AMERICANS LOSING CONFIDENCE IN COLLEGE EDUCATION
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Americans are becoming increasingly discouraged with sending their kids to college, whether it be higher education or grade school, and people are moving more towards homeschooling their children. A new poll out today finds that only 36% of Americans have confidence in higher education in America.
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Hello, everybody. Welcome to The Great America Show.
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Well, Americans are becoming increasingly discouraged with sending their kids to college and schools around America,
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whether it be higher education or grade school, and people are moving more towards homeschooling their children.
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A new poll out today finds that only 36% of Americans have confidence in higher education in America.
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To take all this up, I want to bring in Professor Nick Giordano, professor of political science and host of the PAS Report.
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So what do you make of this? 36% of Americans have confidence in higher educations.
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It's down 21 points from 2015. What do you make of that?
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Well, it doesn't shock me at all. At Campus Reform, we've actually been reporting on this story because it's a big deal.
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When you have the majority of Americans losing faith in their higher education institutions,
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something is fundamentally broken within the system.
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And when it comes to colleges, there are a number of reasons that we're witnessing this.
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First is that students are paying an enormous amount of tuition.
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They're graduating with this huge student debt burden, and then they go to get a job, but they can't find the job
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because many of them got a useless degree or just businesses aren't hiring those with college degrees anymore.
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There have been a number of businesses, both large corporations like Google, IBM, and Tesla,
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as well as small businesses that have done away with four-year degree requirements
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because they don't like the caliber of students that these colleges are graduating.
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Only 37% of college graduates understand critical thinking, have the ability to solve problems.
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They have difficulty interacting with coworkers, and so we've seen businesses move away.
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When you look at the parents and the students themselves, they don't want to be caught in the student debt bubble,
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and they don't want to be indoctrinated, right?
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We see the left-wing indoctrination taking place on college campuses,
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the diversity, equity, inclusion initiatives, and degree requirements that have been pushed into the system,
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So students are now withdrawing from the system because they don't want the far-left ideology being pushed on them.
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And then it comes down to you have a lot of students that are looking at the trades.
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You know, coronavirus and the lockdown, students did not want to go remotely to college,
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It will only take me three months to maybe two years.
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And once I get my trade certificate, I'll be making a very good living.
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I'll have a better quality of life without the debt burden.
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It's a reckoning within the higher education that we're witnessing.
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And the anti-Semitic, anti-American mobs that we've seen over the last several months on college campuses
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You know, a big thing that Lou pushes here on this program is he encourages parents to send their kids,
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if they don't know what they want to do right away or, you know, they're confused or whatever,
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he encourages them to send them to community college.
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Have you seen any sort of change in enrollment or anything like that over the last five or so years
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that we've seen, you know, DEI pushed across college campuses?
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You've seen these pro-Palestinian, you know, massive, we'll call them rallies, on their college campuses.
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You know, have you seen any sort of enrollment change in your school or, you know,
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anything that's changed since we've seen, you know, this uproar along, you know,
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these higher education and Ivy League schools around America?
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Well, all colleges, many of them throughout the country, including community colleges,
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And a large part of it is due simply because America is an aging society.
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Then after COVID, we saw a significant decline during the COVID years
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because nobody wants to spend money to learn through Zoom.
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And every school faces some type of enrollment declines, particularly amongst males,
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And when it comes to community colleges, you don't see the ideological intolerance
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that you see on the four-year university campuses.
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The makeup of the community college is completely different.
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The student body, you have students that can't afford to go to four-year schools.
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You have students that may have children and they're taking care of their family.
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You have students that work full-time or are trying to get their grades up
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so maybe that they can get a scholarship and transfer.
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So they take their studies much more seriously.
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And that's why they don't bring ideology into it.
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They're too busy dealing with the real world, where many of the university campuses,
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you have that groupthink mentality because they all come from that middle to upper middle class
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And they end up getting this elitist attitude towards all the issues.
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So at Campus Forum, we've explained how community colleges are a viable alternative
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And you save yourself about 90% of the tuition dollars.
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There are still companies that, while they may have dropped the four-year degree requirements,
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they're still requiring 60 credits of a college education.
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We also see that a lot with civil service positions at the state and local level.
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So you're still going to need some type of college.
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And why should you spend tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars when you
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could only have to spend several grand a semester, you know, $2,500 to $3,000 per semester?
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Just you mentioned the upper echelons of these people who are pushing this DEI and all this
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She's the president of the National Education Association.
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Speaking at a keynote speech, I want to play for the audience and get your reaction to this
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on just how unhinged these people are who are running the show, who are calling the shots.
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During every moment of change or perceived chaos, we will remember who we are.
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We are the ones who helped to shape the heart of this nation's hopes and dreams.
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We are the ones who hold steadfast to the belief of the plausibility of the possible.
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We are the heirs of all who did this work before us.
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We will do this work because our students are depending on us to win all the things.
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NEA, we have to win all the things, all the things, all the things.
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Our colleagues are depending on us to win all the things.
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To preserve our democracy, we must win all the things.
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We will keep going forward because we are the NEA.
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That's Becky Pringle, the president of the NEA, if you missed that, in a keynote speech
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These people, these are the people that are making education policy.
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They have an enormous amount of influence over education policy.
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And I find it truly remarkable because when we look at the evidence, they've done more to
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I mean, you look at the Randy Weingartens, another teachers union president, they were
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directly responsible for keeping schools closed in the most vulnerable communities for two
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We now see the lowest proficiency levels in our history.
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And I find it amazing that when she starts screaming about saving democracy, I just wrote
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a piece for Campus Reform and the Washington Examiner where students don't understand the
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They don't understand our Constitution, how our government works, why it was created in
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We're talking with Professor Nick Giordano and host of the PAS Report.
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So right before we went to break, Nick, I mean, we heard that piece from Becky Pringle.
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And it's just astonishing that these are the people that are running our education system.
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And you'd mentioned your piece in the Washington Examiner this week, bringing civics back to the
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Tell us a little bit about it and why it's so important for our future of our education system
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Well, I give my students a citizenship exam every single semester, the first day.
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And the fact is only six percent of my students could pass that.
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And it's a very basic exam as simple questions.
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When you look at the broader statistics, only 25 percent of Americans can name the five freedoms
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Most Americans have no idea what their rights are within our society, nor do they know what
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If we look at how radicalized people have become, how ideological, it's because civics
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Activism doesn't mean that you're teaching about the United States government.
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Activism means that you're pushing a political agenda.
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And that's the fraud that's taking place amongst the student body.
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Only 13 percent of students today are proficient in American history.
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Only 22 percent are proficient in civics, American government.
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And we need to change that because if we want to have a vibrant republic, well, students need
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to know what their roles and responsibilities are within the system, because it's not just
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about what our government exists and what it's meant for.
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It's also meant to tell us what's our role in the system.
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What are our obligations to work hard, to take care of our families, not to seek government
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for assistance, but to solve problems ourselves through the communities, as opposed to laying
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everything on the foundation of the federal government.
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And I think that that's something that's missing.
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And it's because people don't know the proper role of government.
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Are we past the point, in your opinion, of no return?
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How do we come back from, you know, like I said earlier, the teaching of, you know, sexuality
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in the classroom to minors who don't really know anything at this point in their life?
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Do we ever come back from from the DEI and and all this racial garbage that these people
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Well, if we want to survive as a nation, we better come back from it.
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That that's the truth, because what DEI has done, it's tribalized society.
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It's broken members down into groups and then pitted these groups against each other of
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And they are the ones that will determine what are the privileged classes, you know, the
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white Europeans, certain Asians who will be excluded from schools because they perform
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Jewish students now have privilege versus those that are oppressed.
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And then when these groups pit against each other, there has never been a successful tribal
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The way we take it back is for conservatives not to disengage and remove individuals from
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the school, but to get more active within the school system.
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That means not only taking over school boards, but it also means that that conservatives go into
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They get jobs at the state departments of education.
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We have to have an America centric curriculum, one where students gain appreciation for the
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United States of America, not chant death to America, as we've been hearing.
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I mean, the king, I think the kingpin and leader of all this is obviously Joe Biden and the
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I do think it's the politicians, the political elites that have controlled the system of education
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I think that there are so many factors at play here that have gotten us to the situation.
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And listen, I'm a parent and parents are partly responsible as well because they disengage from
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If you used to have about five people show up to a school board meeting, that would be
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Now, parents are starting to re-engage in the system.
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You're seeing groups like Moms for Liberty.
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You see organizations like Campus Reform trying to take education back.
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But we all have a role to play within the system because when our education system fails, the
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decline in our education system, notice how it directly correlates with the decline of
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our nation as a whole and our nation getting weaker as a whole.
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I mean, how do we get rid of the Randy Weingartners of the world?
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What can parents at home who are listening to you and watching you right now, what can they
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You know, we see parents go to, you could say, school board meetings, right?
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But look what's happened to these people who go to school board meetings.
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They get targeted by the Biden DOJ, the Biden regime DOJ.
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And these people now are all of a sudden labeled domestic terrorists.
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I mean, it's the same thing we saw with January 6th.
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How do we get rid of these tyrants who are ruining our children and ruining society?
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Well, I think when it comes to the parent perspective, it's pretty simple.
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Just follow the Governor Glenn Youngkin roadmap, right?
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I mean, you had Terry McAuliffe state that parents don't have a say in education.
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Well, parents made sure that their voice was heard in that election.
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And so parents have to do their civic responsibility and go to the school board meetings, complain
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when they don't like what's being taught to the students, stand up for their children,
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protect their children and speak out and also speak to the politicians, the elected officials
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The teachers are the ones that actually vote for the union presidents.
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Now, I speak to teachers from all over the country that will reach out to me, and they
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are very dissatisfied with the union leadership.
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They need to start attending the meetings and they need to vote out the delegates, the
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representatives, the union reps that are pushing a far left ideology.
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We got to get back the unions to where they used to be, where it was about wages, salaries
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and benefits, as opposed to corrupting children with a far left political agenda.
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When we return, we're going to talk to Nick about what illegal immigration is doing, what
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all these illegals pouring into our country are doing to the education system and what it
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And before we went to break there, we were talking about the effects of illegal immigration
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You know, some estimates put it at near 20 million illegals are in this country right
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Nick, what is it doing to the schooling system?
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What is it doing for these children, these American citizens who are going to public schools
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and the parents who are sending their children to public schools to get an education and
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What is your estimated numbers on how many of these kids are infiltrating our system across
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Well, it's done enormous harm to the, first of all, our education system, as we've explained,
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And then you have the open border crisis and President Biden has allowed millions of unaccompanied
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minors and family units to come to the United States.
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If there are children in our country, we do provide an education because we don't want
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So take him in my area, New York City, 30,000 new students enrolled in just one academic
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And these were students that came illegally across the border.
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You cannot introduce 30,000 new students in a year and expect that it's not going to
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So the quality of education has declined dramatically.
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You have a lot of non-English speaking people in the classrooms now, and there's a lot of problems.
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In New York City, it costs $38,000 per year to educate a student.
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So looking at 30,000 students, that's over a billion dollars a year in American taxpayer
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We're seeing the same thing in city after city.
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In Denver, over 300 students from unaccompanied minors from other countries enrolling in a
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This is overburdening in a ready-failed system.
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And the reality is that a nation exists to take care of the citizens of that country first
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And the education system has been derelict in its duty, and it can't do it until the
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And there's nobody to blame other than President Joe Biden.
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He's having a rough week, rough two weeks after that debate with President Trump, where, you
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know, he got a real eye-opener to where he stands, and he's got his own Democratic Party
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I want to play for the audience a clip of President Biden this week on Morning Joe.
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The interview was early in the morning, so he was awake, I guess, for his four or five
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hours a day that he's cognitive, allegedly cognitive.
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But I want to play for the audience and get your reaction to it.
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This is Joe Biden responding to the elites calling for him to drop out of the presidential
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The American public is not going to move away from me as an average voter.
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One, to rebuild the economy for hard-working middle-class people.
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We'll give everybody a shot, just a straight shot.
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Number two, remember all of us talking about how I don't have the black support?
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Now, I'm not talking about you guys, but about the elites in the party who they know
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But if any of these guys don't think I should let them run against me, announce the president.
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Well, first of all, I mean, I think, I don't know if Joe Biden realized, but the primary
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He mentions fair chance for the American people.
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I'll tell you who hasn't gotten a fair chance over these last three and a half years, and
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that is the American people, the African American, the Hispanic American, the Caucasian
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Every single person, every walk of life in this country right now has been hurt by this
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man, whether it be inflation, whether it be illegal immigration.
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You know, everyone is being killed by this man.
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Well, speaking as a political scientist, I don't think that calling into news programs
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without video is really helping his case, right?
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A lot of people are questioning the president's cognitive abilities, and so this isn't really
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But more importantly, I think what we're witnessing is a civil war in the Democrat Party.
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There are those that believe that the current president of the United States is incapable
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of running for office, and therefore he should announce that he's not going to run and pass
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There are others who believe that the Democrat primary voters came out and voted and that
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President Biden should remain at the top of the ticket.
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What this is all leading to is it's reminiscent of 1980 when you had the contested convention
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in the Democrat Party, where Ted Kennedy was not satisfied with the leadership of Jimmy
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Where this all ends, I think it's really hard to predict.
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You know, there are some that say that only Biden could decide to leave the race.
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But if you know the history of the United States, you know that the party bosses have an enormous
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amount of influence, and so do Democrat donors, the people with the money.
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And it's interesting, from the party that constantly screams about threats to democracy, well, many
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of these people are saying that the president must stand down in re-election and they should
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select the candidate of who's going to represent the Democrat Party.
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So it's a mess for Democrats all across the board, and I don't think that they really know
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which direction they want to take at this point.
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You know, you said threat to democracy about two weeks ago after the debate.
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He says that in order to save democracy, we have to get rid of Biden.
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But you didn't hear him saying anything to Joe Biden there.
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But speaking of Joe Biden staying in the race, we learned this weekend that a Parkinson's disease
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expert visited the White House eight times in eight months.
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You heard the Democrats when President Trump was in there talking about the 25th Amendment,
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They wanted to get rid of Trump because they couldn't impeach him.
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I should say they couldn't remove him from office after impeaching him two times.
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But you have a Parkinson's disease expert visiting the White House eight times and then reportedly
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one time for about seven hours until midnight with White House doctor Kevin O'Connor.
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I mean, I don't know how we're not hearing it from the mainstream media, even from the Republicans.
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I mean, they're you know, they're doing their same old song and a dance.
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But I mean, if this was President Trump, there would be outrage.
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He'd probably be impeached the next day, you know, or removed under the 25th Amendment.
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The double standard here and fighting within the party is just absurd.
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They were talking about passing a resolution about the 25th Amendment, but the 25th Amendment
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is an executive function and you can't impeach a president simply because cognitively they
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have declined and are incapable of doing the job.
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I find it interesting that people are saying that President Biden isn't fit to run a campaign
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and yet they're not stating, well, then is he fit to run the United States of America?
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And I think that this deserves an investigation because let's face it, this may be the largest
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conspiracy in the history of the United States, the biggest scandal that the United States
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has ever witnessed, that they tried to shield the cognitive decline of a president
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What on the elected bureaucrats were making decisions?
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And so it raises so many questions from the party that constantly speaks about threats to
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Well, where is our say in this and how does it help our republic when you have bureaucrats,
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the media and the Democrat Party trying to shield the condition of a president from the
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And I think that there are going to be there are serious questions ready.
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I think the media should be ashamed of themselves because they are culpable in this.
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They knew everything that was going on, yet they continued to push the narrative that everything
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And we all saw it on television ourselves whenever he spoke.
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And the real thing that bothers me the most is it puts us all at risk.
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And it's the American people that will bear the brunt of this conspiracy that took place.
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You said threat to democracy, you know, coming out this week, the House Republicans, Chip
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Roy and 104 co-sponsors introducing HR 8281, the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility
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App, also known as the Save Act, which would make it illegal and try to prevent these illegals
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President Biden putting a letter out, which he probably didn't write from the White House,
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saying, quote, this bill would do nothing to safeguard our elections, but it would make
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it much harder for eligible Americans to register and vote and increase the risk of
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eligible voters being purged from the voter rolls.
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It's just funny to see, as we're now just a few months from the election, the Biden
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administration doing all they could to save to save the administration.
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That's really in trouble, even if it means having dead people vote and illegals vote.
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When we look at our election system, you know, Britain just had an election and they were able
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to figure out who won the election on the day of the election.
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And again, you were able to figure out who won on the day of elections.
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The United States, our election system has become a mess, and it's because of electronic
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It's because there are too many people behind the scenes that are trying to destabilize
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This is something where the most important privilege a citizen of a country has is to determine
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who their elected officials are in the ballots, on the ballot box.
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And that's the most important function as a citizen.
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But what they're saying is, well, the citizens' rights don't matter because we don't really
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The idea that Americans don't have identification cards.
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I mean, nearly if you want to do anything in this country over the age of 18, if you want
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to go into a liquor store, if you want to buy Sudafed over the counter, if you want to take
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a flight somewhere, if you want to enter any government building, if you need access to
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any government benefit, you need a government ID.
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The idea that people cannot get identification cards is completely ridiculous because everyone
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It would be it's speculation, but it shows that people don't really care about our voting
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system and making our voting system safe and secure, because if they did, there are very
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simple things that we could do that don't cost taxpayers a dime and would make the voting
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process a lot simpler and a lot more efficient.
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Everyone would be able to respect the results when they came out.
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I think Americans know why the Democrats aren't in favor of this.
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There's only one group of people in this country, we could say, who are in favor of insecure
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elections, and there's only one reason for it, and that's to cheat.
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Nick Giordano, Professor Nick Giordano, host of the PAS Report.
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