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Devin Nunes, CEO of the Trump Media and Technology Group joins the Great America Show to discuss the ongoing fight in the House of Representatives to reauthorize the surveillance law that allows the government to spy on Americans without a warrant.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show. Happy New Year. Great to have
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you with us. Well, as we're closing out this last episode of 2023, there's a lot to reflect upon.
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Things like, did we do our best to hold our political leaders accountable or have we given
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it our best to make this country a better place for our family, for our neighbors, for our communities?
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Well, there are a number of things to think about. And if you're a regular listener of the show,
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you know the standard to which we hold politicians to. It doesn't matter who they are, Republican,
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conservative, but we try to make certain there is some accountability. There's a lot to look forward
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to in this new year, and I'll soon have some exciting news for you. Let's just say you're going
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to be seeing a lot more of me very soon, but we'll save that news for the new year. I want to bring in
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our guest today. He's Devin Nunes, CEO of Trump Media and Technology Group. And Devin, always great
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to have you with us, and we always thank you for joining us. I want to start with the 702 reauthorization.
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It's still at the center, it seems, of, again, another major fight in the House of Representatives
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as we look forward to this new year. What's your thinking?
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Well, it's a deep subject, Lou. I think at the highest level, Americans need answers to the corruption
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at the DOJ and the FBI. And it dates back to, well, it dates back a long time, but for sure to the Russia
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hoax and all the way up to today where you see DOJ just targeting Donald Trump on basically making up
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crimes no different than what they've been doing since 2016 when they investigated for the phony
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Russia hoax. But, you know, there's other challenges, too, going back to the IRS scandal
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under Obama, et cetera, et cetera. So what they have to, what the members of Congress have to grapple with
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ultimately is, how are you going to stop the corruption at the DOJ that is threatening not only
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the security of our elections, but the Republican Party itself, where they're essentially trying to
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jail. I mean, if you think about this, nobody says it, but they're trying to jail the leading
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candidate for president right now. When I say leading, he's actually leading Biden in the polls
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also. They're trying to put him in jail. This isn't like some type of, oh, well, it'll be,
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it's just some court cases. It's just some, you know, issues here or there. No, these are,
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these, what they're targeting for is to put him in jail, Lou. So on one hand, you have the, you know,
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the authorization of FISA, which I always tell people, and I know this is, it's kind of complicated
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to understand, but, but it's, it's actually, it comes down to this. FISA was put in after Watergate
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when they found out that LBJ, they went after Nixon, but they actually found out that it was like LBJ
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and Kennedy and others were using the spy agencies to spy illegally on Americans. So Congress came up
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with creating the FISA court. So the challenge that you have is that 702 is only one piece of the
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puzzle. So to just, you know, you don't solve, and I think some of the members of Congress get a little
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bit, you know, maybe they're confused, maybe they just don't understand, or maybe it's how they
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articulate it, but just stopping 702 or killing 702 doesn't solve the problem. You have to go back
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to the base law that created the FISA court in the first place. If you truly want to fix all of the
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problems and the scandals, we have the justice department and the FBI today. So that really is
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the crux. So yes, there's a, so if you do nothing and, and 702 expires, um, it doesn't solve the
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problem overall. Um, it's just one piece of a, of a much larger puzzle, uh, that I think clearly we
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know now has been used, um, you know, has been used that, you know, and I'm not going to say 702
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specifically, but broader FISA has been a big problem. I mean, I was at the heart of all that. I mean,
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they, they, they, they used, uh, the FISA court to target a presidential candidate, uh, back in 2016
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that happened to be Donald Trump. And we know that they have also, uh, spied on private citizens,
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uh, through the 702s. And as you say, the, the FISA courts are in and of themselves, either it will
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be very liberal in this, uh, they're either, uh, very, very sloppy or they're corrupt or both.
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And they are at, uh, as you suggest, a foundation of a lot of issues. What, how would you go about,
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Yeah. So what you have to, what you have to look at is, uh, you know, let's just take one
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important data point. Um, because it's, and I hate to just go back to, uh, the Russia hoax,
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but it really is pretty, you know, it's, it's an example for kind of everything that's gone wrong
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because they used everything in the kitchen sink during the Russia hoax, um, at the time. And if you
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remember, if you go back to Strzok, uh, the lead, one of the lead FBI guys that was investigating
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Trump counterintelligence, they were using the counterintelligence division of DOJ and FBI.
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You had his, I don't know, girlfriend, whatever, the Lisa page. Um, they were, if you remember those,
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the text messages that by the way, judicial watch just was able to uncover that there's still,
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I don't know, some 1500 pages of text messages that we in Congress should have seen. And back in
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2017 and 18, we were not showing that, um, which is a, you know, rather incredible that that's gone
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on this long, but we know from those text messages and those communications at the time that they
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were judge shopping at the, to the FISA court. They were looking for specific judges that they knew
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would be on call at the time when they were going to take things to the court. At least that's what
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the circumstantial evidence showed, um, is that, is that they were looking for, they were judge
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shopping. So they're, so right there, you know, there's a problem with all of this. Um, look,
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I think the only solution is, um, and you know, and it's not a, it's not a perfect solution,
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but it's probably the only solution that would work for the whole, uh, entire, um, apparatus.
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And that is that the legislative branch, i.e. the U S house and the Senate need representatives
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as the third branch of government to oversee the executive branch and the judicial branch
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as it relates to, uh, the ability to, um, to target American citizens. I think that's more
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important. A lot of people are getting stuck now on a warrant. Well, I mean, as we know, you can get a
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warrant for anything. So what is that going to really stop? Um, you know, they've proven they
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can get a warrant to raid the former president's home on a, on a documents hoax. So I think the
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only way you do that is do it is have, um, you know, each body have multiple representatives from
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the Congress that, uh, report back to, uh, and work for, uh, the top leaders of both parties,
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house and Senate. Um, I think that is going to ultimately be the only, the only solution that
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would make me feel comfortable is having something like that in place. You're talking about
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oversight. Yeah. And I think, I think in embedded, embedded oversight, um, which work, I know the
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executive branch and the judicial branch won't like it, but I don't know what else you do because
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they can't be trusted. I have three branches of government for a reason. Yeah. I, I, I have to say to
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you, I don't care what the executive branch likes anymore. I don't care after what they have done to
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the American people, to a sitting president, uh, to an entire party. Uh, I, I don't care what they
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like, or they don't like. All I can see is, uh, Peter Strzok's evil face appearing out, uh, at the
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committee, uh, as he basically mocked them, uh, knowing full well that the system was so corrupt that
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he couldn't be touched. Uh, I, I, I see that vividly and I assure you that image alone is enough to make
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me, uh, indifferent to their wishes, preferences or dislikes. Yes, that's exactly right, Lou. And
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it's not just Strzok. I mean, he was one of the, one of many bad actors who just didn't give a damn.
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Um, and it shows, you know, they were just brazen and that's in that going back kind of full circle,
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you asked me, well, what do you do about 702? Like, what does it matter? Like, you're not going
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to solve, you're not going to ultimately solve the problem here. You know, so that, that's the,
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that's the challenge. Like you can let 702 go and guess what? Peter Strzok Jr. or other Peter
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Strzoks who are clearly at the DOJ, clearly with Jack Smith right now, clearly, uh, going other places
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like Atlanta and New York, you know, people are leaving DOJ, going to work for the attorney general
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of New York, bringing these case, these ridiculous cases against Donald Trump. So if you, if, you know,
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it should not be, I think members of Congress would do a disservice to say, well, I'm going to stand up
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and protect your rights and I'm not going to reauthorize 702. Well, you're not, I mean, you know,
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or you can even get rid of all of FISA, then what? You turn it back over to, you go pre 1978 or
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whatever that, whenever the original law was passed. So you have to put in, you have to come
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up with a big picture solution. Um, the only thing that I see that would work is, is having
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representatives from the legislative branch of government that get to see everything that a
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judge gets to see that the executive branch is providing so that they, when a Peter Strzok goes
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there, you know, that there's going to be multiple Republicans from house and Senate, um, that have
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access to this, that they have the ability to, you know, to, to immediately notify the proper,
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the appropriate leadership of Congress. Like I understand, and we kind of have a process like
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that set up that I was involved in that, that seemed to work pretty well. Um, so it would be modeled
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after that, which, which was the gang of eight process. So, um, you know, that's, to me, that's
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the only process that has a chance of working and doing nothing, um, or letting 702 expire. It doesn't
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matter one way or another, you're not going to get to the heart of the problem. Right. We're talking
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with Devin Nunes and we're talking about how to fix what is terribly wrong with our federal government
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that is now under the control of the deep state and the Marxist Dems and make no doubt about it.
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It is every agency. It is every department. Uh, we continue in just one moment. Please stay
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with us. We'll be right back. We're back with Devin Nunes and Devin, let's start with that 702.
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It seems to me for, for the sake of argument, the 702 is a good starting point to simply demonstrate
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the will of the house, uh, and then move to true reform. Uh, as you suggest, uh, I have a reservation
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by the way, about the gang of eight. Uh, I, I would like to see a broader representation,
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uh, frankly, rather than allow it to, uh, this critically important oversight of the executive
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branches, DOJ, particularly DHS, uh, the other agencies, uh, I'd like to see more, more of our
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representatives, if you will, represented in that oversight function. Am I wrong to think so?
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Well, that's essentially, that, that's another way of saying what I was saying, because the gang of eight,
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and that was one of the problems. The gang of eight had oversight. I was, I was a member of the gang of
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eight, but we had oversight mainly on, on, on overseas military and intelligence matters.
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So, so we, you know, we didn't, you know, people get the gang of eight confused to be, you know,
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we, we were not getting briefed on the, you know, highest cases of our, you know, of the government
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that, you know, on, you know, it really just involved overseas matters. And what I'm saying is that,
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that that same process, maybe broader, maybe you bring in the judiciary committee, you probably would
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have to bring in the judiciary committee. Um, so that would be like a Jim Jordan, um, along with,
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with the intelligence committees and the, and the leadership, maybe you bring in, um, both the,
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both leaders, uh, you know, maybe not, you know, not just, uh, the speaker, but maybe the majority
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leader also. So maybe you have four, like, for example, four house Republicans, um, represented.
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So you have four members of Congress in the room. Um, you know, that could be, uh, that could,
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you know, that, that, you know, there's probably a fine line between having, you know, the right
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number, um, um, um, you know, having too few or too many, but the key is having the right
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jurisdiction. So, you know, I, I didn't, as a gang of eight member, you know, I couldn't have
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went in like today and asked, uh, you know, I'm thinking of, you know, tell me what's going
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on. And, uh, and, you know, you, you pick the, the, the case number, they wouldn't share
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that with me. Um, you know, they, they would, you know, share things that were happening
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in, I'm just make believing for today. They would share kind of ongoing things that they
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were worried that would get out, say on the situation in, in Israel right now, right.
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If there was some major event that was going to take place, they wanted to make sure the
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Congress knew about it, say it was going to be, um, you know, some type of, of military
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action against some, some, um, you know, terrorists or, or what have you, or maybe a rescue
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situation. That's really what the gang of eight was used for. It wasn't used for this.
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And that's the challenge. Um, there's just not a, and I don't know of another process
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loop, because if you do nothing, then you revert back to what was even worse, which would
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be pre, you know, pre 78, 79, which would be an even worse situation. Then you want to
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talk about deep state, then they would really laugh all the way to the bank. I mean, the only
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thing that 702 is the reauthorization, it just happens to be a chance for Congress to,
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get a bite at the apple. Um, but what you're seeing is you're seeing this rush to, well,
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if we don't do this, really bad things are going to happen. You know, that's what we're
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being told. Well, yeah, really, really bad things could happen. It's quite possible.
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I mean, the bad things have happened in the past. They're going to happen in the future.
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Having these tools available are, are critically important, but not when the tools have all been
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broken across the board. So, you know, 702, Lou, I don't want to throw out, you know,
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I'm just going to throw a ballpark kind of numbers here. Sure. As I look, if you ask me,
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like, what is the problem here? You ask me, you know, give me the problems with the, you know,
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DOJ, FBI, FISA, the ability to spy on Americans. 702 is a small fraction, small, small fraction.
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Maybe you could remember they didn't use 702 to target Donald Trump. They were, they were using
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straight up fully authorized FISA to spy on, on Trump, to spy on the, the, uh, well, it was the
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Trump campaign, um, to target Trump, to tie, you know, to target, you know, the Carter pages of
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the world. Um, that's what they used back in 16. And look, I, I'm not sure in what they're targeting
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him with, with now. I don't think they use the FISA courts at all. They went to just regular judges.
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Right. And, you know, the DOJ appointed a, a special counsel in this Jack Smith character.
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I mean, it's, that's how bad this problem has become.
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I'm, I'm, I'm afraid it's even worse, uh, than we're discussing, uh, frankly, uh, because I don't
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think that, uh, given what we were witnessing, why would they go to a judge? They happen to have the,
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uh, organization, the architecture around them, that they can just simply, uh, use metadata.
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They can, uh, bore down, mine through whatever they want, or they can go with great specificity
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to spy on, uh, individuals. And by the way, that's happened to both you and me, uh, on the part of the
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federal government. Uh, there was no judge involved in, in that. I, I am pretty sure, uh, they just
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ordered it up. Well, that lets me put my truth social, uh, CEO hat that, you know, hat on for
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this conversation. Um, and you know, that's one of the things that, that, you know, we're learning
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now is just, you know, now that we know there is a free speech platform like true social, uh, you,
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you get to see it's now coming out. We, now we know why so many, uh, former FBI officials and DOJ
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officials ended up where they ended up working for Facebook and Twitter. And you know, not,
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and I would, I would actually argue that, that it's even worse than that. Let's forget DOJ or FBI
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doing it. I mean, yeah, I think they've, they've, they utilize those, those, uh, those opportunities
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as, as well to, to target Americans and other people. Uh, but, but I would argue that probably
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even worse is the bad political actors that are within these, within these, these huge companies,
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uh, that can really get in any information at, at any time on any of us. So we know the leadership
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of all of these big tech giants is all left wing. So what's to stop bad actors from within there,
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just getting all the information on you. They, they have it at their fingertips, you know? And so
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it's, it's, it's even worse than that. And they, they could, they could decide to share it with a
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Peter Strzok, Lisa Page type that's in the FBI or DOJ or not. They may want to, they may want to
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share it with a, say a George Soros operation. Um, you know, and it's, I mean, that's, that's,
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what's even worse. I mean, I think if, if, if somebody wants to target you and they have access to
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these big tech companies, it doesn't even have to be the U S government, uh, or an official there,
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it can be, it can be anyone, um, you know, which is why, you know, a true social, you know, we're
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so, you know, you know, we are so adamant about, you know, protecting our users. Um, you know,
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and look, if you do a legal activity on the platform, you know, you're, you're, you're either
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going to be gone or, you know, we will turn you over to the appropriate authorities. But if you're not
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conducting any, if you're not doing anything that's illegal, um, you know, we're not going to let the
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government come in and, and, or anybody else come in and get access to your information. And in fact,
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we don't even ask for the information, but, um, but these big tech companies have the ability
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to really track you around. And that stands in stark contrast to what happened with Twitter.
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Uh, when the federal government came asking the Biden administration comes asking Twitter,
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uh, for everything connected to Donald Trump's Twitter account, right? We're in an awful state,
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just an absolutely awful state. Uh, we now hear that, uh, January six, uh, the FBI had 200 agents in
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the crowd. Uh, we're going to take that up with Devin Nunes as we continue, uh, this, uh, discussion
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about, uh, what has happened, uh, uh, to, uh, to, uh, to 1984 is starting to feel, uh, a lot that way
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in 2023. We'll be right back with Devin Nunes. Stay with us. We're back with, uh, Devin Nunes and
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I want to, I want to turn to, uh, if we may the January 6th, it's starting to look even worse,
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uh, than we thought, uh, I guess, uh, if that's possible, uh, but 200 FBI agents, it's claimed
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we're in the crowds that day. We've got an FBI that's out of control, a department of justice
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that's out of control, uh, out of the control of oversight of Congress, certainly. And the people
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seem to be the target of our government. What is your thinking, Devin, about how we can reverse this?
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Well, what they're getting away with, forget what they're doing to Donald Trump, which is,
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which is, uh, you know, beyond anything. It's only what you see in third world countries. And I don't
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say that lightly, but lesser known is what they're doing to target people who were rightfully at our
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nation's Capitol. I was there. They were rightfully protesting, uh, you know, a variety of things,
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but mostly the, you know, they believe the election was, was unfair. There was a process in place.
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Congress was meeting in order to certify the electors. People have a right to be in Congress.
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That's, it's our right. And I said that from, from day one. Um, and that, that's, what's really
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kind of scary about this, Lou, is that you had so many Americans who were there expressing
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their rights, their first amendment rights as us citizens, like they should have most were there
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doing that. Right now. I've said this also from day one, any of the people who broke windows,
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that is illegal. That is against the law. You don't, you know, you don't have to have a, uh,
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you know, I think even my, you know, my young kids, uh, know that, uh, you can't go to the U S
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Capitol or any government building and use a hammer and break the window and break in. Like,
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I'm sorry. That's, that's against the law. You should get the maximum time. Anybody who broke
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those windows and climbed through those windows, sorry, gone. But you know, for the most part,
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Lou, I don't know too many of the people that are, that have at least been, that are being held
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in prison now, uh, or that are, that have been prosecuted that actually broke the windows.
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And you still have so many people. Remember all those famous videos of the, the people covered
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in masks that were breaking the windows. We don't know who those people are. Um, it seems like those
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people haven't been, uh, haven't been busted for the most part. I mean, they're prosecuting people
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who didn't even go inside the building. Now, how's that possible? Um, you know, I even get like the,
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I understand like, okay, you know, you had, you know, at some point there's, uh, you know,
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organizing people to go to DC. Look, that's legal. You can organize, you and I, Luke can go right now.
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We can organize the protest of whoever we want. And we can tell everybody on our social media,
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on true social, we can say, Hey, we're going to have, we're going to go to, to, you know,
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Joe blows, uh, congressional office and Lou and Devin are going to go inside and we're going to try to
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meet with the staff and we're going to protest. We're going to have our signs. Lou, we can do that.
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It's legal. Now where it becomes illegal is if, if, if you and I decide to go take
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a sledgehammer and break, you know, break a window and break or break a door and go into
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a congressional office. Okay. So that's where the difference is here. And that's why this is so
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dangerous in that, you know, once again, you had, you know, think about the, the, the, the insurrection
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that occurred just a few weeks ago of pro Hamas, pro Hamas demonstrators who blocked the entrance in
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the road around the Capitol. Right. Now, look that now that's illegal activity. And, but, but they
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had a right to be there. They had a right to go petition their Congress, but when they didn't sit
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block, block the Congress, you know, block the, the, the, the roads and all of that, that's where
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it crossed the line. Yeah. And there, and there's nothing being done about it.
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And yeah, nothing happened to it. Wait, why isn't the Republican party, a new speaker,
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Mike Johnson, why not defund the defilers of the, the people who are abusing power? We know Jack
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Smith. I mean, acting in concert with a federal judge, Beryl Howell to, to restrict Donald Trump.
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A presumptive, the presumptive presidential nominee, a former president, and they're treating
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him, you know, with just absolute contempt of his constitutional rights. Why isn't the Congress
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defunding that special counsel right now? Well, look, it's what, it's what you and I spoke
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about several months ago. I remember the first interview, you know, you asked me, what would you
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do? And I, and I was very clear. I said, look, the last thing you want to do, because everybody
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gets fixated on, oh, well, we should pass normal bills, go through the process, blah, blah, blah. And
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I said, no, I said, all you should do is do short-term CRs until you can get answers from the
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Department of Justice and the FBI on two very important subjects. One, their overall corruption
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from Donald Trump to the Rush Oaks to everything else, why nothing's happened to any of them,
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right? And you don't let them go and you don't fund the government until Ray and all of them
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give all the information on all of that, whether it's the struck and page text messages that Congress
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still doesn't have, or whether it's, you know, stopping Jack Smith, all of that should come to an
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end. That's, that's first and foremost. Okay. Secondly, we have an invasion at the border, which
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by the way, the Department of Justice is also involved in that because they're not even
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prosecuting anyone. They're too busy tracing Trump around. So I think that, I mean, look, that to me
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has been the only strategy that will work. If not, you're going to end up, you know, you mark my words,
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it doesn't, and I kind of, I think kind of hinted at this before, it doesn't matter what the speaker's
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name is. Ultimately, when you got like a three seat majority in the house and you got a Senate
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controlled by Democrats and you have Biden in the white house, you know, if you play with them,
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you're ultimately going to get an omnibus bill, or you're going to pass appropriations bills that
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are just going to continue government as usual. And so, you know, I think, and I understand like,
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you know, our, you know, some of my fellow colleagues say, well, CRs are bad. It means we're not doing
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our job. Well, not necessarily. I mean, that may be the only way to bring accountability if, you know,
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if you're basically on the verge of shutting down the government, you know, then what I would do is
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I'd be calling in Ray, calling in Jack Smith and say, look, if Jack Smith and Chris Ray and Merrick
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Garland and Lisa Monaco don't come in and provide these 10 things, if they provide these 10 things,
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the government will get funded for 30 more days. And then we'll review those, those things that we,
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that we are missing. And then we will decide if we're going to fund the government after that.
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Like, that's the only leverage you have. And it, and it puts a spotlight is, because what you don't
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want to fall into is, and I think this has been the challenge, Lou, is that every, and I get it,
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every member of Congress has everything they're interested in. And there's a, it's a big government.
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There's a lot of things for them to oversee, but that it's easy for the public to get lost in the
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minutia, bringing three or four individuals demanding that they come to the Congress,
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before the government is funded. People understand that. And people get that. They don't understand,
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you know, a hundred different issues, all important, but nothing more important than
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basically the election interference that's going on right now in 2024. And I think that's the,
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the biggest challenge that the, that the Republicans have is you have so many never Trump
00:29:30.360
fools. It's foolish for, for, you know, the, you know, you don't have to like Trump,
00:29:37.960
but I'm sorry if you're a U S representative or U S Senator at this point, you know, you have a
00:29:43.680
responsibility. You're, you know, the Republican party is going to be, is going to be dusted.
00:29:50.540
Nothing's going to be left, but dust and ashes if they don't do anything. So you don't have to like
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Trump, but guess what? The Republican party, the American people have decided through poll after
00:30:00.720
poll after poll that they like Donald Trump. So if you're an elected representative and you don't
00:30:05.940
like, you don't like Trump, that's fine. You don't have to, but what are you going to do about
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protecting the integrity of the election? And if you're not speaking out against it, which I don't
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think I've heard very many leaders speak out against the what's happening, at least in the Senate
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to Donald Trump or January six prisoners for that matter, what do you, you know, you're not going
00:30:27.180
to have a party left. Yeah. You're going to have one rule. You're going to have, you're going to be
00:30:31.940
ruled by, as you say, the Marxist dims or pro Hamas Marxist dims. I just want to say, first of all,
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thanks for joining us today and for your, your insights and your judgment. Mike, Mike Johnson,
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the new speaker, there is reporting that he is going to go for a one year seat, including seven
00:30:55.000
appropriators. He's not removing them from committees and that we are likely to see just
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more of the same. At least that's the reporting. We don't know the facts because Johnson hasn't seen
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fit to share that with the public. I mean, look, I would, I would, uh, the only way a CR works,
00:31:12.480
um, you know, is if you do short term CRs, continuing resolutions. Um, and look, there's
00:31:19.360
a lot of moving parts right now, but I'm sure what the Senate leadership on both the Democrat
00:31:24.120
and the, and the Republican side, they want to get like a couple big fat omnibus bills where they,
00:31:30.520
where they roll a bunch of appropriations built together, uh, and some writers, uh, you know, the,
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the policy writers that write on top of that and jam it and jam it through. And I think that that's why
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I go back to the best and only strategy are short-term CRs. That's, that's what I'd be
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advocating. Now, but look, Lou, it's easy for me and you. I mean, we're not, you know, we're not,
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we're not, we're not there every day, but, uh, look, you know, we have our rights to, to, to give
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our opinions. Amen. And thank you for sharing yours, Devin. We appreciate it. Devin Nunez, God bless you.
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Thank you. Thanks a lot, Lou. Great to be with you as always.
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