Joe Biden has been accused of lying to the FBI, lying to Congress, lying in his job interview, and lying in front of the American public. What is the next step? What should Congress do now that they have all the evidence against him?
00:03:06.440I would watch coming out of the September of the summer recess when Congress comes back in early September for them to take all these investigations,
00:03:16.020put them into a select committee, not an impeachment committee, but a select committee to get the remaining evidence.
00:03:22.100We still got some big questions out there.
00:03:23.740Did Joe Biden get financial benefit or money like the FBI informant told the FBI and the FBI didn't appear to investigate?
00:03:31.440That's a very important aspect of this.
00:03:34.520Did Joe Biden change any foreign U.S. policies to benefit Hunter Biden?
00:03:40.380That would be a major next step in this.
00:04:12.060A select committee can escalate those fights and try to get the remainder of the story out so that by the end of the year, Republicans can make an informed decision and tell the American people, here's why we're going to impeach Joe Biden or here's why we're not going to impeach Joe Biden.
00:04:27.080And I think that that's the next step.
00:04:29.100A select committee can move more quickly.
00:04:31.320It can synthesize multiple storylines from multiple committees into an overarching narrative of the culture of corruption that Joe Biden now represents.
00:04:39.380And he can get those last remaining questions.
00:04:42.340And then a decision probably in December or January whether to move forward with impeachment.
00:04:47.020I think that that's the step forward based on the reporting I'm doing.
00:04:50.300What powers does a select committee have as opposed to the oversight committee or the judiciary committee in their traditional oversight roles?
00:05:06.440Maybe the judiciary committee had something from a whistleblower and the oversight committee had something from a document and the ways and means committee got something from the IRS.
00:05:14.940The select committee can take all of that and organize it into a way that everyday Americans can understand what's going on.
00:05:22.720We did it after 9-11 when House Intelligence, House Judiciary, House Oversight, and many others had to pull disparate ideas together so we can understand how did we get sucker punched by terrorists?
00:05:32.700How did the most powerful country in the world do that?
00:05:34.900You saw last year the Democrats take sort of a fake investigation but at least make it a cohesive story with the select committee on January 6th.
00:05:42.920Now, of course, they use that committee to avoid most of the evidence that could have come out, and they kept the Republicans on the sidelines, which was their strategy.
00:05:50.040We don't want to have smart Republicans on the committee because they might expose the stories that we don't want to put out there.
00:05:55.340But a select committee has the ability to pull disparate oversights into a singular narrative.
00:06:00.640I think right now things are piecemeal.
00:06:02.480We get something amazing from Jim Jordan one day, James Comer the next day, and people are saying, well, how do I connect all these things?
00:06:32.520We suddenly realized, OK, the White House Lincoln bedroom and the Buddhist monks and all those, they were all part of an operation to drain Asia money into the United States, foreign money into the United States, disguise it.
00:09:05.960So he abused power in his vice president office, according to the testimony, and then he lied about it to get elected and get promoted from vice president, passed to president.
00:09:17.440That could very potentially affect the ability of Joe Biden to get reelected in 2024.
00:09:22.900People are going to say, you looked in the camera and you just lied to me.
00:09:26.660You were trading policy or you were meeting with business partners so your family could get rich.
00:09:32.020The president is a very personal decision.
00:09:34.480And I think the notion that Joe Biden was willing to look into the camera in 2020 and say that isn't true when it was, not once, not twice, but five or six times, I think that could have a profound effect on the 2024 election.
00:09:48.460And really, the ultimate jury of the impeachment or whatever this is going to be is going to be the 2024 voters.
00:09:55.200They're going to say, hey, we gave this guy a chance to be president based on these things, and we're finding out they're not true.
00:10:00.820So that's going to be a very different dynamic than what Bill Clinton faced in 1996.
00:10:06.660He really could run on the economy then.
00:10:08.720And there was some whitewater scandal from the Arkansas days.
00:10:11.900But, you know, in the second term, there were things he did as president that became consequential.
00:10:16.680I think Joe Biden's already at that point before reelection.
00:10:20.120We're talking with John Solomon, editor in chief of Just the News.
00:10:38.060And, John, I want to turn to what we do know now.
00:10:41.300And what we do know, and in large measure, much of it is serendipitous as well as the work product of four investigating committees.
00:10:52.280We do know that Bill Barr plays a central role in what happened in the 2020 election.
00:10:59.260We do know that, and we know that the 51 veterans of the intelligence community, including five former directors of the CIA, were complicit and active and perhaps determinate in the outcome of that election.
00:11:21.700Yeah, listen, I think we're still trying to understand what Bill Barr did and didn't do, what he says he did versus what actually happened.
00:11:28.160And I think the fact pattern, as he lays out on his various media interviews, sometimes doesn't match what I saw in real time.
00:11:36.440And clearly, he put trust in the institutions of a U.S. attorney's office, which clearly didn't take the full weight of the evidence and run with it.
00:11:46.180Instead, they tried to give a sweetheart deal.
00:11:47.940So I think Bill Barr was a guy that thought he was doing the right things and in so doing may have put too much reliance on a judicial system or a justice department that clearly still favors the rich and the powerful and the connected over everyday people.
00:12:04.520And you can see that in just how the special prosecutor's investigation with Russia collusion ended up.
00:12:12.880Most people that did something wrong walked away unscathed, right?
00:12:16.700And in Joe Biden, Bill Barr made a decision that Hunter Biden's sins were somehow couldn't be prosecuted in the window for election.
00:12:27.220But those were not charges involving Joe Biden.
00:12:30.580There was nothing that prevented the American people from understanding that Hunter Biden did something wrong and it wasn't meddling against Joe Biden to acknowledge it, right?
00:12:39.280For some reason, he created the election window and he wasn't he was also inconsistent.
00:13:01.200Why were you willing to acknowledge that but not Hunter Biden?
00:13:03.520There's an inconsistency in the behavior of Bill Barr by his own standards that he's never answered.
00:13:09.840And why he went to Delaware when of the tax crimes at the time that were alleged occurred in Washington, D.C., in in California, because that's where Hunter Biden was residing at the time, are all mystifying to people.
00:13:23.820And I don't think I think at some point there'd be a value in House Republicans calling him before Congress and saying you did this and this and this.
00:13:30.820Why? Why did you appoint a Delaware U.S. attorney when the crimes you had before you were in Virginia and excuse me, in Washington, in California?
00:13:39.580Why didn't you give him special counsel status to overcome that?
00:13:43.000The media interviews that have been done with Bill Barr haven't asked, I think, the probative questions that would get the right answers.
00:14:48.360He, the director of the FBI at that time, Bill Barr, was in possession of the Hunter Biden laptop from hell since December of 2019.
00:14:59.300He was also sending off his agents to create some considerable havoc with social media and big tech.
00:15:10.100And even now we're seeing a number of the agents being prosecuted for that as a result of the relationships they developed, which were really basically demanding that social voices, that conservative voices be simply snuffed out by social media and that big tech had a free hand in screwing the outcome of the 2020 election.
00:15:35.960But in so many places, Bill Barr is at the nexus of what turned out to be an awfully rigged election, don't you think?
00:15:45.620Well, listen, Joe Biden was allowed to lie his way into office and the evidence that contradiction was sitting in the Justice Department's files and the FBI's files.
00:15:55.520I think they're going to be great questions soon in the reporting I'm doing about whether the Justice Department and State Department actually provided the exculpatory evidence that could have made a difference in President Trump's first impeachment trial.
00:16:08.740I think that's another thing in all the reporting I've done.
00:16:11.640And again, until Bill Barr and I sit across from each other, if that ever is possible, I won't know the answer.
00:16:16.680But I will say this. I think Bill Barr in his most recent interviews has acknowledged something that may be the ultimate truism of his term.
00:16:24.920I think he assumed the Justice Department worked the way it did in the 1990s and it was 2020 and there was clear evidence it wasn't.
00:16:32.040The Russia collusion story made everybody clear that the Justice Department wasn't the same Justice Department of yesterday.
00:16:37.540He was an institutionalist who put faith in an institution that had serious signs of decay and failure and bias.
00:16:46.040And in so doing, he changed the course of history.
00:16:49.480He allowed these flawed institutions that were caught cheating on FISA, caught cheating on investigating people without a basis to continue to oversee very important investigations without independence.
00:17:04.200And I think that's how you end up with the Hunter Biden case being swept under the rug until 2022, 2023.
00:17:10.420History will look back and say, he told us the institutions are flawed, but then he put new trust in them and they acted the same way again.
00:17:17.440And I think that will be Bill Barr's ultimate verdict from history, given the evidence that we now know.
00:17:22.300And I think a lot of his friends have told me that, that that's how they view this.
00:17:26.260He knew the institutions are flawed, but he gave him another shot.
00:17:28.540Well, they acted the way they did the last time they were flawed.
00:17:31.980And I think that's how history may look at him.
00:17:34.720When we continue with John Solomon, we're going to find out what John thinks about the reasons of motivation then for this erstwhile Pollyanna Bill Barr to be trying to convict Donald Trump.
00:17:49.440We'll take that up right after this break.
00:17:51.220We're back with the great John Solomon.
00:17:59.260John, Bill Barr, I guess there are lots of ways to rationalize, to explain, to to explicate some of his judgments and his thinking.
00:18:10.060But I really, I really just don't see anything here but a man who has been great trouble for Donald Trump, an institutionalist, you call him.
00:18:20.140I would call him without a question a great friend of the deep state.
00:18:25.720He appears to be both a participant in the plot to overthrow the president as well as a central figure in the cover up.
00:18:36.740Give us your thinking on that as we conclude here on this edition of the Great America Show.
00:18:48.080Listen, I think Bill Barr is a complicated character because he comes in and does what Jeff Sessions failed to do, which is to expose the Russia collusion case for what it was.
00:18:55.180And he sets in motion a whole process and that process informs him and the American public that we have an FBI in the Justice Department that engaged in politics, played a dirty trick on the American people as well as the incumbent president.
00:19:07.840And then for some reason that escapes explanation, he puts trust in that very unfixed, untrusted, failed system to do the right thing on Hunter Biden.
00:19:17.940And then he wonders why it didn't turn out the way he thought it would.
00:19:23.180The agencies hadn't been fixed enough to put the trust in him to actually do this.
00:19:26.720He could have done some very simple things, named a special prosecutor for Hunter Biden, and that would have moved the independents to these prosecutor and away from some of the partisans.
00:19:36.140Somewhere in late 2020 into November, December, he clearly, I take him at his word, that he came to the conclusion that he didn't believe President Trump had the temperament to be president anymore.
00:19:48.520So a guy he liked serving and wanted to serve, he came to a different conclusion about, particularly in the aftermath of the November 2020 election.
00:19:57.400By the way, I've talked to other officials who work for President Trump that have come to that same conclusion.
00:20:01.960Bill Barr represents several people that worked for President Trump in the latter year of his presidency who now think that he doesn't have the temperament.
00:20:11.080Mike Pence has flip-flopped on this and others.
00:20:13.600There are just people that feel that way after working for Donald Trump.
00:20:17.020Now he's going to be, by his own admission, willing to try to use the legal system cases against Donald Trump to make the argument to the American people that President Trump shouldn't deserve another term.
00:20:28.360People are going to judge those actions for what they are.
00:20:30.940And let's just take a look at one good example of Mike Pence.
00:20:33.780Mike Pence gave this really robust round of interviews this week.
00:20:37.000Oh, I knew Donald Trump was full of malarkey when he was saying the election was stolen.
00:20:41.780Well, again, but Mike Pence, on January 4th in the state of Georgia, you told us you shared his concerns and that everyone's voice could be heard on January 6th.
00:20:50.400Were you lying then or are you lying now?
00:20:52.980Some of these officials are going to face that sort of interrogation if they become witnesses against President Trump and Trump's legal team finally gets to interrogate them in the court of law.
00:21:03.500They're not getting asked hard questions in the court of public opinion by softball journalists.
00:21:07.760But, you know, Mike Pence has to answer when you on January 4th, you said you shared the concerns and there were real concerns about election integrity and your people's voice are going to be heard on 6th.
00:21:31.000Did you investigate the Carter Jones report in Fulton County that laid out clear irregularities?
00:21:37.020Did you know about the Iranians hacking a voter database, stealing 100,000 voters and using it in operation?
00:21:42.600If so, why would you say it was a perfect election?
00:21:45.040These are the sort of things that President Trump's lawyers will be able to cross-examine these officials if Jack Smith has the courage to put them on the stand against the president.
00:21:52.940It's one thing to mention him in an indictment.
00:21:54.800It's another thing to bring him into the courtroom.
00:21:56.340I think President Trump will be able to cross-examine some of his former aides who flipped against him, examine some of the people who are still with him.
00:22:03.160And I think we'll get some new things.
00:22:04.800Keep in mind, everybody told us in December of 20, there were no foreign intrusions, no hacking.
00:22:11.340That's so important to observe, that we were told there were no hackings of voter databases and no foreign intrusions in the 2020 election.
00:22:21.480Chris Krebs and Brad Rafsenberger gave us the, it was a perfect election thing.
00:22:26.900And then in the months that ensued with reporting, I did, and eventually a case that came out, we found out the Iranians did hack a database in the middle of the 2020 election.
00:22:36.100A state voter database assumed the identities of voters that they had stolen, and they ran an influence operation.
00:22:41.320That is very different from what we were assured in November, December of 2020.
00:22:45.700Brad Rafsenberger said, oh, we had a perfect election in Georgia, and then said, oh, no, I had this Carter-Jones report.
00:22:50.880My own guy saw all sorts of calamity in Fulton County.
00:22:54.480Now, it doesn't mean that it would have changed the outcome, but we weren't given an honest picture.
00:23:00.520Some of those things are going to be at the ability of President Trump's lawyers to draw out and to inform the American public about things that the mainstream media probably have kept under wraps about the 2020 election.
00:23:11.320So much has been kept under wraps, and a breaking story across the country, Michigan law enforcement revealing a voter fraud incident, a group funded by Joe Biden's 2020 presidential campaign, submitting fraudulent voter registrations and votes.
00:23:33.880We don't know how big it is at this point, but we do know it's extensive, and it may have been replicated in other parts of the country.
00:23:40.360It's a challenging thing because Republicans also can't take their eye off the ball in 2024.
00:23:47.700They've got to get in the game of early voting.
00:23:49.360That's how they've lost some ground to Democrats in the last few elections.
00:23:54.200You want to put a finality to 2020 because Congress never got there, never did it after the 2020 election.
00:23:59.480So the court system probably becomes that venue for some of that.
00:24:02.340And at the same time, while whatever happened in 20 and 2022, you need a Republican Party that's going to be focused on how do we win 2024 on the issues and tactics of 2024?
00:24:12.020Because Republicans have really been two elections behind on the strategies of Democrats starting in 2018.
00:24:18.500They can't afford to be behind in 2024.
00:24:20.680They're going to have the same outcome as the last two elections.
00:24:22.660So they're going to have to balance both.
00:24:24.520But I do believe the court gives President Trump potentially an opportunity to litigate some issues that are in his favor or that Americans haven't fully appreciated.
00:24:33.120And then the rest of the party has to focus on making sure that they have a strategy that's different than 2022 and 2020 when they underperformed in the elections.
00:24:57.500And here tomorrow, our guest is Dr. Judith Curry, professor of atmospheric sciences from Georgia Tech, who's taken on the left wing climate change orthodoxy.
00:25:07.180Be with us for that fascinating professor and her views on climate change and, well, just plain malarkey, as Mr. Biden likes to say.
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