, of course, this is one of the funny things because you hear from these boys all the time.
00:12:36.780It's like, well, you know, our failures are always all over the papers, but our successes are very quiet.
00:12:44.080No one ever hears about those, which is nonsense because we know that any success they have, they will leak to the New York Times or the Washington Post.
00:12:51.140And some of the times they will even say that they did something when it was another service that did something and they have nothing to do with it.
00:12:59.320So they take as much credit as they can for doing something, for getting it right.
00:13:05.460And we see how rare that's been recently.
00:13:08.000What has the FBI and the CIA been in the news for the last five years targeting Donald Trump, now targeting Donald Trump supporters?
00:13:17.120And there is also an adjunct to this is their their complicit relationship with the national corporate media.
00:13:28.980The left wing media may be referred to, but there has been absolute silence on this.
00:13:34.680The Washington Post, the New York Times, CBS News, CNN couldn't wait for each morning to begin their day with all sorts of leaks and feeds from the intelligence agencies, from the from the FBI, from the Democratic left.
00:13:51.800If there is any other part of the Democratic Party, I think that becomes redundant, doesn't it?
00:13:57.980It has been amazing that they have been absolutely silent on Durham's filing and what it portends.
00:14:06.820Well, I mean, we look at what they're, you know, I mean, you know, Lou, I mean, you're you're one of the greats in the field of journalism and you're a veteran in the field.
00:14:19.180I mean, what what what would you do if you were at one of these places?
00:14:22.220I mean, I think I'd like to think that most professional journalists would be appalled if they had to show up on CNN or MSNBC and they're sharing airtime with with with a former intelligence officer who lied professionally.
00:14:35.360And that's what they're supposed to do. Right.
00:14:37.100The CIA is paid to steal foreign country secrets, not set up our president.
00:14:42.660They're paid to steal the secrets of foreign countries and they're paid to lie.
00:14:47.060And now these people are put on TV, on CNN and on MSNBC, CBS, The Washington Post, New York Times.
00:14:55.440And we're supposed to take this seriously. This is not journalism.
00:14:58.840This this is these places are platforms for information operations run by spies.
00:15:04.160I cannot believe. And this is why I say again and again, this is nothing like partisan media.
00:15:09.000We you and I know what it looks like to be, you know, to have to process a whole bunch of, you know, liberal talking points or left wing talking points.
00:15:17.940But this is not partisan. These are this comes from intelligence services.
00:15:23.960That's what's going on. And it's it's astonishing.
00:15:26.860And I think that lots of people are starting to understand and thank goodness there are people, you know, people like you that are explaining how the how the world actually works and what the real news is.
00:15:37.320But a lot of Americans are lost. Well, and and we should be very clear about this.
00:15:44.240This takes some fairly heavy trudging some days to get through because this is being played out.
00:15:51.240This information warfare that this information warfare that and this country is now the primary battleground for information warfare, both from internal internal opponents, as well as, of course, the usual external foreign opponents of U.S. interest.
00:16:11.760But right now, there is more smoke rising over that battlefield and bigger craters in our national institutions and frankly, are what we have always presumed to be our rightful understanding of whose side the government, the U.S. government would be on.
00:16:33.020Right. It's no longer the case. This government is the at various points, the biggest threat to the American people.
00:16:43.400Absolutely. Can you can you ever have imagined in the Cold War and the heat of the Cold War, the way that these guys throw around phrases like Russian disinformation now, everything, whether it's Hunter Biden's laptop, whether it's whether it's Canadian truckers who are protesting against vaccine mandates.
00:17:02.960Everything for these people is Russian disinformation. I can't believe it. It's like we're living in a magical world, you know, where anything they don't want to hear, they plug up their ears with their hands and they just start screaming Russian disinformation.
00:17:17.260That right now is the American public sphere. And at the top of it is the president of the United States, Joe Biden. It's astonishing.
00:17:25.340You know, we're going to if it's all right with you. Yeah, let's weave in and out of this issue on Durham and his filings, because it is it's great.
00:17:36.160It is it's insinuated into lots of things that are happening right now and much is influencing the process that John Durham, the special counsel, has put in motion now.
00:17:49.060One of the first reactions is for Sussman's attorneys to try to to end his prosecution by saying it was prosecutorial overreach for Durham, the special counsel, to include within his filing a week ago, Friday, a factual context within those papers.
00:18:15.720Right. Your reaction to that. Well, I mean, my reaction was, is that was that the responsive filing from Sussman's lawyers is they said, like, hey, look, he got this information when he was working for Barack Obama's White House, not for not for Donald Trump's White House, not that executive office of the president.
00:18:36.480I mean, that that to me is hardly exculpatory. Again, that's what I mean when I say it broadens, it broadens the spectrum that we're looking at here.
00:18:47.540So this is what this guy was doing when he's working on the these Internet server issues in the Obama White House.
00:18:54.400I mean, that's just amazing. I mean, again, we had some indication before that Obama officials were unmasking Trump transition team officials, especially especially General Michael Flynn.
00:19:06.060But to see, again, more detail on this. So that's what they were doing in the Obama White House.
00:19:11.620And they had people in there who were spying on Donald Trump because of different different levels of access they had to servers in the Obama White House.
00:19:23.040And some have. Oh, well, no, never mind. No big deal then. No, I think that's even worse.
00:19:27.200I'm very happy that they provided that information and I'm very happy that they gave more detail on the information.
00:19:33.980What Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussman then took to the CIA.
00:19:39.440Sussman is a former DOJ official. Of course, he knows the CIA is not going to investigate that.
00:19:46.000What was the purpose? Well, we'll wait and get more detail from Mr. Durham.
00:19:49.940But it appears to me that this is just a replay of what they were doing all this time in the anti-Trump operation, finding different ways to push material in.
00:20:01.300Right. To to get more evidence, more bogus evidence, of course, with which to investigate Donald Trump.
00:20:08.260I assume what happened here is Sussman took it to the CIA.
00:20:11.980This is these two CIA officials. They said, well, we can't do anything with it.
00:20:15.600We'll hand it over to the boys at the FBI.
00:20:18.260And with all the garbage they already had of the FBI on Trump in Russia, I'm sure this was just another file that they had.
00:20:24.580But remember what happened at what was going on at the time at the CIA.
00:20:29.640John Brennan had left. But before John Brennan left on Barack Obama's instructions,
00:20:34.480they produced the intelligence community assessment, an official document delegitimizing the 2016 election.
00:20:45.540Remember, they said, yes, we assessed with high confidence that Vladimir Putin tried to help Donald Trump win the presidency.
00:20:53.720I mean, that that was intended to delegitimize Trump's presidency.
00:20:59.620So, again, I mean, that's that's our CIA right there. That's the intelligence community.
00:21:03.800And what else happened a couple of months later? Now we know that Eric Charamella is in the White House.
00:21:09.680A CIA analyst is in. So, again, the more and more parts that we can have filled in here, we see it's not just the FBI.
00:21:18.680We see it's the CIA and we see more and more of the hand of Barack Obama's White House.
00:21:26.260I want to introduce one other area here that is orbiting all of this or, if you will, circling the drain on the outer perimeter.
00:21:38.620The CIA didn't just go to the FBI, it seems to me.
00:21:43.660And this is purely my conjecture inferring what I do from all that happened in London.
00:21:51.160And everything that was going on ancillary to this and what became a bit of, I think, the subtext of the story, at least.
00:22:03.200And that is the Australian ambassador, these happenstance meetings with with some of the Trump folks and using that word, that expression very lightly because they were only at the lowest levels.
00:22:33.760And we have had no, almost no public discussion of the roles of those agencies, adjunct to the CIA, to the NSA, to the FBI National Security Division.
00:22:49.460And that's a story that has yet to be developed.
00:22:57.260The fact that there's a former MI6 guy in the middle of this, Christopher Steele, and the fact that he was, the fact that he was his position, his findings were defended by the former head of the MI6, Richard Dearlove.
00:23:24.720The fact that, yes, the Australian ambassador, that this goes to the American embassy through, I mean, rather through the Australian ambassador.
00:23:34.700The whole idea, the whole idea of five eyes that these are our closest intelligence sharing partners, this idea needs to be thoroughly reassessed by the next Republican president, assuming that this is a pro-America Republican president.
00:23:55.480I mean, I want to see Christopher Steele extradited.
00:23:57.960I want to see him on trial here, and I want him wearing an orange jumpsuit, and I want to see him go away for the rest of his life.
00:24:03.940I mean, you know, and it's certainly time right now, Lou, as we see what some of our Anglophone partners are doing around the world, it's time for a pretty thorough reassessment.
00:24:15.320Who are America's allies going forward?
00:24:17.720Now, I think that right now we have, you know, we've got a lot to worry about right here, but I think, I would imagine that most people, most people listening to us right now don't look at the government of Canada and think that Justin Trudeau is a friend of the American people.
00:24:34.500He may be a friend of Joe Biden's in the Biden administration, but this is not something, this is not a government that the American people are wildly fond of.
00:24:43.080Same with the Aussies, same with the Kiwis, I mean, and frankly, same with what the Brits have been up to for the last year and a half.
00:24:53.080So, yeah, this should compel us to reassess our place in the world and who our friends are.
00:24:59.620Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more, Lee.
00:25:01.020When I look to the South and I look to the North, two partners on this hemisphere that we've had great relationships and strained relationships with.
00:25:11.840But right now, with Trudeau standing at that podium in Parliament and saying to a Jewish MP, if you want to basically associate with people who, you know, smear swastikas on buildings, without any sense of what he was saying, without any sense that all he had to do was say, we will have no more mandates.
00:25:38.420The Canadian people do not like these mandates, but he digs in because his friend, Joe Biden, said, dig in and clear the bridge.
00:25:47.820And what we have, in my opinion, in Canada is an emerging Marxist state, and there's no other way to say it for me.
00:25:57.260And in Mexico to the South, what we have is a failing narco state.
00:26:02.460We are in deep, deep trouble in this hemisphere because we have had a foreign policy that ignored Central America, that ignored South America.
00:26:14.800We have more of a presence in Europe on the western border of Russia, or if you prefer, eastern Europe, than we have interest and investment and activity in our own hemisphere.
00:26:36.860I mean, you put it very well, because a lot of the times people say, well, you know, the Biden administration should really be paying attention to what's going on in the southern border in terms of immigration, which is a big deal.
00:26:47.680And of course, that's absolutely correct.
00:26:49.780But these are national security issues, right?
00:26:53.360I mean, both the nature of the people coming over and what they're bringing over, those are national security issues.
00:26:58.940And if it does turn out that Canada is going to be turning into an authoritarian state, that's a national security issue for the United States as well, because that will mean different partnerships with different players around the world.
00:27:13.100Then the obsession right now with Ukraine and Russia or the pretend obsession, whatever it is they're looking at, Vladimir Putin here, we have national security threats right on our borders, very serious ones.
00:27:26.880Let me put it in stark contrast, if I may.
00:27:32.920We have lost more Americans to drug overdoses from fentanyl that has been transported across the southern border with Mexico than the Ukrainians have lost in their civil war with Russia and with the eastern Ukrainian Russian speakers in eight years.
00:27:56.140And suddenly we see Joe Biden, enfeebled as he is, pounding his chest and talking about it when he thought, initially thought that Russia, Putin was really pulling back Russian troops, that he was going to be a tough guy.
00:28:11.600And he wilted within 24 hours and has nothing more to say.
00:28:17.180This is deadly, dangerous stuff because we have put a man of his weakness, his limitations in the White House.
00:28:25.380The Democratic Party, of course, is absolutely to blame and will be held accountable in history.
00:28:34.500But that isn't going to save 300 million Americans who live right now in this country.
00:28:41.420And it's just it is sickening to watch.
00:28:47.120You know, I just look and I just say, well, these people really these people who are running our government, they really do not like our country and they really don't like Americans, do they?
00:28:57.580I mean, and I know that sounds naive and simple, but but but that's what it is.
00:29:03.940You would I mean, wouldn't it be great if we had if there was a president, if there was a government who said it's just heartbreaking what's happening across the country?
00:29:11.400It's just heartbreaking what's happening with fentanyl.
00:29:14.040It's just heartbreaking what's happening with people losing their jobs and despairing.
00:29:19.360We just have to we just have to get America back on track and we just have to spread the you know, we just have to spread the love and and and and take care of our people.
00:29:29.660And, you know, that is what Donald Trump was doing.
00:29:32.080And look at and look at how much they fought him.
00:30:00.920And, you know, talking with Americans every day on this podcast, one of the things that I, you know, I I really struggle with.
00:30:10.460Is I know how much disbelief there is out there, how much confusion there is among the American people about what happened to the FBI.
00:30:22.600It was it was it was the paragon of law enforcement and integrity in law enforcement in our country.
00:30:31.300What happened to the Justice Department and the courts and the chief justice says there are no Trump justices and there are no Obama justices and Reagan justices.
00:30:46.640And it's the entirely as usual opposite of what our most trusted one at one time public officials say, take the opposite and you will have the truth.
00:31:40.700We're talking about the corruption, the FBI, the DOJ, the courts and stuff like that.
00:31:44.420That just means they're moving further and further away from the baseline American attitude, what Americans believe, what communities, the values that communities and families uphold.
00:31:58.980I mean, I think that people really believe this is a meaningful time for precisely the reason you said, because they're ready to fight.
00:32:05.200I'm not talking about going out and causing mayhem or, you know, violence.
00:32:10.660I'm talking about people are standing up for what they believe in and what a blessing to be alive at this meaningful time and participate in this struggle to keep our country the way that we were born into it, the way it was handed to us and the way that we can ensure it's handed on to future generations.
00:32:31.500Really, it's just so amazing that we are alive at this time and we get to wage this battle for our incredible country.
00:33:05.360It's a tweet, so it's not like I'm being highfalutin about this.
00:33:10.520But this is what I said about what we're talking about just a day ago.
00:33:15.520I said, not a single solitary soul in the entire Biden administration gives a damn about our borders, sovereignty, or their responsibility to protect and defend the republic.
00:33:28.700They are unworthy of even our contempt, though they are contemptuous of our great nation.
00:33:34.640And I believe every single word of it, and I hope everyone in this audience can judge it for themselves, and I hope agree with me after reasoning through it.
00:33:48.520That is a well-crafted and well-charged, I don't know, what do they give you now, 140 characters?
00:33:54.700But that is well-memorable and well-wrought.
00:34:34.340I did The Daily Wire, and we go through some of the different industries and institutions right now and individuals that have tied themselves to the Chinese Communist Party.
00:34:52.220And really, the main point of this series is China's a problem.
00:34:56.940We all agree that China's a problem, and China's a strategic threat to the United States.
00:35:00.740But the main problem is our own ruling class that has linked itself to China, right?
00:35:07.560We can't get at the Chinese Communist Party.
00:35:10.120We can't solve those issues with our own establishment standing in the way and protecting them.
00:35:16.220And I'm not just talking about Joe and Hunter Biden or the Biden family and their corrupt relations with Chinese Communist Party officials.
00:39:21.960Do you know what they do to their own people?
00:39:23.540Do you know what they're doing around the world?
00:39:24.840And you want to represent them in this celebration of sports?
00:39:28.640And by the way, the other thing is, two years ago, this is the amazing thing about the Olympics.
00:39:35.680Two years ago, COVID-19 comes out of China.
00:39:40.220Millions around the world are dead now.
00:39:43.180Many millions more have been impoverished.
00:39:45.420This is what China did to the world two years ago.
00:39:48.020And now world leaders go and they send their athletic teams to go celebrate the Chinese.
00:39:53.680I mean, it's a festival of death and poverty and illness.
00:39:58.680I mean, the whole thing is just crazy.
00:40:00.300I mean, but they want to make it about politics.
00:40:02.340Couldn't they have just said, wait a minute, this is what the Chinese gave us.
00:40:05.660You think we're going to turn our back on our own citizens who are still hurting?
00:40:09.320Yeah, five million people dead around the world, the virus that they would not warn the world that they were transmitting to the world is, to me, the moral equivalent of murder.
00:40:25.400And this is the way in which we respond.
00:40:28.160And they, to this day, will not acknowledge the origin of that virus.