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00:01:18.340 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show. Happy New Year. Great to have

00:01:27.960 you with us. Well, as we're closing out this last episode of 2023, there's a lot to reflect upon.

00:01:35.160 Things like, did we do our best to hold our political leaders accountable or have we given

00:01:39.700 it our best to make this country a better place for our family, for our neighbors, for our communities?

00:01:45.200 Well, there are a number of things to think about. And if you're a regular listener of the show,

00:01:50.140 you know the standard to which we hold politicians to. It doesn't matter who they are, Republican,

00:01:55.760 conservative, but we try to make certain there is some accountability. There's a lot to look forward

00:02:01.960 to in this new year, and I'll soon have some exciting news for you. Let's just say you're going

00:02:07.400 to be seeing a lot more of me very soon, but we'll save that news for the new year. I want to bring in

00:02:13.800 our guest today. He's Devin Nunes, CEO of Trump Media and Technology Group. And Devin, always great

00:02:19.680 to have you with us, and we always thank you for joining us. I want to start with the 702 reauthorization.

00:02:25.900 It's still at the center, it seems, of, again, another major fight in the House of Representatives

00:02:30.980 as we look forward to this new year. What's your thinking?

00:02:34.800 Well, it's a deep subject, Lou. I think at the highest level, Americans need answers to the corruption

00:02:46.260 at the DOJ and the FBI. And it dates back to, well, it dates back a long time, but for sure to the Russia

00:02:54.400 hoax and all the way up to today where you see DOJ just targeting Donald Trump on basically making up

00:03:03.260 crimes no different than what they've been doing since 2016 when they investigated for the phony

00:03:07.620 Russia hoax. But, you know, there's other challenges, too, going back to the IRS scandal

00:03:13.280 under Obama, et cetera, et cetera. So what they have to, what the members of Congress have to grapple with

00:03:23.380 ultimately is, how are you going to stop the corruption at the DOJ that is threatening not only

00:03:33.500 the security of our elections, but the Republican Party itself, where they're essentially trying to

00:03:40.580 jail. I mean, if you think about this, nobody says it, but they're trying to jail the leading

00:03:45.980 candidate for president right now. When I say leading, he's actually leading Biden in the polls

00:03:50.080 also. They're trying to put him in jail. This isn't like some type of, oh, well, it'll be,

00:03:58.060 it's just some court cases. It's just some, you know, issues here or there. No, these are,

00:04:06.840 these, what they're targeting for is to put him in jail, Lou. So on one hand, you have the, you know,

00:04:12.400 the authorization of FISA, which I always tell people, and I know this is, it's kind of complicated

00:04:19.400 to understand, but, but it's, it's actually, it comes down to this. FISA was put in after Watergate

00:04:27.380 when they found out that LBJ, they went after Nixon, but they actually found out that it was like LBJ

00:04:32.620 and Kennedy and others were using the spy agencies to spy illegally on Americans. So Congress came up

00:04:40.080 with creating the FISA court. So the challenge that you have is that 702 is only one piece of the

00:04:48.960 puzzle. So to just, you know, you don't solve, and I think some of the members of Congress get a little

00:04:55.440 bit, you know, maybe they're confused, maybe they just don't understand, or maybe it's how they

00:05:00.120 articulate it, but just stopping 702 or killing 702 doesn't solve the problem. You have to go back

00:05:07.780 to the base law that created the FISA court in the first place. If you truly want to fix all of the

00:05:14.760 problems and the scandals, we have the justice department and the FBI today. So that really is

00:05:21.060 the crux. So yes, there's a, so if you do nothing and, and 702 expires, um, it doesn't solve the

00:05:29.960 problem overall. Um, it's just one piece of a, of a much larger puzzle, uh, that I think clearly we

00:05:37.220 know now has been used, um, you know, has been used that, you know, and I'm not going to say 702

00:05:43.260 specifically, but broader FISA has been a big problem. I mean, I was at the heart of all that. I mean,

00:05:49.020 they, they, they, they used, uh, the FISA court to target a presidential candidate, uh, back in 2016

00:05:57.400 that happened to be Donald Trump. And we know that they have also, uh, spied on private citizens,

00:06:05.800 uh, through the 702s. And as you say, the, the FISA courts are in and of themselves, either it will

00:06:16.160 be very liberal in this, uh, they're either, uh, very, very sloppy or they're corrupt or both.

00:06:27.360 And they are at, uh, as you suggest, a foundation of a lot of issues. What, how would you go about,

00:06:34.720 um, unwinding, unwinding all of this?

00:06:40.180 Yeah. So what you have to, what you have to look at is, uh, you know, let's just take one

00:06:47.740 important data point. Um, because it's, and I hate to just go back to, uh, the Russia hoax,

00:06:53.640 but it really is pretty, you know, it's, it's an example for kind of everything that's gone wrong

00:06:58.820 because they used everything in the kitchen sink during the Russia hoax, um, at the time. And if you

00:07:04.720 remember, if you go back to Strzok, uh, the lead, one of the lead FBI guys that was investigating

00:07:10.020 Trump counterintelligence, they were using the counterintelligence division of DOJ and FBI.

00:07:14.980 You had his, I don't know, girlfriend, whatever, the Lisa page. Um, they were, if you remember those,

00:07:24.200 the text messages that by the way, judicial watch just was able to uncover that there's still,

00:07:29.360 I don't know, some 1500 pages of text messages that we in Congress should have seen. And back in

00:07:34.700 2017 and 18, we were not showing that, um, which is a, you know, rather incredible that that's gone

00:07:40.840 on this long, but we know from those text messages and those communications at the time that they

00:07:47.520 were judge shopping at the, to the FISA court. They were looking for specific judges that they knew

00:07:53.800 would be on call at the time when they were going to take things to the court. At least that's what

00:07:58.640 the circumstantial evidence showed, um, is that, is that they were looking for, they were judge

00:08:04.520 shopping. So they're, so right there, you know, there's a problem with all of this. Um, look,

00:08:09.820 I think the only solution is, um, and you know, and it's not a, it's not a perfect solution,

00:08:16.940 but it's probably the only solution that would work for the whole, uh, entire, um, apparatus.

00:08:23.540 And that is that the legislative branch, i.e. the U S house and the Senate need representatives

00:08:32.300 as the third branch of government to oversee the executive branch and the judicial branch

00:08:39.560 as it relates to, uh, the ability to, um, to target American citizens. I think that's more

00:08:46.280 important. A lot of people are getting stuck now on a warrant. Well, I mean, as we know, you can get a

00:08:51.840 warrant for anything. So what is that going to really stop? Um, you know, they've proven they

00:08:57.140 can get a warrant to raid the former president's home on a, on a documents hoax. So I think the

00:09:04.080 only way you do that is do it is have, um, you know, each body have multiple representatives from

00:09:11.420 the Congress that, uh, report back to, uh, and work for, uh, the top leaders of both parties,

00:09:19.300 house and Senate. Um, I think that is going to ultimately be the only, the only solution that

00:09:24.540 would make me feel comfortable is having something like that in place. You're talking about

00:09:29.320 oversight. Yeah. And I think, I think in embedded, embedded oversight, um, which work, I know the

00:09:36.820 executive branch and the judicial branch won't like it, but I don't know what else you do because

00:09:41.600 they can't be trusted. I have three branches of government for a reason. Yeah. I, I, I have to say to

00:09:48.020 you, I don't care what the executive branch likes anymore. I don't care after what they have done to

00:09:53.320 the American people, to a sitting president, uh, to an entire party. Uh, I, I don't care what they

00:10:00.300 like, or they don't like. All I can see is, uh, Peter Strzok's evil face appearing out, uh, at the

00:10:06.980 committee, uh, as he basically mocked them, uh, knowing full well that the system was so corrupt that

00:10:13.720 he couldn't be touched. Uh, I, I, I see that vividly and I assure you that image alone is enough to make

00:10:20.480 me, uh, indifferent to their wishes, preferences or dislikes. Yes, that's exactly right, Lou. And

00:10:28.620 it's not just Strzok. I mean, he was one of the, one of many bad actors who just didn't give a damn.

00:10:34.220 Um, and it shows, you know, they were just brazen and that's in that going back kind of full circle,

00:10:38.960 you asked me, well, what do you do about 702? Like, what does it matter? Like, you're not going

00:10:43.940 to solve, you're not going to ultimately solve the problem here. You know, so that, that's the,

00:10:49.660 that's the challenge. Like you can let 702 go and guess what? Peter Strzok Jr. or other Peter

00:10:54.700 Strzoks who are clearly at the DOJ, clearly with Jack Smith right now, clearly, uh, going other places

00:11:01.040 like Atlanta and New York, you know, people are leaving DOJ, going to work for the attorney general

00:11:06.160 of New York, bringing these case, these ridiculous cases against Donald Trump. So if you, if, you know,

00:11:12.140 it should not be, I think members of Congress would do a disservice to say, well, I'm going to stand up

00:11:17.760 and protect your rights and I'm not going to reauthorize 702. Well, you're not, I mean, you know,

00:11:23.920 or you can even get rid of all of FISA, then what? You turn it back over to, you go pre 1978 or

00:11:30.080 whatever that, whenever the original law was passed. So you have to put in, you have to come

00:11:35.780 up with a big picture solution. Um, the only thing that I see that would work is, is having

00:11:42.320 representatives from the legislative branch of government that get to see everything that a

00:11:48.580 judge gets to see that the executive branch is providing so that they, when a Peter Strzok goes

00:11:53.240 there, you know, that there's going to be multiple Republicans from house and Senate, um, that have

00:11:59.300 access to this, that they have the ability to, you know, to, to immediately notify the proper,

00:12:06.500 the appropriate leadership of Congress. Like I understand, and we kind of have a process like

00:12:11.320 that set up that I was involved in that, that seemed to work pretty well. Um, so it would be modeled

00:12:16.960 after that, which, which was the gang of eight process. So, um, you know, that's, to me, that's

00:12:23.080 the only process that has a chance of working and doing nothing, um, or letting 702 expire. It doesn't

00:12:29.920 matter one way or another, you're not going to get to the heart of the problem. Right. We're talking

00:12:34.640 with Devin Nunes and we're talking about how to fix what is terribly wrong with our federal government

00:12:40.800 that is now under the control of the deep state and the Marxist Dems and make no doubt about it.

00:12:46.260 It is every agency. It is every department. Uh, we continue in just one moment. Please stay

00:12:51.660 with us. We'll be right back. We're back with Devin Nunes and Devin, let's start with that 702.

00:13:04.500 It seems to me for, for the sake of argument, the 702 is a good starting point to simply demonstrate

00:13:11.800 the will of the house, uh, and then move to true reform. Uh, as you suggest, uh, I have a reservation

00:13:21.060 by the way, about the gang of eight. Uh, I, I would like to see a broader representation,

00:13:26.080 uh, frankly, rather than allow it to, uh, this critically important oversight of the executive

00:13:34.080 branches, DOJ, particularly DHS, uh, the other agencies, uh, I'd like to see more, more of our

00:13:42.340 representatives, if you will, represented in that oversight function. Am I wrong to think so?

00:13:49.360 Well, that's essentially, that, that's another way of saying what I was saying, because the gang of eight,

00:13:54.600 and that was one of the problems. The gang of eight had oversight. I was, I was a member of the gang of

00:13:58.960 eight, but we had oversight mainly on, on, on overseas military and intelligence matters.

00:14:06.240 So, so we, you know, we didn't, you know, people get the gang of eight confused to be, you know,

00:14:10.380 we, we were not getting briefed on the, you know, highest cases of our, you know, of the government

00:14:15.660 that, you know, on, you know, it really just involved overseas matters. And what I'm saying is that,

00:14:23.120 that that same process, maybe broader, maybe you bring in the judiciary committee, you probably would

00:14:28.260 have to bring in the judiciary committee. Um, so that would be like a Jim Jordan, um, along with,

00:14:35.080 with the intelligence committees and the, and the leadership, maybe you bring in, um, both the,

00:14:40.620 both leaders, uh, you know, maybe not, you know, not just, uh, the speaker, but maybe the majority

00:14:45.000 leader also. So maybe you have four, like, for example, four house Republicans, um, represented.

00:14:51.280 So you have four members of Congress in the room. Um, you know, that could be, uh, that could,

00:14:56.940 you know, that, that, you know, there's probably a fine line between having, you know, the right

00:15:02.740 number, um, um, um, you know, having too few or too many, but the key is having the right

00:15:09.080 jurisdiction. So, you know, I, I didn't, as a gang of eight member, you know, I couldn't have

00:15:14.060 went in like today and asked, uh, you know, I'm thinking of, you know, tell me what's going

00:15:18.560 on. And, uh, and, you know, you, you pick the, the, the case number, they wouldn't share

00:15:22.840 that with me. Um, you know, they, they would, you know, share things that were happening

00:15:26.800 in, I'm just make believing for today. They would share kind of ongoing things that they

00:15:31.820 were worried that would get out, say on the situation in, in Israel right now, right.

00:15:37.180 If there was some major event that was going to take place, they wanted to make sure the

00:15:40.900 Congress knew about it, say it was going to be, um, you know, some type of, of military

00:15:45.900 action against some, some, um, you know, terrorists or, or what have you, or maybe a rescue

00:15:50.700 situation. That's really what the gang of eight was used for. It wasn't used for this.

00:15:55.740 And that's the challenge. Um, there's just not a, and I don't know of another process

00:15:59.520 loop, because if you do nothing, then you revert back to what was even worse, which would

00:16:05.620 be pre, you know, pre 78, 79, which would be an even worse situation. Then you want to

00:16:11.500 talk about deep state, then they would really laugh all the way to the bank. I mean, the only

00:16:14.960 thing that 702 is the reauthorization, it just happens to be a chance for Congress to,

00:16:20.680 get a bite at the apple. Um, but what you're seeing is you're seeing this rush to, well,

00:16:26.060 if we don't do this, really bad things are going to happen. You know, that's what we're

00:16:29.920 being told. Well, yeah, really, really bad things could happen. It's quite possible.

00:16:34.460 I mean, the bad things have happened in the past. They're going to happen in the future.

00:16:37.680 Having these tools available are, are critically important, but not when the tools have all been

00:16:43.560 broken across the board. So, you know, 702, Lou, I don't want to throw out, you know,

00:16:48.940 I'm just going to throw a ballpark kind of numbers here. Sure. As I look, if you ask me,

00:16:54.300 like, what is the problem here? You ask me, you know, give me the problems with the, you know,

00:17:00.020 DOJ, FBI, FISA, the ability to spy on Americans. 702 is a small fraction, small, small fraction.

00:17:07.580 Maybe you could remember they didn't use 702 to target Donald Trump. They were, they were using

00:17:14.220 straight up fully authorized FISA to spy on, on Trump, to spy on the, the, uh, well, it was the

00:17:21.700 Trump campaign, um, to target Trump, to tie, you know, to target, you know, the Carter pages of

00:17:26.440 the world. Um, that's what they used back in 16. And look, I, I'm not sure in what they're targeting

00:17:32.520 him with, with now. I don't think they use the FISA courts at all. They went to just regular judges.

00:17:38.380 Right. And, you know, the DOJ appointed a, a special counsel in this Jack Smith character.

00:17:43.340 I mean, it's, that's how bad this problem has become.

00:17:48.140 I'm, I'm, I'm afraid it's even worse, uh, than we're discussing, uh, frankly, uh, because I don't

00:17:54.180 think that, uh, given what we were witnessing, why would they go to a judge? They happen to have the,

00:18:00.420 uh, organization, the architecture around them, that they can just simply, uh, use metadata.

00:18:06.120 They can, uh, bore down, mine through whatever they want, or they can go with great specificity

00:18:11.660 to spy on, uh, individuals. And by the way, that's happened to both you and me, uh, on the part of the

00:18:17.900 federal government. Uh, there was no judge involved in, in that. I, I am pretty sure, uh, they just

00:18:25.720 ordered it up. Well, that lets me put my truth social, uh, CEO hat that, you know, hat on for

00:18:33.300 this conversation. Um, and you know, that's one of the things that, that, you know, we're learning

00:18:38.320 now is just, you know, now that we know there is a free speech platform like true social, uh, you,

00:18:44.700 you get to see it's now coming out. We, now we know why so many, uh, former FBI officials and DOJ

00:18:51.060 officials ended up where they ended up working for Facebook and Twitter. And you know, not,

00:18:56.980 and I would, I would actually argue that, that it's even worse than that. Let's forget DOJ or FBI

00:19:03.960 doing it. I mean, yeah, I think they've, they've, they utilize those, those, uh, those opportunities

00:19:09.620 as, as well to, to target Americans and other people. Uh, but, but I would argue that probably

00:19:16.860 even worse is the bad political actors that are within these, within these, these huge companies,

00:19:23.360 uh, that can really get in any information at, at any time on any of us. So we know the leadership

00:19:29.660 of all of these big tech giants is all left wing. So what's to stop bad actors from within there,

00:19:36.180 just getting all the information on you. They, they have it at their fingertips, you know? And so

00:19:41.540 it's, it's, it's even worse than that. And they, they could, they could decide to share it with a

00:19:45.760 Peter Strzok, Lisa Page type that's in the FBI or DOJ or not. They may want to, they may want to

00:19:51.220 share it with a, say a George Soros operation. Um, you know, and it's, I mean, that's, that's,

00:19:58.260 what's even worse. I mean, I think if, if, if somebody wants to target you and they have access to

00:20:03.540 these big tech companies, it doesn't even have to be the U S government, uh, or an official there,

00:20:08.840 it can be, it can be anyone, um, you know, which is why, you know, a true social, you know, we're

00:20:13.860 so, you know, you know, we are so adamant about, you know, protecting our users. Um, you know,

00:20:21.240 and look, if you do a legal activity on the platform, you know, you're, you're, you're either

00:20:25.100 going to be gone or, you know, we will turn you over to the appropriate authorities. But if you're not

00:20:30.200 conducting any, if you're not doing anything that's illegal, um, you know, we're not going to let the

00:20:34.480 government come in and, and, or anybody else come in and get access to your information. And in fact,

00:20:38.820 we don't even ask for the information, but, um, but these big tech companies have the ability

00:20:44.420 to really track you around. And that stands in stark contrast to what happened with Twitter.

00:20:51.180 Uh, when the federal government came asking the Biden administration comes asking Twitter,

00:20:56.220 uh, for everything connected to Donald Trump's Twitter account, right? We're in an awful state,

00:21:04.140 just an absolutely awful state. Uh, we now hear that, uh, January six, uh, the FBI had 200 agents in

00:21:13.900 the crowd. Uh, we're going to take that up with Devin Nunes as we continue, uh, this, uh, discussion

00:21:21.260 about, uh, what has happened, uh, uh, to, uh, to, uh, to 1984 is starting to feel, uh, a lot that way

00:21:29.340 in 2023. We'll be right back with Devin Nunes. Stay with us. We're back with, uh, Devin Nunes and

00:21:41.580 I want to, I want to turn to, uh, if we may the January 6th, it's starting to look even worse,

00:21:47.980 uh, than we thought, uh, I guess, uh, if that's possible, uh, but 200 FBI agents, it's claimed

00:21:55.620 we're in the crowds that day. We've got an FBI that's out of control, a department of justice

00:22:01.560 that's out of control, uh, out of the control of oversight of Congress, certainly. And the people

00:22:06.940 seem to be the target of our government. What is your thinking, Devin, about how we can reverse this?

00:22:13.360 Well, what they're getting away with, forget what they're doing to Donald Trump, which is,

00:22:17.640 which is, uh, you know, beyond anything. It's only what you see in third world countries. And I don't 1.00

00:22:22.640 say that lightly, but lesser known is what they're doing to target people who were rightfully at our

00:22:29.880 nation's Capitol. I was there. They were rightfully protesting, uh, you know, a variety of things,

00:22:36.180 but mostly the, you know, they believe the election was, was unfair. There was a process in place.

00:22:41.360 Congress was meeting in order to certify the electors. People have a right to be in Congress.

00:22:48.200 That's, it's our right. And I said that from, from day one. Um, and that, that's, what's really

00:22:53.300 kind of scary about this, Lou, is that you had so many Americans who were there expressing

00:22:57.960 their rights, their first amendment rights as us citizens, like they should have most were there

00:23:04.480 doing that. Right now. I've said this also from day one, any of the people who broke windows,

00:23:11.440 that is illegal. That is against the law. You don't, you know, you don't have to have a, uh,

00:23:16.640 you know, I think even my, you know, my young kids, uh, know that, uh, you can't go to the U S

00:23:21.780 Capitol or any government building and use a hammer and break the window and break in. Like,

00:23:26.280 I'm sorry. That's, that's against the law. You should get the maximum time. Anybody who broke

00:23:31.740 those windows and climbed through those windows, sorry, gone. But you know, for the most part,

00:23:37.280 Lou, I don't know too many of the people that are, that have at least been, that are being held

00:23:42.700 in prison now, uh, or that are, that have been prosecuted that actually broke the windows.

00:23:48.860 And you still have so many people. Remember all those famous videos of the, the people covered

00:23:53.180 in masks that were breaking the windows. We don't know who those people are. Um, it seems like those

00:23:57.040 people haven't been, uh, haven't been busted for the most part. I mean, they're prosecuting people

00:24:02.120 who didn't even go inside the building. Now, how's that possible? Um, you know, I even get like the,

00:24:10.340 I understand like, okay, you know, you had, you know, at some point there's, uh, you know,

00:24:16.540 organizing people to go to DC. Look, that's legal. You can organize, you and I, Luke can go right now.

00:24:21.780 We can organize the protest of whoever we want. And we can tell everybody on our social media,

00:24:26.880 on true social, we can say, Hey, we're going to have, we're going to go to, to, you know,

00:24:30.540 Joe blows, uh, congressional office and Lou and Devin are going to go inside and we're going to try to

00:24:36.040 meet with the staff and we're going to protest. We're going to have our signs. Lou, we can do that.

00:24:40.680 It's legal. Now where it becomes illegal is if, if, if you and I decide to go take

00:24:46.480 a sledgehammer and break, you know, break a window and break or break a door and go into

00:24:50.900 a congressional office. Okay. So that's where the difference is here. And that's why this is so

00:24:56.140 dangerous in that, you know, once again, you had, you know, think about the, the, the, the insurrection

00:25:03.460 that occurred just a few weeks ago of pro Hamas, pro Hamas demonstrators who blocked the entrance in

00:25:13.340 the road around the Capitol. Right. Now, look that now that's illegal activity. And, but, but they

00:25:22.340 had a right to be there. They had a right to go petition their Congress, but when they didn't sit

00:25:26.960 block, block the Congress, you know, block the, the, the, the roads and all of that, that's where

00:25:31.780 it crossed the line. Yeah. And there, and there's nothing being done about it.

00:25:35.720 And yeah, nothing happened to it. Wait, why isn't the Republican party, a new speaker,

00:25:42.340 Mike Johnson, why not defund the defilers of the, the people who are abusing power? We know Jack

00:25:52.380 Smith. I mean, acting in concert with a federal judge, Beryl Howell to, to restrict Donald Trump.

00:26:00.360 A presumptive, the presumptive presidential nominee, a former president, and they're treating

00:26:08.220 him, you know, with just absolute contempt of his constitutional rights. Why isn't the Congress

00:26:19.340 defunding that special counsel right now? Well, look, it's what, it's what you and I spoke

00:26:27.240 about several months ago. I remember the first interview, you know, you asked me, what would you

00:26:31.520 do? And I, and I was very clear. I said, look, the last thing you want to do, because everybody

00:26:37.060 gets fixated on, oh, well, we should pass normal bills, go through the process, blah, blah, blah. And

00:26:42.820 I said, no, I said, all you should do is do short-term CRs until you can get answers from the

00:26:53.100 Department of Justice and the FBI on two very important subjects. One, their overall corruption

00:26:59.100 from Donald Trump to the Rush Oaks to everything else, why nothing's happened to any of them,

00:27:03.140 right? And you don't let them go and you don't fund the government until Ray and all of them

00:27:08.020 give all the information on all of that, whether it's the struck and page text messages that Congress

00:27:12.740 still doesn't have, or whether it's, you know, stopping Jack Smith, all of that should come to an

00:27:17.900 end. That's, that's first and foremost. Okay. Secondly, we have an invasion at the border, which

00:27:23.400 by the way, the Department of Justice is also involved in that because they're not even

00:27:26.200 prosecuting anyone. They're too busy tracing Trump around. So I think that, I mean, look, that to me

00:27:33.000 has been the only strategy that will work. If not, you're going to end up, you know, you mark my words,

00:27:39.000 it doesn't, and I kind of, I think kind of hinted at this before, it doesn't matter what the speaker's

00:27:43.860 name is. Ultimately, when you got like a three seat majority in the house and you got a Senate

00:27:49.020 controlled by Democrats and you have Biden in the white house, you know, if you play with them,

00:27:53.420 you're ultimately going to get an omnibus bill, or you're going to pass appropriations bills that

00:27:57.840 are just going to continue government as usual. And so, you know, I think, and I understand like,

00:28:03.940 you know, our, you know, some of my fellow colleagues say, well, CRs are bad. It means we're not doing

00:28:07.860 our job. Well, not necessarily. I mean, that may be the only way to bring accountability if, you know,

00:28:15.260 if you're basically on the verge of shutting down the government, you know, then what I would do is

00:28:19.620 I'd be calling in Ray, calling in Jack Smith and say, look, if Jack Smith and Chris Ray and Merrick

00:28:25.240 Garland and Lisa Monaco don't come in and provide these 10 things, if they provide these 10 things,

00:28:32.160 the government will get funded for 30 more days. And then we'll review those, those things that we,

00:28:36.980 that we are missing. And then we will decide if we're going to fund the government after that.

00:28:41.420 Like, that's the only leverage you have. And it, and it puts a spotlight is, because what you don't

00:28:46.600 want to fall into is, and I think this has been the challenge, Lou, is that every, and I get it,

00:28:52.800 every member of Congress has everything they're interested in. And there's a, it's a big government.

00:28:56.620 There's a lot of things for them to oversee, but that it's easy for the public to get lost in the

00:29:01.600 minutia, bringing three or four individuals demanding that they come to the Congress,

00:29:06.800 before the government is funded. People understand that. And people get that. They don't understand,

00:29:14.240 you know, a hundred different issues, all important, but nothing more important than

00:29:18.900 basically the election interference that's going on right now in 2024. And I think that's the,

00:29:24.800 the biggest challenge that the, that the Republicans have is you have so many never Trump

00:29:30.360 fools. It's foolish for, for, you know, the, you know, you don't have to like Trump,

00:29:37.960 but I'm sorry if you're a U S representative or U S Senator at this point, you know, you have a

00:29:43.680 responsibility. You're, you know, the Republican party is going to be, is going to be dusted.

00:29:50.540 Nothing's going to be left, but dust and ashes if they don't do anything. So you don't have to like

00:29:55.660 Trump, but guess what? The Republican party, the American people have decided through poll after

00:30:00.720 poll after poll that they like Donald Trump. So if you're an elected representative and you don't

00:30:05.940 like, you don't like Trump, that's fine. You don't have to, but what are you going to do about

00:30:10.660 protecting the integrity of the election? And if you're not speaking out against it, which I don't

00:30:15.440 think I've heard very many leaders speak out against the what's happening, at least in the Senate

00:30:20.520 to Donald Trump or January six prisoners for that matter, what do you, you know, you're not going

00:30:27.180 to have a party left. Yeah. You're going to have one rule. You're going to have, you're going to be

00:30:31.940 ruled by, as you say, the Marxist dims or pro Hamas Marxist dims. I just want to say, first of all, 0.65

00:30:39.780 thanks for joining us today and for your, your insights and your judgment. Mike, Mike Johnson,

00:30:48.060 the new speaker, there is reporting that he is going to go for a one year seat, including seven

00:30:55.000 appropriators. He's not removing them from committees and that we are likely to see just

00:31:00.600 more of the same. At least that's the reporting. We don't know the facts because Johnson hasn't seen

00:31:06.220 fit to share that with the public. I mean, look, I would, I would, uh, the only way a CR works,

00:31:12.480 um, you know, is if you do short term CRs, continuing resolutions. Um, and look, there's

00:31:19.360 a lot of moving parts right now, but I'm sure what the Senate leadership on both the Democrat

00:31:24.120 and the, and the Republican side, they want to get like a couple big fat omnibus bills where they,

00:31:30.520 where they roll a bunch of appropriations built together, uh, and some writers, uh, you know, the,

00:31:35.980 the policy writers that write on top of that and jam it and jam it through. And I think that that's why

00:31:42.020 I go back to the best and only strategy are short-term CRs. That's, that's what I'd be

00:31:48.900 advocating. Now, but look, Lou, it's easy for me and you. I mean, we're not, you know, we're not,

00:31:53.180 we're not, we're not there every day, but, uh, look, you know, we have our rights to, to, to give

00:31:58.500 our opinions. Amen. And thank you for sharing yours, Devin. We appreciate it. Devin Nunez, God bless you.

00:32:05.980 Thank you. Thanks a lot, Lou. Great to be with you as always.

00:32:08.420 I want to wish all of you a happy new year and thanks for all of our tremendous success here on

00:32:14.440 The Great America Show. You make it possible for us to do this show each and every day. We thank you

00:32:19.680 for that. We wish you and your family a new year of success, health, and much happiness. God bless

00:32:26.480 you. We'll see you back here Tuesday. Thank you, everybody. May God bless America.

00:32:31.380 God bless America.

The Great America Show - December 31, 2023

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