BIDEN IS OBAMA’S PUPPET
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The Biden regime is increasingly desperate and running from the committee s revelations as more whistleblowers stand up for what s right, for the good of the nation. Former senior Department of Defense official, author of the bestselling book Government Gangsters, Kash Patel, joins host Lou Dobbs on The Great America Show.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and this is The Great America Show. Welcome. It's great to have
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you with us. I've been telling you for some time now that I believe we're finally seeing the
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beginnings of a turning point in what has been our long national nightmare of Marxist, dim,
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and deep state corruption and control of our federal government. And today, I'm pleased to
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tell you there is more evidence of improving prospects that we will be able to restore our
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badly wounded republic. And thanks to the congressional investigating committees, the
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Biden regime is increasingly desperate and running from the committee's revelations as more whistleblowers
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stand up for what's right, for the good of the nation. The Biden Justice Department this week
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sent a letter to Congress to inform House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan that they will
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actually allow him to talk with the highly controversial U.S. Attorney for Delaware,
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David Weiss, in committee to testify before Congress on his role in the five-year-long
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Hunter Biden tax investigation. The Justice Department wants Weiss to testify before his committee
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to address the testimony from two IRS whistleblowers who testified the DOJ pressured Weiss to stand down
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on the investigation of Hunter Biden. Here's a quick excerpt from that letter to Chairman Jim
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The department believes it is strongly in the public interest for the American people
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and for Congress to hear directly from U.S. Attorney Weiss on these assertions and questions
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about his authority at a public hearing. End quote.
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Did you hear that? The department believes? How does a department believe? Do they mean Attorney General
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Merrick Garland believes or maybe the FBI director believes? Who is it that believes? Isn't that
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interesting? They hide from the American people in even their letters to Congress. And just the news is
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reporting that congressional investigators have set a new date for former Hunter Biden business partner
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Devin Archer to testify before Congress. The House Oversight Committee will be conducting the transcribed
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interview next Monday. And Oversight Committee Chairman Comer has said all along that the committee
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is focused on President Biden. It's investigating Biden and his corrupt regime. Comer released the
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Joe Biden lied to the American people when he said he knew nothing about his son's business dealings.
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Evidence continues to be revealed that Joe Biden was very much involved in his family's corrupt
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influence peddling schemes and he likely benefited financially. This includes deal with a corrupt
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Ukrainian oligarch and a CCP-linked energy company that generated millions of dollars for the Bidens
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and undermined American interests. End quote. That from Chairman James Comer.
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And so now we wait to see just how much Joe Biden knew about his son's business dealings. There's no
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doubt now he was aware of his son's deals. That alone means that he lied to everyone. Last week,
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when the two IRS whistleblowers testified before his committee, Marxist M. Congressman Dan Goldman
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shocked onlookers when he said that Joe Biden was indeed aware and involved in his son's business
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dealings. Here he is. And you testified that he said to to that Hunter told his dad, according to Rob
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Walker, quote, I may be trying to start a company or try to do something with these guys. Now, let me ask
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you something. That doesn't sound much like Joe Biden was involved in whatever Hunter Biden was doing
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with the CEFC if Hunter Biden is telling him that he's trying to do business with them, does it?
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No, but it does show that he said he told his father he was trying to do business and he was talking.
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Well, that is true. Hunter Biden does try to do business. That's correct. So you don't not only have
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no direct evidence connecting Joe Biden to any of Hunter Biden's business deal. You actually had proof
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that he wasn't involved. That is the proof that you had. As you heard, Congressman Goldman still has
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to be choking on what he accidentally spilled in a thoughtless moment to the committee that day. That
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is the truth about President Biden. Joining us now is former senior Department of Defense official,
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author of the bestselling book, Government Gangsters, Kash Patel. He's also host of his podcast,
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Cash's Corner. And Cash, we're delighted to have you back with us here on The Great America Show.
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Let's start with the House oversight revelations with the unexpected assistance of the Marxist
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New York Congressman Goldman. The word is that Joe Biden is a liar. He must still be crying.
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Your thoughts? Well, Lou, it's great to be with you on your wonderful program that dares to put out
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the truth, unlike so many other out there in the garbage media. So, and I'm happy to talk
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anything, including our silver spoon friend, Representative Goldman, who has a history of
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falsely castigating brave whistleblowers from the FBI and denigrating them because they were putting
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out the truth and issuing corruption at the FBI and DOJ. And he did it with me, and I've referred
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him criminally to the DOJ, actually, for committing crimes from the well of Congress when he lied about
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the whistleblowers, me and my foundation. So I might have a personal bone to pick with him,
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but there's a funny thing about the truth, Lou, talking about the hearings that were most recent
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with the IRS whistleblowers. When all you do is go before Congress and swear to tell the truth and
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then tell the truth, even guys like Adam Goldman or Dan Goldman, who is Schiff's protege, get caught
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with the truth in their mouth. And they end up admitting the one singular fact that the Democrats
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wanted to avoid a direct link between Hunter Biden and the money coming in from China and his father,
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Joe Biden. And Dan Goldman admitted to the connection after the whistleblower testified that
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that is exactly what the purpose of his testimony was, to show a money connection and a conversation
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between Hunter and Joe. That is pretty damning evidence, whether it's in a court of law or the
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well of Congress. It was an extraordinary moment, and much was revealed as a result of that hearing.
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As James Comer, the chairman of the committee, had promised there would be, it was a little slow at
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the start, but then the fireworks started, and away we go. There were all kinds of revelations that I
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think are important. Did you find that affirming?
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Well, I always go to CNN for one thing, to learn what the news is not. And they have failed to cover
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these brave whistleblower testimony. And the funny, ironic twist is the fact that Dan Goldman
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said what he said is forcing them to cover it. It's kind of the irony of all ironies when
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their puppet masters perpetuating disinformation campaigns with the likes of CNN and the New York
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Times are forced to cover a statement that Dan Goldman has connected Joe to Hunter and the money
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in China. And so now they're actually trying to run a disinformation campaign, shielding Joe Biden
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from it by somehow saying, oh, it was one phone call or one message. But the whistleblowers came in and
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testified, there's more WhatsApp messages, there's more text messages, there's more phone calls. And
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more importantly, these whistleblowers who are Democrats and don't like Trump or Republicans have
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jeopardized their careers because they came forth and said, we want to do what the whistleblower
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protection statute act says, expose corruption. They were shut down by Merrick Garland, Christopher
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Wray, and this administration and attorney Weiss from prosecuting and investigating this case to the
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fullest extent of the law. That is a damning indictment of the individuals, these government gangsters
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that are in leadership positions. And the difference between the whistleblowers and them is the
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whistleblowers came into Congress, swore an oath and testified to this information. Weiss and Garland
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and Wray are putting out deflections and Washington speak cottage cheese versions of disinformation
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so they can obfuscate the truth. Let's get them into Congress and see who's actually lying. And it tells me
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It's America's heritage and our treasured system of government that has been defiled
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by the Marxist Dems and the party that they are leading, the Democrat Party, as well as the deep
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But you're absolutely right. And I know there's a chorus for impeaching of Joe Biden, but I'm in
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the minority. I say save our time and ammunition and impeach Ray and Garland. And the reason I say
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that is because they have created the two tier system of justice. And when you have an impeachment,
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I know the Senate, it's not going to go anywhere, but the trial is the win, Lou. And I think that's what
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you're alluding to. They have to force the production of documents from the FBI, from these
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whistleblowers, from the IRS emails and memorandums as to who authorized or declined to prosecute
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these cases. And why was it they were given preferential treatment and the agents were actually
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told not to speak to Hunter Biden and his family about this case and that the Bidens were given a
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heads up that this investigation was even going on. All of that information would come out
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in a forum because as bad as the fake news is, they would have to cover the impeachment
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of a cabinet level judicial officer such as the attorney general or the FBI director
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or a U.S. attorney in this case. And that would at least allow people to be educated on
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the truth. It's not a right wing conspiracy. These whistleblowers are hatching up. It is
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effective exposure of government corruption at the highest levels to do one thing, rig a presidential
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election. And that cannot happen again. So I hope Congress and the Republicans do one big
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impeachment of Garland and Ray. And that would be a win for America.
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Well, we're going to talk about that win and that way to win. We're talking with Cash Patel,
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great American. We're coming right back. Please stay with us.
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We're back now talking with Cash Patel and your strategy, if you will, to bring an impeachment
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proceeding against Garland and Mayorkas, both at the same time or one at a time. And what would be
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the sequence? Yeah, I put my house investigative hat on from back in the day when I ran Russiagate
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with Chairman Devin Nunes. And I think what Chairman Comer's staff is doing is one is a page
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out of that playbook right now. They're collecting information. They're getting documents. Look at
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the behind the scenes work that has gone on that we've now only just learned about that. These
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whistleblowers, even though they testified publicly, have been testifying behind closed doors
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in anonymity without any leaks for weeks and months. So that tells me they're running a righteous
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investigation. And when that investigation leads to corruption at the top of the judicial system,
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where it has here with Gray and Garland at the FBI and DOJ, respectively, that's the point where
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you pull the trigger. And I think that's where we're at. So now what has to happen is subpoenas
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of Christopher Wray and Merrick Garland have to come out and you have to give them the opportunity to
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either come to Congress and speak or decline or show the American people that they refused
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or deflected. And so once they're afforded that opportunity, then you bring the charges for
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impeachment to say on such and such date, Merrick Garland lied about how his attorney general's office
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kept a neutral position in the Hunter Biden investigation. They simply did not. How Christopher
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Ray lied about retaliating against brave FBI whistleblowers who exposed waste, fraud and
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abuse by firing essentially three of them? And how is it that this DOJ and FBI came in and kicked off an
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IRS investigative unit of five years running on the Hunter Biden tax and bribery scandal and jettisoned
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them overnight? These are questions that formulate the basis of an impeachment. And I think that's where
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the road's heading. And hopefully before Congress breaks here in August, they'll issue the subpoenas.
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And as soon as they come back, I would start the impeachment process. And I remind everyone,
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an impeachment isn't a conviction. It's the bringing of charges. Look what they did to President Trump
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baselessly. Just because the Democrats had the majority in the House, they baselessly impeached
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President Trump twice. It led to nowhere. But the good thing was we saw what a fake deck of cards
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Adam Schiff and company were carrying about January 6th and about everything else related to the
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Ukraine. Here, it's a little different. We will see the truth come out to the world about Hunter
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Biden, about bribery, about China, about the two-tier system of justice and how Chris Wray and Merrick
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Garland have lied and committed acts of felonies by lying under oath and violating congressional subpoenas.
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Those are heavy charges that this Justice Department supposedly tells us they prosecute all the time.
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To Chairman James Comer and his committee, great credit is owed because what they have revealed to
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this point, there is a decent person in this country who does not see what Joe Biden, his crime family
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and his sickening Marxist regime is. And we know so much now about what they've done.
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It is remarkable what that committee has done, in my opinion. Also, I want to give credit to Chuck Grassley
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over the Senate, getting a hold of that 1023 and revealing that Biden was the subject of a $10 million
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bribe file. The Burisma chief said he was coerced to pay Joe and Hunter to just save his skin.
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This is the same oligarch who has apparently 15 to 17 tapes or so we're told.
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Well, look, you raise a great point. Senator Chuck Grassley, who I worked on when I was running
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Russiagate for Chairman Nunes, was a powerful ally in the Senate, and no one can besmirch his
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credibility when it comes to whistleblowers. It's a passion of his, and he always brings
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forth information only after it has been credibly verified. So when he tells you that there are 15 to
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17 recordings sitting somewhere in FBI holdings because a confidential human source recorded
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conversations involving Hunter Biden, his family, Joe Biden and the Chinese and the CCP,
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you could take that to Vegas, my hometown, and go to a casino and bank it because that is absolutely
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truthful information coming out of Chuck Grassley's mouth. The question is, what do we do next? And it
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relates to the impeachment inquiries we were just talking about. The subpoenas have gone out for this
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information. It almost led to a contempt of Congress hearing. And Chris Ray bent the knee and provided
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the document in piecemeal, which I didn't think was sufficient because he did not provide the
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recordings. And now we are hearing from other whistleblowers that those recordings were credibly
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attributed to this investigation. And then there exists. So the subpoenas for the actual recordings
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must be issued. And those recordings should be played for the entire world to hear during said
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impeachment of Ray and Garland. I think Senator Grassley is adding an extremely valuable
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position because he is a man who has a platform in the Senate. Unfortunately, we're Republicans in the
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minority, but he's adding value by showcasing what whistleblower programs are supposed to be like
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and juxtapositioning them. If we can rewind the tape a little here, Lou, to how whistleblower programs
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have been corrupted, i.e. Eric Chiaramella and his sidekick, Alexander Vindman, and of course,
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their protege or their buddy Adam Schiff. They baselessly accused a president of unlawful
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conduct and were rewarded for it by the media. Now that we are truthfully receiving whistleblower
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content, the media is ducking and covering and Adam Goldman is jumping through hoops. But thankfully,
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he did his job for us. And I think Senator Grassley is just warming up. I think knowing how Senator
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Grassley works, he's just revealed 5% of the information he already has. He's waiting for
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the media to step in it time and time again. And we're going to see a release of information over
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the next couple of months. It's going to be extraordinary. We'll be right back with Cash Patel.
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We're back with Cash Patel. And Cash, I want to turn to, if I may, the whistleblower,
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Joseph Ziegler saying that the IRS investigators were discouraged from pursuing Biden crimes,
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being told that they could not talk with the adult children of President Biden. These are
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outrageous statements. And the FBI and DOJ people making, well, forming that communication and then
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making it, they have to be absolutely either stupid or so arrogant to do that. Because this,
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we're going to find out who did what now. You're absolutely right. And it's their arrogance. And
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look, as a former national security prosecutor, I worked with these individuals, the special counsel's
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team, the DOJ team, and all the people that are getting glad handed by the media for putting up these
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baseless prosecutions and investigations. But here's the one thing, Lou, and you know this better than
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probably anybody. If what the whistleblowers were saying was even remotely false, the deep state
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would have risen up and leaked information to castigate them personally and attribute a false
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narrative to their names. They haven't said anything. No one at DOJ and FBI has denied what
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these brave whistleblowers are saying. No one at the IRS has come forward and say, no, no, you guys are
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liars. All they've resorted to is personal attacks against individuals who don't even subscribe to a
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conservative agenda. So they can't be political hacks. Instead, we are seeing the true weaponization
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of government, not just in the executive branch, but in the oversight branch of the legislative body.
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And so I hope that more whistleblowers come forward, not just within the IRS and DOJ, but from
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elsewhere. And I think you're going to see a direct linkage of the following. The bank accounts that
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Comer is sitting on show that the immutable fact that money doesn't lie. And when you have 17 million
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dollars being exchanged from CCP affiliated entities, the Ukraine, then the Biden crime family syndicate
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and the DOJ and FBI come in and tell their investigators, don't talk to the kids. Did anyone
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at the DOJ and FBI tell Donald Trump's family or excuse me, the agents investigating Donald Trump
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basically not to talk to his children? Of course not. It's a two tier system of justice,
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even when it comes to the, excuse me, the legislative branch. And I think the win, as I've told President
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Trump here on this issue, the win is that America is seeing this two tier system of justice. So I hope
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James Comer continues on this track. I know it's not easy. I know the staff is short and they're doing
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what they can, but I echo what you said. It's commendable what they've done. And now they need to
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double down and keep going because no one on the left has issued a counter narrative to what the
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whistleblowers have said, because it is true. They just want to bury it. And now we must expose
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the cast of characters who tried to have it buried at DOJ and FBI. And I think that's what's coming
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next. They need to start naming names. One of the most idiotic things I have seen in Congress
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is Debbie Wasserman Schultz trying to shut down as censure Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in a hearing on
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government censorship. It's just, you can't make her up.
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Well, I think you've seen the height that the democratic machine will go to just to ensure
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that no one threatens their puppet master that is Joe Biden or empty puppet master.
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RFK Jr. is mounting a serious campaign as a democratic candidate for presidency.
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And the radical left is terrified. Enter Debbie Wasserman Schultz and her somehow attributing
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falsely that RFK Jr. is an anti-Semite and was somehow pro-Holocaust. I mean, the narrative is
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ludicrous. And when it enters her mouth and leaves it at the dais of Congress and America listens to it,
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the look that RFK Jr. gave back to her was stunning yet actually mildly polite because he
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was probably thinking this lady is so out of her mind to accuse me of these things. And he's just
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going to combat powerful, more stronger from this narrative. And this escapade that the Dems are on
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at the weaponization of government subcommittee hearings, I think is going to fail. They desperately
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want RFK out of the race. They desperately don't want a Green Party candidate or a Libertarian
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candidate entering the race like they are around the country because it will splinter their vote
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and ensure Joe Biden's defeat. And that's just the political landscape. Now you're talking about
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the subject matter that Joe Biden is running on. And there's not one single issue that he has
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improved in this country since taking office, not the border, not China, not ending wars,
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not drugs, not crime, not Russia, not international relations, not anything going on in South Asia and
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the South China Sea. He has ruined the economy and he has taken a wrecking ball to American
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constitutional values. And when a guy like RFK Jr. enters the scene and shows that from the
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Democratic position, oh, you better bet they're threatened. So they're looking to take him out.
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Why is the DOJ, the FBI and the Internal Revenue Service, the Treasury Department? Why are they
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protecting Joe Biden? They're protecting themselves. These government gangsters, as I label them in my
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book, Gray, Garland, Mayorkas, Esper. Well, Esper is not in Austin. Excuse me, Mark Milley. All of these
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people, the only thing they care about is staying in power, staying in their perch atop of the United
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States government and making sure their names are in the headlines and they are lauded for their fake
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false work for the American people. So they don't care about Joe Biden. Joe Biden is their vehicle
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to stay in power and run this country. We all know that Joe Biden himself is not in charge of
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anything. His White House is run by Obama, former officials, and from the Obama team on the outside.
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And we've seen what his executive branch and cabinet officers and secretaries are doing.
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They don't care. They will do and say anything, including things at DOD, such as the Department
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of Defense, which I used to run as chief of staff now under the Biden administration and Mark Milley
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care more about diversity, equity, inclusion than they do about stopping the flow of Chinese fentanyl
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through our southern border. Then they do about the war that might be coming in the South China Sea,
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than the war that is in the Ukraine. And all they want to do is print money because the narrative
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in the media is, oh, we have to send more and more over there. I think all of it is catching up to
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them, Lou. And I think they are about to run out of runway and the fake news mafia is desperately
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trying to lay down more pavement and more runway for them to run on. But I think it's coming to an
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end. We just need Congress to be strong in these next few months. And that's my message to everybody.
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Everybody asked me what you can do. Call Congress and tell them the single issue that matters to
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you most and make sure they hear you say it because they react to the public just as much
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And corporate America bears great responsibility here. And they don't get the attention they should
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from either the political leaders of the Republican Party or the administration.
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Forget about the Marxist Dems. They're quite happy with the status quo. But we all need to be aware
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that this is a corporate problem as well as a government problem.
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I think you're absolutely right. And just look at two cultural items that are just in vogue right now.
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Jason Aldean's song, Try That in a Small Town, is number one on the charts. And they tried to
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fake and falsely accuse him of being a racist and stoking violence when all he cared about,
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and I know him personally, was to stop violence and stop the burning of buildings and help law
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enforcement and bring our community together. That song's number one. So corporate America
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in the music industry failed. And then look to my friend Jim Caviezel and his amazing movie,
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The Sound of Freedom, about the story about child sex trafficking and defeating that.
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And that movie is nearing $100 million in box office sales. And the corporate regime in Hollywood
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failed. And these people are actually coming out against a movie that talks about defeating
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trafficking children in sexual tirades. I mean, just think about that. That shows you how far
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the radical left has come. These are the same people who are conspiring with the people in government
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to take down our country. But I think America is waking up. I think they really are. And I just want
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to add one more thing, Lou. It dovetails with what we're talking about today. Jim Jordan just launched
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an investigation into the FBI and DOJ, specifically Chris Wray and Rod Rosenstein,
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for spying unlawfully on Devin Nunes and myself when I was running the Russiagate investigation
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five years ago. They actually had the gall to come and investigate senior congressional staffers and use
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grand jury subpoenas to collect our information because we were exposing their corruption. I know
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this was five years ago, but we only found out about it a few months ago because Google called us
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and said, hey, you were subpoenaed five years ago. We can now tell you because it's over
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because the five years have expired. But thankfully, Jim Jordan has opened an investigation.
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He has sent out a letter and subpoenas, hopefully, to get these documents. Now,
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Ray and Rosenstein must answer the question under oath why they were subpoenaing and surveilling
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senior congressional staff who are exposing their waste, fraud and abuse in government.
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There's some irony in Google being the ones to inform you.
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When I read those first reports on that, I thought to myself, this is just too ironic for words.
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What was your thought when you saw that you had to be suspicious because you'd been spied on before?
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I was suspicious at the time. I guess there are no coincidences in government. And then we had a
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January meeting in January of 2018. It was myself, Devin Nunes, Christopher Wray, Rod Rosenstein and his senior
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goon squad from the FBI. And we were meeting in the Capitol in a skiff. And Rod Rosenstein unleashed on us.
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He threatened to investigate us. And the irony of it all is that he lied in that meeting.
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So did Chris Wray. They already authorized subpoenas three months earlier to collect our information so you could see their intent.
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What are they going to say? Cash Patel was disclosing national security secrets. That's a total farce.
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It was going nowhere. It's a pretext to come in and dig up dirt because we had proven to them that the FISA that Rod Rosenstein had signed
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surveilling President Trump was unlawful and violated every tenant of justice and enter.
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Don't believe us. Look at what John Durham said. No lawful premise to ever investigate Trump ever.
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And Rod Rosenstein goes in and signs the fourth and last FISA based on bogus Trumped up information.
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He's the same guy that authorized Andy McCabe to go out and wear a wire against President Trump under the 25th Amendment.
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That's why we knew those suspicion existed back then.
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But Lou, even after everything I was been through, I was kind of even surprised when I read Google's notification.
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And Google's not the only one. That's just the one we know about.
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The hole is much deeper. They surveilled us. We're going to get to the bottom of it.
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Hopefully, Jim Jordan executes some subpoenas ASAP and puts butts in seats and gets us documents.
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Cash Patel, we wish you all the best. You are a great American. You serve this country daily.
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Thank you, my friend. It's great to be on your show. And I hope to come back soon.
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Cash Patel, top Trump official, great American.
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Author of the children's book as well, The Plot Against the King.
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