The Great America Show - September 27, 2022


ATTY KURT OLSEN SAYS THERE’S CLEAR EVIDENCE OF ELECTION FRAUD & ILLEGAL VOTING IN ENOUGH STATES TO REVERSE THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL DECISION


Episode Stats

Length

58 minutes

Words per Minute

146.46255

Word Count

8,496

Sentence Count

510

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary

Giorgia Maloney is Italy s first woman prime minister, and she s a conservative powerhouse. She served notice early that she is no friend of the Biden liberal world order, saying the Italian left attacks national identity, religious identity, gender identity, and family identity.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and this is The Great America Show.
00:00:05.480 We're congratulating the new Italian leader, Giorgia Maloney.
00:00:10.260 Maloney is Italy's first woman prime minister, and she's a conservative powerhouse.
00:00:15.400 And she served notice early that she is no friend of the Biden liberal world order,
00:00:21.560 saying the Italian left attacks national identity, religious identity, gender identity, and family identity.
00:00:30.000 Voters in Italy tomorrow appear poised to make a hard right turn.
00:00:34.240 The woman expected to become prime minister leads a party with roots in neo-fascism.
00:00:39.160 The hallmarks of Italian fascism, like this motto.
00:00:44.780 God, fatherland, and family.
00:00:47.060 A far-right political party whose roots go back to post-World War II neo-fascists.
00:00:52.320 Far-right political party whose roots go back to post-World War II neo-fascists.
00:00:56.520 Roots in Italy's post-war fascist movement.
00:00:59.180 Roots in Italy's 20th century neo-fascist movement.
00:01:02.460 Maloney herself was a hardcore neo-fascist militant.
00:01:07.700 It's something because of Italy's disastrous history, the last time a hard right party rose to power.
00:01:13.140 The most far-right government in that country since Mussolini.
00:01:17.540 Most right-wing government since Mussolini.
00:01:20.380 Since Mussolini.
00:01:21.840 A red flag if there ever was one, says Edith Brook, a renowned poet and Holocaust survivor.
00:01:28.180 Italy about to see the country's most right-wing government since World War II.
00:01:33.260 Most far-right.
00:01:34.100 Far-right.
00:01:34.500 Far-right government since World War II.
00:01:36.740 Since the end of World War II.
00:01:38.500 Maloney's win will probably send alarm bells throughout Europe.
00:01:42.520 You know, it's alarming to a lot of people around Europe.
00:01:44.580 Italy is revered for its history, but not all of that history is beautiful, and many fear
00:01:49.880 that one particularly ugly chapter could soon repeat itself.
00:01:55.500 Italy's left sounds a lot like the American left, doesn't it?
00:01:59.480 Italy's government moves to the right, and the American left is doing its best or worse
00:02:04.500 to destroy America.
00:02:05.940 Here's one of Biden's Marxist Dem advisors, accusing the Republicans, naturally, for what
00:02:12.420 the left is doing to the United States.
00:02:15.000 Here's far-lefty Biden advisor, Keisha Bottoms.
00:02:19.640 This election is a very important election, not just for Democrats, but also for Republicans,
00:02:25.240 also for independents, and anyone who cares about the United States of America.
00:02:30.620 There is a MAGA Republican agenda that gives no consideration to the rule of law, that has
00:02:37.520 no respect for a woman's right to choose, that wants to defund the FBI.
00:02:43.100 There is a MAGA Republican agenda that thought that it was okay to attack our nation's capital
00:02:49.300 on January 6th.
00:02:51.980 I think people will think of all of these things when they go to the ballot box, no matter what
00:02:57.320 their party affiliation is, and I think that they will vote accordingly.
00:03:03.880 You know, I've noticed, and I think a lot of people have noticed a certain phrase that you have
00:03:08.140 been using since the very first answer, and that's MAGA Republicans or MAGA Republican agenda.
00:03:14.960 It is a tough line being taken by the president and by you here right now against Republicans
00:03:23.240 writ large.
00:03:24.320 My question is, will the president and will folks in the administration in the, between
00:03:29.480 now and the November 8th elections keep hammering away at that, at that phrase, at that imagery?
00:03:38.360 Well, I think it will be important for all of us who care about the United States of America
00:03:43.820 to call out what we see.
00:03:45.580 And what we see again with this MAGA Republican agenda is an effort to disrupt our democracy.
00:03:52.540 So whether it be through November and beyond November, I think it will always be important
00:03:57.340 to call out any effort there is to destroy, essentially destroy the United States of America.
00:04:04.200 President Biden has been very clear.
00:04:06.620 He wants to work in a bipartisan effort.
00:04:09.140 He has worked in a bipartisan effort.
00:04:11.640 He's been able to get things done on behalf of our country.
00:04:14.860 But when you have a MAGA Republican agenda that has no respect for the Constitution, that
00:04:20.600 has no respect for free and fair elections, then it is important for all of us, not just
00:04:27.220 the president, not just me, for all of us to call it out for what it is.
00:04:32.280 It is a danger to our democracy.
00:04:34.960 It is a danger to our way of life.
00:04:37.960 The midterms here are still 40 days away, but the numbers are still looking great for that
00:04:43.440 GOP wave we've heard so much about for months.
00:04:46.980 Now all the Republican Party has to do is get out the vote and stop the Marxist dens from
00:04:52.720 stealing the election.
00:04:54.280 No small challenge.
00:04:55.880 I don't believe anyone is spending more time, more energy, and personal money to be sure this
00:05:01.280 election is fair and honest than my pillow's Mike Lindell.
00:05:04.840 And with us today is attorney Kurt Olson.
00:05:08.280 He represents Lindell in lawsuits against the attorney general and the FBI director for
00:05:13.580 violating Lindell's constitutional rights.
00:05:16.800 The FBI went after Lindell while he was in Iowa on a hunting trip, surrounded him in a
00:05:22.140 Hardee's drive-thru, if you can believe it, and confiscated his phone.
00:05:26.540 Kurt Olson is a leading attorney and former SEAL representing Mike Lindell.
00:05:31.660 Great to have you here with us, Kurt.
00:05:33.260 You filed the lawsuit, Mike Lindell and MyPillow, Inc., as the plaintiffs, going after the United
00:05:42.660 States government and Merrick Garland, the attorney general, and Christopher Wray for the
00:05:48.280 violation of Mike Lindell's rights.
00:05:53.140 Yeah.
00:05:53.380 So before we get directly into some of the merits, I'd like to just step back and for your audience,
00:05:59.420 you know, let them know what happened, because it's something that everybody should be concerned
00:06:05.080 about, because what we are seeing is the normalization of the surveillance state.
00:06:10.580 And so think about this.
00:06:13.920 Mike Lindell gets up at 4 a.m. to go hunting with a friend in Iowa.
00:06:19.560 They're coming back later that morning.
00:06:21.920 They stop at a Hardee's restaurant and pulls into the drive-thru, orders his food, is told
00:06:29.560 to pull up ahead while the food is being prepared.
00:06:31.960 And all of a sudden, an unmarked car pulls up ahead of him, a guy in, you know, street
00:06:38.220 clothes, not even looking at him, blocking his way.
00:06:41.640 He starts to become a little concerned.
00:06:43.920 Then right after that, another unmarked car with a guy in street clothes pulls up to the
00:06:49.180 right of him, and then another right behind him.
00:06:51.440 These are all, there's no evidence that these are law enforcement, these guys, or that these
00:06:57.060 cars are all unmarked.
00:06:58.700 And so he becomes concerned and yells out, you know, who are you guys?
00:07:02.800 And then at that time, they say, well, we're FBI, and he's, you know, show me your badges.
00:07:06.580 And they do.
00:07:08.260 But this was a dramatic stop that was totally uncalled for.
00:07:14.240 They didn't announce themselves.
00:07:15.960 I mean, they didn't bring in, you know, a marked police car or anything like that that would
00:07:20.080 have, you know, shown, you know, who they were, that they were law enforcement.
00:07:25.360 And this is just the beginning of the example.
00:07:28.460 So he gets out of the car.
00:07:30.220 His friend is very shaken up, another female FBI agent.
00:07:33.060 He's surrounded by FBI agents, at least four.
00:07:36.820 And a female agent takes his friend away, who's very shaken up.
00:07:41.640 Mike, of course, as he says, he's been through a lot in life, so he understands situations.
00:07:46.760 And they start questioning him about Tina Peters, about Colorado, about why he flies his jet
00:07:53.220 around the country, you know, all of these things.
00:07:55.920 They never tell him that he has a right to counsel.
00:07:59.480 They never say he's under arrest.
00:08:01.460 They never present the warrant that they eventually did.
00:08:05.440 It's just questioning.
00:08:06.400 It's like, how does this happen in America?
00:08:08.640 You're sitting at a Hardee's restaurant, three cars with four FBI agents surround you in the
00:08:14.140 parking lot, block you, tell you to get out of your car, and then start questioning you.
00:08:19.600 And then after about 25 to 30 minutes of questioning, they say, well, Mike, we've got bad news for you.
00:08:25.720 We have a warrant to seize your phone.
00:08:29.440 And eventually, you know, without, you know, he turns over the phone.
00:08:33.420 And they also had a subpoena that was signed the same day.
00:08:37.460 Now, a subpoena is merely a civil document.
00:08:41.140 You don't have police, you know, pulling you over at restaurants to serve you with subpoenas.
00:08:46.140 They could be sent by mail.
00:08:48.060 And the fact that you had a warrant and a subpoena signed by the same magistrate, you know,
00:08:53.600 shows you, and we've pled this in our papers, that there were no exigent circumstances that
00:08:58.800 justified this kind of dramatic show of force, stop and seizure of his cell phone.
00:09:08.800 And so that's the backdrop with specifically with that stop.
00:09:13.600 But I want to expand a little bit beyond that, because what's happening in the country is so
00:09:19.920 dangerous.
00:09:20.580 And so, for example, you may know that the Department of Justice put out guidance that
00:09:27.660 equated those who questioned the elections as domestic terrorists.
00:09:32.940 And, of course, Mike has been very public about questioning the 2020 election, the use of
00:09:38.820 electronic voting machines that he has said have been used, and there's strong evidence
00:09:43.280 that they are being used to manipulate elections.
00:09:45.460 And so he's been on the forefront of that, and the Department of Justice has labeled anybody who
00:09:52.720 speaks about these things as potentially domestic terrorists.
00:09:57.360 Layer on top of that, President Biden's speech of a couple weeks ago, set with this deep red backdrop
00:10:05.160 and flanked by two Marines, where he, again, he says that, you know, people who question the
00:10:11.480 elections are enemies of the state.
00:10:13.860 What we are seeing now is the normalization of the surveillance state and the police state.
00:10:21.920 And this lawsuit that we filed on behalf of Mike for his violations of his constitutional
00:10:27.580 rights under the First, Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Amendments, the implications of it go far
00:10:32.860 beyond the simple seizure of Mike's cell phone.
00:10:35.560 And we are at a point in this country where this has to stop, that these government abuses
00:10:43.620 have to stop.
00:10:45.620 The issue that we have on the TRO that we filed yesterday is simply to return the phone
00:10:53.120 immediately and to stop the FBI from further accessing it.
00:10:58.140 So, we hope to have a hearing in short order.
00:11:02.520 It's up to the court.
00:11:04.360 We're hoping it could come as soon as next week.
00:11:07.360 But to justify or to win on the TRO, which is short for a temporary restraining order, we
00:11:14.060 have to show a likelihood of success on the merits.
00:11:16.580 And that's where our complaint, alleging the constitutional violations, comes into play.
00:11:22.800 And, you know, there's a number of specifics about that, which I can get into.
00:11:27.700 But if you want to ask, if you have any questions, I can answer those first.
00:11:30.940 Yes, let me ask a few questions.
00:11:35.080 Mike said at one point, almost immediately, that he thought this was a bad situation.
00:11:44.000 He thought, obviously, these people, he did not, his first thought was not that they were
00:11:49.020 law enforcement or FBI agents sitting there in Iowa getting a breakfast at Hardee's.
00:11:56.760 And he said that if it had gone much longer than it did before they identified themselves,
00:12:03.980 he could have as easily as anything in reacting, just bashed through their cars and driven away
00:12:12.260 to get to a police station and get help.
00:12:15.760 This, they're being very reckless.
00:12:18.700 And you wonder, is it intentional?
00:12:22.080 I think it's absolutely intentional.
00:12:24.380 This was a show of force that, you know, we will show in this complaint and have shown
00:12:30.220 was unconstitutional.
00:12:31.340 But again, this is the normalization of the surveillance and the police state.
00:12:36.760 And it must stop.
00:12:38.740 There was no indication that any of these people were law enforcement.
00:12:42.580 And, you know, you're not required to stop for an unmarked car for somebody, you know,
00:12:49.060 if some guy in street clothes gets out and tells you to pull over.
00:12:52.200 That doesn't cut it.
00:12:54.780 I have seen, and it's my understanding, that you have a right to leave and get to a recognized
00:13:01.480 law enforcement official, one who's in uniform to mark car or something like that, because
00:13:04.980 you don't know who these people are.
00:13:06.820 It could be anybody.
00:13:08.360 And to have a kind of a dramatic situation like this, this was, they planned this.
00:13:12.800 And this is one of the issues that we have pled in our complaint in terms of a Fourth
00:13:17.120 Amendment violation.
00:13:18.280 The question is, how did they know Mike Lindell was going to that Hardee's in the first place?
00:13:23.940 And the obvious implication is, is that they were tracking him, likely through his cell
00:13:29.480 phone, or they had a tracking device on his car, which he did ask him if he had a tracking
00:13:33.600 device on his car, and they denied it.
00:13:35.460 When he asked them, well, how did you find me?
00:13:36.860 They said, well, we can't say.
00:13:38.000 But the most likely explanation is they were tracking him through cell phone location.
00:13:42.760 And in this country, the police don't, law enforcement does not just get to track everybody
00:13:49.180 through cell phone location.
00:13:50.760 They must first get a warrant.
00:13:53.100 And it does not appear that they did.
00:13:55.700 And so people, I think, have been, you know, they just think because of, you know, cell phone
00:14:00.620 tracking, and everybody kind of knows that that goes on, that law enforcement can use that
00:14:05.020 tool willy-nilly without getting a warrant, and they can track and surveil anybody.
00:14:09.880 They can't.
00:14:10.700 Google might be able to, and they do, because, you know, you can turn off your locations,
00:14:15.800 turn on or off your location services.
00:14:17.920 But the police must first get a warrant before they can track you.
00:14:23.300 And so this was, this is the first point of abuse of Mike's constitutional rights under
00:14:30.860 the Fourth Amendment that we've pled in the complaint.
00:14:33.660 How did they even know he was there?
00:14:36.380 That's a great question.
00:14:37.760 That's a great question.
00:14:38.720 And the answer is just about what you would expect from the FBI.
00:14:45.000 I think that the FBI is so diminished now in the public eye, the American public right
00:14:51.100 now knows what they are, and they are no better than a Gestapo-like organization.
00:14:59.720 I mean, it's, think about that.
00:15:01.400 I mean, it's the fact, the way they behave, the way they treat a president of the United
00:15:05.960 States, the way they treat a successful businessman, the way they operate throwing, you know,
00:15:14.920 old guys, you know, into the street with a SWAT team surrounding their homes like they did
00:15:20.040 with Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, various others, it's, it's very troubling, you said, the norm, it's, and I hadn't thought of it quite that way.
00:15:30.800 It is the normalization of the police state, the surveillance state.
00:15:37.340 We just should expect it and accept it.
00:15:39.760 And thank goodness that Mike Lindell is not.
00:15:42.860 So tell us what happens now, if you will.
00:15:45.060 So we have filed our TRO last night, we need to, the court will issue an order, it could just grant
00:15:53.440 our TRO right away without a hearing, but most likely the court will order a hearing.
00:15:59.040 We're hoping for that to occur as early as next week.
00:16:03.520 We will have, today we are going to be serving the Department of Justice, the U.S. Attorney's
00:16:10.300 Office in Minnesota, and, and the FBI director with the TRO.
00:16:16.980 And so it's, it's on a, you know, kind of a wait and see plan right now, but things should
00:16:23.280 move very, very quickly because a temporary restraining order is a request for emergency
00:16:28.760 relief.
00:16:31.200 Well, is, and what is your expectation?
00:16:35.200 Do you think you'll win it?
00:16:38.600 We certainly should.
00:16:40.300 We have pled a number of very clear constitutional violations.
00:16:45.360 The first one being under the First Amendment, his freedom of association and free speech
00:16:50.200 that they targeted him because of his outspokenness on the elections, as well as in Mesa County,
00:16:56.340 he has been very outspoken.
00:16:58.020 There are three cyber expert reports that are published, and these are credentialed experts
00:17:03.540 that show clear violations of law with respect to the election management server that Clerk
00:17:15.380 Peters out in Mesa County, Colorado took a forensic images.
00:17:19.380 And let me back up for a moment.
00:17:20.520 The genesis of this case, out of which the warrant that was issued by, by the government to seize
00:17:28.240 Mike's cell phone, arises out of circumstances in Mesa County, Colorado.
00:17:32.640 And the circumstances are where the duly elected clerk, elections clerk, Tina Peters suspected something
00:17:40.500 wrong with some-with a trusted billed update that the electronic machine vendor, Dominion Voting Systems,
00:17:49.700 was going to perform in May of 2021.
00:17:54.080 And so she ordered a forensic image be taken of that election management system server before
00:18:01.460 and after that trusted billed update was installed.
00:18:06.860 Cyber experts have looked at that forensic image and issued public reports that are available to the-are
00:18:13.460 available, and I'm sure the government has seen them.
00:18:15.920 They're available for all to see.
00:18:17.420 They're posted on the web.
00:18:19.140 And there are at least three critical takeaways from this.
00:18:23.120 And this gets to the bottom of Mike's First Amendment claims, as well.
00:18:27.200 Those reports show unequivocally that election records,
00:18:31.460 on that EMS server, were destroyed and deleted.
00:18:35.240 That's a violation of federal and state law.
00:18:38.380 Secondly, that there was unauthorized software installed on those-on that EMS that first voids
00:18:46.100 the certification that everybody touts as the so-called-that gives security to your vote.
00:18:51.720 These machines have been certified.
00:18:53.220 Well, guess what?
00:18:54.640 There was uncertified and unauthorized software installed by Dominion, according to the experts,
00:19:01.460 on that server.
00:19:03.520 And that-that software allows remote access.
00:19:07.180 It allows the easy manipulation of votes en masse.
00:19:11.220 There is no real reason to have that on there in the first place.
00:19:14.800 But again, it's not certified.
00:19:16.880 It's unauthorized.
00:19:17.740 So why is it there in the first place?
00:19:19.440 And thirdly, there's actual evidence of ballot record manipulation within the machine.
00:19:27.660 And that is an explosive finding by the experts.
00:19:31.320 Briefly, what they found was that during the middle of early voting in the 2020 election
00:19:37.420 and in a municipal election held in April 21, that all of a sudden, two new databases were created
00:19:45.380 where the ballot records are stored.
00:19:47.980 And then select batches of ballots that had been already processed and counted, select batches
00:19:55.240 were moved into those new databases.
00:19:58.320 And that destroys the chain of custody.
00:20:00.760 There's no way to know the ballots, the voters' original intent from that record data, because
00:20:06.320 the act of transferring that into a new database destroys that-those what are called SHA files.
00:20:12.460 And so this is hard evidence that's available to the government and everyone.
00:20:19.760 And it's out of this investigation that the Department of Justice is conducting against
00:20:25.960 Tina Peters and others for taking this forensic image and exposing these violations of law.
00:20:32.840 That's what the Department of Justice, they're investigating the investigators.
00:20:38.780 And so Mike-
00:20:39.220 That's amazing.
00:20:40.240 Very-yeah.
00:20:41.900 Mike has been very outspoken about this and about this issue, as has Tina Peters and others.
00:20:48.280 And, you know, the wrongdoing here by Dominion in destroying election records in violation of state law
00:20:57.720 and as ordered by the Colorado Secretary of State when she ordered the Trusted Build update.
00:21:04.220 And there is no doubt that these election records were overridden.
00:21:08.200 The installation of the Trusted Build, which is kind of an Orwellian term, update overwrote the entire operating system on the EMS.
00:21:17.820 The entire system.
00:21:18.720 The entire system.
00:21:18.780 The entire operating system overrode it completely.
00:21:23.560 These are stunning findings.
00:21:26.440 And so when you see the FBI in three unmarked cars blocking in Mike Lindell in a dramatic fashion at a Hardee's restaurant,
00:21:39.560 questioning him, telling him when he asked for counsel that he can't have counsel,
00:21:44.420 and they only relented after he insisted.
00:21:47.820 And then producing a warrant to seize his cell phone.
00:21:53.000 You know, these are the kinds of actions that violate the Constitution that, again, are the normalization of a surveillance and police state.
00:22:02.820 Now, you mentioned about the FBI.
00:22:04.760 I don't know if you saw, but last night there was a report on, I believe, Tucker,
00:22:10.480 where there are about 20 FBI agents have come forward to, as whistleblowers, to protest against these kinds of abuses.
00:22:17.640 And the one agent that they highlighted has been retaliated against for objecting to SWAT teams being used to go after, you know, nonviolent people.
00:22:29.940 And that whistleblower, he's a special agent of the FBI.
00:22:37.320 His name is Steve Friend.
00:22:38.600 He's amongst the 20 whistleblowers that particularly Congressman Jim Jordan has been speaking about and who offer real hope that we're going to get to the bottom of the extent
00:22:54.240 and the actual specific character of all of the corruption within the FBI and ultimately the Department of Justice.
00:23:03.900 Yeah, let me just add one, another couple of points about this TRO and the complaint.
00:23:11.680 And so people understand because about what their rights are under the Constitution.
00:23:16.580 The FBI cannot just seize a cell phone.
00:23:20.040 You know, cell phones today hold more data than the, you know, 30 years ago, a mainframe computer would take up entire rooms.
00:23:29.000 Well, now cell phones, everything is advanced technologically so much so that a cell phone can hand hold, you know, all the data that 30 years ago would require a whole house basically to hold.
00:23:39.880 And so, you know, particularly with Mike, his whole life is on that phone.
00:23:43.180 He runs his business on that phone.
00:23:44.800 He has all his personal, you know, communications on that phone.
00:23:47.480 He has everything on that phone.
00:23:50.440 Including his communications with the attorneys representing him.
00:23:54.780 Of course.
00:23:55.540 Attorney-client communications with hundreds of people who are also involved in efforts to expose election fraud and the like.
00:24:06.380 Who, you know, warrants, this is what's called, when you seize a cell phone, that's a general warrant, which is specifically in violation of the Constitution.
00:24:16.840 You know, back, you know, in the 1700s, you know, they gave rise to our independence.
00:24:22.640 When we wrote the Fourth Amendment, it was because British soldiers were kicking down doors and going into houses and looking for anything in search of a crime.
00:24:32.600 Well, that's why we have the Fourth Amendment that the framers put into our Constitution.
00:24:37.100 You don't get to just go knock down doors and search for evidence in search of a crime.
00:24:43.440 And a cell phone now has so much information stored on it.
00:24:48.780 The FBI or any law enforcement official seeking to obtain that must first specify with particularity the exact data that they're going to try to seize.
00:25:03.420 This is they need to present it to the court who will then either deny the warrant or grant it.
00:25:08.960 They have to show exactly what they need, exactly how they're going to segregate that data so that they don't get to go rummage through everything on the cell phone in search of a crime.
00:25:21.380 Or in this case, they could the FBI could be looking for, you know, all the hundreds of people who who who who want to remain anonymous, who simply are talking with Mike about election integrity and election fraud.
00:25:33.680 But, you know, the FBI now has the contents of that entire cell phone and can rummage roughshod.
00:25:41.980 And, you know, we've talked earlier about the surveillance and the surveillance state.
00:25:45.960 Well, now all of those people, if the FBI gets to use the contents of that phone, are going to be on a list.
00:25:53.940 The hundreds of people that Mike is talking with, they're going to be on a list.
00:25:58.040 Well, I'm on that list then, because Mike and I have talked about these issues frequently and the idea that that would then become a leverage point to say, well, let's go after Dobbs.
00:26:12.680 Of course, the issue with that is everybody knows that I am very much opposed to the FBI and the Department of Justice carrying out these sort of wide sweeping statements saying there's no corruption.
00:26:30.120 I really want a full investigation.
00:26:32.780 I've been calling for it forever.
00:26:35.140 There's rampant corruption.
00:26:37.020 And and I just I just I my blood boils when I think about what they're doing to this country, the FBI and the Department of Justice.
00:26:46.720 I think I should be talking about what a great agency they are if they're going to come after me.
00:26:50.960 But I'm going to I'm going to stick with the original story.
00:26:54.080 The original story is they have been trampling our rights for years now, and they have been carrying out a campaign of political persecution against Donald Trump.
00:27:04.620 We're now in the seventh year of that persecution, Kurt.
00:27:08.360 It is outrageous.
00:27:10.280 Now they've gone after Mike Lindell.
00:27:13.720 I mean, anyone could be next.
00:27:17.640 Yes.
00:27:18.880 And they're making lists.
00:27:21.080 It's exactly what they're doing.
00:27:22.820 They're making lists.
00:27:24.580 So, you know, in the intelligence community, there is a phrase called pattern of life.
00:27:29.880 And so they'll take one person and they will build a pattern of life around that person, who they talk with, who they contact and so forth.
00:27:38.440 And then who those people talk with and who they contact with.
00:27:42.020 And so, you know, the cell phone and this is recognized in the courts now, you just don't get to seize a cell phone and that's it.
00:27:49.760 In other words, when you present your application for a search warrant to the magistrate to say there's probable cause that a crime is committed and we need to to seize this evidence.
00:28:01.300 Sure.
00:28:01.840 You don't just get to open the house, so to speak, and start rummaging through.
00:28:06.780 And given technology now and the database technology, once you're on a list, it never goes away.
00:28:13.800 And so what's being created here is, you know, is the surveillance state.
00:28:17.860 And in China, you have the social credit score.
00:28:20.540 This is all tied in with, for example, the move to have a central bank digital currency and a digital ID where everything goes into a database which allows total social control.
00:28:35.340 It's very scary.
00:28:36.440 This is the stuff of totalitarian regimes.
00:28:38.920 It's very, very scary.
00:28:40.200 And if we don't stop it now, we are going to lose our country.
00:28:44.120 Well, it's unfortunately, I think we're well down that road.
00:28:48.020 And that's not being alarmist at all.
00:28:51.340 It is.
00:28:52.060 Everyone should find it alarming what is happening right now in Washington, D.C., not just simply with the FBI nor the Department of Justice, although that's that's a hand.
00:29:03.180 That's a lot to handle.
00:29:04.240 But the court system itself, my gosh, they are complicit with the Department of Justice.
00:29:11.200 They are over the prosecutors and the Justice Department overcharging January six defendants.
00:29:16.820 The courts are putting horrible sentences on these folks who have been pleading out with misdemeanors.
00:29:25.560 The stories are just outrageous.
00:29:28.280 You would think that we were talking once again about the crown and 1776 and the colonials who were at their mercy.
00:29:36.620 The courts, why are the courts protecting what is clear corruption?
00:29:43.580 Why in the world aren't the courts looking at what happened and trying to understand it?
00:29:49.920 Well, you know, courts and judges are people.
00:29:55.780 And so people are subject to the same fears, the same, you know, preconceived notions.
00:30:03.920 I mean, everything.
00:30:04.600 And, you know, there are some very good judges.
00:30:07.820 I mean, for example, you know, the district court judge out in Florida who issued the order against the Department of Justice involved in the raid.
00:30:17.500 Yes, so she issued, you know, what I thought was a very well-reasoned order, staying the Department of Justice use of the materials they've seen, and then appointing a special master to review the documents that the Department of Justice claimed were classified.
00:30:36.740 And, you know, as, you know, one of the points that Judge Cannon noted was, you know, in terms of the Department of Justice's objections to,
00:30:47.500 to a special master being appointed, and is that, you know, the only, and they would complain that there might be leaks.
00:30:54.980 And as, as the district court judge said, the only leak came from the Department of Justice when they leaked that picture on Twitter of a bunch of covers saying classified strewn over the floor.
00:31:08.200 So the only, the only leaker was the Department of Justice, which tells you the political nature of that raid and what they're doing now.
00:31:18.580 They leaked that photo on Twitter to create a narrative.
00:31:22.540 And, by the way, this has become their standard method of operation, leaking, leaking, and leaking.
00:31:33.720 Meanwhile, saying, well, we've got an investigation underway, so we can't tell you, the media, anything, and the public certainly doesn't need to know.
00:31:40.320 We'll leak to you what we think you should have in order to support our point of view.
00:31:47.080 Yeah. And, and, you know, just to follow on this, this thread here, what's, what's very scary is that the 11, a panel, three judge panel on the 11th circuit just reversed Judge Cannon's order.
00:32:00.700 And, and one of the, the, in, in, in their analysis was that only the Department of Justice, that they're going to defer to the Department of Justice over what is classified and what is not.
00:32:12.880 Therefore, Judge Cannon's order that a special master review that, they, they reverse that, saying that, again, only the Department of Justice, we're going to, you know, we're a court, but we're going to defer to the Department of Justice.
00:32:24.720 Do you know what, what that means is, is that the Department of Justice has zero oversight over what, over what they determined is classified and what people can see.
00:32:36.620 And so you see the abuse and the raid at Mar-a-Lago, same type of abuses that were associated with the raid on Mike Lindell.
00:32:44.300 There's a pattern here, and there is no, the, the court abdicated its oversight to the government on an issue critical to preserving President Trump's rights in that situation.
00:32:59.400 But it sends a message for everybody because they're saying, well, we're always going to defer to the Department of Justice.
00:33:06.340 So, I mean, I, I really think that their attorneys, the circuit court justice, you know, overseeing that, the Ville Leavitt Circuit is Justice Thomas.
00:33:16.420 And I, I really think that the president's attorneys should be looking at a, an emergency application for stay of that order because the issues raised there go far beyond the president himself.
00:33:29.600 That is a precedent setting decision that says, we're going to always defer to the Department of Justice on matters of a document that's involved in a criminal investigation, whether it's classified or not.
00:33:44.400 And that, that cannot be.
00:33:47.380 We've reached a scary point as we were discussing.
00:33:51.000 This is a scary point in this country's history.
00:33:53.160 The, the, the 11th Circuit ruling, by the way, just so everybody understands, there were three, three judges, and two of them were Trump judges, and they ruled unanimously against the former president's rights here.
00:34:09.160 They just crushed the idea of the presidency, presidential possession of classified documents.
00:34:18.920 They put, uh, they put, uh, effectively an FBI agent, uh, above the president when it comes to classified documents.
00:34:26.700 It's, it's ignorance, it's stupidity.
00:34:28.920 I don't care who appointed them.
00:34:31.060 This is an outrageous decision.
00:34:34.940 Yeah.
00:34:35.580 And, and again, this is a, you know, these decisions are precedent.
00:34:38.760 So this goes beyond just the president, you know, President Trump.
00:34:42.780 This affects every American.
00:34:44.460 Decisions like this will be used in any type of proceeding where somebody, where classic, allegedly classified material is at issue, will be used to shield judicial oversight.
00:34:57.800 And so that affects all Americans and their rights.
00:35:01.540 Yeah.
00:35:02.140 Well, when you think about it, though, Kurt, the, the, the reality is there is no oversight.
00:35:07.860 The House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate have given up their oversight, uh, uh, powers over the Justice Department and the FBI.
00:35:17.380 There's no other way to say this, correct?
00:35:20.040 There is no oversight from Congress as there should be.
00:35:23.940 Well, I'll give you, I'll give you a discreet example, which you may remember.
00:35:27.740 So back in 2015, somebody hacked into the Senate Intelligence Committee computers when they were investigating the CIA's, the rendition programs associated with terrorism.
00:35:42.000 And there's YouTube video where Director Brennan had to admit it was the CIA who hacked into the Senate Intelligence Committee computers.
00:35:54.380 Right.
00:35:55.100 And do you know what happened?
00:35:56.140 Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.
00:36:00.620 Could you imagine if you remember the church hearings back in the 1970s, investigating abuses by the CIA, their assassination programs and stuff?
00:36:10.240 Yeah.
00:36:11.120 Could you imagine any of those senators wearing those hearings if the CIA had, had, uh, stolen their information, hacked into, you know, maybe the, I'm not sure if they used computers back then, but, you know, went in their files like Watergate fashion.
00:36:26.140 And took them out of the desk drawer, which is the physical equivalent, what would have happened?
00:36:31.460 And so the fact that the Senate, the most powerful deliberative body in the world, and the Senate Intelligence Committee, which has oversight over the intelligence agencies, would allow one of those agencies to hack into their computer systems and do nothing is scary.
00:36:56.460 And the chairman of the chairman of the committee was Dianne Feinstein, right?
00:37:03.140 I believe so, yeah.
00:37:03.760 The Senate Intelligence Committee at that time.
00:37:05.480 Yeah.
00:37:06.040 And we, and we, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, go ahead, Kurt.
00:37:10.380 No, no, I was saying I don't think it was Mark Warner.
00:37:12.480 I think it was Feinstein, yes.
00:37:14.300 Yeah, Mark Warner and, uh, and, uh, the, uh, the Burr from, uh, North Carolina took over.
00:37:23.760 Uh, and it's, it was really an astonishing thing to see Burr when he was, uh, the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
00:37:31.600 He just deferred, uh, all together, uh, to Mark Warner, uh, craziness, madness.
00:37:39.720 Uh, it's just, it's unbelievable.
00:37:42.700 So with that.
00:37:44.420 I was just going to say there's the, I was going to say there's the famous line by Senator Schumer when President Trump announced that he was going to be reigning in the intelligence community.
00:37:54.400 And he said, they have six ways to Sunday to get back at you.
00:37:57.240 And that, I think, is indicative of the level of fear that exists and the power that these, the intelligence committee community has over the most powerful deliberative body in the world, as the U.S. Senate is called.
00:38:14.300 And I, I, I laugh sometimes when various conservatives talk about the compromised, the compromised President Joe Biden, because we now know that, uh, there is plenty of evidence of the, his, his, uh, family's involvement in influence peddling and millions of dollars in deals around the globe through his son, uh, Hunter Biden.
00:38:38.600 And, but the, the reality, and we talked about him being compromised by China, by, uh, Ukraine, by Russia.
00:38:45.140 Well, there's a, there's a fundamental compromise that obviously is extant here.
00:38:50.820 And that is with the intelligence communities themselves.
00:38:54.300 Can you imagine the dirt they've got on that guy?
00:38:57.060 I mean, it's, it's incredible.
00:38:59.340 He can't do anything.
00:39:00.680 He's got to do what he's told.
00:39:02.520 He is really nothing more than a puppet, no matter who's at the strings, a foreign power.
00:39:07.880 Or, or, a U.S. intelligence agency.
00:39:11.800 What do you think?
00:39:13.140 Well, look at, you had 51 intelligence professionals sign a letter saying that the Hunter Biden laptop, this is before the election, that that was Russian disinformation.
00:39:27.600 That's now been proven to be false.
00:39:29.740 But this shows, you know, the interplay with the intelligence community and those that support it and the, the, the power that they exercise here to try to defeat President Trump in the 2020 election.
00:39:47.200 I mean, this is, this is very scary stuff where we are at this point in our country.
00:39:55.540 You had, I mean, that's a discreet example of a deliberate act to subvert the truth about something that's a matter of national security.
00:40:06.400 The information on the Hunter Biden laptop showing business dealings between Hunter Biden and allusions to his father, President Joe Biden, the big guy with his cut.
00:40:19.600 That's a matter of national security.
00:40:22.680 Yet 51 professionals signed a letter to say that that was Russian disinformation in an attempt to influence the 2020, and it did.
00:40:31.360 It influenced the 2020 election.
00:40:33.200 All the polling data shows that had people known the truth, there's a significant number would not have voted for Joe Biden.
00:40:42.500 And that number, by the way, was large enough to change the outcome of the 2020 election.
00:40:47.700 What they did and what they got away with changed American history.
00:40:52.980 Yes, and it changed American history, not just with the election of the president, but with the policies that he's now pursuing.
00:41:02.580 So, you know, as, as you know, the first, one of the, his first acts as president was to stop construction of the Keystone pipeline and then to eviscerate our domestic energy production.
00:41:14.280 So where are we are? Where are we now? We have inflation that runs not just with fuel, but with food and the entire, you know, economic structure on the price of goods is affected by this huge increase in the price of gas.
00:41:28.400 This affects everybody. So kind of gets the old saying, you know, elections have consequences.
00:41:33.060 And I would say stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.
00:41:36.840 Well, let's let's turn to further to Bill Barr, speaking of people who contributed to the changing history.
00:41:49.580 He decided not to intervene, even though he knew Biden was lying and he knew those 51 intelligence officers were lying.
00:41:58.120 He chose not to tell anybody that.
00:42:01.480 Because that would be intervening in the election.
00:42:03.680 So what he did was intervene by not intervening in behalf.
00:42:10.100 He intervened in behalf of a corrupt president that we now have in office who should not be there were it not for his decision not to, quote unquote, intervene.
00:42:24.420 By the way, he did intervene, though, actively, not just passively.
00:42:29.860 He also sent out agents to strike the fear of God in them to in social media, in big tech to make certain that they and, of course, big corporate media to make certain that they didn't follow that Hunter Biden corruption story because it was Russian disinformation.
00:42:49.440 It would be an act against the interests of the U.S.
00:42:52.260 Your thoughts about Bill Barr?
00:42:56.180 Well, Bill Barr has come out publicly and demeaned people like myself who have been pursuing evidence of election fraud and illegal voting and so forth.
00:43:17.540 And the evidence is clear that there was outcome determinative election fraud and illegal voting in enough states right now that would reverse the 2020 decision.
00:43:33.920 And so, for example, in Wisconsin, the Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled in July of this year that the scheme to place unmanned drop boxes, which are not monitored, violated, this is in Wisconsin, violated Wisconsin law.
00:43:52.920 Wisconsin specifically says that any location where ballots are dropped off must be manned.
00:43:59.680 And the reason is quite simple.
00:44:01.800 You have mail-in voting.
00:44:03.180 You know, you can have just as the movie 2000 Mule showed, you'll have people showing up with bagfuls of ballots.
00:44:08.600 And it's kind of like something you'd want to know.
00:44:10.940 And, you know, are these ballots legitimate?
00:44:13.520 And, you know, who's throwing these things in the ballot boxes?
00:44:16.420 But those drop boxes, those unmanned drop boxes, which were used throughout Wisconsin with millions of votes being processed through them, that was all funded by Mark Zuckerberg and the CTCL with millions of dollars from that.
00:44:33.980 And the Wisconsin Supreme Court, three of the justices that ruled, it was a 4-3 decision, but three of them wrote in their opinion that when elections are not conducted according to law, they are presumptively illegal.
00:44:49.560 And the consent of the people has not been given.
00:44:52.780 And the vote, the election is, you know, is illegal and cannot be counted.
00:44:59.260 And the point there is that when you conduct an illegal election, as they found in Wisconsin, you don't have to show the other guy would have won.
00:45:07.960 When you have an illegal election, sometimes you can't tell.
00:45:11.480 And so the fact that the election was not conducted in accordance with law means that the consent of the government has not been granted and the election should be redone.
00:45:19.640 That's just Wisconsin.
00:45:20.500 In Arizona, for example, Dr. Shiva did an analysis of the 1.9 million signatures on the ballot envelopes.
00:45:31.300 He took a statistically significant sample, about 3,000 randomly selected ones, and compared the signatures to signatures, official signatures on file in Arizona.
00:45:44.600 He found that over 12% did not match.
00:45:49.040 That's several hundred thousand did not match.
00:45:51.120 And it wasn't him finding, I should say.
00:45:53.440 He had six people, three certified forensic document examiners, and three people trained in the procedures at Maricopa for signature verification.
00:46:03.980 And only where all six agreed that the signature did not match did he include that as a non-matching signature.
00:46:10.060 That's over 200,000 ballots in Maricopa alone.
00:46:16.560 And so there's no follow-up investigation because A.G. Barr said there was, you know, nothing to see it.
00:46:21.580 Well, no, there's quite a bit of evidence that shows.
00:46:24.980 And that's just in two states.
00:46:26.080 I mean, I could go on and on about this.
00:46:28.400 And, you know, the idea that the 2020 election was the most secure election in history, as we are told by the Mockingbird media, is simply not true.
00:46:43.800 But when you look at courts where we have been filing these cases, they're repeatedly dismissing these cases, ruling that there was no standing.
00:46:54.740 And that avoids having to get to the merits.
00:46:58.240 And so no court is getting to the merits of this, which is really troubling.
00:47:03.520 Well, it's troubling because it implies, certainly, that the courts are in many cases aligned with the Department of Justice, the FBI, the deep state that is in control of our federal government.
00:47:18.720 And make no mistake, the deep state is in control.
00:47:22.260 They are, to some degree, co-managed by the Marxist Dems who are directing the Democratic Party.
00:47:30.140 But this is a sorry, sorry time in American history.
00:47:35.920 The judiciary, the Congress, the executive, the in-your-face corruption is extraordinary.
00:47:48.020 There are some hopeful developments, though.
00:47:50.140 And I want to talk about one of them, Fulton County, suing Dominion just to find out what's going on, because they're concerned about anomalies and failures of software and programs and bandwidth and connectivity.
00:48:08.240 So they're suing.
00:48:09.500 So maybe we'll know more.
00:48:11.120 But no one should make any mistake.
00:48:12.760 There is no regulation over these companies, and they are pushing little black boxes out to polling stations.
00:48:22.120 And I mean black boxes, because no one gets to see what's in them.
00:48:26.500 Well, they're not just suing Dominion over a general allegation.
00:48:31.680 It's a breach of contract case, because, you know, they found scripts that were located, you know, in other words, when they analyzed the EMS, there were IP addresses located outside of this country, which the question is, why is that there?
00:48:51.620 And there were what are called scripts, what has been called a Python script, that can be used to exploit access to the system.
00:49:01.600 And whether it's, you know, remote access to data export, I mean, none of that stuff should have been on on these systems.
00:49:10.820 Again, these are certified.
00:49:11.860 This goes back to when I mentioned earlier about Mesa County.
00:49:14.580 There's unauthorized software installed by Dominion on that system that's been certified before that was installed.
00:49:26.160 And that installation of unauthorized voids the certification.
00:49:30.620 So, you know, again, if you're going to, if people want to come out there, the vendors and the EAC and CESA all want to say, well, the most secure election in history, these machines are certified, they're tested.
00:49:43.400 Well, no, there's unauthorized software that's been installed on a number of them.
00:49:48.740 Everywhere we've looked, in terms of the Dominion machines, whether it's Michigan, Maricopa, Georgia, Mesa County, Colorado, they have unauthorized Microsoft Server SQL management suite on there that is not authorized.
00:50:07.880 And it's only, the purpose of it, it allows the manipulation of boats on a large scale and remote access.
00:50:17.840 So, this case out of Fulton County, Pennsylvania is very interesting, but it exposes the lie that these machines are secure, that certification somehow makes them, you know, can give the public confidence that they're secure.
00:50:39.340 And that, you know, any of these other safety procedures, which all of which can be defeated very easily, any computer can be hacked.
00:50:46.260 And even Dominion executives have admitted that any computer can be hacked.
00:50:50.860 Eric Coomer did in a declaration.
00:50:53.460 He was one of their vice presidents of their engine.
00:50:57.540 He admitted in a declaration that any computer can be hacked given enough time and access.
00:51:03.080 Which is, I mean, it's just stating the obvious.
00:51:06.000 There's nothing, you know, that's not some great, you know, you know, but it does beg the question, you know, why, you know, why is there this kabuki theater that somehow certification and logic and access rate tests make these machines safe?
00:51:24.500 I'll give you, if I may, just give you one quick recent example.
00:51:28.640 Sure.
00:51:29.080 So, out of Georgia, a computer science expert from the University of Michigan, J. Alex Halderman, raised the alarm about Dominion voting machines that use their ICX software, the touchscreen.
00:51:42.640 And he has an opportunity to examine a server for 12 weeks.
00:51:47.740 And why everybody shouldn't get an opportunity to, the public shouldn't have an opportunity to examine, just like Professor Halderman, is beyond me.
00:51:54.660 But he had 12 weeks to examine, and he found a, what he called a critical vulnerability that exists in machines used in 16 states that can, quote, be used to, quote, steal votes.
00:52:08.020 And that this, he thought this was so dangerous that he wanted to have his report unsealed and given to CISA.
00:52:14.920 And eventually it was, and CISA issued in June an advisory.
00:52:22.600 And here's the, here's the point that, that shows the cover-up.
00:52:26.740 In that advisory, they said they found nine vulnerabilities required 13 mitigation steps.
00:52:33.360 But what they said is that, we have found no evidence of any exploitation of these vulnerabilities.
00:52:40.240 Exploitation meaning somebody hacked in and manipulated voids, boats.
00:52:44.420 But they never said they looked.
00:52:46.620 So, just as when you were talking about AG Barr, you know, that there was no fraud, but he never looked.
00:52:52.620 We talked at the beginning.
00:52:54.260 CISA never looked at any machines to see if these vulnerabilities had been exploited.
00:53:01.420 And so, when they say there's no evidence, it's because they didn't look.
00:53:05.920 And if you think CISA, and that's short for the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, just part of DHS, and it's supposed to guard our votes and the security, why the heck aren't they looking?
00:53:19.100 And why are they giving such an obvious misleading statement to kind of do this kabuki theater to assure the public that the voting machines are safe?
00:53:29.800 I mean, the first thing they should have done is had a full-on exploration of a forensic examination of all these machines to see if there's evidence.
00:53:39.400 And what you see in this Fulton County case with this Python script and IP addresses from Canada and elsewhere, I believe, located on the machine, which shows how did that IP address get on the machine from outside the country?
00:53:54.520 It's an indicator of penetration.
00:53:59.180 You know, this is, you know, the world we live on.
00:54:03.400 I mean, when you talk about how the system that has grown up, it's designed to protect itself.
00:54:09.900 And people are being misled as to the security, not only of their vote, but really of their rights under the Constitution.
00:54:24.260 We started off talking about the normalization of the surveillance state and the police state.
00:54:29.220 And that's exactly, this is all connected.
00:54:31.780 And Bill Barr, again, and I said this from almost the very beginning, Bill Barr was lying when he said that there was no corruption or problem in the election of 2020.
00:54:48.300 Because when he said that he was still Attorney General of the United States, and they hadn't filed a single investigative report, there was no concluding report, and there had been no time for any investigation of any depth or breadth whatsoever.
00:55:04.660 It was straightforward what he was doing.
00:55:07.580 And that's a shame.
00:55:09.440 I mean, it's truly just a shame.
00:55:12.540 But thank goodness, Kurt, that you're working on all of this.
00:55:15.980 Kurt Olson, we owe a great debt to for everything that he is working and doing for Mike Lindell, for all of us as he investigates what has happened in the 2020 election.
00:55:31.380 And, of course, Mike Lindell himself, he has been beyond a stalwart.
00:55:36.220 He has been at the, they talk about the point of the spear.
00:55:39.700 He's been at the point of the spear for two years now, trying to bring to ground those responsible for what was, obviously, in various parts of the country, a puron-rigged election.
00:55:55.940 Kurt, we always give our guests the last word.
00:55:58.620 Your concluding thoughts, if you would, sir.
00:56:01.440 Well, thank you very much, Lou, for having me.
00:56:03.580 I do want to say that the complaint and the TRO filing that we made on Mike Lindell's behalf is posted on frankspeech.com.
00:56:13.240 I would encourage everyone to go there and to read those filings.
00:56:18.480 This case and the issues we raised there are not just impacting on Mike Lindell, but it's impacting on all of our rights.
00:56:27.960 We have to stop what is the takeover of this country by the surveillance state and a police state, which is being implemented.
00:56:38.800 And there is no, there's no tomorrow on this.
00:56:41.620 It has to be done today or else we're going to lose our country.
00:56:44.580 And I feel that strongly about this.
00:56:46.500 It's, we are, this is a very scary moment.
00:56:50.360 It is indeed.
00:56:53.280 And you're listening to a former Navy SEAL say it's a scary moment, so you know what kind of moment it is.
00:57:00.840 Kurt, thanks so much.
00:57:01.920 I think it's incumbent upon me to say that Dominion Voting Machines, the company, has denied every allegation brought against them for any kind of problem with the election and their counting machines and tabulating machines.
00:57:21.500 And so there you are.
00:57:25.120 They deny every charge.
00:57:26.640 And now we move forward with a little more information, it seems, every week.
00:57:33.680 And that's a good thing for America and for you and me.
00:57:38.280 Thank you, everybody, for being with us here today on The Great America Show.
00:57:42.340 Thank you, Luke.
00:57:44.220 Thanks, everybody, for joining us here tomorrow.
00:57:46.580 Our guest will be former FBI agent Kevin Brock, one of the top officials of the FBI over the past 20 years.
00:57:54.220 Please be with us for that.
00:57:56.280 And until then, God bless you and God bless America.