BIDEN RESTRAINS ISRAEL, PARTNERS WITH IRAN
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In this episode, Lee Smith and I discuss the tensions between China and the Philippines, Ukraine, and Israel, as well as the White House response to a question about more U.S. aid to Ukraine and Israel.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show. Great to have you with us.
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Happy Monday. Hope you had a great weekend, everybody. A lot of tension brewing in Asia
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over the past month, as you've probably noticed. On one side of the continent, the Israeli Hamas
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War and on the eastern side of the continent, China displaying its aggression at levels unseen,
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recently at least. Just last week in the Scarborough Shoal area of the South China Sea,
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a Chinese ship rammed two Philippines Coast Guard resupply boats. The puppet president wasn't amused,
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and he says the United States would go to war if China were to start a conflict with the Philippines.
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Just this past week, the PRC vessels act as dangerously and unlawfully as our Philippine
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friends conducted a routine resupply mission within their own exclusive economic zone in the South
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China Sea. I want to be clear. I want to be very clear. The United States' defense commitment to
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the Philippines is ironclad. The United States' defense agreement with the Philippines is ironclad.
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Any attack on the Filipino aircraft vessels or armed forces will invoke our mutual defense treaty
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with the Philippines. Now, we've heard this rhetoric before from Biden on Taiwan, only to have it walked
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back just hours later by his national security team. But so far, that hasn't happened with the
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Philippine incidents. China ramping up their aggression when a Chinese fighter came within 10 feet of a U.S.
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B-52 bomber flying over the South China Sea, nearly causing an incident. No word yet from the White House
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on that at all. The Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, doing his first TV interview since becoming
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Speaker. And he was asked, of course, about giving more money to Ukraine and Israel. Last week, during
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a press conference, President Biden had said he wanted to lump together aid for both Ukraine and Israel.
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Johnson says, no, there will be no more money for Ukraine in a bundle. He wants stipulations and he
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wants to see where the money is going. I told the staff at the White House today that our consensus
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among House Republicans is that we need to bifurcate those issues. I agree with your assessment in
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Ukraine. And that's why the American people are demanding some real accountability for the use
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of those dollars. Now, we can't allow Vladimir Putin to prevail in Ukraine because I don't believe
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it would stop there. And it would probably encourage and empower China to perhaps make a move on Taiwan.
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We have these concerns. We're not going to abandon them. But we have a responsibility, a stewardship
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responsibility over the precious treasure of the American people. And we have to make sure that the White
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House is providing the people with some accountability for the dollars. So we'll see
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how the more conservative members of the Republican conference respond to this in the House. Most of
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them have been adamant about not sending another dollar to Ukraine. Well, joining us now is author
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and columnist Lee Smith. And Lee, always great to have you with us here on The Great America Show.
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It's good to see you. Give us your sense of what's transpiring right now in the Middle East.
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Yeah, the Biden administration is deploying military assets, both the carrier group.
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And now we're seeing that there are advisors who are being sent to Israel. This is not to help Israel.
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This is to restrain Israel. The purpose of the carrier group specifically was to prevent Israel from
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going after Hezbollah to the north. It's not intended to deter Hezbollah. It's intended to deter
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Israel from striking to the north, as well as taking care of the south, which is Gaza. So this is really
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the Biden administration's project. It's not to help Israel. We see the different messaging that's coming
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out. We see the different things that are going on. We see why Israel has been restrained from
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starting its round invasion of Gaza. I mean, the Biden administration has been delaying it and will
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continue to delay it as long as it can. The Biden administration's goal is to prevent it. And the
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reason for that is really simple. And that is because the Biden administration wants to preserve
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its partnership with Hamas's sponsor, which is the Islamic Republic of Iran. And I think it's very
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important for people to keep this bigger picture in mind. And rightfully, a lot of Americans, at least
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Americans with a soul, are outraged by Hamas's attack on southern Israel, October 7. However, there's a
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bigger strategic picture for us to understand here. And that is the Obama administration. And now the
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Biden administration, full of many of those same Obama officials, perceives that it is in the
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American interest to have a partnership with the Islamic Republic of Iran. And that's why since the
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year 2013, when the Obama administration first started negotiating with Iran over its nuclear weapons
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program, they've made, to this point, hundreds of billions of dollars available to the leading state
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sponsor of terror in the world. The 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, less formally known as the
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Iran nuclear deal, the point of that deal was not to stop Iran from getting the bomb. The point was to
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legalize Iran's nuclear weapons program. Remember, the key to that is the sunset clauses. All the parts that were
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restricting Iran's nuclear activities and other things like weapons purchases, weapons sales, ballistic
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missile development. All these are destined to expire over time, at the end of which Iran will have a nuclear
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weapons program that is fully legal in the eyes of the so-called international community. So that's the bigger
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picture right here. That's what's going on. The Obama, the Biden administration, including the Obama
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officials in the Obama administration, are determined to restrain Israel as long as possible, as much as
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possible, in order for the United States to preserve, for the Biden administration, to preserve its
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partnership with the Islamic Republic of Iran. So that's the bigger picture. That's the bigger picture.
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It's also a picture that you won't see revealed in the national news media, the corporate media,
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the legacy media, whatever you want to call it. And it's important because there is a history here
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that and there is history unfolding as well. And I think you're exactly right about the Obama
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administration and the subsequent Biden administration and the policies they're pursuing.
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President Biden could barely contain himself for the seven hours that he was in Israel,
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wanting to talk about the establishment of a Palestinian state, the two-state solution.
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Oh, yes. And by the way, it was a very bad thing you did to slaughter men, women, children and babies,
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kill 1400 Israelis. It was a remarkable, remarkable event in that you saw him just torn in his rhetoric
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I mean, it's grotesque. And what's worse is that what's worse, again, is that they're restraining
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the Israelis. And again, I say it's not just about the moral outrage that we may and should feel.
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It's also like, actually, Americans who love our country have an interest in that. That's not to say
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that we should be sending U.S. troops. Remember, Israel doesn't want U.S. troops there. Israel perceives
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U.S. troops correctly. Right now, the small number of advisors who are being sent to Israel are not
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there to help Israel win its conflict. They are there to restrain the Israelis on behalf of the Biden
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administration. We, again, as Americans who love our country, right, not as Americans who want a
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partnership with a leading state sponsor of terror, but who love our country, who love our liberties,
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who love freedom. We have an interest in the Israelis destroying Hamas as they swear to do.
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Yeah. So, Lee, how many advisors do we have there? Because we've got reports, Colonel Doug McGregor
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quoted as saying that we had the U.S. special forces go into Gaza, presumably with Israeli special forces.
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And I think his expression was they got cut to pieces. I don't think the American people are aware.
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We've got boots on the ground in Israel and Gaza. I don't think the American people are aware that we
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have got a significant cohort of advisors working with the IDF. And I don't think that people think
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that a three-star Marine general is going to be particularly helpful to the IDF. They have plenty of
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generals with just as much, let me put it this way, they have more experience in winning than does the
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United States over the course of the past 20 years. That's very well, very well put. You may have
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noticed that, you know, Barack Obama tweeted something recently, tweeted a statement, as well as
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he was recommending articles by his former deputy national security advisor for strategic communications,
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Ben Rhodes, as well as another article by Obama, by Obama faction validator, Thomas Friedman.
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Yeah, right. A gifted novelist who found his way into the White House.
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Well, you may have seen what they were doing. This is the new this is part of the messaging
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campaign going out. It's like, well, look, the Israelis don't want to make the mistake that we
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made after 9-11, which is by lashing out in anger. When we go back, as we remember what happened with
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9-11, the problem was not that the Bush administration wanted to demonstrate an overwhelming
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show of force to make it prohibitively costly for American adversaries to ever hit the United
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States again. The problem was when the mission changed from deterrence to democracy promotion.
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And when democracy promotion ruled, rolled in the idea of bringing the freedom agenda to the Middle
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East, that's that was the problem. It was not deterrence. It was democracy promotion. And that's
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what facilitated this enormous boondoggle helped make Washington, D.C. rich. Right. It wasn't just
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the defense contractors. It was State Department contractors, too.
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Well, the history the history is actually very specific and I think favorable to the to the Bush
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administration and not many things in that adventure, if you will, were of credit to the Bush
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administration. But as you know, and as I'm sure you recall vividly, the United States sent special
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forces, the CIA into Afghanistan. They were established there within a matter of about 30 days
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from September 11th. And with with that, their mission was underway and it was an extraordinary
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success. And Afghanistan, in fact, was under the control of the U.S. government is to whatever
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the level you want to talk about that as it would ever be again in the 20 years that followed. It
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was a remarkable, remarkable success. We're talking with Lee Smith. We're talking about the Middle East.
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We're right back with a very high level of talent. And that is Lee Smith. We'll be right back.
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We're back. We're talking with Lee Smith. And as we as we pause for a moment there, I referred to
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the operation in Afghanistan. It was one of the most successful covert operations that the United
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States, I think, has carried out in a long time or since. But the point being that the Obama
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administration has been working against our history and it has been working for nations and
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frankly, ideology that is not aligned with our own. That is the history of the Obama administration.
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It is the legacy of the Biden administration. And we are being played for for fools in my in my
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judgment. And I want yours. Well, no, I think you're absolutely right, Lou. It's not just about
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it's not just about Obama and now Biden's partnership with the Islamic Republic of Iran. It's also about
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Hamas specifically. Now, I've asked people I've asked people just to look at this in terms of let's
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eliminate the let's eliminate the names if we can. And just like a regular war scenario,
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there are two combatants, combatant one and combatant two. Combatant one imposes an embargo
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on necessary goods for combatant two, right? Let's say water, food and energy. Party three steps in
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and clears an opening, provides a corridor for combatant two to get oil, food and water. At the
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same time, party three is making it difficult for combatant one to achieve its war aims, is interfering
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and sabotaging them as much as possible. What does that describe? That describes that party three
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is an enemy of combatant one and an ally of combatant two. And that's exactly what's happening
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right now in Israel. The Biden administration is in support of Hamas. They opened up a quarter,
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a quarter to get oil and food and water into Gaza. And they've restricted the Israelis and they've done
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everything within their power to thwart Israel's war aims. So what you say is exactly right.
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First Obama and now Biden are taking sides with traditional American enemies. It's astonishing.
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Look, I've been working on this for nearly 20, for over 20 years, since even before 9-11. And I
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reported the Iran deal. I reported what Obama was doing with Iran and throughout the region. And even
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for me, this is absolutely shocking. The fact that the Biden administration is, it's not just Iran,
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it's Hamas as well. It is. And I think it's important too, to round out, if you will, a bit
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of a subtext of what you're saying. Here is the military and foreign policy judgment of this
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administration. They moved 155 millimeter howitzer shells out of the forward position,
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as they put it, in Israel to be of use to U.S. military in the Middle East, and of course,
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our Israeli allies. They moved half of the stockpile to Ukraine just a few months ago.
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Yeah. And now are bringing it back to Israel. That's the situation that we're looking at
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when it comes to the judgment, the foreign policy judgment of this administration,
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the military judgment of this administration. I want to tell you, there isn't much that we should
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be calling judgment about either one of those entities, the military or the White House.
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In that same context, I want to talk about the package of aid that the Biden administration has
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come up with. And also, I want to single out, I'm not sure, you know, J.D. Vance, Senator Vance,
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had on his Twitter feed, and I believe that he is keen on separating Ukraine aid from Israel aid,
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which I think is an excellent idea. Because the project of the Biden administration, they understand
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that for conservatives, for people on the right, for people like you and me, we look at Ukraine,
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we look at the Republicans pushing Ukraine as well as the Biden administration, and we think it's
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absolutely monstrous. It's just another boondoggle, and American taxpayer money is being wasted on this.
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The reason the Biden administration wanted to package Israel aid together with Ukraine aid was to make
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Israel as poisonous as Ukraine. So the fact that J.D. Vance is out there separating them,
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or is eager to separate them, tells you that there are Republicans, there are Republican officials,
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there are Republican thought leaders who understand what the Biden administration is up to.
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Yeah, J.D. Vance, I mean, there are a host of Republicans who do not appreciate the fact that they
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did a, if you will, a foreign aid bundle. It's, first of all, it's absolutely asinine to bring those
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things together. They're doing it for obvious reasons. We have less to be concerned about in terms of
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propaganda from the Soviet, Soviet, the Russian, the Russian state, the Chinese state, where the U.S.
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state is coming at us hard in every direction. And it's almost impossible to get a straight answer
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out of the federal government right now. What are your thoughts?
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Well, I think you're absolutely right again, Lou. And I think the most important thing then is,
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look, we have to accept we're not going to, these are the people who set up Russiagate. These are the
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people who set up the lies about January 6th. These are the people who lied about the origins of COVID.
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These are the people who are going to continue to lie and run information operations against us.
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I ask, though, for people on our side, for people who love our country to see things clearly
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and to understand what's happening. Again, the same agencies, the same people who lied about
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everything from Russiagate to January 6th are the same people who are lying about what's happening
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right now in the eastern Mediterranean. So we can't count on any support from the people who
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are now running the White House. These are the same people.
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Lee, I mean, people, they forget so quickly in this country because we're bombarded with so much
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disinformation, propaganda, psyops of every kind being run at us. The ex-CIA chief, John Brennan,
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he said the 51 CIA and other intelligence veterans who in the Biden campaign produced a letter saying that the
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Biden laptop was Russian, Russian disinformation when it was a total lie on the part of our entire
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intelligence apparatus represented by those 51 veterans, including five former CIA directors.
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These are the same people that we that we have to deal with right now.
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We have to sort through this stuff. You and I and as many of us as we can muster have to sit here and figure
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out what the point of the of a presidential administration's disinformation campaign is.
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Then we have to figure out what the heck the military is doing or trying to do.
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I don't know how in the world we survive this. Do you?
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The first thing is to see things clearly. If we keep falling for their disinformation, we are lost.
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I mean, that's a fact. And that's why I'm telling people that's why I'm saying we need to understand
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what's happening in the eastern Mediterranean. Don't fall for the same people who have been
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pushing this garbage. If we don't see things clearly. Right. If we don't understand, if we
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at this point, if seven years after Russiagate, we do not know how to read the ground.
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We don't understand how they've poisoned our information ecosystem. We're lost.
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Right. So that's why people need to see it clearly before we can talk about victory.
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We have to make sure that we're still standing. And insofar as we're falling for their lies,
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falling for their garbage, falling for everything they put out, we're in trouble.
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Lee, you're an American. Americans don't talk about victory anymore.
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Yeah. We talk about the long war doctrine. We visit places. We don't go to war to win.
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We're it's a it's a global terrorism tour on the part of our military and the geniuses who are in
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charge of it, ostensibly, at least we're talking with the great Lee Smith. We're going to continue.
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And we have a perfect segue. When we talk about disinformation, let's talk about the speaker
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race in the House of Representatives, because you talk about disinformation and corruption.
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We're back with Lee Smith. And as as we took a quick break there, we were watching a crazy
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vote in the House of Representatives. Tom Emmer is now the new nominee for the Republican Party
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for for speaker of the House. And how did he get there? He got there by just about the half of the
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number of votes that Jim Jordan got and is suddenly the darling of the Republican Party for the third
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most powerful job in the United States government speaker of the House. And he had, as I said,
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half the votes of Jordan. But somehow those votes of Jordan's weren't as important as the 50 percent
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fewer votes of Tom Emmer. What on earth are they doing, these House Republicans?
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I mean, there's a lot of people who aren't there's a lot of people, first of all, who aren't very bright.
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There's a lot of people and there's a lot of people who aren't on side. And, you know, it's it's become
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something of a cliche at this point. But I believe it's correct. I think that there's a lot of Republicans
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who are very comfortable not winning, who are comfortable losing. Right. And they liken them to the
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Washington Generals, the famous foil of the of the Harlem Globetrotters. You were you were saying
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before talking about victory. I grew up as a New York Yankees fan watching watching Clint Eastwood
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movies. I believe in victory. I believe it's not only possible to win. I believe that winning is a good
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thing. I believe that winning is clarifying. And unfortunately, we have a lot of people right now who are
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unable to see what victory looks like and they don't want victory. And then, of course,
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there are other people who think that victory is working with the other side. The idea that we have
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people on that hill who believe in working with the other side that has worked to imprison
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the Republican base is absolutely shocking. But that's where we are. And again, that's what I mean
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about seeing things clearly, how these people are not seeing clearly, some of them and others do see
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it clearly. And they want to work with these people. Nonetheless, it's it's pretty astonishing.
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I love the remarks by by President Obama criticizing Israel over Gaza. Think about this. Two weeks later,
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two weeks later, he's talking about don't harden Palestinian attitudes for generations by invading
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Gaza. Yes, from a man who didn't say a word initially about the massacre of 1400 Israelis,
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but he doesn't want to harden Palestinian attitudes for generations. You know, the hell with that kind
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of rhetoric. You know, I've been thinking about this a lot. And and I think back, I mean, I was a kid,
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you know, I was a kid when this happened. But it's one of the things that I remember best in my
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childhood, the 1972 Munich Olympics. And, you know, the the the torture and murder of 11 Israeli
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athletes. And then in 1973, Black September, Arafat's organization killed American diplomats in
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Sudan. And then in 1972, in 1974, Yasser Arafat walks into the UN with a gun. And I look back and I see
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that this has been going on for 50 years. It should have been stopped back then. The fact that American
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officials and I know it was chaos in the United States at the time, people were focused on Watergate.
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People were focused on Nixon. People were focused on Vietnam. But the fact that it's gone this far, it shows
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you where we are right now. I mean, the talk of the Palestinians after what's happened, the world should have been
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11 Jews slaughtered in the middle of Germany. And people said two years later, yeah, let him into
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the UN. Let him into the UN. Sure. Let's talk peace with Yasser Arafat. And he comes in with a threat.
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I have a gun and an olive branch. Don't make me drop my olive branch. They should have thrown him in a
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New York City jail at that point. They should have put that guy away. And of course, that's what Rudy
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Giuliani did when when, you know, when when Arafat came back a decade and a half. But I mean,
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the idea it's been going on that long. So right. So you have a former president of the United States
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like Barack Obama, and his big concern is, oh, let's not lose sight of the Palestinian state.
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I mean, it's shocking, but it's been going on for a while. So the question is, are we as a country
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going to find our are we going to relocate, re-identify our moral center? Because that's
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where it's going to start. I'm not even going so far. I appreciate the history. I appreciate
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your your your good hearted aspiration to find the best of us in our nature. We have just watched
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the Republican Party in the House of Representatives run secret votes, secret balloting and secret
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debates among a group of people that the people, the people of this country don't even know.
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I have to tell you, I just don't know where you find the moral center when you've got nothing but
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sulfur for an atmosphere and a foundation that is pure corruption.
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It's it's setting it up for a very look at President Trump has an President Trump has enough
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handicaps. He's been handicapped enough by the Department of Justice, by Joe Biden, by and he's
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been handicapped enough going into the 2024 election cycle.
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And we're listening to a president who is I mean, he's corrupt. He's impaired. He is an absolute
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puppet for the Marxist Dems who run the Dem Party and the deep state is also their master.
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I don't know how we get out from out out from under all of this disinformation, this propaganda that
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we're being hit with the idea that the United States is inches from war, World War Two or
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Three, excuse me, under Biden's leadership. My gosh. And that's Donald Trump talking.
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I know. I wish he wasn't. Again, I understand he's got a very tough he's got an extraordinarily tough
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campaign season ahead of him. But I don't think this is helpful for him to say this. I think what's
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helpful for him to say is what he did when he was in office, he got out of the Iran deal. He spoke
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clearly about Iran. He spoke clearly about the Palestinians. He spoke clearly about the world in
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front of us. The problem is not that Joe Biden is pushing us towards World War Three. The problem is
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that Joe Biden is setting up the leading state sponsor of terror with a nuclear weapon. That's
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the problem. And that the United States is the United States under Joe Biden, as it was under Barack
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Obama, is partnered with these guys. So I certainly hope that President Trump is, you know, again,
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one of the virtues of President Trump, not all the times, but lots of the times, very clear,
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right? And that's so you ask me or you're sometimes you get frustrated with my optimism.
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I see President Trump's clarity. I see the clarity of other Americans who know what's right and wrong.
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I see it on social media all the time. The heart of the country is still there. It understands things
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clearly. So we need to describe everything that we can, whether it's what's happening in the eastern
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Mediterranean, whether it's happening on American streets that were filled with these animals
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supporting Hamas. We need to describe it clearly if it's happening on Capitol Hill, right?
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Not outside, not outside, not people protesting outside, but the Republican members inside the
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Capitol. Lee, we have to have, first of all, people who will fight. And when Donald Trump is talking
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about warnings of World War Three under Biden's leadership, I understand the competitiveness and
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of the presidential race. But the reality is the United States is not only inches from World War Three,
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as he put it, we're squarely staring us in the face, is the fact that we've got hundreds of
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thousands, if not millions of people in this country right now who are supporting Palestinians who are
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murdering Israelis. I don't even begin to understand why that clarity that you're talking about,
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that isn't one of the first statements to be made. We have a president who is absolutely inept
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and corrupt and impaired and people pretend in this country that he's okay. Not even the Marxist
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Dems can say that with a straight face. And yet I see journalists and Republican officials and
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lawmakers walking around talking like everything is fine. We are under a fog of delusion and derangement
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in this country that from which we've got to escape first and learn how to fight. My Lord
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I just wanted to say that these that these things are connected when you're talking about people
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coming across our border during the last three years, maybe up to 10 million people. Right now we
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see. And this is why I believe that that that the invasion of the United States is going to be.
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It was a big campaign issue before. Right. It's big for Donald Trump. But I think after what
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Americans saw, not only in southern Israel, what what what what the third world looks like when
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it's in your face, but then seeing it on our streets as well, seeing the pro Hamas, the pro
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terrorist, the pro murder mobs on our streets. I think that more and more Americans are going to
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come to the realization that if we don't do something about this immediately, then then we're lost.
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I thank you for being here, Lou. Thank you for having me on. As always, I really appreciate it.
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Always great to talk to you. Thanks, everybody, for being with us here today. Our guest tomorrow
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on The Great America Show, the head of Article three project, Mike Davis. Please join us for that
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