BUSTED! This is FAR WORSE than anyone ever expected!
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In this episode of The Great America Show, host Stephen Gardiner talks about the massive Somali fraud uncovered by the FBI in Minnesota, as well as the recent arrest of a suspect in connection with the pipe bomb plot in New York City.
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Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Great America Show. It's great to have you with us on this
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beautiful day in America. Thank you so much for spending part of your evening with us.
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As always, folks, it was a busy week. There's no doubt about it. Lots of news to talk about.
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You've got the Somalian fraud that is running rampant. You got President Trump receiving
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a massive peace prize this week from the good folks at FIFA. You have the January 6th pipe
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bomber finally being brought into custody. The timing on it is so very odd. Is this really
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the pipe bomber? Are we to believe what the FBI is telling us? I don't know. I guess we're going to
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have to wait and see. Some members of Congress doing things wrong. I want to get right to all
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of this because I don't want to waste any time. I don't want to leave it in the locker room,
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and I want to bring in our guest today. Good friend of mine, good friend of the show's Stephen
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Gardner. He's the host of the Stephen Gardner Show. Stephen, thanks so much for joining us today,
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on your busy, busy day. Oh, so much to cover. Thank you for having me on.
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Always a delight. Always a pleasure. Always an honor. Let's get right into it. The Somali fraud
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that we've been hearing about now for the last week or so. I've got bad news for you. We were told
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it was about a billion dollars worth of fraud. We're not being told by Fox News it's a little
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bit more than that. Fraud investigators are finding in Minnesota is growing by the day. Kelly Loeffler,
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who leads the Small Business Administration, says in the two days her agency has been investigating
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the state, they've uncovered at least a million dollars in PPP fraud just two days in. Several
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of the whistleblowers in Minnesota have also told lawmakers they believe the total amount of fraud
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could total up to more than $8 billion. Governor Tim Walz, who is up for re-election,
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is under fire for all of this happening under his watch. But he says they have paused these
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programs. They've brought in outside auditors to get an idea of how far reaching this fraud
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was. They're taking steps to keep it from happening again. And he's defending his management of
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the state while also taking shots at Republicans and the president.
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And in spite of the headwinds we're up against, Minnesota ranks economically, economic growth,
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happiness, number of people insured, education levels near the very top. So I'll tell you what,
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I have no interest in having this state look like Oklahoma or Mississippi. And if folks are going to
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commit crimes here, thinking because our generous spirit and our programs that we have is going to
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give them some kind of cover, they are sadly mistaken.
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Minnesota is also now home to the single largest pandemic fraud scheme in the country.
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And Republicans argue that Walz and other Democrats opened the door to this.
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He says they're happy there, Stephen. I guess I would be happy too if it was $8 billion.
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Yeah, they might not be as happy when they find out just how much of their hard money has been
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stolen. I mean, who cares if you guys are ranking in happiness and tampons in men's locker rooms,
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if hardworking Americans literally have a population that says America is garbage.
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And then on the back end, they're just stealing billions and billions.
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Like I know it was a billion dollars. Now that they've started to dig in $8 billion.
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And Tim Walz thinks that they're just going to say, well, at least he discovered the fraud.
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We should reelect him again. If they do, they're stupid.
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Yeah. And you know what? The crazy part about it all is we've got we've got some more video
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footage here of these members, Stephen, these members of the government are seemingly all this
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news just breaking moments ago. Fox News has obtained photos of one of the Somali illegal immigrants
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wrapped up in the Minnesota fraud scandal, posing with several high profile Minnesota Democrats,
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including Congresswoman Ilan Omar and Governor Tim Walz. The man pictured is Abdul Dahir Ibrahim.
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He entered the country in 2000 and has had an order for removal since 2004. He also has a prior
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conviction in Canada for asylum and welfare fraud. ICE tells Fox News Ibrahim was granted temporary
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protected status for 10 years, but should have never been eligible. We are going to have more.
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So in other words, it's time to go. I mean, these are these politicians. Politicians just don't go out
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taking pictures with everybody. I mean, I've worked in the business for a long time. You know,
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the fact of the matter that you've got Ilhan Omar, Tim Walz, Ellison somehow connected with all these
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people. It stinks to high heavens. Yeah. I mean, this guy was asked to leave 19 years ago. Nobody
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seemed to care. He probably has been voting in elections up in Canada. He was stealing from
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Canada. Now he's been stealing from America with that, by the way. Well, it's just, it's absolute
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crazy. Like this guy was almost vice president of the United States. And look, think about this.
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Kamala Harris blew through a hundred billion dollars, you know, very, very quickly. And then
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now she's $20 million in debt. Then you find out the largest fraud in American history was under her
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vice presidential candidate, Governor Tim Walz. Yeah, this stinks for sure. You know, the notion was
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back when Walz ran for vice president that he was extremely entangled in the CCP. You know, he went
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over there, done some training and then brought it back to Minnesota, implemented it. Now it's no
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longer CCP Tim Walz. It's Somalian Tim Walz. At this point, I don't even know who's worse to be caught
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up with. But this man, like you said, wanted to be vice president of the United States. And all we
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know about is his ties to other countries. To me, it's extremely terrifying. And the thing that
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annoys me the most even is these people for the large majority, they don't like America. They
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don't care about our American values that this country was built on the fabric that it was built
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on. They don't care about the social norms here in America. I'm sure you remember back in the
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campaign of another country where President Trump went on the debate stage and said, they're here,
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they're eating the cats and the dogs. And everyone's like, this man is crazy. But no,
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what's a social norm in some countries is most cases, not the social norm here in America. You
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have Somalian and people may be upset that I'm gonna say this, but they have a huge portion of the
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population there that believe in inbreeding. Obviously, here in America, that's not that's
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something we believe in. That's not an American value. I'd say in probably 99.9% of people's
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households here in America, but they come to America and they don't care to adopt to our
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values. They want to switch everybody from our values to their values right down to Ilhan Omar,
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who reportedly married her own brother. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. She doesn't ever
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sue anybody over that. And she doesn't, she doesn't ever try to discredit it. She just kind
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of stands there like, oh, maybe, maybe they won't notice, right? You know, going back to the Tim
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Walls thing. No, yes, you guys look so much alike. But going back to the Tim Walls thing,
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I do wonder now, during the presidential campaign, if he allowed them to talk about China. But behind
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the scenes, he was like, oh, my gosh, please don't find out about Somalia. I'll be absolutely
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wrecked on the internet, right? I mean, the largest fraud in American history has been under this guy.
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And now what does he do? He tries to blame it on Trump somehow. Give me a break.
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And it's not just Ilhan Omar, it's her friends, Jayapal, Congresswoman Jayapal, who says it wasn't
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Americans who built America. It was, what was it? It was undocumented people that built America. Let's
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take a listen to what she's got to say. The majority of Americans across the country,
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regardless of political party, know that immigrants from all over the world, Somalia,
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India, wherever they're from, Latin America, Africa, that immigrants have built this country
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and make this country what it is today. Does she need a history lesson? You know what? I think
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to make it the easiest way possible, we tell Ms. Congresswoman Jayapal to go look back at the 18th
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century at the Gilded Ages, right? And go tell me that John Rockefeller was from Somalia or India,
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or Cornelius Vanderbilt or JP Morgan or any of these people who, you know, really helped develop
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America after the Civil War. I mean, nobody tells these people, Stephen, how dumb they sound and how
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ridiculous they are. No, Indians and Somalians did not build America. I'm sorry to break the bad news to
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you. Yeah. I mean, they, they, they lose all credibility when they say stuff like this. Like
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she could have said, uh, black Americans help build a large portion of the South Chinese Chinese people
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helped build a lot of the railroads. The Irish helped build a lot of the railroads. Like you could
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go on, but just tell the truth, just tell the truth. And the reality is, I think most Americans are
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proud of the fact that we're a melting pot, that we're not just, you know, a cookie cutter group.
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I like the fact that we're a mix, but you have to come here legally. And when you get here,
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you got to become American and you can't steal our money. Right. I mean, she said that Somalians
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built America. No, they milked America. And, and now it's time, uh, to, to, you know, investigate these
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people. Yeah. Uh, the, the, the amount of crimes that Somalia has committed against America just on
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the pirating of ships alone, uh, it was so bad. They made a movie about it. Um, is enough for me
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to say no. I, and president Trump has had enough. He, I, he from the oval office the other day,
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Steven just looked, I mean, annoyed. He looked pissed. And it's not very often you, you see him
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in that, that stature that he was in. And he was just like, you know, I've had enough. I'm tired
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of it. I don't want them here anymore. Uh, you look at the amount of welfare that they're sucking
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up, uh, from the, from the, uh, Minnesota just specifically, you know, it's time we, we, we move
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back and move past, you know, all this nonsense, but you've got members like Jayapal. You've got
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members like Ilhan Omar who are now, I mean, arrogant to the point Ilhan Omar saying today, uh, that
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she's not going to allow president Trump to continue to do what he's doing. And those that
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collaborate with him, they will pay a price Trump and his cronies want to act like we
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have no power to respond. The truth is we are more powerful than we think we are. And
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I want to underscore the importance of using every single leverage that we have at our, at
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our arsenal, because we do have a lot of leverage. We need to make sure that those who are collaborating
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with the authoritarian regime pay a costly price. Who does she think she is talking like that?
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That's the president of the United States. Yeah. Yeah. She, uh, I mean, she's not wrong in the fact
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that, uh, you know, Obama and others, they, they built up this big community and then they vote one
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of them in and then they, they end up taking over the area, but then those people, they don't,
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they don't end up working. They just milk the American taxpayer, whether, whether you're black,
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white, Cuban or Asian, like, uh, you know, you're paying into this tax base and then you've got this
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group of foreigners that's stealing money. And it, and it like, it would be one thing if they were
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stealing money for their community, they're literally stealing it to send it back to terrorists,
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Yeah. It's disgusting to me that this is the country that we've got to deal with now. This
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is what we got to deal with in America. And it's not because of president Trump. This was all just
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thrown in his lap, shooting in his lap. He's the one who's got to deal with it. Now I want to take
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a quick break here, Steven. When we get back, I mean, there's so much to, to talk about president
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Trump's a peace prize. President Trump sending a stark warning to Europe that they better get their
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immigration problem under control. They're going to have a big problem. The Supreme court out with a
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massive ruling today. Just moments ago, we find out they're taking up another landmark case.
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What can it possibly be? We're going to talk about it all on the other side of this quick break.
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We're talking with Steven Gardner. He's host of the Steven Gardner show. We're coming right back,
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Thanks everybody for staying with us. Michael and Dell. I talked to him probably once or twice a week.
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He appreciates all your orders and we're getting a big announcement from him.
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I spoke to him earlier today. Uh, I think on the 11th of this month. So just a few days from today
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on if he's running for governor of Minnesota to get out tampon Tim. So that'll be a fun one to watch
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for Steven. Um, there's so much to talk about. Uh, you know what, let's turn to the DC pipe bomber
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because I'm so perplexed about this whole situation and I don't like conspiracy theories, but when
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something doesn't seem right to me, I get this, this, you know, inkling that something's wrong
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and it all started maybe three weeks, a month ago, or a story came out where, by the way,
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we've been waiting to catch this guy for what, what is it? Five years, almost five years. Now
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a story comes out last week that, uh, some, I think it was the blaze that was reporting it, that
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the pipe bomber was possibly a, uh, former Capitol police officer who had now left and gone to work
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in the CIA. Steven, lo and behold, three weeks later, we don't know who this person is for five
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years. We get a person now, Russ tight. So I believe you've had on your show, uh, before former senior NSA
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Intel analyst. And I spoke a few weeks ago and we agreed on the premise that there's cameras,
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especially in Washington DC. I mean, on every single corner, I've spoken to guys in the NSA and CIA who
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have told me that there are drones, Steven, that can pinpoint from 50,000 feet up and almost see the
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screen on your cell phone. So you mean to tell me that we had this person walking around the street,
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they got on a train or they got on a car, they did something where they showed their face.
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Number one, that to me is, is completely crazy because we got January 6th. There's the next day,
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right? We knew where they were, we knew where they were sleeping. We knew where they were eating
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five years. We don't find out who this person is. Now it's a month since this story comes out
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and we've got a guy who to me, I don't know. It doesn't fit the, the, the profile. I think of
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someone who would do something like that. I mean, the, the way they explain these pipe bombs where
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they were very sophisticated and put together, this guy was a bail bondsman.
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Well, I had read somewhere that his dad, I guess, had controlled a bomb company or something in the
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past. But from, from what I'm, what I'm reading it looks like, you know, they, they were able to
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track him through his shoes, through his body movement, through the cameras, through his cell
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phone. And then they were able to line all of that up with his credit cards. And they see him
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buying these bomb parts and they can identify like, okay, this credit card bought this bomb part.
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And this bomb is, this part is on this bomb, right? So it took them, but so, so the thing for
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me that is weird, isn't that this just came out after the blaze broke this big story. It's that
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within like four months, they were able to solve a crime that the Biden DOJ and FBI just couldn't
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solve in four years. So for me, that's the timing that's really off is Dan Bongino, Cash Patel,
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they come in. And even when this blaze story broke, they're like, it's not her. It's not.
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And I was like, why, why are they not like, you know, the gate matches or walking pattern matches.
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That's because behind the scenes, they were finally getting the final puzzle pieces together. So for me,
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Yeah. I don't know. I just, I feel like there, there's so many things that we've been told over
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the course of, you know, you're a little bit older than me, but, but not much over the course of
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our lifetimes that just simply weren't true. And, you know, you can go back and look at weapons of
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mass destruction that never existed. And that led to our invasion. You know, I don't want to go down
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rabbit holes, but we've been told things over the course of the last hundred years that some people
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say, don't check out, whether it's aliens, whether it's, did we ever go to the moon? I'm not saying I
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agree one way or another on it, but we've been fed things or the real story about nine 11.
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And there's so many inconsistencies or the two shots taken at president Trump's head. I mean,
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and, and, and Thomas Matthew cooks, his body being cremated within 24 hours of being recovered.
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You know, you go down the list of things that we've been told over the course of our,
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our lifetimes. And to me, it doesn't pass the smell test. The gateway pundits got a story out
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and I think it's attributable to the daily wire. I'm going to put it up here on the screen for us
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and our audience to see, cause it's, it's interesting to, to get some backstory here.
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This is the daily wire story. Let's see if we can get the pundit. Cause they do a little bit of a
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better breakdown. The daily wire reported on Thursday evening, that Cole's family sued the
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Trump DHS over illegal immigration and asked Biden's DOJ to address anti-black racism. Now we're being
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told this guy's MAGA and he believed the election was stolen. So that's why he did this
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weeks before 30 year old cold junior allegedly planted the pipe bombs at the headquarters of the
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DNC and the RNC on January 5th of 2021, a court ruled against the company and its lawsuit attacking
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the Trump administration on immigration issues. The daily wire has learned an FBI affidavit in that case
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notes that the suspect works for a bail bonds company and lives with his mother. Later on in 2021,
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the company held a press conference, bemoaning anti-black racism with a left-wing attorney,
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Cole senior and a Benjamin Crump who represented the family of Trayvon Martin attempted to stick
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the Biden department of justice on a local Tennessee prosecutor who had raised questions
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about the bail bonds company. So now also according to Fox news, this man has admitted to planting
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devices. It just, you know, you hear he's MAGA this, he's MAGA that anything to tie to Trump.
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You go to CNN, let's listen and see what they had to say about capital attack. Brian Cole, Jr.,
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a 30 year old white man from the DC sub. What can we just listen to that again? A 30 year old what
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capital attack? Brian Cole, Jr., a 30 year old white man from the.
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I've been a loss of words. I, you know, going from them suing the Trump administration for
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immigration. First of all, if you're, you're pro immigration, you're anti-Trump because Trump is
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for legal immigration. So, you know, that kicks that narrative out. Then you've got Jake Tapper
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going out last night that it's a white man, which it doesn't matter if he's white or black. It's so
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stupid to even say that he's a person, but Tapper had to get in that. He's a white man. I mean,
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what's going on? Yeah, well, obviously they were hoping that this would fit a narrative because
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the puzzle piece to keep their fragile breaking story is we need all the Trump people to be
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dangerous to democracy. We need all the Trump people to be crazy. We need all the people to
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be brainwashed by Donald Trump. So now you have somebody who doesn't fit the mold, who was anti-Trump,
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who was, you know, suing on behalf of racism, suing on behalf of illegal immigration. Like none of this
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screams MAGA. Like this dude probably does not have MAGA hats in his mom's basement. Right. The other
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thing though, is like, why are so many young people acting out with violence? Right. So you've got a
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young person that decides to kill Charlie Kirk. You've got a young person who decides to take a
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shot at president Trump's head. You've got Luigi Mangione who shoots the, the CEO of United healthcare
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in the back. Like what, what is with these, uh, young people that have, you know, everything going
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for them. They're almost all come from really good families. Obviously this guy living in Woodbridge,
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Virginia in his mom's basement. That's a really nice area. Why, why do you feel the need to,
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to go blow people up in order to humiliate Trump? That is a mystery to me.
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Yeah. The whole thing Lou Dobbs used to say to me, Steven, if it seems too good to be true,
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or it seems something's wrong, lift up the carpet. Cause there's probably a mouse under there. And
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I just, I don't know. It's so hard to imagine Dan Bongino. And he's like trying to,
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he did an interview with Fox news and he was like, he said something, well, you can't blame me for
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what I, cause he, they played an old clip for him, which he said, you know, there was going to be a
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massive coverup, right? It seemed like somebody was covering up for somebody. And they asked him
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on Fox news and Bongino was like, well, you can't take what I said in my opinion back as a podcaster
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seriously. And you're like, well, you know, we, you and I don't come out here every single day,
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just feeding bullshit to the audience. We report on the news to the best of our abilities,
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knowing and hoping that what we're being told and what we're reporting is the truth. And you know
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what, when we're wrong, we come out here and say, I was wrong. And that's part of being an adult,
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but you've got the deputy director of the FBI saying, well, two years ago, I believed it was a
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coverup. And now all of a sudden it's like, Nope, this is our man. We've got him. And it's the same
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thing he did with the Epstein documents. Something doesn't seem right with Bongino.
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So yeah. Uh, only, only time will tell, but, um, you know, if you want to stick with that coverup
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narrative, uh, they had, they had everything to find this guy. It just, to me, it seems like they
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didn't want to find him. Like even Bongino confirmed. Yes. There were thousands of interviews.
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We tracked all this stuff down, but then we just couldn't, couldn't, uh, get it across the finish
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line. But then they come in and they put a new set of eyes on it and they're like, bingo, got him.
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This guy, like all, all the dots connect to this guy. And then like within hours of being arrested,
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he's like, yeah, I did it. I'm sorry. Like, so this guy, you know, he was, he was walking around
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town for five years thinking he got away with it and he did under Christopher Ray and he did under
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Joe Biden, but not under Trump. Oh yeah. Christopher, right. There's no doubt it was one of the,
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if not the most corrupt, uh, um, it's hard for me to even say, right? Because we just had James
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Comey before him, but, but you know, one in two of the most corrupt FBI directors this country's ever
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seen, both who are running free, no issues because the members of Congress are more worried about
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their Trump derangement. Let's talk about that. Rand Paul, he wants to use this war powers act or come
00:23:38.160
up with some sort of war powers act to go against president Trump on these Venezuelan ships, which by the
00:23:42.780
way, last night, I don't know if you saw, they got their 22nd one and it was absolutely amazing
00:23:46.760
launching a drone strike at it. I spent probably two hours last night talking to Grok, uh, about,
00:23:52.820
cause I'm, I'm so fascinated at how high up they're launching these missiles, where are they coming
00:23:56.300
from? And, uh, their hellfire missiles from the MQ nine Reaper drones. And I think it's just
00:24:01.740
absolutely fascinating, but you got guys like Rand Paul who are more upset about president Trump
00:24:06.120
launching these missiles at drug lords who are shipping drugs in our country. Then the actual
00:24:12.280
people who are bringing the drugs in, it's like so backwards. Yeah. I saw, um, a Congressman, his name,
00:24:19.220
uh, slips my mind, but he, they asked him like, okay, you've just come from watching the video.
00:24:25.840
You've just come from the admiral testifying under oath. You've, you've been able to ask
00:24:31.340
a few questions, but nothing under oath. Um, what can you tell us? He's like, well,
00:24:37.500
they absolutely made the right decision to, to kill these people. Uh, yes, it is confirmed that
00:24:44.240
it was a drug boat. Yes, it is confirmed that they were narco terrorists, but I'm just so ashamed that
00:24:50.740
America would kill people that fell off of a boat. Like I, you know, forgive me for not knowing all of
00:24:58.220
the doctrine of war, but if someone's your enemy and you miss the first shot, don't you just take
00:25:03.660
another shot? I, I guess I don't understand why killing somebody that's trying to make money killing
00:25:09.800
Americans is a bad thing. And yet you see all these people crying on CNN about a drug, a drug dealer
00:25:16.960
being killed. To me, it makes no sense. Yeah. CNN is literally the enemy of the people. They,
00:25:22.320
they spew lies like I've never seen before. Um, it's absolutely berserk. And then they get away
00:25:29.340
with it. I want to take one more quick break here, Steven. On the other side of this break,
00:25:32.320
I want to get to, uh, president Trump's peace prize, which he got earlier this week, uh, president
00:25:37.840
Trump and his stark message that he's sending to Europe that they better get their act together
00:25:41.220
before it's too late. Uh, just moments ago, a, uh, judge down in Florida, uh, he, uh, wants all
00:25:48.040
of the Epstein files out, allowing the, uh, grand jury materials to, uh, to now be released.
00:25:54.100
So there's so much more to get to. I want to take a quick break. We're going to be a lot
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back in less than 60 seconds. Please stay with us folks. We're talking with Steven Gardner,
00:26:00.920
host of the Steven Gardner show. We'll be back in 60.
00:26:09.280
Thanks everybody for staying with us. My pillow.com slash John, get your Christmas
00:26:12.640
gifts early while you can, while they're on sale. Uh, Steven, let's talk about this.
00:26:16.920
Um, just moments ago, a federal judge in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, one of my favorite places
00:26:23.600
in Florida, uh, unsealing those grand jury records for all South Florida, uh, for the
00:26:29.420
Epstein files, president Trump was the one who went down there and asked him to go ahead
00:26:34.220
and do it. He and Pam Bondi, after they released, they voted on it in Congress. Trump says, let's
00:26:39.620
go one step further. Let's go down to Florida and unseal those grand jury documents. Doesn't
00:26:43.680
seem like a man who's a duck in his taco that he's maybe in the Epstein documents.
00:26:49.360
Yeah. You know, my Midas touch was putting out these videos with Donald Trump, his hair
00:26:54.640
is like disheveled. It was like, Donald Trump has mental mind meltdown over new Epstein photos.
00:27:03.060
And then it was like, Hey, did you know that, uh, Jeffrey Epstein had a dentist office at his
00:27:07.260
house? How's that? How's that linked to Donald Trump? I think what president Trump has done
00:27:13.240
is amazing. He's getting all the documents out there. His name is not in there. You're
00:27:18.560
not going to find him in this South Florida, uh, you know, unsealed documents. Now I think
00:27:25.140
he is doing what he promised. I don't know what the hangup was, but now he's doing it.
00:27:30.100
And now he's going above and beyond. And I think that this is going to come back to bite
00:27:34.520
the Democrats in the butt. Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. And it could be him taking
00:27:39.420
the high road. You remember back in 2016, the high road with Hillary Clinton, it could
00:27:43.220
have been him taking the high road. And I think these people opened up a can, Steven,
00:27:46.300
of their worst nightmare. That's about to come true to them because, uh, we're going
00:27:50.520
to find out a lot of Democrats in my opinion, and, uh, some, some big names, um, that are
00:27:56.260
in those documents that they're going to wish as Mark Mitchell always tells me you're, uh,
00:28:00.240
you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube once it's out. And I think that's, uh, what
00:28:04.320
we're going to see with this, uh, let's turn to president Trump and his message that he's
00:28:09.000
got for Europe. He's trying to save them before it's too late, but I think it might be too
00:28:13.600
late. President Trump's national security strategy is out in some of Europe sections
00:28:17.780
are shocking. Uh, a fellow on Twitter posted quote, a large European majority wants peace
00:28:23.200
yet. The desire is not to translate it into policy in large measure because these government
00:28:29.140
subversion of democratic processes, this is strategically important to the United States,
00:28:33.840
precisely because the European States cannot reform themselves if they are trapped in political
00:28:40.120
crises. Now this comes as Vladimir Putin, uh, said earlier this week, he's ready to go to war
00:28:46.160
with Europe because Europe is doing everything they can to stifle a peace plan between Ukraine and
00:28:52.000
Russia. Is this secretly what the European union really wants? Uh, we know war creates money. Is this
00:28:59.220
what they want? Well, I've had, uh, military and CIA, uh, people on my channel and they say,
00:29:07.100
you know, that, uh, Europe is on the verge of a major recession that, uh, they need, they need an
00:29:13.280
excuse to continue to print money. And so they've made Russia this boogeyman, but then at the same time
00:29:19.860
they keep provoking it. And we we've just learned in the last 48 hours that president Trump has this
00:29:28.080
big peace deal that Russia says we are very interested in. He's asked Ukrainian officials
00:29:33.860
to come to Florida to meet with Marco Rubio and get this thing done. And then what do we find out?
00:29:40.380
We find out that England and Germany and France goes behind president Trump's back and says,
00:29:46.240
we have to do everything to protect Zelensky. We have to do everything to keep money and weapons
00:29:52.460
flowing to Zelensky. None of it makes any sense. I think America is done. Like we've got nothing
00:29:59.260
against Ukraine, but we don't, we just don't want hundreds of billions of dollars to go towards
00:30:04.920
a country that we're now finding out top officials close to Zelensky stole a hundred million dollars.
00:30:11.460
Like, come on, that's insane. Well, let me ask you, what are we, and this is a serious question.
00:30:17.080
There's no satire to it. I wish it was. What is America, hypothetically speaking, supposed to do
00:30:22.720
if Russia, if Russia does go to war with some European countries, I know NATO and everything,
00:30:28.720
but what are we supposed to do if Russia goes to war with them because, uh, Europe stifled any peace
00:30:36.240
plan between Europe and Ukraine, between Russia and Ukraine? Are we supposed to send our troops
00:30:41.280
on the ground over to Europe to defend them when they're the ones who are in fact creating this war?
00:30:46.940
I don't think Americans will stand for it. President Trump, he's been so patient. I believe
00:30:53.060
he genuinely wants to bring this war to an end, but he's called them out. He's saying, wait a minute,
00:30:58.820
you guys keep saying that Russia is about to attack you, that they're going to roll into Kiev
00:31:04.540
any day now, that they want World War III with the entire continent of Europe. Yeah. You guys are
00:31:11.400
secretly buying their oil. You're literally funding the war that's attacking Ukraine. So what is it?
00:31:17.800
Is he about to attack or you want him to give you a better discount on, on gas and oil? It's just,
00:31:24.420
it's really hypocritical. I think hypocritical is put it nicely. And if you look at it from
00:31:28.800
the flip side too, he goes after Putin plenty. I mean, he's going after Putin telling him you
00:31:33.340
better get your shit together or we're tariffing the heck out of you, you know, which is kind of
00:31:39.540
why I think you're not hearing the Russia narrative anymore that Trump is this Putin stooge. He's
00:31:44.240
always been tough on Putin, regardless of what the left mainstream media and those are the real
00:31:50.660
Russia sycophants, by the way, whatever, regardless of what they're saying, he's been tough on them from
00:31:55.520
the beginning and he continues to be tough on them. And, uh, you know, you famously remember
00:32:00.480
him, uh, talking about, uh, I think it was, uh, Gaza or Iran and Israel. He says, they don't know
00:32:05.920
what the F they're doing. It's the same exact thing with these two countries, either make a peace deal
00:32:11.220
or figure out what the next steps are. America can't be here to babysit. We have so many of our
00:32:16.260
own issues, uh, right now in our own country that we have to deal with. We have drugs at the back
00:32:21.340
door. We've got a Trojan horse from Afghanistan, which we found out is worse than we originally
00:32:26.660
thought, uh, with these terrorists in our country, uh, drugs, the border, uh, the economy at any given
00:32:33.880
point can go one way or the other yet. We need to constantly be the world babysitter. Does it end
00:32:39.880
anytime soon? I don't know, but I think under Joe Biden, the American people woke up and realized
00:32:47.060
just how much of our hard earned money is going overseas, whether it's to foreign wars, whether
00:32:54.320
it's to foreign interests, whether it's to prop up allies, whether it's to NATO or to Ukraine or
00:33:01.900
whatever. And the American people were looking around going, Hey, didn't, didn't Joe Biden pass a
00:33:07.640
$2 trillion infrastructure package and my roads aren't better. My bridges aren't better. My trains
00:33:14.180
aren't better. My airports aren't better. Like where the heck did that money go? And then you find
00:33:20.540
out just how much of it went overseas. I think the American people, they, they want America first.
00:33:26.500
They want, they want the great America show talking about all of the money and good being done in
00:33:32.480
America. Yeah. You know, it's funny you say that because I spent a lot of time traveling and, uh,
00:33:38.000
I was over in Europe, I think last year for the Europe cup, a soccer match, uh, between Italy and
00:33:43.220
Albania that was over in, uh, I think it was Dusseldorf, Germany. And we were, I met some
00:33:48.080
random German guy and we're talking about president Trump. This guy's a German national
00:33:51.300
and he comes up to me and he says, you know, I love Donald Trump. I said, why? Yeah. You should
00:33:56.040
hate him. You're European. And you know, he's, he's making up for lost time from all the other
00:34:00.860
presidents that, you know, have given you guys everything. And he goes, no, I love him because
00:34:04.960
he loves your country more than anything. And he's willing to do anything for your country
00:34:09.660
first. And I was like, you know, that it's, it's my thing like that. That's just so brilliant
00:34:14.900
that people realize how important it is to care about your country. And this, like I said,
00:34:19.660
this kid's a German national who should hate America and hate Donald Trump, not hate America
00:34:23.820
per se, but Donald Trump because of, you know, the tensions that we've had. Speaking of peace,
00:34:29.040
Steven, uh, Joe Biden, uh, being honored on Friday, uh, he's receiving an LGBTQ award for running
00:34:37.460
the most inclusive administration in history. Now it comes at an interesting time because also on
00:34:42.820
Friday, uh, president Trump was issued the first in history FIFA peace award with the world cup,
00:34:49.860
but speaking of soccer, uh, coming to America, let's take a listen in, but just the stark contrast
00:34:54.500
between the two presidents and listen to the words from the president of FIFA. Sounds very genuine to me.
00:35:00.080
FIFA Peace Prize is presented annually on behalf of the billions of football loving people from
00:35:06.080
around the world to a distinguished individual who exemplifies an unwavering commitment to advancing
00:35:13.160
peace and unity throughout the world through their notable leadership and action. And therefore,
00:35:20.620
FIFA, the Fédération Internationale de Football Association, awards the 2025 FIFA Peace Prize,
00:35:28.480
football unites the world to Donald J. Trump, president of the United States of America in
00:35:35.720
recognition of his exceptional and extraordinary actions to promote peace and unity around the
00:35:41.800
world. Friday, December 5th, 2025. This is a certificate. It's yours.
00:35:48.780
Before giving you the floor, Mr. President, if I may say two words, um, like everyone here
00:36:03.560
in the room, we see images of war all over the world. And like everyone, we suffer for every
00:36:13.960
child that dies. We cry with every mother that loses someone she loves. And we want to see hope.
00:36:29.780
We want to see unity. We want to see a future. And I was lucky, Mr. President, to witness last,
00:36:39.920
a few years ago, the Abraham Accord signatures. A few months ago, in Sharm el-Sheikh, the peace in the
00:36:48.100
Middle East agreement regarding Gaza. I was in Malaysia and Kuala Lumpur for the peace between
00:36:54.600
Cambodia and Thailand. Yesterday, here in Washington, the Washington peace agreement between
00:37:01.560
Rwanda and Rwanda and the DRC. Well, this is what we want from a leader. A leader that cares about the
00:37:14.500
people. We want to live in a safe world, in a safe environment. We want to unite. That's what we do
00:37:22.640
here today. That's what we'll do at the World Cup, Mr. President. And you definitely deserve the first
00:37:29.780
FIFA Peace Prize for your action, for what you have obtained in your way. But you obtained it in an
00:37:38.160
incredible way. And you can always count, Mr. President, on my support, on the support of the
00:37:43.500
entire football community or soccer community to help you make peace and make the world prosper all
00:37:50.120
over the world. Thank you very much, Mr. President. The floor is all yours. Thank you.
00:37:55.500
So nice. And it takes a lot of guts for a man to do something like that. Because think about the
00:37:59.420
backlash he gets from that. Extremely, extremely admirable. Before I get your reaction to it,
00:38:03.780
I'm sorry, I don't mean to keep talking. He actually got Donald Trump to dance to. And
00:38:08.260
it's very simple. It's a very easy way to get Donald Trump to dance. All you got to do is this.
00:38:11.660
The secret is out. All you got to do is bring out the village people and it can't, you can't stop
00:38:28.100
the, the Trump from dancing. But no, I want to get your take on that. Because I'm sure the
00:38:33.680
mainstream media will tell us tomorrow that Donald Trump fell asleep during that, that little
00:38:38.480
procession. Yeah. Um, you know, one, one thing that I respect about president Trump, you say
00:38:46.380
whatever you want about him. He genuinely wants to see the world at peace. He, he wants, he wants
00:38:55.100
these wars to end. I mean, I remember when CNN town hall tried to trap him, who do you want to win
00:39:02.580
Ukraine or Russia? And his answer was brilliant. I want the killing to stop. So I think that, uh,
00:39:11.080
you know, he he's gotta, he's gotta take a tough stance on this stuff. And, uh, but at the end of
00:39:17.360
the day, he wants to be known as the president of peace. And, uh, he's, he's done a phenomenal job.
00:39:23.840
I, I, you know, we all wish that he could have got the Russia Ukraine war ended on day one. I don't
00:39:29.080
think he realized how, you know, incredibly difficult Europe, uh, and Russia were going to
00:39:35.340
be on this, but I do believe before his term is over, we will see this thing come to an end and
00:39:40.640
it will be a magnificent moment. But, uh, yeah, FIFA, they're, they're taking a big risk putting
00:39:47.200
any support behind president Trump, but like, like the, uh, the person just said there, like it just
00:39:53.260
warms his heart to know that there's not going to be children dying because president Trump is showing
00:39:58.360
leadership on the world stage. Yeah. We think about what he's given up and even the people who
00:40:03.800
hate him and can't stand him and want him dead. Imagine there's sick people out there like that.
00:40:08.220
I just like Joe Biden. I would never wish anything bad upon him. The cancer I thought was disgusting.
00:40:12.620
And I feel so bad for him because we're human beings. Right. Um, but there's people out there
00:40:17.720
who wish him dead. And there's probably people out there who pray on and they're six, sick people,
00:40:21.860
but he didn't need this. He didn't need to run. Well, he had to run for election because they were
00:40:26.540
trying to ruin his life and put him in jail for 700 years. So he really had no choice when it came
00:40:30.800
to that. But when he first ran, he didn't need any of this. He lived such a comfortable life.
00:40:36.300
Everybody loved him. They all kissed his rear end. They kissed the ring. And he was just a regular
00:40:41.060
guy. I mean, as regular as they got a fast food eating, you know, hardworking American. And he ran to
00:40:46.520
make this country a better place. And since then, Steven, the amount of hate for this man,
00:40:52.480
uh, the assassination attempts on his life, the, the crooked prosecutions and persecutions against
00:40:59.080
him. I don't, I don't know how I'd want to wake up every single morning and get out of bed,
00:41:05.120
knowing that I constantly had a target on my back and the resiliency in this man. And I'm not kissing
00:41:10.140
his rear end, but you find me another person who's been able to do what he's done and the adversity
00:41:15.880
he's overcome. You find me another person who can do that. And I tell you, you're lying
00:41:20.400
because it's unfathomable and impossible to think that such a person exists. Tell me if
00:41:26.760
I'm wrong. I mean, think about this. Uh, he's married to beautiful Melania.
00:41:32.080
Gorgeous. He's, he's rich. He could literally go to every golf resort around the world. All of
00:41:39.220
the most beautiful beaches. What does he do? He rolls up his sleeves and he walks into the swamp
00:41:45.040
of Washington DC and says, I'm going to fight every single day to make this country safe,
00:41:53.220
to make this country healthy, to make this country great. He doesn't, he didn't need any of this.
00:41:59.160
And yet he shows up every day. They mock him. Oh, taco Trump, cankles, Trump, bad hair, Trump,
00:42:06.280
ugly Trump, orange face, Trump. Like he just, he just puts up with it because he has a vision
00:42:13.340
for what he wants to make America into, which is a rich nation, a healthy nation, a safe nation,
00:42:20.520
a nation with borders. So I just, I love it. I feel like it's an honor of a lifetime to be able
00:42:25.820
to cover his presidency. I want to play this video because, you know, now that we're talking about
00:42:30.040
his, uh, you know, his past life and the normal life he was living, there's this video. I just found
00:42:34.960
that it was, he actually posted it on his Facebook, like maybe 15 years ago. And this is how normal
00:42:40.460
his life was. He's driving in the city. It looks like Baron Trump is in the front seat. Melania's
00:42:45.120
in the backseat, taking a video and they're literally listening to Taylor Swift blank space,
00:42:50.120
just that living this normal life that is, you know, been taken from him because of,
00:42:56.020
you know, his selfish selflessness to run for president and to make America great again.
00:43:00.800
You know, he's just, he doesn't get, people don't see that in him much that he, you know,
00:43:25.840
he is a human being because of, you know, how hardworking is, but that's life he gave up, you
00:43:30.820
know? Yeah. You know, when, uh, Matthew Thomas Crooks nearly blew his brains out on live TV,
00:43:38.460
Melania wrote a letter, uh, saying, you know, this is a man that loves his family. This is a man
00:43:45.940
that loves his country. This is a man that loves music. He's obsessed with music. I mean, the Rose
00:43:51.720
garden people go there and he's blasting music and they say, Oh, he's so tacky. He's such a stupid
00:43:58.400
tacky person, but he just loves music. That's just who he is. Let him be who he is. Right. But yeah,
00:44:03.440
he didn't, he didn't have to do any of this. He didn't have to get the dirt of DC on him. I mean,
00:44:09.180
I was just on, uh, with Brigitte, uh, Gabrielle, and she told me off air that, uh, uh, Janine Pirro
00:44:16.740
said that Washington DC is dirtier than she could have ever imagined the crime and corruption
00:44:23.760
within Congress blew her mind. And she's a judge. She's a judge and had her mind blown.
00:44:30.160
Yeah. And she's seen a lot. Uh, she's been in this business for a very long time of, uh,
00:44:35.520
of being a judge. The music thing is funny. I was down in Florida two weeks ago playing golf at his
00:44:40.640
course. And I see his golf cart parked there and he's got these two massive speakers mounted on the
00:44:45.540
back of his golf cart with an iPad sitting in it. It's the funniest thing in the world that how just
00:44:50.260
normal of a person he is like, is, you know, one of the guys less, you know, the, the beer drinking,
00:44:55.380
uh, before we wrap up, I want to get to something that just came across the news wires,
00:45:00.200
the Supreme court to, by the way, today, very big case, uh, six, three decision allowing Texas to move
00:45:09.000
forward with their newly redrawn congressional maps. So that's an interesting one. It's, uh, it's moving
00:45:15.060
forward according to the Supreme court, which keeps me optimistic on the tariffs, but the Supreme
00:45:19.500
court court also today, uh, they're going to take up if president Trump has a constitutional authority
00:45:24.200
to end birthright citizenship for illegal aliens. Uh, this is a big one.
00:45:29.220
Yeah, it's, it's huge. So, uh, I also read that Florida is going to make changes that might
00:45:35.720
open three to five more red seats. They, you know, they just approved the five seats over in Texas,
00:45:41.820
but this is massive. Like people should not be able to, Steven, what's that? Indiana just voted
00:45:48.000
on. It's a seven, two right now. It's going to move to a nine zero. Ooh. Yeah. I mean, this is
00:45:53.420
good. They cheated us in the census. They rigged the census in order to get more seats in Congress,
00:45:58.380
but just going back to the Supreme court, um, you know, people should not be able to come to America
00:46:04.620
for five seconds and get all the blessings of America. Um, I, I just, I don't, I don't believe
00:46:11.180
in that. Um, so I, I think that is a big deal. I think that they would be foolish to allow the chief
00:46:18.100
negotiator of the country to not have power to negotiate tariffs. I mean, he's used them to end
00:46:24.320
wars. He's used them to onshore jobs. He's used them to get $18 trillion in investment commitment.
00:46:32.380
All of that's going to flood in over the next 38 months, but he's got to remain in office.
00:46:38.280
They've got to keep the house and the Senate. Uh, there's, there's still a lot of work to be done,
00:46:43.120
but this is a great day. Well, yeah, there's more than enough work to get done in Washington, DC.
00:46:49.000
Steven Gardner. I appreciate that. We went a little overtime today. Just there's so much to talk about
00:46:53.200
and, uh, nobody enjoy more wrapping up my week with them talking with you. So it's always a delight to
00:46:57.920
talk to you. Steven Gardner folks, host of the Steven Gardner show. You catch him on YouTube,
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00:47:09.860
episodes a day. Really, really terrific stuff. Steven enjoy the rest of your weekend, my friend.
00:47:15.440
Thank you. Steven Gardner folks, please be sure to go follow him on all social media. Steven Gardner
00:47:20.640
one on YouTube. That's all for us tonight, folks. That's all for us this week. We hope to see you
00:47:24.600
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00:47:29.680
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00:47:34.820
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