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00:01:14.920Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show. Great to have you with us.
00:01:23.240A new Epstein document dump this week, shedding further light on just how perverse some of the
00:01:28.380country's most powerful people really are. The latest documents from Epstein victim Sarah Ransom.
00:01:35.620Ransom was one of the victims who gave the court a statement ahead of the sentencing
00:01:39.560of Epstein enabler Ghislaine Maxwell. In those documents, Ransom says she was aware of and has
00:01:47.840seen sex tapes that show Prince Andrew, Richard Branson and Bill Clinton having sex with underage
00:01:55.000girls. Epstein was reportedly known to secretly record his friends taking part in sexual acts with
00:02:02.180underage girls, then use those tapes to blackmail them. The FBI rated all of Epstein's properties
00:02:09.300in 2019 and have never to this day released any of the thousands of pieces of evidence that were
00:02:15.780retrieved. What are they waiting for? Or are they purposely protecting pedophiles? The FBI has been
00:02:23.560somewhat preoccupied since January 6th of 2021, going after everyone and anyone who was at the Capitol on
00:02:31.500January 6th. The third anniversary of January 6th just passed this weekend and apparently the DOJ is
00:02:39.000still hunting for new political hostages. The D.C. U.S. Attorney Matthew Graves in an anniversary press
00:02:46.260conference saying the DOJ is now going to target thousands of Americans who were around the Capitol
00:02:53.080on January 6th but didn't enter the building. And what happened inside of the building? An important
00:02:59.720note when it comes to our prosecutions about those who remained outside the building. We have used our
00:03:05.680prosecutorial discretion to primarily focus on those who entered the building or those who engaged in
00:03:12.280violent or corrupt conduct on Capitol grounds. But if a person no only entered the restricted area
00:03:18.740without authorization, they had already committed a federal crime. Make no mistake, thousands of people
00:03:26.400occupied an area that they were not authorized to be present in in the first place.
00:03:30.920So if you're still wondering why the Epstein documents weren't released, it's clearly because the FBI and DOJ
00:03:37.660would rather spend their time looking for freedom fighters and demonstrators than pedophiles.
00:03:43.680Rhino Mike Pence on CNN this week. Right away you know that's trouble. But you can't say he doesn't know his
00:03:50.400audience. He says he's happy that more than 1,200 Trump supporters have been politically persecuted.
00:03:57.660Pence also saying he believes FBI Director Wray whenever he says the FBI didn't contribute to the
00:04:05.440so-called insurrection. You know I've seen the director of the FBI repeatedly assure the American people that
00:04:13.180the FBI were not the instigators of the riot that occurred on January 6th. And frankly I'm very
00:04:20.300grateful for the efforts of the FBI to bring nearly a thousand people to justice who ransacked our
00:04:27.400Capitol and did violence against police officers that day. But you're right. We've been assured again
00:04:34.500and again that it was not the case. And I just must tell you having been there that day I mean to see
00:04:41.680people literally breaking windows ransacking the Capitol. It just infuriated me. I remember thinking
00:04:49.860you know not this. Not here. Not at the United States Capitol. And I believe everyone that conducted
00:04:57.300that that riot at the Capitol needs to be held to the fullest extent of the law. I'm pleased that many
00:05:02.620have. But I've never been given any information. I've heard the many repeated assurances from the FBI
00:05:10.120that they were not involved and I take them at their word. Pence obviously missing the numerous times
00:05:14.860that FBI Director Christopher Wray testified on Capitol Hill in which he said he can't confirm
00:05:20.520how many federal agents were there on January 6th. Former Attorney General William Barr seems to be
00:05:27.240changing his tune of late and it's for the better. Barr telling Fox this week that January 6th was not an
00:05:34.520insurrection and that the DOJ has way overstepped their boundaries with their January 6th persecutions.
00:05:41.760Like everything else the left does they did I think go too far. I think there were people involved
00:05:49.240in January 6th particularly the people who attacked the police and broke their way into the Capitol.
00:05:55.940There were people that should have been prosecuted but I think they cast their net far too broadly
00:06:01.120and have been hounding people that really you know just walked in to open doors in the Capitol and
00:06:08.740hung around. I you know I think they just took it too far. But that being said I don't minimize
00:06:16.400what happened up there. While I don't think it was an insurrection it clearly was a shameful episode
00:06:22.440and some of the people involved should be prosecuted. Where has William Barr been? Where was he when
00:06:28.280January 6th went down? He could have put this whole insurrection nonsense to rest in one statement.
00:06:34.140The 2024 election is fast approaching and former CIA analyst John Gentry says the intelligence community
00:06:41.700is sure to be active in this election as they were in the 2020 election shielding Biden and his family of
00:06:49.420crooks from almost everything. So what are we to do about it? Joining us today John Gentry. John thanks for
00:06:57.180being with us here on The Great America Show. I want to compliment you on your book entitled
00:07:01.920Neutering the CIA. Why U.S. Intelligence vs. Trump Has Long-Term Consequences. Well Neutering the CIA is
00:07:10.920the title. We recommend it to everybody highly and John I have to say first and foremost thanks for
00:07:16.320doing the book. The American people are desperately in need of all of the information that we can get
00:07:22.880about the intelligence community and the disinformation they're ginning up and their
00:07:27.900relationship to our government and the political system. Obama's plan as you point out to fundamentally
00:07:34.760transform America seems to lie at the very foundation of what has become the weaponization
00:07:41.300of the intelligence community and particularly the CIA. Is that a correct statement? I think it's a major
00:07:48.180part of it. Not the only part to be sure. There were some evolutionary changes occurring. Young people
00:07:55.640were coming into the IC, the intelligence community and the post 9-11 period. But President Obama made a
00:08:05.820big step in pushing the hiring of diverse people. He created in 2011 an executive order which created
00:08:21.780within the federal government agencies including in the IC diversity offices and he named senior officials
00:08:30.720within the intelligence community particularly James Clapper as a director of national intelligence
00:08:35.640and John Brennan the director of the CIA who pushed his agenda quite a bit further. And John Brennan I
00:08:44.300believe is the primary person responsible shall we say for the politicization that we've seen in recent years in the CIA.
00:08:55.560He pushed the president's agenda considerably and then went farther and importantly and we know this from his
00:09:05.640his own words he encouraged his people CIA people to be politically active. And we know that there was an upsurge in leaks after Donald Trump became a serious presidential contender and then president. And we know too that there were a number of people who were out of government, former intelligence people or formers as we know them.
00:09:34.040And the formers also were active. And some of them said in no uncertain terms that they were acting this way because of advice, advice and encouragement that they got from John Brennan.
00:09:46.620When we talk about the intelligence community, as you point out in your book, those formers take up a big space that most of people, most people I think would not even consider to be in the IC, but they obviously have great influence and roles to play.
00:10:04.720And you pointed out that almost, well, for the very first year that Obama was in office, he started this DEI, it was called that then, diversity, equity, inclusion.
00:10:17.620And that, for example, we're seeing a manifestation of the disaster that's awaiting, I think, much of corporate America right now in the Harvard conflict and controversy over their president, who was first accused of being a bigot and the secondly, a plagiarist.
00:10:35.540And now the DEI thing has exploded in academia, but it hasn't done so in government.
00:10:45.140It still is being pushed as hard today, if not harder than it was 10 years ago, isn't it?
00:10:52.640Oh, I think it's being pushed much harder now.
00:10:58.620He set up the diversity offices within the federal government as a whole, which became, in essence, the ideological as well as the human resources enforcement group within these organizations.
00:11:13.500The Trump administration basically ignored this issue.
00:11:16.720They did essentially nothing to reverse it.
00:11:19.720And when Joe Biden became president, he brought back the Obama policies and then pushed them considerably further.
00:11:30.420So my sources are telling me that the kinds of things that I was seeing at CIA in the second Obama term and during the Trump years is now becoming more common in agencies around the government,
00:11:46.060including in the uniformed military, which is unprecedented, unprecedented and and I think disastrous for the military.
00:11:55.500I don't even want to contemplate where that where that leads in terms of both the the military order, morale staffing and the success of recruiting, of course,
00:12:08.660which has become the failure of recruiting right now.
00:12:11.740People just don't want to join a woke organization.
00:12:14.400They want to join the United States military.
00:12:16.880And that seems to be just a shadow of a of an afterthought of what it once was.
00:12:23.300But staying with the CIA here for for some time, John Brennan, as you mentioned, the primary, if you will, the protagonist really within the the IC itself.
00:12:36.100He was motivated not simply by Obama's executive order, as you point out, he was already well on his way to driving that program in the CIA.
00:12:50.260And now is colluding, if I may use that expression with 50 others in by 2020, 50 others in signing a letter lying through their teeth that it was Russian disinformation.
00:13:07.080When one man, not generally considered to be part of the IC, the attorney general, Bill Barr, knew full well he was lying,
00:13:16.920even as he was debating Donald Trump in the final debate of 2020 about the validity of both the Hunter Biden laptop,
00:13:27.120but also the the ridiculous assertion that Trump was colluding with the Russians, which they knew very well he was not.
00:13:37.400Right. The collusion, the Russian collusion issue was was in the 2016-17 period.
00:13:46.320And as you know, special special counsel, Robert, Robert Mueller pretty much put that put that to bed.
00:13:54.660But you raise an important issue in the what I call a laptop 51 letter.
00:14:01.000Right. But in this case, you you had a situation I think we know now courtesy some some House hearings in March of 2023.
00:14:10.780Here you had a situation in which the the Hunter Biden laptop was was left, was looked at,
00:14:20.760was seen to contain information that was at least prospectively very damaging to the Biden family.
00:14:28.800The the FBI apparently looked at it, thought it was real, but didn't say anything.
00:14:35.340Right. The campaign, the Biden campaign did know that this was this was a prospective problem.
00:14:42.320And they encouraged then a couple of the formers, Michael Morrell, former deputy director at CIA and Mark Palomaropoulos,
00:14:53.020a senior retired operations officer. They they were then asked to help.
00:14:58.520And the way they helped was to write a short letter that that would be an open letter.
00:15:05.860The open letter form format was something that was used repeatedly during the Trump years.
00:15:12.460Letters would be signed. There would be a specific message associated with them.
00:15:17.360Usually they were published by Politico, the organization here in the in the Washington area.
00:15:23.000Well, in this case, the the the the effort was to make the letter, excuse me, make make the the laptop story,
00:15:34.900which is initially reported in the Washington, excuse me, in the New York Post, make it look like it was Russian disinformation and thereby appear to be a non a non issue.
00:15:49.180As you know, October surprises are things that presidential candidates do not like.
00:15:54.700Now, was this was this really a Russian disinformation operation?
00:16:02.360My understanding from one of the people who received a solicitation to sign this letter.
00:16:07.740told me that the original solicitation was not use your good intelligence judgment to make to make an assessment of this situation.
00:16:19.440Instead, the message was, please sign the letter because we need we need to.
00:16:26.280So it was from the very beginning, at least in this one case, it was it was a politically motivated use of intelligence expertise for blatant political purposes.
00:16:40.500Yeah. And Mike Morrell, former acting director of the CIA, deputy director as well,
00:16:48.820being very plain spoken and direct about it with those the signees that he solicited, saying it is specifically for the purpose of helping Joe Biden win the presidency of the United States.
00:17:02.340In this one case, anyway, I have information from one source only, but it was according to this source, it was very clear.
00:17:10.940In this instance, we've got Mike Morrell in his own words and and and that to me is is is a disgrace and no one has held him to account for it to this point.
00:17:22.140We are we are talking with John Gentry.
00:17:25.340He is the author of the very important book, Neutering the CIA.
00:17:30.160We're going to be talking with him next about what happens now.
00:17:35.640And we'll be right back after these quick words.
00:18:25.700It has demographic quotas and percentages that it has to meet in its makeup.
00:18:32.400I was stunned reading your book to find that more than half of the CIA employees are women, which is an extraordinary number, that there is an insistence upon racial quotas within the CIA.
00:18:47.420The DEI, that is the case, by the way, in human resources departments throughout corporate America now and all parts of the federal government.
00:18:57.520I noticed that there was no reference to how many conservatives and how many liberals they want to have on what quotas and what balance they want so that we look more like America, as you quote President Obama, having said.
00:19:10.460Well, looking like America means you hire and promote more people who are in the coalition of people who are favored.
00:19:23.660And what that means effectively at this point is people who are not male, Caucasian, heterosexual and healthy.
00:19:31.820Why would we not want some representation of what is the clear majority of the nation?
00:19:39.700And I'm being facetious as I say this, because it is so ludicrous on its face.
00:19:45.260But it is gospel to these true believers on the left.
00:19:50.080These these neo-Marxists who make up the leadership of the Democrat Party.
00:19:55.640Well, the assumption, the assertion is that European American men are oppressors, again, largely from a from a Marxian perspective, as you say.
00:20:08.240And so your your your diversity policy is to help redress this oppressive evil.
00:20:16.060So you're not interested in in hiring more people who are who are Caucasian men and certainly not conservative.
00:20:23.060And and and here we are in 2024 with the most important, I believe, and I said the same thing in 2020.
00:20:34.080I think existential now that this election be fair, it be free and free of interference, certainly from the very intelligence community that has no business doing anything in domestic politics.
00:20:49.260As you point out, time and time again, that it's honored in in violation constantly.
00:20:57.160The CIA seems to be principally a one of the two or three largest sources of disinformation campaigns against the American people.
00:21:12.180Well, I think I think you need you need some senior leadership here.
00:21:18.320And again, Mr. Trump did not do this in in in in 2017 to 21.
00:21:24.500So my personal hope is whoever is the next president will will address this.
00:21:29.560But a key point here is that it really is not formally the CIA that is doing this.
00:21:35.620So we had a long history and I won't even begin to get into it.
00:21:40.260But there were there were there were efforts in the 1960s and 70s to to have formal programs run by the director and so on that went after antiwar activists in the in the Vietnam War period.
00:21:57.600It was generally widely considered to be inappropriate.
00:22:00.860So so so the agency proper has not done domestic operations of this sort ever since.
00:22:08.580To my knowledge, it is, in fact, against the law and it's against the culture.
00:22:12.820But we have two major groups of people who are involved in this, who are active.
00:22:19.160Again, the formers, we've mentioned several of them here who are now who use their intelligence credentials, bolstered, shined up and so on by the by the the liberal media,
00:22:36.280who who are using the skills that CIA officers developed over the years in the information operations area to to to generate alterations in perceptions.
00:22:52.580And the second group is the form is the current employees who are leaking.
00:22:58.620So they're leaking purposefully incorrect information at times.
00:23:03.700They're doing what what's known as disinformation.
00:23:06.980And the effort here is to is to in in our contemporary case, damage political enemies, including Donald Trump.
00:23:19.660This is we're talking about the intelligence community sworn taking an oath to defend the Constitution, trampling it,
00:23:27.680actually trying to subvert a president to overthrow a president in the case of Donald Trump.
00:23:32.880We see an extension of that now simply because on the basis of their their sense of self-righteousness that they know better than does anyone else.
00:23:44.240Mayor mortals like the American people at the polls making a decision.
00:23:51.220This is this is risen to the level of a fifth column, in my opinion, within the United States, within our political system by groups of people who have no business interfering in domestic politics in any way.
00:24:05.640Well, I would certainly certainly agree with you there.
00:24:09.260And in fact, we have a number of the formers, the leakers are not talking this way to the public.
00:24:17.460It's either against the law, depending on what they're saying, or against policies.
00:24:21.300But people like John McLaughlin, for example, and any number of others, somewhat less articulately, have made that made the point that politicization of intelligence,
00:24:31.620the injection of politics into intelligence doing, even though they all recognize that this is bad,
00:24:37.060that there was such a such a horrid situation developing in 2016 and then and then present for four years that that intelligence people as good people needed to step forward and to warn the American people about the danger that was that was that was confronting them.
00:24:59.140So the danger, the danger that they had manufactured, they everything from the creation, the Steele dossier, everything to the allegations of collusion were all absolute fictions structured, manufactured by the intelligence community itself and its formers and assisters, enablers.
00:25:22.060Well, I think a Steele dossier, actually, so this was this was a set of small papers put together into a quote dossier done by Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer.
00:25:35.440He was actually hired by the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2016 to do to do as part of the opera opposition research effort.
00:25:44.540Yeah, that what what what many of the and so this is a legitimate issue to look at.
00:25:50.420And I so far as I can tell, we still don't know exactly what happened, what happened there.
00:25:56.060And we want to I'm sorry, we're going to have to take a quick break.
00:25:59.000If I may, John, we'll come right back.
00:26:24.360And, John, as we're listening to you, it's it's extraordinarily sobering and informative and and downright alarming to think about the power of the IC turned against the American people,
00:26:36.860trying to to determine the outcome of political choices, electoral choices.
00:26:42.360What are the implications of what the intelligence community, the CIA, for example, and prominently have become?
00:26:50.880Politicization, the injection of of of politics into intelligence activities is is is long and well known to be a problem for the intelligence business and for national security decision making.
00:27:05.980The first and most obvious problem here is that when when intelligence is seen as being something other than apolitical, not not not nonpartisan, but apolitical, its credibility is is tarnished.
00:27:27.940National leaders have many, many opportunities to gather information and insights from other places.
00:27:35.980And they are less likely to use intelligence as a result.
00:27:39.660So we know we know, I think, pretty clearly that intelligence, when it works, can help national decision making, can help make help help national decision makers make better decisions.
00:27:54.180So so in essence, political politicized intelligence damages national security decision making.
00:28:02.160And is there any chance this year, this election year, that the CIA is so now.
00:28:10.160So hubris that they would actually directly get involved in determining the vote, be putting forward programs specifically to determine the outcome, not just simply playing at the edge,
00:28:27.840a prominent play at the edge, like they did in 2020, that is with other intelligence agencies shutting down free speech, particularly of conservatives on national security grounds was the pretext.
00:28:43.580Well, I don't I don't I don't think I don't think I don't think I don't think that's that's an issue, but I do think trying to influence the the outcome is.
00:28:58.660And we had considerable evidence of that in both 2016 and 20.
00:29:42.320Yes, there is one report that was published in January of 2021, right at the end of the Trump administration, the the ODNI,
00:29:56.960the Office of the Director of National Intelligence Analytic Ombudsman,
00:30:00.400wrote a letter to the Senate Intelligence Committee in which he talked about a situation in which China analysts in the IC were reported to have withheld information from the White House
00:30:17.000on the grounds that this information would help the Trump administration in its China related policies.
00:30:25.520And since these analysts did not want to help the Trump administration, they withheld the information.
00:30:31.740Was that John Radcliffe is the DNI when he was a DNI at the time?
00:31:52.180And I encourage everybody listening to to get John's book, John Gentry.
00:31:56.760The book is neutering the CIA, an important read, more important in this election season than ever, ever before.
00:32:08.580We've had some tough elections, but I think this is going to be a beauty.
00:32:11.820And I would urge you to buy the book and read it carefully, because we are right now in a tsunami of disinformation campaigns emanating from not only the government, but other other agencies and institutions in Washington, D.C.
00:32:27.700and in other places like, well, New York, you name it.
00:32:32.740And we've got a lot of sources for disinformation and very, as I often say, of the Biden administration.
00:32:39.080We get three types of information, John, from the Biden administration.
00:32:43.260We get disinformation, misinformation and no information.
00:32:47.900And we appreciate you bringing all of this to our attention.