The Great America Show - BIDEN WH COLLAPSES, GOP 2022 GAINS LIKELY

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America Podcast with Lou Dobbs,

00:00:04.200 always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.

00:00:09.220 And now, here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.

00:00:14.740 Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Great America Show. We thank you for joining us.

00:00:18.940 I'm the only show dedicated to truth, justice, and the American way exclusively.

00:00:23.920 There's a lot of rough, tough talk swirling these days, what with Vladimir Putin talking tough,

00:00:30.120 Chinese President Xi making it clear he is the dictator for life, and, well, the United States

00:00:36.620 better get used to the idea that President Biden will be having the last word on just about everything,

00:00:43.920 telling unvaxxed and anti-vaxxed Americans they're looking at not only a long, cold winter,

00:00:50.140 but they'll also be getting really, really sick and maybe die, maybe probably die.

00:00:56.560 At least Dr. Fauci is enjoying all of this. And no one can blame Donald Trump this time.

00:01:01.920 It's the Joe Biden show now, and he and his vice president are truly the lousiest leaders in

00:01:07.120 American history. Don't you think? What a mess this administration is. The China virus is raging.

00:01:13.560 You know, the one that he said was just about over. And the economy appears to be slowing,

00:01:18.620 and the stock market, well, let's call the stock market just confused for right now.

00:01:23.320 To bring order, light, peace, and understanding to all of us now, we've invited none other than

00:01:28.340 our good friend, Mark Simone, great broadcaster, radio legend, podcaster without peer, great American,

00:01:35.320 and number one on WOR, New York City. Here now, the tireless man of many talents, Mark Simone.

00:01:43.180 Mark, great to have you with us.

00:01:44.840 I don't know, I'm kind of tired.

00:01:46.020 Was that a response to the length of your introduction?

00:01:52.440 Oh, I was listening to the introduction. I'm wondering who the hell could this be? I didn't

00:01:55.580 think it was me. It sounded so good.

00:01:59.200 It's all in the voice, Mark. You know that. It's all in the voice.

00:02:03.680 It's great to have you here.

00:02:04.960 I remember back when it was becoming 2021. Everybody said, thank God 2020 is over.

00:02:12.840 That was a terrible year. I'm glad 2021 is over.

00:02:17.700 Yeah. Well, and it got so much better, didn't it, as the year progressed.

00:02:23.200 You notice Donald Trump was responsible for every single American who died in 2020, right?

00:02:29.400 And more Americans died in 2021 of the China virus than in 2020.

00:02:37.120 But he gets a free pass from everybody, whether it's the Republican Party, Democratic Party,

00:02:42.760 and, of course, the national left-wing media.

00:02:45.320 Somehow, Biden is just sort of blameless.

00:02:47.380 And maybe it's because he just doesn't carry the same high profile that Donald Trump did.

00:02:55.060 I think you have to give Biden a lot of credit for this.

00:02:58.020 It was an incredible year he had, 2021.

00:03:00.080 I mean, if you look at what he got away with, this Hunter Biden scheme,

00:03:03.360 they probably made $100 million on this.

00:03:05.460 Who knows where it went? Probably the whole family.

00:03:07.400 They got away with that.

00:03:08.940 Afghanistan, the worst military disaster.

00:03:11.200 On the simplest thing, they got away with that.

00:03:13.580 The border, screwing it up completely.

00:03:15.360 They got away with that.

00:03:17.140 The supply chain, that's a pretty easy one to fix.

00:03:20.100 It's just unloading crates off a ship.

00:03:22.580 They got away with messing.

00:03:23.780 They got away with more stuff than Bonnie and Clyde ever did.

00:03:27.060 I mean, this is record-setting what Biden got away with.

00:03:30.920 No, you're absolutely right.

00:03:32.540 And people don't look at it that way.

00:03:35.080 He, first of all, he doesn't spend a lot of time in that White House,

00:03:39.220 most of the time, in one of his bunkers somewhere in Delaware.

00:03:42.920 And he doesn't have to answer questions.

00:03:47.760 He just looks at people knowingly and sort of gets that PO'd look on his face,

00:03:52.960 like, how dare you interrupt my sleep or whatever.

00:03:57.420 It's amazing.

00:03:58.580 And the press, no complaint about no press conferences,

00:04:01.320 no complaint about not answering questions.

00:04:03.120 Donald Trump was making himself available every day to and fro the helicopter

00:04:08.060 or a press conference or a briefing.

00:04:10.740 And no complaint whatsoever about Sleepy Joe, as President Trump used to call him.

00:04:17.480 Now, and, you know, there were moments where when the Omicron showed up

00:04:21.080 and he said, this is a crisis, an emergency.

00:04:23.660 We're going to have to close the borders three weeks from Wednesday.

00:04:26.660 And then there was that Friday where he said, I've got to address the nation.

00:04:30.580 This is so serious.

00:04:31.500 It'll be next Tuesday.

00:04:33.500 So he does everything.

00:04:35.940 You know, when he started, he said, I have a plan to fight the pandemic.

00:04:39.680 Unlike Trump, I have a plan.

00:04:41.560 Right.

00:04:42.060 Apparently, the plan was just do what Trump was doing, but do it a lot slower.

00:04:45.660 He just slowed everything down.

00:04:47.840 The Biden plan is a little like the Nixon plan back in the 70s.

00:04:51.500 You know, he had a plan, but we never did learn what it was.

00:04:53.960 But it was good enough to get him elected.

00:04:56.340 Oh, no.

00:04:56.600 Biden had was a three point plan.

00:04:58.560 Then he said, yeah, eight point plan, seven point plan.

00:05:01.460 Nobody's ever heard what these points are.

00:05:04.040 But it was more detailed than Nixon's because he had eight points that we never heard of.

00:05:08.680 Yeah.

00:05:09.100 So so let's let's talk about what's going on here.

00:05:12.200 Fauci and the White House crew sending out that nasty note about Americans are either vaccinated

00:05:21.640 or they're unvaccinated.

00:05:23.120 And if you're unvaccinated, you're going to have a long winter and you're going to die.

00:05:27.380 What in the world possesses people in that White House to think like that, let alone send

00:05:33.000 out a message like that?

00:05:34.700 Well, you know, when they said they're going to lock down everything, you couldn't believe

00:05:37.420 that lock.

00:05:38.080 How can you lock down?

00:05:38.920 Well, they did it.

00:05:39.460 And they said, it has to be done to end this.

00:05:41.440 Well, it got worse after they locked down.

00:05:43.620 Then they said, yeah, wear these paper masks everywhere you go.

00:05:46.540 This will fix it.

00:05:47.700 This will prevent it.

00:05:48.680 And then it just got worse.

00:05:49.800 And then it was two masks and it was one mask.

00:05:52.940 And then you don't need the mask.

00:05:54.440 And now you've got to wear the mask.

00:05:55.660 And, you know, this is the problem with bureaucrats that have been there too long.

00:06:00.820 You know, J. Edgar Hoover was there 40 years and he was a disaster.

00:06:04.120 And there's so long, nobody realized what a disaster is.

00:06:06.960 And Fauci is J. Edgar Hoover with a stethoscope.

00:06:09.640 He's just a bumbling guy in the private sector.

00:06:12.800 He would have been fired after the first six months.

00:06:15.260 He shouldn't be there anymore.

00:06:17.040 There was an image.

00:06:18.240 J. Edgar Hoover playing doctor.

00:06:22.500 You know, I had Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on the show and he's written this book about how awful Fauci is.

00:06:27.960 And I said, you realize your father battled Hoover and now you got to battle this guy.

00:06:32.800 Well, Fauci, he is something else.

00:06:38.280 He's sort of like a, I don't know, he's like an albatross sort of sitting out on the pier and only makes a noise when he thinks there's going to be possibly, possibly a bubonic plague, the Black Death or something rolling over the shores.

00:06:56.080 He is, he's become something of a talisman of his own, a totem, and nothing good seems to flow from it.

00:07:06.600 Yeah, and he's like John Kerry when Kerry ran for president.

00:07:09.220 He thinks you just go on every show you can go on, say whatever you have to say.

00:07:12.840 If it doesn't work, say the opposite.

00:07:14.380 If that doesn't work, say something in the middle.

00:07:16.200 If that doesn't work, say something totally.

00:07:18.360 Just keep saying things until something sticks and it never works.

00:07:21.960 Fauci's a cute guy, he's very cute on television, but totally ineffective.

00:07:26.640 He is kind of cute.

00:07:28.240 Yeah, he is.

00:07:28.800 He's a very charming fellow, very easy to talk with, until you listen to what he's saying.

00:07:36.260 And then you start to worry a bit, like we don't need to shut down travel from China.

00:07:41.860 We don't need to be shutting down our borders.

00:07:44.920 We don't need masks.

00:07:47.020 The only thing he didn't say is we do need vaccines.

00:07:51.640 He was right about that.

00:07:53.640 Yeah, and people don't notice.

00:07:54.760 He literally goes on every show, do 100 shows a day, go on every show in the world, except

00:07:58.680 any show that might really question him.

00:08:01.060 Like you, or a real host that might really ask him tough questions.

00:08:04.880 Those shows he will not do.

00:08:06.660 Even a publicity hound won't do this.

00:08:09.040 I'll tell you a funny story, which has the added convenience of being absolutely true.

00:08:14.640 He was, I think he was amongst the first on my show, you know, what would we say, the

00:08:22.920 late show on Fox, in which he came on in January and February and everything was fine until I

00:08:32.080 had declared two weeks before the World Health Organization that it was a pandemic.

00:08:37.480 And after that, he didn't want to come on the show anymore.

00:08:42.760 For some reason, I don't know.

00:08:45.220 Maybe I didn't, I wasn't politically correct enough for.

00:08:48.360 Well, actually, you reminded me, I have to apologize to everybody, all my listeners, in

00:08:52.560 January and February of that year, I was saying this is nothing.

00:08:56.440 It's just a flu.

00:08:57.380 It's not going to be.

00:08:58.480 And I was getting that from Fauci.

00:08:59.860 That's what he was saying.

00:09:00.760 And I remember sitting there on your show and you used the word, I never heard anybody

00:09:04.600 use this word.

00:09:05.140 You used the word pandemic.

00:09:06.440 I never heard anybody use the word in this case, in this situation with this virus.

00:09:10.440 And I thought you were going too far with that word, but that's the first place I heard

00:09:13.880 the word pandemic.

00:09:15.220 Well, and two weeks later, the WHO got permission from President Xi to call it a pandemic.

00:09:21.700 It was wonderful.

00:09:23.620 It's good to see communication like that between world leaders, the head of the WHO and President

00:09:29.800 Xi, so, you know, speaking of communication, you know, this build back bill that was going

00:09:37.900 to be the panacea for, I like to use these medical terms like panacea, for everything that

00:09:44.500 ails the economy, all of the, all of the broke, busted, Democrat run state budgets, you

00:09:55.100 know, it was going to bail everybody out.

00:09:56.660 And now we won't have that stimulus package.

00:10:00.760 Do you think the, you think the country can survive?

00:10:04.760 Well, the problem with the bill is if you actually read it, 90% of it is crap.

00:10:10.560 It's just a waste, fraud, bloat, payoffs, gifts to donors.

00:10:14.420 It's just nothing.

00:10:15.560 90% of it.

00:10:16.600 No, normally you could take a bill like this, break it up into separate bills, do each thing

00:10:20.480 separately.

00:10:21.440 Each thing sounds great.

00:10:22.620 They get it voted in each month, you do one, have hearings, have hearings, yeah, it creates

00:10:27.320 a momentum every month, you're getting some great best, but you can't break this bill

00:10:30.900 up into separate bills, because you'll notice, nine out of 10 of them are just stupid things

00:10:35.820 that no one wants.

00:10:37.500 Maybe 10% is actual infrastructure.

00:10:40.240 And for the infrastructure, 90% of that is wasted because they're overpaying for everything.

00:10:44.440 So, and they're hiring foreign corporations to do the work, so that gets to be less than

00:10:51.300 stimulative.

00:10:52.400 But one thing we do know, it costs $1.75 trillion.

00:10:57.220 But wait a minute, we don't really know that.

00:10:59.600 That's just what the Biden White House said.

00:11:02.140 Then the Congressional Budget Office scored it, and it's $3 trillion.

00:11:05.220 Then the Penn Wharton agency came out with $4.6 trillion.

00:11:17.020 The latest bid is $4.9 trillion on what they said was a $1.75 trillion bill.

00:11:23.920 I mean, it's outrageous, the level of lying and deceit by this administration.

00:11:29.760 It's just outrageous.

00:11:31.480 And thank goodness for Joe Manchin.

00:11:34.940 He had the guts to stand up with 50 Republican senators and say, no way.

00:11:40.360 Yeah, but all of this is caused by totally corrupt media that's not functioning properly.

00:11:44.860 If they really were real, and they went through this bill, you know, a simple thing like building

00:11:48.960 a highway, it's $40,000 a mile.

00:11:52.100 That's the cost to pave a highway.

00:11:54.220 In this bill, we're spending $2 million a mile.

00:11:56.740 So the media should be all over that.

00:11:59.100 Wait a minute.

00:11:59.580 Wait a minute.

00:12:00.300 That's just an example of the inflation that we're going through, isn't it?

00:12:04.720 $40,000 versus $2 million.

00:12:07.500 It's a little higher than usual, but, you know, I see it as inflationary.

00:12:11.440 Don't you?

00:12:12.520 They just built a terminal at the airport here, our LaGuardia Airport in New York.

00:12:16.140 $20 billion for this.

00:12:17.580 It's just a box.

00:12:18.480 It's a nothing building.

00:12:19.760 In France, they build entire state-of-the-art airports for $5 billion.

00:12:23.760 They don't steal all the infrastructure money.

00:12:26.240 So I'd be happy to spend $5 trillion on infrastructure.

00:12:30.320 If you really got $5 trillion worth of stuff, you know, they've fixed all of our infrastructure

00:12:34.260 a thousand times over, and it's still crumbling.

00:12:36.800 So that tells you all you need to know.

00:12:39.240 I'd be, I can't even say I'd be glad to pay those taxes, even if I got something for it.

00:12:46.200 I'm so tired of paying taxes.

00:12:48.100 You know, I wonder, you know, you pay, you pay your income taxes.

00:12:54.180 You know, then you have paid property taxes.

00:12:56.660 You've got sales taxes.

00:12:58.440 You've got capital gains taxes if you've had a good year.

00:13:01.520 And it just goes on and on.

00:13:07.040 Then, of course, you get to pay taxes if you die.

00:13:11.120 At what point do Americans say, whoa, maybe we just don't need this much government?

00:13:17.940 How about we roll it back 20%, cut taxes 20%, roll back government by 20%.

00:13:24.520 What would be wrong with that idea?

00:13:26.400 Well, I'm amazed people don't do that.

00:13:27.920 You know, you act like a consumer.

00:13:29.040 If you go into the finest store, you go into Tiffany's and spend thousands of dollars, you come out with something beautiful and shining.

00:13:35.480 It's great.

00:13:36.640 But here in New York, if you pay a fortune in taxes, you'll walk outside your house.

00:13:40.800 The sidewalk is all crumbling.

00:13:42.300 There's mental patients all over the street.

00:13:45.660 Potholes everywhere.

00:13:46.600 The bridges are falling.

00:13:47.640 And this is what I'm paying 60% in taxes for?

00:13:50.640 I mean, just smart consumerism would say this is ridiculous.

00:13:55.380 And the idea of smart citizenship has just gone out the window.

00:13:59.660 I mean, we're looked at not as citizens of this country by our erstwhile bureaucracy and elected officials.

00:14:07.500 We're consumers.

00:14:08.400 We're taxpayers.

00:14:10.220 We're demographic units.

00:14:14.320 But we're not citizens because citizens actually have a say in what is happening to their government.

00:14:21.580 We seem to have lost that capacity.

00:14:24.780 Your thoughts?

00:14:27.040 Yeah, I think, you know, it's a cycle and it comes to an end at some point and people wake up.

00:14:32.600 And I think November of this year, the midterm elections, hopefully there's a silent majority out there that's just going to rise up and just wipe out these Democrats.

00:14:43.300 Saying we're sick of all this.

00:14:45.340 We can't take this anymore.

00:14:46.680 This let the criminals out.

00:14:48.340 A crime wave that you've created.

00:14:50.360 These taxes.

00:14:51.640 I mean, hopefully they'll lose 75 seats in the House and 25 in the Senate.

00:14:58.000 And that'll be the end of it.

00:14:58.860 Although then we've got to trust these Republicans.

00:15:01.340 Yeah, well, I'm looking hard for somebody to trust in the body politic.

00:15:06.540 I'm not sure where I'm going to land on that.

00:15:09.480 You know, the silent majority.

00:15:10.820 Isn't it interesting that we're always looking for the silent majority?

00:15:14.880 No one seems to be looking for the silent minority.

00:15:18.540 You know, we have vested interests all over the country that, you know, where is the where are the libertarians?

00:15:27.740 They used to be around.

00:15:29.640 They were always a minority candidate.

00:15:32.440 The Green Party.

00:15:33.220 You go through the where are the independents right now?

00:15:37.900 Yeah.

00:15:38.180 They've all lost a voice in the place.

00:15:40.720 And I never knew what that meant.

00:15:42.220 Silent majority till I got on Twitter.

00:15:43.940 And then I found out if they don't like your tweet, it goes nowhere and nobody sees it.

00:15:48.280 So I guess that's what they mean.

00:15:50.080 But independent.

00:15:51.880 You know, you wrote a book once called Independence Day.

00:15:53.860 And I didn't I didn't know that.

00:15:55.980 Yeah.

00:15:56.360 So, I mean, that's independence.

00:15:58.700 Was it really good?

00:15:59.960 It was phenomenal.

00:16:00.920 Everybody should go read this.

00:16:02.140 And so far ahead of its time.

00:16:04.240 It's really just independence from all of this breaking loose from this whole.

00:16:08.320 I mean, if I could just push a button to get rid of the Democrats, the Republicans, both parties, I think it would be great.

00:16:15.260 Independence are the answer.

00:16:17.240 I love that about Donald Trump wasn't really on either side.

00:16:22.180 He was just on the right side, the logical side, the let's get things done side.

00:16:27.860 You know, historians, I don't know if they'll look back on this fairly, but everything he did was what needed to be done.

00:16:33.940 Just fix things.

00:16:34.780 Just be like the private sector.

00:16:36.180 Get it done.

00:16:37.440 Don't worry if you step on toes.

00:16:39.540 And if historians will look back and say, you threw away all that just because you didn't like his bedside manner.

00:16:44.960 You didn't like his tweeting.

00:16:47.240 Well, and that, by the way, is precisely what this comes down to.

00:16:51.340 That and the fact that he scared the hell out of the establishment, the orthodoxy, the business establishment, Wall Street, all of those who were living on the public trough for decades were suddenly shaking in their boots.

00:17:08.500 When he said deep state, you know, that was it.

00:17:11.600 But it was it was war and it was war carried out so, so viciously against a sitting president.

00:17:21.640 If you had told anyone, I think, in this country with any sense that we would witness a president being impeached twice, once for a phone call and once because the opposing campaign created a hoax that became the basis for a special counsel investigation of a sitting president.

00:17:40.800 You would have said no way in the world, yet it happened and I think could happen again, don't you?

00:17:47.500 Oh, if he if he tries to come back, they'll they'll pull out all the stops in New York.

00:17:51.900 Our attorney general has been trying to go after him.

00:17:53.740 A district attorney has been trying to they're looking for a crime.

00:17:56.260 They got a hold of his tax returns in almost a year ago and they brought in forensic accounts.

00:18:02.440 They went through it for three months.

00:18:04.560 There wasn't anything wrong with any of the tax forms.

00:18:07.140 Everything was perfect.

00:18:07.940 That's why you never heard about that again.

00:18:10.320 Then they arrested his one of his top guys for using a company car.

00:18:14.480 Yeah, company doesn't have that going on.

00:18:17.600 Exactly.

00:18:18.080 And when I when I think about all that he went through, it's just stunning because I don't I don't really believe that there are many billionaires who could go through the investigations that he's gone through, the persecution that he's gone through and come out of it without even a parking ticket violation.

00:18:42.000 But because that's exactly what he did.

00:18:44.580 I mean, they didn't find a thing.

00:18:46.540 I know I'd like them to do that investigation with let's let's do it with, you know, who's a big Democratic billionaire.

00:18:55.840 Oh, let's try George Soros.

00:18:57.600 OK, George Soros.

00:19:00.120 He was next on my list.

00:19:02.820 Warren Buffett was going to be first.

00:19:04.580 I'm sure Warren Buffett is squeaky clean.

00:19:07.200 But George Soros, I mean, I don't know.

00:19:10.060 These are these are people who live, you know, pretty well without paying a lot of taxes, at least.

00:19:16.540 But commensurately to the federal treasury, I mean, it's really stunning to think that he came out of that absolutely clean and it just drives the left mad.

00:19:26.920 Well, they're still going on.

00:19:28.140 You know, the turns out one of the company executives used a company apartment.

00:19:31.520 This is a company that has 10,000 apartments, probably at any time 500 of them are empty.

00:19:35.940 So, right.

00:19:37.080 Exactly.

00:19:38.700 It's it's stunning.

00:19:40.580 And oh, this this little back and forth between Elizabeth Warren and Elon Musk, where she accused Elon Musk of, you know, being a freeloader.

00:19:52.940 I mean, how in the world?

00:19:55.180 And I know she was a lawyer, but even a lawyer should understand economics and business better than that, don't you think?

00:20:05.520 Yeah.

00:20:05.680 And also, if you're really concerned about climate change, if you're really sincere and you want to get to electric energy and battery power and all that, the only way that's going to happen is Elon Musk.

00:20:15.160 He's the guy that's going to figure that out.

00:20:16.880 But this is the last guy you want to try and knock down if anybody's going to solve the climate change problem as far as getting rid of fossil fuel.

00:20:24.300 This is the guy.

00:20:25.660 It's not going to be these government handouts to Solyndra type company.

00:20:28.600 It's going to be this guy.

00:20:29.800 They should be throwing parades for this guy.

00:20:32.260 They should be calling him every day saying, what do you need?

00:20:34.180 You need more money.

00:20:34.900 What can we do for you to help you with this stuff?

00:20:37.180 Yeah.

00:20:37.400 And he is without question one of the well, he's the what was it?

00:20:42.000 Newsweek time of the time magazine man of the year.

00:20:45.480 Anyway, he got to be man of the year, and I think he deserves it for lots of reasons, whether it be Tesla, SpaceX, or just the fact that he's amassed so much wealth.

00:20:58.940 I'm not sure he really cares how the business goes day to day.

00:21:02.560 He's got a long-term outlook.

00:21:05.120 He wants to see what the next $50 billion looks like.

00:21:10.120 He's quite a capitalist, and that's fun to see.

00:21:13.800 But the last thing Elizabeth Warren wants to see is a successful capitalist.

00:21:18.360 By the way, that usually is the best way to be successful is to be a capitalist in a capitalist country, don't you think?

00:21:25.160 Yeah, I think when you find out a guy made $2 billion, he must be pretty smart.

00:21:28.820 So when I hear a guy made $250 billion, I think that's a really smart guy.

00:21:34.300 And you compare that to Elizabeth Warren, who's probably lost $250 billion of our money in waste and bloat and fraud in these bills.

00:21:42.460 I'll take Elon Musk anytime.

00:21:44.460 And I wish he wasn't born in this country.

00:21:47.340 He was born in South Africa.

00:21:48.540 Otherwise, he'd be a great presidential candidate.

00:21:51.540 Yeah, no question about it.

00:21:52.920 The thing that impresses me, though, most about Elon Musk, I know this may sound a little crazy, but he's the only guy I know who thought about landing a rocket on its tail after it's already flown to space, returning and then landing tail first on a platform.

00:22:15.180 I mean, nobody was thinking about that.

00:22:19.200 It was amazing.

00:22:20.520 Yeah, if you look back at the space program, especially in the 60s, it was so sophisticated to land on the moon.

00:22:26.080 It was unbelievably sophisticated.

00:22:27.720 Then you watch when they come back.

00:22:28.980 It's like three little parachutes, and it has to hit the ocean and float around until somebody can go get it.

00:22:34.420 Right.

00:22:34.920 That was a very primitive system of landing.

00:22:38.160 But it worked.

00:22:39.980 And, you know, you talk about moon landing.

00:22:43.700 I keep thinking about this.

00:22:44.880 You know, we didn't have the federal government involved in public education when we sent a man to the moon, but we didn't have two all-powerful teachers unions before we sent a man to the moon.

00:22:57.700 So you know what happened after that?

00:22:59.800 We got two powerful teachers unions, and suddenly no one was in charge of public education but the teachers and the federal government.

00:23:10.180 And we haven't been back to the moon since.

00:23:13.140 Does that tell you something?

00:23:15.760 You know, the Catholic Church runs the best schools here in New York.

00:23:19.020 Somebody asked the Cardinal, what would you do to fix our school?

00:23:21.880 He said, do what we do.

00:23:23.060 Cut the budget by 90%.

00:23:24.720 And people were shocked.

00:23:26.360 And he said, you got 94 cents of every dollar, never gets near a classroom.

00:23:30.460 Get rid of all those layers and layers and layers and layers of bureaucracy.

00:23:34.860 Just send the money into the classroom.

00:23:36.540 Cut it down.

00:23:37.220 The unions have done more to just screw up our school systems, keep money from getting to where it needs to go, and have just made a mess of everything when it comes to schools.

00:23:48.960 Well, it's really true.

00:23:51.940 And give the money to the teachers, for crying out loud.

00:23:56.500 Why not pay teachers better, but pay them based on performance?

00:24:02.460 And why not have, and I think it's also very important that we have a lot of surveillance in those schools.

00:24:09.500 We've got to do a lot of things to change the way we're treating education and the way education is treating us.

00:24:18.820 Because much of education now is indoctrination of our kids rather than their education.

00:24:23.880 And we need to change all of that.

00:24:25.480 And we need to do it soon if we want to go back to the moon or to Mars, as Elon Musk would say.

00:24:31.840 Let me ask you this as we're wrapping out here.

00:24:34.560 A lot of stories lately about the establishment media, corporate media, its readership, viewership, usership, dropping almost 50% since Donald Trump left office.

00:24:53.160 What can we do to help out poor corporate media and help their numbers, their ratings, and their viewership, and their circulation?

00:25:01.940 What can we do for them?

00:25:03.060 Well, I give them credit for standing on principle.

00:25:06.200 They're a left-wing, crazy, biased principle.

00:25:09.200 They were willing to lose half their business to stick by it.

00:25:13.020 There's, you know, whenever you go after the government or expose something or all these exposés that get big ratings, there's plenty of them to do with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

00:25:21.940 And they still refuse to do them.

00:25:24.100 And, you know, I think if Jimmy Carter is watching this, he must say to himself, where was this corrupt media when I was in office?

00:25:29.800 I could have had another term if they'd covered for me like this.

00:25:32.300 It's something we've never been through.

00:25:35.480 And I don't think a democracy can really function without working media.

00:25:38.480 And, you know, it's actually a really, really dangerous thing.

00:25:42.520 There's guys like John Malone who are talking about turning CNN back into a news network.

00:25:47.420 Hopefully, he'll lead the charge and do that.

00:25:49.920 Yeah.

00:25:50.060 Except John Malone was also the guy who wanted all of the networks to get into online gambling and, you know, instead we're going that direction instead of to higher levels of journalism.

00:26:04.920 So let's wrap this thing up with something very important, a big issue.

00:26:12.340 And that is, do you think, do you think that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are the two worst people to ever hold the presidency and vice presidency on the same ticket in the same administration?

00:26:27.680 Is that a real question?

00:26:29.140 It is.

00:26:29.900 Is that even a question?

00:26:31.180 I'm just taking a stab.

00:26:32.520 I want to see what happens.

00:26:33.680 Oh, there's not even a second place.

00:26:35.880 Nobody could compete.

00:26:38.640 Spiro Agnew was Winston Churchill compared to Kamala Harris.

00:26:43.600 I mean, Jimmy Carter was a genius compared to Joe Biden.

00:26:48.260 Oh, my gosh.

00:26:50.360 I mean, Jimmy Carter had some.

00:26:51.960 First of all, he had a good first year.

00:26:53.660 It took him to like year three to start screwing up.

00:26:56.600 And, you know, like getting the hostages out of Iran, that was a complex problem, hard to figure out.

00:27:01.240 This guy can't even figure out how to just pull out of Afghanistan.

00:27:04.260 He leaves the weapons all over the runway, forgets.

00:27:07.480 You can't figure out a supply chain.

00:27:09.180 It's just unloading ships.

00:27:10.560 The simplest things baffle him.

00:27:12.800 You know, she's just around giggling and laughing at everything.

00:27:17.340 With obviously a clue what in the world she's doing.

00:27:21.940 Not a clue.

00:27:23.200 All I can think of is when you were mentioning it, as we began this discussion, talking about Afghanistan, they messed that up to such a fare thee well.

00:27:37.040 We lost 13 Marines.

00:27:39.500 We lost apparently over 500 Americans when we left.

00:27:44.500 We have gotten apparently most of them out.

00:27:47.800 But it would almost be like General Lee at Appomattox.

00:27:52.720 You know, we were there to surrender.

00:27:54.680 We may be the first country to ever mess up a surrender.

00:28:00.460 We had already screwed up the war.

00:28:03.280 The Taliban prevailed.

00:28:05.360 But to mess up the surrender just looks, it looks, I guess the word is tacky, don't you think?

00:28:11.160 Yeah, it's pretty easy.

00:28:11.980 You evacuate your civilians, then the military leaves.

00:28:14.440 They did it the other way.

00:28:15.400 The military left, then they figure out how to go back and rescue the civilians.

00:28:19.800 And as Donald Trump pointed out, these helicopters are 30 million apiece.

00:28:23.460 And to say it's cheaper to leave them, as he said, why can't you just put half a tank of gas in them and fly them out of there?

00:28:29.820 How could that not be cheaper?

00:28:32.060 That would have been the most economical way, wouldn't it?

00:28:35.060 Oh, my gosh.

00:28:36.620 Mark, always great to talk with you.

00:28:38.660 I appreciate it so much.

00:28:40.940 Look forward to seeing you soon.

00:28:42.820 And you take care of yourself.

00:28:44.500 Well, I love this podcast.

00:28:45.940 I love listening to it.

00:28:46.800 Thanks for having me.

00:28:47.980 You're great.

00:28:49.020 My good friend, Mark Simone, truly a broadcasting legend and great American and a great friend.

00:28:56.260 We'll be back with more of the Great America Show.

00:29:00.120 Stay with us.

00:29:00.860 We'll be right back.

00:29:01.560 The big ruckus in our nation's capital of late, the latest COVID, or more properly, the latest China virus variant storm, Omicron, is here.

00:29:14.040 And Dr. Fauci couldn't be more thrilled.

00:29:16.480 His hair is absolutely on fire, as it often is.

00:29:21.160 Now, let's see.

00:29:22.360 All the left-wing media and Biden radical dims were blaming then-President Trump for every single death from the pandemic.

00:29:30.580 And now that more Americans died in 2021 than from the virus in 2020, they're giving President Biden an absolute pass, not only on each death from the China virus, but from the pandemic itself.

00:29:49.180 Think about it.

00:29:50.120 We've got two years' experience with that disease, but not two years' worth of knowledge.

00:29:56.240 Our public health professionals are still contradicting themselves.

00:29:59.960 They've politicized almost every aspect of the war against COVID.

00:30:04.800 And remember when your left-wing friends start whining about vaccinations, shutdowns, and masks?

00:30:11.000 Remind them it was Joe Biden who led the charge against vaccine.

00:30:15.060 He kept telling everyone he wasn't going to take the vaccine because it had been invented.

00:30:20.120 Under Donald Trump's administration.

00:30:23.300 Kamala Harris, by the way, followed her leader.

00:30:26.060 Now, this White House puts out a nasty message that says to the unvaccinated, you'll get severely sick or die over the winter.

00:30:34.720 Nasty stuff.

00:30:35.480 And it reads like a letter from Stalin.

00:30:37.900 But it's just another message emanating from the Biden White House.

00:30:42.700 The Bidens and the left are leading an authoritarian revolution, if you hadn't noticed.

00:30:47.860 And one of the people in the fight against the leftist efforts to crush the Constitution and the country is attorney Harmeet Dillon, also California National Republican committee woman, not only a terrific attorney and advocate, but a great American.

00:31:03.040 Harmeet, great to have you with us on The Great America Show.

00:31:07.000 Happy to be here today.

00:31:08.180 Thank you so much for having me, Lou.

00:31:09.800 You have fought against the madness of this administration and its authoritarian impulses.

00:31:18.620 What are you thinking today?

00:31:20.560 Well, so many thoughts have gone through my mind at the end of 2021 with respect to how quickly Joe Biden has driven this recovering economy into the ground, has driven America to the far left extreme of politics,

00:31:38.820 has made so many Americans miserable with the inflation that's affecting real consumer experiences every day and, you know, attempts to shred the integrity of our courts and all of our norms.

00:31:50.880 And so as an American, setting aside a Republican as an American, I'm very concerned about the future of this country.

00:31:57.820 And that's why I and I'm sure you and so many others spend so much time trying to fight back and make sure that not only do we stop this guy in his tracks,

00:32:06.040 but frankly, also we elect better Republicans to our federal offices so that they can protect our interests better going forward.

00:32:13.140 Yeah, we just got word that Biden has put forward 40 judges, put them on the bench in our judicial system.

00:32:24.340 It's the most since Reagan.

00:32:26.760 Your thoughts about the influence that he is building?

00:32:30.960 It's something of a legacy.

00:32:33.900 Well, it's interesting.

00:32:35.340 I mean, you know, those of us in the law look at this, and I was looking at this very fact earlier today.

00:32:40.540 OK, so Biden will be able to claim, you know, give or take one more judge on the federal courts than President Trump in his first year in office.

00:32:51.640 OK, but, you know, what he's doing is really replacing the senior status judges, the handful of judges who were pretty much holding on, clinging on for dear life until a Democrat came back.

00:33:03.800 All of the historic number of over 200 judges that President Trump managed to confirm are still there.

00:33:11.020 They're younger in generation.

00:33:12.620 They're going to be there for a long time.

00:33:14.800 So what's really setting up is is I think it's going to take a few years for Biden to catch up.

00:33:20.680 He may not have a few years because if Republicans do their job correctly, he has one more year to stuff the bench with his woke candidates.

00:33:31.540 Some of them are very fine lawyers and some of them are just, frankly, activists in robes.

00:33:37.080 One of the disappointments this past 2021 has been that, you know, you have some senators like Lindsey Graham who have simply rubber stamped some of the more extreme choices by President Biden.

00:33:50.620 We never got that courtesy on the Republican side.

00:33:53.360 And I'm not saying that people should block judges if they're qualified, but we disagree with their politics.

00:33:57.900 Some of these folks are radicals and have said some pretty outrageous things.

00:34:02.340 And so I don't understand why Republicans give them that courtesy.

00:34:06.800 You know, this isn't a game of croquet.

00:34:09.020 It is the future of our country.

00:34:11.820 Yeah, it isn't a game.

00:34:13.220 It isn't certainly anything so mild and moderate as croquet.

00:34:18.660 But Lindsey Graham is what he is.

00:34:21.640 He's a rhino.

00:34:23.140 He is a eccentric rhino at that.

00:34:26.180 And he is now very influential, thanks to Donald Trump.

00:34:32.240 No rhino he, but certainly not adverse to furthering the interest of rhinos.

00:34:37.520 We can't have that going on either, can we?

00:34:40.920 Well, I think this has been going on for many years at many levels.

00:34:44.560 And I don't want to really, you know, name call.

00:34:46.880 I'm a member of the Republican National Committee.

00:34:49.320 But what I will say at a high level, Lou, is that I think a problem we have here is that

00:34:58.760 when Republicans have power, they don't, in a disciplined fashion, implement an agreed-upon agenda.

00:35:06.680 The left is doing exactly that.

00:35:09.120 It doesn't really mean, you could interchange all of the Democrats, and it wouldn't make much of a difference as to what their agenda is.

00:35:16.900 You could replace AOC.

00:35:18.560 You could replace Nancy Pelosi.

00:35:19.980 You could replace Chuck Schumer.

00:35:21.300 They'd still have the same agenda because they've had that agenda for decades.

00:35:25.800 And on our side, you throw a few lobbyist bucks at some of our Republicans who pound the table during hearings about big tech censorship.

00:35:33.860 And, you know, they will spout the talking points of Google, Facebook, and Twitter.

00:35:38.820 I've sat down with them, and I've heard it from their lips in social settings and in green rooms.

00:35:44.760 So I know it, and it just puzzles me how easy it is for our guys to either get bought or influenced, I should say.

00:35:52.800 I won't say get bought, but what I can say is I don't think those folks are going to change.

00:35:57.940 And I do think that what we need in Congress is citizen leaders who have had experience in the real world

00:36:05.700 are willing to come in and do this for some time and then go back to the real world.

00:36:09.980 That's my dream.

00:36:10.960 And, you know, on the other hand, what we also need is a party with a focused agenda and a leader

00:36:15.680 that is willing with personnel, with resources, and with moral capital to make it happen.

00:36:21.800 I mean, look at the moral capital, if you can call it that, that Joe Biden exerted over his, you know,

00:36:28.140 signature legislation that he was trying to push through in 2021.

00:36:31.300 I mean, he really worked it.

00:36:32.840 The Democrats really worked it.

00:36:34.260 And it was only by the sheer dint of a couple of outlier Democrats that our country was prevented,

00:36:41.740 at least temporarily, from going down a disastrous road of shredding up our election laws

00:36:47.280 and changing the courts and doing all kinds of other things.

00:36:50.520 But for other pieces of legislation, like the infrastructure bill, Republicans were right there

00:36:55.060 to sign on to it as long as they got their pork.

00:36:58.400 And this system has to change and citizens have to hold these people accountable in both parties.

00:37:03.520 And if you want to know how, and I agree with you about not calling people names,

00:37:08.520 and I never do unless I have to.

00:37:11.580 This may be one of those occasions.

00:37:14.360 And the reality is that Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, are eager to do the bidding of the

00:37:23.700 U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the Business Roundtable.

00:37:27.420 What makes it doubly contemptible is that the Business Roundtable and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce

00:37:33.280 are now more aligned with the Democratic, left-wing, neo-Marxist agenda than they are the Republicans.

00:37:40.620 So they're nothing more than useful fools and tools.

00:37:44.260 Your thoughts?

00:37:44.840 You know, absolutely.

00:37:46.320 So when I left college in the late 1980s, you know, I had been influenced by my friends Dinesh D'Souza,

00:37:52.760 Laura Ingram, you know, some good conservatives.

00:37:55.220 My first job after college was at the Heritage Foundation.

00:37:57.740 The Heritage Foundation came off of eight years of being the brain trust for the Reagan Revolution.

00:38:05.260 And what an exhilarating time it was.

00:38:07.280 Every single day at the Heritage Foundation, new things were being done.

00:38:11.060 And it was inspiring for a young conservative.

00:38:15.740 But whatever worked in the 1980s is not the messaging we need to be carrying forward in 2022.

00:38:22.720 And yet I hear kind of the same tired slides and talking points from the 80s and the 90s as I'm sitting here looking at big tech,

00:38:35.580 which wasn't there in those times and wasn't influencing our elections and our news and even our ability to talk freely about a virus.

00:38:43.320 We didn't have hordes, millions of people crossing the border illegally.

00:38:50.540 We were talking then benevolently about amnesty for, you know, a much smaller number.

00:38:56.800 Which came in 1986, by the way.

00:38:59.160 Which came in, exactly.

00:39:01.160 And, you know, like a lot of compassionate conservatives, he thought he sold it as a one-time deal.

00:39:06.800 Was it a one-time deal, President Reagan?

00:39:08.520 So, in any event, you know, the situation has totally changed.

00:39:14.320 The liberals have totally changed.

00:39:15.880 The liberals of the 1980s and 90s, they played basketball together with, you know, the Republicans.

00:39:22.180 They were all friends.

00:39:23.100 They used to hang out together.

00:39:24.240 There was a common understanding about our country.

00:39:27.120 But today, we don't have that anymore.

00:39:29.600 Today, we have a very divided situation.

00:39:31.860 And I think big tech is partially responsible for that.

00:39:34.380 But big, dark money is, too.

00:39:36.780 And we simply cannot use that tired old playbook.

00:39:43.040 You know, some of our members of Congress are from that era.

00:39:45.680 And they are not able to move on.

00:39:47.660 So, I think what we need is new representatives.

00:39:50.520 And on the front end, the voters, their customers, need to be demanding specifically,

00:39:55.980 what are they going to do about the issues that we care about and whoever that voter is.

00:39:59.900 I personally care about big tech censorship and manipulation of our information and privacy.

00:40:05.160 I care about national security, but not at the expense of simply America being the policeman

00:40:12.560 of the world.

00:40:13.540 I care about opportunity and real consumer costs.

00:40:17.640 I care about children not being taught that America is a bad country and that white people

00:40:21.540 and men are bad and that there is no gender.

00:40:23.960 These are some of the things that I care about like.

00:40:26.040 These are some of the things I personally care about.

00:40:27.780 And I'm not sure I can point to any Congress people who are advancing the agenda on those

00:40:32.780 issues.

00:40:33.500 I couldn't agree with you more.

00:40:35.600 And, you know, just a little thought experiment here, if we may.

00:40:40.140 When's the last time you heard a Republican say that we've landed a man on the moon without

00:40:45.900 the benefit of teachers' unions, federal intervention in public education, and we haven't been able

00:40:53.440 to get back since the strengthening and peak power of those two teachers' unions, what do

00:41:00.460 you think of that?

00:41:01.760 Is there a Republican ready to say it's time to get rid of those teachers' unions and to

00:41:06.080 go after them?

00:41:06.760 Well, the problem, well, to go after them is one thing.

00:41:09.900 To get rid of them is, I think, going to be very difficult with federal power because,

00:41:16.300 you know, our one durable perspective as conservatives is that the federal government

00:41:22.360 should not be implementing central control.

00:41:25.660 We can't ban, you know, the teachers' union.

00:41:28.320 What we can do is we can implement changes to federal law concerning certain aspects of

00:41:36.860 education, or at least at a minimum, tie federal dollars to certain norms.

00:41:42.180 I mean, I think that's a respectable and effective thing to do.

00:41:45.120 We aren't doing that.

00:41:46.780 I mean, if the left, the Democrats, the radical Dems in this country, the Marxist left in this

00:41:53.260 country, can ban school boards and private citizens from having significant influence over

00:42:00.100 public education, which has been the tradition as well as the law in this country for two

00:42:07.340 centuries, and we did very well with it.

00:42:09.520 It's just amazing to me.

00:42:11.140 Why in the world can we not go after teachers' unions that are using federal dollars, massive

00:42:19.160 influence to overwhelm local school boards, and in conjunction with the radical Dem party,

00:42:27.540 actually, in some cases, going after teachers who raise their voices in a school board meeting,

00:42:32.960 objecting to critical race theory or ESG or whatever it may be.

00:42:38.400 This is a time for Republicans to fight.

00:42:42.540 We want to play by rules that are no longer recognized by the other side.

00:42:46.600 That is madness, is it not?

00:42:48.060 I hear you.

00:42:49.120 So what I was going to say is that I think we cannot achieve those goals at the federal

00:42:53.840 level.

00:42:54.660 The power is too diffuse, and the power, frankly, isn't there.

00:42:58.560 At the state level, every single conversation I have with somebody who calls me and says,

00:43:03.160 I'm a first-time candidate, and I'm fed up.

00:43:04.800 I'd like to run for fill-in-the-blank governor, senator, Congress.

00:43:09.480 I say, no, no, no.

00:43:11.060 First of all, you're going to lose because you don't know what you're doing.

00:43:14.280 You have to build up those skills.

00:43:15.820 But secondly, why not start right in your local community and run for school board?

00:43:20.980 Republicans need to take over every school board in America.

00:43:25.660 Parents need to be taking control of these school boards.

00:43:27.960 We advocate that weekly on this podcast, by the way.

00:43:32.500 But what I don't understand is why the Republican National Committee, former president, and anyone

00:43:38.420 who wants to contest for any federal elective position doesn't say, we're going to be there

00:43:45.220 to help you.

00:43:46.340 We're going to give you a plan.

00:43:47.940 The Republican Party hasn't got anything approaching a plan to inspire, to organize, and to execute

00:43:56.740 a plan at the local level, which is desperately needed.

00:44:00.980 I think it's a good point.

00:44:02.700 It's a gap, and it's something that we need to address.

00:44:05.440 And I'm going to pursue that in my small way.

00:44:09.620 But I do think that it is something that needs to be done.

00:44:14.020 And let me just, you know, for your listeners, I'm sure people may understand this, but the

00:44:19.660 way politics works in D.C. is, you know, he who controls the power of the money gets his

00:44:25.760 ox board, right?

00:44:26.920 And so the folks who decide messaging for our national candidates in our national party are

00:44:35.220 generally people who are, you know, getting paid and getting paid by certain interests.

00:44:40.300 And so the parents don't have a union.

00:44:42.820 The parents don't have lobbyists.

00:44:44.720 The parents don't have that going for them.

00:44:48.320 I mean, the parents in Virginia had it going with a very smart candidate who pivoted.

00:44:53.160 I mean, he was sort of straight out of central casting, Mitt Romney type, you know, successful

00:44:59.300 plutocrat when he started running.

00:45:01.040 But the way he pivoted and seized the teachers' abuses and the parents' rights issue was a

00:45:07.560 model, I think, for campaigns all over the country.

00:45:10.540 So I hope to see more of that.

00:45:12.240 But you're right.

00:45:13.080 We have to have that be that that's a cultural issue that touches people the same way that

00:45:18.120 inflation, which, you know, I posted something on Twitter.

00:45:22.920 The other day, I went to the grocery store to make a salad.

00:45:26.900 Lettuce was seven dollars, which used to be three or four dollars.

00:45:31.140 I couldn't believe it.

00:45:31.840 I posted it online.

00:45:32.920 And one of my friends said, well, Jen Psaki would say that big lettuce is to blame for

00:45:37.480 this, not, you know, the inflationary pressures that the Biden administration created.

00:45:43.300 These are the bread and butter issues that Americans see every single day.

00:45:47.200 And yes, you don't hear Republicans talking about it other than sort of in some rehearsed

00:45:51.260 talking points.

00:45:52.000 We really need to focus on these issues.

00:45:55.200 The left has done that very effectively.

00:45:56.980 So we need not just sort of money people shuffling around money from lobbyists to Republican

00:46:02.640 candidates and Republicans in Congress.

00:46:04.580 We need storytellers.

00:46:07.040 We need we need, you know, really kind of people who connect with these issues.

00:46:12.100 The schools, the pocketbook, the border.

00:46:17.000 Donald Trump actually pulled a lot of that together.

00:46:19.040 But the big tech censorship has eliminated his ability for now to commit, communicate the

00:46:26.340 way that he used to.

00:46:27.240 And I hope he gets a different platform that works out for him and gets that back.

00:46:32.300 But he can't be just the one person.

00:46:33.840 There have to be many voices.

00:46:34.980 We have to insist on that from really all of our leaders.

00:46:38.200 Right.

00:46:38.880 The problem that we've got is, as you know, we have a great leader in former President

00:46:44.780 Trump.

00:46:45.200 But no one wanted to follow him in amongst the establishment Republicans.

00:46:51.220 And therefore there was and the left was in absolute constant warfare with him and continue

00:46:57.700 to be so without any national media being supportive.

00:47:02.620 I mean, none.

00:47:03.260 It's it's a it's a pipe dream to think any of that's going to change without inspired new

00:47:10.680 leadership in the Republican Party, don't you think?

00:47:15.200 Well, we always need new leadership.

00:47:16.880 I think that we we desperately need it in our party.

00:47:20.960 We need it in Congress.

00:47:22.260 We need it in, you know, certainly candidates with fresh ideas.

00:47:27.020 We need it in turnover at the state and and, you know, even at some point the federal party

00:47:32.600 level, we need a change in mentality.

00:47:35.460 You know, we really do.

00:47:36.380 We need we need to be fighting for this as as if our life depended on it.

00:47:41.620 Now, most members of the Republican National Committee are wonderful people.

00:47:47.060 I'm in my fifth year, actually going into my sixth year now as a member of the RNC.

00:47:52.460 They're generally pretty successful people.

00:47:55.660 They're pretty.

00:47:56.260 I don't think there are any members of the RNC who are going to undergo hardship if the gas

00:48:00.420 price goes from three to four dollars or in California edging towards six dollars.

00:48:05.940 We're all going to be able to fill our tanks and buy the seven dollar lettuce.

00:48:09.860 You people in California may have a little more trouble than you think doing that.

00:48:14.520 There's three of us.

00:48:15.580 And I think we're all being able to fill up our gas tanks.

00:48:17.880 But but but that's not to say that it doesn't shock me to see see these prices and know,

00:48:23.340 you know, that when I'm hiring people, I've got I've got 20 employees when I'm hiring people.

00:48:28.700 Some of these issues, you know, they really impact them.

00:48:32.620 And and I care, you know, but I think that a lot of folks are a little bit more removed

00:48:37.140 in politics, particularly politicians who haven't really held down an honest job and

00:48:42.460 decades.

00:48:43.380 Some of them, they don't they're not in touch with average people.

00:48:46.980 They're not hearing it.

00:48:47.940 They don't spend time in their districts.

00:48:49.620 They hang out in D.C.

00:48:51.140 And they become out of touch.

00:48:54.300 And you know what?

00:48:54.820 You're describing just exactly what most men.

00:48:57.480 I truly believe this.

00:48:58.720 I think most men and women working men and women in this country think that you've just

00:49:02.560 described the ultimate stereotype, a prototype even for a Republican in this day and age.

00:49:09.160 You were talking about Youngkin, the governor elect now governor in in Virginia.

00:49:16.480 He is a plutocrat.

00:49:18.160 My God, he's as tied to the establishment as you can be.

00:49:22.820 He wouldn't endorse either Trump or his policies, but definitely, I think, ran a terrific campaign

00:49:30.960 and got elected.

00:49:31.900 But he is he's not going to be the prototype for the Republican Party if it's going to survive

00:49:36.960 and prosper, in my opinion.

00:49:38.200 I can't wait for the noblesse oblige, you know, statement from him as he deigns to take

00:49:45.680 on this, you know.

00:49:47.500 You're probably right.

00:49:48.820 You know, but so so here's the other thing that maybe some of some of your listeners may

00:49:53.400 not know, which is that the left doesn't simply rely on their elected officials in a

00:50:00.860 sense.

00:50:01.480 When you carefully look at Nancy Pelosi's various iterations over the years, she almost looks

00:50:07.260 like she's a hostage in her own party at this point.

00:50:09.620 Yes, she's, you know, aggressively wielding power and so forth.

00:50:14.560 But she's being pushed into certain positions outside her normal comfort zone of, you know,

00:50:19.340 helping out her rich buddies by forces in her party.

00:50:23.260 But who's really pulling the strings is actually billionaires through outside organizations and

00:50:31.980 so-called nonprofits.

00:50:33.020 And, you know, the Republicans have begun to connect the dots now and understand exactly

00:50:38.740 how these people are funding it.

00:50:39.940 But when you see, you know, for example, the RNC has gotten criticized in the past.

00:50:44.500 Why aren't you filing lawsuits?

00:50:46.680 OK, well, you know, first of all, if you're if you're following the rules, there are certain

00:50:51.160 caps on the money that you can spend within the party.

00:50:53.580 There's hard dollars and there's soft dollars.

00:50:56.000 The left isn't even doing their litigation through the Democratic National Committee.

00:51:00.800 So, you know, you see a lot of comparisons and I, as a member of the RNC, we see the

00:51:04.440 talking points every month.

00:51:05.520 Oh, we outraised the DNC again.

00:51:08.480 You know, we raised a lot of money.

00:51:09.480 That sounded great to me when I started until I realized that the DNC isn't even where the

00:51:13.240 money is.

00:51:13.800 The money is in slush funds of hundreds of millions of dollars that you never even hear

00:51:18.400 about.

00:51:18.740 So the Democrats don't bother with raising money into the DNC.

00:51:21.120 They do all of their stuff under cover of darkness, not on the pages of Federal Election

00:51:25.800 Commission report.

00:51:26.720 So remember 2012, Reince Priebus, as chair of the Republican National Committee, ordered

00:51:35.680 up an autopsy to find out how in the hell the Republicans lost an election, the ticket

00:51:41.500 led by Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan, how they could lose to a president with plummeting approval

00:51:49.020 ratings, an economy that was a disaster, how they could possibly lose.

00:51:54.560 Well, you know, this time the autopsy may be more literal for the Republican Party, because

00:52:00.120 if if you if you miss, I mean, it's game set over.

00:52:06.500 It is it's the end.

00:52:09.320 I really believe it because there just can't be any more of this where one party follows

00:52:15.520 rules and another sits there and, you know, it plays the role of chump.

00:52:19.800 You can't do it in perpetuity.

00:52:21.360 Right.

00:52:23.100 I mean, you know, to use President Trump's term, it looks like, you know, we kind of

00:52:26.540 choked our candidates choked and, you know, we did not go for the jugular at the times

00:52:31.360 we needed to in that campaign.

00:52:33.100 What you're seeing this year, I think it's a little less pessimistic than than than one

00:52:38.140 might hope.

00:52:38.660 If you actually look at what's happening at the state level, Lou, and I think that's

00:52:41.780 very important.

00:52:42.440 Despite what the Democrats are doing, the Republican run states are, you know, 17 of the top 20

00:52:49.360 states for job recovery since the pandemic began.

00:52:52.500 18 of those have Republican controlled legislatures.

00:52:55.360 So those are not glamorous positions being a state assemblyman or whatever it is.

00:52:59.260 But that's where the misery index is lower in states where Republicans are in charge.

00:53:04.160 And that matters.

00:53:04.840 You know, the average unemployment rate is under four percent in in the states with Republican

00:53:10.320 governors.

00:53:10.880 And that's 27 states.

00:53:11.920 So the majority of this country has, at least at that state level, Republicans are running

00:53:16.400 the show, focusing on jobs and pushing back on some of this extremism.

00:53:21.140 So I do have hope there.

00:53:23.000 I also think that while you see Republicans, you know, crowing on television, we're going

00:53:26.740 to take back the House, we're going to take back Senate, you know, whatever.

00:53:29.900 You know, I think we can.

00:53:31.980 I think we should.

00:53:32.700 I think that we'd be frankly committed malpractice if we don't.

00:53:35.340 But for me, the real question is take it back with whom?

00:53:38.380 If I have more Republicans like the ones who simply say, oh, well, we can't regulate big

00:53:42.780 tech companies.

00:53:43.440 We can't pass a user's bill of rights because, you know, that would be putting bureaucrats

00:53:48.140 in charge.

00:53:48.580 We can't have that.

00:53:49.700 They don't have any solution.

00:53:50.820 They simply have talking points from from lobbyists.

00:53:53.740 And so that's what I want to know is before I write a check to anybody is, you know, what

00:53:57.880 are you going to do differently than your predecessor?

00:53:59.900 Republicans.

00:54:00.720 And so that's the reality that people need to be asking.

00:54:03.080 The stark reality is that President Trump was the only president in my lifetime to talk

00:54:08.620 about taking on the drug cartels.

00:54:10.380 He didn't get it done because he was fought within his own party and ambitiously, venomously

00:54:16.480 and constantly by the Democratic opposition as if they had stock in the cartels.

00:54:23.060 This is, you know, he is it's still the Trump party, isn't it?

00:54:28.080 Well, I think so.

00:54:30.040 I mean, certainly from what I see and certainly a significant number of the RNC members are

00:54:35.080 certainly very supportive of Trump's agenda.

00:54:39.280 The question again is, though, as we head into 2024, we need better discipline in the party

00:54:49.140 than what we had heading into 2016.

00:54:51.580 President Trump, love him very much.

00:54:54.640 I have, you know, been close and even in legal matters with the former president.

00:55:00.820 The personnel failures, I think we have to acknowledge those and understand that if you can elect

00:55:08.700 the person with the best agenda, rhetoric and willingness, the servant's heart to make

00:55:16.280 change in this country and give up what he had to do that without the several thousand

00:55:20.940 appointees and bureaucrats around and a willing and loyal Congress and House to confirm these

00:55:27.660 people and push forward the legislative agenda, you don't have anything.

00:55:31.540 You have a bully pulpit without the ability to execute.

00:55:35.480 And hopefully that's what Joe Biden is going to have in 2023 and 2024.

00:55:42.880 But the Democrats have all of this dark money that they use.

00:55:46.760 So when you when, you know, back to my point about the RNC and filing lawsuits, in fact, they

00:55:50.200 filed a whole bunch of lawsuits.

00:55:51.500 I'm very proud of the improvement this year.

00:55:53.660 But the left doesn't bother to do it through the Democratic National Committee.

00:55:57.220 They have Mark Elias with effectively an unlimited slush fund of money to file lawsuits like they're

00:56:03.280 going out of style.

00:56:04.180 And he doesn't even care if if they win or lose.

00:56:07.520 It's just the chaos introduced.

00:56:09.920 By the way, he started complaining about some voting machines that weren't up to snuff after.

00:56:19.000 Absolutely.

00:56:19.820 I mean, it's all situational ethics.

00:56:21.480 You know, it's absolutely crazy.

00:56:24.240 It's situational ethics.

00:56:25.180 So so these guys, you know, they lose a lawsuit like literally two weeks ago.

00:56:29.680 A lawsuit gets dismissed in Arizona.

00:56:31.600 What do they do the next day?

00:56:32.940 They file the same lawsuit in Virginia.

00:56:34.540 They don't care that it's doomed to fail.

00:56:37.160 They want to make Republicans spend money and tie us up in the courts.

00:56:41.240 And by the way, we have to we have to we have to show up if we don't show up, then we lose and everything

00:56:46.860 gets permanently changed.

00:56:47.840 We have to be doing the same to them.

00:56:49.080 So that's my mission for 2022 is I'm a lawyer.

00:56:53.640 I'm a that's that's my skill.

00:56:55.140 I'm not a lobbyist or I have no desire to run for office.

00:56:57.900 I want to go and tie them up in knots in the courts and take the fight to them.

00:57:03.880 Not just to join their lawsuits, but sue them first.

00:57:07.260 Yeah.

00:57:07.440 You know, be a friend of the court.

00:57:10.500 So who is the Perkins Coy?

00:57:12.640 What firm is for the Republican Party performs the role of Perkins Coy, for example, and several

00:57:19.940 others?

00:57:20.440 And Mark Elias.

00:57:22.760 Mark Elias, because one of his partners got indicted for stuff that he was involved with,

00:57:28.860 according to the complaint, he has left Perkins Coy and he has started his own law firm,

00:57:33.920 the Elias law firm, I think.

00:57:35.680 That's why I said and Mark.

00:57:38.000 His his his ilk.

00:57:39.680 And so Perkins Coy and maybe maybe cleaning up the back end of that stuff.

00:57:43.160 We don't have that on the right.

00:57:45.600 Nobody is funding it.

00:57:46.820 You know, there have been some noises from the, you know, money, you know, the sort of

00:57:53.280 the the bundlers and the the bag men in the party to say, well, we need one of those.

00:57:58.520 We need a we need that.

00:57:59.560 I'm not sure we need a one law firm solution to this.

00:58:02.580 We need lawyers.

00:58:03.440 Let's be a good funding about it.

00:58:05.300 And let's get one law firm for the Republican Party in the West, the East, the North and the

00:58:11.260 South in the Midwest.

00:58:12.340 How's that?

00:58:13.340 We can absolutely do this with three or four law firms.

00:58:15.920 But you're watching Perkins Coy, the Democratic National Committee, the Hillary campaign

00:58:21.940 fund an absolute savage attack on the candidate of the Republican Party and ultimately the

00:58:31.280 president of the United States and the Republican RNC has done absolutely nothing to neutralize

00:58:36.980 their rancid, rotten, corrupt practices.

00:58:40.760 Well, I mean, some of us certainly have done plenty.

00:58:46.560 I feel like I have and I know there are others as well.

00:58:49.020 And I think that from what I've learned, what I mean, I've got the greatest respect for you.

00:58:55.060 You do more than any three, four, whatever the number is, Republican attorneys.

00:59:02.540 I know, and certainly anyone involved in national politics, you've got more guts, more straightforward

00:59:07.880 talk and straightforward action, whether you're, you know, defending individuals or going after

00:59:15.460 mask mandates and and other Fauci isms.

00:59:19.740 You know, and I salute you for that.

00:59:22.160 But we're talking about the Republican Party here and this, you know, I went through it

00:59:28.240 in 2020, the president of the United States arguing about these changes without the state

00:59:34.840 legislatures in election law that ultimately was the foundation of his loss, in my opinion.

00:59:41.500 You're right.

00:59:42.820 So, but I mean, I want to just hear that the Republican Party has a pulse.

00:59:47.180 That's that's all we have a pulse.

00:59:50.740 There is a plan and I would be foolish to talk about that plan in an open public setting

00:59:55.880 like this.

00:59:56.740 So I will not.

00:59:57.940 But there is a plan and and and it's not just a plan or an aspiration.

01:00:03.100 It's do or die.

01:00:04.480 We have to succeed at this plan or we can, like you said, you know, kiss everything goodbye.

01:00:10.380 We cannot continue as a country with with these circumstances.

01:00:15.120 Um, and so, you know, we have we have to do better.

01:00:18.380 We have to we the future of our country depends on depends on it.

01:00:22.740 Well, as we wrap up here, you get the last word.

01:00:25.400 Uh, and I hope you'll give us your, uh, your prediction, your forecast for the 2022 election.

01:00:32.220 Well, for the 2022 election, I think that we're well poised to have a pretty historic, um, you know,

01:00:40.000 once in a generation reversal in the house and take back the house.

01:00:45.060 But I think, like I said, the devil is in the details.

01:00:47.280 We haven't come to primary season yet.

01:00:49.720 And in states with competitive races, Republicans have choices amongst different Republicans.

01:00:53.940 So I would urge everybody listening to this broadcast to choose wisely, because when they

01:01:00.640 are elected and they survive their first year, you know, they're like cockroaches.

01:01:05.480 You cannot get rid of them.

01:01:06.560 They are they're borrowed into the they're borrowed into the building.

01:01:10.040 You cannot get rid of them unless they absolutely commit some kind of a hate crime, sex crime.

01:01:14.260 And it's also videotaped, you know, so that those are the those are the odds.

01:01:17.380 We have to choose carefully for our new members of Congress.

01:01:20.440 We have to retire some of our members of Congress.

01:01:23.180 I think Liz Cheney is acting so crazy.

01:01:25.100 And Adam Kinzinger has already announced he's he's out.

01:01:28.100 They know their time is numbered and they're just trying to do as much damage as possible

01:01:32.100 on the way out.

01:01:33.660 So that's what I think.

01:01:34.660 We can't be complacent.

01:01:35.700 Every time I hear Republicans on television say we're going to take back the house, everything's

01:01:40.000 going to be fine.

01:01:41.020 I mean, we have to say that for sales purposes, but, you know, it makes me cringe.

01:01:44.620 I mean, so the devil is really in the details of who these people are.

01:01:48.100 But I would urge everybody listening here to pay attention to the school board races.

01:01:53.140 I see a lot of positive movement in that all over the country.

01:01:56.760 Parents are fed up and Republicans playing their cards correctly in the states are trying

01:02:02.660 to move that in the direction of recruiting good candidates, running them, supporting them,

01:02:07.660 financing them.

01:02:08.460 We're beginning to take a playbook out of the left by doing that.

01:02:12.040 So that's what I think.

01:02:13.040 I think that people should focus on rebuilding and glamour.

01:02:16.160 And finally, for every Republican out there who says, I'm not going to vote because my

01:02:20.960 vote doesn't count, shame on you.

01:02:24.140 And that level of defeatism is what got us into the situation.

01:02:27.760 It got us into the situation in Georgia and has gotten us into midterm, potential midterm

01:02:33.900 losses as well.

01:02:34.920 So people need to get out there and vote, need to make a difference, need to get involved.

01:02:39.000 There is no other organization that's going to do it.

01:02:41.260 I've seen some Republican activists say, I'm leaving the Republican Party.

01:02:44.400 Republican Party is no good.

01:02:46.720 Well, guess what?

01:02:47.700 The Republican Party is really your only game in town to do some of the work that cannot

01:02:52.620 be done other than through a party.

01:02:54.760 Just, you know, picking who's on the ballot, organizing at the polls, things like that.

01:02:59.160 It just simply can't be done by ragtag bands of independent activists.

01:03:03.280 And so take over your Republican Party locally if you don't like it.

01:03:07.160 That's an option.

01:03:08.440 So get involved.

01:03:09.600 I think those are great words.

01:03:12.160 And, Harmeet, as always, great talking with you.

01:03:15.400 I look forward to seeing you here soon.

01:03:17.440 I hope you'll come back often and regularly.

01:03:22.520 Harmeet Dillon, thanks so much.

01:03:24.280 We appreciate it.

01:03:25.560 Thank you, Lou.

01:03:26.660 Join us again tomorrow for the Great America Podcast.

01:03:29.900 Stay in the fight.

01:03:30.900 Truth, justice, and the American way will prevail against all enemies, against all odds.

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01:03:36.380 We'll be right back.

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