The Great America Show - Best Of Lou Dobbs： McCULLOUGH SAYS CHINA’S “MYSTERY FLU” IS NO MYSTERY

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00:01:14.940 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show. Great to have you with us.

00:01:23.280 There are a lot of Americans wondering this holiday season about what's going on with the China virus.

00:01:28.720 Is it still here? Is it coming? How worried should we be? Do you need to get vaccinated? What are the

00:01:34.240 symptoms and should you even be worried at all? There are very few doctors we rely on these days to

00:01:40.160 give us the truth. Here on The Great America Show, we turn to one of the best and that is Dr. Peter

00:01:45.360 McCullough. Dr. McCullough, great to have you back with us. Suddenly, we've got a lot of talk,

00:01:50.080 particularly among the public health agencies, about China and what appears to be an epidemic there,

00:01:55.820 but it's denied once again by Chinese public health authorities. We have no real comments of any

00:02:01.840 substantive kind coming from either the White House or CDC or any of the public health agencies.

00:02:07.580 If you will, doctor, tell us what in the world is going on here.

00:02:12.260 You're right. The U.S. public health agencies have been silent. They haven't

00:02:15.700 informed us at all. The WHO says that it's inquiring of the Chinese. Now, I was fortunate to get 1.00

00:02:23.240 firsthand report from Dr. Michelle Schechter in Brazil who received a patient back from China

00:02:28.860 who had this Chinese pneumonia. It turns out that this pneumonia is a form of a macrolide-resistant

00:02:37.340 mycoplasma pneumonia. So this is an established organism that does cause pneumonia mainly in

00:02:44.060 children. It's a very small bacteria. It gets inside human cells. And the unique aspect to this

00:02:50.320 is that it's not responsive to azithromycin is what we usually use, but it's exquisitely sensitive

00:02:55.580 to using quinolones, various forms of cifrofloxacin and related drugs, as well as tetracyclines

00:03:02.100 like doxycycline. So her case cleared up very quickly on a quinolone. So this is very different

00:03:08.380 than COVID-19. This will be easily treated. I thought it is interesting that the Chinese only 1.00

00:03:14.100 tested her patient for influenza and COVID. They actually didn't have the type of test we have in

00:03:19.860 the United States that could identify the organism within about 20 minutes with a standard multiplex

00:03:25.780 panel.

00:03:26.380 That's interesting, too, because it became, of course, then a mystery disease of last week. We're at

00:03:33.620 what? I guess the sixth day, seventh day, perhaps, of being aware of awareness of this epidemic there.

00:03:42.900 So why are we not hearing, in your best judgment, from the public health agencies? And why have we heard

00:03:50.180 some stirrings about, oh, yes, here comes a disease that's even worse than COVID-19 or the Wuhan flu?

00:03:58.140 It almost seems like it's intentional, fear-mongering, Lou. Our agencies should get well

00:04:03.060 ahead of this. There's over 150 peer-reviewed publications on this illness. The Koreans and

00:04:08.140 Chinese have been reporting on it for the last several years. There's an outbreak in the Netherlands.

00:04:12.620 It'll be the same. And if doctors and hospitals were adequately briefed on this, we could be ready

00:04:19.060 with the right antibiotics and snuff this out right away. So in this case, it's another failing of our

00:04:24.340 public health system.

00:04:25.900 Another failing of the public health system. And it is, to me, more than passing strange that we

00:04:32.880 learn also, just about now, that YouTube and the White House were working to censor dissenting views,

00:04:42.320 differentiated scientific views, if you will. And the House Judiciary Committee just learning

00:04:48.940 this. It looks like this has been a full-on, we knew it was bad, but it's a full-on propaganda,

00:04:58.900 misinformation, disinformation campaign by our own government against the American people.

00:05:05.780 Indeed, it was a worldwide campaign to mislead the entire world on this. The targeted areas of

00:05:12.500 suppression was early treatment for COVID-19. All the various forms of early treatment from

00:05:17.980 nasal sprays and gargles down to the high-tech monoclonal antibodies, they were all suppressed.

00:05:24.600 We know that information on natural immunity was suppressed by YouTube. You know, there's a paper

00:05:30.740 written in medical internet research suggesting that YouTube was 94% successful in suppressing any hope

00:05:38.240 on treatment and just promoting this government narrative of lockdowns, masking, and waiting for

00:05:44.440 vaccines. You know, if it were not for you and a handful of other doctors who had the courage to

00:05:51.400 speak out and to talk straight about what was happening, I don't know what actually would have

00:05:58.080 been the result. We are fortunate to have had your courage and your great knowledge

00:06:03.880 as a physician. But to think that we are reliant upon individual citizen warriors to stand up for

00:06:17.360 truth is, I'm concerned about it. I don't know if we have more or if we have fewer right now than we

00:06:24.240 were fortunate enough to have during the pandemic. My colleagues in major academic medical centers

00:06:30.860 all feel inhibited, like they can't speak their mind, they can't, you know, perform independent

00:06:37.240 research. You know, there was no new treatment protocols that came from Harvard or Mayo Clinic or

00:06:43.460 Emory, any of our blue ribbon institutions. They were completely silent on COVID. You know,

00:06:49.000 none of these institutions claim to be a center of excellence for treatment of COVID or now complications

00:06:54.780 after the vaccines. It's really astonishing that the American medical bravado was completely absent

00:07:02.600 during COVID-19. Everybody wants to be the best in cancer or heart disease, but where's hospitals that

00:07:08.220 say they're best and having Americans survive COVID? We're largely through the pandemic, and this is

00:07:13.800 going to be looking backwards, but I think we need to do a postmortem on the failure of the American 1.00

00:07:18.960 medical system. You would think that that would be an insistent reflex on the part of the establishment

00:07:27.220 itself. Where we are with the CDC, it seems to me, is very unusual, even by the standards that we grew

00:07:36.900 accustomed to in the pandemic. They're now trying to push, and the White House seemingly, to push

00:07:43.680 responsibility for Americans' public health away from the CDC, the NIH. They're trying to, it seems,

00:07:51.500 engage the World Health Organization as some sort of supra government agency for not only the United

00:07:59.900 States, but indeed Europe and the world. That's exactly what the WHO wants with its Pandemic

00:08:06.700 Treaty Alliance and International Health Regulations. They actually want to be in a power and control

00:08:11.620 position, and through the WHO power and network, then influence the CDC and all the other public

00:08:19.540 health agencies. Remember, the WHO is not elected. It's largely funded by the CCP and the Gates

00:08:25.960 Foundation, and the WHO doesn't help us medically in our practice whatsoever. Recently, now New Zealand,

00:08:33.900 Slovakia, the Philippines, many countries now are pulling out of the WHO. They're not going to go

00:08:40.480 along with this Pandemic Treaty Alliance. Yeah, it's, oh, that's encouraging to hear, and why we would

00:08:47.720 not. Our, give us your best read as to how superior is American medicine. Once it was the envy of the

00:08:58.780 world, I worry that it might be something else now. You know, still to this day, American medicine,

00:09:04.900 again, is such a, you know, such a blue ribbon aspect of our lives. It's high tech. We have the

00:09:13.700 best training. Doctors from all over the world come here to train, not vice versa. An example is the

00:09:19.360 Chinese didn't have the basic technology to diagnose mycoplasma pneumonia and give us an update,

00:09:25.220 and we have it here. But what we're not seeing is we're not seeing promotion of independent thinking,

00:09:32.000 of research that clearly is independent of the influences of big pharmaceutical or vaccine

00:09:38.400 companies. And Americans have really lost their trust of the healthcare system through the pandemic.

00:09:44.960 I think shutting down, Lou, was a giant disaster. We never should have done it. Our doors should have

00:09:49.660 been open, and we should have been helping Americans through the pandemic. Instead, they felt as if they

00:09:55.080 were abandoned. I want to take that up with you right after these quick words, and we'll be back.

00:10:02.500 We're talking with Dr. Peter McCullough. We're going to talk more about preparedness for what it seems the

00:10:09.000 Biden administration is intent upon fear-mongering just as soon as they can determine what will be

00:10:15.420 most serviceable to them in that regard. This time, apparently, a fizzle from China. We'll talk further 0.68

00:10:22.780 with Dr. McCullough. Stay with us. We're back now with Peter McCullough. We're, by the way, the host of

00:10:33.860 the McCullough Report, and we're delighted to have you with us. We encourage you to follow his podcast

00:10:40.280 and him, as do we. Let's turn to what we're seeing now is the idea of a mystery pneumonia that was

00:10:49.300 starting to percolate up as something that the administration could really get its hands on.

00:10:54.540 You could just see it, and now it's sort of gone poof, hasn't it?

00:11:00.700 It's true. This mysterious Chinese pneumonia now found out to be macrolide-resistant mycoplasma

00:11:08.360 pneumonia, easily treated with available antibiotics. But don't forget, we've already been through

00:11:12.720 a false fear campaign with monkeypox. Biden administration and HHS Becerra declared national

00:11:21.400 and public health emergencies, respectively, for monkeypox. That wasn't the case at all. It was a very

00:11:26.460 limited outbreak to largely gay and bisexual men. It was easily handled with a drug called

00:11:31.180 Ticovirumat. There's no reason to put the whole country on national alert for these types of diseases

00:11:37.400 that we handle. Now we hear, Lou, about Disease X and Peter Daszak at the EcoHealth Alliance,

00:11:43.840 who played a key role, it looks like, in the creation of SARS-CoV-2 virus in the Wuhan Institute 0.88

00:11:50.720 of Virology. Peter Daszak, in 2018, published on Disease X with great enthusiasm, saying that there'll

00:11:56.640 be another disease, one after another, and that we must respond with mass vaccination over and over again.

00:12:03.160 The mass vaccination, I haven't seen the latest numbers of vaccinations. I think the last one I

00:12:13.280 saw was somewhere around 17 or 18% of the American population with the vaccine at this point. But we're

00:12:22.380 also hearing these other reports for the UK, for example, that 94% of the deaths from COVID were from

00:12:31.680 those who had been triple or quadruple vaccinated. What do you make of that report?

00:12:38.920 It's true. You know, the randomized trials never showed a reduction in hospitalization and death

00:12:43.800 infector. Critical analysis of the Pfizer program by Michaels and colleagues showed actually an excess

00:12:49.100 risk of death with Pfizer, particularly cardiovascular death. So we knew the vaccines weren't going to

00:12:53.940 save people from dying of COVID. But as they were deployed, we saw mass failure. There's a paper by

00:13:00.140 Shretha and colleagues from Cleveland Clinic. With each successive vaccine, the workers are more

00:13:05.620 likely to get sick with COVID-19. For some reason, it seems to knock down the immune system. We know

00:13:10.900 the vaccines have been hopelessly behind and catching up with the various mutant strains. Now,

00:13:16.720 two organizations, Lou, since we're really at the end of this, are calling for withdrawal of the

00:13:21.700 vaccines. World Council for Health nationally and the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons

00:13:26.760 here in the United States. And do you think that'll come to pass?

00:13:31.080 It should. I've called on the floor of the U.S. Senate, as well as European Parliament, the Brazilian

00:13:37.580 Chamber of Deputies. And then next week, I'll be in the lower house in the in the UK. There's calls

00:13:44.340 all over the world to just retire these vaccines. I made a presentation yesterday at Old Parkland Campus

00:13:50.440 in Dallas, Lou. I know the Texas numbers well. We've had 92,000 Texans who've died either with or,

00:13:57.460 you know, with testing positive for COVID. Overall, in the pandemic, only 1513 were in 2023. So we're down

00:14:07.240 to a very small number of people who would ever test positive. It's easily treatable. I think the

00:14:12.720 vaccine should be retired so we don't have any more worries about new side effects and then move on.

00:14:18.620 Are you are you surprised at the number of people who are deciding to resist any further

00:14:24.940 vaccination? It seems to be entirely organic. It does not seem to be a campaign that resulted in

00:14:32.360 any, you know, mass movement. But there does seem to be a rational rejection by the American public of

00:14:42.700 what they're being bombarded with advertisements every day from Pfizer and from Moderna and others.

00:14:51.420 It's true. People are doing their own research. Many have now had the virus, you know, two or three

00:14:56.640 times for them. It's mild, well tolerated. They just can't see a rationale for keep taking a shot

00:15:01.920 every six months. If someone is following the government instructions, you know, Mandy Cohen,

00:15:06.300 director of the CDC, if you're following exactly what she's telling us to do, people have had nine

00:15:11.660 shots. Lou, we've never given nine shots for a vaccine before. Yeah, it's incredible. And we're

00:15:17.660 also hearing in reports from whistleblowers, the US Navy for its pilots, apparently at least one

00:15:24.860 whistleblower saying that they have seen more than doubling of myocarditis responses to the vaccine

00:15:34.220 and significant cardiac disease. It's true. Our CDC and FDA warned us in June of 2021 that the COVID

00:15:47.640 vaccines cause myocarditis or heart damage. Two prospective cohort studies, one by Mansoogian,

00:15:54.000 the other one by Buren show the rate is about 2.5% per shot. And that so it may seem like a small

00:16:00.580 number, but it's not, it adds up. And so if there's heart damage, there's a risk of a cardiac

00:16:05.060 arrest. That's the great concern in pilots and others who are, you know, their jobs actually

00:16:10.960 influence the lives of others. The FDA and CDC never gave us any strategies, any risk mitigation

00:16:17.640 strategies. Now we have a great concern as a cardiologist. I'm seeing this on a daily basis.

00:16:23.560 I want to ask you one question as we move toward concluding here. What is, is there a

00:16:30.420 basic kit, if you will, of medicines, treatments that should be on hand in every household just for

00:16:40.660 the, the odd chance that we do have a serious, serious virus and pandemic?

00:16:48.760 You know, the wellness company and I advise them as the chief scientific officers introduced

00:16:53.680 an emergency medical kit, which is exactly what you describe. It's pretty broad based. It could,

00:16:58.600 it could handle this new Chinese pneumonia. It can handle, you know, everything from a dog bite to

00:17:03.680 anthrax. So it has a necessary pharmacopoeia, a guidebook, but also a telemedicine consult with

00:17:11.580 a doctor on the other end of the line to help. I think everybody ought to be outfitted with one

00:17:15.560 of these kits. It's one kit per adult. And then they have a specialized COVID kit that, you know,

00:17:20.520 provides the right medicines, including the types of nebulizers that we would use to get people

00:17:25.560 through COVID. These kits have been, I think, well-received. People do not want to get burned

00:17:30.940 again, and they want to have everything at home, ready to go. If indeed what Bill Gates and Tedros and

00:17:38.040 Peter Hotez and Fauci say, they say we're going to be hit with another pandemic. We better get ready.

00:17:44.380 Indeed, we shall. We're going to take a quick break here, come back. And Peter McCullough,

00:17:50.040 we're going to answer your concluding thoughts. And you just mentioned a couple of names whose names

00:17:56.660 are, I think, now somewhat controversial. I'd just like to get your concluding thoughts on a few of

00:18:02.380 those. We'll be right back with Dr. Peter McCullough. We're back now. We're talking with Dr. Peter

00:18:13.180 McCullough. And as we went to break there, you mentioned two names that I think are highlighted

00:18:21.720 in history of the pandemic. And that, of course, Bill Gates and the WHO's Tedros.

00:18:30.080 Give us your assessment of where they are and how they fared, given at least the space of time now

00:18:40.200 that we have to evaluate what they forecast, what they sought, and what they did.

00:18:46.040 Both Gates and Tedros are not doctors. I think this is important to understand. But yet they're

00:18:52.100 out there in the public health space very visibly. Gates and actually the World Economic Forum formed

00:18:58.440 CEPI, the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness and Innovation. That's an NGO. Again, we didn't elect them.

00:19:04.040 Very well funded. The CEPI business plan says there'll be a series of pandemics. And for each one,

00:19:09.800 there'll be one answer that is mass vaccination. There are so many bio labs out there that are

00:19:15.520 unregulated that are working to develop more infectious and more lethal pathogens, as well as

00:19:20.980 countermeasures, which are forms of therapeutics, monoclonal antibodies, and vaccines. We don't hear about

00:19:26.940 missile systems and missile defense systems, but we hear about biological threats and countermeasures.

00:19:32.900 This seems to be the new area that both research scientists, NGOs, governments are hotly involved

00:19:40.520 with. Hotly involved. We find in Fresno County, California, a bio lab with a connection, a direct

00:19:49.760 connection to the CCP, but no investigation. And it's been almost a full year since that was discovered

00:19:58.040 purely by accident, not by investigation. We now find out that Dr. Fauci was putting a bio lab for

00:20:07.640 gain of function research in Montana without anyone's knowledge. Your reaction to those discoveries

00:20:15.860 and the peculiar responses by our government? Americans should know that the National Institutes

00:20:22.360 of Health has a ban on funding gain of function research from the government. That doesn't mean

00:20:27.960 gain of function research is outlawed. It's not. In fact, it's done all over. I recently testified in

00:20:34.260 the Arizona Senate and an action item I gave them is they should do an inventory of all the gain of

00:20:39.660 function research going on in their state. They ought to know about it. And I think, you know,

00:20:44.880 a proactive step would be to shut it down. This isn't science for science sake. This is actually

00:20:50.080 creating new organisms, bacteria, viruses, and fungi that can actually harm us. We've already been

00:20:56.600 burned with COVID-19. If gain of function research continues on, there probably will be another

00:21:01.800 breakdown in some lab and the world could get sick all over again. Well, doctor, it's always great

00:21:07.280 talking with you and very, you know, both informative, helpful, and frankly, inspiring. We admire your

00:21:14.960 courage and your insistence on speaking your scientific mind on scientific issues. We're

00:21:24.820 going to, as we always do, give you the last word here on The Great America Show. Your concluding

00:21:30.960 thoughts, if you would, today. Yeah, I think we're largely through the COVID-19 pandemic. People have

00:21:36.360 returned to normal. I think we should be vigilant, though. People should do their own research,

00:21:41.500 have their own form of personal protection and defenses at home. And I'm not talking about a

00:21:47.400 mask. I'm talking about, you know, having some basic medicines on hand, having virucidal nasal

00:21:53.440 washes and gargles. That's the first defense against anything we're going to inhale. And we have to

00:21:58.740 understand that, you know, we cannot rely on the government or even the medical orthodoxy to save

00:22:04.640 us in a time of crisis. We really should be looking for innovative leaders who are thinking outside the

00:22:10.040 box. Sadly, those leaders were heavily suppressed on mainstream and social media. Thank you so much

00:22:15.780 for having me on the show, Lou. Doctor, always a pleasure to talk to you. Thanks for being with

00:22:20.080 us. God bless you. Thank you. Our guest here tomorrow on The Great America Show is the great

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The Great America Show - December 26, 2023

Best Of Lou Dobbs： McCULLOUGH SAYS CHINA’S “MYSTERY FLU” IS NO MYSTERY

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