Best Of Lou Dobbs： McCULLOUGH SAYS CHINA’S “MYSTERY FLU” IS NO MYSTERY
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What's going on with the China Virus? Is it still here? Is there an epidemic there? Do you need to get vaccinated? What are the symptoms? And should we even be worried about it? Here on The Great America Show, we turn to Dr. Peter McCullough to give us the answers.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show. Great to have you with us.
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There are a lot of Americans wondering this holiday season about what's going on with the China virus.
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Is it still here? Is it coming? How worried should we be? Do you need to get vaccinated? What are the
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symptoms and should you even be worried at all? There are very few doctors we rely on these days to
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give us the truth. Here on The Great America Show, we turn to one of the best and that is Dr. Peter
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McCullough. Dr. McCullough, great to have you back with us. Suddenly, we've got a lot of talk,
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particularly among the public health agencies, about China and what appears to be an epidemic there,
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but it's denied once again by Chinese public health authorities. We have no real comments of any
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substantive kind coming from either the White House or CDC or any of the public health agencies.
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If you will, doctor, tell us what in the world is going on here.
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You're right. The U.S. public health agencies have been silent. They haven't
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informed us at all. The WHO says that it's inquiring of the Chinese. Now, I was fortunate to get
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firsthand report from Dr. Michelle Schechter in Brazil who received a patient back from China
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who had this Chinese pneumonia. It turns out that this pneumonia is a form of a macrolide-resistant
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mycoplasma pneumonia. So this is an established organism that does cause pneumonia mainly in
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children. It's a very small bacteria. It gets inside human cells. And the unique aspect to this
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is that it's not responsive to azithromycin is what we usually use, but it's exquisitely sensitive
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to using quinolones, various forms of cifrofloxacin and related drugs, as well as tetracyclines
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like doxycycline. So her case cleared up very quickly on a quinolone. So this is very different
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than COVID-19. This will be easily treated. I thought it is interesting that the Chinese only
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tested her patient for influenza and COVID. They actually didn't have the type of test we have in
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the United States that could identify the organism within about 20 minutes with a standard multiplex
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That's interesting, too, because it became, of course, then a mystery disease of last week. We're at
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what? I guess the sixth day, seventh day, perhaps, of being aware of awareness of this epidemic there.
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So why are we not hearing, in your best judgment, from the public health agencies? And why have we heard
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some stirrings about, oh, yes, here comes a disease that's even worse than COVID-19 or the Wuhan flu?
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It almost seems like it's intentional, fear-mongering, Lou. Our agencies should get well
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ahead of this. There's over 150 peer-reviewed publications on this illness. The Koreans and
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Chinese have been reporting on it for the last several years. There's an outbreak in the Netherlands.
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It'll be the same. And if doctors and hospitals were adequately briefed on this, we could be ready
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with the right antibiotics and snuff this out right away. So in this case, it's another failing of our
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Another failing of the public health system. And it is, to me, more than passing strange that we
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learn also, just about now, that YouTube and the White House were working to censor dissenting views,
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differentiated scientific views, if you will. And the House Judiciary Committee just learning
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this. It looks like this has been a full-on, we knew it was bad, but it's a full-on propaganda,
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misinformation, disinformation campaign by our own government against the American people.
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Indeed, it was a worldwide campaign to mislead the entire world on this. The targeted areas of
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suppression was early treatment for COVID-19. All the various forms of early treatment from
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nasal sprays and gargles down to the high-tech monoclonal antibodies, they were all suppressed.
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We know that information on natural immunity was suppressed by YouTube. You know, there's a paper
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written in medical internet research suggesting that YouTube was 94% successful in suppressing any hope
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on treatment and just promoting this government narrative of lockdowns, masking, and waiting for
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vaccines. You know, if it were not for you and a handful of other doctors who had the courage to
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speak out and to talk straight about what was happening, I don't know what actually would have
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been the result. We are fortunate to have had your courage and your great knowledge
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as a physician. But to think that we are reliant upon individual citizen warriors to stand up for
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truth is, I'm concerned about it. I don't know if we have more or if we have fewer right now than we
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were fortunate enough to have during the pandemic. My colleagues in major academic medical centers
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all feel inhibited, like they can't speak their mind, they can't, you know, perform independent
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research. You know, there was no new treatment protocols that came from Harvard or Mayo Clinic or
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Emory, any of our blue ribbon institutions. They were completely silent on COVID. You know,
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none of these institutions claim to be a center of excellence for treatment of COVID or now complications
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after the vaccines. It's really astonishing that the American medical bravado was completely absent
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during COVID-19. Everybody wants to be the best in cancer or heart disease, but where's hospitals that
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say they're best and having Americans survive COVID? We're largely through the pandemic, and this is
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going to be looking backwards, but I think we need to do a postmortem on the failure of the American
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medical system. You would think that that would be an insistent reflex on the part of the establishment
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itself. Where we are with the CDC, it seems to me, is very unusual, even by the standards that we grew
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accustomed to in the pandemic. They're now trying to push, and the White House seemingly, to push
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responsibility for Americans' public health away from the CDC, the NIH. They're trying to, it seems,
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engage the World Health Organization as some sort of supra government agency for not only the United
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States, but indeed Europe and the world. That's exactly what the WHO wants with its Pandemic
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Treaty Alliance and International Health Regulations. They actually want to be in a power and control
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position, and through the WHO power and network, then influence the CDC and all the other public
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health agencies. Remember, the WHO is not elected. It's largely funded by the CCP and the Gates
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Foundation, and the WHO doesn't help us medically in our practice whatsoever. Recently, now New Zealand,
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Slovakia, the Philippines, many countries now are pulling out of the WHO. They're not going to go
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along with this Pandemic Treaty Alliance. Yeah, it's, oh, that's encouraging to hear, and why we would
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not. Our, give us your best read as to how superior is American medicine. Once it was the envy of the
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world, I worry that it might be something else now. You know, still to this day, American medicine,
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again, is such a, you know, such a blue ribbon aspect of our lives. It's high tech. We have the
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best training. Doctors from all over the world come here to train, not vice versa. An example is the
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Chinese didn't have the basic technology to diagnose mycoplasma pneumonia and give us an update,
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and we have it here. But what we're not seeing is we're not seeing promotion of independent thinking,
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of research that clearly is independent of the influences of big pharmaceutical or vaccine
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companies. And Americans have really lost their trust of the healthcare system through the pandemic.
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I think shutting down, Lou, was a giant disaster. We never should have done it. Our doors should have
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been open, and we should have been helping Americans through the pandemic. Instead, they felt as if they
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were abandoned. I want to take that up with you right after these quick words, and we'll be back.
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We're talking with Dr. Peter McCullough. We're going to talk more about preparedness for what it seems the
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Biden administration is intent upon fear-mongering just as soon as they can determine what will be
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most serviceable to them in that regard. This time, apparently, a fizzle from China. We'll talk further
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with Dr. McCullough. Stay with us. We're back now with Peter McCullough. We're, by the way, the host of
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the McCullough Report, and we're delighted to have you with us. We encourage you to follow his podcast
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and him, as do we. Let's turn to what we're seeing now is the idea of a mystery pneumonia that was
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starting to percolate up as something that the administration could really get its hands on.
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You could just see it, and now it's sort of gone poof, hasn't it?
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It's true. This mysterious Chinese pneumonia now found out to be macrolide-resistant mycoplasma
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pneumonia, easily treated with available antibiotics. But don't forget, we've already been through
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a false fear campaign with monkeypox. Biden administration and HHS Becerra declared national
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and public health emergencies, respectively, for monkeypox. That wasn't the case at all. It was a very
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limited outbreak to largely gay and bisexual men. It was easily handled with a drug called
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Ticovirumat. There's no reason to put the whole country on national alert for these types of diseases
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that we handle. Now we hear, Lou, about Disease X and Peter Daszak at the EcoHealth Alliance,
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who played a key role, it looks like, in the creation of SARS-CoV-2 virus in the Wuhan Institute
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of Virology. Peter Daszak, in 2018, published on Disease X with great enthusiasm, saying that there'll
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be another disease, one after another, and that we must respond with mass vaccination over and over again.
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The mass vaccination, I haven't seen the latest numbers of vaccinations. I think the last one I
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saw was somewhere around 17 or 18% of the American population with the vaccine at this point. But we're
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also hearing these other reports for the UK, for example, that 94% of the deaths from COVID were from
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those who had been triple or quadruple vaccinated. What do you make of that report?
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It's true. You know, the randomized trials never showed a reduction in hospitalization and death
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infector. Critical analysis of the Pfizer program by Michaels and colleagues showed actually an excess
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risk of death with Pfizer, particularly cardiovascular death. So we knew the vaccines weren't going to
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save people from dying of COVID. But as they were deployed, we saw mass failure. There's a paper by
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Shretha and colleagues from Cleveland Clinic. With each successive vaccine, the workers are more
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likely to get sick with COVID-19. For some reason, it seems to knock down the immune system. We know
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the vaccines have been hopelessly behind and catching up with the various mutant strains. Now,
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two organizations, Lou, since we're really at the end of this, are calling for withdrawal of the
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vaccines. World Council for Health nationally and the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons
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here in the United States. And do you think that'll come to pass?
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It should. I've called on the floor of the U.S. Senate, as well as European Parliament, the Brazilian
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Chamber of Deputies. And then next week, I'll be in the lower house in the in the UK. There's calls
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all over the world to just retire these vaccines. I made a presentation yesterday at Old Parkland Campus
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in Dallas, Lou. I know the Texas numbers well. We've had 92,000 Texans who've died either with or,
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you know, with testing positive for COVID. Overall, in the pandemic, only 1513 were in 2023. So we're down
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to a very small number of people who would ever test positive. It's easily treatable. I think the
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vaccine should be retired so we don't have any more worries about new side effects and then move on.
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Are you are you surprised at the number of people who are deciding to resist any further
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vaccination? It seems to be entirely organic. It does not seem to be a campaign that resulted in
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any, you know, mass movement. But there does seem to be a rational rejection by the American public of
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what they're being bombarded with advertisements every day from Pfizer and from Moderna and others.
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It's true. People are doing their own research. Many have now had the virus, you know, two or three
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times for them. It's mild, well tolerated. They just can't see a rationale for keep taking a shot
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every six months. If someone is following the government instructions, you know, Mandy Cohen,
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director of the CDC, if you're following exactly what she's telling us to do, people have had nine
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shots. Lou, we've never given nine shots for a vaccine before. Yeah, it's incredible. And we're
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also hearing in reports from whistleblowers, the US Navy for its pilots, apparently at least one
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whistleblower saying that they have seen more than doubling of myocarditis responses to the vaccine
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and significant cardiac disease. It's true. Our CDC and FDA warned us in June of 2021 that the COVID
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vaccines cause myocarditis or heart damage. Two prospective cohort studies, one by Mansoogian,
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the other one by Buren show the rate is about 2.5% per shot. And that so it may seem like a small
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number, but it's not, it adds up. And so if there's heart damage, there's a risk of a cardiac
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arrest. That's the great concern in pilots and others who are, you know, their jobs actually
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influence the lives of others. The FDA and CDC never gave us any strategies, any risk mitigation
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strategies. Now we have a great concern as a cardiologist. I'm seeing this on a daily basis.
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I want to ask you one question as we move toward concluding here. What is, is there a
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basic kit, if you will, of medicines, treatments that should be on hand in every household just for
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the, the odd chance that we do have a serious, serious virus and pandemic?
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You know, the wellness company and I advise them as the chief scientific officers introduced
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an emergency medical kit, which is exactly what you describe. It's pretty broad based. It could,
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it could handle this new Chinese pneumonia. It can handle, you know, everything from a dog bite to
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anthrax. So it has a necessary pharmacopoeia, a guidebook, but also a telemedicine consult with
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a doctor on the other end of the line to help. I think everybody ought to be outfitted with one
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of these kits. It's one kit per adult. And then they have a specialized COVID kit that, you know,
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provides the right medicines, including the types of nebulizers that we would use to get people
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through COVID. These kits have been, I think, well-received. People do not want to get burned
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again, and they want to have everything at home, ready to go. If indeed what Bill Gates and Tedros and
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Peter Hotez and Fauci say, they say we're going to be hit with another pandemic. We better get ready.
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Indeed, we shall. We're going to take a quick break here, come back. And Peter McCullough,
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we're going to answer your concluding thoughts. And you just mentioned a couple of names whose names
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are, I think, now somewhat controversial. I'd just like to get your concluding thoughts on a few of
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those. We'll be right back with Dr. Peter McCullough. We're back now. We're talking with Dr. Peter
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McCullough. And as we went to break there, you mentioned two names that I think are highlighted
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in history of the pandemic. And that, of course, Bill Gates and the WHO's Tedros.
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Give us your assessment of where they are and how they fared, given at least the space of time now
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that we have to evaluate what they forecast, what they sought, and what they did.
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Both Gates and Tedros are not doctors. I think this is important to understand. But yet they're
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out there in the public health space very visibly. Gates and actually the World Economic Forum formed
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CEPI, the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness and Innovation. That's an NGO. Again, we didn't elect them.
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Very well funded. The CEPI business plan says there'll be a series of pandemics. And for each one,
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there'll be one answer that is mass vaccination. There are so many bio labs out there that are
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unregulated that are working to develop more infectious and more lethal pathogens, as well as
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countermeasures, which are forms of therapeutics, monoclonal antibodies, and vaccines. We don't hear about
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missile systems and missile defense systems, but we hear about biological threats and countermeasures.
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This seems to be the new area that both research scientists, NGOs, governments are hotly involved
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with. Hotly involved. We find in Fresno County, California, a bio lab with a connection, a direct
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connection to the CCP, but no investigation. And it's been almost a full year since that was discovered
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purely by accident, not by investigation. We now find out that Dr. Fauci was putting a bio lab for
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gain of function research in Montana without anyone's knowledge. Your reaction to those discoveries
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and the peculiar responses by our government? Americans should know that the National Institutes
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of Health has a ban on funding gain of function research from the government. That doesn't mean
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gain of function research is outlawed. It's not. In fact, it's done all over. I recently testified in
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the Arizona Senate and an action item I gave them is they should do an inventory of all the gain of
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function research going on in their state. They ought to know about it. And I think, you know,
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a proactive step would be to shut it down. This isn't science for science sake. This is actually
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creating new organisms, bacteria, viruses, and fungi that can actually harm us. We've already been
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burned with COVID-19. If gain of function research continues on, there probably will be another
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breakdown in some lab and the world could get sick all over again. Well, doctor, it's always great
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talking with you and very, you know, both informative, helpful, and frankly, inspiring. We admire your
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courage and your insistence on speaking your scientific mind on scientific issues. We're
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going to, as we always do, give you the last word here on The Great America Show. Your concluding
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thoughts, if you would, today. Yeah, I think we're largely through the COVID-19 pandemic. People have
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returned to normal. I think we should be vigilant, though. People should do their own research,
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have their own form of personal protection and defenses at home. And I'm not talking about a
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mask. I'm talking about, you know, having some basic medicines on hand, having virucidal nasal
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washes and gargles. That's the first defense against anything we're going to inhale. And we have to
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understand that, you know, we cannot rely on the government or even the medical orthodoxy to save
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us in a time of crisis. We really should be looking for innovative leaders who are thinking outside the
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box. Sadly, those leaders were heavily suppressed on mainstream and social media. Thank you so much
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for having me on the show, Lou. Doctor, always a pleasure to talk to you. Thanks for being with
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us. God bless you. Thank you. Our guest here tomorrow on The Great America Show is the great
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Roger Stone. We discuss the latest in Congress and Speaker Mike Johnson's betrayal of the American
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