The Great America Show - August 21, 2023


BARR DID BIDEN’S BIDDING

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Voter Fraud in 2020 election
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Lou Dobbs John Fawcett
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Hunter Biden Joe Biden Bill Barr Donald Trump John Solomon Hillary Clinton Mike Pence Monica Lewinsky Brad Rafsenberger Devin Archer Fred Thompson Jeff Sessions Judith Curry James Comer Chris Krebs Tom Steyer Jim Jordan Mike Flynn Jack Smith Politico and 1 more
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Joe Biden has been accused of lying to the FBI, lying to Congress, lying in his job interview, and lying in front of the American public. What is the next step? What should Congress do now that they have all the evidence against him?

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00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.
00:00:05.780 Thanks for being with us.
00:00:07.040 I'm Lou Dobbs.
00:00:08.520 Our president is in Hawaii today after last week telling reporters no comment when asked
00:00:14.420 about the almost two weeks ago wildfire disaster on Maui and what is now expected to be a death
00:00:21.400 toll in the hundreds.
00:00:23.120 Biden's there now after going to stay in the Lake Tahoe mansion he rented from dim oligarch
00:00:28.980 and donor Tom Steyer after being on vacation last week.
00:00:34.340 This impaired puppet of a president has compromised our national security to unprecedented levels 1.00
00:00:40.920 of vulnerability.
00:00:42.580 Gateway Pundit reporting Hunter Biden's attorney leaked the entire case file on the DOJ's five-year
00:00:49.180 investigation.
00:00:50.800 The New York Times and Politico revealing new shocking information about the DOJ and that
00:00:56.700 case.
00:00:57.180 The Times reporting Biden's attorneys lobbied the Department of Justice to prosecute the
00:01:03.380 IRS whistleblowers instead of Hunter Biden.
00:01:07.620 And Politico revealed that Hunter Biden was involved in the Ukraine impeachment investigation
00:01:12.800 of President Trump and met with impeachment attorneys in January of 2020 as the Marxist 0.77
00:01:20.460 Dems lied throughout their effort with the deep state to overthrow Trump's presidency.
00:01:26.320 No one reported on the Trump presidency and with greater clarity and accuracy than John
00:01:32.000 Solomon.
00:01:33.020 John is the editor of Just the News and is our guest today, I'm pleased to say.
00:01:37.860 John, always great to have you with us.
00:01:40.020 These four House investigating committees have done amazing work producing important evidence
00:01:45.340 and closing in now on President Biden.
00:01:48.320 Yeah, I agree.
00:01:49.860 I think the most important thing that Republicans had to do was unravel a bunch of false stories
00:01:54.320 that had been force fed to the American people for really three years.
00:01:58.300 Everything from the laptop was Russian disinformation to Joe Biden never got any money from China to Joe
00:02:04.840 Biden never had any contact with his business partners to Hunter Biden didn't do anything wrong.
00:02:09.240 And all of those have been unraveled in about seven months.
00:02:12.780 And now the question is, what is the next step?
00:02:15.760 All right.
00:02:16.020 We now know that Joe Biden lied his way into the in his job interview for the White House.
00:02:21.840 He lied his way into the White House.
00:02:23.000 He told us four or five seminal things to downplay the influence peddling scandal in his family.
00:02:28.900 And he got in office and now the American public are finding out that none of those things were true.
00:02:34.720 And I think that that's a very powerful moment for a president to look in the camera and get caught in multiple lies.
00:02:39.440 And by the way, these stories are getting out even when the mainstream news media aren't covering them.
00:02:44.360 You see the polling data moving.
00:02:46.100 You're seeing Americans, despite The New York Times and The Washington Post, 0.97
00:02:49.160 understand they were lied to and that serious things happen.
00:02:52.760 The question is, where does Congress go next?
00:02:54.720 How do they take all these disparate things into a into a more sensical final investigation and from an investigation to the consequence?
00:03:05.040 How do you punish Joe Biden?
00:03:06.440 I would watch coming out of the September of the summer recess when Congress comes back in early September for them to take all these investigations,
00:03:16.020 put them into a select committee, not an impeachment committee, but a select committee to get the remaining evidence.
00:03:22.100 We still got some big questions out there.
00:03:23.740 Did Joe Biden get financial benefit or money like the FBI informant told the FBI and the FBI didn't appear to investigate?
00:03:31.440 That's a very important aspect of this.
00:03:34.520 Did Joe Biden change any foreign U.S. policies to benefit Hunter Biden?
00:03:40.380 That would be a major next step in this.
00:03:42.740 All right.
00:03:42.820 We know he lied.
00:03:43.980 We know Hunter Biden was trading on the family name.
00:03:46.300 Democrats can't even claim that anymore.
00:03:47.920 So they stopped.
00:03:48.540 But I do think that there are significant facts that still can be obtained through subpoenas and compelling.
00:03:58.880 Most of the stuff that Democrats got so far is low hanging fruit.
00:04:02.800 They've got a lot of it.
00:04:03.540 They've done a good job.
00:04:04.660 But now there are more reluctant people that aren't coming forward.
00:04:07.320 There are more.
00:04:07.980 There are documents that are being withheld.
00:04:10.020 Those, I think, are the next round.
00:04:12.060 A select committee can escalate those fights and try to get the remainder of the story out so that by the end of the year, Republicans can make an informed decision and tell the American people, here's why we're going to impeach Joe Biden or here's why we're not going to impeach Joe Biden.
00:04:27.080 And I think that that's the next step.
00:04:29.100 A select committee can move more quickly.
00:04:31.320 It can synthesize multiple storylines from multiple committees into an overarching narrative of the culture of corruption that Joe Biden now represents.
00:04:39.380 And he can get those last remaining questions.
00:04:41.420 I'd watch for that.
00:04:42.340 And then a decision probably in December or January whether to move forward with impeachment.
00:04:47.020 I think that that's the step forward based on the reporting I'm doing.
00:04:50.300 What powers does a select committee have as opposed to the oversight committee or the judiciary committee in their traditional oversight roles?
00:05:00.120 The powers are the same.
00:05:01.500 I think the coordination becomes a little bit easier to do.
00:05:04.660 You're able to take disparate items.
00:05:06.440 Maybe the judiciary committee had something from a whistleblower and the oversight committee had something from a document and the ways and means committee got something from the IRS.
00:05:14.940 The select committee can take all of that and organize it into a way that everyday Americans can understand what's going on.
00:05:22.720 We did it after 9-11 when House Intelligence, House Judiciary, House Oversight, and many others had to pull disparate ideas together so we can understand how did we get sucker punched by terrorists?
00:05:32.700 How did the most powerful country in the world do that?
00:05:34.900 You saw last year the Democrats take sort of a fake investigation but at least make it a cohesive story with the select committee on January 6th.
00:05:42.920 Now, of course, they use that committee to avoid most of the evidence that could have come out, and they kept the Republicans on the sidelines, which was their strategy.
00:05:50.040 We don't want to have smart Republicans on the committee because they might expose the stories that we don't want to put out there.
00:05:55.340 But a select committee has the ability to pull disparate oversights into a singular narrative.
00:06:00.640 I think right now things are piecemeal.
00:06:02.480 We get something amazing from Jim Jordan one day, James Comer the next day, and people are saying, well, how do I connect all these things?
00:06:08.660 A select committee can do that.
00:06:09.880 One of the good examples of that were in the Senate back in the 90s during the Clinton scandals.
00:06:15.080 Bill Clinton had so many scandals, right?
00:06:18.180 He had Whitewater.
00:06:19.140 He had Monica Lewinsky.
00:06:20.580 He had the China fundraising.
00:06:22.860 The Senate, in Republican hands, focused two committees, one on the China fundraising scandal, which Fred Thompson shared.
00:06:30.920 And we got a very clear narrative.
00:06:32.520 We suddenly realized, OK, the White House Lincoln bedroom and the Buddhist monks and all those, they were all part of an operation to drain Asia money into the United States, foreign money into the United States, disguise it. 0.96
00:06:46.220 And that became a real problem.
00:06:47.580 Likewise, Whitewater led ultimately to the impeachment and Monica Lewinsky.
00:06:51.300 Those sort of committees, I think they focus a lot of disparate facts into a single narrative so that Americans make up.
00:06:58.520 How serious is this?
00:06:59.800 Do I?
00:07:00.160 OK, this is serious.
00:07:01.080 Here's why I do it.
00:07:02.780 I think the way we're doing right now, there's a lot of great revelations, but the story isn't understandable to everyday Americans.
00:07:10.060 It's getting there.
00:07:10.960 But I think a select committee, I think, would organize the thoughts and get a narrative that supports impeachment in time for January.
00:07:18.360 Or if they don't have it, say, hey, we don't have it.
00:07:20.580 We'll go into the election with what we do have.
00:07:22.840 You know, as you recount the scandals of the Clinton years.
00:07:28.580 Oh, yes.
00:07:29.200 But we have to remind ourselves that Bill Clinton was a two-term president.
00:07:34.280 That's right.
00:07:35.020 And not only that, he was a very successful president.
00:07:37.920 I don't think anyone would argue with that either, despite all of those scandals.
00:07:43.940 Why should we not fear the same possibility?
00:07:47.740 Yeah, listen, I think there's something a little bit different about Bill Clinton and the Biden scandals.
00:07:57.220 And they were all very cogent.
00:07:58.880 In fact, the most serious of the offenses in the Bill Clinton presidency occurred in the beginning of a second term.
00:08:05.240 The 1996 re-election, he drained all that China money to get re-elected.
00:08:10.320 And he had the inappropriate relationship with Monica Lewinsky in 97, 98, going into the 98 impeachment.
00:08:17.460 Joe Biden's offenses began the last time he was in power.
00:08:23.900 We now realized what a crooked, corrupt system he and his son were running.
00:08:29.840 What did Devin Archer call it?
00:08:31.280 A brand.
00:08:31.940 You got Joe Biden and Hunter Biden for the price of one.
00:08:34.760 And Joe Biden bought you protection.
00:08:36.600 And specifically in the case of Burisma, what type of protection was that?
00:08:39.720 No one would legally mess with Burisma as long as Hunter Biden was on the board.
00:08:42.940 That was the value proposition.
00:08:44.100 We haven't had that clear of an outlay of a pay-to-play influence peddling scandal, certainly not in the Clinton years.
00:08:53.360 The Clinton years, they raised money no matter where it came from, and they didn't care if it was foreign.
00:08:56.680 But here you have a targeting of foreign money to enrich the Biden family.
00:09:00.640 And it was a protection racket by one of the participants in it.
00:09:03.820 That's Devin Archer's own testimony.
00:09:05.960 So he abused power in his vice president office, according to the testimony, and then he lied about it to get elected and get promoted from vice president, passed to president.
00:09:17.440 That could very potentially affect the ability of Joe Biden to get reelected in 2024.
00:09:22.900 People are going to say, you looked in the camera and you just lied to me.
00:09:26.120 Wait a second.
00:09:26.660 You were trading policy or you were meeting with business partners so your family could get rich.
00:09:32.020 The president is a very personal decision.
00:09:34.480 And I think the notion that Joe Biden was willing to look into the camera in 2020 and say that isn't true when it was, not once, not twice, but five or six times, I think that could have a profound effect on the 2024 election.
00:09:48.460 And really, the ultimate jury of the impeachment or whatever this is going to be is going to be the 2024 voters.
00:09:55.200 They're going to say, hey, we gave this guy a chance to be president based on these things, and we're finding out they're not true.
00:10:00.820 So that's going to be a very different dynamic than what Bill Clinton faced in 1996.
00:10:06.660 He really could run on the economy then.
00:10:08.720 And there was some whitewater scandal from the Arkansas days.
00:10:11.900 But, you know, in the second term, there were things he did as president that became consequential.
00:10:16.680 I think Joe Biden's already at that point before reelection.
00:10:20.120 We're talking with John Solomon, editor in chief of Just the News.
00:10:23.300 Please stay with us.
00:10:24.080 We'll be right back.
00:10:25.800 We'll take up scandals past and present.
00:10:28.700 Stay with us.
00:10:30.820 We're back.
00:10:36.460 We're talking with John Solomon.
00:10:38.060 And, John, I want to turn to what we do know now.
00:10:41.300 And what we do know, and in large measure, much of it is serendipitous as well as the work product of four investigating committees.
00:10:52.280 We do know that Bill Barr plays a central role in what happened in the 2020 election.
00:10:59.260 We do know that, and we know that the 51 veterans of the intelligence community, including five former directors of the CIA, were complicit and active and perhaps determinate in the outcome of that election.
00:11:19.700 Your thoughts?
00:11:21.700 Yeah, listen, I think we're still trying to understand what Bill Barr did and didn't do, what he says he did versus what actually happened.
00:11:28.160 And I think the fact pattern, as he lays out on his various media interviews, sometimes doesn't match what I saw in real time.
00:11:36.440 And clearly, he put trust in the institutions of a U.S. attorney's office, which clearly didn't take the full weight of the evidence and run with it.
00:11:46.180 Instead, they tried to give a sweetheart deal.
00:11:47.940 So I think Bill Barr was a guy that thought he was doing the right things and in so doing may have put too much reliance on a judicial system or a justice department that clearly still favors the rich and the powerful and the connected over everyday people.
00:12:04.520 And you can see that in just how the special prosecutor's investigation with Russia collusion ended up.
00:12:12.880 Most people that did something wrong walked away unscathed, right?
00:12:16.700 And in Joe Biden, Bill Barr made a decision that Hunter Biden's sins were somehow couldn't be prosecuted in the window for election.
00:12:27.220 But those were not charges involving Joe Biden.
00:12:30.580 There was nothing that prevented the American people from understanding that Hunter Biden did something wrong and it wasn't meddling against Joe Biden to acknowledge it, right?
00:12:39.280 For some reason, he created the election window and he wasn't he was also inconsistent.
00:12:44.540 You and I have talked about this.
00:12:45.880 He said, I didn't want to meddle in the election.
00:12:47.200 That's why we kept everything secret about Hunter Biden, except he put out documents about Joe Biden in September of 2020.
00:12:54.000 Joe Biden attended the famous Barack Obama January 5th, 2016 meeting to go get Mike Flynn.
00:12:59.460 Well, wait, that affected Joe Biden.
00:13:01.200 Why were you willing to acknowledge that but not Hunter Biden?
00:13:03.520 There's an inconsistency in the behavior of Bill Barr by his own standards that he's never answered.
00:13:09.840 And why he went to Delaware when of the tax crimes at the time that were alleged occurred in Washington, D.C., in in California, because that's where Hunter Biden was residing at the time, are all mystifying to people.
00:13:23.820 And I don't think I think at some point there'd be a value in House Republicans calling him before Congress and saying you did this and this and this.
00:13:30.820 Why? Why did you appoint a Delaware U.S. attorney when the crimes you had before you were in Virginia and excuse me, in Washington, in California?
00:13:39.580 Why didn't you give him special counsel status to overcome that?
00:13:43.000 The media interviews that have been done with Bill Barr haven't asked, I think, the probative questions that would get the right answers.
00:13:48.820 So maybe Congress should do it.
00:13:50.220 I want to give Bill Barr the benefit.
00:13:52.340 I'd like to know these answers.
00:13:53.600 He hasn't been willing to do an interview with me, but I'd sure love to do one with him.
00:13:56.620 You know, oddly enough, and we've tried, he doesn't want to talk to me either.
00:14:02.260 Maybe you and I asked too many follow-up questions.
00:14:05.160 That makes you the problem.
00:14:06.300 Yes.
00:14:06.920 Because otherwise we're entirely charming people, right?
00:14:09.560 Of course we are.
00:14:11.480 It's difficult for me to understand Bill Barr, as you suggest.
00:14:17.480 I think all of us are perplexed.
00:14:19.600 And my anxiety about his motives is they're very high and intense because of a couple of things.
00:14:31.700 One, he acknowledges that he knew Joe Biden was lying in what was the second but final debate of 2020 with President Trump.
00:14:42.460 He lied.
00:14:44.020 Biden lied.
00:14:45.900 Barr knew it.
00:14:47.240 He was in possession.
00:14:48.360 He, the director of the FBI at that time, Bill Barr, was in possession of the Hunter Biden laptop from hell since December of 2019.
00:14:59.300 He was also sending off his agents to create some considerable havoc with social media and big tech.
00:15:10.100 And even now we're seeing a number of the agents being prosecuted for that as a result of the relationships they developed, which were really basically demanding that social voices, that conservative voices be simply snuffed out by social media and that big tech had a free hand in screwing the outcome of the 2020 election.
00:15:35.960 But in so many places, Bill Barr is at the nexus of what turned out to be an awfully rigged election, don't you think?
00:15:45.620 Well, listen, Joe Biden was allowed to lie his way into office and the evidence that contradiction was sitting in the Justice Department's files and the FBI's files.
00:15:55.520 I think they're going to be great questions soon in the reporting I'm doing about whether the Justice Department and State Department actually provided the exculpatory evidence that could have made a difference in President Trump's first impeachment trial.
00:16:08.740 I think that's another thing in all the reporting I've done.
00:16:11.640 And again, until Bill Barr and I sit across from each other, if that ever is possible, I won't know the answer.
00:16:16.680 But I will say this. I think Bill Barr in his most recent interviews has acknowledged something that may be the ultimate truism of his term.
00:16:24.920 I think he assumed the Justice Department worked the way it did in the 1990s and it was 2020 and there was clear evidence it wasn't.
00:16:32.040 The Russia collusion story made everybody clear that the Justice Department wasn't the same Justice Department of yesterday.
00:16:37.540 He was an institutionalist who put faith in an institution that had serious signs of decay and failure and bias.
00:16:46.040 And in so doing, he changed the course of history.
00:16:49.480 He allowed these flawed institutions that were caught cheating on FISA, caught cheating on investigating people without a basis to continue to oversee very important investigations without independence.
00:17:04.200 And I think that's how you end up with the Hunter Biden case being swept under the rug until 2022, 2023.
00:17:10.420 History will look back and say, he told us the institutions are flawed, but then he put new trust in them and they acted the same way again.
00:17:17.440 And I think that will be Bill Barr's ultimate verdict from history, given the evidence that we now know.
00:17:22.300 And I think a lot of his friends have told me that, that that's how they view this.
00:17:25.000 He was an institutionalist.
00:17:26.260 He knew the institutions are flawed, but he gave him another shot.
00:17:28.540 Well, they acted the way they did the last time they were flawed.
00:17:31.980 And I think that's how history may look at him.
00:17:34.720 When we continue with John Solomon, we're going to find out what John thinks about the reasons of motivation then for this erstwhile Pollyanna Bill Barr to be trying to convict Donald Trump.
00:17:48.940 Stay with us.
00:17:49.440 We'll take that up right after this break.
00:17:51.220 We're back with the great John Solomon.
00:17:59.260 John, Bill Barr, I guess there are lots of ways to rationalize, to explain, to to explicate some of his judgments and his thinking.
00:18:10.060 But I really, I really just don't see anything here but a man who has been great trouble for Donald Trump, an institutionalist, you call him.
00:18:20.140 I would call him without a question a great friend of the deep state.
00:18:25.720 He appears to be both a participant in the plot to overthrow the president as well as a central figure in the cover up.
00:18:36.740 Give us your thinking on that as we conclude here on this edition of the Great America Show.
00:18:43.960 Always the last word, our guest.
00:18:46.780 I appreciate that.
00:18:48.080 Listen, I think Bill Barr is a complicated character because he comes in and does what Jeff Sessions failed to do, which is to expose the Russia collusion case for what it was.
00:18:55.180 And he sets in motion a whole process and that process informs him and the American public that we have an FBI in the Justice Department that engaged in politics, played a dirty trick on the American people as well as the incumbent president.
00:19:07.840 And then for some reason that escapes explanation, he puts trust in that very unfixed, untrusted, failed system to do the right thing on Hunter Biden.
00:19:17.940 And then he wonders why it didn't turn out the way he thought it would.
00:19:21.420 I think the answer was self-evident.
00:19:23.180 The agencies hadn't been fixed enough to put the trust in him to actually do this.
00:19:26.720 He could have done some very simple things, named a special prosecutor for Hunter Biden, and that would have moved the independents to these prosecutor and away from some of the partisans.
00:19:36.140 Somewhere in late 2020 into November, December, he clearly, I take him at his word, that he came to the conclusion that he didn't believe President Trump had the temperament to be president anymore.
00:19:48.520 So a guy he liked serving and wanted to serve, he came to a different conclusion about, particularly in the aftermath of the November 2020 election.
00:19:57.400 By the way, I've talked to other officials who work for President Trump that have come to that same conclusion.
00:20:01.960 Bill Barr represents several people that worked for President Trump in the latter year of his presidency who now think that he doesn't have the temperament.
00:20:10.160 They don't like him.
00:20:11.080 Mike Pence has flip-flopped on this and others.
00:20:13.600 There are just people that feel that way after working for Donald Trump.
00:20:17.020 Now he's going to be, by his own admission, willing to try to use the legal system cases against Donald Trump to make the argument to the American people that President Trump shouldn't deserve another term.
00:20:28.360 People are going to judge those actions for what they are.
00:20:30.940 And let's just take a look at one good example of Mike Pence.
00:20:33.780 Mike Pence gave this really robust round of interviews this week.
00:20:37.000 Oh, I knew Donald Trump was full of malarkey when he was saying the election was stolen.
00:20:41.780 Well, again, but Mike Pence, on January 4th in the state of Georgia, you told us you shared his concerns and that everyone's voice could be heard on January 6th.
00:20:50.400 Were you lying then or are you lying now?
00:20:52.980 Some of these officials are going to face that sort of interrogation if they become witnesses against President Trump and Trump's legal team finally gets to interrogate them in the court of law.
00:21:03.500 They're not getting asked hard questions in the court of public opinion by softball journalists.
00:21:07.760 But, you know, Mike Pence has to answer when you on January 4th, you said you shared the concerns and there were real concerns about election integrity and your people's voice are going to be heard on 6th.
00:21:16.720 What did you mean by that?
00:21:17.840 And did you come to a conclusion now or were you lying then?
00:21:21.220 These are the sort of questions journalists aren't asking.
00:21:23.240 But if it gets to a trial, people like Mike Pence and Bill Barr and others will do it.
00:21:27.680 Here's a good question for Bill Barr.
00:21:28.920 You said you investigated it.
00:21:31.000 Did you investigate the Carter Jones report in Fulton County that laid out clear irregularities?
00:21:37.020 Did you know about the Iranians hacking a voter database, stealing 100,000 voters and using it in operation? 1.00
00:21:42.600 If so, why would you say it was a perfect election?
00:21:45.040 These are the sort of things that President Trump's lawyers will be able to cross-examine these officials if Jack Smith has the courage to put them on the stand against the president.
00:21:52.940 It's one thing to mention him in an indictment.
00:21:54.800 It's another thing to bring him into the courtroom.
00:21:56.340 I think President Trump will be able to cross-examine some of his former aides who flipped against him, examine some of the people who are still with him.
00:22:03.160 And I think we'll get some new things.
00:22:04.800 Keep in mind, everybody told us in December of 20, there were no foreign intrusions, no hacking.
00:22:11.340 That's so important to observe, that we were told there were no hackings of voter databases and no foreign intrusions in the 2020 election.
00:22:18.720 We were told on 60 Minutes.
00:22:21.480 Chris Krebs and Brad Rafsenberger gave us the, it was a perfect election thing.
00:22:26.900 And then in the months that ensued with reporting, I did, and eventually a case that came out, we found out the Iranians did hack a database in the middle of the 2020 election.
00:22:36.100 A state voter database assumed the identities of voters that they had stolen, and they ran an influence operation.
00:22:41.320 That is very different from what we were assured in November, December of 2020.
00:22:45.700 Brad Rafsenberger said, oh, we had a perfect election in Georgia, and then said, oh, no, I had this Carter-Jones report.
00:22:50.880 My own guy saw all sorts of calamity in Fulton County.
00:22:54.480 Now, it doesn't mean that it would have changed the outcome, but we weren't given an honest picture.
00:22:58.800 It took us months to get the truth.
00:23:00.520 Some of those things are going to be at the ability of President Trump's lawyers to draw out and to inform the American public about things that the mainstream media probably have kept under wraps about the 2020 election.
00:23:11.320 So much has been kept under wraps, and a breaking story across the country, Michigan law enforcement revealing a voter fraud incident, a group funded by Joe Biden's 2020 presidential campaign, submitting fraudulent voter registrations and votes.
00:23:33.880 We don't know how big it is at this point, but we do know it's extensive, and it may have been replicated in other parts of the country.
00:23:40.360 It's a challenging thing because Republicans also can't take their eye off the ball in 2024.
00:23:47.700 They've got to get in the game of early voting.
00:23:49.360 That's how they've lost some ground to Democrats in the last few elections.
00:23:52.400 So you have to achieve both, right?
00:23:54.200 You want to put a finality to 2020 because Congress never got there, never did it after the 2020 election.
00:23:59.480 So the court system probably becomes that venue for some of that.
00:24:02.340 And at the same time, while whatever happened in 20 and 2022, you need a Republican Party that's going to be focused on how do we win 2024 on the issues and tactics of 2024?
00:24:12.020 Because Republicans have really been two elections behind on the strategies of Democrats starting in 2018.
00:24:18.500 They can't afford to be behind in 2024.
00:24:20.680 They're going to have the same outcome as the last two elections.
00:24:22.660 So they're going to have to balance both.
00:24:24.520 But I do believe the court gives President Trump potentially an opportunity to litigate some issues that are in his favor or that Americans haven't fully appreciated.
00:24:33.120 And then the rest of the party has to focus on making sure that they have a strategy that's different than 2022 and 2020 when they underperformed in the elections.
00:24:42.660 That's a big challenge.
00:24:43.680 We'll see how it plays out.
00:24:44.580 History will tell us.
00:24:46.840 Meanwhile, John Solomon will be telling us what is just the news.
00:24:51.580 We appreciate it so much.
00:24:52.880 Thanks, John, as always.
00:24:54.200 God bless you.
00:24:54.880 You too, Lou.
00:24:55.380 Thank you.
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