The Great America Show - December 05, 2025


BUSTED! This is FAR WORSE than anyone ever expected!


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In this episode of The Great America Show, host Stephen Gardiner talks about the massive Somali fraud uncovered by the FBI in Minnesota, as well as the recent arrest of a suspect in connection with the pipe bomb plot in New York City.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Great America Show. It's great to have you with us on this
00:00:06.220 beautiful day in America. Thank you so much for spending part of your evening with us.
00:00:09.980 As always, folks, it was a busy week. There's no doubt about it. Lots of news to talk about.
00:00:15.920 You've got the Somalian fraud that is running rampant. You got President Trump receiving 1.00
00:00:20.040 a massive peace prize this week from the good folks at FIFA. You have the January 6th pipe
00:00:27.040 bomber finally being brought into custody. The timing on it is so very odd. Is this really
00:00:33.820 the pipe bomber? Are we to believe what the FBI is telling us? I don't know. I guess we're going to
00:00:38.540 have to wait and see. Some members of Congress doing things wrong. I want to get right to all
00:00:44.640 of this because I don't want to waste any time. I don't want to leave it in the locker room,
00:00:47.740 and I want to bring in our guest today. Good friend of mine, good friend of the show's Stephen
00:00:51.500 Gardner. He's the host of the Stephen Gardner Show. Stephen, thanks so much for joining us today,
00:00:56.420 on your busy, busy day. Oh, so much to cover. Thank you for having me on.
00:01:01.520 Always a delight. Always a pleasure. Always an honor. Let's get right into it. The Somali fraud 1.00
00:01:06.460 that we've been hearing about now for the last week or so. I've got bad news for you. We were told
00:01:12.080 it was about a billion dollars worth of fraud. We're not being told by Fox News it's a little
00:01:16.920 bit more than that. Fraud investigators are finding in Minnesota is growing by the day. Kelly Loeffler,
00:01:22.960 who leads the Small Business Administration, says in the two days her agency has been investigating
00:01:27.960 the state, they've uncovered at least a million dollars in PPP fraud just two days in. Several
00:01:35.540 of the whistleblowers in Minnesota have also told lawmakers they believe the total amount of fraud
00:01:40.620 could total up to more than $8 billion. Governor Tim Walz, who is up for re-election,
00:01:47.740 is under fire for all of this happening under his watch. But he says they have paused these
00:01:52.640 programs. They've brought in outside auditors to get an idea of how far reaching this fraud
00:01:56.960 was. They're taking steps to keep it from happening again. And he's defending his management of
00:02:02.360 the state while also taking shots at Republicans and the president.
00:02:06.140 And in spite of the headwinds we're up against, Minnesota ranks economically, economic growth,
00:02:16.520 happiness, number of people insured, education levels near the very top. So I'll tell you what,
00:02:23.620 I have no interest in having this state look like Oklahoma or Mississippi. And if folks are going to
00:02:29.540 commit crimes here, thinking because our generous spirit and our programs that we have is going to
00:02:34.580 give them some kind of cover, they are sadly mistaken.
00:02:37.340 Minnesota is also now home to the single largest pandemic fraud scheme in the country.
00:02:43.160 And Republicans argue that Walz and other Democrats opened the door to this.
00:02:48.260 He says they're happy there, Stephen. I guess I would be happy too if it was $8 billion.
00:02:55.120 This is insane.
00:02:57.060 Yeah, they might not be as happy when they find out just how much of their hard money has been
00:03:01.580 stolen. I mean, who cares if you guys are ranking in happiness and tampons in men's locker rooms,
00:03:09.680 if hardworking Americans literally have a population that says America is garbage.
00:03:16.460 And then on the back end, they're just stealing billions and billions.
00:03:20.580 Like I know it was a billion dollars. Now that they've started to dig in $8 billion.
00:03:25.900 And Tim Walz thinks that they're just going to say, well, at least he discovered the fraud.
00:03:31.140 We should reelect him again. If they do, they're stupid.
00:03:34.860 Yeah. And you know what? The crazy part about it all is we've got we've got some more video
00:03:39.060 footage here of these members, Stephen, these members of the government are seemingly all this
00:03:45.820 news just breaking moments ago. Fox News has obtained photos of one of the Somali illegal immigrants
00:03:52.920 wrapped up in the Minnesota fraud scandal, posing with several high profile Minnesota Democrats,
00:03:58.540 including Congresswoman Ilan Omar and Governor Tim Walz. The man pictured is Abdul Dahir Ibrahim.
00:04:05.520 He entered the country in 2000 and has had an order for removal since 2004. He also has a prior
00:04:13.440 conviction in Canada for asylum and welfare fraud. ICE tells Fox News Ibrahim was granted temporary
00:04:20.120 protected status for 10 years, but should have never been eligible. We are going to have more.
00:04:26.740 So in other words, it's time to go. I mean, these are these politicians. Politicians just don't go out
00:04:32.580 taking pictures with everybody. I mean, I've worked in the business for a long time. You know,
00:04:37.420 the fact of the matter that you've got Ilhan Omar, Tim Walz, Ellison somehow connected with all these
00:04:44.540 people. It stinks to high heavens. Yeah. I mean, this guy was asked to leave 19 years ago. Nobody
00:04:51.600 seemed to care. He probably has been voting in elections up in Canada. He was stealing from
00:04:57.100 Canada. Now he's been stealing from America with that, by the way. Well, it's just, it's absolute
00:05:05.400 crazy. Like this guy was almost vice president of the United States. And look, think about this.
00:05:11.880 Kamala Harris blew through a hundred billion dollars, you know, very, very quickly. And then
00:05:20.340 now she's $20 million in debt. Then you find out the largest fraud in American history was under her
00:05:27.300 vice presidential candidate, Governor Tim Walz. Yeah, this stinks for sure. You know, the notion was
00:05:35.380 back when Walz ran for vice president that he was extremely entangled in the CCP. You know, he went
00:05:42.100 over there, done some training and then brought it back to Minnesota, implemented it. Now it's no
00:05:47.920 longer CCP Tim Walz. It's Somalian Tim Walz. At this point, I don't even know who's worse to be caught 0.99
00:05:53.780 up with. But this man, like you said, wanted to be vice president of the United States. And all we
00:05:58.760 know about is his ties to other countries. To me, it's extremely terrifying. And the thing that
00:06:05.460 annoys me the most even is these people for the large majority, they don't like America. They
00:06:10.620 don't care about our American values that this country was built on the fabric that it was built
00:06:14.640 on. They don't care about the social norms here in America. I'm sure you remember back in the
00:06:21.460 campaign of another country where President Trump went on the debate stage and said, they're here,
00:06:25.720 they're eating the cats and the dogs. And everyone's like, this man is crazy. But no,
00:06:29.560 what's a social norm in some countries is most cases, not the social norm here in America. You
00:06:35.880 have Somalian and people may be upset that I'm gonna say this, but they have a huge portion of the
00:06:41.520 population there that believe in inbreeding. Obviously, here in America, that's not that's
00:06:46.180 something we believe in. That's not an American value. I'd say in probably 99.9% of people's
00:06:52.680 households here in America, but they come to America and they don't care to adopt to our 1.00
00:06:58.600 values. They want to switch everybody from our values to their values right down to Ilhan Omar,
00:07:03.220 who reportedly married her own brother. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. She doesn't ever
00:07:09.140 sue anybody over that. And she doesn't, she doesn't ever try to discredit it. She just kind
00:07:13.780 of stands there like, oh, maybe, maybe they won't notice, right? You know, going back to the Tim
00:07:19.880 Walls thing. No, yes, you guys look so much alike. But going back to the Tim Walls thing,
00:07:25.000 I do wonder now, during the presidential campaign, if he allowed them to talk about China. But behind
00:07:31.580 the scenes, he was like, oh, my gosh, please don't find out about Somalia. I'll be absolutely 1.00
00:07:36.600 wrecked on the internet, right? I mean, the largest fraud in American history has been under this guy.
00:07:43.900 And now what does he do? He tries to blame it on Trump somehow. Give me a break.
00:07:49.040 And it's not just Ilhan Omar, it's her friends, Jayapal, Congresswoman Jayapal, who says it wasn't
00:07:56.320 Americans who built America. It was, what was it? It was undocumented people that built America. Let's 1.00
00:08:02.140 take a listen to what she's got to say. The majority of Americans across the country,
00:08:06.800 regardless of political party, know that immigrants from all over the world, Somalia,
00:08:11.840 India, wherever they're from, Latin America, Africa, that immigrants have built this country
00:08:18.040 and make this country what it is today. Does she need a history lesson? You know what? I think
00:08:25.340 to make it the easiest way possible, we tell Ms. Congresswoman Jayapal to go look back at the 18th
00:08:32.900 century at the Gilded Ages, right? And go tell me that John Rockefeller was from Somalia or India,
00:08:41.820 or Cornelius Vanderbilt or JP Morgan or any of these people who, you know, really helped develop
00:08:50.100 America after the Civil War. I mean, nobody tells these people, Stephen, how dumb they sound and how
00:08:57.920 ridiculous they are. No, Indians and Somalians did not build America. I'm sorry to break the bad news to 1.00
00:09:06.600 you. Yeah. I mean, they, they, they lose all credibility when they say stuff like this. Like
00:09:12.180 she could have said, uh, black Americans help build a large portion of the South Chinese Chinese people 0.68
00:09:19.760 helped build a lot of the railroads. The Irish helped build a lot of the railroads. Like you could
00:09:25.700 go on, but just tell the truth, just tell the truth. And the reality is, I think most Americans are
00:09:31.960 proud of the fact that we're a melting pot, that we're not just, you know, a cookie cutter group.
00:09:37.640 I like the fact that we're a mix, but you have to come here legally. And when you get here, 0.99
00:09:43.000 you got to become American and you can't steal our money. Right. I mean, she said that Somalians 0.99
00:09:48.480 built America. No, they milked America. And, and now it's time, uh, to, to, you know, investigate these
00:09:56.080 people. Yeah. Uh, the, the, the amount of crimes that Somalia has committed against America just on 1.00
00:10:02.900 the pirating of ships alone, uh, it was so bad. They made a movie about it. Um, is enough for me
00:10:09.400 to say no. I, and president Trump has had enough. He, I, he from the oval office the other day,
00:10:14.240 Steven just looked, I mean, annoyed. He looked pissed. And it's not very often you, you see him
00:10:19.620 in that, that stature that he was in. And he was just like, you know, I've had enough. I'm tired
00:10:24.460 of it. I don't want them here anymore. Uh, you look at the amount of welfare that they're sucking 0.97
00:10:28.720 up, uh, from the, from the, uh, Minnesota just specifically, you know, it's time we, we, we move
00:10:35.580 back and move past, you know, all this nonsense, but you've got members like Jayapal. You've got
00:10:41.700 members like Ilhan Omar who are now, I mean, arrogant to the point Ilhan Omar saying today, uh, that
00:10:49.680 she's not going to allow president Trump to continue to do what he's doing. And those that
00:10:54.380 collaborate with him, they will pay a price Trump and his cronies want to act like we
00:11:00.420 have no power to respond. The truth is we are more powerful than we think we are. And
00:11:07.800 I want to underscore the importance of using every single leverage that we have at our, at
00:11:15.700 our arsenal, because we do have a lot of leverage. We need to make sure that those who are collaborating
00:11:23.200 with the authoritarian regime pay a costly price. Who does she think she is talking like that?
00:11:33.460 That's the president of the United States. Yeah. Yeah. She, uh, I mean, she's not wrong in the fact
00:11:39.960 that, uh, you know, Obama and others, they, they built up this big community and then they vote one
00:11:44.920 of them in and then they, they end up taking over the area, but then those people, they don't,
00:11:50.080 they don't end up working. They just milk the American taxpayer, whether, whether you're black, 1.00
00:11:55.820 white, Cuban or Asian, like, uh, you know, you're paying into this tax base and then you've got this
00:12:01.500 group of foreigners that's stealing money. And it, and it like, it would be one thing if they were 1.00
00:12:05.660 stealing money for their community, they're literally stealing it to send it back to terrorists,
00:12:10.340 uh, in the homeland. That's pretty disturbing.
00:12:13.180 Yeah. It's disgusting to me that this is the country that we've got to deal with now. This
00:12:18.740 is what we got to deal with in America. And it's not because of president Trump. This was all just
00:12:21.640 thrown in his lap, shooting in his lap. He's the one who's got to deal with it. Now I want to take
00:12:25.720 a quick break here, Steven. When we get back, I mean, there's so much to, to talk about president
00:12:30.420 Trump's a peace prize. President Trump sending a stark warning to Europe that they better get their
00:12:35.280 immigration problem under control. They're going to have a big problem. The Supreme court out with a
00:12:39.340 massive ruling today. Just moments ago, we find out they're taking up another landmark case.
00:12:44.360 What can it possibly be? We're going to talk about it all on the other side of this quick break.
00:12:47.820 We're talking with Steven Gardner. He's host of the Steven Gardner show. We're coming right back,
00:12:50.960 folks. Uh, please be sure to hit that like subscribe and follow button. If you're joining
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00:13:02.460 Thanks everybody for staying with us. Michael and Dell. I talked to him probably once or twice a week.
00:13:06.560 He appreciates all your orders and we're getting a big announcement from him.
00:13:09.340 I spoke to him earlier today. Uh, I think on the 11th of this month. So just a few days from today
00:13:14.760 on if he's running for governor of Minnesota to get out tampon Tim. So that'll be a fun one to watch 0.97
00:13:21.200 for Steven. Um, there's so much to talk about. Uh, you know what, let's turn to the DC pipe bomber
00:13:29.240 because I'm so perplexed about this whole situation and I don't like conspiracy theories, but when
00:13:36.220 something doesn't seem right to me, I get this, this, you know, inkling that something's wrong
00:13:41.600 and it all started maybe three weeks, a month ago, or a story came out where, by the way,
00:13:48.140 we've been waiting to catch this guy for what, what is it? Five years, almost five years. Now
00:13:51.240 a story comes out last week that, uh, some, I think it was the blaze that was reporting it, that
00:13:58.380 the pipe bomber was possibly a, uh, former Capitol police officer who had now left and gone to work
00:14:05.860 in the CIA. Steven, lo and behold, three weeks later, we don't know who this person is for five
00:14:10.940 years. We get a person now, Russ tight. So I believe you've had on your show, uh, before former senior NSA
00:14:18.140 Intel analyst. And I spoke a few weeks ago and we agreed on the premise that there's cameras,
00:14:25.500 especially in Washington DC. I mean, on every single corner, I've spoken to guys in the NSA and CIA who
00:14:30.880 have told me that there are drones, Steven, that can pinpoint from 50,000 feet up and almost see the
00:14:36.340 screen on your cell phone. So you mean to tell me that we had this person walking around the street,
00:14:42.300 they got on a train or they got on a car, they did something where they showed their face.
00:14:46.720 Number one, that to me is, is completely crazy because we got January 6th. There's the next day,
00:14:53.200 right? We knew where they were, we knew where they were sleeping. We knew where they were eating
00:14:56.860 five years. We don't find out who this person is. Now it's a month since this story comes out
00:15:03.260 and we've got a guy who to me, I don't know. It doesn't fit the, the, the profile. I think of
00:15:10.740 someone who would do something like that. I mean, the, the way they explain these pipe bombs where
00:15:17.000 they were very sophisticated and put together, this guy was a bail bondsman.
00:15:23.360 Well, I had read somewhere that his dad, I guess, had controlled a bomb company or something in the
00:15:31.580 past. But from, from what I'm, what I'm reading it looks like, you know, they, they were able to
00:15:39.200 track him through his shoes, through his body movement, through the cameras, through his cell
00:15:46.060 phone. And then they were able to line all of that up with his credit cards. And they see him
00:15:52.060 buying these bomb parts and they can identify like, okay, this credit card bought this bomb part.
00:15:58.100 And this bomb is, this part is on this bomb, right? So it took them, but so, so the thing for
00:16:03.800 me that is weird, isn't that this just came out after the blaze broke this big story. It's that
00:16:09.880 within like four months, they were able to solve a crime that the Biden DOJ and FBI just couldn't
00:16:16.720 solve in four years. So for me, that's the timing that's really off is Dan Bongino, Cash Patel,
00:16:23.820 they come in. And even when this blaze story broke, they're like, it's not her. It's not.
00:16:29.940 And I was like, why, why are they not like, you know, the gate matches or walking pattern matches.
00:16:35.620 That's because behind the scenes, they were finally getting the final puzzle pieces together. So for me,
00:16:40.600 that's the odd part.
00:16:42.280 Yeah. I don't know. I just, I feel like there, there's so many things that we've been told over
00:16:46.640 the course of, you know, you're a little bit older than me, but, but not much over the course of
00:16:50.680 our lifetimes that just simply weren't true. And, you know, you can go back and look at weapons of
00:16:57.120 mass destruction that never existed. And that led to our invasion. You know, I don't want to go down
00:17:02.040 rabbit holes, but we've been told things over the course of the last hundred years that some people
00:17:08.020 say, don't check out, whether it's aliens, whether it's, did we ever go to the moon? I'm not saying I
00:17:12.520 agree one way or another on it, but we've been fed things or the real story about nine 11.
00:17:16.520 And there's so many inconsistencies or the two shots taken at president Trump's head. I mean,
00:17:23.120 and, and, and Thomas Matthew cooks, his body being cremated within 24 hours of being recovered.
00:17:28.420 You know, you go down the list of things that we've been told over the course of our,
00:17:32.000 our lifetimes. And to me, it doesn't pass the smell test. The gateway pundits got a story out
00:17:38.220 and I think it's attributable to the daily wire. I'm going to put it up here on the screen for us
00:17:43.280 and our audience to see, cause it's, it's interesting to, to get some backstory here.
00:17:48.940 This is the daily wire story. Let's see if we can get the pundit. Cause they do a little bit of a
00:17:53.500 better breakdown. The daily wire reported on Thursday evening, that Cole's family sued the
00:18:00.200 Trump DHS over illegal immigration and asked Biden's DOJ to address anti-black racism. Now we're being
00:18:06.700 told this guy's MAGA and he believed the election was stolen. So that's why he did this
00:18:11.120 weeks before 30 year old cold junior allegedly planted the pipe bombs at the headquarters of the
00:18:15.640 DNC and the RNC on January 5th of 2021, a court ruled against the company and its lawsuit attacking
00:18:22.460 the Trump administration on immigration issues. The daily wire has learned an FBI affidavit in that case
00:18:27.780 notes that the suspect works for a bail bonds company and lives with his mother. Later on in 2021,
00:18:33.300 the company held a press conference, bemoaning anti-black racism with a left-wing attorney,
00:18:38.200 Cole senior and a Benjamin Crump who represented the family of Trayvon Martin attempted to stick
00:18:44.720 the Biden department of justice on a local Tennessee prosecutor who had raised questions
00:18:49.760 about the bail bonds company. So now also according to Fox news, this man has admitted to planting
00:18:56.300 devices. It just, you know, you hear he's MAGA this, he's MAGA that anything to tie to Trump.
00:19:03.540 You go to CNN, let's listen and see what they had to say about capital attack. Brian Cole, Jr.,
00:19:10.200 a 30 year old white man from the DC sub. What can we just listen to that again? A 30 year old what
00:19:16.820 capital attack? Brian Cole, Jr., a 30 year old white man from the.
00:19:21.860 I've been a loss of words. I, you know, going from them suing the Trump administration for
00:19:31.080 immigration. First of all, if you're, you're pro immigration, you're anti-Trump because Trump is
00:19:35.840 for legal immigration. So, you know, that kicks that narrative out. Then you've got Jake Tapper
00:19:39.900 going out last night that it's a white man, which it doesn't matter if he's white or black. It's so 0.85
00:19:44.520 stupid to even say that he's a person, but Tapper had to get in that. He's a white man. I mean,
00:19:50.520 what's going on? Yeah, well, obviously they were hoping that this would fit a narrative because
00:19:56.340 the puzzle piece to keep their fragile breaking story is we need all the Trump people to be
00:20:04.520 dangerous to democracy. We need all the Trump people to be crazy. We need all the people to
00:20:10.500 be brainwashed by Donald Trump. So now you have somebody who doesn't fit the mold, who was anti-Trump,
00:20:18.180 who was, you know, suing on behalf of racism, suing on behalf of illegal immigration. Like none of this
00:20:27.000 screams MAGA. Like this dude probably does not have MAGA hats in his mom's basement. Right. The other
00:20:33.620 thing though, is like, why are so many young people acting out with violence? Right. So you've got a
00:20:41.420 young person that decides to kill Charlie Kirk. You've got a young person who decides to take a
00:20:47.580 shot at president Trump's head. You've got Luigi Mangione who shoots the, the CEO of United healthcare
00:20:54.560 in the back. Like what, what is with these, uh, young people that have, you know, everything going 0.90
00:21:01.040 for them. They're almost all come from really good families. Obviously this guy living in Woodbridge,
00:21:05.920 Virginia in his mom's basement. That's a really nice area. Why, why do you feel the need to,
00:21:11.940 to go blow people up in order to humiliate Trump? That is a mystery to me.
00:21:17.800 Yeah. The whole thing Lou Dobbs used to say to me, Steven, if it seems too good to be true,
00:21:22.680 or it seems something's wrong, lift up the carpet. Cause there's probably a mouse under there. And
00:21:26.060 I just, I don't know. It's so hard to imagine Dan Bongino. And he's like trying to,
00:21:31.800 he did an interview with Fox news and he was like, he said something, well, you can't blame me for
00:21:37.640 what I, cause he, they played an old clip for him, which he said, you know, there was going to be a
00:21:41.220 massive coverup, right? It seemed like somebody was covering up for somebody. And they asked him
00:21:45.400 on Fox news and Bongino was like, well, you can't take what I said in my opinion back as a podcaster
00:21:50.560 seriously. And you're like, well, you know, we, you and I don't come out here every single day,
00:21:55.300 just feeding bullshit to the audience. We report on the news to the best of our abilities,
00:21:59.780 knowing and hoping that what we're being told and what we're reporting is the truth. And you know
00:22:04.240 what, when we're wrong, we come out here and say, I was wrong. And that's part of being an adult,
00:22:09.120 but you've got the deputy director of the FBI saying, well, two years ago, I believed it was a
00:22:13.980 coverup. And now all of a sudden it's like, Nope, this is our man. We've got him. And it's the same
00:22:18.820 thing he did with the Epstein documents. Something doesn't seem right with Bongino.
00:22:21.780 So yeah. Uh, only, only time will tell, but, um, you know, if you want to stick with that coverup
00:22:29.420 narrative, uh, they had, they had everything to find this guy. It just, to me, it seems like they
00:22:36.020 didn't want to find him. Like even Bongino confirmed. Yes. There were thousands of interviews.
00:22:42.200 We tracked all this stuff down, but then we just couldn't, couldn't, uh, get it across the finish
00:22:47.880 line. But then they come in and they put a new set of eyes on it and they're like, bingo, got him.
00:22:53.760 This guy, like all, all the dots connect to this guy. And then like within hours of being arrested,
00:22:59.680 he's like, yeah, I did it. I'm sorry. Like, so this guy, you know, he was, he was walking around
00:23:05.380 town for five years thinking he got away with it and he did under Christopher Ray and he did under
00:23:10.960 Joe Biden, but not under Trump. Oh yeah. Christopher, right. There's no doubt it was one of the,
00:23:15.360 if not the most corrupt, uh, um, it's hard for me to even say, right? Because we just had James
00:23:21.780 Comey before him, but, but you know, one in two of the most corrupt FBI directors this country's ever
00:23:26.600 seen, both who are running free, no issues because the members of Congress are more worried about
00:23:32.300 their Trump derangement. Let's talk about that. Rand Paul, he wants to use this war powers act or come
00:23:38.160 up with some sort of war powers act to go against president Trump on these Venezuelan ships, which by the
00:23:42.780 way, last night, I don't know if you saw, they got their 22nd one and it was absolutely amazing
00:23:46.760 launching a drone strike at it. I spent probably two hours last night talking to Grok, uh, about,
00:23:52.820 cause I'm, I'm so fascinated at how high up they're launching these missiles, where are they coming
00:23:56.300 from? And, uh, their hellfire missiles from the MQ nine Reaper drones. And I think it's just
00:24:01.740 absolutely fascinating, but you got guys like Rand Paul who are more upset about president Trump
00:24:06.120 launching these missiles at drug lords who are shipping drugs in our country. Then the actual
00:24:12.280 people who are bringing the drugs in, it's like so backwards. Yeah. I saw, um, a Congressman, his name,
00:24:19.220 uh, slips my mind, but he, they asked him like, okay, you've just come from watching the video.
00:24:25.840 You've just come from the admiral testifying under oath. You've, you've been able to ask
00:24:31.340 a few questions, but nothing under oath. Um, what can you tell us? He's like, well,
00:24:37.500 they absolutely made the right decision to, to kill these people. Uh, yes, it is confirmed that
00:24:44.240 it was a drug boat. Yes, it is confirmed that they were narco terrorists, but I'm just so ashamed that
00:24:50.740 America would kill people that fell off of a boat. Like I, you know, forgive me for not knowing all of
00:24:58.220 the doctrine of war, but if someone's your enemy and you miss the first shot, don't you just take
00:25:03.660 another shot? I, I guess I don't understand why killing somebody that's trying to make money killing
00:25:09.800 Americans is a bad thing. And yet you see all these people crying on CNN about a drug, a drug dealer
00:25:16.960 being killed. To me, it makes no sense. Yeah. CNN is literally the enemy of the people. They,
00:25:22.320 they spew lies like I've never seen before. Um, it's absolutely berserk. And then they get away
00:25:29.340 with it. I want to take one more quick break here, Steven. On the other side of this break,
00:25:32.320 I want to get to, uh, president Trump's peace prize, which he got earlier this week, uh, president
00:25:37.840 Trump and his stark message that he's sending to Europe that they better get their act together
00:25:41.220 before it's too late. Uh, just moments ago, a, uh, judge down in Florida, uh, he, uh, wants all
00:25:48.040 of the Epstein files out, allowing the, uh, grand jury materials to, uh, to now be released.
00:25:54.100 So there's so much more to get to. I want to take a quick break. We're going to be a lot
00:25:57.380 back in less than 60 seconds. Please stay with us folks. We're talking with Steven Gardner,
00:26:00.920 host of the Steven Gardner show. We'll be back in 60.
00:26:09.280 Thanks everybody for staying with us. My pillow.com slash John, get your Christmas
00:26:12.640 gifts early while you can, while they're on sale. Uh, Steven, let's talk about this.
00:26:16.920 Um, just moments ago, a federal judge in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, one of my favorite places
00:26:23.600 in Florida, uh, unsealing those grand jury records for all South Florida, uh, for the
00:26:29.420 Epstein files, president Trump was the one who went down there and asked him to go ahead
00:26:34.220 and do it. He and Pam Bondi, after they released, they voted on it in Congress. Trump says, let's
00:26:39.620 go one step further. Let's go down to Florida and unseal those grand jury documents. Doesn't
00:26:43.680 seem like a man who's a duck in his taco that he's maybe in the Epstein documents.
00:26:49.360 Yeah. You know, my Midas touch was putting out these videos with Donald Trump, his hair
00:26:54.640 is like disheveled. It was like, Donald Trump has mental mind meltdown over new Epstein photos.
00:27:03.060 And then it was like, Hey, did you know that, uh, Jeffrey Epstein had a dentist office at his
00:27:07.260 house? How's that? How's that linked to Donald Trump? I think what president Trump has done
00:27:13.240 is amazing. He's getting all the documents out there. His name is not in there. You're
00:27:18.560 not going to find him in this South Florida, uh, you know, unsealed documents. Now I think
00:27:25.140 he is doing what he promised. I don't know what the hangup was, but now he's doing it.
00:27:30.100 And now he's going above and beyond. And I think that this is going to come back to bite
00:27:34.520 the Democrats in the butt. Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. And it could be him taking
00:27:39.420 the high road. You remember back in 2016, the high road with Hillary Clinton, it could
00:27:43.220 have been him taking the high road. And I think these people opened up a can, Steven,
00:27:46.300 of their worst nightmare. That's about to come true to them because, uh, we're going
00:27:50.520 to find out a lot of Democrats in my opinion, and, uh, some, some big names, um, that are
00:27:56.260 in those documents that they're going to wish as Mark Mitchell always tells me you're, uh,
00:28:00.240 you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube once it's out. And I think that's, uh, what
00:28:04.320 we're going to see with this, uh, let's turn to president Trump and his message that he's
00:28:09.000 got for Europe. He's trying to save them before it's too late, but I think it might be too 0.98
00:28:13.600 late. President Trump's national security strategy is out in some of Europe sections
00:28:17.780 are shocking. Uh, a fellow on Twitter posted quote, a large European majority wants peace
00:28:23.200 yet. The desire is not to translate it into policy in large measure because these government
00:28:29.140 subversion of democratic processes, this is strategically important to the United States,
00:28:33.840 precisely because the European States cannot reform themselves if they are trapped in political
00:28:40.120 crises. Now this comes as Vladimir Putin, uh, said earlier this week, he's ready to go to war
00:28:46.160 with Europe because Europe is doing everything they can to stifle a peace plan between Ukraine and
00:28:52.000 Russia. Is this secretly what the European union really wants? Uh, we know war creates money. Is this
00:28:59.220 what they want? Well, I've had, uh, military and CIA, uh, people on my channel and they say,
00:29:07.100 you know, that, uh, Europe is on the verge of a major recession that, uh, they need, they need an
00:29:13.280 excuse to continue to print money. And so they've made Russia this boogeyman, but then at the same time 0.81
00:29:19.860 they keep provoking it. And we we've just learned in the last 48 hours that president Trump has this
00:29:28.080 big peace deal that Russia says we are very interested in. He's asked Ukrainian officials
00:29:33.860 to come to Florida to meet with Marco Rubio and get this thing done. And then what do we find out?
00:29:40.380 We find out that England and Germany and France goes behind president Trump's back and says,
00:29:46.240 we have to do everything to protect Zelensky. We have to do everything to keep money and weapons
00:29:52.460 flowing to Zelensky. None of it makes any sense. I think America is done. Like we've got nothing
00:29:59.260 against Ukraine, but we don't, we just don't want hundreds of billions of dollars to go towards
00:30:04.920 a country that we're now finding out top officials close to Zelensky stole a hundred million dollars.
00:30:11.460 Like, come on, that's insane. Well, let me ask you, what are we, and this is a serious question.
00:30:17.080 There's no satire to it. I wish it was. What is America, hypothetically speaking, supposed to do
00:30:22.720 if Russia, if Russia does go to war with some European countries, I know NATO and everything,
00:30:28.720 but what are we supposed to do if Russia goes to war with them because, uh, Europe stifled any peace
00:30:36.240 plan between Europe and Ukraine, between Russia and Ukraine? Are we supposed to send our troops
00:30:41.280 on the ground over to Europe to defend them when they're the ones who are in fact creating this war?
00:30:46.940 I don't think Americans will stand for it. President Trump, he's been so patient. I believe
00:30:53.060 he genuinely wants to bring this war to an end, but he's called them out. He's saying, wait a minute,
00:30:58.820 you guys keep saying that Russia is about to attack you, that they're going to roll into Kiev
00:31:04.540 any day now, that they want World War III with the entire continent of Europe. Yeah. You guys are
00:31:11.400 secretly buying their oil. You're literally funding the war that's attacking Ukraine. So what is it?
00:31:17.800 Is he about to attack or you want him to give you a better discount on, on gas and oil? It's just,
00:31:24.420 it's really hypocritical. I think hypocritical is put it nicely. And if you look at it from
00:31:28.800 the flip side too, he goes after Putin plenty. I mean, he's going after Putin telling him you
00:31:33.340 better get your shit together or we're tariffing the heck out of you, you know, which is kind of 0.93
00:31:39.540 why I think you're not hearing the Russia narrative anymore that Trump is this Putin stooge. He's
00:31:44.240 always been tough on Putin, regardless of what the left mainstream media and those are the real
00:31:50.660 Russia sycophants, by the way, whatever, regardless of what they're saying, he's been tough on them from
00:31:55.520 the beginning and he continues to be tough on them. And, uh, you know, you famously remember
00:32:00.480 him, uh, talking about, uh, I think it was, uh, Gaza or Iran and Israel. He says, they don't know
00:32:05.920 what the F they're doing. It's the same exact thing with these two countries, either make a peace deal
00:32:11.220 or figure out what the next steps are. America can't be here to babysit. We have so many of our 0.93
00:32:16.260 own issues, uh, right now in our own country that we have to deal with. We have drugs at the back
00:32:21.340 door. We've got a Trojan horse from Afghanistan, which we found out is worse than we originally 1.00
00:32:26.660 thought, uh, with these terrorists in our country, uh, drugs, the border, uh, the economy at any given
00:32:33.880 point can go one way or the other yet. We need to constantly be the world babysitter. Does it end
00:32:39.880 anytime soon? I don't know, but I think under Joe Biden, the American people woke up and realized
00:32:47.060 just how much of our hard earned money is going overseas, whether it's to foreign wars, whether
00:32:54.320 it's to foreign interests, whether it's to prop up allies, whether it's to NATO or to Ukraine or
00:33:01.900 whatever. And the American people were looking around going, Hey, didn't, didn't Joe Biden pass a
00:33:07.640 $2 trillion infrastructure package and my roads aren't better. My bridges aren't better. My trains
00:33:14.180 aren't better. My airports aren't better. Like where the heck did that money go? And then you find
00:33:20.540 out just how much of it went overseas. I think the American people, they, they want America first.
00:33:26.500 They want, they want the great America show talking about all of the money and good being done in
00:33:32.480 America. Yeah. You know, it's funny you say that because I spent a lot of time traveling and, uh,
00:33:38.000 I was over in Europe, I think last year for the Europe cup, a soccer match, uh, between Italy and
00:33:43.220 Albania that was over in, uh, I think it was Dusseldorf, Germany. And we were, I met some
00:33:48.080 random German guy and we're talking about president Trump. This guy's a German national
00:33:51.300 and he comes up to me and he says, you know, I love Donald Trump. I said, why? Yeah. You should
00:33:56.040 hate him. You're European. And you know, he's, he's making up for lost time from all the other 1.00
00:34:00.860 presidents that, you know, have given you guys everything. And he goes, no, I love him because
00:34:04.960 he loves your country more than anything. And he's willing to do anything for your country
00:34:09.660 first. And I was like, you know, that it's, it's my thing like that. That's just so brilliant
00:34:14.900 that people realize how important it is to care about your country. And this, like I said,
00:34:19.660 this kid's a German national who should hate America and hate Donald Trump, not hate America
00:34:23.820 per se, but Donald Trump because of, you know, the tensions that we've had. Speaking of peace,
00:34:29.040 Steven, uh, Joe Biden, uh, being honored on Friday, uh, he's receiving an LGBTQ award for running
00:34:37.460 the most inclusive administration in history. Now it comes at an interesting time because also on
00:34:42.820 Friday, uh, president Trump was issued the first in history FIFA peace award with the world cup,
00:34:49.860 but speaking of soccer, uh, coming to America, let's take a listen in, but just the stark contrast
00:34:54.500 between the two presidents and listen to the words from the president of FIFA. Sounds very genuine to me.
00:35:00.080 FIFA Peace Prize is presented annually on behalf of the billions of football loving people from
00:35:06.080 around the world to a distinguished individual who exemplifies an unwavering commitment to advancing
00:35:13.160 peace and unity throughout the world through their notable leadership and action. And therefore,
00:35:20.620 FIFA, the Fédération Internationale de Football Association, awards the 2025 FIFA Peace Prize,
00:35:28.480 football unites the world to Donald J. Trump, president of the United States of America in
00:35:35.720 recognition of his exceptional and extraordinary actions to promote peace and unity around the
00:35:41.800 world. Friday, December 5th, 2025. This is a certificate. It's yours.
00:35:48.780 Before giving you the floor, Mr. President, if I may say two words, um, like everyone here
00:36:03.560 in the room, we see images of war all over the world. And like everyone, we suffer for every
00:36:13.960 child that dies. We cry with every mother that loses someone she loves. And we want to see hope.
00:36:29.780 We want to see unity. We want to see a future. And I was lucky, Mr. President, to witness last,
00:36:39.920 a few years ago, the Abraham Accord signatures. A few months ago, in Sharm el-Sheikh, the peace in the
00:36:48.100 Middle East agreement regarding Gaza. I was in Malaysia and Kuala Lumpur for the peace between
00:36:54.600 Cambodia and Thailand. Yesterday, here in Washington, the Washington peace agreement between
00:37:01.560 Rwanda and Rwanda and the DRC. Well, this is what we want from a leader. A leader that cares about the
00:37:14.500 people. We want to live in a safe world, in a safe environment. We want to unite. That's what we do
00:37:22.640 here today. That's what we'll do at the World Cup, Mr. President. And you definitely deserve the first
00:37:29.780 FIFA Peace Prize for your action, for what you have obtained in your way. But you obtained it in an
00:37:38.160 incredible way. And you can always count, Mr. President, on my support, on the support of the
00:37:43.500 entire football community or soccer community to help you make peace and make the world prosper all
00:37:50.120 over the world. Thank you very much, Mr. President. The floor is all yours. Thank you.
00:37:55.500 So nice. And it takes a lot of guts for a man to do something like that. Because think about the
00:37:59.420 backlash he gets from that. Extremely, extremely admirable. Before I get your reaction to it,
00:38:03.780 I'm sorry, I don't mean to keep talking. He actually got Donald Trump to dance to. And
00:38:08.260 it's very simple. It's a very easy way to get Donald Trump to dance. All you got to do is this.
00:38:11.660 The secret is out. All you got to do is bring out the village people and it can't, you can't stop 1.00
00:38:28.100 the, the Trump from dancing. But no, I want to get your take on that. Because I'm sure the
00:38:33.680 mainstream media will tell us tomorrow that Donald Trump fell asleep during that, that little
00:38:38.480 procession. Yeah. Um, you know, one, one thing that I respect about president Trump, you say
00:38:46.380 whatever you want about him. He genuinely wants to see the world at peace. He, he wants, he wants
00:38:55.100 these wars to end. I mean, I remember when CNN town hall tried to trap him, who do you want to win
00:39:02.580 Ukraine or Russia? And his answer was brilliant. I want the killing to stop. So I think that, uh,
00:39:11.080 you know, he he's gotta, he's gotta take a tough stance on this stuff. And, uh, but at the end of
00:39:17.360 the day, he wants to be known as the president of peace. And, uh, he's, he's done a phenomenal job.
00:39:23.840 I, I, you know, we all wish that he could have got the Russia Ukraine war ended on day one. I don't
00:39:29.080 think he realized how, you know, incredibly difficult Europe, uh, and Russia were going to
00:39:35.340 be on this, but I do believe before his term is over, we will see this thing come to an end and
00:39:40.640 it will be a magnificent moment. But, uh, yeah, FIFA, they're, they're taking a big risk putting
00:39:47.200 any support behind president Trump, but like, like the, uh, the person just said there, like it just
00:39:53.260 warms his heart to know that there's not going to be children dying because president Trump is showing
00:39:58.360 leadership on the world stage. Yeah. We think about what he's given up and even the people who
00:40:03.800 hate him and can't stand him and want him dead. Imagine there's sick people out there like that.
00:40:08.220 I just like Joe Biden. I would never wish anything bad upon him. The cancer I thought was disgusting.
00:40:12.620 And I feel so bad for him because we're human beings. Right. Um, but there's people out there
00:40:17.720 who wish him dead. And there's probably people out there who pray on and they're six, sick people,
00:40:21.860 but he didn't need this. He didn't need to run. Well, he had to run for election because they were
00:40:26.540 trying to ruin his life and put him in jail for 700 years. So he really had no choice when it came
00:40:30.800 to that. But when he first ran, he didn't need any of this. He lived such a comfortable life.
00:40:36.300 Everybody loved him. They all kissed his rear end. They kissed the ring. And he was just a regular
00:40:41.060 guy. I mean, as regular as they got a fast food eating, you know, hardworking American. And he ran to
00:40:46.520 make this country a better place. And since then, Steven, the amount of hate for this man,
00:40:52.480 uh, the assassination attempts on his life, the, the crooked prosecutions and persecutions against
00:40:59.080 him. I don't, I don't know how I'd want to wake up every single morning and get out of bed,
00:41:05.120 knowing that I constantly had a target on my back and the resiliency in this man. And I'm not kissing
00:41:10.140 his rear end, but you find me another person who's been able to do what he's done and the adversity
00:41:15.880 he's overcome. You find me another person who can do that. And I tell you, you're lying
00:41:20.400 because it's unfathomable and impossible to think that such a person exists. Tell me if
00:41:26.760 I'm wrong. I mean, think about this. Uh, he's married to beautiful Melania.
00:41:32.080 Gorgeous. He's, he's rich. He could literally go to every golf resort around the world. All of
00:41:39.220 the most beautiful beaches. What does he do? He rolls up his sleeves and he walks into the swamp
00:41:45.040 of Washington DC and says, I'm going to fight every single day to make this country safe,
00:41:53.220 to make this country healthy, to make this country great. He doesn't, he didn't need any of this.
00:41:59.160 And yet he shows up every day. They mock him. Oh, taco Trump, cankles, Trump, bad hair, Trump,
00:42:06.280 ugly Trump, orange face, Trump. Like he just, he just puts up with it because he has a vision
00:42:13.340 for what he wants to make America into, which is a rich nation, a healthy nation, a safe nation,
00:42:20.520 a nation with borders. So I just, I love it. I feel like it's an honor of a lifetime to be able
00:42:25.820 to cover his presidency. I want to play this video because, you know, now that we're talking about
00:42:30.040 his, uh, you know, his past life and the normal life he was living, there's this video. I just found
00:42:34.960 that it was, he actually posted it on his Facebook, like maybe 15 years ago. And this is how normal
00:42:40.460 his life was. He's driving in the city. It looks like Baron Trump is in the front seat. Melania's
00:42:45.120 in the backseat, taking a video and they're literally listening to Taylor Swift blank space,
00:42:50.120 just that living this normal life that is, you know, been taken from him because of,
00:42:56.020 you know, his selfish selflessness to run for president and to make America great again.
00:43:00.800 You know, he's just, he doesn't get, people don't see that in him much that he, you know,
00:43:25.840 he is a human being because of, you know, how hardworking is, but that's life he gave up, you
00:43:30.820 know? Yeah. You know, when, uh, Matthew Thomas Crooks nearly blew his brains out on live TV,
00:43:38.460 Melania wrote a letter, uh, saying, you know, this is a man that loves his family. This is a man
00:43:45.940 that loves his country. This is a man that loves music. He's obsessed with music. I mean, the Rose
00:43:51.720 garden people go there and he's blasting music and they say, Oh, he's so tacky. He's such a stupid
00:43:58.400 tacky person, but he just loves music. That's just who he is. Let him be who he is. Right. But yeah,
00:44:03.440 he didn't, he didn't have to do any of this. He didn't have to get the dirt of DC on him. I mean,
00:44:09.180 I was just on, uh, with Brigitte, uh, Gabrielle, and she told me off air that, uh, uh, Janine Pirro
00:44:16.740 said that Washington DC is dirtier than she could have ever imagined the crime and corruption
00:44:23.760 within Congress blew her mind. And she's a judge. She's a judge and had her mind blown.
00:44:30.160 Yeah. And she's seen a lot. Uh, she's been in this business for a very long time of, uh,
00:44:35.520 of being a judge. The music thing is funny. I was down in Florida two weeks ago playing golf at his
00:44:40.640 course. And I see his golf cart parked there and he's got these two massive speakers mounted on the
00:44:45.540 back of his golf cart with an iPad sitting in it. It's the funniest thing in the world that how just
00:44:50.260 normal of a person he is like, is, you know, one of the guys less, you know, the, the beer drinking,
00:44:55.380 uh, before we wrap up, I want to get to something that just came across the news wires,
00:45:00.200 the Supreme court to, by the way, today, very big case, uh, six, three decision allowing Texas to move
00:45:09.000 forward with their newly redrawn congressional maps. So that's an interesting one. It's, uh, it's moving
00:45:15.060 forward according to the Supreme court, which keeps me optimistic on the tariffs, but the Supreme
00:45:19.500 court court also today, uh, they're going to take up if president Trump has a constitutional authority
00:45:24.200 to end birthright citizenship for illegal aliens. Uh, this is a big one. 0.89
00:45:29.220 Yeah, it's, it's huge. So, uh, I also read that Florida is going to make changes that might
00:45:35.720 open three to five more red seats. They, you know, they just approved the five seats over in Texas,
00:45:41.820 but this is massive. Like people should not be able to, Steven, what's that? Indiana just voted
00:45:48.000 on. It's a seven, two right now. It's going to move to a nine zero. Ooh. Yeah. I mean, this is
00:45:53.420 good. They cheated us in the census. They rigged the census in order to get more seats in Congress,
00:45:58.380 but just going back to the Supreme court, um, you know, people should not be able to come to America 0.98
00:46:04.620 for five seconds and get all the blessings of America. Um, I, I just, I don't, I don't believe
00:46:11.180 in that. Um, so I, I think that is a big deal. I think that they would be foolish to allow the chief
00:46:18.100 negotiator of the country to not have power to negotiate tariffs. I mean, he's used them to end
00:46:24.320 wars. He's used them to onshore jobs. He's used them to get $18 trillion in investment commitment.
00:46:32.380 All of that's going to flood in over the next 38 months, but he's got to remain in office.
00:46:38.280 They've got to keep the house and the Senate. Uh, there's, there's still a lot of work to be done,
00:46:43.120 but this is a great day. Well, yeah, there's more than enough work to get done in Washington, DC.
00:46:49.000 Steven Gardner. I appreciate that. We went a little overtime today. Just there's so much to talk about
00:46:53.200 and, uh, nobody enjoy more wrapping up my week with them talking with you. So it's always a delight to
00:46:57.920 talk to you. Steven Gardner folks, host of the Steven Gardner show. You catch him on YouTube,
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00:47:09.860 episodes a day. Really, really terrific stuff. Steven enjoy the rest of your weekend, my friend.
00:47:15.440 Thank you. Steven Gardner folks, please be sure to go follow him on all social media. Steven Gardner
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00:47:24.600 back here Monday, truth, justice, and the American way at the forefront. I hope you all have a blessed
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00:47:34.820 May God bless America and may God bless the great Luke Dobbs. We'll see you Monday, folks.
00:47:38.420 We'll see you next time.