The Great America Show - May 10, 2023


BIDEN RACKET SCANDAL WORSENS


Episode Stats

Length

47 minutes

Words per Minute

174.99753

Word Count

8,267

Sentence Count

535

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

11


Summary

In this episode of The Great America Show, host Lou Dobbs is joined by the founder of FrontlineAmerica, Ben Bergwam, who has been on both sides of the border for the past two weeks. They discuss the surge of illegal immigrants crossing the southern border, and what the Border Patrol is doing to prepare for them.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello everybody and welcome to The Great America Show. I'm Lou Dobbs and it's great to have you with us.
00:00:06.120 We're now only one day from the Title 42 law being lifted and that means we're one day away
00:00:12.460 from our southern border being flooded with illegal immigrants. I want to begin by bringing
00:00:17.740 in our first guest, the founder of FrontlineAmerica.com. He's the host of Law and Border
00:00:23.540 on Real America's Voice, Ben Bergwam. Great to have you with us, Ben, and for the last two weeks
00:00:29.820 you've been on both sides of the border in Mexico, El Salvador, and Texas. Tell us what you've seen.
00:00:36.660 Well, thanks, Lou. As always, it's an honor to be with you. Yeah, I just came back. We were on a
00:00:42.200 tour. We continuously go to different parts of the border, basically trying to show what Kamala
00:00:46.880 Harris, the Democrats, don't want you to see, the real root causes. And we were down in Panama
00:00:52.520 about four weeks ago. We were involved in a shootout with the Colombian cartel known as
00:00:59.480 Cartel de Golfo. And in that case, we actually, one of them was killed by Centerfront, the guys we
00:01:05.720 were with, and two others were apprehended. But these guys control this area. They control the
00:01:10.780 routes from Colombia all the way up to Matamoros into Brownsville, Texas. And they're simply being
00:01:17.660 enriched by Secretary Mayorkas and Joe Biden's policies. They claim that the borders are closed.
00:01:23.800 And so right after we got helicoptered out, evac'd out from Panama, we went back to the border. And
00:01:31.560 about a week ago, I was down in Brownsville and on the Mexico side in Matamoros, Mexico,
00:01:37.640 again, a stronghold of the Gulf cartel, and witnessed the lies. It was actually the day after
00:01:44.080 Secretary Mayorkas announced, he did his press conference saying that the border is not open,
00:01:49.640 that they're going to be expelling illegals that come across illegally, that you have to enter
00:01:54.560 legally. I went down there to see if he was telling the truth. And not surprisingly, as we've seen time
00:02:01.480 and again, everything he said is lies, that they are simply going across the river illegally. And to the
00:02:08.300 point where I was actually, it just was happenstance. I was there as an excavator on the U.S. side. I was
00:02:14.980 standing on the Mexico side. And I heard this tractor noise behind me. And I look, and there's
00:02:22.100 this massive excavator. And I realized what it was doing was actually clearing a path along the river.
00:02:28.060 So there's places where the illegals are crossing. Apparently, Border Patrol thought it wasn't suitable
00:02:34.540 because they had to throw ropes down to actually help the people out of the water rather than telling
00:02:39.260 them to turn around and go back. They're actually helping them out of the water along with Texas
00:02:43.500 DPS and Texas National Guard. And so they decided to basically create a landing ramp
00:02:50.880 for the invasion that's coming. And I witnessed them actually build this in front of me. It's about
00:02:57.480 20 feet wide and about 40 feet up the banks. And it just makes it very simple once they cross
00:03:03.460 illegally to walk on in. We went into the town of Brownsville and witnessed the downtown being
00:03:09.620 completely overrun. We tried to confront one of the NGOs that's down there. It's called Team
00:03:15.040 Brownsville. It's a communist organization, leftist organization that's being paid for at taxpayer
00:03:19.960 expense. And they are simply inviting illegals in. DPS is handing them off to them to the tune of
00:03:26.660 upwards of 2,000 a day now. And they are putting them on buses and planes and shipping them around
00:03:31.820 the country. We followed that up by just in El Salvador. And we just got back from that trip.
00:03:39.080 And so it's been wild. But needless to say, the bottom line is everything that's coming out of
00:03:44.080 Washington, D.C. is a lie. And when Title 42 goes away, it's going to be even a bigger disaster than
00:03:50.040 we've seen, which what we've seen so far is the most unprecedented invasion we've ever seen on our
00:03:56.160 shores. So one of the many things that you just said that troubles me is it sounds like the Texas
00:04:04.220 Department of Public Safety isn't on that line to hold back illegal immigrants crossing, but rather
00:04:12.280 to accommodate them and to provide for their safety. Is that a fair construction? Yeah, in fact,
00:04:18.380 well, there's two parts to it. And I'd say what we've seen on the southern border, particularly from
00:04:27.800 Texas and Governor Abbott, the one thing that has been effective and needs to continue is using DPS
00:04:35.280 on the interior. So the DPS, if you go down to the border within about 100 miles of the border,
00:04:41.520 you'll notice DPS lined up along the highways and freeways. And they are participating actively
00:04:48.340 going after smugglers. And so anybody who's come in illegally that hasn't been apprehended at the
00:04:53.480 border, DPS is being used to go after these guys. They're catching hundreds a day, if not more,
00:05:00.120 some days. And, you know, it's a massive, massive operation, again, being orchestrated by the cartels.
00:05:05.940 The problem is now we have Governor Abbott using national, primarily National Guard, sometimes it's DPS,
00:05:12.840 but almost always now it's National Guard, Texas National Guard being used basically to not repel
00:05:20.600 the invasion, but simply to accelerate it or backfill where Border Patrol is unable to process.
00:05:29.180 And so what they're doing, and we actually witnessed this, we have drone footage of them, of the National Guard
00:05:34.440 throwing a rope down to the illegals that had just crossed the river and helping them out of the water.
00:05:40.660 So rather than actually repelling them, which you would hope, you know, Governor Abbott has said
00:05:44.820 that this is an invasion. He's used the words invasion, but rather than repelling it, he's
00:05:49.780 actually, for lack of a better term, aiding it. They're using our National Guard troops to invite
00:05:56.660 them in to help Border Patrol process these illegals, many of them fake asylum seekers, you know, being
00:06:02.380 taught. And by the way, the one organization I mentioned, this is the same for almost all of
00:06:06.660 the NGOs that operate in Brownsville. They operate on both sides of the border. So they're training
00:06:11.640 people on the Mexico side how to game the system, the right words to put in their application
00:06:16.980 so that when they get across, they don't get immediately expelled. And then they get put
00:06:22.580 into the pipeline of these NGOs who then end up finishing the smuggling for the cartels and
00:06:28.640 sending them in. But while that's all happening, then you have the other guys that don't want to get
00:06:32.620 caught that are running the drugs, running the human trafficking, the sex trafficking further
00:06:37.160 up the border in different areas. And then that's, again, where DPS does play a part in
00:06:42.320 catching some of those guys. But all in all, it's burning money. I mean, we're simply burning
00:06:48.820 money because Texas and the federal government is doing absolutely nothing to stop them from
00:06:54.780 coming over in the first place.
00:06:57.040 And so I've got to ask you a question about who's there to watch along with you to observe,
00:07:02.280 to report. The New York Times, Washington Post, NBC, ABC, or all of the networks and the big,
00:07:12.540 well, I'll call them left-wing papers. Are they there?
00:07:17.320 Almost never. Unless there's a, you know, unless it's a photo op for when Joe went down to El
00:07:25.440 Paso and, you know, walked along the border. Other than that, you almost never see them. I haven't
00:07:31.500 seen them. And I was just down there a week ago. And the only, the only news networks I saw were
00:07:36.740 locals. It was us and local news. You almost never see the, you know, the big alphabet, ABC,
00:07:44.700 NBC, CBS, CNN, any of the other leftist propaganda outlets. And I, and I, you know, I believe the
00:07:50.640 reason they're not there is because they would end up having to report the reality of what's on the
00:07:54.800 ground. And they simply don't want to do that. And their corporate masters don't want them to
00:08:00.460 be reporting the truth. So they're keeping them out of there. That's a decision, an editorial decision.
00:08:05.500 That's a business decision by these networks and by these papers for the Washington Post,
00:08:11.160 the New York Times. Obviously, you call them left-wing propaganda outlets. And I think that's
00:08:18.340 exactly right. Based on what, on what they're reporting over the course of the last five to 10
00:08:24.140 years, it's been a complete, a complete investment in propaganda. And if, and if I can add one thing
00:08:31.040 to that in particular, perfect example. When I was down with my colleague, Oscar Blue, we were down in
00:08:36.400 the Darien Gap. We actually went across the Darien Gap from Columbia to Panama on our first trip. And then
00:08:41.780 we were halfway going back across when we got in a firefight. We found out when we were down there that
00:08:46.280 the New York Times had actually been there. They had been to the villages on the, very near the
00:08:51.340 Columbia side of the border, the Guna Indian tribe, they're indigenous to the area. They live, you know,
00:08:57.160 very primitively, hunter-gatherers, fishermen, and live off the land. Well, their land, we found out
00:09:04.540 that they had, New York Times had been there and reported almost nothing of the reality on the ground.
00:09:09.640 These are, you know, the very people that the left claims to care about, indigenous tribes,
00:09:13.480 the environment, all of this, being absolutely destroyed by the open borders policy, by this
00:09:20.420 invasion that the cartels and the NGOs are profiting off of. And to the point where we were actually
00:09:25.340 walking on beaches down there that had more trash than sand on them, on the very same beaches that
00:09:30.220 the New York Times had been to. And in that case, they just refused to report the truth of it. And they
00:09:35.380 simply make it this humanitarian issue that it's our fault that this is happening, ignoring the fact
00:09:40.580 that we actually, we filmed the United Nation handing out condoms and birth control to women
00:09:46.400 and children before they went across the Darien Gap because they know they're going to be raped along
00:09:50.420 the way. So these organizations aren't only, you know, it's not omission. They know exactly what's
00:09:55.920 happening. They're complicit in this. And to the point where, you know, we, they talk about
00:10:00.260 humanitarianism. President Trump's policies were the most humanitarian, most compassionate we've
00:10:05.440 seen on our southern border because he actually said, stop. He said, don't, don't sell
00:10:09.460 yourself to the cartels. Don't allow your children to be raped or stolen from you or murdered. Do it
00:10:15.360 illegally. And what we have going on right now is the exact opposite, where the, these organizations
00:10:21.460 that claim to be compassionate, claim to be charities are actually not just profiting themselves,
00:10:26.920 but profiting the most evil among us, the cartels. And we have media that is complicit in covering it
00:10:33.000 up for them.
00:10:33.480 Well, we, we have also two political parties that are not doing a, a, a damn thing to put
00:10:39.420 it straight up English. And the Republican party, the Democrat party, this is something new. This
00:10:45.620 is unprecedented what Biden and his regime are doing because they're Marxist Dems who are leading
00:10:51.620 that party. And the Marxist Dems are running this president, this white house, and these policies
00:10:57.260 we have right now been, in my opinion, we don't have a constitutional republic. It's been suspended
00:11:04.220 and made and made simply absolutely inert by this administration. He's Biden functioning as a
00:11:15.600 despot. He's not even pretending to consult with Congress on any of the unilateral moves he's made,
00:11:22.740 opening the border and flooding this country with illegal immigrants. The estimates are anywhere
00:11:28.640 around seven to 10 million over the course of the next, this next year. And it looks like what
00:11:36.840 you're describing, it sounds like they're going to do better than that. What do you, what do you
00:11:42.540 anticipate in the days ahead?
00:11:45.200 Yeah, it's, it's going to be worse than we've ever seen it. Title 42 ends on the 11th. And I
00:11:52.680 anticipate the floodgates being opened even more than they already are. They say they're going to
00:11:56.220 be going back to Title 8. I think the only thing that's going to change the current trajectory that
00:12:01.740 we're on is if they see the, their political decisions impacting the 2024 election. I think
00:12:08.160 that's the only thing that they care about. And if they see that start to happen, if they see
00:12:12.860 the Democrats begin to be even, you know, as irate, as they should be, as all American citizens should
00:12:18.720 be about this. That's the only thing that's going to change it. But the problem is the Democrats,
00:12:23.760 Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Mayorkas, Secretary Mayorkas, they're all controlled, not, not by the
00:12:27.760 Democrat party, but by the radical leftist, you know, the Marxist henchmen of, yeah, of, of the
00:12:35.420 Democrat wing. And that's who really controls it right now. They're for totally open borders.
00:12:40.040 They're for no stopgaps at all. They're for no checks for anyone. And that's, that's what's leading
00:12:46.240 the border push right now. But you mentioned it. It's not just the Democrats. It's weak.
00:12:51.500 I call them limp noodle Republicans. You know, we have the house, we have, supposedly we have
00:12:56.000 the purse strings. And that's the one thing. If, if, if they did one thing right now, the
00:13:01.240 Republicans could do this and stop much of what's happening right now and simply defund
00:13:05.940 these leftist NGOs, these non-governmental organizations who are contracted to basically
00:13:11.980 operate as a surrogate for the federal government to transport all of these illegals, they should
00:13:16.760 defund those organizations immediately. And they should begin investigations into these,
00:13:22.140 these organizations involvement with the cartels. We also need to investigate our, the politicians
00:13:26.600 in America, people like Veronica Escobar in El Paso. We know Mexico is controlled by the
00:13:32.540 cartels. It's basically a narco state. What we also know now is America, many politicians in
00:13:37.440 America have been corrupted by the same cartels. And the question is, why aren't we doing any
00:13:42.320 investigations? Why aren't there any prosecution? We spend so much time wasted on things that really
00:13:48.200 don't matter. That's where we should be focusing our energy. But as you mentioned, we hear almost
00:13:52.360 none of that from the Republican party. Well, it's a, it's a shame. And this is a dark era in American
00:13:58.320 history for so many reasons. The public trusts very few of our institutions and with good reason,
00:14:05.040 they trust very few of them. We have a, we have a, a lot of work to do to restore this great
00:14:12.960 constitutional republic of ours. Ben, I appreciate everything you're doing. I want to ask the last
00:14:18.260 time we talked, we saw nearly all men crossing, young men crossing that border, very few families.
00:14:27.600 What is, what is the situation in that instance? Are we seeing any families at all? Or is it still
00:14:33.500 mostly men being distributed all across young men being distributed all across America?
00:14:40.140 It's still mostly men still. The numbers that I'm counting are about two thirds fighting age men
00:14:44.720 and, and the families, and we're still getting the reports that basically children are being bought
00:14:49.320 and sold in order to create fake family units. You do have some families escaping places like
00:14:54.540 Venezuela, escaping communism to come here. Sadly, they're coming into a country where the political
00:14:59.560 leaders are pushing our country that direction. But the vast majority of people that I see coming
00:15:04.020 across are still fighting age men. Ben Berkman, as always, it is great to, to have you reporting here
00:15:10.080 on the great America show. We appreciate everything you do at great risk of yourself and to your
00:15:15.340 colleagues. And I just want to give a shout out to, to real America's voice for, for their coverage
00:15:24.300 of these critically important issues. Thanks for everything you do, Ben, and come back soon and
00:15:29.420 stay safe. Will you, my friend? My honor, sir, and happy to come back anytime. Thanks, Ben. Well,
00:15:36.000 the investigations into the Biden crime family are heating up. And by the way, make no mistake,
00:15:42.340 the Biden crime family is perfectly aligned with the Mexican drug cartels that Ben Berkman
00:15:48.120 has just been describing for us. We're going to take all of that up and more with John Solomon. He is
00:15:55.040 the founder and editor-in-chief of Just the News. Stay with us. We're coming right back.
00:16:01.840 Thanks for staying with us, folks. Over the last few months, James Comer, the chairman of the House
00:16:07.420 Oversight Committee, has been acquiring Biden family bank records through subpoena. Today, Congressman
00:16:14.200 Comer will be providing an update to where his investigation stands and what will be the next
00:16:20.700 steps of his committee. According to our sources, Congressman Comer has new bank records. These
00:16:27.220 records further implicate Joe Biden and his family in their pay-for-play scheme that was being run while
00:16:34.780 Joe Biden was vice president of the United States. The bank records being released today are in addition
00:16:41.820 to those released in March, showing Biden family business associate Rob Walker distributed Chinese
00:16:48.980 money in early 2017 to these people. First, Joe Biden's brother, James Biden, and then Hunter Biden,
00:16:58.680 and daughter-in-law, Hallie Biden. There was also a payment of $70,000 that went to a Biden whose name
00:17:06.160 was not identified. I wonder who that might have been. We may find out. Congressman Comer will be
00:17:13.100 joining us later this week on The Great America Show to talk about his plans to proceed with his
00:17:18.660 investigation of President Biden and the Biden crime family. Our next guest today is John Solomon,
00:17:25.720 founder and editor-in-chief of Just the News. John, great to have you back with us here on The Great
00:17:30.560 America Show. There's a lot to talk about in regard to Comer's investigation. Just the News is now
00:17:37.720 reporting on a new dimension into the Biden crime family and their corruption. Tell us about it.
00:17:43.620 This is all the great work of James Comer, Jim Jordan, Senators Chuck Grassley and Ron Johnson.
00:17:48.940 If anything, Johnson and Grassley are in the minority, but they get more done on investigations than
00:17:53.340 the Democratic majority. They keep pushing forward. They're relentless. And what we're beginning to see,
00:17:58.660 there's two things going on. One of them you and I have covered really well. That is that the size
00:18:03.640 of the Biden family influence peddling scheme in the world was much larger. Foreign countries,
00:18:09.460 tens of millions of dollars, and a dozen family members. We're up to a dozen family members
00:18:13.640 that apparently were in on it, according to James Comer. So the size of the corruption is bigger and
00:18:18.880 worse than we ever imagined when I started reporting on this with the little Ukraine stories in Burisma back
00:18:24.220 in 2019. But while that's going on, we're getting, for the first time, a very clear portrait of a
00:18:31.940 protection racket, of a censorship racket, of an effort to hide from the American public the truth
00:18:37.660 of what the Biden family was doing. And it goes so far as to perhaps involve false testimony to
00:18:45.840 Congress. Ron Johnson, Chuck Grassley yesterday put out some amazing evidence. So back in 2020,
00:18:51.120 when people were starting to scratch at Hunter Biden, and we were told that's a conspiracy theory,
00:18:54.800 that's Russian disinformation. We know that's not true now. Anthony Blinken, about to become the
00:19:00.060 Secretary of State, gave some testimonies like, hey, I never had any contacts with Hunter Biden.
00:19:04.480 I met once with him to mourn Beau Biden, the president's son's passing. We didn't talk business.
00:19:09.900 I never emailed him. I never called him. There were no contacts between us. And with the relentless
00:19:15.160 work of Grassley and Johnson, they came back and said, well, guess what we found? We found emails to
00:19:19.860 Hunter Biden from you, text messages from Hunter Biden. And oh, Hunter Biden was communicating to
00:19:24.300 you through you, your wife, meaning Blinken's wife, who also worked at the State Department.
00:19:29.500 You gave us false testimony. And yesterday they demanded he preserve all the records of his
00:19:34.920 contacts with Hunter Biden. They said, we can no longer trust your word at this. So now we want
00:19:39.560 the documents. You must turn them over to the Senate. On the House, the same, the House Republicans
00:19:45.200 who have subpoena authority, they're going to target the same documents. Anthony Blinken's in
00:19:50.460 the hot seat, not just because of the letter that he was involved in with Mike Murrell, which we talked
00:19:55.640 about the last time we were together, but now because he may have given false testimony. And that false
00:20:00.040 testimony gave the perception that Hunter Biden wasn't doing anything at the State Department. He
00:20:04.940 wasn't trying to help clients at the State Department. We now know that to not be true. And Anthony
00:20:10.580 Blinken is part of that cover up racket in Republicans' minds. Another big angle. Last
00:20:16.280 night, Congressman Perry, Scott Perry of Pennsylvania, very important voice in the House
00:20:20.800 these days. He said, listen, I'm convinced that the Justice Department, the Biden Justice
00:20:24.600 Department, allowed the statute of limitations to expire on some of the offenses that Hunter
00:20:29.860 Biden could be charged with going back to 2014. He references an email I made public two years ago
00:20:35.640 where Hunter Biden's told you didn't pay your money on Ukraine. Burisma income, $400,000 you
00:20:41.620 didn't declare. It's three years later, Hunter, you better start paying up. That's called tax evasion,
00:20:46.320 tax avoidance. And that's not on the table right now. Scott Perry said, I want everybody in Congress
00:20:51.440 to start asking, did they let the statute of limitations expire so the Biden family could avoid
00:20:56.680 an embarrassment and a legal consequence, another part of that protection racket?
00:21:00.360 Yeah, and a great question it is. And this is a great moment to take a quick break for our
00:21:07.700 sponsors, John. You're intimately familiar with this architecture. We're talking with John Solomon,
00:21:17.540 Just the News. We're coming right back with him and much more. Stay with us.
00:21:23.520 We're back with Just the News, John Solomon and John talking about the dimensions of the Biden
00:21:29.360 crime family and all that is now in question about Tony Blinken and talking about going back all the
00:21:37.060 way to 2014, the statute of limitations. And it's important. That's an important year because that
00:21:44.740 year, 2014, we also know it was the Obama administration. We know that many of those in the
00:21:54.080 51, the infamous 51 letter from the intel community. Many of them were working in the Obama administration
00:22:01.580 at that time. And how much the question has to arise, how much did President Obama know? And how in the
00:22:11.420 world could they have done all of that with five former CIA directors, 51 intel veterans, at the behest of
00:22:19.180 Mike Burrell, the to be the acting director of CIA, Tony Blinken, who was serving as deputy secretary
00:22:27.020 of state? They had to have clearance from that administration, that White House, that Obama
00:22:33.140 White House, don't you think? Listen, it's impossible for a president to have this level of a scheme being
00:22:40.560 run by his vice president's family without someone detecting without the CIA picking it up, without the
00:22:46.480 State Department picking it up, without whispers in the community. So of course, Barack Obama must have
00:22:52.300 looked the other way. This is a man who came into office in 2009, promising to have the most ethical
00:22:57.620 administration in history. I think the legacy of the Biden family scheme is going to stain any promise
00:23:05.180 that Obama made. And I want to point out one piece of evidence that I recently obtained. I obtained this
00:23:10.980 in about the last year, made it public a few months ago, but it goes right to foreknowledge.
00:23:15.280 Remember, during impeachment, we were told, all right, Joe Biden did do the he did fire the
00:23:20.160 prosecutor, but that wasn't because of his son. And his son really didn't impact US policy. That turns
00:23:25.600 out not to be true. There is a famous email I have now obtained in which George Kent, he was the guy
00:23:31.160 with the bow tie during President Trump's first impeachment hearing. He was one of the Democrat star
00:23:37.360 witnesses in a private email that was classified. It didn't need to be classified, but it was classified to
00:23:43.200 hide it in a private email to the ambassador, a US ambassador in Ukraine, Marie Ivanovich, another one
00:23:50.120 of the star witnesses at that Ukraine impeachment. George Kent wrote to Marie Ivanovich, someone should
00:23:55.740 tell Joe Biden, this is as the Obama administration was leaving office, someone should tell Joe Biden,
00:24:02.020 his son undercut all of our anti-corruption activities in Ukraine. That was hidden from the
00:24:07.320 impeachment team. President Trump's lawyers didn't get that email back in 2019. But it's so powerful.
00:24:12.880 What does it tell you? Obama's own State Department knew what Hunter Biden was doing. It knew it had
00:24:17.840 a negative consequence on the Obama foreign policy. And that's the fact that that got hidden for two or
00:24:23.340 three years. Another piece of evidence that what a lot of the lawmakers in the House are now saying
00:24:29.260 is a protection racket. Another thing kept under wraps. So we wouldn't know the full extent of the
00:24:35.060 Biden family's corruption and its impact on American policy.
00:24:40.020 The and that's and that's fascinating. And it's as you say, it's important talking about for knowledge
00:24:47.280 of what is happening. And you and I have some personal experience with the former ambassador of
00:24:53.400 Ukraine. And we were amongst those who they wanted to know more about, weren't we? I guess
00:25:00.560 it's a nice way to put that. They were targeting our social media improperly. They weren't allowed
00:25:05.040 to monitor, but they did anyways. And that monitoring word I thought was fascinating at the time.
00:25:09.920 Let's let's let's let's turn to again this administration. Merrick Garland has a hand in so
00:25:18.920 much that is going on and a quiet fellow. We thought of him as a sort of an avuncular
00:25:24.800 and thoughtful Supreme Court justice potential nominee. It's just he has turned out to be a
00:25:35.520 partisan activist of the highest order and certainly a a capo, if you will, for the Biden White House.
00:25:44.640 Yeah, I think that is one of the big concerns that folks have right now. And I think in this moment
00:25:51.840 where Republicans have a real chance to get us to some very deep hidden truths, truths that were
00:25:57.820 deprived of the American people in the 2020 election. There's a line in the Jim Jordan letter
00:26:03.860 that he sent to Antony Blinken last week that I really think gets at the sixty four thousand dollar
00:26:09.820 impact of what happened in 2020 by hiding the laptop as Russian disinformation, by calling the
00:26:16.180 Hunter Biden story a conspiracy theory when it was not. The American people were deprived of making an
00:26:21.780 informed decision about who they wanted to be to be their next president. And they were told
00:26:26.820 Joe Biden was clean and all these allegations were a dirty trick. And it was the other way around.
00:26:30.900 He had a dirty situation in his family and they were lying to us. This moment to tip that so that
00:26:37.340 it can't be mistaken in the 2024 election is right among us. But there are people still sitting in
00:26:44.360 the way. They've got their feet out. They've got their little trip lines up trying to trip up and
00:26:49.000 keep us from getting the truth. We have to bowl over those blockades right now and get the American
00:26:55.360 people the full truth so that in 2024, no matter who the nominees are, we have a clear picture of
00:27:01.320 who the two candidates are and what they've really done in their careers as politicians.
00:27:06.720 Well, Joe Biden, for one, has much to atone for. And we now know that he lied in that debate.
00:27:14.800 We know that Bill Barr, the attorney general for President Trump, knew he was lying and chose to do
00:27:22.620 nothing while choosing to send out FBI agents to the social media and big tech companies for the
00:27:30.420 for the specific purpose of suppressing conservative voices. We know so much. And but the public doesn't
00:27:39.860 share that knowledge because it's almost impossible to get all of that out to 300 million Americans.
00:27:46.280 And listen, Bill Barr has a distinguished career as a lawyer, but I think his legacy as the Trump
00:27:52.160 attorney general will be looked about and say, listen, he aided and abetted whether willingly or
00:27:57.820 unwittingly in several really troublesome episodes. And just remember the censorship machinery that was
00:28:06.500 set up by the FBI in the summer and fall of 2020 out in San Francisco run by an FBI agent named Elvis
00:28:14.740 Chan that was literally sending requests to Twitter every day saying, you might want to cancel this
00:28:19.820 post. You might want to censor this post because it doesn't meet your terms of service. Now, the FBI
00:28:25.500 has no legal authority to enforce the terms of service for Twitter. It was it was an excuse for
00:28:30.340 censorship that occurred when the FBI was under the command of Attorney General William Barr.
00:28:36.280 These are things that Barr has not yet been asked to answer for. But did he know about it?
00:28:40.940 Why didn't he know about it? If you were in charge, you take a look at that spring, summer and fall
00:28:46.420 of 2020. And the FBI and the Justice Department was acting in ways that were contrary to American
00:28:52.620 values and contrary to our promise that we don't let the government interfere in elections.
00:28:58.800 United States spies, United States spies, not Russian spies, not Chinese spies, not North Korean spies or
00:29:04.600 Iranian spies. U.S. spies put their finger on the scale of the election in 2020 when they put that
00:29:10.100 letter out. When the FBI was sending censorship requests to the big tech companies under the
00:29:16.180 color of law, they were putting their thumb on the scale, too. When they kept the word of Hunter
00:29:20.920 Biden's laptop and the criminal investigation that was ongoing from all of us, they deprived us from
00:29:26.200 making an informed decision. And all of that came under the command of Attorney General Barr.
00:29:31.360 That is something that he has yet to be asked about. I hope I get a chance to interview him one day
00:29:35.480 because these are important questions for him to answer. What did he know? When did he know it?
00:29:39.680 And if he didn't know it, should he have known it?
00:29:43.620 Well put. And by the way, my phone call is in to Mr. Barr's office as well, because I would like to
00:29:51.700 know a great deal, just as you would, about what he was thinking, why he conducted himself as he did.
00:29:58.440 Why, a month after the election of 2020, did he say that there had been absolutely no voter fraud
00:30:07.700 in the country when there was no FBI investigation or Justice Department investigation whatsoever to
00:30:14.180 base that statement on?
00:30:15.640 Well, let's remember something that came public a year later, but it was on Bill Barr's watch that
00:30:20.200 it was detected. There are two Iranian nationals who were charged in November 2021, but this case was
00:30:27.520 actually cracked in the summer of 2020. Two Iranian nationals who were accused of meddling in the U.S.
00:30:34.080 election in a significant way, targeting Republicans specifically, a foreign influence operation
00:30:39.540 in the United States. Bill Barr couldn't have said what he said if he knew about that case. And we know
00:30:44.620 that that case was briefed. And in addition, we also know that a foreign power actually stole 100,000
00:30:51.700 voter IDs from a state. We don't know the state, but they stole them and they used those IDs to try to
00:30:56.800 influence the election. Those two things alone, which are now irrefutable, they're public,
00:31:01.720 are clear evidence of problems in the election. And Bill Barr didn't acknowledge either before he left
00:31:06.980 office.
00:31:08.140 And a reminder to everyone, the election of 2020 was a close one. Three states decided by fewer than
00:31:17.340 45,000 votes cumulatively. We're going to also take a look at another thing that happened in that
00:31:24.120 election as we continue with John Solomon of Just the News, another interesting and disturbing
00:31:31.260 development from the Cyber and Infrastructure Security Agency. We'll take that up next. These
00:31:39.400 words from our sponsor. Please stay with us. We're back with John Solomon. And I want to turn John
00:31:46.360 to, as I suggested, the Agency for Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security, who came out within
00:31:54.880 just a matter of days after the election in 2020 to say it was a perfect election. There was just no
00:32:01.920 problem whatsoever. We found out later. We found out later in 2021, in the spring of 2021,
00:32:13.260 that they had made an overstatement. In fact, going forward then to 2022, we saw the Halderman report,
00:32:22.800 which was the most exhaustive and I think most credible report done by the University of Michigan,
00:32:30.400 Professor Alex Halderman, of the election in Georgia. And he determined that there were a number
00:32:38.820 of vulnerabilities, at least nine, and that no one could speak to whether or not those vulnerabilities
00:32:45.060 and those electronic voting machines had been exploited. And this was after, a year and a half
00:32:52.080 after the election. We know that. But we couldn't get access to that report. And the reason is a federal
00:33:00.840 judge in Atlanta has it under seal. Your thoughts about that and the way in which it might have
00:33:08.160 contributed to some further troubling concerns about the election of 2020.
00:33:13.820 Yeah. So, listen, it's, again, I don't know yet that we have any evidence whatsoever that votes ever were
00:33:21.700 changed by a machine. But the idea that these machines were perfect, nothing is perfect in America.
00:33:26.700 There are human flaws and there are technical flaws that always affect us. And I encourage people to go to
00:33:32.820 CISA.gov, C-I-S-A.gov, and find this. There is a report. It was put out June 3rd, 2022. And it says,
00:33:40.880 Vulnerabilities Affecting Dominion Voting Systems ImageCast X. And it's a report that just says,
00:33:47.980 hey, to all people who use these machines, we are aware of this vulnerability. Get it fixed.
00:33:53.260 That occurred on the government's watch. And it was, these are vulnerabilities that apparently
00:33:58.280 existed for a while. They weren't detected until the summer of 2022. Now, let me tell you about
00:34:03.020 something that happened in October of 2020. Not in doubt, Dominion confirmed it to us,
00:34:08.520 the Fulton County, Georgia elections people confirmed it to us because they turned over
00:34:13.840 the documents to us under an open record request. Going into the election with a large turnout and
00:34:18.960 large early turnout in Georgia, this was one of the largest early turnout votes that Georgia had
00:34:24.240 ever experienced. About two weeks before election day, Dominion put out a warning to some of the people
00:34:32.320 that use their machines, including in Georgia, saying, hey, the cards that we put in these machines
00:34:37.140 have a limitation. They can only count up to about 10,000 votes. So if you've got a busy,
00:34:41.860 busy precinct and you might exceed 10,000 votes, you got to crack into the machine, take the card
00:34:47.180 out, put a second card in. And we recommend you do that before election day so that you don't have
00:34:52.100 delays on election day. Now, understand the concern, understand the instruction. In Fulton County,
00:34:58.120 according to the records that were actually released to us, these things were just pulled out of
00:35:02.160 the machine and thrown into a drawer. There was no security, no chain of custody. It was sort of a
00:35:06.860 haphazard way of dealing with a technical advisory that came from Dominion. Now, does that mean there's
00:35:11.700 some grand conspiracy? No. Does it mean that we didn't have the perfect system in place? We weren't
00:35:16.620 aware to the end of some data limitations to machines? We didn't have best practices to ensure
00:35:22.320 the chain of custody of cards that held Americans' vote totals on them. We didn't. And so when people
00:35:28.800 talk about the 2020 election and they called it perfect, that clearly wasn't the case. We had
00:35:33.380 Iranian intervention. We had hacking of voter data bases. We had these warnings about the machines.
00:35:40.220 Again, that's some grand conspiracy, just things that we should have a better handle on. And the longer
00:35:45.980 we deny these things happen, the longer we don't address them, the longer we allow distrust in the
00:35:51.440 elections to occur or a future crisis to occur that we could potentially prevent now. And I think now
00:35:57.300 at this moment, people are looking at that and trying to, I think there is a genuine effort now
00:36:03.060 that the temperatures come down to start to look at these things and come up with rational solutions.
00:36:08.520 You don't have to throw everything out. You don't have to throw the baby in the bathwater out, but
00:36:11.500 hey, there are always going to be vulnerabilities. Let's close them and be smarter and be honest
00:36:15.900 about them. Something we weren't allowed to be in 2020. Yeah. Absolutely. And the reason I brought it
00:36:23.240 up is not to relitigate Dominion. I've had quite enough of litigation. Thank you very much. But my
00:36:31.140 purpose in this is to do what I wanted to do at the outset, which is inspire an investigation of every
00:36:38.620 aspect of that election. And what I've heard people say is that it's settled. That was a great
00:36:45.460 election that was perfect. There was no, these irregularities, these anomalies, these vulnerabilities
00:36:51.740 are real relevant because the result was pristine and settled. That was the reality. It is not the
00:36:59.900 reality. And this country needs to go into an in-depth investigation with the proper agencies and the
00:37:07.200 proper representatives of the American people to make certain that we know in the very short time,
00:37:13.360 we've got, what, a year and a half now before we're facing another election. It's got to happen
00:37:17.820 soon. And neither this administration nor, frankly, the Republican leadership on Capitol Hill has been
00:37:24.560 willing to say, we've got to get to the bottom of it and put this before the American people. Instead,
00:37:29.320 they're treating this condescension, this, if you will, this slur against the American people through
00:37:36.080 condescension saying, you know, you're not mature enough, you're not adult enough, you're not in any
00:37:43.020 way responsible enough to know what the problems are and how we need to fix them. It's infuriating
00:37:49.340 to me. The public's right to know is just being destroyed by both parties.
00:37:54.760 And we knew, listen, it's not possible to have a perfect election. We are going to have mistakes and
00:37:59.400 nothing's perfect. Not being able to address that or to have a fake storyline that just,
00:38:04.780 everything was hunky-dory when people went to a voting machine or went to a voting precinct and saw
00:38:10.540 a problem that alarmed them while the observers weren't allowed to see things. Well, that's a
00:38:15.120 problem. Well, the machine, the ballots were printed the wrong size, like Maricopa County went to.
00:38:19.780 All of these are mistakes that if you acknowledge them, you can fix them so they're not repeated.
00:38:23.680 But there's been a political narrative controlled by a few to not allow us to have a debate and fix
00:38:31.580 these things. And that's bad for America. Someday this will come around and haunt Democrats just like
00:38:35.820 it's haunted Republicans. And that's no better than it is now. We got to have an honest debate.
00:38:40.860 And there are some states having it, right? Texas, Florida doing things to Georgia, I think,
00:38:45.660 made some improvements. There are states that are stepping into the void and doing this. And I think
00:38:51.100 there's a moment ahead, Lou, I'm going to put everybody's calendar. Let's put a mark on the
00:38:56.340 calendar for June of this year, because I think the Supreme Court will decide the North Carolina
00:39:01.320 Republican Party case. This could be a very significant change in how elections are dictated,
00:39:10.040 the rules by which people will vote in the future. The founding fathers gave the means times and
00:39:15.820 way of voting specifically to the legislatures. And over the last many decades, that system's evolved
00:39:24.120 so that the courts have a say in it when it comes to things like redistricting. And the governor has
00:39:29.460 a say in it, though the governor's not mentioned the Constitution. If a legislature passes a law like
00:39:34.240 Republicans did in Wisconsin and the Democratic governor doesn't like it, he can just simply veto it
00:39:39.520 and the will of the legislature has been thwarted. If the North Carolina reapportionment case, which
00:39:45.780 has already been heard, and there was a lot of skepticism of the role the courts and the governor
00:39:50.740 played in North Carolina, if this Supreme Court rules that the legislative power to determine the means
00:39:57.880 of elections is absolute, meaning courts and governors can't get involved, while that's about
00:40:04.400 apportionment. Its implications for the 2024 election are significant. There are states like North
00:40:10.220 Carolina, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania that have Republican legislatures and Democratic governors
00:40:15.120 who've been blocking the will of those legislatures to make changes to the integrity systems of those
00:40:20.340 states. If the Supreme Court determines that the legislative authority to determine electoral decisions
00:40:26.480 are the legislatures solely, the courts and the governors can't get involved. These Republican
00:40:32.560 legislatures can do things that their Democratic governors and their courts have prevented them
00:40:37.580 from doing. We could see a lot more election integrity, by the way, just a lot more election
00:40:42.540 common sense get enacted in states where we've had some of the silliest episodes in recent history.
00:40:48.140 I'd really put a mark on that moment. That case in the Supreme Court could be epic and important
00:40:53.100 going forward.
00:40:53.700 I want to turn to some other news, John, that you have for us. You have a new book out,
00:40:58.720 a children's book. Tell us how John Solomon, editor-in-chief, came to be writing a children's
00:41:06.440 book.
00:41:06.980 I'm still pinching myself thinking I did it, but because of the great people at Brave Books who
00:41:12.280 are the answer to all the woke books today and the libraries, the scholastic books, all of the stuff
00:41:18.140 that's getting into our libraries and our school systems, they've created a pro-God, pro-America
00:41:22.700 message for parents who want an alternative. And they approached me and, you know, we talked over
00:41:27.120 some ideas and I said, listen, there's something that's been bothering me for the last couple
00:41:31.060 of years. I didn't know what was going on. My children are older, so I haven't been engaged
00:41:35.100 in the school system for about a decade. But there's one or two generations of young adults
00:41:39.680 that have gone through the school system in the last 10, 15, 20 years who weren't given
00:41:44.320 the civics lessons that we all had, who weren't told of why America is great, why the Bill of
00:41:49.880 Rights was so essential to the American experience, why the First Amendment was first. In fact,
00:41:54.320 I learned from talking to some of these young adults, including some that came to my news
00:41:57.980 and to work for me, that they were actually told by their educators that in some circumstances,
00:42:03.740 government-backed censorship could be good for the larger collective, whatever the heck
00:42:08.340 that's supposed to mean. Now, I thought America was supposed to be about the individual liberty
00:42:11.820 that we have, but I was appalled when I heard this. I realized if I ever get an opportunity,
00:42:17.660 I want to do something to give parents and grandparents, aunts and uncles, a chance to counter this
00:42:23.480 message in schools. And so when they approached me, I said, listen, I know what I want to do.
00:42:26.740 I want to talk about free speech. And they were all for it. And we've created this incredible book.
00:42:32.860 It's got all the things that children between the ages of four and 11 need. They've got
00:42:37.240 a detective dog. It's got my son's hamster. And I'll tell you a story about him in a second.
00:42:43.520 The hamster chunk publishes a newspaper and he can't get his newspaper out to the public and warn
00:42:49.540 them that there's an impending flood in the hamster community because a mean old koala bear
00:42:54.580 named Carl, yes, he is modeled after Carl Marks, clogged the tubes in the hamster village. Yes,
00:43:01.180 this is what you got to do to do a children's book. He clogs the tubes in the hamster village
00:43:07.040 and the newspaper can't get out. Now, of course, the tubes are an allegory for what we just experienced
00:43:11.980 with big tech, with social media. But we bring it down to a kid's level. The artistry is beautiful.
00:43:17.160 The story is really fun. But at the end, there's a lesson that parents and grandparents can sit with
00:43:22.840 their children and go through and explain why this is important in a larger context.
00:43:26.980 And it's been really rewarding. And I'll tell you how my son's hamster chunk ended up in this book.
00:43:33.000 It's one of my favorite embarrassing moments in life. So my son is autistic. We got him a hamster.
00:43:38.520 He won him a couple of years ago. He loves the hamster. My wife and him went away to go visit some
00:43:42.180 family. And I was left with one mission. Just feed the hamster and don't lose him. And I fed the
00:43:47.400 hamster. But I left the cage open for about a minute too long. And chunk got out. He got I
00:43:52.200 couldn't find him. I was mortified. I'm like, there's going to be heck to pay if I don't find
00:43:55.620 him. I was so desperate. I went to the CVS. I got a stethoscope. And I went along the floorboards
00:44:01.640 until I could locate this guy scratching. I found him in the air conditioning air duct vent. I grabbed
00:44:08.080 him. I put him back in the cage. And I thought, whew, I dodged a bullet. Judy and Josh are never
00:44:12.500 going to know. My assistant told Amanda, had my co-host on television this story. And the next
00:44:18.500 night on television, she told the world that I had lost chunk and found him. And then Judy found out
00:44:23.860 and I was in big trouble. So I decided my way of making amends was to put chunk the hamster in this
00:44:28.680 book. And he turns out to be a fun character for the kids. And I'm just so grateful. Brave Books are an
00:44:35.280 amazing group of young American-loving publishers. And this month, they're going to give my book away
00:44:41.640 free. If you subscribe to their monthly book clubs, you get a book, a pro-America book every month for
00:44:46.360 your children. You'll get my book, Hidden Headlines, free this month. But great people. And one of the
00:44:52.260 most rewarding experiences I've had as a journalist. Well, good for you. And congratulations on the book.
00:44:57.440 Thank you. And I have to say, I'm anxious to see the illustrations as well.
00:45:01.020 They're beautiful.
00:45:01.560 Because the word picture you created there creates a little nostalgia. My wife is sitting
00:45:11.540 about 15 feet away from me. What was the name of Jason's hamster that got loose? Was it was a
00:45:18.840 gimp? Is that the one? What was it? I can't remember the name. We're going back a few years.
00:45:24.700 You had a moment like this too, huh? But it's the only thing I know that my wife is afraid of,
00:45:30.560 and I'm serious about this, are hamsters and mice. Other than that, she is the bravest woman of all.
00:45:37.400 But anyway, great. Congratulations again. We can't wait for it. How can how can folks get the book
00:45:44.080 right now? Can they? Is it ready on Amazon? It is. It's on Amazon. Or the easiest way to go is go to
00:45:49.180 bravebooks.us, bravebooks.us. And there are all sorts of books. Sarah Carter has one out. Sean Spicer has one
00:45:56.160 out. Cash Patel has two out. He's an overachiever. And but there's just great, great books. And all of
00:46:04.980 them teach a pro-America value-based lesson while giving kids a really entertaining story.
00:46:10.800 Well, John, I can't wait to get my hands on it. We've got a few grandkids who will be all over it.
00:46:15.960 John, as you know, we always give our guests the last word here on The Great America Show.
00:46:21.280 Your concluding thoughts, if you will.
00:46:22.980 My last word is just a gratitude of thanks for being able to come on and talk with you every
00:46:28.520 so often. It's a great honor. You have an amazing show and amazing audience. So always an honor to do
00:46:33.400 this. John Solomon, a great American, a reminder to get John's new book, Hidden Headlines, a Seymour
00:46:40.960 Clues mystery, available at ludobbs.com and at Amazon and everywhere else that great books like John
00:46:49.080 Solomon's are sold. That's all for us today. Please join us here tomorrow when our guest will be the
00:46:54.860 former head of Customs and Border Protection, Mark Morgan. We'll be talking, of course, about that
00:47:01.180 flood of illegal immigrants about to pour over our border with Mexico. We hope you'll join us tomorrow
00:47:08.560 for that and more. Until then, thanks, God bless you, and may God bless America.