The Great America Show - ATTY KURT OLSEN BELIEVES THESE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS MAY BE A PLOY TO PUSH BIDEN OUT BECAUSE HIS UTILITY FOR THE DEMS IS AT AN END

00:00:00.000 Hello everybody, I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to the Great America Show. Good to have you with us.

00:00:05.020 Big news as the week wraps up. About now, President Biden may be looking for a new bunker

00:00:11.120 to hide out in. Attorney General Merrick Garland has appointed a special prosecutor

00:00:16.780 to investigate why President Biden had taken highly classified documents from the executive

00:00:23.100 building and why, as vice president, he would have those documents in his possession now.

00:00:30.000 Authorities have found more classified documents in his possession, and the Marxist

00:00:35.000 and deep staters who inhabit the Washington, D.C. environs, well, they're understandably

00:00:41.140 somewhat shaken. And of course, the national corporate Marxist media as well.

00:00:47.020 We found out yesterday the Biden White House has known about the discovery of these classified

00:00:52.700 documents in his possession for more than two months. And yesterday came the announcement

00:00:58.200 that more classified documents had been found at two locations in his home in Wilmington,

00:01:04.260 Delaware, in his library and in his garage. That's right, garage. Attorney General Merrick Garland

00:01:12.160 is now appointed a special counsel to investigate Joe Biden's possession of those documents.

00:01:17.940 House Republicans immediately called on the FBI and intelligence agencies to make assessments

00:01:24.660 on any possible damage that may have resulted from the breach in national security.

00:01:30.800 Our guest today is a well-known conservative Republican attorney. He's represented President Trump,

00:01:36.560 Mike Lindell, and is now representing GOP candidate for governor of Arizona, Carrie Lake. With us,

00:01:43.360 Washington attorney Kurt Olson, a great American. Kurt, great of you to join us, and thank you.

00:01:49.540 The contrast of the way the media, the national left-wing media, is protecting President Biden

00:01:54.720 and the way they cheered the Marxist Dems' assault on President Trump is vivid, isn't it? Your reaction?

00:02:01.200 Well, it's actually, I mean, obviously, the double standard that is being applied right now is shocking,

00:02:10.940 to say the least, of course. But there are significant differences between the discoveries

00:02:16.960 with now President Biden and former President Trump. If you recall, President Trump had a skiff

00:02:24.240 at Mar-a-Lago. So the documents that were delivered to him by the GSA and the National Archives,

00:02:31.080 which were boxed up and sent to him, he has also said that he declassified them, which,

00:02:36.000 of course, the president has the sole capability, not the vice president, not the secretary of state,

00:02:41.820 not the CIA director, but the president has the authority to declassify any document,

00:02:47.420 and the president has said he did that. So there's not even an issue with classified documents being kept

00:02:53.800 at Mar-a-Lago. And further, when you see what the then vice president has done with these documents,

00:03:02.600 he can't declassify them. Why are they there? What are they about? I mean, you can, I'm sure you may

00:03:09.120 recall there was a sailor in the Navy who took a selfie picture in a submarine. And simply because

00:03:17.160 there were some components from that sub in the background, he was sent to jail for several years

00:03:22.280 until I believe President Trump pardoned him. And so this story is only going to get bigger.

00:03:30.520 It appears that there is a little bit of an agenda behind this. I think the first report was that

00:03:37.060 these documents were discovered before the midterms, while some personal attorneys of President

00:03:42.480 Biden were rummaging through a closet at the Penn Biden Center and uncovered them. And so now it appears

00:03:49.320 that, like I said, the story is just getting bigger and bigger as we go on. The coincidences and the

00:03:58.600 awkward and difficult to explain circumstances are compounding themselves. As you say, found on the

00:04:07.380 second, the archives were called on the third, turned over on the fourth. The Justice Department,

00:04:15.940 presumably the White House, notified at that point. And we have to believe that on the second,

00:04:22.840 the president's attorneys just happened to be in that area with a locked closet, discovering these

00:04:28.260 documents and following through. But at the same time, knowing all of that, they knew that there was a

00:04:36.920 high probability that there would be other documents. They didn't disclose any of this to the White House

00:04:42.140 Press Corps. They didn't disclose it to the American public. They, in point of fact, lied with their

00:04:48.440 silence on this issue, didn't they?

00:04:50.820 Yes, they did. And I think as President Trump posted on Truth the other day, when are the FBI raids going to

00:04:57.660 commence on all of the President Biden's houses to find out where these other, any other documents might

00:05:04.200 exist? Yeah, he had a great comment, which was, when asked by Peter Doocy about these documents,

00:05:16.040 he said, well, they were perfect, you know, to the effect that they were perfectly secure because

00:05:20.900 those documents were in the same garage as his Corvette, which was all locked up. I mean, you can't

00:05:27.520 make this kind of nonsense up. This is a, we knew he was impaired. We knew full well that his family

00:05:35.460 had shady business dealings of which he was a part. We know all of this because we have seen the

00:05:41.760 evidence, we've heard the evidence, and yet, and we have the Attorney General of the United States,

00:05:48.920 Bill Barr, acknowledging that he knew Biden was lying as a candidate for president when he stood

00:05:55.340 on that debate stage and lied about Russian disinformation. And we are now going to pretend

00:06:03.160 that somehow these documents, highly classified in three locations, it was fun today to watch,

00:06:10.540 for me at least, to watch the various anchors of the news networks contort themselves, twist themselves

00:06:18.500 up, trying to defend President Biden in the face of these new discoveries, trying to explain, well,

00:06:24.780 it's a special counsel investigation of documents, not the president himself. I mean, the collective IQ

00:06:33.120 of news anchors in this country is not, well, nosebleed high, I'll put it that way.

00:06:41.460 Yeah, well, it is going to be, I mean, interesting in terms of what do these documents relate to? Do they

00:06:48.600 relate to Ukraine and his son's involvement with Burisma being paid $83,000 a month for a no-show

00:06:56.840 job in an energy company of which he has no expertise? Does it relate to the fact that then

00:07:03.480 Vice President Biden threatened Ukrainian leadership with withholding one point, I think it was $1.5

00:07:10.560 billion in funds if they didn't fire the prosecutor that was investigating Burisma? So I think there's,

00:07:17.300 there's going to be, it'll be very interesting to see if they disclose the subject matter of these

00:07:22.360 classified documents. I think the last I heard was that they don't involve nuclear codes, unlike

00:07:27.840 supposedly the documents discovered at the, at Mar-a-Lago, which I think even then they have

00:07:35.460 walked that back as well. But it's interesting excuses being made. Yeah, the FBI could no longer

00:07:41.460 make claims like that, even as unidentified sources with a straight face. And you mentioned Ukraine,

00:07:49.800 that apparently is part of the subject matter on these classified documents. And of course,

00:07:57.800 now we need to understand better why Biden in 2021 chose to go just after the, just before the

00:08:07.780 inauguration, fly to Ukraine to do business. And the State Department was trying to come up with

00:08:13.920 excuses for it, as were his, his staff. What do you make of that? So I think when you see something like

00:08:25.500 that, you start to appreciate the longstanding ties between government officials and Ukraine.

00:08:31.740 And the more that is coming out with visits like that, with FTX, the money laundering operation through

00:08:41.220 cryptocurrency that is now being looked into, and I think the charges have been brought. So the Ukrainian 1.00

00:08:50.880 situation is blowing up in a number of ways, not just with respect to the hundred or so billion dollars of

00:09:01.740 aid that the U.S. has been pumping in there with no accountability, but with respect to the absolute

00:09:09.200 corruption that goes on with the Ukrainian government and U.S. government officials.

00:09:16.660 The idea is that, look, there is likely a cover-up that's going on, and that's why he's there.

00:09:23.260 It is, it's going to be a fascinating few months here, I believe. I don't believe this is going to go as

00:09:30.680 long as some previous special counsels, because the, the, the fundamental, the foundation for this

00:09:38.940 investigation now is so broad, so, so compelling. I think the answers are going to be somewhat

00:09:45.580 straightforward, even in a case as complex as what this appears to be. Kurt, I want to turn to the

00:09:51.380 content of those documents, which include intel memos on Iran. This is according to the reporting of the

00:09:59.960 New York Post, Ukraine, and Iran as well, and all apparently marked as with the highest, with the

00:10:10.680 highest classified designation. Your reaction to the content of those memoranda, given that the vice

00:10:20.720 president wasn't authorized to have them in his possession at all? Well, I think when you look at the

00:10:26.500 overall context of President Biden's dealings in Ukraine, his son's dealings in Ukraine, the issues

00:10:34.800 that have come up with, as we discussed earlier, then Vice President Biden threatening to withhold aid

00:10:41.860 if a prosecutor, Ukrainian prosecutor, who was investigating the company that his son was making

00:10:47.560 $83,000 a month on. And then you look at further ties that Hunter Biden has, it's been reported of his

00:10:57.340 ties with a company called Metabiota in Ukraine. I'm not sure if you're familiar with that, but dealing

00:11:03.220 with the bioweapons labs that were over in Ukraine, with which the U.S. government was also funding

00:11:10.060 through the Pentagon. And so when you put the classification of these documents and the subject

00:11:19.800 matter in the context of President Biden and then Vice President Biden's dealings, his son's dealings

00:11:27.260 with Ukraine and other countries in that area with Iran and so forth, it is, to say it's concerning

00:11:36.840 would be an understatement. But this is more than simply classified information about sources and

00:11:44.160 methods about geopolitical events. The very dealings of the Bidens in Ukraine raise an issue as to the

00:11:53.320 significance of these classified materials and whether it shows wrongdoing, conflict of interest,

00:12:01.500 whatever you want to call it. And so we all know that the government classifies everything

00:12:06.120 or overclassifies everything. And given the history that the Bidens have in Ukraine,

00:12:15.220 and frankly, other politicians, such as Nancy Pelosi's son, I hope that these documents are

00:12:26.460 declassified and disclosed to the public, and they should be.

00:12:28.760 We know now not only that there are three locations, but the questions now abound. Why were those

00:12:35.880 documents in three different locations? How could they be there in the possession of a vice president

00:12:42.800 who would have had to absolutely consciously take them from government offices? And people,

00:12:51.180 as you say, President Trump has a skiff at his Mar-a-Lago home. This president has a green Corvette

00:13:01.940 in his garage. This is nonsense. And the left-wing media, which by the way, I think now, the left-wing

00:13:09.560 media, it's pretty clear there's another area for investigation. The left-wing media in this country,

00:13:15.220 corporate-owned, corporate-driven. And, you know, it's as weaponized as any part of the federal

00:13:24.080 government. We need to have an investigation when we look at what is happening in this country.

00:13:29.960 Yeah, I mean, I think it's significant that, again, the Bidens had financial interests in Ukraine.

00:13:36.960 Are these documents, were they kept or taken from their secure facility to be sitting in his garage

00:13:44.100 because they contained embarrassing or unlawful illegal information about illegal activity?

00:13:51.340 I mean, I'm sure you remember, you know, when Sandy Berger, Clinton's former NSA, he was caught,

00:13:56.680 you know, going into the National Archives and stuffing classified documents down his pants

00:14:02.160 regarding 9-11 and then-President Clinton's failures with respect to going after Osama bin Laden.

00:14:11.260 And so there's a host of issues that are solely and directly the consequence of the Bidens having

00:14:19.620 financial dealings with Ukraine and not insignificant sums. And do these classified documents

00:14:29.060 relate to those financial dealings? And were they taken from a secure facility to be hidden,

00:14:36.420 for example? Which is what Sandy Berger did. And by the way, we should point out Sandy Berger was

00:14:42.780 not held to account. He was not in any way punished for what was clearly a conscious criminal act to

00:14:49.100 take those documents from the archives. He stuffed them down his pants. Well, it's like you can't make

00:14:56.600 this up. Exactly. And although I'm going to add to the story, there was some rumor that he also was

00:15:03.080 stuffing them down as socks as well. So as we look at what's happening here, three different locations,

00:15:11.100 what is going on, and why in the world did they not speak to the public about an issue that they knew

00:15:18.340 was going to blow up two and a half months ago? This is an administration in deep, deep trouble.

00:15:26.840 And I'm going to say this out loud. This is an administration that went after a preceding

00:15:36.720 president and was so willful, so ignorant, and so just simply vicious in their treatment of President

00:15:45.880 Trump. Right now, I will say it out loud, this president deserves whatever he gets. And everyone

00:15:52.380 in his administration who has been any part of the conscious evil that has been done to the Republic

00:15:58.940 by this administration deserves just as much, if not more. Your thoughts? Well, nothing surprises me

00:16:09.700 anymore. And so it would not surprise me that given the new committees that the House is going to bring

00:16:17.380 to bear to investigate the president, to investigate federal government abuses, the weaponization of

00:16:23.580 the federal government, that which happened largely under the Obama administration, which included,

00:16:30.980 obviously, Vice President Biden, that there could be an effort to push President Biden out with this

00:16:39.780 controversy and then to use that to say that, well, we're going to hold President Trump to the same

00:16:46.720 standard. In other words, that this is being used as a pretext, almost like a twofer. So you get Vice

00:16:52.680 President or President Biden out, then you say, well, we've got to hold President Trump to the same

00:16:56.840 standard, when in fact, there is no comparison, because President Trump had sole authority to

00:17:02.720 declassify any of these documents. He has said he did that. These documents were shipped to him by the

00:17:09.000 National Archives and held in a skip. So there is absolutely no comparison. But on the surface,

00:17:15.620 I could see many, many iterations of how this could play out.

00:17:22.580 Well, certainly the Marxist Dems are capable of such Machiavellian stratagems. But there is now a new,

00:17:31.580 a new Congress with considerable power in place. And it's, you know, they also came out of last week

00:17:40.640 with a great deal of credibility, because for the first time, unbridled, unfiltered,

00:17:48.000 we saw the Congress at work. And it wasn't chaotic. It was not dangerous to the Republic. It was a

00:17:54.840 refreshing, I just think, marvelous moment in history where we got to see our representatives,

00:18:02.180 Democrats and Republicans, behave as we would expect them to with great, great concern for the Republic,

00:18:10.100 and to fight out the power structure of the place and to make important reforms. So I think right now,

00:18:19.580 this is a different atmosphere for everyone. It's a different reality. And this president,

00:18:25.360 this president right now is in big trouble. And it's clear that he did act in absolute disregard of

00:18:34.220 his responsibilities as vice president and the law. He's still, he was still not a president who

00:18:40.380 could declassify anything. And here he is, you know, stacking up documents next to a green Corvette

00:18:47.180 in a garage. Let me ask you this, Kurt, your expectation is as to next events in these classified

00:18:55.820 documents of this, this outrage by this president. Where do we go from here?

00:19:03.300 Well, you mentioned that there's a special counsel appointed. I mean, I, it appears to me that there is

00:19:08.220 an agenda, there's an agenda here. They discovered these documents prior to the midterm, they didn't

00:19:13.180 disclose it. So the subsequent leaking of these events two months after the fact, that's purpose-driven.

00:19:20.360 The appointment of a special counsel is purpose-driven. The fact that we keep finding out more and more

00:19:26.720 that these documents have been held at now three locations is purpose-driven. In terms, in terms of

00:19:35.320 where it goes, I, I don't necessarily believe in the, in the, uh, the good administration to, uh, to

00:19:44.720 prosecute, you know, wrongdoers and to do it ethically. Uh, it, it seems to me that there is a

00:19:50.360 a larger purpose to these disclosures. And, and my personal belief is this would, is likely an effort

00:19:59.560 to push President Biden, uh, out at some point in the near future, given the investigation, particularly

00:20:06.500 given the investigations that are going to happen under the new house. Yeah. This is not a man that,

00:20:12.140 uh, the, the Marxist Dems want to have talking. This is a puppet president, uh, an impaired president. 0.79

00:20:18.260 Uh, and I, I can't imagine that they would like to have this be a long drawn out of a fair, uh, where he

00:20:26.100 would be at a public risk of, uh, of commenting on the broad strategies and, uh, a purpose of the

00:20:34.380 Marxist Dems who have been driving the Republic, the democratic party, excuse me, uh, and the white 0.64

00:20:41.380 house for two years. Uh, it, it seems, and it seems to me that things started to get shaky for

00:20:48.020 president Biden. Once he said he was interested in running for a second term, your thoughts.

00:20:54.080 Well, I think that would put fear in anybody on either side, not fear on, on the Republican side

00:21:00.180 of the aisle, but certainly fear on the Democrats side of the aisle. But I, but I think, you know,

00:21:05.660 this, everything that has been going on from the day he was inaugurated when he, uh, when

00:21:14.740 he took down the Keystone pipeline, the, uh, the, the, the new actions of, of escalating

00:21:22.080 the conflict in Ukraine, the, the amount of, of, uh, money and that is being put back into

00:21:32.620 the build back better agenda. There is an overarching agenda that is being pursued that is separate

00:21:41.320 from Joe Biden. His utility is now, or his usefulness is now largely, I think, at an end.

00:21:49.920 And so I think this is what's going on is that he will be pushed out.

00:21:54.500 Yeah. I, I, I don't know whether he'll be impeached, but I do think that his, uh, uh, his

00:21:59.720 idea of running for a second term has been, uh, uh, I think effectively sidelined with this

00:22:06.340 revelation in these, uh, now two special counsels working on, uh, on the conduct of two presidents,

00:22:12.860 one innocent as he can be, and another who is, uh, presumably, uh, going to get a fair chance at,

00:22:20.420 uh, uh, with his own party investigating him, uh, to explain himself. I want to turn to another

00:22:27.240 area where the wheels are off and that's, uh, in our electoral system. Uh, you're working, uh,

00:22:34.020 assiduously, uh, to represent, uh, Carrie Lake, the, uh, at this point, the, uh, the, the Republican

00:22:42.260 candidate, uh, who came up short in the 2022 election. Uh, you're now moving to the, have moved

00:22:50.300 to the Arizona court of appeals. Uh, what are the, what are the prospects that, uh, you will be able

00:22:56.120 to prove, uh, to the satisfaction of the court that there were irregularities, uh, uh, uh, in the

00:23:04.040 election of 2022 in Arizona? Well, I have no doubt that we proved that there were irregularities and

00:23:10.300 illegality in the midterm election for, uh, Carrie Lake in the gubernatorial race in Arizona.

00:23:16.340 We proved it flat out the, um, and, and, you know, one in particular, the manipulation of ballots,

00:23:23.960 which caused hundreds of thousands, well, well over a hundred thousand rejections and chaos on

00:23:30.560 election day that prevented Republican voters from turning out in the numbers that, that, uh, that

00:23:36.640 they, uh, were predicted to do so that, that is just one issue. And so in terms of the evidence

00:23:43.940 that we presented at trial, whether it's signature verifications, where there are literally tens of

00:23:49.020 thousands of signatures that do not match the signature on file. And what's really crazy about

00:23:57.260 that system, there are over 1 million ballot envelopes where the signatures are verified in that

00:24:06.080 midterm election. There is not, they don't, Maricopa County does not employ enough verifiers to review

00:24:16.180 those signatures in the time they have. In other words, you can, you set out the number of signatures

00:24:20.920 they have to verify, verify the minutes that exist in a day, and it's simply impossible. It can't be done.

00:24:28.160 So, and we have shown that there are tens of thousands of mismatched signatures. In other words,

00:24:34.580 the person signing the card under oath is not the person who's casting the vote. That's just one

00:24:40.320 issue. And we will be presenting that to the court of appeals and to the Supreme Arizona Supreme Court.

00:24:46.100 If we, if we're given the opportunity there as well, the manipulation of ballots, the county denied

00:24:53.220 that this manipulation could occur and we proved it. And then the county put the witness up the next

00:24:59.980 day at trial and he completely reversed himself and said that they had known about this manipulation,

00:25:06.540 not only in this past election, but in three prior ones. No explanation why all of a sudden the sudden

00:25:12.860 reversal in his testimony. The same thing with chain of custody. We showed that hundreds of thousands of

00:25:19.580 ballots don't have chain of custody. And that's not merely a ministerial act. Chain of custody shows

00:25:26.620 that there aren't illegal ballots being injected into the system. It's, it's a prerequisite to a

00:25:33.700 secure election. And in fact, the Carter Baker commission, which came out in 2005, talked about

00:25:40.740 mail-in voting being one of the, the largest sources of fraud in an election because of, and largely

00:25:50.460 because chain of custody is lacking. And there is simply no way without proper chain of custody to

00:25:56.600 ensure that there aren't fake votes being inserted into the election. So what result do you want? Uh,

00:26:03.800 do you want, uh, the, the election, uh, invalidated? What are, what is the, uh, redress for Cary Lake?

00:26:12.920 So under the law in Arizona, you can set aside the election and this is in Maricopa. That's what the law

00:26:20.440 says. We have also requested as part of the relief that a new election be held, but not being run by

00:26:27.560 the same Maricopa County officials who at best incompetently ran not only this election, but the

00:26:34.360 primary election before that. And of course, November 2020 in the general election there as well. They've

00:26:41.240 demonstrated their incompetence, as I said, at best in running elections. And the relief that we would seek

00:26:49.480 would be to have, for example, a, the court appoint a special master to oversee a new election. I would

00:26:56.200 say this about a new development. Last week, the county announced that they were retaining the former,

00:27:07.400 the former chief justice of the Arizona Supreme Court, Ruth McGregor, to conduct an investigation

00:27:13.400 of the printer issues that I was describing that caused the ballot manipulation.

00:27:18.680 That's a 180. Because if you recall, I don't know if you saw the trial, but at trial, they denied

00:27:24.840 that there was anything unusual about the midterm election. And so if there was nothing unusual,

00:27:33.240 why all of a sudden are they now saying that there's going to be an investigation by a former

00:27:37.720 chief justice of the Arizona Supreme Court? So go ahead.

00:27:43.240 So let me ask you this. What are the courts in Arizona like? Are they Republican? Are they Democrat?

00:27:54.280 Are they liberal? Are they conservative? And are they fair and impartial?

00:28:00.040 Well, I will always assume the fairness and impartiality of the court system that I'm going

00:28:08.520 to be operating in front of. And I will say this, what we can control, which is the evidence and the

00:28:16.280 arguments that we make, I feel very confident. I feel confident that the trial court was wrong on

00:28:23.720 the law that he applied. And this goes to the standard. Just a brief delve into the weeds.

00:28:32.760 The trial court said that we had to show by clear and convincing evidence, intentional conduct to

00:28:39.640 affect the outcome of the election. That is not a standard under Arizona law. And that's going to be

00:28:46.120 a significant issue on appeal.

00:28:48.200 Right. Why would they put it that way? Your job is to present the evidence that it was.

00:28:57.480 Correct.

00:28:57.800 It's a very straightforward statement. It sort of astounds me.

00:29:05.880 So here we go again with the court. I'm going to tell you, a lot of the country right now will be

00:29:10.280 saying and are saying, here goes another court proceeding by the Republicans claiming electoral

00:29:16.120 fraud, irregularities, anomalies, whatever it may be, a corrupt election. They haven't won a single one.

00:29:26.840 And what makes you think the outcome this time will be different?

00:29:33.400 I don't look at past cases per se in this vein. Most cases were dismissed on standing before. This was one

00:29:41.400 of the first cases that we actually got to present the evidence on the merits. And the judge, the trial

00:29:47.720 judge did reduce the number of claims that we had. But we still got to present evidence with respect to

00:29:53.880 chain of custody and ballot manipulation. And our evidence is solid. And the standard that the court

00:30:00.760 applied, we believe was incorrect. So we have two, two bites at the apple, a solid evidence of, of the

00:30:11.320 standard in Arizona is merely uncertainty. If the outcome of the election is shown to be uncertain,

00:30:20.520 that is sufficient to set aside the election. And I believe we've shown that on the facts, given the

00:30:26.440 numbers that we're talking about in terms of hundreds of thousands of ballots without proper chain of

00:30:32.680 custody, hundreds of thousands of, tens of thousands rather, of ballots that were manipulated,

00:30:37.560 and the same thing with respect to tens of thousands of ballots with signature verification.

00:30:41.400 Well, you know, obviously, I'm on your side. I'm on Carrie Lake's side. I'm on the side of truth

00:30:48.680 and justice in the American way, and devil take the hindmost. It looks to me like there are a lot of

00:30:55.880 issues in Maricopa County that deserve thorough investigation. And I hope, I hope that the

00:31:03.240 result will be one that is fair and just on your appeal and if necessary at the Supreme Court.

00:31:11.000 It's going to be moving quickly. So the Court of Appeals just issued a new scheduling order

00:31:16.440 where they accepted jurisdiction of the case. The response brief is due by the defendants is due on the

00:31:23.400 17th. That's next week. And our reply is due January 24th. And the court is going to go into conference

00:31:29.960 on February 1st. So it appears that this is going to move very quickly. We are going to be taking every

00:31:36.840 step we can to make sure that it does move quickly. And, you know, you mentioned other cases. And if you

00:31:43.800 have a minute, I would like to raise one issue that I think is surely. Have you seen Ruby Freeman's,

00:31:50.520 the tape of Ruby Freeman, where she basically confesses as to what was going on? Yes. And I think

00:31:57.160 the president reposted it on truth a number of times. I mean, the question like that that event

00:32:03.880 raises in my mind when people say, well, nothing's being done. Well, you have a new legislature in

00:32:08.840 Georgia with Burt Jones as the lieutenant governor. You have Senator Marty Harbin as the chairman of the

00:32:16.680 Government Oversight Committee. I would ask why aren't, why isn't the Georgia Senate moving to

00:32:24.840 subpoena, Ruby Freeman, playing that tape and getting the bottom, getting to the bottom of what 0.95

00:32:32.120 happened in 2020. Because, you know, we've long said, and I've been involved in this for the past two,

00:32:37.640 over two years now. If we don't get to the bottom of what happened in 2020,

00:32:42.440 we will never fix our election system. And it must be fixed going forward.

00:32:49.000 Yeah, I would hope, frankly, that this Congress would put together a committee

00:32:54.760 to investigate an electoral integrity for the purpose of legislation to assure that,

00:33:02.920 but without in any way infringing upon states' rights, which are predominant

00:33:08.360 in issues of elections. So there's a long road to go here. And I think that you are the point of

00:33:15.720 the sphere. What you get done in Arizona will say a lot about what happens in Georgia,

00:33:21.240 what may happen yet in Wisconsin, and other jurisdictions. And certainly, this new Republican-led

00:33:28.840 Congress has the ability to shed a lot of light on some very dark and dangerous places in our electoral

00:33:39.880 system. I thank you for being one of the people shining light and for being here with us to share

00:33:45.480 your insights into all that's going on, including the new special counsel investigating a president,

00:33:54.360 President Biden. Kurt, thanks so much. We always give our guests the last word. Your concluding thoughts,

00:34:00.920 if you would. Well, I would just like to say, if only every Republican was as fearless as Cary Lake,

00:34:11.080 our country would be in terrific shape. And I hope that with the new House, particularly with respect to

00:34:19.640 the subcommittee that is going to be headed by Representative Jordan, the Committee on

00:34:26.040 Weaponization of the Federal Government, is pursued with vigor. Because what has happened in our country

00:34:33.160 over the past few years, it makes our country unrecognizable from the country, Lou, that you and I

00:34:41.640 grew up in with the country that people have laid their very lives down to protect and to preserve.

00:34:50.920 And if we don't get this right now, we're going to lose our country forever. And right now,

00:34:56.120 it's in the hands of people like Jim Jordan to get to the bottom of this and to stop the abuses

00:35:02.680 that are going on now. I truly believe that the 118th Congress is a new opportunity for us to

00:35:11.640 restore this nation. And I am certainly, I'm enthusiastic, I am optimistic about what they're

00:35:21.080 going to achieve with the congressmen that we have representing us in that Congress. They're a

00:35:28.760 terrific and patriotic group who I think mean to save the republic. And that's a new development

00:35:37.480 for us and a hopeful one. Kurt Olson, you're also a part of that reason I'm optimistic. We appreciate

00:35:43.080 you being with us. And thank you for all that you are doing for the country. Kurt Olson, attorney,

00:35:49.640 great American. Thank you, Lou. Thanks, everybody, for being with us. Coming up,

00:35:53.400 Congressman Scott Perry, Congressman Dan Bishop, both members of the historic group,

00:35:58.840 now known as the 20, who helped reform the 118th Congress. Also, attorney Kevin Evans. He's fighting

00:36:06.280 to win the release of 400 pages of documents from the Justice Department, those documents on the Biden

00:36:13.320 payoffs and gifts. And also with us, the great Brent Bozell. He's a conservative activist,

00:36:19.560 founder of the Media Research Center, which keeps a keen, watchful eye on the left-wing media.

00:36:26.120 Please be with us. Thanks for joining us. And God bless you. God bless America.

The Great America Show - January 13, 2023

ATTY KURT OLSEN BELIEVES THESE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS MAY BE A PLOY TO PUSH BIDEN OUT BECAUSE HIS UTILITY FOR THE DEMS IS AT AN END

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