House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer produces new evidence of corruption in the White House. Former Commissioner of the Customs and Border Protection Mark Morgan joins us on The Great America Show to discuss the latest on the Biden crime family.
00:10:21.560Lou, you are 100% correct. And this is an element that we do not talk enough about. We talk about
00:10:29.140what's happening on the physical border. Again, I got it for obvious reasons, but we do not talk
00:10:34.360enough about what happens after they're released. And you're absolutely correct. Here's why they keep
00:10:40.640coming. I always say, you don't have to be a border security expert. I know you know this. We've talked a
00:10:44.920lot about this. But if you tell the entire world that if you come to our border, whether you come
00:10:49.860to a lawful point of victory or not, it doesn't matter. We're going to process and release you
00:10:53.640in the interior of the United States. And then you're going to be free from deportation.
00:10:58.940Then, of course, they're going to come. That's what this administration is doing right now.
00:11:02.780So they come illegally, file claims. It doesn't matter. They're processed and released. And then
00:11:07.400they're never removed. This Secretary of Homeland Security, Secretary of America, which I think he's
00:11:11.820the most dangerous man in this administration, he has said that being in a country here illegally
00:11:16.740is not enough to remove you. It's a controversy of the law. He's actually violating the very law
00:11:23.180and the oath that he took to enforce by saying, no, if you're illegally, I'm not going to deport you.
00:11:28.860It's absurd. It's absurd. It's tragic. And it is dangerous. Make no mistake about it, folks.
00:11:36.960We're talking with Mark Morgan, former commissioner of the Customs and Border Patrol,
00:11:40.940talking to us from El Paso, Texas, on the border, ground zero, and what promises to be now a surge
00:11:49.260that will rise to the level of, I'll use your word, Mark, a tsunami. We're going to continue
00:11:54.660with Mark Morgan right after these words. Please stay with us. We're coming right back.
00:12:00.380We're back now talking with Mark Morgan. Mark, we're talking about this just extraordinary
00:12:06.300flood, invasion, if you will. An invasion, if you will, by any other name, this is an invasion.
00:12:14.560$10,000 a day right now to grow to who knows what. What happened to Immigration and Customs
00:12:21.260Enforcement? All of these illegals are being sent into the taxpayer expense to various locations in
00:12:29.440the interior of the United States. That's where ICE lives. They were supposed to be the internal,
00:12:35.800the domestic interior police force. Where are they? And are they doing anything at all?
00:12:44.600They've been completely neutered. And let me address the first point, which is a very important part.
00:12:49.820Again, we don't talk enough about once they're released and then they become a burden on the
00:12:53.980U.S. taxpayer. That's exactly right. FAIR, the Federation of American Immigration Reform,
00:12:58.580just did a recent study a couple months ago, and they estimated, I think it's conservative,
00:13:02.900that illegal aliens cost taxpayers $180 billion every year. $180 billion. That's for health care,
00:13:11.840education, costs associated with the criminal prosecutions. The list goes on and on, Lou. $180
00:13:18.220billion. Now, to your point about ICE, again, I don't think we talked enough about it. Interior
00:13:22.560enforcement. ICE has been completely gutted. DHS Secretary Mayorkas has put out several
00:13:28.340memos. We call them priority memos. And in essence, what it says is that if you come here illegally and
00:13:36.120you remain here in the country illegally, you are not a priority unless you've done something
00:13:42.080egregious, unless you're a known or suspected terrorist, or you've been convicted of a very
00:13:48.060narrow category of aggravated felonies. That's it. Other than that, you're free to stay. And so it's
00:13:54.580very clear he's given the marching orders to ICE. You are not to go after people that are here illegally
00:14:00.280and remove them. Stop doing your statutory mandated job. He's actually telling the men and women that
00:14:06.300statute, as you just described, to not do their job. In addition to that, he's also put out a restrictions
00:14:12.060memo that says, you ICE cannot, they are forbid to go after illegal aliens in certain settings, like
00:14:19.200parades, churches, social settings, you know, like anywhere like a human would, I don't know, conduct
00:14:26.620life. He basically says, nope, can't do it. So ICE, again, has essentially been completely neutered from
00:14:33.680doing their job. So President Biden is ruling as a is without any qualification. Everything he's doing is
00:14:42.500unilateral. None of it confirmed or validated or approved by the Congress, the Senate. This is right now not a
00:14:52.040constitutional republic. Laws are not being enforced. Laws are being violated wholesale. And this administration is doing
00:14:59.220nothing about it. And is opened a 2000 mile border to to illegal immigrants from, as you said, 171 countries. This is why? I
00:15:12.200guess I have to ask it this way. You're in El Paso. Are the people of El Paso upset about this? Because these people are
00:15:18.720flooding through their streets, their their playgrounds, their parks. What what is the sense you get there?
00:15:25.940Yeah. So yes and no. Right. If you talk to somebody that's not infused with ideology or politics, yes, then they are upset because they see the damage and destruction that's happening.
00:15:38.360And I think and I know, again, we talked about this before. And again, this what's happened. Border doesn't just impact border states. I mean, again, let's go to just a 1.7 million gotaways.
00:15:48.200We know that there are murderers, rapists, pedophiles, aggravated felons and gang members.
00:15:51.660We know there are potential national security threats on the FBI's terror screening database, and they don't stay in Brownsville.
00:15:57.540They don't stay in El Paso or they make their way to every town, city and state in this country.
00:16:01.880And so I think if you're able to set aside your ideology in politics, then you're going to be honest.
00:16:08.540But I think this administration, I've served in six administrations, both Republican, Democrat.
00:16:12.760I've never seen an administration that purposely fueled this unbridled convergence of both ideology and politics.
00:16:21.020And I think it's resulted in some of the most disastrous anti-American policies you've ever seen.
00:16:26.480I think the border is just the beginning. But look, you're absolutely right.
00:16:29.160They're they're intentionally not following the law.
00:16:31.720What they're doing right now, some of the policies, it's actually a perversion of the law.
00:16:35.200Secretary Mayorkas is making up new definitions. He's defying the law and creating new law and he's created new mission sets with the Border Patrol.
00:16:43.060They're no longer an enforcement agency. They're a processing enterprise.
00:16:46.480That's not in their statutory mission, but they don't care.
00:16:49.320And that's why we also say that really the states, it's up to them.
00:16:52.620It's not fair. It's not right. But to secure a border, the states now really have become a last line of defense.
00:16:57.500President Biden has surrendered U.S. territory to the cartels.
00:17:03.580He has surrendered a 2,000 mile border to the cartels because in every vacuum there will be a replacement.
00:17:10.360And that replacement, the absence of the Border Patrol, ice in the interior, it's definitely going to be the cartels.
00:17:18.120We're watching this country right now.
00:17:20.780It is just it's just seeping through that southern border.
00:17:25.140We're being drained of our sovereignty and the rule of law and order.
00:17:33.160The country seems to have been so disheartened.
00:17:35.720It's lost its courage and its sense of responsibility to preserve this republic.
00:17:43.180Your thoughts about the apathy and what you expect to be the end result of what is this extraordinary illegal immigration into the United States now and through the rest of this year.
00:17:59.740First, Lou, I'll tell you, I just wrote something down.
00:18:01.460You said I'm going to steal it because you're absolutely right.
00:18:03.500I think it's absolutely the best way to say it, that because of this administration's open border policies, we have surrendered large areas that are boarded to the cartels.
00:18:13.240That is a factual statement, Lou, that you're absolutely correct.
00:18:16.720And I'm actually going to steal that going forward because that's exactly what's happened.
00:18:19.660But when you when you when your policies create the tsunami, this invasion of illegal aliens, again, that forces everything that you do to just focus on that, that becomes your total focus.
00:18:33.140So the law enforcement mission just goes by the wayside and all they're doing now is care and feeding and releasing the illegal aliens, literally leaving the large area of the border, unpatrolled, unmanned, unsecured.
00:18:45.560And you have literally surrendered large areas over to the cartels.
00:18:49.060I call it you provide them operational control.
00:18:52.700And that's why that's how they get drugs across criminals and potential national security threats.
00:18:57.120And at the end of the day, this is unsustainable.
00:19:08.040And here's what I'm afraid of, Lou, is I'm afraid that to wake Americans up in this country, that it's going to take a massive, large scale terrorist attack by terrorists coming across our wide open southwest border before anybody gives a damn.
00:19:22.240And those terrorists arguably are already here.
00:19:26.020There is a reason that young, working age males are coming across in preponderance.
00:19:34.940Most nearly all of these so-called refugees and illegal immigrants are male.
00:19:58.000We're back with Mark Morgan, who is the former commissioner of the Customs and Border Protection and responsible for that border for a number of years.
00:20:08.200Let's go to these young males who are coming across.
00:20:12.480My wife and I, at various times on the road, have seen these buses come up, unloaded, a truck stop, and off comes, in perfect file, young male Hispanics who are going into the cafe or to the restrooms, whatever it may be.
00:20:51.540So right now, we've got about a 50-50 percent, give or take a couple percentage points, of family units and unaccompanied minors and then single adults, about a 50-50 split.
00:21:05.740Here's why we're seeing this massive uptick in single adults is because this administration, traditionally, single adults were the ones we would detain and remove.
00:21:15.040Even if they claim asylum, a single male, you were going to be detained while you were going through your immigration proceeding, or the majority of them, we just removed.
00:22:28.200Think about how many are among the 1.7 million gotaways that are on the FBI's terror screening database.
00:22:34.800It is legit, it's not hyperbolic to say we literally could have the next sleeper cell planning the next large-scale terrorist attack in our country, and we would have no idea because of our wide-open borders.
00:22:46.800And meanwhile, we are watching ATF, I'll call it Tobacco Firearms.
00:22:53.020That agency is being turned into a first-response agency.
00:22:57.140We are watching the same thing happen with the FBI.
00:23:00.300Suddenly, they've got to be on the scene of a crime immediately.
00:23:02.980There's been a whole shift on the part of the federal government toward making these agencies, federal police agencies, and first responders, hasn't there?
00:23:14.920Well, so one great word that you use, reaction, right?
00:23:19.900And, I mean, it's literally like, you know, our country is not studying history, so we don't repeat it.
00:23:26.5609-11, we went from after 9-11, rightfully so, we went nationally across from all our law enforcement entities, both state, local, and federal.
00:23:35.780We went from a reactive law enforcement to a preventative, proactive national security approach, right?
00:23:42.300So instead of just getting better at reacting to the crisis, right, shouldn't we get better at proactively preventing the crisis?
00:23:59.360We're managing the crisis after it's already happened rather than preventively, proactively stopping the crisis from happening.
00:24:07.500And that's exactly what's happening on our border.
00:24:08.860This administration, they're not doing anything to lay down a strategy that we did on the Trump administration of deterrence, consequences, integrity.
00:24:16.360They're doing nothing to secure the border.
00:24:17.720They're simply facilitating it and releasing as fast as human possible.
00:24:21.760They're reacting to it rather than preventing it.
00:24:24.740As those folks flood across, and I'm going back to the outset of our discussion, how many, we're talking about 10,000 now under the current crisis, how bad do you think it will get?
00:24:38.380How incremental, how large an incremental surge are we going to see in your judgment?
00:25:37.820And so when they kind of realize, no, they're not letting in everybody, they're still removing, like, for example, single adult Mexican males, you'll probably see that go back down a little bit.
00:25:48.840But keep in mind, Lou, I mean, even if we see this surge and we don't know how long it will be sustained, even if it goes back down, what's it going to go back down to, 6,000 a day?
00:26:01.300I mean, remember, Jay Johnson, the former DHS Secretary, Donald Obama, said 1,000 a day was a bad day.
00:26:07.960We've been at 6,000, 7,000 for the past 25 months.
00:26:11.360Yeah, it's unbelievable what's happening at that border.
00:26:15.240And it's unbelievable the lack of a response by the American public.
00:26:19.860Folks, you know, I've just got to say to everybody listening, I never thought we'd see a day in this country where there was no reaction.
00:26:28.080No outrage, no response on the part of the American people to a surge.
00:26:35.460I mean, we're talking about three to five million people a year entering this country illegally at the behest of a puppet, an impaired puppet president.
00:26:46.020And there is no reaction from the leadership of the Republican Party.
00:26:50.060There's none from, if you will, the grassroots that is the citizenry of this great nation.
00:26:57.140But, Lou, again, I could have said better myself.
00:27:00.180I'll give you an example, a real-world example just a few days ago.
00:27:03.260We had an individual that was in the country illegally, multiple reentries, living a life of luxury illegally because he knows under this administration he can now roam openly because being in a country illegally is not enough to remove you.
00:27:17.600And he fucking murders and assassinates five people, including the nine-year-old girl.
00:27:41.960We're not messaging a right to the American people in Missouri or Vermont or wherever why it matters to them, why what happens to our border doesn't stay there, why it jeopardizes the safety and security of every single state in our country.
00:28:32.400And you know, Lou, I spent 20 years in the FBI.
00:28:34.280I worked with the DEA a lot, so I'm still partial to the rank and file, and they're trying.
00:28:37.600But again, it goes back to the leadership.
00:28:39.860As long as we continue to go through and act the traditional criminal prosecutorial approach going after the cartels, we will continue to fail just like we have for decades.
00:28:50.360We cannot go after the cartels like we do the mafia.
00:29:04.640We have to take the fight to the cartels to defeat them.
00:29:07.140We know the government of Mexico, they don't have the political will, and now they don't have the capability to go it alone against the cartels.
00:29:13.280We need to use the same whole-of-government approach and commitment and resources that we go after terrorist organization.
00:29:20.600In my opinion, that includes the use of military force.
00:29:23.460Now, it needs to be surgical and precision, and hopefully with the cooperation of Mexico.
00:29:27.780But last time I checked, we don't need the cooperation of a country to go and defeat an enemy that's jeopardizing every aspect of our nation's safety, health, and national security.
00:29:37.020And we're going to have to wait until after the next presidential election to have any hope of that occurring, don't you think?
00:29:44.620Your concluding thoughts here, if you will, Mark.
00:29:47.080We always give our guests the last word.
00:29:49.640I just hope that when people are listening here, they take a few minutes to set aside their ideology, set aside their politics, just do a few minutes of research, get the truth and the facts.
00:29:59.680Because I truly believe if every American citizen understood the death and destruction that's happened at our southwest border and how it impacts our entire country's safety, national security, everybody would be up for a strong border.
00:30:12.840It's not just about Americans dying, as you described, but also migrants.
00:30:16.360There have been more dead migrants found under this administration, an increase in human trafficking due to this administration's policies.
00:30:22.260So when we secure our border, American lives are saved, and so are the lives of migrants.
00:30:26.020Mark Morgan, the former head of Customs and Border Protection, now at the Heritage Foundation.
00:30:31.500Mark, we're delighted you took some time to be with us.