The Great America Show - December 07, 2021


BIDEN FIATS CREATING SPY STATE？ TRUMP BASE GROWS!


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1 hour

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163.18213

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9,876

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518

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

17


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Transcript

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America podcast with Lou Dobbs,
00:00:04.200 always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.
00:00:09.140 And now, here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.
00:00:14.500 Welcome to the Great America show, and get ready to hang on tight because we have
00:00:18.900 Omicron lurking in 20 nations, encircling the United States, according to Dr. Fauci,
00:00:25.340 just looking for an opening. Fauci, by the way, quickly becoming a staple caricature for late
00:00:31.200 night comedians, and not embellishing in any way his record, of course, as a public health official.
00:00:39.580 Nothing funny about communist China, however. The Chinese flying missions by the dozens over
00:00:44.700 the Taiwan defense zone, sending more of their navy into the South China Sea. The Chinese military
00:00:50.420 threat in the region is now so pronounced that the admiral in charge of the U.S. Navy's
00:00:55.080 Pacific fleet has called for more U.S. aircraft carriers to be dispatched to the region in order
00:01:00.700 to at least match the force of the Chinese Navy. Here at home, the markets have been unusually
00:01:07.180 volatile, and the strength of the economy has made schizophrenics of many economists, some telling us
00:01:13.660 that hyperinflation is a near-term certainty and, of course, threat, preparing for higher interest rates,
00:01:21.060 and others saying the real economic fear is an economy that is now slowing, despite, of course,
00:01:27.260 massive evidence to the contrary. And then there is the Fed. But don't get me started about Jerome
00:01:34.960 Powell. All in a day's work for the dysfunctional Biden administration, misunderstood, we're told,
00:01:40.680 and certainly unpopular. And a truce between the Biden White House and the oligarchs of Silicon
00:01:47.440 Valley, big tech and social media has apparently been constructed. There have been no loud public
00:01:53.400 statements, of course, from the White House about the truce. But there's also been no serious step
00:01:58.640 taken to bring antitrust actions against those oligarchs, as the Biden campaign had once promised,
00:02:06.600 you remember. In fact, the new Biden Build Back Better plan is little more than a giveaway to those
00:02:13.320 oligarchs, delivering cheap foreign labor without limitation on green cards, importation of more
00:02:18.560 cheap foreign labor, a threat against this country's working men and women, their families, and our
00:02:24.520 middle class, of course. Again, the Democrats are taking up commitments, talking up commitments to
00:02:32.260 working Americans while delivering American jobs to cheap foreign workers. Joining us now on The Great
00:02:38.400 America Show is Senator Bill Hagerty. He's a Republican of Tennessee, a lifelong businessman,
00:02:44.560 entrepreneur, and financier. Senator Hagerty sits on important committees, including foreign relations,
00:02:51.780 rules, appropriations, and banking committees. The senator served as U.S. ambassador to Japan during the Trump
00:02:58.120 administration. And Senator, we are delighted to have you on the broadcast, the podcast, and The Great
00:03:05.880 America Show. Lou, as always, it's great to be with you. And thank you for your leadership. You've done so
00:03:11.800 much for our nation. Your voice is a clear bell ringing for truth and liberty in this country. So thank you for
00:03:18.640 what you do. Thank you, Senator. And I want to compliment you for taking it to Senator Bernie Sanders on the
00:03:26.700 issue of the outsourcing of American jobs, despite his record as calling for, you know, for help for the
00:03:38.700 American worker and the middle class families. He's right along with Joe Biden in the Build Back Better
00:03:47.140 plan to ship away more jobs and bring in more cheap foreign labor. And you're taking him to task.
00:03:55.540 My compliment. Exactly. Exactly, Lou. We've talked about this before, and I think it just shows the
00:04:02.300 hypocrisy of the situation. First, I can't believe the world that we're in today where Bernie Sanders is chairman of
00:04:08.800 the United States Senate's Budget Committee. But that's Biden's America for you. And the fact that Bernie has sold out
00:04:15.480 the American worker because big tech needed a corporate carve-out, something that's going to allow them to bring
00:04:21.800 unlimited foreign labor in here in this so-called Build Back Better bill, this reconciliation bill that
00:04:27.980 they're going to slam through with zero Republican votes. This is just a gift to big tech. And it shows
00:04:34.020 exactly where, you know, Bernie Sanders and the left wing of the Republican Party are in bed with
00:04:41.580 Silicon Valley and the big tech companies that are censoring America right and left.
00:04:47.420 It's stunning what we're witnessing. We've just watched Jack Dorsey resign his post as the CEO
00:04:54.360 of Twitter. The stock continues to plummet, and the social justice imperatives of the Twitter
00:05:02.500 management continue to rise to even more frenetic levels, not understanding or caring that they are
00:05:11.460 wasting billions in market cap, destroying a great product while also censoring conservatives and
00:05:23.620 being utterly one-sided in their, I'll put it this way, partisan outlook.
00:05:30.680 And indeed, it's amazing that they're willing to set aside, you know, the rights of shareholders,
00:05:37.680 their fiduciary duties. You've been in business for years and years, Lou, and we both know what
00:05:43.060 the actual duty of management and the board of directors is to the shareholders. They're setting
00:05:47.920 that aside to pursue an agenda that's entirely political in nature, and they're destroying
00:05:52.000 shareholder value in the process. You know, you were pointing out that we've had quite a
00:05:59.020 perturbation in the universe when Bernie Sanders is chairing the Senate Budget Committee.
00:06:05.240 Soleil Omarovo confirm, the threat of her being confirmed to be a controller of the currency,
00:06:13.560 a Soviet-educated, trained, if you will, Marxist, and they put her forward. At what point
00:06:22.860 is there any moderate in the Democratic Party that's going to say, you're out of your mind,
00:06:28.020 Mr. Biden, and really, this is a spectacle that you don't need?
00:06:32.380 Well, I think Omarovo may be the tipping point. I serve on the Senate Banking Committee. She came
00:06:39.360 before my committee before Thanksgiving. And I asked her a simple question, Lou, whether high gas
00:06:45.620 prices were good or bad for America. You go to my own state of Tennessee, I can tell you, you get a
00:06:51.040 very clear answer from folks who are on fixed incomes fighting to just make ends meet. She said,
00:06:57.160 well, that's a trick question. She couldn't answer the question. This is how out of touch
00:07:02.140 they are. And I think the trick is they actually want high gas prices because they want to be able
00:07:07.540 to more easily cost justify these investments in alternate fuels and energy sources that don't work
00:07:14.140 under normal market conditions. So they want to distort the market by driving up the cost of fossil
00:07:18.840 fuels in America, by damaging the pocketbook of every American here. It's a massive tax.
00:07:23.640 This inflation that they set off taxes everyone here in America. And it's hurting those on lower
00:07:29.820 middle incomes, fixed incomes more than anyone. They don't care. And she believes that you should
00:07:35.020 use banking regulations to basically shut down finance to the fossil fuel industry. She's even
00:07:41.160 caught on tape saying that we need to bankrupt these companies and we want to, quote, accomplish our
00:07:46.340 climate objectives. If you can imagine someone like this who will abuse the regulatory process for the
00:07:52.220 banking system to pick industry after industry that they decide is out of favor and just squeeze
00:07:57.600 off the investment so they die. This is what type of person the Biden administration has put forward.
00:08:02.560 And I have a very strong feeling that there are a number of Democrats on the other side
00:08:06.340 of that dais that I sit on that are going to say enough is enough here. They're not going to stand for
00:08:11.980 this. In some ways, to me, Senator, I'd like your perspective. It seems too late for them. They've
00:08:19.700 declared themselves to be what they are. She, for example, even it's stunning. What's to have federal
00:08:29.440 reserve accounts instead of banking accounts? Move people's checking accounts from the private sector
00:08:35.220 to the government, of course. Of course. It'd be like going to the DMV to handle your banking under
00:08:41.280 her vision of the world. Let's just let the government control it all. We know how efficient
00:08:45.720 the federal government is at managing anything. And the notion that they'd manage all of our banking
00:08:51.080 transactions, look, the goal is they want to be able to spy on all of us. They've revealed that with
00:08:56.400 the $600 limit. Whether it's $600 or $10,000, a person making minimum wage here in America is going to
00:09:03.460 have their banking account information turned over to the IRS for every transaction. They're trying
00:09:09.220 to find ways with this increase in the IRS audit budget. They want to increase the enforcement
00:09:14.620 auditor's budget tenfold to come after Americans. And that's not just this small group of people making
00:09:21.900 over $400,000. This is every American. They're waging war on America. And this is a person that they're
00:09:28.460 talking about, this Dr. Omarova, who wants to use the banking system as a tool to surveil and control
00:09:34.900 us. It's when the Internal Revenue Service went after conservative groups under the Obama
00:09:43.400 administration and got away with it effectively. Lois Lerner has yet to pay. Exactly. And for there not
00:09:51.620 to have been, during the Trump administration, a response. But of course, he was under attack
00:09:57.360 relentlessly from the left and the deep state and national left-wing media for four full years.
00:10:06.320 We're looking at a government that is now unlimited, it seems. All of these crises, so-called, and
00:10:15.720 some are indeed crises, including the virus. But to see each example of what has happened over the
00:10:23.660 course of the past 10 years, and the way in which government has been driven larger, and the prospects
00:10:29.680 now are that it will be exponentially so. As a result of this new build back better infrastructure,
00:10:39.520 $5 trillion added to what is now a $30 trillion national, but I mean, a national debt. Where does it
00:10:45.500 end, Senator? Well, I'll tell you where they wanted to end. I had Secretary Yellen, our Treasury
00:10:51.620 Secretary, in front of me yesterday, and I inquired of her. I'm back on the IRS again. I inquired of her
00:10:57.600 where we stood on the gross violation of public trust when the IRS, back in the first quarter of
00:11:05.220 this year, after the Biden administration came into the office, the IRS released private taxpayer
00:11:10.680 information to a group called ProPublica, so they could publish the size of the IRA accounts,
00:11:18.740 for example, of Peter Thiel. Why should you and I know what Peter Thiel's IRA account is worth?
00:11:23.500 They did it for their own political reasons, because they wanted to attack people. And I asked her
00:11:29.060 two months ago, did she think it was wrong? Should this be investigated? She agreed at that point in
00:11:34.100 time. So yesterday, I said, where are we? Have anybody, you know, who's been identified here? Who leaked it?
00:11:38.720 What are you doing about it? No answers. It's under investigation. I said, this is the ultimate in
00:11:45.240 the deep state right here. And you're here asking for a tenfold increase in the budget for this group
00:11:50.580 that you can't hold accountable. We shouldn't give a single penny to this group until you come forward
00:11:54.960 and let us know exactly who did this, how they're being punished, how they're going to be held to
00:11:59.040 account. No answer. No answer, Lou. Yeah. And they have, the Democrats have the support now
00:12:06.080 of corporate America, U.S. multinationals, Wall Street, you name it. Did you ever think,
00:12:13.180 Senator, and you're a man who's been in business your whole life, immensely successful,
00:12:21.140 did you ever think you would see Wall Street banks, commercial banks, finance, and big business
00:12:31.300 aligning with the Democratic Party as it goes even more Marxist? And I'm using that advisedly.
00:12:38.060 Their agenda now is a Marxist left agenda.
00:12:43.400 No, I could have never imagined it, Lou. I've been a businessman since the 1980s. I started out at
00:12:49.900 the Boston Consulting Group. I think learned from the best. These are not the principles
00:12:55.180 that I was taught. Corporations have a job that is to maximize shareholder value. That's been
00:13:03.080 contorted so significantly by noisy activist groups, by these proxy firms that are basically
00:13:10.200 an oligopoly. And they come in and they'll recommend to vote for or against management on
00:13:15.140 various things. There are only two firms that really control 90-plus percent of the proxy voting
00:13:20.100 here in America. Somebody should certainly look into that. And these activist investors that come
00:13:25.380 in and attack a company because they're trying to achieve some sort of social goal, having nothing
00:13:30.440 to do with shareholder value. This ESG investing, which seems to be popular here in America, but
00:13:36.020 they won't touch an investment if it has to do with something unpopular going on in China,
00:13:40.560 like slave labor, burning coal, that type of thing, will go silent on Chinese operations. But
00:13:48.800 they'll certainly attack U.S. companies and concerns that are doing this. So you've seen this
00:13:53.660 whole activist movement come into corporate America. And you've got CEOs that are under
00:13:59.320 quarterly pressure. And it's very difficult for them to, given the way their compensation is
00:14:03.960 structured, not to be sensitive to quarterly pressures. And the result is they're kowtowing to
00:14:09.200 this socialist agenda, and in many cases a Marxist agenda that is being pushed and popularized by a
00:14:16.260 very small, yet vocal group of people that want to use corporate America as a tool to accomplish
00:14:21.200 their social justice agenda.
00:14:23.220 This appears to be a coordinated, and I'm not going to get into conspiracy theories and suggestions, but
00:14:30.960 it does seem coordinated. This relationship between a group even like Black Lives Matter and the HR
00:14:40.280 departments of large, vast corporations in this country, as they are trying to appeal to whom?
00:14:50.120 They have a profit motive that's being well satisfied. I mean, we look at the S&P earnings over the course of the
00:14:56.020 last 20 years. It's been extraordinary. So what is the motivation to actually attack? I mean, the effect is to
00:15:08.080 attack groups, that is, those who are not beneficiaries of affirmative action, who are not beneficiaries
00:15:14.900 of what is now overt discrimination on the base of skin color. And your thoughts about what is the
00:15:24.540 motivation here for corporate America, and the shareholders who are supposedly the owners of these
00:15:31.180 corporations?
00:15:32.280 Well, I think we could go back to what happened in Georgia, you know, with Coca-Cola and Delta.
00:15:39.240 These are corporations that responded to the headlines that they wanted to be sensitive to
00:15:43.940 without actually reading the bills that were being proposed in Georgia, without actually understanding
00:15:48.960 what was happening. And in a knee-jerk fashion, they listened to the corporate marketing department or to,
00:15:54.100 you know, whatever department in the corporation that didn't do their homework
00:15:57.400 and, you know, took a very short-term perspective that I think in the long-term
00:16:02.260 they probably regret.
00:16:05.080 What we need to do is make certain that corporate America refocuses again on what their ultimate objective is.
00:16:11.740 And that is maximizing the benefit for their shareholders. Their shareholders, in turn,
00:16:16.620 can use the returns to decide what type of social goods they want to pursue.
00:16:19.800 But I don't think it's the role of corporate boards to be involved in this to the extent that they're being
00:16:25.700 pushed at this point in time. The pendulum has swung too far. If you think about it, our U.S. economy is
00:16:32.520 the bulwark of the world economy. It's a huge competitive advantage for America. We need to be supportive of that
00:16:39.000 and not being destructive of it from within.
00:16:41.780 You know, let me turn very quickly, if I may, to, as I mentioned, the Pacific Fleet Commander.
00:16:50.580 That admiral calling for more aircraft carriers in the Pacific. You were ambassador to Japan.
00:16:57.740 The former Prime Minister Abe today saying that the United States must defend Taiwan if the People's
00:17:06.000 Republic decides to invade, saying that there's really no geopolitical, real politic response other than that
00:17:15.140 for the United States. Your thoughts about the threats, the rising threats in the South China Sea in particular,
00:17:20.880 and Taiwan?
00:17:22.720 Well, I've been watching this very, very closely. As you know, I was U.S. ambassador to Japan at a tough time.
00:17:28.140 I came to that position in 2017 when Kim Jong-un had begun to launch intercontinental ballistic missiles over Japan.
00:17:33.520 It was critical then, and it remains so, that the United States abide by its security treaties with Japan
00:17:39.400 and that we continue to build a strong presence in that area. The world needs a strong America. I can't
00:17:45.520 emphasize that enough. And I think after the collapse of Afghanistan, a number of our adversaries are
00:17:52.140 really questioning this. Not only what's happening in the Taiwan Strait. You look at the buildup of
00:17:55.620 Russian troops on the Ukrainian border. You look at the way Iran is behaving right now. We're being
00:18:01.040 challenged on all fronts. Back to Taiwan, that situation, I think, has escalated tremendously
00:18:06.860 since the fall of Afghanistan. The Seventh Fleet is one of the most powerful tools that the United
00:18:12.740 States has in its arsenal. It's based there in Yokosuka, Japan. I traveled there very often,
00:18:18.160 had a very close relationship with the leadership there, and extraordinarily competent. But what we've
00:18:24.060 seen is China stepping up its activity in the East China Sea around the Senkaku Islands there with Japan.
00:18:29.520 We've seen it step up tremendously in the South China Sea, and you're aware, Lou, of those
00:18:33.580 artificial islands that they built, which are essentially military bases. Something that
00:18:37.540 concerns me greatly is that in a joint exercise, both Russia and China sailed through the strait that
00:18:44.400 separates Hokkaido, the northernmost island, with Honshu, the main island of Japan. That's a very narrow
00:18:50.820 strait, a very menacing posture that they're adopting. And I think China is going to test us at every
00:18:56.600 level. I understand what Prime Minister Abe is saying, and I've seen stronger words coming from
00:19:02.280 Japan. I've seen much stronger words coming from Australia. Frankly, I've seen the Biden
00:19:07.360 administration step up and engage more with the Indo-Pacific leaders, but it's got to be more
00:19:13.100 than words. That's what this commander is calling for. It's more than words. It's deeds. It's our physical
00:19:18.260 presence there. And when we look at the military budget that has been proposed by the Biden
00:19:23.080 administration, they've offered to double-digit increase almost every aspect of the U.S. budget,
00:19:28.820 particularly for domestic things. There are only two areas that they're talking about in real terms
00:19:32.700 after inflation cutting. That is homeland security, and guess what? The DOD. That sends a very strong
00:19:39.240 and weak message to our adversaries like China.
00:19:41.660 Well, as we're wrapping up here, it's our custom on this podcast to give you the last word. I do want
00:19:53.520 to get a sense, and I'm sure the audience does as well, what your thoughts are about what the
00:19:58.300 Republican Party can do to, first of all, make certain that Homeland Security and the Defense
00:20:06.000 Department are funded more than adequately, not cut, and what your outlook is for the next year or
00:20:14.660 two, including the midterm elections in next year? Well, the Republican Party is going to stand strong
00:20:21.640 for defense in this nation. I serve on the Appropriations Committee. My colleagues that
00:20:27.220 serve on the Armed Services Committee are fighting right now over the National Defense Authorization
00:20:31.800 Bill. It collapsed earlier. We're trying to revive it. This has gone far too long to get our national
00:20:39.940 defense authorization moving through, but Republicans are a very strong voice that we've got to increase
00:20:44.660 the budget well above what Biden is calling for, and we're still fighting that fight today, but I can
00:20:50.540 assure you every Republican is united and pushing in that direction. If I look forward to 2022, I think that
00:20:57.380 the message we got out of Virginia recently with the gubernatorial election bodes extremely
00:21:01.780 well for Republican chances, both in the House and the Senate. If you look at Biden's approval ratings,
00:21:07.480 they're in the tank. If you think about what Americans were talking about over the Thanksgiving
00:21:11.560 table, they are very unhappy with this administration, whether it's their handling of the economy,
00:21:16.860 the massive inflation that we've seen, the disgrace that occurred in Afghanistan that's embarrassed us
00:21:21.300 as a nation. If you look at their energy policies, starting from day one, tearing up the Keystone
00:21:26.920 pipeline deal, doing everything they can to drive our energy costs through the roof, make us less energy
00:21:33.380 independent and more vulnerable to nations like Russia and OPEC. And yes, if you're going to be buying more
00:21:39.160 windmills and turbines, you're more vulnerable to China, particularly if you're opening about getting
00:21:43.380 electronic vehicle batteries, electric vehicle batteries, you're going to become more and more vulnerable
00:21:48.540 to countries that don't have our best interests at heart. America sees this, and this is why Biden's numbers are in the
00:21:54.500 tank. This is why his vice president number is even lower, because she has been the czar of the most
00:22:01.620 incredible national security disaster I've seen in my lifetime, which is our southern border.
00:22:05.940 She's supposedly responsible for this. So they have shown themselves to be inept and competent,
00:22:10.840 and they've lost the trust of America. So I think 2022 looks great for Republicans.
00:22:15.960 Senator Bill Hagerty, thanks for being with us. I have to tell you, I'm delighted to be able to call you
00:22:23.420 Senator Hagerty, because I think you were one of the great assets for the Senate and for indeed the
00:22:31.500 country. Appreciate your time and look forward to talking to you again soon. Wish you all the very
00:22:36.640 best. Thanks for being with us. Thank you so much. Great to be with you. Take care. Senator Bill Hagerty,
00:22:42.460 a great American. We continue with the Great America Show in just one moment. Please stay with us.
00:22:50.460 President Biden still refuses to answer questions about the substance of that virtual summit meeting
00:22:56.600 he held with Xi Jinping in the middle of November. Remember, the Biden administration is the least
00:23:03.680 transparent since President Obama. That is the Obama-Biden administration, of course.
00:23:10.320 That lack of openness is contributing now to some of the lowest presidential and vice presidential
00:23:16.140 approval ratings in modern times. Joining us now is one of the country's foremost political posters,
00:23:24.040 strategic consultants, and keen political analyst, John McLaughlin. John, great to have you with us here
00:23:30.940 on the Great America Show. I want to start with, right now, this president, so unpopular,
00:23:37.320 a vice president, even more unpopular. Did you expect polling to turn this quickly on this
00:23:45.080 administration? No, but I expected it to happen. There was a point where, as you know, since I worked
00:23:52.780 for President Trump, and I was one of the advisors that was saying we were in a close election last
00:23:58.740 year, just like we were in 2016, but that we could win. You know, and it's very tough to lose an election
00:24:05.220 by literally 45,000 votes in three states out of 160 million, but that's what they counted.
00:24:12.300 And I met with him in January during impeachment, and we were at Mar-a-Lago, and myself, Brian Jack,
00:24:20.220 who is his White House political director, myself, and the president, to go over polls,
00:24:23.860 and his base was solidly intact. His base has always been intact. It's just a very powerful
00:24:32.180 political foundation. And, you know, although there were concerns with the impeachment,
00:24:39.200 because the Democrats were clearly, I mean, historically, they were, you know, to impeach a
00:24:44.600 private citizen at that point was really unusual, but that's how crazy and political the Democrats
00:24:50.800 have gotten. But on the other hand, I was saying to him, you have to sit back, and you have to allow
00:24:56.940 Joe Biden to fail. And Joe Biden will fail. And those of us who are old enough to remember,
00:25:03.140 when Jimmy Carter failed in 1976, I was a college student who volunteered for Reagan, and later on,
00:25:13.200 when I went to work for Arthur Finkelstein as a pollster, he was one of Reagan's pollsters,
00:25:16.880 and we did polling for the White House. And I said, you have to realize that as, as, as just like
00:25:23.460 Jimmy Carter failed, and people had buyer's remorse about Reagan, when, when, when basically, when Joe
00:25:31.140 Biden fails, they will have buyer's remorse about him. And, and I didn't think you, I mean, he's,
00:25:38.780 he's done in a matter of months what it took Jimmy Carter to do to four years in the United States.
00:25:43.820 So, so if there was an election today, Donald Trump would win by a landslide.
00:25:48.320 To that point, his base seems to me is represented with just his popularity. And, and the, the amount
00:25:58.940 of tension, attention given him, it seems to be intact. And when he holds one of his rallies,
00:26:04.600 there's great energy and enthusiasm. Is his base basically intact?
00:26:09.560 It's, it's, it's more than intact, intact. It's expanding right now. Because when we asked the
00:26:16.460 voters, basic, when we asked the voters, do you want to see, and this is, we, we have this online
00:26:21.140 on mclaughlinonline.com. We publish a monthly national survey of a thousand likely voters. And
00:26:26.760 when we asked him, do you want to see Donald Trump run for president again in 2024 among Republicans
00:26:31.440 and independents who would vote in a Republican primary, 71% of all those primary voters said yes.
00:26:38.140 And if Donald Trump were to run for president again in 2024, would you support or oppose him
00:26:43.300 for the Republican nomination? Support is 85 to 12, 66 is strongly support. So, and, and then when we put
00:26:52.400 him in a field of like 15 candidates, no one's close to him. He's at 55%. The next closest is, uh,
00:26:58.780 Ron DeSantis at 15. Everybody else is single digits. Mitt Romney, 2%. I mean, Liz Cheney at 2%.
00:27:05.280 I mean, Donald Trump right now dominates. Those are two of my very favorite people right there.
00:27:10.920 Exactly. That's why I mentioned him. And, and, but if Donald Trump decides to run,
00:27:16.720 he'll be the nominee. And what's even better for Donald Trump now, if he were to run against Joe Biden,
00:27:23.020 he would beat him 49 to 44 in the popular vote nationally. So, I mean, that's, and, and,
00:27:30.480 and it's really a function of when you look at Joe Biden's disapproval rating, I mean, I mean,
00:27:35.940 56% of all voters in this survey, and it's probably risen since then, uh, disapproved the Joe,
00:27:41.960 the job that Joe Biden is doing. Right. Uh, but Donald Trump in that comparison again, uh, I mean,
00:27:49.120 he wins among people in the suburbs, 49, 45, he picks up 42% of the Hispanic vote more than we got
00:27:56.700 November of 2020, uh, African-Americans, 14%. I mean, independence, we win 46, 40. Uh, so,
00:28:06.680 so if Donald Trump, and by the way, Kamala Harris, if anything, cause you realize about a majority of
00:28:12.260 voters don't think Joe Biden will serve as full term. They think that Kamala Harris will be president,
00:28:17.000 right. But Kamala Harris, if she becomes president, Trump beats her 50 to 42. And, and, uh, so it's,
00:28:25.960 it, it even gets worse for the Democrats because I mean, what, what Kamala Harris is for Joe Biden is
00:28:31.920 that's impeachment insurance or insurance against the 25th amendment because she's, she's, she's more
00:28:38.940 disliked than he is. She, she's got a 40 favorable and a 55 unfavorable rating. I mean, they have
00:28:44.020 gloriously failed America's got, I mean, this is unbelievable what they're doing to the country.
00:28:49.780 I wish the election was tomorrow because in that poll that I mentioned, 35%, only 35% of Americans
00:28:56.460 thought we're on the right track. 62% said we're on the wrong direct on the wrong track. And that's
00:29:01.640 that John's, uh, referring to is McLaughlin and associates, uh, uh, current opinion of the U S
00:29:08.240 economy. That survey, uh, I believe is the 16th of November. That's how recent it is, uh, saying now
00:29:15.280 that more people believe, uh, 55 to 38% of the country is in fact in recession of 62 to 35% believe
00:29:24.920 the country is going in the wrong direction. Uh, it's, it's, it's stunning stuff. And, uh,
00:29:32.580 unfortunately within those numbers as a, as a reading of our current, uh, current condition
00:29:40.040 in the markets, uh, our current condition in the economy as expressed, whether it be at higher
00:29:45.400 prices or whether it be in the lack of inventory of housing, uh, whether it be in, uh, confidence
00:29:51.660 in the future generally. Right. Yes, sir. And, and you know what I like you deal in substance,
00:29:59.200 you know, these business facts and you know, the reality of, of what's going on with the economy.
00:30:03.800 I, I, I say, I, because I deal in public opinion polling, I deal in substance abuse,
00:30:08.340 but here the, uh, the voters decide what's really happening. And when you, when, when you think about
00:30:16.600 it, public opinion will determine where the markets go and that kind of pessimism on the economy. When
00:30:22.220 they, when they, when they believe two to one, that the economy's headed in the, in the, in the wrong
00:30:26.880 direction. When you think about it a few months ago, they thought the country was on the right
00:30:31.800 track. I mean, Donald Trump had left them with a legacy of vaccines and a legacy of an expanding
00:30:37.900 economy where people were being rehired. The, the, the Trump Kudlow Mnuchin, uh, V shape
00:30:46.160 recession, uh, had happened where basically we bounced out of a self-imposed recession during COVID
00:30:52.980 during the shutdown and the economy was reopening. We had historic vaccines to, to, to cure this and
00:31:00.300 treatments to cure, uh, this pandemic. And so Biden was coming in when people said we're back on the
00:31:07.580 right track and the economy's getting better, not worse. And in a matter of months, he's turned it
00:31:13.280 around two to one wrong track, two to run one. The, uh, the economy's getting worse. And even though
00:31:18.880 that people are working, inflation is killing them. I mean, we're doing focus groups for Newt
00:31:24.520 Gingrich for, uh, his Gingrich 360. And people are saying that they can't afford the price of gas.
00:31:31.420 It's sticker shock when they go to the supermarket. So the working class voters that Trump built as a
00:31:37.420 base for the Republican party has expanded now to more of the middle class and the suburbs, et cetera.
00:31:43.220 And, um, you've got people who are independents and moderates who didn't vote for us, uh, with, uh,
00:31:50.180 you know, the last election who are now saying that they, that they wish they had voted for Donald
00:31:55.520 Trump and the job rating. If you, if they voted for Joe Biden, that survey I mentioned, 51% told us
00:32:01.460 they voted for Joe Biden in 2020, 21% of them now disapprove of Biden, only 76% approve. So,
00:32:09.120 you know, we're living it and we feel it, uh, we sense it and smell it. Uh, you know, when we're at
00:32:15.640 the grocery store, whether we're, uh, uh, you know, out to eat, uh, wherever we may be, uh, in public
00:32:21.960 and to it, there's a different field. Uh, I don't think it rises to the level of a malaise, uh, but it's,
00:32:30.860 you know, it certainly, it seems like a precondition there, uh, that is, it's disturbing. But when you think
00:32:38.480 about, and I, and I want to ask you about these factors that also contribute to the public
00:32:43.880 confidence, whether it be the disaster in Afghanistan, a president who wobbles as he
00:32:49.720 enters a room. And, uh, if he successfully navigates, uh, without assistance, gets out of the room,
00:32:56.140 uh, stumbles through his teleprompter performances, uh, that all weighs on voters, Americans, and,
00:33:05.140 and, and the public around the globe right now, we look like a laughingstock. We were watching the
00:33:10.860 Chinese send hypersonic missiles around the earth, miss a target by 25 miles. And our, our military
00:33:19.140 leaders can't even spell hypersonic in many cases. That's how far behind we are in that race, uh, for
00:33:26.160 advanced weaponry. Uh, how much of a role does that play and what should we expect going forward?
00:33:32.400 Well, it's, it's a big problem because in the November survey, we asked the question from what
00:33:39.080 you've seen so far, how worried are you about the future of America with Joe Biden as president? And
00:33:44.200 59% said worried. And when we asked them, should he go for a cognitive test and release it to the
00:33:50.160 public? 59% said yes. Wow. And, and the majority thinks he's incompetent. And to your point about
00:33:56.860 Afghanistan, which, which in many ways with the economy going in the wrong direction and them
00:34:02.060 spending too much, people don't want to build back better. They think it's causing inflation.
00:34:06.160 They, they, they think they're wasting money. But in, in, uh, September, when we asked, um,
00:34:12.460 you know, would you agree with the statement that Joe Biden surrendered Afghanistan to the same
00:34:17.440 terrorists that attacked us on nine 11, 58% of all Americans said yes. So, so we've got a
00:34:24.140 combination of things, whether it's the crisis at the border, whether it's foreign policy and security,
00:34:29.900 whether it's the economy, Americans have lost confidence in the president and in the Democrats
00:34:34.900 and their policies. And I was abroad. I do work in Hungary for the prime minister, uh, of Hungary,
00:34:40.940 Viktor Orban. And I was, and I, in the beginning of November, I was over there and I was meeting with
00:34:46.040 the prime minister. I worked in his last campaign in 2018 and, uh, European leaders, not just prime
00:34:52.800 minister Orban, but other leaders that I was spoken to were at Glasgow. And they were surprised that
00:34:57.460 they were not able to interact with Joe Biden. Joe Biden came, he fell asleep. He gave a speech
00:35:02.300 from a teleprompter, but there was no interaction between president Biden and, and the heads of these
00:35:07.820 European states who basically had come because he asked them to come Russia and China didn't go
00:35:13.880 and they see a weak, uh, president and they missed Donald Trump. I mean, they, they, you know,
00:35:21.260 the European media didn't like Donald Trump, but the European leaders appreciated what Donald Trump
00:35:26.860 meant in terms of America being strong again. And you look, what's going on in Ukraine right now,
00:35:32.580 where, uh, you know, I mean, okay. Is Ukraine the next Afghanistan? Because when Obama was president,
00:35:40.660 he sent them blankets when the Russians invaded, uh, when president Trump was there, he sent them
00:35:46.880 weapons. And, uh, you know, so you've got, I mean, it's not a good time for the United States of
00:35:53.160 America, not just at home, but also abroad. The audience of this podcast, uh, John are keenly
00:36:00.340 aware of what you're talking about in the context, because we're reporting, uh, over a hundred thousand
00:36:06.520 Russian troops on their, uh, Western border, the Eastern border of Ukraine. President Zelensky,
00:36:13.260 is saying without any hesitation, uh, that, uh, Putin's Russia is plotting against him, uh, whether
00:36:23.220 it be to carry out a coup or an invasion. Uh, and we know that the United States, uh, has a significant
00:36:31.300 role here. And, uh, unfortunately, uh, NATO seems to, to be comprised of orphans because so little,
00:36:39.920 uh, money is being spent as the president, as president Trump said at the time, uh, to build
00:36:46.060 up the weaponry and fully pay their way in NATO. Uh, they'd look, uh, not only less armed than they
00:36:53.260 should be, uh, and prepared to defend, uh, Eastern Europe, but, uh, you know, weak and in some cases
00:37:02.580 enfeebled, uh, an inviting target for Vladimir Putin. Your thoughts? Absolutely. And in fact,
00:37:09.500 the energy, when you look at the energy issues, I mean, Americans are certainly upset about what
00:37:14.080 we're paying. Uh, you know, when Donald Trump left off, it was $2 a gallon. Now it's, uh, uh,
00:37:19.760 you know, four or $5 in many places and you got home heating costs going up, but for Europeans,
00:37:25.980 it's a national security issue because our friend Larry Kudlow often says Russia is basically a gas
00:37:32.440 station masquerading as a country. And what they do is he forgot one little element. Uh, and that is,
00:37:40.760 uh, a superior force in point of fact, in terms of nuclear warheads. Uh, you know, I, I've heard
00:37:46.880 that comment made by lots of people. Uh, and the fact of the matter is, I think of it as naive and,
00:37:52.460 and frankly, downright ignorant. Well, Vladimir Putin is leading the second leading, uh, nuclear power
00:38:00.720 in the world and to underestimate him, I think is a damn fool's course. Yeah, no, I would, I would
00:38:06.980 agree with that. However, the power of Russia on Europe and the rest of the world is energy related.
00:38:12.960 So when Joe Biden kills, you know, Keystone XL pipeline, weakens the, you know, value of dollars.
00:38:19.000 So the price of oil goes up, cartels, um, you know, uh, uh, oil and gas exploration. When he does
00:38:26.480 that, the price of price of, uh, oil around the world, the market is a, it's an international
00:38:32.840 market. It goes up and that helps Putin and it helps him fund his military. It helps him fund
00:38:37.760 that nuclear arsenal that he has. And it, and it, and you've got Europe where, okay, Poland is doubling
00:38:44.300 the size of their, their own forces. And you've got other leaders who have basically increased their
00:38:49.720 military standing, but, um, it's a serious threat. And then, you know, you look at the, you know,
00:38:55.940 with China, China's, I mean, you know, Joe Biden's policies where he's basically, uh, um, forcing
00:39:03.940 us into electric cars that are subsidized by his green new deal. Um, China's going to control
00:39:09.920 the batteries. They're going to control the production on that. So it's, it's, uh, uh, it's,
00:39:15.220 it's a, it's a, to the rest of the world, the United States looks weak at a time when we
00:39:19.840 can least afford it. Yeah. And you know what you're, you're, you're saying and millions
00:39:25.840 of people agree with you is that president Trump would have been a far superior choice,
00:39:31.600 uh, for both the security of the nation, uh, for the prosperity of the, uh, all of us, uh,
00:39:38.100 and this great economy, uh, instead, uh, we have Joe Biden and we have the prospect of 2024
00:39:48.840 for the return of Donald Trump. How likely, uh, as, uh, an insider is it in your judgment
00:39:57.120 that president Trump will indeed, uh, run for office for reelection in 2024?
00:40:04.060 Well, I, I mean, right now the polls say that the American public wants them. We asked a question
00:40:09.520 in September where when Trump was president, the border was secure. Uh, crime was low,
00:40:15.520 relatively low before the, uh, uh, tragedy with, uh, uh, George Floyd, et cetera, but crime
00:40:21.600 was relatively low. Uh, you had, uh, uh, the economy was, was rebounding and coming back.
00:40:27.200 Millions of jobs were being created. Gas prices were, were stable. And six out of 10 Americans
00:40:32.480 agreed with that, that Donald Trump was the better president, 60%. And, and so, so if president
00:40:40.880 Trump sees those kinds of numbers and the Democrats keep doubling down on, uh, uh, on what's, um,
00:40:48.080 on what's happening and, and trying to reverse his policies and taking the country in the wrong
00:40:52.020 direction, I can see, I mean, I've known Donald Trump for years. He ran because he thought America
00:40:58.140 was headed on the wrong track and he wanted to turn things around. He will do so again. If he, if,
00:41:03.900 uh, he will do so again, if that's the situation they're in, but right now he's focused on winning
00:41:08.800 back the house and the Senate and checkmating, uh, uh, you know, president Biden and the Democrats
00:41:15.560 and, uh, trying to get us back in the right direction. So, uh, so it's a long time for now,
00:41:21.520 but right now the environment is such that if, if the Democrats keep doubling down on the wrong
00:41:26.460 policies, they're going to make Donald Trump the next president. Well, and there are a lot of people
00:41:31.320 delighted to hear your, your analysis. I will tell you, I I've said about Donald Trump,
00:41:36.520 I don't know whether he'll run for reelection, but I do know, uh, that this man for all that he
00:41:44.280 went through in that four years, who impeachments, not one, two impeachments, both of them, absolute
00:41:52.000 farces, uh, because of the collective ignorance of the democratic leadership that finance, uh, the,
00:41:59.680 the hoax of a, of Russian collusion and perpetrated on the American people for four years, uh, all
00:42:07.100 courtesy of Hillary Clinton, the democratic national committee. Uh, I think the American people now see
00:42:14.660 what happened. I think that that has been one of the advantages, at least of the passing of time
00:42:19.460 is that there is a clear eye view on the part of the American people. Most will vote. I think would
00:42:26.540 vote for Donald Trump just because he deserves their vote for what he did and for what was done
00:42:32.240 to him. Your thoughts. Absolutely. You're right on that. And, and that's where my original point
00:42:38.740 was, we have to, sadly, we had to give Biden time to fail. And they, they've done that, you know,
00:42:46.100 sadly for the country, they've done that in a big way. And, uh, you know, the president, he will,
00:42:52.080 he will do what he, he, he will do what it takes to turn the United States around president Trump. I
00:42:56.480 mean, and, uh, you know, I don't know when the Democrats are going to get the message, but they,
00:43:01.720 but they got some of the message last November, uh, and where there were elections in, in, uh,
00:43:07.860 Virginia and in New York and other places, municipal places. Uh, but then they're going to see,
00:43:14.360 they're going to see, uh, uh, they're going to see a big difference in, in, uh, in this November,
00:43:19.940 November of 2022, they're going to see a big difference where the Republicans can take the
00:43:24.800 Senate and the Republicans can take the house. And right now the polls that we have, have the
00:43:29.920 Republicans up in the generic ballot decisively for Congress. Well, let me ask you in that regard,
00:43:36.120 because there has been some, I think seismic shifts here politically. People talk about the
00:43:42.960 Democratic coalition, but there is also, I think on both sides of this, there've been seismic shifts
00:43:51.360 in particular in the democratic party. There appears to be, uh, the Hispanic voter is no longer
00:43:59.080 being looked at as monolithic. Uh, and they are indeed expressing themselves as you would expect
00:44:04.400 any, uh, citizen in this country to be making up their own minds about who they're going to align
00:44:10.200 with. I'm interested to hear your judgment about that. I'm also interested to hear your judgment
00:44:15.000 about this realignment with corporate American, which they are lining up, uh, with the, the Marxist
00:44:22.420 left in point of fact, whether it's, uh, black lives matter or whether it's Antifa or radical,
00:44:28.960 uh, uh, Marxist thought within the democratic party about, uh, you know, critical race theory,
00:44:35.980 uh, about turning over HR departments, uh, to, you know, to this, uh, social justice, uh, imperative
00:44:44.980 within the, uh, radical democratic party, your thoughts. Well, in the first, we just did a survey
00:44:51.220 and again, it's posted on our website. We did a survey that was posted last week among Hispanic voters,
00:44:56.360 except for California. Uh, we, we helped California out so that we could look at more states that are more,
00:45:03.500 um, more likely to be won by president Trump or the Republicans or conservatives.
00:45:09.000 And it was a thousand likely Hispanic voters. And we have a Spanish speaking polling company
00:45:13.220 opinions, Latinas that we pulled for for years. We called the 2004 race exactly for Bush correctly,
00:45:18.960 uh, 44% of the Hispanic vote, but also in this survey, it was John Jordan and Dick Morris,
00:45:26.420 um, did the analysis in the survey. And, uh, what we found is that, that basically, uh, Donald Trump
00:45:33.120 has continued to grow in his share among Latino voters and 16, he had 26% of the Hispanics 2020
00:45:38.460 at 34 in this poll, he had 38%. And, uh, uh, and they're disappointed in Biden, 52% basically
00:45:46.700 we're saying that they were disappointed in Biden. You've got 49% saying the country's on the wrong
00:45:51.860 track. And again, these are, by the way, a lot of the Latino voters in the country, um, they come
00:45:58.060 from countries that were socialist. So, you know, they, they, they, they came to America for freedom
00:46:05.100 and whether it's Cuba or Mexico or Nicaragua or Venezuela, they, Columbia, they know what's the
00:46:12.200 danger of socialists are. And you've got the Democrats pushing this big government socialism on them,
00:46:17.840 which is why part of the reason why that president Trump was able to win Florida so decisively. I mean,
00:46:23.920 he, uh, the, the, uh, the Cuban American vote, uh, in Florida was higher for president Bush,
00:46:31.480 uh, president Trump, pardon me, then, uh, uh, then it was, you know, among the Anglo voters. So, uh,
00:46:39.120 so it's the potential here to gain even more because, uh, of a values connection, uh,
00:46:47.840 that conservatives and president Trump have with Hispanic voters that basically, uh, the Democrats
00:46:53.520 are, are spouting policies and an ideology that's antithesis to them. And very quickly,
00:47:00.020 the African American vote, uh, the number's not as good as, uh, obviously the president wanted, but,
00:47:07.680 uh, significantly better than previous, uh, Republican candidates. Does he have an opportunity,
00:47:13.960 uh, should he decide to run in 2024 among African Americans that will be significant?
00:47:20.140 Yes, absolutely. Because you realize the Democrats strategy is to carry 90% or 95% of the, of the
00:47:28.240 African American vote. And when you break into double digits, like president Trump last time had 12% of
00:47:34.540 the African American vote and two to one, it was African American men. And they tended to be younger,
00:47:40.960 college educated and, and more geared towards being entrepreneurs. Right. And, uh, uh, that was
00:47:47.620 true in 2016. It was true in 2020, but now it can expand even more. So, so if you get, uh, you know,
00:47:54.780 you're going to see more African American Republicans running like president Trump is supporting
00:47:58.560 Hershel Walker for Senate in Georgia and Georgia, I used to work for governor deal and everybody thought
00:48:04.120 we were going to be losing close. Yep. Nathan deal. Yep. And our, our strategy was to get double
00:48:12.960 digit black vote, which we did through expanding charter schools and prison reform and, uh, jobs,
00:48:19.740 et cetera, for, for, uh, all Georgians. Um, he did that and he, he was a model for the way to win.
00:48:25.600 We won by eight points in 2014 and he helped us win, uh, in 2016, uh, with president Trump. So, uh, if you get,
00:48:34.680 if you, if we improve the African American vote, the Democrats have nothing, nothing left to their base.
00:48:39.720 Right. Uh, and I want to turn to, to the part of the question pertaining to the realignment in the Republican
00:48:46.420 party, uh, that is corporate America with a Marxist left in point of fact. And if the Marxist left, uh,
00:48:53.420 the radical Dems, uh, themselves, uh, left to their own coalition devices, I mean, it is really, uh,
00:49:00.640 quite a, a, a breathtaking, uh, to me evolution to see corporate America lined up with a democratic party.
00:49:08.880 No, it's, it's, it's very bad for the country. It's going to be bad for them because, uh,
00:49:13.920 because what you've got is now the Republicans, which is good for us, good for the conservative
00:49:19.480 movement, say, uh, Donald Trump has transformed through his attention to trade issues and, uh,
00:49:27.380 you know, immigration issues. He's transformed the Republican party into the party of the working
00:49:32.000 class, the party of working men and women of America. And ironically, and small, yes. And ironically,
00:49:40.120 our high tech society, you've got, uh, these oligarchs, these high tech oligarchs who are
00:49:46.100 opposed to free speech, who are really building up huge negatives among the American public to the
00:49:53.140 point where they have to change the name of Facebook because they know they're in trouble
00:49:57.920 because people see their privacy invaded. They see that their rights are being abridged and,
00:50:03.700 and, uh, you know, the United States. And we're being surveilled 24 seven by big tech, social media,
00:50:10.060 uh, and Silicon Valley. I mean, and I love the fact that you use the word that we use on this,
00:50:16.000 on this, on the, on the great America show, they are oligarchs, any other country, they'd be oligarchs
00:50:22.780 here. They are, you know, they're entrepreneurs and digital, uh, metaverse. No, they're oligarchs.
00:50:28.900 God bless you, John. Well, I might've heard that on your show before, but it's, it sticks. So when you
00:50:38.140 think about it, I mean, think about basically what you've got, you've got, you know, they're the party
00:50:45.240 of the rich and the Hawaiian and cheese elites who are basically exploiting the working class in
00:50:51.280 America. And, and the majority, Donald Trump was elected in 2016, uh, basically to repudiate that.
00:51:00.000 And he did. And they, they, you know, to the point of, you know, Zuckerberg spending 400 million
00:51:07.300 dollars to create unsecured drop boxes and, and, and, you know, ballot harvesting that was engineered,
00:51:14.620 by the way, that was all engineered by Obama's campaign manager, David Pluck. He had written, he works for
00:51:20.840 him. He'd written a book, Citizen's Guide to Defeat Donald Trump. It was in there and they did exactly what
00:51:25.480 they said they were going to do. And, uh, you know, so, so basically the, the, the heartland
00:51:31.960 of America where Donald Trump created a coalition in the rust belt and the sun belt and the working
00:51:37.680 classes of America, they are going to, they're definitely in revolt right now and they're going
00:51:42.280 to take it back. So, uh, so the smart corporate money will be on the working people of America
00:51:47.600 and not this elitist pro-communist China, um, you know, kind of ideology. So, well, let me, uh, let me
00:51:56.420 wrap up very quickly with my question and then I'm going to ask you for your last word, but first a
00:52:02.180 question and, and your answer on this. Can the Republicans succeed by continuing this high level
00:52:09.960 of tolerance for rhinos who really are proxies for, for Democrats?
00:52:17.600 Well, I, you know, when you say the Republicans, you may be referring to the elites in the Republican
00:52:23.320 party, like the Mitt Romneys of the world, et cetera, the people that run the, you know, uh, the party
00:52:28.680 apparatus in certain places, they're not going to succeed because the primary voters, the rank and
00:52:33.040 file Republican primary voters are going to turn out the rhinos, which is why, you know, we'll, we will
00:52:39.080 win primaries in 2022. Those, those, uh, members of Congress that voted to impeach Donald Trump,
00:52:45.040 they're going to be history. Um, the majority of Republicans are going to nominate, uh, you know,
00:52:51.460 candidates that reflect their values and their beliefs, and that will enable us to win in, uh,
00:52:56.500 November next year. If we don't do that, uh, the Republicans will snatch defeat from the jaws of
00:53:02.400 victory once again. Um, just like, you know, Mitt Romney did in 2012. And, uh, which you'll see.
00:53:09.540 Let me ask you this, but that, that victory was snatched through voter fraud, uh, whether,
00:53:16.280 and, and I'm not saying fraud that changed the outcome, uh, although that would be the
00:53:21.320 inference and conclusion of what you said earlier in the podcast, but we saw Democrats and Republicans
00:53:27.820 alike change election laws without going through their state legislature because of quote unquote,
00:53:32.580 the COVID crisis. Will there be, do you think sufficient electoral integrity in 2022 and 2024
00:53:41.160 to assure that the people get the candidate elected they want? Yes, there will be. But first I was
00:53:48.580 referring to the Romney election of 2012, right? Because not Donald Trump's election, because we
00:53:54.560 know that they, that they definitely changed the rules and they allowed ballots that shouldn't have
00:53:58.980 been cast. But, but, uh, uh, that's what I was referring to basically where, where basically,
00:54:04.760 you know, when the country was hit by hurricane Sandy, you had Obama hugging Chris Christie and
00:54:10.140 Mitt Romney missing in action. And we lost in the last weekend. Right. What I was, but in Georgia,
00:54:15.940 Georgia, I worked for the house Republican majority this year and speaker Ralston and the majority
00:54:21.540 changed the election laws and major league baseball. And by the way, the way they change the election
00:54:27.300 laws, they require voter ID, not just for in-person, but also for absentee ballots. And that's fair.
00:54:33.460 Most vast majority of Americans support that they still have early absentee balloting, no excuse.
00:54:39.240 They still have secure drop boxes, but they're in government offices and not just in democratic
00:54:44.700 neighborhoods and unsecured. And, and, and, and basically they've created, uh, they've created an
00:54:52.940 election system where you have honest elections, but more liberal laws than New York or, uh, Delaware.
00:54:59.520 And, and people can have confidence in an honest election. Guess what? Since we've done that,
00:55:04.080 although major league baseball and, uh, and Joe Biden attacked them, we've had elections where
00:55:10.820 Republicans have been winning in swing areas decisively by 20 points, like in Cobb County.
00:55:15.700 Uh, even the Atlanta Braves won the world series. So it tells you what tells you what they're what's
00:55:21.380 going on. And they cheered when Donald Trump showed up. And when you think of New York,
00:55:25.880 I just recently, the New York state conservative party that we worked for defeated three propositions
00:55:31.540 in deep blue, New York, where the Democrats were going to try to push. These were amendments on the
00:55:37.120 ballot, change the state constitution, count illegal immigrants in, in redistricting, allow same day
00:55:43.860 registration in a state where you don't ask for voter ID because you're not allowed to. And also to have
00:55:50.820 no excuse absentees instead of being able to, you know, require. And we won each of those propositions
00:55:57.300 60, 40, not close in New York. So people know that something's wrong. And even Democrats joined with
00:56:05.200 independents and Republicans want to fix it. They want honest elections and they don't want to see
00:56:10.840 what happened in 2020 ever happen again. Uh, we also know that part of that is, uh, a, a complacent
00:56:18.580 Republican national committee, which after the autopsy of 2012 is even more inexcusable, uh,
00:56:28.240 because we knew better, uh, yet that we didn't have Republicans standing in the poll places to watch
00:56:35.820 the ballots being cast. We didn't have them where they were to be represented. We allowed Democrats
00:56:41.840 to push them out, uh, of the polling places all across, all across the country, not just the five
00:56:48.200 critical states so-called. Uh, so I, the party itself as it's represented by the Republican national
00:56:56.300 committee, uh, didn't know what they were doing. They didn't put enough people on the ground. They
00:57:01.800 didn't have lawyers where they needed to be. And they said they did, uh, and they lost. And by God,
00:57:08.060 what have we got as a result? The Republican party has the same RNC leadership in place that lost the
00:57:14.800 election of 2020. Why? Well, it's, by the way, since I don't, I don't have, I don't have a contract
00:57:22.080 with them. I don't do work for them, but, uh, and that tells you a lot, but, but anyway, the, uh,
00:57:28.180 but the, but I will tell you, New York city, you know, New York city going forward right now,
00:57:35.580 they are going to try to pass a law to allow immigrants in New York city who are not citizens
00:57:42.320 to vote in municipal elections, which may be about as high as 800,000 people. 85% of all Americans
00:57:50.160 think only citizens should be allowed to vote. The Republican national committee needs to get out
00:57:55.960 in front of that law and sue the laws in 2020 when they changed it during COVID, whether it was
00:58:01.120 Georgia or Pennsylvania, wherever the Republican national committee needed to sue and they, and
00:58:06.880 they needed to stop them legally and they didn't do it. And I'm waiting to see if the Republican
00:58:12.360 national committee steps up and all the money they're raising in Donald Trump's name, use it to
00:58:17.780 stop non-citizens from voting to cancel out American city, uh, American citizens votes where,
00:58:25.580 I mean, if they don't do that in New York city, it's going to spread all over the country.
00:58:30.580 And, uh, uh, they, you know, a lot of these Republicans at the Republican national committee,
00:58:34.920 they'd just write off large parts of, uh, uh, the United States, uh, where I, you know, I used to
00:58:40.980 kill kid, kid, call Rove. And I used to say to Carl, you don't do away games. You only play in
00:58:45.060 states where you think you can win. Those of us who grew up with like, uh, you know,
00:58:50.080 Lee Atwater and Ronald Reagan, et cetera. We try to win every state. We try to win. Amen, brother.
00:58:56.880 We try to win the whole country, including California and New York. And we've done that before.
00:59:01.740 So, you know, uh, the real asset test is let's see if the Republican national committee steps up
00:59:07.640 and sues to, to reaffirm the right, that if, if you allow non-citizens to vote, it's unconstitutional
00:59:13.900 and you're, you're cheapening and weakening the vote of every American citizen across this country.
00:59:20.420 John McLaughlin, we thank you for being with us. You get the last word on any subject you wish,
00:59:26.680 uh, of course, in a, uh, economical amount of time.
00:59:31.120 Well, I just, you're doing a great job. Your listeners are great people and, uh, they should
00:59:35.500 have hope. It's, it's, I just wish the election was tomorrow and not next November, but they need
00:59:41.160 to get out and vote in the primaries and they need to get out and vote next November. And that's the
00:59:45.880 start of, uh, straightening out America because the only thing that Democrats will listen to is when
00:59:50.060 we, or these socialists, these big government socialists is when we knock them out of power
00:59:54.900 and, and, uh, show them that there's an American majority that wants to run this country and not
01:00:00.560 them.
01:00:01.940 John McLaughlin, I have to tell you, uh, I'm deeply appreciative, uh, for your appearance here
01:00:07.120 and the tutorial that you've given all of us, uh, fascinating, uh, entertaining, enlightening.
01:00:14.380 And, uh, thank you so much. And I hope you'll come back real soon.
01:00:18.880 Thank you.
01:00:19.900 Thanks. John McLaughlin.
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