The FBI raid on the President's offices and his wife's closet in his Florida state Mar-A-Lago, means that nothing in this country will ever be the same again. Our guest today is the outstanding columnist for the New York Post, Miranda Devine. She is also author of the bestseller, Laptop From Hell.
00:08:18.440Yeah. And the two men have just been found guilty in that trial. Michigan Governor Gretchen's so-called
00:08:28.760kidnapping. A win for the prosecutors after the two other defendants were exonerated because
00:08:39.400because they were entrapped. What the difference is in those two cases, in those two instances,
00:08:45.560I don't know. But it's outrageous what the Justice Department has done. It's outrageous what the FBI
00:08:52.840did. They put, I mean, they were paying cash to their lead informant. It is just an agency that
00:09:01.080is utterly and completely corrupt and out of control. Would you agree with that?
00:09:06.840Absolutely. And look, the reason that they're stonewalling, there can only be one reason,
00:09:12.200they're trying to hide something. What are they trying to hide? Well, January 6, there's the mystery
00:09:18.200about the pipe bombs that were supposedly, you know, hidden at the DNC headquarters and the Republican
00:09:25.560headquarters. There's never been any news about who that person was. They have CCTV footage that could
00:09:34.440have DNA. You know, it's amazing that we've heard nothing for about that. And then the fact that they're
00:09:41.960there, that you have this, this guy, Stephen Dantuono, who ran the entrapment scheme in Michigan,
00:09:51.400then he's sent to DC. You know, there must have been an entrapment scheme on January 6. I mean,
00:10:00.600I don't know that there was. But if you just look at the personnel, you look at that's their MO,
00:10:06.760you look at the fact that on January 6, the Capitol Police were hopelessly outnumbered.
00:10:13.240Everybody knew that at that last rally of Donald Trump's, there would be a lot of people that we're
00:10:19.000talking about a million people. It wasn't that many, but that was the expectation. And so you had
00:10:25.560hundreds of thousands of people, you would think that you would have brought in reinforcements at
00:10:30.920the Capitol. And they didn't. And the reason they didn't was because Nancy Pelosi opposed it.
00:10:36.360And so did Muriel Bowser, who's the mayor of the district of DC. And in fact, there's a letter from
00:10:43.560her specifically rejecting and warning anybody from the Capitol Police or the Pentagon against deploying
00:10:55.080troops, you know, National Guard to try and keep the peace that day. Now, Donald Trump suggested it as
00:11:02.200well to his Pentagon people and everyone ignored him. And Capitol Police Chief Stephen Sund, who I have
00:11:10.200interviewed a number of times, really tried hard. He knew that January 6 was going to be a nightmare.
00:11:18.200And he knew that his people would be overwhelmed. And so he started asking days before for reinforcements.
00:11:27.240He asked the day before. He asked the day of about four times. And the request kept on going up to the
00:11:35.080Sergeant at Arms, who just kept on stonewalling. And the Sergeant at Arms for the House had to get
00:11:44.200permission from Nancy Pelosi and the other Sergeant at Arms for the Senate had to get permission from Mitch
00:11:50.680McConnell. And this just wasn't happening. So for whatever reason, Pelosi and McConnell decided,
00:12:00.040and apparently, Pelosi was pulling the strings here. And they just decided that there wasn't going to be
00:12:06.760any more troops because the optics would look bad. Because Pelosi had made such a stink about
00:12:14.200Donald Trump bringing in troops to clear out Lafayette Square. Remember the previous summer,
00:12:20.840when Antifa and BLM rioters basically were so violent and so threatening that the President himself,
00:12:29.880President Trump and his family had to be whisked into an underground bunker because the Secret Service
00:12:36.120feared for their safety. And the St John's historic church there was firebombed. And Nancy Pelosi thought
00:12:42.680that it was unreasonable to bring in troops, you know, Secret Service and park rangers and so on to
00:12:50.760clear out the square. So that's sort of the tragic prelude to the fact that the Capitol Police were
00:12:59.640underwhelmed. And then if we have, as it's pretty logical to suspect that the FBI, which has form on this,
00:13:09.080and very recently, with their little October surprise, pretending that, you know, Trump supporters,
00:13:14.920that hillbillies, conservatives, whatever you call them, Republicans, were threatening to
00:13:22.360to kidnap the Democratic governor of Detroit, of Michigan, right before the 2020 election.
00:13:32.440Well, that all fell in a heap. But we know the FBI has that MO. So and we know that there were
00:13:39.960suspicious people egging on the crowd. There's lots of video of them. We know that these pipe bombs
00:13:46.760just seem to be fizzle out, but they were planted at the right time to divert Capitol Police
00:13:55.000to those two locations and sorry, Washington DC police to those locations, right at the time
00:14:03.080that the Capitol was being breached by whoever was breaking windows. The vast majority of the Trump
00:14:08.600supporters who went into the Capitol are now charged with parading and picketing and trespass.
00:14:15.480They walked through open doors. And you can see them in the videos. They're walking down a red carpet.
00:14:22.600They're keeping to the correct side of the rope. They're just like tourists in there. They weren't
00:14:27.960violent. But many of these people, and whether violent and nonviolent, have been locked up in DC
00:14:35.480jails for months on end without trial. And we've had what's meant to happen.
00:14:41.160We have among those estimated, we don't have a number that's, but the estimates of about 850
00:14:49.000Americans charged, we have a number of them who've been in jail longer than Biden has been in the
00:14:56.840Oval Office without resolution, without trial, in some cases without complete charges.
00:15:06.120And some of them in solitary confinement. This is an outrage, and no one seems to have the will or the
00:15:15.320capacity to break through it. And the Republican Party, in my opinion, this is certainly a Marxist,
00:15:25.480dim plot on the part of the Democratic Party in the deep state. But the Republicans have had no answer
00:15:33.080whatsoever, or avenue to help it correct it or fix it. And I just, it's extremely frustrating for all of us.
00:15:43.000But imagine for these poor people and their families who are caught ensnared in this, this political
00:15:50.280persecution. Yes, and you know, many of them are military veterans, some with PTSD. Joseph McBride,
00:15:59.320who's a wonderful New York based lawyer who's, you know, he was a defense lawyer. He's a defense
00:16:07.400lawyer, but he was a public. He's the best. I mean, he's the best. He's the best public defender.
00:16:13.240And he believes in people's civil rights, whatever side of the spectrum they're on politically. And he's
00:16:21.080just filed a writ of habeas corpus for one of the pre trial detainees in this DC jail, saying that he has
00:16:31.720serious PTSD, and has been just treated with indifference and cruelty and has been tormented.
00:16:40.200And that's caused him irreparable harm. He's in solitary confinement, continually for months and months,
00:16:49.560and it's cruel and unusual punishment. And if it were happening in Russia, you know,
00:16:56.440Joe Biden and Amnesty International, everybody would be screaming blue murder about political
00:17:01.160prisoners. I really don't see how, you know, maybe this is hyperbole, but the way that Joe Biden is
00:17:09.080behaving towards his political opponents, his ideological opponents, and towards his biggest rival,
00:17:16.760and the former president, Donald Trump, how is that different from the way Vladimir Putin
00:17:22.680treats his political rivals? You know, he's locked up Navalny, the opposition leader in Russia,
00:17:29.720in jail on sort of bogus charges. This is, we know that Biden was, and the White House was involved
00:17:39.000in at the beginning of this criminal investigation into Donald Trump over these documents,
00:17:44.760these classified documents that culminated or didn't come. It's not really, it's really the
00:17:49.560beginning of their investigation, but that had this raid in its center at Mar-a-Lago. And the White
00:17:57.160House pretended that they knew nothing about it. But that's just sophistry. John Solomon from Just
00:18:03.960the News has produced, you know, a memo which shows that the White House was involved back in May.
00:18:11.320By the way, an absolute blockbuster development, breaking news. And you know what? I haven't seen
00:18:21.960the story on a single left-wing corporatist outlet in 24 hours. Have you?
00:18:29.320No, of course not. No. I mean, he broke it last night on Fox News and, and yeah, and it's on his website. But it's too,
00:18:39.640it's too outside the narrative because the, the, you know, the narrative is this, and Merrick Garland
00:18:45.480set it up. He waited for three days after the raid, which was unconscionable, to let speculation run riot.
00:18:53.800And then he came out and gave that short five minute press conference in which he said, yes,
00:18:59.400I signed the warrant. I'm not going to talk anymore. I'm not going to answer any questions. He should
00:19:05.400have stood up there and taken questions. He didn't have to talk about the investigation. He should have
00:19:11.160put some, some, you know, speculation to rest. And, and then,
00:19:17.000that was the least of his offenses. This attorney general is a hack. Think about this. Eric Holder
00:19:23.560admitted he was a wingman for the president of the United States. Donald Trump is excoriated
00:19:29.720because he wants to talk to his attorney general, William Barr, wants to understand what's going on.
00:19:36.520Joe Biden is ordering a raid on a former president who, from whom he has just lifted his executive
00:19:46.200privilege and, and, and, and launches 30, 40, whatever it is, dozens of FBI agents into that
00:19:53.320raid on Mar-a-Lago. I mean, these are the least of the offenses. Garland is a hack. This president is
00:20:00.280a crook. And I have to tell you, there's no question that the FBI is filled to the brim with corrupt agents
00:20:10.040and officials. It is a sickening moment. And the whistleblowers are apparently coming in by the
00:20:16.040dozens now to the House Judiciary Committee, to the Senate Judiciary Committee and telling, telling them
00:20:23.640that there is widespread corruption that permeates the entire field offices of the FBI.
00:20:30.040Yes. And certainly the Washington field office. And, uh, we know from Chuck Grasley that he's given
00:20:36.440us two names, one being a Brian Orson and FBI analyst, uh, and, uh, an agent called, um,
00:20:44.120T-Bolt, Timothy T-Bolt. And both of them have been involved in, uh, sort of, you'd call it anti-Trump
00:20:51.000activities. I mean, political activities, uh, suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop, uh, pretending that
00:20:57.800it's Russian disinformation, um, stymieing any investigation into it when they had that since December 2019.
00:21:05.080You know, Miranda, it's more than a political, uh, act here. It is, they shut down your newspaper.
00:21:15.160They clobbered the New York Post with the most important story of 2020. They went after the
00:21:23.320judiciary committees, the other committees, they do, they sent agents in to say it's Russian
00:21:29.240disinformation. They manufactured an agent's declaration. They went after big tech, social
00:21:35.560media, and shut down a story about presidential, presidential corruption, uh, in the form of,
00:21:43.400well, vice presidential corruption, uh, in the form of Biden and his, and his crackhead son
00:21:51.640taking millions, tens of millions of dollars from the Chinese, the Russians, Ukrainians, you name it.
00:21:57.560They were open for business and business was booming for the Biden crime family. I mean,
00:22:03.560how in the world are the American people to see this as anything else? I mean, and here we are,
00:22:10.120and the issue is, does, they're trying to make the issue, does, does Donald Trump have classified,
00:22:18.600uh, documents in his possession? What idiocy? And the New York Times, Bally, who's the story,
00:22:25.080is if that is relevant? Any president has classified information. Uh, and the issue really is if they're
00:22:31.800going to tell the story, a reasonable cub reporter would be asked by his or her editor, well, what are
00:22:37.880the other presidents, uh, former presidents have in their possession? But you don't see that part,
00:22:43.080that element of the story at all, do you? No, you don't, uh, you don't. And, and this is the way
00:22:49.240it works, that the media is hand in glove with, um, the DOJ, the FBI, the security apparatus, um,
00:22:57.400to promote their narratives, as well as the intelligence, um, agencies. And so you see,
00:23:04.920for instance, Merrick Garland at his press conference says, our filings will do the talking.
00:23:09.560Uh, and, you know, the next minute you've got the New York Times with leaks day after day,
00:23:15.400just like with the Russia collusion nonsense. Day after day, there are these, um, anonymous leaks
00:23:20.920from people who are, you know, familiar with the investigation, they say. And, uh, you know,
00:23:25.880it's nuclear secrets, it's Jared Kushner, it's, you name it. Just like with the Steele dossier and
00:23:32.600Michael Flynn and the Russians and all that garbage that, that crippled, uh,
00:23:38.920President Trump's presidency, basically. And, um, you know, this is all part of a pattern,
00:23:45.400though. We can't see these as separate. We had in August of 2020, before the presidential election,
00:23:53.240when we had Ron Grasley and, sorry, Ron Johnson and Chuck Grasley doing real yeoman's work, they were
00:23:59.960pretty much the only ones who were working on the Hunter Biden Burisma corruption angle and
00:24:07.320with Ukraine. And they were beavering away and they were subpoenaing people trying to, they were
00:24:13.160being stymied by their own side in their own committees. Republicans refused to go along with
00:24:20.120them. Uh, but they had managed to get Treasury Department documents and they put together a,
00:24:26.200a really good, uh, report in September of 2020. But before that, the FBI kept on interfering. And
00:24:35.720after Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff got together and started, um, making a noise and
00:24:42.680saying that, that they were, um, peddling Russian disinformation, the FBI got involved, uh, did the
00:24:49.240dirty work of the Democrats and started giving, um, Johnson and Grasley these fake defensive briefings.
00:24:57.240And Ron Johnson was inside one of these briefings, which he was ambushed with. And, um, he, he, a few
00:25:03.880minutes in, he realized that it was a trap. And he said, this has nothing to do with our investigation.
00:25:10.040And if I see anything about this briefing leaked to the press, I will know you are dirty.
00:25:15.640Sure enough, next minute it's in the New York times that they were having a defensive briefing
00:25:20.360from the FBI because they're peddling Russian disinformation. And you want to talk about, uh,
00:25:26.280methods, uh, and sources. I mean, Chuck Schumer revealed himself in that, that is his M O. Uh,
00:25:33.960that is his method of operation in every instance. That is the, the Chuck Schumer play. You sit down
00:25:40.520in the office with him and he hasn't, you know, chapter and verse for the, the media,
00:25:46.440the left wing media, uh, within at least the next day, no later.
00:25:51.160And Adam Schiff as well. And don't forget Adam Schiff, the biggest liar of the Russia collusion
00:25:56.840hoax, uh, and, and the biggest leaker. Uh, and then again, he did it again during the impeachment,
00:26:03.400the Ukrainian impeachment. I mean, this is an orchestrated campaign and it is aided and
00:26:11.240abetted by, um, you know, people who think of themselves as well-meaning because you have
00:26:17.640to understand themselves as well-meaning these, these liberals, because they have decided that
00:26:24.200Donald Trump is the second coming of Adolf Hitler. You really think they're, they think they're well-meaning?
00:26:30.280Absolutely. They think that they have to save democracy from Donald Trump because he is an
00:26:37.800existential threat to democracy. This is how, so let me ask you this and I understand, but I just,
00:26:45.400so that everybody can understand where you're coming from, because we're talking about an evil
00:26:51.240cabal of Marxist Dems who think they're saving democracy from the, uh, Donald Trump.
00:27:00.120Donald Trump. No, never, but, no, no. Let me ask you this. They're fooling.
00:27:03.960The question is, it's Trump derangement in the syndrome. It's manufactured by these Marxist Dems
00:27:10.120so that they can carry on their jihad against democracy, uh, and this, and this Republic,
00:27:19.080and, and all of these people who stand in the way. And most, especially the outsider,
00:27:24.280Donald Trump, who was fighting everything that they have gotten away with for decades.
00:27:30.620Exactly. That's exactly right. And the Dems always do this. They project onto their opponents exactly the crimes that they are committing.
00:27:40.020So they are actually the threat to democracy, but they have convinced their voters and, you know, the white moms out there in the suburbs, etc.
00:27:50.220You know, the New York Times and even people in the FBI who aren't really, you know, in on the gig, they're convinced also that Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler.
00:28:02.780And so anything is legitimate to stop him, because if you were back in history and you knew that what Adolf Hitler was going to do, of course, you would do the right thing.
00:28:13.160And we saw an insight into this mindset when Sam Harris, who's the sort of public intellectual, you know, podcast, New York Times, lovey, liberal atheist.
00:28:25.940He was in a podcast last week and he's very articulate and he's pretty honest and he just expressed with no shame exactly what the liberal mindset is towards Donald Trump, that he is so evil that anything is warranted to stop him,
00:28:43.240including burying the Hunter Biden laptop, including John Brennan and James Clapper and the rest of those dirty 51 former intelligence operatives who signed that letter straight after our story was first published in October of 2020 in the Post about Joe Biden's involvement in Hunter's influence peddling scheme around the world.
00:29:07.880The dirty 51 published the letter saying it was Russian disinformation and that gave Joe Biden his get out of jail free card and boy, did he use it.
00:29:19.300Yeah, he did. And, you know, when you talk about manufacturing this, they're manufacturing the Trump derangement syndrome and the accusations, the phony charges against, you know, Russia collusion, whatever.
00:29:33.300It's created by the Democrats for the consumption of the gullible fools who make up a large portion of the Democratic constituency.
00:29:46.380It is none of these people believe what they're doing is honest or correct or what they're saying about Trump.
00:29:53.820It's all manufactured. And, you know, for example, Maggie Haberman at the New York Times saying that there was an implicit threat, an implicit threat when the president protested and filed a lawsuit after the raid on Mar-a-Lago.
00:30:13.380I mean, think of the unimaginably faulty logic of that.
00:30:20.580He is threatening whom by filing a lawsuit after his offices have been raided by the FBI for crying out loud.
00:30:29.040What about why would Maggie Haberman in her pure heart and clear mind said, well, isn't this an explicit threat against the president of the United States and all of his supporters
00:30:39.520to send dozens of FBI agents to send dozens of FBI agents to raid the Mar-a-Lago offices?
00:30:45.580I mean, it's an asinine situation in which we find ourselves when one of the country's largest newspapers, I'll put it that way, the Times, puts up with that kind of reasoning and that kind of deceit.
00:31:01.040Well, it's so typical, isn't it? So the president Trump gets raided, his wife's bedroom is invaded, her closet is ransacked, and he's a former president, and this is all done in a very untoward fashion.
00:31:24.920It's really inflammatory. Of course, his supporters are angry. Of course they are. Of course he's angry.
00:31:31.980And it's not just Trump supporters. It's anybody with any common sense in this country.
00:31:37.660I mean, you even had Andrew Cuomo and Andrew Yang saying that this seemed to be overreach and that the FBI couldn't be allowed to get out of control like it is.
00:31:48.160And the Democrats and their propaganda media outlets, the so-called formerly prestige media like the New York Times, CNN, Washington Post, et cetera, they follow in behind and they start, therefore, demonising the victim.
00:32:07.940And it's very easy for them. And it's very easy for them to do that because they already have the template of Trump derangement syndrome.
00:32:15.160So now they say, well, Trump supporters are a threat. And sure enough, Christopher Wray, Merrick Garland, get on board, you know, the men and women of the FBI are wonderful, et cetera.
00:32:27.880Well, and, you know, conservatives and Republicans and Trump supporters are supporters of law and order and they're supporters of honest members of the FBI.
00:32:38.960Obviously, it wasn't Republicans out there wanting to defund the police and burning down police stations.
00:32:44.440That's obvious, but they're trying to flip the script on us because we're angry about an FBI cabal gone rogue.
00:32:53.840And that is not law and order. That is the opposite of law and order.
00:32:56.660That threatens law and order. That's something out of a third world country.
00:33:00.580We don't have political prisoners in this country. We do, but we shouldn't.
00:33:04.720And so for the FBI to then try and whitewash their botched raid by saying, oh, Trump supporters are violent.
00:33:17.100I mean, you know, we don't support violence, obviously.
00:33:21.700And most, almost entirely, conservatives are the least violent.
00:33:28.560But there is, of course, a fringe and and but where is that fringe?
00:33:34.980I mean, I hear things like that. Yeah.
00:33:36.820But seriously, where is that fringe? Well, I haven't seen it.
00:33:40.160We know in Michigan that fringe was constructed by the FBI for the purpose of framing and entrapping half a dozen people.
00:33:54.020To my knowledge, had never broken a law.
00:33:56.080Yeah, there was the guy in Ohio. So that gave them a pretext to continue on with this.
00:34:02.540But yeah, as usual, they're just monstering, demonizing and dehumanizing.
00:34:07.880But let's talk about that for a minute.
00:34:10.760We now know as a result of all of these whistleblowers that these FBI officers, by the way, have constructed.
00:34:18.620And I'm going to put some inference into what they have said.
00:34:22.020But beyond that, this is exactly what they said.
00:34:24.560They're looking at promotion if you're the special agent in charge based on the number of quote unquote terrorism cases, including domestic terrorism cases.
00:34:33.880And what has become routine and expected behavior is to create these cases so that you've got a rising number of domestic terrorism.
00:34:46.780By the way, there's a wonderful line, which is just pure bull.
00:34:52.620It is absolute fraud on the American people.
00:34:56.000It's a fraud on the taxpayer as the FBI is lying through their teeth to inflate their figures and the danger, as Christopher Wray would say, of domestic violence.
00:35:09.900Hell, we know parents are actually terrorists, too, because they're concerned about raising their voices in a school board meeting.
00:35:18.780Which, by the way, we do know the White House was coordinating through the Department of Education with the School Board Association to create this nonsense.
00:35:54.980And you were talking about this new slew of whistleblowers that have come forward.
00:35:59.720And this is another John Solomon, just the news story, where basically they're saying that their agents are being coerced by upper management to sign false affidavits, to inflate terrorism caseloads.
00:36:17.660And, you know, of course, these people are so corrupt and out of control.
00:36:22.760We heard during the Gretchen Whitmer case of an FBI informant in the same bedroom with an FBI agent, you know, we heard of another FBI agent involved in that, beat his wife, allegedly, blood everywhere in their bedroom after she objected to his forcing her to participate, allegedly, in a swingers party.
00:38:49.520And, look, the reason that I'm careful with my words is because I think it's important that we get this message across to people who haven't been red-pilled.
00:39:00.700You know, the evidence is overwhelming, and it needs to be marshaled in a calm way to present it to independent voters,
00:39:09.960to, you know, Democrats who haven't... aren't completely deranged and broken, so that they can see...