The Great America Show - BIDEN BROKE THE LAW WHEN HE STOLE OBAMA’S CLASSIFIED PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and before we get to the day's developments and our guests, you may remember that President Trump once asked that the Pulitzer Committee take back that Pulitzer they awarded the New York Times and the Washington Post for their reporting on Russiagate, or as President Trump styled it, the Russia hoax.

00:00:19.180 He also called out the two left-wing newspapers for publishing what he called fake news, and indeed, it was just that, and has since been substantiated as such.

00:00:30.680 And this week, in the midst of this widening Biden-classified document scandal, the Columbia Journalism Review published a crushing 18-month-long investigative report and analysis of big media's politically biased reporting on the Russia collusion story and their violation of journalistic standards throughout.

00:00:53.540 Legendary Washington Post journalist Bob Woodward declared the Steele dossier to be a, quote, garbage document way back in 2017, and Woodward warned Washington Post reporters working on the Russiagate stories, and they ignored him.

00:01:10.940 Of course, as I said, the Post and New York Times went on to win that shared Pulitzer for what turned out to be simply carrying the Marxist Dems narrative throughout their reporting.

00:01:21.300 And as I said, the Pulitzer Committee did not, has not, and likely will never request its return.

00:01:29.800 That's a shame.

00:01:31.260 Both newspapers have refused to return that Pulitzer.

00:01:34.800 None of the reporters have offered to do so, and the lasting message for journalists stands.

00:01:41.260 Fake news or not, you can win a Pulitzer for carrying the Marxist left's narrative.

00:01:47.100 True or false?

00:01:48.840 And that is also a shame.

00:01:51.700 Turning now to the day's developments here on The Great America Show, I'm Lou Dobbs, and the Daily Mail is reporting a Chinese spy balloon has been floating over Montana for a few days now.

00:02:05.820 President Biden apparently wanted to shoot it down, but all that toxic masculinity at the top of the Pentagon talked him out of it.

00:02:14.540 The generals were worried about littering in the Big Sky State, so the Chinese commies are still surveilling us. 0.98

00:02:23.560 Spy balloons.

00:02:25.080 Who knew?

00:02:26.140 We do know our FBI, though, don't we?

00:02:28.500 The FBI now wants to raid former Vice President Mike Pence's residence after he voluntarily turned in his stray classified documents.

00:02:39.200 And three years after Hunter Biden said adios to that laptop of his, the president's son from hell wants his daddy's Justice Department and all their friends in the FBI to go after Rudy Giuliani and Steve Bannon for talking about his long-lost laptop.

00:02:57.880 It gets better and better, folks, and we'll have it for you here today on The Great America Show.

00:03:04.780 You'll be pleased to know that AOC had a hissy fit after Republicans threw her Marxist dem pal, Ilhan Omar, off the Foreign Affairs Committee.

00:03:14.880 AOC, of course, called the GOP decision to throw her off the committee for her anti-Semitic remarks a, quote, targeting of women of color, end quote. 0.94

00:03:26.840 Omar is really just a woman of ignorance and a woman of hate, and I, for one, am thrilled the GOP refused to put up with her and her anti-Semitic, anti-American spewings.

00:03:37.780 Congressman James Comer and the Oversight Committee are targeting Marxist-dim eco-elite and Biden climate czar John Kerry. 0.97

00:03:47.340 They want to know more about what appear to be his secret high-level climate negotiations with the Chinese Communist Party.

00:03:55.260 Chairman Comer declared in a letter to Kerry that he's concerned about what appears to be Kerry's indifference to American national security and economic interests.

00:04:05.120 As we know, the FBI are charged up about the Biden classified document scandal.

00:04:11.260 They let Biden's personal attorneys go through his documents at the Penn Biden Center think tank before they could.

00:04:18.180 Same with the Biden residents in Wilmington.

00:04:21.260 But it appears, only appears, that the FBI got to the Biden vacation house in Rehoboth, Delaware, to search for more documents.

00:04:29.600 After all, it's been three months from the time the first Biden documents were found, allegedly, until the FBI could search the vacation home.

00:04:40.160 A lot of evidence could have been misplaced or lost or even destroyed in that time, right?

00:04:45.260 Well, our guest today is Mike Davis, and he was the first attorney to remind everyone that the President of the United States has absolute authority to declassify top-secret documents.

00:04:57.060 That was way back in August, when on the 8th of August, the FBI tactical team swooped into the presidential residence in Mar-a-Lago to search and seize classified documents in the president's home.

00:05:12.020 And with us now is Mike Davis, founder and director of the Article III Project and the Internet Accountability Project, fighting against the massive power of big tech.

00:05:22.160 Mike, thanks for being with us here.

00:05:23.760 Always great to have you with us.

00:05:25.140 Tell us what you think about this ever-expanding Biden scandal.

00:05:30.100 Well, we've talked about this several times, Lou.

00:05:33.000 Former presidents, when they leave the White House, have the absolute constitutional right as commander-in-chief to declassify anything they want for any reason they want.

00:05:43.320 They don't have to get anyone's permission to do it.

00:05:45.800 And they have the absolute right under the Presidential Records Act to take personal copies of their presidential records, classified or not.

00:05:53.900 Presidential records are any records created or received by the President or his White House staff.

00:06:00.880 So, when Trump took presidential records, classified presidential records to Mar-a-Lago, he was absolutely allowed to do that under the Constitution and under the Presidential Records Act.

00:06:12.300 Congress understood that former presidents would take classified records.

00:06:16.680 That's why Congress gives former presidents the office of the former president with federally funded staff, federally funded staff with security clearances, secure office space or SCIFs, and secret service protection for life.

00:06:32.620 Contrast that with former vice presidents, they don't get any of that.

00:06:36.080 They get secret service protection for up to six months, and that's it.

00:06:40.500 So, when President Trump took his classified presidential records to Mar-a-Lago, that was permitted.

00:06:46.740 They were heavily guarded.

00:06:48.140 When former Vice President Joe Biden stole Obama's classified presidential records and stole classified records when he was the Senate Foreign Relations Committee chairman, that was absolutely not permitted.

00:07:02.600 He did not have secure office space.

00:07:05.160 He did not have secret service protection.

00:07:06.800 There was a two-and-a-half-year gap from when he left, when he lost his secret service protection after six months after leaving office until he got secret service protection again as a major presidential candidate.

00:07:20.360 So, two-and-a-half-year gap, and this is not just some ticky-tacky violation where it was like, it's no excuse for Pence, but Pence probably, he's such a Boy Scout.

00:07:30.540 He probably had his lawyers go search all of his boxes of vice presidential papers after this story broke, and they came across these classified documents mixed in with his vice presidential papers, and he probably had no idea he had them.

00:07:46.140 It's still a problem that he has to deal with, but, you know, it's not like the Bidens where there is clear evidence by Miranda Devine in Laptop from Hell, her book, that Hunter Biden clearly used stolen classified intel on Ukraine for the Burisma deal so the Bidens can make millions of dollars.

00:08:07.260 Hunter Biden right now seems to be the most inoculated person in this COVID era.

00:08:14.340 He, I mean, he's been accused of everything.

00:08:18.040 Everyone knows he's guilty of various things, and yet it does not move law enforcement, it does not move the Justice Department or the FBI to in any way bring charges and bring him to justice, does it?

00:08:31.460 I know it's a separate issue, but at the same time, it's intertwined so remarkably with the documents issue and the national left-wing media that continues to conflate the circumstances of a former president with those of a former vice president.

00:08:50.700 The powers, authorities that the former president has and which a former vice president does not possess.

00:08:58.600 So it, as you've laid out, a vice president shouldn't have these documents at all.

00:09:04.640 So he, as you said it, stole them from Obama, but how in the world are these documents floating out the door to former vice presidents?

00:09:16.680 As of right now, we know of two.

00:09:20.120 Yeah, I mean, it's because they, you know, you have to look at the circumstances, where they had them and why they had them.

00:09:26.840 Biden had at least five sets of stolen classified records in at least three different personal locations.

00:09:35.600 His Penn Biden Center, which is his Chinese-funded fake professorship with the University of Pennsylvania, where the Chinese government paid tens of millions of dollars to fund this thing.

00:09:49.760 Some $70 million.

00:09:50.820 Yeah, he had, he had stolen classified records there in this abandoned office.

00:09:56.740 He had stolen classified records in his garage in boxes next to his Corvette.

00:10:02.180 And Biden admitted to Peter Doocy from Fox News that he knew he had classified documents there.

00:10:07.400 They were safe.

00:10:08.020 They were in his garage next to his Corvette.

00:10:10.020 And then he had stolen classified records in his personal study in his house in Wilmington.

00:10:16.420 And again, these records were not guarded by the Secret Service.

00:10:19.240 And you have to also look at, remember from Miranda Devine's book, Laptop from Hell, I should get royalties for as much as I'm plugging it.

00:10:26.340 I was going to ask you, I mean, are you doing a promotional tour here?

00:10:29.680 I am.

00:10:30.040 I mean, you got Peter Doocy in Fox News.

00:10:32.360 You got Miranda Devine at the New York Post.

00:10:35.480 All good people, but we appreciate it.

00:10:37.940 I hear you.

00:10:38.720 We're all a team here.

00:10:39.640 We're all a team here, Lou.

00:10:40.500 And so the, I mean, think about this.

00:10:43.040 Hunter Biden had a key made for the Biden family's Chinese agent to access one of these offices.

00:10:51.760 We have the email on that in that book, the book, Laptop from Hell.

00:10:55.140 So we have stolen classified records in many different unsecured locations.

00:11:02.340 We have clear evidence in that 22-point email that Hunter Biden wrote before he was able to join the Burisma Ukraine Energy Board about stolen classified records.

00:11:14.060 I mean, Hunter Biden all of a sudden became an expert in the geopolitics of Ukraine overnight.

00:11:20.100 You know, he put away his crack pipe and threw out his prostitute and read up on Ukraine one day and became an expert overnight, miraculously. 0.95

00:11:28.140 Or did he use stolen classified records that his dad stole from the Obama White House?

00:11:33.640 And then, you know, you have these, then you have unguarded records, stolen classified records, and there's clear evidence that it's being used to enrich the Biden family with millions of dollars.

00:11:45.900 And so, in all fairness here, I've just got to ask you, Mike, you keep saying he stole them, which obviously he did.

00:11:54.720 If they took them intentionally, I just really don't know how to deal with the issue that they got them out of, the skiff in which he was reading them, and for whatever reason.

00:12:09.400 But the same applies to former Vice President Mike Pence.

00:12:13.880 If Biden stole them, so did Pence, right?

00:12:18.560 Yeah, I mean, that's just it.

00:12:20.100 And look, if you have, it is a very serious crime.

00:12:25.740 It violates the Espionage Acts for people to have classified records outside of an authorized location.

00:12:33.700 The Biden Justice Department just prosecuted a woman in Hawaii.

00:12:38.940 She worked for the Pentagon, and she transported classified documents from her office in Hawaii to her temporary workspace in Asia.

00:12:51.060 And she didn't do it through a classified pouch like she was supposed to.

00:12:54.900 She just took it with her.

00:12:56.220 There was no evidence of misuse, no evidence that she was making money off of it, no evidence that she was selling it to China or any other country.

00:13:04.420 She got the Biden Justice Department had her thrown in prison for this. 1.00

00:13:08.880 And so it is very serious to have these classified records in an unsecured location.

00:13:15.480 And the one that's the most troubling to me is, look, I get when you're the president or the vice president, you're going to have military aides bring you classified materials to your home when Trump is in Mar-a-Lago, when Pence is in his home in Indiana or wherever his home is, or Biden when he's the president.

00:13:36.820 You have military aides take classified records, but they take back those classified records.

00:13:41.780 They don't keep them.

00:13:44.080 Well, I'm aware of that, and that's what I'm saying.

00:13:47.200 This had to be a conscious, intentional act on the part of two vice presidents to take those documents.

00:13:56.100 There is no other explanation that I can see as likely.

00:14:00.280 Can you?

00:14:01.560 Well, I guess we need to see.

00:14:03.700 I would say there's—

00:14:04.680 Well, of course we need to see.

00:14:06.040 I would make no excuse for Pence because if he took classified records, remember how sanctimonious he was about Trump lawfully having his presidential records in the office of former president at Mar-a-Lago.

00:14:18.500 Pence came out and made that sanctimonious statement that he would never do such a thing.

00:14:21.900 Well, he did.

00:14:23.200 So what are the circumstances?

00:14:24.780 Were they—was it his aides packing up his office when he was vice president, mixing in his vice presidential records with these classified records, putting in a box, shipping them into Indiana,

00:14:35.740 and they were never seen, never used until now?

00:14:38.320 That's still espionage.

00:14:40.040 That still violates the Espionage Act.

00:14:42.020 You can still get into very serious trouble for that.

00:14:44.960 But that is very different from having five sets of classified records in at least three different personal locations and evidence that you're illegally using this classified material to make millions of dollars from your family.

00:14:58.420 So there are different levels of crimes with the Espionage Act, but it's still a crime to violate the Espionage Act.

00:15:05.360 So here we are with two former vice presidents, yet it is a former president, Donald Trump, who the FBI assaulted his home at Mar-a-Lago, came in on a raid.

00:15:21.780 I mean, SWAT teams couldn't have done better, and seized, searched and seized his premises, where he had—I don't know if he had a SCIF at the time, but he did at one point.

00:15:36.380 I've heard that he—someone took it away from him.

00:15:39.720 I thought all presidents retained a SCIF, but apparently not.

00:15:44.940 But he had constant Secret Service protection around him.

00:15:50.180 So—and this was an ongoing dispute between the archives and President Trump.

00:15:56.140 And the Justice Department decided, by God, we'll show him, we'll settle this matter.

00:16:01.580 And they did.

00:16:03.620 But they haven't searched the premises of Barack Obama.

00:16:08.520 They haven't searched the premises of Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton.

00:16:12.120 They—the Bushes?

00:16:16.020 Are you kidding me?

00:16:17.140 That ranch is probably—I mean, those things are probably blowing around with the tumbleweeds out there, those pages of classified documents.

00:16:23.920 How do we know?

00:16:25.940 Well, yeah, I mean, that's—you're making a very good point, Lou.

00:16:28.620 And let's just look at the current—the current Justice Department's investigation of Joe Biden.

00:16:35.660 With, like you said, with President Trump, they sent in this unnecessary, unprecedented, and unlawful home raid, high-profile home raid on Trump for presidential records to which Trump was entitled to have, right?

00:16:51.460 So he's allowed to have these records under the Presidential Records Act.

00:16:54.760 With Biden, he clearly was not entitled to have these records as a former vice president, and especially not a former senator.

00:17:02.220 He had classified records.

00:17:03.480 It's what did the Biden Justice Department do?

00:17:05.820 What did Attorney General Merrick Garland do?

00:17:07.400 So, first of all, Biden says he immediately turned these over to the Justice Department.

00:17:11.200 That's not true.

00:17:12.820 Biden's team turned this over to their politically appointed head of the National Archives, and they were going to bury this.

00:17:18.720 The only reason we learned about this is the inspector general of the National Archives got wind of this and turned it over to the Biden Justice Department.

00:17:26.560 Well, somebody, Mike, called the CBS News and leaked the story.

00:17:34.120 Well, I think they leaked it to CBS News to get it to a favorable reporter because they knew the story was going to come out because the inspector general at the National Archives got a hold of this.

00:17:46.460 And so if you look at the story, the story defends Biden almost the entire time.

00:17:51.460 They broke the story but defended Biden and tried to talk about how this was no big deal and how Biden was trying to cooperate.

00:17:58.300 That's not true.

00:17:59.420 Biden kept this from the Justice Department, and then when the Justice Department found out because of the inspector general at the National Archives, Garland had a secret deal with Biden to keep this quiet, to politically cover this up.

00:18:13.580 And Garland worked with Biden, Biden's White House attorneys and Biden's personal attorneys, and they had this cozy deal where they're going to let Biden's personal attorneys and Biden's White House attorneys go do these searches, go taint these crime scenes, let Biden, that Joe and Jill Biden, whoever else, Hunter, whoever else, go to these crime scenes and taint them.

00:18:33.980 They covered this up for two months.

00:18:35.660 They let the Bidens do the first four searches of these documents and tell the fifth search that the FBI went in with Biden's lawyers and went in with Biden's personal lawyers and White House lawyers.

00:18:49.380 Contrast that.

00:18:50.200 They made Trump's lawyers stand out in 95 percent August humidity in Florida while they raided Mar-a-Lago.

00:18:58.700 They would not let them into the premises while they were there searching and seizing, right?

00:19:04.540 Correct.

00:19:05.100 Correct.

00:19:05.880 Completely different ballgame.

00:19:08.680 The Biden, the Attorney General Merrick Garland and the Biden Justice Department tried to cover this up, and they've had this cozy relationship for more than two months with Trump.

00:19:18.660 They sent in the cavalry.

00:19:20.000 They sent in the FBI immediately.

00:19:21.520 They made Trump's lawyers stand outside in 95 degree heat, 95 percent humidity, and they raided Trump's personal office, his home, Melania's lingerie drawer.

00:19:34.300 Or even teenage son, Barron's room.

00:19:37.320 Well, you know, to me, it's very simple.

00:19:42.200 Why in the world would there not be standing orders to the Secret Service protecting Mar-a-Lago, the premises there, the home of the president, and to be confronted by another agency who decided who had the greater authority?

00:20:00.120 And no one talks about this.

00:20:02.800 The Secret Service is there to protect the president of the United States and his property.

00:20:08.660 And the fact of the matter is they rolled over like cupcakes.

00:20:13.080 And there was no clash whatsoever between the agencies.

00:20:18.240 And the president, in point of fact, is not guarded if that is the way in which the Secret Service comports itself.

00:20:26.720 Secondly, the Secret Service is there acting as an adjunct to the FBI agents, and I'm sure DOJ lawyers accompanying them, to go through that property.

00:20:40.080 I mean, this is an outrage on so many levels that it's astonishing.

00:20:45.960 And those Secret Service agents had to know that this was coming.

00:20:49.020 I just found it despicable, frankly, that we're in this kind of situation, because this is nothing more than a thugocracy posing as a presidential administration.

00:21:02.700 This deep state and these Marxist Dems have got to be brought to heel, and I'll be doggoned if I know who's going to do it, because I can't find a countervailing influence to the awesome power of the Biden regime, the Marxist Dems' deep state, and their cooperative alliance.

00:21:22.700 It seems to me that it is absolutely all-powerful.

00:21:27.540 Your thoughts?

00:21:28.720 Yeah, Lou, and I would just say this.

00:21:31.360 Remember that Republicans won the House of Representatives on November 8th, and we had to hurry up and elect Speaker Kevin McCarthy as the Speaker so we didn't slow down the oversight agenda.

00:21:44.260 As you know, I was a vocal critic and opponent of McCarthy, but okay.

00:21:49.340 I opposed his speakership as well.

00:21:52.700 Yeah, and here we are, two and a half months after the election, where the hell's the oversight operation from the House Republicans?

00:22:00.680 Where is Jim Jordan and the House Judiciary Committee?

00:22:03.940 The House Judiciary Committee has oversight over the Justice Department.

00:22:08.800 Why aren't they issuing subpoenas?

00:22:11.120 Why don't they have Merrick Garland come in before the House Judiciary Committee, sit in that chair, and ask Merrick Garland why he has two different approaches here with Biden and Trump on classified documents?

00:22:24.700 Why did Garland, look, Garland's going to say that you can't interfere with our investigation.

00:22:30.320 That's true, but guess what?

00:22:31.980 Covering up for your boss is not a legitimate investigation.

00:22:35.780 That is a cover-up, right?

00:22:37.360 And so House Judiciary Republicans need to be grilling Attorney General Merrick Garland to ask him why he has been colluding with Biden and his White House lawyers and his personal lawyers to cover up these clear crimes, to allow the Bidens and his lawyers to taint these crime scenes.

00:22:56.060 And so why they haven't rated Biden's beach home, why they haven't rated his Senate records, why are they covering up for Biden?

00:23:07.740 I've got an answer for that.

00:23:08.920 You know, which one of the 25-year-old, rosy-cheeked kids do you want to have suddenly put a 38 special in his or her, you know, under their suit coat and march out there and confront them and say, we're here from the Oversight Committee or the Judiciary Committee, and by God, you're under investigation.

00:23:32.280 I mean, the reason is they don't have an enforcement authority.

00:23:36.180 Yeah, I mean, they can issue – I mean, I hear what you're saying.

00:23:42.040 They don't have an army.

00:23:42.880 I got that.

00:23:43.540 But they can issue a subpoena from the House Judiciary Committee and make Merrick Garland show up and answer the questions that they ask him.

00:23:52.600 And if he doesn't – if they don't – if he refuses to show up, hold him in contempt.

00:23:57.700 Well, you know, look, I've watched one cabinet officer happen to be another attorney general.

00:24:04.800 A fellow by the name of Eric Holder in the Obama administration.

00:24:08.760 They held him in contempt of Congress.

00:24:11.140 And you know what?

00:24:11.720 They might as well have given him a Father of the Month award because there was no distinction.

00:24:16.560 Nothing happened.

00:24:17.980 There was no penalty.

00:24:20.120 And we have to be realistic about this, Mike.

00:24:23.260 This House Committee, whether it's oversight or judiciary, simply can't act unless it is in conjunction with an executive law enforcement agency to carry out and enforce those subpoenas and the penalties for not so doing.

00:24:43.100 No, I understand what you're saying very much, Saw.

00:24:46.080 You can – I mean, they do have – you could – if the House Judiciary Committee can go to a court and enforce the subpoena, and you can have the House Sergeant-at-Arms go arrest people and bring them to the House of Representatives.

00:24:58.320 So there is an enforcement component, but I get your point.

00:25:01.840 But there has to be oversight.

00:25:03.800 There has to be oversight.

00:25:04.680 And that oversight has to be more than tweeting from the House Judiciary Republican Twitter account.

00:25:10.220 They have to do oversight.

00:25:11.860 They have to request documents, and they have to have oversight over the attorney general.

00:25:15.480 So, listen, I'm entirely sympathetic and absolutely shoulder-to-shoulder with you on the view they must do oversight.

00:25:23.760 And, by the way, shoulder-to-shoulder would also be James Comer and Jim Jordan.

00:25:29.920 They desperately want to do this.

00:25:32.660 But there is a reality, and I have to say – and I have to talk about a reservation here for a moment.

00:25:38.940 The fact is I've seen them on television a lot, but I also don't hear a – you know, I haven't even heard them talk about these whistleblowers.

00:25:48.180 There's been no recognition that I'm aware of on the part of Jordan or his committee or Comer and his committee that FBI whistleblowers have no protection under the Whistleblower Act.

00:25:59.760 The intelligence agencies don't have that kind of protection.

00:26:05.300 And it's really critically important to understand what's going on here.

00:26:09.300 And I'm sure they're quite aware of that, but it also creates great complexities and great care, I would think, on their part to preserve these – the well-being of these whistleblowers.

00:26:24.180 They've been retaliated against, fired.

00:26:27.420 They're – I mean, the list goes on.

00:26:31.100 They're being retaliated by the Merrick Garland Justice Department and the Chris Wray FBI already.

00:26:39.100 What can be done to protect them is the big issue here because, still, it's a matter of law and what they can get through the Congress.

00:26:47.700 We're at a point – and I think everybody has to really think about this – we're at a point where you can't bluster.

00:26:55.440 You can't say, by God, we're going to investigate every one of these SOBs. 0.77

00:27:00.760 We're going to bring them to justice, and they're going to ride into town, you know, with their back to the head of their horse.

00:27:09.120 It's just going to be – there's just a difficult way to find a path to justice in this because we know they're crooks.

00:27:18.820 We know they're politically corrupt, and I mean pervasively so, but we don't have a countervailing influence in law or in our government or the powers, the separation of powers that permits it.

00:27:36.760 So where do we find the countervailing influence to the awesome power of an alignment among corporatist America – they're actually corporatist globalists.

00:27:46.980 the corporate-owned media, the Marxist-dim political party, and the deep state working as one against the American people?

00:28:02.120 Yeah, I mean, those are very good questions.

00:28:04.880 As to your first point about whistleblowers, I strongly encourage whistleblowers to go to Senator Chuck Grassley's office.

00:28:11.680 He's my former boss.

00:28:13.500 He has been a champion for whistleblowers for his entire career in the United States Congress.

00:28:20.860 So he always protects whistleblowers.

00:28:23.520 He has a whole oversight team that deals with whistleblowers, so they should contact Chuck Grassley's office.

00:28:30.280 He knows how to handle them.

00:28:31.420 He knows how to protect them, and he knows how to get results with whistleblowers.

00:28:34.020 Are you suggesting that Jordan and Comer wouldn't have already talked with Johnson and with Grassley?

00:28:40.300 My impression is there's been very close interaction and cooperation between the Senate and the House on those issues.

00:28:49.600 I think that the Senate is – the Senator Grassley and Senator Johnson have been doing this for many, many, many years.

00:28:57.580 They know what they're doing, they're experienced, they're not – they don't have their training wheels on right now, and they know how to handle whistleblowers, and they know how to protect whistleblowers, and they've done it for their entire careers in Congress.

00:29:10.660 And so if I were a whistleblower, if I had – if I were a whistleblower at the FBI, I would absolutely call Chuck Grassley's office and no one else.

00:29:22.200 And so that's my advice to whistleblowers.

00:29:25.300 Go ahead.

00:29:26.360 So are you saying that Comer and Jordan and their staffs aren't prepared to handle the enormity of the circumstances that we face here?

00:29:38.040 I'm not seeing evidence that they're prepared for it.

00:29:41.560 Maybe they'll get up to speed.

00:29:43.160 I mean, where the hell are their subpoenas?

00:29:44.640 Where's their oversight?

00:29:46.080 Comer's doing a much, much better job than Jordan.

00:29:48.320 I have not seen anything out of Jordan.

00:29:50.360 Jordan's tweeting about, you know, Pete Buttigieg at the Department of Transportation.

00:29:55.620 Instead of the Attorney General Merrick Garland and the weaponized and politicized Justice Department.

00:30:01.240 So I don't have confidence in House Judiciary Republicans right now.

00:30:04.560 I hope that changes.

00:30:05.880 I think Comer's doing a much better job on the Oversight Committee.

00:30:09.180 But if I were a whistleblower at the FBI, my career's on the line.

00:30:12.120 I would call Chuck Grassley's office and no one else.

00:30:15.480 So that's the first point.

00:30:16.600 The second point about how do you rein in this monster, it's going to be very hard.

00:30:23.060 I do think in Trump's second term, I think he got burned so many times by so many hoaxes.

00:30:29.300 He got burned so many times by the deep state.

00:30:31.760 I think if Trump wins in 2024, he is really going to take a wrecking ball to the deep state because he learned his lesson from his first term.

00:30:41.400 And I think that's going to be important is Republicans, conservatives, right-thinking, independents, and even Democrats come together.

00:30:48.020 We need to elect President Trump in 2024 with a Republican House, Republican Senate, and we can finally dismantle the deep state.

00:30:57.140 We can finally take a wrecking ball to it, and that has to happen.

00:31:01.420 Our deep state, the FBI, the intel community is out of control.

00:31:05.500 It's been weaponized.

00:31:07.260 It's like you said, Lou, it's Marxism.

00:31:10.620 These deep state actors are Marxist, and they're anti-American, and they're trying to destroy our country from within.

00:31:18.580 They're subversive elements, and they need to be rooted out.

00:31:22.060 We're talking about an existential crisis.

00:31:25.000 There's no difference in this moment and six months before we're going into the midterms when we are assured we're going to have a red tsunami.

00:31:33.400 We didn't.

00:31:34.660 The Republicans are so out of control with reality.

00:31:39.320 Whatever you can say about the Marxist stems, which is plenty. 1.00

00:31:42.780 They are corrupt. 0.98

00:31:43.840 Their values are perverse. 0.99

00:31:46.060 They are a blight on the existence of this great republic.

00:31:51.240 But one thing they are is they're realistic.

00:31:53.320 They know what power they have.

00:31:55.300 They know what they can do, and they know how to use it.

00:31:58.400 Republicans right now are gasping like guppies heading for the surface of the little bowl.

00:32:05.940 They want to be fed, and they want to then retreat to one corner of that aquarium.

00:32:12.220 This is no aquarium, and we shouldn't be acting like guppies.

00:32:16.920 I mean, think about what we're doing here.

00:32:19.220 We're going to say, by God, we'll just wait until November of 2024.

00:32:25.400 There's no way in hell we make it, Mike.

00:32:28.200 Well, I mean, I have to be honest with my audience.

00:32:32.160 There is no way we make it.

00:32:33.960 I'm with you, Lou.

00:32:34.680 That's why it's so important to do aggressive oversight, make the political case, hold the FBI and the intel community accountable, beat the hell out of them politically with their oversight.

00:32:45.180 And then you can use that to make the political case in 2024 to do fundamental change at the FBI and the intel community, right?

00:32:54.320 We need to have a church commission now to point out to the American people what the problems are, why this is a serious threat to everyday Americans, and why we need to change it and then run on that, right? 0.79

00:33:06.380 Because if we try to pass legislation now, it's not going to get through the Democrat-controlled House, and it will get vetoed by the Democrat-controlled White House.

00:33:14.800 In order to make change, we have to win elections.

00:33:18.100 So there we are.

00:33:20.500 Let me turn to this as we wrap up here.

00:33:25.780 Adam Schiff on the intelligence community, vowing revenge because Kevin McCarthy had the courage to throw him the heck off of the intelligence committee.

00:33:37.060 I want to give the speaker credit, and I want to get your reaction because I think he stood up, did exactly the right thing.

00:33:44.880 You and I both opposed him, but I have to give the man credit for taking this step and doing exactly what he had said he would do.

00:33:52.680 Your thoughts?

00:33:53.640 I agree.

00:33:54.380 I have been one of Speaker Kevin McCarthy's loudest, most obnoxious critics for the last couple months, and I give him credit where credit is due.

00:34:03.620 I commend him for following through on his promise and throwing these Democrat dirtballs off the intel committee.

00:34:09.660 They have no business being on there.

00:34:11.580 They're compromised.

00:34:12.340 They have shown that they are with Schiff, that they're willing to politicize and misuse intelligence to go after Trump and their political enemies. 1.00

00:34:22.360 With Swalwell, he's proven that he's a complete moron who allowed himself to be honeypotted by a Chinese agent. 0.96

00:34:30.320 And so I commend the Speaker for throwing these people off the committee. 0.98

00:34:34.480 Look, I've said all along, I didn't want Kevin McCarthy a Speaker, but now that he's Speaker, he won the election, I want him to succeed.

00:34:41.820 I want him to be a conservative Speaker and deliver conservative results every day, and I will cheer him on every time he does this.

00:34:49.880 My problem with Kevin McCarthy and Jim Jordan, my biggest problem is they are big tech's biggest champions.

00:34:56.680 But I'll tell you, as someone who was one of the lonely founders of the conservative big tech fight, we gladly take converts.

00:35:05.060 The second that they want to cut bait with Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple and join the conservative big tech fight, I will be their loudest cheerleaders.

00:35:13.940 And you're the founder of what organization?

00:35:16.620 That is the Internet Accountability Project that does the big tech fight.

00:35:20.960 I see. You're not the only one who can promote.

00:35:23.460 That's right. Thank you. I appreciate the plug.

00:35:26.560 Well, let's talk about the big tech.

00:35:30.960 Google, the feds, and I'm talking about under the Biden regime, seem to be moving closer.

00:35:38.600 I didn't say faster, but closer to trying to break up Google.

00:35:44.300 Your thoughts?

00:35:45.440 I think it is fantastic, and I have said this, that Biden has done almost nothing right. 1.00

00:35:50.560 He has screwed up everything because he's a complete moron as president. 0.97

00:35:54.940 But the two things he has done right as president are appointing Jonathan Cantor and appointing Lena Kahn as his top two antitrust law enforcers. 0.99

00:36:04.920 Jonathan Cantor is the assistant attorney general, head of the antitrust division at the Justice Department.

00:36:12.000 Lena Kahn is the chair of the FTC.

00:36:14.340 And these two are using antitrust to break up corporate monopolies, particularly with big tech, and they deserve a lot of credit.

00:36:24.500 Jonathan Cantor filed this lawsuit, this antitrust lawsuit against Google.

00:36:28.980 It is a game changer.

00:36:30.740 He worked with eight states, including one of my former colleagues, Andrew Ferguson, who is now the solicitor general of the state of Virginia.

00:36:39.960 Between Cantor and Andrew Ferguson, they're the brains of this operation.

00:36:43.320 They're going after Google's advertising monopoly, their online advertising monopoly, and that is the lifeblood that feeds Google hundreds of millions of dollars that makes their profits, that allows them to do the bad things that Google does.

00:36:59.200 So if you drive a dagger through the heart of their online advertising monopoly, that's how you start to break up Google.

00:37:06.880 Well, if we break up Google, that's good, but while you're at it, do me a favor.

00:37:15.620 Break up their ability to influence elections so powerfully as they have done in the past, and not enough attention is given to that reality as well.

00:37:25.880 Well, I want to say again, I guess if I had to label myself, I would be a Theodore Roosevelt Republican, even a Teddy Roosevelt Republican.

00:37:38.640 I don't think that the Democrats are the problem here.

00:37:44.440 I think every time in the terms of economic concentration and in terms of political, awesome political power that they seek and possess now, the Republicans have made it all possible, not the Democrats.

00:37:58.460 So I think we have a better chance of this happening under, frankly, these Democrats who are leading that fight against big tech.

00:38:11.540 Your thoughts about whether the Republican Party is a bigger problem and succeeding in that effort?

00:38:18.200 I 100 percent agree with you that there is – look, Trump changed this in the Republican Party.

00:38:23.060 He brought economic populism to the Republican Party, which I think is so important.

00:38:26.820 When I started the Internet Accountability Project three years ago, I was about the only person out there, like a homeless man, screaming on the street corner, calling for big tech's breakup.

00:38:37.340 And here we are three years later, and it's about to happen.

00:38:40.400 And we have seen a political shift, a great political shift over the last three years, where antitrust skeptics like Senator Mike Lee are now commending the Biden Justice Department for bringing this antitrust lawsuit against Google.

00:38:56.820 The biggest champions – again, my biggest problem with Kevin McCarthy and Jim Jordan is they are cheerleaders for big tech.

00:39:04.320 They carry big tech's water, and it is a problem.

00:39:06.640 Republicans need to understand that these big corporations are no longer our allies.

00:39:13.360 They are our enemies.

00:39:14.400 They're becoming – they're big, powerful, woke, and they're easy – it's very easy for big government forces to collude with these big corporations to go after everyday Americans.

00:39:26.920 And we've seen that with the big tech, where they – where, you know, Tony Fauci and the COVIDians within the Biden – the COVID regime used big tech to censor, silence, de-platform, and cancel medical doctors, scientists.

00:39:44.120 Even Senator Rand Paul, who's a medical doctor, and a U.S. senator, over our opposition to these COVID measures.

00:39:53.520 These big corporations, particularly big tech, have too much power.

00:39:57.680 They have gatekeeping power over information and commerce, and we need to break them up.

00:40:02.240 Well, we are at that point of the show where I get to say to all our guests, everybody gets the last word on this show, our guests.

00:40:14.500 And if you will, Mike, it's been great talking with you.

00:40:17.080 I think we covered a lot of important ground.

00:40:20.020 You're concluding thoughts today.

00:40:22.100 I appreciate your having me on.

00:40:24.220 I think the key here is with this antitrust fight, it is really important for populist conservatives to work with these populist liberals.

00:40:34.760 We need to work together.

00:40:36.420 Our bigger enemy is Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple.

00:40:39.900 So the enemy of our enemy is our friend as it relates to antitrust.

00:40:43.140 We need to support the Biden Justice Department's antitrust efforts, Lena Khan's antitrust efforts at the FTC, and break up big tech. 0.99

00:40:51.540 Mike, thanks so much for being with us.

00:40:55.040 We appreciate it.

00:40:56.220 Mike Davis, great American.

00:40:58.100 With us next week will be Cash Patel, Dr. Robert Malone, Congressman Austin Scott, and Matt Palumbo, author of The Man Behind the Curtain, Inside the Secret Network of George Soros.

00:41:11.140 That's Monday.

00:41:12.200 Please join us.

00:41:13.040 Till then, have a great weekend.

00:41:15.100 God bless you, and God bless America.

The Great America Show - February 03, 2023

BIDEN BROKE THE LAW WHEN HE STOLE OBAMA’S CLASSIFIED PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS

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