The Great America Show - October 29, 2022


BIDEN’S BIGGEST JOKE IS THAT THE BORDER IS SECURE—A DEMONSTRABLE LIE. THE MEXICAN CARTELS CONTROL THE SOUTHERN BORDER


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Ken Cuccinelli served as Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security in the Trump administration. He was Director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services before that. Ken is a Senior Fellow for Homeland Security and Immigration at the Center for Renewing America.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and welcome to The Great America Show. Thanks for being with us today.
00:00:05.960 Good to have you with us as we celebrate truth, justice, and the American way,
00:00:10.540 which we all hope we'll have a lot more of after November 8.
00:00:14.160 Good luck to us. Good luck to America.
00:00:17.560 And suddenly it's nine days to Election Day, and guess what?
00:00:21.540 The National University and media polls have been a little off.
00:00:25.480 Turns out Republicans are doing better just about everywhere.
00:00:30.440 Than the left-wing media has been reporting.
00:00:33.120 Reporting, by the way, implies truth, so I don't want to use that word.
00:00:36.940 Let's say it this way.
00:00:38.480 Doing better than the corporate left-wing media has been alleging.
00:00:42.620 Yes, they've been lying all along and dressing up their lives with big fancy polls
00:00:47.280 based on their Marxist-dem preferences.
00:00:50.420 One of the big issues in this election is crime and the deadly drugs
00:00:54.360 that are pouring over our southern border,
00:00:56.220 along with the millions of illegal aliens that this puppet president, Biden,
00:01:01.280 and his Marxist Dems have invited into the country.
00:01:04.740 Five to six million illegals, and Biden hasn't been president for even two full years.
00:01:11.060 It's incredible.
00:01:12.320 And fentanyl is now the number one killer of Americans 18 to 45,
00:01:16.740 thanks to the Democrat Party that has aligned itself with the Mexican drug cartels.
00:01:23.520 Few people know as much about border security and illegal immigration as Ken Cuccinelli.
00:01:29.660 Ken is a senior fellow for Homeland Security and Immigration at the Center for Renewing America.
00:01:36.260 Ken served as deputy secretary of Homeland Security in the Trump administration.
00:01:40.740 He was director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services before that.
00:01:45.880 Ken, it's great to have you back with us here on the Great America Show.
00:01:49.600 Customs and Border Protection just revised their report on Border Patrol getaways
00:01:54.080 from 599,000 to 604,000.
00:02:00.200 5,000 getaways difference.
00:02:03.280 Is DHS and the CBP just trolling us with that kind of revision
00:02:07.700 for what is just a guess in the first place?
00:02:10.740 In polling, that's tighter than the margin of error.
00:02:16.400 So I don't expect them to get it exactly right.
00:02:20.820 But, yeah, that was – I mean, we're in silly territory with that.
00:02:25.620 And those are, of course, the gotaways they know about.
00:02:30.440 The ones you don't know about are equally, if not more, dangerous.
00:02:37.960 Right.
00:02:38.520 There used to be a metric at the Border Patrol 100 years ago when I was covering the border as a young reporter.
00:02:47.180 It was three to one.
00:02:48.700 For every getaway, you figure there were three plus, three times that many.
00:02:53.340 Yeah.
00:02:53.360 I don't know what it is today, but it's got to be – if anything, it's got to be higher.
00:02:59.020 And, of course, that puts it at another million or so gotaways, so – or two.
00:03:08.120 And we've already got the equivalent of more than the state of Utah having come into this country that we have – that we know about under the Biden administration with no signs that it's letting up.
00:03:21.300 And, by the way, even Democrat voters don't support this.
00:03:25.060 This isn't a Democrat-Republican thing.
00:03:27.760 This is just a radical portion of the Democrat Party that has the wheel in this administration and the AOC, Ali Mayorkas types who truly believe in open borders because they believe in undermining America, not in preserving and protecting it.
00:03:46.040 You know, I don't mean to offend anybody, but I don't believe those folks are smart enough to have come up with this.
00:03:52.460 I think that there are a group – and I've said it throughout – there are a group of Marxist Dems driving the Democratic Party and this puppet president of ours.
00:04:03.180 And only one name comes to mind when I think of anyone with the sophistication and the motivation to carry out these Marxist policies, and that's one Barack Obama.
00:04:14.260 He has to be integrally, in my opinion, integrally involved in some fashion, don't you think?
00:04:23.640 Well, certainly Mayorkas was the deputy secretary.
00:04:28.340 He had my same positions.
00:04:31.180 He was first the head of United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, the legal immigration agency, and then was the deputy secretary, which is the same two positions I had in the Trump administration.
00:04:42.600 But he was there in the Obama administration.
00:04:44.940 So they recycle him in and make him secretary, and lo and behold, he's implementing far more radical – I mean, we thought Obama was radical – far more radical policies under Joe Biden than was the case under Barack Obama, and to the point where people are legitimately talking about impeaching Mayorkas. 0.99
00:05:06.100 Yeah, they're talking about impeaching Mayorkas, but again, I guess we go to the point.
00:05:12.640 Do we really think that in that role he has the power to do that without a cabal, without a directorate guiding him in every way?
00:05:22.340 This is a president, an administration.
00:05:25.160 They are operating as if this were an out-and-out totalitarian state, and they with all of the power.
00:05:31.860 And by the way, they seem to have all of the power.
00:05:35.420 Why are we dancing around this in this country right now?
00:05:38.400 They own our government.
00:05:42.400 Yeah, they most certainly do, and they've got the Congress, both houses, barely, but they do, and they've got the administration.
00:05:53.800 And interestingly, since they can't move anything that's this radical through Congress, it's still overwhelmingly executive action.
00:06:03.040 States have done a good job of fighting back, pushing back with lawsuits and so forth, Texas first among them, but not alone.
00:06:11.720 You know, you look at Missouri.
00:06:13.020 You look at West Virginia.
00:06:14.780 I mean, we can go around the horn in South Carolina.
00:06:17.280 It's been a busy time, and it was a busy time.
00:06:21.920 I was an attorney general for Virginia when Barack Obama was president, and you remember, I've got a pen and a phone.
00:06:29.060 Well, and he was serious, but that creates opportunities for Republican state attorneys general to knock the federal government back within the boundaries of the law. 1.00
00:06:39.640 And that is happening some, but it's a very different situation in that getting a court to order an administration to obey and enforce the law, okay, you can get that, like the Remain in Mexico program, which was so effective.
00:06:56.020 Right.
00:06:56.700 But they dragged their feet.
00:06:58.820 They set up the agencies.
00:07:00.780 You look at some of these memos from ICE and CBP.
00:07:03.120 Who dragged their feet? 0.95
00:07:06.240 The administration.
00:07:08.080 You get a court order.
00:07:09.540 It says, Implement Remain in Mexico program. 0.72
00:07:12.000 Right.
00:07:12.520 Okay.
00:07:13.860 I mean, have you ever had a little kid you're told to do something they didn't want to do?
00:07:18.100 How fast, how quick are they doing that?
00:07:21.760 And at the same time, they are literally reorganizing ICE and CBP in ways to intentionally make them less effective.
00:07:35.540 It's like tying your shoelaces together before running a race.
00:07:40.020 And it's intentional.
00:07:41.660 As you said, it is intentional.
00:07:43.540 So it's a whole lot easier when they sue us to stop us from implementing a new program and some judge lets them do it.
00:07:52.700 That stops building.
00:07:55.000 But tearing down is a lot easier than building.
00:07:57.960 And that's what this administration is doing.
00:08:00.060 They're tearing down every form of protection at our border and of the American people and of this nation and of our sovereignty that they possibly can.
00:08:08.580 The borders are wide open.
00:08:10.600 They've made it very clear what they're doing.
00:08:12.400 They've told everybody to go to hell.
00:08:14.620 There's no secret here.
00:08:16.600 You know, we've got the political theater of thousands of migrants being shipped, whether it be from Florida to Martha's Vineyard, whether it be from Texas up to D.C. or New York.
00:08:30.520 But the theater isn't changing the circumstance or the trajectory of what's happening in this country.
00:08:37.560 We've got Mark Morgan, formerly the head of Customs and Border Protection, estimated there were 5 to 6 million people in this country in President Biden's first not even two years in office.
00:08:54.760 5 to 6 million illegally.
00:08:56.800 We're getting numbers like 2.2.
00:08:58.760 We're getting numbers like 604,000 getaways.
00:09:01.480 We know that's all pure bunkum because no one is keeping track because they're not close enough to the border to know what the hell is going on.
00:09:10.760 Yeah, they're too occupied providing human services instead of national security.
00:09:15.400 Exactly.
00:09:16.600 And secondly, they're also too busy being keenly aware that both sides of that border are absolutely rotten to the core corrupt.
00:09:25.460 It's not just Sonora and northern Mexico.
00:09:30.060 It is all four of our border states, and you can figure out the distance.
00:09:35.000 I don't know.
00:09:35.360 Does it penetrate 100 miles, 150 miles into the United States?
00:09:38.760 It's all controlled by the cartels, right?
00:09:42.980 Yeah, they control the border, no question about it.
00:09:46.220 And the biggest joke coming out of this administration, and that's quite a competition, is the border is secure.
00:09:54.780 And it's a demonstrable lie.
00:09:59.340 And, I mean, hypothetically, if you wanted to kill an ex-president, for instance, how would you do it?
00:10:04.660 Well, and you need associates.
00:10:06.360 Well, I'd bring them across the border.
00:10:08.400 Well, lo and behold, the FBI broke up just such an undertaking.
00:10:12.860 And the point here is they all know it's easy to cross that border.
00:10:16.960 And those are the dumb ones.
00:10:19.280 I'm not as worried about the dumb ones.
00:10:22.280 I'm worried about the smart ones.
00:10:24.920 And it's very easy for them to get over here.
00:10:29.080 Well, I was going to say, they're the ones getting away.
00:10:32.360 Our Border Patrol is doing jack squat.
00:10:34.660 But let's get real here.
00:10:36.920 We have a national emergency, but it has no semblance to the one that Joe Biden wants to talk about, which is not true, is not real.
00:10:48.200 The one on our border is real.
00:10:50.400 The death of the poisonings of hundreds of thousands of Americans by people and opiates is real. 0.80
00:10:56.780 And there's no game here.
00:10:58.940 There's no question.
00:11:00.340 This is existential circumstance.
00:11:04.100 And it's as if both parties are willing to ignore that reality.
00:11:09.400 Tell me I'm wrong.
00:11:10.500 No, I'm not going to tell you you're wrong.
00:11:13.300 You know that.
00:11:14.180 And, I mean, the Republicans are talking tough now like they always do in the minority.
00:11:20.400 It's easy to talk tough in the minority.
00:11:22.940 What are you going to do when you actually get the majority?
00:11:25.560 And it looks like, if I had to bet, I would bet that they're going to have a fairly strong majority in the House and a thin but Republican majority in the Senate.
00:11:37.060 So on the budget front, they have power.
00:11:40.980 They can put budget riders that stop all of the crazy regulatory efforts of the Biden administration in their tracks.
00:11:49.440 They just specifically say this money can't be used to do X, and it stops it in its tracks.
00:11:55.100 But they've never done it in the past, ever.
00:11:58.980 So we'll see if they use that power to do it now.
00:12:02.960 Donald Trump, President Trump tried to put up a wall, was fought at every step of the way by the establishment Republican Party.
00:12:10.160 And they were just as effective as the left in stopping border security and now responsible for what we're witnessing.
00:12:20.940 I don't see a way forward.
00:12:22.840 I don't see a way out, given the leadership of the Republican Party as it stands between now and 2024.
00:12:30.100 Give us hope.
00:12:33.880 Well, I think Donald Trump changed the GOP in a number of ways.
00:12:39.800 And one of the ways is, and you mentioned 2024.
00:12:42.700 I'll mention it.
00:12:43.480 Let's set him aside for the moment, for the future, just for purposes of discussion.
00:12:47.860 No Republican nominee.
00:12:50.620 I'm sorry.
00:12:51.600 No Republican will become the nominee for president in the foreseeable future without a tough on illegal immigration 0.80
00:12:59.500 and a fairly strong position on legal immigration that's protective of American workers, something you've talked a lot about, and so have I.
00:13:08.220 But I think it might just be you and me in a phone booth on that one.
00:13:11.680 But they're not – it's not going to happen.
00:13:15.760 Donald Trump changed that.
00:13:18.120 He changed that.
00:13:19.580 None of the Bushes were strong on this.
00:13:21.580 Reagan, as great as he was, gave us the 1986 amnesty.
00:13:25.780 And, you know, that didn't – as Dr. Phil would say how that worked out for you, it didn't.
00:13:31.560 And I think that dribbles down to some of these congressional and Senate races.
00:13:37.940 The old bulls who've been there since before the last decade are in the same corporate Chamber of Commerce position they've always been,
00:13:48.140 and that's who they're going to support.
00:13:49.400 But new people coming along are typically not getting nominated or elected without a strong position on this.
00:13:59.520 Now, just like the Republicans and the minority, it's one thing to say it and another thing to do it.
00:14:04.200 Look at Marco Rubio back with the Gang of Eight in 2012.
00:14:07.920 Compare that to what he talked about when he first ran in his incredible campaign in 2010, night and day.
00:14:16.000 And so we do lose people that way.
00:14:17.740 But it's getting better.
00:14:18.700 It's getting better.
00:14:19.820 The question is, when will the lower portions, junior portions of the Republican caucuses, literally hold the leadership accountable?
00:14:29.320 Say, you won't be the leadership without this.
00:14:32.280 That's what I'm looking for.
00:14:34.540 Well, if you're looking for it in the Senate, that means Mitch McConnell has to change.
00:14:39.180 He has to have a metamorphosis of unprecedented proportions.
00:14:43.500 I'll put it that way.
00:14:44.880 Are you really hopeful that that will occur?
00:14:46.860 No, I'm not really hopeful that Mitch McConnell will have a metamorphosis, but that, you know, once you get, say, 30 Republicans who've had a metamorphosis in that caucus, he wants to stay the leader.
00:15:01.560 And, I mean, I've seen this in my home state as well at the state level, and he will adjust to stay the leader.
00:15:09.600 And if that's what he has to do to adjust, he'll do it.
00:15:12.500 The question is, are we electing enough people who are going to push him in that direction?
00:15:16.800 Yeah, my feeling is, if you've got that many people elected, why the hell put up with Mitch McConnell?
00:15:23.200 We know what he is.
00:15:24.160 We know who he is.
00:15:25.880 Why not put in a new leader who understands what America first means and what making America great requires?
00:15:32.960 Well, that would be nice, and, you know, in my prior role leading the Senate Conservatives Fund, which is the leading conservative pack on the Senate that actually takes on the leadership, I did that for five years.
00:15:49.960 And, you know, we elected people like Mike Lee, Ted Cruz, Tom Cotton, and others up through the years, and if you look at the caucus, they're the best 10 or 12 you've got, but we need to double that number before you're really going to move the needle.
00:16:10.580 It comes from the caucus.
00:16:11.800 I don't – the process of someone becoming a leadership involves them selling their soul too completely for me to hope that we're going to get a leader that's going to be, as you described.
00:16:25.620 It's more that we're going to get somebody who's transactional enough that they want to remain the leader, and so they're willing to simply do what the majority of their caucus is pressing them to do on the immigration front.
00:16:38.100 That's the only way I see this happening.
00:16:40.360 All right.
00:16:40.980 You're being pragmatic, and I understand that, and I think that's smart.
00:16:45.500 But what I have trouble understanding is how the Republican Party can even look voters in the face come this November without any kind of statement from leadership, from the party, in any form, talking about what is happening in real time, in real politic, and namely, that that border is wide open.
00:17:10.120 That we are permitting the poisoning of hundreds of thousands of Americans, the killing, the murder by the drug cartels in cooperation and conjunction with the communist Chinese who are manufacturing the product. 0.98
00:17:25.340 In fact, they send their chemists here to do so, and transport by the millions of pills, fentanyl, to kill Americans.
00:17:33.080 It's a straightforward purpose.
00:17:34.500 We have our State Department has up travel alerts now in Mexico for Americans not to go because of the violence and the cartel violence.
00:17:45.880 But we have no foreign policy toward Mexico and show absolutely no inclination to take on the cartels, except Greg Abbott the other day said that they were going to identify them as far as organizations.
00:18:02.660 Yeah, but it has no legal effect.
00:18:06.420 It's kind of a photo op.
00:18:07.920 Right.
00:18:08.300 Look, this is a bipartisan failure through the years.
00:18:14.160 Mexico is obviously a proud country with a great history, but in no part of its history has it ever controlled 100% of its own territory.
00:18:25.580 This is how the cartels control the border.
00:18:28.340 This is a 2,000-mile-long border that the cartels control on the Mexican side, not the Mexican government.
00:18:35.240 And they control swaths of Mexico. 0.82
00:18:38.040 And we should treat them as the quasi-governments using terrorist tactics that they are.
00:18:43.460 And we need to get much more aggressive with the cartels financially and physically.
00:18:49.260 And, you know, I have to say, as I heard you describe Mexico, whole swaths not under the control of the Mexican government.
00:18:57.180 Correct.
00:18:57.700 Sounds like you're describing the United States as well, because we don't control the border.
00:19:02.120 We don't control the southern parts of those four border states that are north of the border.
00:19:09.460 We don't control sanctuary cities.
00:19:11.800 We don't control our own immigration program.
00:19:14.420 Our own government is flying illegal immigrants across the country in the dark of night to settle them in towns and villages and cities in which the governments don't even know they've arrived. 0.99
00:19:28.700 I mean, this is the balkanization of America.
00:19:35.300 Well, and it's intentional.
00:19:37.720 It's policy by the Stalinist left of the Democrat Party.
00:19:41.440 And I will say, you and I were joking about joking before we got on the air.
00:19:45.880 And I will say it is mildly amusing to see people who were shuffling illegals around under the dark of night a year ago screaming bloody murder when Greg Abbott, Doug Ducey, and Ron DeSantis do it in the plain light of day and do a few dozen of them,
00:20:04.300 but to their select, posh, elitist locales that are just for virtue signaling, not for actually helping, i.e., Martha's Vineyard, that there is at least some humor within the misery.
00:20:20.840 Well, we have to look for it, but it's there.
00:20:26.000 And mostly in heaping portions of just outright absurdity and tragedy.
00:20:31.860 Ken Cotinale, always great to have you with us here.
00:20:34.780 Thanks for joining us here on The Great America Show.
00:20:38.060 Great to be with you, Lou, as always.
00:20:41.200 Thanks, everybody, for being with us.
00:20:42.960 And please join us tomorrow for one of the very best pollsters in the country and a great American.
00:20:49.000 We'll have a straightforward assessment of just how well Republicans are doing in this election.
00:20:54.580 And let me tell you, it's a lot better than the corporate left-wing media would have you believe.
00:21:00.140 Please join us here tomorrow.
00:21:02.400 Till then, God bless you, and God bless America.