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The Marxist Dems look to interfere in the 2024 election, a Supreme Court judge rejects their unprecedented challenge to keep Trump off the ballot in Minnesota and New Hampshire, a new poll shows Trump leading Biden among men of color, and more!
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to the Great America Show. Great to have you with us.
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The Marxist Dems looking to interfere in the 2024 presidential election dealt a major blow this
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week in Minnesota. A Supreme Court judge there has rejected the Marxist Dems' unprecedented
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14th Amendment insurrection challenge that would have kept Trump off the ballot in the state.
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Minnesota and New Hampshire both rejecting what are desperate lawsuits with no foundation in either
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fact or law. The Marxist Dems keep trying, though. The same bunch has lawsuits in courts in Michigan
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and Colorado. They, too, should be rejected. Trump at a rally this week in Hialeah, Florida, said ever
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since his 2016 candidacy, the Marxist Dems have put him, his family, and this country through hell with
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their abuses of power. But he said in the end, we will all win. Every day since our 2016 victory,
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that was some year, the sick political class we defeated has been trying to scratch and claw their
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way back into total control over our lives. They are working so hard. It's actually all they're good
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at. They're bad at policy. They're bad at everything. But they're only good at that. And they're really
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great at cheating in elections. But we're not going to let that happen. They've put you,
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me, my family, and our country through hell. But in the end, they will fail and we will win because
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we will never stop fighting to save the America we love.
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I believe Trump will prevail in 2024. And that means so will America. Trump's poll numbers show
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a commanding lead over all of his primary opponents and a three to four point lead over
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Biden and some national polls. A new poll from CNN shows Trump leading Biden among men of color.
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The poll shows President Trump getting almost 50 percent support from men of color, Biden getting
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just 46 percent. In the same poll, Trump is beating Biden with minority voters under 35 and beating Biden
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as well in the head to head general election matchup. Turning now to the Israel Hamas war,
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Joe Biden's CIA director Bill Burns in Israel meeting with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
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Burns has reportedly been urging Biden behind the scenes, of course, to force Israel to agree to a
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ceasefire with Hamas terrorists. Israel says there's no clear justification for a ceasefire.
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They fear it would only allow Hamas to regroup and to create more international pressure on Israel,
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to not resume the fight, and to save Hamas from sure destruction. Israel did, however,
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agree to temporary four-hour humanitarian pauses in North Gaza each day to allow hostages to evacuate.
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Joining us now is our great American foreign policy and national security panel, Gordon Chang and Tony
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Shafer. Great to have you with us. Let's start with the CIA director. It seems he is now a diplomat as
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well as CIA director. He's being dispatched to various hot spots, including, of course, Israel and
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environs. What do you make of a CIA director as a globe-trotting diplomat as well as a spook? Gordon?
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Certainly. And clearly, the Biden administration wants to ceasefire. That was the initial reaction
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in the first moments after the October 7th attacks. And then finally, they got their bearings and they
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understood that Israel had to destroy Hamas. So they pushed back from that. But what we have seen over
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the last three or four days is as Biden is losing support of Arab and Muslim Americans, you're now seeing
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a full press on a ceasefire, which is what they want. And I think that's the last thing the United
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States should be doing because this is not going to be solved as long as Hamas is in control of the
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Gaza Strip. And Tony, your thoughts? I agree with Gordon. I think that the way to sum up the Biden
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administration is they don't want to lose. They don't want to win. They don't know how to win,
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but they don't want to lose. So that's why you see this, I'd say, 90-degree shifts in policy
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overnight in some cases, where, yeah, you've got a Marine Corps three-star general advising the
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IDF on the ground regarding urban warfare. At the same time, you've got Burns, Blinken, and others
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behind the scenes trying to convince them to slow down or do the ceasefire. And Hamas is a cancer,
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and that cancer has had its message amplified by Iran and by others who are wanting to continue to
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weaken the United States role and hand in the Middle East. I think we are an indispensable partner. I
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think we've done a lot to help others work through things, especially with the Abraham Accords. But at
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this point, the Israelis took it on the chin on the 7th of October. They lost by proportion what would
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have been the equivalent of us losing 50,000 people on 9-11. That is to say if the populations were
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equivalent. And they have every right to go in there. And by the way, for those who are studying
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the actual battle, the Israelis are doing it masterfully. They've done a three-pronged approach
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to Gaza. They're doing it very meticulously. They're minimizing civilian casualties. So
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this is not the time for a ceasefire. This is not the time to get in their way to try to slow them down.
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Did any of us expect any different result though, really? The Israeli military has won more battles
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than the United States military over the course of the past 30 years.
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I just marvel at the affrontery, the arrogance of this administration and this military,
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this Pentagon to go in to tell the Israeli Defense Forces how to fight a war in the Middle East on that
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terrain, which is their terrain. Don't you find that astonishing? Gordon, Tony?
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Well, yeah, I certainly do. And it is arrogance. And as something that Tony referred to, and that is
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that the Biden administration really wants to manage the situation. And if you want to find a parallel,
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it's what Biden has tried to do in Ukraine as well. He's not looking for a victory. He's just
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trying to prevent the conflict from broadening out. And this is basically the approach of Jake Sullivan
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and Antony Blinken and the president himself. And, you know, it might sound responsible to people
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saying, oh, we can't have an escalation. But when we look at this way that this policy approach has
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been applied, not only just in this administration, but in previous ones as well, it has led to this
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disastrous situation in the world where we have not seen in our lifetimes such a rapid collapse of
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America's standing in the world and the quick dissolution of peace and stability and order around
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I was going to say that to add to Gordon's point, when you have people who are not first off, I don't
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think. Tony Blinken understands the Arabs. I don't think they understand how to talk to them. I think
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they have by trying to, quote unquote, manage things, they've made it far worse because what
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they do then is antagonize our allies and empower our enemies. The enemies become stronger. Our allies
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get upset. And so right now, and this is reflected domestically. I know I don't want to get the domestic
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stuff, but the folks who support Israelis' right to retaliate are upset with the Biden administration.
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Those pro-Palestinians are upset with the Biden administration. They've literally put themselves
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in a position to be as weak as possible and have as least possible leverage over the situation as can
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You know, and Tony's point about the Biden administration not understanding Arab states,
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if you talk to these countries in the Gulf, they are secretly rooting for Israel.
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Yes. No, they do not want Hamas to exist after this. And although they say things that are
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different in public, nonetheless, the private conversations in the capitals around the Gulf
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and in the region are basically, yes, Israel must win.
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Well, Israel must win. Israel will win. And I don't think there's ever been a question about that.
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That's the sort of the interesting thing to me is I follow the amplifiers in the national left-wing
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media. What do they choose to broadcast and to print? They're talking about the concern,
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the desultory effects of actually having to put weapons and munitions into Israel and how that's
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going to shortchange Ukraine and we won't be able to deal with a five-front war.
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Well, I just, I'll carry on with Gordon. What Gordon was saying, let him jump back in. There's a
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certain lack of understanding by just the way the universe works with this administration. It's not
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only the Arab states. It's about China. It's about every, you know, you literally have, in my judgment,
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Lou, the equivalent of a high school debating team who had been brought up on platitudes, who were fed
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and reinforced in their bad thinking by these mainstream media outlets. And it becomes a huge
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echo chamber. Now, Gordon, I know, goes to original sources. I do my best to go to original sources.
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If I say something publicly, I'd like to believe I can back it up by a source, either private or public,
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public and have and like to be reflective in the context. I say things. There's no such
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effort by the Biden administration. Jean-Luc Picard, Kareen, whatever her name is,
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will spout whatever the propaganda is of the day.
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Well, yeah. And then and then John Kirby. I know, John, John.
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John is the consummate snake oil salesman. I mean, you know,
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he would sell his mother to Hamas if he thought it would give him a better job at the White House.
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I'm sure he was an admiral in apparently was an admiral. I knew in the US Navy.
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We went around and around about the Bergdahl thing, if you recall, because I was you know,
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I got information he was going to be brought up on charges. And, you know, he called me into the
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Pentagon and, you know, we don't want to admit we're going to do this like, oh, OK, well, whatever.
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Anyway, but back to this issue with Gordon, you have now because of their inability to to separate
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what my friend Catherine Herridge calls happy talk from ground truth. You have the chaos that we now see.
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Yeah, we're talking with Tony Schaefer and Gordon Chang, and we're going to talk some more.
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And I can't wait to hear what they've got to say about the Biden administration and the Nobel
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Peace Prize because I see a big opportunity here for a man who can barely get across the stage.
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Doesn't everybody? We'll be right back. Stay with us.
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We're back with Tony Schaefer and Gordon Chang. I was just saying before the break,
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guys, you know, this is a real opportunity for Joe Biden, a man who can't get across the stage
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without help, can't even read a teleprompter, has a hard time expressing thoughts, whether his or
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anyone else's. What do you think, Gordon? Well, this would be reminiscent of Barack Obama's
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Nobel Peace Prize for basically being elected president of the United States. And, you know,
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I'm sure the people who hand out the prize would like to see Biden get another term.
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And it's not beyond the realm of the possibility that he would actually get it.
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And while we're talking about Nobel Peace Prices, if there were any justice in this world,
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President Trump should have gotten it for the Abraham Accords.
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Despite everybody's expectation, the president was able to stitch together important agreements
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that really at one time looked like they would make peace enduring in that region.
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So, you know, we'll just have to see. But, you know, I think the American public understands that
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Biden has presided over the collapse of the international system and that he's in large
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part responsible for it. So I don't think that a Nobel Peace Prize will help him in his election
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bid, because right now it doesn't look very good, as we've seen from the polls,
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and as we can just sense from our notion of what's right and what's wrong.
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somewhat skeptical of the president's immense diplomatic acumen and expertise.
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Every man, every president I've either worked for or have been associated with or known,
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other than Joe Biden, has sought to do something diplomatically that's noteworthy.
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Carter did something with Menachem Begin, I believe. As I recall, there was an effort to
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address the very issue we're talking about right now. Reagan and Gorbachev. Man, you know,
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Bud McFarlane, God rest his soul. Bud was a close friend and told me great stories. Ambassador
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Hank Cooper. I've heard some amazing stories about the diplomatic acumen of Reagan. Clinton.
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Clinton worked Oslo II, signed on the White House lawn. George Bush. They all have attempted to do
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things which are... Tony, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but think about this. How many Nobel Peace
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Prize applications and peace prizes have been awarded to American presidents for not achieving
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peace in the Middle East? Just on that one subject. I think that there should be a separate
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subcommittee to the Nobel Committee, and that is for American presidents interfering in the
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geopolitics of the Mideast region, and in particular, the Palestinian-Israel conflict. What do you think?
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Well, look, if they... Is that too cynical of me? No, well, it's the eye of the beholder,
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I suppose, Lou. I mean, look, I talked to Tony Zinni. General Zinni was commander of Central Command,
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and he was the guy that went in under Bush, 40, 43. And he was there based on the fact that he was a
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blue dog Democrat, he was not a Republican, and he was there under a Republican administration to try
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to sort things out. And he walked away completely frustrated. He believed that there was no path
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forward as long as the players on the left, the Hamas, and those guys were there. So the bottom
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line is negotiating with those folks who are basically bent and committed to the destruction
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of the very straight you're trying to help out is not a good idea, because it is, to your point,
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meddling then. It's simply a self-aggrandizement for purposes of trying to show that the United
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States has a role to play when actually I think it's probably best to not be in it. And that could be
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the case right now because there's really no role for the United States within the context of Hamas.
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Hamas needs to be eliminated. And why there would be interference in that objective
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on the part of the Israelis by the United States is beyond me. But there it is in the midst of a
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maelstrom, a tragedy visited upon the Israelis by the Hamas terrorist group. On October 7th, we have
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a president who is simultaneously moving two carrier groups into the eastern Mediterranean,
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and calling for a two-state solution and respecting the rights of Hamas. It's madness,
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a highly, highly mad version of madness for this administration to be talking like that. Don't
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you think, Gordon? Well, clearly, there's a sense when you think about it that the Biden administration
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doesn't understand the seriousness of the situation in the world today, which is the reason why they're
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trying to manage the Middle East. What we should be understanding is that the world has divided.
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On the other side is evil. It's Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, and that free societies like Israel
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and the United States are threatened, and that China and its friends are going to continue until they rule
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the world. Now, most Americans won't accept that characterization of what's going on. But I
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believe that as we see events unfold, especially starting with the catastrophic withdrawal from
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Afghanistan, that we start to understand the seriousness of this. And by the way, we Americans,
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we tend to look at things and say, oh, it's over on the other side of an ocean. But remember that China
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and Iran are ceding operatives into the United States, as we speak, across our southern border and
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through the Florida Keys. And these are individuals who probably will wage war on the United States when
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they get the signal to do so. You remember that lab in Reedley, California, the one that secret Chinese
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biological weapons facility had at least 20 pathogens, according to the official count,
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and almost a thousand mice that had been genetically engineered to spread disease.
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War is coming to American soil. And we Americans better understand that we're in this war already
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and that if we don't try to win it, we're going to lose our country.
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Well, it's easily lost with the fifth column with the dimensions and the power
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and the scope of the fifth column that right now is threatening the United States from within.
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The Marxist Dems control all of education. They control all of the federal government.
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The Marxist Dems control the Democrat Party. The Marxist Dems control the military.
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And those values have been transmitted and inculcated throughout the military.
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It's not this isn't just about being, you know, major or captain deep. This is pervasive throughout the
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military. So, you know, I never anticipated and built a military that would value who you sleep
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with and the skin color that you hold over your value of integrity and tactical skills. I mean, it's
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amazing what the priorities are right now and what has happened. It's not and Biden is getting
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weeping the benefit, weeping the wind of change, if you will, perhaps from multiple administrations,
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starting with the Clintons. The Clintons started this trend of politicizing the military and leaders.
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And they they it's it's become the policy of D. D. D. I. E. or whatever it is. D. E. I.
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It's going to D. I. E. if we don't get rid of D. E. I.
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D. I. diversity, equity, equity and inclusion. And so, look, I felt pretty included when I was being
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yelled at by drill sergeants back in 1981 because you were all green. And that was the idea we you.
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And so everything that was worked through the civil rights movement to make everybody equal to be.
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How do we roll this back, Tony? How do we roll it back?
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We're going to get a little more granular than that.
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We're going to take a quick break and we're going to be right back with Tony Schaefer and Gordon Chang.
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Stay with us. We're back with Tony Schaefer and Gordon Chang.
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And Tony, I rudely interrupted you for a break, but there it is.
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And I think everybody would love to hear what specifically and in granular terms can be done to rescue this military from its leadership.
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You have to go to centers of gravity and those centers of gravity are essentially three places in the military.
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The military, the the academies and the colleges above the academy.
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You have to take that back, Lou. You have to get the curriculum unhijacked.
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You fire the commandant and you have the commandant.
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You appoint a commandant who understands the value of merit over skin color and who you sleep with.
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And who makes those decision about who's the commandant?
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Well, whoever the academies, the leadership of the army and military of the army.
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You've got a joint chiefs that are a chairman of the joint chiefs advising the president.
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The joint chiefs themselves are all on the same page polemically in terms of values.
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Well, so the answer is you need to find generals who you trust to come back.
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Look, they brought back Pete Schoomaker from retirement to work to run the war after 9-11 because they didn't trust the generals then.
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Let me tell you, I hope I don't get in trouble because he's a great general.
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Joe Dunford, fighting Joe Dunford, did a study in the Marine Corps showing that women could not serve in equal positions as men.
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I mean, they still made him chairman, but Joe never lost sight of what was necessary.
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And he turned out to be Trump's favorite general because Joe was a general.
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That's why he's not out there, you know, in the news talking about all the nonsense.
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Here's the question, Joe Dunford or whomever, what's the last war he won?
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But how do we how do we actually sit here as intelligent, fairly knowledgeable, fairly intelligent?
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I'm including myself to bring that average down.
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I have to say to you, I don't understand how we can sit here and actually talk about the U.S. military as a fighting force that has the power that we have both invested in and which we have.
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We've been ripped off by the military industrial complex, by the generals, the generals, general and flag officers of the military.
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Look, they're flying around and G-550s and G-650s and having a grand old time.
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And nobody wants to speak honestly about the state of the military right now.
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And then, Lou, you need an Eisenhower who understands, you know, Eisenhower started out as a lieutenant colonel at the beginning of Second World War.
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We need Eisenhower so you can come through and change things.
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Well, Gordon, you have the deciding vote on how we fix this thing in the military in particular.
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That is that is the urgency of the situation involving China.
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We have a military that is planning for war in the 2030s and the 2040s and building superb weapons to do that,
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where I think that we need to be figuring out how we can get munitions to forces in the front line,
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harden our facilities, figure out what to do in the first half hour of a war.
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And we do not have a military that is actually focusing on that right now because they don't have a sense of urgency.
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Unfortunately, I also don't see a force that could motivate a change in the United States military.
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We've got Jake Sullivan, the national security advisor, days before October,
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Sabbath telling the Israelis we've got this thing under control.
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No, I mean, the military left to its own devices will worship mediocrity and do the very least possible
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because generals want to get officers get promoted by playing it safe.
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You know, I've had this conversation, Lou, in the private in the past.
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The military, for every Eisenhower, for every, who was it?
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You have 10 people who basically love the rubbles and flourishes of being a general officer.
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And they'll do, you know, they even have a finishing school now for these guys.
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Tony, isn't this true of every peacetime just before a war?
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Essentially, you've, you know, you've got the bureaucracy, which has grown and mushroomed and taken over the Pentagon.
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And then what happens in a war is that everybody panics and then returns to where they should have been in the first place.
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I mean, it's I think that there's a great exception to that, Gordon, and that would be World War Two.
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Not only did we have a president, a commander in chief who was correctly anticipating historic developments.
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We had one point four million men in uniform on Pearl Harbor Day, December 7th.
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They were drilling with broomsticks and two-by-fours, but they were drilling because this, the president of the United States, Franklin Roosevelt, understood what was happening.
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He already had his eye on George C. Marshall as the ultimate military leader, which he proved to be, and brilliantly so.
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And Marshall had his eye on Eisenhower from the very beginning.
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It was a remarkable period of time and remarkable prescience on the part of that.
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But you had a president with a triple-digit IQ who had men and women around him who were intelligent, engaged, and weren't there to make their fortune or to, you know, maybe I'll get a ticket on Air Force One.
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These people were patriots, and they were committed to not just the survival of the United States, but to the victory against the enemies, whether they be the Axis powers, the Nazis, the Japanese, you name it.
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They were going to die before American force as we put them into the field.
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I mean, FDR was a hero, and he did see it coming.
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Unfortunately, across the American political spectrum, and this is not just Biden and the Democrats, we have a political system that does not understand the urgency of the situation.
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And we have a military, as I mentioned, that does not understand that they could actually be at war tonight.
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They've got slogans like U.S. forces Korea, you know, fight tonight.
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But I don't think we've got a military that is actually prepared to do that.
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I think that they are going to be caught by surprise because we don't understand the Chinese political system.
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We don't understand the internal dynamics inside China that could actually get that country to lash out and take us by surprise.
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Isn't it interesting to think what dullards we are when there is the alternate prospect here, and that is that perhaps we're not that stupid, that really the solutions are looking straight at us.
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The problems are not so convoluted, complex, and removed that we can't reach out and solve them.
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We have a group of people who simply are not intellectually gifted to do the most basic requirements of leadership, which is to anticipate, to innovate, to adapt, respond, react.
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And that is, you know, that's the credo of every special operations force that we have.
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We need to promote those folks up, bring them onto boardrooms of corporations, put them everywhere we can.
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But this is a, there is such a lassitude, as you say, Gordon, amongst our civilian leadership.
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And let's be honest, Tony Blinken, Jake Sullivan, President Biden, go, I mean, really, Jennifer Granholm.
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And I mean, you're talking about people who are fraudulent in their capacity and their abilities.
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But we have Shetland ponies pulling, you know, a three-ton carriage.
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It is preposterous what our expectations are against what they should be.
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We're going to, you guys get the last word here.
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So to Gordon's point, Lou, Omar Bradley once said,
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amateurs talk strategy, professionals talk logistics.
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And Gordon's point is, you know, we have not been thinking through what would be necessary to respond rapidly.
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And I will say this to defend my brothers in uniform.
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But because of the malaise of the peacetime military, they've been suppressed.
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They've been stuck in jobs in, you know, Alaska or other places because they don't want people who are going to be hard-edged
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and think things through like you're talking about.
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The question becomes, Lou, can they come and rise to the top when it becomes necessary?
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And I think that time of necessity is coming quickly.
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The most important thing is leadership in the Oval Office.
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And we will not get very far with the current occupant because whatever reason he's being blackmailed by China,
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bought by China and Ukraine, or just totally misguided, as Robert Gates once said, we're just not going to get there.
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And hopefully we will have a president like a Reagan, like a George Washington, like an FDR,
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who understands the situation and who is willing to lead the United States and the international system
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to peace, stability, and victory over the forces of evil.
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And they're painting pro-Palestinian and Hamas slogans on the pillars of the gates to the White House.
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And demonstrating by the hundreds of thousands in our country right now.
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And I guess I can take solace in the beginning of knowledge is first a question.
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And I'm curious to find out which way we go here from here.
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Thank you, gentlemen, for offering your thoughts and your insight.
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Gordon Chang, Tony Schaefer, good to have you with us.
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Thanks, everybody, for being with us here today.
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Our guest tomorrow on The Great America Show, Congressman Eli Crane,
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on the congressional investigations of President Biden and the Biden crime family.
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The impeachment inquiry is obviously heating up.