The Great America Show - ARE PARENTS REALLY TERRORISTS？

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America podcast with Lou Dobbs, always in the fight for

00:00:05.580 truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life. And now here he is, the Peabody award-winning

00:00:11.740 voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs. Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the Great

00:00:17.020 America show. Now, what may be a surprising development, recent polls show that more

00:00:22.580 Americans are now identifying as evangelical Christians. It turns out that in many quarters

00:00:29.060 of this country, it's actually cool to be Christian. Christians have always thought it was pretty

00:00:34.500 cool, my wife and I among them, but in large measure, thanks to Donald Trump, religion is back

00:00:40.480 in the public square, often at the center of a number of public policy issues that include, for

00:00:46.620 example, the right to life, the new heartbeat law in Texas, which uses science as its foundation for

00:00:53.300 when life begins in order to protect life itself. And the left has never felt more threatened because

00:01:00.260 the science of life is a mighty mantle and shield for truth. The right of all American citizens to

00:01:07.560 choose whether to vaccinate or not, and for many the right to assemble in church to worship their God,

00:01:14.160 constitutional rights under the First Amendment, assuring freedom of religion. On the Great America

00:01:20.400 show, we will always debate the issues, and God will have a prominent place in such debates.

00:01:26.840 We're joined now by Dr. Robert Jeffress, who is a great American, a great friend, and a great pastor.

00:01:33.700 Pastor Jeffress is a best-selling author as well, television and radio host. His programs are called

00:01:39.900 Pathway to Victory, and he's senior pastor at the First Baptist Church in Dallas, Texas.

00:01:46.020 It is great, Pastor, to have you with us. As when last we spoke, Christianity remains under assault 0.98

00:01:54.340 from this administration, the left, in your state, Texas, challenging the abortion law,

00:02:02.000 which the Supreme Court looks like it will settle once and for all. I'd like to get your judgment first

00:02:09.420 for our audience as to the importance of that law, one of a kind in the nation, and its importance to

00:02:18.940 the pro-life movement. Well, Lou, first of all, thanks for having me. It's great to be back with

00:02:24.520 you again. And, you know, I, for one, was really pleasantly surprised that the Supreme Court has allowed

00:02:31.660 this Texas law that bans abortions after six weeks, or there's a detection of a fetal heartbeat.

00:02:39.340 It has prohibited that, and the Supreme Court has continued to let that stand. We know we have a

00:02:46.520 pro-life, predominantly Supreme Court, thanks in large part to President Trump. But I never thought

00:02:54.480 they would go this far in protecting life. So I'm very surprised, but very pleasantly surprised

00:03:01.320 by what's happening. Now, we don't know what the final verdict is going to be on this law. They may

00:03:07.580 pull back on some issues. But what I find encouraging is conservatives, conservative justices are

00:03:15.320 following the science on this. They're telling us, you know, that's not a biological blob in a mother's

00:03:20.980 womb. It's a human being. And I just think the left is so hypocritical. They say, follow the science.

00:03:27.760 Well, we are following the science, and that's why we hold the sanctity of life dear. So I think this

00:03:33.560 is a very encouraging development, and more is yet to come. And surely will. The state of Texas doing

00:03:44.120 what it can to defend the law. The Supreme Court signaling that it's going to be very serious and

00:03:53.120 objective, it appears, in assessing this law under the Constitution. I have to say to you, I personally

00:04:03.100 think there's never been a pro-life law on the books anywhere that is stronger or better reasoned

00:04:13.140 or more likely to succeed. Your thoughts on that?

00:04:16.820 Well, I think that's exactly right. There has never been a law this conservative, this

00:04:21.700 favorable toward life. And one way you know it's a landmark decision, Lou, is Planned Parenthood is

00:04:29.420 absolutely in a frenzy. In fact, my wife Amy and I received a mailing just yesterday from Planned

00:04:35.840 Parenthood with a bumper sticker to put on our car, just sounding the alarm that this is terrible. And

00:04:43.140 when you've got Planned Parenthood, which is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democrat Party,

00:04:48.520 when you have them pushing back and saying, we have an emergency state here, you know the Supreme

00:04:54.480 Court's doing the right thing.

00:04:56.640 Absolutely. And guess what's going on right now? Vice President Kamala Harris is campaigning, 0.99

00:05:04.460 and she's campaigning in churches. Is that what you would have expected the Vice President of the

00:05:10.360 United States to be doing in this very interesting political year?

00:05:15.040 That's what I would have expected this Vice President to have done, Lou. I mean, look,

00:05:20.800 I've got to point out to your audience the absolute hypocrisy of the left on this,

00:05:26.100 and the hypocrisy of the Biden Internal Revenue Service. Just a couple of months ago,

00:05:31.600 we had a case that came forward with a group here in Texas called Christians Engaged.

00:05:36.380 They were a group that encouraged people to go out and vote, not for a particular candidate,

00:05:41.500 but to vote their, quote, biblical convictions. And the IRS denied their tax-exempt application,

00:05:49.540 saying that when you encourage people to vote their biblical values, that is the same as voting

00:05:57.080 Republican values. I mean, that's unbelievable that the IRS would say that, but they said that's

00:06:02.800 partisan, you can't do it. And now you've got Kamala Harris, who is a part of the executive branch 1.00

00:06:08.820 that oversees the Internal Revenue Service, recording a video that's being shown in 300

00:06:14.340 churches in Virginia, and what she says to the congregation, you sent Joe and me to the White

00:06:20.140 House last year, I'm asking you now to send Terry McAuliffe to the governorship of Virginia.

00:06:25.160 You know, Lou, when we had Vice President Pence in 2020 in our church, we followed every IRS

00:06:31.620 regulation to the T. I mean, we didn't mention that he was a candidate for office. I didn't endorse him.

00:06:37.860 He didn't make a plea for votes. We did everything by the book. These churches that show this are doing

00:06:44.460 everything against the law, but guess who the IRS will end up investigating? It's always Christian 1.00

00:06:51.600 conservative groups that they go after. And no question about it. And there's no outcry,

00:06:58.280 of course, from the churches, where she's very welcome, obviously. But there is the acceptance of

00:07:05.400 hypocrisy and really wrongdoing. There's no standard of integrity or ethic on the part of those churches

00:07:14.820 in which they knowingly violate the Internal Revenue Service law and the fact that it's accepted by the

00:07:21.080 IRS that the administration is in power is really not an excuse nor an acceptable rationalization of

00:07:30.540 such behavior, particularly by a church. Well, and Lou, I'm going to make a prediction to your audience

00:07:36.000 right now. And it's a prediction that is not just a prediction. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about

00:07:42.360 when I tell you this. In the next few months, I predict there is going to be explosive evidence

00:07:49.060 that comes to the public light that the Internal Revenue Service is specifically targeting conservative

00:07:55.860 groups once again, just like they did in 2013. You watch and you're going to see it happen.

00:08:03.640 How soon? I would say in the next two to three months, the evidence will come forward.

00:08:08.560 Well, that will be quite a headline, but it's a headline you made here first, and we appreciate that,

00:08:15.620 you bet. You bet. The Biden administration not only wants to be able to campaign in churches of its

00:08:23.700 choice, but also wants, obviously, mandates for almost everything, but certainly for the COVID vaccine,

00:08:30.700 another forcing employers to cover the cost of gender surgeries against moral and religious beliefs.

00:08:38.160 At what point is the Biden administration, will it be forced to withdraw, to back off,

00:08:46.320 and to end this overreach, or will it simply get worse?

00:08:51.900 You know, Lou, at some point, when I look at the Bible, when I look at God's Word, at some point,

00:08:58.160 it is going to get worse. I mean, the Bible tells us that in the final seven years of Earth's history,

00:09:03.520 before the Lord's return, there is going to be an Antichrist, a great world leader who rules with

00:09:10.060 an iron fist, and everything is a mandate. You can't speak. You can't trade. You can't do anything

00:09:17.340 without government approval. Now, let me be clear. I'm not suggesting Joe Biden is the Antichrist. One

00:09:23.540 way I know that is the Bible says the Antichrist will have much higher poll ratings than Joe Biden does,

00:09:29.320 but that's an aside there I won't get into. But I'm saying there is going to come a time when there's

00:09:35.200 a completely totalitarian government. I'm not saying this administration is it. I think this

00:09:40.500 administration is failing spectacularly. I mean, you look at the poll numbers, they're plummeting.

00:09:46.840 But I do think there is a future time coming when we're going to see these mandates. And,

00:09:51.380 you know, this gender surgery, these mandates for employers to cover the cost, that is ludicrous.

00:09:59.320 I mean, here you've got some guy prancing around in a dress up there in Washington, D.C.,

00:10:04.860 this guy who goes by the name of Rachel Levine that Biden appointed to be the assistant director

00:10:11.600 of public health. What is that all about? It is ludicrous. Again, if we follow science, God made us

00:10:19.480 either male or female. It's not male, female or question mark. I mean, gender is not a matter of

00:10:25.600 opinion. It's a matter of chromosomes. Congressman Jim Banks said that the first female four-star

00:10:32.820 admiral is, in point of fact, a man.

00:10:36.980 Yes, it's just ludicrous.

00:10:40.220 Trying to demonstrate the absurdity of it all. It's stunning what we're accepting. It's stunning what

00:10:47.760 we're permitting. And it's almost as though the country is, in some ways, in a constant fog. Up is

00:10:59.080 down. Right is wrong. We are watching things. You know, I don't know what people thought about,

00:11:05.480 you know, homosexual marriage and when that was institutionalized. But all of the warnings that we

00:11:11.480 got about what that would unleash are coming true. Yes. And it's, it's, I don't know, where does this

00:11:19.640 end? Will the, will the government have a mandate, be able to mandate who will be receiving gender

00:11:28.780 surgery? This is, this is getting to quite some level now. Well, I mean, you have situations right

00:11:37.000 now where, uh, children who go through gender confusion and why wouldn't they be confused with

00:11:42.340 all of the messaging that's coming out from the left. Uh, but, uh, there, you know, I think you're

00:11:47.940 going to see the day when, uh, children are taken away from their parents. If they try to quote

00:11:52.480 indoctrinate them about gender and that there really is such a thing as male and female. I don't think

00:11:57.900 there's any end to this, but you know, you make a great point, Lou, when you talk about, you know, we

00:12:02.360 don't know up from down. The Bible talks about people who reject a knowledge of the true God.

00:12:08.520 They became darkened in their understanding so that they believed a lie rather than the truth.

00:12:14.740 And I think that's what's happening. I think when people reject the knowledge of God and his word,

00:12:19.960 they just become absolutely clouded and misguided, confused in their thinking. And we're seeing that

00:12:26.240 in our country right now. Yeah. I occasionally think about, uh, my own, uh, particularly high school,

00:12:33.360 uh, education in which we had, uh, a church, uh, seminaries, uh, for, for Catholics, for, uh, Mormons

00:12:43.700 as well. Uh, and Protestants could do what they wanted prayer in the classroom. And all of that is no 0.84

00:12:51.640 longer required required. It is no longer permitted. And instead there is this, uh, just a tsunami

00:13:01.460 of madness that is pouring out of our TV sets. Uh, media is controlling the minds of most of these

00:13:10.120 students. And if not the media, the left-wing national media that in the school rooms, it's the

00:13:16.320 left-wing, uh, teachers and what is a program of indoctrination more than substantive education. 0.64

00:13:25.560 We're in a very, very dangerous, uh, point in time. We are Lou. And you make a great point about

00:13:32.200 our universities. I mean, most people don't know this, but 92% of our first 138 universities in this

00:13:40.620 country were started as Christian institutions. And that includes Harvard, Yale, William and Mary.

00:13:47.220 These were all Christian institutions. You'd go back to their original handbooks. They would say

00:13:52.180 our purpose is to make Jesus Christ known to our students. I mean, it's just unbelievable what you

00:13:58.960 found in those handbooks. And yet now you have Harvard hiring their first atheist chaplain. I doubt 0.96

00:14:05.120 he's going to help them find Jesus Christ. It's just madness. Uh, my alma mater has surprised me

00:14:11.680 over the decades since I graduated, but I have to say that one, uh, is, uh, that is in a class all of

00:14:19.660 its own. I can't even begin to understand it, let alone explain it. Uh, let's turn, uh, to, to the COVID

00:14:27.680 vaccine mandates and how that's been used against religion. Uh, your thoughts is, is government at least

00:14:34.860 taking a pause here because the popular will is being expressed in so many ways that mandates are

00:14:42.660 simply not the way the United States operates. You know, Lou, there is usually very little difference

00:14:49.200 or daylight between us. We may see this a little bit differently. Uh, you've allowed me to express

00:14:55.480 the view. Franklin Graham and I have both come out in favor of the vaccines. We believe that people

00:15:02.240 ought to be vaccinated if their doctor says it's okay. That, uh, I think it was one of the great

00:15:07.700 accomplishments of the Trump administration operation warp speed to make those vaccines

00:15:12.980 available in record time. And, uh, I just think, uh, uh, Joe Biden has done what's almost inconceivable

00:15:21.580 to make a gift like the vaccine, something people don't want. I mean, how do you do that? Uh, but he,

00:15:28.080 he's managed to pull that off. And frankly, I think, uh, Joe Biden would have been much more successful

00:15:34.620 in getting people vaccinated. If during his state of the union, I've not state of the union,

00:15:40.300 his inauguration address, he would have paid homage to president Trump. He would have thanked

00:15:45.680 president Trump for having the foresight to get these vaccines. You know, uh, Lou, even if he didn't

00:15:51.540 mean it in his heart, if he would have just said that, that would have brought a large segment of the

00:15:56.360 American people into the fold and encourage them to get vaccinated. I think that was a huge blunder 1.00

00:16:01.620 on his part. Uh, and it's a, his next blunder, it looks like he's being mitigated a bit because it

00:16:08.140 appears that, uh, corporate America is now saying there will be no mandate, uh, until after the

00:16:14.340 holidays, uh, they've gotten a very clear signal that many Americans do not want to take this vaccine.

00:16:20.700 Uh, and as you say, we disagreed on a very few things and, and we've done so, uh, you know,

00:16:28.260 it's who we are. We're Americans. We can disagree, right? Absolutely. The, the reality is my wife and I

00:16:35.840 are vaccinated. Uh, our, our family's vaccinated. Uh, and we're proud to have been amongst the first to

00:16:42.640 get a booster, you know, uh, because of our age that, but I have, there's nothing in me that says

00:16:50.300 I'm going to decide for somebody else, what they're going to do. Uh, I, I think everyone who wants it

00:16:56.560 should have it, uh, without question, but it's a very difficult thing now where we have, and in part,

00:17:03.920 my reasoning is this pastor, we have enough mandates of various kinds that have seeped into

00:17:09.980 our society, our free American society that I, I want everybody to remember, this is a country of

00:17:16.600 choices. We don't always make the right choice. We don't, uh, always, uh, see farther than the next

00:17:23.080 person, uh, uh, in making choices, but that when we give the American people, their will good things

00:17:32.940 happen, great things happen, things like America. And I can't defend freedom without defending

00:17:39.560 a man and woman's right not to do something, uh, that I would choose to do. How do you deal with 1.00

00:17:47.120 that? Well, first of all, I appreciate the opportunity to offer the viewpoint. And I, uh,

00:17:53.080 first of all, respect you and many in my church who share your view exactly about that. I have always

00:17:59.960 thought that this is a little bit different because it's not just about me and my choice, but what I do

00:18:06.280 has effect on other people. And, uh, you know, we do require, uh, certain vaccinations for kids to go

00:18:12.760 to school. And, uh, so I don't think it's out of the realm, uh, that, uh, it's something the government

00:18:19.660 could mandate. But again, I think the president could have made this much more, uh, uh, appealing

00:18:26.160 to people if he had done it in a different way. But I certainly respect your viewpoint, Lou, and that

00:18:31.920 of many, many Americans apparently. Yeah. You make it sound like you're surprised that many Americans

00:18:38.020 that I would agree on something. I'm never surprised, you know, to that, you know, but to

00:18:45.020 that point, uh, this is a, this is a time in which we've, we've never been this divided in my opinion.

00:18:51.880 I'm a product of the sixties, uh, and I saw a division. This, this is a new level of toxicity

00:18:59.540 and division in our country. That is very dangerous as well as dispiriting.

00:19:04.640 Oh, I think it is too. I don't think we've been as divided, you know, a crisis like we've gone

00:19:09.660 through, uh, that should have brought the American people together, but it's pushed us further apart

00:19:14.540 than ever before. And, uh, I think we're at a dangerous state in our country right now.

00:19:18.840 Yeah, I agree. And I, and I think that in that regard, uh, what my hope would be is that the

00:19:25.740 American people insist of their leaders that they be persuaded, uh, not, not, uh, coerced,

00:19:32.940 not ordered, uh, by government, but stand before the American people and, and say your piece,

00:19:40.620 uh, convince your fellow representatives in Congress, your fellow senators, uh, or in the

00:19:47.020 state assemblies and houses of representatives, uh, or senates. Uh, this is a time when people need

00:19:54.760 to be persuaded and not led like dogs, uh, uh, toward a gate they don't want to go through.

00:20:00.600 And I I'm, I'm very concerned that that default is that everybody else is an idiot. And I'm a genius,

00:20:07.580 uh, attitude, uh, on some, on the, on the part of so many, you know, if you're a Republican,

00:20:13.460 you're a fool. If you're a Democrat, you're a fool and vice versa. Uh, and some, some wag might say,

00:20:20.060 well, you're both right. But, uh, the fact of the matter is this is a time for higher and loftier

00:20:27.460 leadership, but not base coercion. That is just another step toward, in my opinion, authoritarianism

00:20:34.940 that is, that has nothing to do with this great country. Well, that's the last word on this.

00:20:39.700 Lou, I think you're absolutely right on this. And what we've got to do is push back at every place

00:20:45.440 we can against the cancel culture that wants to cancel out viewpoints that aren't popular or may

00:20:51.680 not be in keeping with the present government. I think that's the most dangerous thing approaching

00:20:56.620 America right now is this cancel culture. And one thing I appreciated about you is you're willing to

00:21:02.820 let all viewpoints be expressed. Liberals don't want to let that happen. They want to silence any

00:21:08.700 views that aren't in lockstep with their own. And, and I want to ask you too, as we, as we're

00:21:15.580 wrapping up here, uh, as we're approaching the end of the, of the podcast, uh, some say that we're

00:21:23.880 seeing without question, uh, a blatant satanic presence in all of this, uh, in which we're witnessing,

00:21:30.820 uh, bookstores carrying woke children's books, uh, a new craze, uh, anti-racist baby and teacher

00:21:38.300 dragon about diversity. Do you think those are being balanced with books that say the truth about

00:21:44.220 God, the story of Daniel, Noah's Ark, or hundreds of other great stories? No, no. And Lou, you've hit

00:21:53.480 on the real cause of what we're experiencing right now. The apostle Paul wrote in Ephesians six,

00:21:59.740 we battle not against flesh and blood, but against the power of unspiritual forces of wickedness.

00:22:05.700 It sounds like loony talk to people who don't understand a spiritual perspective,

00:22:10.740 but there is an unseen, but real spiritual battle that's going on, not only for the soul of our

00:22:16.500 country, but the souls of individuals in the country. I mean, just think about it. You had

00:22:21.600 the satanic temple objecting to the Texas abortion bill because they said, uh, abortions were a part of

00:22:28.220 their satanic ritual. And, uh, that's the kind of country, uh, we have right now where you have those

00:22:34.940 things, not only allowed, but, uh, in some corners celebrated. So this is a spiritual war that's going

00:22:41.860 on. And that's why we need to pray for America. We need to pray for every American.

00:22:48.380 And think pastor, uh, we permit, uh, this, these woke children's books, so-called they are anything

00:22:57.180 but woke, uh, uh, uh, we permit them. We're permissive, uh, but we won't step up and say,

00:23:05.820 this is not appropriate for those children. This is not appropriate. And here is our mandate,

00:23:11.900 uh, because we do not want our young people corrupted, uh, and, uh, Satan to have his way,

00:23:19.820 uh, uh, with our children and, and God almighty, uh, to be ignored. And in fact, shunned at the

00:23:27.040 bookstore, uh, we're in a time that is hard to explain. It's hard to understand. It is difficult,

00:23:36.120 difficult, uh, to accept that. That's right, Lou. And I know you're wrapping up here, but I've got to

00:23:41.900 point this out for the first 100 years of our nation's history. The new, uh, new England primer was

00:23:48.720 used in, in schools all across this country where they actually memorize scripture. They use the

00:23:54.680 acrostic from the alphabet about ABC and everyone had a scripture verse attached to it. And now you

00:24:02.000 can't mention God. You can't read the Bible. You can't pray. And I would ask your audience,

00:24:06.860 what has changed? Why is it for the first 150 years of our nation history, this was allowed and now it's

00:24:13.320 no longer allowed. Did the constitution change? Of course not. What changed is we have

00:24:18.700 allowed the liberals, the atheists, the humanists to seize control of our country, of our constitution 0.96

00:24:24.740 and pervert it into something our forefathers never intended. And the truth is it is the fear

00:24:30.980 of the Lord that is the beginning of wisdom. And until we go back to that and teaching that our nation

00:24:37.520 is going to continue to be adrift. All I can say to that is amen. And, uh, we want to, uh, to hear more

00:24:45.700 of your thinking on all of this because this, this is a time to, to lift spirits and no one does it

00:24:52.100 better than pastor Robert Jeffress. Uh, and I've asked pastor Jeffress to join us here whenever he

00:25:00.160 can. And, uh, look forward to a continuing conversation with a man who knows good, who knows

00:25:07.160 God and knows this great nation. Pastor Robert Jeffress. Thanks for being with us, Lou. It's great to be

00:25:14.020 back with you again. Thanks for having me. Thanks so much. The judicial watch organization has been at

00:25:20.160 the forefront of investigations into a host of important national issues, border security, human

00:25:27.160 smuggling, and the impact of critical race theory in our schools and the left-wing effort to replace

00:25:33.100 parents as the stewards of their children's education. Judicial watch is investigating

00:25:38.960 everything from supply chain disruptions and the irregularities of the 2020 presidential election

00:25:45.480 to the Biden family corruption. Chris Farrell is the judicial watch director of investigations and

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00:25:58.020 officer specializing in counterintelligence. He's also a distinguished fellow of the Gatestone

00:26:04.180 Institute and the author of the compelling new book, Exiled Emissary, a terrific read we recommend to you

00:26:12.220 highly. Chris Farrell, with everything that is going on in this mad country of ours right now, there is

00:26:20.500 so much that you could be investigating. Which are your priorities? A huge priority for us, of course,

00:26:26.940 is election integrity. That's a big, big issue because the American public has got a hell of a lot of

00:26:31.960 question marks in their head about how their elections are being conducted. And even if they

00:26:35.180 vote, that's great, but what about who's counting the votes, right? Another huge issue for us is Biden

00:26:40.120 corruption. Look, there should be a special counsel appointed to investigate Biden family finances and

00:26:46.560 what's going on there and the pressure and influence from outside, such as China, right? Undoubtedly.

00:26:52.480 Then we have an awful lot of people coming to us and expressing really grave concern over the

00:26:58.740 insanity that they're seeing at the local level, counties and communities and towns with all this

00:27:05.480 politicization of their kids' curriculum, whether they call it critical race theory or diversity,

00:27:12.720 inclusion, and equity, or any of the other Marxist code words. There's a lot of folks around the

00:27:18.260 country who are really fired up about what kind of garbage is being pumped into their kids' heads.

00:27:23.980 That garbage has been pumped at ever-increasing rates here in the last number of years. But critical

00:27:32.400 race theory, it's getting worse. The issues are ever, ever more complicated. And the left-wing

00:27:41.140 national media is absent, if not complicit.

00:27:44.900 And then the other part of that equation is you have Merrick Garland, our illustrious attorney

00:27:52.180 general, hand in glove with a lefty school board association, launching the Department of Justice

00:28:00.360 and the FBI against parents who only want to go to a school board and confront these bureaucrats of the

00:28:10.900 education aristocracy, the mandarins who control curriculum, and trying to suppress parents from

00:28:17.840 expressing their point of view and trying to criminalize it. This is parallel to Obama using

00:28:25.080 the IRS to go after the Tea Party movement and try to criminalize them. And now you have the Biden

00:28:32.020 administration and Merrick Garland, you know, having this chilling effect by essentially criminalizing,

00:28:39.380 or at least calling suspects, parents who want to get involved at the local school board level,

00:28:46.740 and saying the FBI is going to investigate. This is really sick, sick stuff.

00:28:51.140 It is sick. It is perverse. It is also unconscionable. And, obviously, by design,

00:28:59.220 this is an effort on the part of the fascist left of this country. It's not just simply the radical

00:29:04.980 Dems or the deep state. This is a committed ideology that is actively, actively trying to intimidate American

00:29:14.580 citizens, whether they be members of the U.S. Supreme Court or parents of children who have been exposed to the

00:29:22.420 corruption and the ignorance of CRT, or the threats of the FBI and the U.S. Justice Department against them,

00:29:33.780 serving notice that they will construe what their activities, their complaints about the school board and the

00:29:42.820 education system as domestic terrorism, for crying out loud. We are in a new place, Chris Farrell.

00:29:50.900 We are. And, you know, it keeps going. I mean, this is a, the ideology you reference isn't just on a

00:29:57.860 couple of hot button issues. It's uniform, and it's, it's monolithic. And what I'll point to

00:30:04.900 is even the approach, the mentality, the political philosophy behind issuing a mandate on vaccines,

00:30:15.700 okay? And they're taking a healthcare question, a legitimate, you know, treatment and sort of a

00:30:24.100 prophylactic measure that can be discussed and debated. It can be an individual choice or decision.

00:30:30.100 They love talking about a woman and her doctor, or how about me and my doctor, right? They're all for choice, 0.88

00:30:37.060 except when it comes to what they want to do. Then they want to jam vaccines down everybody's

00:30:41.780 throats. And they're, they're talking about firing all federal employees who don't take the shot.

00:30:49.140 That includes, you know, special agents and homeland security. It includes military members,

00:30:55.540 some very highly trained, specialized folks in the, those sort of tier one units, like,

00:31:02.100 like the SEALs and Delta. I mean, they're going to, they're going to throw these people out or put

00:31:06.980 them in a box and not let them do their job. This, this is a monolithic mentality where everything is

00:31:13.620 either mandatory or forbidden, and it's the left's specialty.

00:31:17.780 They are trying, they being the fascist left in this country, and they are not led by Joe Biden,

00:31:25.540 but represented by him. He is the face of that fascist left.

00:31:30.260 He's their sock puppet. I mean, he's an empty suit. The guy's not even mentally with it,

00:31:34.820 and they just use him as a, as a prop.

00:31:37.060 It's amazing to see that the country watching this unfold. He has a 42% approval rating,

00:31:46.900 a 42% approval rating, 71% of the country, according to the Chuck Todd NBC left-wing

00:31:55.140 polling, this is their poll. 71% understand the country's going in the wrong direction.

00:32:01.940 Now I don't know what, what that 29% is holding on to, other than apparently their ideology 0.95

00:32:08.740 and the hope that they can destroy America. This is a time of great peril. And there is a,

00:32:16.020 there is no countervailing influence, not corporate America, not unions. None of the institutions that

00:32:22.580 we've typically been able to depend upon to assure free speech. That is our public school systems,

00:32:29.380 our universities and colleges. They are left-wing ideologues indoctrinating before they can even

00:32:36.660 begin to discuss educating our young people. I think the 42% number is high, frankly. I think 0.74

00:32:43.060 the real number is down in the twenties or thirties. The reason I say that is because,

00:32:48.900 look, it doesn't take some great political scientists or some, you know, media guru to look

00:32:54.020 at the highest inflation in 10 years, the highest gas prices in eight years. You know, back in August,

00:33:01.860 the number was 4.3 million people walked away from their jobs. You know, when you, the inflation rate,

00:33:09.860 when you go to the grocery store and you see the cost of milk, you know, jumping by 50%, when gasoline,

00:33:17.940 where I am is, you know, four and some change. I have a family in California. I don't know. I mean,

00:33:25.940 you must have to take out a mortgage to fill up your car in California. I mean, this is something

00:33:32.980 that affects every single American, regardless of political party or affiliation. And so the 42,

00:33:38.900 I think is more like 25. Well, and, and when you talk about the inflation rate, listen, listen to this,

00:33:44.980 this is from a friend of mine this morning who was telling me about discovering on his receipt,

00:33:51.620 he went down to the paint store, bought paint. And there on his receipt was a 4% charge added a 4% quote,

00:34:02.340 supply chain charge. He asked the clerk about it. And he said, what is, what's for the

00:34:08.580 supply chain? It's a, it's, he was told by the clerk, it's something that the company's higher

00:34:16.820 ups added on like a tax quote, unquote, like a tax. And that apparently is happening in lots of places

00:34:26.580 and lots of businesses. So look at your receipts folks, because now there's such a thing as a supply

00:34:32.740 chain charge. Uh, and that's what we're facing, uh, when business right now, business is passing

00:34:40.180 along these charges. We're, we are watching stealth inflation. We've got enough obvious and direct

00:34:46.580 inflation, runaway inflation without this nonsense starting. Well, you know, I, I believe that there

00:34:52.020 are legitimate, uh, supply chain, uh, sort of choke points or inefficiencies that exist out there.

00:34:58.740 But frankly, you know, another part of me thinks that there are other folks who are actually thrilled

00:35:03.940 that this whole supply chain thing, you know, they view as another opportunity, uh, to leverage

00:35:09.460 and to rip off and to, uh, create additional sort of pressure points in the economy where they can

00:35:16.660 exert their influence. And, uh, I, I, there's a legitimate part of it. That's just, you know, workers and

00:35:23.300 access to ports and trucking, et cetera. But there's another part of it. I think that I believe

00:35:28.900 is being deliberately manipulated in an effort to advance either personal profit or political

00:35:34.420 leverage. Yeah. And I think it's called price gouging in many cases, far too many cases, Chris,

00:35:40.420 we know, for example, in the lumber shortage, it resulted in 40, 60% hikes and prices, uh, over the

00:35:46.820 spring through, uh, much of the summer that the lumber industry was holding back those shipments.

00:35:52.580 Uh, and I'm talking about principally in Canada, we were, we were watching those stockpiles at the,

00:35:59.380 uh, wholesale level, just build and not move into the retail, uh, sector, which of course stopped

00:36:08.580 homes from being sold and, and finished. Uh, we, we, we're watching the same thing with containers,

00:36:14.820 shipments of goods for the holiday shopping season. At one point, a record 68 ships in Long

00:36:21.220 Beach Harbor, the principal, the principal port for Asian exports to the United States, 68 ships lined up

00:36:28.980 an all time record. And it only occurred to the Biden administration in October that maybe we should

00:36:36.900 work 24 seven to unload those ships. This is, this is, there are no accidents here. This disruption

00:36:44.580 in our economy, the supply chain, uh, is no accident. And it's why the American people right

00:36:50.900 now are looking at six month delays to buy a vehicle, to buy a, uh, whatever the appliance

00:36:58.420 furniture is a big backlog too. Yeah. Yeah. I love the interviews. In fact, this, you're inspiring me.

00:37:04.260 I think I'm going to interview some longshoremen. I think I'm going to go to the longshoremen's union

00:37:09.060 and talk to them about some of their observations as to how this is being handled at the, you know,

00:37:14.100 at the dock. Well, what's going on as well. We've got the, the entire democratic party,

00:37:20.180 it seems focused on two things that is preserving, uh, critical race theory in our public schools.

00:37:27.940 And at the same time, uh, trying to put people who've been detained in some instances,

00:37:34.820 nine months because they were present at on January 6th in Washington DC, whether they committed a crime

00:37:43.380 or not, uh, your thoughts about the energies that the democratic party is spending on those issues

00:37:51.700 versus actually serving the national interest. Well, per usual, uh, we can find no further examples

00:37:59.220 of schizophrenia. So we're supposed to believe that January 6th and the disturbance on the,

00:38:05.460 at the Capitol was supposed to be as bad as the American civil war or Pearl Harbor or any number of

00:38:13.140 other, uh, you know, really historic tragedies in the, in the nation's history. Uh, now you're,

00:38:20.660 you're never going to hear me endorse and celebrate January 6th. Obviously the whole thing got out of hand

00:38:27.860 and, uh, but it, but it was not Pearl Harbor, a newsflash for Nancy Pelosi and company. Um,

00:38:35.300 so let's get some perspective. Let's put it, put it where it needs to be with a long historical view.

00:38:41.700 And then secondly, let's examine the actual record. Let's look at the legal record of what's happening

00:38:47.380 in the U S district courts, the district of Columbia. And there you see people being charged with

00:38:53.060 unlawful assembly and parading and no one's been charged with quote unquote insurrection.

00:39:01.060 No one's been charged with sedition. No one's been charged with all these, you know, there's a lot of

00:39:06.580 reckless language being thrown around by the left in an effort to really paint their political opposition

00:39:12.900 as criminals and terrorists. And the facts are quite different. The facts are while there were some

00:39:18.900 violent people who smashed some things and, and, you know, unlawfully entered certain spaces.

00:39:24.180 A lot of other people were simply walking around doing nothing. And the fact that they're being held

00:39:28.660 in jail for months and months on end in conditions that have been reported as being in really something

00:39:35.140 out of the gulag. I mean, it's crazy, you know, 23 hours. How many people do you believe have been

00:39:41.060 detained who were just there walking around, as you put it, demonstrating, uh, uh, cheering on the

00:39:48.900 Republic and, and Donald Trump, not trying to seize the U S Capitol. Yeah. I don't have a hard number,

00:39:54.980 but I mean, it's hundreds, right? We know it's hundreds of people and there were folks running

00:39:59.140 around, you know, scouring the internet, trying to find pictures of people and to, to turn them in,

00:40:05.140 in, in, in wonderful sort of East German Stasi style of, you know, uh, Hey, my neighbor walked 0.77

00:40:10.980 around the Capitol for 20 minutes. Therefore he's a terrorist. I mean, it's just, again, it's

00:40:16.260 perspective and it's discretion. And, uh, the, none of it's being used appropriately.

00:40:25.460 Let me say it, if I can put it in, uh, forgive me for using Texas terms,

00:40:29.620 but I just want the hard rock truth here. I want to know the facts. And if somebody committed a crime,

00:40:38.340 I want them to go to jail. It's that straightforward. I don't want a single American 1.00

00:40:43.380 held in a, in jail over ridiculous charges that don't rise to the level of the radical fascist left,

00:40:53.700 uh, uh, rhetoric that is being spewed. And I expect the FBI by God to investigate and come

00:41:02.420 to a conclusion that they test in court and to do so in a speedy manner. What they're doing is Soviet 0.98

00:41:09.540 to hold people without charges are with trumped up charges is unconscionable. And the Republican party,

00:41:17.060 by the way, in my opinion, I'm not going to just leave this at the feet of the Democrats.

00:41:21.540 Where in the hell is the fundraising and the concern of the Republican party to go in there

00:41:28.260 and find out what's going on and be representing those people there. This should be happening now.

00:41:33.540 It should know it should have been happening months ago. Correct. Immediately. And there's this

00:41:39.940 ability to just in this country, suddenly to numb everyone's senses and not care that a fellow citizen

00:41:46.500 is sitting in a jail somewhere with ridiculous misdemeanor charges against him or her.

00:41:54.660 This is outrageous on so many levels. It is particularly when he put it in perspective

00:41:59.940 of the lunatics out in Portland, the Antifa type crowd who spent 270 days attacking the federal

00:42:08.580 courthouse. They're trying to burn it to the ground. And, uh, and those people, you know,

00:42:14.500 they walk away with nothing. And they know who they are. They know who the groups are. They know

00:42:18.980 who the, the ringleaders are out there. And you don't see, I mean, the disparity in treatment

00:42:24.740 is what makes people crazy. When you see people for 270 nights attacking a federal courthouse

00:42:31.460 and it's all, oh, well, that's just the way it goes. Or to quote, you know, Nancy Pelosi,

00:42:36.500 people are going to do what people are going to do. That was her quote on that. And you flip it around

00:42:41.460 and you look at a couple of hours of, uh, you know, a lot of it, certainly there was violent

00:42:48.820 behavior by some, and like you said, they should all be prosecuted, but a lot of other people were

00:42:53.140 just kind of wandering around and then left. And they're not a threat to the Republic or a danger

00:42:58.820 to the community in any sense of the word. Well, no investigation that's been shared with the American

00:43:04.740 people. All sorts of video has been, uh, withheld from public view. Uh, this is an unconscionable

00:43:12.340 act on the part of the Democrats. It's an unconscionable acceptance of outrageous on American

00:43:18.340 acts by those Democrats, by the Republican party. As for the government itself, the justice department

00:43:25.780 is where truth goes to die. It is not where justice is served. Uh, as we learn with every passing week,

00:43:33.460 it seems in this country, much to our shame. I wanted to ask you about something we've talked

00:43:38.340 about for a very long time. And Donald Trump the other day was talking about 10 million illegal

00:43:44.820 immigrants in this country over the last few years. Now we know that there's a possibility, 1.00

00:43:51.700 a very real possibility that the numbers are being understated and that there are factors when people

00:43:57.460 are apprehended at the border that the border patrol uses to multiply, to get a good

00:44:03.140 idea of how many people actually penetrated that border and, and safely got to wherever they were

00:44:09.220 going inside the United States of America. They have a lot of help, don't they? From the Biden

00:44:13.940 administration right now, 2 million illegal immigrants are estimated to cross that border.

00:44:19.860 And whether the factor you use is three or seven, whatever it is, we know there are millions of people

00:44:26.420 in this country right now without lawful reason and who should not be permitted in this country.

00:44:35.540 What can be done in your opinion, given this administration, its policies, which are wide

00:44:42.340 open borders and more illegal immigrants are to be incentivized to come into the country?

00:44:49.140 Well, like you said, you get more of what you incentivize or what you subsidize.

00:44:54.020 It's a rule, an economic rule, and it's a political rule. And so the Biden administration has zero interest

00:45:01.220 in any law enforcement. In fact, on October 27th, a short while ago, Mayorkas, the Homeland Security

00:45:08.740 Secretary, put out a memo outlawing five additional zones or areas that he says are forbidden

00:45:15.700 for ICE agents to conduct any law enforcement activities. And it's places like any kind of school,

00:45:23.220 right? Any kind of university school, trade school, anything. No school. They can't operate

00:45:28.740 near a school. They can't operate in any sort of medical facility, clinic or hospital. They can't operate

00:45:34.740 near or around any sort of church or religious organization. There's a list. There's five different

00:45:40.660 zones or areas that Mayorkas has forbidden ICE to conduct any type of law enforcement activities at

00:45:46.820 all, period. Even social services, right? So I mean, this is another example of them,

00:45:56.260 the Biden administration, Mayorkas in particular, prohibiting law enforcement from carrying out their

00:46:02.180 duties. So if you think it's bad now, and there's millions of people in the country that we have no

00:46:06.580 idea who they are, where they are, what they're doing, no accountability. It's only going to get

00:46:12.020 worse. So where do the American people turn, Chris? Because what we're looking at is a Republican

00:46:19.700 party that has permitted this during even the Trump administration. They fought him on the wall. They

00:46:25.540 fought him on the Mexico remain policy. They fought him as he wanted to take on the drug cartels

00:46:31.460 that are responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths of American citizens with their illegal 0.82

00:46:38.260 drugs, with their trafficking. And now we have a man who not only is permissive, but we have a man who

00:46:47.940 is inviting further disaster, illegality, more deaths, and more illegal immigrants into the country. 1.00

00:46:57.700 And he's a booster for the Mexican drug cartels. Correct. Yeah. So the solution, I think,

00:47:04.660 is going to end up being, once again, at the local level. So you're going to find,

00:47:08.340 in some cases, a couple of courageous governors will do the right thing to reinforce or enhance

00:47:13.540 law enforcement along the border. But I think it also ends up being communities around the country,

00:47:18.260 because the border, the border's vanished, right? There is no real border. The border

00:47:24.260 is in Iowa. The border is in Northern New Jersey. The border is in, because that's where the people

00:47:31.780 that are crossing the border go to for jobs, right? And that's where these, essentially,

00:47:36.900 these illegal alien communities, these pockets resettle at a community level where it's really 0.73

00:47:45.460 up to local people and local law enforcement to create conditions that make it difficult for them to

00:47:51.060 operate. And there's going to be a hell of a lot of litigation about it, because every left-wing

00:47:55.220 group in the world is going to come in. And where a local community says, look, we're not going to

00:47:59.460 have day labor center in our community. We're going to outlaw that. We don't want to subsidize criminal

00:48:04.740 activity. I guarantee you, you know, all the usual cast of characters on the left will come in and

00:48:09.780 litigate to explain how the sheriff or how the county commission can't deny these people work.

00:48:17.780 It's going to be a fight in the trenches. It's going to be a slug it out legal battle.

00:48:23.380 But I think it really comes down to local communities simply saying, no, not here.

00:48:28.340 You want to do this? Great. Go to California, go to New York, but you're not going to do it

00:48:33.300 in our community. We also have a pretty good idea, too, though, Chris, just how that's worked out.

00:48:40.340 The Republicans hide behind those lawsuits. They don't have to do anything. They wait for the lawsuit to

00:48:46.580 die. They wait for the issue to die, for the people to move on. And the Republican Party is

00:48:56.980 what's really surprising, I think, to many people is a Republican Party is serving a corporate class

00:49:02.980 that it that no longer gives a damn about Republicans. And it's the Chamber of Commerce.

00:49:09.060 Yeah, the Chamber of Commerce. The Chamber of Commerce already owns them. And the Chamber of Commerce,

00:49:15.620 and you look across the Republican Party and Congress or the Senate, they do the bidding of

00:49:20.340 the Chamber of Commerce and the Business Roundtable without so much as a question mark about what's in

00:49:27.780 it for me. They don't care anymore, the corporate community, because they're aligned with the left.

00:49:35.780 They're all about open borders. They're all about those illegal immigrants and that cheap labor that's 1.00

00:49:41.460 being brought into the country across that southern border. It's outrageous. And the American people

00:49:47.220 have only one place where they can control their lives, and that's at the local level.

00:49:53.060 And guess what? The Biden administration is trying to destroy even that level of control and influence

00:49:59.700 at the community level by shipping in tens of thousands of illegal immigrants in the dark of 0.81

00:50:05.380 night to inhabit those communities, those towns, those cities across the country without so much as a

00:50:14.180 without even so much as a squeak from the local authorities in many cases, but most of course,

00:50:21.220 particularly in blue states. Your thoughts about where we're headed right now for this election,

00:50:30.900 upcoming 2022, how important Donald Trump is?

00:50:34.660 Now, I mean, with the point you just made about flying in Westchester County, New York, just above New

00:50:40.980 York City, you know, there's midnight flights of illegal aliens being brought in

00:50:45.620 to, you know, a high dollar suburb of New York City. And it's just another effort to infiltrate

00:50:53.460 people where they would otherwise, you know, be sort of obvious or objected to, or at least there'd be

00:50:59.140 a discussion about, hey, what are we doing? Because look, the local community always has to eat the costs.

00:51:04.420 Housing, education, health care, all the services the local community always ends up eating,

00:51:11.460 despite all kinds of platitudes from the federal government. So, like you said,

00:51:15.220 it's always a local issue. With regard to the election, you know, there's a wonderful,

00:51:21.620 President Trump's future plans and the ambiguity surrounding that, whether he decides to run or not,

00:51:28.660 gives him an enormous amount of power, a lot of juice, right? Because the left, he's the boogeyman

00:51:34.340 of the left. They choose to blame him for everything. They're blaming Biden.

00:51:37.940 When Biden collapses, Biden idiotic decisions, they're still trying to blame on Trump. And as

00:51:45.220 long as the former president is out there sort of flirting with the future, he has tremendous

00:51:51.060 political power and authority because he's still, despite the conventional kind of, you know,

00:51:57.140 the mainstream establishment Republican orthodoxy, he still has all the power, all the attention,

00:52:04.500 and that makes them crazy. He has the potential, I believe, to have an immense impact on 2022,

00:52:13.140 depending on what he chooses to do and how he chooses to do it. Relitigating the election right

00:52:18.900 now, 2020, from his vantage point, I don't know if that is effective. He's, I think, right about much of

00:52:28.420 what he says. We can say that there are sufficient incidences of fraud, that there needs to be an

00:52:36.500 investigation, if you will, into why the federal government did not investigate that fraud. Now,

00:52:42.820 we don't know if that fraud rises to the level of having overturned or reversed a legitimate election,

00:52:49.780 but we do know that there is enough evidence to raise the question. And that question exists in the

00:52:55.540 millions of people's minds, including mine, and we deserve answers. What we got was a pat on the

00:53:04.580 head and told to go away. We're not going to bother with your pitiful little questions about what

00:53:10.740 happened in Wayne County or in Pennsylvania. We don't know if they were indeed enough, if there was

00:53:18.020 enough skullduggery to change the outcome, but we do know that the outcome is not what was reported

00:53:24.180 because there was fraud of various types, and we deserve answers. And those answers were denied

00:53:31.220 because the federal government, and in particular, William Barr, the Attorney General, refused to

00:53:38.100 investigate any of those incidents. But isn't it interesting that Merrick Garland is quite willing

00:53:44.020 to investigate a school board for alleged but not proved threats against that school board by parents,

00:53:52.980 discussing, among other things, critical race theory? Or Anthony Blinken at the State Department

00:54:01.060 inviting in foreigners to audit our elections and to give us an inspection in our human rights

00:54:08.340 history. I mean, the idea that Blinken is at the UN, inviting them in to conduct audits and inspections,

00:54:16.020 and you talk about insulting, where you have the Chinese, you're going to come in and have 0.96

00:54:19.140 them audit our election. That's what he's asking for. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't show up at

00:54:25.300 Disney World or Disneyland, as they did in China, to put 34,000 guests to hold them until they could be

00:54:35.860 tested for COVID. The Chinese way, you know, they're just like us. They're basically nice people and would

00:54:44.420 never be coercive and totalitarian, these communists. Chris Farrell, it is, you get the last word here.

00:54:52.180 It's been a delight speaking with you, and I look forward to our next discussion. You get the last

00:54:56.740 word. Great to be with you, Lou. Thank you so much to be on your show again. And, you know, as grim as it

00:55:03.140 is, we are to never lose hope. Never, ever lose hope. There's a lot of stuff we can talk about that

00:55:08.980 that is more than disturbing. It's actually, you know, verges on terrifying. But we bring these

00:55:17.060 things up when we talk about them to force accountability, and that's what Judicial Watch

00:55:21.780 is all about. You know, we hold the government accountable. We get government records and documents,

00:55:26.820 and we make them public so that you have an informed opinion, and you have actual records and

00:55:32.660 government documents to look at so that you're not guessing. You're not wondering. You have real evidence

00:55:37.700 that you can use to explain why you believe what you believe. Chris Farrell. Again, thank you. Chris Farrell

00:55:44.180 with us today, Director of Investigations and Research for Judicial Watch. Chris, thanks so much.

00:55:51.220 Thank you, Lou. Join us again tomorrow for the Great America Podcast. Stay in the fight. Truth,

00:55:57.300 justice, and the American way will prevail against all enemies, against all odds.

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