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00:01:14.940 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to The Great America Show. Happy New Year. Great to have

00:01:23.120 you with us. Just last week, we found out that Chinese dictator Xi Jinping told Joe Biden

00:01:29.000 at their ultra-secret private San Francisco summit that we'll eventually be watching China take over

00:01:36.460 Taiwan. I'm sure Biden then bowed and nodded his head to the news from his master. And just after that

00:01:43.220 meeting, China accused the U.S. of violating their sovereignty because our Navy ships were in the

00:01:48.780 South China Sea. To take up all of this and much more, we turn now to geopolitical expert and author

00:01:55.380 Gordon Chang. Gordon, great to have you with us. Happy New Year. Let's start in Asia with the bellicose 0.92

00:02:01.680 remarks coming out of Beijing, talking about U.S. ships, U.S. Navy ships, violating Chinese

00:02:07.880 sovereignty. Your thoughts? Yes, this comes right after the November 15th summit that Xi Jinping had

00:02:14.620 with President Biden, where supposedly, according to Biden, things were going very well with China.

00:02:21.920 What Beijing is referring to is the Gabriel Giffords, which is a U.S. Navy littoral combat ship,

00:02:29.440 which sailed close to Second Thomas Shoal in the South China Sea. Second Thomas is part of the

00:02:35.820 Philippines, clearly within the Philippines exclusive economic zone, but China claims it. And around

00:02:42.680 Second Thomas, over the last, let's say, two or three months, there have been extraordinary Chinese 1.00

00:02:49.420 activity. And this has been dangerous. The United States has tried to warn China. It has slowly ramped up 0.98

00:02:59.180 our military presence there. But obviously, our tactics are not working because China is moving very

00:03:05.560 fast to take over Second Thomas and related shoals and reefs. And at this point, no administration has

00:03:15.440 tried to stop them, certainly blocking their development of those islands and others in

00:03:23.200 disputed territories in the South China Sea. Give us your sense of what this means. Have they selected

00:03:31.720 a new strategy? Are they accelerating an old one? What is happening in the mines and in the halls of

00:03:41.660 the capital of Beijing?

00:03:44.020 Well, China has territorial claims on the South China Sea. They go back to 1947, which is when

00:03:52.240 Chiang Kai-shek was ruling China. But clearly, Beijing has started to change tactics recently.

00:03:58.880 So, for instance, they have switched away from Taiwan with these circumnavigation by ships and planes,

00:04:07.360 and they've moved hard against Manila. And we have seen this at Scarborough Shoal,

00:04:14.180 Second Thomas Shoal, and now Whitsun Reef. Basically, what's going on, and this is ominous,

00:04:19.820 we don't have a legal obligation to defend Taiwan. But we do have a legal obligation to defend the

00:04:27.240 Philippines, a 1951 mutual defense treaty. So what Beijing is basically doing is saying that they do

00:04:34.260 not respect the United States. They don't respect Joe Biden. And so, therefore, they're going to

00:04:39.380 pressure the Philippines. 0.79

00:04:41.900 And interestingly, is there really any real commitment on the part of this administration?

00:04:49.780 This is an administration that doesn't honor the Constitution, doesn't follow law, is unlawful in

00:04:57.440 most of it, seriously, in most of its activities and its initiatives. Would it be a surprise to anyone

00:05:03.800 if Joe Biden decided not to honor a treaty of military support, requiring military support from

00:05:11.380 the United States for the Philippines?

00:05:12.780 At this point, you know, nothing's a surprise because the world is in turmoil and the United

00:05:18.200 States has got to choose where we're going to defend. What's happened, Lou, if I can just back up a

00:05:25.280 little bit to give some context. China was ramming Philippine vessels at Second Thomas Shoal

00:05:33.260 in early October. President Biden actually gave an oral warning when the Australian Prime Minister

00:05:42.280 visited the White House. And Biden said that the United States was prepared to use force to

00:05:47.200 discharge our obligations to the Philippines under that mutual defense treaty. Well, the Chinese just 0.99

00:05:53.060 ignored him because they then continued their course of provocative activities. They then started

00:05:59.420 to use water cannon on Philippine boats. And now we see China swarming Whitsun Reef, which is not far

00:06:07.660 by, also in the southern portion of the South China Sea. So clearly, Beijing is ignoring American warnings,

00:06:14.460 which means deterrence has broken down. You know, we don't know what Biden's response will be.

00:06:20.460 We have seen the U.S. Navy start to show the flag at Second Thomas. They did that with overflights

00:06:28.640 of U.S. vessels during provocative Chinese activities. Now we've got that littoral combat ship that sailed

00:06:37.100 close by. But we don't know what Biden would do. And the Chinese, I think, obviously feel that he's not going

00:06:44.180 to do anything. So regardless of what we're going to do, the important thing is what the Chinese think we're 0.58

00:06:50.460 not going to do. And that really is driving events.

00:06:54.460 And the number of disputed islands and claims, whether it's Vietnam, whether it's the Philippines,

00:07:01.580 there are lots of disputed islands in the sea. And China is simply disregarding all of it and moving

00:07:14.780 straight ahead. There are no court proceedings that I'm aware of, international court proceedings.

00:07:19.580 There is no effort to negotiate. This is bullheaded straight ahead. Take what you will.

00:07:29.420 Yes. And, you know, this goes back to early 2012. And the reason I mentioned this is because Biden was

00:07:37.020 vice president in the Obama administration, and he was considered to be the foreign policy advisor to the

00:07:43.500 president. Well, in 2012, at Scarborough Shoal, also part of the Philippines, very close to the main

00:07:52.380 Philippine island in Luzon and very far away from China, the Obama administration actually brokered a

00:07:58.940 deal between Manila and Beijing for the Chinese to withdraw their craft from Scarborough Shoal. Now, 0.85

00:08:07.500 this was a U.S. deal. The Chinese dishonored it. They kept their vessels there. The Philippines actually

00:08:15.180 honored it. And that left China in possession of Scarborough. And the Obama administration refused to enforce that deal.

00:08:22.780 And so I think China learned from that, that they could do what they want. And the reason why that's 0.54

00:08:28.540 relevant today is because shortly after seizing Scarborough, they then started to fortify those

00:08:34.540 islands in the in the Spratly chain, which is where Second Thomas is. They then ramped up pressure on Second

00:08:41.020 Thomas Shoal, which is where there are problems today. And they started to go after the Japanese in the East 0.97

00:08:47.500 China Sea at the Senkakus, which the Chinese claim as the Dao use. So China just went out and made the problem

00:08:54.220 bigger. They got away with it in 2012. They obviously think they can get away with it in 2023.

00:09:01.180 Obviously. And let's continue this on the other side of these quick words, folks. We'll be right back. We're talking

00:09:08.160 with Gordon Chang about both Asia and we're also going to bring up the little matter of what is happening in

00:09:17.580 in Tokyo, in the Philippines and throughout the Indo-Pacific. And then we'll leap over to the

00:09:25.100 Hamas war against Israel. We'll be right back. 0.85

00:09:35.580 We're back with Gordon Chang and we want to talk about now, Gordon, if we may, let's turn to what I

00:09:41.900 think is a remarkable statement by the secretary of defense, Lloyd Austin, in which publicly he

00:09:48.780 admonished the Israelis for their their war strategy and basically said that they had made

00:09:59.020 mistakes. And I have never seen a secretary of defense treat an ally the way he did.

00:10:05.180 Absolutely. And really what we're talking about here is a war which is existential for Israel.

00:10:13.340 Israel is a friend. It's a democracy. It was attacked on October 7th.

00:10:17.420 Iran has continued those attacks through Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthi militia. And this is a 0.70

00:10:25.100 fight that we have to win. And I think it should be Israel that determines what they're going to do, 1.00

00:10:32.140 because it's their country. The United States should support it. Unfortunately, we have a lot of pro

00:10:38.140 Iran elements in the State Department and in the National Security Council. So we have an

00:10:43.580 administration that from the very beginning, Lou, was off key, because if you remember right after

00:10:50.380 the attacks on the 7th of October, the reaction of the State Department was called for a ceasefire,

00:10:58.540 which was absolutely wrong. You know, everybody wants peace. But the problem was that Israel was just 0.98

00:11:03.980 attacked, brutally attacked. And Israel has got to eliminate Hamas if it's going to have peace.

00:11:12.540 And so they were just the wrong instincts throughout this administration, whether we're

00:11:17.020 talking Defense Department, State Department, NSC or Oval Office.

00:11:22.380 This administration, this regime, if you will, is befuddling in its ineptitude and its policies.

00:11:31.180 To think that Lloyd Austin would say what he did, I just he would never have said that about

00:11:39.180 the Zelensky government. There's never been a statement, an analog of any kind to what he said.

00:11:46.060 What is what makes Israel different that they would condescend to our greatest ally in the Middle East

00:11:54.540 in that fashion? I hate to say it, but the answer to your question is anti-Semitism.

00:12:00.780 There is a large block of the Democratic Party coalition that is anti-Semitic. And this has been

00:12:09.660 clear as we see the reactions of the administration to the attacks on Israel. That's the only explanation

00:12:17.500 that I can come up with, because what Lloyd Austin said and what other administration officials said

00:12:25.340 clearly could only have been motivated by a pro-Iranian government.

00:12:29.900 I think you're exactly right. And Iran is just not mentioned in the calculus that is

00:12:38.060 the Israel Hamas war right now. We know that they are driving the Hamas terrorist organization.

00:12:46.300 They are financing it. They are moving the strategy daily as well as the tactics.

00:12:53.500 Why is Iran not even mentioned by this administration? Because if strategically,

00:13:00.860 Lloyd Austin likes to speak strategically, big thinkers, big words, strategically, one has to,

00:13:07.820 I think, include these the nation state for whom all of this is but proxy. Iran needs to be confronted 1.00

00:13:17.980 and be dealt with on this issue. It seems to me there is no escaping that.

00:13:22.700 You're absolutely right about that. And if we're going to think strategically and even with more context,

00:13:28.620 we'd have to include China in that as well, because China has been supporting Iran

00:13:34.060 diplomatically from a propaganda point of view and also from an economic financial lifeline point of view,

00:13:41.580 which means that Iran could not support its proxies, the three terrorist groups,

00:13:47.260 without the support from Beijing. Just to give you an example of this, in the first nine months of this year,

00:13:54.780 China's purchases of Iran's oil was 60 percent above that in the comparable period in 2017.

00:14:01.340 2017 is relevant because that is the last year before the Trump administration reimposed sanctions

00:14:09.180 on Iranian oil, which means that China right now is violating sanctions. The Biden administration is

00:14:15.500 not doing anything about it. Matter of fact, U.S. diplomats have been told not to mention Iran,

00:14:21.180 because our Gulf Arab friends are just perplexed by this. But U.S. diplomats have been warned off of

00:14:32.700 talking about this broader issue, which you're highlighting right now, which is Iran fueling the 0.96

00:14:37.740 attacks. Mentioning Iran's interest in the Middle East, are we seeing a new level of expansionary ambitions in 0.76

00:14:50.620 the Middle East on the part of China? Absolutely. We have seen, for instance,

00:14:59.020 well, if I may go back, President Trump had the most successful Middle East policy of any American

00:15:06.700 president after FDR, who stitched together the deal with Saudi Arabia and created this friendship.

00:15:14.380 The Abraham Accords are historic. They would have won an American president, a Nobel Prize if his

00:15:21.580 last name weren't Trump. And what Biden has done is taken down, basically undermined the Abraham Accords

00:15:29.740 and supported Iran. China has seen this as an opportunity. They put together that temporary deal

00:15:38.380 between Saudi Arabia and Iran. And they are now courting the Gulf Arab states, the other states of

00:15:45.100 the Gulf Cooperation Council. So, yes, China believes it can take over the region to the exclusion of the

00:15:50.860 United States. That's clear from what they're doing. And also, they're starting to elbow their friends,

00:15:56.620 Russia, out of the region as well.

00:15:58.780 It is remarkable what this administration, this regime is doing and where it leads. I don't think

00:16:08.860 we can contemplate without thinking about serious, serious setbacks for the United States, not just in

00:16:14.620 policy, but in terms of world standing. We're talking with Gordon Chang. We're coming right back.

00:16:21.340 Please stay with us here on The Great America Show.

00:16:29.500 We're back now with Gordon Chang. And Gordon, we were talking about President Biden, his policies,

00:16:35.260 and his standing now where he has bollocked up Asia, the Middle East, Ukraine. We're running out of

00:16:44.140 territory for him to to foul your thoughts on his standing now globally. Well, there's been a collapse

00:16:52.620 in America standing globally. President Trump left a world in peace. Biden inherited that when he took

00:17:00.700 office. And since then, we have seen catastrophes. There was the catastrophic withdrawal from Afghanistan 1.00

00:17:07.260 in August of 2021. That, I believe, convinced Putin that he could invade Ukraine. We have heard from

00:17:16.380 the Arab leaders privately that the Biden administration's failure to deal with an Iranian attack

00:17:23.100 on Bahrain forces about three weeks before the October 7th attack convinced Iran that now is the time to

00:17:30.620 move because they saw the Biden administration not only failed to act when an Iranian proxy attacked Bahrain

00:17:39.260 forces, but they also failed to say anything at all. So that's, you know, the October 7th war

00:17:47.580 could have been avoided. And then another catastrophe is North Africa, where China and Russia are fueling 1.00

00:17:53.340 insurgencies across North Africa that looked like wars. So we have a world that is falling apart and it

00:18:03.340 fell apart on Biden's watch due to Biden's policies. We're watching a 2000 mile long border that's been

00:18:10.460 handed over to the Mexican drug cartels, which means it's also being turned over to China, who are their 0.99

00:18:18.140 strategic partners, both the government of Mexico and the cartels. They're strategic partners. And

00:18:24.300 Venezuela now rearing its ambitions and being very threatening to Guyana. Give us your thinking on why

00:18:36.060 there's no seemingly Biden policy for the Western Hemisphere.

00:18:40.860 Yeah, this is where it hits home, Lou. On the first point you raised, which was our open Southern

00:18:47.660 border, we're seeing coming across that border some very suspicious individuals. There are,

00:18:55.740 for instance, packs of Chinese males in groups of 5 to 15 of military age, traveling without family

00:19:02.940 members, pretending not to speak English. US Border Patrol knows that some of these Chinese individuals

00:19:09.740 have links to the Chinese military. And the question is, why are they coming here? And I'm worried that

00:19:15.660 they are saboteurs. Remember that lab in Reedley, California, that secret Chinese biological weapons 1.00

00:19:22.300 facility had at least 20 pathogens, according to the official count, and had almost 1000 mice that

00:19:28.940 had been genetically engineered to spread disease. I can't believe that that's the only such facility in

00:19:35.340 the US. And I think that the males that are coming across our border are going to link up with those

00:19:40.780 facilities. We also know there are Syrians and Venezuelans coming across, who appear to have

00:19:49.740 very, very dangerous ties. So this is an open season on the United States. And just one more other thing

00:19:57.260 about terrorists. As a part of that September 11th deal that Biden had with Iran, where we released

00:20:05.020 hostages and unfroze $6 billion. As a part of that, Biden issued clemency to Iranian operatives, who were

00:20:15.660 not sent back to Iran, they were actually released into the United States. And this is important because

00:20:22.780 there are actually low level Trump officials who still have Secret Service protection, because there is

00:20:28.700 a threat that Iran might assassinate them. So this is just, there are no words to describe what's going

00:20:35.980 on. With regard to Guyana and Venezuela, on Sunday, Venezuela held a referendum. About 95% of the people

00:20:44.620 in Venezuela said that the government should annex two thirds of Guyana, their neighbor to the east.

00:20:51.500 That's an oil rich, mineral rich area. The answer, the reason why this is important is not only because it's the

00:20:58.460 western hemisphere, but it's also, I believe, another symptom of the collapse of Biden policy.

00:21:04.140 Because Venezuela would not threaten to militarily invade a neighbor if it thought it could, you know,

00:21:12.300 they wouldn't do this unless they thought they could get away with it. They couldn't get away with

00:21:16.220 this under President Trump. But they're thinking that right now, American policy is in collapse.

00:21:22.460 I hope Venezuela is just posturing. One can make an argument that this is just huff and puff.

00:21:28.380 But the point is, they are threatening to invade their neighbor.

00:21:34.060 And for what purpose? There just seems to be no strategic, logical, rational reason for them to

00:21:43.340 be threatening in this way.

00:21:46.620 Because they can, I suppose. I mean, there's been a territorial dispute between Guyana and Venezuela

00:21:53.740 that goes back more than a hundred years, I think. And the question is, why is it becoming

00:22:02.780 such an issue now? I think the answer is because they see American policy is in collapse.

00:22:08.780 They don't believe the United States can maintain peace and stability around the world,

00:22:13.420 like we did up until Biden became president. And the world is now falling apart. You know,

00:22:20.940 we've got wars and potential wars all over the place right now. And this reminds me of what

00:22:27.500 happened in the 1930s, where we had separate wars that eventually merged into what we now know is

00:22:34.940 the Second World War. Well, we've got the same situation right now. And I'm just concerned that

00:22:43.340 these conflicts are going to merge into a much bigger global fight. So this is the Biden administration

00:22:50.780 is not prepared. And Lloyd Austin is certainly not prepared to deal with this because he's much more

00:22:56.140 worried about diversity and stuff like that. And one can say that, you know, issues of diversity are

00:23:01.900 important. I don't. I think right now we have to emphasize unity because we have common enemies and

00:23:09.340 those enemies mean us great harm. They mean to take away our country. And so we need to be united as a

00:23:15.660 people to confront this. Well, Gordon, thank you for saying that. And I wholly support you in those

00:23:22.380 sentiments and agree with you 100%. And as always, it's been an instructive discussion. We thank you

00:23:28.380 so much for bringing your insight, your knowledge and your wisdom to to what is a lamentable American 0.73

00:23:36.780 foreign policy at this this moment in history. Thanks, Gordon Chang. God bless you. Thanks,

00:23:42.060 Lou. And God bless you. Our guest here tomorrow on The Great America Show is the great Steve Bannon.

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Best Of Lou Dobbs： BIDEN HATES AMERICA — BOWS TO CHINA

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