BANNON SAYS WE’RE FACING THE GREATEST CRISIS IN OUR COUNTRY’S HISTORY
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Steve Bannon joins me on the Great America Show to talk about his life and career in the media and politics, including his time as a Navy SEAL Team Six SEAL and as the White House Chief Strategist to President Donald Trump. He also talks about his new podcast, The Steve Bannon's War Room, and why he thinks CNN + is a disaster.
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Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Great America Show, and thanks for being with us here where
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truth, justice, and the American way are celebrated each and every day. And each day,
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it seems, brings more mad developments and events all across our world and across this great country
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of ours. Today, it's chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Mark Milley, who says he sees
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a rising possibility of what he calls, quote, significant international conflict. He's
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describing what would be called by less pompous speakers, a world war. Milley has learned nothing.
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He wants the USA to be the great protectors of Europe. He now wants to create permanent bases
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in Europe, and he is the president's chief military advisor. So we should all be concerned. General
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Milley is on the loose, and clearly without adequate foresight or judgment, in my opinion,
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and he is whispering in the ear of a man who I doubt can process the finer points of Milley's
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mad prognostication. It seems we are deeply engaged in both interesting times and times that try our
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souls. And for such times, just occasionally, it's good to pause and think about what is unfolding
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around us. Good to test our perspective on it all. So I wanted to invite as a guest today someone
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who deals with all of this and has lived his life in the arena, whether serving in the U.S. Navy,
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working as an investment banker, Hollywood producer, co-founder of Breitbart News, documentary
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director and producer, and CEO of the 2016 Trump presidential campaign, who later served as President
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Trump's chief strategist and senior counselor to the president. And now you see him daily on television,
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you hear him on radio, and watch him on his podcast everywhere, the fiery, combative,
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intellectual warrior of the right, the host of the popular Steve Bannon's War Room. Steve Bannon,
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I think I've watched you for, what, 30 years, 40 years from the 1980s. And Lou, I got to tell you,
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I worked with Andrew Breitbart at Breitbart then before he passed away, then ran it, and then
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have done this for a couple of years after leaving the White House. And Lou, I was talking to staff
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the other day, there are a dozen major stories and major things that we need to talk about every day
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we can't even get to. I've never seen a news cycle like this, and it seems like it's picking up
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at an accelerating pace. And that's why I think I love your show so much. I think you're needed more
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than ever there were when we try to get it done. But we've expanded another, we've added a fourth
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hour, because we had to, just to deal with some of the nitty gritty politics we want to do. But
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I've never seen it like this. But here's the thing I could tell you is that I've also never seen people
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that just want information. They don't want to be told, they want to be shown, and they want to come
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to their own conclusions. So I think we're in a very unique time in the country's history, and actually
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in the news business, where people, your old hangout, I was talking to some Wall Street guys
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about CNN+, which didn't exactly have a bang-up launch on the streaming service. And somebody
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said, you know, they're so far under numbers on the pay server, on the free, why would somebody
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then, you know, on the cable package, why would somebody pay? But I think it shows you where you
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get, where you get great content, and you can provide a service to people. There's a, there's
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an unlimited appetite for this now. But boy, we could do six hours a day and not get to everything.
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Well, you know, I think you're exactly right. And I also think that you're right about CNN
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plus or minus any part of their portfolio over there. This is a, this is a brand that has been
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severely damaged over the years. They are, they are peddling stories and, and propaganda
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that are decidedly, decidedly not in the interest of the viewer, because there's no truth. There's,
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there's literally a disconnect that they bring to the entire idea of journalism, CNN style. And that
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is, they have a narrative that they hatch in the morning, and they carry through 24 hours of
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programming. And that's just, it's stunning to me that they have gotten away with it. They've had
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the lowest audiences in it throughout the past decade, and still can get enough money from the
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corporate elites, the one worlders running Wall Street, Madison Avenue, and corporate America,
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they'll keep them afloat no matter what, because they're carrying the corporate tune,
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aren't they? Yeah, definitely. And here's what's interesting, you know, because I watch,
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I consume a lot of MSNBC and a lot of CNN just for this job, because we really try to break those
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shows down and the information warfare. You know, back when you were there, and look,
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Ted Turner obviously was a, was a liberal from the South. And the thing always had a liberal
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event, but they had shows like yours that gave it to you straight. And it had some really
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great news gatherers and people that are really, really just purporting the news,
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not what it became. And here's what's interesting. You can tell with John Malone getting involved,
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getting involved here in the hand of Malone, as you know, as you know, Lou, they don't have those
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large muscles. I see them now trying to do the coverage from Ukraine and from around the world.
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It's not the same place. They've hollowed out the news gathering capability. And so they've gone to
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so hardcore opinion that when they do want to go back to news, as I tell everybody, they just don't,
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those muscles have atrophied. I think they really have to rebuild the entire thing. I think CNN has
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a long haul in front of it because they get so far off of turning just to a hate Trump network.
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It is. And without Trump to hate on daily, hourly, they really are at sea at a loss as to what to do
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with their air unless it's to propagandize. MSNBC is also a sort of a mutant relative of CNN,
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except it has no pretense whatsoever that it's covering news. And it just goes full on left-wing
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Marxist prattle. It doesn't rise to the level of ideology. It's just prattle. And it's stunning
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that Comcast and the owner of CNN, AT&T, soon to be Discovery, are giving such a strong signal that
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this is what they want on the air. They must understand in that boardroom that this is a
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disservice. It's a breach of fiduciary duty because Lord knows what they could do with those
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properties if they would just do the honorable thing, which is report the news.
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I think honorable and profitable. I think, look, NSNBC, I think it's too far gone. And, you know,
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the Robertson, these guys have had very specific ideas of the propaganda they want to put out.
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And it's really all opinion. CNN, I believe John Malone and Zasloff's look is a progressive too,
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but I think John Malone is going to demand some changes. And I think we've got to start holding
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corporate America accountable for the advertising they're doing on there. I mean, if you're going
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to, you know, the sleeping giants always want to come to Breitbart or come to War Room or come to
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Blue Dobbs. And if you have a sponsor, if you're selling ads, they want to go through this, oh, you're
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terrible. You're on these shows. You've got to be taken off. I think the right has got to start
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demanding that corporate America be held accountable for the advertising dollars. You know, I read
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yesterday, I think in the journal that CNN threw off a billion dollars of cash flow. I can't believe
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that unless the production cost is cheaper than I think, but that's all corporate money. I mean,
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that's just corporate sponsorship. They're sponsoring anti-MAGA, anti-America first, anti-American
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manufacturing, anti-middle-class really economic and cultural policy. So I think eventually people
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have to be held accountable for this. Well, I could, again, I couldn't agree more. And it's,
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it really does resonate with some of the advertising that you're saying, particularly during the final
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four Buick puts up an ad talking about, you didn't see this sporting event, uh, this woman's
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sporting event, uh, and, uh, and another, and they've got the screen dark just with font over,
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uh, talking about how outrageous it is that, uh, men athletes are covered and that, uh, women who
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comprise 40% of the, uh, uh, the NCAA only get 10% of the coverage. These people are blind,
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deaf and dumb and do not understand how markets work. If there's an audience, they will, they will
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gladly turn that time over because that's what they're paid to do, except in the instance in
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which you just mentioned corporate sponsorship, rather than corporate advertising, they're driving
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a program, they're driving CRT, ESG, all of these Marxist ideas. Now that companies are having to
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double the size of their HR departments to keep up with the, uh, the doctrine of the day, the,
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the demands of ideology within the corporate structure, uh, and to see it spill out over
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the airwaves as we have, it is really revolting. It's, uh, well, it's just awful and it's, we're in
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for more of it. I'm afraid rather than less. Well, that's one of the points I had Cortez on the day.
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We didn't have a time to fully develop this, but I know you've talked about it for years and call
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people out by name. Look, we used to have a, a, a FTC and others that, that really enforced,
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you know, the anti-monopoly laws. We we've gotten away from that. And I think these companies are
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just, they're too big and too powerful. We've had too much of a concentration of power. We need,
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really need, I think, Teddy Roosevelt and some trust busters, particularly not just in the media
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side, which these conglomerates are just, they stagger me about how, you know, the market caps of
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60, 70, 80, $90 billion in the ability to really do information warfare. They're really held
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unchecked. Also the corporate power, the concentration of these industries. And
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particularly as Cortez and I are getting into asset management, where you have a BlackRock is,
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has $10 trillion on the management. And Larry Fink becomes one of the most powerful guys
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in the country. That's not what the founders had in mind. In fact, Jefferson and Hamilton used to get
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these huge fights about the concentration of financial power and how close to government
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power. I mean, it was the whole reason the deal was cut to move the Capitol from New York City.
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As you know, Lou, being a Wall Street guy, that statue of George Washington is where he took his
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first oath of office right there, right across from the stock exchange. And so, you know, that
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concentration of economic, financial, and political power all in one place, you know, Jefferson from
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day one said that's just going to lead to all types of corruption. And so today, I think you're seeing the
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same thing. You see, you've got this, uh, this concentration of, you got this concentration of,
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of, of power personified by the asset managers. Yeah. And, uh, and James Madison, uh, writing
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eloquently and forcefully, uh, in, in the Federalist Papers, also moving to, to put this forward as a
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foundational, uh, issue that about which there has to be great skepticism and a committed, a committed, uh,
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effort to rid, uh, government and our political system of, uh, these, uh, partisans, uh, and factions,
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or else the result will be what we have today. Uh, and speaking of those factions, I, we, we are
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being blessed once again by, uh, Murkowski and Romney, two of the Senate lions, uh, this, uh, this
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twosome has decided that, uh, uh, uh, judge Jackson is just imminently qualified to sit on the Supreme
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court, irrespective of her views on, uh, child, uh, uh, pornography, pedophilia, uh, and a stunning
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record of being soft on crime and the vilest kind of crime crimes against children. Your thoughts.
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Well, look, I think, you know, the, she went to the finest institutions in the, in the, in the,
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the educational institutions in the country. She went to Harvard, uh, college, uh, she was a graduate
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of Harvard law school. Do you know, as well as anybody, how tough those institutions are and how
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they demand economic, uh, how they demand academic excellence. She worked at some of the, you know,
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Morrison Foster, I think one of the top law firms in the country. She's clerked for the best, uh, some of the
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best, uh, judges and justices. She's, uh, she has a lifetime appointment, uh, not only been a federal
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judge, she has a lifetime appointment on the DC appeals court. Her qualifications, I think as far
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as qualifications go, are kind of unquestionable. It's about her judgment. And I don't think it's
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even judicial philosophy, which I do think she's a radical. I don't think that disqualifies her.
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What I, look, I'm not a constitutional lawyer. I think what disqualifies her though, is this handling
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of really, uh, the, uh, you know, the sexual predators about the torture of, of small children
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and babies. This is definitely, uh, what she's done on this and calling it child pornography is
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too easy on it. If you read the documents that were withheld and what concerns me the most,
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the reason we get so involved in it, she, she, they had the white house and, and, uh, Durbin held
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the documents back. And I think that this makes her unqualified. I think this is going to be the
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most toxic vote for people like Mark Kelly in Arizona and, uh, and Masto in, uh, in Nevada
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senators. Uh, and it's disgusting to me that three Republicans are voting for this.
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Uh, but these are disgusting Republicans. When we're talking about, uh, Murkowski, we're talking,
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uh, uh, about, uh, Collins, we're, we're talking about Romney. Uh, these are, these are rhinos
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of the highest order who have, uh, the souls of, uh, well, I won't go to their souls. They just
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simply are, uh, are nauseating people who really are unprincipled and have no business being in the
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Republican party whatsoever. And the Republican party in my judgment has made so many mistakes
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in the way in which they have treated the rhinos. I think there's a far more honest, a bargain to be,
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uh, be made here, uh, Steve, I, I, I think it's time the Republican party say, you know,
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we're not so desperate. We're going to take Democrats into the party. They haven't had the
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guts to do that. The principle to do that. Uh, and that's to me, absolutely. As I said,
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sickening, uh, do you disagree? Well, I know it's, I think it gets down to something. I think one of the
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reasons president Trump has followed the Lou Dobbs show and Lou Dobbs who's writing his columns in
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your TV show for 30 or 40 years. And I have too. And we've learned so much as I tell you,
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and you're, you're too modest to say you've been the mentor of both of us when it comes to
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trade and manufacturing things you've talked about that nobody else talked about on TV.
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And certainly nobody talked about the business press. The fundamental difference gets to be
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that we're economic nationalists and they're globalists. They're called Republicans. And I
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think this is a very unfair, it's kind of a old, uh, in a silly way to look at it. They've opposed
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the policies that you've put forward for decades and decades and decades. And we saw what happened
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to our economic base. We saw what happened to the middle class got hollowed out because those
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are the policies of wall street and the corporations and the chamber of commerce and people you've taken
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on for decades. President Trump has been the first president who really, even president Reagan
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wasn't as strong as Trump is about manufacturing jobs and bringing jobs back and standing up to the
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Chinese communist party. And he saw everything that he had to fight. And I think in the Republican
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party, we have a misalignment. The donors are clearly vast majority of the donors are globalists,
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the big donors. Uh, they've got a, uh, an apparatus with Kevin McCarthy, McConaughey's others
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that do their bidding. And then you have the Trump wing of this. Now that's 80% of the voters.
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Uh, but in it's, uh, in it's a young rising group of politicians. And that's why the next hundred
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days on the, on the, between now and in the middle to the end of June on these primaries
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are so important. You know, there's 12, uh, NBC did a specialist one. There's 12, uh, people
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that have defied president Trump that he's primary and called, they call it the big 12.
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Fred Upton didn't resign today. So you're seeing that, but no, I think it's a fundamental, uh,
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difference in, in, in philosophy and what the, what's good for the country. And that is we are
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economic nationalists in America for us. And if you don't have a manufacturing base,
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you're not going to really have an economy without an economy, you're not going to have
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a middle class. And that's the, the, the donors just disagree that the Larry thinks of the
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world, the Steve Schwartzman's, uh, the Ray Dalio's, uh, the people that are big donors
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just don't agree with that. They, they believe in the free flow of capital everywhere in the
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world and in a global labor market. And you've seen what's happening on the Southern border
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right now. They're really supporting it behind the scenes, just like the Democrats, Democrats
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want the votes, the Republicans want the cheap labor, and this is what's destroying
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the country. The, the destruction of America seems to me to be a priority for the, the radical
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Dems, uh, for the Marxist democratic party. Uh, and I'm, I'm, I'm frankly, I'm calling the
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Marxist, uh, uh, advisedly purposefully. I think that this is why I think this November,
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look, let me say this way. President Trump, and you know, this as well as anybody, it was
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divine providence that was there from president Trump's victory in 16 behind the grace come
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from behind in, in, um, in a presidential electoral history. I was a small part of that, but everybody
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know, you know, we, we were, uh, we were a, uh, well, you were his campaign, you were his
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campaign manager. No, no, no, but we look, we were fortunate to have a great candidate at
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divine providence because to what we focus on the States and the message resonating, people responded
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and we had the greatest candidate who energy was just incredible. That was providential. I also tell
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people that the big steel in, in, in, in, uh, 2020, which we fight every day to decertify these
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Biden electors. That is also providential. And here's why you've lived in New York city. I mean,
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you've lived among, uh, the power elites for all your adult life. Um, before people could have
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discussions and have debates and you had, you know, I can, I came from a democratic working
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class and you mean family, but you can have debates and you can have debates. You know,
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people started getting heated during Vietnam, obviously in the, in, in, in president Reagan's
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policies and obviously the Iraq war, but something's changed in this election. The Democrats have turned
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all their cards over the table and they are radical, radical, radical cultural Marxists combined
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with this kind of state capitalism. That's total authoritarian. And they want to destroy the country.
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As we know it, there's no doubt. So we have a chance this November, I think from the school
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boards to the, to the County supervisors, state legislatures, house and Senate, I think we have
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a real chance if we're focused and tough as nails to destroy the democratic party as a national
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political institution, let it splinter into a green party with the squad and kind of a neocon
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neoliberal, you know, wall street donor, big corporation party with the Liz Cheney's and the Hillary
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Clinton's. And then we have a Trump, we have a Trump Republican party. I really think we have
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an opportunity because I think divine providence was there and showed us when they stole the
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election, they really showed us who they were. They thought that we were going to just quit and
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surrender and go home and turn the country over to them. And the MAGA movement said, absolutely no
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way. They fought back their radicalness coupled with their incompetence. Okay. Is, is I think
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provides us a unique opportunity. And that's why it's so important to win these primaries with Trump
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candidates. So then we can put our shoulder to the wheel and not just make this one of the most
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important elections in American history, not just make it the biggest midterm turnout, bigger than the
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key party or bigger than 1952 or 1932, but really have it so we can shatter the democratic party up
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and down the ticket and destroy it as a national political institution.
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I don't know if you know this or not, but you're on your thought. No, Lou, so much you've talked about
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is this agenda. And I, and I think it's, that's why it's great. And it couldn't be better timing. You got
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the podcast back up. You're doing it every day of the week. Cause there's a big audience out there
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that needs now more than ever, the fog of war and war in Eurasia, obviously this, this tragedy in
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the Ukraine, but also, you know, today there's famine in Sri Lanka and Chile. You're seeing
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the blowback from all the economic problems that the globalists have caused and inflation's out of
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control now more than ever. You need somebody that can sit there. That's been through a couple of
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cycles to say, okay, no need to panic, but this is the action we have to take. If we
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keep drifting and particularly drifting with these radical Democrats and wall street,
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the giant corporations making decisions, this country is going to be in a, uh, in a, in a,
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in a real deep bind that we're not going to be able to get ourselves out. It'll be a different
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country and we don't have long to turn it around. We are battling, uh, my old friend, uh, Klaus Schwab
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of, uh, of Davos fame. He and George Soros primarily, uh, across the planet. And we are
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watching corporate America, uh, just exert all of its mighty economic power to support this little
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fella in Switzerland who is talking big and thinking big and they're buying into it because
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it isn't called Marxism. It's called Swabism. It's called Davos. It's called one world as my new
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world order as he puts it. Well, I know a place, I know a place close to your heart, Harvard. When
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I went to Harvard business school, this is what was taught. It was, it was the, it was the West
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point of globalization and you were taught that globalization, I mean, it was no even counter
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to the ideology. You were just literally taught the economics of those scale, you know, about scale
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economies and everything about the economics of it. It was nationalism and economic nationalism. What
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it wasn't even considered. It's not considered like intellectually something you spend your time
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on. The party of Davos's gospel, which is globalization started in the business and law
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schools in the economics departments of the Ivy league universities and the London school of
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economics and the great universities in, uh, in Europe, university of Paris, uh, and others. Now
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they've come up with this modern monetary theory is it's in those business schools that then think
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tanks that really came up with this. That was, you know, to Klaus Schwab when they first started,
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it was a little get together in, in a beautiful, a ski resort in Switzerland, but he had an idea
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and that idea drafted off of and leveraged off of the thought that was out there in, uh, in the
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business schools. And it then became McKinsey and Booz Allen. Next thing you know, they're all
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retained in the investment bank style. I guess I worked at Goldman and Goldman at the
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time was really becoming a place of, of becoming from a, uh, uh, you know, Mr. Weinberg and Mr.
00:23:17.580
Whitehead that headed co-headed the firm I was there. Mr. Weinberg, I think had been a Marine
00:23:20.980
Aquatic Canal. Mr. Whitehead had been a boat commander, uh, on D-Day, uh, but they're very
00:23:27.120
different places today that all came out of the think tanks, the consulting firms, and particularly
00:23:32.580
the business law schools in the great universities, economic departments. They dispensed with, I'm going to
00:23:38.500
say, and I'm good by my estimate, at least 10 million middle-class jobs over the course of the
00:23:45.660
past 20 years. And they did so for labor arbitrage. They were matching up those jobs that were ripped
00:23:53.100
out of America and our middle-class and our economy, uh, and our society and putting them in cheap labor
00:24:00.360
markets, cheap foreign labor markets and benefiting. You could be a genius CEO. You could, who could make
00:24:06.780
a hundred million dollar bonus if only you sacrificed your workers, uh, your, uh, your high paid, uh, middle
00:24:14.780
managers and threw them over to India, Romania, uh, China, uh, Vietnam, uh, and away we went. I mean,
00:24:22.700
that was, that is how brutal it was. And we saw trillions of dollars ripped out of the economy as
00:24:28.400
a result. This is why it is tough as president Trump is as good a businessman as he is. Uh, look
00:24:35.540
at, uh, at the struggles he had in implementing, uh, the America first program and bringing manufacturing
00:24:41.720
jobs back. I mean, Lou, you've done more than anybody talk about cutting, gutting our manufacturing
00:24:46.320
base in the, in the high quality jobs that we've lost that have been shipped overseas. And remember
00:24:51.440
they've been shipped essentially to the slave may, uh, you know, the, the Lao Bai Jing, the Chinese
00:24:56.480
workers are essentially slaves and, and wall street understands us. This is why I showed NBC with the
00:25:02.040
Roberts. They're so funny. They're preaching every night to you virtue signaling on MSNBC, but let's be
00:25:07.900
blunt. They kiss, they kiss she's ass over there. This disgusting genocide, Olympic games was revolting of
00:25:14.780
what they did. And to know that Putin came over there, she, and cut their strategic partnership and
00:25:20.080
basically got the okay from Xi to go ahead and do his, uh, his land assault in the Ukraine because
00:25:25.780
China is underwriting. It just announced today that, that Xi and Putin have said that they want
00:25:30.300
to get more engaged in the peace talks because this is their power play to control the Eurasian landmass.
00:25:35.440
And this, this shows you that the people have been warned. People know about this, that manufacturing
00:25:40.180
base in this country has been shipped over essentially to China at the detriment of American workers in
00:25:45.760
the American middle class. And, and the Larry Finks of the world and the Steve Schwarzman of the world,
00:25:50.660
and particularly the Ray Dalias of the world have made a fortune off this as a, as the, the average
00:25:55.360
wage for work in this country has not increased since 1973, since essentially the Arab oil embargo.
00:26:01.860
And, uh, and now with inflation, a family of four that makes about 60,000 bucks a year pre-tax is at
00:26:09.020
Bloomberg just reports. They're going to have at least a 5,500 to a $10,000 hit because of this rampant
00:26:15.180
inflation caused by, uh, the hapless illegitimate Joe Biden and these fools he has at treasury and the fools
00:26:24.500
And the fools at the federal reserve are doing it again. They cannot, it is not enough that they want to
00:26:31.740
raise rates in the face of highly uncertain times over the course of the next several months, uh, and any move
00:26:38.900
they make, including the most recent, uh, 25 basis points are premature. It's that simple. We're looking at, uh,
00:26:46.540
we're looking at M to continue to expand. They will have to act, but they're, they're not thought out.
00:26:53.260
They're not targeted. And they are behaving as if running off the balance sheet, uh, of some $8 trillion in a
00:27:00.820
hurry will be a good thing for the economy. It's madness there. We have to give a capitalist economy, an opportunity
00:27:07.360
to, to, to reach some sort of equilibrium, uh, in its markets, or they, there's no basis for markets
00:27:13.340
to exist. Uh, and, and instead, uh, they want to lead the markets, which is another conversation for
00:27:21.360
another time. But the reality is we're going to go through some periods of instability that are not
00:27:26.200
going to be, uh, positive for anyone, uh, save perhaps the bankers. Uh, well, we have an inverted
00:27:35.040
yield curve. So that's always been, I think you taught me the last seven of eight, uh, major
00:27:39.740
recessions have always started with a very yield curve. So I'm going to bet the under on that.
00:27:44.540
I think, I think you're saying, I think we're heading towards a major recession. And unless
00:27:48.040
they come back with a plan, because right now there's a more radical philosophy on wall street
00:27:53.180
and in Washington, the people won't be honest about it. And that is this concept of modern monetary
00:27:58.240
theory that came out of these radical, uh, left-wing socialists in France. I think Thomas
00:28:03.140
Piketty is the, is the economist from his book capital a couple of years ago. It's a, it's
00:28:07.600
basically says deficits don't matter. And this is why you're now $30 trillion in national debt
00:28:13.580
with, we just had a three and a half dollar deficit, uh, in, in, in, in this current physical
00:28:18.980
just got passed a couple of weeks ago in the middle of the night, uh, 2,700 pages, the Senate
00:28:23.440
didn't even bother to read. They've already presented a budget with all these lines and
00:28:27.280
misrepresentations on tax on the wealthy are just not going to happen because Joe Manchin said
00:28:31.080
they're not going to happen. This has almost $6 trillion in spending. And that means we're
00:28:35.980
going to have a two to two and a half trillion dollar deficit, no matter all the lies Joe Biden
00:28:40.060
says. And I just keep asking people and Republicans particularly show me the plan. If I was at
00:28:45.420
Goldman Sachs and we were sitting there talking about a financing, a company that had this kind
00:28:49.060
of financial model, it's not sustainable. So it would just the prime, we're not going to
00:28:53.760
be the prime reserve currency. I don't think, uh, in, in, in, in the longterm, it's obvious
00:28:59.320
the world's trying to get alternatives to us dollars because we've weaponized the dollar
00:29:03.100
particularly against the Russian central bank and against the Russian people in the world
00:29:06.860
to have, try to have regime change. I was always been an advocate of doing that against the Chinese
00:29:11.580
communist party, but I've always been an advocate of not doing it against anybody else. You have to
00:29:15.920
take down the CCP and you have to use the dollar to do it. If you do it to other countries and it
00:29:21.400
doesn't succeed, looks like it has failed in Russia because they have natural gas and they force
00:29:25.960
everybody to buy it in rubles, which the geniuses of the treasury and that national security council
00:29:30.940
seem to have not considered, uh, we're in a real jam. And if we're not the prime reserve currency,
00:29:35.980
then we can't run to a three and a half and two trillion dollar deficit. It's just the math
00:29:40.640
doesn't work. We become like Argentina. So we're in a jam and all the easy decisions are 10 years
00:29:47.260
behind us. We have nothing but tough decisions coming forward. And that's why, quite frankly,
00:29:51.360
I think Donald J. Trump can't get back to the oval office quickly enough because this country's in a
00:29:56.180
real jam. It isn't a, it's a, it isn't a jam. It is. We're witnessing just bald face, straight up
00:30:04.580
stuff right now. We're witnessing the destruction of America unless we act and we have a society that
00:30:13.860
doesn't act anymore. It pretends, uh, we have, uh, it is passive. It's inert. And I'm talking about
00:30:21.700
everyone from our leaders to our military, uh, to corporate America, where the average CEO today makes,
00:30:29.200
uh, about 400 times what the average worker makes, uh, when, you know, 40 years ago, that ratio would
00:30:36.000
have been about 20 to one. We have created a, a, just a disgusting series of Hobson's choices for our,
00:30:46.180
for our leaders, uh, and their predecessors in the white house, in Congress, in the Senate, in, uh,
00:30:52.740
in academia, uh, have just, they've left us bereft of critical thinking of vision, uh, and of real
00:31:02.080
commitment to the way we got here. We have oligarchs running our country and not a constitutional
00:31:09.860
Republic as it was envisioned by our founders. We have without question, uh, a, a two enemies
00:31:17.720
that will have the best of us. If we keep plotting along with, uh, I mean, we have right now Joe Biden
00:31:24.540
in the white house, Steve, how in the world can the democratic party not be held accountable for putting
00:31:30.780
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris as the two top officials of this administration, the successors to Donald
00:31:40.520
J. Trump, America first. I mean, it's outrageous. Well, we're paying the price for it. So elections
00:31:47.200
have consequences, Lou, and stolen elections have catastrophic consequences. And the country's
00:31:51.560
going through a catastrophe on every aspect from the invasion of the Southern border to the economy,
00:31:56.340
to geopolitically, culturally, uh, we're in a crisis where I think this is the greatest crisis
00:32:02.920
in the history of the Republic. And that includes the revolution includes the civil war and includes
00:32:06.760
the great depression, World War II. This is by far the greatest crisis the country's ever had. And
00:32:11.700
it's going to take patriots and it's going to take every day. You're going to have to dedicate your
00:32:15.680
life to turning this around and it's not going to be easy. It's going to be tough, but it's doable.
00:32:20.000
It's doable. If we do it now, we can't wait. And you have to take action immediately. If you wait,
00:32:26.100
the country's done. So as, as I, I look at what is happening in, in this administration,
00:32:33.360
we have a Supreme court justice who will not define woman, uh, before the judiciary committee to get
00:32:40.980
their support to be reported out to the full Senate for confirmation. We find out that the Biden
00:32:47.120
administration has five departments now that refuse to use the word women, this is, this is beyond
00:32:56.200
Orwellian. It's beyond 1984 animal farm. This is the stuff of a new Marxist nightmare in which words,
00:33:06.400
uh, are, are now, uh, weapons. Uh, and if they indeed are weapons for truth, they simply dispense them.
00:33:13.940
How is it that we can't have a government that removes the word women? Uh, it does give me a
00:33:20.980
sense though, of what toxic masculinity masculinity. Finally, I understand it. Finally, it would take
00:33:28.040
toxic masculinity to destroy women, uh, whether it is through the title nine that they, with, uh, you know,
00:33:36.660
uh, uh, trans, uh, being permitted to compete against women, which is outrageous in any sport
00:33:44.260
and take women. Now we're stripping them of their very name. But, but this is Mao's, this is what Mao
00:33:51.740
did. This is what the Bolsheviks did is really what the Nazis did, but the Bolsheviks, the French
00:33:56.480
revolution, the Bolsheviks and Mao Zedong are all inextricably linked. And that's key was to destroy
00:34:01.260
the family. You destroy the nuclear family. You destroy the church or any type of religious
00:34:06.180
institutions around it. You destroy the relationship between parent and child. Uh, the state
00:34:11.580
intervenes there and you do it by totally, you know, turning the world into anarchy and chaos
00:34:16.440
and particularly in their own personal lives. You see this going on. It's a pretty straightforward
00:34:20.300
playbook. I think it's very powerful. They have their hands on the lever of powers, including
00:34:25.340
these massive institutions in American life. And that's what the fight is. One of the things that
00:34:30.560
the, that the libertarians in the, in the, in the, even the Republicans, all the deregulation and
00:34:35.700
tax cuts to the corporations, we've created this Frankenstein monster, the massive corporations that
00:34:41.760
are really in bed with big government. So big business, the oligarchs in Silicon Valley,
00:34:46.400
wall street, the globalist corporations in business with big government has created a system here that
00:34:52.820
now is really anti-traditional Americanism and anti-traditional, the American Republic. And this
00:34:59.000
is the fight before us. And it's a big fight and it's going to take a look as tough as Donald Trump
00:35:04.660
is. It was a big fight for him. And, uh, you know, he's coming back for round two, but it's a, it's,
00:35:10.920
I can tell you from being in the white house and following this closely, uh, afterwards, this is a
00:35:16.520
tough fight and it's going to need to be all hands on deck. And we have to have everybody on the same
00:35:20.120
page this time. So we've got a big fight in front of us against a lot of tough hombres who are not
00:35:25.380
going to back off. And their, and their ideas are radical. If you really look at these, they're
00:35:29.820
radical ideas. When I, when a graduate of Harvard college, a graduate of Harvard law school with her
00:35:35.580
academic qualifications and how she's excelled throughout her entire life. When a Senator Blackburn
00:35:41.320
asked her a basic question, or can you define a woman? And her response is, I'm not a biologist,
00:35:45.420
biologist. You know, the country's in, in, in, in deep trouble. Um, and when three Republicans vote
00:35:51.620
to confirm her, uh, the country's in deep trouble, it's deep trouble because we've, we've cut loose
00:35:57.840
of our moorings of the Judeo-Christian West and we're in a very different, strange land. And that's
00:36:02.680
where we got to fight and we got to turn this thing around and get back to the America we know and love.
00:36:06.660
In talking with president Trump, uh, for the, for the interview, uh, he said something that I think
00:36:15.220
people, I, I hope are paying great attention to. He believes without question that the greatest
00:36:21.700
danger to this Republic is from within, uh, that there are, as he put it, very dangerous people
00:36:27.580
who mean to take over this country and mean to turn away our constitutional Republic, uh, to turn away
00:36:36.000
our, uh, our concepts of democracy and what it means to be American. Uh, that to me is chilling.
00:36:43.680
When a man has gone through what he's gone through, it has emerged standing up and no one knows better.
00:36:49.120
The forces arrayed against him, whether it's the deep state, the permanent bureaucracy,
00:36:52.620
the Marxist of the democratic party, uh, the indoctrinators of our educational system,
00:36:58.840
universities and colleges. Uh, he has, I mean, the United States military for crying out loud,
00:37:04.860
he is commander in chief could not, could not count on their, uh, support. Uh, and I think he would
00:37:12.940
have settled for just their lack of opposition would have been a fair balance, but it wasn't.
00:37:17.980
Uh, so I, I, I don't know how we get this thing straightened around. I, I haven't gotten
00:37:23.140
the chairman of the chairman of the joint chiefs who's had a storied, uh, uh, career in the army
00:37:29.800
and a graduate of Princeton university takes it upon himself to reach out to the PLA, the people's
00:37:37.380
liberation army, senior commander to talk to him about, Oh, you know, don't worry about what happened
00:37:42.840
on, uh, on, uh, on, on January 6th. Uh, we're in control. You don't have to worry. There's not
00:37:47.740
going to be any nuclear strikes. It is to me, that is not just in subordination. I think that's
00:37:53.760
treason. And, uh, I think it's shocking. Uh, it's been exposed by Woodward and, and, and Costa in
00:37:59.340
their book. Nobody denied it. Uh, I think it's one of the first hearings we have to have when we take
00:38:04.020
back over after November, it's extremely scary, uh, what's going on. And this is the military chain
00:38:10.660
of command. It's the national security apparatus. It's the intelligence community. You know, people call
00:38:15.620
it the deep state. I say, there's nothing deep about it. It's up in your face every day. Look
00:38:19.820
at the 42, uh, senior intelligence officials that signed a letter, uh, to, to, uh, to Trump that
00:38:26.940
went to immediately went to the New York times saying that, uh, that, uh, the, the hard drive
00:38:32.720
from hell, the laptop from hell, Hunter Biden, which I was proud of being one of the people
00:38:36.200
that, uh, that worked on that project to get it released by the New York post said that it was
00:38:41.060
Russian disinformation and Joe Biden stood in front of the American people at a debate and lied to
00:38:45.260
their face when this was obviously the New York post who are pretty tough, smart people checked it
00:38:50.140
out. This was an actual laptop with a hundred Biden's real materials that was delivered to Chris
00:38:56.080
Ray, the head of the FBI and to bill Barr at DOJ in December of 2019. They had this thing almost for
00:39:02.380
nine months when we gave it to the New York post and to know that almost two years later, right.
00:39:08.200
Or a year and a half later, the New York times and the Washington post are now deemed to say,
00:39:12.280
yes, uh, war room was right. Remember we're taking down off Twitter because my cohost Jack
00:39:17.260
Maxey kept putting up all the stuff that's coming out now in the, in the mainstream media. We were
00:39:22.460
putting that up in September and October of 2020. And at the time they said, this is Russian
00:39:28.120
disinformation. They took us down from Twitter because of that. Uh, it shows you how these tech
00:39:32.700
oligarchs, big corporations, the deep state, uh, and, uh, and the democratic party in big media work
00:39:38.700
together. I mean, it's obviously they're working inclusion with each other. It's obvious it's,
00:39:42.520
it's, it's the, the, you don't even have to be that sophisticated to connect the dots.
00:39:47.860
That's what, when president Trump says in with Donald J. Trump, who had to face off the moves
00:39:52.700
in Iran, Erdogan, Turkey, Putin in Russia, Xi in China, and, uh, in a mini me in, uh, in North Korea,
00:40:00.940
when he had to face the worst, the worst group of gangsters ever to work together on the,
00:40:05.960
in the history of the planet, what Donald Trump had to work to face those guys down to keep the
00:40:09.700
peace in the Gulf, in Eastern Europe, in the South China Sea, and up there in the, in the Korean
00:40:14.920
peninsula. When Donald Trump can look those gangsters and then turn around, tell Lou Dobbs,
00:40:19.220
by the way, our biggest problem, our biggest enemies are internally United States. People
00:40:23.260
in the United States are understand something. We have some big enemies here in this country.
00:40:27.680
Okay. Because Trump has faced an all-star team of, uh, of gangsters and stared them down.
00:40:34.600
And to know that he would sit there and say that shows you the depth of the problem we have.
00:40:38.740
You know, and I, I've said this for some time that, uh, Donald Trump is, is the only, uh, man I know
00:40:46.920
who could have possibly, uh, contested with these dark forces. Uh, they may be, uh, and are clearly in
00:40:56.620
your face, but they are also operating in shadows as well. And lurking almost, and I can't think of an
00:41:03.380
institution that is untouched by their, their evil. I really can't, uh, whether it be the church, uh,
00:41:09.700
whether it be government, whether it be academia, uh, the military, uh, you name it, these forces are
00:41:17.460
arrayed and we have to contend in a far more vigorous fashion.
00:41:22.580
And we can't make it past November. If we don't, if we don't take the house and the Senate back
00:41:26.920
and literally impeach Biden in our first act in, in this, in January of 2023, you're not going to
00:41:33.400
have a country. You're not going to have a country that you recognize. You're going to have a country
00:41:37.180
that's, uh, that's, um, the school system has nothing but the Disney type of philosophy in it.
00:41:43.020
You're going to have an economy that's out of control. The oligarchs make money and the people
00:41:46.500
are nothing but serfs. You're going to have five or 6 million illegal aliens coming to the country
00:41:51.460
this year. You're not going to recognize the United States of America and the people that are going to
00:41:55.160
be crushed the most are working class Hispanics and African-Americans. They are nothing. Just
00:41:59.680
like the people in Ukraine are cannon fodder to the EU, NATO, and to the Russians, the, the people,
00:42:06.020
the working class in this country are cannon fodder to the globalists. And so it, if it goes,
00:42:11.260
if we don't take back control of the house, and I mean by overwhelming majorities in the Senate,
00:42:16.020
if we don't get to 55 seats and if the house, I keep saying, we have to get to 60, 70, 80,
00:42:20.860
a hundred seats, something that could go a decade before it could be reversed at least
00:42:25.400
and essentially destroy the democratic party. And it has to be destroyed. And I mean this,
00:42:30.480
the democratic, but without violence, but at the ballot box, it has to be destroyed as a national
00:42:35.180
political institution from school boards, to county supervisors, to town councils, all the way to state
00:42:40.460
legislatures, uh, the governorships, the secretaries of state, DAs, local DAs, house and Senate,
00:42:46.500
and eventually to restore Trump to the presidency, um, in, in, in, in 20, in 2024, if not sooner.
00:42:54.180
And I don't care if Jamie Raskin and Benny Thompson and Liz Cheney hate when I say that,
00:42:59.380
right? They're just going to have to live with it. This election was a stolen. Joe Biden is
00:43:03.680
illegitimate. The nation, the nations of the world, the Chinese Communist Party, which I am the only
00:43:08.360
civilian in the history of this Republic to be sanctioned by four minutes into the Biden
00:43:12.860
administration, along with Mike Pompeo and Matt Pottinger and Peter Navarro. And I'm proud of
00:43:17.640
that. Uh, I can tell you, and I know this from well-placed sources inside of China, which I know
00:43:22.980
very well, they have no respect for Biden. They have no respect for Blinken. They have no respect
00:43:27.480
for, uh, for, um, Jake Sullivan. And the reason is they don't think Biden's legitimate. They know
00:43:32.320
what's on the hard drives in the laptop from hell. Hell, they gave Hunter Biden the money. They
00:43:37.360
honey-potted Hunter Biden. They know everything about the Biden-crime family. They do not take him
00:43:41.940
seriously. They think they're a minor league group of, uh, of mafia type gangsters. And this is a
00:43:47.480
situation we have right now because the democratic party in the media, Zuckerberg, the oligarchs in
00:43:52.860
Silicon Valley and, uh, and other media, uh, you know, put this guy in office illegitimate. And this
00:43:58.600
is the problem where this is what we're dealing with. Yeah. And, uh, today, uh, we all witnessed the
00:44:04.540
return of Barack Obama to the white house. Uh, people may forget that, uh, it was rumored that this
00:44:10.280
would be the third term of Barack Obama, the Biden presidency. Uh, and as I saw him, uh, standing up
00:44:16.880
there with Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, uh, respectfully, uh, several paces, uh, to his right
00:44:24.080
and behind, I thought, my God, they aren't here to celebrate Obamacare. They're here to celebrate
00:44:30.880
his upcoming, uh, term, uh, they, for all the world, Steve, it looked to me like they were rehearsing
00:44:38.620
with, uh, Obama back at the lectern and his former vice president who he referred to as his vice
00:44:45.520
president for crying out loud, uh, without even blushing. There wasn't a blush on Joe Biden's
00:44:52.580
face when he did that. Uh, me, me, me. We were, we're reminded of what a narcissistic
00:44:58.700
person he is. Mr. Obama 33 times. He used the first person reference, uh, who don't,
00:45:08.600
don't you miss that level of narcissism? Uh, we've got, we've got, we've got quaint dementia
00:45:13.980
and, uh, uh, and an extraordinary power surging, uh, narcissism and his predecessor, uh, his
00:45:20.860
predecessor. The thing that was most disturbing is he by Biden was just wandering around. I mean,
00:45:27.000
there were all the groupies were up there, you know, praising Obama around the lectern. They
00:45:31.340
couldn't get enough of it. And Joe Biden's just wandering around, nothing to do. This is what's
00:45:36.200
scary. He's, he's got the nuclear codes. He's the commander in chief. Supposedly it's, it's,
00:45:42.260
it's, it's very scary. This is why I think the American people are coming to the fact that,
00:45:46.060
you know, Dan and Martin Lager and I, Dave Bossie is premiering the film rigged. The president
00:45:51.040
Trump's going to, this president Trump's in the film about how Zuckerberg put $400 million
00:45:54.840
in to steal the election. One of many ways it was stolen, but this is what happens when you
00:46:00.040
have a stolen election. You have catastrophic consequences. We have a hapless, reckless, uh, feckless,
00:46:04.860
radical, uh, old man who doesn't obviously have all his composure with Kamala Harris, who, you know,
00:46:13.360
right now the American people, I think 57% of the American people today do not think she should be
00:46:17.820
president. So we're, we're in a jam. We're in a jam. You not only have, uh, this hapless
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administration that between its radicalness and its haplessness is just driving America to the ground.
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You actually have these institutions that are very incentivized to really destroy the country as we
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know it. And this is where the big fight's going to be. The bigger enemies we have are internal right
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now. Uh, I, I don't know how many people have seen just to put a capstone on this by may Steve,
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Joe Biden, uh, with his wife next to him in, uh, what appeared to be tennis shoes, uh, and sweatpants,
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at the christening of a nuclear submarine, our newest nuclear submarine with all of the officers and men
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behind them in absolute dress blues, which you wore, uh, with great distinction yourself. Uh, I mean,
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I wanted, I could not imagine what in the world he was doing. He was kneeling in front of that picture
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with the, all of those officers in there turned out in their finest and his wife and her sneakers,
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uh, and, uh, short pants. I don't know what you would call them, uh, sneakers. I mean, sneakers.
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And I guess, uh, there's some sort of, uh, exercise clothes. It was absolutely embarrassing
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and humiliating. And for those officers to stand there at attention, uh, it was just so disrespectful.
00:47:50.280
And this man is so he is, I, I, we've never had a president like this, uh, president who just simply
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does not belong. Forget the question of whether he's fit. He's not, he doesn't belong there and
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he needs to be, uh, onto something better suited for him. Don't you agree? I, uh, a thousand percent
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agree. The photo being a former Naval officer, it's so shocking. I assume he was trying to do the
00:48:16.180
black lives matter, Neil. Um, I almost hope that was it. And as disgusting, as disgraceful as that
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is, it'd be better. I have no idea what he was doing. I don't think the officers did. It was,
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it was in the annals of this country. And remember the first head of our army became the first commander
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in chief president of Washington, right? To think of the leaders we've had, even civilians who became
00:48:40.840
great war leaders like Abraham Lincoln, like FDR, like Ronald Reagan. And then you think of the
00:48:46.960
military commanders had the president's like Grant and Eisenhower and others. It is a Naval officer.
00:48:52.120
It was, and it's, look, it's a fleet ballistic missile submarine. It is the most, uh, valued,
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uh, you know, a weapon system we have even greater than an aircraft carrier about deterrence to keep the
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American people safe. And, and the nuclear power engineering from Admiral Rickover's day down to
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the present are just the elite of the elite, the creme de la creme of the academy, the RTC programs.
00:49:15.480
I mean, this is the finest and the pressure they're under for these nuclear things. It's just incredible
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to see that. It's almost breathtaking. You sit there and go, is he, is he, you can't as bad and as,
00:49:28.320
as, as disgusting as him kneeling for the black lives matter situation. I almost hope that's it.
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Cause there's a twisted mind that something other than that, I have no idea what he's doing. I,
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I've, I've looked at that photo. I don't want to say for hours, but I'm so gosh, I have so many
00:49:43.940
former Naval officer friends and colleagues have called me and go, how can you, when you have the
00:49:49.120
South China Sea in play and you have the Chinese Navy, that's already planning for an amphibious
00:49:55.520
assault onto Taiwan with the seventh fleet, the revered and historic seventh fleet to beat the
00:50:00.560
Japanese in world war two Island by Island, uh, from Midway all the way, you know, all the way to,
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to, to, to, to the, the bombing of, uh, of, uh, Tokyo and then the nuclear weapon to know that that
00:50:13.460
fleet has someone like Joe Biden in charge of it is, it boggles imagination. It just boggles the
00:50:20.760
imagination. And our enemies are laughing at us. They're laughing at us. They're laughing at us
00:50:25.960
right now. And Trump has told us this. And he, you know, Trump is president Trump is sitting there.
00:50:30.100
I think he just shakes his head because it's so incredible. And that's what happens when you have
00:50:34.240
stolen elections, American people didn't get a chance to bet this guy. This is what, this is what
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you get. I, I couldn't help, but think that Obama in the white house was a rehearsal for the, for the
00:50:45.800
near future. And I couldn't help, but think when I looked at that picture, uh, of Biden nailing,
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uh, that it was a secret signal to Xi Jinping. Uh, and I don't want to think about too much,
00:50:59.020
the implications of that. Uh, but, uh, I fear the worst. And I think everybody in this country
00:51:04.480
right now should, should fear the worst and be preparing to, to change the arc of history
00:51:10.700
from what both Obama and Biden and Kamala Harris and the cabal that manages them day to day,
00:51:18.440
uh, have in mind for us. I think we need to surprise them. And I need, I think we need to
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surprise them this year. And I hope, uh, everyone listening will consider this plea.
00:51:29.780
Please get engaged in your local elections as a poll watcher, whatever it takes, but be engaged
00:51:37.060
and be vigilant. And let's return this country to what we all recognize as America.
00:51:44.060
Steve, we have a tradition, as you know, in this show of always giving our guests, the last
00:51:52.380
I love the Lou Dobbs show and I'm glad Lou's back from off the beach. I'm glad Deb getting
00:52:02.700
Lou's back in the fight and at the, at the, one of the thought leaders in the country.
00:52:06.320
And, uh, I think everybody can't thank you enough, Lou, but it's great to watch and listen
00:52:10.760
to your show. And it's great to, uh, it's great to participate.
00:52:14.420
Steve Bannon. It's great to call you friend. And I thank you so much for being with us here.
00:52:19.240
Uh, always, uh, always great talking with you. And I always learn something. We thank you so much
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for all you do for the country. Uh, and God bless you. Thanks again to Steve Bannon, a good friend
00:52:30.800
and an absolutely tireless warrior for conservatives everywhere. A great American. Thank you for being
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with us today. Coming up this week, one of the smartest Congressman on Capitol Hill,
00:52:42.220
Daryl Issa documentary producer, David Bossy on his latest blockbuster on the 2020 election
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entitled rigged. What else would it be named? And fierce conservative, great American Congressman
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Marjorie Taylor green and author of obstruction of justice, Luke Rosiak and former commissioner of
00:53:04.500
the customs and border patrol Mark Morgan on what may soon materialize as the largest mass illegal
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immigrant influx across our Southern border in our country's history. Thanks everybody for being