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00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America Podcast with Lou Dobbs,

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00:00:48.080 And we know there are far too many within our government who hate our capitalist economy

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00:00:59.320 not just American citizens.

00:01:01.460 Among the haters, the so-called permanent bureaucracy who are committed to the interagency,

00:01:07.980 the world uniparty, the global elites who mean to destroy America for their own preferred system of government,

00:01:15.440 global government, for their own interests, whether environmental terrorists or the Al-Qaeda,

00:01:21.160 ISIS varieties, whether climate change extremists or simply agents of Xi Jinping or Vladimir Putin.

00:01:29.800 We are a great nation that has never before been more beset by more enemies within and foreign powers alike

00:01:38.160 that seek the destruction of our economy, our government, our freedom, our constitutional republic,

00:01:45.520 which is the foundation of our liberty.

00:01:48.540 Our enemies within are many, and they're now in the open.

00:01:53.380 Incredibly, not a one of them has been held to account for their actions,

00:01:57.600 their efforts to destroy a presidential candidate,

00:02:00.880 their efforts to overthrow a sitting president, that is, of course, President Trump.

00:02:05.980 Just over a week ago, Special Counsel John Durham delivered filings to the federal court

00:02:11.760 that contained allegations, at least by inference,

00:02:15.580 that the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2016 orchestrated the construction of the fraudulent claims

00:02:21.520 that Donald Trump had a relationship with the Russians through a Russian bank, Alpha Bank,

00:02:28.060 and that Democratic operatives created a phony report that purported to support

00:02:34.400 the rather obviously fictitious claims about Mr. Trump.

00:02:39.480 Most suspiciously now, the very Dems who tried to overthrow President Trump

00:02:43.940 through three years of investigations by the FBI,

00:02:48.180 a special counsel investigation by the Department of Justice,

00:02:52.320 and two farcical impeachment attempts are absolutely silent.

00:02:57.540 All of them.

00:02:58.760 The national corporate media is ignoring the story altogether.

00:03:02.280 The story is the biggest scandal in American history.

00:03:07.640 You would think they would, these reporters and the corporate national media,

00:03:12.980 be just running as fast as they could to get the story covered.

00:03:18.060 But no.

00:03:19.160 So we are delighted to have with us today one of the country's finest investigative journalists,

00:03:24.520 author of The Plot Against the President, author of The Permanent Coup,

00:03:28.620 How Enemies Foreign and Domestic Targeted the American President,

00:03:32.620 and his newest reporting, the important documentary,

00:03:36.460 China, The Enemy Within, on The Daily Wire, now available.

00:03:43.500 Lee Smith, great to have you with us here on The Great America Show.

00:03:47.400 So I just, I can't wait to ask you this question, and that is your reaction,

00:03:53.120 your thoughts about the John Durham filing and its implications.

00:03:59.000 Yeah.

00:03:59.680 Well, thanks, Lou.

00:04:00.800 Thanks so much for inviting me on today.

00:04:03.260 I mean, like you, you know, I've been following this story for, I guess, five years now.

00:04:07.380 And like you, I've been in touch with the people who were investigating this on the Hill,

00:04:13.940 and everyone is shocked.

00:04:17.060 And I think it's not just because we have confirmation of different things we suspected,

00:04:22.440 but I think it's because this operation appears to be much broader than we knew.

00:04:29.300 I believe we imagined it, but now we see it was much broader than we knew.

00:04:33.620 I mean, and so, you know, this guy, this guy, Rodney Jaffe, the internet executive,

00:04:40.540 the tech executive, he's got a contract here.

00:04:43.660 He's working out of the Obama White House, as his lawyer made clear.

00:04:47.800 So that's one end of it.

00:04:49.300 He's working out of the Obama White House, working on their internet server stuff.

00:04:55.120 And then on the other hand, Clinton campaign lawyer, Michael Sussman, goes and takes us to the CIA.

00:04:59.940 So, again, this is a much broader operation than we knew of before.

00:05:07.980 This person, whose name at various points, had been raised over the course of Russiagate by various parties.

00:05:16.760 But his proximity to the White House, his role, suddenly you ask yourself,

00:05:26.700 what are this guy's bona fides, either to be in the White House or to be with a Democratic president and his Democratic staff,

00:05:36.560 or to be engaged directly with the Democratic Party's, one of their two leading law firms?

00:05:44.100 Yeah. This guy, Rodney Jaffe, it's very important.

00:05:49.900 This guy was an intelligence community insider, right?

00:05:53.240 He didn't work for our spy services.

00:05:56.620 He didn't draw his salary directly from them or his 401k, but he worked very closely with them.

00:06:03.400 We know that in 2013, he was given a prize by then FBI director James Comey for helping break a case.

00:06:11.240 But one of the things that this company that he that he was with, New Star, one of the things they did,

00:06:17.280 they helped process court orders, including Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants.

00:06:24.300 So they were an intermediary between the spy services, mostly the FBI, the national, you know, the NSA and Internet service providers and phone carriers.

00:06:37.200 Because it's a lot of work for the phone carriers to produce all of this material that the FBI or NSA asked for.

00:06:43.700 So New Star would be the intermediary.

00:06:46.260 So that shows you how close they are to the FBI and to the intelligence community.

00:06:51.620 Again, this is what I mean.

00:06:52.440 This is much broader than just the Clinton campaign.

00:06:55.340 It's much broader than just dirty tricks.

00:06:57.520 And that's why I say to people, this is nothing like Watergate, right?

00:07:00.980 I mean, the Watergate was a dirty tricks campaign.

00:07:04.160 There were crimes committed.

00:07:05.380 President Nixon was apparently part of a cover up.

00:07:10.900 But this is this goes to the heart of the intelligence community.

00:07:13.880 So this is very bad.

00:07:15.180 This is a national this is a national security disaster for the United States.

00:07:19.880 And I know that, of course, most Democrats don't regard it as such.

00:07:22.840 They'll see it as, you know, President Donald Trump and all of Trump's people and all of his supporters got what they deserve.

00:07:29.580 But this is and this has enormously bad consequences for the country.

00:07:34.140 And it has seemed so late to me from the very beginning when you when you even raise the specter of the president of the United States being spied upon.

00:07:45.100 And then backfill that with the the attempts then as early as August of 2016 to be preparing to frame the president's about to be named National Security Advisor General Michael Flynn and what had to be going on around that effort.

00:08:07.780 It was deeply troubling from the beginning.

00:08:10.600 But then the fight became for the preservation of the presidency itself, the fight for President Trump, because he was being absolutely assaulted by the Democrats, by Hillary Clinton standing up in a debate and basically saying this guy is a you know, she wanted to clearly imply pretty darn directly that he was an asset of the Russian secret agency.

00:08:40.600 Right. And now we're seeing how this information, how this campaign was assembled, how it was put together through Clinton campaign operatives, through tech executives who are close to the Democratic Party.

00:08:57.920 I know this guy, I know this guy, I know this guy, I know this guy is saying he was a, you know, a non-political tech executive.

00:09:04.380 I mean, the CEO of the company, New Star at the time, came out and endorsed Hillary Clinton.

00:09:09.520 I mean, these are these are clearly people in the Democratic Party's fold.

00:09:13.080 And it also gives us more detail on what the Democratic Party is right now.

00:09:16.460 I mean, it is it is the political instrument, the actual political instrument of what we've come to call over the last several years correctly and accurately, I believe, the deep state.

00:09:27.420 Yes. So you see these different connections and you see how they're hooked into the intelligence community and who the intelligence community is targeting and on whose behalf they're they're they're they're they're targeting.

00:09:36.760 And as you said, there's General Michael Flynn. There's President Donald Trump.

00:09:41.700 And now, as we see with, you know, with January 6th, there are Trump supporters.

00:09:45.980 So this is this is this is how this started. It's very, very important detail.

00:09:53.580 And in terms of the expanse that you're talking about that suddenly revealed here without question, Perkins, Coy, everyone had a sense of what they were.

00:10:04.840 But then this moves out to other law firms and they become more than counselors at law.

00:10:13.900 They become more than they should have something more than Esquire behind their names.

00:10:18.140 These people are involved in the effort to surveil the candidate, a president of the United States, to construct a fiction upon which you can create a predicate for an FBI investigation, for a special counsel, for an impeachment.

00:10:36.980 My Lord, this goes beyond anything that I think anyone could have imagined in, say, 2016.

00:10:43.800 I agree. I don't think no one had any sense at the time.

00:10:49.520 And I don't think that we're just being naive.

00:10:51.680 I think we I think we believe the things that Americans are expected to believe about our law enforcement agencies, about our clandestine service.

00:11:00.460 While there are certainly some rotten apples there, by and large, these people are doing their job.

00:11:04.980 And that's to protect Americans and to protect American national security.

00:11:08.980 And as it turns out, this is not what's going on.

00:11:12.840 It's not what's going on now.

00:11:14.720 And it hasn't been going on certainly since 2016.

00:11:18.020 I mean, we talk about the political crimes and those are very important.

00:11:21.560 But, Lou, one of the things that that I've been talking about for a while and I think is really vital is if we see right now what's going on in in Eastern Europe regarding Russia and Ukraine and the kind of intelligence we're getting on that from our IC.

00:11:38.280 And some of the nonsense that Joe Biden and Jake Sullivan and Anthony Blinken, all of his top, you know, all of his top cabinet aides for foreign policy and national security.

00:11:48.340 I mean, look, for five years, these people have made up stories about Russia and Ukraine.

00:11:53.840 I mean, there are real threats out there in the world that are dangerous to American national interest and that are dangerous to U.S. citizens, dangerous to our neighbors, dangerous to servicemen.

00:12:03.180 And these guys have been making up stories.

00:12:05.140 So they've used the intelligence resources and programs of the IC just to go after their enemies.

00:12:12.780 And because of that, they've not only squandered American prestige, they've endangered Americans.

00:12:17.980 Yes.

00:12:18.180 And they are not achieving any success that I can discern whatsoever in their core mission as intelligence agencies in the United States.

00:12:27.920 I can't think of their last success.

00:12:30.400 Can you, Lee?

00:12:31.480 No.

00:12:32.040 And, of course, this is one of the funny things because you hear from these boys all the time.

00:12:36.780 It's like, well, you know, our failures are always all over the papers, but our successes are very quiet.

00:12:44.080 No one ever hears about those, which is nonsense because we know that any success they have, they will leak to the New York Times or the Washington Post.

00:12:51.140 And some of the times they will even say that they did something when it was another service that did something and they have nothing to do with it.

00:12:59.320 So they take as much credit as they can for doing something, for getting it right.

00:13:05.460 And we see how rare that's been recently.

00:13:08.000 What has the FBI and the CIA been in the news for the last five years targeting Donald Trump, now targeting Donald Trump supporters?

00:13:15.220 Exactly.

00:13:17.120 And there is also an adjunct to this is their their complicit relationship with the national corporate media.

00:13:28.980 The left wing media may be referred to, but there has been absolute silence on this.

00:13:34.680 The Washington Post, the New York Times, CBS News, CNN couldn't wait for each morning to begin their day with all sorts of leaks and feeds from the intelligence agencies, from the from the FBI, from the Democratic left.

00:13:51.800 If there is any other part of the Democratic Party, I think that becomes redundant, doesn't it?

00:13:57.980 It has been amazing that they have been absolutely silent on Durham's filing and what it portends.

00:14:06.820 Well, I mean, we look at what they're, you know, I mean, you know, Lou, I mean, you're you're one of the greats in the field of journalism and you're a veteran in the field.

00:14:19.180 I mean, what what what would you do if you were at one of these places?

00:14:22.220 I mean, I think I'd like to think that most professional journalists would be appalled if they had to show up on CNN or MSNBC and they're sharing airtime with with with a former intelligence officer who lied professionally.

00:14:35.360 And that's what they're supposed to do. Right.

00:14:37.100 The CIA is paid to steal foreign country secrets, not set up our president.

00:14:42.660 They're paid to steal the secrets of foreign countries and they're paid to lie. 0.98

00:14:47.060 And now these people are put on TV, on CNN and on MSNBC, CBS, The Washington Post, New York Times.

00:14:55.440 And we're supposed to take this seriously. This is not journalism.

00:14:58.840 This this is these places are platforms for information operations run by spies.

00:15:04.160 I cannot believe. And this is why I say again and again, this is nothing like partisan media.

00:15:09.000 We you and I know what it looks like to be, you know, to have to process a whole bunch of, you know, liberal talking points or left wing talking points.

00:15:17.940 But this is not partisan. These are this comes from intelligence services.

00:15:23.960 That's what's going on. And it's it's astonishing.

00:15:26.860 And I think that lots of people are starting to understand and thank goodness there are people, you know, people like you that are explaining how the how the world actually works and what the real news is.

00:15:37.320 But a lot of Americans are lost. Well, and and we should be very clear about this.

00:15:44.240 This takes some fairly heavy trudging some days to get through because this is being played out.

00:15:51.240 This information warfare that this information warfare that and this country is now the primary battleground for information warfare, both from internal internal opponents, as well as, of course, the usual external foreign opponents of U.S. interest.

00:16:11.760 But right now, there is more smoke rising over that battlefield and bigger craters in our national institutions and frankly, are what we have always presumed to be our rightful understanding of whose side the government, the U.S. government would be on.

00:16:33.020 Right. It's no longer the case. This government is the at various points, the biggest threat to the American people.

00:16:43.400 Absolutely. Can you can you ever have imagined in the Cold War and the heat of the Cold War, the way that these guys throw around phrases like Russian disinformation now, everything, whether it's Hunter Biden's laptop, whether it's whether it's Canadian truckers who are protesting against vaccine mandates.

00:17:02.960 Everything for these people is Russian disinformation. I can't believe it. It's like we're living in a magical world, you know, where anything they don't want to hear, they plug up their ears with their hands and they just start screaming Russian disinformation.

00:17:17.260 That right now is the American public sphere. And at the top of it is the president of the United States, Joe Biden. It's astonishing.

00:17:25.340 You know, we're going to if it's all right with you. Yeah, let's weave in and out of this issue on Durham and his filings, because it is it's great.

00:17:36.160 It is it's insinuated into lots of things that are happening right now and much is influencing the process that John Durham, the special counsel, has put in motion now.

00:17:49.060 One of the first reactions is for Sussman's attorneys to try to to end his prosecution by saying it was prosecutorial overreach for Durham, the special counsel, to include within his filing a week ago, Friday, a factual context within those papers.

00:18:15.720 Right. Your reaction to that. Well, I mean, my reaction was, is that was that the responsive filing from Sussman's lawyers is they said, like, hey, look, he got this information when he was working for Barack Obama's White House, not for not for Donald Trump's White House, not that executive office of the president.

00:18:36.480 I mean, that that to me is hardly exculpatory. Again, that's what I mean when I say it broadens, it broadens the spectrum that we're looking at here.

00:18:47.540 So this is what this guy was doing when he's working on the these Internet server issues in the Obama White House.

00:18:54.400 I mean, that's just amazing. I mean, again, we had some indication before that Obama officials were unmasking Trump transition team officials, especially especially General Michael Flynn.

00:19:06.060 But to see, again, more detail on this. So that's what they were doing in the Obama White House.

00:19:11.620 And they had people in there who were spying on Donald Trump because of different different levels of access they had to servers in the Obama White House.

00:19:23.040 And some have. Oh, well, no, never mind. No big deal then. No, I think that's even worse.

00:19:27.200 I'm very happy that they provided that information and I'm very happy that they gave more detail on the information.

00:19:33.980 What Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussman then took to the CIA.

00:19:39.440 Sussman is a former DOJ official. Of course, he knows the CIA is not going to investigate that.

00:19:46.000 What was the purpose? Well, we'll wait and get more detail from Mr. Durham.

00:19:49.940 But it appears to me that this is just a replay of what they were doing all this time in the anti-Trump operation, finding different ways to push material in.

00:20:01.300 Right. To to get more evidence, more bogus evidence, of course, with which to investigate Donald Trump.

00:20:08.260 I assume what happened here is Sussman took it to the CIA.

00:20:11.980 This is these two CIA officials. They said, well, we can't do anything with it.

00:20:15.600 We'll hand it over to the boys at the FBI. 0.52

00:20:18.260 And with all the garbage they already had of the FBI on Trump in Russia, I'm sure this was just another file that they had.

00:20:24.580 But remember what happened at what was going on at the time at the CIA.

00:20:29.640 John Brennan had left. But before John Brennan left on Barack Obama's instructions,

00:20:34.480 they produced the intelligence community assessment, an official document delegitimizing the 2016 election.

00:20:45.540 Remember, they said, yes, we assessed with high confidence that Vladimir Putin tried to help Donald Trump win the presidency.

00:20:53.720 I mean, that that was intended to delegitimize Trump's presidency.

00:20:59.620 So, again, I mean, that's that's our CIA right there. That's the intelligence community.

00:21:03.800 And what else happened a couple of months later? Now we know that Eric Charamella is in the White House.

00:21:09.680 A CIA analyst is in. So, again, the more and more parts that we can have filled in here, we see it's not just the FBI.

00:21:18.680 We see it's the CIA and we see more and more of the hand of Barack Obama's White House.

00:21:26.260 I want to introduce one other area here that is orbiting all of this or, if you will, circling the drain on the outer perimeter.

00:21:35.120 And that is the five eyes.

00:21:38.620 The CIA didn't just go to the FBI, it seems to me.

00:21:43.660 And this is purely my conjecture inferring what I do from all that happened in London.

00:21:51.160 And everything that was going on ancillary to this and what became a bit of, I think, the subtext of the story, at least.

00:22:03.200 And that is the Australian ambassador, these happenstance meetings with with some of the Trump folks and using that word, that expression very lightly because they were only at the lowest levels.

00:22:21.800 Right, volunteers, right, campaign volunteers.

00:22:24.080 Suddenly, Italy becomes important. Australia becomes important.

00:22:29.380 The UK becomes, I would say, very important.

00:22:33.240 Yes.

00:22:33.760 And we have had no, almost no public discussion of the roles of those agencies, adjunct to the CIA, to the NSA, to the FBI National Security Division.

00:22:49.460 And that's a story that has yet to be developed.

00:22:54.760 Oh, yeah, I agree entirely.

00:22:57.260 The fact that there's a former MI6 guy in the middle of this, Christopher Steele, and the fact that he was, the fact that he was his position, his findings were defended by the former head of the MI6, Richard Dearlove.

00:23:12.740 Right.

00:23:12.960 So the fact that the Brits had a stake in this, this guy, Stefan Halper, was operating in Cambridge on British ground.

00:23:21.980 The Brits knew what was going on.

00:23:24.120 Right.

00:23:24.720 The fact that, yes, the Australian ambassador, that this goes to the American embassy through, I mean, rather through the Australian ambassador.

00:23:33.580 Oh, I agree.

00:23:34.700 The whole idea, the whole idea of five eyes that these are our closest intelligence sharing partners, this idea needs to be thoroughly reassessed by the next Republican president, assuming that this is a pro-America Republican president.

00:23:55.000 Oh, yeah.

00:23:55.480 I mean, I want to see Christopher Steele extradited.

00:23:57.960 I want to see him on trial here, and I want him wearing an orange jumpsuit, and I want to see him go away for the rest of his life.

00:24:03.940 I mean, you know, and it's certainly time right now, Lou, as we see what some of our Anglophone partners are doing around the world, it's time for a pretty thorough reassessment. 0.64

00:24:15.320 Who are America's allies going forward?

00:24:17.720 Now, I think that right now we have, you know, we've got a lot to worry about right here, but I think, I would imagine that most people, most people listening to us right now don't look at the government of Canada and think that Justin Trudeau is a friend of the American people.

00:24:34.500 He may be a friend of Joe Biden's in the Biden administration, but this is not something, this is not a government that the American people are wildly fond of.

00:24:43.080 Same with the Aussies, same with the Kiwis, I mean, and frankly, same with what the Brits have been up to for the last year and a half.

00:24:51.380 I mean, this is, it's shocking.

00:24:53.080 So, yeah, this should compel us to reassess our place in the world and who our friends are.

00:24:59.620 Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more, Lee.

00:25:01.020 When I look to the South and I look to the North, two partners on this hemisphere that we've had great relationships and strained relationships with.

00:25:11.840 But right now, with Trudeau standing at that podium in Parliament and saying to a Jewish MP, if you want to basically associate with people who, you know, smear swastikas on buildings, without any sense of what he was saying, without any sense that all he had to do was say, we will have no more mandates.

00:25:38.420 The Canadian people do not like these mandates, but he digs in because his friend, Joe Biden, said, dig in and clear the bridge.

00:25:47.820 And what we have, in my opinion, in Canada is an emerging Marxist state, and there's no other way to say it for me.

00:25:57.260 And in Mexico to the South, what we have is a failing narco state. 1.00

00:26:02.460 We are in deep, deep trouble in this hemisphere because we have had a foreign policy that ignored Central America, that ignored South America.

00:26:14.800 We have more of a presence in Europe on the western border of Russia, or if you prefer, eastern Europe, than we have interest and investment and activity in our own hemisphere.

00:26:33.820 It's stunning stuff.

00:26:35.400 I agree.

00:26:36.860 I mean, you put it very well, because a lot of the times people say, well, you know, the Biden administration should really be paying attention to what's going on in the southern border in terms of immigration, which is a big deal.

00:26:47.680 And of course, that's absolutely correct.

00:26:49.780 But these are national security issues, right?

00:26:53.360 I mean, both the nature of the people coming over and what they're bringing over, those are national security issues.

00:26:58.940 And if it does turn out that Canada is going to be turning into an authoritarian state, that's a national security issue for the United States as well, because that will mean different partnerships with different players around the world.

00:27:11.800 So, yeah, I mean, right.

00:27:13.100 Then the obsession right now with Ukraine and Russia or the pretend obsession, whatever it is they're looking at, Vladimir Putin here, we have national security threats right on our borders, very serious ones.

00:27:26.880 Let me put it in stark contrast, if I may.

00:27:32.920 We have lost more Americans to drug overdoses from fentanyl that has been transported across the southern border with Mexico than the Ukrainians have lost in their civil war with Russia and with the eastern Ukrainian Russian speakers in eight years.

00:27:56.140 And suddenly we see Joe Biden, enfeebled as he is, pounding his chest and talking about it when he thought, initially thought that Russia, Putin was really pulling back Russian troops, that he was going to be a tough guy.

00:28:11.600 And he wilted within 24 hours and has nothing more to say.

00:28:17.180 This is deadly, dangerous stuff because we have put a man of his weakness, his limitations in the White House.

00:28:25.380 The Democratic Party, of course, is absolutely to blame and will be held accountable in history.

00:28:34.500 But that isn't going to save 300 million Americans who live right now in this country.

00:28:41.420 And it's just it is sickening to watch.

00:28:45.100 I think about it.

00:28:45.660 I think about this all the time, Lou.

00:28:47.120 You know, I just look and I just say, well, these people really these people who are running our government, they really do not like our country and they really don't like Americans, do they?

00:28:57.580 I mean, and I know that sounds naive and simple, but but but that's what it is.

00:29:01.440 It's just that simple.

00:29:02.560 They really don't like us.

00:29:03.940 You would I mean, wouldn't it be great if we had if there was a president, if there was a government who said it's just heartbreaking what's happening across the country?

00:29:11.400 It's just heartbreaking what's happening with fentanyl.

00:29:14.040 It's just heartbreaking what's happening with people losing their jobs and despairing.

00:29:18.280 And you know what?

00:29:19.360 We just have to we just have to get America back on track and we just have to spread the you know, we just have to spread the love and and and and take care of our people.

00:29:29.660 And, you know, that is what Donald Trump was doing.

00:29:32.080 And look at and look at how much they fought him.

00:29:35.040 That was his message.

00:29:36.580 That was his message.

00:29:37.900 We have to take care of Americans. 0.66

00:29:39.580 And what did they do? 0.95

00:29:40.460 They wanted to kill him. 0.99

00:29:41.580 They wanted to destroy him. 1.00

00:29:43.280 Amazing.

00:29:44.160 That's what you get for saying, I want to stick up for Americans.

00:29:46.980 They'll they'll they'll destroy you. 0.96

00:29:48.880 They'll tear you to pieces. 0.97

00:29:50.600 They'll they'll send the FBI after you.

00:29:52.840 If you're a president and you want to take care of Americans, they'll send America's top law enforcement agency after you.

00:29:59.100 What terrible people.

00:30:00.760 Yeah.

00:30:00.920 And, you know, talking with Americans every day on this podcast, one of the things that I, you know, I I really struggle with.

00:30:10.460 Is I know how much disbelief there is out there, how much confusion there is among the American people about what happened to the FBI.

00:30:22.600 It was it was it was the paragon of law enforcement and integrity in law enforcement in our country.

00:30:31.300 What happened to the Justice Department and the courts and the chief justice says there are no Trump justices and there are no Obama justices and Reagan justices.

00:30:43.380 Well, that's exactly what they are.

00:30:45.380 You were right.

00:30:46.640 And it's the entirely as usual opposite of what our most trusted one at one time public officials say, take the opposite and you will have the truth.

00:30:57.660 That's where we are.

00:30:58.900 And it's it's so disappointing.

00:31:01.540 And we have to I truly believe this.

00:31:04.380 And I say it almost every day here.

00:31:06.000 We're going to have to fight for these rights because there are no such things, in my opinion, as human rights.

00:31:14.680 There are only in this country American rights and people died for them. 0.96

00:31:19.100 Right.

00:31:19.660 And people will have to understand more sacrifices await us if we are to preserve those rights.

00:31:26.220 But they're not human rights.

00:31:28.360 These are American rights.

00:31:29.640 They're American rights.

00:31:30.640 And that's why, you know, I think I've mentioned this before when we've spoken.

00:31:34.240 But I mean, just going around and just speaking to people, I mean, I really do think that people feel blessed.

00:31:40.220 I mean, right.

00:31:40.700 We're talking about the corruption, the FBI, the DOJ, the courts and stuff like that.

00:31:44.420 That just means they're moving further and further away from the baseline American attitude, what Americans believe, what communities, the values that communities and families uphold.

00:31:58.980 I mean, I think that people really believe this is a meaningful time for precisely the reason you said, because they're ready to fight.

00:32:05.200 I'm not talking about going out and causing mayhem or, you know, violence.

00:32:10.660 I'm talking about people are standing up for what they believe in and what a blessing to be alive at this meaningful time and participate in this struggle to keep our country the way that we were born into it, the way it was handed to us and the way that we can ensure it's handed on to future generations.

00:32:31.500 Really, it's just so amazing that we are alive at this time and we get to wage this battle for our incredible country.

00:32:42.480 Well said.

00:32:43.720 And it is a battle that looms both large, it looms even more intense in the days ahead, and it is existential.

00:32:56.900 I really believe it.

00:32:57.620 May I do something that I hate when people do it?

00:33:01.220 Let me quote myself.

00:33:02.820 Yeah, it's great.

00:33:05.360 It's a tweet, so it's not like I'm being highfalutin about this.

00:33:10.520 But this is what I said about what we're talking about just a day ago.

00:33:15.520 I said, not a single solitary soul in the entire Biden administration gives a damn about our borders, sovereignty, or their responsibility to protect and defend the republic.

00:33:28.700 They are unworthy of even our contempt, though they are contemptuous of our great nation.

00:33:34.640 And I believe every single word of it, and I hope everyone in this audience can judge it for themselves, and I hope agree with me after reasoning through it.

00:33:48.520 That is a well-crafted and well-charged, I don't know, what do they give you now, 140 characters?

00:33:54.700 But that is well-memorable and well-wrought.

00:34:01.420 Well, thank you, sir.

00:34:02.120 Yeah, I absolutely agree.

00:34:04.380 And I don't know the number of characters either.

00:34:06.840 Yeah, I've forgotten.

00:34:07.780 It goes back and forth.

00:34:09.340 I do know it's a little bit like this podcast.

00:34:11.380 Sometimes I bump up against time constraints and limits, even when I don't think they exist.

00:34:18.080 Let's turn to this new project of yours on China, the threat from within, and bring us up to date on that. 0.68

00:34:31.680 Yeah, it's very exciting.

00:34:32.820 It's a five-part series.

00:34:34.340 I did The Daily Wire, and we go through some of the different industries and institutions right now and individuals that have tied themselves to the Chinese Communist Party.

00:34:52.220 And really, the main point of this series is China's a problem. 0.98

00:34:56.940 We all agree that China's a problem, and China's a strategic threat to the United States. 1.00

00:35:00.740 But the main problem is our own ruling class that has linked itself to China, right?

00:35:07.560 We can't get at the Chinese Communist Party.

00:35:10.120 We can't solve those issues with our own establishment standing in the way and protecting them.

00:35:16.220 And I'm not just talking about Joe and Hunter Biden or the Biden family and their corrupt relations with Chinese Communist Party officials.

00:35:24.900 It's structural, right?

00:35:26.460 If we look, for instance, at the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party is structurally the pro-China faction, right?

00:35:34.980 If you look at where their money comes from, their donors, comes from big tech, comes from Wall Street, and comes from Hollywood.

00:35:40.680 These are industries that are 100% networked into Chinese Communist Party elites.

00:35:47.580 So that's the big point I'm making.

00:35:50.340 It's like, definitely, China's a problem. 1.00

00:35:52.960 Our immediate problem is our people who see China as their center of gravity, they're making war on us. 1.00

00:36:01.180 Our ruling class is making war on us in partnership with the Chinese Communist Party. 0.94

00:36:07.100 So we have to settle what's going on before we can worry more about what's happening in Beijing.

00:36:15.180 Yeah, I can't wait to see it.

00:36:18.780 And when is it out?

00:36:22.320 It'll be Friday, February 18th.

00:36:25.960 They did wonderful.

00:36:27.540 I mean, I've seen the trailer.

00:36:29.680 The production values are super.

00:36:31.660 I hope that my performance lives up to their excellent production values.

00:36:36.800 They did such a great job.

00:36:38.880 And, you know, I'm speaking there and making the case.

00:36:42.260 I think the case is very strong.

00:36:44.240 But, you know, I'm not a movie star.

00:36:47.720 So the production values carry it.

00:36:51.280 It's really good.

00:36:52.320 It's really terrific.

00:36:53.200 I had a really fun time working on that with them.

00:36:56.520 Well, you're a lot more than a movie star.

00:37:00.120 You're a great American.

00:37:01.660 And a star.

00:37:02.300 Thank you, Luke.

00:37:02.920 Great American.

00:37:03.420 That's very kind.

00:37:04.440 Thank you.

00:37:05.080 And we really do appreciate you being with us.

00:37:07.820 I just want to just, as you were talking, I thought maybe everybody should know that the

00:37:14.500 Associated Press has decided that we're being too rough on genocide Barbie, judging her too

00:37:21.260 harshly.

00:37:22.860 She's decided to ditch America's and her citizenship for Chinese.

00:37:29.180 Can you imagine people doing that?

00:37:30.960 Can you imagine that? 0.99

00:37:32.280 I mean, it's just ridiculous. 0.78

00:37:34.160 I mean, you can see someone. 0.56

00:37:35.920 I mean, we have here.

00:37:37.180 I know I played baseball in college.

00:37:38.940 And I played baseball with a bunch of guys who, you know, let's say they have an Italian

00:37:43.620 background, right?

00:37:44.720 And they wanted to play in the Olympics.

00:37:46.240 They would go and join the Italian team.

00:37:48.360 For a couple of years ago, you know, the Israeli team, of course, did very well.

00:37:52.080 She had a bunch of Jewish boys from New York.

00:37:54.420 And they say, yeah, I'm going to play with the Israeli team.

00:37:56.720 I'll get to go to the Olympics.

00:37:57.900 I mean, that's all fine.

00:37:58.980 That makes sense.

00:37:59.620 But can you imagine, like, say, oh, no, I'm going to represent the Chinese Communist Party.

00:38:04.120 I'm born in America.

00:38:05.580 And everything I have comes from America.

00:38:07.320 But I'm going to go and I'm going to the Olympics and represent the Chinese Communist 0.99

00:38:10.680 Party.

00:38:11.080 I mean, how nuts.

00:38:14.200 Yeah.

00:38:14.360 I hope I don't upset the Associated Press any, but I don't think we've been too rough on

00:38:19.220 her, nor do I think we've been too rough on her parents.

00:38:24.060 Or do I think we're being too rough on poor little communist China?

00:38:28.940 I think that the people we need to be rough on are the American companies that disregarded

00:38:34.380 the fact that this is a person who absolutely turned her back on the United States, embraced

00:38:40.980 the Communist Party of China, and they're putting $40 million in her pocket through endorsements

00:38:47.180 when we've got, you know, a lot of people who've worked very hard who are American citizens

00:38:52.780 who I think could use the money a lot better.

00:38:56.160 By the way, China doesn't have to borrow its money.

00:39:00.520 Yeah.

00:39:00.640 But America has to right now, and we have to borrow some of it from China.

00:39:04.800 I mean, the madness of this.

00:39:06.860 But didn't someone tell that kid, I mean, isn't that what's supposed to happen in American

00:39:11.100 families or a coach or a teacher?

00:39:13.840 Shouldn't someone have said, hey, come on, you're really going to represent the Chinese

00:39:18.440 Communist Party?

00:39:19.100 Do you know what those guys are doing?

00:39:20.440 Do you know what they're up to?

00:39:21.960 Do you know what they do to their own people?

00:39:23.540 Do you know what they're doing around the world?

00:39:24.840 And you want to represent them in this celebration of sports?

00:39:28.640 And by the way, the other thing is, two years ago, this is the amazing thing about the Olympics.

00:39:35.680 Two years ago, COVID-19 comes out of China.

00:39:40.220 Millions around the world are dead now.

00:39:43.180 Many millions more have been impoverished.

00:39:45.420 This is what China did to the world two years ago. 0.99

00:39:48.020 And now world leaders go and they send their athletic teams to go celebrate the Chinese.

00:39:53.680 I mean, it's a festival of death and poverty and illness.

00:39:58.680 I mean, the whole thing is just crazy.

00:40:00.300 I mean, but they want to make it about politics.

00:40:02.340 Couldn't they have just said, wait a minute, this is what the Chinese gave us.

00:40:05.660 You think we're going to turn our back on our own citizens who are still hurting?

00:40:09.320 Yeah, five million people dead around the world, the virus that they would not warn the world that they were transmitting to the world is, to me, the moral equivalent of murder.

00:40:25.400 And this is the way in which we respond.

00:40:28.160 And they, to this day, will not acknowledge the origin of that virus. 0.71

00:40:32.940 It's disgusting.

00:40:34.200 And by the way, just a perfect counterpoint to giving the young lady $40 million. 1.00

00:40:39.180 Thank you very much, all of the corporate sponsors from America.

00:40:44.060 China calls Ennis Cantor Freedom, the NBA basketball star, a virus.

00:40:51.400 A virus.

00:40:53.180 That's the counterpoint.

00:40:54.940 And that does just highlight a little of the difference in the athletic world for both countries.

00:41:00.080 Nice language they use, right?

00:41:01.660 They call human beings viruses.

00:41:03.780 They loosen a virus on the world that kills millions of people.

00:41:08.080 And their form of insult is to call a human being a virus.

00:41:13.100 And again, right, that's who our elite is tied into.

00:41:16.300 Those are their global partners.

00:41:19.400 Well, the World Health Organization and the International Olympic Committee, I see lots of similarities between those two organizations.

00:41:29.740 Lee, thanks so much for being with us.

00:41:31.360 I'm going to give you, as we always do here, the last word.

00:41:35.420 You get the concluding words from the podcast today.

00:41:40.460 And again, thank you for being with us.

00:41:42.800 I just want to say thank you.

00:41:43.820 Thank you for inviting me on.

00:41:44.980 It was always a huge thrill and a pleasure.

00:41:47.360 And we always cover a lot of ground.

00:41:49.120 So it's a huge thrill, Lou.

00:41:50.220 Thank you so much.

00:41:51.580 And God bless.

00:41:52.300 And God bless your awesome listening audience, too.

00:41:55.780 And please have me on again soon.

00:41:57.720 It's so much fun.

00:41:58.860 You got a deal.

00:41:59.740 Guaranteed.

00:42:00.840 Lee Smith, thanks so much.

00:42:02.380 Appreciate it.

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