The Great America Show - Americans WANT THE SWAMP DRAINED, Is Trump doing it？

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00:00:24.280 So much going on in the news of late, so much going on in the world of late.

00:00:28.500 Earlier this morning, I sat down with a good friend of mine, Nicholas Giordano.

00:00:32.980 Folks may see him on Fox News or Campus Reform or various other platforms across this sphere.

00:00:39.660 Professor Nicholas Giordano, host of the PAS Report, a brilliant legal mind, a brilliant professor.

00:00:46.960 So I sat down with him this morning to talk about all the issues pressing this country right now,

00:00:52.580 all the Marxist dem derangement issues that we're taking on as a country.

00:00:57.480 And I thought it was too good of an interview from his perspective to not bring it to you guys.

00:01:03.440 So I want to run that for you to take a listen to our conversation, because I think you're going to enjoy it just as much as I did.

00:01:10.360 Here it is. Well, the first thing I want to start with now, it's not like the biggest story in the world.

00:01:15.440 It's not the biggest problem that we're facing in the world, but it just shows you that there's so many people out there that are completely warped.

00:01:23.200 So President Trump rebuilds the reflectant pool, gets it working once again.

00:01:27.840 And you have a bunch of people that want to continue to vandalize it and deface it.

00:01:34.120 What does that say about them?

00:01:37.440 So it's it's it's more than a mental disorder. 0.89

00:01:40.500 And I said this the other day, the Trump derangement syndrome has turned into morphed into something more.

00:01:46.300 And last night I put out this really good post that did very well.

00:01:49.520 And it was just me thinking from the heart. 0.68

00:01:52.200 These people with Trump derangement syndromes are creatures that are begging and screaming out for a lobotomy. 0.86

00:01:57.640 I'm not even kidding when I say it. 0.95

00:01:59.540 They're literally a social experiment waiting to have a lobotomy to find out just what is wrong with them.

00:02:08.280 Seeing these people going out there for pro-algae protests is something like I've never seen before.

00:02:14.020 I think the numbers were like 32 to 34 million dollars on what Obama spent to clean that reflecting pool over the course of two years.

00:02:21.540 Trump spends less than half that.

00:02:23.720 When President Obama did that, did you ever think to yourself, I should go down to the reflect?

00:02:28.240 I didn't even know he did it, Nick.

00:02:29.680 To be honest with you, I didn't even know he did it because it's a beautiful gesture.

00:02:33.700 I'm glad he did it.

00:02:34.700 If it wasn't he wasn't so corrupt, it would have probably been a very good gesture.

00:02:37.720 But I didn't even know he did it at the time because it was so minute.

00:02:40.840 Of course, upkeeping on national monuments, upkeeping on things in Washington, D.C., upkeeping on your own lawn in front of your house is something that's very important.

00:02:49.960 And so, no, Dick, to be honest with you, I had no idea he was doing it at the time.

00:02:53.180 But, of course, now that we look back at it, of course, it was something that he did.

00:02:56.000 And it was, of course, it was something you should have did.

00:02:58.320 Where was the money spent?

00:02:59.360 I don't know.

00:02:59.720 I think that's something we should probably look into.

00:03:01.620 Who did the contracting?

00:03:03.100 I think that's also something we should look into, because when President Trump did it, they went absolutely berserk, even though it was half the price and a year and a half ahead of schedule.

00:03:12.520 Now, all of a sudden, this thing seems to be peeling and there's protests going on.

00:03:16.860 They caught people cutting the liner.

00:03:18.480 It's it's a sickness at a whole new level. And, you know, the protests we've seen in the past, I think, you know, they morph in comparison to these people literally showing up with razor blades, cutting the ceiling of this because they hate President Trump so much.

00:03:33.540 It's actually so disturbing. But the reason I wanted to go with it, because it leads to something much broader that's going on.

00:03:39.900 You know, you have ordinary people that are afflicted with TDS, but then you have people that either are in positions of power or they do have influence or they're part of the media that also have TDS.

00:03:51.780 And I've seen over the course of the last several months, whether it's David Fromm, whether it's The Atlantic, whether it's Foreign Policy magazine, once a very esteemed magazine, now it's just trash, where they're actually writing articles and talking about that they don't believe that Trump should have victory in Iran because that would be more damaging than anything else.

00:04:15.240 only because it's Trump, though, that they say they don't like the theocracy, that the theocracy

00:04:19.600 should collapse, it should be replaced. But if Trump gets a victory, it will be more dangerous

00:04:25.460 than if we lose it, if we're defeated. What are your thoughts on that?

00:04:30.120 So this is something I've thought about over the course of the last few months. And what I thought

00:04:34.080 President Trump should actually do is since Chuck Schumer comes out every time he does something

00:04:38.140 and says it's wrong, is if I were President Trump, I'd go to the Democrats and say, listen, 0.99

00:04:42.180 Idiots, draw me up a proposal. 1.00

00:04:43.940 What do you want me to do? 1.00

00:04:45.900 Tell me what you want me to do.

00:04:47.300 And I guarantee you, Nick, that the proposal looks awfully similar to what President Trump's already doing.

00:04:53.700 But have them put it on the record.

00:04:55.300 You hear President Obama, Barack Hussein Obama, coming out saying, well, this is no different than my JCPOA.

00:05:01.180 And, you know, it's the same exact thing.

00:05:03.720 Well, no, no, no.

00:05:04.160 It's two completely, totally different things.

00:05:06.160 Just one on the basis of we're not sending them pallets of cash.

00:05:10.040 Now, they're caught up on this. What is it?

00:05:12.180 Three hundred million dollars.

00:05:13.340 And also 90 percent of Iran's military infrastructure has been destroyed.

00:05:17.560 Let's not gone, gone.

00:05:18.960 And that was the other thing that I thought was crazy through this whole process is there was a leaked report that came out along the lines of this events happening over the last few months.

00:05:27.020 And it was like, well, what President Trump has been saying is not entirely true.

00:05:31.420 It's not 85 percent damage.

00:05:33.420 It's only about 65 percent damage.

00:05:35.760 And, you know, it's not 20 years to rebuild.

00:05:38.160 It's only going to take about 10 years for them to get back to where they were.

00:05:41.760 And I'm like, you read how these people write and you can almost hear it in their voices

00:05:47.580 on how excited they are.

00:05:49.200 And it's like, what are you guys?

00:05:51.420 At the end of the day, Nick, I hated Barack Obama.

00:05:53.760 I'm not going to pretend like I liked the guy.

00:05:55.200 I hated him.

00:05:55.580 I thought he was the most divisive president we've ever had with race relations, with whatever

00:05:59.740 it was. 1.00

00:06:00.280 He was a horrible president and a horrible person. 1.00

00:06:02.860 But we all dealt with it. 0.99

00:06:04.780 I didn't like George W. Bush.

00:06:06.440 I couldn't stand Joe. But we all dealt with it and we cheered on this country.

00:06:10.660 Did I want to see tens of thousands to millions of illegal aliens pouring across our border under Joe Biden?

00:06:16.540 No. But guess what? We sat here and we dealt with it and said, hopefully better days are ahead.

00:06:21.180 Did I want to see Joe Biden overseas, tripping over himself, going to the bathroom in his pants, falling upstairs, falling downstairs on the national stage?

00:06:29.200 No, I didn't want to see it. It was depressing and it was sad for this country.

00:06:32.060 But these people would almost want, and I don't even say this jokingly, to see President Trump, something happened to him like happened to Charlie Kirk on the world stage, and they'd cheer it. 1.00

00:06:43.360 They're sick, sick, demented people. 0.99

00:06:45.800 And that's not normal behavior on any stretch of the imagination. 1.00

00:06:50.220 No, it's not normal.

00:06:51.040 I mean, and the fact is that if a president fails, Americans suffer the consequence.

00:06:55.440 And we saw that with the last administration.

00:06:57.160 Listen, I didn't want Biden to fail, but he failed.

00:06:59.920 He was a failure of a president. And we all suffered in the process.

00:07:03.520 I actually when he first took office, I said, you know, we've got to give him a chance.

00:07:07.420 He's the president of the United States. We have respect for the office.

00:07:10.280 And I hope he succeeds because if he succeeds, America succeeds.

00:07:13.580 Of course. Now we're actually seeing this mindset where a bunch of people despise the United States.

00:07:19.000 I mean, I was just looking at polls, you know, Gen Zers, only 26 percent of them actually are proud to be American.

00:07:26.160 You have 55 percent of Democrats say that they would rather live in a foreign country over the United States. 0.66

00:07:33.080 I mean, we have people that now despise the country they're in as someone that that is part of the media.

00:07:40.980 You've been in the media for a while.

00:07:42.760 The media bears responsibility in this with their messaging.

00:07:45.780 I mean, have you noticed that the media has put out nothing more than the theocratic regime's talking points since the start of the Iran war?

00:07:53.860 Yeah, the media is when President Trump says it and they say he's a threat, President Trump, the media is the enemy of the people.

00:08:01.180 Nick, they've lied to us for 10 years about everything you can possibly think of under the sun from the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax to the Ukraine phone call to Joe Biden being in perfect health to Joe Biden not having metastatic prostate cancer to Joe Biden being perfectly cognitive to President Trump selling out to Qatar to President Trump to selling out to Russia.

00:08:23.860 to China. Every single nation, foreign nation that you can list, they've said President Trump

00:08:29.180 has sold out to. And I mean, there's never been any evidence to support that. But they continue

00:08:34.760 to get away with it because these lawsuits that are filed against these organizations just go by

00:08:39.640 the wayside. Rogue judges dismiss it. But these people literally are the enemy of the people.

00:08:43.780 They are the greatest threat to democracy. And I think with social media now, with Twitter,

00:08:50.100 with Reddit, with all of these online outlets where you can go to to get your news.

00:08:54.940 You look at I worked in legacy media for a long time.

00:08:57.480 You look at legacy media dying and dying and dying.

00:09:01.140 People are tuning out.

00:09:02.460 Now, you'll still always have your older generation who tune into Fox News every night.

00:09:05.760 That's going to be there.

00:09:06.720 But guess what, Nick?

00:09:07.660 We're all every second, every minute that passes by, we're all getting older.

00:09:11.100 And in 20 years, the same people aren't going to be here who are here today and so on and

00:09:16.220 so forth.

00:09:16.640 So as generations continue to grow, these media companies are going to continue to hurt.

00:09:21.840 And they're holding on, I think, for their last lifeline.

00:09:25.780 Well, one of the things I'll say about the media is that, yes, legacy media is dying, but people still use their clips, put them online.

00:09:32.400 And so they still get views that way.

00:09:33.940 I mean, the amount of viewers they actually get on their networks is pathetic, but their views do go viral a lot of times.

00:09:39.880 Plus, also, you have, you know, New York Times will put out a story and I'm just using them as an example.

00:09:44.780 story will be totally wrong but the story will will pick up steam it'll get millions of repos

00:09:50.360 whatever and then when they go to issue the correction like 10 people see the correction

00:09:54.160 and that's always been a problem in the media but one of the aspects of the media that i find

00:09:58.540 extremely dangerous i don't necessarily like using enemy of the people i think that's extremely

00:10:04.220 strong language but to me when you look at the bureaucracy combined with the media because let's

00:10:11.180 be honest here the bureaucracy in the media has almost become one in the same where they'll push

00:10:16.640 the talking points of the bureaucracy you have people like john brennan that freely go on the

00:10:21.740 media and he's treated as the expert and then you have the media spouting off bureaucratic talking

00:10:27.560 points and democratic talking points is it incorrect to actually use the term media aren't

00:10:33.620 they just an extension of the democrat national committee at this point and the bureaucratic deep

00:10:37.640 state. Well, I'd argue with you on the point that they put out their talking points. They're in

00:10:41.980 direct coordination with these people, which is why I call them the enemy of the people. To use

00:10:46.760 CBS 60 Minutes, for an example, that edited interview that got them sued of Kamala Harris, 0.87

00:10:52.780 they were putting out blatant lies from a woman who couldn't coherently put out a sentence, 0.99

00:10:56.940 whether she was drunk or she's just dumb. I think it's probably a little bit of both. 0.99

00:11:00.960 That to me is the enemy of the people. When you're lying about this country and you're lying about

00:11:05.560 things that go on in this country, when you're leaking top secret information about this country

00:11:09.760 to the world to see that to me is the enemy of the people. When you are supporting our foreign

00:11:15.420 adversaries and our enemies abroad, that's treason. You're the enemy of the people. So

00:11:20.460 that's what I mean by it. And I stand by it. I think you bring up some good points there,

00:11:31.140 because what we've witnessed over the course of the last two decades, and some will argue it's

00:11:36.520 actually longer than that, is a media that's not out for seeking the truth. I mean, let's face it,

00:11:42.260 there are plenty of scandals within the government that they could have reported on over the years,

00:11:46.980 and it would have made careers, but they chose not to report on it because it would damage,

00:11:51.660 quote unquote, what they deem the wrong people. They just want to damage Trump and Republicans.

00:11:56.280 Real quickly, while you bring that up, before I forget, I think I've got like early dementia

00:11:59.680 because I forget everything. Tulsi Gabbard comes out last week, Nick, and she puts out this thing

00:12:04.820 about Anthony Fauci, literally nailing him to the wall about everything he's done.

00:12:11.540 Where is the coverage on that? You see wall-to-wall coverage on CNN about the algae

00:12:15.860 and the reflecting pool, not one thing. And then what do you see this week? Hit pieces coming out

00:12:20.960 strategically on Tulsi Gabbard. Tulsi Gabbard's whole career, she's worked for X, Y, and Z,

00:12:26.780 And she's looked out for X, Y and Z, not reporting on the fact that Dr. Anthony Fauci is one of the most vile, vicious, disgusting people to ever step foot in a governmental office. 0.76

00:12:38.400 Nobody's talking about it. Not even Fox News. 0.95

00:12:41.140 John, you were talking about how Tulsi Gabbard is being demonized, villainized in the media for actually exposing the dirty deeds, the corrupt deeds, the criminal acts of Lord Fauci.

00:12:52.380 Remember, the guy who said he was science himself.

00:12:55.340 And if you criticized Fauci, he wanted to do everything to destroy your reputation.

00:13:00.300 That's not Professor Giordano saying that.

00:13:02.640 We actually have the emails with Dr.

00:13:05.320 Fauci and several others talking about those that came out with the Great Barrington Declaration

00:13:09.360 and talking about how they needed to hurt their reputation so that the Great Barrington

00:13:14.860 Declaration couldn't get coverage.

00:13:16.940 But first, I want to look at Tulsi Gabbard. 0.97

00:13:20.100 Yeah.

00:13:20.260 Are you sad to see her go?

00:13:22.920 Yeah.

00:13:23.340 Yeah, I think Tulsi was amazing.

00:13:25.000 I think she was a godsend.

00:13:26.260 She was one of the greatest things this administration had.

00:13:29.360 She's in the job just over a year. 1.00

00:13:30.860 She had bigger cojones than most of the people in the administration. 1.00

00:13:32.700 Oh, she absolutely did. 0.99

00:13:33.820 And I've known Tulsi personally.

00:13:35.280 I've known friends who have known Tulsi personally.

00:13:38.420 One of my good friends in this business, Roger Stone, is very good friends with her.

00:13:41.760 Let's look at what she's did.

00:13:43.060 She took on, from taking office back in February of last year, the radical DEI that's come through sweeping institutions.

00:13:51.280 I mean, you know that better than anybody.

00:13:52.880 Cutting the waste, fraud, and abuse in various organizations throughout this corrupt government.

00:13:59.420 Went after the gangs, the foreign gangs, the cartels.

00:14:02.600 What about, because people seem to forget, revoking the deep state clearances of the folks of John Brennan and those ilks.

00:14:09.120 Oh, how about the declassification of the MLK, the JFK, the RFK files?

00:14:13.060 How about the the evidence uncovering the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax, the weaponization in government over a half a million pages of issues of various issues over the course of the last few years declassified?

00:14:29.820 I mean, this woman did more in that job than we were going to see from anybody, I think, ever take that job over and anyone who had that job before and then throw in the haymaker going after Anthony Fauci before she left.

00:14:44.600 Tulsi was an absolute, I mean, amazing, amazing D&I.

00:14:48.580 It's so sad to see her go.

00:14:50.320 And, you know, I don't buy the whole story, Nick, that she's going to she's leaving to take care of her husband.

00:14:55.180 Yes, absolutely.

00:14:55.920 She probably loves her husband.

00:14:57.100 She definitely loves her husband. 1.00

00:14:58.020 She's definitely going to go take care of him.

00:14:59.580 But I think there was a lot of pressure put on Tulsi from the inner institution of the deep state that really, really kept grinding at her.

00:15:08.400 And she said, you know, F this, you know, like, why am I going to put up with this?

00:15:11.760 Nobody's got my back. And I think that's ultimately what drove Tulsi.

00:15:15.400 But I don't think we're going to see the end of her. I think her political career is just getting started.

00:15:20.140 Well, I mean, listen, I think that she set the standard of what we want to see in intel agency heads.

00:15:25.540 I wish it was a Tulsi Gabbard, no DNI and CIA in the FBI.

00:15:30.580 Sadly, we're left with what we're left with.

00:15:32.360 And I think you're right.

00:15:33.140 There's a lot of talk behind the scenes about the CIA and Radcliffe having problems with Tulsi and the FBI.

00:15:39.260 But she set the standard.

00:15:40.920 And this is what frustrates me, because a lot of people try and attack her.

00:15:44.060 What she did was she did the classified documents and she released them.

00:15:48.120 These are government documents, government officials in their own words talking about this stuff.

00:15:52.440 It's not Tulsi Gabbard putting her own spin on it.

00:15:55.340 And on summer, every single person out there could read these documents themselves and formulate their own conclusions.

00:16:00.840 And I think that we need more document release, not less.

00:16:04.920 So when we look at Tulsi Gabbard and we look at someone like a Lord Fauci, what should be the consequence?

00:16:11.940 You know, I know the media is not covering it.

00:16:13.720 Do you think that the Department of Justice in this administration has any courage to really go after Fauci to punish him and prosecute him for the crimes he committed?

00:16:24.040 No, I think if it was going to be done, it would have been done already.

00:16:26.700 That's why, you know, when I go on my show, I don't give people false hope about it.

00:16:29.740 I deal with the reality of what it is.

00:16:31.800 How many people have we seen go to jail so far?

00:16:34.100 How much accountability have we seen so far from the 51 intel spies who lied?

00:16:39.620 How much intel, how much accountability have we seen from from James Comey other than him lying to Congress?

00:16:48.180 You know, so we have yet to see any sort of accountability.

00:16:51.100 So, you know, why am I going to sit here and get my hopes up?

00:16:53.640 I'm not being pessimistic about it either.

00:16:55.180 I think I'm being very realistic.

00:16:56.600 No, I agree with you and I share your sentiments.

00:16:59.400 But I do have to ask you, you know, the Trump administration, when they when President Trump was elected for the second term,

00:17:07.180 A lot of us thought, all right, the system was weaponized against him.

00:17:11.660 He was targeted.

00:17:13.060 And we were celebrating some of the people.

00:17:15.300 I mean, Kash Patel wrote a whole book on government gangsters and who was doing the targeting and everything.

00:17:20.960 Why are the ones that were targeted?

00:17:23.200 Why are they not serious about actually taking out the swamp, fighting back against the system?

00:17:29.060 And if they're afraid of the system, if they're scared and they don't have the courage to take it on, can the swamp ever be drained?

00:17:36.420 Yeah. I mean, to further your point, why is President Trump not more furious and abhorrent about a man who tried to assassinate him, a man who shot him in the ear, another man who came from Hawaii with not a dollar in his pocket, but was able to set up a staging unit outside his golf course to assassinate him?

00:17:54.340 I don't know the answer to these questions. And a lot of people I speak to at high, high levels also don't know the answers to these questions. I have no clue. I don't know why President Trump is not more fired up about this. John Ratcliffe, I understand. He's a deep state swamp creature who's been in the swamp his entire life. So it is what it is with him. He shouldn't be in that job in the first place.

00:18:14.640 Kash Patel is another one for the life of me.

00:18:16.160 I couldn't understand.

00:18:17.680 Now that Pam Bondi is gone, I thought we'd get a little bit more from him.

00:18:20.740 I don't know.

00:18:21.480 Time is running out.

00:18:22.540 You know, we're a year and a half into this thing.

00:18:25.300 And you really only got about a year and change left before, you know, the elections.

00:18:30.860 And then from that November to January period, not much stuff happened.

00:18:34.180 So I wish I could answer your question.

00:18:37.020 I'd be lying if I had an answer.

00:18:39.380 Yeah, to say I'm disappointed would be putting it mildly.

00:18:42.300 I'm really actually aggravated about this.

00:18:44.500 And I'm aggravated with Republicans in Congress, too, because basically what we've seen is nothing has been done that could prevent the weaponization from ever happening again.

00:18:54.800 I mean, we look at FISA, FISA, the notorious abuses that happened with FISA, over 250,000 times it was misused in one year.

00:19:03.700 President Trump reports it now.

00:19:04.840 Correct. Over a million times in several years.

00:19:08.960 And yet Republicans and the Trump administration, knowing how it's been abused and actually used against them, are saying, yeah, we want to clean FISA bill.

00:19:17.220 What do you make of all this?

00:19:19.180 Same same answer to the last I have.

00:19:21.840 I have no idea.

00:19:23.120 I can't figure out what's in President Trump's head.

00:19:25.500 I can't figure out what's going on in that place.

00:19:27.480 I can't figure out who's got him brainwashed, believing that this is what we need.

00:19:31.640 And it's scary to me to think that the very tool that they use to spy on President Trump

00:19:37.400 that has zero reforms, OK, you say you've tailored the warrant aspect of it, but we

00:19:42.540 all know that's a lie. 0.66

00:19:43.520 You can go get a warrant from one of those rogue judges in the basement of hell.

00:19:47.320 You don't even need a warrant because the Patriot Act tells us that they can spy on us 0.73

00:19:51.140 whenever the hell they want anyway.

00:19:52.860 So what difference does it make at this point?

00:19:55.060 I just wish they'd be more transparent about it and tell us, listen, this is what we're

00:19:59.140 going to do.

00:19:59.520 We're not going to lie to you anymore, but we're spying on you each and every single day.

00:20:03.200 We're collecting your metadata.

00:20:05.140 I don't know if you saw this, but a few months ago, me and you actually may have talked about this the last time that they were looking.

00:20:11.020 The government was looking to buy cookies and metadata from Instagram, from Facebook, from from all these various different organizations to spy on Americans.

00:20:21.260 Now, for those of you folks who aren't technological in the computers, I'm not and I'm not pretending to be.

00:20:26.620 But anytime you go on a Web site, it's stored in these cookies and metadata and it stores in a little system to see what you're scrolling through, what you're browsing through.

00:20:34.640 The government wants to be able to buy that from Facebook, from meta, from all these institutions to figure out what your patterns are.

00:20:42.400 Why would they give a damn about an ordinary, innocent American and what they're looking at on the Internet?

00:20:47.320 If they're looking at guns, if they're looking at, I don't know, shopping, it's to me, it's so strange and it's only getting worse.

00:20:53.940 Well, it begs the question, was the NSA's prison program ever really shut down?

00:20:59.300 You know, when Edwin Snowden came out and released how they were collecting all the metadata off Americans.

00:21:04.360 And I think that the reason the question you raise is so important with the cookies and Instagram and Facebook is because if the government wanted that data, it used to need a warrant to actually get that data.

00:21:15.620 Yeah. Now they could just purchase it and with your taxpayer dollars.

00:21:19.780 So our taxpayer dollars are being weaponized against us. 1.00

00:21:22.100 That's how dumb we are. And most Americans, their heads are buried in the sand. 1.00

00:21:26.020 They don't know. They don't care. And even when I speak to progressives, I'm like, well, do you want the Trump administration have this power?

00:21:32.700 They're like, oh, no, no, no, definitely not. And yet they're OK once their people are back in power.

00:21:37.380 And I think that's what it comes down to. I think there's a lot of people willing to give this administration a pass simply because they support the administration.

00:21:43.900 They say, well, at least it's our guys in positions of power now and it's not the other side.

00:21:48.380 But little do they realize the other side will be in power sooner or later.

00:21:52.240 And that's going to bring us not even 2026.

00:21:55.220 There's still Joe Biden people.

00:21:57.740 There's still Barack Hussein Obama.

00:21:59.100 There's still George Bush people working inside of these three letter agencies.

00:22:03.400 Well, John Brennan said there's legions, legions of people in the deep state in these bureaucratic agencies.

00:22:09.760 And he's not wrong.

00:22:11.000 Eighty percent of the presidential donations went to Kamala Harris, the federal employees.

00:22:16.580 Eighty four percent of donations in the last presidential campaign went to Kamala Harris.

00:22:21.840 That speaks volumes.

00:22:23.220 I tell you, listen, everyone knows I'm conservative, but I don't donate to Republican candidates because I believe that's public information.

00:22:31.200 My students could see that and then they could see that I have a financial vested interest in who wins.

00:22:35.960 And yet federal employees just do it with a punity.

00:22:38.480 Nobody can. I don't donate to any of them because I can't stand each and every single one of them.

00:22:42.940 That's the reason I don't donate to them.

00:22:44.400 I donated to President Trump and that was it.

00:22:46.160 I can't stand these people, and it's the reason I don't even have them on my show anymore.

00:22:50.320 There's probably five or six members of Congress that I can count on one hand, maybe two, that I actually genuinely like.

00:22:56.340 The rest of them, I think they're all just in a cookie jar of just molded cookies.

00:23:02.480 It's just a horrible sentiment in Washington, D.C., man. 1.00

00:23:05.960 Well, they're all full of crap. 1.00

00:23:07.500 That's the problem, and Republicans are too. 1.00

00:23:10.220 You have all these Republicans. Every year they campaign on the idea of limited government, fiscal responsibility, draining the swamp, blah, blah, blah. And yet when they get into power, they do nothing. Absolutely nothing. So we look at something like the Save Act, right? We see how difficult it is to get something like the Save Act through the United States Senate, despite 84 percent of the American people wanting voter ID or it might be 81 percent. But I'm pretty close. It's an 80 plus percent.

00:23:37.720 Yeah. What are Republicans in Congress doing to make sure that Republicans come out and vote in midterm elections?

00:23:46.800 Nothing. Next question. No, it's the truth of the matter. They haven't done anything.

00:23:53.340 And I make this case all the time and people tell me I'm too pessimistic on it.

00:23:56.460 But, you know, I want to be ready for the result that I know is going to happen, not one that, you know, you know, I'm going to be in a fairy tale about.

00:24:05.540 But the truth of the matter is absolutely nothing.

00:24:07.640 And once again, for another election cycle, they're relying on President Trump.

00:24:10.780 They're relying on President Trump's war chest and they're replying on President Trump's

00:24:13.780 name that he's going to come out and save every single one of them.

00:24:16.760 And I think, unfortunately, he's going to.

00:24:19.140 I'm one of these people who says if they don't want to put in the effort and they don't have

00:24:22.560 the respect for their constituents to come out and do a little bit of something, they

00:24:26.960 don't deserve to be there.

00:24:28.940 And like I said, there's probably five or six of them that I can count on one hand.

00:24:32.460 One of them, Tim Burchett, last time I was in Washington, D.C., I texted.

00:24:35.540 I said, hey, are you around? I'm in D.C. He said, yeah, come by my office. Let's talk. I come by and I sit down just me and him in his office and we're talking. And I could just tell in his eyes and looking at him that he's just swamped. I mean, he's he's literally just drained in fighting. And he's one of the few people out there is actually fighting for transparency. He's one of the few people out there who will go against the status quo. And, you know, he's like I said, just one example, one.

00:25:00.460 But Tim Burchard is, you know, your token man who you should look at that every Republican should aspire to be like genuine, real and someone who's actually trying to make a difference and not just go there and take their one hundred seventy five thousand dollar paycheck and be bought by lobbyists.

00:25:17.200 i wish we had more people that were statesmen as opposed to just

00:25:26.300 korea politicians and sitting there saying that the other side is socialist is not enough

00:25:31.280 no yeah they may be socialist and they may be worse but in america we shouldn't have to look

00:25:37.120 at both sides as the lesser of two evils do you agree with that yeah you know i used to say the

00:25:41.400 lesser of two evils and lou lou dobbs used to say to me no they're both evil there's no such thing

00:25:45.740 as the lesser of the two eagles they're both hey you know i used to argue with him i mean you know

00:25:49.140 it actually makes sense they're both evil and they are i mean the democrats are just a little 0.87

00:25:53.800 bit more malicious and a little bit maniacal than than the republicans i think the republicans 0.99

00:25:58.660 are just dumb and lazy in a lot of senses and you look at some of these people you've got like guys 0.99

00:26:03.340 out by you mike lawler who i think is just a rhino who's held on to his seat for some odd odd reason 1.00

00:26:09.460 the republicans spent all their time going after george santos a guy who faked a resume and did 1.00

00:26:15.040 some stupid shit. Yet Nancy Pelosi is out there making hundreds of millions of dollars on stock 1.00

00:26:20.960 trades. Marjorie Taylor Greene resigns, making millions of dollars in stock trades. And they

00:26:26.700 literally had their eye on a guy who lied about a resume. And to me, it's like, yeah, he's just

00:26:33.460 another one. But you look at this and it's like, OK, yeah, I think you should go after every single

00:26:38.160 one of them. I'm not saying give George Santos a pass. But if you're going to treat him one way,

00:26:42.180 Treat the rest of them all the same way.

00:26:44.720 They didn't go after the guy.

00:26:46.320 Is it Anthony D'Esposito in New York who hired his baby mama, hired a girlfriend, did this, did that.

00:26:52.840 If you're going to do it, go after everyone.

00:26:55.680 Don't set a certain level of standards for one person.

00:26:58.580 Make it the same for all.

00:27:00.380 So go after every single one of them.

00:27:01.940 You had the guy who pulled the fire alarm.

00:27:03.400 You got the – there's just a plethora.

00:27:06.420 There's 10 or 20 of them who are just total lowlifes.

00:27:09.920 Yeah, I agree.

00:27:10.740 And I think that when we look at public officials, I mean, we should have the highest standards possible when it comes to running for office.

00:27:17.980 Yeah, we have the most unremarkable people in these positions of power that have enormous influence over our lives.

00:27:25.360 But are Americans starting to wake up?

00:27:27.640 I mean, you know, we saw what happened with John Cornyn over in Texas.

00:27:31.740 There have been a few other examples.

00:27:33.520 We saw what happened in Indiana.

00:27:34.840 Every single Republican that refused to gerrymander in Indiana ended up getting voted out in primaries.

00:27:40.740 Do you think that the ordinary Republicans out there have had enough that they're fed up and that they're looking to change this?

00:27:47.640 Yeah, a little inside baseball. You mentioned John Cornyn, which I thought was a perfect example.

00:27:51.600 I was told very early on and then later to people inside the campaigns that even with the Trump endorsement, Cornyn lost.

00:27:59.920 He would have lost to Ken Paxton, even with the Trump endorsement.

00:28:03.040 And I think President Trump eventually found that out.

00:28:06.080 Yes, I think absolutely. The people are waking up.

00:28:08.020 They need to wake up a little bit more and they need to get more people involved.

00:28:12.380 Primaries are healthy.

00:28:13.300 They're not bad things.

00:28:14.400 As long as you have the right candidates. 0.90

00:28:16.700 If you look at the race down in South Carolina for Lindsey Graham's seat, you had about 18

00:28:20.640 people running against him.

00:28:22.020 That's not how it should be.

00:28:23.700 You get the best candidate that could beat Lady Lindsey Graham, and I'm just using this

00:28:27.160 as an example, and you run them against him.

00:28:29.720 And guess what?

00:28:30.120 You put up a fair shot.

00:28:31.160 If they would have put one candidate up against him, I think they would have had a fair shot

00:28:34.000 at going to a runoff.

00:28:34.960 So you can't continue to bloat these fields, which they'll do.

00:28:38.380 And the Democrats do it, too.

00:28:40.180 You look at what they did in California where they stole an election from Spencer Pratt, almost stole it from Steve Hilton.

00:28:46.440 I do I do think the people waking up and I think people around the world are waking up, Nick, around the world.

00:28:53.900 Well, let's talk about that, because we've seen this shift.

00:28:56.420 Right. I mean, you know, you have Keir Steimer over in the UK.

00:28:59.180 Hey, he's out.

00:29:00.260 There's talk once they hold the next round of elections later on this year

00:29:03.740 that maybe someone like a Farage could come into play.

00:29:06.260 We're seeing it all throughout South America.

00:29:09.060 I mean, we are seeing this right wing shift dramatically.

00:29:13.360 So what are your thoughts on that?

00:29:15.540 We're seeing it around the world.

00:29:17.280 Do you think we'll see it further in Europe?

00:29:19.360 Do you think it's coming to the United States?

00:29:21.900 Yeah.

00:29:22.420 So here's an interesting stat.

00:29:25.440 You ready for this?

00:29:25.920 Seven Latin American elections.

00:29:28.060 seven Latin American elections have went to far, quote unquote, far right candidates since USAID

00:29:34.760 was defunded. You had an election in Chile. You had an election in Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador,

00:29:41.100 Honduras, Costa Rica, and then just today in Colombia since USAID was defunded. And you would

00:29:48.340 have had the one in Brazil too if they didn't lock up Bolsonaro. I think the paradigm, Nick,

00:29:53.340 is starting to shift around the world. And I think Donald Trump has a massive, massive part

00:29:58.160 to play in it. These nations, I can't tell you, I travel a lot. I travel overseas a lot. I can't

00:30:04.120 tell you how many people I speak to, both who hate Donald Trump overseas, which I understand.

00:30:08.620 I understand that you don't like Donald Trump if I'm over in Europe. I get it. It's the beta

00:30:13.000 territory. Donald Trump's an alpha. He cares for America. I get it. But I can't tell you how many

00:30:17.580 people surprisingly say, I'm jealous. I wish we had a man like that in our country. I wish we had

00:30:24.300 a man like that running our country. Just this morning, Keir Starmer, which I've been saying

00:30:28.560 for two months, actually put a bet in on Kalshi two months ago, a 30% chance that Keir Starmer

00:30:33.880 would be gone by July 1st. It won today. So I'm very happy. I think people are starting to wake

00:30:41.600 up and realize you look at the Muslim radicalization that's happening right now in the United Kingdom.

00:30:46.040 I think that's an eye opener for people. You look at what has happened to Germany. You look at what has happened to economically. If you want to look at Greece, it's a melting pot over in the in the European Union for allowing people to come into their country, destroy their country, the homeless issue.

00:31:01.860 You see what's happening over in Ireland with them going with the the the the folks over there in Belfast going after the migrants there. 0.90

00:31:10.120 I think people have really just had enough of what's going on in their countries.

00:31:14.860 And I think America is is leading the way for these people.

00:31:19.560 Yeah, well, let's face it. I mean, the reason that Trump got a second term was because people were fed up.

00:31:24.980 They were fed up with the open borders. They were fed up or be talked to a condescension by those in power.

00:31:30.540 and people just are starving for authenticity, not the fake politicians with their rehearsed

00:31:37.140 and regurgitated lines. So it's going to be interesting to see that dynamic. So one final

00:31:42.800 question. Sure. As we pass the midterms, obviously all eyes are going to be in 2028. Now, 2028 is

00:31:50.100 going to be a very unique presidential race because it's going to be all newcomers essentially 1.00

00:31:55.740 in this race. Right. People that that didn't it's not going to be any incumbents that have been in 1.00

00:32:03.140 the presidency. What are your thoughts on the Republican side? You have a lot of talk about

00:32:08.160 Marco Rubio, a lot of talk about J.D. Vance. You and I speak before the show. J.D. Vance seems to

00:32:13.500 be taking a more prominent role. What are your thoughts? I think every day that goes by, I like

00:32:18.560 J.D. Vance more and more. I like that he stands up to some people who people are scared to stand

00:32:24.200 up to. I think that JD is his own man. I don't think JD is bought and owned by anybody. And

00:32:29.040 this is me. I think you and I have actually spoken about this as Bart. I, in the beginning,

00:32:32.840 didn't really care for JD. I didn't really like him. I was very hot on Marco Rubio, but I said,

00:32:37.300 you know, it's far away. And I got to be honest with you, each day that goes by, I think JD Vance

00:32:41.960 shows more and more that he's independent of any BS. He's independent of any corruption. He's

00:32:47.340 independent of nonsense.

00:32:51.440 And I think every day that goes by, he shows more and more.

00:32:54.700 Now, I just hope J.D. has the optimism in him to get ready to run.

00:32:59.960 I don't think he's 100 percent of the way there yet.

00:33:01.800 I think he's probably 60 percent of the way there.

00:33:05.280 And as you know, it's President Trump's endorsement isn't always a guarantee.

00:33:09.460 So there's been talk there was in Maggie.

00:33:13.000 Well, I think he's pitting Vance and Rubio against each other, letting them compete it out to see which one comes out.

00:33:19.920 There was something from Maggie Haberman's new book that's coming out, the New York Times with Jonathan Karl, that someone said something about all the gold in the Oval Office.

00:33:28.440 And President Trump said something along the lines of Cubans love gold, obviously alluding to the fact of Marco Rubio being the next president.

00:33:34.200 So I don't know. It's just a matter of that.

00:33:36.580 I know J.D. Vance isn't going to get on his hands and knees and beg for an endorsement.

00:33:40.440 I got to know J.D. Vance a little bit over the course of the last two years.

00:33:45.020 He doesn't seem to me like that kind of guy.

00:33:47.120 And if the writing is on the wall where he doesn't think that endorsements there, that support is there.

00:33:51.760 He's not going to do it.

00:33:53.000 And like I said, each day that goes by, I have more and more respect for J.D. and what he does.

00:33:58.880 And in 2028, which Democrat do you fear the most?

00:34:01.520 Who the hell knows?

00:34:02.440 I don't fear any of them. 1.00

00:34:03.340 I think they're all just idiots, whether it be Kamala, whether it be Gavin Newsom. 1.00

00:34:08.160 The thing is that these people all have hidden skeletons in the closet that I think eventually start to come out. 1.00

00:34:13.540 So I don't know. Is it going to be J.B. Pritzker? I don't know.

00:34:16.140 I think probably someone you feel the most is that midget in Pennsylvania, the Governor Shapiro. 1.00

00:34:20.800 I think he's probably the most level headed out of all of them. 1.00

00:34:23.720 He hasn't spoke as much. The only problem is he's about four feet tall, which doesn't really bode well for presidential contenders historically.

00:34:32.140 I think he's probably their best chance at putting up a fight.

00:34:36.300 everyone's already seen the rest of the clown car.

00:34:39.100 Well, actually, I'll tell you, man, I don't forget the clown car.

00:34:42.740 We all know it's a clown show over there.

00:34:44.700 But AOC is the one that fears me the most. 0.97

00:34:47.100 Really?

00:34:47.880 Yeah.

00:34:48.940 And the reason she fears me, I fear her the most is because while she may not have the brains, 0.98

00:34:54.680 she is political. 0.99

00:34:56.500 She's a political animal. 1.00

00:34:57.680 She knows how to get a following. 1.00

00:34:59.960 She knows how to get the following active and involved. 1.00

00:35:02.500 She's defeating incumbents left and right across the country. 1.00

00:35:05.320 people that have a lot of political power and i think that she has it almost like a trump dynamic 1.00

00:35:10.960 to her that if i was a republican i'd pay attention to her because out of all them she's the one i

00:35:17.580 would fear the most and you see this push for socialism yeah that's a different story for a

00:35:22.220 different day i think real quick i think you probably fear her the most until people start

00:35:26.020 to hear her speak uh and and they start to she's very she's a very unlikable person we've tried the

00:35:32.180 socialism thing with bernie sanders and he's got his clocks clocks clean um yes is there is there

00:35:37.380 a paradigm shift towards the socialist agenda yes there is but it's in places like deep blue

00:35:42.120 new york city across the rest of the country you know you don't really see the little spurts of

00:35:47.740 little somalia up in minneapolis but i think generally speaking uh you know people are more

00:35:55.220 geared towards marxist dem and not full radical uh socialist dem yeah well it's going to be

00:36:01.860 interesting to see. It's going to be a wild ride. John, always a pleasure to have you on.

00:36:06.120 Make sure you follow America, the America's

00:36:09.740 Founding Series on the PAS Report. Make sure you follow the Great America

00:36:13.660 Show. John, great pleasure talking to you. Always a delight.

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The Great America Show - July 02, 2026

Americans WANT THE SWAMP DRAINED, Is Trump doing it？

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