The Great America Show - June 20, 2023


BIDEN’S FOREIGN POLICIES EXPOSED AS LIES


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Former AG Bill Barr on CBS's Face the Nation says President Trump should lose his constitutional rights if he s nominated for the 2020 Republican presidential nomination. Bill Barr is a narcissist who will always put his own interests and gratifying his ego ahead of the country s interests.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and this is The Great America Show. Great to have you
00:00:07.820 with us. Welcome. The Marxist Dems are doing their worst, as usual, and President Trump's
00:00:13.400 polling numbers keep rising. A Rasmussen poll shows President Trump beating Joe Biden by
00:00:19.360 six points. The rhinos and the Marxist left all must be going nuts right now. The establishment
00:00:26.060 of both parties trying to stop President Trump at any cost, circulating their talking points
00:00:32.280 furiously, and it all having no effect. Here's former Attorney General Bill Barr on CBS's
00:00:39.140 Face the Nation over the weekend, running with those talking points. President Trump's former
00:00:44.760 Attorney General pretending that a flawed citizen, as he put it, should lose their constitutional
00:00:50.300 rights. If that were the case, Barr would be zeroed out by now. Here he is.
00:00:56.060 You say Trump's alleged conduct is indefensible. So many Republicans continue to defend him.
00:01:00.760 What will it say if the party, your longtime party, puts him forward as their nominee?
00:01:05.360 Well, that's the problem. I don't think they're actually defending his conduct, but they are
00:01:08.680 saying it's unfair to prosecute him. But that then raises another question. Okay, if it's
00:01:13.600 unfair to prosecute him, that's not the whole answer. The question is, should we be putting
00:01:17.800 someone like this forward as the leader of the country, leader of the free world who's
00:01:22.440 engaged in this kind of conduct? The other thing is, this is not just an isolated example.
00:01:28.000 Trump has many good qualities, and he accomplished some good things. But the fact of the matter
00:01:33.640 is, he is a consummate narcissist. And he constantly engages in reckless conduct that puts his political
00:01:44.780 followers at risk and the conservative and Republican agenda at risk.
00:01:49.120 Would he put the country at risk if he was in the White House again?
00:01:51.460 He will always put his own interests and gratifying his own ego ahead of everything else,
00:01:56.140 including the country's interests. There's no question about it. This is a perfect example of
00:02:00.020 that. He's like a nine-year-old, a defiant nine-year-old kid who's always pushing the glass
00:02:04.460 toward the edge of the table, defying his parents to stop him from doing it. It's a means of self-assertion
00:02:09.860 and exerting his dominance over other people. And he's a very petty individual who will always put
00:02:16.220 his interests ahead of the country's, his personal gratification of his, you know, of his ego. But
00:02:21.860 our country, our country can't, you know, can't be a therapy session for, you know, a troubled man like 1.00
00:02:27.440 this. Bill Barr portraying himself to be a great American with great values. But Bill Barr is far from
00:02:34.520 that. He is indeed very flawed. First, under Barr's leadership, American cities in 2020 burned for
00:02:43.180 six straight months by Black Lives Matter and Antifa riots, all without prosecution. Under Barr's
00:02:50.580 leadership, the FBI had credible evidence that President Biden was compromised by a $10 million
00:02:56.820 Ukrainian bribery scheme. Under Barr's leadership, he watched presidential candidate Biden stand on a
00:03:03.880 debate stage and lie to the American people, saying that his son's laptop was Russian disinformation.
00:03:10.960 Barr refused to intervene even though he knew he was lying. And by refusing to intervene,
00:03:17.140 Barr sided with Biden in the election. Bill Barr's FBI conspired with and exploited Twitter and other
00:03:24.020 social media to censure and spy on conservative voices. And under Barr's leadership, he watched a
00:03:30.800 rig election take place and he lied about an investigation of that election that never took
00:03:37.200 place. Obviously, Barr has the establishment's talking points. Chris Christie using the same language
00:03:43.900 on CNN's State of the Union as he continued his attacks against President Trump.
00:03:50.220 Republicans should listen to what he says. He's a petulant child when someone disagrees with him.
00:03:55.940 And whether it's Bill Barr or John Kelly or General Mattis, whether it is Mick Mulvaney or whether it's
00:04:02.140 General Milley, if you disagree with Donald Trump, the petulant child comes out and he calls you names
00:04:09.920 like the ones you just mentioned and the ones I mentioned. Chris Christie was good enough,
00:04:14.860 at least, to give a shout out to his buddy Bill Barr. And turning to foreign policy, the Biden regime
00:04:22.340 overturning its China policy and the implicit U.S. policy toward Taiwan for decades. Secretary of State
00:04:30.480 Antony Blinken in China assuring dictator Xi Jinping that the United States would no longer honor its
00:04:38.320 longstanding Taiwan policy. On Taiwan, I reiterated the longstanding U.S. one China policy.
00:04:45.120 That policy has not changed. It's guided by the Taiwan Relations Act, the three joint communiques,
00:04:52.200 the six assurances. We do not support Taiwan independence. We remain opposed to any unilateral
00:04:58.000 changes to the status quo by either side. We continue to expect the peaceful resolution of
00:05:03.700 cross-strait differences. We remain committed to meeting our responsibilities under the Taiwan
00:05:08.600 Relations Act, including making sure that Taiwan has the ability to defend itself.
00:05:12.960 The Biden presidency looks more compromised by the Chinese than ever, doesn't it? Approving 1.00
00:05:19.200 China's purchase of American farmland, building EV battery factories in the United States,
00:05:25.600 selling U.S. advanced technology to China, even selling China oil from our strategic petroleum reserve.
00:05:33.020 And now Biden's Secretary of State effectively giving Xi Jinping the green light to invade Taiwan.
00:05:41.200 The Taiwanese must be astonished and beyond upset by the sudden Biden reversal of U.S. support for
00:05:49.160 their defense. And it was only nine months ago that President Biden assured 60 Minutes Scott Pelley
00:05:55.820 that the United States would defend our longtime ally, Taiwan.
00:06:01.060 What should Chinese President Xi know about your commitment to Taiwan?
00:06:07.760 We agree with what we signed on to a long time ago and that there's a one China policy and Taiwan makes 0.92
00:06:15.060 their own judgments about their independence. We are not moving. We're not encouraging their being
00:06:20.240 independent. We're not to let that's their decision. But would U.S. forces defend the island?
00:06:25.660 Yes. If in fact there was an unprecedented attack. After our interview, a White House official told us U.S.
00:06:32.240 policy has not changed. Officially, the U.S. will not say whether American forces would defend Taiwan.
00:06:40.920 But the commander in chief had a view of his own.
00:06:44.320 So unlike Ukraine, to be clear, sir, U.S. forces, U.S. men and women would defend Taiwan in the event of a
00:06:52.720 Chinese invasion. Yes. 0.88
00:06:54.340 The Biden regime is continuing its rollback of U.S. security for our allies that began with the Obama
00:07:01.500 administration when President Obama faintly at least observed the Monroe Doctrine assuring no
00:07:08.020 intervention in the Western Hemisphere by any nation outside the hemisphere. To take up this confusing and
00:07:14.660 concerning moment in U.S. foreign policy is professor and author Paul Bracken, Yale professor emeritus.
00:07:21.620 Paul, great to have you back with us on the show. I'd like to start with what we just heard from the
00:07:26.700 Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, that the United States will no longer support the independence of
00:07:33.620 Taiwan. In a very technical, legalistic, and not important sense, it's consistent with longstanding
00:07:42.680 U.S. policy going back to Nixon's trip to China. But it isn't really U.S. policy because in
00:07:51.540 the last few years, we've been turning the Taiwan situation into the test of American resolve for
00:07:58.980 holding the free world together. So for Secretary Blinken to announce that we no longer support
00:08:05.300 independence for Taiwan is going to be a huge signal both to the allies and I'll tell you something else.
00:08:12.020 It's going to be a big shock to the Pentagon because they've been running war games with think tanks and
00:08:19.620 private secret war games. And they just think the Chinese are about to attack Taiwan. And then for 0.60
00:08:26.100 them to get this message that it's at least politically more complicated and they can't be sure that they're
00:08:32.260 going to get released to do the military things they want to do, it's going to cause a lot of friction
00:08:39.300 inside the beltway.
00:08:41.640 Well, friction and certainly confusion, because as you say, military planning that has been going on for
00:08:50.280 years, irrespective of the administration, has been the support, military support for Taiwan, should there be
00:08:57.080 an invasion, tacit, unspoken, but definitely the stance of the United States, correct?
00:09:06.520 Absolutely correct. And it's been increasing in the last few years.
00:09:10.220 Well, the DOD has gotten this message, so they're going to be, I think you chose the correct word,
00:09:18.620 confused, and in some sense, alarmed. And they're already alarmed because of certain attributes
00:09:27.340 of this administration that it doesn't, well, what shall we say, have its act altogether for various reasons.
00:09:34.460 Well, this is alarming, I think, to everyone who is focused on this country's sovereignty and the
00:09:43.420 defense of this country, because this throws open the South China Sea. It throws open, of course,
00:09:50.940 Taiwan. It also means that across the Indo-Pacific, that the United States has basically exceeded
00:09:59.180 to hegemony for China throughout the continent, does it not?
00:10:08.140 Well, that's what the allies are certainly going to think. And I'm not sure it's hegemony. It
00:10:15.580 certainly is with respect to the defense of Taiwan. I mean, I can imagine what's going on in Taiwan today.
00:10:22.780 That must be like really pulling their hair out right now. But I think it gives China a much freer 0.73
00:10:31.580 reign. It's almost an official acceptance of the Chinese military buildup. I think it's almost a
00:10:42.380 statement of that the US can't handle all of these confrontations at the same time. Let's not
00:10:49.740 not forget North Korea here. It may be off the news today. But you've got a lot of developments
00:10:55.420 in the Middle East. You've got attempts to have a tacit agreement with Iran. And we could go on and
00:11:01.740 on. But there's going to be a lot of confusion. And it looks like really nobody's in charge with
00:11:07.820 these things that the administration is having to back down the rhetoric they've been talking about
00:11:13.580 for the last two years. Remember the human rights emphasis, we're going to isolate Saudi Arabia. 1.00
00:11:20.140 Now, where did that go? Right. And where did human rights go? In China. Now, no posture by any
00:11:31.020 administration has meant anything over the course of the past 20 years when it comes to human rights in
00:11:36.940 China. And and and in the Middle East, the same is true. It's the human rights is no longer coupled 0.88
00:11:46.780 with any sort of US foreign policy, is it? I think that's right. And I think we have no idea how to
00:11:58.700 increase human rights in China or really in most countries. But it's really designed to appeal to
00:12:09.340 the American electorate and particularly a certain kind of class of the American elite where it sells
00:12:15.740 very well and gets you to think about other issues away from security, Iran getting a nuclear weapon,
00:12:25.180 and North Korea probably having something like a hundred nuclear weapons today. And we could go on.
00:12:32.540 Incredible. And there is one news development in that and that we have
00:12:38.220 sent out one of our most advanced nuclear submarines armed to the teeth just because of the the missile
00:12:46.780 development and launches by North Korea. So tensions are rising in in the area
00:12:54.940 for a host of reasons. And this administration seems to be utterly bereft of a comprehensive
00:13:05.260 even not forget a comprehensive just any kind of strategy that it can articulate
00:13:11.260 whatsoever about what it will do in any region of the world, whether it be in Europe, whether it be
00:13:18.620 Russia, whether it be the Middle East, whether it be Iran, whether it be North Korea and China itself.
00:13:25.260 The United States is flailing here. This this foreign policy team of this impaired president 1.00
00:13:32.380 is is looks to be on about the same intellectual level as their commander in chief.
00:13:39.020 I think that's right. And I think the real purpose of the secretary Blinken's trip to Beijing
00:13:45.260 was to get the Chinese to cool it, saying that we would cool it. We've got to lower the temperature. 0.99
00:13:53.820 Blinken is saying to President Xi, because we don't want this thing to spin out of control
00:13:59.740 because we don't know what we're doing now. If this intensifies, we're going to really be in trouble.
00:14:06.780 I've long held that the real fear of the power of the foreign policy team in this administration.
00:14:14.220 It's a super version of the Afghan exit crisis. But with China, which is a much stronger, heavily armed country, 0.89
00:14:25.340 or possibly Iran or North Korea, they're backing away from crises now because they don't want to have
00:14:32.140 a spectacular disaster going into an election year. And I think, actually, more importantly,
00:14:38.060 their big fear is looking bad because they don't know how to manage these things. And so they're sending
00:14:45.420 out these messages to everyone who is our enemy to cool it. And if if they believe that China,
00:14:55.500 Xi Jinping will respond to their their their plea to cool it. I don't understand why they would think
00:15:04.860 that he would listen at this point because simply put, he's more bellicose than he's ever been.
00:15:11.500 He is talking about a war by 2025, telling his military and his nation to be prepared for the worst
00:15:19.580 possible scenario. And we're watching the development of his entire military speed, speed ahead. This is a
00:15:31.260 man preparing for war, is it not? They are preparing for war. They have a huge military buildup.
00:15:38.540 What people are not talking about is an enormous nuclear weapons buildup that is is underway in
00:15:46.540 China. I mean, this isn't hypothetical. We have pictures of the silos being dug out.
00:15:53.260 And he is preparing for a much stronger China that's going to use its weight in world affairs. 0.82
00:16:04.300 And everyone knows, including everyone in China, that Taiwan is the number one priority for them.
00:16:11.180 Now, this could be lead to a number of years in like I make a distinction between
00:16:17.020 force and power. Force is when, let's say a cat catches a mouse and he just eats it. That's force.
00:16:26.700 Power is when the cat plays with the mouse. He drops it, lets it try to get away.
00:16:34.140 And I can see China like playing with Taiwan for a number of years as a way to weaken the will of 0.89
00:16:41.420 both Americans and Taiwanese to come to their defense. So there are two different options.
00:16:48.620 They're both bad for the people of Taiwan and for the free world. But there are distinctions that I 1.00
00:16:55.500 think are worth making. I think they're very important distinctions. And I think there is a
00:17:00.300 very important analog that's being constructed for the American people. If anyone does not see
00:17:05.500 what is happening with it's a result in part of Biden foreign policy and the strategy employed,
00:17:13.980 as you're pointing out, as Professor Bracken is pointing out about the distinction between power,
00:17:21.180 force and the target. When we come back, we're going to be talking about a new target,
00:17:26.220 the target for the Chinese. We'll be back with Professor Paul Bracken in just a moment. Stay with us. 1.00
00:17:35.500 We're back with Yale University Professor Emeritus and author Paul Bracken. Paul, we were talking
00:17:45.420 about, you were talking about force and power and the distinction and Taiwan. Let's bring it to our
00:17:54.220 hemisphere. And suddenly we have an administration denying that there are negotiations between Cuba and
00:18:01.180 China for the building of what is to be a sizable spy base in Cuba. Your reaction first to the news and
00:18:12.860 secondly, why in the world would the administration lie about such a thing initially? Well, the Chinese are 1.00
00:18:19.580 building a large intelligence facility in Cuba. And the reason is they want to get close into American
00:18:29.820 telecommunications traffic where getting close to the target is very important. This is similar to the
00:18:38.380 balloon overflights of a few months ago. The value of a balloon is that it borders over the target.
00:18:46.140 So you can listen in for an hour or a couple of hours. It's harder to do that with a satellite.
00:18:55.180 I don't have the inside story, but I wouldn't be surprised. I'm sure the CIA was aware of this
00:19:02.380 Chinese facility under construction. But I'm not sure that people at the top of the government even pay
00:19:08.140 attention to pay attention to the president's daily brief because they think they're playing a higher
00:19:13.660 level game. And they understand their problem is with the media and with the American people.
00:19:21.420 And so it just didn't get on their radar screen. So when they were first brought to their attention,
00:19:30.140 they said probably quite correctly that, well, I didn't hear about this thing, so I guess it doesn't
00:19:35.660 exist. And I would ask us to think about maybe five or six more things that are not getting the
00:19:44.700 attention. And like the dog not barking in the story, that's what we should be worried about.
00:19:56.300 And that could be fentanyl drugs coming in to the United States, could be the Chinese nuclear buildup, 0.83
00:20:04.140 which since it was announced, you don't really hear much about anymore.
00:20:07.500 But we have to ask, like, things of omission and things of commission.
00:20:14.700 In Washington, it's making a lot of mistakes, but I'm more worried about what they're not even aware
00:20:19.820 of. And I happen to be one of those that perhaps I'm guilty of assuming that despite the fact that
00:20:27.340 they're not talking about it publicly, do not appear to be engaged. I personally,
00:20:34.220 I can't imagine the intelligence services being so inept that they are not creating contingency plans
00:20:44.380 with the military, of course, for exigencies as they occur. Let's talk about you mentioned fentanyl.
00:20:51.740 There's been no public statement by this administration whatsoever about the death of 100,000 Americans to
00:20:58.860 primarily fentanyl. As the Chinese work in league with the Mexican drug cartels, international narco 0.99
00:21:06.940 organizations, if you will. But whatever you call them, the cartels, you know, terrorist organizations,
00:21:14.220 they're working in league with the Chinese and killing Americans. And there's not even a statement of 1.00
00:21:18.780 threat or any plan for retribution and penalty for doing so. It's astounding how inert this administration is.
00:21:31.740 Yeah, I just don't understand that. I mean, it's not just Mexico, but it's all of Latin America
00:21:41.580 is really in problematic form right now. And in Mexico itself, you have a situation where the drug cartels,
00:21:50.300 which are in bed with the Chinese as their principal suppliers, it's had wide-ranging impacts,
00:21:58.860 making a government which was leaning toward corruption ever more corrupt. You've turned the police,
00:22:06.220 the federales, and the Mexican military into sort of agents of this process. What I'm saying is the
00:22:15.660 effect of this on a net assessment point of view is to weaken the Mexican government like in any area.
00:22:23.500 And that's going to go very poorly for controlling immigration or cutting down drugs in the future.
00:22:29.900 It's almost the opposite of what their declaratory policy is, which is to go to the source
00:22:37.180 and create conditions so there's no need for immigration to cross the border.
00:22:44.700 And it's almost the opposite of that, really. I mean, it's a really tough time for the United States. It really is.
00:22:52.220 It is a tough time. And would you agree with me that the time started, I would say, just about two and a half years ago?
00:23:03.260 I think the rock goes back deeper than that to previous administrations.
00:23:08.060 And there's a lot of culpable institutions for this, from the government itself and how you get promoted to universities,
00:23:24.220 training people to supply system for putting people into the government.
00:23:28.860 And then you have the political process itself. I think it's gotten a lot worse in the last two years.
00:23:37.340 Because, well, for I think obvious reasons, you have a president who isn't all there.
00:23:44.140 You have a foreign policy team, which is really not as strong as, you know, Republican or Democratic teams in previous administrations.
00:23:53.740 So, yeah, I think it has gotten considerably worse in the last couple of years.
00:24:02.460 Yeah, I think I would agree with you. It's been a longstanding series of misjudgments about how to deal with the Mexican immigration drug problems that are now our problems.
00:24:17.140 It has also been a real issue with our foreign policy in the hemisphere.
00:24:23.780 Iran at this very moment is trying to make, obviously, inroads with the Venezuelans.
00:24:30.580 China is throughout Central America. Venezuela as well. And obviously, Mexico.
00:24:40.260 So, as we look at this, there's just no response. There is no policy, no programmatic response.
00:24:46.460 There is no even rhetorical response on the part of the administration.
00:24:52.560 Meanwhile, in the Middle East, where it looks as though we are trying to destabilize the Middle East by the effrontery of this administration when it came first to Saudi Arabia.
00:25:05.020 And secondly, with Israel. Now, we understand that they're still in strong negotiations with Iran and moving money to Iran to pursue the Obama version of an Iran deal.
00:25:24.500 They're trying their best to put a nuclear weapon in the hands of Iran, for crying out loud. 0.84
00:25:32.560 Your reaction?
00:25:33.880 Yeah, for me, the most, for me personally, stunning revelation over the past two weeks in this incredible news cycle that we've been in,
00:25:45.360 used when I learned that they moved $2 billion, that they gave it to Tehran.
00:25:51.900 Now, technically, these are loans from the United States to Iraq, but Iraq was able to transfer the money to Tehran.
00:25:58.780 They clearly know what's going on.
00:26:02.060 Because over the last 10 to 20 years, because of the terrorism threat, the institutional apparatus in Washington for economic and financial warfare has grown enormously.
00:26:15.720 And we have a better sense of what's going on.
00:26:19.080 So you can't tell me that we were unaware of this, that it's on technicality.
00:26:23.260 So this had to be known and approved at the White House.
00:26:29.760 I think this is something that simply is not going to fly.
00:26:32.740 That whatever you think of Congress and, you know, your judgment, if they all stand up to something,
00:26:39.360 I just don't think the idea of us giving money to a nuclear weapon-seeking Iran is going to fly. 0.98
00:26:46.880 And, you know, I don't, it's not the Israeli lobby that's going to block this thing.
00:26:53.220 It's going to be the U.S. Congress, I think.
00:26:55.780 I think it'll have to be if it's to succeed.
00:26:58.800 We're talking with professor and author Paul Bracken.
00:27:02.720 Stay with us.
00:27:03.780 We'll be right back after these quick messages.
00:27:05.900 And we will take up what will be the impact of all that is happening in this cauldron of foreign policy.
00:27:14.700 We're talking with Paul Bracken.
00:27:16.400 We'll be right back.
00:27:17.580 Stay with us.
00:27:23.900 We're back talking with professor Paul Bracken.
00:27:26.480 And, Paul, I just want to turn to one of your many areas of expertise is in nuclear weaponry and strategic nuclear policy.
00:27:39.340 We are watching this administration send off an arm to the teeth nuclear submarine,
00:27:46.760 arm to the teeth with nuclear missile, nuclear warheads and missiles.
00:27:51.240 We are watching in terms of China, their support for Russia, Russia moving nuclear weapons into Belarus.
00:28:01.480 Obviously, they have tactical weapons on their eastern Russia's eastern frontier, not far from Ukraine.
00:28:10.620 Yet they have at least to this point shown constraint in that regard, at least.
00:28:16.020 And now Iran.
00:28:17.800 This administration seems hell-bent on giving nuclear weapons, go-ahead for nuclear weapons, to Iran.
00:28:28.340 How is this going to play out in this election season when we have very little indication of policy except from one candidate,
00:28:37.660 and that's Donald Trump, because he at least has a record?
00:28:40.440 Well, from a tactical election point of view, I think we're going to see more of what they've done,
00:28:48.500 which is they call it a proximity deal.
00:28:51.360 What does that mean?
00:28:52.860 It's that you take certain issues that are near each other, like money we give to Iran,
00:29:00.200 Iran's uranium enrichment levels, which are at something like 60%.
00:29:07.840 And when you go to 90%, you have bomb-grade material.
00:29:12.940 And you just have a tacit agreement saying, here's the money.
00:29:17.820 We're going to allow you to take this money through a conduit in Iraq.
00:29:23.520 You don't enrich the uranium anymore, and then we will go on television and declare that there's no connection between these two issues.
00:29:35.660 That's how they're going to handle it.
00:29:38.200 Now, you mentioned the submarine visit to South Korea, a U.S. nuclear weapon-carrying submarine.
00:29:45.500 I'll just point out, there's an interesting detail here.
00:29:49.320 We have been flying B-52s and B-1s, which are nuclear-capable, over South Korea as a signal to the North Koreans. 0.94
00:30:00.800 And I think we've concluded that it hasn't made a damn bit of difference.
00:30:04.780 They continue to test these missiles.
00:30:07.280 They're building a physics package to shrink the warhead.
00:30:10.300 So we took really a major step, but having a U.S. nuclear submarine rise above the water and come into port, I can't think of another instance where that has happened.
00:30:26.440 Because the bombers did not have nuclear weapons aboard, trust me.
00:30:31.880 The submarines do.
00:30:33.780 But this is not coherently integrated with the other issues you're raising, like Iran.
00:30:41.060 An obvious question is, where is this going?
00:30:44.460 What is the long-term plan for the United States to deal with a multi-nuclear world?
00:30:52.240 What are we going to do?
00:30:53.920 I don't even need an answer.
00:30:55.340 I would just like reassurance that somebody's thinking about this seriously.
00:31:01.120 And I don't see that.
00:31:02.200 That's frightening, what you just said.
00:31:05.020 To think that you, of all people, can't think of someone thinking about this multi-nuclear polar world that we are now in.
00:31:15.680 It just depends on how many nations end up with these weapons.
00:31:19.800 To think that we don't have that kind of expertise, that kind of knowledge, that kind of forward thinking.
00:31:27.580 In academia, we don't have it in think tanks.
00:31:30.840 What in the world are we doing with our universities and with our think tanks and our federal government?
00:31:38.880 Because we have such weak leadership.
00:31:41.200 I'm going to say that just out loud for everybody.
00:31:43.980 Our civilian leadership of this government is so weak and perverse that I don't think there's any way in which they could stand up to a single threat, let alone multiple.
00:31:55.840 Your thoughts?
00:31:58.600 I find that the best thinking on this is neither in universities nor in the so-called think tanks, but rather in the military itself.
00:32:11.920 I find that if you go into the Air Force, into the Navy, into the Army, and you get down like two stars, one star colonels, that's where I find the most creative thinking is going on, where they actually accept the world that we're going into.
00:32:29.780 I mean, they don't like it, but they're saying we can't change it.
00:32:33.380 We better learn to live with it.
00:32:34.820 And that really doesn't become public all that much.
00:32:40.660 If you look at the same thing was happening with the Australian nuclear sub deal, it was really the Australian military that, well, with this idea, not the politicians.
00:32:52.900 So, you know, after World War II, we had think tanks, and they sort of rose to the occasion.
00:33:02.020 I think you're seeing the U.S. military, some elements of the officer corps, some of their war colleges, et cetera, are rising to the occasion with very bold, creative ideas that are not getting the hearing that they should.
00:33:19.300 Well, hearing from our Congress, from our Senate, our White House, or hearing from the senior officers, the command officers, the general staff, which is it?
00:33:36.180 Or should they be heard first?
00:33:37.300 I would say that it's, you know, as I said, two-star, one-star people, maybe some support elements of the joint staff in the Pentagon.
00:33:48.820 Okay, another source of real pressure to think these things through is the Senate Armed Services Committee Nuclear Subcommittee.
00:33:57.420 Because when the commanders of Stratcom and the Navy nuclear people come in, they're really getting hard questions from these leaders and their support comes from, saying, well, have you thought about this, and why haven't you thought about that?
00:34:14.900 And I find, at that level, there's a surprising amount of bipartisan support, like in the nuclear modernization.
00:34:26.040 Remember, we go back 10 years, President Obama was going to eliminate nuclear weapons.
00:34:32.120 He was going to abolish them around the world.
00:34:33.940 Well, and look how quickly we did 180 degrees, launching into the nuclear modernization that we are doing.
00:34:44.100 And the reasons for that are the nuclear parts of the Air Force and Navy, and I would say the Senate Armed Services Committee,
00:34:51.480 who really refought leaders pushing in this direction and saying, well, all this nuclear abolition stuff, that's great for a Yale seminar, but let's deal with the real world.
00:35:03.940 The real world, though, was Barack Obama insisting on clearing the way for Iran to possess nuclear weapons.
00:35:14.160 The way forward was Barack Obama, as I recall, something like within a couple of years of being in office, decided to just absolutely discard the Monroe Doctrine.
00:35:27.660 And that is a warning to all global powers outside the Western Hemisphere that the United States would respond quickly, militarily, to any intrusion or intervention in this hemisphere.
00:35:40.600 And yet here we are, Russia with ships moving into the Caribbean, China, throughout South America and Central America.
00:35:51.000 We are watching what has been an Obama-inspired opening to the world that is creating, I think, dreaded threats, awful threats to the United States.
00:36:07.340 We always give our guests, Paul, the last word.
00:36:11.840 And if you will, sir, your concluding thoughts today.
00:36:14.520 We really appreciate you being with us.
00:36:16.440 I've enjoyed our conversation.
00:36:17.960 Thanks so much, Paul.
00:36:18.840 Yeah, it's been a nice, a good conversation.
00:36:22.720 My final thoughts would be that things are going to get worse before they get better.
00:36:29.020 But in a certain sense, things are coming home to roost.
00:36:32.080 These trends, like our support for Taiwan, our support for human rights in Saudi Arabia or Hong Kong.
00:36:41.880 I never thought they were real.
00:36:44.640 And now they're being exposed for the fabrications that they were.
00:36:51.980 And my hope is that this is going to bring serious attention back.
00:36:57.860 What can I say?
00:36:59.020 Hard military power.
00:37:01.320 The popularity of the end of History Club is rapidly declining.
00:37:08.900 And we're beginning to accept a world very different than we wanted or thought was going to happen.
00:37:15.000 But at least we're beginning to accept it because the contradictions we're seeing in Iran, Taiwan, the Middle East are too transparent to deny.
00:37:26.040 And maybe that's precisely what's required for our stilted administration that's been in office now for two and a half years.
00:37:37.760 Perhaps it has to become so obvious that not even they can ignore it or mistake shadows for substance.
00:37:45.780 Paul Bracken, we really appreciate you being with us.
00:37:49.600 And thanks, as always, for your insight, your knowledge.
00:37:52.980 We appreciate you so much here on The Great America Show.
00:37:56.800 Thank you, my friend.
00:37:57.920 Thank you. Bye-bye.
00:37:59.300 Thanks, everybody, for being with us.
00:38:00.900 Our quote today from President Monroe, who authored the famous doctrine,
00:38:05.240 which might well apply to these moments as the Biden regime averts its eyes from China and China's intrusion in this hemisphere.
00:38:14.320 Secretary Blinken might muster the courage to tell the Chinese that the United States would, quote,
00:38:21.020 consider any attempt on their part to extend their system to any portion of this hemisphere as dangerous to our peace and safety, end quote.
00:38:32.360 The meaning of the doctrine is plain.
00:38:35.340 Assert loudly that doctrine.
00:38:37.080 It served America well for what will be 200 years on December 2nd of this year.
00:38:42.580 And it will assure our peace and our safety, and for all our neighbors as well.
00:38:48.540 Words for America to live by, don't you think?
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00:39:01.280 Please join us here tomorrow.
00:39:02.660 Our guest will be former National Security Agency intelligence analyst Russ Tice.
00:39:08.020 We hope you'll be with us.
00:39:09.460 Until then, thank you, God bless you, and may God bless America.
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00:39:14.260 Thank you.