The Great America Show - BENZ： BARR HAS ALWAYS BEEN CIA’S CLOSER

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00:00:33.600 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.

00:00:36.520 Delighted to have you with us today.

00:00:38.900 Today, we're going to be talking about all sorts of things.

00:00:42.000 Well, secret, top secret, classified, and utter skullduggery by, of course, our good friends in the permanent bureaucracy, the deep state.

00:00:52.880 And, yes, even the Satanists in the Marxist-Dim Biden regime.

00:00:59.120 What a time we're having, right, folks?

00:01:01.040 I mean, this is amazing.

00:01:02.080 We are looking at a government that is controlled by the Marxist-Dim's party, that is anti-family, anti-children, anti-American, anti-Christian.

00:01:13.660 We are right now, in my opinion, on the precipice of an extraordinary moment in history because this much evil awash across the entire country, we have never witnessed in our history.

00:01:26.580 And it is frightening to behold, isn't it, because we're watching this administration basically say to Christians, we're going to destroy you, just as they've said to the American family, we're going to destroy you.

00:01:41.660 And to do that, they have the help of the CIA, the NSA, the military-industrial complex, as Michael Benz calls it, the censor enterprise that is working against Americans and our freedom of speech every day and our right to be both expressing ourselves and to be heard.

00:02:04.780 So we have a lot, a lot to talk about today, and Michael Benz, who is the executive director of the Foundation for Freedom Online, is our special guest.

00:02:17.700 And I want you to know that we're going to be talking today about, among other things, a terrific series being done on Netflix.

00:02:25.180 It's called The American Conspiracy, The American Conspiracy, The Octopus Murders.

00:02:31.700 It's all about a software company that was stolen by the Justice Department from a small software company back in the 80s and 90s.

00:02:42.420 And it's a remarkable story, and Netflix does a terrific job with this story.

00:02:49.260 We've been running it, of course, on The Great America Show.

00:02:51.900 We have been also talking to you about it on Rumble, on, of course, X and social media.

00:03:02.300 So let me turn to the issue at hand, and that's our guest today.

00:03:07.460 He's a remarkable fellow.

00:03:08.840 He's Mike Benz, as I said, executive director of the Foundation for Freedom Online.

00:03:13.580 He also just happens to be, in my opinion, the most knowledgeable person about all that is transpiring in the deep state, in our federal government, within the Marxist party itself, the Biden regime, and the efforts over decades to take control of our lives.

00:03:34.300 As Mike Benz puts it, quite simply, the deep state is in charge of our government.

00:03:41.080 We may have a voice, but it's not a voice that can be heard by those in control of this government anymore.

00:03:48.160 And now here is Mike Benz.

00:03:50.000 Mike, I can't tell you how wonderful it is to see you and to have an opportunity to talk with you and get an update on the censorship movement across governments all across the globe.

00:04:03.420 But let's begin with our own, and the CIA, again, surfacing, it seems to have its hands in every aspect of censorship and surveillance in the United States.

00:04:17.140 Your thoughts today?

00:04:19.880 Yeah, well, that's certainly, you know, I see the CIA as being one wing of the greater foreign policy establishment.

00:04:26.260 So oftentimes, many times it looks like the CIA is orchestrating something, but it's downstream of a decision from the State Department or the Pentagon.

00:04:36.340 And, you know, when it comes to the censorship industry, the CIA has a particularly nasty role because the CIA is sort of the one branch of the U.S. government that has always had a license to interfere in media operations.

00:04:49.980 Really, from the day the CIA was born, its first task was control over foreign populations media, and it was barred from doing so in the United States against U.S. citizens.

00:05:00.900 But the CIA would famously go abroad to French newspapers and Italian newspapers and bribe the editorial desks.

00:05:07.840 There was something called Wisner's Wurlitzer, which is named after the CIA godfather Frank Wisner, to create a Wurlitzer, a sort of organ keyboard of 800 different CIA media outlets to be able to create a narrative surround sound.

00:05:21.540 But when Russiagate struck in 2016 in the U.S., the CIA used that predicate of Russian interference on American speech platforms to get its tentacles into American speech.

00:05:35.160 And then even after Russiagate died in mid-2019 with the Mueller investigation probe ending, they simply transitioned a Russia predicate to a democracy predicate because one of the reasons the CIA overthrows foreign countries is in the name of democracy.

00:05:49.880 So if disinformation is a threat to democracy, that essentially gave our intelligence agencies a permanent branch on which to purge themselves for censoring American citizen speech.

00:05:59.200 And just last week, we see, what is it called, Asia, Radio Free Asia, whatever the actual name was.

00:06:09.780 But it's another one of those U.S. propaganda agencies shutting down, still doing business in Hong Kong until last week.

00:06:20.420 It is so pedestrian to me, so provincial, and that it couldn't be possibly helpful to the United States to have that operation underway in Hong Kong or anywhere in Asia.

00:06:35.540 Am I wrong about that?

00:06:37.880 Well, you're right that Radio Free Asia was a CIA proprietary.

00:06:40.760 It was one of the flagship CIA proprietary media organs.

00:06:45.440 Radio Free Europe, Radio Free Asia, and Radio Liberty were all these CIA radio stations at a time when other countries didn't really have robust radio frequency content of their own.

00:06:58.100 And so this was long before the Internet.

00:07:01.680 The Internet being exported around the world was sort of a new radio free Asia, essentially, for the Pentagon and State Department and CIA.

00:07:10.760 You know, the issue right now is it's it's become so politicized, it's become so weaponized.

00:07:16.980 You know, there was an incredible example where Voice of America, which is a fourth CIA proprietary media organ, Voice of America was caught during the Trump term running ads for Joe Biden's candidacy, you know, at the end of some of the broadcast.

00:07:32.820 I mean, this is a CIA radio station that's that's funded essentially by taxpayers and its job is mind control.

00:07:41.380 And they're literally, you know, picking sides on a U.S. election.

00:07:46.020 This is it's an extraordinary scandal.

00:07:48.160 And all of it needs to be have its have its funding contingent on political neutrality.

00:07:54.820 And nothing seems to be contingent.

00:07:56.880 Certainly funding does not seem to be contingent upon oversight, approval of Congress or in any other power, including apparently the presidency.

00:08:06.500 You just brought up the example when President Trump was in office, the idea that there would be pushing ads for Biden.

00:08:15.640 This is a this is a government out of control.

00:08:18.220 This is a deep state that is willful.

00:08:20.960 It is all powerful and that there are no checks and balances that are at least visible to me nor readily apparent, I think, to the American public.

00:08:30.680 I think there is great of all the anxieties this nation is facing right now.

00:08:35.280 I think this has to be chief among them.

00:08:38.260 That is a government that is attacking the American people, censoring us, deleting us and marginalizing us as citizens to the point that we're no better than subjects.

00:08:51.080 Yeah, what we're witnessing right now is the the immune system of the blob.

00:08:56.040 You know, the foreign policy establishment powers that I see as being the sort of top of the food chain of the deep state.

00:09:03.020 You know, it really has a very robust immune system to be able to resist the will of the people expressed democratically.

00:09:11.320 We've seen this throughout other presidencies.

00:09:13.600 We saw this, you know, during the during the JFK time period when his own military generals were essentially at war with him,

00:09:20.540 when his own central intelligence agency was strongly opposed to his Vietnam policy.

00:09:25.240 We've seen this in flare ups in other presidencies.

00:09:29.300 But really, with with Trumpism, because it was so new, because it was so junior and it did not have generations of its own staffers within the blob.

00:09:39.840 It didn't have representation at the Justice Department, National Security and Intelligence Divisions.

00:09:44.660 It didn't have populist representation in the CIA.

00:09:47.760 It didn't have populist representation in the State Department of the Pentagon.

00:09:50.300 It was it was able to be chewed up and spit out by that immune system in ways that are that had very little counter resistance,

00:10:00.940 as if they had tried to do this, for example, to a sort of neoliberal Democrat or a neoconservative, you know, John McCain Republican type.

00:10:10.660 You're talking about proportionality of representation within the deep state and the censorship enterprise.

00:10:17.960 But I wonder if it if it's at this point, it has been for so long, frankly, Marxist Dems, the the far left of the Democratic Party is now in control of both the party,

00:10:32.240 the the the permanent bureaucracy and certainly the foreign policy apparatus, as you as you're talking about.

00:10:40.020 I wonder if it's now more than an immune system, that it is a bubble that is impenetrable.

00:10:47.200 Well, that's that's the issue. And that's why I focus on getting representation within the blob, because, you know, if we're if we're just being if we're just speaking plainly here,

00:10:55.740 it's their country. I mean, they they really they control the they control the courts, they control the tanks and the guns.

00:11:03.400 They control the elections by by, you know, who can who can speak during them.

00:11:08.080 And if you run against them, you end up with 91 felony charges and 700 years in prison and being bankrupted by the judges at their disposal.

00:11:16.940 So, you know, I start the analysis looking at this as a sort of tortoise race because there are no quick and easy that, you know, there is no pebble you can load into the slingshot as a David to just knock out this Goliath with one blow.

00:11:33.400 This is there has to be a march through the institutions on our side the same way as you described, for example, on the Marxist side, there was a march to the institutions over generations.

00:11:42.680 The one thing that I would say is that the complicating factor is that a lot of this is Republican based.

00:11:48.460 I mean, Victoria Nuland, for example, in charge of our Ukraine policy was was a was a Cheney acolyte. 0.76

00:11:53.880 The, you know, Adam Kinzinger, Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger were leading the January 6 purges.

00:12:00.660 You had Joe Biden spent Thanksgiving this year at Martha's Vineyard at the thirty one million dollar home of of billionaire David Rubenstein,

00:12:09.500 who started the Carlisle Group, which is the major Republican, you know, war private equity thing.

00:12:15.940 There is a uniparty at the top, which is what stops a Republican House from being able to defund these things.

00:12:22.700 We're talking with Mike Benz.

00:12:24.460 No one knows more about the cyber, the global cyber structure and and certainly the cyber structure of the the U.S.

00:12:36.860 government and particularly the foreign policy apparatus, all its underpinnings, all of its tentacles that reach around our entire system of government.

00:12:47.180 Checks and balances are no more. The Republic is under under immense threat, imminent threat, in my opinion.

00:12:55.700 We'll be back to talk further with the executive director of the Foundation for Freedom Online.

00:13:00.860 Mike Benz, stay with us.

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00:14:40.420 We're talking with Mike Benz.

00:14:41.620 He is the executive director of the Foundation for Freedom Online.

00:14:45.540 And we urge you to go to his website to follow him on Twitter.

00:14:49.500 And just listen to every word he has to say because it's critical to our understanding of the situation right now in our constitutional republic and this once great society.

00:15:04.840 Mike, we're talking about the FBI suddenly has been rewarded by Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, with a new building.

00:15:11.180 No problem, just because they have people going door to door talking to citizens about their social media posts.

00:15:19.860 No problem, because they are going after parents at school board meetings.

00:15:23.680 This is a further complication in this complex web of what would I call this, an overthrow of traditional American government is the Republican Party has these inert figures who are, if they are not complicit and accomplices, they are indifferent to outcomes politically.

00:15:48.680 Absolutely. Your thoughts about particularly the Speaker of the House and this this weak response to a weaponized FBI, a weaponized federal government.

00:15:57.640 Yeah, the funding of the new FBI building is is so shocking and so shameless and and really something that I think history will remember.

00:16:06.840 I mean, that building will live on for for generations.

00:16:09.440 I understand it's even larger than the Pentagon in terms of, you know, the physical size.

00:16:15.380 I mean, and even just the symbology of having our marquee domestic intelligence, domestic internal spying building being, you know, essentially the largest building in Washington when it's completed is.

00:16:29.200 It's for that to be when Republicans are in control of the House and when Republicans are therefore in control of appropriations and the purse strings of the federal government to green light that project.

00:16:42.220 When the FBI is who ran the hoax of Russiagate, the FBI is the intelligence arm of the Justice Department.

00:16:48.660 Those two entities are inextricably inseparable.

00:16:52.180 The FBI would not exist without a Justice Department.

00:16:54.540 Everything it does has to be Justice Department approved.

00:16:57.840 And this Justice Department is is imprisoning.

00:17:01.740 You know, right now there is a pending death sentence on Donald Trump.

00:17:05.420 Seven hundred years in prison is a death sentence.

00:17:07.960 Ninety one ginned up felony charges.

00:17:10.480 And for for the House Republicans own nominee to be to be devoured by the blob that way.

00:17:19.200 And for them to reward that and say, yes, please, sir, may I have another with with giving them the two hundred million dollars in funding?

00:17:25.900 And they say same way they funded CISA again, even after they knew I had personal conversations with members of the House of Representatives who knew full well what CISA, the DHS censorship agency.

00:17:37.200 That's what CISA is.

00:17:38.280 It's the cyber censorship agency against U.S. citizens of our federal government.

00:17:43.960 And I had members of the House of Representatives tell me, listen, I read all your stuff.

00:17:48.520 CISA is an evil organization.

00:17:51.440 But I'm a junior member in the House.

00:17:53.500 Our hands were tied by House leadership.

00:17:55.500 We had to pass the funding.

00:17:57.700 This is this is essentially a party death sentence that that's being signed up for right now.

00:18:04.060 And the question is, is what's at the root of that?

00:18:07.260 Now, obviously, in the example I just gave, you had vulnerable junior House members afraid of their own party leadership.

00:18:14.260 But who is the House party leadership afraid of?

00:18:17.060 Why is Mike Johnson, who was all, you know, all fire and brimstone about what he was going to do, you know, take on government weaponization when he was running for speaker and made all these grand promises?

00:18:28.820 You know what it was I thought it was very interesting how the CIA targeted Mike Johnson around this Ukraine spending bill when they when they invited the New York Times onto the Ukrainian military bases to put out a front page story about how Mike Johnson needs to pass the spending.

00:18:44.300 And at the same time, they were ginning up a Russiagate case against Mike Johnson.

00:18:48.760 If you if you recall, there was a flim there was a sort of glimmer of a news story around Mike Johnson's ties to Russia at the time that he was contemplating the Ukraine aid bill.

00:18:59.520 He seems to have capitulated and those stories seems to seem to have gone away.

00:19:03.160 I would like to know what sort of conversations are being had in order to try to destabilize Mike Johnson, if that is what's at the root of this, because it's hard for me to imagine without that pressure that that that House party leadership would be so craven in their cowardice.

00:19:19.380 And I think what you're saying right now, Mike, is something it's worth, if I may, underlining here for just a bit when we talk about what is happening to Mike Johnson, when we talk about the former, excuse me, the former head of the CCP committee, the select committee on the CCP, Mike Gallagher, who is leaving Congress and not in a and not in a positive or, you know, in any way amicable relationship.

00:19:49.380 With his own party or anyone else. This man has to have been blackmailed till he was blind.

00:19:57.140 He has turned into a figure who that is unrecognizable from the former Mike Gallagher just a couple of years ago.

00:20:05.180 And when we see these unrecognizable and unclear outcomes and decisions taken by some of these lawmakers, Gallagher is a non-entity and point of fact because he has done nothing.

00:20:18.780 But doing nothing has been devastating to the United States because that committee could have been very, very important for our our future and policy that's taken by our House.

00:20:30.540 But then we look also over at the Supreme Court. There's a reason that John Roberts chooses to go with the left.

00:20:37.040 This is not a natural or rational and our obvious, obviously motivated decision that he takes.

00:20:45.140 The same thing happens with, in point of fact, Amy Coney Barrett.

00:20:54.280 Is she doing the same thing? Inexplicable, except for one thing.

00:20:59.500 We know that they are under great, great personal pressure from those quarters, the same quarters you're talking about, the CIA, NSA, whatever the agency may be.

00:21:07.980 By the way, it started out as being supposedly an agency to assure the security of our voting systems in this country.

00:21:23.840 It has become anything but. It is crushing democracy every day, as you point out.

00:21:31.360 But anyway, I just wanted to say everyone watching, watching us and listening to you today, Mike, really needs to remember there is something happening under the table with each one of these people in the shadows.

00:21:42.680 And none of it is pretty. And we've watched, for example, Justice Kavanaugh, his life and his family's threatened, not by accident, but by by Democratic Marxist activists who show up at their homes.

00:21:57.600 These are not accidents. And this is a country that should be sick to its stomach at what we've become.

00:22:02.560 I want to just turn to one other thing that you mentioned, and that is there's a and I apologize because we didn't talk about this before we started this conversation, my fault.

00:22:16.160 But there's a great series on Netflix right now, a documentary called The Octopus Murders.

00:22:22.440 It's about a software company called Inslaw. I have a personal knowledge of this of the story because some of my reporters years ago were working on it.

00:22:33.620 But this is a I just want to recommend it to everyone and get your thoughts if you've seen it or thought about it.

00:22:40.280 Lou, this is so funny. I for the past several weeks on X, I have been doing a annotated movie watch of the octopus murders for all of my subscribers.

00:22:51.140 You know, I have this like five dollar a month thing where I just do live streams of my research.

00:22:56.420 That's amazing. So we've been doing these live annotations of the octopus murders watch through.

00:23:01.620 Our next one is is tomorrow night at at 8 p.m.

00:23:05.540 And essentially, you know, this is one of the reasons that I, too, sort of share your fascination, although you've been involved in this much, much longer than I have.

00:23:16.160 But I find that the historical data points around Iran-Contra, the scandal of the early Reagan era with the rogue Central Intelligence Agency going around Congress.

00:23:27.220 There was a congressional ban on the ability to to fund the overthrow of the Nicaraguan government.

00:23:33.120 And this was basically a blown clandestine operation that had that had a huge hearing in in Congress.

00:23:42.180 There was there were subpoenas and investigations for years, really for decades after.

00:23:46.840 And it spills into all these touch points around, you know, around the the blob, around the deep state, around the sort of deep structural and political organization of how to topple the government using this structure of a combination of the State Department, CIA, Pentagon,

00:24:07.300 outside, outside business investors, cartels, criminal underworld links.

00:24:12.360 I mean, and and then also it's the tech story, because the promise software was really about bringing, you know, bringing the Justice Department's career criminal database into a digitized form around in 1990 as the as the Internet was was coming online.

00:24:29.940 And the problem was, is, you know, that threatened to turn up all these links between career criminals.

00:24:35.700 And we have a problem, which is that our CIA has a license to do dirty tricks.

00:24:39.880 They work with the criminal underworld all over the world.

00:24:43.720 And so, you know, turning up Justice Department and CIA protected criminal cartels would have a problem, would basically undermine U.S. clandestine operation activity.

00:24:55.840 You know, one thing I do want to mention, by the way, on the Mike Gallagher point is, you know, Mike Gallagher himself, as you mentioned, you know, just did this sort of Brutus stabbing of of the House Republican Party.

00:25:06.440 I think when he leaves, it'll just be one, you know, a one or two person majority, which means if one more person leaves, there goes Republican control over the House, even after winning the midterms.

00:25:18.260 And Mike Gallagher himself is military intelligence. He came from he came from Marine, the U.S. Marine intelligence squad there.

00:25:26.960 So he surely has maintained those those network connections to the intelligence world.

00:25:32.640 I mean, as you mentioned, you know, he was on the the select committee on on the CCP.

00:25:37.840 Did did someone have a conversation with Mike Gallagher?

00:25:40.840 And again, this is speculation. But did someone offer Mike Gallagher something for, you know, for this?

00:25:46.440 I mean, because the way that he did it was was not the typical way of quitting.

00:25:51.200 He did not. He did not. If he he announced that he would be quitting after the day in which he could be replaced.

00:25:58.440 You know, if he had just resigned immediately, there could have been an immediate, you know, appointment by Mike Johnson for a new Republican to take his place.

00:26:06.900 But he basically announced that it would be effective after the after that point, almost intentionally sabotaging the Republican Party.

00:26:15.820 And I wonder if part of that is because of this, you know, CIA Republican alliance with the mainstream Democrat Party to purge the Republican Party of Trumpism and then step back into supporting the Republican Party.

00:26:32.240 He wants a Nikki Haley type, wants a more blob friendly GOP politician is has a chance of winning.

00:26:38.840 If if Mike Gallagher, in my opinion, finds his way back into the intelligence community in whatever agency, in whatever capacity, if he finds his way back to the MITRE to a number of other organizations, large corporations,

00:26:56.600 all that operate at the behest of the intelligence and military industrial complex, the next president should have investigations unleashed against him till time immemorial.

00:27:11.320 It is it is rancid what he has done. 0.97

00:27:14.920 He is the worst sort of human being, in my opinion. 0.99

00:27:19.360 And I have to tell you, I he is despicable in every sense of the word. 0.99

00:27:23.920 I just find him in because he was charged with such an immense and important existential responsibility to lead that committee.

00:27:33.660 And he becomes what he is today.

00:27:37.080 However, one wants to describe him.

00:27:39.260 Well, it's amazing.

00:27:40.220 Oh, sorry.

00:27:40.940 It's amazing you mentioned MITRE because, you know, MITRE is obviously one of the largest defense contractors on the on the payroll of the Pentagon.

00:27:47.720 And MITRE is the perfect example of all this.

00:27:50.100 The Blob's foreign facing Department of Dirty Tricks turned inward because MITRE was at the helm of U.S. censorship, of U.S. opinions. 0.93

00:27:58.920 MITRE developed an A.I. censorship technology that they called Squint, you know, to be able to peer through social media posts.

00:28:06.000 And they applied that to be able to scan and ban millions of pro-Trump tweets.

00:28:10.660 They explicitly said election disinformation, anything that delegitimizes the use of mail-in ballots that were overwhelmingly for, you know, for Joe Biden.

00:28:20.200 They did the same thing with COVID dissident, vaccine hesitancy stuff and and opposition to mandates and lockdowns.

00:28:28.660 So MITRE developed the military grade A.I. censorship technology on which Internet censorship ran from the 2020 election through the COVID-19 pandemic years later and are still highly active in that space.

00:28:44.360 So it's yet another example.

00:28:45.440 This would be like Raytheon dropping bombs on Ohio or something.

00:28:48.800 MITRE is essentially doing the censorship weaponry against U.S. citizens.

00:28:53.860 Unfortunately, too many corporations doing precisely the same thing and also part of the complex that is overwhelming this country right now.

00:29:04.820 We're talking with Mike Benz, executive director of the Foundation for Freedom Online.

00:29:10.300 We urge you to check out his Web site.

00:29:12.120 We urge you to follow him on Twitter and we urge you to stay with us as we come right back with Mike Benz.

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00:29:55.980 We're back with Mike Benz, executive director of Freedom, excuse me, the Foundation for Freedom Online.

00:30:03.020 A great American.

00:30:03.920 And I want to let us turn to to Inslaw, because you mentioned that you're running your your presentation on a movie night on Mike Benz on Twitter.

00:30:15.780 And you've been doing this for what, over a week?

00:30:18.980 Yeah.

00:30:19.140 Well, we've done the first two episodes.

00:30:21.120 You know, they're about an hour each.

00:30:22.500 And so we've done three hour live streams, you know, with two hours of essentially annotation over top of of it.

00:30:28.500 Well, I'm I was away for a while trying to get over some post-COVID issues.

00:30:35.280 So I miss that.

00:30:36.640 But I will catch up.

00:30:37.880 I promise you.

00:30:38.800 And I love the series that Netflix has produced here.

00:30:42.500 It's called The American Conspiracy is the overall title.

00:30:46.300 The subtitle is The Octopus Mergers about Inslaw, a software company who created a software product for the Justice Department that would to accordion everything digitally across the Justice Department.

00:31:00.400 So every every U.S. attorney, 92, 93 of them across the country would be looking at the same data, would have access to whatever they needed and could follow career criminals and any kind of criminal enterprise other than, of course, a government enterprise.

00:31:18.680 And that that software stolen by the Justice Department.

00:31:21.980 And there was a there's a person who plays a particular role in that, Mike, that I think everyone should listen to us or pay great attention to.

00:31:29.780 His name is Bill Barr.

00:31:31.520 Now, Bill Barr is that's the very same attorney general who was such a disappointment to, of course, President Trump, who chose silence rather than speaking up when he knew that Joe Biden was lying and changing the course of history.

00:31:47.100 And that final debate in 2020 and said it was Russian disinformation that that that laptop that was his son's.

00:31:55.480 He denied it.

00:31:56.860 He was permitted to lie, even though that laptop had been in the possession of the FBI for almost a year.

00:32:02.860 And Bill Barr very well knew that he was lying, but chose not to, quote unquote, intervene.

00:32:09.080 His his non-intervention, of course, changed history.

00:32:12.520 So that's not much of an excuse in a terrible thought.

00:32:15.540 But he's also the same fellow who said it was OK to murder Jeffrey Epstein in Bureau of Prisons facility.

00:32:23.240 And it's OK that the guards took a walk and one of them apparently fell asleep in their friend.

00:32:29.020 And on top of that, the suicide watch individuals who should have been looking at it took a holiday.

00:32:34.340 And by the way, we should all cameras malfunctioned.

00:32:36.920 The cameras malfunctioned.

00:32:38.260 All of them at the same time.

00:32:40.760 Extraordinary series of coincidences.

00:32:42.760 And yes, Bill Barr was fundamental to that.

00:32:46.080 What people may not know is that Bill Barr plays a big role in ends law, too, because he ultimately became the man.

00:32:53.280 And by the way, we should point out something else about Bill Barr, which you very well know.

00:32:57.820 He was in the CIA for seven years before he was a Bushie working for H.W. Bush. 0.68

00:33:04.120 And he has an amazing, amazing career of coincidences, happenstances and absolutely incredible opportunities to change the direction of whatever the event was, whether it was a presidency,

00:33:22.400 whether it was a prisoner sitting in a bureau prison cell for which he was responsible and he found nothing wrong.

00:33:31.020 That's exactly what he did with ends law.

00:33:32.720 Right. Yeah.

00:33:33.980 Well, Jeffrey Epstein, I mean, just to start there and then we'll get to the ends law.

00:33:38.600 Jeffrey Epstein went to school under the tutelage of Bill Barr's father.

00:33:45.140 Donald, Donald, there was Donald Barr.

00:33:47.900 There was the there was this sort of posh New York private school.

00:33:52.680 Yes, exactly.

00:33:54.660 Exactly.

00:33:55.140 And, you know, the links between Jeffrey Epstein and the CIA intelligence world are very fascinating.

00:34:01.020 I think famously, Alex Acosta, the the prosecutor of Jeffrey Epstein in the in the late 1990s with the first case was asked when he was being nominated to be labor secretary under Trump.

00:34:15.820 He was asked why he didn't go after Jeffrey Epstein harder.

00:34:18.840 Why did they give him such a sweetheart deal?

00:34:21.340 And he was told to be, you know, this is a direct quote to back off of Jeffrey Epstein because he, quote, belong to intelligence.

00:34:27.900 Well, I mean, that he's he's saying point blank, the prosecutor was said that that the CIA told the prosecutors to back off of their guy.

00:34:40.020 And that really gets to. And so, you know, between that and the fact that it was Bill Barr who essentially blessed, you know, the the Epstein did not kill himself situation, you know, given all that is is is is a damning indictment.

00:34:55.440 But it really gets to the soul of the relationship between the DOJ and the CIA, which is which is where ins law.

00:35:01.940 The ins law story is so fascinating because, you know, we have this overworld underworld alliance.

00:35:08.020 You know, if the CIA wants to overthrow a foreign country's government, they don't you can only plan so much of that from Langley.

00:35:16.720 You know, you can say, OK, we're going to topple this this government.

00:35:19.640 But this government has guards. They've got an economy. They have all this infrastructure.

00:35:24.060 You can't just march in there. You can't just write it down on paper and say, OK, we said we're going to overthrow that country's government.

00:35:31.700 The country's government is overthrown. You need someone to do the dirty work.

00:35:35.260 And this is where criminal mafias and in the in organized crime come into the picture in terms of their connection with the Central Intelligence Agency.

00:35:44.600 In basically every region, we work with the groups who are prosecuted by their prosecutors in order to run paramilitary operations.

00:35:53.080 This is the story of Nicaragua and Iran Contra, which is which is, you know, a lot of what the ins law affair grew out of was the was the Nicaraguan underworld.

00:36:02.740 And in the octopus murders, it goes through how these Latin American criminal cartels and drug cartels were onboarded by the Pentagon, essentially run out of an Indian reservation base in in eastern California in order to create a sort of money laundering sanctuary.

00:36:21.440 Because reservations are are essentially sovereign.

00:36:25.440 And so in the 1980s and 1990s, it was it was they could basically create a little Vatican bank.

00:36:30.700 It was a Vatican bank. But we also should point out it was also a weapons depository, armory and distribution center for all sorts of weapons, including heavy weapons that were going to various.

00:36:42.640 You know, units throughout the Central America and we run that operation, the Central Intelligence Agency runs that operation in essentially every major region in the world.

00:36:56.540 We do that in Latin America. We do that in in in Central in South America.

00:37:01.660 We do that in Sub-Saharan Africa. We do that in Central Central Asia.

00:37:05.460 I mean, this was the story of Afghanistan, essentially, you know, from the Mujahideen and Zbigniew Brzezinski in the 1970s when we were doing that that same operation.

00:37:15.140 And a lot of this involves illegal narcotics, involves, you know, being able to traffic those to convert that to cash, to guns, the ability to run guns through these criminal underworld networks.

00:37:25.680 And then you have these protected everyone who's a casualty of this proxy war, who's a U.S. civilian says, oh, we have this drug problem.

00:37:33.080 Why aren't they going after the cartels? Oh, we have these these this criminal underworld element in our town who effectively runs things.

00:37:39.420 Why isn't the Justice Department going after it? And what you have essentially is the story of the CIA leaning on the Justice Department and seating it with their own people in order to protect those criminal underworld elements who are useful to their own geopolitical machinations.

00:37:54.300 And this is really where the Bill Barr story comes into it, because not only was Bill Barr at the CIA, as you mentioned, you know, for seven years, he his specific role was to obstruct the ability for Congress to get information on Iran-Contra.

00:38:10.040 He was the blocking. He was the block and tackle guy, the mop up man for the CIA's misdeeds when they were under congressional scrutiny.

00:38:16.920 So he is a professional obstruction of justice architect for the Central Intelligence Agency.

00:38:23.680 So it really comes as little surprise at that point that he would play that same role in the Jeffrey Epstein scandal decades later.

00:38:33.280 Decades later. And just to put a point on it earlier, talking about the Dalton School, Bill Barr's father was the headmaster of the Dalton School.

00:38:42.720 He not only had a relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, he hired Jeffrey Epstein to teach, even though he was unqualified, according to Dalton standards, to do so and to see that relationship expand and then reshape itself over the decades that follow is truly remarkable.

00:39:01.720 And it's another reason, folks, you're going to find you're going to find that Mike Benz's movie night, if you will, on on these Netflix productions, the American conspiracy, the octopus murders.

00:39:16.600 You're going to find them fascinating. So please go to Twitter to and watch that.

00:39:20.960 Go to Netflix and watch that. Also, the documentaries themselves.

00:39:24.100 You have the wonderful benefit of the annotations by, of course, Mike Benz, as you watch those movies on his on his postings on Twitter.

00:39:35.880 Mike, as always, fascinating conversation with you, my friend.

00:39:40.000 And thank you. Thanks for your leadership on all these issues.

00:39:43.080 Well, God bless you. And thank you for yours.

00:39:46.040 Have a great one. And we'll talk soon. Thanks so much.

00:39:48.860 And a reminder, the the the program is amazing.

00:39:53.720 The documentary series on Netflix, the Netflix doc is called American Conspiracy, The Octopus Murders.

00:40:03.140 And as Mike and I have just been talking about, urge you to to watch his offerings on on X.

00:40:10.500 They're very, very much worthwhile.

00:40:12.680 The same material with his annotations. Very informative.

00:40:17.100 And we recommend again to you go to Mike Benz, Cyber on X.

00:40:23.660 As I continue to have to remind myself, X is Twitter.

00:40:27.120 Twitter is X.

00:40:28.460 So we recommend him to you always.

00:40:32.280 Again, his handle is Mike Benz, Cyber on X.

00:40:37.100 Thanks for being with us.

00:40:38.220 God bless you. And we'll see you next right here on The Great America Show.

The Great America Show - April 02, 2024

BENZ： BARR HAS ALWAYS BEEN CIA’S CLOSER

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